1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,500 Welcome to Off the Console, the hottest 2 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:03,541 new podcast that's all about gaming, tech 3 00:00:03,541 --> 00:00:04,958 news and anything nerdy. 4 00:00:05,791 --> 00:00:07,500 And today we're going to be talking about 5 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:09,500 CES and more CES 6 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:10,625 who's going to be at CES. 7 00:00:11,583 --> 00:00:12,208 And much more. 8 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:13,875 My name is High Tech Low Life and I'm 9 00:00:13,875 --> 00:00:15,500 with my co-hosts 10 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:17,541 James from Games Revealed, 11 00:00:17,541 --> 00:00:18,291 as well as Gardener 12 00:00:18,291 --> 00:00:20,500 Bryant from Gardener Bryant. 13 00:00:23,041 --> 00:00:25,416 And this is the first 14 00:00:25,416 --> 00:00:26,916 new episode of the year. 15 00:00:27,208 --> 00:00:28,541 Yeah, it's 2025 now. 16 00:00:29,541 --> 00:00:32,958 And we've reached around 3,500 downloads 17 00:00:32,958 --> 00:00:35,041 through our various podcasting services. 18 00:00:35,708 --> 00:00:37,791 You know, we're on Spotify, Apple Music, 19 00:00:39,125 --> 00:00:40,583 tech work, even on YouTube as well. 20 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:43,625 And if you like us, be sure to like and 21 00:00:43,625 --> 00:00:46,208 subscribe us on YouTube as well as our 22 00:00:46,208 --> 00:00:47,000 other platforms, 23 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,250 whatever you listen to us on. 24 00:00:49,250 --> 00:00:50,500 And we'll start from that though. 25 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:51,375 How are you guys doing today? 26 00:00:51,666 --> 00:00:52,166 Thanks for being here 27 00:00:52,166 --> 00:00:52,833 with me, by the way. 28 00:00:53,875 --> 00:00:54,416 Yeah, thanks. 29 00:00:54,416 --> 00:00:55,000 Good to be here. 30 00:00:55,250 --> 00:00:56,250 I'm glad to be back. 31 00:00:56,250 --> 00:00:57,416 I was sick last week. 32 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:00,666 Yeah, I remember it was unfortunate. 33 00:01:01,625 --> 00:01:01,833 Yeah. 34 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:04,500 I'm doing decent. 35 00:01:05,125 --> 00:01:06,041 I'm knocking on wood. 36 00:01:06,041 --> 00:01:06,833 I haven't been sick much 37 00:01:06,833 --> 00:01:10,708 this year or this winter. 38 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,750 And it's refreshing. 39 00:01:15,041 --> 00:01:16,666 I totally feel Gardener on that. 40 00:01:17,291 --> 00:01:18,291 Yeah, I'm still kind 41 00:01:18,291 --> 00:01:19,250 of recovering myself. 42 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:23,375 I was a, I like got super, like I was 43 00:01:23,375 --> 00:01:24,875 kind of feeling kind of under the weather 44 00:01:25,083 --> 00:01:27,125 when we last recorded and then like right 45 00:01:27,125 --> 00:01:28,500 after we recorded, I 46 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:30,041 got like really sick. 47 00:01:30,416 --> 00:01:32,000 So get the recording. 48 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,625 We did. 49 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:34,708 So what have you guys 50 00:01:34,708 --> 00:01:35,250 been playing though? 51 00:01:35,666 --> 00:01:36,500 James, what are you doing playing? 52 00:01:37,583 --> 00:01:39,208 I've been playing the copium game. 53 00:01:39,750 --> 00:01:42,500 I've been playing it so hard since, uh, 54 00:01:42,666 --> 00:01:43,708 and we'll, we're going to talk about this 55 00:01:43,708 --> 00:01:46,208 topic, but the hint of some maybe 56 00:01:46,208 --> 00:01:47,625 half-life news coming this year. 57 00:01:47,916 --> 00:01:49,083 I mean, a lot of people 58 00:01:49,083 --> 00:01:49,875 are saying half-life three. 59 00:01:50,166 --> 00:01:52,125 I'm still skeptical on that, but I am 60 00:01:52,125 --> 00:01:53,291 playing that copium. 61 00:01:53,291 --> 00:01:54,041 Honestly, that's what I 62 00:01:54,041 --> 00:01:54,625 spent this week doing. 63 00:01:54,666 --> 00:01:56,166 I was doing like deep dives into some of 64 00:01:56,166 --> 00:01:58,958 the stuff and doing a video beyond that. 65 00:01:59,541 --> 00:02:01,458 Uh, Indiana Jones, that's it. 66 00:02:01,458 --> 00:02:01,750 That's it. 67 00:02:02,208 --> 00:02:02,916 Those are the, those are 68 00:02:02,916 --> 00:02:03,708 the games I've been playing. 69 00:02:04,958 --> 00:02:06,250 How about you, Gardener? 70 00:02:07,083 --> 00:02:07,541 Oh man. 71 00:02:07,541 --> 00:02:09,416 I have been playing dome keeper. 72 00:02:09,416 --> 00:02:10,541 Have you guys heard about this? 73 00:02:11,791 --> 00:02:15,083 I think I have, but I haven't played it. 74 00:02:15,666 --> 00:02:16,375 I haven't played it either. 75 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:18,458 Dome keeper is like, 76 00:02:18,458 --> 00:02:20,375 uh, if you took like Mr. 77 00:02:20,583 --> 00:02:23,291 Driller and dig dug and then put it into 78 00:02:23,291 --> 00:02:27,166 like a, uh, like a sci-fi rogue like, um, 79 00:02:27,166 --> 00:02:29,250 where it's also sort of, uh, you have to 80 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:30,541 like defend your dome 81 00:02:30,541 --> 00:02:33,375 from, uh, from these 82 00:02:33,375 --> 00:02:35,416 like monsters, like these waves of 83 00:02:35,416 --> 00:02:37,000 monsters that come in and 84 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,250 you have to like dig down 85 00:02:38,333 --> 00:02:41,000 underneath your dome, find resources, and 86 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,541 then use those resources to upgrade your 87 00:02:43,541 --> 00:02:46,291 weapons, your jet pack, all your, all the 88 00:02:46,291 --> 00:02:48,291 different things, dude, it is one of the 89 00:02:48,291 --> 00:02:50,208 most addictive games I have ever played. 90 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:52,250 I have literally, I've been sick, so 91 00:02:52,250 --> 00:02:54,208 that's been helpful to like, just invest 92 00:02:54,333 --> 00:02:57,625 time into a game, but like, I could not 93 00:02:57,625 --> 00:02:58,791 have found this game at a better time 94 00:02:58,791 --> 00:03:01,750 because I've literally put like dozens of 95 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:03,291 hours into it in the last week. 96 00:03:03,958 --> 00:03:06,791 Um, it is so much fun. 97 00:03:07,125 --> 00:03:08,500 And it's, it sounds fun. 98 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:09,125 I'll have to check it out. 99 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:09,708 Yeah. 100 00:03:09,708 --> 00:03:10,125 Same here. 101 00:03:10,541 --> 00:03:12,791 After me, I've been 102 00:03:12,791 --> 00:03:14,000 grinding the shadow blotch. 103 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,541 I've been trying to a hundred percent. 104 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:16,791 Nice. 105 00:03:17,291 --> 00:03:19,208 And can you a hundred percent that? 106 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:20,125 You can. 107 00:03:20,625 --> 00:03:22,041 I thought that game, you beat it by 108 00:03:22,041 --> 00:03:23,000 crashing it like Tetris. 109 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:26,208 Well, yeah, that's technically the way 110 00:03:26,208 --> 00:03:27,583 you like quote unquote beat. 111 00:03:27,833 --> 00:03:29,000 I mean, you beat the game by reaching 112 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,791 anti eight and beating that. 113 00:03:31,375 --> 00:03:33,750 And then you also like really beat the 114 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:36,625 game when you reach anti 39 and like, 115 00:03:36,625 --> 00:03:38,833 uh, you start getting a, not a number of 116 00:03:38,833 --> 00:03:41,416 issues, but not a number. 117 00:03:41,708 --> 00:03:42,291 That's awesome. 118 00:03:42,291 --> 00:03:42,500 Yeah. 119 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:44,333 So basically, is that like a real thing 120 00:03:44,333 --> 00:03:46,250 or is that like the, the program 121 00:03:46,666 --> 00:03:48,125 actually hitting the not a number? 122 00:03:48,416 --> 00:03:48,750 Yeah. 123 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:50,416 It's the like, so the score requirement 124 00:03:50,416 --> 00:03:54,000 hits not a number, nan, if you will. 125 00:03:54,250 --> 00:03:57,125 And then, uh, and then, uh, what happens 126 00:03:57,125 --> 00:03:59,458 afterwards is that, uh, you can reach 127 00:03:59,833 --> 00:04:02,125 not, you can reach NAN infinite if you 128 00:04:02,125 --> 00:04:05,250 have the right build, but it's not, 129 00:04:05,250 --> 00:04:06,333 also, it's also not a number. 130 00:04:06,625 --> 00:04:07,916 So it just doesn't work. 131 00:04:08,875 --> 00:04:10,250 Is it, what are they, 132 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:12,250 what is Bellatra written in? 133 00:04:12,416 --> 00:04:12,625 Lua. 134 00:04:13,208 --> 00:04:13,416 Lua. 135 00:04:14,208 --> 00:04:17,291 Oh, it's written in Lua. 136 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:18,666 Huh. 137 00:04:19,541 --> 00:04:19,750 Interesting. 138 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:20,583 Yeah. 139 00:04:20,583 --> 00:04:21,458 There's like not a number, 140 00:04:21,458 --> 00:04:23,291 uh, error and stuff like that. 141 00:04:23,291 --> 00:04:25,500 Or parsing is different 142 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:26,291 in different languages. 143 00:04:26,583 --> 00:04:27,208 So you don't need to 144 00:04:27,208 --> 00:04:28,500 dive into that boring stuff. 145 00:04:28,583 --> 00:04:28,958 Yeah. 146 00:04:29,166 --> 00:04:29,375 Yeah. 147 00:04:29,541 --> 00:04:31,583 So the way you, the way you're supposed 148 00:04:31,583 --> 00:04:34,250 to 100% as per the achievements is you're 149 00:04:34,250 --> 00:04:35,791 supposed to be the gold stake, the 150 00:04:35,791 --> 00:04:36,416 highest difficulty 151 00:04:36,416 --> 00:04:37,750 with every single deck. 152 00:04:38,958 --> 00:04:41,083 And then get a gold sticker with every 153 00:04:41,083 --> 00:04:43,250 single, uh, joker in the game. 154 00:04:45,333 --> 00:04:47,791 So you need to take like every single 155 00:04:47,791 --> 00:04:50,166 joker in the game at some point and 156 00:04:50,166 --> 00:04:54,875 be gold stick with it, which is really 157 00:04:54,875 --> 00:04:56,250 difficult because some jokers are really 158 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:58,916 bad, like the basic jokers, like it gives 159 00:04:58,916 --> 00:04:59,875 you plus four multiplier. 160 00:05:00,583 --> 00:05:00,750 Yeah. 161 00:05:01,041 --> 00:05:01,875 It was really bad. 162 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,666 That's interesting. 163 00:05:03,875 --> 00:05:04,000 Yeah. 164 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,875 It's the joker system on that. 165 00:05:05,875 --> 00:05:06,625 It's really cool. 166 00:05:06,625 --> 00:05:09,166 I like it, but I still don't think it's 167 00:05:09,166 --> 00:05:10,250 as hard as the game I'm playing. 168 00:05:10,916 --> 00:05:11,500 I don't think anything is as hard as the game I'm playing. 169 00:05:11,666 --> 00:05:15,083 Which is hoping for half-life three. 170 00:05:15,458 --> 00:05:16,500 Nothing ever will. 171 00:05:19,541 --> 00:05:22,250 How do you, how do you beat Copium? 172 00:05:23,625 --> 00:05:27,625 Uh, you dive down, make a video on it 173 00:05:27,625 --> 00:05:30,541 and, uh, pretend to not be crazy. 174 00:05:30,833 --> 00:05:31,875 That's, that's how it is. 175 00:05:31,875 --> 00:05:32,500 That's how you beat it. 176 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,000 It's just, as long as you're not in the, 177 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,708 like the, the crazy house or you end up 178 00:05:35,708 --> 00:05:37,750 going like insane, I 179 00:05:37,750 --> 00:05:38,291 think you're winning. 180 00:05:38,875 --> 00:05:39,041 Hmm. 181 00:05:39,333 --> 00:05:40,458 Well, I think the best way to beat Copium is to be like, you know, 182 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:41,666 beat Copium is to 183 00:05:41,666 --> 00:05:42,625 look forward to tomorrow. 184 00:05:43,208 --> 00:05:45,416 The technology of tomorrow today. 185 00:05:46,041 --> 00:05:46,666 Seeing yes. 186 00:05:46,666 --> 00:05:48,666 2025 is around the corner. 187 00:05:49,541 --> 00:05:51,958 So James, I think we've talked about this 188 00:05:51,958 --> 00:05:53,833 a couple of times, but have you decided 189 00:05:53,833 --> 00:05:54,458 if you're going to see 190 00:05:54,458 --> 00:05:55,333 yes or not this year? 191 00:05:56,916 --> 00:05:59,125 So I was, I was eyeing over my retirement 192 00:05:59,125 --> 00:06:01,541 fund thinking maybe I should, uh, 193 00:06:01,541 --> 00:06:02,500 cash some of this to 194 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:04,666 go and I'll be honest. 195 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,166 I was, I was, I was close at times, not 196 00:06:07,166 --> 00:06:08,125 the cash little thing, of course, 197 00:06:08,125 --> 00:06:09,041 but cash a little bit. 198 00:06:10,666 --> 00:06:12,291 Because, you know, Christmas just 199 00:06:12,291 --> 00:06:13,541 happened, paid for a 200 00:06:13,541 --> 00:06:14,916 bunch of stuff, got a 201 00:06:14,916 --> 00:06:16,916 bunch of new things, didn't have the 202 00:06:16,916 --> 00:06:18,208 budget at this point 203 00:06:18,208 --> 00:06:21,041 to go, but I, so close. 204 00:06:21,833 --> 00:06:23,625 If I was really thinking it through, 205 00:06:23,916 --> 00:06:26,000 maybe like, if I did this way earlier, I 206 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,291 could have gone like, cause it would have 207 00:06:28,291 --> 00:06:29,583 been better prices for hotel and 208 00:06:29,583 --> 00:06:30,500 everything, everything's like 209 00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:34,250 500 plus a night in that area. 210 00:06:34,916 --> 00:06:35,083 Yeah. 211 00:06:35,166 --> 00:06:36,041 So it's yeah. 212 00:06:36,083 --> 00:06:38,250 So for those who don't know, um, see, 213 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:40,750 yes, is a trade show where a lot of tech 214 00:06:40,750 --> 00:06:42,791 companies come together, they show off 215 00:06:42,791 --> 00:06:44,541 their latest gadgets and other 216 00:06:44,541 --> 00:06:45,500 technologies and whatnot. 217 00:06:46,083 --> 00:06:48,000 And, you know, sometimes companies come 218 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,750 in with extremely prototyped prototypes. 219 00:06:51,833 --> 00:06:54,666 Hopefully you get some investors and it's 220 00:06:54,666 --> 00:06:55,500 not explicitly gaming. 221 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:57,208 Like there's a lot of companies that do 222 00:06:57,208 --> 00:06:59,083 things on gaming, like robots and shit. 223 00:06:59,875 --> 00:07:00,666 Robots are pretty cool. 224 00:07:02,250 --> 00:07:02,583 Oh yeah. 225 00:07:02,875 --> 00:07:04,791 I think a good way to think of it is 226 00:07:04,791 --> 00:07:07,458 like, um, the game awards and some of the 227 00:07:07,458 --> 00:07:10,375 other like E3 is for what games are, that 228 00:07:10,375 --> 00:07:11,708 is what this is like, this is for 229 00:07:11,708 --> 00:07:14,666 hardware, this is for technology, but it 230 00:07:14,666 --> 00:07:16,375 can incorporate, you just wouldn't see 231 00:07:16,375 --> 00:07:18,416 like a game announced at this unless 232 00:07:18,416 --> 00:07:20,333 valve really wants to be, unless valve 233 00:07:20,333 --> 00:07:21,958 really wants to be controversial, which I 234 00:07:21,958 --> 00:07:23,375 am all for them being controversial. 235 00:07:23,958 --> 00:07:27,041 But, uh, usually there's a lot of stuff 236 00:07:27,041 --> 00:07:30,250 that's like, for example, Alienware, 237 00:07:30,291 --> 00:07:33,416 one of the first, in my opinion, the 238 00:07:33,416 --> 00:07:36,458 first like actual realized decent 239 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:39,250 designed, uh, handheld gaming device that 240 00:07:39,250 --> 00:07:41,166 they never released was the, uh, 241 00:07:41,166 --> 00:07:43,416 Alienware UFO was unveiled 242 00:07:43,416 --> 00:07:47,458 at, um, at a CES like years ago. 243 00:07:47,958 --> 00:07:49,583 And so oftentimes that's another thing 244 00:07:49,583 --> 00:07:50,750 that's a little disappointing about E3 245 00:07:50,750 --> 00:07:52,125 is that you'll see a lot of cool things 246 00:07:52,125 --> 00:07:53,375 that never come to light. 247 00:07:53,750 --> 00:07:55,916 Cause it's also a, it's for journalists 248 00:07:55,916 --> 00:07:58,083 to come and like test the waters, right? 249 00:07:58,166 --> 00:08:00,041 Or not for journalists, but for the 250 00:08:00,041 --> 00:08:01,166 companies to come and test the 251 00:08:01,166 --> 00:08:02,541 waters with journals that is so. 252 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:04,041 Yeah. 253 00:08:04,625 --> 00:08:07,000 So who do we know is coming to CES? 254 00:08:07,333 --> 00:08:09,250 We know of course Lenovo is coming to CES 255 00:08:09,250 --> 00:08:12,375 supposedly with valve, but word 256 00:08:12,375 --> 00:08:13,916 also has it this kind of bleeding to the 257 00:08:13,916 --> 00:08:16,375 next topic valve themselves may be 258 00:08:16,375 --> 00:08:18,333 preparing something big there too. 259 00:08:19,333 --> 00:08:21,125 As per sadly, it's Bradley is a tweet. 260 00:08:21,791 --> 00:08:22,750 So let's just make 261 00:08:22,750 --> 00:08:24,541 this one mega CES topic. 262 00:08:25,125 --> 00:08:25,666 Let's do it. 263 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,083 Yeah. 264 00:08:26,208 --> 00:08:28,458 So from what I can see here, it looks 265 00:08:28,458 --> 00:08:30,375 like they're setting up different 266 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:33,250 startup variants, like different startup 267 00:08:33,250 --> 00:08:34,625 movie variants, you know, like this, 268 00:08:34,625 --> 00:08:35,958 the steam deck boot screen. 269 00:08:36,666 --> 00:08:36,875 Yeah. 270 00:08:37,500 --> 00:08:38,833 I don't really know 271 00:08:38,833 --> 00:08:41,708 what this is all about. 272 00:08:42,833 --> 00:08:45,250 To me, I'm looking at the, the sadly it's 273 00:08:45,250 --> 00:08:47,958 Bradley, uh, diff here. 274 00:08:48,291 --> 00:08:50,625 And it looks like they're renaming the, 275 00:08:50,625 --> 00:08:53,833 uh, the startup movies or the, the 276 00:08:53,875 --> 00:08:55,208 emails for the startup movies. 277 00:08:55,791 --> 00:08:57,541 And, uh, essentially it looks like the 278 00:08:57,541 --> 00:09:00,416 default is going to be for like 279 00:09:00,625 --> 00:09:03,291 OEM, uh, steam OS installs. 280 00:09:03,833 --> 00:09:06,375 And then the deck blue and deck orange 281 00:09:06,375 --> 00:09:09,083 are going to be, um, for 282 00:09:09,083 --> 00:09:11,583 the LCD and LED models. 283 00:09:12,375 --> 00:09:12,666 Um, 284 00:09:14,041 --> 00:09:15,458 uh, I'm just curious 285 00:09:15,458 --> 00:09:17,208 why this matters so much. 286 00:09:17,208 --> 00:09:19,083 I really wish that they would for 287 00:09:19,083 --> 00:09:21,375 developers like me, I'd love some like 288 00:09:21,875 --> 00:09:24,000 behind the scenes explanations on some of 289 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,500 these, uh, diffs because like there's 290 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:29,416 an invalid state, what does that mean? 291 00:09:29,416 --> 00:09:30,041 Why, why not just play 292 00:09:30,041 --> 00:09:31,458 these are startup movies? 293 00:09:31,458 --> 00:09:32,416 Like, why not just play it? 294 00:09:32,416 --> 00:09:33,375 It might not look perfect. 295 00:09:33,541 --> 00:09:36,666 So I'm assuming like screen ratios and 296 00:09:36,666 --> 00:09:37,250 stuff like that kind 297 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:37,958 of come up with a play. 298 00:09:37,958 --> 00:09:38,250 Right. 299 00:09:38,833 --> 00:09:40,916 I'm going to guess that the invalid is 300 00:09:40,916 --> 00:09:44,875 going to be like the, the, um, this is 301 00:09:44,875 --> 00:09:46,250 just my guess, I have no idea, but I 302 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:48,750 think the invalid is the startup movie 303 00:09:48,833 --> 00:09:52,208 when you launch big picture and then, um, 304 00:09:52,541 --> 00:09:54,625 generic is going to be like the generic 305 00:09:54,625 --> 00:09:56,833 steam OS boot up and then they're, 306 00:09:56,833 --> 00:09:58,666 they're branding their own hardware with, 307 00:09:58,916 --> 00:10:00,500 with the deck blue and 308 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:02,666 deck orange startup movies. 309 00:10:02,791 --> 00:10:03,000 Yeah. 310 00:10:03,250 --> 00:10:04,291 That sounds like it makes sense. 311 00:10:04,875 --> 00:10:06,500 I mean, it's an enum, which means these 312 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:08,458 are just like types that they use 313 00:10:08,458 --> 00:10:10,666 throughout the code, just as a, to give a 314 00:10:10,666 --> 00:10:11,916 little bit of context for this. 315 00:10:11,916 --> 00:10:13,000 So that's what enums are. 316 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:15,583 They're just a way to control naming and, 317 00:10:15,583 --> 00:10:19,250 uh, and, and usually checks throughout 318 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:22,458 the code so that this will be potentially 319 00:10:22,458 --> 00:10:24,291 exactly what you guys were talking about. 320 00:10:24,666 --> 00:10:26,625 Um, checking to see if it's big picture 321 00:10:26,625 --> 00:10:29,291 mode or maybe, maybe they'll be doing 322 00:10:29,291 --> 00:10:31,458 something special for some of the, uh, 323 00:10:31,458 --> 00:10:32,083 valve specific 324 00:10:32,083 --> 00:10:33,916 devices with startup movies 325 00:10:33,916 --> 00:10:34,291 and stuff. 326 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:37,000 So, so I will say the startup movie 327 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,500 aspect ratios, they're all 16 by 10 as 328 00:10:39,541 --> 00:10:42,500 per usual, but of course we'll be seeing 329 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:44,250 some 16, we'll probably be seeing some 330 00:10:44,250 --> 00:10:46,458 16 by nine devices running steam OS at 331 00:10:46,458 --> 00:10:47,625 some point, so they had to figure out 332 00:10:47,625 --> 00:10:48,500 what to do with that as well. 333 00:10:49,541 --> 00:10:49,833 Yeah. 334 00:10:50,666 --> 00:10:53,583 I think that's pretty simple, um, to 335 00:10:53,583 --> 00:10:55,416 support with the way that they do it. 336 00:10:55,583 --> 00:10:56,708 But yeah, I think it's 337 00:10:56,708 --> 00:10:59,625 still good for them to check it. 338 00:11:00,166 --> 00:11:00,458 Yeah. 339 00:11:01,083 --> 00:11:01,458 Yeah. 340 00:11:01,458 --> 00:11:03,541 I think the thing that they're doing with 341 00:11:03,541 --> 00:11:05,416 the different aspect ratios, and I 342 00:11:05,416 --> 00:11:07,000 could be wrong about this, but I believe 343 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,666 they're just doing like an object fit 344 00:11:09,333 --> 00:11:12,000 for the video player, um, which just 345 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,208 crops the top and the bottom. 346 00:11:14,333 --> 00:11:17,833 Um, but yeah, I mean, right now it's a, 347 00:11:17,833 --> 00:11:20,083 it's a, it's a black video on a black 348 00:11:20,125 --> 00:11:22,208 background for, for these generic 349 00:11:22,208 --> 00:11:23,416 bootloader videos anyway. 350 00:11:23,791 --> 00:11:25,250 So yeah. 351 00:11:26,458 --> 00:11:26,666 Fun. 352 00:11:26,958 --> 00:11:28,541 So did you guys ever, okay. 353 00:11:28,541 --> 00:11:30,500 I have to ask because this is, this was a 354 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,666 fun part of the beginning of the steam 355 00:11:32,666 --> 00:11:35,000 deck era, did you guys ever do any of the 356 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,875 custom boot boot, uh, boot videos? 357 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:38,583 I've done. 358 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:40,875 I've done some too, but I've been a 359 00:11:40,875 --> 00:11:42,250 little lazy these days. 360 00:11:43,208 --> 00:11:43,833 They're, they're awesome. 361 00:11:44,166 --> 00:11:46,375 I, I have them a part of 362 00:11:46,375 --> 00:11:47,333 one of the software pieces. 363 00:11:47,541 --> 00:11:49,166 Like I build software for the deck. 364 00:11:49,416 --> 00:11:50,625 I just haven't released in a while. 365 00:11:51,041 --> 00:11:53,416 And so I'm revamping it, but I have like 366 00:11:53,416 --> 00:11:56,333 a hundred plus of these that you can 367 00:11:56,375 --> 00:11:58,083 install technically just through like 368 00:11:58,083 --> 00:12:00,625 clicking a button, but, uh, before I had 369 00:12:00,625 --> 00:12:01,916 a script that did it. 370 00:12:01,916 --> 00:12:04,833 And so the, the, the four times of them 371 00:12:04,833 --> 00:12:05,791 actually supporting it. 372 00:12:05,791 --> 00:12:07,958 So it was always, this is a 373 00:12:07,958 --> 00:12:10,083 fascinating stuff for me alone. 374 00:12:10,083 --> 00:12:11,791 It's just this, uh, variant stuff of 375 00:12:11,791 --> 00:12:14,750 like, why they're, 376 00:12:14,750 --> 00:12:15,958 they're changing all the 377 00:12:15,958 --> 00:12:18,208 stuff up and maybe there's some extra 378 00:12:18,208 --> 00:12:19,916 special stuff that they're working on. 379 00:12:20,833 --> 00:12:21,041 Yeah. 380 00:12:21,541 --> 00:12:22,958 To make those variants different. 381 00:12:22,958 --> 00:12:23,166 But yeah. 382 00:12:25,958 --> 00:12:26,125 Yeah. 383 00:12:26,333 --> 00:12:28,000 Oh, I'm curious what this other 384 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,250 screenshot is for, um, the steam UI movie 385 00:12:31,458 --> 00:12:34,416 steam OS suspend, uh, and steam was 386 00:12:34,416 --> 00:12:35,416 suspend from the robber. 387 00:12:37,083 --> 00:12:38,416 I'm curious what those are. 388 00:12:38,416 --> 00:12:39,000 Do you see those? 389 00:12:40,791 --> 00:12:44,791 So the suspicious, uh, steam was suspend 390 00:12:44,791 --> 00:12:48,125 from the robber must be less state 391 00:12:48,125 --> 00:12:48,958 that it gets into. 392 00:12:49,291 --> 00:12:51,500 So yeah, there's a, there's like 393 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:53,708 animations or like movies that can, uh, 394 00:12:53,916 --> 00:12:55,583 uh, there's a startup, there's a suspend. 395 00:12:55,583 --> 00:12:57,708 So like when you press the button and the 396 00:12:57,708 --> 00:12:59,500 deck goes to sleep, you can actually play 397 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:02,583 a movie, um, or play like a video. 398 00:13:03,125 --> 00:13:04,458 And I don't know why they call movies. 399 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,291 It's a little weird, but yeah, it's like 400 00:13:07,291 --> 00:13:09,791 an animation or a video. 401 00:13:10,291 --> 00:13:12,541 And so the suspend with robber, I not 402 00:13:12,541 --> 00:13:14,166 100% sure what that even would 403 00:13:14,208 --> 00:13:15,666 entail, but I would assume it'd be a 404 00:13:15,666 --> 00:13:17,375 state that the suspend 405 00:13:17,375 --> 00:13:18,916 would probably get into. 406 00:13:18,916 --> 00:13:20,708 That was maybe weird for them. 407 00:13:21,333 --> 00:13:23,500 Um, speaking of boot animations, have you 408 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:25,791 seen the new one for the, uh, the winter 409 00:13:25,791 --> 00:13:29,375 sale that just passed the one, the one 410 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:31,500 featuring the steam, uh, the steam cat 411 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:32,625 girl delivery girl? 412 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:34,125 I have not. 413 00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:37,125 You should check it out. 414 00:13:37,125 --> 00:13:38,958 But anyways, uh, speaking of which the 415 00:13:38,958 --> 00:13:40,791 artist put out a note saying that that 416 00:13:40,791 --> 00:13:43,208 was her, uh, lat that it was a fun time. 417 00:13:43,208 --> 00:13:44,833 And unfortunately that was the last art 418 00:13:44,833 --> 00:13:47,375 she'll be doing for, uh, valve. 419 00:13:48,958 --> 00:13:50,958 That's unless unless they, uh, unless 420 00:13:50,958 --> 00:13:51,708 they contact her again 421 00:13:51,708 --> 00:13:52,416 or something like that. 422 00:13:52,416 --> 00:13:55,166 But they could, they could, but it sounds 423 00:13:55,166 --> 00:13:56,416 like the contract or at least 424 00:13:56,416 --> 00:13:58,166 like it's, it's, it's done for now. 425 00:13:58,708 --> 00:14:00,041 I think she did a great job. 426 00:14:00,416 --> 00:14:01,000 I think so too. 427 00:14:01,875 --> 00:14:02,000 Yeah. 428 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,125 I'd love to see more of it. 429 00:14:03,166 --> 00:14:04,583 I really liked that's one of the things I 430 00:14:04,583 --> 00:14:06,291 like about the steam cells as opposed 431 00:14:06,291 --> 00:14:08,750 to other places is that it just seemed 432 00:14:08,750 --> 00:14:10,625 like a fun, cozy place to be when you're 433 00:14:10,625 --> 00:14:12,416 buying stuff, it just, it felt fun. 434 00:14:12,625 --> 00:14:15,791 And I really appreciate that in today's 435 00:14:15,791 --> 00:14:18,291 world of like, try to make things as 436 00:14:18,291 --> 00:14:21,083 cheap as possible, and we're only looking 437 00:14:21,083 --> 00:14:22,833 for the cheapest price, but also making 438 00:14:23,625 --> 00:14:25,291 the seasonal fun sell. 439 00:14:25,291 --> 00:14:25,625 I don't know. 440 00:14:25,625 --> 00:14:26,375 I have, I find it fun. 441 00:14:26,958 --> 00:14:27,833 Maybe my brain's broken 442 00:14:27,833 --> 00:14:29,583 on that, but it's fun. 443 00:14:31,541 --> 00:14:31,875 Yeah. 444 00:14:32,166 --> 00:14:35,083 So, so back to CS, who else do you think 445 00:14:35,083 --> 00:14:36,000 is going to be there too? 446 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,208 Cause I know, uh, retro game core is 447 00:14:38,208 --> 00:14:39,083 definitely going to be there. 448 00:14:39,083 --> 00:14:39,916 We'll have asked him about 449 00:14:39,916 --> 00:14:41,583 what he saw at some point. 450 00:14:42,583 --> 00:14:44,500 So can I add a quick note 451 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:45,666 with the throbber stuff? 452 00:14:46,291 --> 00:14:46,541 Yes. 453 00:14:47,041 --> 00:14:48,416 The robbers still is a loading icon. 454 00:14:48,583 --> 00:14:49,458 I never call it this, 455 00:14:49,458 --> 00:14:50,291 but it's a loading icon. 456 00:14:50,291 --> 00:14:51,541 So when you see it spinning, 457 00:14:52,166 --> 00:14:53,291 Oh, like when it's 458 00:14:53,291 --> 00:14:54,041 like building up a game. 459 00:14:54,708 --> 00:14:55,000 Yeah. 460 00:14:55,375 --> 00:14:55,541 Yeah. 461 00:14:56,291 --> 00:14:56,666 I see. 462 00:14:57,208 --> 00:14:57,500 I see. 463 00:14:58,291 --> 00:14:58,833 So yeah. 464 00:14:59,083 --> 00:15:01,666 And if you look above, there's also, um, 465 00:15:01,958 --> 00:15:03,750 above the additions here, there's also 466 00:15:03,833 --> 00:15:06,375 Oled suspend animation and Oled suspend 467 00:15:06,375 --> 00:15:08,208 animation from throbber. 468 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:09,833 So I missed that when I asked the 469 00:15:09,833 --> 00:15:11,458 question, but so it looks like they just 470 00:15:11,458 --> 00:15:12,541 have like a generic steam 471 00:15:12,541 --> 00:15:13,708 OS one that they're adding. 472 00:15:14,083 --> 00:15:14,291 Yeah. 473 00:15:14,916 --> 00:15:17,250 Um, which kind of reinforces my belief 474 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:19,166 that the generic is going to be just 475 00:15:19,166 --> 00:15:21,500 a steam OS boot up icon. 476 00:15:23,083 --> 00:15:23,333 Yeah. 477 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:24,166 That makes sense. 478 00:15:24,166 --> 00:15:24,958 That makes a lot of sense. 479 00:15:25,458 --> 00:15:27,458 So, I mean, everything leads towards 480 00:15:27,458 --> 00:15:29,291 steam OS is coming for everything. 481 00:15:29,791 --> 00:15:30,916 Like they're releasing steam OS. 482 00:15:31,708 --> 00:15:31,916 Yeah. 483 00:15:34,875 --> 00:15:35,208 Yep. 484 00:15:35,541 --> 00:15:37,458 That, that'll be interesting. 485 00:15:37,750 --> 00:15:39,375 So like, yeah, with the CES stuff, like 486 00:15:39,375 --> 00:15:42,250 we, we know that there are like, there's 487 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:44,000 good rumors that Lenovo is going to be 488 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,333 releasing something there with valve 489 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:47,958 potentially being there and all that. 490 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,166 Do you think another handheld device 491 00:15:51,166 --> 00:15:54,000 could be revealed at CES and maybe turn 492 00:15:54,125 --> 00:15:56,291 the flip it around to where valve 493 00:15:56,291 --> 00:15:57,958 actually might like, I don't know if we 494 00:15:57,958 --> 00:15:59,333 can see if they actually have a booth, 495 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,625 but if they had a booth where they 496 00:16:01,625 --> 00:16:02,625 partnered with a couple of different 497 00:16:02,625 --> 00:16:04,083 companies like Lenovo and actually 498 00:16:04,083 --> 00:16:04,875 that's where we're showcased. 499 00:16:06,416 --> 00:16:09,000 I can see maybe MSI being there. 500 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,791 Cause that's where they showcase the MSI 501 00:16:10,791 --> 00:16:13,708 claw at CES last year. 502 00:16:15,291 --> 00:16:18,416 And, uh, I know Nvidia is definitely 503 00:16:18,416 --> 00:16:19,916 going to be there because there's 504 00:16:19,916 --> 00:16:21,000 something around the corner, 505 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:21,875 which we'll talk about later. 506 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:26,000 If they, if they did come out with, uh, 507 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,791 like if there was another company with 508 00:16:27,791 --> 00:16:30,125 steam OS hardware, it would be 509 00:16:30,125 --> 00:16:31,125 interesting to see if 510 00:16:31,125 --> 00:16:33,458 they debuted like support for 511 00:16:33,458 --> 00:16:36,666 anything other than AMD APUs, because 512 00:16:36,666 --> 00:16:40,333 right now, as far as I understand it, uh, 513 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,958 they only support AMD, CPUs and GPUs on 514 00:16:43,958 --> 00:16:46,333 steam OS from my understanding. 515 00:16:47,666 --> 00:16:50,166 I definitely would not plan on them 516 00:16:50,166 --> 00:16:50,958 supporting anything because they're 517 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,833 been so, um, cautious on releasing steam 518 00:16:55,833 --> 00:16:58,958 OS, um, like the, the, the three version 519 00:16:59,041 --> 00:17:02,458 three, um, I feel like they're so 520 00:17:02,458 --> 00:17:03,916 cautious with that, that 521 00:17:03,916 --> 00:17:05,250 I'd be shocked if they've 522 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:07,458 released it for anything beside, like if 523 00:17:07,458 --> 00:17:08,958 they, let's say they partnered up with 524 00:17:08,958 --> 00:17:10,458 Lenovo or MSI that did 525 00:17:10,458 --> 00:17:11,250 release it for Intel. 526 00:17:11,666 --> 00:17:14,833 I'm assuming AMD through this first 527 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:17,625 portion and then I could see them support 528 00:17:17,833 --> 00:17:19,333 like Intel probably wouldn't be an easy 529 00:17:19,333 --> 00:17:20,625 or wouldn't be a hard one for them to 530 00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:24,750 support, but it's just because the AMD 531 00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:26,166 architectures are so similar. 532 00:17:27,250 --> 00:17:28,208 That's there. 533 00:17:28,208 --> 00:17:30,125 There should be no reason why steam OS 534 00:17:30,125 --> 00:17:31,208 shouldn't work on these other 535 00:17:31,208 --> 00:17:34,958 devices, like enough, as long as the 536 00:17:34,958 --> 00:17:39,250 drivers are installed, but I am curious. 537 00:17:39,625 --> 00:17:42,500 They also with these changes going on, 538 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:44,125 these generic changes, could they also 539 00:17:44,416 --> 00:17:48,125 lend towards other rumors that valve is 540 00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:50,625 working with maybe other companies 541 00:17:50,625 --> 00:17:52,666 were working on their own hardware for a 542 00:17:52,666 --> 00:17:53,791 steam machine release? 543 00:17:53,916 --> 00:17:55,916 Like could this also translate over to a 544 00:17:55,916 --> 00:17:57,708 steam machine, not just a handheld? 545 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,125 Yeah, I think, yeah, I 546 00:18:00,125 --> 00:18:01,291 think it's totally possible. 547 00:18:01,958 --> 00:18:06,250 Um, yeah, I would, I would imagine just 548 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:09,041 because valve has special branding 549 00:18:09,208 --> 00:18:12,083 for the LCD and the OLED that they would 550 00:18:12,083 --> 00:18:14,833 also have some kind of special branding 551 00:18:14,875 --> 00:18:16,416 for Fremont, whatever 552 00:18:16,416 --> 00:18:17,500 that ends up being called. 553 00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:21,416 Um, but yeah, I mean, making this system, 554 00:18:22,208 --> 00:18:24,250 the boot up movies and whatever more 555 00:18:24,291 --> 00:18:27,125 robust and able to support so many 556 00:18:27,125 --> 00:18:29,875 variations, I think that it makes sense 557 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:33,916 that they would, uh, Release Fremont and 558 00:18:33,916 --> 00:18:36,166 have it be its own branded thing. 559 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:39,500 Do you think so in the future with these 560 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:41,500 diffs, you think that like in these 561 00:18:41,583 --> 00:18:43,708 enums, you think we'd see a Fremont style 562 00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:46,958 label, like whatever gold or whatever. 563 00:18:46,958 --> 00:18:47,333 I don't know. 564 00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:49,250 I don't know why they do the naming 565 00:18:49,250 --> 00:18:52,166 convention they do, but so you'd probably 566 00:18:52,166 --> 00:18:53,625 say that's maybe just credit as maybe 567 00:18:53,625 --> 00:18:55,291 Fremont being announced at this and it's 568 00:18:55,291 --> 00:18:58,250 just more maybe could be a steam machine. 569 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,750 Just it would be a third party, not like 570 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:02,625 a Fremont because I think three months 571 00:19:03,083 --> 00:19:04,750 it's supposed to be first party, right? 572 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,708 Like valves on hardware. 573 00:19:06,708 --> 00:19:08,125 My, from my understanding valve is 574 00:19:08,125 --> 00:19:09,375 working with the same 575 00:19:09,375 --> 00:19:10,750 manufacturing partner that 576 00:19:10,750 --> 00:19:12,000 they did with the, uh, with 577 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,291 the steam deck for Fremont. 578 00:19:13,958 --> 00:19:17,791 Um, and I would imagine when we see diffs 579 00:19:17,791 --> 00:19:21,458 like this for another, uh, type of 580 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:23,541 hardware, we would, uh, that's when we 581 00:19:23,541 --> 00:19:25,208 would expect to see Fremont debuted 582 00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:26,375 some sometime soon. 583 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:27,875 It's quantum people, right? 584 00:19:29,291 --> 00:19:29,875 Is it quantum? 585 00:19:30,458 --> 00:19:31,500 I think it was. 586 00:19:31,791 --> 00:19:32,083 Quanta. 587 00:19:32,625 --> 00:19:32,916 Quanta. 588 00:19:33,125 --> 00:19:33,708 Quanta. 589 00:19:33,708 --> 00:19:33,916 Yes. 590 00:19:34,125 --> 00:19:35,583 Oh, yeah. 591 00:19:35,833 --> 00:19:37,291 Like, like, at least I 592 00:19:37,291 --> 00:19:38,083 know that for the LCD. 593 00:19:38,583 --> 00:19:39,750 I don't know if it's the same for the 594 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:41,375 OLED, but I mean, it probably is. 595 00:19:41,375 --> 00:19:41,583 Right. 596 00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:42,833 I would imagine. 597 00:19:43,541 --> 00:19:44,125 Um, yeah. 598 00:19:44,291 --> 00:19:44,500 Quantum. 599 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:45,833 You said quantum computing and I was 600 00:19:45,833 --> 00:19:49,666 like, Oh, here we go with a black Mesa. 601 00:19:51,416 --> 00:19:53,625 Uh, you just triggered me on like 602 00:19:53,625 --> 00:19:55,333 half-life always has to be innovative. 603 00:19:55,333 --> 00:19:57,333 Every time it releases, it's like quantum 604 00:19:57,333 --> 00:19:59,000 computing confirmed this year. 605 00:19:59,041 --> 00:20:00,083 It's coming out this year. 606 00:20:00,083 --> 00:20:01,125 Half-life is going to be the first game 607 00:20:01,125 --> 00:20:02,708 to support quantum computing. 608 00:20:04,208 --> 00:20:06,291 That's where my mind, I'm sorry. 609 00:20:08,791 --> 00:20:09,916 I couldn't imagine that. 610 00:20:09,916 --> 00:20:10,291 Let's crit. 611 00:20:11,583 --> 00:20:13,625 One thing that I want to mention is, have 612 00:20:13,625 --> 00:20:16,458 you guys noticed that, uh, it's blue 613 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:20,708 for LCD and it's, uh, uh, orange for L 614 00:20:20,708 --> 00:20:24,083 uh, LED, which are the color of portals. 615 00:20:24,833 --> 00:20:25,000 Oh, 616 00:20:27,625 --> 00:20:30,083 oh, no. 617 00:20:30,291 --> 00:20:31,416 Oh my God. 618 00:20:31,958 --> 00:20:33,041 Half-life or I'm sorry. 619 00:20:33,041 --> 00:20:33,833 Portal three confirmed. 620 00:20:34,583 --> 00:20:37,875 What's all three confirmed portal here. 621 00:20:38,250 --> 00:20:38,625 First, bro. 622 00:20:39,666 --> 00:20:41,125 Portal three needs to have three portals. 623 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:41,625 Three. 624 00:20:41,625 --> 00:20:42,666 Don't like the portals, dude. 625 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:43,500 Portal three. 626 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:44,166 Oh man. 627 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:46,333 That's my number one, most winning game. 628 00:20:47,083 --> 00:20:47,458 Is it? 629 00:20:47,708 --> 00:20:48,708 I love portal. 630 00:20:49,291 --> 00:20:50,833 I had it's half-life for me, but then 631 00:20:50,833 --> 00:20:52,000 portal is really close. 632 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:54,208 It's just up until very recently portal 633 00:20:54,208 --> 00:20:56,208 was my most played game on steam. 634 00:20:57,333 --> 00:20:57,875 Portal two. 635 00:20:57,875 --> 00:20:58,291 I'm sorry. 636 00:20:58,291 --> 00:21:00,208 Portal two is really good. 637 00:21:00,208 --> 00:21:03,166 They did a fantastic job with the story. 638 00:21:04,166 --> 00:21:06,000 Like it's, it's a fun ride. 639 00:21:07,125 --> 00:21:09,833 Did I hope one day we'll get, uh, we'll 640 00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:12,500 get portal three or half-life three for 641 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:12,791 the matter. 642 00:21:13,708 --> 00:21:14,458 I think we will. 643 00:21:14,458 --> 00:21:16,375 Honestly, I think, no, I think we, I 644 00:21:16,375 --> 00:21:17,166 think we're going to, well, I don't 645 00:21:17,166 --> 00:21:18,333 know if they'll be called three. 646 00:21:18,791 --> 00:21:19,708 Like you could argue that 647 00:21:19,708 --> 00:21:21,750 half-life Alex is half-life three. 648 00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:22,583 Yeah. 649 00:21:22,583 --> 00:21:23,666 And they're just trolling us. 650 00:21:23,958 --> 00:21:25,625 Like it will probably be half-life four 651 00:21:25,625 --> 00:21:26,375 that comes out this year. 652 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,750 And they're just like, Hey, sorry guys. 653 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:30,083 Half-life Alex is half-life three. 654 00:21:30,083 --> 00:21:31,375 We just wanted to troll you guys. 655 00:21:31,375 --> 00:21:32,500 And I'd be down with that. 656 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:33,500 Cause I could see Gabe doing that. 657 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:35,791 He gets really frustrated with people 658 00:21:35,791 --> 00:21:37,541 asking you when, when 659 00:21:37,541 --> 00:21:38,375 half-life three's out. 660 00:21:38,375 --> 00:21:39,750 And I know that he's like, if someone 661 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:40,625 else says it again, I 662 00:21:40,625 --> 00:21:41,708 know half-life three. 663 00:21:42,125 --> 00:21:43,291 That could have been his 664 00:21:43,291 --> 00:21:44,750 promise was half-life Alex. 665 00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:44,958 Sorry. 666 00:21:45,166 --> 00:21:48,208 My, my conspiracy has been on this week. 667 00:21:48,208 --> 00:21:50,333 So how about half-life X? 668 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:53,958 Would you prefer it be called half-life 669 00:21:53,958 --> 00:21:55,208 three or half-life X? 670 00:21:56,250 --> 00:21:57,166 Well, that's half-life ten. 671 00:21:57,166 --> 00:21:58,458 I get one. 672 00:21:59,166 --> 00:21:59,958 Yeah, I'd do right. 673 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:01,250 If we're going off of 674 00:22:01,250 --> 00:22:03,000 apples, maybe convention. 675 00:22:03,916 --> 00:22:04,916 I don't care. 676 00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:08,250 Half-life X one, then half-life X two. 677 00:22:08,916 --> 00:22:09,916 Look, I prefer to call 678 00:22:09,916 --> 00:22:10,916 it half-life Twitter. 679 00:22:11,416 --> 00:22:11,625 Okay. 680 00:22:12,041 --> 00:22:13,708 Oh my gosh. 681 00:22:15,166 --> 00:22:15,583 Half-life. 682 00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:16,000 Shoulder. 683 00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:16,708 Um, yeah. 684 00:22:16,916 --> 00:22:19,041 So I don't, I don't care. 685 00:22:19,416 --> 00:22:21,458 I think the evidence points that like 686 00:22:21,458 --> 00:22:23,666 Left 4 Dead X was a 687 00:22:23,666 --> 00:22:25,000 code name for Left 4 Dead 3 688 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,958 before they canceled it. 689 00:22:26,208 --> 00:22:28,875 So it sounds like it might be a way that 690 00:22:28,875 --> 00:22:31,083 they code name things, um, sort of. 691 00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:33,333 Why did they, uh, cancel Left 4 Dead 3? 692 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:37,166 Um, they probably just didn't 693 00:22:37,166 --> 00:22:38,375 feel like it was fun enough. 694 00:22:38,916 --> 00:22:40,458 Uh, they could also put 695 00:22:40,458 --> 00:22:41,250 it on the back burner. 696 00:22:41,541 --> 00:22:42,666 Maybe they morphed it 697 00:22:42,666 --> 00:22:43,458 into a different game. 698 00:22:43,458 --> 00:22:43,875 They do that. 699 00:22:44,125 --> 00:22:46,750 Like valve is a very weird company when 700 00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:47,458 it comes to development. 701 00:22:48,541 --> 00:22:49,208 Which I love. 702 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:52,375 So that doesn't mean half-life or, uh, 703 00:22:52,375 --> 00:22:54,125 Left 4 Dead 3 could not happen. 704 00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:56,333 It's just, they didn't think 705 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:57,750 it was worth it at the time. 706 00:22:58,166 --> 00:22:59,166 So they canceled it. 707 00:22:59,416 --> 00:23:00,000 Is one of them. 708 00:23:00,458 --> 00:23:03,208 That was just, that was the era of valve, 709 00:23:03,666 --> 00:23:05,416 like just canceling everything too. 710 00:23:05,791 --> 00:23:08,000 Like, I mean, after Dota 2, right? 711 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,833 Like it was just, there 712 00:23:08,833 --> 00:23:10,416 was nothing for a long time. 713 00:23:11,791 --> 00:23:14,208 I think they did release one, uh, card 714 00:23:14,208 --> 00:23:15,916 game that did really poorly too. 715 00:23:15,916 --> 00:23:17,333 And I don't think that helped. 716 00:23:17,833 --> 00:23:19,500 So they released something 717 00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:20,791 that probably didn't help. 718 00:23:20,791 --> 00:23:22,500 It's almost, you can almost see valve as 719 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:24,166 like a person in its own self. 720 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:25,791 Like they did really well 721 00:23:25,791 --> 00:23:27,875 the first, uh, two games. 722 00:23:28,416 --> 00:23:30,708 Then they had some expansions in both 723 00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:31,833 half-life and half-life too. 724 00:23:31,833 --> 00:23:32,916 That just did okay. 725 00:23:33,208 --> 00:23:33,750 Even though they're very 726 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:35,083 iconic, they just did okay. 727 00:23:35,666 --> 00:23:37,708 And that might've caused some self doubt. 728 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:41,541 And that's why, um, portal one happened 729 00:23:41,541 --> 00:23:42,708 because we're going into 730 00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:43,958 deep dive territory here. 731 00:23:44,250 --> 00:23:47,000 Portal one happened because it was, um, 732 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,166 essentially a tech demo from a college 733 00:23:49,291 --> 00:23:50,375 student that was applying or something 734 00:23:50,375 --> 00:23:51,541 like that, some along those lines. 735 00:23:51,541 --> 00:23:53,375 So they brought it on, finished it. 736 00:23:53,666 --> 00:23:55,166 And then portal two came from that. 737 00:23:55,375 --> 00:23:56,666 So, and they do iterative 738 00:23:56,666 --> 00:23:57,875 stuff really fast like that. 739 00:23:57,875 --> 00:23:59,333 So if they do really well with the first 740 00:23:59,333 --> 00:24:01,375 one, they have a lot of ideas for 741 00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:02,833 the second one that they get out. 742 00:24:03,291 --> 00:24:07,666 And so once like left for dead and portal 743 00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:10,000 was out, they kind of fumbled around. 744 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,083 And I think they kind of 745 00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:12,416 had lost some self-confidence. 746 00:24:13,083 --> 00:24:14,083 That's what it sounds like. 747 00:24:14,833 --> 00:24:16,083 Um, and so that's why I think we're 748 00:24:16,083 --> 00:24:16,791 starting to see some of that 749 00:24:16,791 --> 00:24:18,000 self-confidence come back. 750 00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:19,000 Yeah. 751 00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:20,958 They also didn't need to release new 752 00:24:20,958 --> 00:24:22,583 games for a while, but you know, 753 00:24:22,958 --> 00:24:23,541 they still don't know. 754 00:24:23,541 --> 00:24:24,916 I don't think that's, I don't think 755 00:24:24,916 --> 00:24:25,958 that's how they play though. 756 00:24:25,958 --> 00:24:28,041 That's the thing they, if, if they were 757 00:24:28,041 --> 00:24:29,500 like, that's what makes them interesting. 758 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:31,291 And they still do capitalistic things 759 00:24:31,291 --> 00:24:32,541 that are kind of annoying sometimes. 760 00:24:32,541 --> 00:24:32,708 Right. 761 00:24:32,708 --> 00:24:34,333 We talked about that last week with the, 762 00:24:34,666 --> 00:24:36,583 the whole gambling thing where 763 00:24:36,583 --> 00:24:37,833 they can maybe squash that more. 764 00:24:38,583 --> 00:24:42,166 But internally, we don't know exactly how 765 00:24:42,166 --> 00:24:43,750 much of that's being 766 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:45,000 run by who and whatnot. 767 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:47,958 So if they, if there were like a lot of 768 00:24:47,958 --> 00:24:50,083 other game companies or companies, they 769 00:24:50,083 --> 00:24:53,000 would just stop making games and just 770 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,083 would have stuck with one or two live 771 00:24:55,083 --> 00:24:58,000 act or live service and steam and they 772 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,458 wouldn't, but so I, there's a lot of 773 00:25:00,458 --> 00:25:01,333 passion and you can 774 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:02,166 see it with a game too. 775 00:25:02,166 --> 00:25:03,916 There's a lot of, they, he didn't need to 776 00:25:03,916 --> 00:25:07,083 quit Microsoft and do valve him and his 777 00:25:07,125 --> 00:25:09,000 co-founder, like they 778 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,666 didn't need to do that. 779 00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:13,666 So I think that's rooted in the whole 780 00:25:13,666 --> 00:25:15,916 company's like mantra and hopefully 781 00:25:15,916 --> 00:25:17,166 that doesn't go away anytime soon. 782 00:25:17,166 --> 00:25:18,125 So we'll see. 783 00:25:18,666 --> 00:25:20,250 Valve is one of those companies that you 784 00:25:20,250 --> 00:25:21,041 can never predict 785 00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:21,875 what they're going to do. 786 00:25:22,083 --> 00:25:24,000 Like, no, I don't think like not even 787 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,041 like five years ago, we wouldn't have, we 788 00:25:26,041 --> 00:25:27,208 wouldn't have ever predicted that valve 789 00:25:27,208 --> 00:25:29,291 would make a PC handheld and not 790 00:25:29,291 --> 00:25:31,208 actually make that market viable. 791 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:31,708 Right. 792 00:25:32,833 --> 00:25:33,041 Yeah. 793 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:34,541 Like no one would have 794 00:25:34,541 --> 00:25:35,416 ever seen that coming. 795 00:25:35,583 --> 00:25:37,958 And yeah, they killed it. 796 00:25:38,583 --> 00:25:39,333 No steam machine was 797 00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:40,333 another thing that caused them. 798 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:41,541 I think some hesitation too. 799 00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:42,958 Like I think they lost a lot of 800 00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:45,416 confidence in the early 2010s. 801 00:25:45,625 --> 00:25:49,916 And so, um, but luckily they didn't give 802 00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:52,416 up and kind of more, like they kept on 803 00:25:52,416 --> 00:25:54,333 going and yeah, I mean, it's been a 804 00:25:54,333 --> 00:25:55,333 decade long endeavor 805 00:25:55,333 --> 00:25:56,541 for them to like make 806 00:25:56,625 --> 00:25:58,791 Linux viable for gaming, like no offense. 807 00:25:58,791 --> 00:25:59,125 Carter. 808 00:25:59,125 --> 00:26:00,333 I know you've been following Linux and 809 00:26:00,333 --> 00:26:02,583 getting for like decades now, but like, 810 00:26:03,833 --> 00:26:04,333 I think you understand 811 00:26:04,333 --> 00:26:05,125 where I'm coming from, right? 812 00:26:05,125 --> 00:26:05,500 Oh yeah. 813 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:05,958 Yeah. 814 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,083 I mean, I was, so I started my channel 815 00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:12,083 like, uh, just after valve announced the 816 00:26:12,083 --> 00:26:15,458 steam machines and, uh, because I was 817 00:26:15,458 --> 00:26:17,291 really, I loved the idea. 818 00:26:17,291 --> 00:26:19,083 I was like, and I had been a Linux gamer 819 00:26:19,083 --> 00:26:21,166 for years at that point before that. 820 00:26:21,625 --> 00:26:24,583 Uh, and so I was like, totally gung ho. 821 00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:27,791 And, uh, and then they didn't really do 822 00:26:27,791 --> 00:26:29,458 very well, but there were still 823 00:26:29,458 --> 00:26:30,791 a ton of games to talk about. 824 00:26:30,791 --> 00:26:32,791 So, uh, I don't know. 825 00:26:32,833 --> 00:26:34,208 I'm not going to take credit for valve 826 00:26:34,208 --> 00:26:36,166 coming back to Linux gaming. 827 00:26:36,166 --> 00:26:37,083 They never really left. 828 00:26:37,083 --> 00:26:39,833 They've been the driving force, but like, 829 00:26:39,833 --> 00:26:42,333 dude, I mean, it was, it was rough 830 00:26:42,333 --> 00:26:44,250 there between steam machines and proton. 831 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:45,666 It was really rough. 832 00:26:45,666 --> 00:26:48,000 It was, it was very, it was 833 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,708 an uncertain time for sure. 834 00:26:50,708 --> 00:26:52,833 Now you say you play games on one X, but 835 00:26:52,833 --> 00:26:55,416 we saw what you played last year. 836 00:26:55,416 --> 00:26:56,375 It was not on Linux. 837 00:26:56,708 --> 00:26:57,666 I know it wasn't. 838 00:26:57,875 --> 00:26:58,083 I know. 839 00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:58,500 I know. 840 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:00,916 I'm, I'm, I'm messing with. 841 00:27:01,291 --> 00:27:03,791 No, no, it literally like, that was the 842 00:27:03,791 --> 00:27:06,625 most weird year, like, because I was 843 00:27:06,666 --> 00:27:09,791 developing dudelings and God, I haven't 844 00:27:09,791 --> 00:27:11,500 had any time to play games, but. 845 00:27:12,166 --> 00:27:14,500 But thankfully, uh, steam, uh, the steam 846 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:15,583 deck counts as Linux gaming. 847 00:27:16,041 --> 00:27:16,500 So it does. 848 00:27:16,708 --> 00:27:16,958 It does. 849 00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:18,791 So I'm guessing I just about. 850 00:27:19,958 --> 00:27:20,250 Oh yeah. 851 00:27:20,958 --> 00:27:23,541 So I do, I do want to ask one 852 00:27:23,541 --> 00:27:25,000 more thing with the CES stuff. 853 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,500 And let's get in the 854 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:27,416 Nvidia with the CES stuff. 855 00:27:27,416 --> 00:27:29,125 Cause I'm really curious if you guys 856 00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,875 think anything, like, is 857 00:27:30,916 --> 00:27:33,000 there any predictions that you have of 858 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,833 anything else that's 859 00:27:33,833 --> 00:27:35,291 going to occur there? 860 00:27:35,875 --> 00:27:38,500 Um, because there's, this is a plethora 861 00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:40,333 of like stuff that could happen this 862 00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:44,583 year at this CES, um, and what's going to 863 00:27:44,583 --> 00:27:46,250 be like, I think handhelds are going to 864 00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:49,625 be taking a pretty big, like, cause it's 865 00:27:49,625 --> 00:27:51,416 just so many companies are, are treating 866 00:27:51,458 --> 00:27:52,916 handhelds more as a viable option. 867 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:54,750 Right. 868 00:27:55,541 --> 00:27:58,500 Definitely a lot of AI, lots of AI. 869 00:27:59,250 --> 00:28:01,791 I, I love AI. 870 00:28:02,416 --> 00:28:04,500 I hate how AI is marketed. 871 00:28:05,541 --> 00:28:07,916 Some kind of AI handheld just for you. 872 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,625 So here's the thing, stop putting AI into 873 00:28:11,625 --> 00:28:12,666 the name of the chipsets. 874 00:28:12,666 --> 00:28:15,708 Like we know that you have, um, uh, API 875 00:28:15,708 --> 00:28:18,000 or you have cores on 876 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,041 there for AI specific 877 00:28:19,041 --> 00:28:21,250 dedicated AI cores, stop 878 00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:22,500 putting AI into the titles. 879 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:23,125 We don't need that. 880 00:28:23,791 --> 00:28:24,375 But that's for the 881 00:28:24,375 --> 00:28:25,708 dumbasses that don't know. 882 00:28:25,708 --> 00:28:26,916 And that they want AI in their machines. 883 00:28:26,958 --> 00:28:31,250 There is, there's no way a dumbass is 884 00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:32,791 going to understand the naming 885 00:28:32,875 --> 00:28:35,375 convention of an AMD APU anyways. 886 00:28:35,583 --> 00:28:36,541 Like you look at that thing, that's going 887 00:28:36,541 --> 00:28:37,958 to make them more confused and probably 888 00:28:38,625 --> 00:28:40,708 like, um, I'm not going to go on that. 889 00:28:41,416 --> 00:28:42,333 It's, it's bad. 890 00:28:42,791 --> 00:28:44,000 Like there's, I don't, I 891 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 don't, I get it, but yeah. 892 00:28:46,708 --> 00:28:48,083 It's marketing jargon for it. 893 00:28:48,083 --> 00:28:50,250 Probably develop, uh, for their, um, 894 00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:51,250 investors and stuff like that. 895 00:28:51,458 --> 00:28:53,500 Probably because anything that's an AI 896 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,666 name, but they could still have named it 897 00:28:56,541 --> 00:28:58,416 the Radeon AI or something like they 898 00:28:58,416 --> 00:29:01,250 could have put it into the actual, um, 899 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:04,250 line name instead of at the very end of 900 00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:05,666 like some weird special chip set. 901 00:29:06,083 --> 00:29:08,166 They need to come up with their own like 902 00:29:08,166 --> 00:29:11,125 branding for AI powered stuff. 903 00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:11,500 Right. 904 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,875 And so like there's Radeon for, for their 905 00:29:14,875 --> 00:29:16,541 GPUs and they should have something 906 00:29:16,541 --> 00:29:18,458 like, I don't know, like show Dan or 907 00:29:18,458 --> 00:29:20,916 something for their AI powered stuff. 908 00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:23,000 Um, I don't know if you get that 909 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,708 reference, but it's the AI from a, 910 00:29:25,791 --> 00:29:28,541 uh, uh, uh, system shock. 911 00:29:28,541 --> 00:29:29,666 It's like AI. 912 00:29:30,125 --> 00:29:30,375 Yeah. 913 00:29:30,625 --> 00:29:31,250 That's right. 914 00:29:31,958 --> 00:29:32,208 Damn. 915 00:29:33,416 --> 00:29:33,625 Yeah. 916 00:29:37,916 --> 00:29:39,625 Speaking of AI and video. 917 00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:42,791 So some prices have been revealed for 918 00:29:42,791 --> 00:29:46,000 Nvidia more specifically in China, but 919 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,541 these aren't completely off the mark 920 00:29:47,541 --> 00:29:48,375 compared to, uh, 921 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:49,916 compared to what's in the 922 00:29:49,958 --> 00:29:54,541 US. So the RTX 50 90 has been listed for 923 00:29:54,541 --> 00:29:58,000 18,999 you watch Chinese Yuan, 924 00:29:58,583 --> 00:30:01,958 which is around $2,600 or, or the 50 925 00:30:01,958 --> 00:30:05,250 eighties blue been listed for 9,999 Yuan, 926 00:30:05,541 --> 00:30:08,541 which is about 13, uh, $1,350. 927 00:30:10,333 --> 00:30:10,583 All right. 928 00:30:10,583 --> 00:30:13,250 Here's the marketing pitch for the, the, 929 00:30:14,041 --> 00:30:15,833 uh, uh, was it the 50 90? 930 00:30:16,291 --> 00:30:16,500 Right. 931 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,250 There's an announcer comes on the screen. 932 00:30:19,291 --> 00:30:20,875 And they're like, Hey, Eddie, you want to 933 00:30:20,875 --> 00:30:22,875 double or triple the price of your PC 934 00:30:22,958 --> 00:30:27,083 build by a 50 90 you want some more AI 935 00:30:27,083 --> 00:30:29,833 and quadruple your, 936 00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:31,166 your power budget too. 937 00:30:31,458 --> 00:30:32,250 I'll be honest. 938 00:30:32,916 --> 00:30:35,041 It doesn't say RTX AI on it. 939 00:30:35,041 --> 00:30:36,041 I'm not buying it. 940 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:37,541 I think they're going to fail. 941 00:30:37,541 --> 00:30:39,000 I have a feeling that they're going to 942 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,750 fail at this fucking Adam Jensen. 943 00:30:42,041 --> 00:30:42,833 You dumb ass. 944 00:30:42,833 --> 00:30:43,791 Don't you know that AI 945 00:30:43,791 --> 00:30:45,583 is the way of the future? 946 00:30:46,083 --> 00:30:48,500 Buy it, buy it right now. 947 00:30:48,958 --> 00:30:51,291 That's why they're valued so high is, is 948 00:30:51,291 --> 00:30:54,708 because of like, um, both AI and also 949 00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:58,541 their other like branding, like gaming is 950 00:30:58,541 --> 00:31:00,250 the one that at least I think valuable 951 00:31:01,791 --> 00:31:05,208 revenues that they have, which is crazy 952 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:07,000 that they would price hike it like this. 953 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,083 So I think you think you, they would 954 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:10,500 lower it and have, because the demand 955 00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,500 would be there, but they, and they see 956 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:13,875 the demands there and I think they could. 957 00:31:14,583 --> 00:31:16,000 Match it with production. 958 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,666 So like this whole like supply and demand 959 00:31:18,666 --> 00:31:20,750 doesn't make sense for me and Nvidia 960 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:22,208 keeps on going higher when it's supposed 961 00:31:22,208 --> 00:31:25,708 to even out and go lower as it's, I don't 962 00:31:25,708 --> 00:31:26,416 think it's that much more 963 00:31:26,416 --> 00:31:27,583 expensive for them to make. 964 00:31:27,583 --> 00:31:29,666 I think there really is just a. 965 00:31:30,041 --> 00:31:31,291 Agreed take, which makes me 966 00:31:31,291 --> 00:31:32,833 even more off put by Nvidia. 967 00:31:32,833 --> 00:31:33,500 And I'm going to probably 968 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,083 be doing more AMD builds. 969 00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:37,916 I just really don't like seeing this. 970 00:31:38,083 --> 00:31:40,875 Like I don't see, there will be people 971 00:31:40,875 --> 00:31:42,333 that will probably, because they're 972 00:31:42,416 --> 00:31:44,541 doing, you know, if it's $2,600, which I 973 00:31:44,541 --> 00:31:47,083 read somewhere else is 22, but, um, even 974 00:31:47,083 --> 00:31:49,291 if it's $2,600, so people will buy this 975 00:31:49,291 --> 00:31:51,333 and we'll offset some of the people not 976 00:31:51,375 --> 00:31:52,666 buying it, but I don't know if it's 977 00:31:52,666 --> 00:31:54,250 actually going to be enough as opposed 978 00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:55,666 to if they drop the price. 979 00:31:55,791 --> 00:31:58,458 So I will say this China does employ that 980 00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:02,125 a 13% that so after adjustments, the 981 00:32:02,125 --> 00:32:04,291 prices of the 20, 58, it'll be around 982 00:32:04,291 --> 00:32:08,083 $1,200 and the 59 it'll be $2,200, which 983 00:32:08,166 --> 00:32:10,208 I've said before, but it's still like a 984 00:32:10,208 --> 00:32:13,750 30% hike for the, uh, for the 90 series, 985 00:32:13,833 --> 00:32:15,250 uh, 92, 18 years. 986 00:32:15,708 --> 00:32:17,750 Expect that to be drastically higher. 987 00:32:17,833 --> 00:32:20,000 Cause, um, there's going to be an 988 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000 American VAD on that or not a VAD. 989 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,291 I wish it was a VAD. 990 00:32:23,583 --> 00:32:24,875 VADs actually have a value added. 991 00:32:24,875 --> 00:32:26,916 It's a value added tax as opposed to, um, 992 00:32:26,916 --> 00:32:28,833 we're going to be having tariffs most 993 00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:30,541 likely and it, and it definitely looks 994 00:32:30,541 --> 00:32:32,541 like there's more doubling down from a 995 00:32:32,541 --> 00:32:33,458 certain amount of registration that's 996 00:32:33,458 --> 00:32:34,166 going to be taken over soon. 997 00:32:34,208 --> 00:32:37,333 So 2025 is going to be a very interesting 998 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:39,041 year with hardware like this. 999 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:42,083 And prices for everything to be honest. 1000 00:32:42,833 --> 00:32:43,041 Oh yeah. 1001 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:44,708 If, if you're really, if 1002 00:32:44,708 --> 00:32:46,166 you're, here's my biggest advice. 1003 00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:48,416 If you planning on buying any type of 1004 00:32:48,416 --> 00:32:50,458 hardware and you want to save some decent 1005 00:32:50,458 --> 00:32:52,000 amount of money, it just might be worth 1006 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,666 getting now as opposed to waiting. 1007 00:32:53,916 --> 00:32:55,791 It, cause if those tariffs do go through, 1008 00:32:56,416 --> 00:33:00,083 you're going to be paying a huge price. 1009 00:33:00,083 --> 00:33:01,541 Like this is that probably going to be 1010 00:33:01,541 --> 00:33:02,500 one of the biggest price hikes we've 1011 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,291 seen potentially on this 1012 00:33:04,291 --> 00:33:05,333 type of hardware in history. 1013 00:33:05,708 --> 00:33:09,166 So if it goes through, I'm skeptical. 1014 00:33:09,625 --> 00:33:10,083 Fucking it. 1015 00:33:10,250 --> 00:33:10,458 No. 1016 00:33:10,916 --> 00:33:13,666 Now to play the devil's advocate for just 1017 00:33:13,666 --> 00:33:15,125 a moment, here's a question. 1018 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,208 I believe high tech, maybe two episodes 1019 00:33:18,208 --> 00:33:19,916 ago complained that 1020 00:33:19,916 --> 00:33:21,000 they have artificially 1021 00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:24,208 limited the amount of VRAM on their, on 1022 00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:25,625 their 40 series cards. 1023 00:33:25,625 --> 00:33:26,416 And even, I think 1024 00:33:26,416 --> 00:33:27,875 they're 30 series cards. 1025 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,541 Is that right? 1026 00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:30,375 For the six, for like 1027 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:31,875 the 62 GPs, I believe. 1028 00:33:31,875 --> 00:33:32,333 Yes. 1029 00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:33,166 Okay. 1030 00:33:33,166 --> 00:33:35,125 Are these the 50 90s here? 1031 00:33:35,125 --> 00:33:38,833 Are they going to have, uh, more VRAM 1032 00:33:38,833 --> 00:33:40,833 than other than the previous cards? 1033 00:33:40,833 --> 00:33:42,625 So I believe these are supposed to have 1034 00:33:42,625 --> 00:33:46,500 32 gigs of DD, GDD or seven RAM. 1035 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,250 Wow. 1036 00:33:49,291 --> 00:33:52,125 So that 32 is like the highest I've heard 1037 00:33:52,125 --> 00:33:53,833 it like, isn't it like 24 is the highest 1038 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:55,208 I've heard it before, unless there's a 1039 00:33:55,208 --> 00:33:58,541 card I'm mistaken that has higher, like, 1040 00:33:58,833 --> 00:34:02,541 so the, the, the 40 90 and I think the 40 1041 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:03,958 90 has a 24 gig, doesn't it? 1042 00:34:03,958 --> 00:34:06,458 And then the 30 90, which we have, uh, we 1043 00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:09,333 have, I think, Carter is right. 1044 00:34:09,541 --> 00:34:10,750 I have a 30 90. 1045 00:34:11,666 --> 00:34:12,083 Yeah. 1046 00:34:12,083 --> 00:34:15,291 Which has what 20 or 80? 1047 00:34:15,291 --> 00:34:15,958 I don't, I don't know how 1048 00:34:15,958 --> 00:34:18,000 much VRAM has, but yeah. 1049 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,500 It has, uh, what, 1050 00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:23,500 where I have 12 gigabytes. 1051 00:34:24,333 --> 00:34:26,041 Oh, I have the bigger one then. 1052 00:34:26,166 --> 00:34:27,666 Um, they have two different models. 1053 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:28,958 That's another thing that's really stupid 1054 00:34:28,958 --> 00:34:30,000 is that they allow for 1055 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,041 different VRAM model. 1056 00:34:31,416 --> 00:34:31,583 Sorry. 1057 00:34:31,708 --> 00:34:32,500 You have a 30 80. 1058 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:32,833 That's right. 1059 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:35,083 So the 30 80 also has two models too. 1060 00:34:35,083 --> 00:34:37,291 I think the 30 90 potentially has two 1061 00:34:37,291 --> 00:34:39,375 VRAM models, but, um, 1062 00:34:40,375 --> 00:34:42,666 this, like usually the, 1063 00:34:42,708 --> 00:34:44,666 the, the 90 series has 1064 00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:46,208 always had plenty of RAM. 1065 00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:47,958 So that's never been the problem. 1066 00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:50,291 Even with the 30 90, like with the one I 1067 00:34:50,291 --> 00:34:51,916 have, I shouldn't have too many issues 1068 00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:54,708 with a lot of heavy, uh, textured games, 1069 00:34:54,708 --> 00:34:57,208 like, uh, large textured games. 1070 00:34:58,166 --> 00:35:02,250 Uh, but the 60 series, like their mid 1071 00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:03,250 range has always been 1072 00:35:03,250 --> 00:35:06,666 like, they've really neutered 1073 00:35:06,666 --> 00:35:08,708 it a lot and it's really infuriating 1074 00:35:08,708 --> 00:35:10,208 because it really just 1075 00:35:10,208 --> 00:35:12,250 ultimately what it does is 1076 00:35:12,416 --> 00:35:15,291 it causes other, like they're forcing 1077 00:35:15,291 --> 00:35:19,041 upgrades every few, like few years. 1078 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:21,666 Because you almost have to with the way 1079 00:35:21,666 --> 00:35:23,875 that textures are a big way to improve, 1080 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:25,875 uh, the way games look. 1081 00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:29,000 And unfortunately, if you throw more or, 1082 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,083 uh, uncompressed in 1083 00:35:30,083 --> 00:35:31,875 the more lifelike they 1084 00:35:31,875 --> 00:35:32,833 look, they're going to be, they're going 1085 00:35:32,833 --> 00:35:33,791 to take up more VRAM. 1086 00:35:34,041 --> 00:35:35,250 So I. 1087 00:35:36,375 --> 00:35:36,583 Yeah. 1088 00:35:36,833 --> 00:35:38,041 So to add to that 1089 00:35:38,041 --> 00:35:39,208 garden, yeah, I did say that. 1090 00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:41,083 And they're doing it again with the 50 1091 00:35:41,083 --> 00:35:44,750 60, the 50 60 is going to have eight gigs 1092 00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:47,000 of VRAM, much like the 40 60. 1093 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,250 And I believe 30 60 had like 12 gigs. 1094 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:50,916 If I'm not mistaken, let me look at that. 1095 00:35:51,125 --> 00:35:51,333 Actually. 1096 00:35:53,041 --> 00:35:53,583 30 60. 1097 00:35:53,875 --> 00:35:55,958 They also had different variants too. 1098 00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:57,666 Like, um, a lot of these, even mid range 1099 00:35:57,666 --> 00:36:00,125 cards had like, you'd have to look for 1100 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:01,750 the VRAM I'd always recommend 1101 00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:03,208 anyone that buys a video card. 1102 00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:04,333 I'd recommend to get 1103 00:36:04,333 --> 00:36:06,250 as much VRAM as you can. 1104 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:07,041 Yeah. 1105 00:36:07,041 --> 00:36:07,666 That might not be as 1106 00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:09,250 big a deal soon, but yeah. 1107 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:09,458 Okay. 1108 00:36:09,458 --> 00:36:09,583 Yeah. 1109 00:36:09,583 --> 00:36:12,000 So the 30 60 had 12 gigs of VRAM. 1110 00:36:13,458 --> 00:36:16,000 So I don't know why they cut down on the 1111 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,250 VRAM for the 60 series. 1112 00:36:17,583 --> 00:36:19,791 Probably just probably the like quote 1113 00:36:19,791 --> 00:36:21,708 unquote save a buck, but really just to 1114 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:23,791 push you to buy the more expensive units 1115 00:36:23,791 --> 00:36:25,083 or something like that. 1116 00:36:25,458 --> 00:36:27,416 Word has to be 50 60 TI. 1117 00:36:28,541 --> 00:36:31,166 We'll have 16 gigs of VRAM. 1118 00:36:32,041 --> 00:36:33,750 But again, why do they 1119 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:35,166 even bother with a TI? 1120 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:37,125 It's, it's fucking stupid. 1121 00:36:38,041 --> 00:36:38,250 Yeah. 1122 00:36:38,458 --> 00:36:40,583 And now like, and I'm just asking, I 1123 00:36:40,583 --> 00:36:41,791 don't, I don't know the question, the 1124 00:36:41,791 --> 00:36:46,666 answer, uh, the, the jump in, um, VRAM 1125 00:36:46,666 --> 00:36:48,666 doesn't come close to justifying 1126 00:36:48,666 --> 00:36:49,750 the jump in price, right? 1127 00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:50,291 Yeah. 1128 00:36:50,666 --> 00:36:50,791 No. 1129 00:36:50,916 --> 00:36:55,250 Also, also with landing the, the, the 50 1130 00:36:55,250 --> 00:37:00,375 70 is supposed to have 12 gigs of VRAM. 1131 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:04,250 Come compared to the 50 60 T I's 16 gigs 1132 00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:07,333 of VRAM and the 50 70 TI is supposed 1133 00:37:07,333 --> 00:37:08,666 to have 16 gigs as well. 1134 00:37:09,833 --> 00:37:11,791 It's just gouging at this point. 1135 00:37:11,791 --> 00:37:12,041 Right. 1136 00:37:12,041 --> 00:37:12,916 I mean, this is ridiculous. 1137 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:15,666 The worst part is that AM worst part is 1138 00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:18,500 that AMD basically does nothing to oppose 1139 00:37:18,583 --> 00:37:18,875 this. 1140 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:21,041 They're, they're happy to watch Nvidia 1141 00:37:21,041 --> 00:37:22,500 hike the prices up because that means 1142 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,000 they can hike it up too, even though they 1143 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,375 may not even justify it. 1144 00:37:25,583 --> 00:37:26,750 Not that Nvidia did or 1145 00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:29,416 anything, but like AMD even less so. 1146 00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:32,291 Maybe that's why we need Intel to really, 1147 00:37:33,291 --> 00:37:35,500 maybe Intel is our saviors on this. 1148 00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:37,458 Like their, their GPS are getting better. 1149 00:37:37,833 --> 00:37:39,041 I've heard great things of 1150 00:37:39,041 --> 00:37:41,541 their new GPU, but for the price. 1151 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,208 Yes. 1152 00:37:42,916 --> 00:37:45,083 But then again, they're pretty big too. 1153 00:37:45,083 --> 00:37:45,708 I don't know. 1154 00:37:45,708 --> 00:37:46,541 I feel like there's going to be some 1155 00:37:46,541 --> 00:37:47,875 price fixing lawsuits coming out. 1156 00:37:48,583 --> 00:37:49,750 Um, on some of the stuff 1157 00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:52,166 personally can't happen soon enough. 1158 00:37:52,666 --> 00:37:53,125 Yeah. 1159 00:37:53,416 --> 00:37:54,041 Yeah. 1160 00:37:54,041 --> 00:37:56,666 I mean, monitors went through that a few 1161 00:37:56,666 --> 00:37:57,375 years ago where they 1162 00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:58,291 had some major lawsuits 1163 00:37:58,291 --> 00:37:59,375 against them because there was price 1164 00:37:59,375 --> 00:38:02,125 price fiction fixing going on, which is 1165 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:06,000 companies, um, talking amongst each other 1166 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,791 and artificially making, um, the cost go 1167 00:38:10,916 --> 00:38:12,708 up when they doesn't need to. 1168 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:14,875 It that's, that's price fixing. 1169 00:38:15,125 --> 00:38:15,333 So. 1170 00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:17,833 Yeah. 1171 00:38:18,208 --> 00:38:19,166 I don't know. 1172 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,791 I don't, I mean, Andy and Nvidia on the 1173 00:38:22,791 --> 00:38:25,125 outside have a lot of competitive, 1174 00:38:25,666 --> 00:38:27,791 mean spirited battles in the past. 1175 00:38:27,791 --> 00:38:29,125 I don't know if you guys have seen, like 1176 00:38:29,125 --> 00:38:30,208 they've said, they've done some pretty 1177 00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:31,916 nasty things, but, uh, 1178 00:38:31,916 --> 00:38:33,000 behind closed doors, who knows? 1179 00:38:33,791 --> 00:38:35,958 Um, I mean, they've been sued in the past 1180 00:38:35,958 --> 00:38:37,958 for price facing both of them. 1181 00:38:38,458 --> 00:38:39,916 They've been sued for colluding. 1182 00:38:40,666 --> 00:38:41,375 Yeah, they have. 1183 00:38:42,791 --> 00:38:45,625 So like what better PR stunt than to make 1184 00:38:45,625 --> 00:38:47,041 it look like you hate each other. 1185 00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:49,666 And then just price 1186 00:38:49,666 --> 00:38:50,541 fixed behind the scenes. 1187 00:38:51,291 --> 00:38:53,000 I definitely wouldn't say AMD is like a 1188 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,416 saint with this, but I definitely trust 1189 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:58,125 AMD a lot more than I do Nvidia because 1190 00:38:58,125 --> 00:39:02,375 the CEO has had said very, very 1191 00:39:02,458 --> 00:39:05,625 specifically mean-spirited things about 1192 00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:09,458 both gamers and also the gamers are like 1193 00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:13,125 the GPU, the GPU market, and they don't, 1194 00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:14,541 because they don't make enough money 1195 00:39:14,541 --> 00:39:16,833 from it, I think they just don't care. 1196 00:39:18,125 --> 00:39:19,750 That they can price I could however they 1197 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:20,875 want instead of being more competitive. 1198 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,458 AMD or, uh, AMD or Nvidia. 1199 00:39:24,458 --> 00:39:24,666 Nvidia. 1200 00:39:25,625 --> 00:39:25,875 Yeah. 1201 00:39:26,166 --> 00:39:26,625 Fucking Nvidia. 1202 00:39:28,541 --> 00:39:29,416 But they do make good stuff. 1203 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,125 I like their cards. 1204 00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:31,916 I really do. 1205 00:39:32,166 --> 00:39:36,791 I just, it's very off-putting to be, um, 1206 00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:38,875 taken advantage of and I don't like it. 1207 00:39:39,250 --> 00:39:40,458 Cause that's what it feels like. 1208 00:39:42,125 --> 00:39:42,500 Yeah. 1209 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,416 And just the fact that like they have 1210 00:39:44,416 --> 00:39:47,208 had, they have like this, uh, history 1211 00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:50,083 of just being like just shitty to people 1212 00:39:50,083 --> 00:39:52,500 that don't make them a ton of money. 1213 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:54,916 You know, like I don't way, way back in 1214 00:39:54,916 --> 00:39:57,291 the day, they like removed a bunch of 1215 00:39:57,291 --> 00:39:59,458 features from the Linux drivers so that 1216 00:39:59,458 --> 00:40:01,708 they were feature parody with windows. 1217 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:04,750 Because there was like some driver, like, 1218 00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:06,500 I think they supported more monitors or 1219 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,166 something on Linux 1220 00:40:08,166 --> 00:40:09,375 than they did on windows. 1221 00:40:09,708 --> 00:40:12,916 And they removed that because whatever, 1222 00:40:12,916 --> 00:40:14,375 like they didn't want to maintain it. 1223 00:40:14,416 --> 00:40:15,875 It was probably a Microsoft rep or 1224 00:40:15,875 --> 00:40:16,541 something like getting 1225 00:40:16,541 --> 00:40:18,208 that it was, there was 1226 00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:19,791 some closed doors stuff on that. 1227 00:40:20,291 --> 00:40:20,500 Yeah. 1228 00:40:21,125 --> 00:40:21,500 Guaranteed. 1229 00:40:21,875 --> 00:40:23,625 At least they have like the open source 1230 00:40:23,625 --> 00:40:25,750 stuff now for their drivers and the 1231 00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:26,916 kernel, which is good, but 1232 00:40:26,916 --> 00:40:28,791 there's still, I don't trust them. 1233 00:40:29,416 --> 00:40:30,000 They're behind. 1234 00:40:30,083 --> 00:40:30,916 Yeah, exactly. 1235 00:40:30,916 --> 00:40:31,500 Don't trust them. 1236 00:40:31,958 --> 00:40:36,333 And at the end of the day, I think this 1237 00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:37,833 is another reason why I like, I know some 1238 00:40:37,833 --> 00:40:39,208 people in the communities and I can't 1239 00:40:39,208 --> 00:40:39,458 remember what you 1240 00:40:39,458 --> 00:40:40,666 guys are stance are like 1241 00:40:40,666 --> 00:40:43,083 on FSR and they like these either frame 1242 00:40:43,083 --> 00:40:45,541 generation or machine learning 1243 00:40:45,625 --> 00:40:46,166 techniques. 1244 00:40:47,583 --> 00:40:51,375 I like them and I like them for multiple 1245 00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:52,500 reasons, but they can 1246 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:53,458 be done very poorly. 1247 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:55,458 But it could be, especially if we have an 1248 00:40:55,458 --> 00:40:57,833 open source, which I think AMD does more 1249 00:40:57,833 --> 00:40:59,125 open source, which is another reason I 1250 00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:00,000 kind of like AMD more. 1251 00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:02,750 So they tend to champion open source, but 1252 00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:04,375 that could be another way to combat some 1253 00:41:04,375 --> 00:41:06,750 of this stuff is how it is like using 1254 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:07,291 those types of 1255 00:41:07,291 --> 00:41:08,291 technologies to not have to 1256 00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:09,875 buy the top dog, but 1257 00:41:09,875 --> 00:41:11,291 to buy the mid range. 1258 00:41:12,166 --> 00:41:14,208 When I was, when I first bought my, like 1259 00:41:14,208 --> 00:41:17,041 my first HD TV, I was 1260 00:41:17,041 --> 00:41:18,041 like, you know what? 1261 00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:19,541 I don't, I don't get it. 1262 00:41:19,541 --> 00:41:20,375 I don't understand this. 1263 00:41:20,625 --> 00:41:21,625 And then, cause I 1264 00:41:21,625 --> 00:41:23,125 only had an X-Box, right? 1265 00:41:23,125 --> 00:41:26,291 Like an original X-Box and the stuff, 1266 00:41:26,291 --> 00:41:27,583 most of the games that I played on there 1267 00:41:27,583 --> 00:41:29,125 didn't support much other 1268 00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:31,416 more than like four 80 P right. 1269 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,875 And then I got a 360 and I connected it 1270 00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:37,916 and I was like, Oh, now I get HD. 1271 00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:40,500 Because there was the raw signal from the 1272 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,083 console going right into the TV. 1273 00:41:43,291 --> 00:41:45,958 But now it's like, in order to get like a 1274 00:41:45,958 --> 00:41:48,041 raw signal at the native resolution, you 1275 00:41:48,041 --> 00:41:51,708 have to introduce this muddy, gross, like 1276 00:41:51,708 --> 00:41:54,875 AI upscaled image that I don't, I don't 1277 00:41:54,875 --> 00:41:56,916 personally like how FSR looks. 1278 00:41:57,333 --> 00:42:00,750 Um, and so that when, when I have, uh, 1279 00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:02,625 when I'm like playing games, I want it to 1280 00:42:02,625 --> 00:42:05,875 run at either the native resolution or if 1281 00:42:05,875 --> 00:42:07,291 it can't support running at the native 1282 00:42:07,375 --> 00:42:09,583 resolution fast enough, 10 ADP, and then 1283 00:42:09,583 --> 00:42:10,833 just upscale it that way. 1284 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:13,541 I don't, I don't, I don't want to have a 1285 00:42:13,541 --> 00:42:15,291 game that's like AI upscaled. 1286 00:42:15,291 --> 00:42:16,083 I think it looks like 1287 00:42:16,083 --> 00:42:17,125 crap most of the time. 1288 00:42:18,166 --> 00:42:21,708 I think it, I completely 1289 00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:23,500 disagree to a point on that. 1290 00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:25,375 I think some games look really good with 1291 00:42:25,375 --> 00:42:28,291 FSR three, especially, and with some, 1292 00:42:28,291 --> 00:42:30,166 especially some of these newer ones, but 1293 00:42:30,166 --> 00:42:31,666 it really depends on the game. 1294 00:42:31,666 --> 00:42:33,583 It depends on how it's implemented and it 1295 00:42:33,583 --> 00:42:36,875 depends on, um, the certain 1296 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,500 outputs and, and I think how greedy the 1297 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:40,833 algorithm is set to. 1298 00:42:41,041 --> 00:42:42,916 Um, maybe I've played them on like the 1299 00:42:42,916 --> 00:42:45,250 most performance setting or something, 1300 00:42:45,250 --> 00:42:46,458 but I just don't like how 1301 00:42:46,458 --> 00:42:47,416 it looks most of the time. 1302 00:42:47,625 --> 00:42:48,083 I can tell. 1303 00:42:48,375 --> 00:42:49,291 Cause I agree with you. 1304 00:42:49,291 --> 00:42:52,083 Like it can look pretty bad at times, but 1305 00:42:52,083 --> 00:42:54,375 where I've played it, where it's more 1306 00:42:54,375 --> 00:42:57,166 set to visuals, it, it can actually 1307 00:42:57,166 --> 00:42:58,750 really help with the 1308 00:42:58,750 --> 00:43:01,041 fidelity with no cost to 1309 00:43:01,041 --> 00:43:03,166 performance, maybe even a decrease in 1310 00:43:03,166 --> 00:43:05,500 like your, or an increase in your FPS. 1311 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,875 So I really think cyberpunk is one of 1312 00:43:08,875 --> 00:43:11,291 those ones where it has a, it's a blurred 1313 00:43:11,291 --> 00:43:13,041 line, it can look really crappy, or it 1314 00:43:13,041 --> 00:43:14,750 can make it look actually quite a bit 1315 00:43:14,750 --> 00:43:16,416 better, which is really cool. 1316 00:43:17,416 --> 00:43:18,166 Once again, though. 1317 00:43:18,875 --> 00:43:22,208 Um, and another reason for these frame 1318 00:43:22,208 --> 00:43:23,666 generation things is also up. 1319 00:43:23,791 --> 00:43:27,000 So the newer ones, what they do more than 1320 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,541 quality is they actually increase our 1321 00:43:29,541 --> 00:43:31,833 frame rate, which can just make it more 1322 00:43:31,833 --> 00:43:33,291 pleasant experience, right? 1323 00:43:33,916 --> 00:43:36,166 Which those ones I haven't actually seen 1324 00:43:36,166 --> 00:43:37,333 as much, I don't know if you guys have 1325 00:43:37,333 --> 00:43:38,791 have noticed, but I haven't seen too much 1326 00:43:38,791 --> 00:43:42,750 of a degradation in quality, but the like 1327 00:43:42,875 --> 00:43:43,750 playing games at 60 1328 00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:45,166 frames is just as beautiful. 1329 00:43:45,875 --> 00:43:48,750 And so if I don't lose any quality and it 1330 00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:50,750 can up into 60, that's all I care about. 1331 00:43:50,958 --> 00:43:52,541 That's all, honestly, all I really care 1332 00:43:52,541 --> 00:43:54,833 about is not having my game skip around 1333 00:43:54,833 --> 00:43:56,500 and it looks well 1334 00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:57,500 enough, like good enough. 1335 00:43:57,708 --> 00:43:59,083 Like that's all I want for my steam deck. 1336 00:44:00,125 --> 00:44:00,291 So. 1337 00:44:01,833 --> 00:44:03,250 I haven't tried any of the frame 1338 00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:04,333 generation stuff yet. 1339 00:44:04,750 --> 00:44:07,250 I don't like the frame generation stuff. 1340 00:44:07,250 --> 00:44:09,083 It just looks too smeary. 1341 00:44:09,083 --> 00:44:11,541 A lot of the time it looks too smeary. 1342 00:44:11,791 --> 00:44:13,208 Honestly, nothing. 1343 00:44:13,875 --> 00:44:14,083 Nothing. 1344 00:44:14,125 --> 00:44:14,333 Nothing. 1345 00:44:14,875 --> 00:44:17,000 If it works like when you're in VR and it 1346 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,166 glitches and it like, like slides the 1347 00:44:19,166 --> 00:44:19,625 image around. 1348 00:44:19,958 --> 00:44:21,458 No, no, that is. 1349 00:44:21,708 --> 00:44:22,416 That makes me sick. 1350 00:44:22,875 --> 00:44:23,166 Yeah. 1351 00:44:23,166 --> 00:44:26,166 That one is more of a, what is it called? 1352 00:44:26,208 --> 00:44:28,708 Sorry. 1353 00:44:28,708 --> 00:44:30,666 It's that's a little different. 1354 00:44:31,208 --> 00:44:33,208 What you probably want to do high tech 1355 00:44:33,208 --> 00:44:35,250 maybe is limit your FPS. 1356 00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:36,750 So you might want to adjust some of the 1357 00:44:36,750 --> 00:44:39,541 settings and then limit the FPS output 1358 00:44:39,833 --> 00:44:42,416 to be more stable at a lower, because if 1359 00:44:42,416 --> 00:44:43,791 it goes too high, you 1360 00:44:43,791 --> 00:44:44,500 could get it to blur 1361 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:45,500 more. 1362 00:44:46,666 --> 00:44:47,583 I guess so you might want to. 1363 00:44:47,916 --> 00:44:49,500 Yeah, you might want to like, if it's on 1364 00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:51,666 the steam deck, you might want to limit 1365 00:44:51,666 --> 00:44:52,500 your FPS. 1366 00:44:53,791 --> 00:44:54,875 Don't get too greedy with that. 1367 00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:57,083 That's that's my opinion on it because 1368 00:44:57,083 --> 00:45:00,708 all it really does frame generation is it 1369 00:45:00,791 --> 00:45:03,083 just takes it can, you can kind of think 1370 00:45:03,083 --> 00:45:04,166 of it as doubling your FPS. 1371 00:45:04,916 --> 00:45:06,583 It just, it just takes the previous image 1372 00:45:06,583 --> 00:45:08,000 and kind of guesses a little bit how it's 1373 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,333 going to be. 1374 00:45:08,541 --> 00:45:10,333 And then just fills them in between. 1375 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,583 It's all really does. 1376 00:45:12,375 --> 00:45:15,208 It's not perfect, but for certain games 1377 00:45:15,208 --> 00:45:16,083 is I definitely 1378 00:45:16,083 --> 00:45:18,000 prefer it, but we don't, we 1379 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,291 don't need to beat this horse anymore. 1380 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,708 I think it's a, I think 1381 00:45:21,708 --> 00:45:22,291 it's a good technology. 1382 00:45:22,583 --> 00:45:24,416 I'm hoping that like, but then again, 1383 00:45:24,416 --> 00:45:25,291 it's very flawed and 1384 00:45:25,291 --> 00:45:26,083 but it's gotten better. 1385 00:45:26,083 --> 00:45:27,666 Like in the early days, it was garbage. 1386 00:45:30,166 --> 00:45:32,166 I'm very hopeful that it can maybe combat 1387 00:45:32,166 --> 00:45:33,291 some of these high prices though. 1388 00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:36,166 Cause if you want to be like sure out 1389 00:45:36,166 --> 00:45:37,458 like as good as 1390 00:45:37,458 --> 00:45:39,500 possible, like raw, like you 1391 00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:40,708 gardener, you're going to have to buy 1392 00:45:40,708 --> 00:45:43,000 like the best card 1393 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,041 oftentimes, depending on if 1394 00:45:44,041 --> 00:45:45,500 you're playing, depending on what type of 1395 00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:46,000 game you're playing. 1396 00:45:46,958 --> 00:45:49,708 But you guys play more indie games though 1397 00:45:49,708 --> 00:45:51,708 that tend to not be as power hungry. 1398 00:45:51,708 --> 00:45:55,250 So you don't even really need oftentimes 1399 00:45:55,250 --> 00:45:55,916 this type of stuff 1400 00:45:55,916 --> 00:45:56,708 that we're talking about. 1401 00:45:56,750 --> 00:46:00,000 So I have a 30 80 in my PC that I think 1402 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,750 I've might've played 1403 00:46:00,750 --> 00:46:02,166 like an hour or two of 1404 00:46:02,166 --> 00:46:05,125 games on, but I do, but I do enjoy the 1405 00:46:05,125 --> 00:46:06,416 occasional triple a game. 1406 00:46:07,041 --> 00:46:09,625 And, uh, I do like running my triple a 1407 00:46:09,625 --> 00:46:10,291 games at high 1408 00:46:10,291 --> 00:46:13,500 resolutions, high frame rates and 1409 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:14,916 maximum graphical detail. 1410 00:46:15,166 --> 00:46:17,916 Sometimes I'm a PC gamer too. 1411 00:46:17,916 --> 00:46:19,416 Sometimes not in the 1412 00:46:19,416 --> 00:46:20,250 don't get it twisted. 1413 00:46:21,958 --> 00:46:25,041 I did definitely used to be chasing the 1414 00:46:25,041 --> 00:46:29,125 best, uh, fidelity that a game could do. 1415 00:46:29,125 --> 00:46:30,250 I like, okay. 1416 00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:31,958 If half-life three comes out, I 1417 00:46:31,958 --> 00:46:32,625 definitely probably would 1418 00:46:32,625 --> 00:46:34,291 be buying a new system to, 1419 00:46:35,041 --> 00:46:36,083 you know, gardener 1420 00:46:36,083 --> 00:46:37,625 understands buying a headset for that. 1421 00:46:37,625 --> 00:46:39,750 It's crazy for the half-life Alex, but I 1422 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:41,500 might do that just cause there's certain 1423 00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:43,416 games that are so nostalgic that I'd have 1424 00:46:43,416 --> 00:46:45,833 to, but I'm starting to get to the point 1425 00:46:45,833 --> 00:46:46,666 where I'm like, I don't know 1426 00:46:46,666 --> 00:46:48,375 if I care so much about it. 1427 00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:49,708 We were getting to a place where things 1428 00:46:49,708 --> 00:46:52,000 look good enough at medium settings. 1429 00:46:52,833 --> 00:46:53,708 And that might be just 1430 00:46:53,708 --> 00:46:54,791 where I set for awhile. 1431 00:46:55,166 --> 00:46:58,541 If half-life three comes out and it 1432 00:46:58,541 --> 00:46:59,416 doesn't launch with 1433 00:46:59,416 --> 00:47:00,666 Fremont, I'm going to play it 1434 00:47:00,666 --> 00:47:01,666 on my steam deck and 1435 00:47:01,666 --> 00:47:02,500 I'm going to be fine. 1436 00:47:02,958 --> 00:47:03,541 I don't care. 1437 00:47:04,791 --> 00:47:05,958 I bet you that is going to 1438 00:47:05,958 --> 00:47:07,708 look great on the steam deck. 1439 00:47:07,708 --> 00:47:09,833 I bet you it's going to be like doom and 1440 00:47:09,833 --> 00:47:11,166 doom looks amazing on the steam deck. 1441 00:47:11,166 --> 00:47:13,125 It looks so good on the steam deck. 1442 00:47:14,041 --> 00:47:15,458 I've been able to, I've been able to turn 1443 00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:16,500 on ray tracing on a 1444 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:17,458 steam deck and it works. 1445 00:47:17,541 --> 00:47:17,875 Yeah. 1446 00:47:18,416 --> 00:47:20,125 Have you guys tried it on a 4k TV? 1447 00:47:21,333 --> 00:47:22,166 Like from the resolution? 1448 00:47:23,458 --> 00:47:23,916 I have not. 1449 00:47:24,291 --> 00:47:24,750 I haven't needed. 1450 00:47:25,375 --> 00:47:26,666 Have I tried on, will it upscale? 1451 00:47:27,250 --> 00:47:30,375 So, uh, TVs have upscaling too kind of 1452 00:47:30,375 --> 00:47:34,208 built in, which helps, but it looked, I 1453 00:47:34,208 --> 00:47:34,583 can't remember if I 1454 00:47:34,583 --> 00:47:36,083 ran it at 4k on the TV. 1455 00:47:36,083 --> 00:47:36,875 I think I did. 1456 00:47:36,875 --> 00:47:38,041 I have to, I have to go back cause I have 1457 00:47:38,041 --> 00:47:41,708 videos of it, but even if it's not 4k, 1458 00:47:41,708 --> 00:47:43,750 but it upscales, it looked amazing. 1459 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,583 I was shocked. 1460 00:47:44,875 --> 00:47:45,500 I was like, this looks 1461 00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,250 like it, if it was on my PS4. 1462 00:47:47,916 --> 00:47:49,416 Like maybe even better. 1463 00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:51,958 I was so amazed by that game. 1464 00:47:52,666 --> 00:47:53,375 I sorry. 1465 00:47:53,375 --> 00:47:55,875 It's just like, I will simp for that game 1466 00:47:55,875 --> 00:47:57,375 every day with how well 1467 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,083 they balance the performance. 1468 00:47:59,416 --> 00:47:59,875 Oh yeah. 1469 00:48:01,291 --> 00:48:01,500 Yeah. 1470 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,333 It's a shame that no other developers do. 1471 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:06,625 So speaking of, uh, valve and frame, 1472 00:48:06,625 --> 00:48:08,291 watch, do you think we'll see, do you 1473 00:48:08,291 --> 00:48:08,791 think we'll see the 1474 00:48:08,791 --> 00:48:10,791 Deckard or the frame at CES? 1475 00:48:12,916 --> 00:48:13,166 No. 1476 00:48:15,083 --> 00:48:16,250 Um, either. 1477 00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:16,416 No. 1478 00:48:17,375 --> 00:48:19,375 Maybe Deckard, but I doubt it. 1479 00:48:19,375 --> 00:48:22,833 Honestly, like, I doubt it. 1480 00:48:22,875 --> 00:48:24,791 The decker can't come soon enough. 1481 00:48:26,041 --> 00:48:27,833 Does valve even really do 1482 00:48:27,833 --> 00:48:29,208 anything at these shows? 1483 00:48:29,208 --> 00:48:29,708 I don't know if I've 1484 00:48:29,708 --> 00:48:31,208 ever seen them at CES. 1485 00:48:31,833 --> 00:48:33,291 I don't think they've been in CES. 1486 00:48:33,291 --> 00:48:34,500 I don't think they've been either, but 1487 00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:35,583 yeah, time to change it. 1488 00:48:35,583 --> 00:48:36,833 It's not like, it's not like they have 1489 00:48:36,833 --> 00:48:37,833 their own booth, right? 1490 00:48:37,833 --> 00:48:39,500 They're going to be there with Lenovo and 1491 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,041 it's just going to be like one rep. 1492 00:48:41,666 --> 00:48:42,791 As far as I understand it. 1493 00:48:42,791 --> 00:48:43,666 Do we know that they're not 1494 00:48:43,666 --> 00:48:44,416 going to have the wrong booth? 1495 00:48:45,083 --> 00:48:46,500 I don't know that, but I haven't heard 1496 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:47,250 that they're going to 1497 00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:48,000 have their own booth. 1498 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,375 We would probably, yeah, you're right. 1499 00:48:49,375 --> 00:48:51,208 Like, I think we would, if we, if they 1500 00:48:51,208 --> 00:48:52,708 had their own booth and we knew it, 1501 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,083 that'd be a massive story. 1502 00:48:55,541 --> 00:48:55,750 Yeah. 1503 00:48:56,833 --> 00:48:58,166 I would think they were gearing up for 1504 00:48:58,166 --> 00:48:59,458 something huge if they had their own 1505 00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:01,000 booth, but I just don't see it. 1506 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,791 But I bet they could do it. 1507 00:49:02,791 --> 00:49:03,458 They could have done it in 1508 00:49:03,458 --> 00:49:05,333 secret and no one could have. 1509 00:49:05,958 --> 00:49:06,166 Yeah. 1510 00:49:06,666 --> 00:49:07,458 I think it would have been leaked. 1511 00:49:08,375 --> 00:49:10,333 I think, well, they could always, uh, 1512 00:49:11,375 --> 00:49:12,500 Lenovo comes out and 1513 00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:13,375 then they just like still 1514 00:49:13,458 --> 00:49:14,541 the show at Lenovo's booth. 1515 00:49:14,750 --> 00:49:15,208 That'd be fun. 1516 00:49:15,416 --> 00:49:17,416 One kind of do the Lenovo comes out and 1517 00:49:17,416 --> 00:49:20,125 then, and then like the walls fall 1518 00:49:20,125 --> 00:49:22,125 backwards and then valves 1519 00:49:22,125 --> 00:49:23,791 logo rises from the floor. 1520 00:49:23,791 --> 00:49:24,458 And it's like, this is 1521 00:49:24,458 --> 00:49:26,666 actually the valve booth to be fair. 1522 00:49:26,916 --> 00:49:29,291 That'd be such good. 1523 00:49:29,708 --> 00:49:29,916 Lenovo, 1524 00:49:30,958 --> 00:49:31,833 valve eyes. 1525 00:49:32,041 --> 00:49:32,250 Lenovo. 1526 00:49:32,875 --> 00:49:33,416 Oh my God. 1527 00:49:33,791 --> 00:49:34,000 Yeah. 1528 00:49:34,625 --> 00:49:35,750 See, that's the type of 1529 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:37,000 stuff I want nowadays. 1530 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,708 I, we need stuff like that to 1531 00:49:38,708 --> 00:49:39,833 make things more interesting. 1532 00:49:40,625 --> 00:49:42,041 Companies actually just having fun again. 1533 00:49:42,458 --> 00:49:44,333 Well, that's like what valve did with 1534 00:49:44,333 --> 00:49:45,958 their game development 1535 00:49:45,958 --> 00:49:47,833 for a long stretch of time. 1536 00:49:47,833 --> 00:49:49,958 Like they acquired mod developers and 1537 00:49:49,958 --> 00:49:51,833 they acquired like, I mean, you, you 1538 00:49:51,833 --> 00:49:53,333 mentioned an Arbacular drop, which was 1539 00:49:53,333 --> 00:49:55,458 like portals, original thing. 1540 00:49:55,458 --> 00:49:56,000 That's right. 1541 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,416 Yeah. 1542 00:49:56,416 --> 00:49:59,375 Uh, like the tech demo, they valve went 1543 00:49:59,375 --> 00:50:02,250 to that college and saw the tech demo and 1544 00:50:02,250 --> 00:50:04,750 they were like, want a job and gave all 1545 00:50:04,750 --> 00:50:05,750 of their team that 1546 00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:07,000 made an Arbacular drop. 1547 00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:09,125 And it's like, dude, that's 1548 00:50:09,125 --> 00:50:10,166 how valve used to operate. 1549 00:50:11,416 --> 00:50:12,625 They actually, they 1550 00:50:12,625 --> 00:50:13,875 still do operate like that. 1551 00:50:13,875 --> 00:50:15,625 They just don't do it as much or we don't 1552 00:50:15,625 --> 00:50:16,958 hear about it as much too. 1553 00:50:16,958 --> 00:50:19,208 You know, they brought Campo Santo and 1554 00:50:19,208 --> 00:50:21,833 that was, they also hired the guys that 1555 00:50:21,833 --> 00:50:23,791 made Risk of Rain, um, Hopu or whatever. 1556 00:50:24,333 --> 00:50:24,541 Right. 1557 00:50:24,916 --> 00:50:25,125 Yep. 1558 00:50:25,875 --> 00:50:26,750 Uh, Firewatch or 1559 00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:27,833 whatever that one's called. 1560 00:50:28,041 --> 00:50:28,750 Campo Santo. 1561 00:50:29,041 --> 00:50:29,250 Yeah. 1562 00:50:30,541 --> 00:50:32,500 And I believe they made Half Life Alex. 1563 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:32,916 Do they not? 1564 00:50:33,166 --> 00:50:33,708 They did. 1565 00:50:33,708 --> 00:50:33,916 Yeah. 1566 00:50:34,583 --> 00:50:34,916 Yeah. 1567 00:50:37,041 --> 00:50:37,333 Yeah. 1568 00:50:37,583 --> 00:50:37,791 Yeah. 1569 00:50:38,208 --> 00:50:38,541 Yep. 1570 00:50:38,541 --> 00:50:39,333 So they could buy Lenovo. 1571 00:50:39,708 --> 00:50:40,083 That'd be cool. 1572 00:50:40,791 --> 00:50:42,041 That would honestly. 1573 00:50:42,625 --> 00:50:44,000 Vow branded laptop ThinkPads. 1574 00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:45,541 Oh my God. 1575 00:50:46,291 --> 00:50:46,833 That's right. 1576 00:50:46,833 --> 00:50:47,458 They bought, they have, 1577 00:50:47,666 --> 00:50:48,750 oh gosh, I don't know. 1578 00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:50,416 They have, I think they know, I think 1579 00:50:50,416 --> 00:50:51,916 they would also own IBM too. 1580 00:50:51,916 --> 00:50:52,750 Cause, uh, don't they, 1581 00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:54,250 doesn't Lenovo own IBM now? 1582 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,125 They own the ThinkPad series. 1583 00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:58,583 So IBM, I think, uh, Jettison, some of 1584 00:50:58,583 --> 00:51:00,916 their IP, uh, some of their branding. 1585 00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:01,541 Yeah. 1586 00:51:01,875 --> 00:51:02,458 Lenovo bought it up. 1587 00:51:02,708 --> 00:51:04,333 What does, what does 1588 00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:05,541 IBM even do these days? 1589 00:51:05,791 --> 00:51:06,416 Just like super 1590 00:51:06,416 --> 00:51:09,875 computers with AI in them? 1591 00:51:10,375 --> 00:51:10,583 Yes. 1592 00:51:10,666 --> 00:51:12,500 They make a, they 1593 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:13,791 build Jeopardy contestants. 1594 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:15,208 God business. 1595 00:51:15,625 --> 00:51:16,041 Damn it. 1596 00:51:16,458 --> 00:51:17,541 Oh my gosh. 1597 00:51:17,916 --> 00:51:18,250 That's funny. 1598 00:51:19,791 --> 00:51:22,833 So, uh, can we, can we do it? 1599 00:51:22,833 --> 00:51:24,083 Can we finally get into this? 1600 00:51:24,083 --> 00:51:24,500 Can we, yes. 1601 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,750 Half Life is hashtag valve 1602 00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:30,458 hashtag half life hashtag G man. 1603 00:51:30,458 --> 00:51:32,833 Hashtag 20, 25. 1604 00:51:33,833 --> 00:51:36,583 Our good friend, the voice actor for the 1605 00:51:36,583 --> 00:51:38,291 G man, Mike Shapiro or 1606 00:51:38,333 --> 00:51:40,375 Shapiro, actually, um, uh, 1607 00:51:40,375 --> 00:51:42,125 posted a mysterious video. 1608 00:51:42,583 --> 00:51:43,958 It's a 30 second video. 1609 00:51:43,958 --> 00:51:47,500 I was talking about a new year and I 1610 00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:50,583 don't know what the background is, but he 1611 00:51:50,583 --> 00:51:51,166 hasn't posted 1612 00:51:51,166 --> 00:51:52,666 anything in like five years. 1613 00:51:52,916 --> 00:51:53,375 Yeah. 1614 00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:56,416 And the half, it's a painting. 1615 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,208 Yeah. 1616 00:51:57,583 --> 00:51:59,666 We don't know what's going on though. 1617 00:51:59,666 --> 00:52:00,875 And basically, well, there's a painting 1618 00:52:00,875 --> 00:52:02,916 and then there's a rumors of, I think 1619 00:52:02,958 --> 00:52:06,166 the orange in it is a color that is how, 1620 00:52:06,416 --> 00:52:08,333 like it's some, we go to conspiracy 1621 00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:11,166 theories, man, they confirmed half life 1622 00:52:11,166 --> 00:52:13,125 three through the color palette on it. 1623 00:52:13,458 --> 00:52:15,833 You know, people they'll, they'll find 1624 00:52:15,833 --> 00:52:18,666 fun stuff, but so I posted a video about 1625 00:52:18,708 --> 00:52:20,916 this and I mentioned that I didn't know 1626 00:52:20,916 --> 00:52:23,166 what that, that painting was. 1627 00:52:23,166 --> 00:52:24,291 Do you know what the painting is? 1628 00:52:26,458 --> 00:52:28,041 I've read about it multiple times and I 1629 00:52:28,041 --> 00:52:28,583 still don't fully 1630 00:52:28,583 --> 00:52:29,875 like remember what it is. 1631 00:52:30,208 --> 00:52:32,416 So Mike Shapiro is 1632 00:52:32,416 --> 00:52:34,458 actually a musician as well. 1633 00:52:34,791 --> 00:52:38,083 And so the painting in this video is the 1634 00:52:38,083 --> 00:52:40,000 album art of his most recent album. 1635 00:52:40,208 --> 00:52:41,041 That's what it is. 1636 00:52:41,041 --> 00:52:41,250 Yeah. 1637 00:52:41,416 --> 00:52:45,333 Oh, which doesn't seem valve related, but 1638 00:52:45,333 --> 00:52:47,958 the fact that he's using, he's draw, he 1639 00:52:48,041 --> 00:52:49,583 starts off sounding kind of like Barney 1640 00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:52,666 and then he kind of goes into being the 1641 00:52:52,666 --> 00:52:56,333 G man and boy, I want to 1642 00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:57,708 know your take on this James. 1643 00:52:57,750 --> 00:53:00,666 Cause I'm this got me so excited. 1644 00:53:00,666 --> 00:53:02,500 My, my Spidey sense was tingling. 1645 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:06,500 As always, uh, I, you were, you even had 1646 00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:09,000 more like copium than me, like, like 1647 00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:10,583 during the game awards. 1648 00:53:10,875 --> 00:53:11,083 Yeah. 1649 00:53:11,833 --> 00:53:16,583 For me, I think half life, I think a half 1650 00:53:16,583 --> 00:53:18,500 life games come in this year, whether or 1651 00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:21,083 not it's half life three, or if it's like 1652 00:53:21,083 --> 00:53:22,666 a half life game to support maybe the 1653 00:53:22,708 --> 00:53:24,333 decker or maybe some other project that 1654 00:53:24,333 --> 00:53:25,750 they're releasing, because they they'll 1655 00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:26,416 do that obviously 1656 00:53:26,416 --> 00:53:27,333 wake with the steam deck. 1657 00:53:27,333 --> 00:53:30,083 They did a portal ask game. 1658 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,416 They could be doing that too with this 1659 00:53:32,416 --> 00:53:34,041 once again, I don't care. 1660 00:53:34,375 --> 00:53:36,500 And if he's getting involved, G man's 1661 00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:38,166 coming back means we're probably going to 1662 00:53:38,166 --> 00:53:39,750 be getting, you know, a full, some type 1663 00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:40,708 of full fledged half 1664 00:53:40,708 --> 00:53:42,416 life game, whether it's 1665 00:53:42,416 --> 00:53:44,041 announced this year or comes out this 1666 00:53:44,041 --> 00:53:44,750 year, I would be 1667 00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:46,083 shocked if it didn't come out 1668 00:53:46,083 --> 00:53:49,583 this year though, um, with how valve has 1669 00:53:49,583 --> 00:53:50,333 been doing things lately. 1670 00:53:51,041 --> 00:53:56,083 So my hope is like, my, my, my extreme 1671 00:53:56,083 --> 00:53:57,416 hope is that this is halfway three 1672 00:53:57,416 --> 00:53:59,333 confirmed I've said this multiple times 1673 00:53:59,333 --> 00:53:59,958 over the years though. 1674 00:53:59,958 --> 00:54:04,500 So it seems so like dead to me to say it, 1675 00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:06,291 but I can't have my three confirmed, but 1676 00:54:06,833 --> 00:54:07,625 they could also do half 1677 00:54:07,625 --> 00:54:09,041 life for do some other. 1678 00:54:09,666 --> 00:54:10,916 All I know is we're going to be getting 1679 00:54:10,916 --> 00:54:12,166 another iteration in the series. 1680 00:54:12,416 --> 00:54:13,333 That's what I'm hoping for. 1681 00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:15,166 I really do think this, and I think we 1682 00:54:15,166 --> 00:54:16,208 have a lot of leaks because there's 1683 00:54:16,208 --> 00:54:16,916 another leak. 1684 00:54:16,916 --> 00:54:18,166 I don't know if you guys saw it. 1685 00:54:18,458 --> 00:54:19,458 No, we didn't. 1686 00:54:19,833 --> 00:54:20,708 I didn't. 1687 00:54:20,708 --> 00:54:24,500 Is it Gabe, Gabe follower mentioned that 1688 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:26,625 half life, a half life game is in play 1689 00:54:26,625 --> 00:54:28,166 test with friends and family. 1690 00:54:28,625 --> 00:54:29,666 It's an active play 1691 00:54:29,666 --> 00:54:30,875 testing is what they call it. 1692 00:54:31,666 --> 00:54:33,583 The last stage of 1693 00:54:33,583 --> 00:54:35,291 development for a valve game. 1694 00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:41,333 But this, when, when a half life, Alex 1695 00:54:41,333 --> 00:54:43,875 went into active play testing, they ended 1696 00:54:43,875 --> 00:54:46,166 up scrapping the entire story and 1697 00:54:46,166 --> 00:54:49,625 rewriting it, um, using the, all of the 1698 00:54:49,708 --> 00:54:50,791 levels and assets they 1699 00:54:50,791 --> 00:54:51,583 had, that they had built. 1700 00:54:52,166 --> 00:54:53,791 And it took them another year and a half 1701 00:54:53,791 --> 00:54:56,458 from active play test to final release. 1702 00:54:57,333 --> 00:55:01,041 So I am very, I, I, I would be James. 1703 00:55:01,041 --> 00:55:02,541 I want this to be a thing 1704 00:55:02,541 --> 00:55:04,125 and I want it to be this year. 1705 00:55:04,666 --> 00:55:06,291 If it is this year, it's 1706 00:55:06,291 --> 00:55:08,291 going to be like late, I think. 1707 00:55:08,708 --> 00:55:09,875 And I don't think we're going to hear 1708 00:55:09,875 --> 00:55:11,958 anything official until summer. 1709 00:55:12,125 --> 00:55:14,125 At least that's, that's where 1710 00:55:14,125 --> 00:55:15,791 my head's at on this summer. 1711 00:55:15,791 --> 00:55:19,375 Could be doubt it. 1712 00:55:19,375 --> 00:55:21,500 I don't valve announces 1713 00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:23,416 games now with a tweet. 1714 00:55:24,041 --> 00:55:25,083 They don't, they like, 1715 00:55:25,083 --> 00:55:26,375 they'll, they'll release a trailer. 1716 00:55:26,375 --> 00:55:27,208 They'll just drop a trailer. 1717 00:55:27,208 --> 00:55:28,041 They don't do like the 1718 00:55:28,041 --> 00:55:30,000 events like half life. 1719 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,333 Alex, I mean, I think 1720 00:55:31,333 --> 00:55:32,625 when, uh, what was it? 1721 00:55:32,625 --> 00:55:34,458 What's the, the, the card game, the DOTA 1722 00:55:34,458 --> 00:55:37,791 card game when that, uh, was released 1723 00:55:37,958 --> 00:55:40,125 on stage and the reaction was so 1724 00:55:40,125 --> 00:55:41,666 overwhelmingly negative 1725 00:55:41,666 --> 00:55:43,625 valve kind of swore that off. 1726 00:55:43,875 --> 00:55:44,208 Yeah. 1727 00:55:44,875 --> 00:55:45,208 Okay. 1728 00:55:45,208 --> 00:55:46,916 But to be fair though, that 1729 00:55:46,916 --> 00:55:49,000 was a, no one wanted a card game. 1730 00:55:49,208 --> 00:55:50,625 If it was half life three, I think that 1731 00:55:50,625 --> 00:55:51,083 people would have 1732 00:55:51,083 --> 00:55:53,208 erupted in, uh, tears of joy. 1733 00:55:53,958 --> 00:55:54,166 Yeah. 1734 00:55:54,708 --> 00:55:56,500 I think that's part of the problem was 1735 00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:58,333 that they came out with something that 1736 00:55:58,666 --> 00:55:59,583 everyone wants more 1737 00:55:59,583 --> 00:56:01,375 portal, more half life. 1738 00:56:01,708 --> 00:56:03,083 They'll even take more left for dead. 1739 00:56:03,708 --> 00:56:05,458 Um, and new, and new IPs are fine too. 1740 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:07,458 But even for me, like Dota, every time I 1741 00:56:07,458 --> 00:56:08,333 hear valve mentioned 1742 00:56:08,333 --> 00:56:09,500 Dota, I get disappointed. 1743 00:56:10,333 --> 00:56:11,916 I am not a Dota fan. 1744 00:56:12,541 --> 00:56:14,750 Uh, Dota two, like the original Dota was 1745 00:56:14,750 --> 00:56:16,166 fun on with Warcraft 1746 00:56:16,166 --> 00:56:17,500 three, but I actually 1747 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:19,041 preferred League of Legends split off on 1748 00:56:19,041 --> 00:56:20,416 all that and Dota just 1749 00:56:20,416 --> 00:56:21,333 isn't like Dota two is 1750 00:56:21,333 --> 00:56:23,666 not really, I don't really care for it. 1751 00:56:23,666 --> 00:56:24,958 Dota does nothing for me either. 1752 00:56:25,333 --> 00:56:25,708 Yeah. 1753 00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:28,125 So whenever time they, they mentioned 1754 00:56:28,125 --> 00:56:28,750 stuff like that, I 1755 00:56:28,750 --> 00:56:29,666 get super disappointed. 1756 00:56:30,166 --> 00:56:31,791 I understand, but I'm just 1757 00:56:31,791 --> 00:56:33,791 like, this is not my jam. 1758 00:56:34,041 --> 00:56:35,000 I want something else. 1759 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:37,375 You can't bad mouth Gabe's baby. 1760 00:56:37,375 --> 00:56:38,583 That's his most played game. 1761 00:56:39,333 --> 00:56:39,541 Yeah. 1762 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,166 That can be the most he's going to, uh, 1763 00:56:43,291 --> 00:56:44,583 he's going to, uh, he's 1764 00:56:44,583 --> 00:56:45,750 going to curse your, you 1765 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:46,500 and your household 1766 00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:47,416 and your steam account. 1767 00:56:49,041 --> 00:56:50,000 Well, I mean, I'm not 1768 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,833 saying it's a bad game. 1769 00:56:50,833 --> 00:56:52,041 I don't care for it. 1770 00:56:52,708 --> 00:56:54,666 And I'm glad that like people love it 1771 00:56:54,666 --> 00:56:56,000 because the people do love it. 1772 00:56:56,166 --> 00:56:58,333 Um, I just, it's like, I got too much 1773 00:56:58,333 --> 00:56:59,083 into League of Legends 1774 00:56:59,083 --> 00:57:00,000 and that's kind of like, 1775 00:57:00,250 --> 00:57:01,125 if I play those types of 1776 00:57:01,125 --> 00:57:01,916 games, it's League of Legends. 1777 00:57:02,791 --> 00:57:08,500 Um, but yeah, I don't know. 1778 00:57:09,041 --> 00:57:11,291 Like it gets, it's still disappointing. 1779 00:57:11,291 --> 00:57:13,666 And I, I know that like Gabe likes the 1780 00:57:13,666 --> 00:57:17,375 other, uh, IPs, but 1781 00:57:17,375 --> 00:57:19,166 the problem lies with, I 1782 00:57:19,166 --> 00:57:20,750 know the lot of them are worried that 1783 00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:24,000 like Dota does well and it has a good 1784 00:57:24,041 --> 00:57:27,041 reputation for them, but it's not like 1785 00:57:27,041 --> 00:57:28,083 half-life status 1786 00:57:28,083 --> 00:57:30,166 reputation is not the same 1787 00:57:30,208 --> 00:57:31,000 thing, right? 1788 00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:35,083 Half-life and portal have just like the, 1789 00:57:35,083 --> 00:57:37,458 and especially half-life Alex somehow 1790 00:57:37,541 --> 00:57:40,125 raised the bar even again, like, which is 1791 00:57:40,125 --> 00:57:41,041 the title of the 1792 00:57:41,041 --> 00:57:42,000 book, you know, raise the 1793 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,875 bar, like it's rate. 1794 00:57:43,875 --> 00:57:45,333 Like they raised the bar every time they 1795 00:57:45,333 --> 00:57:46,958 released a new single player game. 1796 00:57:46,958 --> 00:57:48,250 And that's can be very daunting. 1797 00:57:48,833 --> 00:57:51,291 And I couldn't imagine how many 1798 00:57:51,291 --> 00:57:53,000 anti-anxiety like meds 1799 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:53,791 they have to be taking 1800 00:57:54,041 --> 00:57:56,583 to make a game like half-life three. 1801 00:57:57,666 --> 00:57:59,291 So I have two questions. 1802 00:58:00,375 --> 00:58:03,125 Number one, do you really think that it 1803 00:58:03,125 --> 00:58:05,958 will be, uh, if half-life three releases, 1804 00:58:05,958 --> 00:58:07,000 it'll be a VR game? 1805 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:09,166 Like if it's like for Deckard, do you 1806 00:58:09,166 --> 00:58:10,208 think that would be a thing? 1807 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:11,250 Yeah. 1808 00:58:12,500 --> 00:58:15,125 Sorry, go for high tech. 1809 00:58:16,041 --> 00:58:19,708 I think it could be VR optional. 1810 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,541 Like you can play the game in VR. 1811 00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:24,875 Uh, I don't know. 1812 00:58:24,875 --> 00:58:28,791 I, I honestly, we don't know. 1813 00:58:28,916 --> 00:58:30,166 Like half-life Alex 1814 00:58:30,166 --> 00:58:31,208 could be its own series. 1815 00:58:31,208 --> 00:58:32,291 That's just VR related. 1816 00:58:32,291 --> 00:58:34,041 So half-life Alex two could be coming out 1817 00:58:34,041 --> 00:58:36,500 that has a specific to VR. 1818 00:58:37,250 --> 00:58:38,583 I could see them go on that route and 1819 00:58:38,583 --> 00:58:40,916 then sticking with half-life being maybe 1820 00:58:41,291 --> 00:58:42,333 a handheld first. 1821 00:58:42,541 --> 00:58:45,125 Honestly, I could see it being, um, 1822 00:58:45,458 --> 00:58:47,750 flagships with like, with their, um, 1823 00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:51,583 hardware, so it's going to be designed to 1824 00:58:51,583 --> 00:58:53,166 work with maybe the steam deck or the 1825 00:58:53,166 --> 00:58:54,041 steam controller to 1826 00:58:54,041 --> 00:58:56,000 really well and the steam deck. 1827 00:58:57,375 --> 00:58:59,958 That's one thing I could probably, I bet 1828 00:58:59,958 --> 00:59:03,416 all my money on is that half-life will 1829 00:59:03,416 --> 00:59:06,666 work really well on some 1830 00:59:06,666 --> 00:59:08,666 type of valve hardware. 1831 00:59:09,291 --> 00:59:09,500 Yeah. 1832 00:59:09,708 --> 00:59:10,291 And that's probably 1833 00:59:10,291 --> 00:59:10,875 what they're targeting. 1834 00:59:11,208 --> 00:59:14,541 And there's some cool physics things that 1835 00:59:14,541 --> 00:59:15,958 they could probably be doing too with the 1836 00:59:15,958 --> 00:59:16,333 gyro. 1837 00:59:16,541 --> 00:59:17,791 I wouldn't be surprised if they're also 1838 00:59:17,791 --> 00:59:19,291 requiring that with their handheld, like 1839 00:59:19,291 --> 00:59:20,333 with the controllers, third party 1840 00:59:20,333 --> 00:59:21,291 controllers and stuff like that. 1841 00:59:21,833 --> 00:59:23,375 I could see them playing off that 1842 00:59:23,375 --> 00:59:24,750 because, um, strong 1843 00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:25,791 rumors are that they have 1844 00:59:26,041 --> 00:59:28,791 some pretty advanced physics 1845 00:59:28,791 --> 00:59:30,708 that they've been working on. 1846 00:59:30,958 --> 00:59:33,166 And I we've, we've heard of swarming and 1847 00:59:33,166 --> 00:59:34,916 stuff like that in half-life threes 1848 00:59:35,375 --> 00:59:36,833 previous before half-life Alex. 1849 00:59:36,833 --> 00:59:38,375 They never used any of that swarming, but 1850 00:59:38,375 --> 00:59:39,708 they're swarming tech that you can look 1851 00:59:40,041 --> 00:59:41,583 at, um, a great channel to 1852 00:59:41,583 --> 00:59:43,166 follow is, uh, Tyler McVicker. 1853 00:59:43,625 --> 00:59:45,291 He does a ton of deep 1854 00:59:45,291 --> 00:59:46,500 diving into code and all that. 1855 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:50,291 Um, and there was a swarming mechanic at 1856 00:59:50,291 --> 00:59:52,458 one point, which sounds like it was very 1857 00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:54,541 physics heavy and I don't know why they 1858 00:59:54,541 --> 00:59:55,250 didn't continue that. 1859 00:59:55,458 --> 00:59:56,250 There must've been some type of 1860 00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:57,375 limitation and I have a 1861 00:59:57,375 --> 00:59:58,583 feeling that they might've 1862 00:59:59,166 --> 01:00:00,416 overcome that by now. 1863 01:00:01,333 --> 01:00:01,541 Yeah. 1864 01:00:02,875 --> 01:00:04,416 The other question is, do you think we'll 1865 01:00:04,416 --> 01:00:06,666 see half-life three before we see an 1866 01:00:06,666 --> 01:00:07,916 official deadlock release? 1867 01:00:10,541 --> 01:00:10,833 No. 1868 01:00:12,458 --> 01:00:14,375 Yeah, I don't know if half-life or I 1869 01:00:14,375 --> 01:00:16,000 don't know if deadlock will officially 1870 01:00:16,208 --> 01:00:18,500 release in a official manner. 1871 01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:19,083 I think it's going to 1872 01:00:19,083 --> 01:00:20,125 probably be a slow rollout. 1873 01:00:20,791 --> 01:00:21,000 Okay. 1874 01:00:21,875 --> 01:00:23,125 Um, but I don't know. 1875 01:00:23,125 --> 01:00:23,500 I could be wrong. 1876 01:00:23,541 --> 01:00:25,750 Like it is definitely very like early 1877 01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:27,250 days of deadlock, even though it plays 1878 01:00:27,291 --> 01:00:29,500 really well, like they're, they, like a 1879 01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:30,416 couple of months ago, they didn't even 1880 01:00:30,458 --> 01:00:32,750 have assets, like true assets for some of 1881 01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:34,458 their icons and stuff like that. 1882 01:00:35,541 --> 01:00:37,750 I don't, I have a feeling it's two 1883 01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:39,416 different teams and then I don't know. 1884 01:00:41,041 --> 01:00:41,750 Deadlock is probably 1885 01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:42,708 going to be one of those. 1886 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,500 It could take years before they feel 1887 01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:46,083 comfortable releasing it. 1888 01:00:46,375 --> 01:00:46,541 Hmm. 1889 01:00:47,041 --> 01:00:47,250 Okay. 1890 01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:51,666 So that's my take on it. 1891 01:00:52,708 --> 01:00:53,166 I don't know. 1892 01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:57,208 Oh, they can, they can 1893 01:00:57,208 --> 01:00:58,708 release it as like an internal beta. 1894 01:00:58,708 --> 01:01:00,250 They, that is an option. 1895 01:01:02,583 --> 01:01:03,250 Internal beta. 1896 01:01:03,583 --> 01:01:05,333 What keep an early access forever. 1897 01:01:06,041 --> 01:01:08,166 Of deadlock for deadlock. 1898 01:01:08,166 --> 01:01:08,583 For deadlock. 1899 01:01:08,583 --> 01:01:08,833 Yeah. 1900 01:01:08,833 --> 01:01:09,041 Sorry. 1901 01:01:09,416 --> 01:01:10,500 Is it not open, but, 1902 01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:11,750 uh, is it not open yet? 1903 01:01:12,333 --> 01:01:13,208 Is it not public still 1904 01:01:13,208 --> 01:01:15,458 invite only, but I think of this. 1905 01:01:15,458 --> 01:01:16,166 Oh, is it? 1906 01:01:16,208 --> 01:01:17,375 Yeah, I believe so. 1907 01:01:17,375 --> 01:01:17,541 Yes. 1908 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,708 At this point, I think 1909 01:01:19,708 --> 01:01:20,833 you could find someone. 1910 01:01:21,166 --> 01:01:22,041 It's really sad if you 1911 01:01:22,041 --> 01:01:22,791 couldn't find someone. 1912 01:01:22,875 --> 01:01:24,166 That means you need to maybe find some 1913 01:01:24,166 --> 01:01:26,750 more friends, but yeah. 1914 01:01:26,791 --> 01:01:27,083 Yeah. 1915 01:01:27,083 --> 01:01:30,791 I, I honestly, I want to see what their 1916 01:01:30,791 --> 01:01:31,583 algorithms, I want to 1917 01:01:31,583 --> 01:01:32,250 see the data on that. 1918 01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:33,250 I want to see how it's 1919 01:01:33,250 --> 01:01:35,166 like the bacon thing, right? 1920 01:01:35,166 --> 01:01:37,583 How many, uh, levels are you 1921 01:01:37,583 --> 01:01:39,291 separated from a Kevin bacon? 1922 01:01:39,708 --> 01:01:40,875 I want to know how many levels I am 1923 01:01:40,875 --> 01:01:42,000 separated from Gabe Newell. 1924 01:01:42,291 --> 01:01:44,083 Like he, I want to know if he was the 1925 01:01:44,083 --> 01:01:45,666 main invite, he invited his employees. 1926 01:01:46,166 --> 01:01:47,750 And then Dave, in fact, I want to know 1927 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:49,041 how far away I am from him. 1928 01:01:49,333 --> 01:01:50,125 That's what I want. 1929 01:01:50,125 --> 01:01:51,000 That would be a cool one. 1930 01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:52,708 That's data that I 1931 01:01:52,708 --> 01:01:54,041 guarantee you they have. 1932 01:01:54,458 --> 01:01:56,750 Like they can pull that data for sure. 1933 01:01:57,166 --> 01:01:58,083 So now, yeah, here's a 1934 01:01:58,083 --> 01:01:58,875 fun little hypothetical. 1935 01:01:59,666 --> 01:02:02,833 If valve asked any one of you guys, if 1936 01:02:02,833 --> 01:02:03,666 valve said that they 1937 01:02:03,666 --> 01:02:04,375 were having a special 1938 01:02:04,375 --> 01:02:07,750 event for a new hardware next week, and 1939 01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:10,166 they asked you, and they said that they 1940 01:02:10,208 --> 01:02:13,041 would fund you flying out to their 1941 01:02:13,041 --> 01:02:15,166 headquarters and like hotels and like. 1942 01:02:15,333 --> 01:02:15,791 Whatnot. 1943 01:02:16,666 --> 01:02:17,625 Would you drop everything 1944 01:02:17,625 --> 01:02:19,500 this, this next week to do it? 1945 01:02:19,958 --> 01:02:20,291 Absolutely. 1946 01:02:20,541 --> 01:02:22,875 I hear, okay. 1947 01:02:22,875 --> 01:02:23,500 Here's the thing. 1948 01:02:24,125 --> 01:02:28,416 Of course, of course, even if they didn't 1949 01:02:28,416 --> 01:02:31,083 invite me, I would probably drop 1950 01:02:31,125 --> 01:02:32,500 everything and find a way to get there 1951 01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:33,500 and pay for it myself 1952 01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,541 and figure something out. 1953 01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:36,000 Yeah. 1954 01:02:36,625 --> 01:02:38,916 You can, you can, uh, you can see us. 1955 01:02:39,583 --> 01:02:41,750 If this is CS, if it's Washington, I feel 1956 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:43,833 like, like CS says, I can at least get in 1957 01:02:43,833 --> 01:02:44,500 there and at least talk to 1958 01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:46,125 people that witnessed it. 1959 01:02:46,125 --> 01:02:47,666 If they, if it's close behind closed 1960 01:02:47,666 --> 01:02:48,208 doors, but I can 1961 01:02:48,208 --> 01:02:49,458 still be at the CS event. 1962 01:02:50,458 --> 01:02:52,000 Washington, that's going to be, that's, 1963 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:52,458 that's a whole other 1964 01:02:52,458 --> 01:02:53,333 security issue thing. 1965 01:02:54,458 --> 01:02:56,333 So, uh, I have a 1966 01:02:56,333 --> 01:02:57,625 secret I kept from you guys. 1967 01:02:58,166 --> 01:03:02,291 I got invited to CS on like a most 1968 01:03:02,291 --> 01:03:03,791 expenses paid thing 1969 01:03:03,791 --> 01:03:06,458 and I was going to go, 1970 01:03:06,916 --> 01:03:09,166 but then I got sick and I didn't know 1971 01:03:09,166 --> 01:03:10,000 when I was going to recover. 1972 01:03:10,291 --> 01:03:12,125 So I decided not to go. 1973 01:03:12,291 --> 01:03:15,541 Hey, dude, I really wanted to go too. 1974 01:03:15,625 --> 01:03:18,250 I was so excited and then, and then I 1975 01:03:18,250 --> 01:03:20,083 went to Christmas and 1976 01:03:20,083 --> 01:03:21,375 freaking got sick with 1977 01:03:21,375 --> 01:03:21,916 COVID. 1978 01:03:21,916 --> 01:03:23,125 I was like, God damn. 1979 01:03:23,541 --> 01:03:24,500 Can you disclose who 1980 01:03:24,500 --> 01:03:27,541 like, no, no, I can't. 1981 01:03:27,791 --> 01:03:30,000 Can you be like, Oh, I'm better now. 1982 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:30,583 Can I go now? 1983 01:03:31,416 --> 01:03:32,416 I sent an email. 1984 01:03:33,041 --> 01:03:35,500 I will see if I can actually go, but I 1985 01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:37,208 don't, I think it's too awesome. 1986 01:03:37,458 --> 01:03:41,583 If God, I had to pay for my hotel and 1987 01:03:41,583 --> 01:03:44,500 because I didn't buy the hotel. 1988 01:03:44,625 --> 01:03:45,416 Cause I got sick. 1989 01:03:45,416 --> 01:03:47,166 Like when I was going to buy it, the 1990 01:03:47,166 --> 01:03:48,541 prices are a lot higher now. 1991 01:03:48,541 --> 01:03:49,250 So I don't know if I'll 1992 01:03:49,250 --> 01:03:50,083 be able to do it anyway. 1993 01:03:50,083 --> 01:03:51,541 They're a lot higher, but if you don't 1994 01:03:51,541 --> 01:03:53,000 mind walking, you can 1995 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,958 get or, uh, take an Uber. 1996 01:03:54,958 --> 01:03:57,541 You can just stay further away and just, 1997 01:03:57,541 --> 01:03:58,916 I wouldn't do Airbnb. 1998 01:03:59,541 --> 01:04:02,458 I do, I do, uh, 20 1999 01:04:02,458 --> 01:04:03,666 minutes away from the event. 2000 01:04:03,875 --> 01:04:06,375 Probably maybe 30 and Uber in. 2001 01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:08,416 It's like on like Vegas strip. 2002 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:10,833 I believe it is. 2003 01:04:10,833 --> 01:04:11,000 Yeah. 2004 01:04:11,500 --> 01:04:13,125 Um, there's a couple of events. 2005 01:04:13,375 --> 01:04:15,708 It is across a whole 2006 01:04:15,708 --> 01:04:16,666 bunch of different buildings. 2007 01:04:16,958 --> 01:04:18,000 Like, so it's not just 2008 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,291 in one convention center. 2009 01:04:20,250 --> 01:04:22,000 There's a, there's a couple of really big 2010 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,416 convention centers that have connecting 2011 01:04:23,833 --> 01:04:24,875 things I'm trying to remember. 2012 01:04:26,375 --> 01:04:27,250 You could stay in one 2013 01:04:27,250 --> 01:04:28,333 of those casino resorts. 2014 01:04:29,083 --> 01:04:30,458 You know, you don't have to gamble. 2015 01:04:31,125 --> 01:04:33,000 It's optional, but you can. 2016 01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:34,000 Yeah. 2017 01:04:34,708 --> 01:04:35,333 You can try to gamble 2018 01:04:35,333 --> 01:04:36,791 to make up your CS funds. 2019 01:04:37,666 --> 01:04:38,750 Oh my gosh. 2020 01:04:40,250 --> 01:04:42,000 I have really good luck when I'm not 2021 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,791 trying and really, 2022 01:04:43,083 --> 01:04:44,208 really bad luck when I am 2023 01:04:44,208 --> 01:04:44,500 trying. 2024 01:04:44,875 --> 01:04:46,333 So I avoided gambling. 2025 01:04:47,166 --> 01:04:47,416 Oh yeah. 2026 01:04:47,416 --> 01:04:50,083 That's you stay at the state. 2027 01:04:50,375 --> 01:04:51,583 Uh, those, uh, hotels 2028 01:04:51,583 --> 01:04:54,250 have hidden deals too. 2029 01:04:54,250 --> 01:04:56,916 Sometimes you can find that I'm jealous. 2030 01:04:56,916 --> 01:04:59,208 Like, like I said, I, I was this close, 2031 01:04:59,208 --> 01:05:00,208 but I just was like, 2032 01:05:00,208 --> 01:05:01,250 well, what if I go and 2033 01:05:01,250 --> 01:05:01,875 there's nothing really 2034 01:05:01,875 --> 01:05:03,291 that interesting at CES? 2035 01:05:03,791 --> 01:05:05,375 Mm-hmm. 2036 01:05:06,666 --> 01:05:08,583 To be honest, I don't know. 2037 01:05:09,125 --> 01:05:10,875 Well, I've not seen enough for you. 2038 01:05:11,958 --> 01:05:14,791 It is, but like if it's just a Lenovo 2039 01:05:14,791 --> 01:05:18,000 device having steam OS on it. 2040 01:05:19,458 --> 01:05:19,666 Yeah. 2041 01:05:20,458 --> 01:05:22,375 I think that'd be fun, but I don't, it 2042 01:05:22,375 --> 01:05:24,166 wouldn't be worth my two, like $2,000. 2043 01:05:24,416 --> 01:05:26,125 I'd probably end up having to spend on it 2044 01:05:26,125 --> 01:05:29,500 that I can spend, uh, going to Japan. 2045 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:31,541 If Gardner is able to 2046 01:05:31,541 --> 01:05:33,166 go though, would you? 2047 01:05:34,083 --> 01:05:36,291 If Gardner showed up there, I might 2048 01:05:36,291 --> 01:05:38,333 actually go down and visit because I, my 2049 01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:39,458 parents live just two 2050 01:05:39,458 --> 01:05:40,250 hours away from Vegas. 2051 01:05:40,250 --> 01:05:41,666 So I could just go stay there and just go 2052 01:05:41,666 --> 01:05:42,458 down for a day or two. 2053 01:05:42,750 --> 01:05:44,833 Like I thought about doing that. 2054 01:05:45,833 --> 01:05:47,750 I still, I still might, but I don't know. 2055 01:05:48,625 --> 01:05:49,791 It's so close now. 2056 01:05:49,791 --> 01:05:50,833 And then let's see. 2057 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,250 So we know retro game 2058 01:05:52,250 --> 01:05:53,166 core is going to be there. 2059 01:05:53,666 --> 01:05:53,916 Yeah. 2060 01:05:54,500 --> 01:05:56,041 The Fox was going to be there, but 2061 01:05:56,041 --> 01:05:57,916 apparently he couldn't find the time off 2062 01:05:57,958 --> 01:05:59,291 because of his real life 2063 01:05:59,291 --> 01:06:02,458 work as an IT professional. 2064 01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:03,125 I don't actually know 2065 01:06:03,125 --> 01:06:05,458 like what he does besides IT. 2066 01:06:07,041 --> 01:06:07,458 He does. 2067 01:06:08,333 --> 01:06:08,541 Yeah. 2068 01:06:08,541 --> 01:06:10,666 I think he has a pretty cushy IT job. 2069 01:06:11,416 --> 01:06:14,458 Um, I would imagine so, especially since 2070 01:06:14,458 --> 01:06:15,458 you're buying all these PC 2071 01:06:15,541 --> 01:06:17,583 handhelds from like, I a Neo. 2072 01:06:19,958 --> 01:06:22,791 Does, does anyone get I a 2073 01:06:22,791 --> 01:06:24,041 Neo devices sent to them? 2074 01:06:24,666 --> 01:06:25,791 Or is that something that like they don't 2075 01:06:25,791 --> 01:06:27,458 really send those out? 2076 01:06:27,458 --> 01:06:30,000 Uh, fan the deck had a bunch of I need a 2077 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,333 lot of tech tips always gets 2078 01:06:31,416 --> 01:06:32,208 I need devices. 2079 01:06:32,541 --> 01:06:32,958 Yeah. 2080 01:06:33,041 --> 01:06:34,708 Well, they have a deck did it. 2081 01:06:34,708 --> 01:06:36,458 So like a while ago, I think the last one 2082 01:06:36,458 --> 01:06:38,333 they got was the idea couldn't. 2083 01:06:38,625 --> 01:06:41,500 I got an email from them saying, yo, you 2084 01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:42,291 want to review this? 2085 01:06:42,291 --> 01:06:43,125 And I was like, sure. 2086 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:44,625 And then I never heard back. 2087 01:06:44,958 --> 01:06:46,208 Dude, that happens to me every single 2088 01:06:46,208 --> 01:06:48,000 time, especially with one X player. 2089 01:06:48,583 --> 01:06:49,000 Oh yeah. 2090 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:49,291 Oh yeah. 2091 01:06:49,291 --> 01:06:50,666 One X player did that to me too. 2092 01:06:50,666 --> 01:06:50,875 Yeah. 2093 01:06:51,416 --> 01:06:52,541 They did that to me. 2094 01:06:52,541 --> 01:06:53,833 They even like, we've mentioned this 2095 01:06:53,833 --> 01:06:55,541 already, but they even mentioned me in 2096 01:06:55,541 --> 01:06:57,333 like a big marketing email of theirs. 2097 01:06:58,500 --> 01:06:58,750 They're like, 2098 01:06:58,833 --> 01:06:59,583 dude, tell them to review. 2099 01:07:01,541 --> 01:07:03,916 Well, I didn't know that they mentioned 2100 01:07:03,916 --> 01:07:05,416 like my video and they're like, yeah, 2101 01:07:05,416 --> 01:07:07,000 we're going to be sending them a video or 2102 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,291 a device in every gun. 2103 01:07:08,291 --> 01:07:09,791 I'm like, damn it. 2104 01:07:10,125 --> 01:07:10,625 Oh well. 2105 01:07:10,625 --> 01:07:12,458 I didn't push the thing well enough. 2106 01:07:12,458 --> 01:07:15,000 I I'm really bad at pushing to get stuff. 2107 01:07:17,125 --> 01:07:17,250 Yeah. 2108 01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:18,625 So you got to get to it, man. 2109 01:07:19,208 --> 01:07:21,708 I know I need to, because I need to get 2110 01:07:21,708 --> 01:07:23,916 built up to where when valve comes out 2111 01:07:23,916 --> 01:07:25,791 with their next device, I can be on their 2112 01:07:25,791 --> 01:07:27,166 list, even though I'm kind of on their 2113 01:07:27,208 --> 01:07:29,458 list, but if I'm not really showing that 2114 01:07:29,458 --> 01:07:30,833 I'm going to do anything with it, then 2115 01:07:31,083 --> 01:07:32,041 they were not going to send me anything. 2116 01:07:32,666 --> 01:07:32,875 Yeah. 2117 01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:37,458 So hopefully we'll be big enough to get 2118 01:07:37,458 --> 01:07:38,541 the steam deck too early. 2119 01:07:40,291 --> 01:07:41,708 Oh, I definitely think Gardner's going 2120 01:07:41,708 --> 01:07:43,583 to, I think high tech. 2121 01:07:43,833 --> 01:07:45,750 I think as long as you get, um, contact 2122 01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:47,666 him sooner than later, I think you could. 2123 01:07:48,625 --> 01:07:49,041 Yeah. 2124 01:07:49,041 --> 01:07:51,208 I have some, I have some work to do. 2125 01:07:51,625 --> 01:07:51,916 Yeah. 2126 01:07:52,166 --> 01:07:52,333 Yeah. 2127 01:07:52,333 --> 01:07:52,583 Yeah. 2128 01:07:52,916 --> 01:07:54,541 I will need, I will need to push valve 2129 01:07:54,541 --> 01:07:56,791 further, but yes, I have a feeling. 2130 01:07:57,458 --> 01:08:01,291 So speaking of which exclusive, do you, 2131 01:08:01,291 --> 01:08:02,875 do you see yourselves exclusively being 2132 01:08:02,875 --> 01:08:04,750 steam deck creators or DC yourselves 2133 01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:05,833 covering the Nintendo 2134 01:08:05,833 --> 01:08:06,708 switch to or whatever? 2135 01:08:09,041 --> 01:08:10,208 I couldn't care less about 2136 01:08:10,208 --> 01:08:12,333 the Nintendo switch to at all. 2137 01:08:12,583 --> 01:08:13,500 Or the super switch. 2138 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:14,750 I don't think it's going to be 2139 01:08:14,750 --> 01:08:16,500 called the Nintendo switch to. 2140 01:08:17,166 --> 01:08:18,666 Uh, I don't know. 2141 01:08:18,916 --> 01:08:19,125 Anyway. 2142 01:08:19,583 --> 01:08:21,375 So Gardner doesn't like Nintendo. 2143 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:22,208 Yeah. 2144 01:08:22,958 --> 01:08:23,375 No, no, no. 2145 01:08:23,625 --> 01:08:24,958 I love my endo. 2146 01:08:25,333 --> 01:08:26,666 I love Nintendo games. 2147 01:08:27,083 --> 01:08:27,458 Yeah. 2148 01:08:27,458 --> 01:08:28,541 I love Nintendo's games. 2149 01:08:28,750 --> 01:08:30,791 I hate the company and how they are. 2150 01:08:31,083 --> 01:08:31,416 Yep. 2151 01:08:31,708 --> 01:08:32,083 Yeah. 2152 01:08:32,083 --> 01:08:32,375 Yeah. 2153 01:08:32,375 --> 01:08:32,541 Yep. 2154 01:08:33,458 --> 01:08:36,875 Uh, I guarantee y'all, I always say I'm 2155 01:08:36,875 --> 01:08:37,500 like, I don't think 2156 01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:38,750 I'll cover the, the, the 2157 01:08:38,750 --> 01:08:40,125 super switch or whatever it's going to 2158 01:08:40,125 --> 01:08:41,291 be, but I probably 2159 01:08:41,291 --> 01:08:42,458 will end up covering it a 2160 01:08:42,458 --> 01:08:45,750 little bit, but it's not really my jam. 2161 01:08:45,958 --> 01:08:47,250 Even though I have tons of 2162 01:08:47,250 --> 01:08:48,625 switch games, I like the switch. 2163 01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:52,666 I think that the steam deck and all these 2164 01:08:52,666 --> 01:08:53,500 other devices are 2165 01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:54,750 just drastically better. 2166 01:08:55,375 --> 01:08:55,708 Yes. 2167 01:08:56,125 --> 01:08:56,333 Absolutely. 2168 01:08:56,875 --> 01:08:58,708 I don't like the controller. 2169 01:08:59,166 --> 01:09:00,583 In fact, I had to buy a bigger controller 2170 01:09:00,583 --> 01:09:01,500 for this, this switch. 2171 01:09:01,750 --> 01:09:03,291 It was just cramping my hands too much. 2172 01:09:03,833 --> 01:09:06,250 So speaking of exclusives, final fantasy 2173 01:09:06,250 --> 01:09:07,500 seven rebirth, a 2174 01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:09,083 former PS five exclusive. 2175 01:09:09,750 --> 01:09:11,541 They say sales don't disappoint, but they 2176 01:09:11,541 --> 01:09:13,250 can't be exclusive to a single console 2177 01:09:13,291 --> 01:09:15,833 anymore as per Yoshinori Kitase. 2178 01:09:16,333 --> 01:09:18,375 I'm a producer of final 2179 01:09:18,375 --> 01:09:19,250 fantasy seven rebirth. 2180 01:09:19,916 --> 01:09:21,333 They did an interview with IG in Brazil 2181 01:09:21,333 --> 01:09:22,541 and that's what the quote says. 2182 01:09:23,291 --> 01:09:25,416 So modern games cannot 2183 01:09:25,416 --> 01:09:26,500 be exclusive anymore. 2184 01:09:26,500 --> 01:09:30,083 They say the question now is, Oh yeah. 2185 01:09:30,083 --> 01:09:32,083 And as, as we know, P the PC ports come 2186 01:09:32,083 --> 01:09:33,333 out later this month on steam. 2187 01:09:33,875 --> 01:09:35,375 It's not an epic exclusive this time. 2188 01:09:35,375 --> 01:09:36,125 I'm like the last one. 2189 01:09:36,125 --> 01:09:37,833 If you guys remember that. 2190 01:09:39,083 --> 01:09:42,750 So the big question now is, will they 2191 01:09:42,750 --> 01:09:45,500 release rebirth or remake on X-Box? 2192 01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:48,125 Cause we don't have any word on that. 2193 01:09:50,291 --> 01:09:51,708 They, these are times exclusive. 2194 01:09:51,875 --> 01:09:53,875 So they're going to eventually release 2195 01:09:53,875 --> 01:09:54,833 them on everything they can. 2196 01:09:55,041 --> 01:09:57,250 There's no point in not unless you're a 2197 01:09:57,250 --> 01:10:00,166 first party or third party owned, like 2198 01:10:00,166 --> 01:10:03,208 essentially, uh, like Sony owns a lot of 2199 01:10:03,208 --> 01:10:05,791 third party, at least exclusivities. 2200 01:10:06,458 --> 01:10:07,041 Like bloodborne. 2201 01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:09,125 I believe if there's another bloodborne, 2202 01:10:09,125 --> 01:10:10,625 I think it has, I believe it would have 2203 01:10:10,625 --> 01:10:11,416 to be on the PlayStation. 2204 01:10:12,416 --> 01:10:14,291 Um, even, even though 2205 01:10:14,291 --> 01:10:15,583 Elden ring is on other devices. 2206 01:10:16,166 --> 01:10:20,708 And so I like, this is a 2207 01:10:20,708 --> 01:10:21,750 silly, kind of a silly statement. 2208 01:10:21,875 --> 01:10:25,000 I think you can still have exclusives on, 2209 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,666 on hardware and stuff like that. 2210 01:10:27,041 --> 01:10:28,125 It just depends on how good your 2211 01:10:28,125 --> 01:10:29,541 exclusivity contract is. 2212 01:10:29,541 --> 01:10:30,833 And if it doesn't make up for all the 2213 01:10:30,833 --> 01:10:31,458 purchases that would have 2214 01:10:31,458 --> 01:10:33,000 been made on the other device. 2215 01:10:33,625 --> 01:10:35,541 And is it even worth for these? 2216 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,791 I just, I don't think it's worth it for 2217 01:10:38,791 --> 01:10:39,666 companies to do this anymore. 2218 01:10:39,666 --> 01:10:40,291 I think they could 2219 01:10:40,291 --> 01:10:41,583 still be done and it's fine. 2220 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,125 It's just not worth it. 2221 01:10:43,666 --> 01:10:45,333 It doesn't make sense for third party 2222 01:10:45,333 --> 01:10:48,208 developers to make exclusive titles. 2223 01:10:48,458 --> 01:10:49,625 It just doesn't make any sense. 2224 01:10:49,833 --> 01:10:52,750 The only reason that exclusives makes any 2225 01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:55,791 sense is if it's a first party exclusive 2226 01:10:55,958 --> 01:10:57,666 to sell consoles, like that's the only 2227 01:10:57,666 --> 01:10:58,958 reason that they exist. 2228 01:10:59,583 --> 01:11:02,541 Um, brand like Epic is a, an example too, 2229 01:11:02,541 --> 01:11:05,000 is to sell their brand or their launcher. 2230 01:11:05,375 --> 01:11:06,958 Well, I think, I mean, I think five, 2231 01:11:06,958 --> 01:11:08,541 actually seven rebirth was 2232 01:11:08,541 --> 01:11:10,708 meant to be a system seller for Sony. 2233 01:11:10,916 --> 01:11:11,541 That's why they wanted 2234 01:11:11,541 --> 01:11:12,875 an exclusive so badly. 2235 01:11:13,416 --> 01:11:15,166 But I don't think it sold nearly as many 2236 01:11:15,166 --> 01:11:16,500 PS fives as people thought it, 2237 01:11:16,750 --> 01:11:17,791 as they thought it would, I guess. 2238 01:11:19,375 --> 01:11:19,791 Yeah. 2239 01:11:19,833 --> 01:11:21,791 Well, I mean, are any of the consoles 2240 01:11:21,791 --> 01:11:23,708 doing well this generation? 2241 01:11:25,333 --> 01:11:26,291 They're doing a switch. 2242 01:11:27,166 --> 01:11:27,583 The switch. 2243 01:11:27,791 --> 01:11:28,250 Yeah, of course. 2244 01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:29,333 But, uh, which is killing 2245 01:11:29,333 --> 01:11:30,875 the PS five sales, actually. 2246 01:11:31,375 --> 01:11:32,833 Switch is two generations though. 2247 01:11:32,833 --> 01:11:34,541 Like they came out like what, just like a 2248 01:11:34,541 --> 01:11:36,125 year or two after PS four came out. 2249 01:11:36,458 --> 01:11:36,708 Yeah. 2250 01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:38,041 Like a couple of 2251 01:11:38,041 --> 01:11:39,041 years, like they're there. 2252 01:11:39,041 --> 01:11:41,125 I had Scott to consider them the last 2253 01:11:41,125 --> 01:11:42,250 generation, not this generation. 2254 01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:44,041 Well, it's still selling 2255 01:11:44,041 --> 01:11:46,333 consoles and software for it. 2256 01:11:46,333 --> 01:11:47,000 So it was PS four though. 2257 01:11:47,041 --> 01:11:49,583 Especially in other countries. 2258 01:11:50,041 --> 01:11:52,083 Like, yeah, I think is 2259 01:11:52,083 --> 01:11:53,583 like anecdotally, right? 2260 01:11:53,958 --> 01:11:57,250 I know one person in my circle of friends 2261 01:11:57,250 --> 01:12:00,791 who has an Xbox, like the current 2262 01:12:00,791 --> 01:12:03,583 gen Xbox, and I know like maybe four or 2263 01:12:03,583 --> 01:12:06,083 five people who have PlayStation fives. 2264 01:12:06,875 --> 01:12:09,291 But like, if you go back just to the 2265 01:12:09,291 --> 01:12:11,375 previous generation, pretty much 2266 01:12:11,375 --> 01:12:13,125 everyone I knew had a PS four. 2267 01:12:13,583 --> 01:12:13,875 Yeah. 2268 01:12:13,875 --> 01:12:15,041 Like everybody that I 2269 01:12:15,041 --> 01:12:16,375 knew, even like my, um, 2270 01:12:16,458 --> 01:12:19,250 um, my friend's grandmother had a PS four 2271 01:12:19,250 --> 01:12:20,791 and she played it all the time. 2272 01:12:21,291 --> 01:12:22,083 And it's like, that's awesome. 2273 01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:24,166 Dude, she's really, she's a great lady. 2274 01:12:24,708 --> 01:12:27,333 Um, but yeah, like, but now it's like, I 2275 01:12:27,333 --> 01:12:29,791 know, I, I know five people who have 2276 01:12:29,791 --> 01:12:32,125 PlayStation fives and I'm like, at least 2277 01:12:32,125 --> 01:12:33,791 just, they just don't seem to be selling 2278 01:12:33,791 --> 01:12:35,125 and they don't seem to be doing well. 2279 01:12:36,541 --> 01:12:38,333 It's honestly, it's partly the 2280 01:12:38,333 --> 01:12:39,500 exclusivity kind of thing. 2281 01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:41,208 I think partially it's that. 2282 01:12:41,208 --> 01:12:44,208 And also, um, they had a game plan for 2283 01:12:44,208 --> 01:12:45,333 hardware, not games. 2284 01:12:45,666 --> 01:12:49,000 Like the Sony, and I think this is also 2285 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,291 indicative of how long it takes to make 2286 01:12:50,291 --> 01:12:51,833 games nowadays, especially like really, 2287 01:12:51,833 --> 01:12:53,083 really big budget ones. 2288 01:12:53,083 --> 01:12:53,666 It takes a long time. 2289 01:12:53,875 --> 01:12:55,291 I don't think people respect that. 2290 01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:57,708 Um, when they complain about how bad 2291 01:12:57,708 --> 01:12:59,375 games are nowadays, I don't think they 2292 01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:02,041 respect how much it takes to make a 2293 01:13:02,041 --> 01:13:05,125 really, really good triple-A title that 2294 01:13:05,208 --> 01:13:07,166 they're wanting, like if it's open world 2295 01:13:07,166 --> 01:13:09,958 and all that, um, I think maybe we need 2296 01:13:09,958 --> 01:13:11,541 to cut back some of our expectations and 2297 01:13:11,541 --> 01:13:12,750 also game companies need to cut back 2298 01:13:12,833 --> 01:13:15,125 some of the, how big they make games and 2299 01:13:15,125 --> 01:13:16,500 start making more iterative. 2300 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,375 Like multiple in a series instead of like 2301 01:13:19,375 --> 01:13:21,750 these massive ones, because you just. 2302 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,291 The higher chances of failing, but 2303 01:13:24,291 --> 01:13:25,750 besides the point, I'm 2304 01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:28,791 just, I think like I have 2305 01:13:28,791 --> 01:13:31,250 a PS five, um, I bought it. 2306 01:13:32,166 --> 01:13:33,333 I enjoyed it for a little bit. 2307 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,000 I've used it probably 2308 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,083 less than my VR headset. 2309 01:13:36,958 --> 01:13:39,250 Um, and I'm starting to play it again 2310 01:13:39,250 --> 01:13:41,083 with Astro bot, which 2311 01:13:41,083 --> 01:13:42,166 was probably honestly 2312 01:13:42,333 --> 01:13:45,250 the first true first party game that I've 2313 01:13:45,250 --> 01:13:46,250 actually liked on it. 2314 01:13:46,250 --> 01:13:46,791 I think everything 2315 01:13:46,791 --> 01:13:48,000 else has been like, okay. 2316 01:13:48,708 --> 01:13:50,125 And then eventually they they've come out 2317 01:13:50,125 --> 01:13:51,541 with PC versions of it. 2318 01:13:51,541 --> 01:13:52,750 And I just waited for the PC version. 2319 01:13:53,041 --> 01:13:56,625 So they don't, and Xbox is even worse. 2320 01:13:57,375 --> 01:13:59,416 They don't have good first party titles. 2321 01:14:00,125 --> 01:14:02,625 And I don't, and I think 2322 01:14:02,625 --> 01:14:03,541 we're kind of over that. 2323 01:14:03,541 --> 01:14:04,916 I don't think it's 2324 01:14:04,916 --> 01:14:06,208 viable to even do it anymore. 2325 01:14:08,166 --> 01:14:09,000 Exclusivity is. 2326 01:14:09,208 --> 01:14:10,708 So I will say we have, we have had some 2327 01:14:10,708 --> 01:14:12,500 criticisms in the past because people 2328 01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:14,416 thought that we had some weird Xbox hate. 2329 01:14:15,041 --> 01:14:15,750 We don't hate. 2330 01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:16,416 I don't mind me. 2331 01:14:16,416 --> 01:14:17,083 I don't hate Xbox. 2332 01:14:17,666 --> 01:14:19,083 I just hate what Xbox has become. 2333 01:14:21,166 --> 01:14:25,125 I have genuine affection for all three of 2334 01:14:25,125 --> 01:14:26,875 the major console manufacturers. 2335 01:14:27,291 --> 01:14:30,000 Like, like they, I have such great 2336 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,541 memories of some of like the exclusive 2337 01:14:32,708 --> 01:14:33,750 games for each console. 2338 01:14:34,750 --> 01:14:39,375 And I just, I, the reason that I am so 2339 01:14:39,375 --> 01:14:40,833 down on Xbox is one 2340 01:14:40,833 --> 01:14:42,041 it's owned by Microsoft. 2341 01:14:42,041 --> 01:14:43,500 I don't really like Microsoft very much, 2342 01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:46,125 but also the fact that like they have 2343 01:14:46,125 --> 01:14:49,083 just been completely fumbling for two 2344 01:14:49,083 --> 01:14:52,916 generations in, in spectacularly terrible 2345 01:14:52,916 --> 01:14:55,291 ways and it just, I don't know, like 2346 01:14:55,291 --> 01:14:59,333 that's one, that's why I, I shit on 2347 01:14:59,333 --> 01:15:00,000 Microsoft so much in Xbox. 2348 01:15:00,208 --> 01:15:02,000 Cause I just see them 2349 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,166 as losing intentionally. 2350 01:15:05,708 --> 01:15:08,541 Microsoft's an interesting company. 2351 01:15:09,375 --> 01:15:13,291 They're, they're good at like th th th. 2352 01:15:13,416 --> 01:15:16,000 So like with the new CEO that came in to 2353 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,958 play like what, 10 years ago, they really 2354 01:15:17,958 --> 01:15:20,125 put a lot of focus on programming and 2355 01:15:20,125 --> 01:15:21,541 some other things and they've done some 2356 01:15:21,541 --> 01:15:23,750 good stuff in that realm, even though 2357 01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:26,416 they're kind of like, just like any 2358 01:15:27,250 --> 01:15:30,375 corporation, they did, they showed that 2359 01:15:30,375 --> 01:15:32,208 like Google too, they did well in the 2360 01:15:32,208 --> 01:15:33,291 beginning, they showed goodwill. 2361 01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:34,958 And now I feel like this we're kind of at 2362 01:15:34,958 --> 01:15:36,500 that point where now it's time for the 2363 01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:38,000 backstabbing and that's a 2364 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:38,750 little bit of my concern. 2365 01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:40,791 Blizzard was already dead to me. 2366 01:15:41,250 --> 01:15:43,041 So seeing Microsoft buy it up was like, 2367 01:15:43,041 --> 01:15:44,375 well, they couldn't 2368 01:15:44,375 --> 01:15:45,291 get, and I still don't 2369 01:15:45,291 --> 01:15:47,166 think that Microsoft could ever get as 2370 01:15:47,166 --> 01:15:48,208 bad as what Blizzard was. 2371 01:15:48,708 --> 01:15:49,541 Blizzard was horrible. 2372 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,750 Let's just be honest. 2373 01:15:50,958 --> 01:15:54,208 Blizzard was, was, it was going to die. 2374 01:15:54,208 --> 01:15:55,416 And I was really sad. 2375 01:15:55,500 --> 01:15:58,458 It's like watching, it's like watching 2376 01:15:58,458 --> 01:16:00,125 your favorite dog or something like that 2377 01:16:00,125 --> 01:16:03,083 get over almost, but a slow motion sounds 2378 01:16:03,083 --> 01:16:06,666 horrible, but you're just like, I'd love 2379 01:16:06,666 --> 01:16:08,750 this thing so much and you're killing it. 2380 01:16:09,375 --> 01:16:11,333 Um, and there'd be, and 2381 01:16:11,333 --> 01:16:12,458 they were assholes too. 2382 01:16:12,458 --> 01:16:13,708 Like the C level execs 2383 01:16:13,708 --> 01:16:15,125 were assholes about it. 2384 01:16:15,666 --> 01:16:17,041 Um, that's what's even worse. 2385 01:16:17,833 --> 01:16:23,750 And so I think Microsoft is, is, is fine. 2386 01:16:23,916 --> 01:16:26,750 But yeah, I, like, I don't know if we're 2387 01:16:26,750 --> 01:16:27,916 at the end of the layoffs too. 2388 01:16:28,208 --> 01:16:30,625 Like we have another like 2389 01:16:30,625 --> 01:16:32,916 with Tango game works, right? 2390 01:16:33,583 --> 01:16:37,000 They deleted that, um, studio. 2391 01:16:37,458 --> 01:16:38,333 And I don't know if you've heard about 2392 01:16:38,333 --> 01:16:40,458 this one, the high tech, but, uh, Tango 2393 01:16:40,458 --> 01:16:41,500 game works, uh, they 2394 01:16:41,500 --> 01:16:43,208 live again, by the way. 2395 01:16:43,208 --> 01:16:43,458 Hmm. 2396 01:16:44,041 --> 01:16:44,250 Yeah. 2397 01:16:44,291 --> 01:16:44,958 They're back. 2398 01:16:44,958 --> 01:16:45,416 I've heard. 2399 01:16:45,541 --> 01:16:46,500 Craftin, yep. 2400 01:16:46,625 --> 01:16:49,666 Craftin, uh, bought the, at least they 2401 01:16:49,666 --> 01:16:51,708 got the studio back up. 2402 01:16:51,916 --> 01:16:53,500 Like they, I guess, I don't know if they 2403 01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:56,541 bought, they had to get the, uh, hi-fi. 2404 01:16:56,875 --> 01:16:59,166 I'm sure they had to buy the IP, but 2405 01:16:59,166 --> 01:17:00,666 that's the only IP that I have. 2406 01:17:00,666 --> 01:17:01,666 I believe is hi-fi. 2407 01:17:02,708 --> 01:17:06,166 Um, and so, so the evil within and goes 2408 01:17:06,166 --> 01:17:08,458 to our Tokyo are still at with 2409 01:17:08,541 --> 01:17:10,583 Bethesda in my extension, Microsoft. 2410 01:17:11,416 --> 01:17:11,708 Yep. 2411 01:17:12,333 --> 01:17:16,500 Which I could see, I have a feeling that 2412 01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:17,583 they're probably holding onto that. 2413 01:17:17,583 --> 01:17:19,375 I could see if hi-fi rush two does really 2414 01:17:19,375 --> 01:17:21,416 well, which it's such a, I could 2415 01:17:21,458 --> 01:17:22,708 see it doing really well, as long as you 2416 01:17:22,708 --> 01:17:25,125 don't neuter it with game pass, as long 2417 01:17:25,125 --> 01:17:27,708 as you don't, uh, overplay the marketing. 2418 01:17:27,708 --> 01:17:30,041 Cause it's a cult classic cult classics 2419 01:17:30,041 --> 01:17:31,958 only can go so far with marketing. 2420 01:17:32,541 --> 01:17:35,083 Um, as long as they do it well, I can see 2421 01:17:35,083 --> 01:17:37,500 Microsoft well, we'll, we'll sell you 2422 01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:41,000 evil within for a lot more and maybe I 2423 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:41,875 hope they don't ran submit. 2424 01:17:42,041 --> 01:17:43,791 I hope they do well and just give it to 2425 01:17:43,791 --> 01:17:45,833 them for a cheap price or give it to 2426 01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:48,291 them because evil within is one of my 2427 01:17:48,291 --> 01:17:49,166 favorite horror series. 2428 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,333 Um, and evil within two is just such a, 2429 01:17:53,333 --> 01:17:54,500 like it plays so well. 2430 01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:55,333 I really like it. 2431 01:17:55,958 --> 01:17:56,666 It's a, it's a mind 2432 01:17:56,666 --> 01:17:58,250 fuck kind of game too. 2433 01:17:58,250 --> 01:17:59,375 So it's kind of fun for that. 2434 01:17:59,375 --> 01:18:00,416 Cause there's not too many of those types 2435 01:18:00,416 --> 01:18:01,250 of games that do well, 2436 01:18:03,083 --> 01:18:03,833 but it's a niche game. 2437 01:18:03,833 --> 01:18:05,541 Like they're, that's the problem with 2438 01:18:05,541 --> 01:18:07,291 Tango game works that 2439 01:18:07,291 --> 01:18:09,583 they do amazing work, but 2440 01:18:09,583 --> 01:18:13,000 they're niche types of games where people 2441 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,208 don't play, like they're not, it's like 2442 01:18:15,208 --> 01:18:16,250 dead space too also, right? 2443 01:18:17,333 --> 01:18:18,958 Not a lot of people play these types of 2444 01:18:18,958 --> 01:18:21,125 games, like enough to warrant like big 2445 01:18:21,208 --> 01:18:23,250 budgeted triplet budgets. 2446 01:18:23,250 --> 01:18:25,083 And so game companies don't 2447 01:18:25,083 --> 01:18:26,000 usually want to go after that. 2448 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,166 They want to go off after the 2449 01:18:27,166 --> 01:18:28,416 biggest bag they can get right. 2450 01:18:29,083 --> 01:18:32,291 As opposed to, um, doing a lot of good 2451 01:18:32,291 --> 01:18:33,750 little bets that will 2452 01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:34,666 pay off really well. 2453 01:18:34,666 --> 01:18:37,708 As long as they don't have this weird 2454 01:18:37,708 --> 01:18:39,250 mindset that they can put in a hundred 2455 01:18:39,291 --> 01:18:40,500 thousand or a hundred million dollars 2456 01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,291 into marketing and expect it to re have 2457 01:18:42,333 --> 01:18:45,125 returns like that, you know, 2458 01:18:45,625 --> 01:18:46,666 so I am, yeah. 2459 01:18:46,916 --> 01:18:49,583 So I am curious how a Tango games or 2460 01:18:49,583 --> 01:18:51,750 games circle proceed without, you know, 2461 01:18:52,208 --> 01:18:54,250 some of their big known talents like, uh, 2462 01:18:54,833 --> 01:18:56,625 Shinjime Kami, uh, you know, former 2463 01:18:56,666 --> 01:18:58,458 Capcom, he made resident evil. 2464 01:18:58,458 --> 01:19:00,000 He also made the evil with him. 2465 01:19:00,125 --> 01:19:00,500 That's true. 2466 01:19:00,958 --> 01:19:04,291 And also I try to remember her name, the, 2467 01:19:04,291 --> 01:19:06,375 like, eccentric, the very eccentric 2468 01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:09,250 Japanese, uh, like developer that was 2469 01:19:09,250 --> 01:19:10,291 like, she was on stage 2470 01:19:10,291 --> 01:19:11,083 and that people loved 2471 01:19:11,083 --> 01:19:11,708 her on the internet. 2472 01:19:13,333 --> 01:19:13,791 Oh yeah. 2473 01:19:13,958 --> 01:19:16,791 Oh, oh, I'm not going to 2474 01:19:16,791 --> 01:19:17,583 be able to remember it. 2475 01:19:17,583 --> 01:19:19,333 Yeah, I don't remember, but I know what 2476 01:19:19,333 --> 01:19:19,833 you're talking about. 2477 01:19:20,333 --> 01:19:20,541 Yeah. 2478 01:19:21,333 --> 01:19:23,291 Uh, I think they could do fine, but yeah, 2479 01:19:23,291 --> 01:19:24,666 maybe, maybe that triggers 2480 01:19:24,666 --> 01:19:25,833 that evil within is dead. 2481 01:19:26,500 --> 01:19:27,041 Um, 2482 01:19:27,291 --> 01:19:27,875 Oh, yeah. 2483 01:19:28,083 --> 01:19:28,875 Not going to be, he can work. 2484 01:19:28,875 --> 01:19:29,125 He can work. 2485 01:19:29,125 --> 01:19:29,333 He can work. 2486 01:19:29,541 --> 01:19:29,791 Yeah. 2487 01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:30,708 Yeah. 2488 01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:34,125 She also did the art for the evil within 2489 01:19:34,125 --> 01:19:35,458 and the evil for the two. 2490 01:19:35,708 --> 01:19:36,583 And she basically 2491 01:19:36,583 --> 01:19:38,541 directed ghost wire Tokyo. 2492 01:19:39,625 --> 01:19:39,958 Hmm. 2493 01:19:40,708 --> 01:19:46,000 Uh, well, and she was also, she was also 2494 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,458 working for cat to, she did 2495 01:19:48,458 --> 01:19:51,666 Okami, the artwork for Okami. 2496 01:19:52,291 --> 01:19:54,791 I think she's going back. 2497 01:19:54,791 --> 01:19:55,583 Like, where is she now? 2498 01:19:55,583 --> 01:19:56,500 Did she go back to, 2499 01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:58,000 she has her own studio. 2500 01:19:58,416 --> 01:19:59,041 Oh, she also did the 2501 01:19:59,041 --> 01:20:00,291 arm for Bayonetta as well. 2502 01:20:02,458 --> 01:20:04,250 So she's got a lot of, she's done a lot 2503 01:20:04,250 --> 01:20:06,250 of really like influential games. 2504 01:20:06,750 --> 01:20:08,333 Like, interesting. 2505 01:20:10,666 --> 01:20:10,958 Yeah. 2506 01:20:11,291 --> 01:20:12,875 I, I'm that kind of, 2507 01:20:12,875 --> 01:20:14,375 uh, I got my hopes up. 2508 01:20:14,833 --> 01:20:16,541 I now you destroyed my hopes. 2509 01:20:16,541 --> 01:20:17,291 I don't think there's going 2510 01:20:17,291 --> 01:20:18,375 to be another evil within. 2511 01:20:19,125 --> 01:20:20,916 Uh, there could be, there could be. 2512 01:20:20,916 --> 01:20:22,166 Well, I don't think either of them were 2513 01:20:22,166 --> 01:20:24,333 really that involved in, uh, 2514 01:20:24,750 --> 01:20:25,875 Hi-Fi rush though, to be honest. 2515 01:20:26,250 --> 01:20:26,458 Yeah. 2516 01:20:26,666 --> 01:20:29,666 And so I, it sounds like Tango GameWorks 2517 01:20:29,666 --> 01:20:31,333 is going to pivot to high fresh, high, 2518 01:20:31,333 --> 01:20:33,583 high five rush style games, which is good 2519 01:20:33,583 --> 01:20:34,416 for them, which is good. 2520 01:20:34,416 --> 01:20:37,458 I, I, I'm happy as long as they're, um, a 2521 01:20:37,458 --> 01:20:39,500 studio again and doing what they love. 2522 01:20:40,416 --> 01:20:43,458 Um, even if it kills a 2523 01:20:43,458 --> 01:20:44,791 favorite friends, tries of mine. 2524 01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:50,750 Ah, so I just want to say Krafton, I 2525 01:20:50,750 --> 01:20:52,125 believe they're the guys that 2526 01:20:52,166 --> 01:20:52,958 own PUBG. 2527 01:20:54,166 --> 01:20:54,500 Yes. 2528 01:20:54,750 --> 01:20:56,541 And I just, and I just want to say, I 2529 01:20:56,541 --> 01:20:57,666 found this out the other day. 2530 01:20:58,333 --> 01:21:00,708 So, you know how PUBG stands for player 2531 01:21:00,708 --> 01:21:02,375 unknowns about player unknowns, 2532 01:21:02,375 --> 01:21:03,833 battlegrounds, cause it's named after 2533 01:21:03,833 --> 01:21:05,375 like, you know, the guy player unknown. 2534 01:21:06,041 --> 01:21:08,333 So apparently on Steam, get this. 2535 01:21:09,041 --> 01:21:10,791 The game isn't called player knowns 2536 01:21:10,791 --> 01:21:11,625 battlegrounds anymore. 2537 01:21:11,625 --> 01:21:14,708 It's called PUBG battlegrounds. 2538 01:21:15,375 --> 01:21:16,083 Player unknown 2539 01:21:16,083 --> 01:21:18,750 battlegrounds battlegrounds. 2540 01:21:18,750 --> 01:21:18,958 Yeah. 2541 01:21:19,208 --> 01:21:21,166 Why ATM machine? 2542 01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:22,708 Yeah. 2543 01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:24,500 I don't call it ATM machine. 2544 01:21:24,500 --> 01:21:25,041 I just call it ATM. 2545 01:21:25,625 --> 01:21:26,416 I know. 2546 01:21:26,833 --> 01:21:27,041 Right. 2547 01:21:28,416 --> 01:21:28,958 Yeah. 2548 01:21:28,958 --> 01:21:29,583 It's weird. 2549 01:21:30,833 --> 01:21:30,958 Yeah. 2550 01:21:30,958 --> 01:21:31,666 It just happens. 2551 01:21:31,875 --> 01:21:32,500 That's just what happens 2552 01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:33,791 with acronyms over time. 2553 01:21:33,791 --> 01:21:35,333 They don't become act like they kind of 2554 01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:36,791 just lose their acronym meaning. 2555 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,791 And you just think of PUBG. 2556 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,083 Like I get it. 2557 01:21:40,083 --> 01:21:40,416 An acronym. 2558 01:21:40,791 --> 01:21:41,583 I get, yeah. 2559 01:21:41,583 --> 01:21:43,500 People calling it an ATM machine, but 2560 01:21:43,500 --> 01:21:44,833 this was a hundred percent completely 2561 01:21:44,916 --> 01:21:48,041 avoidable to be, to be fair. 2562 01:21:48,041 --> 01:21:49,000 I always forgot about 2563 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,125 what PUBG even meant. 2564 01:21:50,416 --> 01:21:50,833 I know. 2565 01:21:50,833 --> 01:21:52,375 Like when you say it, like I know what 2566 01:21:52,375 --> 01:21:55,250 that is, but I, I don't, I think you'd 2567 01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:57,041 be shocked if you did a poll on how many 2568 01:21:57,041 --> 01:21:59,291 people without looking it up. 2569 01:21:59,750 --> 01:22:02,208 Knew what PUBG exactly meant. 2570 01:22:03,333 --> 01:22:03,708 Oh man. 2571 01:22:04,291 --> 01:22:04,750 All right. 2572 01:22:05,083 --> 01:22:06,666 Well, just saying marketing, man. 2573 01:22:06,958 --> 01:22:07,500 I played it. 2574 01:22:07,666 --> 01:22:08,166 Just saying. 2575 01:22:08,458 --> 01:22:08,666 Yeah. 2576 01:22:08,791 --> 01:22:10,375 I played a little bit of it. 2577 01:22:10,375 --> 01:22:12,041 It's, it was a lot of fun, like in the 2578 01:22:12,041 --> 01:22:13,916 early days, cause it was just pure 2579 01:22:13,916 --> 01:22:15,250 battle royale, but 2580 01:22:15,250 --> 01:22:17,416 yeah, it's free to play now. 2581 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,583 So you know how shit, you 2582 01:22:19,583 --> 01:22:20,750 know, how shit goes with that. 2583 01:22:21,583 --> 01:22:21,958 Yeah. 2584 01:22:21,958 --> 01:22:23,750 I played it because friends played it, 2585 01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:26,000 but I really don't like 2586 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,791 arena style like that. 2587 01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:29,958 Not a fan. 2588 01:22:32,708 --> 01:22:34,208 It's yeah. 2589 01:22:36,125 --> 01:22:39,458 Oh, did Krafton do Kalista protocol? 2590 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,083 They did as well. 2591 01:22:42,083 --> 01:22:43,833 It was, I remember it was supposed to be 2592 01:22:43,833 --> 01:22:47,791 part of the PUBG universe, but then they 2593 01:22:47,791 --> 01:22:49,083 kind of scrapped that. 2594 01:22:49,416 --> 01:22:52,625 I don't know how that was what it was 2595 01:22:52,625 --> 01:22:53,541 originally going to be. 2596 01:22:54,541 --> 01:22:56,291 I remember reading that report and that 2597 01:22:56,291 --> 01:22:57,541 was, I remember thinking that was the 2598 01:22:57,541 --> 01:22:58,416 stupidest thing ever. 2599 01:22:59,041 --> 01:22:59,500 And then it never happens. 2600 01:22:59,500 --> 01:22:59,625 Yeah. 2601 01:22:59,625 --> 01:23:02,041 That's, I mean, they, I mean, if you play it, I don't know. 2602 01:23:02,666 --> 01:23:04,791 They, I mean, if you play Kalista 2603 01:23:04,791 --> 01:23:06,458 protocol, it's not any, 2604 01:23:06,458 --> 01:23:07,166 it doesn't feel like it has 2605 01:23:07,166 --> 01:23:08,416 anything to do with PUBG. 2606 01:23:08,583 --> 01:23:10,250 No, they scrapped that. 2607 01:23:10,250 --> 01:23:11,375 They scrapped that. 2608 01:23:11,375 --> 01:23:11,666 I know. 2609 01:23:11,666 --> 01:23:12,041 I know. 2610 01:23:12,041 --> 01:23:13,958 But like, doesn't feel like there's any 2611 01:23:13,958 --> 01:23:15,041 remnants or anything of that. 2612 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,458 Kalista, I'm really like sad because 2613 01:23:18,458 --> 01:23:20,041 Kalista protocol was very rough. 2614 01:23:20,041 --> 01:23:21,666 It was very good, but if I don't think 2615 01:23:21,666 --> 01:23:22,708 they're going to have another chance with 2616 01:23:22,708 --> 01:23:24,166 that, I think if they made a second one, 2617 01:23:24,166 --> 01:23:24,958 it'd be much better. 2618 01:23:26,250 --> 01:23:26,583 Yeah. 2619 01:23:27,333 --> 01:23:29,166 But at least they gave them a chance. 2620 01:23:29,208 --> 01:23:31,958 Like it was a couple of devs, the old 2621 01:23:31,958 --> 01:23:33,458 devs of dead space that made it. 2622 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:35,916 Um, I think if they like, at least they 2623 01:23:35,916 --> 01:23:36,416 gave them a chance 2624 01:23:36,416 --> 01:23:37,500 and I love seeing that. 2625 01:23:37,500 --> 01:23:40,875 So we'll at least give Krafton like, at 2626 01:23:40,875 --> 01:23:43,083 least they're given these, um, developers 2627 01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:44,875 that did iconic things 2628 01:23:44,875 --> 01:23:46,875 in the past chances again. 2629 01:23:47,791 --> 01:23:50,958 So I will say PUBG, what was the most, 2630 01:23:50,958 --> 01:23:53,333 was the top played game, like period. 2631 01:23:53,958 --> 01:23:55,958 Top, if you look at top records, number 2632 01:23:55,958 --> 01:23:58,916 one, at PUBG was PUBG at 3 million, 2633 01:23:59,041 --> 01:24:04,291 236,027 concurrent players at the top, 2634 01:24:04,541 --> 01:24:05,541 followed by a black myth. 2635 01:24:05,541 --> 01:24:07,291 Wukong followed by power 2636 01:24:07,291 --> 01:24:09,583 world, followed by CSP here. 2637 01:24:10,625 --> 01:24:11,625 No, no, no, not last year. 2638 01:24:11,625 --> 01:24:12,500 This is just all time. 2639 01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:12,833 It's all time. 2640 01:24:13,208 --> 01:24:13,458 Yeah. 2641 01:24:14,291 --> 01:24:15,541 It's peak was in 2018. 2642 01:24:16,666 --> 01:24:18,250 Wukong's the second. 2643 01:24:18,666 --> 01:24:19,041 Yes. 2644 01:24:19,583 --> 01:24:21,041 Followed by power world. 2645 01:24:22,416 --> 01:24:24,916 Power world's like a online game though. 2646 01:24:25,250 --> 01:24:26,125 Like that makes sense. 2647 01:24:26,416 --> 01:24:26,791 It's not online. 2648 01:24:27,083 --> 01:24:28,625 Well, I mean, you can play on my power. 2649 01:24:28,958 --> 01:24:30,416 It's not like a live service game. 2650 01:24:30,875 --> 01:24:34,041 No, but it's like anything else. 2651 01:24:34,041 --> 01:24:37,333 It's like seven days or any of these, uh, 2652 01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:38,000 survival world builders. 2653 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,583 You almost always play it on 2654 01:24:39,583 --> 01:24:41,000 a server or with someone else. 2655 01:24:41,333 --> 01:24:41,541 Yeah. 2656 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,166 It's much better that way 2657 01:24:43,166 --> 01:24:46,083 that is, but so that makes sense. 2658 01:24:46,583 --> 01:24:48,041 Wukong is kind of an interesting. 2659 01:24:48,708 --> 01:24:50,416 Yeah, because it's almost entirely. 2660 01:24:51,625 --> 01:24:53,041 If I had to guess, it's because of China. 2661 01:24:54,041 --> 01:24:55,083 Yeah, it's gotta be. 2662 01:24:55,500 --> 01:24:56,500 That's still crazy though. 2663 01:24:56,500 --> 01:24:58,458 To be fair, PUBG was also super popular. 2664 01:24:58,666 --> 01:24:59,958 In Asia, in fact, so 2665 01:24:59,958 --> 01:25:00,916 much so that they have. 2666 01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:01,708 Yeah. 2667 01:25:01,750 --> 01:25:02,000 Yeah. 2668 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:02,791 That's probably why too. 2669 01:25:03,291 --> 01:25:06,916 And then we have CS2, Lost Ark, Dota 2, 2670 01:25:07,666 --> 01:25:09,625 Elden Ring, almost hit a million, but 2671 01:25:09,625 --> 01:25:11,500 they didn't new world. 2672 01:25:11,958 --> 01:25:14,166 Uh, and what the hell is banana? 2673 01:25:15,458 --> 01:25:16,458 What the hell is this? 2674 01:25:17,916 --> 01:25:20,958 It's banana, followed 2675 01:25:20,958 --> 01:25:22,750 by a Baldur's Gate 3. 2676 01:25:24,041 --> 01:25:25,583 Oh, that's cool. 2677 01:25:25,958 --> 01:25:27,291 Banana is probably some gen alpha. 2678 01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:28,708 Let's see what it's. 2679 01:25:28,708 --> 01:25:29,291 The game. 2680 01:25:29,291 --> 01:25:30,291 Is it a clicker? 2681 01:25:30,375 --> 01:25:32,458 It's a, it's a fucking clicker game. 2682 01:25:33,166 --> 01:25:33,500 Yeah. 2683 01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:36,166 Oh, wait, it's this game. 2684 01:25:36,166 --> 01:25:38,208 You get like banana drops and shit. 2685 01:25:40,708 --> 01:25:42,458 Dude, that's live action of 2686 01:25:42,458 --> 01:25:43,708 you finding out is hilarious. 2687 01:25:44,958 --> 01:25:46,291 You're not sharing your screen. 2688 01:25:47,333 --> 01:25:48,333 Oh my God. 2689 01:25:49,416 --> 01:25:50,291 What the fuck? 2690 01:25:50,500 --> 01:25:51,291 Is it on Steam? 2691 01:25:51,791 --> 01:25:52,541 It is on Steam. 2692 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,958 They use the Steam marketplace to like, I 2693 01:25:55,958 --> 01:25:56,958 remember hearing about some 2694 01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,250 game where it like, like stuff and people 2695 01:26:00,250 --> 01:26:02,166 started trading bananas and they 2696 01:26:02,166 --> 01:26:02,875 kept playing this game to 2697 01:26:02,875 --> 01:26:05,250 get banana, rare bananas. 2698 01:26:06,166 --> 01:26:06,791 Oh my gosh. 2699 01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:08,333 Fucking bullshit. 2700 01:26:09,041 --> 01:26:10,750 I mean, I hate it, but at the same time, 2701 01:26:10,750 --> 01:26:13,791 I still want to copy this and do like a 2702 01:26:14,083 --> 01:26:15,041 store-based gambling 2703 01:26:15,041 --> 01:26:17,666 system with it and then retire. 2704 01:26:18,541 --> 01:26:19,000 Fuck it. 2705 01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:19,458 I'm kidding. 2706 01:26:19,458 --> 01:26:19,833 I'm kidding. 2707 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,125 By the way. 2708 01:26:21,958 --> 01:26:25,291 Uh, yeah, so. 2709 01:26:26,958 --> 01:26:29,791 So speaking of like, we've talked about 2710 01:26:29,791 --> 01:26:31,750 the PS4, PS5 and all that stuff. 2711 01:26:32,375 --> 01:26:33,875 Um, but there's another thing though, 2712 01:26:33,875 --> 01:26:35,916 like we haven't really 2713 01:26:35,916 --> 01:26:36,916 been able to play on the 2714 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,375 deck yet and it looks like you kind of 2715 01:26:39,375 --> 01:26:41,291 can, but Emu deck just 2716 01:26:41,291 --> 01:26:44,166 added, uh, is it Shad PS4? 2717 01:26:44,291 --> 01:26:44,875 That's right. 2718 01:26:45,208 --> 01:26:45,958 Shad PS4. 2719 01:26:45,958 --> 01:26:47,000 It's a PS4 emulator 2720 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,750 and it runs Bloodborne. 2721 01:26:49,416 --> 01:26:51,125 That's all that you need to know. 2722 01:26:51,333 --> 01:26:51,791 You go. 2723 01:26:52,166 --> 01:26:52,833 It runs it okay. 2724 01:26:53,083 --> 01:26:56,208 I watched the videos of, uh, deck wizard. 2725 01:26:56,625 --> 01:26:59,208 Uh, did the deck wizard was your deck? 2726 01:26:59,208 --> 01:27:00,750 What, what, what's his face? 2727 01:27:01,166 --> 01:27:03,500 Um, that's why it and I'm like, yeah, I, 2728 01:27:04,625 --> 01:27:06,708 uh, I wouldn't play it. 2729 01:27:06,708 --> 01:27:07,500 No, I wouldn't either. 2730 01:27:07,916 --> 01:27:08,458 I'd probably wait for 2731 01:27:08,458 --> 01:27:10,958 the two still cool though. 2732 01:27:11,166 --> 01:27:13,625 And it looked like crap, but it looked 2733 01:27:13,625 --> 01:27:15,458 that's, that's, it's a great step. 2734 01:27:15,458 --> 01:27:18,416 And like the cool thing is steam deck two 2735 01:27:18,416 --> 01:27:20,583 comes out this year, you know, with 2736 01:27:20,625 --> 01:27:23,083 half life three, um, with the decker 2737 01:27:23,083 --> 01:27:25,458 support, all that, like it will play fine 2738 01:27:25,458 --> 01:27:28,375 on it there, like the gaming machine. 2739 01:27:28,375 --> 01:27:30,625 It's got half life three and bloodborne 2740 01:27:30,625 --> 01:27:34,916 on that's that's a bonkers. 2741 01:27:35,541 --> 01:27:36,791 That's a bonkers to say. 2742 01:27:37,291 --> 01:27:37,500 Okay. 2743 01:27:38,208 --> 01:27:38,583 I'm down. 2744 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:39,208 Yeah. 2745 01:27:39,625 --> 01:27:41,833 I'm looking at the Emu deck interface and 2746 01:27:41,833 --> 01:27:43,333 it looks completely different now. 2747 01:27:43,333 --> 01:27:43,875 What the hell? 2748 01:27:43,875 --> 01:27:46,000 I, yeah, it changes every couple months. 2749 01:27:46,916 --> 01:27:49,458 Like, uh, I need to do an updated video 2750 01:27:49,458 --> 01:27:50,958 on installing it and stuff. 2751 01:27:50,958 --> 01:27:52,541 Cause it's, it's different. 2752 01:27:53,250 --> 01:27:55,250 But the nice thing about any deck is that 2753 01:27:55,250 --> 01:27:58,416 like the, like it handles all the 2754 01:27:58,416 --> 01:28:00,000 configuration and that 2755 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,541 is super, super nice. 2756 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,708 Any deck handles all of it. 2757 01:28:03,708 --> 01:28:05,458 You don't have to worry about controls. 2758 01:28:05,458 --> 01:28:06,375 You don't have to worry about 2759 01:28:06,375 --> 01:28:08,000 setting up the optimizations. 2760 01:28:08,458 --> 01:28:10,041 It does it all for you. 2761 01:28:10,041 --> 01:28:10,791 It's great. 2762 01:28:11,416 --> 01:28:13,958 Uh, and that's why, that's why it's 2763 01:28:13,958 --> 01:28:16,791 really cool to see shad ps4 being added. 2764 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,291 So you can almost play 2765 01:28:18,291 --> 01:28:20,000 bloodborne on here to see that. 2766 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:20,333 Almost. 2767 01:28:20,750 --> 01:28:20,958 Yeah. 2768 01:28:21,541 --> 01:28:24,000 I mean, but also think about this, right? 2769 01:28:24,291 --> 01:28:26,583 The fact that it's now in here means that 2770 01:28:26,583 --> 01:28:29,541 like, there are, there's incentives 2771 01:28:29,666 --> 01:28:31,000 for the shad ps4 2772 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,000 developers to optimize for the deck. 2773 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,916 I mean, there has been, but like, this is 2774 01:28:34,916 --> 01:28:36,833 even cool, even cooler, I think. 2775 01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:38,666 And the deck being like a 2776 01:28:38,666 --> 01:28:39,750 singular hardware target. 2777 01:28:39,833 --> 01:28:40,958 I talk about this all the time. 2778 01:28:41,625 --> 01:28:43,708 It means that like things can be 2779 01:28:43,708 --> 01:28:45,083 developed in a specific 2780 01:28:45,250 --> 01:28:46,875 targeted way for the steam deck. 2781 01:28:47,625 --> 01:28:48,500 I don't know if it's ever going to get 2782 01:28:48,500 --> 01:28:50,500 really good, but it might 2783 01:28:50,541 --> 01:28:52,916 become acceptably good to play. 2784 01:28:53,208 --> 01:28:53,416 Right. 2785 01:28:53,958 --> 01:28:55,208 And that's pretty neat. 2786 01:28:55,541 --> 01:28:55,875 I think. 2787 01:28:57,291 --> 01:28:57,875 Dude. 2788 01:28:58,375 --> 01:28:58,833 Agreed. 2789 01:28:59,041 --> 01:28:59,333 Agreed. 2790 01:28:59,333 --> 01:29:00,166 And there's always like 2791 01:29:00,166 --> 01:29:01,583 improvements going on. 2792 01:29:01,583 --> 01:29:04,208 And because ps4 and the steam deck have 2793 01:29:04,208 --> 01:29:06,041 similar hardware, it can also 2794 01:29:06,041 --> 01:29:07,583 help with the emulation side of things. 2795 01:29:08,291 --> 01:29:08,416 Yeah. 2796 01:29:08,625 --> 01:29:09,791 And also running it at 2797 01:29:09,791 --> 01:29:11,583 like 720p won't hurt. 2798 01:29:12,375 --> 01:29:12,583 Yeah. 2799 01:29:13,541 --> 01:29:13,833 Yeah. 2800 01:29:13,833 --> 01:29:15,333 That's an actually interesting thing. 2801 01:29:16,208 --> 01:29:18,083 They could, this emulator, I don't know 2802 01:29:18,083 --> 01:29:19,958 how they built it, but it should only 2803 01:29:19,958 --> 01:29:21,875 improve, it should get to a point where a 2804 01:29:21,875 --> 01:29:23,416 lot of games should work fine on, 2805 01:29:23,416 --> 01:29:24,958 uh, on the P on the steam deck. 2806 01:29:25,458 --> 01:29:25,708 Yeah. 2807 01:29:26,416 --> 01:29:28,583 Because the architecture so similar, they 2808 01:29:28,583 --> 01:29:30,000 don't really have to emulate much. 2809 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,666 They probably just have to deal with, uh, 2810 01:29:32,666 --> 01:29:34,291 DRM and maybe a couple other issues. 2811 01:29:34,708 --> 01:29:36,791 Do we know how shad ps4 2812 01:29:36,791 --> 01:29:37,750 is doing its emulation? 2813 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,125 Is it like a high level proton thing or 2814 01:29:40,125 --> 01:29:41,125 is it like a low level? 2815 01:29:41,291 --> 01:29:42,500 I hope it's not. 2816 01:29:42,541 --> 01:29:44,333 I, um, I don't know. 2817 01:29:44,333 --> 01:29:44,791 Actually, I thought 2818 01:29:44,791 --> 01:29:45,958 we'd have to look into it. 2819 01:29:46,875 --> 01:29:48,000 I think it is open source though. 2820 01:29:48,250 --> 01:29:48,458 Yes. 2821 01:29:50,916 --> 01:29:52,750 I hope it's not a proton thing because 2822 01:29:52,750 --> 01:29:54,000 they don't really need to do that. 2823 01:29:55,291 --> 01:29:57,916 I wouldn't think it might, it could be 2824 01:29:57,916 --> 01:29:59,208 like LLVM or something. 2825 01:29:59,208 --> 01:29:59,583 I don't know. 2826 01:29:59,583 --> 01:30:03,958 I'm looking at the LLVM is what, um, P R 2827 01:30:03,958 --> 01:30:07,208 P S R PCS three does low level emulation. 2828 01:30:08,166 --> 01:30:09,708 Uh, it's like a low 2829 01:30:09,708 --> 01:30:10,666 level virtual machine. 2830 01:30:11,375 --> 01:30:13,625 It has to do that almost the PS three is 2831 01:30:13,625 --> 01:30:16,500 a very, very weird architected, uh, 2832 01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:20,750 yeah, device, um, very, very different 2833 01:30:20,750 --> 01:30:22,291 compared to other anything else. 2834 01:30:22,291 --> 01:30:24,000 It costs Sony a lot to make the PS three. 2835 01:30:24,250 --> 01:30:26,208 I remember, um, uh, there was a different 2836 01:30:26,208 --> 01:30:28,291 PS four emulator that was like super 2837 01:30:28,291 --> 01:30:30,791 work in progress that essentially was 2838 01:30:30,791 --> 01:30:32,750 like a compatibility layer. 2839 01:30:32,750 --> 01:30:34,125 It was Linux exclusive at the time. 2840 01:30:34,416 --> 01:30:35,041 What was it called? 2841 01:30:35,375 --> 01:30:36,500 Backbone or something like that? 2842 01:30:36,666 --> 01:30:37,000 Spine. 2843 01:30:37,291 --> 01:30:37,750 Something like that. 2844 01:30:37,958 --> 01:30:38,375 Yeah. 2845 01:30:38,375 --> 01:30:39,666 I think it was spine PS 2846 01:30:39,666 --> 01:30:40,750 four or something like that. 2847 01:30:40,750 --> 01:30:41,000 Yeah. 2848 01:30:41,666 --> 01:30:42,250 I don't, I've never heard 2849 01:30:42,250 --> 01:30:43,416 about what happened to that. 2850 01:30:43,875 --> 01:30:46,000 I don't, I also think he just got less 2851 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,791 interested in stock working on it from 2852 01:30:47,791 --> 01:30:49,833 my recollection of disappointing because 2853 01:30:49,833 --> 01:30:50,416 he said it was going 2854 01:30:50,416 --> 01:30:51,333 to make it open source. 2855 01:30:51,541 --> 01:30:53,125 But Hey, we've got shad PS 2856 01:30:53,125 --> 01:30:55,000 four now who needs spine, right? 2857 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:55,833 I guess. 2858 01:30:56,125 --> 01:30:56,375 Hmm. 2859 01:30:58,166 --> 01:30:58,375 Yeah. 2860 01:30:59,208 --> 01:30:59,500 Yeah. 2861 01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:01,916 So let's go to the 2862 01:31:01,916 --> 01:31:03,458 compatibility list of a game. 2863 01:31:03,625 --> 01:31:07,916 So we have 169 games that are playable, 2864 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,291 213 games that are in game 103 games 2865 01:31:12,291 --> 01:31:15,500 that are in menus, 200 games, 200 games 2866 01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:19,666 that boot up and about 964 games that do 2867 01:31:19,666 --> 01:31:21,666 not work like at all in any capacity. 2868 01:31:24,666 --> 01:31:25,583 So I, oh yeah. 2869 01:31:25,583 --> 01:31:26,541 So I'm reading this. 2870 01:31:26,541 --> 01:31:28,416 It says shad PS four can load some 2871 01:31:28,416 --> 01:31:30,000 modules of look, LLE mode. 2872 01:31:30,458 --> 01:31:32,375 Some are, some are necessary and some 2873 01:31:32,375 --> 01:31:33,833 have HLE replacements. 2874 01:31:35,125 --> 01:31:36,791 So yeah, I'm guessing it is low level 2875 01:31:36,791 --> 01:31:39,541 emulation and some like high level 2876 01:31:39,583 --> 01:31:41,625 emulation, I'm not, I'm not entirely 2877 01:31:41,625 --> 01:31:42,750 privy as to how it works. 2878 01:31:44,458 --> 01:31:45,000 That'll be interesting. 2879 01:31:45,458 --> 01:31:47,416 I'll have to dig into that a little bit. 2880 01:31:47,958 --> 01:31:49,041 It's cool that they added it though. 2881 01:31:49,875 --> 01:31:52,500 Um, curious how they have 2882 01:31:52,500 --> 01:31:53,541 that whole system set up. 2883 01:31:53,541 --> 01:31:55,708 I I've built something semi-similar to 2884 01:31:55,708 --> 01:31:57,500 EmuDeck at one point and I still kind of 2885 01:31:57,541 --> 01:31:58,541 support something like it, 2886 01:31:58,541 --> 01:32:00,541 but I don't do emulation stuff. 2887 01:32:00,916 --> 01:32:03,541 So I will say, uh, some of these modules 2888 01:32:03,541 --> 01:32:05,750 need to, some like modules need to be 2889 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:08,791 extracted from your own PS4 or I guess 2890 01:32:08,791 --> 01:32:10,000 more accurately downloaded from the 2891 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:10,750 internet, I don't know where you're going 2892 01:32:10,750 --> 01:32:13,375 to find it because even if I did know, I 2893 01:32:13,375 --> 01:32:14,958 probably wouldn't tell you guys because 2894 01:32:14,958 --> 01:32:17,625 it's the content creator thing to do. 2895 01:32:17,625 --> 01:32:19,000 We wouldn't be very good content creators 2896 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,250 if we provided piracy links. 2897 01:32:20,250 --> 01:32:22,458 Now what would we, would we, 2898 01:32:22,916 --> 01:32:25,250 that end also, it opens you up to a lot 2899 01:32:25,250 --> 01:32:26,666 of crap that you don't want to do it. 2900 01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:30,833 Uh, luckily I, I just jail broke my PS4 a 2901 01:32:30,833 --> 01:32:33,000 couple of weeks ago, so I totally could 2902 01:32:33,333 --> 01:32:34,416 do a video about this. 2903 01:32:35,208 --> 01:32:35,666 Maybe you should. 2904 01:32:35,958 --> 01:32:36,166 Yeah. 2905 01:32:36,416 --> 01:32:36,583 Nice. 2906 01:32:37,083 --> 01:32:37,625 Maybe you should. 2907 01:32:38,333 --> 01:32:38,500 Yeah. 2908 01:32:40,291 --> 01:32:40,958 I think it'd be fun. 2909 01:32:41,750 --> 01:32:42,125 It'd be fun. 2910 01:32:42,125 --> 01:32:42,333 Watch. 2911 01:32:42,791 --> 01:32:43,041 Yeah. 2912 01:32:43,916 --> 01:32:44,416 Oh yeah. 2913 01:32:44,916 --> 01:32:47,708 So shad ps4, it's interesting. 2914 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,791 You could play, what, what ps4 exclusives 2915 01:32:50,791 --> 01:32:52,916 are there even if we have bloodborne and, 2916 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,375 a lot of interesting. 2917 01:32:57,916 --> 01:32:58,166 Yeah. 2918 01:32:59,208 --> 01:33:00,375 A lot of the interesting ones have been 2919 01:33:00,375 --> 01:33:02,458 done or like been ported over to PC. 2920 01:33:02,458 --> 01:33:05,541 I feel like for me, you could play the 2921 01:33:05,541 --> 01:33:07,375 ps4 version of God of war three. 2922 01:33:08,083 --> 01:33:10,708 It might even run better than our, it 2923 01:33:10,708 --> 01:33:11,541 might eventually run 2924 01:33:11,541 --> 01:33:13,625 better on shad ps4 than 2925 01:33:13,625 --> 01:33:15,666 our PCS three. 2926 01:33:15,708 --> 01:33:16,583 Yeah. 2927 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:18,875 Uh, red dead redemption to 2928 01:33:18,875 --> 01:33:20,083 play that, but that's on PC now. 2929 01:33:20,083 --> 01:33:22,458 It's on PC now. Oh, wait. Really? 2930 01:33:23,708 --> 01:33:26,000 I thought just red to turn two was on. 2931 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:26,833 Oh, they just came out 2932 01:33:26,833 --> 01:33:27,875 a couple of months ago. 2933 01:33:27,875 --> 01:33:29,291 Oh, I didn't know that. 2934 01:33:29,541 --> 01:33:29,916 Yeah. 2935 01:33:29,916 --> 01:33:31,458 It was more expensive than red dead to. 2936 01:33:32,583 --> 01:33:36,125 Oh my God, dude. 2937 01:33:36,500 --> 01:33:39,208 Yeah, no, they, they have like, they, I 2938 01:33:39,208 --> 01:33:41,375 think most of the exclusives that I want 2939 01:33:41,375 --> 01:33:45,083 is already like on PC, which I hope Sony 2940 01:33:45,083 --> 01:33:46,000 doesn't go away from that. 2941 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,208 I don't want to say anything to jinx it, but yeah, that's another thing. 2942 01:33:47,666 --> 01:33:50,625 I mean, it's another thing. 2943 01:33:50,916 --> 01:33:51,083 Let's see. 2944 01:33:51,083 --> 01:33:51,291 Huh? 2945 01:33:51,375 --> 01:33:55,625 Let's see that ps4 exclusives not on PC. 2946 01:33:56,791 --> 01:34:01,000 I see bloodborne, of course, naturally. 2947 01:34:03,333 --> 01:34:06,000 Um, deep down. 2948 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,500 Oh wait, that never came out. 2949 01:34:08,041 --> 01:34:10,291 The order of 1860s 1886. 2950 01:34:12,208 --> 01:34:12,916 I don't think that's 2951 01:34:12,916 --> 01:34:15,125 a, that's a good game. 2952 01:34:15,708 --> 01:34:16,000 Horrible replayability. 2953 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:16,833 Like it's a TV game. It's a replayability. 2954 01:34:16,833 --> 01:34:18,083 Like it's a decent game, but 2955 01:34:18,083 --> 01:34:19,750 it did not get good or claim. 2956 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:20,500 It gets fun. 2957 01:34:21,416 --> 01:34:21,666 I guess. 2958 01:34:22,291 --> 01:34:22,750 Yeah. 2959 01:34:22,750 --> 01:34:23,833 It's also really short too. 2960 01:34:24,666 --> 01:34:25,458 It's very short. 2961 01:34:25,458 --> 01:34:27,166 That's why it didn't do so well. 2962 01:34:27,166 --> 01:34:28,541 And it has no replayability. 2963 01:34:28,916 --> 01:34:31,833 Gravity rush too is on ps4 as well. 2964 01:34:33,666 --> 01:34:34,000 Let's see. 2965 01:34:34,916 --> 01:34:36,625 The kills on shadow fall. 2966 01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:39,541 Man, that they should revisit kills. 2967 01:34:39,541 --> 01:34:39,916 Oh man. 2968 01:34:39,916 --> 01:34:40,666 I kill zone. 2969 01:34:41,166 --> 01:34:42,500 That was a really good game. 2970 01:34:42,666 --> 01:34:45,166 Um, I actually replayed at least the 2971 01:34:45,166 --> 01:34:46,833 beginning portion like a few months ago 2972 01:34:46,833 --> 01:34:48,291 and it's, it's a really good game. 2973 01:34:48,291 --> 01:34:49,000 It really is. 2974 01:34:49,625 --> 01:34:50,875 See the last guardian. 2975 01:34:52,083 --> 01:34:52,416 Okay. 2976 01:34:52,708 --> 01:34:53,666 That's also ps4. 2977 01:34:53,833 --> 01:34:55,166 Uh, what else is there? 2978 01:34:56,625 --> 01:34:57,833 Uh, there's also 2979 01:34:57,833 --> 01:35:00,750 ratcheting clank 2026 2016. 2980 01:35:01,666 --> 01:35:03,375 Isn't that one didn't they release that 2981 01:35:03,375 --> 01:35:09,041 one on this on PC or is that, that's 2982 01:35:09,041 --> 01:35:09,708 the newest part? 2983 01:35:10,833 --> 01:35:11,000 Yeah. 2984 01:35:11,416 --> 01:35:11,708 Yeah. 2985 01:35:11,708 --> 01:35:14,166 So record of grand crest war. 2986 01:35:14,166 --> 01:35:14,708 What is this? 2987 01:35:14,708 --> 01:35:15,916 Oh, it's a light novel series. 2988 01:35:15,916 --> 01:35:16,500 Nevermind. 2989 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:18,750 See shadow, the Colossus, 2990 01:35:18,958 --> 01:35:21,958 the remake is ps4 exclusive. 2991 01:35:22,708 --> 01:35:23,291 You could play the 2992 01:35:23,291 --> 01:35:25,500 original right now on ps2 on PC. 2993 01:35:26,416 --> 01:35:26,625 Yeah. 2994 01:35:27,083 --> 01:35:28,791 That doesn't work very 2995 01:35:28,791 --> 01:35:29,958 well for me on my steam deck. 2996 01:35:30,166 --> 01:35:31,375 I found really. 2997 01:35:31,583 --> 01:35:33,000 So yeah, I tried playing 2998 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:34,666 it and it was like 20 FPS. 2999 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,708 Well, the game is well, the game like on 3000 01:35:36,708 --> 01:35:38,250 ps2 was like 20 FPS. 3001 01:35:38,541 --> 01:35:39,333 It's got like frame. 3002 01:35:39,458 --> 01:35:39,750 Yeah. 3003 01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:40,375 It's got like frame 3004 01:35:40,375 --> 01:35:42,291 rate issues on the ps2. 3005 01:35:43,500 --> 01:35:45,250 So it's not just your Steve Beck. 3006 01:35:45,541 --> 01:35:46,458 Maybe I don't remember 3007 01:35:46,458 --> 01:35:47,666 playing it very well. 3008 01:35:48,125 --> 01:35:49,250 I think it was just a 3009 01:35:49,250 --> 01:35:51,166 direction that they went with it. 3010 01:35:51,166 --> 01:35:51,541 Yeah. 3011 01:35:51,541 --> 01:35:52,708 It felt like it was, 3012 01:35:52,708 --> 01:35:54,208 uh, it lags slightly. 3013 01:35:54,750 --> 01:35:56,000 Maybe that was just a style that they 3014 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:56,750 went with or something. 3015 01:35:56,750 --> 01:35:57,541 It was a little frustrating. 3016 01:35:57,833 --> 01:35:58,958 Well, I don't think it was a style. 3017 01:35:58,958 --> 01:36:00,208 I think it just had performance issues 3018 01:36:00,208 --> 01:36:02,375 because of the giant Colossus's class. 3019 01:36:02,750 --> 01:36:04,791 I call it. 3020 01:36:05,166 --> 01:36:05,541 Yeah, probably. 3021 01:36:06,041 --> 01:36:06,666 I don't know. 3022 01:36:06,666 --> 01:36:07,083 But yeah. 3023 01:36:07,125 --> 01:36:11,083 So yeah, I don't know. 3024 01:36:11,083 --> 01:36:12,875 It just felt like it ran a little slower, 3025 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,208 like just any at any time. 3026 01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:18,000 But yeah, yeah, it is what it is. 3027 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:18,333 Let's see. 3028 01:36:18,541 --> 01:36:20,833 Uncharted the Nathan Drake collection. 3029 01:36:21,041 --> 01:36:21,750 What is this? 3030 01:36:22,458 --> 01:36:23,375 That's on style. 3031 01:36:24,250 --> 01:36:24,916 You can get that one, 3032 01:36:24,916 --> 01:36:25,916 two, one, two and three. 3033 01:36:26,750 --> 01:36:27,000 Yep. 3034 01:36:27,291 --> 01:36:30,250 Uh, I thought that was just for you. 3035 01:36:30,250 --> 01:36:31,666 No, you can get the Nathan Drake 3036 01:36:31,666 --> 01:36:32,541 collection on Steam. 3037 01:36:33,041 --> 01:36:34,291 I have it on steam. 3038 01:36:34,916 --> 01:36:35,166 Yep. 3039 01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:37,208 Is that the whole one, 3040 01:36:37,208 --> 01:36:38,083 two and three though? 3041 01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:40,041 No, you got the legacy of fees 3042 01:36:40,041 --> 01:36:41,666 collection, which is different. 3043 01:36:42,333 --> 01:36:43,000 Oh, is it? 3044 01:36:43,291 --> 01:36:43,500 Yeah. 3045 01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:44,666 Cause that has four 3046 01:36:44,666 --> 01:36:45,916 and the one after four. 3047 01:36:45,916 --> 01:36:47,041 That's what it is. 3048 01:36:47,041 --> 01:36:48,583 One, two and three, which is not on PC 3049 01:36:48,583 --> 01:36:51,041 for some reason, which is. 3050 01:36:51,041 --> 01:36:51,500 Okay. 3051 01:36:52,833 --> 01:36:53,541 Yeah, that's right. 3052 01:36:54,750 --> 01:36:56,250 I always mix those up too, but I knew 3053 01:36:56,250 --> 01:36:59,250 that like, ah, I thought it was called 3054 01:36:59,666 --> 01:37:00,208 something else. 3055 01:37:00,458 --> 01:37:00,625 Okay. 3056 01:37:01,958 --> 01:37:02,208 Yeah. 3057 01:37:02,250 --> 01:37:05,833 So there's a lot like we could probably 3058 01:37:05,833 --> 01:37:07,500 do this along, but there's a lot that 3059 01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:08,708 they've already ported over. 3060 01:37:09,208 --> 01:37:09,416 Yeah. 3061 01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:13,791 So it, this is one of the 3062 01:37:13,791 --> 01:37:15,750 ones that I'm less excited for. 3063 01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:16,958 I'm just glad that they did it though. 3064 01:37:16,958 --> 01:37:17,916 I'm glad that someone's doing it. 3065 01:37:17,916 --> 01:37:18,750 I'm glad that there's an emulator. 3066 01:37:19,166 --> 01:37:20,500 I think this will be good, especially 3067 01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:22,291 down the, like in the future. 3068 01:37:22,291 --> 01:37:22,875 This will definitely 3069 01:37:22,875 --> 01:37:23,875 become more important. 3070 01:37:24,458 --> 01:37:24,708 Yeah. 3071 01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:29,666 Um, but I still want to, I want to 3072 01:37:29,666 --> 01:37:30,833 emulate my Mario 64. 3073 01:37:31,666 --> 01:37:32,000 Oh yeah. 3074 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,291 There's also the, uh, face of the North 3075 01:37:34,291 --> 01:37:36,375 star game on peace on a PS4. 3076 01:37:36,583 --> 01:37:37,625 It's a developed by the 3077 01:37:37,625 --> 01:37:38,958 guys behind the Yakuza games. 3078 01:37:39,958 --> 01:37:41,666 It plays like Yakuza, but it featured, 3079 01:37:41,666 --> 01:37:43,541 but it's like in the face of North star 3080 01:37:43,583 --> 01:37:45,375 universe, you guys, you guys 3081 01:37:45,375 --> 01:37:46,416 ever read that or watch it? 3082 01:37:48,083 --> 01:37:50,000 So it's about a martial art. 3083 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,250 It's about a martial artist and like a 3084 01:37:51,250 --> 01:37:53,375 post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland. 3085 01:37:54,208 --> 01:37:56,041 And he practices a special martial art 3086 01:37:56,041 --> 01:37:57,083 called a Hokuto Shinken. 3087 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,250 And he just makes guys explode by, uh, 3088 01:38:00,250 --> 01:38:01,625 pressing their, pressing their pressure 3089 01:38:01,708 --> 01:38:03,333 points in martial arts fights. 3090 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,000 And it kills a lot of bandits. 3091 01:38:06,125 --> 01:38:06,958 He makes them explode. 3092 01:38:07,333 --> 01:38:08,000 He makes them like 3093 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,083 explode in like gory fashion. 3094 01:38:10,708 --> 01:38:11,291 Sounds fun. 3095 01:38:11,500 --> 01:38:12,583 Sounds like a fun, fun. 3096 01:38:13,291 --> 01:38:13,625 Yeah. 3097 01:38:14,333 --> 01:38:15,833 I was like written in like the eighties, 3098 01:38:15,833 --> 01:38:17,458 I believe it's, it's kind of, 3099 01:38:17,458 --> 01:38:18,208 it's pretty cool though. 3100 01:38:18,375 --> 01:38:20,500 You can watch the anime on like, you can 3101 01:38:20,500 --> 01:38:21,375 watch clips of our YouTube. 3102 01:38:21,666 --> 01:38:22,291 It's kind of fun. 3103 01:38:22,291 --> 01:38:23,250 It's kind of hilarious. 3104 01:38:24,375 --> 01:38:25,416 Exple load. 3105 01:38:26,916 --> 01:38:27,250 Okay. 3106 01:38:28,458 --> 01:38:30,708 They'd be like playing Diablo where it's 3107 01:38:30,708 --> 01:38:31,750 just the enemies explode. 3108 01:38:33,541 --> 01:38:33,750 Yeah. 3109 01:38:33,958 --> 01:38:36,916 So speaking of exploding, Google play is 3110 01:38:36,916 --> 01:38:39,833 fuming with rage at luck be a landlord 3111 01:38:40,291 --> 01:38:42,500 potentially banned on Google play. 3112 01:38:42,791 --> 01:38:43,708 So you guys ever play 3113 01:38:43,708 --> 01:38:45,125 that luck be a landlord? 3114 01:38:46,833 --> 01:38:50,500 So it's a game where you are essentially 3115 01:38:50,500 --> 01:38:53,875 a landlord of sorts, but here's the thing 3116 01:38:53,916 --> 01:38:56,666 though, it features a rule. 3117 01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,500 It features a slot machine. 3118 01:38:59,458 --> 01:39:00,666 It's kind of like launcher when that it 3119 01:39:00,666 --> 01:39:02,000 uses slot machine or like it's 3120 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,041 aesthetic, but there's no actual 3121 01:39:04,041 --> 01:39:05,250 gambling, so to speak. 3122 01:39:07,458 --> 01:39:07,750 Interesting. 3123 01:39:08,208 --> 01:39:10,250 And so the, and so according to the 3124 01:39:10,250 --> 01:39:12,958 develop developers, it says here, your 3125 01:39:13,125 --> 01:39:15,458 apps content that is accessible to 3126 01:39:15,458 --> 01:39:16,000 children must be 3127 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:16,916 appropriate for children. 3128 01:39:16,916 --> 01:39:18,916 Your apps content rating does not take 3129 01:39:18,916 --> 01:39:21,458 into account references to gambling, 3130 01:39:21,708 --> 01:39:24,208 including real or simulated gambling that 3131 01:39:24,208 --> 01:39:25,666 appears in your app. 3132 01:39:28,333 --> 01:39:28,625 Interesting. 3133 01:39:29,416 --> 01:39:31,916 I feel like, I feel like a slot machine 3134 01:39:31,916 --> 01:39:34,458 is like a, like a step 3135 01:39:34,458 --> 01:39:36,250 beyond like gambling. 3136 01:39:36,625 --> 01:39:38,458 Like, I mean, I mean, it is gambling 3137 01:39:38,458 --> 01:39:39,958 whether or not you're 3138 01:39:39,958 --> 01:39:41,375 putting money into it or not. 3139 01:39:42,208 --> 01:39:43,458 Like, and I always thought it was weird 3140 01:39:43,458 --> 01:39:45,791 that like Nintendo added slot machine 3141 01:39:45,791 --> 01:39:48,291 mechanics to fricking super Mario bros. 3142 01:39:48,375 --> 01:39:48,666 Yeah. 3143 01:39:49,791 --> 01:39:50,958 Uh, oh yeah. 3144 01:39:52,291 --> 01:39:52,500 Yeah. 3145 01:39:52,750 --> 01:39:53,833 So you add your own 3146 01:39:53,833 --> 01:39:55,708 symbols to the slot machines. 3147 01:39:55,708 --> 01:39:59,125 It's a rogue, like, okay. 3148 01:40:00,041 --> 01:40:05,416 So it's not quite gambling, but it 3149 01:40:05,416 --> 01:40:06,125 certainly has the 3150 01:40:06,125 --> 01:40:08,500 aesthetics of a slot machine. 3151 01:40:09,833 --> 01:40:10,708 It that's a hard one. 3152 01:40:10,708 --> 01:40:13,250 Cause I don't, I mean poker people, you 3153 01:40:13,250 --> 01:40:14,875 know, I, you can play poker without 3154 01:40:14,875 --> 01:40:16,541 gambling, it's, it's just a card game. 3155 01:40:17,291 --> 01:40:19,916 Yeah. But it does have a lot of like the chips 3156 01:40:19,916 --> 01:40:21,958 and everything like that do symbolize it. 3157 01:40:22,083 --> 01:40:24,625 So this is a part part 3158 01:40:24,625 --> 01:40:25,458 we're starting to blur. 3159 01:40:25,666 --> 01:40:30,000 Like if you pull a lever and like, it's 3160 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,375 like a slot machine and then things 3161 01:40:31,375 --> 01:40:32,833 start to move like a slot machine. 3162 01:40:33,541 --> 01:40:35,375 At what point are you training someone to 3163 01:40:35,375 --> 01:40:36,291 then want to use it? 3164 01:40:36,291 --> 01:40:37,375 An actual slot machine. 3165 01:40:38,166 --> 01:40:42,125 In my opinion, this like doing the poll. 3166 01:40:42,458 --> 01:40:42,833 Oh my God. 3167 01:40:43,291 --> 01:40:44,208 Doing something like this. 3168 01:40:44,250 --> 01:40:45,458 The scroll down to refresh 3169 01:40:45,458 --> 01:40:47,333 is gambling in my opinion. 3170 01:40:47,666 --> 01:40:49,500 Like I take a hard stance on that. 3171 01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:51,625 Like the pull, the swipe to refresh is 3172 01:40:51,625 --> 01:40:53,000 designed as a dark 3173 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,333 pattern to like keep you 3174 01:40:54,333 --> 01:40:54,666 addicted. 3175 01:40:55,291 --> 01:40:57,791 And I think that I'm not saying that this 3176 01:40:57,791 --> 01:41:00,041 guy did that intentionally or anything, 3177 01:41:00,041 --> 01:41:02,166 but like, I think that there's a huge 3178 01:41:02,166 --> 01:41:04,583 difference between like virtual poker 3179 01:41:04,708 --> 01:41:06,291 where you're not putting any money at 3180 01:41:06,291 --> 01:41:10,458 stake and like a slot machine, like an 3181 01:41:10,458 --> 01:41:11,750 actual slot machine in the game. 3182 01:41:12,083 --> 01:41:14,791 I can see that being a bridge too far. 3183 01:41:14,916 --> 01:41:17,875 Yeah, it is unfortunate because this game 3184 01:41:17,875 --> 01:41:19,541 doesn't feature any real gambling. 3185 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:20,250 Yeah. 3186 01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:22,583 Like say, I don't know, your, your, your 3187 01:41:22,583 --> 01:41:24,875 average gotcha game on Google play. 3188 01:41:25,583 --> 01:41:25,791 Right. 3189 01:41:26,333 --> 01:41:27,708 But I mean, I guess it is. 3190 01:41:27,958 --> 01:41:29,875 I mean, what, let me see 3191 01:41:29,875 --> 01:41:31,125 what this game is rated on. 3192 01:41:31,125 --> 01:41:31,833 Uh, there's a rate. 3193 01:41:31,958 --> 01:41:34,166 Yeah. It's going to like, can they change the 3194 01:41:34,166 --> 01:41:35,916 rating on it and not have it be banned? 3195 01:41:36,125 --> 01:41:37,541 Like, I think they could. 3196 01:41:38,666 --> 01:41:38,833 Yeah. 3197 01:41:38,833 --> 01:41:39,083 Okay. 3198 01:41:39,083 --> 01:41:40,166 That's and then it's 3199 01:41:40,166 --> 01:41:41,333 rated E 10 for everyone. 3200 01:41:41,708 --> 01:41:44,333 For E 10 and gambling themes. 3201 01:41:45,791 --> 01:41:47,875 Is that from ESRB or is that like the 3202 01:41:47,875 --> 01:41:50,666 stupid, um, like automated thing from 3203 01:41:50,666 --> 01:41:51,000 Google? 3204 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:52,791 It's probably, I think it looks like it 3205 01:41:52,791 --> 01:41:54,000 looks like it's a Google thing, but let 3206 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,041 me look at the ESRB 3207 01:41:55,041 --> 01:41:56,166 rating while I'm at it. 3208 01:41:56,791 --> 01:41:59,333 So wait, they went the route and even 3209 01:41:59,333 --> 01:42:00,666 included that said that there's 3210 01:42:00,833 --> 01:42:03,500 gambling themes in it and it's rated E 10 3211 01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:04,750 and they still want to ban it. 3212 01:42:04,750 --> 01:42:05,333 That's crazy. 3213 01:42:05,916 --> 01:42:07,166 And I'll call references too. 3214 01:42:08,416 --> 01:42:09,208 Well, here's the deal. 3215 01:42:09,625 --> 01:42:10,333 I have you ever 3216 01:42:10,333 --> 01:42:12,750 published a game on Google play. 3217 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,291 I've published a few apps and 3218 01:42:14,291 --> 01:42:15,708 they it's a similar process. 3219 01:42:16,250 --> 01:42:16,458 Okay. 3220 01:42:16,958 --> 01:42:19,083 For games specifically, I believe they, 3221 01:42:19,083 --> 01:42:22,541 they have a rating system, but you have 3222 01:42:22,541 --> 01:42:24,041 to get an ESRB rating. 3223 01:42:24,625 --> 01:42:27,583 And so when I posted dude links, I had to 3224 01:42:27,583 --> 01:42:29,083 like fill out this long questionnaire 3225 01:42:29,708 --> 01:42:31,625 that was like, does this, does your game 3226 01:42:31,625 --> 01:42:33,041 have like drug references? 3227 01:42:33,041 --> 01:42:33,666 Does your game have 3228 01:42:33,666 --> 01:42:34,625 this is there violence? 3229 01:42:34,958 --> 01:42:36,666 If there's violence, is it cartoonish? 3230 01:42:36,666 --> 01:42:38,083 Is it, is it real or, 3231 01:42:38,083 --> 01:42:39,083 or simulated violence? 3232 01:42:39,958 --> 01:42:41,291 And so I went through this whole thing 3233 01:42:41,291 --> 01:42:42,583 and then I just got 3234 01:42:42,583 --> 01:42:43,541 slapped with a rating. 3235 01:42:43,625 --> 01:42:45,166 Like I didn't have to submit 3236 01:42:45,166 --> 01:42:47,125 my game to any rating board. 3237 01:42:47,500 --> 01:42:49,166 It just got a rate. 3238 01:42:49,166 --> 01:42:51,208 It wasn't an ESRB. 3239 01:42:51,208 --> 01:42:52,458 It's an ESRB rating. 3240 01:42:52,458 --> 01:42:54,291 I'm pretty, I'm almost a hundred percent. 3241 01:42:54,375 --> 01:42:57,333 I've gone through that for, um, a game 3242 01:42:57,333 --> 01:43:00,583 app, but I didn't realize it was ESRB. 3243 01:43:00,583 --> 01:43:01,375 Like I've gone through that. 3244 01:43:01,375 --> 01:43:02,583 I know what you're talking about exactly. 3245 01:43:04,458 --> 01:43:05,458 And they're pretty strict 3246 01:43:05,458 --> 01:43:06,916 with that type of stuff too. 3247 01:43:07,708 --> 01:43:08,416 I didn't, I don't see. 3248 01:43:08,750 --> 01:43:11,791 On the ESRB, uh, it might not be, I'm 3249 01:43:11,791 --> 01:43:13,583 sorry, but I, it's similar. 3250 01:43:13,875 --> 01:43:15,250 The whole, the whole rating process was 3251 01:43:15,250 --> 01:43:17,750 just like a load of baloney. 3252 01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:19,083 Cause I didn't submit it to anybody. 3253 01:43:19,333 --> 01:43:20,750 It just came up with, yeah. 3254 01:43:20,750 --> 01:43:22,625 Cause I'm pretty sure like you have to 3255 01:43:22,625 --> 01:43:24,583 send your game to the actual ESRB to get 3256 01:43:24,583 --> 01:43:25,750 like an official rating to 3257 01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:27,458 make sure you can do from ESRB. 3258 01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:27,958 Yeah. 3259 01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:29,000 How are they, how are 3260 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,208 they using E10 plus? 3261 01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:33,333 I feel like that would be copyrighted. 3262 01:43:34,291 --> 01:43:35,958 Duh, I hate it if that's copyrighted. 3263 01:43:36,375 --> 01:43:38,000 It doesn't look like, like there's no 3264 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,041 ESRB logo on the rating itself. 3265 01:43:40,416 --> 01:43:42,416 No, I'm sure that's whatever. 3266 01:43:42,666 --> 01:43:44,291 I guess I, okay. 3267 01:43:44,291 --> 01:43:44,500 Whenever. 3268 01:43:44,875 --> 01:43:45,041 Yeah. 3269 01:43:45,333 --> 01:43:46,666 It's let's look, let's 3270 01:43:46,666 --> 01:43:47,666 look at a gotcha game. 3271 01:43:48,041 --> 01:43:48,958 Let's look at a game. 3272 01:43:50,416 --> 01:43:51,583 Oh, Hey, we have a game here. 3273 01:43:51,583 --> 01:43:55,041 Blue archive is rated M 17 plus for 3274 01:43:55,041 --> 01:43:56,916 blood, sexual themes and violence. 3275 01:43:58,166 --> 01:44:00,083 The, the, that rating system, I feel like 3276 01:44:00,083 --> 01:44:00,875 it's pretty sensitive. 3277 01:44:01,250 --> 01:44:04,250 I, when I went through it, like I tried 3278 01:44:04,250 --> 01:44:05,916 it for a game I was going to release and 3279 01:44:05,958 --> 01:44:11,333 I just didn't, and Hey, just a few ticks 3280 01:44:11,333 --> 01:44:13,791 will make it go from everyone to mature. 3281 01:44:14,750 --> 01:44:16,250 Just a little bit of checks that is just 3282 01:44:16,250 --> 01:44:17,000 a little bit of checks. 3283 01:44:17,125 --> 01:44:19,041 We'll really quickly make that go. 3284 01:44:20,166 --> 01:44:22,500 Um, as far as like gambling aesthetics, 3285 01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:23,708 like what we're talking about, 3286 01:44:23,875 --> 01:44:26,791 uh, I mean, if it's clearly a slot 3287 01:44:26,791 --> 01:44:30,000 machine, um, and really mimics that hard, 3288 01:44:30,208 --> 01:44:32,583 then I could see, I, I'd probably rate it 3289 01:44:32,583 --> 01:44:35,125 more in the teens, maybe even mature. 3290 01:44:36,541 --> 01:44:38,375 Cause I mean, I 3291 01:44:38,375 --> 01:44:39,250 wouldn't be opposed to it. 3292 01:44:39,250 --> 01:44:40,625 And I would hope the developers and the 3293 01:44:40,625 --> 01:44:41,125 poster would either. 3294 01:44:41,500 --> 01:44:43,958 I mean, there's not like an ID check when 3295 01:44:43,958 --> 01:44:46,125 they, it's not like Google checks your 3296 01:44:46,125 --> 01:44:49,041 ID when you buy like an M rated game over 3297 01:44:49,041 --> 01:44:49,708 there, it's not like, 3298 01:44:50,208 --> 01:44:53,083 no, but they can also 3299 01:44:53,291 --> 01:44:54,875 like, there's, there's reasons why they 3300 01:44:54,875 --> 01:44:56,166 have the rating system there because they 3301 01:44:56,166 --> 01:44:57,750 can get in trouble if they're exposing 3302 01:44:57,750 --> 01:45:01,000 too many people to, I don't know. 3303 01:45:01,750 --> 01:45:02,708 I think it's weird that 3304 01:45:02,708 --> 01:45:03,458 they banned them though. 3305 01:45:03,500 --> 01:45:07,375 They usually send, um, uh, they usually 3306 01:45:07,375 --> 01:45:08,916 send warnings and stuff like that. 3307 01:45:10,041 --> 01:45:10,500 Especially if it's a 3308 01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:13,416 bigger title in the past. 3309 01:45:13,791 --> 01:45:14,250 Yeah. 3310 01:45:14,250 --> 01:45:15,416 And so, yeah, I don't, I don't 3311 01:45:15,416 --> 01:45:17,125 know what they do these days. 3312 01:45:18,791 --> 01:45:22,583 So apparently they've, uh, so apparently 3313 01:45:22,583 --> 01:45:24,250 they did change it and they did put the 3314 01:45:24,250 --> 01:45:26,541 game back up with the gambling themes, 3315 01:45:26,791 --> 01:45:28,625 with, uh, give the gambling themes now. 3316 01:45:28,625 --> 01:45:31,000 But I guess it's whatever they had to 3317 01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,083 fill out the age 3318 01:45:32,083 --> 01:45:33,041 requirement questionnaire 3319 01:45:33,333 --> 01:45:35,000 and they had to like essentially say that 3320 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,041 the game contains gambling. 3321 01:45:38,375 --> 01:45:39,291 They didn't do that before. 3322 01:45:39,541 --> 01:45:40,208 I guess not. 3323 01:45:40,208 --> 01:45:40,416 Yeah. 3324 01:45:41,333 --> 01:45:42,125 That's that's going to, oh yeah. 3325 01:45:42,333 --> 01:45:42,666 Oh yeah. 3326 01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:43,875 That's going to knock you. 3327 01:45:43,875 --> 01:45:44,291 You got it. 3328 01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:45,250 You there. 3329 01:45:45,666 --> 01:45:46,666 It luck be a landlord 3330 01:45:46,666 --> 01:45:48,333 is at fault on this one. 3331 01:45:48,333 --> 01:45:50,208 Um, their rating system 3332 01:45:50,208 --> 01:45:51,708 is pretty explicit on this. 3333 01:45:52,583 --> 01:45:58,041 I just went to, uh, my game, uh, on 3334 01:45:58,041 --> 01:46:00,500 Google play from a, 3335 01:46:00,500 --> 01:46:05,000 uh, a, a, uh, VPN through 3336 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,708 a VPN in Korea, and it changed my rating 3337 01:46:08,708 --> 01:46:12,041 to a seven rather than an E 10 plus. 3338 01:46:12,583 --> 01:46:13,000 Yeah. 3339 01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:14,875 And so it looks like Google's rating 3340 01:46:14,875 --> 01:46:16,833 system, like we'll 3341 01:46:16,833 --> 01:46:17,625 convert it into whatever 3342 01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:19,375 your locale, uh, 3343 01:46:19,625 --> 01:46:22,416 native, uh, rating system is. 3344 01:46:22,916 --> 01:46:23,666 You should see him. 3345 01:46:23,666 --> 01:46:25,166 So he rated at 18 plus. 3346 01:46:27,416 --> 01:46:27,708 Yeah. 3347 01:46:28,125 --> 01:46:30,208 I'm sure that they have like a scale 3348 01:46:30,208 --> 01:46:32,041 depending on where they're at that rates. 3349 01:46:33,250 --> 01:46:36,083 But like, they probably have like lawyers 3350 01:46:36,083 --> 01:46:37,625 and stuff that help with that too. 3351 01:46:37,625 --> 01:46:39,833 And so, I guess that makes sense. 3352 01:46:40,375 --> 01:46:40,583 Yeah. 3353 01:46:42,666 --> 01:46:43,000 Interesting. 3354 01:46:43,625 --> 01:46:45,333 So you partially that's so that they can 3355 01:46:45,333 --> 01:46:47,000 keep their own rating system and not get, 3356 01:46:47,541 --> 01:46:49,708 uh, overruled by 3357 01:46:49,708 --> 01:46:51,291 governments and stuff like that. 3358 01:46:51,291 --> 01:46:52,166 They're trying to play nice 3359 01:46:52,166 --> 01:46:53,583 so they don't get taken over. 3360 01:46:54,041 --> 01:46:54,250 Yeah. 3361 01:46:54,583 --> 01:46:57,041 So speaking of capitalism, you guys ever 3362 01:46:57,041 --> 01:46:58,166 heard of a gig called recent here? 3363 01:46:59,250 --> 01:46:59,416 No. 3364 01:47:00,416 --> 01:47:03,000 So it's an old, it's like, it's like an 3365 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:04,583 older game at this point, but essentially 3366 01:47:04,583 --> 01:47:07,458 it was a game released in 2007 in Japan. 3367 01:47:08,541 --> 01:47:10,750 You essentially take the role of a, uh, a 3368 01:47:10,750 --> 01:47:12,541 shopkeeper that also has to go into like 3369 01:47:12,541 --> 01:47:14,458 a dungeon to get loot to sell in your 3370 01:47:14,458 --> 01:47:15,791 done into selling your shop. 3371 01:47:17,708 --> 01:47:20,000 And it's getting a, uh, it's getting a 3372 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:23,333 remaster in the year of 2025, which 3373 01:47:23,333 --> 01:47:24,333 I think is pretty crazy. 3374 01:47:24,666 --> 01:47:26,583 I've even attached some memes and we've 3375 01:47:26,583 --> 01:47:27,625 even had some memes too. 3376 01:47:28,666 --> 01:47:29,041 Nice. 3377 01:47:29,791 --> 01:47:32,958 But, uh, it's one of the most arguably 3378 01:47:32,958 --> 01:47:34,958 one of the more influential like games 3379 01:47:34,958 --> 01:47:37,500 that it's like every, like you've seen a 3380 01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:39,041 bunch of games, the indie games these 3381 01:47:39,041 --> 01:47:42,416 days try to balance between like a shop, 3382 01:47:42,416 --> 01:47:44,666 cozy shop, aesthetic, and like a 3383 01:47:44,666 --> 01:47:46,083 hardcore dungeon crawler, right? 3384 01:47:46,916 --> 01:47:48,500 Like we've seen that with, uh, 3385 01:47:48,500 --> 01:47:51,458 moonlighter and whatnot. 3386 01:47:51,458 --> 01:47:52,208 I haven't played anything 3387 01:47:52,208 --> 01:47:53,500 like it, but I've seen it. 3388 01:47:53,500 --> 01:47:53,666 Yeah. 3389 01:47:54,250 --> 01:47:54,500 Yeah. 3390 01:47:54,500 --> 01:47:55,916 So it's kind of basically like that. 3391 01:47:57,208 --> 01:47:59,583 Except a lot of people argue that this 3392 01:47:59,583 --> 01:48:00,625 game is a lot better than moonlight. 3393 01:48:00,625 --> 01:48:01,583 I haven't played moonlighter though, to 3394 01:48:01,583 --> 01:48:06,166 be honest, but it's an older game. 3395 01:48:06,833 --> 01:48:08,000 And it says, it does catch 3396 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,708 phrases like capitalism ho. 3397 01:48:09,958 --> 01:48:20,291 Oh, translation man are always so funny. 3398 01:48:21,041 --> 01:48:21,250 Yeah. 3399 01:48:22,125 --> 01:48:22,583 Yeah. 3400 01:48:22,583 --> 01:48:24,666 It's the most capitalist game ever, 3401 01:48:25,125 --> 01:48:25,958 potentially the 3402 01:48:25,958 --> 01:48:28,083 antithesis to disco lesion. 3403 01:48:29,958 --> 01:48:31,166 I thought, I thought it was pretty funny 3404 01:48:31,166 --> 01:48:34,125 because a lot of games are trying to be 3405 01:48:34,125 --> 01:48:36,166 this game, but they, I don't know. 3406 01:48:36,166 --> 01:48:37,041 There's something about this 3407 01:48:37,041 --> 01:48:38,166 that just makes it timeless. 3408 01:48:40,875 --> 01:48:42,875 It, it looks interesting. 3409 01:48:43,125 --> 01:48:45,625 Uh, so is it going to be on what's the HD 3410 01:48:45,625 --> 01:48:46,666 remaster going to be on? 3411 01:48:47,541 --> 01:48:49,208 Uh, we don't know anything about it 3412 01:48:49,208 --> 01:48:51,041 besides the fact that was it on before? 3413 01:48:51,500 --> 01:48:52,375 I don't know. 3414 01:48:52,375 --> 01:48:52,583 Really. 3415 01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:53,958 Was it on PC before? 3416 01:48:53,958 --> 01:48:54,958 So it most likely be on steam. 3417 01:48:55,666 --> 01:48:55,916 Okay. 3418 01:48:56,291 --> 01:48:56,500 Yeah. 3419 01:48:56,500 --> 01:48:57,875 They released, they did release on steam, 3420 01:48:57,875 --> 01:48:59,833 uh, steam like back in, it's like one of 3421 01:48:59,833 --> 01:49:01,291 the first non-triple a 3422 01:49:01,291 --> 01:49:04,458 games games on steam. 3423 01:49:04,458 --> 01:49:04,666 Yeah. 3424 01:49:04,666 --> 01:49:06,750 See, I, I do not know 3425 01:49:06,750 --> 01:49:07,833 anything about this game. 3426 01:49:08,375 --> 01:49:08,458 Hmm. 3427 01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:10,500 You should play it. 3428 01:49:10,500 --> 01:49:11,416 It's a lot of fun. 3429 01:49:12,208 --> 01:49:12,791 Oh, there's a demo. 3430 01:49:13,791 --> 01:49:14,708 This is the remake though. 3431 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:16,375 No, this is the original. 3432 01:49:18,791 --> 01:49:18,958 Yeah. 3433 01:49:20,708 --> 01:49:21,208 Oh, you know what? 3434 01:49:21,208 --> 01:49:22,083 This actually looks kind of fun. 3435 01:49:23,458 --> 01:49:24,916 I think I have actually seen this. 3436 01:49:24,916 --> 01:49:26,083 It's just been so long. 3437 01:49:27,291 --> 01:49:27,541 Yeah. 3438 01:49:27,541 --> 01:49:28,250 There's, yeah. 3439 01:49:29,041 --> 01:49:29,541 I don't know. 3440 01:49:29,541 --> 01:49:30,541 It's, it's been a long time 3441 01:49:30,541 --> 01:49:32,583 since this game like cannot. 3442 01:49:34,375 --> 01:49:36,291 I think when it comes with the remake, if 3443 01:49:36,291 --> 01:49:38,750 it, uh, with the HD remaster, that is, as 3444 01:49:38,750 --> 01:49:40,583 long as the steam deck, uh, I might play 3445 01:49:40,583 --> 01:49:41,833 it on the steam deck. 3446 01:49:42,500 --> 01:49:44,000 It's always been like 18 years since this 3447 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:45,916 game came out in 2007. 3448 01:49:46,291 --> 01:49:46,958 That's crazy. 3449 01:49:49,166 --> 01:49:49,916 I can definitely see that 3450 01:49:49,916 --> 01:49:51,541 justifying an HD remaster. 3451 01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:55,208 Yeah. 3452 01:49:56,166 --> 01:49:56,833 That's interesting. 3453 01:49:57,916 --> 01:49:59,958 There's a lot of, we're going to be 3454 01:49:59,958 --> 01:50:00,625 getting so many more 3455 01:50:00,625 --> 01:50:01,750 HD remasters of stuff. 3456 01:50:02,083 --> 01:50:05,458 I'm surprised we are not getting one of 3457 01:50:05,458 --> 01:50:08,000 like PlayStation five games yet. 3458 01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,333 They're starting to do them so soon. 3459 01:50:09,625 --> 01:50:10,625 So this is nice to see like an 3460 01:50:10,625 --> 01:50:12,416 older game actually get this. 3461 01:50:12,916 --> 01:50:13,458 Oh yeah. 3462 01:50:14,791 --> 01:50:19,291 So hopefully you're okay with me adding a 3463 01:50:19,291 --> 01:50:20,458 new topic at the end of this 3464 01:50:20,458 --> 01:50:21,583 because it's a new year. 3465 01:50:22,166 --> 01:50:23,500 Oh yeah. 3466 01:50:23,500 --> 01:50:25,541 I'm really curious with you guys, what 3467 01:50:25,541 --> 01:50:27,166 you guys are, uh, what your guys' 3468 01:50:27,166 --> 01:50:28,291 plans are for 2025. 3469 01:50:29,166 --> 01:50:31,166 It could be either like, I'm going to be trying to play it like 3470 01:50:31,250 --> 01:50:34,458 beat a game every month is one of my like 3471 01:50:34,458 --> 01:50:37,000 gaming, uh, resolutions. 3472 01:50:37,666 --> 01:50:40,125 Not everyone does a resolution, but I 3473 01:50:40,125 --> 01:50:41,750 need to start beating more games. 3474 01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:43,750 I've been playing a lot, but I haven't 3475 01:50:43,750 --> 01:50:44,833 been finishing it and it's not 3476 01:50:44,833 --> 01:50:46,500 been very satisfying as a gamer. 3477 01:50:47,458 --> 01:50:48,875 Yeah. 3478 01:50:48,875 --> 01:50:50,208 I mean, it sounds about right. 3479 01:50:50,458 --> 01:50:51,833 That's, that's what I want to do too. 3480 01:50:53,583 --> 01:50:55,791 Even if it's just one game I beat and 3481 01:50:55,791 --> 01:50:57,416 it's something that's like a five hour 3482 01:50:57,416 --> 01:50:59,000 game, I just want to start beating some 3483 01:50:59,000 --> 01:50:59,958 more games, especially in my backlog. 3484 01:51:00,791 --> 01:51:03,166 It feels good. 3485 01:51:03,875 --> 01:51:04,666 Let's just say that it feels 3486 01:51:04,666 --> 01:51:05,708 good to complete something. 3487 01:51:06,541 --> 01:51:06,750 Yeah. 3488 01:51:08,041 --> 01:51:11,916 So for 2025, I want to get a chest mass 3489 01:51:11,916 --> 01:51:13,500 finished and out the door. 3490 01:51:14,666 --> 01:51:16,875 Uh, that's my goal. 3491 01:51:17,458 --> 01:51:18,541 That's a good goal. 3492 01:51:18,541 --> 01:51:19,583 Are you pretty close on that? 3493 01:51:22,375 --> 01:51:23,958 I like to think that I am. 3494 01:51:24,666 --> 01:51:26,041 I have, okay. 3495 01:51:26,041 --> 01:51:28,041 So like I added some mechanics to the 3496 01:51:28,041 --> 01:51:28,666 game recently that has a 3497 01:51:28,708 --> 01:51:30,083 recently that have 3498 01:51:30,083 --> 01:51:32,833 really made it a lot more fun. 3499 01:51:33,833 --> 01:51:35,958 Um, which I'm really excited about. 3500 01:51:36,625 --> 01:51:38,916 Uh, and, but really I think the biggest 3501 01:51:38,916 --> 01:51:40,083 thing is like, I'm done with 3502 01:51:40,125 --> 01:51:41,666 mechanics and I just need to 3503 01:51:41,666 --> 01:51:43,500 finish like the art and polish. 3504 01:51:44,666 --> 01:51:47,875 Um, I probably have, if I were to like, 3505 01:51:47,875 --> 01:51:49,541 just buckle down and just work on that 3506 01:51:49,666 --> 01:51:51,208 exclusively, I'd probably have a couple 3507 01:51:51,208 --> 01:51:53,416 months left, but you know, 3508 01:51:53,833 --> 01:51:55,000 realities being what they are. 3509 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,166 I don't think I can afford to do that. 3510 01:51:57,375 --> 01:51:57,625 Yeah. 3511 01:51:58,250 --> 01:51:59,458 Less life service games, 3512 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:03,250 more, uh, games I can beat per se. 3513 01:52:04,208 --> 01:52:06,791 Cause I mean, inevitably, I mean like the 3514 01:52:06,791 --> 01:52:07,958 one life service game I played 3515 01:52:07,958 --> 01:52:09,250 a lot was destiny too. 3516 01:52:09,250 --> 01:52:10,791 And I think at that point we, I got a 3517 01:52:10,791 --> 01:52:13,458 sense of finality out of that. 3518 01:52:13,875 --> 01:52:16,083 I like, cause like the main story arc 3519 01:52:16,083 --> 01:52:18,083 that was with us for like 10 years or so 3520 01:52:18,083 --> 01:52:19,541 is gone is done now. 3521 01:52:20,083 --> 01:52:21,708 So I don't see much 3522 01:52:21,708 --> 01:52:22,791 else left for me there. 3523 01:52:23,375 --> 01:52:25,541 And, uh, I mean, Hey, 3524 01:52:26,541 --> 01:52:27,541 start beating games again. 3525 01:52:28,291 --> 01:52:29,625 Not, not the whole haven't been being 3526 01:52:29,625 --> 01:52:32,625 games, but like a lot more of them, you 3527 01:52:32,625 --> 01:52:34,750 know, I haven't been, I've been getting 3528 01:52:34,750 --> 01:52:36,583 like halfway through games and I'm not 3529 01:52:36,583 --> 01:52:38,416 usually like that with, with games. 3530 01:52:38,416 --> 01:52:40,000 I really like, I usually finished them 3531 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,791 and I have not been like that, uh, this 3532 01:52:42,791 --> 01:52:44,166 past year, which is crazy. 3533 01:52:44,750 --> 01:52:47,500 So like Baldur's gate three, 3534 01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:48,541 I would like to finish that. 3535 01:52:49,250 --> 01:52:50,791 Um, it's really fun game. 3536 01:52:51,083 --> 01:52:52,666 Not my usually the type of game I'd play. 3537 01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:54,375 Like I didn't really care for the older 3538 01:52:54,375 --> 01:52:56,000 Baldur gates, but the new one is pretty 3539 01:52:56,083 --> 01:53:00,708 good, but yeah, there's, there's just, I 3540 01:53:00,708 --> 01:53:02,958 like to finish some stuff like that on 3541 01:53:02,958 --> 01:53:05,458 top of that, like I'm gonna, I don't 3542 01:53:05,458 --> 01:53:06,000 think I'm going to be 3543 01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:06,875 able to finish the game 3544 01:53:06,875 --> 01:53:07,750 I'm working on this year. 3545 01:53:07,958 --> 01:53:09,666 It's going to be, uh, this year's going 3546 01:53:09,666 --> 01:53:11,166 to be like a big discovery for the game 3547 01:53:11,166 --> 01:53:12,666 I'm working on in the sense of like 3548 01:53:12,666 --> 01:53:15,083 finalizing the style and stuff, but not 3549 01:53:15,458 --> 01:53:16,916 like, I'm not going to be flushing out 3550 01:53:16,916 --> 01:53:19,375 more than just the first level or two 3551 01:53:19,708 --> 01:53:21,666 until I feel like it's in a good place. 3552 01:53:22,833 --> 01:53:24,041 So beyond that. 3553 01:53:25,041 --> 01:53:28,333 Uh, yeah, like content wise games 3554 01:53:28,333 --> 01:53:29,125 revealed, I'll put, 3555 01:53:29,125 --> 01:53:29,583 I'm going to be working 3556 01:53:29,583 --> 01:53:30,583 on my website a lot more. 3557 01:53:30,916 --> 01:53:32,208 I have like a couple of cool things 3558 01:53:32,208 --> 01:53:33,000 coming out for that. 3559 01:53:33,541 --> 01:53:35,416 That'll be fun, but yeah. 3560 01:53:36,458 --> 01:53:36,708 Nice. 3561 01:53:36,708 --> 01:53:37,541 It's going to be a fun year. 3562 01:53:37,541 --> 01:53:38,166 It's going to be a fun year. 3563 01:53:38,166 --> 01:53:41,750 I always, I always like using the new 3564 01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:43,166 year as a look, kind of a, feel like a 3565 01:53:43,166 --> 01:53:45,333 reset of like, what did I mess up on? 3566 01:53:45,333 --> 01:53:46,708 And what can I kind of feel 3567 01:53:46,708 --> 01:53:48,625 like I can do more of this year? 3568 01:53:48,625 --> 01:53:48,750 Yeah. 3569 01:53:49,291 --> 01:53:49,500 Yeah. 3570 01:53:50,125 --> 01:53:52,875 I just came up with like an art style for 3571 01:53:52,875 --> 01:53:55,583 the card, the mechanic and in chest 3572 01:53:55,583 --> 01:53:58,125 mass, so I've been working on getting 3573 01:53:58,125 --> 01:54:00,875 those, uh, getting some of those done. 3574 01:54:01,875 --> 01:54:04,875 Um, but yeah, the big limiting factor 3575 01:54:04,875 --> 01:54:06,958 with the, with the, is 3576 01:54:06,958 --> 01:54:08,000 going to be doing the art. 3577 01:54:08,166 --> 01:54:09,666 I'm not really a great artist. 3578 01:54:09,708 --> 01:54:11,875 So I don't know. 3579 01:54:11,875 --> 01:54:14,041 I've been really struggling to find an 3580 01:54:14,041 --> 01:54:14,916 art style that works 3581 01:54:14,916 --> 01:54:16,250 that I can actually execute. 3582 01:54:19,041 --> 01:54:23,208 So when is the friends and family, uh, 3583 01:54:23,208 --> 01:54:24,291 play test going to happen? 3584 01:54:24,916 --> 01:54:26,041 And when are we going to get it? 3585 01:54:26,041 --> 01:54:27,041 One for chest mass? 3586 01:54:27,166 --> 01:54:27,541 Yeah. 3587 01:54:28,708 --> 01:54:30,500 If you want to play it. 3588 01:54:30,500 --> 01:54:31,166 No, I'll play it. 3589 01:54:31,375 --> 01:54:33,458 No, the reason I asked like, is it once 3590 01:54:33,458 --> 01:54:34,291 it's going to hit gold, 3591 01:54:35,708 --> 01:54:36,625 but I do, I do want to 3592 01:54:36,625 --> 01:54:37,250 play it. 3593 01:54:37,416 --> 01:54:37,583 Yeah. 3594 01:54:37,791 --> 01:54:38,458 I'll try that too. 3595 01:54:38,708 --> 01:54:39,791 It's like a, it's like a 3596 01:54:39,791 --> 01:54:40,875 chess rogue, like, right? 3597 01:54:42,083 --> 01:54:42,291 Yeah. 3598 01:54:42,583 --> 01:54:42,791 Yeah. 3599 01:54:43,166 --> 01:54:43,916 It's a chess. 3600 01:54:44,541 --> 01:54:45,625 Um, it's like a strive 3601 01:54:45,625 --> 01:54:47,041 strategy puzzle game. 3602 01:54:47,583 --> 01:54:49,708 So, uh, with rogue like elements. 3603 01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,041 So the board, there's a, like a standard 3604 01:54:53,041 --> 01:54:54,833 size chess board at the 3605 01:54:54,833 --> 01:54:55,666 beginning of each level. 3606 01:54:55,958 --> 01:54:58,416 And you have to control both the red and 3607 01:54:58,416 --> 01:55:01,291 the black pieces to earn enough points to 3608 01:55:01,333 --> 01:55:03,458 spawn the King, and then you have to use 3609 01:55:03,458 --> 01:55:05,375 whatever pieces you have left to capture 3610 01:55:05,375 --> 01:55:05,833 the King. 3611 01:55:06,583 --> 01:55:08,833 Um, it's really fun. 3612 01:55:10,041 --> 01:55:12,125 And I will send you guys keys right now. 3613 01:55:12,791 --> 01:55:13,208 Do it. 3614 01:55:13,375 --> 01:55:13,708 Do it. 3615 01:55:13,708 --> 01:55:15,125 I'll play it. 3616 01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:16,458 How's, uh, 3617 01:55:17,458 --> 01:55:19,791 and your website and everything doing any 3618 01:55:19,791 --> 01:55:22,208 cool new, uh, updates to your website. 3619 01:55:24,375 --> 01:55:25,541 Updates to my, I'm 3620 01:55:25,541 --> 01:55:27,000 constantly updating my website. 3621 01:55:27,500 --> 01:55:31,541 I actually just added a feature in chess 3622 01:55:31,541 --> 01:55:35,541 mess that lets you like play a daily seed 3623 01:55:36,041 --> 01:55:38,125 with a leaderboard for that seed. 3624 01:55:38,416 --> 01:55:39,666 And my website is 3625 01:55:39,666 --> 01:55:40,875 controlling that leaderboard. 3626 01:55:41,125 --> 01:55:44,791 Oh, so, uh, if you, if someone plays it 3627 01:55:44,791 --> 01:55:47,083 right now, and then they go 3628 01:55:47,125 --> 01:55:47,958 to the website, you can 3629 01:55:47,958 --> 01:55:50,208 actually see a listing of the top. 3630 01:55:50,916 --> 01:55:53,000 It's not a hundred percent working yet 3631 01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,791 because it's not ranking properly, but 3632 01:55:54,791 --> 01:55:56,125 it shows you the daily seed 3633 01:55:56,125 --> 01:55:57,416 and it ranks them properly. 3634 01:55:58,708 --> 01:56:00,875 Um, okay. 3635 01:56:01,583 --> 01:56:01,916 That's cool. 3636 01:56:02,458 --> 01:56:02,875 Yeah. 3637 01:56:03,375 --> 01:56:04,500 I do like, I do actually 3638 01:56:04,500 --> 01:56:05,666 like that is a cool feature. 3639 01:56:05,666 --> 01:56:06,833 I'm really curious to see it all. 3640 01:56:07,041 --> 01:56:08,750 I have to see it play out. 3641 01:56:08,958 --> 01:56:09,666 I'm having a hard time 3642 01:56:09,666 --> 01:56:11,333 managing, uh, imagining this. 3643 01:56:11,708 --> 01:56:12,791 So cool. 3644 01:56:13,291 --> 01:56:13,708 Um, yeah, yeah. 3645 01:56:15,708 --> 01:56:15,791 Awesome. 3646 01:56:16,333 --> 01:56:18,333 It's definitely something else. 3647 01:56:18,583 --> 01:56:21,083 Like for this year that you guys, uh, you 3648 01:56:21,083 --> 01:56:22,041 plan on it or should 3649 01:56:22,041 --> 01:56:23,333 we wrap this episode up? 3650 01:56:24,166 --> 01:56:26,208 Um, plan and get more videos out as per 3651 01:56:26,208 --> 01:56:28,291 usual, making it bigger in 3652 01:56:28,291 --> 01:56:29,541 the world of content creation. 3653 01:56:30,375 --> 01:56:31,500 It's always a bit of a, it's always a bit 3654 01:56:31,500 --> 01:56:34,291 of a grind, but I'm always down speed. 3655 01:56:34,500 --> 01:56:37,125 If it's a grind, but I'm curious, like 3656 01:56:37,125 --> 01:56:37,875 you bring that up, 3657 01:56:37,875 --> 01:56:38,708 like, are you going to be 3658 01:56:38,708 --> 01:56:39,750 doing something different this year? 3659 01:56:40,791 --> 01:56:45,125 Um, maybe more detailed videos, longer, 3660 01:56:45,125 --> 01:56:47,291 more detailed videos is my plan. 3661 01:56:48,708 --> 01:56:48,916 Yeah. 3662 01:56:49,500 --> 01:56:50,875 I do want to review more stuff though, 3663 01:56:50,875 --> 01:56:53,041 because my like non-steamed, like related 3664 01:56:53,083 --> 01:56:54,458 reviews don't do all that well. 3665 01:56:54,875 --> 01:56:56,583 Like I just reviewed a controller called 3666 01:56:56,583 --> 01:56:59,750 the game start tarantula pro and that's a 3667 01:56:59,750 --> 01:57:00,375 pretty cool feature. 3668 01:57:00,625 --> 01:57:02,000 So basically, you know, how a lot of 3669 01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,166 gamers have issues with like the button 3670 01:57:04,166 --> 01:57:05,041 legends, like they don't 3671 01:57:05,041 --> 01:57:07,000 know where X is for A or B. 3672 01:57:07,625 --> 01:57:08,958 So this has a feature where it 3673 01:57:08,958 --> 01:57:10,833 mechanically changes 3674 01:57:10,833 --> 01:57:12,208 depending on the mode you switch, 3675 01:57:13,291 --> 01:57:14,625 which is kind of interesting. 3676 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,000 And, uh, I mean, aside from that though, 3677 01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:20,333 it's a very competent controller. 3678 01:57:20,333 --> 01:57:22,458 It also has a PS4 mode that lets you, uh, 3679 01:57:22,916 --> 01:57:24,791 yeah, play games as, as though you're 3680 01:57:24,791 --> 01:57:27,041 using a dual shock for, which is kind of 3681 01:57:27,041 --> 01:57:28,291 crazy to me, but that 3682 01:57:28,291 --> 01:57:29,500 is, that is actually 3683 01:57:29,500 --> 01:57:30,416 very nice depending on 3684 01:57:30,416 --> 01:57:31,375 what type of game it is. 3685 01:57:32,250 --> 01:57:32,458 Yeah. 3686 01:57:33,500 --> 01:57:35,000 But, uh, it, uh, yeah, also 3687 01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:35,791 has giant and all that stuff. 3688 01:57:35,833 --> 01:57:38,500 But I mean, yeah, I do want to, I do want 3689 01:57:38,500 --> 01:57:40,166 to review more non-steamed like 3690 01:57:40,166 --> 01:57:41,916 related stuff and hopefully I'm not sure 3691 01:57:41,916 --> 01:57:43,500 how to make that, you know, make those 3692 01:57:43,500 --> 01:57:45,375 videos go do a little better. 3693 01:57:46,583 --> 01:57:51,125 Um, like it's just like, yeah, I mean, 3694 01:57:51,125 --> 01:57:52,750 you can always ask them what kind of, uh, 3695 01:57:52,750 --> 01:57:54,500 hardware they're like excited for, for 3696 01:57:54,500 --> 01:57:55,625 this year and try to reach out to those 3697 01:57:55,625 --> 01:57:58,375 companies for reviews or for copies. 3698 01:57:58,958 --> 01:58:03,833 Um, yeah, I mean, there's the controllers 3699 01:58:03,833 --> 01:58:05,541 are a hard one because they're, you know, 3700 01:58:06,375 --> 01:58:07,166 the controller for me, 3701 01:58:07,166 --> 01:58:09,000 there's a controller, right? 3702 01:58:09,250 --> 01:58:10,791 And so for me, I love, I 3703 01:58:10,791 --> 01:58:12,000 just like this controller. 3704 01:58:12,416 --> 01:58:14,875 Um, I, the only one I'm excited for is 3705 01:58:14,875 --> 01:58:16,333 the steam controller too. 3706 01:58:17,500 --> 01:58:20,541 Uh, anything else is a little too extra 3707 01:58:20,541 --> 01:58:21,333 because I'm more of a mouse 3708 01:58:21,333 --> 01:58:24,750 keyboard person anyways, but I don't know 3709 01:58:24,750 --> 01:58:25,750 anything that's exciting. 3710 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:26,666 I mean, I'm always 3711 01:58:26,666 --> 01:58:28,166 down to see cool things. 3712 01:58:28,750 --> 01:58:30,000 That's just my opinion on that. 3713 01:58:30,791 --> 01:58:35,750 Me, I find that like my videos do best if 3714 01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:41,416 it's an interesting topic and only, 3715 01:58:41,416 --> 01:58:42,708 I don't know, I don't, I feel like I 3716 01:58:42,708 --> 01:58:44,083 sometimes go into really big details 3717 01:58:44,083 --> 01:58:45,583 on some of my videos and they do worse. 3718 01:58:47,958 --> 01:58:50,458 So it's finding that balance for me and, 3719 01:58:50,458 --> 01:58:54,500 and, and posting more like consistently. 3720 01:58:54,791 --> 01:58:56,208 I know gardener, like you post what twice 3721 01:58:56,208 --> 01:58:58,083 a week and you're pretty consistent with 3722 01:58:59,166 --> 01:58:59,291 Yeah. 3723 01:59:00,625 --> 01:59:00,916 Yeah. 3724 01:59:00,916 --> 01:59:03,458 I'm in terms of like content stuff this 3725 01:59:03,458 --> 01:59:05,916 year, I want to focus more on evergreen 3726 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,958 content because right now, like the, my 3727 01:59:08,958 --> 01:59:11,083 best, my best performing videos are our 3728 01:59:11,083 --> 01:59:12,750 news videos and after a 3729 01:59:12,750 --> 01:59:14,041 week they get no views. 3730 01:59:14,791 --> 01:59:17,541 So I want to have videos that like, we'll 3731 01:59:17,541 --> 01:59:19,833 have a life beyond just 3732 01:59:20,666 --> 01:59:22,375 the weekly news, you know, 3733 01:59:22,833 --> 01:59:26,708 what kind of a game, cause like reviews 3734 01:59:26,708 --> 01:59:29,041 can be evergreen content, but they even 3735 01:59:29,041 --> 01:59:32,625 die out a little faster than like tips 3736 01:59:32,625 --> 01:59:34,458 and tricks, chips and tricks will last a 3737 01:59:34,458 --> 01:59:35,083 little longer. 3738 01:59:35,875 --> 01:59:36,000 Yeah. 3739 01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:36,625 What kind of evergreen 3740 01:59:36,625 --> 01:59:37,750 content are you thinking about? 3741 01:59:38,791 --> 01:59:40,583 Uh, stuff about like 3742 01:59:40,583 --> 01:59:42,666 emulation and stuff like that. 3743 01:59:42,916 --> 01:59:48,416 Probably like, I've done essays and they 3744 01:59:48,416 --> 01:59:51,166 can work, but like, I don't know. 3745 01:59:51,583 --> 01:59:54,458 I, the, the thing is like right now where 3746 01:59:54,458 --> 01:59:57,500 I am in business and in my personal life, 3747 01:59:57,708 --> 01:59:58,958 I don't have a lot of time 3748 01:59:58,958 --> 02:00:00,416 to do stuff for the channel. 3749 02:00:01,250 --> 02:00:05,250 And, uh, I can't justify the cost of like 3750 02:00:05,250 --> 02:00:08,041 investing way, like so much time, 3751 02:00:08,125 --> 02:00:09,625 like, like some other creators can. 3752 02:00:10,416 --> 02:00:14,041 Um, so for me, it's like, you know, I 3753 02:00:14,041 --> 02:00:14,791 want to focus on 3754 02:00:14,791 --> 02:00:16,708 things that continue to get, 3755 02:00:17,750 --> 02:00:22,833 um, views, but also I don't have to spend 3756 02:00:22,833 --> 02:00:25,208 hours making, you know? 3757 02:00:25,666 --> 02:00:25,875 Yeah. 3758 02:00:26,250 --> 02:00:28,083 Cause in the past, like when I was, I 3759 02:00:28,083 --> 02:00:30,166 worked a full time job and then I just 3760 02:00:30,250 --> 02:00:34,000 did YouTube and back then it didn't seem 3761 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:36,166 that ridiculous to have YouTube as a 3762 02:00:36,166 --> 02:00:39,791 hobby and I would spend, you know, 15, 3763 02:00:39,791 --> 02:00:43,500 20, 30 hours on a video and it seemed 3764 02:00:43,583 --> 02:00:45,791 fine, but now that I like work for myself 3765 02:00:45,791 --> 02:00:46,708 full time, I have to 3766 02:00:46,916 --> 02:00:50,291 like put food on my own table and it's, 3767 02:00:50,291 --> 02:00:52,083 uh, I understand crazy. 3768 02:00:52,208 --> 02:00:52,708 Yeah. 3769 02:00:52,708 --> 02:00:54,000 It's, it's, it's much harder. 3770 02:00:54,458 --> 02:00:57,208 And I find myself reaching for the news a 3771 02:00:57,208 --> 02:00:58,125 lot more these days too. 3772 02:00:58,125 --> 02:00:59,458 Cause I used to do a lot more green. 3773 02:01:00,125 --> 02:01:00,333 Yeah. 3774 02:01:01,208 --> 02:01:04,875 Um, yeah, I just stuff that would last a 3775 02:01:04,875 --> 02:01:06,500 lot longer, but they're so hard, like 3776 02:01:06,500 --> 02:01:09,333 tips and tricks or recording the steam 3777 02:01:09,333 --> 02:01:10,875 deck and doing guides and stuff was 3778 02:01:10,875 --> 02:01:13,041 just so much harder and it didn't like 3779 02:01:13,041 --> 02:01:15,958 over time it works well, but things 3780 02:01:16,041 --> 02:01:17,708 were changing so much I'd have to change. 3781 02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:19,333 I got tired of it and stopped doing it 3782 02:01:19,333 --> 02:01:21,000 because guides would go out of date. 3783 02:01:21,750 --> 02:01:23,333 And then you just get tons of angry 3784 02:01:23,333 --> 02:01:24,666 comments and I hate that. 3785 02:01:24,666 --> 02:01:26,208 And I don't want to list the video cause 3786 02:01:26,208 --> 02:01:27,500 then it just really screws up everything 3787 02:01:27,541 --> 02:01:27,958 else. 3788 02:01:28,500 --> 02:01:28,708 Yeah. 3789 02:01:28,750 --> 02:01:32,916 And so, yeah, I need to do some more 3790 02:01:32,916 --> 02:01:35,166 long-term content too. 3791 02:01:35,375 --> 02:01:38,541 That's, uh, tips oriented. 3792 02:01:38,541 --> 02:01:39,208 It'd be interesting. 3793 02:01:39,625 --> 02:01:40,166 It'd be a fun year. 3794 02:01:40,375 --> 02:01:41,250 It'll be a fun year. 3795 02:01:41,250 --> 02:01:43,083 Like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm with you on that. 3796 02:01:43,125 --> 02:01:45,833 I'm trying to find my own, uh, balancing 3797 02:01:45,833 --> 02:01:49,375 of time and, and doing everything else. 3798 02:01:49,583 --> 02:01:51,791 Cause you're a busy person, gardener. 3799 02:01:51,791 --> 02:01:52,625 I'm surprised you're able 3800 02:01:52,625 --> 02:01:54,083 to get the videos of you out. 3801 02:01:54,291 --> 02:01:55,000 You do get out. 3802 02:01:56,875 --> 02:01:57,166 Yeah. 3803 02:01:57,833 --> 02:02:01,875 I may, I, I reserve one day a week or 3804 02:02:01,875 --> 02:02:04,333 well, one day per video to get them done. 3805 02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:06,250 And then I do the rest of my 3806 02:02:06,250 --> 02:02:07,875 work around, around those days. 3807 02:02:08,791 --> 02:02:09,000 Interesting. 3808 02:02:09,875 --> 02:02:10,125 Yeah. 3809 02:02:10,625 --> 02:02:12,416 If I can't do a video in one day, I 3810 02:02:12,416 --> 02:02:13,750 generally won't do it. 3811 02:02:13,750 --> 02:02:15,875 And I have a pretty good handle on how 3812 02:02:15,875 --> 02:02:17,166 long something will take me. 3813 02:02:18,583 --> 02:02:18,916 Yeah. 3814 02:02:19,541 --> 02:02:20,833 I'm, I'm similar to these days. 3815 02:02:20,833 --> 02:02:22,250 I want to do more videos 3816 02:02:22,250 --> 02:02:24,166 that do be that include B roll. 3817 02:02:24,166 --> 02:02:25,916 Like I have a 3d printer video that I've 3818 02:02:25,916 --> 02:02:27,333 been, that I've on and off 3819 02:02:27,333 --> 02:02:30,458 but wanted to do over the past year. 3820 02:02:31,208 --> 02:02:32,375 Cause I've done one already. 3821 02:02:32,666 --> 02:02:35,041 That was like a few years ago, but it 3822 02:02:35,041 --> 02:02:35,666 takes a lot of work. 3823 02:02:36,166 --> 02:02:36,458 Yeah. 3824 02:02:36,708 --> 02:02:38,375 I have a 3d printer video coming too, 3825 02:02:38,625 --> 02:02:39,625 which I'm really excited about. 3826 02:02:39,666 --> 02:02:40,083 Ooh. 3827 02:02:40,416 --> 02:02:41,750 You got 3d print some stuff for us. 3828 02:02:42,208 --> 02:02:42,500 Yeah. 3829 02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:43,708 It's going to be cool. 3830 02:02:44,916 --> 02:02:45,458 That's exciting. 3831 02:02:45,791 --> 02:02:47,625 I, I need to do some more collections of, 3832 02:02:47,625 --> 02:02:48,583 is this steam deck related 3833 02:02:48,583 --> 02:02:49,916 or just a 3d printed? 3834 02:02:50,583 --> 02:02:51,500 It's steam deck related. 3835 02:02:51,833 --> 02:02:52,000 Yeah. 3836 02:02:53,708 --> 02:02:54,250 Well, damn. 3837 02:02:54,791 --> 02:02:55,000 Yeah. 3838 02:02:55,500 --> 02:02:55,708 Yeah. 3839 02:02:55,708 --> 02:02:57,083 I better get mine out quickly then. 3840 02:02:57,083 --> 02:02:57,833 No, just kidding. 3841 02:02:59,166 --> 02:02:59,750 There's no way I'm 3842 02:02:59,750 --> 02:03:00,916 getting mine out anytime soon. 3843 02:03:01,916 --> 02:03:06,625 Uh, there's a, there's, there's a video I 3844 02:03:06,625 --> 02:03:09,041 wanted to do and I still, I have 3845 02:03:09,125 --> 02:03:09,750 it planned. 3846 02:03:09,833 --> 02:03:11,250 It's a hundred things you can do on the 3847 02:03:11,250 --> 02:03:13,125 steam deck video, but 3848 02:03:13,125 --> 02:03:14,333 it's a very daunting 3849 02:03:14,500 --> 02:03:14,833 video. 3850 02:03:15,916 --> 02:03:16,125 Yeah. 3851 02:03:16,875 --> 02:03:17,500 A hundred things. 3852 02:03:19,125 --> 02:03:19,375 Yeah. 3853 02:03:19,375 --> 02:03:20,875 I have a, I'm not kidding. 3854 02:03:20,875 --> 02:03:23,750 I have a 22 page script that I just have 3855 02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:27,916 not recorded because it's just what's so 3856 02:03:27,916 --> 02:03:28,500 long. 3857 02:03:29,583 --> 02:03:33,500 It, uh, I'm not going to say, but it's, 3858 02:03:33,500 --> 02:03:38,416 it's, uh, it's things you didn't know 3859 02:03:38,458 --> 02:03:39,333 about the steam deck. 3860 02:03:39,333 --> 02:03:39,625 Okay. 3861 02:03:39,625 --> 02:03:40,166 I'll say it. 3862 02:03:40,666 --> 02:03:42,458 And it's 22 pages long. 3863 02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:43,333 Yeah. 3864 02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:47,250 And it's like lots of little tiny like 3865 02:03:47,250 --> 02:03:48,666 things that you didn't know. 3866 02:03:49,500 --> 02:03:51,333 And the longer I sit on it, the less 3867 02:03:51,333 --> 02:03:54,541 relevant it becomes, but it's so, I just 3868 02:03:54,541 --> 02:03:55,791 know that it's going to be like an hour 3869 02:03:55,791 --> 02:04:00,041 long video and I just editing that is 3870 02:04:00,041 --> 02:04:00,958 going to be a pain in the ass. 3871 02:04:01,291 --> 02:04:03,500 So you want to know how you do that. 3872 02:04:04,208 --> 02:04:06,375 You, you, you record the hour long video 3873 02:04:06,375 --> 02:04:08,125 and then for each point you break it off 3874 02:04:08,291 --> 02:04:09,166 and don't release it. 3875 02:04:09,166 --> 02:04:10,958 You just break it off into a short. 3876 02:04:11,791 --> 02:04:13,208 And you probably don't do shorts, but 3877 02:04:13,208 --> 02:04:14,708 shorts are still like important for 3878 02:04:14,750 --> 02:04:15,625 channel growth. 3879 02:04:15,625 --> 02:04:19,625 And so that's also how I've thought about 3880 02:04:19,625 --> 02:04:20,875 doing like the hundred things you can do 3881 02:04:20,875 --> 02:04:21,500 on steam deck. 3882 02:04:21,500 --> 02:04:22,625 But once again, like I said, like you 3883 02:04:22,625 --> 02:04:24,333 were talking, it's, it 3884 02:04:24,333 --> 02:04:25,041 could be an hour long 3885 02:04:25,083 --> 02:04:25,541 video. 3886 02:04:26,250 --> 02:04:27,333 It's going to be annoying to edit. 3887 02:04:27,333 --> 02:04:28,375 And is it going to do well? 3888 02:04:28,958 --> 02:04:31,708 Like I think it will, but that's a lot of 3889 02:04:31,708 --> 02:04:33,500 time to dedicate to something. 3890 02:04:33,916 --> 02:04:34,250 Yeah. 3891 02:04:35,166 --> 02:04:35,958 I have a feeling that 3892 02:04:35,958 --> 02:04:37,958 it'll do really well, but 3893 02:04:38,791 --> 02:04:40,166 I just haven't done it. 3894 02:04:40,833 --> 02:04:42,458 I have something similar 3895 02:04:42,458 --> 02:04:45,041 like that too, but it's yeah. 3896 02:04:45,500 --> 02:04:46,416 I don't really have any 3897 02:04:46,416 --> 02:04:47,958 grand plans for anybody is. 3898 02:04:48,375 --> 02:04:50,625 I probably should, but I don't. 3899 02:04:50,625 --> 02:04:51,125 I just kind of do 3900 02:04:51,125 --> 02:04:53,000 whatever, whatever you like it. 3901 02:04:53,583 --> 02:04:54,208 You've had some pretty 3902 02:04:54,208 --> 02:04:55,916 grand plans in the past though. 3903 02:04:56,500 --> 02:04:59,500 Like you've done, uh, multiple series. 3904 02:05:00,458 --> 02:05:01,291 Yeah, I have. 3905 02:05:02,666 --> 02:05:03,166 That's true. 3906 02:05:03,166 --> 02:05:06,291 I, I, I have my monthly game overviews. 3907 02:05:06,291 --> 02:05:07,458 They just tend to do pretty well. 3908 02:05:08,208 --> 02:05:11,250 As well as, um, what else have I done? 3909 02:05:13,083 --> 02:05:14,041 Oh, steam sales. 3910 02:05:14,041 --> 02:05:15,375 I cover those too. 3911 02:05:16,416 --> 02:05:16,583 Okay. 3912 02:05:16,958 --> 02:05:17,208 Yeah. 3913 02:05:17,208 --> 02:05:17,458 Yeah. 3914 02:05:17,750 --> 02:05:18,458 I used to do that, 3915 02:05:18,458 --> 02:05:21,750 but I, it got so boring. 3916 02:05:23,500 --> 02:05:23,791 Yeah. 3917 02:05:24,041 --> 02:05:25,500 Lots of stuff like the steam deck 3918 02:05:25,500 --> 02:05:28,416 masterclass series, which I would do more 3919 02:05:28,416 --> 02:05:31,291 of, but I'm trying to figure out what 3920 02:05:31,291 --> 02:05:33,458 more I could do with it. 3921 02:05:33,500 --> 02:05:37,458 Besides just remaking the episodes for a 3922 02:05:37,458 --> 02:05:40,500 modern, like, because the steam deck 3923 02:05:40,500 --> 02:05:42,875 does change because the steaming does 3924 02:05:42,875 --> 02:05:44,958 change quite a bit because of, uh, well, 3925 02:05:45,250 --> 02:05:50,833 you know, yeah, yeah, it does change. 3926 02:05:50,833 --> 02:05:51,666 And there's new things 3927 02:05:51,666 --> 02:05:52,500 that are added to it. 3928 02:05:53,208 --> 02:05:53,500 Okay. 3929 02:05:55,833 --> 02:05:58,958 I mean, there's always RTX because 3930 02:05:58,958 --> 02:06:02,000 there's some games that will use RTX or, 3931 02:06:02,083 --> 02:06:03,458 uh, ray tracing starting to RTX. 3932 02:06:03,500 --> 02:06:07,541 But retracing cheese, uh, but yeah. 3933 02:06:08,791 --> 02:06:09,416 Oh, okay. 3934 02:06:09,875 --> 02:06:11,000 I mean, it sounds like it's going to be 3935 02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:11,958 an interesting year though. 3936 02:06:12,250 --> 02:06:14,583 Like if half-life comes out, I'll 3937 02:06:14,583 --> 02:06:16,000 guarantee that there's going to probably 3938 02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,250 be like 10 videos for me on that. 3939 02:06:18,666 --> 02:06:21,000 Um, uh, anything valve comes out with, 3940 02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:21,833 they'll be, you know, be 3941 02:06:21,833 --> 02:06:22,958 multiple videos on that. 3942 02:06:23,875 --> 02:06:25,791 Uh, I probably should start preparing my 3943 02:06:25,791 --> 02:06:27,500 video for CES for next week and 3944 02:06:27,500 --> 02:06:28,750 just start preparing a script. 3945 02:06:29,291 --> 02:06:29,875 Yeah, you should. 3946 02:06:29,875 --> 02:06:30,833 I want to do that too, actually. 3947 02:06:32,083 --> 02:06:36,250 So, and then also, let's just, I'm just 3948 02:06:36,250 --> 02:06:38,250 really hoping that next week's episode 3949 02:06:38,250 --> 02:06:40,291 of this will be really, really fun 3950 02:06:40,291 --> 02:06:41,458 because we had a really 3951 02:06:41,458 --> 02:06:43,125 interesting drop at CES. 3952 02:06:43,958 --> 02:06:44,166 Yeah. 3953 02:06:45,333 --> 02:06:46,250 So there's something I was hoping. 3954 02:06:46,791 --> 02:06:49,083 I'm curious what the audience's plans are 3955 02:06:49,083 --> 02:06:50,833 for this year and why 3956 02:06:50,833 --> 02:06:52,833 isn't it subscribed to this show? 3957 02:06:53,583 --> 02:06:54,083 Exactly. 3958 02:06:54,666 --> 02:06:55,416 I like that. 3959 02:06:56,750 --> 02:06:58,000 Why, why is it not that? 3960 02:06:58,625 --> 02:06:59,583 Why aren't you subscribed? 3961 02:06:59,583 --> 02:07:00,291 Why didn't you like? 3962 02:07:00,875 --> 02:07:03,208 Yeah, get subscribed, follow us on the 3963 02:07:03,208 --> 02:07:06,708 Fetaverse and, uh, and hang out and let 3964 02:07:06,708 --> 02:07:08,041 us know what you think of 3965 02:07:08,041 --> 02:07:09,500 the show and YouTube as well. 3966 02:07:10,125 --> 02:07:10,666 And YouTube. 3967 02:07:10,666 --> 02:07:10,875 Yeah. 3968 02:07:11,583 --> 02:07:12,583 Yeah, exactly. 3969 02:07:13,500 --> 02:07:14,791 Like, and what else are you 3970 02:07:14,791 --> 02:07:15,916 doing game wise this year? 3971 02:07:16,166 --> 02:07:17,083 If you, if you have a 3972 02:07:17,083 --> 02:07:17,916 way to give us feedback. 3973 02:07:18,666 --> 02:07:18,875 Yeah. 3974 02:07:21,208 --> 02:07:22,000 New device you're buying? 3975 02:07:22,750 --> 02:07:22,958 Yes. 3976 02:07:24,458 --> 02:07:25,500 Well, uh, one more thing. 3977 02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:26,000 Wait for those tariffs. 3978 02:07:26,333 --> 02:07:26,583 One more thing. 3979 02:07:26,583 --> 02:07:31,666 We leave if Lenovo does in fact, come out 3980 02:07:31,666 --> 02:07:35,166 with a lesion go S with steam OS built 3981 02:07:35,250 --> 02:07:36,666 into it, why are you 3982 02:07:36,666 --> 02:07:37,500 guys going to review it? 3983 02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:39,958 I probably will. 3984 02:07:40,416 --> 02:07:40,958 Yes. 3985 02:07:41,250 --> 02:07:42,750 If I can get my hands on it, if I can get 3986 02:07:42,750 --> 02:07:43,625 my hands on it, if it's going to be a 3987 02:07:43,625 --> 02:07:46,083 really annoying to buy and let's, because 3988 02:07:46,083 --> 02:07:47,916 I've, I've bought stuff and then I did a, 3989 02:07:47,916 --> 02:07:50,875 like I've, I've, I've recorded B roll and 3990 02:07:50,875 --> 02:07:52,916 done videos to almost a point where I 3991 02:07:52,916 --> 02:07:55,250 released it, but it was so far past that 3992 02:07:55,250 --> 02:07:56,083 I didn't feel like it was relevant. 3993 02:07:56,333 --> 02:07:57,500 And that's a me problem 3994 02:07:57,500 --> 02:07:59,125 that I didn't release videos. 3995 02:07:59,333 --> 02:08:01,500 I probably sitting on like multiple 3996 02:08:01,500 --> 02:08:02,208 videos I've not 3997 02:08:02,208 --> 02:08:03,958 released over the past year and 3998 02:08:03,958 --> 02:08:06,958 a half, as long as it's within the first 3999 02:08:06,958 --> 02:08:08,708 month or two, then yeah, I'm fine with 4000 02:08:08,708 --> 02:08:10,333 that after that, I, I 4001 02:08:10,333 --> 02:08:11,000 don't know if I will. 4002 02:08:11,708 --> 02:08:14,583 I will do everything in my power to get a 4003 02:08:14,583 --> 02:08:16,791 pre-release version of it. 4004 02:08:16,791 --> 02:08:19,541 So please, yeah, I highly doubt I'd be 4005 02:08:19,541 --> 02:08:21,583 able to pull one, but even if I can get 4006 02:08:21,583 --> 02:08:24,500 a day one, I'll try to get one. 4007 02:08:25,583 --> 02:08:25,958 Yeah. 4008 02:08:25,958 --> 02:08:27,916 So next, next week's going 4009 02:08:27,916 --> 02:08:29,083 to be an interesting week. 4010 02:08:29,416 --> 02:08:31,000 Uh, it's not some Monday, right? 4011 02:08:32,500 --> 02:08:34,958 Or let me see when it starts actually. 4012 02:08:35,625 --> 02:08:38,500 So Tuesday, Tuesday 4013 02:08:38,500 --> 02:08:40,333 working from home that day. 4014 02:08:40,333 --> 02:08:41,041 Very nice. 4015 02:08:41,041 --> 02:08:41,708 Very nice. 4016 02:08:42,041 --> 02:08:42,500 Like makes me. 4017 02:08:44,500 --> 02:08:44,916 That's good. 4018 02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:47,125 I might do a video each 4019 02:08:47,125 --> 02:08:48,958 day just to kind of recap. 4020 02:08:49,916 --> 02:08:50,250 Really? 4021 02:08:50,250 --> 02:08:52,333 Surely there's not going to be that much, 4022 02:08:52,333 --> 02:08:54,458 like super relevant to us every day. 4023 02:08:54,458 --> 02:08:54,791 Right. 4024 02:08:55,625 --> 02:08:56,416 Or you can talk about 4025 02:08:56,416 --> 02:08:57,500 robots and stuff too. 4026 02:08:58,208 --> 02:08:59,166 I'll talk about robots. 4027 02:08:59,416 --> 02:09:00,375 I'll talk about 3d printing. 4028 02:09:01,500 --> 02:09:02,250 Yeah. 4029 02:09:04,166 --> 02:09:04,500 Yeah. 4030 02:09:05,250 --> 02:09:06,750 I'm going to each day is insane though. 4031 02:09:07,041 --> 02:09:10,000 Like I see deck wizard making video every 4032 02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:13,666 day and like I respect, I respect 4033 02:09:13,666 --> 02:09:14,208 the work ethic. 4034 02:09:14,875 --> 02:09:15,875 I don't think I can do that. 4035 02:09:15,875 --> 02:09:17,875 Even if it's like not really all that 4036 02:09:17,875 --> 02:09:18,875 edited, to be honest. 4037 02:09:19,708 --> 02:09:19,791 Hmm. 4038 02:09:20,791 --> 02:09:23,458 I dude, honestly, like the longest part 4039 02:09:23,458 --> 02:09:25,541 of my entire production process is the 4040 02:09:25,541 --> 02:09:29,750 writing, like I spend a solid four hours 4041 02:09:29,750 --> 02:09:31,500 or five hours writing a video. 4042 02:09:31,958 --> 02:09:35,375 And then I record for 25 to 40 minutes. 4043 02:09:35,708 --> 02:09:37,750 And then I edit it in like an hour. 4044 02:09:38,375 --> 02:09:40,541 Like I'm a really fast video editor. 4045 02:09:41,958 --> 02:09:44,125 My editing's the longest part of mine. 4046 02:09:44,333 --> 02:09:44,541 Really? 4047 02:09:44,708 --> 02:09:46,750 So I always absolutely, but I've changed 4048 02:09:46,750 --> 02:09:48,416 the way my videos are. 4049 02:09:48,458 --> 02:09:50,541 I put, I'll put like fun memes and stuff 4050 02:09:50,541 --> 02:09:51,916 in it just cause I have fun 4051 02:09:51,916 --> 02:09:53,208 to kind of adding certain things. 4052 02:09:54,291 --> 02:09:56,083 But I, it's just a different iteration on 4053 02:09:56,083 --> 02:09:57,583 like, I'm kind of changed how I've 4054 02:09:57,583 --> 02:09:59,250 released videos cause I used to do a lot 4055 02:09:59,250 --> 02:10:02,958 like more research upfront and then 4056 02:10:03,416 --> 02:10:04,125 recorded it. 4057 02:10:04,125 --> 02:10:04,791 I used to release 4058 02:10:04,791 --> 02:10:05,916 videos almost every day. 4059 02:10:06,458 --> 02:10:10,625 In fact, there was for, uh, in order to 4060 02:10:10,625 --> 02:10:12,250 get my channel to where it was, like, I 4061 02:10:12,250 --> 02:10:14,458 think for three months, four months, I 4062 02:10:14,458 --> 02:10:15,625 released a video every day. 4063 02:10:16,458 --> 02:10:19,125 Um, did fairly well, burnt out. 4064 02:10:20,333 --> 02:10:22,125 And so trying to get back into like 4065 02:10:22,125 --> 02:10:23,416 releasing just a couple times a week. 4066 02:10:24,416 --> 02:10:28,416 Cause it's fun, but I have a lot of fun, 4067 02:10:28,416 --> 02:10:32,958 but the problem comes down to deciding 4068 02:10:32,958 --> 02:10:34,541 what kind of, what, what does focus on 4069 02:10:34,541 --> 02:10:37,041 deciding what to do and writing 4070 02:10:37,166 --> 02:10:38,958 sometimes can be very daunting. 4071 02:10:39,416 --> 02:10:44,208 And so, yeah, I usually get stuck up in 4072 02:10:44,208 --> 02:10:45,000 the editing process. 4073 02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:47,375 I, I can record multiple videos, but 4074 02:10:47,375 --> 02:10:48,708 editing still different. 4075 02:10:49,916 --> 02:10:51,250 Cause I want to meet, I, yeah, well I'll 4076 02:10:51,250 --> 02:10:52,708 sit there and polish it for too long. 4077 02:10:52,708 --> 02:10:53,541 And it just doesn't matter. 4078 02:10:54,750 --> 02:10:55,041 Yeah. 4079 02:10:57,125 --> 02:10:57,416 Yeah. 4080 02:10:57,416 --> 02:11:00,083 For me, besides like, if I'm capturing B 4081 02:11:00,083 --> 02:11:01,166 roll, that's going to be the 4082 02:11:01,166 --> 02:11:03,916 longest part of my videos, but like, I 4083 02:11:03,916 --> 02:11:05,541 can, I can throw together like a 4084 02:11:05,541 --> 02:11:07,333 video really, really quickly now. 4085 02:11:09,458 --> 02:11:09,666 Yeah. 4086 02:11:09,875 --> 02:11:11,875 If I'm not adding B roll or anything 4087 02:11:11,875 --> 02:11:13,250 that's over, like it's just me talking. 4088 02:11:13,583 --> 02:11:16,291 I can get it edited in like 20 minutes, I 4089 02:11:16,291 --> 02:11:17,833 guess, as long as the video is, 4090 02:11:18,458 --> 02:11:20,708 which is not usually 20, but if I'm 4091 02:11:20,708 --> 02:11:22,958 adding anything really, sometimes 4092 02:11:22,958 --> 02:11:23,791 I have stuff prepared. 4093 02:11:23,791 --> 02:11:25,958 Sometimes I don't. 4094 02:11:26,458 --> 02:11:28,583 I'm in that, like the editing portions, 4095 02:11:28,583 --> 02:11:30,208 the kind of like the fun little area 4096 02:11:30,208 --> 02:11:33,250 where I'm having fun playing around with. 4097 02:11:33,666 --> 02:11:35,291 And so that's probably another reason why 4098 02:11:35,291 --> 02:11:36,083 it's taking me so long. 4099 02:11:36,375 --> 02:11:37,833 Cause I like to play with it, but also 4100 02:11:37,833 --> 02:11:40,750 wanting to like make it better 4101 02:11:40,958 --> 02:11:42,125 than it probably needs to be. 4102 02:11:43,541 --> 02:11:45,125 For someone because it's like news stuff. 4103 02:11:45,125 --> 02:11:45,666 Like you just talked 4104 02:11:45,666 --> 02:11:46,791 about, like it's new stuff. 4105 02:11:47,083 --> 02:11:48,791 Like as long as there's good stuff on 4106 02:11:48,791 --> 02:11:50,708 screen for them to like understand it, 4107 02:11:50,833 --> 02:11:51,708 it's not as big a deal, 4108 02:11:51,708 --> 02:11:53,833 but long form content. 4109 02:11:53,833 --> 02:11:54,541 That's where it 4110 02:11:54,541 --> 02:11:55,500 starts to get much harder. 4111 02:11:56,375 --> 02:11:56,583 Yeah. 4112 02:11:58,916 --> 02:11:59,125 Yeah. 4113 02:12:00,708 --> 02:12:01,125 Oh, cool. 4114 02:12:01,416 --> 02:12:01,625 Cool. 4115 02:12:01,666 --> 02:12:03,916 Uh, do we want to wrap this thing up? 4116 02:12:04,666 --> 02:12:05,000 Yeah. 4117 02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:06,208 I want to go see how my video's doing. 4118 02:12:06,208 --> 02:12:07,500 I don't think it's I'm, I'm sure it's 4119 02:12:07,500 --> 02:12:10,708 doing okay because Half-Life 3's, uh, 4120 02:12:10,708 --> 02:12:11,791 the topics I covered 4121 02:12:11,791 --> 02:12:13,083 are like five days old. 4122 02:12:13,416 --> 02:12:14,958 It took me way too long to record and 4123 02:12:14,958 --> 02:12:16,375 edit, but speaking of 4124 02:12:16,375 --> 02:12:17,625 editing, but I really, 4125 02:12:17,875 --> 02:12:18,875 I want to go see what it's like. 4126 02:12:19,666 --> 02:12:22,750 So should we end? 4127 02:12:23,333 --> 02:12:23,625 Yeah. 4128 02:12:23,625 --> 02:12:24,083 I think we should. 4129 02:12:25,208 --> 02:12:25,666 All right. 4130 02:12:25,875 --> 02:12:26,708 Good show guys. 4131 02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:28,250 Yes. 4132 02:12:28,458 --> 02:12:30,208 Thank you for a great show. 4133 02:12:30,500 --> 02:12:32,000 I'm very happy with this. 4134 02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:33,208 I'm glad to be back again. 4135 02:12:33,625 --> 02:12:33,875 Yeah. 4136 02:12:34,458 --> 02:12:35,208 Welcome back, partner. 4137 02:12:35,750 --> 02:12:36,041 Yeah. 4138 02:12:36,041 --> 02:12:36,541 Well, glad you're back. 4139 02:12:36,833 --> 02:12:37,166 Yeah. 4140 02:12:37,166 --> 02:12:38,083 Glad you're feeling a lot better. 4141 02:12:38,791 --> 02:12:39,125 Yeah. 4142 02:12:39,916 --> 02:12:41,500 Bring the insight for us, man. 4143 02:12:41,500 --> 02:12:42,583 Hopefully you'll be able to go see. 4144 02:12:42,583 --> 02:12:43,000 Yes. 4145 02:12:43,166 --> 02:12:45,500 If the company, uh, I hope so. 4146 02:12:45,500 --> 02:12:45,916 Yeah. 4147 02:12:45,916 --> 02:12:46,500 That would be fun. 4148 02:12:47,041 --> 02:12:47,791 That would be awesome. 4149 02:12:48,166 --> 02:12:48,875 Then you could be our insight. 4150 02:12:49,125 --> 02:12:50,375 Cool to meet James in person. 4151 02:12:51,166 --> 02:12:51,625 I yeah. 4152 02:12:51,625 --> 02:12:52,791 If you do go, I will try 4153 02:12:52,791 --> 02:12:53,750 everything I can to go down there. 4154 02:12:53,750 --> 02:12:54,500 So that'd be awesome. 4155 02:12:55,083 --> 02:12:55,291 Yeah. 4156 02:12:55,458 --> 02:12:55,791 Oh yeah. 4157 02:12:56,750 --> 02:12:57,083 Yeah. 4158 02:12:57,625 --> 02:12:58,166 We're going to have it. 4159 02:12:58,166 --> 02:12:58,708 Oh, it's going to be a 4160 02:12:58,708 --> 02:12:59,625 good next week, guys. 4161 02:12:59,958 --> 02:13:00,291 Yeah. 4162 02:13:00,750 --> 02:13:01,000 For sure. 4163 02:13:02,750 --> 02:13:04,166 Thanks for watching and listening. 4164 02:13:04,875 --> 02:13:05,166 Yeah. 4165 02:13:05,666 --> 02:13:06,083 Thanks guys. 4166 02:13:07,250 --> 02:13:07,708 All right. 4167 02:13:08,125 --> 02:13:08,583 Have a good day. 4168 02:13:08,583 --> 02:13:08,750 Y'all. 4169 02:13:09,416 --> 02:13:09,791 Yep. 4170 02:13:09,791 --> 02:13:10,208 Peace out.