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Good morning, everybody. It is another
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episode of Off the Console,
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the hottest podcast about tech
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and gaming and anything nerdy.
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We're here today with my
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friends, James and HiTechLilLife.
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How's it going, guys?
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Going to and fine. How about you?
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Doing all right now that I'm on the show.
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This week, we've got
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some like crazy news.
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DeepSeek, R1 kind of
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upset the entire tech industry
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and wiped a bunch of
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valuation off of Nvidia stock.
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We'll talk about that.
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We're going to talk about the tariffs.
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We're getting political guys.
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We're going to talk about it.
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And also, there's a ton of Sony news this
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week that we're going to cover.
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And like a ton like it's
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half of our document this week.
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I know. So we like to start this show off
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with talking about what
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everybody's been playing this week.
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What have you guys been playing?
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James.
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Ah, I have been playing the news game.
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I've been looking at
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Apple News and also Reddit and
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trying to stay away from X because it is.
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It's a cesspool, but
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yeah, no, honestly,
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what have I been playing?
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There's a reason they call them
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excretions when you post something on X.
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Dude, that is amazing.
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I love that.
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I think that makes me want to use it more
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now because it's stupid.
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I've been watching my wife play Ratchet
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and Clank on PS5, actually.
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Funny. Oh, nice.
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That's a that's a fun
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game that I've not beat yet.
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I should pick it up on PC.
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It's a good one. It's like I forgot how
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good that game looks.
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Insomnia, insomnia is so good.
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And I'm making games.
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I know Spider-Man 2 came on PC, too.
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Also developed Insomniac.
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Yep, they're really like
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they're top tier developers.
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Would you say better than Naughty Dog?
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I'm different. That's a hard one.
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Really? In terms of what I like.
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Yeah, you don't like Naughty
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Dog games that much, though.
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So as as for me, I
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guess I've been playing
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Blotrow still trying
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to 100 percent the game.
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It's pure insanity.
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But I also am playing
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Marvel Rivals as as usual.
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I also got this new game
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called a needy streamer
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Overload Typing of the Net. It's OK.
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All right. So the bit was so there's
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going to be some spoilers,
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but I'll tell you what it is.
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So it's basically like a typing game.
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Like think of like typing of the dead.
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But instead of typing like actual words,
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you type in like in that slang.
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And it's the funniest shit ever.
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And there are some really deep cuts.
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Like you'd have to be a four channeler to
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like know what these are.
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Like nice digits is one.
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Do they have for who goo gods?
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I don't think I've seen that yet, but
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there's some not for who goo gods.
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There's a lot of like we have.
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There's like a lot of we do
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references to it. It's crazy.
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But then when you beat the game,
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there's actually a whole secret second
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game that's like not advertised at all
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in the game itself.
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That's your spoiler warning. Nice. Nice.
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But yeah, just me mostly
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trying 100 percent Bellatro.
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And it's going to take a while.
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I bet you if I actually took this
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seriously during like last year,
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I probably would have
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finished by now, but you know.
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Oh, so you've been playing it for.
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Oh, wait, Bellatro
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you're talking about, though.
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Yeah, Bellatro. I've been
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trying to 100 percent it.
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So the requirements for 100 percent
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Bellatro is a you have to beat
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the game with every deck on the highest
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difficulty gold state.
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And in order to do that, you
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have to beat each individual.
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You don't like a lot.
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You like a lot of difficulties for the
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deck you're playing.
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So like you don't just I'm not golden and
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you can just play all the mongol.
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You have to like go
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through every single like level
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with every single deck.
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And then you have to get a gold sticker
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on all the jokers, which means
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you have to beat the game with
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all of the jokers in inventory
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at some point in time.
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Oh, that sounds intense.
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That sounds like some I don't know.
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And then you have to be all the
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challenges, but I'm not
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going to worry about those
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until I gold star gold
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sticker, all of them.
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Wow. I mean, it sounds
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like a fun challenge.
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I don't know if I could do it.
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I 100 percent at half life.
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To an episode.
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I don't think I was able to know.
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I think I did all the episodes
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also half life to an episode.
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That's about it.
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Yeah.
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100 percenting.
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I don't have the
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patience to 100 percent games.
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Like I really the only actually the only
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game I did 100 percent was Spelunky.
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And that took years for me to do.
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Damn. Yeah.
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That's Spelunky Spelunky.
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Oh, my God. Spelunky one.
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But I think it.
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Yeah.
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Like it was like.
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There's a like a whole secret level that
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you have to get that.
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There's like nearly impossible to get to
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unless you have the right like run.
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Basically, I think it was like Eldorado.
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I believe it was.
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Yeah, or something like that.
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It's like a city of
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gold or some sort of gold.
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Dude, I mean, and eggplant run is crazy.
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Like everything about
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that game is just insane.
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So yeah.
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Games are.
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I don't know if I
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actually fully 100 percent of it,
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but that's as close as I've ever come.
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Like I I did.
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I think I've been to every level and I've
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killed pretty much every enemy
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that you can get in your journal.
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OK, are you sure you said it?
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No, no, I'm saying I don't think I did
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now that I am thinking back on it.
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I think you might have to go back to it.
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I don't know.
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Is that it?
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You're not going to
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get fact checked here.
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You could just say it.
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It'll be so.
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Half Life's an easy one.
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Half Life 2 is a fun one 100 percent
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because like their achievements
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are just fun to go out and find like
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going find the vertigo
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that's like in this sewer system that's
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roasting headcrabs to eat.
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You know, that was one of the
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achievements is just fun stuff.
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So it was a fun one to do.
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There's.
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Man, so like.
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I heard some other
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interest, Gungeon, like a while ago,
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and that took a while too, because you
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have to get every done
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and a lot of them requires.
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I don't know. It was a lot.
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And then they added more stuff after I
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100 percent the first time.
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So I had to do it again.
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Yeah, man.
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I hate when that happens, to be honest.
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That when vampire survivors like 100
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percent of that game,
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and then they just kept making updates
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and now I'm probably like
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at most 50 percent done.
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That's what Astros kind of like.
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Astros come out with a couple extra, but
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I played it right after.
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So technically, there's supposed to be
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like 300 bots, but then you can get
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like once you had 300, the new levels
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unlock and you have like 18 more
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you have to get. So because they're like
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Christmas specials and stuff.
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They are. Can you only get
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it during Christmas time?
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No, well, I don't think so.
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It was just unlocked.
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So you become like you
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have Santa Claus outfit on.
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You're playing a snow level.
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It was really honestly like I know I keep
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on praising that game.
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It's just it brings me back to the good
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old days of making really good games.
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And it had some complexity to it.
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So like it's what gamers want, right?
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They don't want unfinished games.
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They don't want, you know,
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a lot of extra crap at it.
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They want free stuff. That's like.
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What that game is, there's no DLCs.
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They have new content comes out. It's
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I play I'm playing it almost
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a year after it's released,
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but there is no real bugs in it.
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So it's really good.
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What I've been playing this week,
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it's I've been so I was it last Monday?
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I posted a video about like emulating the
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3DS on your on your steam deck.
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And a bunch of people in
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the comments were like,
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you need to do VR 3DS stuff.
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And I was like, is that
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even possible? What? And.
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So I ended up screwing around with this.
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Which looks ridiculous,
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because it's too small for my head.
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Oh, wow, that's a narrow.
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Is that the is that the
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venture or the venture? Yeah.
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And and it's actually pretty neat.
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They sent this to me a long time ago.
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And like when it first came out and like
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there wasn't like wide support for it.
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And it was like making
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me feel a little sick.
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So they were like, you
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don't have to make a video.
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It was making you sick.
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And so and they didn't ask for it back.
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So I never did, but I never sent it back.
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But then I had it in my
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drawer and I was like, hey,
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I could probably do
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this with my steam deck.
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And there's a frickin decky
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loader app or decky loader plugin
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that will turn your your steam deck into
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like a virtual screen.
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And it's pretty neat.
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So I've been just doing that and trying
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out different games.
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And you can't really do VR like that on
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here, because it's like.
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I don't know how to explain it.
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It just it doesn't do
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like the depth on each eye.
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It with the decky loader app,
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but it's pretty neat anyway.
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So if you switch into desktop mode,
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there's like a I
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think it's called Breezy.
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There's an application that
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will help you do VR stuff.
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And you can do side by side mode.
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Anyway, I've been messing around with
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that and it's pretty neat on
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and trying to get the
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three years emulator to work.
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Hasn't haven't played
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playing the game in 3D on.
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Wait, it doesn't.
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Wait, you say what you said
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it doesn't do that perception.
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That's my bad.
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Well, so each each
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lens has its own screen
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and you can do like side by side mode
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where it will split an image
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if it's rendered in 3D in the device.
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But it doesn't work as far as I've seen.
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It doesn't work with like Steam VR.
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So so it does.
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You can't play like VR titles on this.
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But you can play games in 3D.
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Sorry, what?
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But you can do like 3D.
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Yeah, so like if the game if
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like you're watching a 3D video
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or you're playing a game that renders in
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like a side by side thing,
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then you can set up this to do that.
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That's pretty cool.
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Yeah, and there might be a
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way to do Steam VR on here.
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I don't know for sure.
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I haven't I haven't been
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able to figure it out yet.
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But I'll probably make a video about this
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because it is really neat.
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Have you tried using?
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If either of you guys tried using those
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glasses on and like a flight?
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No.
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Really tempted to try to get some.
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I'll tell you like
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I'll tell you like that.
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I am really interested to try it on a
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flight because when I'm if I'm on
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a those chairs are so uncomfortable and
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I'm like six foot three
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and so like sitting there
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and hunched over like this.
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It like kills my neck.
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So hold on.
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Hold up.
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You're six foot three.
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Yeah, I did not know that.
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No, that's crazy.
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Oh my gosh.
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That's crazy.
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I know that really tall like everybody I
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know is like I forget how
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tall you are until I come back to you
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like until I see you in person.
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01:11:46,375 --> 01:11:47,583
Wow, that is probably the
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01:11:47,583 --> 01:11:49,375
biggest news for the last week.
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01:11:49,375 --> 01:11:50,083
And there's a lot of news.
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01:11:50,541 --> 01:11:51,250
Oh my god.
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01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:54,833
I'm also 36 which feels crazy.
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01:11:54,833 --> 01:11:56,041
You're doing what you're
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that no, I'm just kidding.
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01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:03,625
Yeah, not by much though, right?
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01:12:03,625 --> 01:12:05,000
We talk about that last week.
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Dude.
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Dude, what that's crazy man.
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You're six foot three.
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I didn't know that and that's for taking
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and that's for taking on
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the flight.
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I do have I don't have pictures.
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I do have I have the raid nears.
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I think they're called the air to use.
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Fast similar.
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I do want to take them on a
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flight and try them out there.
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01:12:23,958 --> 01:12:24,666
I'll let you know how it
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is, but I'm pretty sure.
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I mean, I'm pretty sure is gonna be a
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good experience because I
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01:12:29,458 --> 01:12:30,958
mean, why wouldn't it be right?
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It's better than fucking like you said
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like lunch crunching
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down a player steam
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deck or whatever, right?
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01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:41,000
It's more or less just to relax and kind
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of forget about everything
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else as much as possible.
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01:12:43,875 --> 01:12:46,333
Yeah, see the thing is I'm really I'm
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super sensitive to like VR
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like nausea and stuff.
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So I have to like turn off the shade
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darkening that it does like
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you can see through the shade here and
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you can see that like
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the reflector there but like when the
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screen is on those the
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shades automatically darken and so it
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like excludes everything
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01:13:09,125 --> 01:13:10,916
so you can just focus on the image.
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But if I'm focusing on the
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01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:16,208
image and it's static and moving
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01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:19,375
with my head, it makes me so sick.
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01:13:19,791 --> 01:13:21,958
What's the what's oh, yeah, sorry.
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01:13:22,333 --> 01:13:23,250
Well, I was gonna say like if
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I turn on like follow mode on
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on in the XR app, then it then
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I'll move and then the screen
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01:13:32,958 --> 01:13:35,333
will start will like move after right
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01:13:35,333 --> 01:13:36,958
like so it's it gives
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01:13:36,958 --> 01:13:38,333
you that sense like there's
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a screen floating out here.
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01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:41,083
That's moving rather than
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01:13:41,083 --> 01:13:43,625
having it stuck to your view and
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01:13:43,791 --> 01:13:44,875
that helps tremendously.
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01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:47,875
But also if you turn off the darkening
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01:13:47,875 --> 01:13:49,208
when screen is active
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01:13:49,875 --> 01:13:51,958
it's enough visual information did not
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01:13:51,958 --> 01:13:53,000
cause me to feel sick
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01:13:53,333 --> 01:13:55,291
because actually I was on the treadmill
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01:13:55,291 --> 01:13:56,583
with these and I was
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01:13:56,583 --> 01:13:59,375
watching a YouTube video and I was very
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01:13:59,375 --> 01:14:01,125
impressed by how that
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01:14:01,166 --> 01:14:01,875
how work.
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01:14:02,208 --> 01:14:03,125
Yeah, that's cool.
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01:14:03,666 --> 01:14:04,666
I wish my awesome.
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01:14:04,666 --> 01:14:05,541
I wish my glasses
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01:14:05,541 --> 01:14:07,250
electric from a dimming.
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01:14:08,958 --> 01:14:10,208
So it's really nice.
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01:14:10,666 --> 01:14:11,833
What's the refresh rate on
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01:14:11,833 --> 01:14:14,500
those like I don't know I cuz
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01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:16,166
that's a huge part of nausea.
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01:14:16,375 --> 01:14:17,750
Like if you have a lot of
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01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:18,875
motion sickness and stuff like
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01:14:18,875 --> 01:14:21,500
that, it's usually comes down
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01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:23,000
to both the game performance
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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,041
and refresh rate of the I wear isn't
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01:14:26,041 --> 01:14:27,458
yours like 120 gardener.
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01:14:27,666 --> 01:14:30,708
I believe I am not not sure
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01:14:30,708 --> 01:14:31,875
I'm googling it right now.
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01:14:31,875 --> 01:14:34,958
Well, even if refresh rates of 120 you
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01:14:34,958 --> 01:14:35,500
got to make sure the
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01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:36,708
game or whatever you're doing
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01:14:36,708 --> 01:14:40,708
is matching that or and that
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01:14:40,708 --> 01:14:42,833
could be worth DLSS like we've talked
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01:14:42,833 --> 01:14:44,416
about before and FSR
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01:14:44,416 --> 01:14:45,916
like frame generation could
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01:14:45,916 --> 01:14:47,250
actually be nice even though
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01:14:47,291 --> 01:14:49,000
you'll get artifacting if
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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:49,791
you're doing if you're doing
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01:14:49,875 --> 01:14:52,375
AR or stuff like that
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01:14:52,375 --> 01:14:53,250
you're going to want that.
452
01:14:54,708 --> 01:14:56,500
Yeah, I mean 120 Hertz is
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01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:59,666
what it says which I can't argue
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01:14:59,666 --> 01:15:00,916
with that but I can tell you
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01:15:00,916 --> 01:15:02,166
that my steam deck does not
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01:15:02,166 --> 01:15:04,125
generate that amount of frames.
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01:15:05,416 --> 01:15:07,375
Then you just need you just need someone
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01:15:07,375 --> 01:15:09,208
that Nvidia multi-frame
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01:15:09,291 --> 01:15:12,041
generation turn your 30 and yes and 120.
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01:15:12,375 --> 01:15:12,583
Yes.
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01:15:13,125 --> 01:15:14,083
Well, here's the thing.
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01:15:14,083 --> 01:15:14,666
I don't know.
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01:15:14,875 --> 01:15:15,958
Did we talk about this yet?
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01:15:16,166 --> 01:15:17,833
But there's a there's a
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01:15:17,833 --> 01:15:20,750
plug-in for decky loader to enable
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01:15:21,583 --> 01:15:22,500
especially games that use
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01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:25,000
DLSS to enable FSR 3 on them.
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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,333
No, I haven't seen that.
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01:15:28,083 --> 01:15:29,250
Yeah, so some games can get
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01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:31,083
a pretty big hit like bump up
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01:15:31,083 --> 01:15:32,708
and performance and then
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01:15:32,708 --> 01:15:34,500
obviously if it's 30 or lower it
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01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:36,125
doesn't okay.
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01:15:36,125 --> 01:15:38,625
Well, yeah, I'll get out to try that out
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01:15:38,625 --> 01:15:39,666
later on my own time.
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01:15:40,666 --> 01:15:41,041
Yeah.
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01:15:42,083 --> 01:15:44,333
Well, I think with that we
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01:15:44,333 --> 01:15:45,458
should move on to the stories
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01:15:45,458 --> 01:15:46,083
of the week.
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01:15:46,291 --> 01:15:46,500
Huh?
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01:15:47,125 --> 01:15:47,625
Yes.
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01:15:48,708 --> 01:15:52,416
Yeah, well actually before we
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01:15:52,416 --> 01:15:53,791
get to the news we should we
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01:15:53,791 --> 01:15:55,625
should ask everybody who's listening and
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01:15:55,625 --> 01:15:56,958
watching to subscribe
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01:15:57,375 --> 01:15:58,458
to the show.
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01:15:58,833 --> 01:16:01,375
If you enjoy these like three
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01:16:01,375 --> 01:16:02,916
hours long discussions about
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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,166
dirty and tech stuff make sure you
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01:16:05,166 --> 01:16:06,208
subscribe to us on YouTube.
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01:16:06,708 --> 01:16:09,041
You can follow the RSS feed in your
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01:16:09,041 --> 01:16:10,166
favorite podcasting apps
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01:16:10,583 --> 01:16:11,333
we're on Spotify.
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01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:13,458
We're on is it Apple music now?
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01:16:13,458 --> 01:16:15,583
I was going to say iTunes and you can
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01:16:15,583 --> 01:16:16,708
engage with the show
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01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:19,875
through comments on YouTube or on the
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01:16:19,875 --> 01:16:21,708
Fetaverse where at off
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01:16:21,708 --> 01:16:23,375
the console show at
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01:16:23,375 --> 01:16:25,000
podcast dot subscribe to me.
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01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:29,208
Yeah, we we are I think we
502
01:16:29,208 --> 01:16:30,250
should at some point and start
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01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:32,083
including comments that people leave
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01:16:32,083 --> 01:16:32,541
because we're getting
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01:16:32,541 --> 01:16:34,416
some now on YouTube which I
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01:16:34,416 --> 01:16:36,541
think is really important to
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01:16:36,541 --> 01:16:37,333
engage with.
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01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:38,666
Ask questions to like
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01:16:38,666 --> 01:16:39,875
hey, we need to start.
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01:16:40,416 --> 01:16:41,291
Answering some questions if
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01:16:41,291 --> 01:16:42,791
you guys have questions and ask
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01:16:42,791 --> 01:16:43,625
them in the comments of
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01:16:43,625 --> 01:16:45,250
all try to pop them on in.
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01:16:45,250 --> 01:16:46,291
I think that'd be really fun.
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01:16:46,708 --> 01:16:47,333
I agree.
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01:16:47,625 --> 01:16:48,416
I think that would be great.
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01:16:48,791 --> 01:16:50,250
How many subscribers do we have now?
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01:16:50,875 --> 01:16:53,833
We've got 273 on YouTube.
519
01:16:54,625 --> 01:16:55,875
I don't know how many we have on like the
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01:16:55,875 --> 01:16:57,041
other podcast software,
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01:16:57,041 --> 01:16:59,500
but like yeah, I think
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01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:00,333
we're doing pretty good.
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01:17:00,833 --> 01:17:01,791
I think we're getting lots
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01:17:01,791 --> 01:17:03,750
of views and downloads too.
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01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,916
So it seems like people are enjoying the
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01:17:05,916 --> 01:17:07,583
show which I'm happy
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01:17:07,666 --> 01:17:08,041
about.
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01:17:08,791 --> 01:17:10,666
Um, cool.
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01:17:10,666 --> 01:17:11,083
All right, you guys
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01:17:11,083 --> 01:17:12,041
want to get political.
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01:17:13,625 --> 01:17:14,250
A warning.
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01:17:15,791 --> 01:17:16,250
Hello political.
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01:17:17,166 --> 01:17:19,250
This is gonna be
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01:17:19,250 --> 01:17:21,541
interesting territory to tread into.
535
01:17:22,708 --> 01:17:25,000
So Trump apparently wants to issue
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01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,458
tariffs to Taiwanese
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01:17:26,666 --> 01:17:30,750
chipmaker TSMC with supposedly 100%
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01:17:31,208 --> 01:17:33,416
tariff on on all things
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01:17:33,666 --> 01:17:35,000
which James you were saying before we
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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,125
started could end up
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01:17:36,291 --> 01:17:36,708
stacking.
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01:17:37,333 --> 01:17:39,833
So like multiple components in a build
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01:17:39,833 --> 01:17:41,458
would get like would
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01:17:41,458 --> 01:17:42,375
mean you'd have more
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01:17:42,375 --> 01:17:44,166
500% tariff or something.
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01:17:44,750 --> 01:17:45,916
Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be
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01:17:45,916 --> 01:17:46,958
quite like that, but it would
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01:17:46,958 --> 01:17:48,541
be stacking a sense of
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01:17:48,541 --> 01:17:51,208
like they're a terror.
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01:17:51,208 --> 01:17:52,666
Yeah, it's gonna be nasty.
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01:17:52,958 --> 01:17:53,958
Let's just say that well, I
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01:17:53,958 --> 01:17:56,375
honestly have been like I have
553
01:17:56,375 --> 01:17:57,458
checked out of politics
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01:17:57,458 --> 01:18:00,666
because I had too much opium and then
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01:18:00,666 --> 01:18:02,541
it all vanished in an instant.
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01:18:03,166 --> 01:18:04,583
And so I've checked out of politics.
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01:18:04,791 --> 01:18:05,750
So I'm gonna need one of
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01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:06,875
you guys to tell me about this
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01:18:06,875 --> 01:18:07,958
because I don't know.
560
01:18:08,541 --> 01:18:13,458
Okay, so Trump wants to
561
01:18:13,458 --> 01:18:15,125
tear wants to issue a tariff to
562
01:18:15,166 --> 01:18:18,083
Taiwan up to 100% tariffs
563
01:18:18,083 --> 01:18:20,041
because they you know, they
564
01:18:20,083 --> 01:18:21,458
want American chip
565
01:18:21,458 --> 01:18:23,125
manufacturers to be protected or some
566
01:18:23,125 --> 01:18:24,125
bullshit like that because
567
01:18:24,125 --> 01:18:25,375
everyone's going to TSMC.
568
01:18:25,583 --> 01:18:29,208
Yes, even Intel is going to TSMC too.
569
01:18:29,208 --> 01:18:30,041
If I'm mistaken, they started
570
01:18:30,041 --> 01:18:31,916
doing that with a arrow Lake
571
01:18:31,916 --> 01:18:32,333
and whatnot.
572
01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:35,458
And to be fair Intel's
573
01:18:35,458 --> 01:18:38,291
foundry seem to be not able to do
574
01:18:38,375 --> 01:18:40,875
like low nanometer process.
575
01:18:40,875 --> 01:18:41,833
I think they've been stuck on like 10
576
01:18:41,833 --> 01:18:43,250
nanometer for years,
577
01:18:43,250 --> 01:18:45,083
right? They've been stuck in 10
578
01:18:45,083 --> 01:18:46,291
nanometers like that 10
579
01:18:46,291 --> 01:18:47,125
minute process.
580
01:18:47,375 --> 01:18:50,375
They've been stuck on a nanometer.
581
01:18:50,375 --> 01:18:51,208
I don't think it's 10 though.
582
01:18:51,208 --> 01:18:51,541
I think I'm pretty
583
01:18:51,541 --> 01:18:53,083
sure it's lower than that.
584
01:18:53,291 --> 01:18:54,375
I'd have to look it up though.
585
01:18:55,291 --> 01:18:56,000
They were stuck on
586
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,625
something that for a long time if I
587
01:18:57,625 --> 01:19:00,208
recall but Intel is still stuck like
588
01:19:00,208 --> 01:19:01,500
we're pretty much hit
589
01:19:01,583 --> 01:19:03,583
that like theoretical limit, I think.
590
01:19:05,333 --> 01:19:08,333
Yes, and so the problem with
591
01:19:08,333 --> 01:19:11,916
this is that everything uses
592
01:19:12,083 --> 01:19:16,500
chips, computer chips and two of the in
593
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:18,416
like here's a problem
594
01:19:18,416 --> 01:19:19,666
with doing this.
595
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:21,458
Everything uses chips.
596
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,375
Everything is going to go up in prices
597
01:19:23,375 --> 01:19:25,208
and like even things
598
01:19:25,208 --> 01:19:27,375
that aren't necessarily chips like
599
01:19:27,375 --> 01:19:29,375
fucking food and stuff
600
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:30,416
that gets transported by
601
01:19:30,416 --> 01:19:32,666
cars that may have chips inside
602
01:19:32,666 --> 01:19:33,125
them, correct?
603
01:19:34,833 --> 01:19:35,916
That's probably the price too.
604
01:19:37,791 --> 01:19:38,791
Yeah, it literally will
605
01:19:38,791 --> 01:19:40,625
affect almost everything.
606
01:19:41,250 --> 01:19:42,791
Maybe even your toaster if
607
01:19:42,791 --> 01:19:47,375
it's an Xbox but it's I'm sorry.
608
01:19:47,375 --> 01:19:48,375
I'm going to keep on with that.
609
01:19:48,375 --> 01:19:49,166
I really like that.
610
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,208
So so Intel is that
611
01:19:52,208 --> 01:19:53,500
stuck at five nanometers.
612
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:59,375
I think AMD is like a step below that.
613
01:19:59,375 --> 01:20:00,458
But I'd have to look that up.
614
01:20:00,458 --> 01:20:00,916
Yeah for me.
615
01:20:01,125 --> 01:20:01,958
I mean, there's I believe is
616
01:20:01,958 --> 01:20:03,958
where AMD is but Intel's been
617
01:20:03,958 --> 01:20:05,916
stuck between seven and five for a while.
618
01:20:07,208 --> 01:20:09,500
But here's the thing guys.
619
01:20:11,375 --> 01:20:12,833
There's a reason why we get
620
01:20:12,833 --> 01:20:15,958
our chip sets and most chips get
621
01:20:15,958 --> 01:20:17,666
made in Taiwan.
622
01:20:18,791 --> 01:20:20,000
They have the tech.
623
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,083
They have the know-how the
624
01:20:23,083 --> 01:20:24,333
copyrights and everything.
625
01:20:25,666 --> 01:20:27,375
We have really good relations
626
01:20:27,375 --> 01:20:29,875
with Taiwan and we've continued
627
01:20:29,875 --> 01:20:30,375
to do that.
628
01:20:30,375 --> 01:20:32,416
It's caused major issues with China
629
01:20:32,416 --> 01:20:33,583
because China doesn't
630
01:20:33,583 --> 01:20:35,083
want Taiwan to exist, right?
631
01:20:36,666 --> 01:20:39,791
And so it's all a mess.
632
01:20:39,791 --> 01:20:41,125
I don't know why Trump's
633
01:20:41,125 --> 01:20:44,083
going after Taiwan who's been a
634
01:20:44,083 --> 01:20:47,250
really big ally with us except for he
635
01:20:47,250 --> 01:20:48,500
wants to usually with
636
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:50,000
tariffs like a little bit
637
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:50,666
of background with tariffs.
638
01:20:50,666 --> 01:20:52,750
Tariffs are usually meant
639
01:20:52,750 --> 01:20:55,625
to push domestic produce.
640
01:20:56,083 --> 01:20:57,208
It's usually meant to like
641
01:20:57,208 --> 01:21:01,041
try to punish another country or
642
01:21:01,041 --> 01:21:02,500
not a country but like an you know, an
643
01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:03,500
import that's coming
644
01:21:03,500 --> 01:21:07,750
in to then do it domestically is
645
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:09,083
oftentimes but the last
646
01:21:09,083 --> 01:21:10,250
time we had a major tariff
647
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:13,750
war it nearly wrecked us and
648
01:21:13,791 --> 01:21:16,458
destroyed multiple politicians lives
649
01:21:16,458 --> 01:21:17,916
about a hundred years
650
01:21:17,916 --> 01:21:20,375
ago a little and then.
651
01:21:21,166 --> 01:21:23,458
With these tariffs that
652
01:21:23,458 --> 01:21:24,375
are going on right now.
653
01:21:26,083 --> 01:21:29,416
They are going to they don't
654
01:21:29,416 --> 01:21:30,458
like with tariffs like what
655
01:21:30,458 --> 01:21:31,500
we found out over years
656
01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:32,958
because we still use tariffs every
657
01:21:32,958 --> 01:21:33,833
once in a while still like
658
01:21:33,833 --> 01:21:35,000
we've used them over decades,
659
01:21:35,666 --> 01:21:36,750
but they're very strategic.
660
01:21:37,916 --> 01:21:38,666
But they always
661
01:21:38,666 --> 01:21:40,833
trickle down to the consumer.
662
01:21:40,833 --> 01:21:42,833
They're never paid by the
663
01:21:42,833 --> 01:21:44,833
companies on the other side.
664
01:21:44,833 --> 01:21:46,750
They're paid by domestic companies.
665
01:21:47,166 --> 01:21:48,125
So anytime we buy anything,
666
01:21:48,125 --> 01:21:49,458
they're just going to include
667
01:21:49,583 --> 01:21:50,916
like everything's made and everything.
668
01:21:50,916 --> 01:21:51,333
They're just going to
669
01:21:51,333 --> 01:21:52,791
include that price tag to us.
670
01:21:53,583 --> 01:21:55,458
So this ends up always like
671
01:21:55,458 --> 01:21:57,250
and tell like what would be
672
01:21:57,250 --> 01:21:59,250
the most strategic thing is open up.
673
01:21:59,375 --> 01:22:00,500
Well, here's the thing, but
674
01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:01,541
the Biden administration did
675
01:22:01,541 --> 01:22:04,041
a chips act to start doing
676
01:22:04,041 --> 01:22:06,666
more domestic made it chips.
677
01:22:07,416 --> 01:22:08,250
That's the way to do it.
678
01:22:08,250 --> 01:22:09,541
And then if you want to once
679
01:22:09,541 --> 01:22:11,041
it's up and running and doing
680
01:22:11,166 --> 01:22:12,500
really well, you could then
681
01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:15,000
implement tariffs to then do
682
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,208
more domestic and that's
683
01:22:16,208 --> 01:22:17,458
the correct way to do it.
684
01:22:17,458 --> 01:22:18,291
If you want to go that
685
01:22:18,291 --> 01:22:19,333
route, you don't just like
686
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:20,791
well, I want to be domestic.
687
01:22:21,291 --> 01:22:23,625
It might take decades and and like
688
01:22:23,625 --> 01:22:25,583
royally fuck over our
689
01:22:25,583 --> 01:22:28,750
whole tech scene and
690
01:22:28,750 --> 01:22:31,541
potentially give even more wins to
691
01:22:31,666 --> 01:22:32,333
other countries.
692
01:22:32,333 --> 01:22:33,125
And though I don't like
693
01:22:33,125 --> 01:22:34,333
looking at it that way.
694
01:22:35,125 --> 01:22:36,666
This is going like if this
695
01:22:36,666 --> 01:22:38,625
does go through which Trump
696
01:22:38,625 --> 01:22:40,500
keeps on going back and forth on on
697
01:22:40,500 --> 01:22:41,541
tariffs back and forth
698
01:22:41,541 --> 01:22:42,083
on tariff.
699
01:22:42,083 --> 01:22:43,375
So we'll see if this goes through.
700
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:46,833
I'm really curious.
701
01:22:47,875 --> 01:22:48,125
Yeah.
702
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:51,875
I don't I don't want to get
703
01:22:51,875 --> 01:22:53,458
into like politics, right?
704
01:22:53,708 --> 01:22:55,750
Like I just don't I find it very
705
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:57,750
obnoxious and I don't
706
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:59,166
know but at the same time,
707
01:22:59,166 --> 01:23:00,875
it's like it's clear to me
708
01:23:00,875 --> 01:23:03,250
that like this guy doesn't
709
01:23:03,250 --> 01:23:05,958
know anything about trade and
710
01:23:05,958 --> 01:23:08,666
he doesn't know anything about like
711
01:23:08,666 --> 01:23:10,416
business even though
712
01:23:10,416 --> 01:23:12,041
he's like supposed to be a businessman.
713
01:23:12,958 --> 01:23:14,958
So that's my that's my take
714
01:23:14,958 --> 01:23:16,750
like I the fact that he keeps
715
01:23:16,791 --> 01:23:17,625
going back and forth.
716
01:23:17,625 --> 01:23:18,708
It means that he's he's
717
01:23:18,708 --> 01:23:20,541
listening to many different people
718
01:23:20,541 --> 01:23:21,166
who are telling him many
719
01:23:21,166 --> 01:23:22,500
different things, right?
720
01:23:23,375 --> 01:23:25,541
And I just it doesn't stand
721
01:23:25,541 --> 01:23:26,583
for anything as far as I'm
722
01:23:26,583 --> 01:23:26,875
concerned.
723
01:23:27,458 --> 01:23:28,958
He wasn't just a businessman.
724
01:23:28,958 --> 01:23:30,791
He was the businessman.
725
01:23:31,208 --> 01:23:32,250
He I think he I remember he
726
01:23:32,250 --> 01:23:33,416
had his own show like back in
727
01:23:33,416 --> 01:23:35,666
the like the early 2000s and
728
01:23:35,666 --> 01:23:38,500
then his his catchphrase was
729
01:23:38,791 --> 01:23:39,541
you're fired.
730
01:23:40,291 --> 01:23:41,333
It was always the funniest
731
01:23:41,333 --> 01:23:43,333
shit ever but man that wouldn't
732
01:23:43,333 --> 01:23:44,708
and that I don't know man.
733
01:23:44,958 --> 01:23:45,791
I don't yeah, you're
734
01:23:45,791 --> 01:23:46,666
I'm with the gardener.
735
01:23:46,666 --> 01:23:47,125
I don't really like
736
01:23:47,125 --> 01:23:47,958
talking about politics.
737
01:23:48,166 --> 01:23:50,125
But yeah, this is something that directly
738
01:23:50,125 --> 01:23:52,041
affects our interests
739
01:23:52,291 --> 01:23:54,208
and livelihood like look at this.
740
01:23:54,208 --> 01:23:55,500
It's gonna jack the prices
741
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:56,708
of basically everything and I
742
01:23:56,708 --> 01:23:57,416
was looking forward to
743
01:23:57,416 --> 01:23:58,583
building a new computer this year
744
01:23:59,166 --> 01:24:00,458
and I might have to accelerate those
745
01:24:00,458 --> 01:24:02,416
plans because of the
746
01:24:02,500 --> 01:24:03,583
incoming tariffs like
747
01:24:03,583 --> 01:24:05,875
fuck man like what was it?
748
01:24:05,875 --> 01:24:06,541
I was gonna build like
749
01:24:06,541 --> 01:24:07,541
let's say you were gonna build a
750
01:24:07,541 --> 01:24:10,208
computer that was like $2,000 right?
751
01:24:12,375 --> 01:24:13,208
I could probably see that
752
01:24:13,208 --> 01:24:15,958
rising maybe even doubling too
753
01:24:16,583 --> 01:24:18,541
like imagine how fucked about be.
754
01:24:19,583 --> 01:24:20,375
It could potentially yeah
755
01:24:20,375 --> 01:24:23,833
that $2,000 Nvidia video card
756
01:24:23,833 --> 01:24:25,500
it's gonna be $4,000 potentially.
757
01:24:26,041 --> 01:24:29,041
Yeah, I mean I don't think
758
01:24:29,041 --> 01:24:30,583
all of it is done through
759
01:24:30,583 --> 01:24:31,166
TSMC.
760
01:24:31,166 --> 01:24:32,708
I'm sure the physical
761
01:24:32,708 --> 01:24:34,125
materials are done through China
762
01:24:34,375 --> 01:24:35,458
but like the chips are
763
01:24:35,458 --> 01:24:36,625
definitely done through TSMC
764
01:24:36,625 --> 01:24:37,458
if I'm not mistaken.
765
01:24:38,458 --> 01:24:40,041
He's he's doing a
766
01:24:40,041 --> 01:24:41,250
blanket on a lot of the stuff.
767
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:45,000
So it might say TSMC but Trump isn't
768
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:45,750
necessarily going to
769
01:24:45,791 --> 01:24:46,750
target just one company
770
01:24:46,750 --> 01:24:48,291
if he's targeting typically
771
01:24:48,583 --> 01:24:49,000
countries.
772
01:24:49,875 --> 01:24:51,250
He might he might have like
773
01:24:51,250 --> 01:24:54,541
minions targeting specific
774
01:24:54,666 --> 01:24:55,708
companies in those but
775
01:24:55,708 --> 01:24:57,000
typically he's been trying to
776
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,208
do more like if he says
777
01:24:59,208 --> 01:25:00,333
electronics is probably going
778
01:25:00,333 --> 01:25:00,833
to cover it.
779
01:25:01,041 --> 01:25:03,375
Once again, we don't know he
780
01:25:03,375 --> 01:25:04,541
goes back and forth on this
781
01:25:04,541 --> 01:25:05,083
whole thing.
782
01:25:05,083 --> 01:25:05,833
I'm not trying to be
783
01:25:05,833 --> 01:25:08,333
political like I don't mind being
784
01:25:08,333 --> 01:25:09,500
political but I'm trying not
785
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:11,833
to be like this is just the
786
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,125
realistic nature of actions and
787
01:25:15,125 --> 01:25:16,500
consequences kind of stuff.
788
01:25:17,458 --> 01:25:20,000
We he said he's going to do tariffs.
789
01:25:20,208 --> 01:25:21,208
I mentioned he was going to
790
01:25:21,208 --> 01:25:22,500
do tariffs back early November
791
01:25:23,375 --> 01:25:25,041
and there's a good chance
792
01:25:25,041 --> 01:25:25,958
he's going to do it even though
793
01:25:25,958 --> 01:25:27,166
I don't think any of his
794
01:25:27,166 --> 01:25:29,291
visors want him to do it for
795
01:25:29,291 --> 01:25:30,000
some reason.
796
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,166
He has got it in his mind
797
01:25:31,166 --> 01:25:33,500
that he wants to do tariffs and
798
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:34,541
he has recently said that
799
01:25:34,541 --> 01:25:36,666
it's one of his favorite words to
800
01:25:36,666 --> 01:25:37,958
say is tariffs.
801
01:25:37,958 --> 01:25:40,458
I so it is once again, the
802
01:25:40,458 --> 01:25:41,541
reason I only bring this all
803
01:25:41,583 --> 01:25:43,250
up is because I try to be
804
01:25:43,250 --> 01:25:44,458
very skeptical that this is going
805
01:25:44,458 --> 01:25:44,958
to happen.
806
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:46,916
But if this does happen, this
807
01:25:46,916 --> 01:25:49,500
is going to fuck everyone over
808
01:25:49,666 --> 01:25:51,250
this year that wants to buy anything
809
01:25:51,250 --> 01:25:52,333
electronic because it's
810
01:25:52,333 --> 01:25:54,000
going to somehow hit you
811
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,041
whether it's 10% increase whether
812
01:25:56,166 --> 01:25:57,625
it's a 50% increase.
813
01:25:58,166 --> 01:25:59,833
We don't know yet and we
814
01:25:59,833 --> 01:26:01,250
might not know until it actually
815
01:26:01,291 --> 01:26:04,250
happens because yeah,
816
01:26:04,666 --> 01:26:07,125
even the uncertainty of it.
817
01:26:07,125 --> 01:26:07,708
Will he do it?
818
01:26:07,708 --> 01:26:09,208
Will he not do it is
819
01:26:09,208 --> 01:26:11,291
having an economic toll, right?
820
01:26:11,583 --> 01:26:14,208
Like that it just I don't know dude.
821
01:26:15,458 --> 01:26:18,000
It bothers me in a lot of ways because
822
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,375
it's like I can I can
823
01:26:20,583 --> 01:26:22,083
I can get behind some of
824
01:26:22,083 --> 01:26:24,041
the sentiments for people like
825
01:26:24,083 --> 01:26:25,333
wanting tariffs, right?
826
01:26:25,625 --> 01:26:26,833
Like, you know, I want
827
01:26:26,833 --> 01:26:28,041
more domestic manufacturing.
828
01:26:28,250 --> 01:26:30,666
I want more domestic like
829
01:26:30,666 --> 01:26:32,291
food production because a lot of
830
01:26:32,291 --> 01:26:34,041
our food comes from China, right?
831
01:26:34,541 --> 01:26:36,541
It's like I want more of agriculture.
832
01:26:36,791 --> 01:26:38,250
I want more things locally.
833
01:26:39,666 --> 01:26:40,708
Create jobs, right?
834
01:26:40,791 --> 01:26:41,791
Hey, that's a good thing.
835
01:26:42,375 --> 01:26:44,750
But if it's not done, right,
836
01:26:45,375 --> 01:26:47,333
it will have the opposite effect
837
01:26:47,333 --> 01:26:50,041
of what we want and you know,
838
01:26:50,041 --> 01:26:50,958
people are complaining about
839
01:26:51,083 --> 01:26:53,916
prices now, but like prices
840
01:26:53,916 --> 01:26:55,958
will go up across the board on
841
01:26:56,083 --> 01:26:59,000
everything and you know, half of the
842
01:26:59,000 --> 01:26:59,708
things he was running
843
01:26:59,708 --> 01:27:00,583
on was like, oh, yeah, I'm
844
01:27:00,583 --> 01:27:01,541
going to bring the price of eggs
845
01:27:01,583 --> 01:27:04,166
down. It's like dude, dude
846
01:27:04,166 --> 01:27:05,333
doesn't even know you don't need
847
01:27:05,333 --> 01:27:06,750
an ID to buy a loaf of
848
01:27:06,750 --> 01:27:08,916
bread for God's sakes, right?
849
01:27:09,083 --> 01:27:10,458
Like he said that once or
850
01:27:10,458 --> 01:27:12,333
twice on the game and it's like
851
01:27:12,666 --> 01:27:13,291
what do you talk?
852
01:27:13,291 --> 01:27:14,333
He doesn't he's so disconnected.
853
01:27:14,833 --> 01:27:15,958
It makes me upset and that's
854
01:27:15,958 --> 01:27:18,000
why I don't tune into politics
855
01:27:18,083 --> 01:27:18,416
anymore.
856
01:27:19,333 --> 01:27:20,791
It's that's a tactic.
857
01:27:20,791 --> 01:27:22,625
It's not he I don't think he believed it.
858
01:27:22,625 --> 01:27:24,708
It's a tactic to say this other and no
859
01:27:24,708 --> 01:27:25,458
one facts checks them
860
01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:25,791
anymore.
861
01:27:26,291 --> 01:27:29,291
Yeah, so and anyone can say
862
01:27:29,291 --> 01:27:30,375
this bloke learn if this gets
863
01:27:30,375 --> 01:27:32,375
you upset like you need to go check.
864
01:27:32,958 --> 01:27:34,375
I just check out a politics
865
01:27:34,375 --> 01:27:35,208
of this is getting you upset
866
01:27:35,291 --> 01:27:37,458
because I try to too, but
867
01:27:37,458 --> 01:27:43,083
it's really hard with the like
868
01:27:43,375 --> 01:27:44,041
talking about the food
869
01:27:44,041 --> 01:27:45,375
stuff like we actually produce.
870
01:27:45,791 --> 01:27:47,416
I don't think people understand how much
871
01:27:47,416 --> 01:27:48,583
we produce domestically
872
01:27:48,583 --> 01:27:49,375
on a lot of stuff.
873
01:27:49,375 --> 01:27:50,875
We actually produce a lot of food,
874
01:27:51,375 --> 01:27:52,416
California, especially
875
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,125
produces a lot of food.
876
01:27:54,666 --> 01:27:58,125
And so like we we there's it's world
877
01:27:58,125 --> 01:28:00,875
trades because it's no
878
01:28:00,875 --> 01:28:01,166
country.
879
01:28:01,708 --> 01:28:03,291
It can be a hundred percent good at
880
01:28:03,291 --> 01:28:05,250
everything and usually
881
01:28:05,250 --> 01:28:06,208
you like to specialize.
882
01:28:06,208 --> 01:28:07,166
That's usually how it works.
883
01:28:07,375 --> 01:28:10,000
The problem is is that then
884
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,791
if you end up in a bad dispute
885
01:28:11,791 --> 01:28:13,208
with that country where they're really
886
01:28:13,208 --> 01:28:15,000
good at mate like Taiwan
887
01:28:15,375 --> 01:28:17,916
making chips, then your products go up.
888
01:28:18,208 --> 01:28:20,250
But that's the thing people might get
889
01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:21,166
upset at Taiwan, but
890
01:28:21,166 --> 01:28:22,125
we do the same thing.
891
01:28:22,125 --> 01:28:23,000
We're doing it right
892
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,500
now to other countries.
893
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,875
And so that's why we want to
894
01:28:27,875 --> 01:28:29,708
have that's what a diplomat is
895
01:28:29,791 --> 01:28:30,041
for.
896
01:28:30,291 --> 01:28:31,791
I don't know why Trump's trying to be a
897
01:28:31,791 --> 01:28:32,625
diplomat like we have
898
01:28:32,666 --> 01:28:34,500
diplomats to go and talk and do
899
01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:37,375
negotiations, but ultimately
900
01:28:39,375 --> 01:28:40,791
I think no matter what even if
901
01:28:40,791 --> 01:28:42,708
this does not go through this
902
01:28:42,708 --> 01:28:44,083
might even trigger some
903
01:28:44,083 --> 01:28:46,791
companies to raise their prices
904
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:48,916
just out of anticipation and
905
01:28:48,916 --> 01:28:50,000
they'll just won't say anything
906
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,291
like well, we thought maybe so and then
907
01:28:52,291 --> 01:28:53,166
they've justified it
908
01:28:53,166 --> 01:28:54,000
multiple times.
909
01:28:54,583 --> 01:28:55,666
It will be very interesting
910
01:28:55,666 --> 01:28:57,416
to see like what Nvidia does
911
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,500
because the CEO of Nvidia
912
01:29:00,500 --> 01:29:03,875
just met with I don't know if we
913
01:29:03,875 --> 01:29:06,250
have it in our new things, but he met
914
01:29:06,250 --> 01:29:07,375
with Trump yesterday
915
01:29:07,375 --> 01:29:10,291
I believe about all the stuff going on.
916
01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:11,958
So like with the tariffs
917
01:29:11,958 --> 01:29:13,875
and a couple other things so I
918
01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:19,000
man, so fucking Nvidia will
919
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,166
take every opportunity to jack
920
01:29:20,166 --> 01:29:20,875
of the prices of the
921
01:29:20,875 --> 01:29:22,708
graphics cards and the network bring
922
01:29:22,708 --> 01:29:25,666
it down and AMD is also complicit too.
923
01:29:25,666 --> 01:29:27,333
They don't direct they are the ones
924
01:29:27,333 --> 01:29:28,250
leading the charge, but
925
01:29:28,291 --> 01:29:30,250
they're the most okay with it because
926
01:29:30,250 --> 01:29:32,125
they'll like they'll
927
01:29:32,125 --> 01:29:36,041
make it graphics card that like is $100
928
01:29:36,041 --> 01:29:37,500
cheaper, but it's like
929
01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:39,583
75% the performance and it doesn't even
930
01:29:39,583 --> 01:29:40,625
have great retracing
931
01:29:40,666 --> 01:29:42,416
performance and that really
932
01:29:42,416 --> 01:29:44,041
pisses me off about fucking
933
01:29:45,083 --> 01:29:45,541
AMD.
934
01:29:46,875 --> 01:29:48,666
I'm also curious.
935
01:29:48,791 --> 01:29:49,750
Yeah, that's the thing like
936
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:51,666
you can never expect prices to
937
01:29:51,666 --> 01:29:53,916
go down for like that's a
938
01:29:53,916 --> 01:29:55,375
little I think a little bit of a
939
01:29:55,375 --> 01:29:56,500
perception of like capitalism
940
01:29:56,500 --> 01:29:57,458
like you're always should be
941
01:29:57,458 --> 01:30:00,833
trying to get the lowest cost item like
942
01:30:00,833 --> 01:30:01,666
whatever like unless
943
01:30:01,666 --> 01:30:03,333
you have really good manufacturing and
944
01:30:03,333 --> 01:30:04,666
automated manufacturing
945
01:30:04,875 --> 01:30:06,333
and really automated systems
946
01:30:06,333 --> 01:30:08,291
there there becomes a point
947
01:30:08,375 --> 01:30:10,291
where you can't can't reduce
948
01:30:10,291 --> 01:30:11,833
it much more and I'm wondering
949
01:30:11,833 --> 01:30:13,750
because I think China has been doing
950
01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:17,166
better have better pay
951
01:30:17,291 --> 01:30:20,125
for their employees same with Taiwan.
952
01:30:20,125 --> 01:30:20,833
I wonder if some of the
953
01:30:20,833 --> 01:30:22,458
costs going up is because those
954
01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:23,708
countries are doing better and
955
01:30:23,708 --> 01:30:24,708
so some of that's been offset
956
01:30:24,875 --> 01:30:27,000
to even other second world
957
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,583
countries because China is
958
01:30:28,583 --> 01:30:31,083
really growing from their boon and tech.
959
01:30:31,791 --> 01:30:35,000
So it's a very complex system that I
960
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:35,791
don't need to go into
961
01:30:35,791 --> 01:30:39,250
too much, but it's I try not
962
01:30:39,250 --> 01:30:40,625
to jump on the whole like it
963
01:30:40,625 --> 01:30:42,791
went up in price bad kind of thing.
964
01:30:42,791 --> 01:30:44,416
I want to know why but
965
01:30:44,416 --> 01:30:45,708
definitely Nvidia it definitely
966
01:30:45,791 --> 01:30:46,708
feels like sometimes the
967
01:30:46,708 --> 01:30:49,125
Nvidia just does it just a and they
968
01:30:49,125 --> 01:30:49,791
they've kind of
969
01:30:49,791 --> 01:30:50,916
bragged about it too before.
970
01:30:51,208 --> 01:30:51,250
Yeah.
971
01:30:51,250 --> 01:30:52,916
So well Nvidia is like to
972
01:30:52,916 --> 01:30:54,541
the point where you know
973
01:30:54,583 --> 01:30:56,666
graphics card sales to to
974
01:30:56,666 --> 01:31:00,000
gamers is like chump change
975
01:31:00,166 --> 01:31:01,500
right like they want to
976
01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:04,500
sell a hundred thousand GPUs to
977
01:31:04,583 --> 01:31:06,083
Enterprise, you know
978
01:31:06,083 --> 01:31:07,125
server forms or whatever.
979
01:31:07,125 --> 01:31:07,625
That's true.
980
01:31:08,291 --> 01:31:10,750
So they might just be jacking up the
981
01:31:10,750 --> 01:31:12,375
price because it helps
982
01:31:12,375 --> 01:31:14,125
them on the other side rather than
983
01:31:14,125 --> 01:31:15,833
actually are yeah like
984
01:31:15,833 --> 01:31:17,458
there's actually a lot about that.
985
01:31:17,458 --> 01:31:18,000
There's some news
986
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:18,916
articles over the years.
987
01:31:18,916 --> 01:31:19,583
I forgot about that.
988
01:31:19,583 --> 01:31:20,500
That's actually one of the
989
01:31:20,500 --> 01:31:22,875
things that they some insider
990
01:31:23,083 --> 01:31:24,416
leaks kind of stuff.
991
01:31:25,541 --> 01:31:27,458
Once again, I don't know source wise.
992
01:31:27,458 --> 01:31:29,083
This is more rumors than I think that
993
01:31:29,083 --> 01:31:29,875
that's what they do.
994
01:31:30,291 --> 01:31:30,916
And if I'm not mistaken,
995
01:31:30,916 --> 01:31:32,083
I've read that this is also why
996
01:31:32,083 --> 01:31:34,208
Nvidia likes to like really
997
01:31:34,208 --> 01:31:35,958
short changes on VRAM because
998
01:31:36,583 --> 01:31:38,583
they don't want us to have powerful
999
01:31:38,583 --> 01:31:39,958
graphics cards to run
1000
01:31:39,958 --> 01:31:41,208
like these AI models.
1001
01:31:41,208 --> 01:31:42,875
They want us to buy the
1002
01:31:42,875 --> 01:31:44,875
really expensive Enterprise models
1003
01:31:44,875 --> 01:31:46,166
because those have way more
1004
01:31:46,166 --> 01:31:48,250
VRAM and yes, they are better
1005
01:31:48,250 --> 01:31:50,416
suited for AI but like they
1006
01:31:50,416 --> 01:31:51,250
don't want people at home to
1007
01:31:51,291 --> 01:31:52,625
be having enough VRAM to run
1008
01:31:52,625 --> 01:31:53,750
these AI models on their own
1009
01:31:53,791 --> 01:31:54,125
computers.
1010
01:31:55,458 --> 01:31:56,333
And that's why anything
1011
01:31:56,333 --> 01:31:58,833
short of like a 5090 has has like
1012
01:31:58,875 --> 01:32:00,541
16 gigs of VRAM at most.
1013
01:32:02,541 --> 01:32:04,291
Oh, we'll get it.
1014
01:32:04,291 --> 01:32:05,708
Let's just say a little sneak peek a
1015
01:32:05,708 --> 01:32:06,625
little bit later that
1016
01:32:06,875 --> 01:32:08,083
Nvidia got some.
1017
01:32:09,541 --> 01:32:11,333
They got what they deserved
1018
01:32:11,333 --> 01:32:12,458
a little bit and hopefully it
1019
01:32:12,458 --> 01:32:14,291
sticks but we can we'll
1020
01:32:14,291 --> 01:32:15,000
talk about that later.
1021
01:32:15,708 --> 01:32:17,958
Yeah in the meantime, let's
1022
01:32:17,958 --> 01:32:19,916
talk about the hundred-dollar
1023
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,000
video game.
1024
01:32:21,708 --> 01:32:22,166
$100.
1025
01:32:26,416 --> 01:32:27,791
got to do it so I just added it just now.
1026
01:32:28,208 --> 01:32:31,125
So people in the games
1027
01:32:31,125 --> 01:32:34,000
industry want Grand Theft Auto 6
1028
01:32:34,833 --> 01:32:37,958
to be the first $100 video game.
1029
01:32:38,583 --> 01:32:40,500
And because let's be perfectly frank,
1030
01:32:41,083 --> 01:32:42,791
GTA 6 is going to sell
1031
01:32:42,791 --> 01:32:44,916
basically no matter what,
1032
01:32:44,916 --> 01:32:45,541
let's be honest.
1033
01:32:47,083 --> 01:32:47,916
They would not lose much
1034
01:32:47,916 --> 01:32:49,125
sales if they did $100.
1035
01:32:49,541 --> 01:32:51,000
I had a fight with, okay,
1036
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,291
I know I keep talking about my stream,
1037
01:32:52,291 --> 01:32:53,125
but like I had a fight
1038
01:32:53,125 --> 01:32:53,958
with some people in my stream
1039
01:32:53,958 --> 01:32:54,291
and they're like,
1040
01:32:54,291 --> 01:32:55,083
"Well, I wouldn't pay $100."
1041
01:32:55,375 --> 01:32:55,833
I'm like, "Would you
1042
01:32:55,833 --> 01:32:56,791
buy it when it's 60?"
1043
01:32:57,458 --> 01:32:58,791
Then you're gonna buy it when it's 100.
1044
01:32:58,791 --> 01:33:00,125
You might say you're not going to,
1045
01:33:00,125 --> 01:33:01,708
but if you're so excited for this game,
1046
01:33:02,333 --> 01:33:03,958
most people will buy it at $100.
1047
01:33:04,250 --> 01:33:05,041
It doesn't matter
1048
01:33:05,041 --> 01:33:06,166
because they're excited.
1049
01:33:06,416 --> 01:33:06,958
And it might be the only
1050
01:33:06,958 --> 01:33:07,916
game they buy this year.
1051
01:33:08,916 --> 01:33:11,708
That being said, these other companies
1052
01:33:11,708 --> 01:33:12,583
that are hoping that,
1053
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,041
because once one company kind
1054
01:33:15,041 --> 01:33:16,750
of does it and it does well,
1055
01:33:17,666 --> 01:33:18,541
all the other companies kind
1056
01:33:18,541 --> 01:33:19,375
of start to follow through.
1057
01:33:19,583 --> 01:33:19,958
Like that's why you
1058
01:33:19,958 --> 01:33:21,250
get the $70 price tag.
1059
01:33:22,458 --> 01:33:23,416
It's not gonna work though.
1060
01:33:23,416 --> 01:33:24,041
It is gonna fail.
1061
01:33:25,416 --> 01:33:25,916
It's gonna be horrible.
1062
01:33:27,041 --> 01:33:30,041
I hate that I'm so cynical,
1063
01:33:30,416 --> 01:33:31,875
but it's like there's so
1064
01:33:31,875 --> 01:33:34,416
much fervor in the games media
1065
01:33:35,083 --> 01:33:35,750
about this.
1066
01:33:36,708 --> 01:33:38,916
I'm wondering how much they're being paid
1067
01:33:38,916 --> 01:33:41,208
to talk about this, to see this idea,
1068
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,625
because like it's, you know, dude,
1069
01:33:47,291 --> 01:33:49,291
I'm never going to buy GTA VI.
1070
01:33:49,500 --> 01:33:50,500
I'm just gonna say that out.
1071
01:33:50,958 --> 01:33:53,041
They screwed over their
1072
01:33:53,041 --> 01:33:55,291
Linux gamers on the Steam Deck
1073
01:33:55,875 --> 01:33:57,666
and I'm not gonna buy it.
1074
01:33:58,708 --> 01:34:01,416
So just on principle, but if it was $100,
1075
01:34:02,041 --> 01:34:03,750
I wouldn't buy it if I was
1076
01:34:03,750 --> 01:34:04,625
gonna buy the game anyway.
1077
01:34:05,333 --> 01:34:07,041
Like that's too much in my opinion.
1078
01:34:07,833 --> 01:34:08,916
I feel like any, well,
1079
01:34:08,916 --> 01:34:10,500
the game is very big.
1080
01:34:10,708 --> 01:34:12,083
So I actually think
1081
01:34:12,083 --> 01:34:13,000
they can justify the $100
1082
01:34:13,625 --> 01:34:14,750
and justify it.
1083
01:34:14,750 --> 01:34:15,333
I think that's fine.
1084
01:34:15,541 --> 01:34:16,250
You charge what you
1085
01:34:16,250 --> 01:34:17,333
think your game's worth,
1086
01:34:17,541 --> 01:34:19,208
and especially if it's how much you're
1087
01:34:19,208 --> 01:34:19,833
gonna get out of it.
1088
01:34:20,375 --> 01:34:23,291
But my point is I think
1089
01:34:23,291 --> 01:34:24,208
they'll lose some people
1090
01:34:24,583 --> 01:34:26,750
that won't buy it for $100,
1091
01:34:26,750 --> 01:34:27,750
but that would have bought it for 60.
1092
01:34:28,166 --> 01:34:29,833
I think most people,
1093
01:34:29,833 --> 01:34:31,041
anyone that's excited for GTA,
1094
01:34:31,791 --> 01:34:32,958
which I don't think you're
1095
01:34:32,958 --> 01:34:33,916
really that excited, right,
1096
01:34:33,916 --> 01:34:34,250
Gardiner?
1097
01:34:34,250 --> 01:34:35,375
Like I'm not really that excited.
1098
01:34:35,916 --> 01:34:36,708
I wouldn't pay $100,
1099
01:34:36,916 --> 01:34:37,916
but I wasn't gonna pay 60.
1100
01:34:37,916 --> 01:34:39,083
I was gonna wait until it dropped,
1101
01:34:39,083 --> 01:34:41,041
unless I got talked into it,
1102
01:34:41,041 --> 01:34:42,125
which you never know with me.
1103
01:34:43,041 --> 01:34:44,958
If they hadn't screwed over their fans,
1104
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,000
like the Steam Deck
1105
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:48,458
players, I would have been,
1106
01:34:48,958 --> 01:34:51,958
I wouldn't have been like you, James.
1107
01:34:51,958 --> 01:34:52,541
I would have been like,
1108
01:34:52,541 --> 01:34:54,375
I'm gonna wait for it to go on sale,
1109
01:34:54,875 --> 01:34:57,208
30 bucks maybe, 20, 28 bucks, whatever.
1110
01:34:57,875 --> 01:35:00,125
No, I don't pay full prices for games.
1111
01:35:01,666 --> 01:35:02,791
At least triple A games.
1112
01:35:02,791 --> 01:35:03,916
I'll pay a full price, like
1113
01:35:03,916 --> 01:35:05,416
20 bucks for an indie game.
1114
01:35:06,041 --> 01:35:06,958
We'll see, Half-Life 3
1115
01:35:06,958 --> 01:35:07,750
coming out this year.
1116
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:08,916
We'll see if you do it or not.
1117
01:35:09,208 --> 01:35:10,625
Oh, well, yeah, but Half-Life.
1118
01:35:10,958 --> 01:35:12,166
Okay, all right, so
1119
01:35:12,166 --> 01:35:13,916
the main justification
1120
01:35:14,333 --> 01:35:15,625
over the years for game
1121
01:35:15,625 --> 01:35:17,208
developers raising the prices
1122
01:35:17,541 --> 01:35:19,875
and also introducing microtransactions
1123
01:35:19,875 --> 01:35:21,750
is because game development is expensive.
1124
01:35:22,541 --> 01:35:23,708
I'm not going to refute that.
1125
01:35:24,083 --> 01:35:27,125
The problem is, is that Rockstar
1126
01:35:28,083 --> 01:35:30,166
is going to make this game $100.
1127
01:35:30,166 --> 01:35:31,291
If they make this game $100,
1128
01:35:31,833 --> 01:35:32,625
they're gonna make $100,
1129
01:35:33,208 --> 01:35:34,208
but then later down the line,
1130
01:35:34,208 --> 01:35:35,625
they're gonna include fucking shark cards
1131
01:35:35,958 --> 01:35:37,500
and make the game pay to win anyways,
1132
01:35:37,708 --> 01:35:38,541
much like Grand Theft
1133
01:35:38,541 --> 01:35:40,500
Auto Online for GTA V.
1134
01:35:44,208 --> 01:35:46,166
Wait a sec, hold up, guys, hold up.
1135
01:35:46,833 --> 01:35:48,375
The game about robbing
1136
01:35:48,375 --> 01:35:50,250
people and doing theft
1137
01:35:50,250 --> 01:35:52,041
and doing things,
1138
01:35:52,291 --> 01:35:54,208
they're practicing it also
1139
01:35:54,375 --> 01:35:57,291
from their side from selling things.
1140
01:35:57,291 --> 01:35:57,833
I don't know that.
1141
01:35:58,791 --> 01:35:59,666
I'm kidding, but that's
1142
01:35:59,666 --> 01:36:00,541
what it feels like somewhat.
1143
01:36:01,083 --> 01:36:02,458
It feels like, they're
1144
01:36:02,458 --> 01:36:03,791
like, well, you bought the game,
1145
01:36:03,791 --> 01:36:04,750
you're being the
1146
01:36:04,750 --> 01:36:05,958
frickin' bad guy, essentially,
1147
01:36:06,208 --> 01:36:07,083
and then we're gonna just
1148
01:36:07,083 --> 01:36:09,083
take advantage of that, I guess.
1149
01:36:09,625 --> 01:36:10,416
Yeah, well, I mean, video
1150
01:36:10,416 --> 01:36:11,958
games don't influence anybody
1151
01:36:11,958 --> 01:36:13,916
to do anything outside of the game ever.
1152
01:36:14,125 --> 01:36:15,916
We know that for a fact, so.
1153
01:36:17,833 --> 01:36:20,416
Oh gosh, oh gosh.
1154
01:36:21,208 --> 01:36:21,875
You can't tell what
1155
01:36:21,875 --> 01:36:22,791
I'm thinking, actually.
1156
01:36:23,375 --> 01:36:24,208
We'll leave it at that.
1157
01:36:25,041 --> 01:36:25,916
It's like all of those
1158
01:36:25,916 --> 01:36:27,083
cyberpunk video games
1159
01:36:27,083 --> 01:36:27,833
and movies that are
1160
01:36:27,833 --> 01:36:29,750
all like corporation bad,
1161
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:30,291
but they're all funded
1162
01:36:30,291 --> 01:36:31,541
by massive corporations.
1163
01:36:33,791 --> 01:36:34,625
Unless it's Disco
1164
01:36:34,625 --> 01:36:36,250
Elysium, I don't think, yeah.
1165
01:36:38,583 --> 01:36:39,166
I mean, that's how
1166
01:36:39,166 --> 01:36:40,708
creative works work, right?
1167
01:36:40,708 --> 01:36:42,583
Like books and anything that's creative
1168
01:36:42,583 --> 01:36:43,916
is gonna push limits of
1169
01:36:43,916 --> 01:36:46,625
what's in the current mainstream.
1170
01:36:46,666 --> 01:36:50,041
That's how it's worked for millennia.
1171
01:36:51,208 --> 01:36:53,208
So, people that get mad at anything
1172
01:36:53,291 --> 01:36:53,916
that's slightly
1173
01:36:53,916 --> 01:36:56,291
progressive, even if it's like,
1174
01:36:56,291 --> 01:37:00,000
oh, corporation bad, doesn't mean
1175
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:00,875
corporations are bad,
1176
01:37:01,125 --> 01:37:05,791
but I think, yeah, that was a funny one.
1177
01:37:06,416 --> 01:37:08,583
Cyberpunk 2077 dropping and being bad,
1178
01:37:08,916 --> 01:37:10,083
about how corporations are
1179
01:37:10,083 --> 01:37:11,333
essentially bad in some way,
1180
01:37:11,333 --> 01:37:12,416
like if you wanna take it that way,
1181
01:37:12,916 --> 01:37:15,708
but then them having their shareholders
1182
01:37:17,125 --> 01:37:18,625
push for them to release it
1183
01:37:18,625 --> 01:37:20,166
before our stakeholders do,
1184
01:37:20,666 --> 01:37:23,333
before it was ready, kind of.
1185
01:37:23,416 --> 01:37:26,250
Man, that, oh my God.
1186
01:37:26,583 --> 01:37:27,208
It was so funny.
1187
01:37:27,458 --> 01:37:28,500
I still love the game though.
1188
01:37:29,375 --> 01:37:29,958
I mean, yeah, after
1189
01:37:29,958 --> 01:37:31,375
they fixed it, of course.
1190
01:37:32,125 --> 01:37:34,833
It ran great on my 3090 back then.
1191
01:37:34,833 --> 01:37:37,000
I loved, I liked it back then too.
1192
01:37:37,375 --> 01:37:38,958
Okay, the real difference
1193
01:37:38,958 --> 01:37:40,250
though is that you had a 3090,
1194
01:37:40,250 --> 01:37:41,083
out of 2070.
1195
01:37:41,416 --> 01:37:45,166
Yeah, I had a GTX Titan X.
1196
01:37:46,791 --> 01:37:48,000
Oh, okay.
1197
01:37:49,208 --> 01:37:49,500
Damn.
1198
01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:50,125
Titan X.
1199
01:37:50,625 --> 01:37:51,666
It didn't run too great.
1200
01:37:52,500 --> 01:37:53,458
I bought the PS,
1201
01:37:53,958 --> 01:37:55,166
because I was so excited,
1202
01:37:55,166 --> 01:37:56,833
I bought the PS4 version,
1203
01:37:57,583 --> 01:37:59,250
which came with an upgrade for the PS5.
1204
01:38:01,166 --> 01:38:02,000
Partially so that my
1205
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:02,750
friend could play it too,
1206
01:38:02,750 --> 01:38:04,416
and it was bad.
1207
01:38:07,083 --> 01:38:09,541
No, no, oh my God.
1208
01:38:10,291 --> 01:38:12,458
I've seen videos of PS4 Cyberpunk.
1209
01:38:12,458 --> 01:38:14,416
It was, oh no.
1210
01:38:16,291 --> 01:38:18,416
It was, they deserved, I don't know if,
1211
01:38:18,416 --> 01:38:19,166
I think they had a class
1212
01:38:19,166 --> 01:38:20,333
action lawsuit against them.
1213
01:38:20,333 --> 01:38:21,000
They deserved that.
1214
01:38:22,458 --> 01:38:24,916
There really is like,
1215
01:38:24,916 --> 01:38:26,166
comes to a point where,
1216
01:38:26,916 --> 01:38:28,416
are you selling something that's a lie?
1217
01:38:28,750 --> 01:38:30,291
And I think more
1218
01:38:30,291 --> 01:38:31,541
marketing needs to get called out.
1219
01:38:31,916 --> 01:38:32,833
If you're marketing a
1220
01:38:32,833 --> 01:38:33,791
game to look a certain way,
1221
01:38:33,791 --> 01:38:34,958
and it does not look like that,
1222
01:38:36,041 --> 01:38:37,666
stop marketing like that, come on guys.
1223
01:38:39,083 --> 01:38:41,833
False advertising really needs to start
1224
01:38:41,833 --> 01:38:43,708
getting punished more.
1225
01:38:45,375 --> 01:38:46,166
That was an interesting game,
1226
01:38:46,583 --> 01:38:47,875
and an interesting month too,
1227
01:38:47,875 --> 01:38:50,958
just Cyberpunk came out, and then Amore.
1228
01:38:51,541 --> 01:38:52,833
Also, have you guys
1229
01:38:52,833 --> 01:38:53,708
heard of a game called Amore?
1230
01:38:55,416 --> 01:38:56,791
Yes, but I've never played it.
1231
01:38:56,833 --> 01:38:58,333
So it's like an indie, so garden,
1232
01:38:58,333 --> 01:39:01,375
it's like an indie RPG, RPG maker RPG.
1233
01:39:01,625 --> 01:39:02,333
It's inspired by
1234
01:39:02,333 --> 01:39:04,416
Earthbound and Yume Nikki.
1235
01:39:05,666 --> 01:39:07,000
I enjoyed it for what it was.
1236
01:39:07,041 --> 01:39:08,958
They came out the same month too,
1237
01:39:08,958 --> 01:39:09,875
which is kind of funny
1238
01:39:09,875 --> 01:39:11,583
too, because it's hard now.
1239
01:39:12,166 --> 01:39:13,916
But yeah, I think it's
1240
01:39:13,916 --> 01:39:14,750
kind of ballsy for a game
1241
01:39:14,750 --> 01:39:16,375
to come out the same month Cyberpunk did,
1242
01:39:16,375 --> 01:39:18,291
even if Cyberpunk kind
1243
01:39:18,291 --> 01:39:19,416
of botched the launch.
1244
01:39:21,958 --> 01:39:24,541
Dude, when GTA 6 comes out,
1245
01:39:24,541 --> 01:39:25,375
I'm really curious
1246
01:39:25,375 --> 01:39:26,375
what games are coming out,
1247
01:39:27,416 --> 01:39:28,625
and who's planning that?
1248
01:39:28,916 --> 01:39:30,916
Dude, is it gonna be shadow dropped?
1249
01:39:31,458 --> 01:39:32,958
Then all of a sudden, oh
1250
01:39:32,958 --> 01:39:34,750
man, that would be horrible.
1251
01:39:36,333 --> 01:39:37,750
I wanna see Half-Life 3 shadow drop
1252
01:39:38,541 --> 01:39:40,083
right when GTA 6 comes out,
1253
01:39:40,083 --> 01:39:42,250
just to see, I'm just curious.
1254
01:39:43,291 --> 01:39:45,750
I know GTA 6 would win, but I'm curious.
1255
01:39:46,375 --> 01:39:48,750
GTA 6 would win handily, I think, but--
1256
01:39:49,041 --> 01:39:49,166
Not--
1257
01:39:51,291 --> 01:39:52,791
I don't know.
1258
01:39:52,791 --> 01:39:53,625
Well, it's not coming
1259
01:39:53,625 --> 01:39:56,666
out on PC right now.
1260
01:39:57,666 --> 01:39:58,208
Oh, that would be
1261
01:39:58,208 --> 01:39:59,166
really interesting, too.
1262
01:39:59,416 --> 01:40:00,041
Yeah. Yeah.
1263
01:40:00,666 --> 01:40:02,041
I mean, the thing is, like,
1264
01:40:02,958 --> 01:40:05,875
if if if Half-Life dropped at $100,
1265
01:40:06,791 --> 01:40:07,666
I don't know if I would
1266
01:40:07,666 --> 01:40:10,083
buy it like Half-Life 3.
1267
01:40:10,541 --> 01:40:11,416
I mean, I did like
1268
01:40:11,416 --> 01:40:13,416
granted, I did spend $1,000
1269
01:40:13,916 --> 01:40:15,958
to get the headset to play Half-Life,
1270
01:40:15,958 --> 01:40:16,833
Alex, when it came out.
1271
01:40:17,708 --> 01:40:19,666
But that was I could justify that because
1272
01:40:19,666 --> 01:40:20,750
I could play other games with it.
1273
01:40:20,750 --> 01:40:21,833
Right. It was hardware.
1274
01:40:22,208 --> 01:40:23,791
It was more than just the game.
1275
01:40:24,458 --> 01:40:26,958
Right. And I'm struggling to say that I
1276
01:40:26,958 --> 01:40:28,416
categorically would not
1277
01:40:28,416 --> 01:40:30,208
buy Half-Life 3 for $100.
1278
01:40:30,833 --> 01:40:33,291
But it just feels wrong to me
1279
01:40:33,291 --> 01:40:35,000
to pay 100 bucks for a game.
1280
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,000
Like, even even if it's like GTA 5 or 6
1281
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:40,208
or whatever, where they spent like,
1282
01:40:40,208 --> 01:40:42,208
you know, $2 billion or whatever they're
1283
01:40:42,208 --> 01:40:43,458
spending to develop it.
1284
01:40:43,875 --> 01:40:47,291
Like that that budget feels wrong to me.
1285
01:40:47,666 --> 01:40:48,875
Like, agreed.
1286
01:40:49,416 --> 01:40:51,875
Like, it's so excessive
1287
01:40:52,458 --> 01:40:54,625
and it doesn't need to be that way when
1288
01:40:54,625 --> 01:40:56,791
you can make really great games
1289
01:40:57,291 --> 01:40:59,333
that I think personally that I find more
1290
01:40:59,333 --> 01:41:01,000
fun than a game like GTA
1291
01:41:01,625 --> 01:41:04,250
for for like fractions of that budget.
1292
01:41:04,833 --> 01:41:07,125
It's like you it's not justifiable.
1293
01:41:08,166 --> 01:41:10,333
And it's well, here's the thing.
1294
01:41:10,541 --> 01:41:11,875
I think it is.
1295
01:41:12,083 --> 01:41:13,416
I think it's unjustifiable
1296
01:41:13,416 --> 01:41:14,416
when it becomes a standard.
1297
01:41:14,666 --> 01:41:16,708
I actually much rather have a more
1298
01:41:16,708 --> 01:41:18,625
variable rate instead of being like,
1299
01:41:18,958 --> 01:41:21,208
oh, like on PS5, there's kids games will
1300
01:41:21,208 --> 01:41:22,250
come out at 60 where I'm like,
1301
01:41:22,750 --> 01:41:24,583
no, this is legit is a $20 game when it
1302
01:41:24,583 --> 01:41:26,166
comes out like is why?
1303
01:41:26,416 --> 01:41:27,916
Just because they can, because that's the
1304
01:41:27,916 --> 01:41:29,041
standard when it releases.
1305
01:41:29,583 --> 01:41:31,000
There needs to be a variable rate.
1306
01:41:31,250 --> 01:41:33,625
I don't mind paying $100.
1307
01:41:34,791 --> 01:41:35,958
Let's say $120.
1308
01:41:35,958 --> 01:41:38,500
I don't mind if Witcher 4 was $120.
1309
01:41:38,875 --> 01:41:41,208
But all the future DLC that if it's just
1310
01:41:41,208 --> 01:41:42,166
like Witcher 3 and it
1311
01:41:42,166 --> 01:41:43,375
has really good DLC,
1312
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,625
all the future DLC and
1313
01:41:45,625 --> 01:41:46,625
everything is included.
1314
01:41:46,666 --> 01:41:48,166
There's no like microtransactions or
1315
01:41:48,166 --> 01:41:49,708
anything like and they
1316
01:41:49,708 --> 01:41:50,375
think it's worth that.
1317
01:41:50,375 --> 01:41:50,791
And I'm going to get
1318
01:41:50,791 --> 01:41:52,041
two hundred hours again.
1319
01:41:52,333 --> 01:41:53,791
I'm going to pay that price.
1320
01:41:53,916 --> 01:41:55,958
Yeah, that's where and
1321
01:41:55,958 --> 01:41:56,916
how big is their budget?
1322
01:41:57,125 --> 01:41:58,166
And some games just
1323
01:41:58,166 --> 01:41:59,458
require a bigger budget.
1324
01:41:59,750 --> 01:42:01,708
I don't like this arbitrary try to
1325
01:42:01,708 --> 01:42:03,000
squeeze as much out.
1326
01:42:03,833 --> 01:42:04,666
Fire the developers
1327
01:42:04,666 --> 01:42:06,250
afterwards instead of retaining them.
1328
01:42:06,500 --> 01:42:09,083
Like I want ethical
1329
01:42:09,083 --> 01:42:12,416
reasons for a hundred dollars.
1330
01:42:12,875 --> 01:42:13,750
Yeah. Are you going to
1331
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:14,666
retain your developers?
1332
01:42:14,666 --> 01:42:16,458
Are you going to do the ethical thing?
1333
01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:16,916
Is it going to
1334
01:42:16,916 --> 01:42:17,875
trickle down to developers?
1335
01:42:18,833 --> 01:42:20,666
What is going on?
1336
01:42:20,666 --> 01:42:21,375
That's for me.
1337
01:42:21,625 --> 01:42:22,666
I don't think most people are going to
1338
01:42:22,666 --> 01:42:23,333
think that way, though.
1339
01:42:23,791 --> 01:42:24,500
You know what, though, I
1340
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:25,416
actually agree with that.
1341
01:42:26,250 --> 01:42:28,666
And the thing that is interesting is like
1342
01:42:28,666 --> 01:42:29,708
they're already selling
1343
01:42:29,708 --> 01:42:31,125
games for one hundred dollars.
1344
01:42:31,125 --> 01:42:32,666
Right. It's like they have the deluxe
1345
01:42:32,666 --> 01:42:35,708
editions and the, you know, ultra deluxe
1346
01:42:35,708 --> 01:42:36,791
season pass edition
1347
01:42:36,791 --> 01:42:38,166
and all this other crap.
1348
01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:39,416
And they don't get you much.
1349
01:42:39,875 --> 01:42:42,125
No, it doesn't offer anything extra,
1350
01:42:42,125 --> 01:42:44,125
really of value, in my opinion.
1351
01:42:44,291 --> 01:42:46,333
And it's like, I don't know.
1352
01:42:47,041 --> 01:42:49,750
Just to arbitrarily set the new standard
1353
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:51,500
and say games aren't 60, they're a
1354
01:42:51,500 --> 01:42:52,333
hundred dollars now.
1355
01:42:52,583 --> 01:42:54,708
It just that's that's what I'm really
1356
01:42:54,708 --> 01:42:58,083
feeling so negative towards this, you
1357
01:42:58,083 --> 01:43:00,125
know, because of it's just going to let
1358
01:43:00,125 --> 01:43:01,208
everyone else do it.
1359
01:43:01,416 --> 01:43:04,791
So I will say a lot of people for so.
1360
01:43:05,958 --> 01:43:07,916
A lot of companies are going to want to
1361
01:43:07,916 --> 01:43:10,250
jack up the prices of their games if GTA
1362
01:43:10,250 --> 01:43:12,500
six actually does make it a standard.
1363
01:43:12,708 --> 01:43:14,291
You know, the hundred dollar video game
1364
01:43:14,291 --> 01:43:17,875
because get this a lot of we don't get we
1365
01:43:17,875 --> 01:43:19,666
don't see it this way, but a lot of
1366
01:43:19,666 --> 01:43:22,000
regular consumers see like the difference
1367
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:23,083
between a 60 dollar and
1368
01:43:23,083 --> 01:43:24,125
a 70 dollar video game.
1369
01:43:24,500 --> 01:43:26,333
They think the 60 dollar video game is
1370
01:43:26,333 --> 01:43:28,791
worse, therefore it has less value.
1371
01:43:29,208 --> 01:43:30,958
Right. So we're going to see a lot of
1372
01:43:30,958 --> 01:43:33,291
that happening because, you know, a lot
1373
01:43:33,291 --> 01:43:35,291
of a lot of people are going to see that,
1374
01:43:35,291 --> 01:43:37,500
you know, they they have a game and they
1375
01:43:37,500 --> 01:43:38,250
want people to play it.
1376
01:43:38,666 --> 01:43:41,125
But if it's like 70 dollars instead of
1377
01:43:41,125 --> 01:43:42,208
100 dollars, people are going to think
1378
01:43:42,208 --> 01:43:43,125
it's worse and
1379
01:43:43,125 --> 01:43:44,083
they're not going to buy it.
1380
01:43:44,083 --> 01:43:44,916
So they have to jack it
1381
01:43:44,916 --> 01:43:45,958
up to let people buy it.
1382
01:43:46,166 --> 01:43:48,416
So because, you know, so they can say
1383
01:43:48,416 --> 01:43:49,375
that it's a high quality
1384
01:43:49,375 --> 01:43:50,541
product or whatever. Right.
1385
01:43:51,041 --> 01:43:52,166
Potentially, I think
1386
01:43:52,166 --> 01:43:53,166
that would have a revert.
1387
01:43:53,416 --> 01:43:54,666
Like, honestly, I think that would have
1388
01:43:54,666 --> 01:43:57,708
like in today's world of YouTube reviews
1389
01:43:57,708 --> 01:43:59,458
with a lot of information.
1390
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:00,666
I think that would have
1391
01:44:00,666 --> 01:44:02,708
worked back in the 90s and 2000s.
1392
01:44:03,041 --> 01:44:04,875
I think nowadays I don't
1393
01:44:04,875 --> 01:44:05,875
know if that actually worked.
1394
01:44:05,875 --> 01:44:09,291
And I think once let's say if G.T.
1395
01:44:09,291 --> 01:44:11,250
Six does release 100 dollars and everyone
1396
01:44:11,250 --> 01:44:13,000
else tries, I think they're going to be
1397
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:17,458
woefully mistaken on that price and
1398
01:44:17,458 --> 01:44:18,625
they're going to get screwed over.
1399
01:44:18,625 --> 01:44:19,333
And then they're just going to blame
1400
01:44:19,333 --> 01:44:22,375
developers or the consumers once again,
1401
01:44:22,375 --> 01:44:23,791
like Ubisoft and EA are
1402
01:44:23,791 --> 01:44:24,750
just going to blame them.
1403
01:44:25,250 --> 01:44:27,000
Well, shit, man. Blame them if they want.
1404
01:44:27,250 --> 01:44:28,708
But the consumers did
1405
01:44:28,708 --> 01:44:31,083
destroy Ubisoft and EA after all.
1406
01:44:31,666 --> 01:44:33,333
Also, one more thing, too, is that I feel
1407
01:44:33,333 --> 01:44:35,208
like if it becomes a standard, we can see
1408
01:44:35,208 --> 01:44:37,041
indie games rise in price, too, which I
1409
01:44:37,041 --> 01:44:39,208
mean is not necessarily a bad thing
1410
01:44:39,208 --> 01:44:40,125
because, you know, some of these
1411
01:44:40,125 --> 01:44:41,500
developers do deserve more money.
1412
01:44:43,041 --> 01:44:44,500
Would you pay 60 dollars for Bellato?
1413
01:44:45,916 --> 01:44:47,333
I don't know, maybe would you?
1414
01:44:48,375 --> 01:44:49,833
So inflation is a thing
1415
01:44:49,833 --> 01:44:51,333
we've got to remember.
1416
01:44:51,833 --> 01:44:53,166
I've mentioned this multiple times.
1417
01:44:53,166 --> 01:44:56,625
Inflation is a thing is we've the amount
1418
01:44:56,625 --> 01:44:57,333
of inflation that's
1419
01:44:57,333 --> 01:44:58,750
happened since it's been
1420
01:44:59,708 --> 01:45:01,208
the price has gone up to 60 dollars.
1421
01:45:01,666 --> 01:45:02,666
It's quite a bit. We
1422
01:45:02,666 --> 01:45:03,583
should be paying more.
1423
01:45:04,416 --> 01:45:05,875
That being said, what
1424
01:45:05,875 --> 01:45:06,958
is the development cost?
1425
01:45:07,291 --> 01:45:08,916
What are people still willing to pay that
1426
01:45:08,916 --> 01:45:11,833
still like there's such a big market of
1427
01:45:11,833 --> 01:45:14,333
games like you think these companies that
1428
01:45:14,333 --> 01:45:16,833
are starting to realize that they need to
1429
01:45:16,833 --> 01:45:17,625
be competitive again.
1430
01:45:19,166 --> 01:45:20,791
Then you might have to drive some of
1431
01:45:20,791 --> 01:45:22,083
those prices down potentially even.
1432
01:45:22,583 --> 01:45:25,291
So so I will say like, yes, games, even
1433
01:45:25,291 --> 01:45:27,083
back in like the Super Nintendo days used
1434
01:45:27,083 --> 01:45:29,791
to be 60 dollars, which I think should be
1435
01:45:29,791 --> 01:45:31,333
like 150 dollars right now
1436
01:45:31,333 --> 01:45:33,166
if taking the calculation.
1437
01:45:33,875 --> 01:45:35,291
But also the gaming market has gotten a
1438
01:45:35,291 --> 01:45:36,708
lot bigger since then.
1439
01:45:37,291 --> 01:45:38,375
There's way more gamers
1440
01:45:38,375 --> 01:45:39,416
now than there are game.
1441
01:45:39,666 --> 01:45:41,125
There were gamers like back in the 90s.
1442
01:45:41,125 --> 01:45:43,583
Right. So that also helped like to like
1443
01:45:43,583 --> 01:45:45,083
reduce the prices of video
1444
01:45:45,083 --> 01:45:46,666
games or just keep them the same.
1445
01:45:46,708 --> 01:45:47,666
You know, 60 dollars
1446
01:45:47,666 --> 01:45:48,875
instead of Jack and Michael.
1447
01:45:48,875 --> 01:45:49,541
But I think it's going
1448
01:45:49,541 --> 01:45:50,458
to be like 150 dollars.
1449
01:45:51,125 --> 01:45:52,333
I don't think anyone would buy a video
1450
01:45:52,333 --> 01:45:53,375
game for 150 dollars
1451
01:45:53,375 --> 01:45:54,166
if that were the case.
1452
01:45:55,541 --> 01:45:57,458
Well, the other thing with the Super
1453
01:45:57,458 --> 01:46:01,083
Nintendo and 64 and even this base games
1454
01:46:01,083 --> 01:46:02,291
was there was an overhead for
1455
01:46:02,291 --> 01:46:03,500
manufacturing, which you
1456
01:46:03,500 --> 01:46:05,000
don't have now for the most part.
1457
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,208
I mean, the switch games do have it, but
1458
01:46:07,208 --> 01:46:08,750
you can release it digitally and
1459
01:46:08,750 --> 01:46:11,250
digitally still has overhead.
1460
01:46:11,250 --> 01:46:12,291
It can still be more
1461
01:46:12,291 --> 01:46:13,583
expensive than people realize.
1462
01:46:13,958 --> 01:46:15,333
But it is not it is
1463
01:46:15,333 --> 01:46:16,708
not the same in any way.
1464
01:46:18,125 --> 01:46:20,166
It is much cheaper. Yeah, absolutely.
1465
01:46:22,666 --> 01:46:24,083
Yeah, I don't know. Is there anything
1466
01:46:24,083 --> 01:46:25,583
else we want to touch on with that story?
1467
01:46:26,625 --> 01:46:28,833
I I know that this is very difficult.
1468
01:46:29,625 --> 01:46:30,958
It's not even a divisive thing.
1469
01:46:30,958 --> 01:46:31,666
You know, most gamers
1470
01:46:31,666 --> 01:46:33,416
don't want to pay 100 dollars.
1471
01:46:33,958 --> 01:46:35,833
Yeah. But what people say and what they
1472
01:46:35,833 --> 01:46:36,875
do, especially if it's GTA
1473
01:46:36,875 --> 01:46:38,416
six, I think is going to be.
1474
01:46:39,125 --> 01:46:41,416
Honestly, I just if someone wants to
1475
01:46:41,416 --> 01:46:42,166
chase six enough,
1476
01:46:42,166 --> 01:46:42,833
they're going to buy it.
1477
01:46:43,500 --> 01:46:44,833
I think it's going to happen.
1478
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:48,250
And I think GTA six is going to succeed.
1479
01:46:49,166 --> 01:46:50,750
But the only way to prevent this feature
1480
01:46:50,750 --> 01:46:52,666
is for GTA six to fail.
1481
01:46:53,333 --> 01:46:54,333
And that's practically
1482
01:46:54,333 --> 01:46:55,541
impossible at this point.
1483
01:46:57,250 --> 01:46:59,416
I would love it if GTA six failed.
1484
01:46:59,875 --> 01:47:00,958
Honestly, I kind of
1485
01:47:00,958 --> 01:47:02,041
would be here for that, too.
1486
01:47:02,250 --> 01:47:03,500
And that's going to get a lot of hate.
1487
01:47:03,916 --> 01:47:05,208
But I don't know for it.
1488
01:47:05,208 --> 01:47:06,833
Dude, that would that has to be a
1489
01:47:06,833 --> 01:47:08,291
headliner if that ever happens.
1490
01:47:09,375 --> 01:47:10,291
The that would be so
1491
01:47:10,291 --> 01:47:11,416
that would be so crazy.
1492
01:47:12,500 --> 01:47:15,250
Can you even preorder GTA six right now?
1493
01:47:16,375 --> 01:47:18,083
Because you know, you make GTA six fail
1494
01:47:18,083 --> 01:47:20,375
is you go on and post an expression
1495
01:47:20,833 --> 01:47:22,500
about how, you know, the
1496
01:47:22,500 --> 01:47:24,333
eye or something in the game.
1497
01:47:24,666 --> 01:47:25,958
I'm I'm already seeing that.
1498
01:47:25,958 --> 01:47:26,666
I'm I see that.
1499
01:47:27,583 --> 01:47:28,625
I've already seen it, too.
1500
01:47:28,666 --> 01:47:29,625
Oh, really? I was joking.
1501
01:47:30,041 --> 01:47:30,916
I don't go out there.
1502
01:47:32,250 --> 01:47:34,000
Yeah, there's there's D.I.
1503
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:35,416
hires in the video game.
1504
01:47:35,416 --> 01:47:36,916
You can you can watch the trailer.
1505
01:47:37,708 --> 01:47:38,708
Oh, geez.
1506
01:47:38,708 --> 01:47:40,041
There's non white people in it.
1507
01:47:40,708 --> 01:47:42,875
Oh, that's it's gotten that bad.
1508
01:47:42,875 --> 01:47:44,125
It's gotten that bad. I'm sorry.
1509
01:47:44,125 --> 01:47:45,166
I try not to get
1510
01:47:45,166 --> 01:47:46,916
political, but like it like I do.
1511
01:47:46,916 --> 01:47:48,083
Well, I do get political, but I try not
1512
01:47:48,083 --> 01:47:48,916
to get too political on here
1513
01:47:48,916 --> 01:47:50,375
because I know it gets really heated.
1514
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:52,583
But it's already happened.
1515
01:47:53,125 --> 01:47:54,125
Just enjoy games, guys.
1516
01:47:54,375 --> 01:47:55,208
Enjoy diversity.
1517
01:47:55,458 --> 01:47:56,625
This is based in Miami, which
1518
01:47:56,625 --> 01:47:58,750
is a very diverse city. Yeah.
1519
01:47:59,708 --> 01:48:01,750
Very diverse. Vice City, Miami.
1520
01:48:03,041 --> 01:48:03,791
Sorry, Vice City.
1521
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,458
My city, right. Yeah.
1522
01:48:06,750 --> 01:48:08,041
All right.
1523
01:48:08,125 --> 01:48:09,583
Let's talk about let's talk about the
1524
01:48:09,583 --> 01:48:11,458
Sony leadership kerfuffle
1525
01:48:11,500 --> 01:48:12,875
that's happening right now.
1526
01:48:14,250 --> 01:48:17,625
So Hideaki, is it Hideaki Nishino
1527
01:48:18,416 --> 01:48:20,708
and Herman Hulst were both CEOs.
1528
01:48:21,291 --> 01:48:22,750
They were co CEOs of Sony
1529
01:48:22,750 --> 01:48:23,750
Interactive Entertainment.
1530
01:48:24,416 --> 01:48:25,666
And now Nishino is
1531
01:48:25,666 --> 01:48:29,916
the the sole CEO of SEI.
1532
01:48:30,166 --> 01:48:30,666
He was going on.
1533
01:48:31,916 --> 01:48:33,291
So it's as you said,
1534
01:48:34,291 --> 01:48:36,916
Hulst is now serving as the CEO of the
1535
01:48:36,916 --> 01:48:38,458
the studio business group.
1536
01:48:39,416 --> 01:48:41,625
But he'll still be he'll still be helping
1537
01:48:41,625 --> 01:48:43,708
their first party studios.
1538
01:48:44,541 --> 01:48:46,416
But he reports a Nishino now rather than
1539
01:48:46,416 --> 01:48:48,666
being, you know, co CEOs,
1540
01:48:49,916 --> 01:48:50,625
which emotion.
1541
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,583
I mean, it sounds like
1542
01:48:52,583 --> 01:48:53,541
an emotion, to be honest.
1543
01:48:53,541 --> 01:48:55,541
I can tell you what this actually means
1544
01:48:55,541 --> 01:48:57,250
of practice, because I'm not a Sony.
1545
01:48:57,916 --> 01:48:59,083
I'm not a Sony C-suite,
1546
01:49:00,250 --> 01:49:03,666
but it seems like there's some
1547
01:49:03,666 --> 01:49:04,708
dissatisfaction with
1548
01:49:04,708 --> 01:49:05,750
what's going on with SEI.
1549
01:49:08,291 --> 01:49:10,125
And I mean, and with
1550
01:49:10,125 --> 01:49:12,333
what was a sixth field
1551
01:49:12,625 --> 01:49:14,000
live services that got
1552
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:15,166
canceled or some shit like that?
1553
01:49:16,375 --> 01:49:17,416
I mean, shit, man.
1554
01:49:18,291 --> 01:49:19,791
So was the Herman the one
1555
01:49:19,791 --> 01:49:21,333
that was over the live services?
1556
01:49:21,333 --> 01:49:22,000
Was he the one that was
1557
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:22,833
pushing for that then?
1558
01:49:23,208 --> 01:49:23,875
So I'm assuming
1559
01:49:23,875 --> 01:49:26,875
shareholders probably demoted him.
1560
01:49:27,125 --> 01:49:27,666
I believe the
1561
01:49:27,666 --> 01:49:29,500
initiative started with Jim Ryan,
1562
01:49:29,666 --> 01:49:32,375
who, as we know, no longer works at Sony.
1563
01:49:33,583 --> 01:49:34,958
Right. But he but Herman
1564
01:49:34,958 --> 01:49:38,208
Hulst kept kept going with it.
1565
01:49:38,208 --> 01:49:40,458
And I believe Herman Hulst is also was
1566
01:49:40,458 --> 01:49:41,750
also from Gorilla Games.
1567
01:49:42,125 --> 01:49:43,291
So it kind of also
1568
01:49:43,291 --> 01:49:44,791
explains why Sony is pushing.
1569
01:49:45,458 --> 01:49:46,916
It kind of explains why Sony is trying to
1570
01:49:46,916 --> 01:49:48,208
push Horizons so much,
1571
01:49:48,291 --> 01:49:49,375
because, like, you know,
1572
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:50,916
it's probably his baby.
1573
01:49:53,166 --> 01:49:54,708
Gorilla Games is a good studio.
1574
01:49:54,708 --> 01:49:55,666
I want them to make
1575
01:49:55,666 --> 01:49:57,625
Killswitch, not Killswitch.
1576
01:49:58,125 --> 01:49:59,708
Killzone. Killzone.
1577
01:50:00,125 --> 01:50:00,708
It's not. Can you
1578
01:50:00,708 --> 01:50:03,125
believe it's crazy, man?
1579
01:50:03,375 --> 01:50:05,458
Killzone is a universe people like.
1580
01:50:06,166 --> 01:50:07,833
I mean, back in the day, it was just
1581
01:50:07,833 --> 01:50:08,958
regard as a Halo killer.
1582
01:50:09,666 --> 01:50:11,291
But then now we're getting reports that
1583
01:50:11,291 --> 01:50:12,916
made that Halo may be
1584
01:50:12,916 --> 01:50:14,208
coming to PlayStation 5.
1585
01:50:14,916 --> 01:50:17,125
Like, could you imagine getting a Halo on
1586
01:50:17,125 --> 01:50:18,750
PS5 before getting a PS5?
1587
01:50:18,958 --> 01:50:19,333
Killzone.
1588
01:50:22,666 --> 01:50:25,333
Dude, go back and play Killzone for PS4.
1589
01:50:25,333 --> 01:50:26,333
It still looks good.
1590
01:50:26,708 --> 01:50:28,916
I am shocked how much they were able to
1591
01:50:28,916 --> 01:50:29,791
pull out of that game
1592
01:50:29,791 --> 01:50:31,166
and how optimized it was.
1593
01:50:31,916 --> 01:50:34,750
But yeah, I don't I don't know.
1594
01:50:34,750 --> 01:50:35,416
Halo is kind of a
1595
01:50:35,416 --> 01:50:37,166
dead series to me. Yeah.
1596
01:50:38,416 --> 01:50:39,708
I agree with that. Yeah.
1597
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:41,708
It's sad that Halo has been bad longer
1598
01:50:41,708 --> 01:50:42,958
than it's been good.
1599
01:50:44,458 --> 01:50:45,791
Honestly, there's a lot of truth to that.
1600
01:50:46,291 --> 01:50:48,666
It is. Oh, no. Don't do this.
1601
01:50:48,875 --> 01:50:50,583
Cindy, we're going to
1602
01:50:50,583 --> 01:50:52,166
get more Xbox Hater covers.
1603
01:50:52,916 --> 01:50:53,916
All right. Well, here's the thing.
1604
01:50:54,041 --> 01:50:55,833
There's Xbox does a lot of well, they own
1605
01:50:55,833 --> 01:50:57,750
tons of good stuff now. But
1606
01:51:01,125 --> 01:51:02,583
I've never been the biggest Halo fan.
1607
01:51:03,250 --> 01:51:04,208
It's only fun when you
1608
01:51:04,208 --> 01:51:05,333
play with other people for me.
1609
01:51:06,208 --> 01:51:07,500
Yeah, I mean, I really loved
1610
01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:10,208
the story of Halo 1, 2 and 3.
1611
01:51:10,750 --> 01:51:11,875
And Reach, Reach was awesome.
1612
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:16,125
I loved the story. I'm a huge Halo fan.
1613
01:51:16,375 --> 01:51:17,583
Reach. Yeah, Reach was good.
1614
01:51:18,291 --> 01:51:19,166
A couple of their stories were good.
1615
01:51:19,416 --> 01:51:20,166
The original trilogy.
1616
01:51:21,541 --> 01:51:23,791
The original trilogy, I believe some of
1617
01:51:23,791 --> 01:51:25,791
the greatest in game, to be honest.
1618
01:51:25,791 --> 01:51:29,083
I mean, yeah, I'm not a
1619
01:51:29,083 --> 01:51:30,125
big story opposite on this.
1620
01:51:30,625 --> 01:51:31,541
I'm a big story guy.
1621
01:51:32,416 --> 01:51:34,000
And I feel like Gordon
1622
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:35,250
Freeman, not talking at all,
1623
01:51:35,250 --> 01:51:36,416
has more story in Half-Life
1624
01:51:36,416 --> 01:51:37,708
than Halo, like interesting,
1625
01:51:38,375 --> 01:51:39,666
which I find interesting.
1626
01:51:39,916 --> 01:51:42,291
I actually like both of them on. Yeah.
1627
01:51:43,125 --> 01:51:44,000
Like on a similar
1628
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,791
level. Right. But like, yeah.
1629
01:51:46,625 --> 01:51:47,791
But the fact is, like
1630
01:51:49,125 --> 01:51:51,291
Half-Life story was kind of like
1631
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:53,458
added on after they had
1632
01:51:53,458 --> 01:51:54,541
built most of the game.
1633
01:51:54,791 --> 01:51:55,416
And that's how it's been
1634
01:51:55,416 --> 01:51:56,625
for every Half-Life game.
1635
01:51:57,375 --> 01:52:00,041
And and Halo approached
1636
01:52:00,041 --> 01:52:01,875
it from story almost first,
1637
01:52:02,250 --> 01:52:03,375
as far as I understand it.
1638
01:52:03,875 --> 01:52:04,791
And so I don't know.
1639
01:52:04,791 --> 01:52:06,666
I appreciate them both for what they are.
1640
01:52:07,041 --> 01:52:08,458
And I like the
1641
01:52:08,458 --> 01:52:10,125
storytelling in Half-Life more
1642
01:52:10,333 --> 01:52:12,083
because I don't like having cut scenes
1643
01:52:12,083 --> 01:52:13,166
and getting my control
1644
01:52:13,166 --> 01:52:14,333
pulled away from me when I'm playing.
1645
01:52:15,208 --> 01:52:17,083
That's fair. But yeah,
1646
01:52:17,083 --> 01:52:18,083
I just don't think this.
1647
01:52:18,208 --> 01:52:20,875
So Halo was revolutionary for its time.
1648
01:52:21,125 --> 01:52:21,833
I think it did a good
1649
01:52:21,833 --> 01:52:24,041
job. Like I liked it.
1650
01:52:24,041 --> 01:52:28,833
But it's just I feel like it was missing
1651
01:52:28,833 --> 01:52:29,958
some rudimentary things.
1652
01:52:30,416 --> 01:52:31,750
It was very confusing at times.
1653
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,708
They didn't they confused
1654
01:52:34,708 --> 01:52:37,083
more than expanded on stuff.
1655
01:52:38,291 --> 01:52:39,583
The cut scenes didn't help with that.
1656
01:52:39,583 --> 01:52:40,375
I feel like they made it
1657
01:52:40,375 --> 01:52:41,291
more confusing sometimes.
1658
01:52:41,708 --> 01:52:44,541
But yeah, to be fair, Halo 2 story
1659
01:52:45,500 --> 01:52:47,291
was only half of what they initially
1660
01:52:47,291 --> 01:52:48,791
planned because Halo 2
1661
01:52:49,416 --> 01:52:50,541
has a really famous
1662
01:52:50,541 --> 01:52:52,333
development health cycle.
1663
01:52:52,583 --> 01:52:54,000
You can read all about it, too.
1664
01:52:54,583 --> 01:52:56,458
There's so there's so much that they had
1665
01:52:56,458 --> 01:53:00,791
to like redo and revamp and recycle.
1666
01:53:01,541 --> 01:53:02,375
There's so much of that.
1667
01:53:02,375 --> 01:53:04,125
It's a miracle that the game is even like
1668
01:53:04,125 --> 01:53:06,416
considered like a nine out of ten.
1669
01:53:07,250 --> 01:53:09,708
Yeah, a great story was supposed to be
1670
01:53:09,708 --> 01:53:12,291
basically all of Halo 2 and 3.
1671
01:53:12,666 --> 01:53:15,000
So yeah, like and so they had
1672
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,041
to cut it in half basically.
1673
01:53:17,333 --> 01:53:20,625
But yeah, I mean, I don't know.
1674
01:53:20,708 --> 01:53:22,916
See, my kind of like I my one of my
1675
01:53:22,916 --> 01:53:23,916
favorite stories in games.
1676
01:53:24,416 --> 01:53:24,916
I'm just going to go
1677
01:53:24,916 --> 01:53:26,625
off complete tangent.
1678
01:53:26,625 --> 01:53:27,916
But like Bioshock is like
1679
01:53:27,916 --> 01:53:30,625
one of the greatest stories.
1680
01:53:30,833 --> 01:53:31,541
I agree with that. I
1681
01:53:31,541 --> 01:53:32,791
actually agree with that.
1682
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:35,000
Which Bioshock?
1683
01:53:36,083 --> 01:53:38,791
Bioshock one. Infant, it's pretty good,
1684
01:53:38,791 --> 01:53:39,833
too, but I like
1685
01:53:39,833 --> 01:53:41,041
Bioshock one a little more.
1686
01:53:41,875 --> 01:53:44,333
I saw something interesting where I
1687
01:53:44,333 --> 01:53:46,458
remember when Bioshock came out,
1688
01:53:46,458 --> 01:53:48,916
it was getting rave reviews and now all
1689
01:53:48,916 --> 01:53:50,500
of a sudden people fucking hate the game.
1690
01:53:50,500 --> 01:53:51,916
It's crazy how like
1691
01:53:51,916 --> 01:53:53,916
quickly they turned on it.
1692
01:53:54,625 --> 01:53:56,000
Which one, Bioshock? Infinite?
1693
01:53:56,250 --> 01:53:56,875
Infinite, yes, infinite.
1694
01:53:57,208 --> 01:53:57,916
Not Bioshock one.
1695
01:53:57,916 --> 01:53:59,541
It's a it's really weird.
1696
01:53:59,541 --> 01:54:00,833
Yeah, because I really liked Infinite.
1697
01:54:01,041 --> 01:54:02,333
I thought it was an amazing game.
1698
01:54:02,333 --> 01:54:03,750
I really like how they turned it from
1699
01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:05,750
deep down to in the sky.
1700
01:54:06,041 --> 01:54:07,041
I really love that.
1701
01:54:08,208 --> 01:54:09,250
I don't know. I need to go back.
1702
01:54:09,291 --> 01:54:11,583
I haven't played it since I played it
1703
01:54:11,583 --> 01:54:13,208
since I beat it the first time.
1704
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:14,625
I loved it, though.
1705
01:54:15,500 --> 01:54:16,083
I thought it was good.
1706
01:54:16,666 --> 01:54:18,708
It's one of my favorite favorite titles.
1707
01:54:19,416 --> 01:54:21,166
But, you know, going back to the Halo
1708
01:54:21,166 --> 01:54:22,416
thing, the story in Halo.
1709
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:24,250
The only thing you need is
1710
01:54:24,250 --> 01:54:25,791
the visuals and the music.
1711
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:27,500
And that tells the whole story to me.
1712
01:54:28,291 --> 01:54:29,416
Yeah, I personally agree.
1713
01:54:29,416 --> 01:54:30,708
I do agree. Yeah.
1714
01:54:31,333 --> 01:54:34,541
I just think my problem is that Halo has
1715
01:54:34,541 --> 01:54:36,083
so many good workings in it.
1716
01:54:36,083 --> 01:54:37,583
I love the concept of the Halo.
1717
01:54:38,291 --> 01:54:41,291
Yeah, the planetary system, right?
1718
01:54:41,625 --> 01:54:42,583
Artificial planet, essentially.
1719
01:54:43,083 --> 01:54:44,000
I like a lot of the stuff
1720
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:44,958
that they were going for.
1721
01:54:45,250 --> 01:54:45,958
And I just felt like
1722
01:54:45,958 --> 01:54:47,583
it was very dumb down.
1723
01:54:48,875 --> 01:54:50,208
To in my opinion, I don't
1724
01:54:50,208 --> 01:54:51,291
feel like they went really.
1725
01:54:52,708 --> 01:54:55,500
Complicated for why anything was why it
1726
01:54:55,500 --> 01:54:57,666
was like it just didn't for me.
1727
01:54:58,333 --> 01:55:01,708
So while I say the storytelling is very
1728
01:55:01,708 --> 01:55:03,375
like all over the place
1729
01:55:03,375 --> 01:55:05,083
and doesn't explain things well enough,
1730
01:55:05,083 --> 01:55:07,208
other times it just doesn't.
1731
01:55:08,208 --> 01:55:11,083
It could like, I don't know, I felt like
1732
01:55:11,083 --> 01:55:11,833
it could have been more fleshed out.
1733
01:55:11,833 --> 01:55:12,958
But for the time, it was really good.
1734
01:55:13,250 --> 01:55:13,833
Like, don't get me wrong.
1735
01:55:14,125 --> 01:55:16,541
I won't dive into this much more, but I
1736
01:55:16,541 --> 01:55:18,666
think for its time, it was good.
1737
01:55:19,833 --> 01:55:22,000
It's just I think I have a
1738
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,166
little bit of a taint of like
1739
01:55:23,916 --> 01:55:25,875
playing Half-Life or playing some other
1740
01:55:25,875 --> 01:55:28,333
games where that was just my fixation
1741
01:55:28,333 --> 01:55:30,666
and how I liked my delivery
1742
01:55:30,666 --> 01:55:32,000
of games or Final Fantasy.
1743
01:55:32,250 --> 01:55:33,291
Like I played tons of like
1744
01:55:33,291 --> 01:55:34,875
really story heavy games.
1745
01:55:35,875 --> 01:55:38,041
So yeah, I understand.
1746
01:55:38,250 --> 01:55:40,125
Yeah, so I think Halo's biggest success
1747
01:55:40,125 --> 01:55:43,250
was like the presentation because yeah,
1748
01:55:43,541 --> 01:55:46,708
the story on paper doesn't sound that
1749
01:55:46,708 --> 01:55:48,291
like unique or interesting.
1750
01:55:49,166 --> 01:55:50,250
But like the cutscene,
1751
01:55:50,250 --> 01:55:51,625
like Halo 2's cutscenes,
1752
01:55:52,375 --> 01:55:53,500
they had some like actual
1753
01:55:53,500 --> 01:55:54,958
cinematography going on there.
1754
01:55:55,666 --> 01:55:57,708
So much so that like the remastered
1755
01:55:57,708 --> 01:55:59,166
version of Halo 2,
1756
01:55:59,583 --> 01:56:00,666
the anniversary edition,
1757
01:56:01,083 --> 01:56:02,375
they basically just use the same
1758
01:56:02,375 --> 01:56:03,875
cinematography, but like upgraded
1759
01:56:03,875 --> 01:56:04,958
the graphics and like,
1760
01:56:04,958 --> 01:56:06,041
the fix and all that stuff.
1761
01:56:06,666 --> 01:56:07,916
So it's like I don't
1762
01:56:07,916 --> 01:56:09,375
it's not nearly one to one,
1763
01:56:09,875 --> 01:56:11,000
but the idea is like
1764
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:12,708
nearly one to one, so to speak.
1765
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,166
It's yeah. Yeah.
1766
01:56:14,458 --> 01:56:16,208
It like elevates them.
1767
01:56:16,208 --> 01:56:19,583
It makes it like look real nice like.
1768
01:56:20,750 --> 01:56:21,166
I don't know.
1769
01:56:21,208 --> 01:56:22,875
It's definitely more of a remake than a
1770
01:56:22,875 --> 01:56:24,708
remap or more of a remake
1771
01:56:24,708 --> 01:56:26,625
than like a like a redo.
1772
01:56:26,958 --> 01:56:28,750
Yeah, yeah, that's that's fair.
1773
01:56:28,750 --> 01:56:29,125
That's fair.
1774
01:56:30,250 --> 01:56:30,458
Halo.
1775
01:56:31,875 --> 01:56:33,625
Yeah, I mean, what we're talking about.
1776
01:56:34,375 --> 01:56:36,250
We were talking about Sony's leadership
1777
01:56:36,250 --> 01:56:37,583
and we got off on Halo.
1778
01:56:37,583 --> 01:56:38,833
Yeah, that's what we want
1779
01:56:38,833 --> 01:56:39,875
to talk about all the time.
1780
01:56:40,333 --> 01:56:43,208
But but I mean, the thing is that kind of
1781
01:56:43,208 --> 01:56:44,250
leads us to our next story.
1782
01:56:45,125 --> 01:56:46,625
Microsoft's bringing Halo to everything
1783
01:56:46,625 --> 01:56:49,041
and the Moon Studios CEO
1784
01:56:49,125 --> 01:56:50,375
believes Sony is going to follow
1785
01:56:50,375 --> 01:56:51,333
Microsoft's example.
1786
01:56:52,666 --> 01:56:54,916
What do we think about this high tech?
1787
01:56:55,625 --> 01:56:57,333
So for those who don't know, Moon Studios
1788
01:56:57,333 --> 01:56:59,416
is the guy are the guys behind
1789
01:56:59,416 --> 01:57:01,666
or in the blind forest and the sequel.
1790
01:57:01,916 --> 01:57:04,166
And most recently, no
1791
01:57:04,166 --> 01:57:05,083
rest for the wicked.
1792
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:10,166
And so. They have they had a relationship
1793
01:57:10,166 --> 01:57:11,250
with Microsoft, of
1794
01:57:11,250 --> 01:57:13,041
course, with the Ori games.
1795
01:57:14,291 --> 01:57:15,750
So I am kind of believe
1796
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:16,958
that's a little biased.
1797
01:57:17,625 --> 01:57:19,541
Another new list game is on everything,
1798
01:57:19,541 --> 01:57:21,125
and it's not like Microsoft published.
1799
01:57:21,708 --> 01:57:22,458
But I do think it
1800
01:57:22,458 --> 01:57:23,708
might be a little biased.
1801
01:57:23,708 --> 01:57:24,750
I'm not sure if Sony will
1802
01:57:24,750 --> 01:57:27,916
push everything on Xbox.
1803
01:57:28,333 --> 01:57:28,958
I don't know if they'll
1804
01:57:28,958 --> 01:57:30,000
even put anything on Xbox.
1805
01:57:30,125 --> 01:57:33,291
So they have they had a set up to like,
1806
01:57:33,291 --> 01:57:34,125
you know, death stranding.
1807
01:57:34,833 --> 01:57:35,666
You know, that's how you
1808
01:57:35,666 --> 01:57:37,083
know how that's on G force now.
1809
01:57:38,583 --> 01:57:40,666
So I don't know if this has changed, but
1810
01:57:40,666 --> 01:57:41,916
death stranding at one point
1811
01:57:41,916 --> 01:57:43,833
was on G force now because it was on PC
1812
01:57:43,833 --> 01:57:47,000
and you can you can access G force now
1813
01:57:47,125 --> 01:57:50,166
on Xbox, except for that one game.
1814
01:57:51,875 --> 01:57:54,125
Except for death stranding,
1815
01:57:54,750 --> 01:57:56,291
because Sony mandated it, sir,
1816
01:57:56,291 --> 01:57:57,500
because they didn't want people to play
1817
01:57:57,500 --> 01:57:58,583
death stranding on an Xbox,
1818
01:57:59,208 --> 01:58:00,583
even though it was a PC version that was
1819
01:58:00,583 --> 01:58:01,625
published by someone else.
1820
01:58:03,125 --> 01:58:04,750
So I'm inclined to believe
1821
01:58:04,750 --> 01:58:05,875
that this is not the case.
1822
01:58:06,500 --> 01:58:08,291
I think new studios might be wrong.
1823
01:58:09,916 --> 01:58:12,375
Yeah, I mean, Sony, I think Sony
1824
01:58:12,375 --> 01:58:14,708
understands the importance of having
1825
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,666
exclusives for their platform as a as a
1826
01:58:18,666 --> 01:58:20,250
driver for their for the
1827
01:58:20,250 --> 01:58:21,041
sales of their hardware.
1828
01:58:21,666 --> 01:58:23,166
And I don't know if they
1829
01:58:23,166 --> 01:58:25,833
would like completely abandon
1830
01:58:26,916 --> 01:58:29,500
exclusive with the way Microsoft has.
1831
01:58:29,625 --> 01:58:31,416
Everything can't be an Xbox and a
1832
01:58:31,416 --> 01:58:32,750
PlayStation at the same time, right?
1833
01:58:34,375 --> 01:58:37,541
Right. It has to be one or the other.
1834
01:58:38,916 --> 01:58:40,000
I think we're getting
1835
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,416
into a world where it's all
1836
01:58:43,250 --> 01:58:46,000
companies feel like I say the same thing
1837
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:47,416
every week, potentially.
1838
01:58:47,416 --> 01:58:48,041
The companies have to
1839
01:58:48,041 --> 01:58:48,958
keep on making money, right?
1840
01:58:49,666 --> 01:58:50,708
So every year they need
1841
01:58:50,708 --> 01:58:51,666
to make more and more.
1842
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:53,250
So if they can't
1843
01:58:53,250 --> 01:58:54,250
reach that, they're going.
1844
01:58:54,291 --> 01:58:55,875
That's why they put I think that's why
1845
01:58:55,875 --> 01:58:57,750
Sony started putting PlayStation games
1846
01:58:57,750 --> 01:59:00,250
on Steam is because they need
1847
01:59:00,250 --> 01:59:02,166
to keep on making more money
1848
01:59:02,458 --> 01:59:04,166
and keep increasing like how much they
1849
01:59:04,166 --> 01:59:05,208
make for their shareholders.
1850
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:08,083
And I think that's why they did it.
1851
01:59:08,500 --> 01:59:11,583
So I would not be shocked in 10 years if
1852
01:59:11,583 --> 01:59:13,583
people even know what a console is.
1853
01:59:14,541 --> 01:59:15,375
A traditional console.
1854
01:59:16,666 --> 01:59:18,250
So I mean, yeah, the
1855
01:59:18,250 --> 01:59:19,500
thing is, I think Sony,
1856
01:59:19,916 --> 01:59:21,208
I think Sony would definitely
1857
01:59:23,208 --> 01:59:25,458
like publish all of their first party
1858
01:59:25,458 --> 01:59:27,500
games on PC and console.
1859
01:59:28,875 --> 01:59:30,000
But I don't think they're
1860
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:31,500
going to do what Xbox is doing
1861
01:59:31,500 --> 01:59:34,166
where they get rid of their console or or
1862
01:59:34,166 --> 01:59:35,708
just like not treated
1863
01:59:35,708 --> 01:59:36,583
as like a first class
1864
01:59:36,583 --> 01:59:37,541
citizen in their lineup.
1865
01:59:37,833 --> 01:59:39,875
You know, I just don't see that happening
1866
01:59:39,875 --> 01:59:41,666
at least anytime soon.
1867
01:59:42,333 --> 01:59:43,916
Hardware wise, for sure, like the like we
1868
01:59:43,916 --> 01:59:44,750
talked about last week,
1869
01:59:44,750 --> 01:59:47,708
the PS5 controller is amazing.
1870
01:59:48,958 --> 01:59:50,791
And so I definitely wouldn't want to see
1871
01:59:50,791 --> 01:59:51,625
them go away from that.
1872
01:59:51,666 --> 01:59:53,375
And I'd like to see that initiative, but
1873
01:59:53,375 --> 01:59:55,875
I do like to also see them open up more
1874
01:59:56,541 --> 01:59:58,833
and to have like make sure
1875
01:59:58,833 --> 01:59:59,875
that this just works anywhere
1876
01:59:59,875 --> 02:00:02,333
that their game is, that this works.
1877
02:00:02,750 --> 02:00:03,583
And I think that'd be a
1878
02:00:03,583 --> 02:00:05,000
huge initiative for them.
1879
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:05,833
And then they could eventually
1880
02:00:07,208 --> 02:00:08,708
diverse out of consoles if they really
1881
02:00:08,708 --> 02:00:09,375
wanted to and still
1882
02:00:09,375 --> 02:00:11,208
have like a solid hardware.
1883
02:00:11,833 --> 02:00:13,708
Yeah. But like I want
1884
02:00:13,708 --> 02:00:14,708
to see consoles start
1885
02:00:15,625 --> 02:00:18,125
taking risks again to where it's like,
1886
02:00:18,125 --> 02:00:19,416
why do I buy the like it's
1887
02:00:20,083 --> 02:00:21,666
right now, you're just buying
1888
02:00:21,666 --> 02:00:25,250
a PC with a very powerful APU.
1889
02:00:25,250 --> 02:00:26,333
That's what you're buying
1890
02:00:26,333 --> 02:00:28,291
right now when you get console and
1891
02:00:29,416 --> 02:00:31,208
and develop like and for
1892
02:00:31,208 --> 02:00:33,750
developers, like they have an SDK,
1893
02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:36,833
like a really good SDK to work off of and
1894
02:00:36,833 --> 02:00:37,958
can guarantee performance
1895
02:00:37,958 --> 02:00:39,750
for a certain level beyond that.
1896
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,416
Consoles don't offer anything else.
1897
02:00:44,541 --> 02:00:46,791
It feels like especially Xbox, Xbox just
1898
02:00:46,791 --> 02:00:47,666
doesn't offer anything.
1899
02:00:48,041 --> 02:00:50,750
No. So here's something here's something
1900
02:00:50,750 --> 02:00:51,458
I want to talk about.
1901
02:00:52,125 --> 02:00:54,250
So Sony, as you know, Sony has been
1902
02:00:54,250 --> 02:00:55,208
releasing games on PC,
1903
02:00:55,541 --> 02:00:56,291
but they usually release them
1904
02:00:56,291 --> 02:00:57,458
in like a two year interval.
1905
02:00:58,083 --> 02:01:00,791
Like the original God of War PS4 came out
1906
02:01:00,791 --> 02:01:02,333
and then two years later,
1907
02:01:02,833 --> 02:01:04,541
it came out on PC.
1908
02:01:05,625 --> 02:01:07,208
So now my question is, do you
1909
02:01:07,208 --> 02:01:08,750
see them shortening that gap
1910
02:01:08,750 --> 02:01:10,958
or maybe even releasing them on day one?
1911
02:01:10,958 --> 02:01:12,041
Because I mean, I've seen
1912
02:01:12,041 --> 02:01:13,208
him shorten the gap already.
1913
02:01:13,250 --> 02:01:15,375
Like it didn't they didn't wait two years
1914
02:01:15,375 --> 02:01:17,791
to release Spider-Man 2 on PC.
1915
02:01:22,166 --> 02:01:23,541
I could see them shortening the gap, but
1916
02:01:23,541 --> 02:01:24,541
right now I don't know.
1917
02:01:24,833 --> 02:01:25,958
I don't know if they will,
1918
02:01:25,958 --> 02:01:27,666
but I could see them doing it.
1919
02:01:28,125 --> 02:01:29,500
Yeah. I said last week.
1920
02:01:30,041 --> 02:01:31,583
I'm sorry. I think I
1921
02:01:31,583 --> 02:01:34,000
think the thing is like if you
1922
02:01:35,500 --> 02:01:38,166
don't release your game day one on PC,
1923
02:01:38,166 --> 02:01:40,083
you're telling PC gamers to wait.
1924
02:01:40,375 --> 02:01:42,125
Right. Like if you have a PlayStation
1925
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and an X and a PC, you know, if I did,
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then I would wait for the PC version and
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I would I would wait.
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And if you make them wait too long,
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they're just going to wait
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for a sale at that point.
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Yep. So I don't know.
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I think it makes a lot of
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sense for them to shorten the gap
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because they're going to have their
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dedicated hardware guys that
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only play on on PlayStation.
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And then they're going
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to have their PC sales.
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And I think that that's
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that would be their smart move.
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And so now.
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D would you buy Astrobond PC, James?
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Yes, but I honestly might still would
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have bought it on PlayStation 5 first
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because, well, it doesn't have co-op.
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That's true.
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Because if it has co-op, then I'm almost
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guaranteed to get it on console
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because it's just easier to deal with.
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02:02:35,958 --> 02:02:36,875
Oh, damn, that is a
1951
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that is a benefit. Yeah.
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It's just easier, like with my kids and
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stuff, it's just going to be easier.
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And they've been enjoying the PS5 lately
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a lot more, which is nice
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because it was
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collecting dust for like a year.
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02:02:48,166 --> 02:02:50,875
But I mean, for certain games, yeah, like
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I have I own Ratchet and Clank,
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the new one, the Rift, the Rift one.
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I have not beat it.
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I want to play it on PS5, but then I want
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to play it on the Steam Deck.
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And so I'm like.
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But I haven't bought it for the Steam
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Deck yet, but I'm kind of like,
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you know, I definitely play that game
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where if I know, especially if it's like
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GTA six, right, I might buy it day one
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02:03:18,666 --> 02:03:21,083
for the PS6 if I get talked into it.
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02:03:21,083 --> 02:03:22,875
But there's a good chance I'll just wait
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for the PC if I really want to get it.
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Like because mods and everything else,
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02:03:26,541 --> 02:03:29,291
like why would I not get it for the PC?
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Yeah. And buying a PC game just to me
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feels like a better investment, like I'll
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be able to play it longer on newer
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hardware when I upgrade.
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Yeah. How do you own the game forever
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and not have to worry about if the game's
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going to be backwards compatible?
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02:03:46,458 --> 02:03:47,291
I mean, it depends on
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where you buy it from.
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02:03:48,250 --> 02:03:49,333
But yeah, for the most part,
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it's well with a little CD
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02:03:53,166 --> 02:03:56,041
key kind of a little magic.
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With a little magic, it can be forever.
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Oh, yeah.
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And you can burn it to your own CDs too
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or Blu-rays or whatever.
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Floppy disk, I mean, I'm
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an 80 80 floppy disk person.
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Did how many floppy disks around here?
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02:04:12,458 --> 02:04:13,791
Did how many floppy disks will it take to
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02:04:13,791 --> 02:04:16,458
store a single like 100 gig game?
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Have a call duty.
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Oh, God. All right.
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02:04:20,666 --> 02:04:22,000
We got to do the math right now.
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02:04:22,375 --> 02:04:23,500
What is the biggest floppy?
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02:04:23,500 --> 02:04:24,625
You'll see the biggest
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one point four or five.
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02:04:26,875 --> 02:04:27,833
One point four or four
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megabytes for a normal.
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02:04:29,291 --> 02:04:31,500
And then you can jam like a a
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density, a higher density one
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02:04:33,041 --> 02:04:35,875
that was less than one like two eight, I
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think you do zip one for four.
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02:04:38,708 --> 02:04:39,791
For me, I did.
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02:04:40,166 --> 02:04:42,208
Yeah, dude, that was such a big deal.
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02:04:42,833 --> 02:04:44,541
So let's see.
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02:04:48,208 --> 02:04:51,125
So one point four four megabytes is zero
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point zero zero one four four gigabytes.
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02:04:53,916 --> 02:04:56,750
OK. And let's see how
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let's see how many copies of.
2015
02:04:58,416 --> 02:05:00,041
Let's see how many disks it would take to
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02:05:00,041 --> 02:05:03,541
store, say, 300 gigabytes for call duty.
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You're crazy.
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02:05:07,041 --> 02:05:09,666
So it would take if my math is correct, I
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02:05:09,666 --> 02:05:11,833
did 300 divided by zero point zero zero
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02:05:11,833 --> 02:05:13,333
one four four, it would take
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02:05:13,333 --> 02:05:15,583
approximately two hundred
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02:05:15,583 --> 02:05:17,583
and eight thousand three
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02:05:17,583 --> 02:05:19,083
hundred thirty three point three three
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02:05:19,083 --> 02:05:19,666
three three three
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three three three three.
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02:05:21,500 --> 02:05:24,041
Floppy disks to store war zone.
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02:05:25,208 --> 02:05:26,208
You got to round that up.
2028
02:05:26,208 --> 02:05:27,416
But yeah, that's funny.
2029
02:05:28,125 --> 02:05:30,458
No, I don't want to I don't want to like
2030
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have to sift through disk two hundred
2031
02:05:32,708 --> 02:05:34,500
and eighty thousand or whatever.
2032
02:05:34,750 --> 02:05:35,916
Please insert this two
2033
02:05:35,916 --> 02:05:36,875
hundred and eighty thousand.
2034
02:05:36,875 --> 02:05:37,625
How long? OK.
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02:05:37,625 --> 02:05:39,083
How long would it be to copy it?
2036
02:05:39,083 --> 02:05:40,541
Because I know some companies have done
2037
02:05:40,541 --> 02:05:42,166
like little weird things like this.
2038
02:05:42,166 --> 02:05:43,041
But like how long
2039
02:05:43,041 --> 02:05:45,208
would it take to copy that?
2040
02:05:45,583 --> 02:05:47,750
Is there like a is there like a is there
2041
02:05:47,750 --> 02:05:48,791
like a NASA equivalent
2042
02:05:48,791 --> 02:05:50,791
for like floppy disks?
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02:05:52,958 --> 02:05:53,666
I don't know.
2044
02:05:54,125 --> 02:05:56,083
Like is there like is there like a USB
2045
02:05:56,083 --> 02:05:58,750
dongle that lets you put in like 20
2046
02:05:58,750 --> 02:06:00,375
floppy disks and just read
2047
02:06:00,375 --> 02:06:02,541
those one big one big one.
2048
02:06:02,541 --> 02:06:05,291
It wouldn't make sense, but you could you
2049
02:06:05,291 --> 02:06:06,125
could read something.
2050
02:06:06,125 --> 02:06:07,125
You could probably do
2051
02:06:07,125 --> 02:06:09,958
100 per 10 minutes down.
2052
02:06:10,416 --> 02:06:13,500
Wait a minute. How how many was it?
2053
02:06:13,833 --> 02:06:15,166
How many how many copies?
2054
02:06:16,583 --> 02:06:18,750
You would need about two hundred thousand
2055
02:06:18,750 --> 02:06:20,458
two hundred and eight thousand
2056
02:06:21,041 --> 02:06:22,000
floppy disks, two
2057
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:23,166
hundred and eight thousand.
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02:06:23,500 --> 02:06:24,875
A little more than that, actually, but I
2059
02:06:24,875 --> 02:06:25,791
don't know the exact number.
2060
02:06:26,708 --> 02:06:29,125
It's you can round it up at that.
2061
02:06:29,125 --> 02:06:31,083
And then multiply that by.
2062
02:06:32,250 --> 02:06:33,750
So that would cost for
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02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:35,041
one copy of the game.
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02:06:35,500 --> 02:06:38,208
It would cost approximately five hundred
2065
02:06:38,208 --> 02:06:39,833
and eighty two million dollars
2066
02:06:40,416 --> 02:06:41,708
if you bought them, if you
2067
02:06:41,708 --> 02:06:43,041
bought the disks at retail.
2068
02:06:43,791 --> 02:06:46,166
See this. Oh, my God.
2069
02:06:47,208 --> 02:06:48,958
This is a feature Rockstar
2070
02:06:48,958 --> 02:06:51,041
wants where we spend five hundred
2071
02:06:51,041 --> 02:06:51,958
and something million
2072
02:06:51,958 --> 02:06:53,083
dollars on a single copy.
2073
02:06:53,083 --> 02:06:55,041
I was wondering why I was wondering where
2074
02:06:55,041 --> 02:06:55,916
they were starting to buy
2075
02:06:55,916 --> 02:06:57,583
like investments in
2076
02:06:57,583 --> 02:06:58,708
floppy disk technology.
2077
02:06:59,291 --> 02:07:01,166
Right. Oh, here we go.
2078
02:07:01,166 --> 02:07:03,541
Two oh eight. Oh, my gosh.
2079
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:04,916
This is this is like our
2080
02:07:04,916 --> 02:07:06,583
biggest tangent episode yet.
2081
02:07:07,250 --> 02:07:09,666
But you know, it's fun. I'm here for it.
2082
02:07:09,666 --> 02:07:11,500
Dude, time. Ninety nine
2083
02:07:11,500 --> 02:07:13,000
dollars and ninety nine cents.
2084
02:07:13,708 --> 02:07:15,291
Yeah. OK. So if you buy them in bulk,
2085
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:17,916
you can get you can get it for four
2086
02:07:17,916 --> 02:07:18,750
hundred and fifteen.
2087
02:07:19,750 --> 02:07:20,708
Oh, I'm sorry. That's four
2088
02:07:20,708 --> 02:07:21,916
hundred and fifteen thousand.
2089
02:07:21,916 --> 02:07:23,375
I read that wrong. It was five hundred
2090
02:07:23,375 --> 02:07:24,833
and eighty two thousand.
2091
02:07:25,291 --> 02:07:26,708
OK, so that's OK.
2092
02:07:27,166 --> 02:07:28,208
That's a lot. OK.
2093
02:07:28,583 --> 02:07:29,833
You might be able to afford that.
2094
02:07:30,958 --> 02:07:32,500
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
2095
02:07:32,500 --> 02:07:34,208
You can buy that out. Yeah.
2096
02:07:34,208 --> 02:07:34,958
Just sell your house.
2097
02:07:36,750 --> 02:07:39,625
So dude. Oh, yeah, man.
2098
02:07:40,500 --> 02:07:42,666
So PlayStation games on PC.
2099
02:07:42,916 --> 02:07:45,083
Thank God. Thank God
2100
02:07:45,083 --> 02:07:46,916
we have fucking drives
2101
02:07:47,041 --> 02:07:48,750
that are like more than a megabyte.
2102
02:07:49,958 --> 02:07:52,041
Hmm. Yep. Technology
2103
02:07:52,041 --> 02:07:53,208
keeps on getting better.
2104
02:07:53,958 --> 02:07:55,666
Yeah. Um, speaking of
2105
02:07:55,666 --> 02:07:58,291
playing games indefinitely,
2106
02:07:59,458 --> 02:08:01,125
PlayStation drops PSN
2107
02:08:01,125 --> 02:08:02,666
account requirements on PC.
2108
02:08:03,583 --> 02:08:06,791
How do we feel about this? Good. Yeah.
2109
02:08:07,041 --> 02:08:09,416
I feel good. It didn't bother me too
2110
02:08:09,416 --> 02:08:11,125
much, but it was still annoying.
2111
02:08:11,458 --> 02:08:12,458
And especially for
2112
02:08:12,458 --> 02:08:14,000
long term reasons, right?
2113
02:08:14,500 --> 02:08:16,625
Like sometimes games when they
2114
02:08:17,375 --> 02:08:19,458
slap that on there in like 10 years,
2115
02:08:19,833 --> 02:08:21,541
maybe they don't support the PSN network
2116
02:08:21,541 --> 02:08:22,791
in such a way anymore.
2117
02:08:22,791 --> 02:08:24,750
And it stops working Microsoft.
2118
02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:28,458
And this is actually coming from.
2119
02:08:29,333 --> 02:08:31,916
I got a lot of this information from.
2120
02:08:33,041 --> 02:08:33,875
I think it was the age
2121
02:08:33,875 --> 02:08:35,708
of you steam deck HQ.
2122
02:08:36,083 --> 02:08:38,166
So go over there and look at
2123
02:08:38,166 --> 02:08:39,708
that article that he has up.
2124
02:08:40,291 --> 02:08:43,000
But no, that is. But yeah, PlayStation
2125
02:08:43,208 --> 02:08:44,708
initially required a PlayStation Network
2126
02:08:44,708 --> 02:08:46,416
PSN account for PC games like
2127
02:08:46,416 --> 02:08:47,583
Helldivers 2 restricting
2128
02:08:47,583 --> 02:08:49,583
purchases in over 170 countries,
2129
02:08:49,875 --> 02:08:50,833
which that one was a
2130
02:08:50,833 --> 02:08:52,125
crazy when it dropped.
2131
02:08:52,125 --> 02:08:53,583
They could pissed a lot of people off.
2132
02:08:54,125 --> 02:08:55,916
That dropped about almost a year ago.
2133
02:08:56,541 --> 02:08:57,916
While they removed this requirement for
2134
02:08:57,916 --> 02:08:59,666
Helldivers 2, the restriction remained.
2135
02:08:59,875 --> 02:09:00,666
They had to because
2136
02:09:00,666 --> 02:09:02,458
they were going to do it.
2137
02:09:02,458 --> 02:09:03,125
Because I don't think it
2138
02:09:03,125 --> 02:09:04,375
didn't not ship with it.
2139
02:09:04,375 --> 02:09:05,833
It didn't ship with the requirement.
2140
02:09:05,833 --> 02:09:06,416
Then they were going
2141
02:09:06,416 --> 02:09:08,291
to require it pissed.
2142
02:09:10,291 --> 02:09:12,791
Thousands of people off returns occurred
2143
02:09:12,791 --> 02:09:14,708
like it was such a dumb mistake.
2144
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:16,125
And I wasn't sure if they
2145
02:09:16,125 --> 02:09:16,875
were going to revert it.
2146
02:09:16,875 --> 02:09:18,416
They did revert it like this says.
2147
02:09:18,958 --> 02:09:21,041
And then however, PlayStation has now
2148
02:09:21,041 --> 02:09:22,000
reversed this policy
2149
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:23,000
for upcoming releases
2150
02:09:23,125 --> 02:09:26,291
like are they released, meaning they're
2151
02:09:26,291 --> 02:09:29,500
continuing to not require PSN
2152
02:09:30,250 --> 02:09:32,333
now on games where it previously was like
2153
02:09:32,333 --> 02:09:33,208
God of War Ragnarok,
2154
02:09:33,500 --> 02:09:35,458
The Last of Us Part 2, Horizon Zero Dawn
2155
02:09:35,458 --> 02:09:37,250
Remastered, Marvel Spider-Man 2,
2156
02:09:37,916 --> 02:09:40,000
making account linking optional and
2157
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:41,458
offering in-game rewards instead,
2158
02:09:41,458 --> 02:09:42,416
which I'm fine with
2159
02:09:42,416 --> 02:09:43,833
them going right this way.
2160
02:09:43,833 --> 02:09:45,375
If they want to incentivize for them to
2161
02:09:45,375 --> 02:09:47,375
use their system, go for it.
2162
02:09:47,375 --> 02:09:49,833
But I'm already using Steam and you can
2163
02:09:49,833 --> 02:09:52,208
I'm already can save my saves
2164
02:09:52,375 --> 02:09:53,041
and a bunch of other
2165
02:09:53,041 --> 02:09:54,083
things through there.
2166
02:09:54,541 --> 02:09:55,916
Do the trophy program through there.
2167
02:09:55,916 --> 02:09:59,375
I don't like some PC players just don't
2168
02:09:59,375 --> 02:10:01,125
ever want to have a PlayStation account.
2169
02:10:01,500 --> 02:10:02,125
They don't care.
2170
02:10:03,666 --> 02:10:05,375
Me personally, I mean, I play both.
2171
02:10:05,416 --> 02:10:08,166
I've had PlayStation stuff forever, so it
2172
02:10:08,166 --> 02:10:09,250
doesn't bother me as much.
2173
02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:11,750
But sometimes on the Steam Deck, it's
2174
02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:12,625
really annoying when
2175
02:10:12,625 --> 02:10:14,083
that PSN thing pops up.
2176
02:10:14,916 --> 02:10:17,750
Yeah. Well, and like for me, I don't I
2177
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:18,750
don't think I've ever played
2178
02:10:18,750 --> 02:10:20,458
a PlayStation game that's required it.
2179
02:10:21,833 --> 02:10:25,416
But the thing is, I have played Xbox
2180
02:10:25,416 --> 02:10:27,666
games that require you to log in.
2181
02:10:27,833 --> 02:10:28,916
And it's like, yeah.
2182
02:10:29,125 --> 02:10:29,916
And it's like I'm on
2183
02:10:29,916 --> 02:10:32,166
my Steam Deck and I take
2184
02:10:33,083 --> 02:10:35,333
password security very seriously.
2185
02:10:35,833 --> 02:10:37,750
Right. So I'm I'm in a
2186
02:10:37,750 --> 02:10:38,916
full screen application.
2187
02:10:39,458 --> 02:10:42,083
I don't have access to the keyboard, the
2188
02:10:42,083 --> 02:10:44,041
clipboard to copy and
2189
02:10:44,041 --> 02:10:45,333
paste my password in.
2190
02:10:45,916 --> 02:10:48,958
Oh, gosh, dude, I'm like literally I'm
2191
02:10:48,958 --> 02:10:51,000
not going to play Xbox games
2192
02:10:51,083 --> 02:10:53,458
because like I'm not going to type in a
2193
02:10:53,458 --> 02:10:55,583
70 character password or whatever.
2194
02:10:55,875 --> 02:10:57,500
Jesus. You log into my account.
2195
02:10:57,500 --> 02:10:58,125
You're ready for that.
2196
02:10:58,333 --> 02:11:00,708
I and super computer.
2197
02:11:01,166 --> 02:11:01,583
What is it?
2198
02:11:02,166 --> 02:11:04,458
The quantum computer got
2199
02:11:04,458 --> 02:11:05,666
your quantum passwords out.
2200
02:11:06,125 --> 02:11:07,625
Damn. That's a yeah.
2201
02:11:07,625 --> 02:11:09,416
Yeah, I hear you on that one.
2202
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:12,833
The other thing about this is that
2203
02:11:12,833 --> 02:11:14,416
PlayStation, if there are
2204
02:11:14,416 --> 02:11:17,166
if there's one video game company that I
2205
02:11:17,166 --> 02:11:19,166
don't trust, it's PlayStation.
2206
02:11:19,583 --> 02:11:22,500
But it's just a history
2207
02:11:22,500 --> 02:11:24,791
of of like poor security
2208
02:11:25,166 --> 02:11:28,000
and like data breaches for for like
2209
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:29,416
literally the last 20 years.
2210
02:11:29,916 --> 02:11:31,166
Yeah. You know, I
2211
02:11:31,166 --> 02:11:32,208
don't trust them with that.
2212
02:11:32,958 --> 02:11:33,708
I take a different stance.
2213
02:11:34,041 --> 02:11:34,916
I trust them because I
2214
02:11:34,916 --> 02:11:36,083
know it will get leaked.
2215
02:11:36,500 --> 02:11:37,250
That's why I always have a
2216
02:11:37,250 --> 02:11:38,541
separate password for them.
2217
02:11:39,583 --> 02:11:41,583
Maybe I'm even might even well, actually,
2218
02:11:41,583 --> 02:11:42,458
technically, I have my old
2219
02:11:42,625 --> 02:11:44,208
Yahoo email with them and
2220
02:11:44,208 --> 02:11:45,041
I don't use anywhere else.
2221
02:11:45,333 --> 02:11:46,958
So like I'm pretty secure.
2222
02:11:47,166 --> 02:11:48,750
I know that it's going to leak on
2223
02:11:48,750 --> 02:11:49,791
PlayStation, so I'm
2224
02:11:49,791 --> 02:11:51,041
pretty prepared for that.
2225
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:54,833
So where the opposite is you get to
2226
02:11:54,833 --> 02:11:56,791
assure using GitHub or something else
2227
02:11:56,833 --> 02:11:58,416
and you're like, I will never leak, which
2228
02:11:58,416 --> 02:11:59,916
I think at this point,
2229
02:11:59,916 --> 02:12:02,208
almost every major company has had some
2230
02:12:02,208 --> 02:12:04,041
breach, whether they tell you or not.
2231
02:12:04,291 --> 02:12:06,125
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's kind of disgusting.
2232
02:12:06,125 --> 02:12:06,666
I'm pretty sure.
2233
02:12:06,708 --> 02:12:09,208
I'm pretty sure common practices is that
2234
02:12:09,208 --> 02:12:10,333
you're supposed to have
2235
02:12:10,333 --> 02:12:11,041
a different password
2236
02:12:11,041 --> 02:12:12,416
for every single website.
2237
02:12:12,416 --> 02:12:15,083
I know not everyone adheres to that, but
2238
02:12:15,083 --> 02:12:17,000
that's the common practice.
2239
02:12:18,416 --> 02:12:20,708
The most recent guidelines are to have a
2240
02:12:20,708 --> 02:12:22,333
unique email and password.
2241
02:12:22,791 --> 02:12:25,541
And most services let you do a plus tag
2242
02:12:25,541 --> 02:12:27,166
on your email address.
2243
02:12:27,666 --> 02:12:29,583
So you can do like what Gardner.
2244
02:12:30,333 --> 02:12:31,500
Yeah, you didn't know about this.
2245
02:12:31,500 --> 02:12:33,750
You can do like Gardner plus and then
2246
02:12:33,750 --> 02:12:36,833
anything and then at whatever dot com
2247
02:12:37,375 --> 02:12:39,833
and that plus whatever, like it can
2248
02:12:39,833 --> 02:12:40,833
literally be anything.
2249
02:12:40,833 --> 02:12:42,000
And it will go to your inbox.
2250
02:12:42,708 --> 02:12:44,791
It's typically testing, isn't it? But.
2251
02:12:46,041 --> 02:12:46,958
I didn't know that.
2252
02:12:48,375 --> 02:12:49,583
Does that actually do like?
2253
02:12:49,958 --> 02:12:51,833
So are you protecting from spam and stuff
2254
02:12:51,833 --> 02:12:52,708
coming to your inbox
2255
02:12:52,708 --> 02:12:54,166
or you're protecting just your email
2256
02:12:54,166 --> 02:12:55,791
getting leaked so they can't guess
2257
02:12:55,791 --> 02:12:56,750
your email and password
2258
02:12:56,750 --> 02:12:57,791
you have to give them?
2259
02:12:57,791 --> 02:12:58,625
They have to do both.
2260
02:12:59,166 --> 02:13:02,750
Right. So like it it adds an extra layer
2261
02:13:02,750 --> 02:13:05,375
of like not really obfuscation,
2262
02:13:05,375 --> 02:13:07,833
but like if your email address.
2263
02:13:08,583 --> 02:13:10,833
So what typically happens when data
2264
02:13:10,833 --> 02:13:12,708
breaches occur is like criminals
2265
02:13:12,708 --> 02:13:16,750
will get the the table and what they'll
2266
02:13:16,750 --> 02:13:18,666
do is they'll like just go in there
2267
02:13:18,750 --> 02:13:20,625
and and find matches.
2268
02:13:20,958 --> 02:13:23,500
They it's a naive match between an email
2269
02:13:23,500 --> 02:13:26,333
address and known leaked accounts.
2270
02:13:26,958 --> 02:13:28,666
And so if you just have that plus in
2271
02:13:28,666 --> 02:13:30,333
there, some some of them will get wise
2272
02:13:30,333 --> 02:13:31,083
to that eventually.
2273
02:13:31,291 --> 02:13:34,125
But right now, like it's it's not worth
2274
02:13:34,125 --> 02:13:36,208
the added effort of filtering out
2275
02:13:36,666 --> 02:13:40,625
that small like randomness for them to
2276
02:13:40,625 --> 02:13:43,166
like go through and find the low
2277
02:13:43,166 --> 02:13:44,250
hanging fruit and get
2278
02:13:44,250 --> 02:13:45,333
access to those accounts.
2279
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:46,666
Here's my thing.
2280
02:13:47,458 --> 02:13:47,791
Here's my
2281
02:13:47,791 --> 02:13:49,458
recommendation was was security.
2282
02:13:50,125 --> 02:13:51,916
Do multi factor authentication.
2283
02:13:52,666 --> 02:13:54,041
Yeah, do multi factor.
2284
02:13:54,041 --> 02:13:54,916
That's going to be the best.
2285
02:13:55,833 --> 02:13:59,458
Apple has pseudo emails, like meaning
2286
02:13:59,458 --> 02:14:01,250
when you sign up for an account,
2287
02:14:01,250 --> 02:14:03,125
you can have if you're using an Apple
2288
02:14:03,125 --> 02:14:05,375
system, they can give you a pseudo email
2289
02:14:06,333 --> 02:14:08,125
to use like so if I'm on my
2290
02:14:08,125 --> 02:14:09,291
iOS device like that, like,
2291
02:14:09,291 --> 02:14:10,708
do you want to use your real email or do
2292
02:14:10,708 --> 02:14:11,916
you want to use a pseudo one
2293
02:14:13,083 --> 02:14:13,916
to protect additional
2294
02:14:13,916 --> 02:14:15,250
privacy, which is which is nice.
2295
02:14:15,541 --> 02:14:16,125
I'll have to admit.
2296
02:14:17,291 --> 02:14:20,083
But multi factor is the way to go, guys,
2297
02:14:20,666 --> 02:14:22,500
like, yeah, everything should be.
2298
02:14:23,041 --> 02:14:24,458
There's more and more security happening
2299
02:14:24,458 --> 02:14:26,000
like pass keys, which are nice
2300
02:14:27,125 --> 02:14:27,958
because that's one of the things I
2301
02:14:27,958 --> 02:14:30,875
actually hate is I hate the password.
2302
02:14:30,875 --> 02:14:33,416
I would rather if there is if I could put
2303
02:14:33,416 --> 02:14:35,958
in two USB devices into my computer
2304
02:14:36,458 --> 02:14:38,916
to then initiate unlocking my system, I
2305
02:14:38,916 --> 02:14:39,666
would do it that way
2306
02:14:40,083 --> 02:14:41,166
as opposed to passwords.
2307
02:14:41,166 --> 02:14:41,916
I just they get
2308
02:14:41,916 --> 02:14:43,000
really annoying over time.
2309
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:44,458
I mean, those do exist, I believe.
2310
02:14:45,791 --> 02:14:47,416
They do, but they're not supported by
2311
02:14:47,416 --> 02:14:49,666
every they're not supported by most
2312
02:14:50,958 --> 02:14:52,666
systems. I'll tell you, it's
2313
02:14:52,666 --> 02:14:54,791
a lot easier to implement like
2314
02:14:56,791 --> 02:14:59,625
to a like TTP kind of thing than it is to
2315
02:14:59,625 --> 02:15:02,541
do the stuff like I've looked into it.
2316
02:15:02,750 --> 02:15:04,375
It's not that it's not a whole lot
2317
02:15:04,375 --> 02:15:05,291
harder, but it's enough
2318
02:15:05,291 --> 02:15:06,333
that I just haven't had
2319
02:15:06,333 --> 02:15:07,666
time to implement it in my
2320
02:15:08,666 --> 02:15:10,166
authentication stuff that I do.
2321
02:15:10,833 --> 02:15:13,958
But yeah, TTP is is really good.
2322
02:15:14,291 --> 02:15:16,666
Which one's that one?
2323
02:15:17,166 --> 02:15:18,916
It's like Google Authenticator or like
2324
02:15:18,916 --> 02:15:20,583
the plus or whatever.
2325
02:15:21,625 --> 02:15:24,041
So it's like you get the there's the app
2326
02:15:24,041 --> 02:15:25,333
on your phone, you tap it
2327
02:15:25,333 --> 02:15:26,125
and you get a one time
2328
02:15:26,125 --> 02:15:27,291
check that your password.
2329
02:15:27,666 --> 02:15:28,625
Yeah, there's a lot.
2330
02:15:28,875 --> 02:15:30,916
I mean, people find a way to hack people.
2331
02:15:30,916 --> 02:15:32,250
I mean, as far as I'm aware, like,
2332
02:15:32,250 --> 02:15:33,250
remember Linus Take Tips?
2333
02:15:33,250 --> 02:15:33,916
Remember how he got
2334
02:15:33,916 --> 02:15:35,333
hacked the first time?
2335
02:15:36,125 --> 02:15:38,833
Like how they stole his cookies.
2336
02:15:39,291 --> 02:15:42,208
Yeah, they like hijacked a session.
2337
02:15:42,250 --> 02:15:43,875
And that's that's
2338
02:15:43,875 --> 02:15:45,000
something that can happen.
2339
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:46,041
It bypassed all of his
2340
02:15:46,041 --> 02:15:47,041
two factor authentication.
2341
02:15:47,041 --> 02:15:48,500
Like I would think I don't think Linus
2342
02:15:48,500 --> 02:15:49,875
would like not have that at all.
2343
02:15:50,125 --> 02:15:51,583
But like it just went there anyways.
2344
02:15:52,250 --> 02:15:53,666
Thankfully, you two, you
2345
02:15:53,666 --> 02:15:54,625
know, got to give us a.
2346
02:15:55,458 --> 02:15:57,791
Oh, sorry. There's there's server cookies
2347
02:15:57,791 --> 02:15:59,208
are a way to go around that.
2348
02:15:59,208 --> 02:16:00,875
So if the service you're
2349
02:16:00,875 --> 02:16:02,750
using practices of good security,
2350
02:16:02,750 --> 02:16:04,458
you can do server cookies where they
2351
02:16:04,458 --> 02:16:06,208
can't do in between attacks.
2352
02:16:06,208 --> 02:16:07,500
They have to verify his things.
2353
02:16:07,833 --> 02:16:09,291
There's still always going to be some
2354
02:16:09,291 --> 02:16:10,541
little ways that they could.
2355
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:12,708
But though like his
2356
02:16:12,708 --> 02:16:14,583
attack would have been afforded
2357
02:16:14,666 --> 02:16:16,166
if the service he was
2358
02:16:16,166 --> 02:16:17,750
using used server cookies.
2359
02:16:18,041 --> 02:16:20,791
That was that was YouTube, which is
2360
02:16:20,791 --> 02:16:22,666
probably not using server cookies.
2361
02:16:23,541 --> 02:16:25,875
So fucking hell, which
2362
02:16:25,875 --> 02:16:27,250
is which is ridiculous
2363
02:16:27,416 --> 02:16:29,000
because you can't really steal the
2364
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:30,333
cookies from the server based
2365
02:16:30,666 --> 02:16:31,291
and you just have an
2366
02:16:31,291 --> 02:16:34,458
authentication like that gets re.
2367
02:16:35,416 --> 02:16:36,583
We don't need to go into all that, but
2368
02:16:36,583 --> 02:16:37,708
like there's a lot of ways to
2369
02:16:38,166 --> 02:16:39,208
to not have that happen.
2370
02:16:39,708 --> 02:16:41,250
I think the title of this episode should
2371
02:16:41,250 --> 02:16:42,916
be the tangent episode.
2372
02:16:43,166 --> 02:16:45,291
It is. Oh, I'm so tired.
2373
02:16:45,541 --> 02:16:48,916
So I tell you how hard I've tangented.
2374
02:16:49,333 --> 02:16:50,791
Did it did to today?
2375
02:16:51,083 --> 02:16:52,875
So it's not just you.
2376
02:16:54,666 --> 02:16:56,833
Speaking of SOTY,
2377
02:16:57,583 --> 02:17:02,500
they filed a DMCA of to Lance McDonald to
2378
02:17:02,500 --> 02:17:05,708
remove the bloodborne 60FPS patch.
2379
02:17:06,833 --> 02:17:08,541
Just ruining everybody's good crime.
2380
02:17:08,583 --> 02:17:12,625
What can so they so as you know,
2381
02:17:12,625 --> 02:17:16,208
bloodborne runs at 60FPS on PS4.
2382
02:17:16,875 --> 02:17:18,666
And I don't even think the game has a PS4
2383
02:17:18,666 --> 02:17:20,083
pro enhancement, much
2384
02:17:20,083 --> 02:17:21,541
less a PS5 enhancement.
2385
02:17:22,416 --> 02:17:25,041
So the game still runs at 60FPS.
2386
02:17:25,833 --> 02:17:28,333
But there is a patch that was made many
2387
02:17:28,333 --> 02:17:30,833
years ago for hacked PS4 pros
2388
02:17:31,416 --> 02:17:33,958
that lets the game run at 60FPS.
2389
02:17:34,500 --> 02:17:35,625
Well, guess what? No more.
2390
02:17:37,583 --> 02:17:39,416
Thanks. Yeah.
2391
02:17:40,041 --> 02:17:41,875
So are they going to adhere to it?
2392
02:17:41,875 --> 02:17:42,833
Did Lance McDonald
2393
02:17:42,833 --> 02:17:45,041
adhere or is he going to?
2394
02:17:45,375 --> 02:17:48,250
Yes, he did adhere to it because I
2395
02:17:48,250 --> 02:17:49,500
wouldn't want to fight a legal battle
2396
02:17:49,500 --> 02:17:50,458
against SOTY either.
2397
02:17:50,833 --> 02:17:52,416
I just don't know what legal presidents
2398
02:17:52,416 --> 02:17:54,250
they have on the frame rate.
2399
02:17:54,458 --> 02:17:56,083
I could see other things, but.
2400
02:17:56,833 --> 02:17:58,208
According to the screenshot from his
2401
02:17:58,208 --> 02:18:00,333
Discord post, they didn't
2402
02:18:00,333 --> 02:18:01,500
do it against the patch.
2403
02:18:01,500 --> 02:18:02,750
They did it against the
2404
02:18:02,750 --> 02:18:04,250
use of the word bloodborne,
2405
02:18:04,250 --> 02:18:05,041
which apparently they
2406
02:18:05,041 --> 02:18:06,125
have a trademark for.
2407
02:18:07,541 --> 02:18:09,875
Couldn't you just change the name, maybe?
2408
02:18:11,208 --> 02:18:12,583
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's ever
2409
02:18:12,583 --> 02:18:13,875
happened now to be honest.
2410
02:18:14,625 --> 02:18:17,000
I I feel like it's pretty tenuous to have
2411
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:19,041
a trademark on the term bloodborne.
2412
02:18:19,416 --> 02:18:21,791
Like a bloodborne illness is a thing.
2413
02:18:22,291 --> 02:18:22,875
Bloodborne pathogens.
2414
02:18:24,375 --> 02:18:25,625
Yeah. Well, you know, they don't have a
2415
02:18:25,625 --> 02:18:27,041
trademark on the like
2416
02:18:27,041 --> 02:18:28,750
medical term bloodborne.
2417
02:18:28,750 --> 02:18:29,708
So they only have it on the
2418
02:18:29,708 --> 02:18:31,791
game and like other media.
2419
02:18:32,666 --> 02:18:37,166
Do not do wait till Sony's feels like a
2420
02:18:37,166 --> 02:18:38,208
hospital for using the
2421
02:18:38,208 --> 02:18:39,666
term bloodborne pathogen.
2422
02:18:41,708 --> 02:18:43,458
That would be a that would be a sick
2423
02:18:43,458 --> 02:18:45,291
subtitle for like a bloodborne sequel.
2424
02:18:45,875 --> 02:18:47,666
Bloodborne pathogen.
2425
02:18:50,375 --> 02:18:50,916
You know what?
2426
02:18:51,166 --> 02:18:52,458
I agree with you on that.
2427
02:18:53,166 --> 02:18:54,458
Half of gin.
2428
02:18:55,833 --> 02:18:56,666
Half of gin.
2429
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:59,291
Like quite a bunch of.
2430
02:18:59,291 --> 02:18:59,708
Oh, yeah.
2431
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:00,041
You know, I think that's
a good question.
2432
02:19:00,166 --> 02:19:03,333
Yeah. You took it too nerdy.
2433
02:19:03,833 --> 02:19:06,250
Dude. Yeah, I don't know.
2434
02:19:07,166 --> 02:19:09,041
Anyway, that's silly.
2435
02:19:09,666 --> 02:19:10,958
And so many come on.
2436
02:19:11,166 --> 02:19:11,375
That's.
2437
02:19:13,416 --> 02:19:16,708
It's yeah, it is so bizarre, like so.
2438
02:19:18,333 --> 02:19:20,125
Yeah, couldn't he just change the name
2439
02:19:20,125 --> 02:19:21,291
then and have it work?
2440
02:19:21,291 --> 02:19:21,791
Do you think that's
2441
02:19:21,791 --> 02:19:22,458
what he's going to do?
2442
02:19:22,458 --> 02:19:23,166
What do you said?
2443
02:19:23,875 --> 02:19:26,083
He said also, I'm not stupid enough to
2444
02:19:26,083 --> 02:19:27,125
try to work around their
2445
02:19:27,125 --> 02:19:28,541
copyright to repost it.
2446
02:19:28,541 --> 02:19:29,333
That's what he said.
2447
02:19:29,583 --> 02:19:31,583
So I guess he's just given up.
2448
02:19:32,166 --> 02:19:33,125
So don't worry. It's
2449
02:19:33,125 --> 02:19:33,916
on the Internet forever.
2450
02:19:34,333 --> 02:19:36,083
True. Yeah, it's probably on
2451
02:19:36,083 --> 02:19:37,208
Internet Archive right now.
2452
02:19:37,208 --> 02:19:38,250
If you want to.
2453
02:19:38,583 --> 02:19:39,000
Hell yeah.
2454
02:19:39,333 --> 02:19:41,583
Oh, which which that's
2455
02:19:41,583 --> 02:19:43,000
another political topic.
2456
02:19:44,166 --> 02:19:46,666
You I do want to I do want to do this.
2457
02:19:46,666 --> 02:19:48,500
Like this is kind of like making me like
2458
02:19:48,500 --> 02:19:50,875
really want to make sure that people know
2459
02:19:51,041 --> 02:19:54,625
that the CDC and a bunch
2460
02:19:54,625 --> 02:19:56,000
of other government websites
2461
02:19:56,125 --> 02:19:58,000
are having a lot of data purges if they
2462
02:19:58,000 --> 02:19:59,500
relate to any certain topic
2463
02:20:00,541 --> 02:20:01,875
that the administration doesn't like.
2464
02:20:01,875 --> 02:20:03,000
And so there's a lot
2465
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:04,541
of people backing up.
2466
02:20:04,541 --> 02:20:06,291
There's a lot of Internet archivists that
2467
02:20:06,291 --> 02:20:07,583
are backing all that stuff up.
2468
02:20:08,250 --> 02:20:12,375
So if you like articles or certain things
2469
02:20:12,375 --> 02:20:13,083
of a certain nature,
2470
02:20:13,083 --> 02:20:14,333
you might want to go back up your data
2471
02:20:14,333 --> 02:20:15,833
because we're we're getting into a like
2472
02:20:15,833 --> 02:20:17,833
an information war, I think soon.
2473
02:20:18,666 --> 02:20:21,000
And I only say this partially so that
2474
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:23,333
people are ready for it
2475
02:20:23,375 --> 02:20:26,000
because it's interesting.
2476
02:20:26,583 --> 02:20:28,791
And I feel like with this type, like with
2477
02:20:28,791 --> 02:20:30,625
this game alone, like it's going to be
2478
02:20:30,625 --> 02:20:31,375
taken down, but it's going to be
2479
02:20:31,375 --> 02:20:32,333
available in different places.
2480
02:20:32,583 --> 02:20:34,000
Right. Right. This patch, not game.
2481
02:20:34,250 --> 02:20:36,208
But and I think that's important that
2482
02:20:36,208 --> 02:20:37,166
it's archived somewhere.
2483
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,541
I do like I don't like the idea of losing
2484
02:20:41,541 --> 02:20:43,625
people's work that does good.
2485
02:20:43,833 --> 02:20:44,750
That does good, I think,
2486
02:20:44,750 --> 02:20:45,958
you know, like I think this is
2487
02:20:46,875 --> 02:20:48,416
a good patch for the
2488
02:20:48,416 --> 02:20:49,750
game to run at 60 frames.
2489
02:20:50,041 --> 02:20:51,333
It seems maybe silly to
2490
02:20:51,333 --> 02:20:52,333
talk about a lot, but like
2491
02:20:52,958 --> 02:20:56,083
a lot of the stuff should be archived.
2492
02:20:56,708 --> 02:20:59,000
So can you add to that?
2493
02:20:59,333 --> 02:21:03,000
Could the government like DMCA data
2494
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:04,916
that's publicly owned like that,
2495
02:21:04,916 --> 02:21:07,083
like stuff that's being
2496
02:21:07,083 --> 02:21:09,291
purged from the their website?
2497
02:21:10,708 --> 02:21:12,083
DMCA, I don't think
2498
02:21:12,083 --> 02:21:13,083
so because it's public.
2499
02:21:13,500 --> 02:21:15,041
They can't technically, but it's the
2500
02:21:15,041 --> 02:21:16,875
government if they they make the rules.
2501
02:21:17,125 --> 02:21:19,958
So yeah, even though it's not supposed to
2502
02:21:19,958 --> 02:21:21,750
come from the executive branch,
2503
02:21:22,541 --> 02:21:24,791
it's they're not technically supposed to
2504
02:21:24,791 --> 02:21:25,500
do what they're doing.
2505
02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:27,375
But I don't know.
2506
02:21:28,166 --> 02:21:28,958
It's a crazy world.
2507
02:21:30,083 --> 02:21:34,458
All right. So I've watched.
2508
02:21:34,458 --> 02:21:35,416
I don't know what you guys, but I've
2509
02:21:35,416 --> 02:21:38,166
watched a bunch of the coverage
2510
02:21:38,166 --> 02:21:40,375
of the new Nvidia graphics cards.
2511
02:21:42,166 --> 02:21:43,500
What do you guys think about this?
2512
02:21:43,500 --> 02:21:44,916
This is the next story on the
2513
02:21:44,916 --> 02:21:47,666
on the on the document here.
2514
02:21:48,250 --> 02:21:51,041
The man with the 5000 series.
2515
02:21:51,541 --> 02:21:52,541
Now, this is a paper.
2516
02:21:52,958 --> 02:21:53,958
Now it's a paper launch
2517
02:21:53,958 --> 02:21:55,666
if I've ever seen one.
2518
02:21:56,041 --> 02:21:57,500
Yeah. Yeah.
2519
02:21:58,125 --> 02:22:00,041
Now explain to us what a paper launch is.
2520
02:22:00,791 --> 02:22:03,125
OK, so a paper launch is a product
2521
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:05,958
that only has like a
2522
02:22:05,958 --> 02:22:07,875
limited supply in stores.
2523
02:22:07,875 --> 02:22:09,458
It's not meant to be a limited edition
2524
02:22:09,458 --> 02:22:10,458
product or anything.
2525
02:22:10,458 --> 02:22:11,416
It's meant to be a product that's
2526
02:22:11,416 --> 02:22:12,666
available all the time
2527
02:22:13,208 --> 02:22:14,333
until like next the
2528
02:22:14,333 --> 02:22:15,166
next generation, whatever.
2529
02:22:15,958 --> 02:22:17,791
But there is so little
2530
02:22:17,791 --> 02:22:19,166
there are so few of these cards
2531
02:22:19,250 --> 02:22:21,333
sent out of stores that the only people
2532
02:22:21,333 --> 02:22:22,708
that got them are scalpers
2533
02:22:22,916 --> 02:22:26,875
and like tech reviewers. Mm hmm.
2534
02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:30,958
Scalpers again, do damn those guys, man.
2535
02:22:32,208 --> 02:22:33,083
How do you see my
2536
02:22:33,083 --> 02:22:34,458
community and they jump on it?
2537
02:22:34,458 --> 02:22:35,375
So let me ask you a question.
2538
02:22:35,750 --> 02:22:36,958
How do you feel about the two thousand
2539
02:22:36,958 --> 02:22:38,416
dollar price of a 50 90?
2540
02:22:39,791 --> 02:22:41,500
Ridiculous. How do you feel about it
2541
02:22:41,500 --> 02:22:42,250
being sold for nine
2542
02:22:42,250 --> 02:22:43,500
thousand dollars on eBay?
2543
02:22:44,250 --> 02:22:47,750
I was. Oh, I don't care about it.
2544
02:22:48,208 --> 02:22:49,875
Like, here's the thing. I don't care.
2545
02:22:50,125 --> 02:22:53,166
Like, if you sell me, I'm me personally,
2546
02:22:53,666 --> 02:22:55,583
I'm going to buy the 50 70,
2547
02:22:56,291 --> 02:22:58,583
have it not perform as well as the 40 90
2548
02:22:58,583 --> 02:23:01,541
and then or 40 80 or whatever
2549
02:23:01,541 --> 02:23:02,416
they said and then sue
2550
02:23:02,416 --> 02:23:03,458
them. So like, whatever.
2551
02:23:04,583 --> 02:23:06,166
Did you can't say that they'll use this.
2552
02:23:06,166 --> 02:23:07,125
They'll use the podcast
2553
02:23:07,125 --> 02:23:08,583
as evidence against you.
2554
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:10,000
I'm not going to sue them.
2555
02:23:10,291 --> 02:23:12,000
I know because well, evidence, what do
2556
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:12,833
you talk about evidence?
2557
02:23:12,833 --> 02:23:15,083
Like they can't use it against evidence.
2558
02:23:15,083 --> 02:23:17,125
But I'm not going to.
2559
02:23:17,333 --> 02:23:19,500
I'm messing, obviously, but like the 50.
2560
02:23:20,583 --> 02:23:21,541
I'd get the 50 70.
2561
02:23:23,541 --> 02:23:25,333
So I would I had to
2562
02:23:25,333 --> 02:23:26,500
get this next generation.
2563
02:23:26,500 --> 02:23:27,750
I'd probably get a 50 70, 50 80.
2564
02:23:28,375 --> 02:23:29,375
But if there's no.
2565
02:23:31,375 --> 02:23:33,208
Man, OK, let's just say
2566
02:23:33,208 --> 02:23:34,333
we're going to get to a topic
2567
02:23:34,333 --> 02:23:36,125
which could maybe be changing and videos
2568
02:23:36,125 --> 02:23:37,750
play on this because they do this
2569
02:23:37,791 --> 02:23:42,000
every time they do limited releases or
2570
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:44,041
and they do art and we do know.
2571
02:23:44,041 --> 02:23:46,375
And this is actually should be.
2572
02:23:48,041 --> 02:23:50,250
Prosecuted because I well, I don't
2573
02:23:50,250 --> 02:23:51,666
actually don't know, like, but anti.
2574
02:23:51,666 --> 02:23:52,791
They do a lot of anti
2575
02:23:52,791 --> 02:23:54,375
competitive and a lot of.
2576
02:23:57,250 --> 02:24:00,625
Supply shorted shorting on purpose for
2577
02:24:00,625 --> 02:24:01,666
demand to drive up demand.
2578
02:24:03,166 --> 02:24:06,291
Yeah. It's it's nasty.
2579
02:24:06,291 --> 02:24:08,333
I really, really hate this behavior.
2580
02:24:10,000 --> 02:24:10,500
Fucking Nvidia.
2581
02:24:12,125 --> 02:24:14,458
You know. I don't know.
2582
02:24:15,083 --> 02:24:16,666
I watched a bunch of reviews.
2583
02:24:17,750 --> 02:24:20,208
And I can't say that I feel compelled to
2584
02:24:20,208 --> 02:24:21,583
upgrade from my 3080.
2585
02:24:22,916 --> 02:24:25,708
I don't see a reason to upgrade.
2586
02:24:27,166 --> 02:24:28,541
Don't you want that multi frame
2587
02:24:28,541 --> 02:24:30,375
generation with more,
2588
02:24:30,625 --> 02:24:32,291
more generated frames
2589
02:24:32,291 --> 02:24:34,791
with like more artifacting?
2590
02:24:35,041 --> 02:24:37,833
Oh, my God, I've seen the videos of multi
2591
02:24:37,833 --> 02:24:39,291
frame generation and man.
2592
02:24:40,625 --> 02:24:41,625
It's not the same thing.
2593
02:24:41,833 --> 02:24:43,958
So remember back in the day when you
2594
02:24:43,958 --> 02:24:45,458
could like hook up to GPUs,
2595
02:24:45,458 --> 02:24:46,666
but you had microstutter.
2596
02:24:47,583 --> 02:24:49,750
Yeah, it's it gives off.
2597
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:51,666
Mike, it's not microstuttering, but it
2598
02:24:51,666 --> 02:24:54,791
gives off microstuttering vibes.
2599
02:24:55,208 --> 02:24:58,083
And it is miserable looking
2600
02:24:58,083 --> 02:25:00,041
like when you have a high frame,
2601
02:25:00,041 --> 02:25:01,416
it's probably less noticeable.
2602
02:25:02,291 --> 02:25:04,750
But like in video saying you can go from
2603
02:25:04,750 --> 02:25:07,791
like 20 FPS to like 120 FPS
2604
02:25:08,875 --> 02:25:10,041
is ridiculous.
2605
02:25:11,125 --> 02:25:11,750
And it's even more
2606
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:14,416
like a straight up a lie.
2607
02:25:14,416 --> 02:25:15,083
Yes, you're right.
2608
02:25:15,083 --> 02:25:16,333
You are. It's straight up a lie.
2609
02:25:17,166 --> 02:25:20,250
And like it like last the last iteration
2610
02:25:20,250 --> 02:25:22,000
of this, the single frame generation,
2611
02:25:22,958 --> 02:25:25,666
it didn't improve latency and it has the
2612
02:25:25,666 --> 02:25:26,666
same problem it does now.
2613
02:25:27,125 --> 02:25:28,000
Not to mention
2614
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:29,666
there's even more overhead,
2615
02:25:29,666 --> 02:25:30,958
which means your base
2616
02:25:30,958 --> 02:25:32,458
frame rate might be even lower.
2617
02:25:33,541 --> 02:25:35,125
And that's the thing.
2618
02:25:35,625 --> 02:25:36,666
That's the thing that I
2619
02:25:36,666 --> 02:25:38,791
noticed because I was like watching.
2620
02:25:39,416 --> 02:25:40,916
I don't know if it was the I
2621
02:25:40,916 --> 02:25:41,583
don't know which one it was,
2622
02:25:41,583 --> 02:25:42,375
but I was watching one of
2623
02:25:42,375 --> 02:25:43,333
them and they were talking about
2624
02:25:43,333 --> 02:25:45,166
the multi frame generation stuff.
2625
02:25:46,041 --> 02:25:48,166
And and I remember when we
2626
02:25:48,166 --> 02:25:49,458
were talking about it last time,
2627
02:25:49,916 --> 02:25:51,583
I was like, I just don't see how this is
2628
02:25:51,583 --> 02:25:52,791
going to help make the
2629
02:25:52,791 --> 02:25:53,750
game feel any better.
2630
02:25:54,208 --> 02:25:55,833
Like if you have a low frame rate, the
2631
02:25:55,833 --> 02:25:57,166
input latency is going to be bad.
2632
02:25:57,625 --> 02:25:58,666
And then I was watching
2633
02:25:58,666 --> 02:26:00,541
that and they were like, yeah,
2634
02:26:00,541 --> 02:26:03,625
if you have a low frame rate, the input
2635
02:26:03,625 --> 02:26:05,125
latency is still terrible.
2636
02:26:05,250 --> 02:26:06,041
So what's the point?
2637
02:26:06,416 --> 02:26:07,625
Like the only thing is like
2638
02:26:07,625 --> 02:26:10,250
bringing it up to the refresh,
2639
02:26:10,250 --> 02:26:11,875
the native refresh rate of your monitor.
2640
02:26:12,125 --> 02:26:13,416
But it's like if you
2641
02:26:13,416 --> 02:26:16,416
have a monitor for gaming,
2642
02:26:16,500 --> 02:26:17,375
it's going to have free
2643
02:26:17,375 --> 02:26:19,666
sync or G-Sync or whatever.
2644
02:26:20,083 --> 02:26:22,208
And it's like, what's the point of adding
2645
02:26:22,208 --> 02:26:23,708
this multi frame generation stuff,
2646
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:28,000
especially when it knocks 10, 15, 20 FPS
2647
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:29,708
off of your gameplay,
2648
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:31,291
especially if you're playing it at a high
2649
02:26:31,291 --> 02:26:33,166
enough frame rate where we'll feel OK.
2650
02:26:33,750 --> 02:26:35,416
Like I just don't get it.
2651
02:26:36,041 --> 02:26:37,583
I mean, I mean, games
2652
02:26:37,583 --> 02:26:38,458
brought it up earlier.
2653
02:26:38,458 --> 02:26:39,875
You said that like if you're playing in
2654
02:26:39,875 --> 02:26:42,666
VR, this that could be like something.
2655
02:26:43,125 --> 02:26:44,666
Right. And I can see like in
2656
02:26:44,666 --> 02:26:46,125
something like that would be.
2657
02:26:46,125 --> 02:26:49,208
But if your input is not matching it well
2658
02:26:49,208 --> 02:26:50,583
enough, it could be worse.
2659
02:26:50,791 --> 02:26:52,625
It might actually make it worse. Yeah.
2660
02:26:53,541 --> 02:26:55,291
Yeah. So I'm skeptical
2661
02:26:55,291 --> 02:26:56,750
of people that have like
2662
02:26:57,291 --> 02:27:00,125
hate videos on stuff like this because I
2663
02:27:00,125 --> 02:27:00,916
think it's a middle ground.
2664
02:27:00,958 --> 02:27:02,666
I think there's like some pluses and then
2665
02:27:02,666 --> 02:27:03,625
there's a lot of negatives.
2666
02:27:03,708 --> 02:27:07,291
But I I'm not going to buy it.
2667
02:27:07,291 --> 02:27:08,750
Like I'm not going to recommend anyone go
2668
02:27:08,750 --> 02:27:10,250
out and buy a 5000 series.
2669
02:27:11,041 --> 02:27:12,250
I don't. And for multiple
2670
02:27:12,250 --> 02:27:13,541
reasons, I don't think it's
2671
02:27:14,458 --> 02:27:16,791
it's a 30 to 20 to 30 percent increase,
2672
02:27:16,791 --> 02:27:18,500
depending on which card you're getting
2673
02:27:18,500 --> 02:27:20,958
over the previous generation, which.
2674
02:27:22,250 --> 02:27:22,916
Surprise, surprise.
2675
02:27:23,208 --> 02:27:24,583
All they did was just up the cores.
2676
02:27:25,958 --> 02:27:26,958
Buy that much, essentially.
2677
02:27:27,541 --> 02:27:28,833
There's no new tech.
2678
02:27:29,166 --> 02:27:31,375
No, they they're just it's a it's a money
2679
02:27:31,375 --> 02:27:33,250
play to release something which.
2680
02:27:34,875 --> 02:27:35,958
I don't know.
2681
02:27:36,166 --> 02:27:38,416
I there those cores have got to be
2682
02:27:38,416 --> 02:27:40,041
cheaper to produce now, so they're just
2683
02:27:40,791 --> 02:27:42,208
it all just seems fishy
2684
02:27:42,208 --> 02:27:42,958
to me and I don't like it.
2685
02:27:42,958 --> 02:27:44,541
And I really, really want a different
2686
02:27:44,541 --> 02:27:45,791
company to come in and
2687
02:27:45,791 --> 02:27:47,833
start doing more video cards.
2688
02:27:48,208 --> 02:27:50,625
That's not Intel. Well, here's the deal.
2689
02:27:51,041 --> 02:27:52,666
Like I'm going to jump ahead to the
2690
02:27:52,666 --> 02:27:54,666
DeepSeek story, because I think it ties
2691
02:27:54,666 --> 02:27:56,416
in with a little bit.
2692
02:27:57,000 --> 02:27:59,958
So DeepSeek, right?
2693
02:28:00,500 --> 02:28:04,208
Like it's it is like like I don't know
2694
02:28:04,208 --> 02:28:06,500
how exactly much more performant it is,
2695
02:28:06,500 --> 02:28:09,000
but it is better in almost every way
2696
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:10,666
compared to chat GPT, right?
2697
02:28:10,916 --> 02:28:13,666
Like it has better reasoning and it works
2698
02:28:13,666 --> 02:28:15,166
on lower end systems
2699
02:28:15,833 --> 02:28:18,083
and it works better, right, than than
2700
02:28:18,083 --> 02:28:20,166
something else like Lama or whatever.
2701
02:28:20,541 --> 02:28:21,125
And it's open source.
2702
02:28:21,791 --> 02:28:22,958
And it's open source.
2703
02:28:23,208 --> 02:28:25,458
And the reason I don't know if you
2704
02:28:25,458 --> 02:28:27,458
mentioned it in here, James,
2705
02:28:27,458 --> 02:28:28,375
but the reason that it
2706
02:28:28,375 --> 02:28:30,291
is working so much better,
2707
02:28:31,041 --> 02:28:34,041
it's it works on lower end cards is
2708
02:28:34,041 --> 02:28:35,708
because they're not using CUDA.
2709
02:28:37,708 --> 02:28:38,583
There was you think it's
2710
02:28:38,583 --> 02:28:40,958
the CUDA core tech that's
2711
02:28:41,375 --> 02:28:44,625
CUDA is artificially holding back AI.
2712
02:28:46,416 --> 02:28:47,416
Oh, artificially.
2713
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:50,166
So on on on consumer
2714
02:28:50,166 --> 02:28:51,916
hardware, it absolutely is.
2715
02:28:51,916 --> 02:28:53,000
That's what that's my take
2716
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:54,416
from it, from what I've seen.
2717
02:28:54,416 --> 02:28:56,958
Well, we do know that they yeah, we do
2718
02:28:56,958 --> 02:28:57,833
know that they really
2719
02:28:57,833 --> 02:28:58,958
protect their AI tech
2720
02:28:58,958 --> 02:28:59,625
because that's how they
2721
02:28:59,625 --> 02:29:01,375
become how big they are.
2722
02:29:01,375 --> 02:29:02,000
Like they're massive.
2723
02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:03,083
I don't think people realize how big
2724
02:29:03,083 --> 02:29:05,458
Nvidia is now like now there.
2725
02:29:05,666 --> 02:29:07,500
And there's almost no reason for them to
2726
02:29:07,500 --> 02:29:08,375
be as big as they are
2727
02:29:08,375 --> 02:29:12,083
right now beyond this AI stuff.
2728
02:29:12,208 --> 02:29:15,125
Yeah, I I don't know.
2729
02:29:15,416 --> 02:29:16,916
Yeah, getting into the DeepSeek stuff.
2730
02:29:20,291 --> 02:29:21,166
Yes, yeah.
2731
02:29:21,458 --> 02:29:24,333
So DeepSeek, our one destroys the USA AI
2732
02:29:24,333 --> 02:29:25,541
tech market, essentially.
2733
02:29:27,250 --> 02:29:28,291
It wrecked.
2734
02:29:28,916 --> 02:29:30,541
I've heard numbers of up to almost a
2735
02:29:30,541 --> 02:29:31,583
trillion being knocked
2736
02:29:31,583 --> 02:29:32,583
off of a lot of tech,
2737
02:29:32,791 --> 02:29:33,625
but I don't know.
2738
02:29:33,916 --> 02:29:36,458
I'm a little skeptical on that.
2739
02:29:36,458 --> 02:29:37,291
It's been confirmed.
2740
02:29:37,791 --> 02:29:40,500
Nvidia supposedly lost six hundred
2741
02:29:40,500 --> 02:29:44,625
billion dollars alone of valuation.
2742
02:29:44,625 --> 02:29:44,875
Couldn't have
2743
02:29:44,875 --> 02:29:46,333
happened to a nicer industry.
2744
02:29:48,375 --> 02:29:49,041
Well, that's the thing.
2745
02:29:49,083 --> 02:29:50,041
At the end of the day, it
2746
02:29:50,041 --> 02:29:54,958
was a Chinese open sourced LLM.
2747
02:29:55,500 --> 02:29:58,875
And the and here's open AI guy.
2748
02:29:59,250 --> 02:30:00,666
They're like, this is
2749
02:30:00,666 --> 02:30:01,541
this is the best part.
2750
02:30:02,083 --> 02:30:04,750
Open AI, Sam comes down and says, well,
2751
02:30:04,750 --> 02:30:05,916
they stole it because they
2752
02:30:05,916 --> 02:30:08,458
trained it off of our our models.
2753
02:30:08,875 --> 02:30:09,916
And I'm like, that's OK.
2754
02:30:10,291 --> 02:30:11,583
OK, OK, bitch.
2755
02:30:11,583 --> 02:30:13,666
Like, where did you train your data from?
2756
02:30:14,666 --> 02:30:16,291
Oh, everyone else is complaining that
2757
02:30:16,291 --> 02:30:17,125
you're stealing their
2758
02:30:17,125 --> 02:30:18,375
stuff to train off of.
2759
02:30:18,416 --> 02:30:19,541
Did you pay for that? No.
2760
02:30:20,291 --> 02:30:24,666
So you can set down first off because
2761
02:30:26,416 --> 02:30:30,125
you didn't you didn't get your data in a
2762
02:30:30,125 --> 02:30:31,916
more like an ethical
2763
02:30:31,916 --> 02:30:32,958
way if you want to say.
2764
02:30:33,375 --> 02:30:35,000
So I don't know. And this is open source.
2765
02:30:35,250 --> 02:30:38,958
So yeah, you know, when I wild, you know,
2766
02:30:38,958 --> 02:30:40,125
I heard about the AI
2767
02:30:40,125 --> 02:30:41,125
taking over the future.
2768
02:30:41,125 --> 02:30:42,791
I kind of imagine they sort of like
2769
02:30:42,791 --> 02:30:45,250
Matrix style future where
2770
02:30:45,250 --> 02:30:47,083
like we go on all our war against
2771
02:30:47,291 --> 02:30:49,333
the machines or, you know, the
2772
02:30:49,333 --> 02:30:50,458
Terminator, you know, SkyNet.
2773
02:30:51,666 --> 02:30:54,416
Not like this. Not like this.
2774
02:30:56,208 --> 02:30:59,416
I mean, that's a good like that.
2775
02:30:59,666 --> 02:31:01,166
That is a good I do like that, too.
2776
02:31:01,625 --> 02:31:02,583
I don't think we're ever going to get
2777
02:31:02,583 --> 02:31:04,083
there because we're going to destroy
2778
02:31:04,083 --> 02:31:05,625
things before we get there.
2779
02:31:05,625 --> 02:31:07,458
But ourselves, we don't have to worry
2780
02:31:07,458 --> 02:31:08,625
about robots doing that.
2781
02:31:08,833 --> 02:31:09,791
They might save us.
2782
02:31:11,416 --> 02:31:13,166
A little cynical on that.
2783
02:31:13,291 --> 02:31:16,875
But the funny thing is, is that you can
2784
02:31:16,875 --> 02:31:19,958
like I read about people had about a
2785
02:31:19,958 --> 02:31:20,916
dozen around a dozen,
2786
02:31:20,916 --> 02:31:22,875
maybe a little bit more Mac pros.
2787
02:31:24,875 --> 02:31:25,458
And you could probably
2788
02:31:25,458 --> 02:31:26,708
even do this on the Mac.
2789
02:31:26,708 --> 02:31:27,958
The Mac pros are M2s.
2790
02:31:27,958 --> 02:31:29,833
You could probably get away with just
2791
02:31:29,833 --> 02:31:31,666
getting Mac minis and
2792
02:31:31,666 --> 02:31:33,083
running the 68 gigabyte,
2793
02:31:33,875 --> 02:31:36,291
which is the law. It's around 68, I
2794
02:31:36,291 --> 02:31:37,208
believe it could be larger.
2795
02:31:37,208 --> 02:31:38,083
But that's what I heard,
2796
02:31:38,666 --> 02:31:40,000
which is their large model.
2797
02:31:41,416 --> 02:31:45,416
Deep seek R1 and it runs it great.
2798
02:31:46,375 --> 02:31:49,000
And just in comparison, that is like
2799
02:31:49,000 --> 02:31:50,916
thousands of dollars compared to millions
2800
02:31:50,916 --> 02:31:51,833
of dollars of hardware
2801
02:31:52,041 --> 02:31:54,166
that it takes to run the one.
2802
02:31:55,166 --> 02:31:57,750
And this essential and that's the large
2803
02:31:57,750 --> 02:31:59,708
you can I'm seeing people be
2804
02:31:59,708 --> 02:32:01,083
able to get some of the small
2805
02:32:01,291 --> 02:32:03,416
LLMs to run on like
2806
02:32:03,416 --> 02:32:05,291
Raspberry Pi's almost with.
2807
02:32:05,791 --> 02:32:06,625
I'm thinking they're kind of
2808
02:32:06,625 --> 02:32:08,250
doing some little tweaking.
2809
02:32:08,291 --> 02:32:09,625
I haven't seen some of the videos yet,
2810
02:32:09,625 --> 02:32:10,333
but I've just I've seen
2811
02:32:10,333 --> 02:32:11,958
little clips here and there.
2812
02:32:12,375 --> 02:32:16,166
But this is big deal, I think, because it
2813
02:32:16,166 --> 02:32:17,291
democratizes, which I
2814
02:32:17,291 --> 02:32:18,125
think is a good thing.
2815
02:32:18,125 --> 02:32:21,000
It democratizes AI and makes it and it's
2816
02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:22,083
open source, which is good.
2817
02:32:22,583 --> 02:32:25,000
It makes it more accessible to
2818
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:29,208
individuals and to everyone to do their
2819
02:32:29,208 --> 02:32:30,916
own AI if they want or to
2820
02:32:30,916 --> 02:32:32,000
set up their own systems
2821
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:33,375
or to even create their own companies
2822
02:32:33,375 --> 02:32:35,250
with AI, as opposed to
2823
02:32:35,250 --> 02:32:36,375
having two companies,
2824
02:32:36,541 --> 02:32:39,541
Nvidia and open AI controlling it.
2825
02:32:40,458 --> 02:32:42,000
That's my takeaway on this.
2826
02:32:42,625 --> 02:32:43,583
Like, I think it's a good thing.
2827
02:32:43,916 --> 02:32:44,958
I agree. I think that
2828
02:32:44,958 --> 02:32:46,125
this is a good thing.
2829
02:32:47,375 --> 02:32:49,833
I think like being able to be able to run
2830
02:32:49,833 --> 02:32:54,291
a model like this on something like a
2831
02:32:54,291 --> 02:32:56,541
home lab and being able to have it
2832
02:32:56,625 --> 02:32:59,291
jailbroken and running locally and it's
2833
02:32:59,291 --> 02:33:01,541
not sending any data over the Internet.
2834
02:33:01,791 --> 02:33:03,875
And you be self sufficient
2835
02:33:03,875 --> 02:33:06,875
with an AI model that you use.
2836
02:33:07,125 --> 02:33:08,208
You connect it to home assistant.
2837
02:33:08,791 --> 02:33:10,083
You can then be like, OK,
2838
02:33:10,083 --> 02:33:11,875
computer, do this, do that.
2839
02:33:12,166 --> 02:33:13,625
Right. That's the kind of
2840
02:33:13,625 --> 02:33:15,333
thing that I've wanted for a while.
2841
02:33:16,125 --> 02:33:19,041
And like I've been using I have.
2842
02:33:19,333 --> 02:33:20,666
Oh, man, that sounds sick.
2843
02:33:21,625 --> 02:33:22,750
I have these little things.
2844
02:33:22,750 --> 02:33:23,500
This is I can't
2845
02:33:23,500 --> 02:33:24,125
remember what this is called.
2846
02:33:25,000 --> 02:33:26,041
Is that like a thing?
2847
02:33:26,375 --> 02:33:28,916
I've it's a M5 Echo
2848
02:33:28,916 --> 02:33:31,750
Atom and it's hard to see.
2849
02:33:33,583 --> 02:33:35,916
So it's basically it's literally just a
2850
02:33:35,916 --> 02:33:38,541
microphone that you plug in and it
2851
02:33:38,541 --> 02:33:41,083
connects to Wi-Fi and it's running an
2852
02:33:41,083 --> 02:33:43,750
empty 32 or not empty 32.
2853
02:33:43,750 --> 02:33:46,250
One of one of those like small ESP 32.
2854
02:33:46,250 --> 02:33:46,833
That's what it is.
2855
02:33:47,291 --> 02:33:48,083
And so it's a it's a
2856
02:33:48,083 --> 02:33:49,958
small risk five thing.
2857
02:33:50,250 --> 02:33:51,458
You can put them in every room in your
2858
02:33:51,458 --> 02:33:53,375
house and then you can connect home
2859
02:33:53,375 --> 02:33:56,791
assistant to an LLM and it will convert
2860
02:33:56,791 --> 02:33:59,125
these convert whatever you're saying into
2861
02:33:59,125 --> 02:34:00,708
actual text that home
2862
02:34:00,708 --> 02:34:01,625
assistant will then run.
2863
02:34:02,041 --> 02:34:03,208
And I have these everywhere.
2864
02:34:03,458 --> 02:34:05,666
But the problem is I don't have hardware
2865
02:34:05,666 --> 02:34:07,208
in my home lab that can
2866
02:34:07,208 --> 02:34:09,083
actually run an LLM efficiently.
2867
02:34:09,958 --> 02:34:12,208
But now that this is out and we can do
2868
02:34:12,208 --> 02:34:14,000
this kind of stuff, I'm actually really
2869
02:34:14,000 --> 02:34:15,166
excited about getting
2870
02:34:15,166 --> 02:34:16,041
going back to these.
2871
02:34:16,416 --> 02:34:18,166
I bought like a like I don't
2872
02:34:18,166 --> 02:34:19,333
know, five or six of these.
2873
02:34:19,875 --> 02:34:22,541
I wanted them in every room and I did.
2874
02:34:22,541 --> 02:34:23,625
I was going to make a video about it, but
2875
02:34:23,625 --> 02:34:24,916
I didn't because it
2876
02:34:24,916 --> 02:34:26,166
just wasn't fast enough.
2877
02:34:27,208 --> 02:34:29,791
It would take like literally a minute to
2878
02:34:29,791 --> 02:34:32,083
process what I said and then turn into a
2879
02:34:32,083 --> 02:34:34,375
sneak peek and then gardeners new video.
2880
02:34:35,666 --> 02:34:36,708
No, dude, I'm so.
2881
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:39,875
Yeah, this seems right up your alley like
2882
02:34:39,875 --> 02:34:42,041
it's all self-contained because you like
2883
02:34:42,041 --> 02:34:43,541
to do all your stuff self-contained,
2884
02:34:43,541 --> 02:34:45,333
which I'm starting to move towards that a
2885
02:34:45,333 --> 02:34:46,666
little bit more too because I'm as I'm
2886
02:34:46,666 --> 02:34:50,208
getting tired of services going up in
2887
02:34:50,208 --> 02:34:52,875
price or changing from a business side.
2888
02:34:53,250 --> 02:34:54,375
It's just getting kind of
2889
02:34:54,375 --> 02:34:55,833
frustrating on my for me.
2890
02:34:56,208 --> 02:34:59,208
And so my thing is like I want
2891
02:34:59,208 --> 02:35:01,041
stability and predictability.
2892
02:35:01,875 --> 02:35:04,750
And it seems like the post-capitalist
2893
02:35:04,750 --> 02:35:06,875
world that we're living in is all about
2894
02:35:06,875 --> 02:35:08,750
instability and unpredictability.
2895
02:35:08,750 --> 02:35:10,541
And I don't want that in my life.
2896
02:35:10,958 --> 02:35:12,541
Like it's exactly
2897
02:35:12,541 --> 02:35:14,000
people want predictability.
2898
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:14,958
And I think that's why they're a little
2899
02:35:14,958 --> 02:35:17,041
upset about a lot of things and why I
2900
02:35:17,041 --> 02:35:18,416
think we have trends going on the
2901
02:35:18,416 --> 02:35:19,708
politics that are the way they are.
2902
02:35:20,250 --> 02:35:21,333
They want stability.
2903
02:35:21,333 --> 02:35:24,458
And so at least in the tech world, we get
2904
02:35:24,458 --> 02:35:26,833
it's very destabilizing for a lot of
2905
02:35:26,833 --> 02:35:28,458
these tech companies like and the tech
2906
02:35:28,458 --> 02:35:29,916
bubble is very close to
2907
02:35:29,916 --> 02:35:31,166
popping because of this.
2908
02:35:31,625 --> 02:35:36,291
We'll see because I think the open AI Sam
2909
02:35:36,291 --> 02:35:39,833
is like dude, just go the way he's
2910
02:35:39,833 --> 02:35:41,458
flopped from 10 like from
2911
02:35:41,458 --> 02:35:43,250
four years ago is crazy.
2912
02:35:44,291 --> 02:35:45,208
And it's making me
2913
02:35:45,208 --> 02:35:46,541
more happy to see this.
2914
02:35:46,541 --> 02:35:48,375
I am not usually one to be happy about
2915
02:35:48,375 --> 02:35:49,666
things getting destroyed.
2916
02:35:50,541 --> 02:35:54,166
But oh, honey, he's in a flop era.
2917
02:35:55,500 --> 02:35:56,041
Yeah, right.
2918
02:35:56,333 --> 02:35:58,625
Oh, God, you keep calling him.
2919
02:35:58,666 --> 02:36:00,458
You keep calling him open AI, Sam.
2920
02:36:01,083 --> 02:36:01,666
Right. Yeah.
2921
02:36:01,958 --> 02:36:04,500
But like I call him Microsoft Sam just
2922
02:36:04,500 --> 02:36:05,500
because of that robot
2923
02:36:05,500 --> 02:36:07,041
voice from the right.
2924
02:36:07,583 --> 02:36:09,666
Hello. My name is Microsoft Sam.
2925
02:36:10,083 --> 02:36:10,791
Like that.
2926
02:36:10,791 --> 02:36:11,916
And I am the computer's default.
2927
02:36:11,958 --> 02:36:13,708
God, that was so good.
2928
02:36:14,083 --> 02:36:16,125
What the hell was that, Gardner?
2929
02:36:16,375 --> 02:36:17,916
Why aren't you like a voice actor?
2930
02:36:18,291 --> 02:36:22,083
Dude, I feel like I can do it.
2931
02:36:22,083 --> 02:36:22,208
Damn.
2932
02:36:22,208 --> 02:36:22,500
It's me.
2933
02:36:22,500 --> 02:36:25,750
Which I think I've mentioned of my crappy
2934
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:27,541
little server closet with
2935
02:36:27,541 --> 02:36:29,500
my home home lab services.
2936
02:36:29,708 --> 02:36:30,666
But have you guys seen it yet?
2937
02:36:31,583 --> 02:36:33,083
Yeah, I can put some I can post a picture
2938
02:36:33,083 --> 02:36:35,166
on the disk or this is a difference from
2939
02:36:35,166 --> 02:36:36,625
a video I made a while ago.
2940
02:36:36,958 --> 02:36:38,083
This is what it looks like.
2941
02:36:38,708 --> 02:36:39,166
Oh, my gosh.
2942
02:36:39,166 --> 02:36:40,041
Yeah, that's great.
2943
02:36:40,708 --> 02:36:41,875
It's awesome.
2944
02:36:42,166 --> 02:36:43,250
Find a picture of my home
2945
02:36:43,250 --> 02:36:44,500
lab because it's pretty.
2946
02:36:44,583 --> 02:36:46,791
Yes, I've got a I've got a rack my
2947
02:36:46,791 --> 02:36:49,833
server, a rack my switch and a rack.
2948
02:36:50,750 --> 02:36:51,583
And I got a monitor
2949
02:36:51,583 --> 02:36:52,583
keyboard on top of the switch.
2950
02:36:53,208 --> 02:36:55,083
And all of this is on top of a file and a
2951
02:36:55,083 --> 02:36:56,166
small filing cabinet.
2952
02:36:57,833 --> 02:37:00,583
That like really probably shouldn't be on
2953
02:37:00,583 --> 02:37:01,666
top of this filing cabinet
2954
02:37:02,333 --> 02:37:03,541
because like a bunch of us just like
2955
02:37:03,541 --> 02:37:04,541
hanging off the edge.
2956
02:37:06,708 --> 02:37:08,666
And then I think this is a video where I
2957
02:37:08,666 --> 02:37:09,708
was installing a new router.
2958
02:37:09,708 --> 02:37:12,666
So the router isn't pictured here yet.
2959
02:37:14,291 --> 02:37:16,916
But yeah, well, I used to
2960
02:37:16,916 --> 02:37:17,833
have some setups like that.
2961
02:37:18,458 --> 02:37:19,958
And I could definitely see that's coming
2962
02:37:19,958 --> 02:37:22,083
into my future soon.
2963
02:37:23,250 --> 02:37:25,166
I've heard about how you can build your
2964
02:37:25,166 --> 02:37:26,916
own IKEA server for sure.
2965
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:29,875
Using some IKEA furniture
2966
02:37:29,875 --> 02:37:31,708
and like the mother's stuff.
2967
02:37:32,541 --> 02:37:32,791
I did.
2968
02:37:33,041 --> 02:37:34,666
So was IKEA?
2969
02:37:34,666 --> 02:37:36,333
No, Amazon has these rolling racks.
2970
02:37:36,958 --> 02:37:38,916
They're not like server racks, but
2971
02:37:38,916 --> 02:37:40,250
they're racks that you can post.
2972
02:37:40,666 --> 02:37:42,583
I might start doing that.
2973
02:37:42,833 --> 02:37:43,291
Oh, I see.
2974
02:37:43,500 --> 02:37:46,250
I see Gardner posted a little video.
2975
02:37:46,500 --> 02:37:47,333
Oh, shit.
2976
02:37:47,375 --> 02:37:49,791
That's from that's from two years ago.
2977
02:37:50,541 --> 02:37:53,208
And since then, I've added two more
2978
02:37:53,208 --> 02:37:55,875
shelves with multiple like mini PCs.
2979
02:37:56,125 --> 02:37:58,541
I've added a Raspberry Pi, like a 3D
2980
02:37:58,541 --> 02:38:00,250
printed Raspberry Pi cluster.
2981
02:38:01,833 --> 02:38:04,458
And I've added a 10 gig network switch.
2982
02:38:05,000 --> 02:38:06,625
Is that a Mac Mini on top?
2983
02:38:07,583 --> 02:38:08,541
Oh, wait, no, those two years ago.
2984
02:38:08,541 --> 02:38:09,666
Never mind. Those two years ago.
2985
02:38:09,666 --> 02:38:10,916
Never mind. I didn't.
2986
02:38:10,916 --> 02:38:12,833
Yeah, no, it's the Mac Mini back then.
2987
02:38:12,833 --> 02:38:13,875
But that's definitely not that.
2988
02:38:13,875 --> 02:38:14,541
Not nothing.
2989
02:38:14,875 --> 02:38:15,708
Not the good Mac Mini
2990
02:38:15,708 --> 02:38:16,625
that we're thinking of.
2991
02:38:17,416 --> 02:38:18,708
No, it's a Mini's forum.
2992
02:38:18,708 --> 02:38:20,583
I'm using that as a PF sense router.
2993
02:38:22,500 --> 02:38:23,750
I've always wanted to do that.
2994
02:38:24,625 --> 02:38:26,958
And I so I went to I went to Reddit.
2995
02:38:28,083 --> 02:38:30,166
I went to like the home lab server and
2996
02:38:30,166 --> 02:38:31,583
they told me to use Vio West.
2997
02:38:31,750 --> 02:38:33,375
I managed to get one up and running, but
2998
02:38:33,375 --> 02:38:35,041
I didn't have the APs.
2999
02:38:35,041 --> 02:38:36,000
And I didn't want to spend like five
3000
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:38,000
hundred dollars on unify AP.
3001
02:38:38,791 --> 02:38:41,750
So I've never heard of that.
3002
02:38:42,208 --> 02:38:44,750
It's a I think it was
3003
02:38:44,750 --> 02:38:46,750
based on, but it's a V.
3004
02:38:46,916 --> 02:38:49,125
Why OS is I forget which operates.
3005
02:38:49,291 --> 02:38:50,291
It's based on Linux.
3006
02:38:50,291 --> 02:38:52,750
It's not based on free BSD, which I think
3007
02:38:52,750 --> 02:38:55,166
is what is what a PF sense
3008
02:38:55,166 --> 02:38:56,708
and open sense are based on.
3009
02:38:56,708 --> 02:38:57,166
If I'm mistaken.
3010
02:38:58,416 --> 02:39:00,625
PF sense is B.
3011
02:39:00,625 --> 02:39:01,583
F. B. F. D.
3012
02:39:01,583 --> 02:39:03,208
But open sense, I believe, is Linux.
3013
02:39:05,250 --> 02:39:06,625
Oh, OK.
3014
02:39:06,625 --> 02:39:07,583
I could be wrong about
3015
02:39:07,583 --> 02:39:08,791
that, but I'm pretty sure.
3016
02:39:10,125 --> 02:39:11,958
But yeah, Vio looks kind of cool.
3017
02:39:12,750 --> 02:39:14,083
Yeah, it was entirely command line.
3018
02:39:14,375 --> 02:39:16,666
Then there is no like easy to use web
3019
02:39:16,666 --> 02:39:18,416
interface unless you install some
3020
02:39:18,416 --> 02:39:20,583
sort of plug in and I couldn't figure
3021
02:39:20,583 --> 02:39:22,250
that out at the time
3022
02:39:23,166 --> 02:39:23,916
because it was like a
3023
02:39:23,916 --> 02:39:24,500
couple of years ago.
3024
02:39:24,583 --> 02:39:26,708
So like at a lot less experience.
3025
02:39:27,708 --> 02:39:28,291
I'm going to try it
3026
02:39:28,291 --> 02:39:30,833
again, but like, yeah,
3027
02:39:31,416 --> 02:39:32,500
I still don't want to spend five hundred
3028
02:39:32,500 --> 02:39:34,916
dollars on unify Wi-Fi access points.
3029
02:39:37,875 --> 02:39:39,208
I'm going to Mac Mini.
3030
02:39:39,583 --> 02:39:40,125
I'm probably going to get
3031
02:39:40,125 --> 02:39:41,666
Mac Mini to start mine out,
3032
02:39:42,416 --> 02:39:44,708
but I'll I'll take the shell off and put
3033
02:39:44,708 --> 02:39:46,416
it up into like a little weird
3034
02:39:46,916 --> 02:39:48,791
rack just so that it can look cool.
3035
02:39:49,333 --> 02:39:50,708
No, I don't know.
3036
02:39:51,083 --> 02:39:51,916
But like, I think I'm going
3037
02:39:51,916 --> 02:39:53,041
to start out with Mac Mini. Oh.
3038
02:39:54,041 --> 02:39:56,458
So my fucking video broadcast like
3039
02:39:56,458 --> 02:39:58,541
crashed or some bullshit like that.
3040
02:39:59,416 --> 02:40:00,541
Yeah, you want to know why you were
3041
02:40:00,541 --> 02:40:01,708
talking shit about Nvidia.
3042
02:40:04,041 --> 02:40:06,458
Fuck you, Adam Jensen, and your stupid
3043
02:40:06,458 --> 02:40:07,750
fucking leather coat.
3044
02:40:08,291 --> 02:40:09,625
Oh, damn, Jensen.
3045
02:40:11,416 --> 02:40:11,666
Sorry.
3046
02:40:12,791 --> 02:40:13,458
Fuck.
3047
02:40:14,416 --> 02:40:15,375
What is his name?
3048
02:40:15,958 --> 02:40:16,541
That's Hwang.
3049
02:40:17,291 --> 02:40:18,041
Jensen Hwang.
3050
02:40:18,958 --> 02:40:19,833
I'm thinking of Deus Ex.
3051
02:40:20,500 --> 02:40:20,708
Yes.
3052
02:40:21,083 --> 02:40:22,416
Oh, my.
3053
02:40:22,666 --> 02:40:26,125
My name is Adam Jensen.
3054
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:27,791
I didn't ask for this.
3055
02:40:27,958 --> 02:40:28,375
I'm also Batman.
3056
02:40:29,666 --> 02:40:30,750
Oh, my gosh.
3057
02:40:31,958 --> 02:40:33,666
Oh, you think that this is your own.
3058
02:40:34,333 --> 02:40:36,166
I mean, I adopted it.
3059
02:40:36,583 --> 02:40:38,291
I was born in it.
3060
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:39,958
No big buy it.
3061
02:40:39,958 --> 02:40:40,666
Oh, my gosh.
3062
02:40:40,875 --> 02:40:41,666
I hadn't seen the
3063
02:40:41,666 --> 02:40:42,833
light until I was a man.
3064
02:40:42,833 --> 02:40:44,041
And by then it was blinding.
3065
02:40:47,083 --> 02:40:47,250
Damn.
3066
02:40:47,541 --> 02:40:47,791
Yeah.
3067
02:40:48,416 --> 02:40:49,416
Let's just close out the
3068
02:40:49,416 --> 02:40:50,041
episode by doing voices.
3069
02:40:52,333 --> 02:40:54,583
Are we going to finish up the last year?
3070
02:40:55,041 --> 02:40:55,458
We we have.
3071
02:40:55,458 --> 02:40:56,375
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3072
02:40:56,375 --> 02:40:57,291
We do have two more.
3073
02:40:57,958 --> 02:40:59,708
We have layoffs.
3074
02:41:00,833 --> 02:41:01,083
Yes.
3075
02:41:01,583 --> 02:41:03,791
So multiverses going offline, which will
3076
02:41:03,791 --> 02:41:04,416
probably lead to a
3077
02:41:04,416 --> 02:41:05,625
layout from that studio.
3078
02:41:05,625 --> 02:41:06,125
Let's be honest,
3079
02:41:06,125 --> 02:41:08,416
because that's what happens.
3080
02:41:08,958 --> 02:41:09,541
It's unfortunate.
3081
02:41:10,791 --> 02:41:11,000
So.
3082
02:41:12,416 --> 02:41:12,750
Yeah.
3083
02:41:15,041 --> 02:41:16,666
What is what layoffs are happening
3084
02:41:16,666 --> 02:41:19,041
because there's always layoffs happening.
3085
02:41:19,083 --> 02:41:23,708
But Ubisoft is blaming a lot of stuff on
3086
02:41:23,708 --> 02:41:26,375
like I think on just
3087
02:41:26,375 --> 02:41:28,916
people not buying their games.
3088
02:41:28,916 --> 02:41:31,416
They love pushing that off onto others,
3089
02:41:31,416 --> 02:41:32,916
not having any ownership.
3090
02:41:33,250 --> 02:41:36,083
But I mean, yeah, people do have to buy
3091
02:41:36,083 --> 02:41:37,041
their games to make a profit.
3092
02:41:37,583 --> 02:41:38,125
So I guess.
3093
02:41:38,125 --> 02:41:39,375
Yeah, you're not wrong and
3094
02:41:39,375 --> 02:41:41,333
blame develop the consumers.
3095
02:41:41,708 --> 02:41:42,833
But like you probably shouldn't be
3096
02:41:42,833 --> 02:41:43,958
blaming them that hard.
3097
02:41:43,958 --> 02:41:45,583
You should probably be like, oh, why
3098
02:41:45,583 --> 02:41:47,166
don't they want to buy.
3099
02:41:47,625 --> 02:41:47,791
Yeah.
3100
02:41:48,083 --> 02:41:48,291
Why?
3101
02:41:49,750 --> 02:41:51,083
That's the question they're not asking.
3102
02:41:51,708 --> 02:41:52,708
Like that level.
3103
02:41:54,416 --> 02:41:58,500
Like Assassin's Creed Shadows is probably
3104
02:41:58,500 --> 02:41:59,958
their make or break.
3105
02:42:00,208 --> 02:42:02,333
If like if this game doesn't work out,
3106
02:42:03,083 --> 02:42:04,666
then what are they going to do?
3107
02:42:05,416 --> 02:42:07,541
And they postponed it again, I think it
3108
02:42:07,541 --> 02:42:08,458
was supposed to release it.
3109
02:42:08,458 --> 02:42:09,125
What isn't it supposed
3110
02:42:09,125 --> 02:42:10,166
to be releasing right now?
3111
02:42:10,166 --> 02:42:11,666
And I think they they
3112
02:42:11,666 --> 02:42:12,500
pushed it off again.
3113
02:42:12,500 --> 02:42:13,750
They pushed it off to next month.
3114
02:42:15,083 --> 02:42:17,666
Which I mean, I'm always down for them to
3115
02:42:17,666 --> 02:42:19,333
push for like to make sure
3116
02:42:19,333 --> 02:42:20,416
it's like in a good state.
3117
02:42:20,750 --> 02:42:22,958
But it definitely has given me a little
3118
02:42:22,958 --> 02:42:24,666
bit of apprehension on this.
3119
02:42:24,666 --> 02:42:25,708
Like what's going on?
3120
02:42:26,125 --> 02:42:27,541
Yeah, what is going on?
3121
02:42:28,750 --> 02:42:31,666
I mean, you guys, they're closing down.
3122
02:42:32,708 --> 02:42:33,625
Or it's right.
3123
02:42:33,833 --> 02:42:37,958
This was they worked on the division and
3124
02:42:37,958 --> 02:42:40,208
outlaws and what else?
3125
02:42:40,625 --> 02:42:42,250
Skull and bone, skull and bones of
3126
02:42:42,250 --> 02:42:43,541
fucking skull and bones.
3127
02:42:44,208 --> 02:42:44,750
God damn it.
3128
02:42:44,750 --> 02:42:47,000
I haven't even heard of skull and bones.
3129
02:42:47,833 --> 02:42:50,541
OK, so this was the game that Ubisoft was
3130
02:42:50,541 --> 02:42:51,958
claiming was the first
3131
02:42:51,958 --> 02:42:54,500
quadruple a video game.
3132
02:42:54,958 --> 02:42:55,250
Yep.
3133
02:42:55,458 --> 02:42:57,791
This is the live service game that's
3134
02:42:57,791 --> 02:42:58,166
basically just
3135
02:42:58,166 --> 02:42:59,625
Assassin's Creed Black Flag.
3136
02:43:00,458 --> 02:43:03,333
But like just the pirate portion and it's
3137
02:43:03,333 --> 02:43:04,916
multiplayer and it's worse.
3138
02:43:06,041 --> 02:43:07,750
Yeah, at least from what I saw.
3139
02:43:08,166 --> 02:43:08,666
I know a lot of people
3140
02:43:08,666 --> 02:43:09,958
were really excited for it.
3141
02:43:10,333 --> 02:43:11,125
Wasn't that the one where
3142
02:43:11,125 --> 02:43:12,750
like you would step on a ship?
3143
02:43:13,041 --> 02:43:13,958
It's kind of jogging my memory.
3144
02:43:13,958 --> 02:43:15,375
You'd step on a ship and like you would
3145
02:43:15,375 --> 02:43:18,833
desync based on like where you were.
3146
02:43:19,875 --> 02:43:20,291
I think you're
3147
02:43:20,291 --> 02:43:21,041
thinking of Sea of Thieves.
3148
02:43:21,750 --> 02:43:22,166
I'm not sure.
3149
02:43:22,875 --> 02:43:26,041
Yeah, so like you're only you're only
3150
02:43:26,041 --> 02:43:27,125
like because that game
3151
02:43:27,125 --> 02:43:27,916
you can actually go on foot
3152
02:43:27,916 --> 02:43:29,458
and like explore the ship on foot.
3153
02:43:29,458 --> 02:43:30,875
Whereas skull and
3154
02:43:30,875 --> 02:43:32,458
bones, you are the ship.
3155
02:43:33,291 --> 02:43:33,958
It's a vehicle.
3156
02:43:33,958 --> 02:43:34,791
It's a vehicle game.
3157
02:43:36,750 --> 02:43:40,583
So like yeah, yeah, it I mean, a lot of
3158
02:43:40,583 --> 02:43:41,250
stuff I saw about it
3159
02:43:41,250 --> 02:43:42,041
looked cool, but I just was
3160
02:43:42,041 --> 02:43:43,958
so skeptical about it.
3161
02:43:44,875 --> 02:43:46,250
From what I understand when you come out
3162
02:43:46,250 --> 02:43:47,125
the gate with marketing
3163
02:43:47,125 --> 02:43:48,791
like it's the first quadruple
3164
02:43:48,791 --> 02:43:49,250
a game.
3165
02:43:49,500 --> 02:43:51,375
I think that raises some red flags.
3166
02:43:51,875 --> 02:43:52,666
Yeah, that all the black
3167
02:43:52,666 --> 02:43:55,458
flags in this case black flags.
3168
02:43:55,458 --> 02:43:55,833
Yes.
3169
02:43:56,750 --> 02:43:58,875
So apparently from what I understand,
3170
02:43:59,583 --> 02:44:00,791
they couldn't cancel the
3171
02:44:00,791 --> 02:44:02,416
game despite it being in
3172
02:44:02,416 --> 02:44:04,500
like such development hell because the
3173
02:44:04,500 --> 02:44:05,625
government of Singapore,
3174
02:44:06,041 --> 02:44:07,000
we're getting political again.
3175
02:44:07,083 --> 02:44:09,250
The government of Singapore gave them
3176
02:44:09,250 --> 02:44:11,916
money to establish a Singaporean studio.
3177
02:44:12,791 --> 02:44:13,833
Ubisoft Singapore, I believe.
3178
02:44:15,125 --> 02:44:15,333
Yeah.
3179
02:44:15,750 --> 02:44:17,041
So literally they could not cancel the
3180
02:44:17,041 --> 02:44:17,875
game if they wanted to.
3181
02:44:18,166 --> 02:44:19,375
Despite, you know, the
3182
02:44:19,375 --> 02:44:22,291
game not doing not like there.
3183
02:44:22,541 --> 02:44:23,791
People weren't that excited.
3184
02:44:24,583 --> 02:44:24,916
I will say.
3185
02:44:26,916 --> 02:44:27,125
Yeah.
3186
02:44:28,375 --> 02:44:28,833
Welcome to.
3187
02:44:30,500 --> 02:44:32,208
Welcome to making deals and
3188
02:44:32,208 --> 02:44:33,375
you gotta go follow through.
3189
02:44:33,375 --> 02:44:34,291
I mean, you got free
3190
02:44:34,291 --> 02:44:35,041
money essentially, right?
3191
02:44:35,041 --> 02:44:37,125
So you can say that.
3192
02:44:37,125 --> 02:44:37,291
Yeah.
3193
02:44:37,541 --> 02:44:39,500
And also one more thing too is that
3194
02:44:39,500 --> 02:44:43,625
Ubisoft isn't alone.
3195
02:44:44,500 --> 02:44:46,000
So as you know, Dragon Age Inquisition
3196
02:44:46,000 --> 02:44:48,041
released and performed
3197
02:44:48,041 --> 02:44:49,958
about half of what was expected.
3198
02:44:51,666 --> 02:44:53,416
But it was but in obviously that
3199
02:44:53,416 --> 02:44:56,125
shareholder meeting wasn't just about how
3200
02:44:56,125 --> 02:44:59,125
Dragon Age the veil guard.
3201
02:44:59,125 --> 02:45:00,458
So I say Dragon Age Inquisition.
3202
02:45:02,083 --> 02:45:03,458
I meant Dragon Age the veil guard.
3203
02:45:04,916 --> 02:45:05,125
The veil guard.
3204
02:45:05,125 --> 02:45:05,375
Yeah.
3205
02:45:05,375 --> 02:45:06,041
The veil guard.
3206
02:45:07,041 --> 02:45:10,625
They wanted they it was projected to have
3207
02:45:10,625 --> 02:45:12,916
three million sales at late at least, but
3208
02:45:12,916 --> 02:45:14,875
only had one point five million players.
3209
02:45:15,791 --> 02:45:17,916
And it wasn't just that though.
3210
02:45:17,916 --> 02:45:19,750
There was also the newest EA FIFA.
3211
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:21,166
I mean FC game.
3212
02:45:21,625 --> 02:45:22,833
They can't use the term eat
3213
02:45:22,833 --> 02:45:25,000
FIFA anymore because like.
3214
02:45:26,041 --> 02:45:28,166
Well, they lost the
3215
02:45:28,166 --> 02:45:30,000
like they lost the deal.
3216
02:45:30,333 --> 02:45:31,000
I don't know what happened.
3217
02:45:31,041 --> 02:45:32,916
But they probably didn't want to spend
3218
02:45:32,916 --> 02:45:35,208
sure they were asking for more like the
3219
02:45:35,208 --> 02:45:38,291
commit like the whole the FIFA committee.
3220
02:45:38,291 --> 02:45:39,250
I don't want to get
3221
02:45:39,250 --> 02:45:40,416
started on the FIFA committee.
3222
02:45:40,416 --> 02:45:41,166
Let's just say
3223
02:45:41,166 --> 02:45:42,708
they're also quite corrupt.
3224
02:45:43,041 --> 02:45:45,750
But that's another that's
3225
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:47,000
another topic for another day.
3226
02:45:47,500 --> 02:45:52,833
But I firmly believe this is just me.
3227
02:45:52,833 --> 02:45:55,625
I firmly believe that EA FC 25 didn't
3228
02:45:55,625 --> 02:45:56,750
sell as well because it
3229
02:45:56,750 --> 02:45:57,041
didn't have the title.
3230
02:45:57,083 --> 02:45:58,500
It didn't have the name FIFA.
3231
02:45:59,166 --> 02:46:00,666
And no one knows what an FC is.
3232
02:46:01,166 --> 02:46:02,333
It's just football club.
3233
02:46:02,541 --> 02:46:03,208
But no one knows what
3234
02:46:03,208 --> 02:46:03,958
the fuck that means.
3235
02:46:04,541 --> 02:46:05,791
But everyone knows that FIFA is right.
3236
02:46:10,500 --> 02:46:13,000
They did it's called FC. I know but it's
3237
02:46:13,000 --> 02:46:14,791
abbreviated. Why wouldn't they just?
3238
02:46:15,416 --> 02:46:17,000
Mark it as much as possible without
3239
02:46:17,000 --> 02:46:18,458
abbreviation. That's
3240
02:46:18,875 --> 02:46:20,125
Because you'd probably get a confused
3241
02:46:20,125 --> 02:46:22,000
with American football because they also
3242
02:46:22,125 --> 02:46:23,125
Doesn't matter
3243
02:46:24,333 --> 02:46:26,625
Right on the front cover and then the
3244
02:46:26,625 --> 02:46:27,958
people that play those games don't
3245
02:46:27,958 --> 02:46:28,625
understand what an
3246
02:46:28,625 --> 02:46:31,750
abbreviation is. Yeah. Yeah
3247
02:46:31,750 --> 02:46:36,125
I didn't know what a football club was
3248
02:46:36,125 --> 02:46:38,000
until I watched Ted lasso. Oh
3249
02:46:40,583 --> 02:46:41,958
I'm part of that group. I don't even know
3250
02:46:43,500 --> 02:46:46,125
It's like a it's like the premier league
3251
02:46:46,125 --> 02:46:47,625
and shit like that. It's like a franchise
3252
02:46:47,625 --> 02:46:49,541
Yeah, but Gardner said that makes it for
3253
02:46:49,541 --> 02:46:53,041
like soccer or as the Europeans call it
3254
02:46:53,250 --> 02:46:53,541
football
3255
02:46:55,250 --> 02:46:55,416
Football
3256
02:46:56,583 --> 02:46:59,791
Or you mean the rest of the yeah the rest
3257
02:46:59,791 --> 02:47:02,541
of the world I should say only aren't we
3258
02:47:02,541 --> 02:47:04,375
like the only country that calls it
3259
02:47:05,208 --> 02:47:06,625
Yes, because we practice a
3260
02:47:06,625 --> 02:47:07,583
different type of football
3261
02:47:08,416 --> 02:47:09,458
American football
3262
02:47:09,833 --> 02:47:12,000
Where we go go clap we go on the field
3263
02:47:12,000 --> 02:47:14,375
clad in armor and just start like tacking
3264
02:47:14,375 --> 02:47:15,583
the shit out of each other
3265
02:47:16,583 --> 02:47:18,958
I'm excited. I don't even care
3266
02:47:21,208 --> 02:47:21,791
Football
3267
02:47:23,958 --> 02:47:26,166
But yeah, I firmly believe that
3268
02:47:27,208 --> 02:47:29,833
They that the losing they they lost the
3269
02:47:29,833 --> 02:47:31,291
FIFA license and so I
3270
02:47:31,291 --> 02:47:32,708
believe that's why it suffered
3271
02:47:32,708 --> 02:47:33,833
I don't know if that's actually the case
3272
02:47:34,166 --> 02:47:35,625
But that's just the way it is
3273
02:47:35,625 --> 02:47:38,416
But I'm pretty sure the refc failing is
3274
02:47:38,416 --> 02:47:40,416
the main reason why like EA
3275
02:47:40,416 --> 02:47:41,583
stock went down substantially
3276
02:47:41,916 --> 02:47:42,875
It probably wasn't
3277
02:47:42,875 --> 02:47:43,916
because veil guard failed
3278
02:47:44,583 --> 02:47:47,041
But of course fail veil guard failed and
3279
02:47:47,041 --> 02:47:50,541
as such bioware packed them up moved
3280
02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:53,000
Multiple employees to different studios
3281
02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:55,125
while Mass Effect 5 is in pre-production
3282
02:47:57,500 --> 02:47:59,500
That's their I think that's also that
3283
02:47:59,500 --> 02:48:02,208
studios make or break if if Mass Effect 5
3284
02:48:02,208 --> 02:48:02,875
doesn't do very well
3285
02:48:03,458 --> 02:48:06,333
Biotrock might be done. I
3286
02:48:06,333 --> 02:48:08,666
Think so, which I'm really sad about but
3287
02:48:08,666 --> 02:48:11,083
you said buddy. Oh now we're making that
3288
02:48:11,083 --> 02:48:12,541
now you're making this file where
3289
02:48:13,416 --> 02:48:16,541
Whatever. No, I'm did I'm
3290
02:48:16,708 --> 02:48:18,083
Yeah, this is gonna be
3291
02:48:18,083 --> 02:48:19,041
the fucked up episodes
3292
02:48:20,250 --> 02:48:22,333
It's a reason. Okay. Yeah, we talk about
3293
02:48:22,333 --> 02:48:23,708
laughs all the time. This is depressing.
3294
02:48:23,708 --> 02:48:25,125
Let's talk about something. That's good
3295
02:48:25,750 --> 02:48:27,000
multiverse is dying
3296
02:48:27,750 --> 02:48:31,208
Dude you know that's gonna lead to a
3297
02:48:31,208 --> 02:48:33,833
layoff, right? All right, so here's the
3298
02:48:33,833 --> 02:48:35,041
tears the crazy don't like that
3299
02:48:35,041 --> 02:48:37,041
It's gonna be yeah. All right. So here's
3300
02:48:37,041 --> 02:48:39,125
the thing. So multiverse of season 5
3301
02:48:40,083 --> 02:48:42,833
starts in like three days
3302
02:48:42,833 --> 02:48:45,500
it starts on the fourth and
3303
02:48:45,541 --> 02:48:48,083
it'll last until May the 30th and
3304
02:48:48,500 --> 02:48:51,041
Starting from yesterday actually they
3305
02:48:51,041 --> 02:48:52,916
disabled all real money transactions
3306
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:55,166
But the game will be playable offline so
3307
02:48:55,166 --> 02:48:56,583
long as you download and log into the
3308
02:48:56,583 --> 02:48:57,333
game for the end of release
3309
02:48:58,041 --> 02:49:00,125
They also say the game will no longer be
3310
02:49:00,125 --> 02:49:01,666
downloadable after the 30th
3311
02:49:01,666 --> 02:49:03,916
But we don't know if that means like like
3312
02:49:03,916 --> 02:49:05,291
that you won't be able to like
3313
02:49:05,583 --> 02:49:07,916
Claim the game on your account or like
3314
02:49:07,916 --> 02:49:10,500
you can't read download it on Steam if
3315
02:49:10,500 --> 02:49:11,500
you ever uninstall it
3316
02:49:12,000 --> 02:49:13,375
So we don't know what that means
3317
02:49:13,583 --> 02:49:15,166
Here's the thing that you have to buy
3318
02:49:15,166 --> 02:49:17,041
cages multiverses and like
3319
02:49:17,041 --> 02:49:18,916
if you wanted characters now
3320
02:49:19,708 --> 02:49:21,500
You can't I don't think you can buy the
3321
02:49:21,500 --> 02:49:23,541
rest of them. I don't even know if
3322
02:49:23,541 --> 02:49:25,291
they're in game play
3323
02:49:25,291 --> 02:49:28,250
They better be like imagine if like you
3324
02:49:28,250 --> 02:49:29,791
got a half half of a game
3325
02:49:29,791 --> 02:49:31,166
before the game went offline
3326
02:49:32,125 --> 02:49:33,750
That'd be fucked up
3327
02:49:34,250 --> 02:49:34,541
dude
3328
02:49:35,125 --> 02:49:36,416
there better be
3329
02:49:37,333 --> 02:49:39,500
This makes me so mad because it's a load
3330
02:49:39,500 --> 02:49:41,000
of horseshit to require
3331
02:49:41,000 --> 02:49:42,208
people to download the game
3332
02:49:43,000 --> 02:49:45,625
Now and log in in order to be able to
3333
02:49:45,625 --> 02:49:47,500
play it after it goes offline
3334
02:49:47,750 --> 02:49:49,416
that's just I try not to
3335
02:49:49,416 --> 02:49:50,666
swear but that's bullshit and
3336
02:49:51,333 --> 02:49:54,333
There needs to be some kind of like
3337
02:49:54,333 --> 02:49:56,916
developer made patch that disables that
3338
02:49:56,916 --> 02:49:58,041
and enables all characters
3339
02:49:58,458 --> 02:50:00,458
After like before the game goes offline
3340
02:50:00,458 --> 02:50:02,250
if they're gonna take it offline
3341
02:50:02,250 --> 02:50:05,083
I just think like that that's the least
3342
02:50:05,083 --> 02:50:07,000
that should be required of
3343
02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:09,625
live service game developers, it's like
3344
02:50:09,625 --> 02:50:11,250
if you're taking your game off you have
3345
02:50:11,250 --> 02:50:14,250
to either give everyone a refund or
3346
02:50:14,666 --> 02:50:17,375
enable it to be played offline after
3347
02:50:17,875 --> 02:50:20,416
It goes out because well, you know their
3348
02:50:20,416 --> 02:50:22,416
parent company Warner Brothers. Oh my
3349
02:50:22,416 --> 02:50:24,875
god, so have you seen The Matrix 4?
3350
02:50:26,208 --> 02:50:27,875
No, I rewatched.
3351
02:50:27,875 --> 02:50:29,208
Alright, so there's this one
3352
02:50:29,208 --> 02:50:31,416
so like half for the first half was like
3353
02:50:31,416 --> 02:50:33,458
a meta like almost like a meta like
3354
02:50:34,125 --> 02:50:36,208
movie so to speak where
3355
02:50:36,208 --> 02:50:40,083
Neo in the like new Matrix is the like
3356
02:50:40,083 --> 02:50:42,166
the guy the he's the Hideo Kojima
3357
02:50:42,500 --> 02:50:44,750
Behind the original matrix trilogy, which
3358
02:50:44,750 --> 02:50:45,958
is like a children video games
3359
02:50:45,958 --> 02:50:48,291
and so he there's this one scene where he
3360
02:50:48,291 --> 02:50:50,416
goes in with his like boss or like
3361
02:50:50,416 --> 02:50:52,125
partner or whatever and
3362
02:50:52,125 --> 02:50:53,666
Then they're talking about how their
3363
02:50:53,666 --> 02:50:55,666
parent company Warner Brothers wants to
3364
02:50:55,666 --> 02:50:57,583
make a fourth matrix with or without them
3365
02:50:58,208 --> 02:51:01,416
And oh my god. Okay. I am inclined to
3366
02:51:01,416 --> 02:51:02,541
believe that Warner
3367
02:51:02,541 --> 02:51:03,833
Brothers might be the worst
3368
02:51:04,250 --> 02:51:06,416
Company on this list. Yeah,
3369
02:51:06,416 --> 02:51:08,500
like a little below Nvidia. Oh
3370
02:51:08,541 --> 02:51:13,041
Oh gosh, I I don't disagree with that
3371
02:51:13,333 --> 02:51:16,000
I like I have I've heard like some
3372
02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:18,875
staunch defending of The Matrix 4
3373
02:51:19,458 --> 02:51:21,041
like as a as
3374
02:51:21,583 --> 02:51:23,500
Lana which out was isn't Lana which house
3375
02:51:23,500 --> 02:51:25,083
here is it? I believe it was Lana
3376
02:51:25,083 --> 02:51:28,458
Wachowski. Yes. Yeah, she ended up like
3377
02:51:29,166 --> 02:51:31,833
deliberately like sabotaging the script
3378
02:51:31,833 --> 02:51:33,583
because she wanted to like
3379
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:36,041
Screw over Warner Brothers and there's
3380
02:51:36,041 --> 02:51:38,041
some staunch defending of the movie
3381
02:51:38,541 --> 02:51:40,166
From that perspective and I think that
3382
02:51:40,166 --> 02:51:41,250
that's pretty cool. But I haven't I
3383
02:51:41,250 --> 02:51:42,083
haven't watched it myself
3384
02:51:42,541 --> 02:51:43,541
You should yeah
3385
02:51:43,583 --> 02:51:46,291
I mean it's objectively like if you were
3386
02:51:46,291 --> 02:51:47,750
looking forward to it as like a true
3387
02:51:47,750 --> 02:51:48,750
follow-up to The Matrix
3388
02:51:49,083 --> 02:51:51,333
you're going to be disappointed because
3389
02:51:52,000 --> 02:51:54,208
It's not I'm pretty sure it's like an
3390
02:51:54,208 --> 02:51:56,250
anti movie almost because like The Matrix
3391
02:51:56,250 --> 02:51:56,958
was known for its
3392
02:51:56,958 --> 02:51:58,000
like action choreography
3393
02:51:58,125 --> 02:52:01,333
And the action in this is like the actual
3394
02:52:01,333 --> 02:52:03,833
dog shit. It's just neo using
3395
02:52:03,833 --> 02:52:06,291
like force push on everything
3396
02:52:06,750 --> 02:52:10,916
Wow, and then you know in multiverses. I
3397
02:52:10,916 --> 02:52:12,958
Know agent Smith is I think the plan was
3398
02:52:12,958 --> 02:52:14,791
to have neo in but like I don't know what
3399
02:52:14,791 --> 02:52:16,041
happened to that because
3400
02:52:16,041 --> 02:52:20,958
Did and Sonic and Sonic
3401
02:52:20,958 --> 02:52:24,208
the Hedgehog 3 yeah, oh
3402
02:52:24,208 --> 02:52:25,291
Yeah, that's right
3403
02:52:26,166 --> 02:52:28,750
Dude I don't know what the hell's going
3404
02:52:28,750 --> 02:52:31,666
like multi like okay Warner Brothers
3405
02:52:32,041 --> 02:52:33,833
this is the same company that
3406
02:52:34,416 --> 02:52:35,250
Canceled completed
3407
02:52:35,250 --> 02:52:36,875
movies for tax purposes
3408
02:52:36,875 --> 02:52:38,500
Like I understand those movies probably
3409
02:52:38,500 --> 02:52:40,625
weren't gonna do well because like the DC
3410
02:52:40,916 --> 02:52:43,625
EU was fucked up and they also cancelled
3411
02:52:43,625 --> 02:52:44,541
what sounded like a
3412
02:52:44,541 --> 02:52:46,166
really cool movie, which is a
3413
02:52:47,208 --> 02:52:49,333
Kiyo, I think it was a coyote versus Acme
3414
02:52:49,333 --> 02:52:51,000
or whatever and it's supposed to be this
3415
02:52:51,000 --> 02:52:52,458
like, okay, so have you heard of it?
3416
02:52:53,875 --> 02:52:55,833
So it's the movie is the
3417
02:52:55,833 --> 02:52:57,416
premise says that like, you know
3418
02:52:57,416 --> 02:52:59,541
Why why Lee coyote he buys a lot of Acme
3419
02:52:59,541 --> 02:53:01,000
products and they always
3420
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:02,208
fail to catch the Roadrunner
3421
02:53:02,750 --> 02:53:04,666
Well, this was him take go.
3422
02:53:04,666 --> 02:53:06,083
This was him going to court
3423
02:53:06,916 --> 02:53:09,875
With Acme like the company and it was
3424
02:53:09,875 --> 02:53:12,625
gonna be like a 2d. I think from what
3425
02:53:12,625 --> 02:53:14,083
I've heard was supposed to get 2d like
3426
02:53:14,791 --> 02:53:16,958
Well, he carries in 2d, but like it's
3427
02:53:16,958 --> 02:53:18,458
like Space Jam. Yeah
3428
02:53:18,458 --> 02:53:20,916
almost but like a court drama
3429
02:53:21,708 --> 02:53:23,083
And I thought that would that would have
3430
02:53:23,083 --> 02:53:24,833
been the coolest thing ever and they
3431
02:53:24,833 --> 02:53:26,708
canceled that I would have been
3432
02:53:26,708 --> 02:53:28,958
At least it's unique. How would that
3433
02:53:28,958 --> 02:53:30,083
work? He doesn't talk.
3434
02:53:30,291 --> 02:53:31,916
He just holds a sign up
3435
02:53:32,083 --> 02:53:34,708
Well, I mean that I mean, I don't know I
3436
02:53:34,708 --> 02:53:35,708
would like to see how that
3437
02:53:35,708 --> 02:53:37,625
I worked. I'm here for it
3438
02:53:37,625 --> 02:53:39,958
I want to see that and WB
3439
02:53:39,958 --> 02:53:42,125
canceled it and with that girl
3440
02:53:42,625 --> 02:53:43,125
unreal
3441
02:53:44,791 --> 02:53:46,083
How is
3442
02:53:47,541 --> 02:53:48,666
Who is gonna so there's
3443
02:53:48,666 --> 02:53:50,500
rumored half-life in the works movie
3444
02:53:50,916 --> 02:53:52,291
There's always a rumored but like it's
3445
02:53:52,291 --> 02:53:53,291
even stronger this year
3446
02:53:53,291 --> 02:53:54,958
that will oh man. There's
3447
02:53:55,708 --> 02:53:57,208
If you go look at the list of game
3448
02:53:57,208 --> 02:54:02,333
Game based TV shows and movies it is
3449
02:54:03,041 --> 02:54:04,625
intense this year
3450
02:54:05,291 --> 02:54:07,250
It's really crazy.
3451
02:54:07,250 --> 02:54:09,208
You got a link to it. I
3452
02:54:09,250 --> 02:54:10,375
Do not right now. My
3453
02:54:10,375 --> 02:54:11,208
wife was talking to me
3454
02:54:12,250 --> 02:54:14,500
Really but oh my god
3455
02:54:17,375 --> 02:54:19,708
Well, so let's see what IGN
3456
02:54:19,708 --> 02:54:21,458
says I think we've seen this so
3457
02:54:22,541 --> 02:54:27,083
My oh my god Minecraft. Oh, no
3458
02:54:27,250 --> 02:54:27,750
No
3459
02:54:29,166 --> 02:54:31,958
Trailer for that I have I don't like it.
3460
02:54:31,958 --> 02:54:35,500
Oh, it's so ugly. It's so ugly
3461
02:54:35,708 --> 02:54:37,291
It's worse than than
3462
02:54:37,291 --> 02:54:39,833
original Sonic movie like trailer
3463
02:54:41,250 --> 02:54:43,583
I like I will everything that's minecraft
3464
02:54:43,583 --> 02:54:46,166
related. I like I don't like the like
3465
02:54:47,458 --> 02:54:48,750
In the sense of I think it's interesting.
3466
02:54:48,750 --> 02:54:49,583
I don't think I'd watch it
3467
02:54:49,583 --> 02:54:51,291
I'm not the target market, but like all
3468
02:54:51,291 --> 02:54:52,916
the actors just seem kind of I
3469
02:54:52,916 --> 02:54:55,916
don't know why Jack Black why?
3470
02:54:56,916 --> 02:55:01,000
And then we have until dawn the movie
3471
02:55:01,833 --> 02:55:03,541
Mmm, it could work. I could say it
3472
02:55:03,541 --> 02:55:05,166
working. The game is basically a movie
3473
02:55:05,166 --> 02:55:07,791
anyways. Yeah moral combat
3474
02:55:08,125 --> 02:55:12,166
Hmm maybe
3475
02:55:12,166 --> 02:55:16,541
I'm gonna be if you on there. I like Kano
3476
02:55:16,541 --> 02:55:19,000
from the new Mortal Kombat movie. Yeah
3477
02:55:20,416 --> 02:55:22,208
The movie was good. It's just
3478
02:55:22,208 --> 02:55:24,333
wasn't that good. It was okay
3479
02:55:24,750 --> 02:55:28,875
Yeah, it was like I I went and I had a
3480
02:55:28,875 --> 02:55:31,250
good time. That's it. At least it's rated
3481
02:55:31,250 --> 02:55:32,458
R. I'm like the first
3482
02:55:32,458 --> 02:55:33,541
Mortal Kombat movies
3483
02:55:34,125 --> 02:55:34,666
true
3484
02:55:35,791 --> 02:55:36,333
like
3485
02:55:37,250 --> 02:55:38,375
And then we have Five
3486
02:55:38,375 --> 02:55:41,708
Nights at Freddy's I
3487
02:55:41,791 --> 02:55:43,125
Forgot there was a Five Nights at
3488
02:55:43,125 --> 02:55:44,333
Freddy's and they're making another
3489
02:55:44,333 --> 02:55:45,791
street fighter movie man
3490
02:55:46,833 --> 02:55:47,750
this
3491
02:55:48,500 --> 02:55:50,583
God damn it. Is it gonna get good this
3492
02:55:50,583 --> 02:55:52,666
time? We might need to do we might need
3493
02:55:52,666 --> 02:55:53,500
to save that topic for
3494
02:55:53,500 --> 02:55:54,625
next time because okay
3495
02:55:54,625 --> 02:55:55,541
Okay. Okay. All right.
3496
02:55:55,541 --> 02:55:56,833
Well, yeah, you're right
3497
02:55:56,833 --> 02:56:01,958
Which ones we think would be
3498
02:56:01,958 --> 02:56:02,958
good and which would be bad
3499
02:56:03,916 --> 02:56:05,791
All right, I got the I got the article
3500
02:56:05,791 --> 02:56:07,125
right here. I'll go ahead and add that to
3501
02:56:07,125 --> 02:56:08,541
the document man. Yeah
3502
02:56:08,541 --> 02:56:11,833
What the fuck there's so many this year
3503
02:56:13,416 --> 02:56:15,083
Dude I'm looking at the half-life
3504
02:56:15,500 --> 02:56:16,916
Like some of the rumors
3505
02:56:16,916 --> 02:56:20,375
I do you remember when when JJ Abrams was
3506
02:56:20,375 --> 02:56:22,500
like attached to do like not only a
3507
02:56:22,500 --> 02:56:24,750
half-life but a frickin portal movie
3508
02:56:24,958 --> 02:56:26,708
Yep, do you attach to
3509
02:56:26,708 --> 02:56:27,791
do like a Halo movie?
3510
02:56:28,875 --> 02:56:30,291
No, that was um
3511
02:56:31,125 --> 02:56:32,500
Well, what's his name?
3512
02:56:33,666 --> 02:56:35,916
Frickin gosh darn it
3513
02:56:37,333 --> 02:56:40,333
The guy who did Elysium and
3514
02:56:41,916 --> 02:56:44,083
Yeah, I mean this is nine
3515
02:56:44,083 --> 02:56:46,541
district nine, yeah, yeah
3516
02:56:47,708 --> 02:56:48,500
Yeah, I remember that was
3517
02:56:48,500 --> 02:56:50,541
supposed to be a halo movie
3518
02:56:52,083 --> 02:56:54,708
District nine wasn't but he like did a
3519
02:56:54,708 --> 02:56:57,666
bunch of like the halo 3 marketing and he
3520
02:56:57,666 --> 02:56:59,041
was attached to also do
3521
02:56:59,416 --> 02:57:02,000
The like the movie and
3522
02:57:02,000 --> 02:57:03,708
that would have been Oh
3523
02:57:03,958 --> 02:57:05,625
Amazing if he had actually gone through
3524
02:57:05,625 --> 02:57:08,208
with that, but have you seen it James?
3525
02:57:09,166 --> 02:57:10,833
the halo 3 like the halo
3526
02:57:12,166 --> 02:57:15,291
Like the believe the campaign. Yeah, the
3527
02:57:15,291 --> 02:57:16,500
believe campaign was one of them. There
3528
02:57:16,500 --> 02:57:17,666
was another one that where
3529
02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:19,250
There's a bunch of like I
3530
02:57:19,250 --> 02:57:21,083
have or not. I feel like
3531
02:57:21,500 --> 02:57:23,291
I've seen a lot I've seen so much stuff
3532
02:57:23,291 --> 02:57:24,000
over the years that I
3533
02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:25,125
just what did it now?
3534
02:57:25,500 --> 02:57:28,083
So it came out like around like halo 3
3535
02:57:28,083 --> 02:57:28,958
like before the
3536
02:57:28,958 --> 02:57:30,458
launch of halo 3. Oh, yeah
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02:57:30,458 --> 02:57:32,791
Yeah, and there's like this one like
3538
02:57:33,708 --> 02:57:37,125
Dude, I can't watch that those videos
3539
02:57:37,125 --> 02:57:40,666
without actually crying like the the the
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02:57:40,750 --> 02:57:42,875
Tableau to the raindrop prelude
3541
02:57:43,291 --> 02:57:45,333
Like with the with all the little figures
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02:57:45,333 --> 02:57:47,000
of the Covenant and the Marines
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02:57:47,375 --> 02:57:49,916
God damn it that makes me like it gives
3544
02:57:49,916 --> 02:57:51,000
me chills just thinking about it
3545
02:57:51,000 --> 02:57:53,000
And then when like they have like the
3546
02:57:53,000 --> 02:57:54,833
faux documentary about
3547
02:57:54,833 --> 02:57:57,125
how the Museum of Humanity
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02:57:57,500 --> 02:57:59,750
Like after defeating after humanity
3549
02:57:59,750 --> 02:58:02,041
defeated the Covenant the Museum of
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02:58:02,041 --> 02:58:03,250
Humanity was created
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02:58:03,291 --> 02:58:05,916
And they like interviewed all of these
3552
02:58:05,916 --> 02:58:07,041
like veterans and stuff
3553
02:58:07,041 --> 02:58:08,750
and it's like all live-action
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02:58:08,750 --> 02:58:11,250
And they have really great actors in
3555
02:58:11,250 --> 02:58:13,916
there, and it's just it's so moving and
3556
02:58:13,916 --> 02:58:15,958
goddamn have you seen halo landfall
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02:58:16,083 --> 02:58:18,375
It
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02:58:18,541 --> 02:58:20,708
Was like a short little like yeah, we
3559
02:58:20,708 --> 02:58:22,000
should we should do you
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02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:22,583
know what we should do
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02:58:23,083 --> 02:58:24,250
We should watch it
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02:58:24,250 --> 02:58:25,916
right now for the audience
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02:58:25,916 --> 02:58:32,041
For next time because I am going
3564
02:58:32,958 --> 02:58:36,833
To go crazy. Yeah, I think we should do
3565
02:58:36,833 --> 02:58:38,250
it next time though because it's really
3566
02:58:38,583 --> 02:58:39,583
Put it on the list.
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02:58:39,583 --> 02:58:40,833
Yeah, let's do it. All right
3568
02:58:40,875 --> 02:58:43,500
But yeah, I mean anyway,
3569
02:58:43,500 --> 02:58:46,833
we're off topic again multiverses
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02:58:48,083 --> 02:58:50,041
Bye bye, I guess I
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02:58:50,041 --> 02:58:51,916
Mean, I know I think it's not a surprise.
3572
02:58:51,916 --> 02:58:53,875
I'm I'm surprised it lasted this long
3573
02:58:53,875 --> 02:58:56,250
honestly. Yeah, I've seen this well
3574
02:58:56,250 --> 02:58:57,000
Here's the thing though
3575
02:58:57,416 --> 02:58:59,500
Multiverses shut down earlier and then
3576
02:58:59,500 --> 02:59:01,583
came back so this is like the second time
3577
02:59:01,583 --> 02:59:03,833
it's died. What the hell?
3578
02:59:06,375 --> 02:59:08,625
Yep, WBB what is wrong with you WB?
3579
02:59:09,083 --> 02:59:10,000
I
3580
02:59:10,791 --> 02:59:12,458
They tried and then it's not making the
3581
02:59:12,458 --> 02:59:13,541
money that they want and
3582
02:59:13,541 --> 02:59:15,208
so they're shutting it down
3583
02:59:17,458 --> 02:59:18,666
It's not like they make
3584
02:59:18,666 --> 02:59:19,791
a lot of good decisions
3585
02:59:20,375 --> 02:59:21,375
No, I'm surprised.
3586
02:59:21,375 --> 02:59:22,166
There's still a company
3587
02:59:22,916 --> 02:59:25,041
Well, you know there's a company because
3588
02:59:25,041 --> 02:59:27,541
they like to like get tax. They like to
3589
02:59:27,541 --> 02:59:29,916
not pay taxes obviously I
3590
02:59:30,708 --> 02:59:31,958
Mean they're writing on the Harry Potter
3591
02:59:31,958 --> 02:59:34,208
coattails right now. That's
3592
02:59:34,208 --> 02:59:35,708
true. They do have a couple of
3593
02:59:36,375 --> 02:59:38,541
Cash cows that they're still milking.
3594
02:59:38,541 --> 02:59:41,625
Yeah, wait what all right Hogwarts legacy
3595
02:59:42,000 --> 02:59:43,500
Because I was thinking wait with a making
3596
02:59:43,500 --> 02:59:45,541
a new Harry Potter movie now that no
3597
02:59:45,541 --> 02:59:47,500
doing a new show on HBO
3598
02:59:47,500 --> 02:59:49,000
It's a Harry. It's like they're just
3599
02:59:49,000 --> 02:59:51,541
redoing Harry Potter as a show on HBO.
3600
02:59:51,541 --> 02:59:54,708
Yeah. Yep. That doesn't really scream
3601
02:59:55,333 --> 02:59:57,500
Hey Potter's only screen HBO
3602
02:59:58,083 --> 03:00:00,791
Cuz it's like a chill. It's like oh, it's
3603
03:00:00,791 --> 03:00:01,750
like a children's book
3604
03:00:02,708 --> 03:00:04,708
Well, you're gonna see Snape's ass when
3605
03:00:04,708 --> 03:00:06,541
that's that's gonna bring in the views
3606
03:00:06,541 --> 03:00:08,791
god. Oh my god. It is
3607
03:00:08,791 --> 03:00:11,833
gonna bring in the views. I
3608
03:00:11,833 --> 03:00:13,625
Can't wait for the first season sex
3609
03:00:13,625 --> 03:00:15,958
scenes not what you see with it. What
3610
03:00:15,958 --> 03:00:18,291
what teachers? Yeah, dude,
3611
03:00:18,291 --> 03:00:19,666
but they're gonna have like
3612
03:00:20,166 --> 03:00:22,583
I think because the Harry Potter movies
3613
03:00:22,583 --> 03:00:24,083
had pretty good actors too. They had like
3614
03:00:25,333 --> 03:00:27,500
Alan recommend as a Snape too and
3615
03:00:28,500 --> 03:00:31,000
Some of the others like oh don't they'll
3616
03:00:31,000 --> 03:00:32,791
never be able to outdo Alan Rickman
3617
03:00:32,916 --> 03:00:34,916
So and also who was a dump who's an act
3618
03:00:34,916 --> 03:00:36,500
for Dumbledore the second night
3619
03:00:36,500 --> 03:00:37,916
Dumbledore? Yeah, I
3620
03:00:37,916 --> 03:00:38,541
can't remember his name
3621
03:00:38,666 --> 03:00:42,000
He's really good. Yeah. Yeah, I
3622
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:42,208
mean
3623
03:00:43,000 --> 03:00:44,208
McGonagall was awesome
3624
03:00:44,708 --> 03:00:45,833
Maggie Smith right
3625
03:00:45,833 --> 03:00:48,291
and I mean like most of
3626
03:00:48,291 --> 03:00:51,583
What was his name the guy who did
3627
03:00:52,791 --> 03:00:55,041
Hagrid was awesome, you know and he
3628
03:00:55,041 --> 03:00:57,208
passed away recently. So oh shit
3629
03:00:57,666 --> 03:00:59,666
Yeah, I
3630
03:00:59,666 --> 03:01:01,083
Mean, I just don't I don't know why
3631
03:01:01,083 --> 03:01:03,041
they're redoing it. They don't need to
3632
03:01:03,500 --> 03:01:05,541
There's only one. There's only one reason
3633
03:01:05,541 --> 03:01:06,416
why they're redoing it
3634
03:01:08,458 --> 03:01:10,416
I'm just shocked that they're not like
3635
03:01:10,416 --> 03:01:12,208
continuing some stories or doing some
3636
03:01:12,208 --> 03:01:13,291
other stuff in the universe because I
3637
03:01:13,291 --> 03:01:14,875
think the universe is fun
3638
03:01:15,625 --> 03:01:18,625
But they gotta stop rehashing this whole
3639
03:01:19,625 --> 03:01:22,708
Same story. Well, they were trying to do
3640
03:01:22,708 --> 03:01:24,500
that with the myth the
3641
03:01:24,500 --> 03:01:27,166
Fantastic Beasts series and
3642
03:01:27,166 --> 03:01:28,208
but like these
3643
03:01:28,916 --> 03:01:30,291
the last one
3644
03:01:30,958 --> 03:01:32,458
was a
3645
03:01:32,458 --> 03:01:35,208
Little confused. I heard it kind of was
3646
03:01:35,208 --> 03:01:35,833
and they were supposed
3647
03:01:35,833 --> 03:01:36,625
to make more of those
3648
03:01:36,833 --> 03:01:38,708
Because we never saw the final battle
3649
03:01:38,708 --> 03:01:40,750
between Dumbledore and Grindelwald
3650
03:01:40,750 --> 03:01:43,166
But yeah, obviously that I think they
3651
03:01:43,166 --> 03:01:44,500
canceled those movies if not mistaken
3652
03:01:45,500 --> 03:01:47,250
And then I think one of the principal
3653
03:01:47,250 --> 03:01:48,875
characters was played by Ezra Miller,
3654
03:01:48,875 --> 03:01:49,875
which as you know,
3655
03:01:49,875 --> 03:01:51,166
there's a complete psychopath
3656
03:01:53,750 --> 03:01:55,375
I'm surprised the flash
3657
03:01:55,375 --> 03:01:58,666
movie even came out and
3658
03:01:58,666 --> 03:02:00,916
There were two characters played by Ezra
3659
03:02:00,916 --> 03:02:03,083
Miller and they were both the flash
3660
03:02:04,208 --> 03:02:05,708
They should have gotten the guy from the
3661
03:02:05,708 --> 03:02:08,708
CW or whatever. I don't know his name. I
3662
03:02:09,041 --> 03:02:10,875
Don't know. It's crazy
3663
03:02:12,125 --> 03:02:13,791
Wb very crazy
3664
03:02:14,791 --> 03:02:15,833
I mean they were so eager to
3665
03:02:15,833 --> 03:02:17,041
cut out and were heard from
3666
03:02:17,458 --> 03:02:20,333
From the Aquaman sequel like they reduced
3667
03:02:20,333 --> 03:02:22,125
her like role like quite substantially,
3668
03:02:22,125 --> 03:02:23,541
but they still kept Ezra
3669
03:02:23,541 --> 03:02:25,208
Miller. It's like movie
3670
03:02:26,708 --> 03:02:28,875
Yeah, I
3671
03:02:28,875 --> 03:02:32,416
Mean, yeah, that's true. I don't know. I
3672
03:02:32,416 --> 03:02:33,166
don't know why they didn't
3673
03:02:33,166 --> 03:02:35,458
do it or why they kept it
3674
03:02:35,458 --> 03:02:41,625
Well with that we've gone off topic
3675
03:02:41,791 --> 03:02:44,583
This episode was off the rails in a great
3676
03:02:44,583 --> 03:02:46,416
way. I've had a lot of fun guys
3677
03:02:47,541 --> 03:02:50,125
It is really fun. I've had a lot of fun.
3678
03:02:50,125 --> 03:02:52,583
I am lost now on what we're talking about
3679
03:02:54,333 --> 03:02:57,500
But no, I mean if you guys enjoyed any of
3680
03:02:57,500 --> 03:02:59,208
the topics that we talked about today
3681
03:02:59,291 --> 03:03:01,583
Let us know your thoughts in the comments
3682
03:03:01,583 --> 03:03:02,958
or if you have
3683
03:03:02,958 --> 03:03:04,458
questions, you want to ask us?
3684
03:03:04,458 --> 03:03:05,708
Let us know in the comments as well
3685
03:03:06,500 --> 03:03:08,291
Well, we'll try if we get some good
3686
03:03:08,291 --> 03:03:10,208
questions, we'll do like a dedicated
3687
03:03:10,208 --> 03:03:11,791
segment about about you
3688
03:03:11,791 --> 03:03:15,416
You know a QA. I love to see it. Yeah QA
3689
03:03:15,791 --> 03:03:19,500
AMA, whatever you want to call it and
3690
03:03:19,500 --> 03:03:20,625
you can also if you're on
3691
03:03:20,625 --> 03:03:22,208
the Fediverse Macedon or
3692
03:03:22,791 --> 03:03:25,000
Peer tube, I guess not peer tube but
3693
03:03:25,000 --> 03:03:26,500
Macedon what you can leave
3694
03:03:26,500 --> 03:03:27,875
comments on on these posts
3695
03:03:27,875 --> 03:03:29,500
I think all three of us are on maston,
3696
03:03:29,500 --> 03:03:30,083
right? Do you guys
3697
03:03:30,083 --> 03:03:32,000
retweet these when we post them?
3698
03:03:32,250 --> 03:03:34,208
I
3699
03:03:34,291 --> 03:03:36,708
Put you on the spot put me on the spot
3700
03:03:36,708 --> 03:03:38,458
here. No, I am on there, but
3701
03:03:38,458 --> 03:03:39,375
I need to get on there more
3702
03:03:39,833 --> 03:03:41,291
Yeah, I've been a loose guy more lately.
3703
03:03:41,291 --> 03:03:43,666
Yeah, so I will repost
3704
03:03:43,666 --> 03:03:46,083
this as as a mastodon
3705
03:03:46,458 --> 03:03:48,000
post and if you guys
3706
03:03:48,458 --> 03:03:51,250
See that you can just leave a mastodon
3707
03:03:51,250 --> 03:03:52,375
comment and it'll appear
3708
03:03:52,375 --> 03:03:55,166
and we'll see it on on our
3709
03:03:55,833 --> 03:03:58,708
Website and so just you can engage with
3710
03:03:58,708 --> 03:04:00,500
that way or with YouTube and
3711
03:04:00,500 --> 03:04:02,083
we'll we'll take it from there
3712
03:04:02,708 --> 03:04:05,000
With that said thank you all for watching
3713
03:04:05,000 --> 03:04:07,125
get subscribed hit that like button share
3714
03:04:07,125 --> 03:04:07,708
it with your friends.
3715
03:04:07,708 --> 03:04:09,083
Whatever you're supposed to do
3716
03:04:09,666 --> 03:04:12,208
And we will see you guys next week
3717
03:04:13,916 --> 03:04:15,708
Yes, peace out guys later
3718
03:04:15,708 --> 03:04:19,875
You say bye hi tech
3719
03:04:21,208 --> 03:04:24,208
Did I say bye no, oh shit
3720
03:04:25,250 --> 03:04:27,000
Bye guys