Good morning, everybody. It is another
episode of Off the Console,
the hottest podcast about tech
and gaming and anything nerdy.
We're here today with my
friends, James and HiTechLilLife.
How's it going, guys?
Going to and fine. How about you?
Doing all right now that I'm on the show.
This week, we've got
some like crazy news.
DeepSeek, R1 kind of
upset the entire tech industry
and wiped a bunch of
valuation off of Nvidia stock.
We'll talk about that.
We're going to talk about the tariffs.
We're getting political guys.
We're going to talk about it.
And also, there's a ton of Sony news this
week that we're going to cover.
And like a ton like it's
half of our document this week.
I know. So we like to start this show off
with talking about what
everybody's been playing this week.
What have you guys been playing?
James.
Ah, I have been playing the news game.
I've been looking at
Apple News and also Reddit and
trying to stay away from X because it is.
It's a cesspool, but
yeah, no, honestly,
what have I been playing?
There's a reason they call them
excretions when you post something on X.
Dude, that is amazing.
I love that.
I think that makes me want to use it more
now because it's stupid.
I've been watching my wife play Ratchet
and Clank on PS5, actually.
Funny. Oh, nice.
That's a that's a fun
game that I've not beat yet.
I should pick it up on PC.
It's a good one. It's like I forgot how
good that game looks.
Insomnia, insomnia is so good.
And I'm making games.
I know Spider-Man 2 came on PC, too.
Also developed Insomniac.
Yep, they're really like
they're top tier developers.
Would you say better than Naughty Dog?
I'm different. That's a hard one.
Really? In terms of what I like.
Yeah, you don't like Naughty
Dog games that much, though.
So as as for me, I
guess I've been playing
Blotrow still trying
to 100 percent the game.
It's pure insanity.
But I also am playing
Marvel Rivals as as usual.
I also got this new game
called a needy streamer
Overload Typing of the Net. It's OK.
All right. So the bit was so there's
going to be some spoilers,
but I'll tell you what it is.
So it's basically like a typing game.
Like think of like typing of the dead.
But instead of typing like actual words,
you type in like in that slang.
And it's the funniest shit ever.
And there are some really deep cuts.
Like you'd have to be a four channeler to
like know what these are.
Like nice digits is one.
Do they have for who goo gods?
I don't think I've seen that yet, but
there's some not for who goo gods.
There's a lot of like we have.
There's like a lot of we do
references to it. It's crazy.
But then when you beat the game,
there's actually a whole secret second
game that's like not advertised at all
in the game itself.
That's your spoiler warning. Nice. Nice.
But yeah, just me mostly
trying 100 percent Bellatro.
And it's going to take a while.
I bet you if I actually took this
seriously during like last year,
I probably would have
finished by now, but you know.
Oh, so you've been playing it for.
Oh, wait, Bellatro
you're talking about, though.
Yeah, Bellatro. I've been
trying to 100 percent it.
So the requirements for 100 percent
Bellatro is a you have to beat
the game with every deck on the highest
difficulty gold state.
And in order to do that, you
have to beat each individual.
You don't like a lot.
You like a lot of difficulties for the
deck you're playing.
So like you don't just I'm not golden and
you can just play all the mongol.
You have to like go
through every single like level
with every single deck.
And then you have to get a gold sticker
on all the jokers, which means
you have to beat the game with
all of the jokers in inventory
at some point in time.
Oh, that sounds intense.
That sounds like some I don't know.
And then you have to be all the
challenges, but I'm not
going to worry about those
until I gold star gold
sticker, all of them.
Wow. I mean, it sounds
like a fun challenge.
I don't know if I could do it.
I 100 percent at half life.
To an episode.
I don't think I was able to know.
I think I did all the episodes
also half life to an episode.
That's about it.
Yeah.
100 percenting.
I don't have the
patience to 100 percent games.
Like I really the only actually the only
game I did 100 percent was Spelunky.
And that took years for me to do.
Damn. Yeah.
That's Spelunky Spelunky.
Oh, my God. Spelunky one.
But I think it.
Yeah.
Like it was like.
There's a like a whole secret level that
you have to get that.
There's like nearly impossible to get to
unless you have the right like run.
Basically, I think it was like Eldorado.
I believe it was.
Yeah, or something like that.
It's like a city of
gold or some sort of gold.
Dude, I mean, and eggplant run is crazy.
Like everything about
that game is just insane.
So yeah.
Games are.
I don't know if I
actually fully 100 percent of it,
but that's as close as I've ever come.
Like I I did.
I think I've been to every level and I've
killed pretty much every enemy
that you can get in your journal.
OK, are you sure you said it?
No, no, I'm saying I don't think I did
now that I am thinking back on it.
I think you might have to go back to it.
I don't know.
Is that it?
You're not going to
get fact checked here.
You could just say it.
It'll be so.
Half Life's an easy one.
Half Life 2 is a fun one 100 percent
because like their achievements
are just fun to go out and find like
going find the vertigo
that's like in this sewer system that's
roasting headcrabs to eat.
You know, that was one of the
achievements is just fun stuff.
So it was a fun one to do.
There's.
Man, so like.
I heard some other
interest, Gungeon, like a while ago,
and that took a while too, because you
have to get every done
and a lot of them requires.
I don't know. It was a lot.
And then they added more stuff after I
100 percent the first time.
So I had to do it again.
Yeah, man.
I hate when that happens, to be honest.
That when vampire survivors like 100
percent of that game,
and then they just kept making updates
and now I'm probably like
at most 50 percent done.
That's what Astros kind of like.
Astros come out with a couple extra, but
I played it right after.
So technically, there's supposed to be
like 300 bots, but then you can get
like once you had 300, the new levels
unlock and you have like 18 more
you have to get. So because they're like
Christmas specials and stuff.
They are. Can you only get
it during Christmas time?
No, well, I don't think so.
It was just unlocked.
So you become like you
have Santa Claus outfit on.
You're playing a snow level.
It was really honestly like I know I keep
on praising that game.
It's just it brings me back to the good
old days of making really good games.
And it had some complexity to it.
So like it's what gamers want, right?
They don't want unfinished games.
They don't want, you know,
a lot of extra crap at it.
They want free stuff. That's like.
What that game is, there's no DLCs.
They have new content comes out. It's
I play I'm playing it almost
a year after it's released,
but there is no real bugs in it.
So it's really good.
What I've been playing this week,
it's I've been so I was it last Monday?
I posted a video about like emulating the
3DS on your on your steam deck.
And a bunch of people in
the comments were like,
you need to do VR 3DS stuff.
And I was like, is that
even possible? What? And.
So I ended up screwing around with this.
Which looks ridiculous,
because it's too small for my head.
Oh, wow, that's a narrow.
Is that the is that the
venture or the venture? Yeah.
And and it's actually pretty neat.
They sent this to me a long time ago.
And like when it first came out and like
there wasn't like wide support for it.
And it was like making
me feel a little sick.
So they were like, you
don't have to make a video.
It was making you sick.
And so and they didn't ask for it back.
So I never did, but I never sent it back.
But then I had it in my
drawer and I was like, hey,
I could probably do
this with my steam deck.
And there's a frickin decky
loader app or decky loader plugin
that will turn your your steam deck into
like a virtual screen.
And it's pretty neat.
So I've been just doing that and trying
out different games.
And you can't really do VR like that on
here, because it's like.
I don't know how to explain it.
It just it doesn't do
like the depth on each eye.
It with the decky loader app,
but it's pretty neat anyway.
So if you switch into desktop mode,
there's like a I
think it's called Breezy.
There's an application that
will help you do VR stuff.
And you can do side by side mode.
Anyway, I've been messing around with
that and it's pretty neat on
and trying to get the
three years emulator to work.
Hasn't haven't played
playing the game in 3D on.
Wait, it doesn't.
Wait, you say what you said
it doesn't do that perception.
That's my bad.
Well, so each each
lens has its own screen
and you can do like side by side mode
where it will split an image
if it's rendered in 3D in the device.
But it doesn't work as far as I've seen.
It doesn't work with like Steam VR.
So so it does.
You can't play like VR titles on this.
But you can play games in 3D.
Sorry, what?
But you can do like 3D.
Yeah, so like if the game if
like you're watching a 3D video
or you're playing a game that renders in
like a side by side thing,
then you can set up this to do that.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, and there might be a
way to do Steam VR on here.
I don't know for sure.
I haven't I haven't been
able to figure it out yet.
But I'll probably make a video about this
because it is really neat.
Have you tried using?
If either of you guys tried using those
glasses on and like a flight?
No.
Really tempted to try to get some.
I'll tell you like
I'll tell you like that.
I am really interested to try it on a
flight because when I'm if I'm on
a those chairs are so uncomfortable and
I'm like six foot three
and so like sitting there
and hunched over like this.
It like kills my neck.
So hold on.
Hold up.
You're six foot three.
Yeah, I did not know that.
No, that's crazy.
Oh my gosh.
That's crazy.
I know that really tall like everybody I
know is like I forget how
tall you are until I come back to you
like until I see you in person.
Wow, that is probably the
biggest news for the last week.
And there's a lot of news.
Oh my god.
I'm also 36 which feels crazy.
You're doing what you're
that no, I'm just kidding.
Yeah, not by much though, right?
We talk about that last week.
Dude.
Dude, what that's crazy man.
You're six foot three.
I didn't know that and that's for taking
and that's for taking on
the flight.
I do have I don't have pictures.
I do have I have the raid nears.
I think they're called the air to use.
Fast similar.
I do want to take them on a
flight and try them out there.
I'll let you know how it
is, but I'm pretty sure.
I mean, I'm pretty sure is gonna be a
good experience because I
mean, why wouldn't it be right?
It's better than fucking like you said
like lunch crunching
down a player steam
deck or whatever, right?
It's more or less just to relax and kind
of forget about everything
else as much as possible.
Yeah, see the thing is I'm really I'm
super sensitive to like VR
like nausea and stuff.
So I have to like turn off the shade
darkening that it does like
you can see through the shade here and
you can see that like
the reflector there but like when the
screen is on those the
shades automatically darken and so it
like excludes everything
so you can just focus on the image.
But if I'm focusing on the
image and it's static and moving
with my head, it makes me so sick.
What's the what's oh, yeah, sorry.
Well, I was gonna say like if
I turn on like follow mode on
on in the XR app, then it then
I'll move and then the screen
will start will like move after right
like so it's it gives
you that sense like there's
a screen floating out here.
That's moving rather than
having it stuck to your view and
that helps tremendously.
But also if you turn off the darkening
when screen is active
it's enough visual information did not
cause me to feel sick
because actually I was on the treadmill
with these and I was
watching a YouTube video and I was very
impressed by how that
how work.
Yeah, that's cool.
I wish my awesome.
I wish my glasses
electric from a dimming.
So it's really nice.
What's the refresh rate on
those like I don't know I cuz
that's a huge part of nausea.
Like if you have a lot of
motion sickness and stuff like
that, it's usually comes down
to both the game performance
and refresh rate of the I wear isn't
yours like 120 gardener.
I believe I am not not sure
I'm googling it right now.
Well, even if refresh rates of 120 you
got to make sure the
game or whatever you're doing
is matching that or and that
could be worth DLSS like we've talked
about before and FSR
like frame generation could
actually be nice even though
you'll get artifacting if
you're doing if you're doing
AR or stuff like that
you're going to want that.
Yeah, I mean 120 Hertz is
what it says which I can't argue
with that but I can tell you
that my steam deck does not
generate that amount of frames.
Then you just need you just need someone
that Nvidia multi-frame
generation turn your 30 and yes and 120.
Yes.
Well, here's the thing.
I don't know.
Did we talk about this yet?
But there's a there's a
plug-in for decky loader to enable
especially games that use
DLSS to enable FSR 3 on them.
No, I haven't seen that.
Yeah, so some games can get
a pretty big hit like bump up
and performance and then
obviously if it's 30 or lower it
doesn't okay.
Well, yeah, I'll get out to try that out
later on my own time.
Yeah.
Well, I think with that we
should move on to the stories
of the week.
Huh?
Yes.
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Um, cool.
All right, you guys
want to get political.
A warning.
Hello political.
This is gonna be
interesting territory to tread into.
So Trump apparently wants to issue
tariffs to Taiwanese
chipmaker TSMC with supposedly 100%
tariff on on all things
which James you were saying before we
started could end up
stacking.
So like multiple components in a build
would get like would
mean you'd have more
500% tariff or something.
Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be
quite like that, but it would
be stacking a sense of
like they're a terror.
Yeah, it's gonna be nasty.
Let's just say that well, I
honestly have been like I have
checked out of politics
because I had too much opium and then
it all vanished in an instant.
And so I've checked out of politics.
So I'm gonna need one of
you guys to tell me about this
because I don't know.
Okay, so Trump wants to
tear wants to issue a tariff to
Taiwan up to 100% tariffs
because they you know, they
want American chip
manufacturers to be protected or some
bullshit like that because
everyone's going to TSMC.
Yes, even Intel is going to TSMC too.
If I'm mistaken, they started
doing that with a arrow Lake
and whatnot.
And to be fair Intel's
foundry seem to be not able to do
like low nanometer process.
I think they've been stuck on like 10
nanometer for years,
right? They've been stuck in 10
nanometers like that 10
minute process.
They've been stuck on a nanometer.
I don't think it's 10 though.
I think I'm pretty
sure it's lower than that.
I'd have to look it up though.
They were stuck on
something that for a long time if I
recall but Intel is still stuck like
we're pretty much hit
that like theoretical limit, I think.
Yes, and so the problem with
this is that everything uses
chips, computer chips and two of the in
like here's a problem
with doing this.
Everything uses chips.
Everything is going to go up in prices
and like even things
that aren't necessarily chips like
fucking food and stuff
that gets transported by
cars that may have chips inside
them, correct?
That's probably the price too.
Yeah, it literally will
affect almost everything.
Maybe even your toaster if
it's an Xbox but it's I'm sorry.
I'm going to keep on with that.
I really like that.
So so Intel is that
stuck at five nanometers.
I think AMD is like a step below that.
But I'd have to look that up.
Yeah for me.
I mean, there's I believe is
where AMD is but Intel's been
stuck between seven and five for a while.
But here's the thing guys.
There's a reason why we get
our chip sets and most chips get
made in Taiwan.
They have the tech.
They have the know-how the
copyrights and everything.
We have really good relations
with Taiwan and we've continued
to do that.
It's caused major issues with China
because China doesn't
want Taiwan to exist, right?
And so it's all a mess.
I don't know why Trump's
going after Taiwan who's been a
really big ally with us except for he
wants to usually with
tariffs like a little bit
of background with tariffs.
Tariffs are usually meant
to push domestic produce.
It's usually meant to like
try to punish another country or
not a country but like an you know, an
import that's coming
in to then do it domestically is
oftentimes but the last
time we had a major tariff
war it nearly wrecked us and
destroyed multiple politicians lives
about a hundred years
ago a little and then.
With these tariffs that
are going on right now.
They are going to they don't
like with tariffs like what
we found out over years
because we still use tariffs every
once in a while still like
we've used them over decades,
but they're very strategic.
But they always
trickle down to the consumer.
They're never paid by the
companies on the other side.
They're paid by domestic companies.
So anytime we buy anything,
they're just going to include
like everything's made and everything.
They're just going to
include that price tag to us.
So this ends up always like
and tell like what would be
the most strategic thing is open up.
Well, here's the thing, but
the Biden administration did
a chips act to start doing
more domestic made it chips.
That's the way to do it.
And then if you want to once
it's up and running and doing
really well, you could then
implement tariffs to then do
more domestic and that's
the correct way to do it.
If you want to go that
route, you don't just like
well, I want to be domestic.
It might take decades and and like
royally fuck over our
whole tech scene and
potentially give even more wins to
other countries.
And though I don't like
looking at it that way.
This is going like if this
does go through which Trump
keeps on going back and forth on on
tariffs back and forth
on tariff.
So we'll see if this goes through.
I'm really curious.
Yeah.
I don't I don't want to get
into like politics, right?
Like I just don't I find it very
obnoxious and I don't
know but at the same time,
it's like it's clear to me
that like this guy doesn't
know anything about trade and
he doesn't know anything about like
business even though
he's like supposed to be a businessman.
So that's my that's my take
like I the fact that he keeps
going back and forth.
It means that he's he's
listening to many different people
who are telling him many
different things, right?
And I just it doesn't stand
for anything as far as I'm
concerned.
He wasn't just a businessman.
He was the businessman.
He I think he I remember he
had his own show like back in
the like the early 2000s and
then his his catchphrase was
you're fired.
It was always the funniest
shit ever but man that wouldn't
and that I don't know man.
I don't yeah, you're
I'm with the gardener.
I don't really like
talking about politics.
But yeah, this is something that directly
affects our interests
and livelihood like look at this.
It's gonna jack the prices
of basically everything and I
was looking forward to
building a new computer this year
and I might have to accelerate those
plans because of the
incoming tariffs like
fuck man like what was it?
I was gonna build like
let's say you were gonna build a
computer that was like $2,000 right?
I could probably see that
rising maybe even doubling too
like imagine how fucked about be.
It could potentially yeah
that $2,000 Nvidia video card
it's gonna be $4,000 potentially.
Yeah, I mean I don't think
all of it is done through
TSMC.
I'm sure the physical
materials are done through China
but like the chips are
definitely done through TSMC
if I'm not mistaken.
He's he's doing a
blanket on a lot of the stuff.
So it might say TSMC but Trump isn't
necessarily going to
target just one company
if he's targeting typically
countries.
He might he might have like
minions targeting specific
companies in those but
typically he's been trying to
do more like if he says
electronics is probably going
to cover it.
Once again, we don't know he
goes back and forth on this
whole thing.
I'm not trying to be
political like I don't mind being
political but I'm trying not
to be like this is just the
realistic nature of actions and
consequences kind of stuff.
We he said he's going to do tariffs.
I mentioned he was going to
do tariffs back early November
and there's a good chance
he's going to do it even though
I don't think any of his
visors want him to do it for
some reason.
He has got it in his mind
that he wants to do tariffs and
he has recently said that
it's one of his favorite words to
say is tariffs.
I so it is once again, the
reason I only bring this all
up is because I try to be
very skeptical that this is going
to happen.
But if this does happen, this
is going to fuck everyone over
this year that wants to buy anything
electronic because it's
going to somehow hit you
whether it's 10% increase whether
it's a 50% increase.
We don't know yet and we
might not know until it actually
happens because yeah,
even the uncertainty of it.
Will he do it?
Will he not do it is
having an economic toll, right?
Like that it just I don't know dude.
It bothers me in a lot of ways because
it's like I can I can
I can get behind some of
the sentiments for people like
wanting tariffs, right?
Like, you know, I want
more domestic manufacturing.
I want more domestic like
food production because a lot of
our food comes from China, right?
It's like I want more of agriculture.
I want more things locally.
Create jobs, right?
Hey, that's a good thing.
But if it's not done, right,
it will have the opposite effect
of what we want and you know,
people are complaining about
prices now, but like prices
will go up across the board on
everything and you know, half of the
things he was running
on was like, oh, yeah, I'm
going to bring the price of eggs
down. It's like dude, dude
doesn't even know you don't need
an ID to buy a loaf of
bread for God's sakes, right?
Like he said that once or
twice on the game and it's like
what do you talk?
He doesn't he's so disconnected.
It makes me upset and that's
why I don't tune into politics
anymore.
It's that's a tactic.
It's not he I don't think he believed it.
It's a tactic to say this other and no
one facts checks them
anymore.
Yeah, so and anyone can say
this bloke learn if this gets
you upset like you need to go check.
I just check out a politics
of this is getting you upset
because I try to too, but
it's really hard with the like
talking about the food
stuff like we actually produce.
I don't think people understand how much
we produce domestically
on a lot of stuff.
We actually produce a lot of food,
California, especially
produces a lot of food.
And so like we we there's it's world
trades because it's no
country.
It can be a hundred percent good at
everything and usually
you like to specialize.
That's usually how it works.
The problem is is that then
if you end up in a bad dispute
with that country where they're really
good at mate like Taiwan
making chips, then your products go up.
But that's the thing people might get
upset at Taiwan, but
we do the same thing.
We're doing it right
now to other countries.
And so that's why we want to
have that's what a diplomat is
for.
I don't know why Trump's trying to be a
diplomat like we have
diplomats to go and talk and do
negotiations, but ultimately
I think no matter what even if
this does not go through this
might even trigger some
companies to raise their prices
just out of anticipation and
they'll just won't say anything
like well, we thought maybe so and then
they've justified it
multiple times.
It will be very interesting
to see like what Nvidia does
because the CEO of Nvidia
just met with I don't know if we
have it in our new things, but he met
with Trump yesterday
I believe about all the stuff going on.
So like with the tariffs
and a couple other things so I
man, so fucking Nvidia will
take every opportunity to jack
of the prices of the
graphics cards and the network bring
it down and AMD is also complicit too.
They don't direct they are the ones
leading the charge, but
they're the most okay with it because
they'll like they'll
make it graphics card that like is $100
cheaper, but it's like
75% the performance and it doesn't even
have great retracing
performance and that really
pisses me off about fucking
AMD.
I'm also curious.
Yeah, that's the thing like
you can never expect prices to
go down for like that's a
little I think a little bit of a
perception of like capitalism
like you're always should be
trying to get the lowest cost item like
whatever like unless
you have really good manufacturing and
automated manufacturing
and really automated systems
there there becomes a point
where you can't can't reduce
it much more and I'm wondering
because I think China has been doing
better have better pay
for their employees same with Taiwan.
I wonder if some of the
costs going up is because those
countries are doing better and
so some of that's been offset
to even other second world
countries because China is
really growing from their boon and tech.
So it's a very complex system that I
don't need to go into
too much, but it's I try not
to jump on the whole like it
went up in price bad kind of thing.
I want to know why but
definitely Nvidia it definitely
feels like sometimes the
Nvidia just does it just a and they
they've kind of
bragged about it too before.
Yeah.
So well Nvidia is like to
the point where you know
graphics card sales to to
gamers is like chump change
right like they want to
sell a hundred thousand GPUs to
Enterprise, you know
server forms or whatever.
That's true.
So they might just be jacking up the
price because it helps
them on the other side rather than
actually are yeah like
there's actually a lot about that.
There's some news
articles over the years.
I forgot about that.
That's actually one of the
things that they some insider
leaks kind of stuff.
Once again, I don't know source wise.
This is more rumors than I think that
that's what they do.
And if I'm not mistaken,
I've read that this is also why
Nvidia likes to like really
short changes on VRAM because
they don't want us to have powerful
graphics cards to run
like these AI models.
They want us to buy the
really expensive Enterprise models
because those have way more
VRAM and yes, they are better
suited for AI but like they
don't want people at home to
be having enough VRAM to run
these AI models on their own
computers.
And that's why anything
short of like a 5090 has has like
16 gigs of VRAM at most.
Oh, we'll get it.
Let's just say a little sneak peek a
little bit later that
Nvidia got some.
They got what they deserved
a little bit and hopefully it
sticks but we can we'll
talk about that later.
Yeah in the meantime, let's
talk about the hundred-dollar
video game.
$100.
got to do it so I just added it just now.
So people in the games
industry want Grand Theft Auto 6
to be the first $100 video game.
And because let's be perfectly frank,
GTA 6 is going to sell
basically no matter what,
let's be honest.
They would not lose much
sales if they did $100.
I had a fight with, okay,
I know I keep talking about my stream,
but like I had a fight
with some people in my stream
and they're like,
"Well, I wouldn't pay $100."
I'm like, "Would you
buy it when it's 60?"
Then you're gonna buy it when it's 100.
You might say you're not going to,
but if you're so excited for this game,
most people will buy it at $100.
It doesn't matter
because they're excited.
And it might be the only
game they buy this year.
That being said, these other companies
that are hoping that,
because once one company kind
of does it and it does well,
all the other companies kind
of start to follow through.
Like that's why you
get the $70 price tag.
It's not gonna work though.
It is gonna fail.
It's gonna be horrible.
I hate that I'm so cynical,
but it's like there's so
much fervor in the games media
about this.
I'm wondering how much they're being paid
to talk about this, to see this idea,
because like it's, you know, dude,
I'm never going to buy GTA VI.
I'm just gonna say that out.
They screwed over their
Linux gamers on the Steam Deck
and I'm not gonna buy it.
So just on principle, but if it was $100,
I wouldn't buy it if I was
gonna buy the game anyway.
Like that's too much in my opinion.
I feel like any, well,
the game is very big.
So I actually think
they can justify the $100
and justify it.
I think that's fine.
You charge what you
think your game's worth,
and especially if it's how much you're
gonna get out of it.
But my point is I think
they'll lose some people
that won't buy it for $100,
but that would have bought it for 60.
I think most people,
anyone that's excited for GTA,
which I don't think you're
really that excited, right,
Gardiner?
Like I'm not really that excited.
I wouldn't pay $100,
but I wasn't gonna pay 60.
I was gonna wait until it dropped,
unless I got talked into it,
which you never know with me.
If they hadn't screwed over their fans,
like the Steam Deck
players, I would have been,
I wouldn't have been like you, James.
I would have been like,
I'm gonna wait for it to go on sale,
30 bucks maybe, 20, 28 bucks, whatever.
No, I don't pay full prices for games.
At least triple A games.
I'll pay a full price, like
20 bucks for an indie game.
We'll see, Half-Life 3
coming out this year.
We'll see if you do it or not.
Oh, well, yeah, but Half-Life.
Okay, all right, so
the main justification
over the years for game
developers raising the prices
and also introducing microtransactions
is because game development is expensive.
I'm not going to refute that.
The problem is, is that Rockstar
is going to make this game $100.
If they make this game $100,
they're gonna make $100,
but then later down the line,
they're gonna include fucking shark cards
and make the game pay to win anyways,
much like Grand Theft
Auto Online for GTA V.
Wait a sec, hold up, guys, hold up.
The game about robbing
people and doing theft
and doing things,
they're practicing it also
from their side from selling things.
I don't know that.
I'm kidding, but that's
what it feels like somewhat.
It feels like, they're
like, well, you bought the game,
you're being the
frickin' bad guy, essentially,
and then we're gonna just
take advantage of that, I guess.
Yeah, well, I mean, video
games don't influence anybody
to do anything outside of the game ever.
We know that for a fact, so.
Oh gosh, oh gosh.
You can't tell what
I'm thinking, actually.
We'll leave it at that.
It's like all of those
cyberpunk video games
and movies that are
all like corporation bad,
but they're all funded
by massive corporations.
Unless it's Disco
Elysium, I don't think, yeah.
I mean, that's how
creative works work, right?
Like books and anything that's creative
is gonna push limits of
what's in the current mainstream.
That's how it's worked for millennia.
So, people that get mad at anything
that's slightly
progressive, even if it's like,
oh, corporation bad, doesn't mean
corporations are bad,
but I think, yeah, that was a funny one.
Cyberpunk 2077 dropping and being bad,
about how corporations are
essentially bad in some way,
like if you wanna take it that way,
but then them having their shareholders
push for them to release it
before our stakeholders do,
before it was ready, kind of.
Man, that, oh my God.
It was so funny.
I still love the game though.
I mean, yeah, after
they fixed it, of course.
It ran great on my 3090 back then.
I loved, I liked it back then too.
Okay, the real difference
though is that you had a 3090,
out of 2070.
Yeah, I had a GTX Titan X.
Oh, okay.
Damn.
Titan X.
It didn't run too great.
I bought the PS,
because I was so excited,
I bought the PS4 version,
which came with an upgrade for the PS5.
Partially so that my
friend could play it too,
and it was bad.
No, no, oh my God.
I've seen videos of PS4 Cyberpunk.
It was, oh no.
It was, they deserved, I don't know if,
I think they had a class
action lawsuit against them.
They deserved that.
There really is like,
comes to a point where,
are you selling something that's a lie?
And I think more
marketing needs to get called out.
If you're marketing a
game to look a certain way,
and it does not look like that,
stop marketing like that, come on guys.
False advertising really needs to start
getting punished more.
That was an interesting game,
and an interesting month too,
just Cyberpunk came out, and then Amore.
Also, have you guys
heard of a game called Amore?
Yes, but I've never played it.
So it's like an indie, so garden,
it's like an indie RPG, RPG maker RPG.
It's inspired by
Earthbound and Yume Nikki.
I enjoyed it for what it was.
They came out the same month too,
which is kind of funny
too, because it's hard now.
But yeah, I think it's
kind of ballsy for a game
to come out the same month Cyberpunk did,
even if Cyberpunk kind
of botched the launch.
Dude, when GTA 6 comes out,
I'm really curious
what games are coming out,
and who's planning that?
Dude, is it gonna be shadow dropped?
Then all of a sudden, oh
man, that would be horrible.
I wanna see Half-Life 3 shadow drop
right when GTA 6 comes out,
just to see, I'm just curious.
I know GTA 6 would win, but I'm curious.
GTA 6 would win handily, I think, but--
Not--
I don't know.
Well, it's not coming
out on PC right now.
Oh, that would be
really interesting, too.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, the thing is, like,
if if if Half-Life dropped at $100,
I don't know if I would
buy it like Half-Life 3.
I mean, I did like
granted, I did spend $1,000
to get the headset to play Half-Life,
Alex, when it came out.
But that was I could justify that because
I could play other games with it.
Right. It was hardware.
It was more than just the game.
Right. And I'm struggling to say that I
categorically would not
buy Half-Life 3 for $100.
But it just feels wrong to me
to pay 100 bucks for a game.
Like, even even if it's like GTA 5 or 6
or whatever, where they spent like,
you know, $2 billion or whatever they're
spending to develop it.
Like that that budget feels wrong to me.
Like, agreed.
Like, it's so excessive
and it doesn't need to be that way when
you can make really great games
that I think personally that I find more
fun than a game like GTA
for for like fractions of that budget.
It's like you it's not justifiable.
And it's well, here's the thing.
I think it is.
I think it's unjustifiable
when it becomes a standard.
I actually much rather have a more
variable rate instead of being like,
oh, like on PS5, there's kids games will
come out at 60 where I'm like,
no, this is legit is a $20 game when it
comes out like is why?
Just because they can, because that's the
standard when it releases.
There needs to be a variable rate.
I don't mind paying $100.
Let's say $120.
I don't mind if Witcher 4 was $120.
But all the future DLC that if it's just
like Witcher 3 and it
has really good DLC,
all the future DLC and
everything is included.
There's no like microtransactions or
anything like and they
think it's worth that.
And I'm going to get
two hundred hours again.
I'm going to pay that price.
Yeah, that's where and
how big is their budget?
And some games just
require a bigger budget.
I don't like this arbitrary try to
squeeze as much out.
Fire the developers
afterwards instead of retaining them.
Like I want ethical
reasons for a hundred dollars.
Yeah. Are you going to
retain your developers?
Are you going to do the ethical thing?
Is it going to
trickle down to developers?
What is going on?
That's for me.
I don't think most people are going to
think that way, though.
You know what, though, I
actually agree with that.
And the thing that is interesting is like
they're already selling
games for one hundred dollars.
Right. It's like they have the deluxe
editions and the, you know, ultra deluxe
season pass edition
and all this other crap.
And they don't get you much.
No, it doesn't offer anything extra,
really of value, in my opinion.
And it's like, I don't know.
Just to arbitrarily set the new standard
and say games aren't 60, they're a
hundred dollars now.
It just that's that's what I'm really
feeling so negative towards this, you
know, because of it's just going to let
everyone else do it.
So I will say a lot of people for so.
A lot of companies are going to want to
jack up the prices of their games if GTA
six actually does make it a standard.
You know, the hundred dollar video game
because get this a lot of we don't get we
don't see it this way, but a lot of
regular consumers see like the difference
between a 60 dollar and
a 70 dollar video game.
They think the 60 dollar video game is
worse, therefore it has less value.
Right. So we're going to see a lot of
that happening because, you know, a lot
of a lot of people are going to see that,
you know, they they have a game and they
want people to play it.
But if it's like 70 dollars instead of
100 dollars, people are going to think
it's worse and
they're not going to buy it.
So they have to jack it
up to let people buy it.
So because, you know, so they can say
that it's a high quality
product or whatever. Right.
Potentially, I think
that would have a revert.
Like, honestly, I think that would have
like in today's world of YouTube reviews
with a lot of information.
I think that would have
worked back in the 90s and 2000s.
I think nowadays I don't
know if that actually worked.
And I think once let's say if G.T.
Six does release 100 dollars and everyone
else tries, I think they're going to be
woefully mistaken on that price and
they're going to get screwed over.
And then they're just going to blame
developers or the consumers once again,
like Ubisoft and EA are
just going to blame them.
Well, shit, man. Blame them if they want.
But the consumers did
destroy Ubisoft and EA after all.
Also, one more thing, too, is that I feel
like if it becomes a standard, we can see
indie games rise in price, too, which I
mean is not necessarily a bad thing
because, you know, some of these
developers do deserve more money.
Would you pay 60 dollars for Bellato?
I don't know, maybe would you?
So inflation is a thing
we've got to remember.
I've mentioned this multiple times.
Inflation is a thing is we've the amount
of inflation that's
happened since it's been
the price has gone up to 60 dollars.
It's quite a bit. We
should be paying more.
That being said, what
is the development cost?
What are people still willing to pay that
still like there's such a big market of
games like you think these companies that
are starting to realize that they need to
be competitive again.
Then you might have to drive some of
those prices down potentially even.
So so I will say like, yes, games, even
back in like the Super Nintendo days used
to be 60 dollars, which I think should be
like 150 dollars right now
if taking the calculation.
But also the gaming market has gotten a
lot bigger since then.
There's way more gamers
now than there are game.
There were gamers like back in the 90s.
Right. So that also helped like to like
reduce the prices of video
games or just keep them the same.
You know, 60 dollars
instead of Jack and Michael.
But I think it's going
to be like 150 dollars.
I don't think anyone would buy a video
game for 150 dollars
if that were the case.
Well, the other thing with the Super
Nintendo and 64 and even this base games
was there was an overhead for
manufacturing, which you
don't have now for the most part.
I mean, the switch games do have it, but
you can release it digitally and
digitally still has overhead.
It can still be more
expensive than people realize.
But it is not it is
not the same in any way.
It is much cheaper. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I don't know. Is there anything
else we want to touch on with that story?
I I know that this is very difficult.
It's not even a divisive thing.
You know, most gamers
don't want to pay 100 dollars.
Yeah. But what people say and what they
do, especially if it's GTA
six, I think is going to be.
Honestly, I just if someone wants to
chase six enough,
they're going to buy it.
I think it's going to happen.
And I think GTA six is going to succeed.
But the only way to prevent this feature
is for GTA six to fail.
And that's practically
impossible at this point.
I would love it if GTA six failed.
Honestly, I kind of
would be here for that, too.
And that's going to get a lot of hate.
But I don't know for it.
Dude, that would that has to be a
headliner if that ever happens.
The that would be so
that would be so crazy.
Can you even preorder GTA six right now?
Because you know, you make GTA six fail
is you go on and post an expression
about how, you know, the
eye or something in the game.
I'm I'm already seeing that.
I'm I see that.
I've already seen it, too.
Oh, really? I was joking.
I don't go out there.
Yeah, there's there's D.I.
hires in the video game.
You can you can watch the trailer.
Oh, geez.
There's non white people in it.
Oh, that's it's gotten that bad.
It's gotten that bad. I'm sorry.
I try not to get
political, but like it like I do.
Well, I do get political, but I try not
to get too political on here
because I know it gets really heated.
But it's already happened.
Just enjoy games, guys.
Enjoy diversity.
This is based in Miami, which
is a very diverse city. Yeah.
Very diverse. Vice City, Miami.
Sorry, Vice City.
My city, right. Yeah.
All right.
Let's talk about let's talk about the
Sony leadership kerfuffle
that's happening right now.
So Hideaki, is it Hideaki Nishino
and Herman Hulst were both CEOs.
They were co CEOs of Sony
Interactive Entertainment.
And now Nishino is
the the sole CEO of SEI.
He was going on.
So it's as you said,
Hulst is now serving as the CEO of the
the studio business group.
But he'll still be he'll still be helping
their first party studios.
But he reports a Nishino now rather than
being, you know, co CEOs,
which emotion.
I mean, it sounds like
an emotion, to be honest.
I can tell you what this actually means
of practice, because I'm not a Sony.
I'm not a Sony C-suite,
but it seems like there's some
dissatisfaction with
what's going on with SEI.
And I mean, and with
what was a sixth field
live services that got
canceled or some shit like that?
I mean, shit, man.
So was the Herman the one
that was over the live services?
Was he the one that was
pushing for that then?
So I'm assuming
shareholders probably demoted him.
I believe the
initiative started with Jim Ryan,
who, as we know, no longer works at Sony.
Right. But he but Herman
Hulst kept kept going with it.
And I believe Herman Hulst is also was
also from Gorilla Games.
So it kind of also
explains why Sony is pushing.
It kind of explains why Sony is trying to
push Horizons so much,
because, like, you know,
it's probably his baby.
Gorilla Games is a good studio.
I want them to make
Killswitch, not Killswitch.
Killzone. Killzone.
It's not. Can you
believe it's crazy, man?
Killzone is a universe people like.
I mean, back in the day, it was just
regard as a Halo killer.
But then now we're getting reports that
made that Halo may be
coming to PlayStation 5.
Like, could you imagine getting a Halo on
PS5 before getting a PS5?
Killzone.
Dude, go back and play Killzone for PS4.
It still looks good.
I am shocked how much they were able to
pull out of that game
and how optimized it was.
But yeah, I don't I don't know.
Halo is kind of a
dead series to me. Yeah.
I agree with that. Yeah.
It's sad that Halo has been bad longer
than it's been good.
Honestly, there's a lot of truth to that.
It is. Oh, no. Don't do this.
Cindy, we're going to
get more Xbox Hater covers.
All right. Well, here's the thing.
There's Xbox does a lot of well, they own
tons of good stuff now. But
I've never been the biggest Halo fan.
It's only fun when you
play with other people for me.
Yeah, I mean, I really loved
the story of Halo 1, 2 and 3.
And Reach, Reach was awesome.
I loved the story. I'm a huge Halo fan.
Reach. Yeah, Reach was good.
A couple of their stories were good.
The original trilogy.
The original trilogy, I believe some of
the greatest in game, to be honest.
I mean, yeah, I'm not a
big story opposite on this.
I'm a big story guy.
And I feel like Gordon
Freeman, not talking at all,
has more story in Half-Life
than Halo, like interesting,
which I find interesting.
I actually like both of them on. Yeah.
Like on a similar
level. Right. But like, yeah.
But the fact is, like
Half-Life story was kind of like
added on after they had
built most of the game.
And that's how it's been
for every Half-Life game.
And and Halo approached
it from story almost first,
as far as I understand it.
And so I don't know.
I appreciate them both for what they are.
And I like the
storytelling in Half-Life more
because I don't like having cut scenes
and getting my control
pulled away from me when I'm playing.
That's fair. But yeah,
I just don't think this.
So Halo was revolutionary for its time.
I think it did a good
job. Like I liked it.
But it's just I feel like it was missing
some rudimentary things.
It was very confusing at times.
They didn't they confused
more than expanded on stuff.
The cut scenes didn't help with that.
I feel like they made it
more confusing sometimes.
But yeah, to be fair, Halo 2 story
was only half of what they initially
planned because Halo 2
has a really famous
development health cycle.
You can read all about it, too.
There's so there's so much that they had
to like redo and revamp and recycle.
There's so much of that.
It's a miracle that the game is even like
considered like a nine out of ten.
Yeah, a great story was supposed to be
basically all of Halo 2 and 3.
So yeah, like and so they had
to cut it in half basically.
But yeah, I mean, I don't know.
See, my kind of like I my one of my
favorite stories in games.
I'm just going to go
off complete tangent.
But like Bioshock is like
one of the greatest stories.
I agree with that. I
actually agree with that.
Which Bioshock?
Bioshock one. Infant, it's pretty good,
too, but I like
Bioshock one a little more.
I saw something interesting where I
remember when Bioshock came out,
it was getting rave reviews and now all
of a sudden people fucking hate the game.
It's crazy how like
quickly they turned on it.
Which one, Bioshock? Infinite?
Infinite, yes, infinite.
Not Bioshock one.
It's a it's really weird.
Yeah, because I really liked Infinite.
I thought it was an amazing game.
I really like how they turned it from
deep down to in the sky.
I really love that.
I don't know. I need to go back.
I haven't played it since I played it
since I beat it the first time.
I loved it, though.
I thought it was good.
It's one of my favorite favorite titles.
But, you know, going back to the Halo
thing, the story in Halo.
The only thing you need is
the visuals and the music.
And that tells the whole story to me.
Yeah, I personally agree.
I do agree. Yeah.
I just think my problem is that Halo has
so many good workings in it.
I love the concept of the Halo.
Yeah, the planetary system, right?
Artificial planet, essentially.
I like a lot of the stuff
that they were going for.
And I just felt like
it was very dumb down.
To in my opinion, I don't
feel like they went really.
Complicated for why anything was why it
was like it just didn't for me.
So while I say the storytelling is very
like all over the place
and doesn't explain things well enough,
other times it just doesn't.
It could like, I don't know, I felt like
it could have been more fleshed out.
But for the time, it was really good.
Like, don't get me wrong.
I won't dive into this much more, but I
think for its time, it was good.
It's just I think I have a
little bit of a taint of like
playing Half-Life or playing some other
games where that was just my fixation
and how I liked my delivery
of games or Final Fantasy.
Like I played tons of like
really story heavy games.
So yeah, I understand.
Yeah, so I think Halo's biggest success
was like the presentation because yeah,
the story on paper doesn't sound that
like unique or interesting.
But like the cutscene,
like Halo 2's cutscenes,
they had some like actual
cinematography going on there.
So much so that like the remastered
version of Halo 2,
the anniversary edition,
they basically just use the same
cinematography, but like upgraded
the graphics and like,
the fix and all that stuff.
So it's like I don't
it's not nearly one to one,
but the idea is like
nearly one to one, so to speak.
It's yeah. Yeah.
It like elevates them.
It makes it like look real nice like.
I don't know.
It's definitely more of a remake than a
remap or more of a remake
than like a like a redo.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's fair.
That's fair.
Halo.
Yeah, I mean, what we're talking about.
We were talking about Sony's leadership
and we got off on Halo.
Yeah, that's what we want
to talk about all the time.
But but I mean, the thing is that kind of
leads us to our next story.
Microsoft's bringing Halo to everything
and the Moon Studios CEO
believes Sony is going to follow
Microsoft's example.
What do we think about this high tech?
So for those who don't know, Moon Studios
is the guy are the guys behind
or in the blind forest and the sequel.
And most recently, no
rest for the wicked.
And so. They have they had a relationship
with Microsoft, of
course, with the Ori games.
So I am kind of believe
that's a little biased.
Another new list game is on everything,
and it's not like Microsoft published.
But I do think it
might be a little biased.
I'm not sure if Sony will
push everything on Xbox.
I don't know if they'll
even put anything on Xbox.
So they have they had a set up to like,
you know, death stranding.
You know, that's how you
know how that's on G force now.
So I don't know if this has changed, but
death stranding at one point
was on G force now because it was on PC
and you can you can access G force now
on Xbox, except for that one game.
Except for death stranding,
because Sony mandated it, sir,
because they didn't want people to play
death stranding on an Xbox,
even though it was a PC version that was
published by someone else.
So I'm inclined to believe
that this is not the case.
I think new studios might be wrong.
Yeah, I mean, Sony, I think Sony
understands the importance of having
exclusives for their platform as a as a
driver for their for the
sales of their hardware.
And I don't know if they
would like completely abandon
exclusive with the way Microsoft has.
Everything can't be an Xbox and a
PlayStation at the same time, right?
Right. It has to be one or the other.
I think we're getting
into a world where it's all
companies feel like I say the same thing
every week, potentially.
The companies have to
keep on making money, right?
So every year they need
to make more and more.
So if they can't
reach that, they're going.
That's why they put I think that's why
Sony started putting PlayStation games
on Steam is because they need
to keep on making more money
and keep increasing like how much they
make for their shareholders.
And I think that's why they did it.
So I would not be shocked in 10 years if
people even know what a console is.
A traditional console.
So I mean, yeah, the
thing is, I think Sony,
I think Sony would definitely
like publish all of their first party
games on PC and console.
But I don't think they're
going to do what Xbox is doing
where they get rid of their console or or
just like not treated
as like a first class
citizen in their lineup.
You know, I just don't see that happening
at least anytime soon.
Hardware wise, for sure, like the like we
talked about last week,
the PS5 controller is amazing.
And so I definitely wouldn't want to see
them go away from that.
And I'd like to see that initiative, but
I do like to also see them open up more
and to have like make sure
that this just works anywhere
that their game is, that this works.
And I think that'd be a
huge initiative for them.
And then they could eventually
diverse out of consoles if they really
wanted to and still
have like a solid hardware.
Yeah. But like I want
to see consoles start
taking risks again to where it's like,
why do I buy the like it's
right now, you're just buying
a PC with a very powerful APU.
That's what you're buying
right now when you get console and
and develop like and for
developers, like they have an SDK,
like a really good SDK to work off of and
can guarantee performance
for a certain level beyond that.
Consoles don't offer anything else.
It feels like especially Xbox, Xbox just
doesn't offer anything.
No. So here's something here's something
I want to talk about.
So Sony, as you know, Sony has been
releasing games on PC,
but they usually release them
in like a two year interval.
Like the original God of War PS4 came out
and then two years later,
it came out on PC.
So now my question is, do you
see them shortening that gap
or maybe even releasing them on day one?
Because I mean, I've seen
him shorten the gap already.
Like it didn't they didn't wait two years
to release Spider-Man 2 on PC.
I could see them shortening the gap, but
right now I don't know.
I don't know if they will,
but I could see them doing it.
Yeah. I said last week.
I'm sorry. I think I
think the thing is like if you
don't release your game day one on PC,
you're telling PC gamers to wait.
Right. Like if you have a PlayStation
and an X and a PC, you know, if I did,
then I would wait for the PC version and
I would I would wait.
And if you make them wait too long,
they're just going to wait
for a sale at that point.
Yep. So I don't know.
I think it makes a lot of
sense for them to shorten the gap
because they're going to have their
dedicated hardware guys that
only play on on PlayStation.
And then they're going
to have their PC sales.
And I think that that's
that would be their smart move.
And so now.
D would you buy Astrobond PC, James?
Yes, but I honestly might still would
have bought it on PlayStation 5 first
because, well, it doesn't have co-op.
That's true.
Because if it has co-op, then I'm almost
guaranteed to get it on console
because it's just easier to deal with.
Oh, damn, that is a
that is a benefit. Yeah.
It's just easier, like with my kids and
stuff, it's just going to be easier.
And they've been enjoying the PS5 lately
a lot more, which is nice
because it was
collecting dust for like a year.
But I mean, for certain games, yeah, like
I have I own Ratchet and Clank,
the new one, the Rift, the Rift one.
I have not beat it.
I want to play it on PS5, but then I want
to play it on the Steam Deck.
And so I'm like.
But I haven't bought it for the Steam
Deck yet, but I'm kind of like,
you know, I definitely play that game
where if I know, especially if it's like
GTA six, right, I might buy it day one
for the PS6 if I get talked into it.
But there's a good chance I'll just wait
for the PC if I really want to get it.
Like because mods and everything else,
like why would I not get it for the PC?
Yeah. And buying a PC game just to me
feels like a better investment, like I'll
be able to play it longer on newer
hardware when I upgrade.
Yeah. How do you own the game forever
and not have to worry about if the game's
going to be backwards compatible?
I mean, it depends on
where you buy it from.
But yeah, for the most part,
it's well with a little CD
key kind of a little magic.
With a little magic, it can be forever.
Oh, yeah.
And you can burn it to your own CDs too
or Blu-rays or whatever.
Floppy disk, I mean, I'm
an 80 80 floppy disk person.
Did how many floppy disks around here?
Did how many floppy disks will it take to
store a single like 100 gig game?
Have a call duty.
Oh, God. All right.
We got to do the math right now.
What is the biggest floppy?
You'll see the biggest
one point four or five.
One point four or four
megabytes for a normal.
And then you can jam like a a
density, a higher density one
that was less than one like two eight, I
think you do zip one for four.
For me, I did.
Yeah, dude, that was such a big deal.
So let's see.
So one point four four megabytes is zero
point zero zero one four four gigabytes.
OK. And let's see how
let's see how many copies of.
Let's see how many disks it would take to
store, say, 300 gigabytes for call duty.
You're crazy.
So it would take if my math is correct, I
did 300 divided by zero point zero zero
one four four, it would take
approximately two hundred
and eight thousand three
hundred thirty three point three three
three three three
three three three three.
Floppy disks to store war zone.
You got to round that up.
But yeah, that's funny.
No, I don't want to I don't want to like
have to sift through disk two hundred
and eighty thousand or whatever.
Please insert this two
hundred and eighty thousand.
How long? OK.
How long would it be to copy it?
Because I know some companies have done
like little weird things like this.
But like how long
would it take to copy that?
Is there like a is there like a is there
like a NASA equivalent
for like floppy disks?
I don't know.
Like is there like is there like a USB
dongle that lets you put in like 20
floppy disks and just read
those one big one big one.
It wouldn't make sense, but you could you
could read something.
You could probably do
100 per 10 minutes down.
Wait a minute. How how many was it?
How many how many copies?
You would need about two hundred thousand
two hundred and eight thousand
floppy disks, two
hundred and eight thousand.
A little more than that, actually, but I
don't know the exact number.
It's you can round it up at that.
And then multiply that by.
So that would cost for
one copy of the game.
It would cost approximately five hundred
and eighty two million dollars
if you bought them, if you
bought the disks at retail.
See this. Oh, my God.
This is a feature Rockstar
wants where we spend five hundred
and something million
dollars on a single copy.
I was wondering why I was wondering where
they were starting to buy
like investments in
floppy disk technology.
Right. Oh, here we go.
Two oh eight. Oh, my gosh.
This is this is like our
biggest tangent episode yet.
But you know, it's fun. I'm here for it.
Dude, time. Ninety nine
dollars and ninety nine cents.
Yeah. OK. So if you buy them in bulk,
you can get you can get it for four
hundred and fifteen.
Oh, I'm sorry. That's four
hundred and fifteen thousand.
I read that wrong. It was five hundred
and eighty two thousand.
OK, so that's OK.
That's a lot. OK.
You might be able to afford that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You can buy that out. Yeah.
Just sell your house.
So dude. Oh, yeah, man.
So PlayStation games on PC.
Thank God. Thank God
we have fucking drives
that are like more than a megabyte.
Hmm. Yep. Technology
keeps on getting better.
Yeah. Um, speaking of
playing games indefinitely,
PlayStation drops PSN
account requirements on PC.
How do we feel about this? Good. Yeah.
I feel good. It didn't bother me too
much, but it was still annoying.
And especially for
long term reasons, right?
Like sometimes games when they
slap that on there in like 10 years,
maybe they don't support the PSN network
in such a way anymore.
And it stops working Microsoft.
And this is actually coming from.
I got a lot of this information from.
I think it was the age
of you steam deck HQ.
So go over there and look at
that article that he has up.
But no, that is. But yeah, PlayStation
initially required a PlayStation Network
PSN account for PC games like
Helldivers 2 restricting
purchases in over 170 countries,
which that one was a
crazy when it dropped.
They could pissed a lot of people off.
That dropped about almost a year ago.
While they removed this requirement for
Helldivers 2, the restriction remained.
They had to because
they were going to do it.
Because I don't think it
didn't not ship with it.
It didn't ship with the requirement.
Then they were going
to require it pissed.
Thousands of people off returns occurred
like it was such a dumb mistake.
And I wasn't sure if they
were going to revert it.
They did revert it like this says.
And then however, PlayStation has now
reversed this policy
for upcoming releases
like are they released, meaning they're
continuing to not require PSN
now on games where it previously was like
God of War Ragnarok,
The Last of Us Part 2, Horizon Zero Dawn
Remastered, Marvel Spider-Man 2,
making account linking optional and
offering in-game rewards instead,
which I'm fine with
them going right this way.
If they want to incentivize for them to
use their system, go for it.
But I'm already using Steam and you can
I'm already can save my saves
and a bunch of other
things through there.
Do the trophy program through there.
I don't like some PC players just don't
ever want to have a PlayStation account.
They don't care.
Me personally, I mean, I play both.
I've had PlayStation stuff forever, so it
doesn't bother me as much.
But sometimes on the Steam Deck, it's
really annoying when
that PSN thing pops up.
Yeah. Well, and like for me, I don't I
don't think I've ever played
a PlayStation game that's required it.
But the thing is, I have played Xbox
games that require you to log in.
And it's like, yeah.
And it's like I'm on
my Steam Deck and I take
password security very seriously.
Right. So I'm I'm in a
full screen application.
I don't have access to the keyboard, the
clipboard to copy and
paste my password in.
Oh, gosh, dude, I'm like literally I'm
not going to play Xbox games
because like I'm not going to type in a
70 character password or whatever.
Jesus. You log into my account.
You're ready for that.
I and super computer.
What is it?
The quantum computer got
your quantum passwords out.
Damn. That's a yeah.
Yeah, I hear you on that one.
The other thing about this is that
PlayStation, if there are
if there's one video game company that I
don't trust, it's PlayStation.
But it's just a history
of of like poor security
and like data breaches for for like
literally the last 20 years.
Yeah. You know, I
don't trust them with that.
I take a different stance.
I trust them because I
know it will get leaked.
That's why I always have a
separate password for them.
Maybe I'm even might even well, actually,
technically, I have my old
Yahoo email with them and
I don't use anywhere else.
So like I'm pretty secure.
I know that it's going to leak on
PlayStation, so I'm
pretty prepared for that.
So where the opposite is you get to
assure using GitHub or something else
and you're like, I will never leak, which
I think at this point,
almost every major company has had some
breach, whether they tell you or not.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's kind of disgusting.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure common practices is that
you're supposed to have
a different password
for every single website.
I know not everyone adheres to that, but
that's the common practice.
The most recent guidelines are to have a
unique email and password.
And most services let you do a plus tag
on your email address.
So you can do like what Gardner.
Yeah, you didn't know about this.
You can do like Gardner plus and then
anything and then at whatever dot com
and that plus whatever, like it can
literally be anything.
And it will go to your inbox.
It's typically testing, isn't it? But.
I didn't know that.
Does that actually do like?
So are you protecting from spam and stuff
coming to your inbox
or you're protecting just your email
getting leaked so they can't guess
your email and password
you have to give them?
They have to do both.
Right. So like it it adds an extra layer
of like not really obfuscation,
but like if your email address.
So what typically happens when data
breaches occur is like criminals
will get the the table and what they'll
do is they'll like just go in there
and and find matches.
They it's a naive match between an email
address and known leaked accounts.
And so if you just have that plus in
there, some some of them will get wise
to that eventually.
But right now, like it's it's not worth
the added effort of filtering out
that small like randomness for them to
like go through and find the low
hanging fruit and get
access to those accounts.
Here's my thing.
Here's my
recommendation was was security.
Do multi factor authentication.
Yeah, do multi factor.
That's going to be the best.
Apple has pseudo emails, like meaning
when you sign up for an account,
you can have if you're using an Apple
system, they can give you a pseudo email
to use like so if I'm on my
iOS device like that, like,
do you want to use your real email or do
you want to use a pseudo one
to protect additional
privacy, which is which is nice.
I'll have to admit.
But multi factor is the way to go, guys,
like, yeah, everything should be.
There's more and more security happening
like pass keys, which are nice
because that's one of the things I
actually hate is I hate the password.
I would rather if there is if I could put
in two USB devices into my computer
to then initiate unlocking my system, I
would do it that way
as opposed to passwords.
I just they get
really annoying over time.
I mean, those do exist, I believe.
They do, but they're not supported by
every they're not supported by most
systems. I'll tell you, it's
a lot easier to implement like
to a like TTP kind of thing than it is to
do the stuff like I've looked into it.
It's not that it's not a whole lot
harder, but it's enough
that I just haven't had
time to implement it in my
authentication stuff that I do.
But yeah, TTP is is really good.
Which one's that one?
It's like Google Authenticator or like
the plus or whatever.
So it's like you get the there's the app
on your phone, you tap it
and you get a one time
check that your password.
Yeah, there's a lot.
I mean, people find a way to hack people.
I mean, as far as I'm aware, like,
remember Linus Take Tips?
Remember how he got
hacked the first time?
Like how they stole his cookies.
Yeah, they like hijacked a session.
And that's that's
something that can happen.
It bypassed all of his
two factor authentication.
Like I would think I don't think Linus
would like not have that at all.
But like it just went there anyways.
Thankfully, you two, you
know, got to give us a.
Oh, sorry. There's there's server cookies
are a way to go around that.
So if the service you're
using practices of good security,
you can do server cookies where they
can't do in between attacks.
They have to verify his things.
There's still always going to be some
little ways that they could.
But though like his
attack would have been afforded
if the service he was
using used server cookies.
That was that was YouTube, which is
probably not using server cookies.
So fucking hell, which
is which is ridiculous
because you can't really steal the
cookies from the server based
and you just have an
authentication like that gets re.
We don't need to go into all that, but
like there's a lot of ways to
to not have that happen.
I think the title of this episode should
be the tangent episode.
It is. Oh, I'm so tired.
So I tell you how hard I've tangented.
Did it did to today?
So it's not just you.
Speaking of SOTY,
they filed a DMCA of to Lance McDonald to
remove the bloodborne 60FPS patch.
Just ruining everybody's good crime.
What can so they so as you know,
bloodborne runs at 60FPS on PS4.
And I don't even think the game has a PS4
pro enhancement, much
less a PS5 enhancement.
So the game still runs at 60FPS.
But there is a patch that was made many
years ago for hacked PS4 pros
that lets the game run at 60FPS.
Well, guess what? No more.
Thanks. Yeah.
So are they going to adhere to it?
Did Lance McDonald
adhere or is he going to?
Yes, he did adhere to it because I
wouldn't want to fight a legal battle
against SOTY either.
I just don't know what legal presidents
they have on the frame rate.
I could see other things, but.
According to the screenshot from his
Discord post, they didn't
do it against the patch.
They did it against the
use of the word bloodborne,
which apparently they
have a trademark for.
Couldn't you just change the name, maybe?
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's ever
happened now to be honest.
I I feel like it's pretty tenuous to have
a trademark on the term bloodborne.
Like a bloodborne illness is a thing.
Bloodborne pathogens.
Yeah. Well, you know, they don't have a
trademark on the like
medical term bloodborne.
So they only have it on the
game and like other media.
Do not do wait till Sony's feels like a
hospital for using the
term bloodborne pathogen.
That would be a that would be a sick
subtitle for like a bloodborne sequel.
Bloodborne pathogen.
You know what?
I agree with you on that.
Half of gin.
Like quite a bunch of.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I think that's a good question.
Yeah. You took it too nerdy.
Dude. Yeah, I don't know.
Anyway, that's silly.
And so many come on.
That's.
It's yeah, it is so bizarre, like so.
Yeah, couldn't he just change the name
then and have it work?
Do you think that's
what he's going to do?
What do you said?
He said also, I'm not stupid enough to
try to work around their
copyright to repost it.
That's what he said.
So I guess he's just given up.
So don't worry. It's
on the Internet forever.
True. Yeah, it's probably on
Internet Archive right now.
If you want to.
Hell yeah.
Oh, which which that's
another political topic.
You I do want to I do want to do this.
Like this is kind of like making me like
really want to make sure that people know
that the CDC and a bunch
of other government websites
are having a lot of data purges if they
relate to any certain topic
that the administration doesn't like.
And so there's a lot
of people backing up.
There's a lot of Internet archivists that
are backing all that stuff up.
So if you like articles or certain things
of a certain nature,
you might want to go back up your data
because we're we're getting into a like
an information war, I think soon.
And I only say this partially so that
people are ready for it
because it's interesting.
And I feel like with this type, like with
this game alone, like it's going to be
taken down, but it's going to be
available in different places.
Right. Right. This patch, not game.
But and I think that's important that
it's archived somewhere.
I do like I don't like the idea of losing
people's work that does good.
That does good, I think,
you know, like I think this is
a good patch for the
game to run at 60 frames.
It seems maybe silly to
talk about a lot, but like
a lot of the stuff should be archived.
So can you add to that?
Could the government like DMCA data
that's publicly owned like that,
like stuff that's being
purged from the their website?
DMCA, I don't think
so because it's public.
They can't technically, but it's the
government if they they make the rules.
So yeah, even though it's not supposed to
come from the executive branch,
it's they're not technically supposed to
do what they're doing.
But I don't know.
It's a crazy world.
All right. So I've watched.
I don't know what you guys, but I've
watched a bunch of the coverage
of the new Nvidia graphics cards.
What do you guys think about this?
This is the next story on the
on the on the document here.
The man with the 5000 series.
Now, this is a paper.
Now it's a paper launch
if I've ever seen one.
Yeah. Yeah.
Now explain to us what a paper launch is.
OK, so a paper launch is a product
that only has like a
limited supply in stores.
It's not meant to be a limited edition
product or anything.
It's meant to be a product that's
available all the time
until like next the
next generation, whatever.
But there is so little
there are so few of these cards
sent out of stores that the only people
that got them are scalpers
and like tech reviewers. Mm hmm.
Scalpers again, do damn those guys, man.
How do you see my
community and they jump on it?
So let me ask you a question.
How do you feel about the two thousand
dollar price of a 50 90?
Ridiculous. How do you feel about it
being sold for nine
thousand dollars on eBay?
I was. Oh, I don't care about it.
Like, here's the thing. I don't care.
Like, if you sell me, I'm me personally,
I'm going to buy the 50 70,
have it not perform as well as the 40 90
and then or 40 80 or whatever
they said and then sue
them. So like, whatever.
Did you can't say that they'll use this.
They'll use the podcast
as evidence against you.
I'm not going to sue them.
I know because well, evidence, what do
you talk about evidence?
Like they can't use it against evidence.
But I'm not going to.
I'm messing, obviously, but like the 50.
I'd get the 50 70.
So I would I had to
get this next generation.
I'd probably get a 50 70, 50 80.
But if there's no.
Man, OK, let's just say
we're going to get to a topic
which could maybe be changing and videos
play on this because they do this
every time they do limited releases or
and they do art and we do know.
And this is actually should be.
Prosecuted because I well, I don't
actually don't know, like, but anti.
They do a lot of anti
competitive and a lot of.
Supply shorted shorting on purpose for
demand to drive up demand.
Yeah. It's it's nasty.
I really, really hate this behavior.
Fucking Nvidia.
You know. I don't know.
I watched a bunch of reviews.
And I can't say that I feel compelled to
upgrade from my 3080.
I don't see a reason to upgrade.
Don't you want that multi frame
generation with more,
more generated frames
with like more artifacting?
Oh, my God, I've seen the videos of multi
frame generation and man.
It's not the same thing.
So remember back in the day when you
could like hook up to GPUs,
but you had microstutter.
Yeah, it's it gives off.
Mike, it's not microstuttering, but it
gives off microstuttering vibes.
And it is miserable looking
like when you have a high frame,
it's probably less noticeable.
But like in video saying you can go from
like 20 FPS to like 120 FPS
is ridiculous.
And it's even more
like a straight up a lie.
Yes, you're right.
You are. It's straight up a lie.
And like it like last the last iteration
of this, the single frame generation,
it didn't improve latency and it has the
same problem it does now.
Not to mention
there's even more overhead,
which means your base
frame rate might be even lower.
And that's the thing.
That's the thing that I
noticed because I was like watching.
I don't know if it was the I
don't know which one it was,
but I was watching one of
them and they were talking about
the multi frame generation stuff.
And and I remember when we
were talking about it last time,
I was like, I just don't see how this is
going to help make the
game feel any better.
Like if you have a low frame rate, the
input latency is going to be bad.
And then I was watching
that and they were like, yeah,
if you have a low frame rate, the input
latency is still terrible.
So what's the point?
Like the only thing is like
bringing it up to the refresh,
the native refresh rate of your monitor.
But it's like if you
have a monitor for gaming,
it's going to have free
sync or G-Sync or whatever.
And it's like, what's the point of adding
this multi frame generation stuff,
especially when it knocks 10, 15, 20 FPS
off of your gameplay,
especially if you're playing it at a high
enough frame rate where we'll feel OK.
Like I just don't get it.
I mean, I mean, games
brought it up earlier.
You said that like if you're playing in
VR, this that could be like something.
Right. And I can see like in
something like that would be.
But if your input is not matching it well
enough, it could be worse.
It might actually make it worse. Yeah.
Yeah. So I'm skeptical
of people that have like
hate videos on stuff like this because I
think it's a middle ground.
I think there's like some pluses and then
there's a lot of negatives.
But I I'm not going to buy it.
Like I'm not going to recommend anyone go
out and buy a 5000 series.
I don't. And for multiple
reasons, I don't think it's
it's a 30 to 20 to 30 percent increase,
depending on which card you're getting
over the previous generation, which.
Surprise, surprise.
All they did was just up the cores.
Buy that much, essentially.
There's no new tech.
No, they they're just it's a it's a money
play to release something which.
I don't know.
I there those cores have got to be
cheaper to produce now, so they're just
it all just seems fishy
to me and I don't like it.
And I really, really want a different
company to come in and
start doing more video cards.
That's not Intel. Well, here's the deal.
Like I'm going to jump ahead to the
DeepSeek story, because I think it ties
in with a little bit.
So DeepSeek, right?
Like it's it is like like I don't know
how exactly much more performant it is,
but it is better in almost every way
compared to chat GPT, right?
Like it has better reasoning and it works
on lower end systems
and it works better, right, than than
something else like Lama or whatever.
And it's open source.
And the reason I don't know if you
mentioned it in here, James,
but the reason that it
is working so much better,
it's it works on lower end cards is
because they're not using CUDA.
There was you think it's
the CUDA core tech that's
CUDA is artificially holding back AI.
Oh, artificially.
So on on on consumer
hardware, it absolutely is.
That's what that's my take
from it, from what I've seen.
Well, we do know that they yeah, we do
know that they really
protect their AI tech
because that's how they
become how big they are.
Like they're massive.
I don't think people realize how big
Nvidia is now like now there.
And there's almost no reason for them to
be as big as they are
right now beyond this AI stuff.
Yeah, I I don't know.
Yeah, getting into the DeepSeek stuff.
Yes, yeah.
So DeepSeek, our one destroys the USA AI
tech market, essentially.
It wrecked.
I've heard numbers of up to almost a
trillion being knocked
off of a lot of tech,
but I don't know.
I'm a little skeptical on that.
It's been confirmed.
Nvidia supposedly lost six hundred
billion dollars alone of valuation.
Couldn't have
happened to a nicer industry.
Well, that's the thing.
At the end of the day, it
was a Chinese open sourced LLM.
And the and here's open AI guy.
They're like, this is
this is the best part.
Open AI, Sam comes down and says, well,
they stole it because they
trained it off of our our models.
And I'm like, that's OK.
OK, OK, bitch.
Like, where did you train your data from?
Oh, everyone else is complaining that
you're stealing their
stuff to train off of.
Did you pay for that? No.
So you can set down first off because
you didn't you didn't get your data in a
more like an ethical
way if you want to say.
So I don't know. And this is open source.
So yeah, you know, when I wild, you know,
I heard about the AI
taking over the future.
I kind of imagine they sort of like
Matrix style future where
like we go on all our war against
the machines or, you know, the
Terminator, you know, SkyNet.
Not like this. Not like this.
I mean, that's a good like that.
That is a good I do like that, too.
I don't think we're ever going to get
there because we're going to destroy
things before we get there.
But ourselves, we don't have to worry
about robots doing that.
They might save us.
A little cynical on that.
But the funny thing is, is that you can
like I read about people had about a
dozen around a dozen,
maybe a little bit more Mac pros.
And you could probably
even do this on the Mac.
The Mac pros are M2s.
You could probably get away with just
getting Mac minis and
running the 68 gigabyte,
which is the law. It's around 68, I
believe it could be larger.
But that's what I heard,
which is their large model.
Deep seek R1 and it runs it great.
And just in comparison, that is like
thousands of dollars compared to millions
of dollars of hardware
that it takes to run the one.
And this essential and that's the large
you can I'm seeing people be
able to get some of the small
LLMs to run on like
Raspberry Pi's almost with.
I'm thinking they're kind of
doing some little tweaking.
I haven't seen some of the videos yet,
but I've just I've seen
little clips here and there.
But this is big deal, I think, because it
democratizes, which I
think is a good thing.
It democratizes AI and makes it and it's
open source, which is good.
It makes it more accessible to
individuals and to everyone to do their
own AI if they want or to
set up their own systems
or to even create their own companies
with AI, as opposed to
having two companies,
Nvidia and open AI controlling it.
That's my takeaway on this.
Like, I think it's a good thing.
I agree. I think that
this is a good thing.
I think like being able to be able to run
a model like this on something like a
home lab and being able to have it
jailbroken and running locally and it's
not sending any data over the Internet.
And you be self sufficient
with an AI model that you use.
You connect it to home assistant.
You can then be like, OK,
computer, do this, do that.
Right. That's the kind of
thing that I've wanted for a while.
And like I've been using I have.
Oh, man, that sounds sick.
I have these little things.
This is I can't
remember what this is called.
Is that like a thing?
I've it's a M5 Echo
Atom and it's hard to see.
So it's basically it's literally just a
microphone that you plug in and it
connects to Wi-Fi and it's running an
empty 32 or not empty 32.
One of one of those like small ESP 32.
That's what it is.
And so it's a it's a
small risk five thing.
You can put them in every room in your
house and then you can connect home
assistant to an LLM and it will convert
these convert whatever you're saying into
actual text that home
assistant will then run.
And I have these everywhere.
But the problem is I don't have hardware
in my home lab that can
actually run an LLM efficiently.
But now that this is out and we can do
this kind of stuff, I'm actually really
excited about getting
going back to these.
I bought like a like I don't
know, five or six of these.
I wanted them in every room and I did.
I was going to make a video about it, but
I didn't because it
just wasn't fast enough.
It would take like literally a minute to
process what I said and then turn into a
sneak peek and then gardeners new video.
No, dude, I'm so.
Yeah, this seems right up your alley like
it's all self-contained because you like
to do all your stuff self-contained,
which I'm starting to move towards that a
little bit more too because I'm as I'm
getting tired of services going up in
price or changing from a business side.
It's just getting kind of
frustrating on my for me.
And so my thing is like I want
stability and predictability.
And it seems like the post-capitalist
world that we're living in is all about
instability and unpredictability.
And I don't want that in my life.
Like it's exactly
people want predictability.
And I think that's why they're a little
upset about a lot of things and why I
think we have trends going on the
politics that are the way they are.
They want stability.
And so at least in the tech world, we get
it's very destabilizing for a lot of
these tech companies like and the tech
bubble is very close to
popping because of this.
We'll see because I think the open AI Sam
is like dude, just go the way he's
flopped from 10 like from
four years ago is crazy.
And it's making me
more happy to see this.
I am not usually one to be happy about
things getting destroyed.
But oh, honey, he's in a flop era.
Yeah, right.
Oh, God, you keep calling him.
You keep calling him open AI, Sam.
Right. Yeah.
But like I call him Microsoft Sam just
because of that robot
voice from the right.
Hello. My name is Microsoft Sam.
Like that.
And I am the computer's default.
God, that was so good.
What the hell was that, Gardner?
Why aren't you like a voice actor?
Dude, I feel like I can do it.
Damn.
It's me.
Which I think I've mentioned of my crappy
little server closet with
my home home lab services.
But have you guys seen it yet?
Yeah, I can put some I can post a picture
on the disk or this is a difference from
a video I made a while ago.
This is what it looks like.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, that's great.
It's awesome.
Find a picture of my home
lab because it's pretty.
Yes, I've got a I've got a rack my
server, a rack my switch and a rack.
And I got a monitor
keyboard on top of the switch.
And all of this is on top of a file and a
small filing cabinet.
That like really probably shouldn't be on
top of this filing cabinet
because like a bunch of us just like
hanging off the edge.
And then I think this is a video where I
was installing a new router.
So the router isn't pictured here yet.
But yeah, well, I used to
have some setups like that.
And I could definitely see that's coming
into my future soon.
I've heard about how you can build your
own IKEA server for sure.
Using some IKEA furniture
and like the mother's stuff.
I did.
So was IKEA?
No, Amazon has these rolling racks.
They're not like server racks, but
they're racks that you can post.
I might start doing that.
Oh, I see.
I see Gardner posted a little video.
Oh, shit.
That's from that's from two years ago.
And since then, I've added two more
shelves with multiple like mini PCs.
I've added a Raspberry Pi, like a 3D
printed Raspberry Pi cluster.
And I've added a 10 gig network switch.
Is that a Mac Mini on top?
Oh, wait, no, those two years ago.
Never mind. Those two years ago.
Never mind. I didn't.
Yeah, no, it's the Mac Mini back then.
But that's definitely not that.
Not nothing.
Not the good Mac Mini
that we're thinking of.
No, it's a Mini's forum.
I'm using that as a PF sense router.
I've always wanted to do that.
And I so I went to I went to Reddit.
I went to like the home lab server and
they told me to use Vio West.
I managed to get one up and running, but
I didn't have the APs.
And I didn't want to spend like five
hundred dollars on unify AP.
So I've never heard of that.
It's a I think it was
based on, but it's a V.
Why OS is I forget which operates.
It's based on Linux.
It's not based on free BSD, which I think
is what is what a PF sense
and open sense are based on.
If I'm mistaken.
PF sense is B.
F. B. F. D.
But open sense, I believe, is Linux.
Oh, OK.
I could be wrong about
that, but I'm pretty sure.
But yeah, Vio looks kind of cool.
Yeah, it was entirely command line.
Then there is no like easy to use web
interface unless you install some
sort of plug in and I couldn't figure
that out at the time
because it was like a
couple of years ago.
So like at a lot less experience.
I'm going to try it
again, but like, yeah,
I still don't want to spend five hundred
dollars on unify Wi-Fi access points.
I'm going to Mac Mini.
I'm probably going to get
Mac Mini to start mine out,
but I'll I'll take the shell off and put
it up into like a little weird
rack just so that it can look cool.
No, I don't know.
But like, I think I'm going
to start out with Mac Mini. Oh.
So my fucking video broadcast like
crashed or some bullshit like that.
Yeah, you want to know why you were
talking shit about Nvidia.
Fuck you, Adam Jensen, and your stupid
fucking leather coat.
Oh, damn, Jensen.
Sorry.
Fuck.
What is his name?
That's Hwang.
Jensen Hwang.
I'm thinking of Deus Ex.
Yes.
Oh, my.
My name is Adam Jensen.
I didn't ask for this.
I'm also Batman.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, you think that this is your own.
I mean, I adopted it.
I was born in it.
No big buy it.
Oh, my gosh.
I hadn't seen the
light until I was a man.
And by then it was blinding.
Damn.
Yeah.
Let's just close out the
episode by doing voices.
Are we going to finish up the last year?
We we have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We do have two more.
We have layoffs.
Yes.
So multiverses going offline, which will
probably lead to a
layout from that studio.
Let's be honest,
because that's what happens.
It's unfortunate.
So.
Yeah.
What is what layoffs are happening
because there's always layoffs happening.
But Ubisoft is blaming a lot of stuff on
like I think on just
people not buying their games.
They love pushing that off onto others,
not having any ownership.
But I mean, yeah, people do have to buy
their games to make a profit.
So I guess.
Yeah, you're not wrong and
blame develop the consumers.
But like you probably shouldn't be
blaming them that hard.
You should probably be like, oh, why
don't they want to buy.
Yeah.
Why?
That's the question they're not asking.
Like that level.
Like Assassin's Creed Shadows is probably
their make or break.
If like if this game doesn't work out,
then what are they going to do?
And they postponed it again, I think it
was supposed to release it.
What isn't it supposed
to be releasing right now?
And I think they they
pushed it off again.
They pushed it off to next month.
Which I mean, I'm always down for them to
push for like to make sure
it's like in a good state.
But it definitely has given me a little
bit of apprehension on this.
Like what's going on?
Yeah, what is going on?
I mean, you guys, they're closing down.
Or it's right.
This was they worked on the division and
outlaws and what else?
Skull and bone, skull and bones of
fucking skull and bones.
God damn it.
I haven't even heard of skull and bones.
OK, so this was the game that Ubisoft was
claiming was the first
quadruple a video game.
Yep.
This is the live service game that's
basically just
Assassin's Creed Black Flag.
But like just the pirate portion and it's
multiplayer and it's worse.
Yeah, at least from what I saw.
I know a lot of people
were really excited for it.
Wasn't that the one where
like you would step on a ship?
It's kind of jogging my memory.
You'd step on a ship and like you would
desync based on like where you were.
I think you're
thinking of Sea of Thieves.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, so like you're only you're only
like because that game
you can actually go on foot
and like explore the ship on foot.
Whereas skull and
bones, you are the ship.
It's a vehicle.
It's a vehicle game.
So like yeah, yeah, it I mean, a lot of
stuff I saw about it
looked cool, but I just was
so skeptical about it.
From what I understand when you come out
the gate with marketing
like it's the first quadruple
a game.
I think that raises some red flags.
Yeah, that all the black
flags in this case black flags.
Yes.
So apparently from what I understand,
they couldn't cancel the
game despite it being in
like such development hell because the
government of Singapore,
we're getting political again.
The government of Singapore gave them
money to establish a Singaporean studio.
Ubisoft Singapore, I believe.
Yeah.
So literally they could not cancel the
game if they wanted to.
Despite, you know, the
game not doing not like there.
People weren't that excited.
I will say.
Yeah.
Welcome to.
Welcome to making deals and
you gotta go follow through.
I mean, you got free
money essentially, right?
So you can say that.
Yeah.
And also one more thing too is that
Ubisoft isn't alone.
So as you know, Dragon Age Inquisition
released and performed
about half of what was expected.
But it was but in obviously that
shareholder meeting wasn't just about how
Dragon Age the veil guard.
So I say Dragon Age Inquisition.
I meant Dragon Age the veil guard.
The veil guard.
Yeah.
The veil guard.
They wanted they it was projected to have
three million sales at late at least, but
only had one point five million players.
And it wasn't just that though.
There was also the newest EA FIFA.
I mean FC game.
They can't use the term eat
FIFA anymore because like.
Well, they lost the
like they lost the deal.
I don't know what happened.
But they probably didn't want to spend
sure they were asking for more like the
commit like the whole the FIFA committee.
I don't want to get
started on the FIFA committee.
Let's just say
they're also quite corrupt.
But that's another that's
another topic for another day.
But I firmly believe this is just me.
I firmly believe that EA FC 25 didn't
sell as well because it
didn't have the title.
It didn't have the name FIFA.
And no one knows what an FC is.
It's just football club.
But no one knows what
the fuck that means.
But everyone knows that FIFA is right.
They did it's called FC. I know but it's
abbreviated. Why wouldn't they just?
Mark it as much as possible without
abbreviation. That's
Because you'd probably get a confused
with American football because they also
Doesn't matter
Right on the front cover and then the
people that play those games don't
understand what an
abbreviation is. Yeah. Yeah
I didn't know what a football club was
until I watched Ted lasso. Oh
I'm part of that group. I don't even know
It's like a it's like the premier league
and shit like that. It's like a franchise
Yeah, but Gardner said that makes it for
like soccer or as the Europeans call it
football
Football
Or you mean the rest of the yeah the rest
of the world I should say only aren't we
like the only country that calls it
Yes, because we practice a
different type of football
American football
Where we go go clap we go on the field
clad in armor and just start like tacking
the shit out of each other
I'm excited. I don't even care
Football
But yeah, I firmly believe that
They that the losing they they lost the
FIFA license and so I
believe that's why it suffered
I don't know if that's actually the case
But that's just the way it is
But I'm pretty sure the refc failing is
the main reason why like EA
stock went down substantially
It probably wasn't
because veil guard failed
But of course fail veil guard failed and
as such bioware packed them up moved
Multiple employees to different studios
while Mass Effect 5 is in pre-production
That's their I think that's also that
studios make or break if if Mass Effect 5
doesn't do very well
Biotrock might be done. I
Think so, which I'm really sad about but
you said buddy. Oh now we're making that
now you're making this file where
Whatever. No, I'm did I'm
Yeah, this is gonna be
the fucked up episodes
It's a reason. Okay. Yeah, we talk about
laughs all the time. This is depressing.
Let's talk about something. That's good
multiverse is dying
Dude you know that's gonna lead to a
layoff, right? All right, so here's the
tears the crazy don't like that
It's gonna be yeah. All right. So here's
the thing. So multiverse of season 5
starts in like three days
it starts on the fourth and
it'll last until May the 30th and
Starting from yesterday actually they
disabled all real money transactions
But the game will be playable offline so
long as you download and log into the
game for the end of release
They also say the game will no longer be
downloadable after the 30th
But we don't know if that means like like
that you won't be able to like
Claim the game on your account or like
you can't read download it on Steam if
you ever uninstall it
So we don't know what that means
Here's the thing that you have to buy
cages multiverses and like
if you wanted characters now
You can't I don't think you can buy the
rest of them. I don't even know if
they're in game play
They better be like imagine if like you
got a half half of a game
before the game went offline
That'd be fucked up
dude
there better be
This makes me so mad because it's a load
of horseshit to require
people to download the game
Now and log in in order to be able to
play it after it goes offline
that's just I try not to
swear but that's bullshit and
There needs to be some kind of like
developer made patch that disables that
and enables all characters
After like before the game goes offline
if they're gonna take it offline
I just think like that that's the least
that should be required of
live service game developers, it's like
if you're taking your game off you have
to either give everyone a refund or
enable it to be played offline after
It goes out because well, you know their
parent company Warner Brothers. Oh my
god, so have you seen The Matrix 4?
No, I rewatched.
Alright, so there's this one
so like half for the first half was like
a meta like almost like a meta like
movie so to speak where
Neo in the like new Matrix is the like
the guy the he's the Hideo Kojima
Behind the original matrix trilogy, which
is like a children video games
and so he there's this one scene where he
goes in with his like boss or like
partner or whatever and
Then they're talking about how their
parent company Warner Brothers wants to
make a fourth matrix with or without them
And oh my god. Okay. I am inclined to
believe that Warner
Brothers might be the worst
Company on this list. Yeah,
like a little below Nvidia. Oh
Oh gosh, I I don't disagree with that
I like I have I've heard like some
staunch defending of The Matrix 4
like as a as
Lana which out was isn't Lana which house
here is it? I believe it was Lana
Wachowski. Yes. Yeah, she ended up like
deliberately like sabotaging the script
because she wanted to like
Screw over Warner Brothers and there's
some staunch defending of the movie
From that perspective and I think that
that's pretty cool. But I haven't I
haven't watched it myself
You should yeah
I mean it's objectively like if you were
looking forward to it as like a true
follow-up to The Matrix
you're going to be disappointed because
It's not I'm pretty sure it's like an
anti movie almost because like The Matrix
was known for its
like action choreography
And the action in this is like the actual
dog shit. It's just neo using
like force push on everything
Wow, and then you know in multiverses. I
Know agent Smith is I think the plan was
to have neo in but like I don't know what
happened to that because
Did and Sonic and Sonic
the Hedgehog 3 yeah, oh
Yeah, that's right
Dude I don't know what the hell's going
like multi like okay Warner Brothers
this is the same company that
Canceled completed
movies for tax purposes
Like I understand those movies probably
weren't gonna do well because like the DC
EU was fucked up and they also cancelled
what sounded like a
really cool movie, which is a
Kiyo, I think it was a coyote versus Acme
or whatever and it's supposed to be this
like, okay, so have you heard of it?
So it's the movie is the
premise says that like, you know
Why why Lee coyote he buys a lot of Acme
products and they always
fail to catch the Roadrunner
Well, this was him take go.
This was him going to court
With Acme like the company and it was
gonna be like a 2d. I think from what
I've heard was supposed to get 2d like
Well, he carries in 2d, but like it's
like Space Jam. Yeah
almost but like a court drama
And I thought that would that would have
been the coolest thing ever and they
canceled that I would have been
At least it's unique. How would that
work? He doesn't talk.
He just holds a sign up
Well, I mean that I mean, I don't know I
would like to see how that
I worked. I'm here for it
I want to see that and WB
canceled it and with that girl
unreal
How is
Who is gonna so there's
rumored half-life in the works movie
There's always a rumored but like it's
even stronger this year
that will oh man. There's
If you go look at the list of game
Game based TV shows and movies it is
intense this year
It's really crazy.
You got a link to it. I
Do not right now. My
wife was talking to me
Really but oh my god
Well, so let's see what IGN
says I think we've seen this so
My oh my god Minecraft. Oh, no
No
Trailer for that I have I don't like it.
Oh, it's so ugly. It's so ugly
It's worse than than
original Sonic movie like trailer
I like I will everything that's minecraft
related. I like I don't like the like
In the sense of I think it's interesting.
I don't think I'd watch it
I'm not the target market, but like all
the actors just seem kind of I
don't know why Jack Black why?
And then we have until dawn the movie
Mmm, it could work. I could say it
working. The game is basically a movie
anyways. Yeah moral combat
Hmm maybe
I'm gonna be if you on there. I like Kano
from the new Mortal Kombat movie. Yeah
The movie was good. It's just
wasn't that good. It was okay
Yeah, it was like I I went and I had a
good time. That's it. At least it's rated
R. I'm like the first
Mortal Kombat movies
true
like
And then we have Five
Nights at Freddy's I
Forgot there was a Five Nights at
Freddy's and they're making another
street fighter movie man
this
God damn it. Is it gonna get good this
time? We might need to do we might need
to save that topic for
next time because okay
Okay. Okay. All right.
Well, yeah, you're right
Which ones we think would be
good and which would be bad
All right, I got the I got the article
right here. I'll go ahead and add that to
the document man. Yeah
What the fuck there's so many this year
Dude I'm looking at the half-life
Like some of the rumors
I do you remember when when JJ Abrams was
like attached to do like not only a
half-life but a frickin portal movie
Yep, do you attach to
do like a Halo movie?
No, that was um
Well, what's his name?
Frickin gosh darn it
The guy who did Elysium and
Yeah, I mean this is nine
district nine, yeah, yeah
Yeah, I remember that was
supposed to be a halo movie
District nine wasn't but he like did a
bunch of like the halo 3 marketing and he
was attached to also do
The like the movie and
that would have been Oh
Amazing if he had actually gone through
with that, but have you seen it James?
the halo 3 like the halo
Like the believe the campaign. Yeah, the
believe campaign was one of them. There
was another one that where
There's a bunch of like I
have or not. I feel like
I've seen a lot I've seen so much stuff
over the years that I
just what did it now?
So it came out like around like halo 3
like before the
launch of halo 3. Oh, yeah
Yeah, and there's like this one like
Dude, I can't watch that those videos
without actually crying like the the the
Tableau to the raindrop prelude
Like with the with all the little figures
of the Covenant and the Marines
God damn it that makes me like it gives
me chills just thinking about it
And then when like they have like the
faux documentary about
how the Museum of Humanity
Like after defeating after humanity
defeated the Covenant the Museum of
Humanity was created
And they like interviewed all of these
like veterans and stuff
and it's like all live-action
And they have really great actors in
there, and it's just it's so moving and
goddamn have you seen halo landfall
It
Was like a short little like yeah, we
should we should do you
know what we should do
We should watch it
right now for the audience
For next time because I am going
To go crazy. Yeah, I think we should do
it next time though because it's really
Put it on the list.
Yeah, let's do it. All right
But yeah, I mean anyway,
we're off topic again multiverses
Bye bye, I guess I
Mean, I know I think it's not a surprise.
I'm I'm surprised it lasted this long
honestly. Yeah, I've seen this well
Here's the thing though
Multiverses shut down earlier and then
came back so this is like the second time
it's died. What the hell?
Yep, WBB what is wrong with you WB?
I
They tried and then it's not making the
money that they want and
so they're shutting it down
It's not like they make
a lot of good decisions
No, I'm surprised.
There's still a company
Well, you know there's a company because
they like to like get tax. They like to
not pay taxes obviously I
Mean they're writing on the Harry Potter
coattails right now. That's
true. They do have a couple of
Cash cows that they're still milking.
Yeah, wait what all right Hogwarts legacy
Because I was thinking wait with a making
a new Harry Potter movie now that no
doing a new show on HBO
It's a Harry. It's like they're just
redoing Harry Potter as a show on HBO.
Yeah. Yep. That doesn't really scream
Hey Potter's only screen HBO
Cuz it's like a chill. It's like oh, it's
like a children's book
Well, you're gonna see Snape's ass when
that's that's gonna bring in the views
god. Oh my god. It is
gonna bring in the views. I
Can't wait for the first season sex
scenes not what you see with it. What
what teachers? Yeah, dude,
but they're gonna have like
I think because the Harry Potter movies
had pretty good actors too. They had like
Alan recommend as a Snape too and
Some of the others like oh don't they'll
never be able to outdo Alan Rickman
So and also who was a dump who's an act
for Dumbledore the second night
Dumbledore? Yeah, I
can't remember his name
He's really good. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean
McGonagall was awesome
Maggie Smith right
and I mean like most of
What was his name the guy who did
Hagrid was awesome, you know and he
passed away recently. So oh shit
Yeah, I
Mean, I just don't I don't know why
they're redoing it. They don't need to
There's only one. There's only one reason
why they're redoing it
I'm just shocked that they're not like
continuing some stories or doing some
other stuff in the universe because I
think the universe is fun
But they gotta stop rehashing this whole
Same story. Well, they were trying to do
that with the myth the
Fantastic Beasts series and
but like these
the last one
was a
Little confused. I heard it kind of was
and they were supposed
to make more of those
Because we never saw the final battle
between Dumbledore and Grindelwald
But yeah, obviously that I think they
canceled those movies if not mistaken
And then I think one of the principal
characters was played by Ezra Miller,
which as you know,
there's a complete psychopath
I'm surprised the flash
movie even came out and
There were two characters played by Ezra
Miller and they were both the flash
They should have gotten the guy from the
CW or whatever. I don't know his name. I
Don't know. It's crazy
Wb very crazy
I mean they were so eager to
cut out and were heard from
From the Aquaman sequel like they reduced
her like role like quite substantially,
but they still kept Ezra
Miller. It's like movie
Yeah, I
Mean, yeah, that's true. I don't know. I
don't know why they didn't
do it or why they kept it
Well with that we've gone off topic
This episode was off the rails in a great
way. I've had a lot of fun guys
It is really fun. I've had a lot of fun.
I am lost now on what we're talking about
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