1 00:00:00,046 --> 00:00:03,506 Welcome back to Off the Console, the hottest new podcast. 2 00:00:03,506 --> 00:00:06,586 It's all about gaming, tech news, and anything nerdy. 3 00:00:06,586 --> 00:00:11,846 This week we're covering the biggest news, including the Triple Initiative. 4 00:00:12,826 --> 00:00:17,506 And we've got an interesting lineup for sure. 5 00:00:18,386 --> 00:00:21,506 Steam Deck prototype was auctioned off. 6 00:00:21,666 --> 00:00:23,586 And so we're going to do lot of speculating there. 7 00:00:23,586 --> 00:00:26,766 And who's the famous person that bought that? 8 00:00:26,766 --> 00:00:28,406 And so that'll be fun. 9 00:00:29,082 --> 00:00:39,075 Last episode was one of the was it it was one of the most viewed episodes of the podcast yet We've been doing well So thank you guys for following and watching and listening on 10 00:00:39,075 --> 00:00:56,089 the Fediverse or wherever else you listen to us on whatever podcast or YouTube you guys do To make this so much more fun Okay, so yeah exactly Today we have a special guest with us 11 00:00:56,370 --> 00:00:57,310 bill 12 00:00:58,062 --> 00:01:02,144 coming over after recording yesterday, your podcast. 13 00:01:02,985 --> 00:01:04,886 Yeah, welcome, welcome. 14 00:01:04,886 --> 00:01:06,342 Do you want? 15 00:01:06,647 --> 00:01:07,787 Yeah, thanks. 16 00:01:07,787 --> 00:01:10,679 So we're going to start off by like what everyone's playing or doing. 17 00:01:10,679 --> 00:01:13,490 But could you also introduce yourself along with that bill? 18 00:01:14,174 --> 00:01:15,674 Sure, I'm Bill. 19 00:01:15,674 --> 00:01:20,115 I host the Nerd Nest podcast as well as my the Nerd Nest YouTube channel. 20 00:01:20,115 --> 00:01:25,237 I've been covering video game content for a really, really long time. 21 00:01:25,718 --> 00:01:33,430 Just recently started getting more into the PC side of things and really been having a lot of fun making making shows like this. 22 00:01:33,430 --> 00:01:37,161 Like this is I always say that YouTube is my favorite video game. 23 00:01:37,161 --> 00:01:39,642 So that's the game that I play the most. 24 00:01:40,654 --> 00:01:41,797 I need to play that more. 25 00:01:41,797 --> 00:01:42,900 I really do. 26 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:44,201 I do like it. 27 00:01:44,503 --> 00:01:48,551 I haven't fallen off the YouTube bandwagon recently, but hey. 28 00:01:50,798 --> 00:01:52,489 you've been falling off it. 29 00:01:52,810 --> 00:01:57,018 I've been- I've just had less time to do it because I've been playing more video games. 30 00:01:57,506 --> 00:01:58,732 There you go. 31 00:01:58,732 --> 00:02:00,094 Yeah, you have to pick one. 32 00:02:00,094 --> 00:02:02,437 You can either play games or you can talk about them. 33 00:02:02,437 --> 00:02:04,622 Doing both is really friggin' hard. 34 00:02:04,622 --> 00:02:09,166 Yeah, unless you're a streamer that does both at the same time. 35 00:02:09,166 --> 00:02:12,086 yeah, I have a job so that ain't happening. 36 00:02:12,089 --> 00:02:13,230 That's horrible. 37 00:02:13,230 --> 00:02:15,910 Yeah, I did do streaming for a little bit, especially. 38 00:02:16,410 --> 00:02:17,650 Yeah, that one's a hard one. 39 00:02:17,650 --> 00:02:19,310 It's fun, but draining. 40 00:02:19,310 --> 00:02:19,770 Yeah. 41 00:02:19,770 --> 00:02:25,810 Like a lot of people say that like, oh, it's not a real job or oh, it's not difficult. 42 00:02:25,810 --> 00:02:27,510 But like, it's a lot harder than you think. 43 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:33,650 You got to be entertaining to be a successful streamer and also kind of actually you don't even need to be good at video games. 44 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:35,870 just need to be entertaining while you're playing. 45 00:02:35,870 --> 00:02:38,210 need to be entertaining and have a brand. 46 00:02:38,410 --> 00:02:41,690 It's because it's a low entry. 47 00:02:43,672 --> 00:02:48,967 kinda low entry job or a low entry career, you have to work your ass off. 48 00:02:49,428 --> 00:02:51,150 People don't understand that. 49 00:02:51,150 --> 00:02:57,656 Yeah, like to be honest, I don't think I could do it because when I'm playing a video game, I get really into it and I just kinda forget about chat. 50 00:02:59,419 --> 00:03:01,841 With a good enough therapist, I think I could do it. 51 00:03:03,763 --> 00:03:04,644 I think I could do it. 52 00:03:04,644 --> 00:03:06,425 I've tried it, it's just... 53 00:03:06,914 --> 00:03:16,272 Yeah, it gets a little overwhelming after a while of just sitting there non-stop and just like questioning existence of I don't want to play video games right now even though I 54 00:03:16,272 --> 00:03:17,743 love playing video games. 55 00:03:17,904 --> 00:03:19,996 I want to just play this video game in private. 56 00:03:19,996 --> 00:03:26,411 So yeah, and also the backseat gamers, man, that's got to be the worst. 57 00:03:27,212 --> 00:03:29,794 It's not too bad. 58 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:31,701 Depends on who you are. 59 00:03:31,701 --> 00:03:33,704 But yeah, sometimes it'll spoil things. 60 00:03:33,705 --> 00:03:36,889 Are you playing anything fun or doing anything, Bill? 61 00:03:37,342 --> 00:03:44,295 I have been playing, I don't know how much you guys want me to talk about this because I am currently obsessed with Monster Hunter Wilds. 62 00:03:44,295 --> 00:03:46,246 I cannot stop playing it. 63 00:03:46,246 --> 00:03:48,727 I'm a huge Monster Hunter fan. 64 00:03:49,028 --> 00:03:56,621 played Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate was the, think might have been the first one that I played. 65 00:03:56,621 --> 00:04:01,233 And then I also played Monster Hunter World, Monster Hunter Rise, and then this is my fourth one. 66 00:04:01,453 --> 00:04:05,535 And I absolutely love what they've done with Monster Hunter Wilds. 67 00:04:06,156 --> 00:04:07,216 Have any of you guys been 68 00:04:07,216 --> 00:04:08,646 playing Monster Hunter. 69 00:04:09,999 --> 00:04:13,241 The last one I played was Generations Ultimate. 70 00:04:14,163 --> 00:04:19,467 That was a long time ago, yeah, but I've played them since the PSP era. 71 00:04:19,467 --> 00:04:21,469 I've played the one on PSP. 72 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:27,153 And let me tell you, you gotta play with a claw grip and it's kinda miserable because you to the D-pad. 73 00:04:28,235 --> 00:04:30,847 You have to use the D-pad to move the camera around. 74 00:04:30,847 --> 00:04:34,410 It's kind of insane, but I made it work somehow. 75 00:04:34,410 --> 00:04:36,141 I don't know if I can do it today though. 76 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:45,558 yeah well with the new one you don't have to do that it has traditional controls and the thing that i like most about it is you have a mount and in old monster hunter games what 77 00:04:45,558 --> 00:04:54,405 would happen is you would damage the monster enough and he'd be like jesus this guy's an asshole i gotta get out of here and he would run off right and then you gotta go chasing 78 00:04:54,405 --> 00:05:00,129 him which is fine because you know you're hunting this thing you're trying to track it down it makes sense 79 00:05:00,290 --> 00:05:06,034 but that artificially dragged out how long these boss fights are for a really long time. 80 00:05:06,034 --> 00:05:14,319 And in the new one, you just call your mount, you hop on, you tell the mount, track it down, and then all of the other things that you would normally do when playing the game, 81 00:05:14,319 --> 00:05:18,190 you just do while the mount is taking you to the next fight area. 82 00:05:18,190 --> 00:05:19,601 And it's really great. 83 00:05:19,886 --> 00:05:28,780 I think, mean, traditionally the case though, when you learn a monster's pattern, you can set traps accordingly in accordance to how they move around. 84 00:05:28,780 --> 00:05:38,263 So like when you learn how a monster moves and when they try to run away, they might trigger the trap instead, which means you could kill them on the same screen if you know 85 00:05:38,263 --> 00:05:39,394 what you're doing. 86 00:05:39,730 --> 00:05:41,944 Yeah, well, I mean, I'm a filthy casual. 87 00:05:41,944 --> 00:05:43,736 I'm not hardcore, so... 88 00:05:44,914 --> 00:05:47,075 I'll sit there and play that game too much. 89 00:05:47,635 --> 00:05:55,178 I've played games like it and I've played past versions of it, you know, and so... 90 00:05:56,699 --> 00:05:57,280 I can't. 91 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:58,320 I'll get a... 92 00:05:59,381 --> 00:06:00,231 It really is. 93 00:06:00,231 --> 00:06:11,186 It's the same reason why Bellatro is fun and I played up to a certain point, but if I get too serious about that, I will lose my day. 94 00:06:12,174 --> 00:06:12,654 uh... 95 00:06:12,654 --> 00:06:21,694 man speaking of lotto i start trying restarted the journey to get the other side i started to back up again uh... 96 00:06:21,694 --> 00:06:22,834 it i still uh... 97 00:06:22,834 --> 00:06:24,714 yeah so i don't 98 00:06:24,721 --> 00:06:30,162 he's been doing this for how many months now three or four months and it's like every episode 99 00:06:31,587 --> 00:06:33,688 Like almost half a year to be honest. 100 00:06:33,688 --> 00:06:35,097 I'm trying to 100 % the game. 101 00:06:35,097 --> 00:06:37,266 I'm trying to A. 102 00:06:37,291 --> 00:06:40,833 Beat the game with all the decks in gold state difficulty. 103 00:06:41,774 --> 00:06:42,334 B. 104 00:06:42,334 --> 00:06:42,835 B. 105 00:06:42,835 --> 00:06:46,497 Beat the game with every joker on gold state difficulty. 106 00:06:47,458 --> 00:06:49,880 See, you should be streaming that, honestly. 107 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,690 That's the type of stuff. 108 00:06:50,690 --> 00:06:53,853 If you're do initiatives like that, you pay off by streaming it. 109 00:06:53,853 --> 00:06:58,730 Yeah, that is true, but at the same time though. 110 00:06:58,730 --> 00:07:03,039 It may not be a good idea because of a topic we're going to talk about later in the video. 111 00:07:03,039 --> 00:07:04,440 No spoilers. 112 00:07:08,148 --> 00:07:12,787 But aside from that though, I've also been playing Rise of the Ronin again. 113 00:07:14,316 --> 00:07:16,256 Is that the Ninja Turtles one? 114 00:07:16,694 --> 00:07:22,058 No, it's not, no, it's the one by Tecmo Koei, it's like open world. 115 00:07:22,098 --> 00:07:26,841 It's an open world-like game, like based right before the Meiji restoration. 116 00:07:28,910 --> 00:07:31,650 What there is there is a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. 117 00:07:31,650 --> 00:07:34,870 The last Ronin is a movie that's coming out apparently. 118 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:35,810 That's why I was confused. 119 00:07:35,810 --> 00:07:37,770 Sorry about that. 120 00:07:38,229 --> 00:07:39,266 All good, 121 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:41,232 Okay. 122 00:07:42,018 --> 00:07:42,759 That's... 123 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:44,599 anything else you're doing, Hi-Tech? 124 00:07:47,102 --> 00:07:49,583 thinking about what videos I should be making. 125 00:07:50,764 --> 00:07:51,254 Yeah, what? 126 00:07:51,254 --> 00:07:53,278 That is such a good question. 127 00:07:53,278 --> 00:07:54,806 Ugh, yeah. 128 00:07:56,472 --> 00:08:00,793 kind of that time, we need some valve to drop some good stuff. 129 00:08:00,793 --> 00:08:03,618 good steam deck 2 announcement please. 130 00:08:04,286 --> 00:08:07,519 That's happening for a year at least. 131 00:08:07,626 --> 00:08:08,524 What'd say Gardner. 132 00:08:08,524 --> 00:08:12,098 I was gonna say I could take a Steam Deck 2 announcement right now. 133 00:08:12,098 --> 00:08:12,846 Yes, please. 134 00:08:12,846 --> 00:08:14,106 Please. 135 00:08:16,546 --> 00:08:18,826 I take SteamOS updates. 136 00:08:19,086 --> 00:08:20,346 Like, good ones. 137 00:08:20,346 --> 00:08:21,398 really good ones. 138 00:08:21,398 --> 00:08:21,794 Yeah. 139 00:08:21,794 --> 00:08:24,219 This month, this month, it's coming this month. 140 00:08:24,219 --> 00:08:30,914 Because they said that it's coming before the Lenovo Legion Go S Steam Edition ships in May, right? 141 00:08:30,914 --> 00:08:32,460 So it's gotta be this month. 142 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:33,287 Hmm. 143 00:08:33,798 --> 00:08:35,519 Yeah, it will be limited though. 144 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:51,010 It's gonna be Yeah, they're in what alpha right now the next version so I I wouldn't like if you if you're planning on using steamOS for like an Nvidia GPU like good luck with that 145 00:08:52,251 --> 00:09:01,597 I I had too much issues with my with doing it through not with steamOS but with Bazzite and I I gave up on that 146 00:09:01,806 --> 00:09:03,737 I ran into the exact same problem. 147 00:09:03,737 --> 00:09:16,693 The TV that I've got just over there has a computer hooked up to it and that computer has an NVIDIA GPU and I tried installing Bazite on it and it worked flawlessly and then the 148 00:09:16,693 --> 00:09:19,054 next time that I rebooted, black screen. 149 00:09:19,054 --> 00:09:20,554 I couldn't do anything. 150 00:09:20,555 --> 00:09:25,357 So I ended up having to wipe it and go back to Windows, which is unfortunate. 151 00:09:25,357 --> 00:09:31,760 And know somebody's gonna be like, well Bill, you cry this distro and this distro and this distro? 152 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:32,745 want to learn all that stuff. 153 00:09:32,745 --> 00:09:35,277 I just want to turn it on and not have to think. 154 00:09:35,848 --> 00:09:51,796 you know the thing is with with alternative like if you go with like bazlight for nvidia it's not it's not on bazlight to make the the steam os launcher like show up and film you 155 00:09:51,796 --> 00:09:56,661 know in big picture mode that's the word i'm looking for like big picture mode like works but it doesn't 156 00:09:57,322 --> 00:10:06,605 the overall thing doesn't work like as SteamOS does where it has like the the separate session, right, that has just big picture mode full screen exclusive. 157 00:10:07,426 --> 00:10:10,197 And it's not Bazite's fault, that's on Valve to fix. 158 00:10:10,197 --> 00:10:12,097 So there's a lot of like weirdness. 159 00:10:12,097 --> 00:10:18,450 I have a Nvidia GPU on my living room PC and I have issues like the same kind of issues. 160 00:10:18,734 --> 00:10:21,134 Is it my malphors on Nvidia? 161 00:10:21,366 --> 00:10:22,586 It's on Valve. 162 00:10:23,117 --> 00:10:30,913 well, yeah, I mean, it is on Nvidia to some degree because they don't really do things a standard way on Linux, which is really annoying. 163 00:10:33,074 --> 00:10:35,734 I haven't had the black screen issue. 164 00:10:35,734 --> 00:10:37,234 Now you can't let it sleep. 165 00:10:37,234 --> 00:10:50,314 Like if you let it sleep, at least with my 3090 and you bring it back up big picture mode or however they does it, it will just get all screwed up like artifact D not that it is 166 00:10:50,314 --> 00:10:51,054 weird. 167 00:10:51,134 --> 00:10:51,974 But yikes. 168 00:10:51,974 --> 00:11:01,954 If you turn it off and turn on every time mine worked, it's just if I play was I was playing games like It Takes Two with my son and it would just it crashed. 169 00:11:02,166 --> 00:11:03,647 It crashed at every... 170 00:11:03,647 --> 00:11:04,588 and then I bring... 171 00:11:04,588 --> 00:11:09,553 it worked fine even running it on Mac OS with cross... 172 00:11:09,654 --> 00:11:10,813 with... 173 00:11:10,955 --> 00:11:11,415 what is this? 174 00:11:11,415 --> 00:11:12,276 Not crossfire. 175 00:11:12,276 --> 00:11:17,841 Crossover or on Windows, but for some reason, Bazai and those Nvidia drivers, 176 00:11:18,454 --> 00:11:21,472 Yeah, it's not just it's not just Bazite though. 177 00:11:21,472 --> 00:11:24,468 mean, I have Ubuntu on this machine. 178 00:11:25,420 --> 00:11:30,775 Yeah, definitely, it's Nvidia. 179 00:11:30,775 --> 00:11:33,037 I'm not meaning to throw Bazite under the bus. 180 00:11:33,037 --> 00:11:43,527 I'm just letting people know, because that's an easy, the cool thing about Bazite and SteamOS, it's an easy way for normies or people that aren't as typical to go into the 181 00:11:43,527 --> 00:11:46,099 Linux world to get into it, right? 182 00:11:46,099 --> 00:11:51,053 And so, if they have bad experiences, it kind of sours at Bill's experience. 183 00:11:51,214 --> 00:11:52,454 Yeah, and I'm a normie. 184 00:11:52,454 --> 00:11:53,434 don't I don't know. 185 00:11:53,434 --> 00:11:56,474 I don't know anything about Linux like. 186 00:11:57,514 --> 00:12:02,014 OK, I wasn't sure I said assholes earlier and I was like, oh no, what did I do? 187 00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:16,530 But yeah, man, I fucking hate Nvidia and I think we've said this a number of times in this podcast For number of different reasons too and like can we really trust Nvidia though? 188 00:12:16,530 --> 00:12:21,810 They removed PhysX 32-bit support from the 50 series cards 189 00:12:21,955 --> 00:12:22,727 Yeah. 190 00:12:23,466 --> 00:12:39,690 No, I don't know for years and video was my go-to because I used to be a streamer and they had that chip on the The 2070 cards and up that would automatically That would you could 191 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:48,507 use as an encoder chip to encode your stream and it wouldn't be using your PC And it just made everything so much easier. 192 00:12:48,507 --> 00:12:49,878 Now I don't stream anymore. 193 00:12:49,878 --> 00:12:51,549 So what do I care? 194 00:12:52,051 --> 00:12:54,436 Even if I was streaming, I just stream from my Mac. 195 00:12:54,924 --> 00:13:00,300 I think AMD now has an equivalent chip, because I know, I think you're talking about the NVEC encoder, right? 196 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:04,524 Yeah, and maybe they do, but I don't stream anymore, so it doesn't affect. 197 00:13:04,524 --> 00:13:09,099 Yeah, I mean you can use it also for rendering your videos too. 198 00:13:09,260 --> 00:13:17,370 And even like Intel CPUs have that kind of hardware, like dedicated ASIC for that kind of stuff. 199 00:13:19,433 --> 00:13:20,214 No, no, not. 200 00:13:20,214 --> 00:13:22,454 Yeah, it's a more recent thing, but. 201 00:13:22,454 --> 00:13:25,237 Now it's big deal, but yeah, a lot of them have it now. 202 00:13:25,237 --> 00:13:29,400 so, I'll at least main, bigger one. 203 00:13:29,801 --> 00:13:40,480 I've heard that a good idea if you're like going back, if you're going into streaming is to, you know, have your dedicated gaming GPU and then maybe have like one of those new 204 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:46,876 Intel CPUs for AV1 coding as well separately. 205 00:13:46,876 --> 00:13:50,190 And I've heard that's a good, I've heard that's a good setup, but. 206 00:13:50,190 --> 00:13:54,902 Honestly, think a better setup would be get the cheapest Mac mini you can find. 207 00:13:54,902 --> 00:14:05,938 Have that be your encoder and then you can just play on your regular PC because the series chips are just stupidly good. 208 00:14:06,931 --> 00:14:15,377 I am really curious about support for capture cards on the Macs. 209 00:14:15,377 --> 00:14:16,978 They're fairly decent. 210 00:14:17,138 --> 00:14:28,146 If it's a mainstream, I'm going be trying it out some more because going into my update, guess what I bought over the week, I'm successfully turning into Mac Revealed channel now. 211 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:39,354 Oh my Mac reveals The tariffs scared the shit out of me to where I'm like I want to get a Mac studio this year or like a MacBook Couldn't decide and I wanted it to be enough to 212 00:14:39,354 --> 00:14:45,374 where I could do my game development on it and be beefy So I went ahead and bought a Mac studio. 213 00:14:45,654 --> 00:14:55,874 Oh I got I got the m3 So m4 so 214 00:14:56,686 --> 00:15:10,726 Because the way they do the fusion chips, to get the higher end Mac Studio, they do M3s that are fused together, so they have two to get the higher core count and higher 215 00:15:10,726 --> 00:15:12,386 bandwidth, actually, memory bandwidth. 216 00:15:12,386 --> 00:15:14,946 so, yeah, it's really bizarre. 217 00:15:14,946 --> 00:15:19,086 I don't think they have it baked into the M4, so they had to redo the M3 chip. 218 00:15:19,086 --> 00:15:21,506 I'm getting really into the... 219 00:15:21,506 --> 00:15:25,626 Yeah, I get what you're saying, but yeah, they don't have an M4 Ultra. 220 00:15:25,740 --> 00:15:37,939 they don't have you don't have that so i got the three i got them to i got the lake price your one with ninety six gigs of ram which is nice i'm i'm well i've been using and i can 221 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,401 game have my games 222 00:15:41,204 --> 00:15:52,066 up and i got the clothes down my game them working on and this is great that's a great love and very cool games on it are pretty decent like crossover does a good job of like it 223 00:15:52,066 --> 00:16:03,597 uses proton and wine to do emulation that you also use bottles i think it uses bottles under the but if you know if you've ever used like done some type of Linux 224 00:16:05,164 --> 00:16:06,765 Is it called just Bottles on Linux? 225 00:16:06,765 --> 00:16:07,475 can't remember. 226 00:16:07,475 --> 00:16:09,476 Yeah, it's Bottles on Linux. 227 00:16:09,476 --> 00:16:11,657 You can also use it your SteamRick as well. 228 00:16:11,918 --> 00:16:13,719 Yep, yep, yep. 229 00:16:13,719 --> 00:16:15,840 That's where I've done a lot of that, using Bottles. 230 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,033 so it uses Bottles to facilitate different games or environments, right? 231 00:16:21,033 --> 00:16:23,424 And setting up the environment virtually. 232 00:16:23,744 --> 00:16:26,505 And it's working great so far. 233 00:16:27,182 --> 00:16:37,522 I will I'm probably going to have some fun with my 3090 because I'm going to set it up in such a way to where I'm going try really hard to make it so it doesn't lag but I want to 234 00:16:37,522 --> 00:16:44,002 be able to use it between my Mac Studio and my TV out there so I'm exploring a lot of different options with that. 235 00:16:44,002 --> 00:16:52,802 I'm going to have a fun year this year with just screwing around with my Windows machine and being able to place the more spicier games on it. 236 00:16:53,502 --> 00:16:56,503 I'm just honestly my room's not overheating. 237 00:16:56,503 --> 00:17:00,655 This 3090 I could probably render all day and my room wouldn't heat up. 238 00:17:00,655 --> 00:17:03,267 It's such an efficient chip. 239 00:17:03,267 --> 00:17:05,678 So there's a bunch of reasons. 240 00:17:05,678 --> 00:17:07,308 know I'm just... 241 00:17:08,889 --> 00:17:10,302 I don't mean to be a fanboy. 242 00:17:10,302 --> 00:17:16,773 I used to not like Apple that much, but I fully dove into that sphere for productivity reasons. 243 00:17:19,244 --> 00:17:22,429 I will try not to mention in the future as much. 244 00:17:25,538 --> 00:17:27,541 Yeah, Gardner, what have you been up to? 245 00:17:28,333 --> 00:17:39,197 So in terms of games, I haven't been playing a lot but I have been diving deep into Connections at the New York Times stupid game and today really pissed me off. 246 00:17:39,197 --> 00:17:45,819 You probably can't see that Yeah, whatever Today's today's was really annoying. 247 00:17:45,819 --> 00:17:47,680 It's a it's a word puzzle game. 248 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,053 I play it with Emily My girlfriend and a lot of fun. 249 00:17:52,053 --> 00:17:52,822 Yeah 250 00:17:52,822 --> 00:17:53,848 that one. 251 00:17:54,092 --> 00:18:01,866 Yeah, it's the one where like if there's like a grid of four by four words and you have to like find the words that pair together. 252 00:18:01,866 --> 00:18:02,846 It's kind of fun. 253 00:18:02,846 --> 00:18:04,987 I've also been playing a GameCube. 254 00:18:04,987 --> 00:18:07,962 If you can't tell, I've got my GameCube controllers over here. 255 00:18:07,962 --> 00:18:23,435 I got an SD to SB2 adapter, which lets me dump my collection of games onto an SD card, which is plugged into the SB2 port. 256 00:18:24,076 --> 00:18:25,957 Serial port 2 on there. 257 00:18:25,957 --> 00:18:33,163 So it's pretty neat and it works really well with Swiss so you can launch your games really quickly. 258 00:18:33,785 --> 00:18:42,471 I've actually been playing so much Game Keeper I'm thinking about getting a mod chip for it because I have to keep my... 259 00:18:45,524 --> 00:18:49,638 action replay in the disk drive in order to launch the games. 260 00:18:49,699 --> 00:18:55,265 So I'm thinking I might just go with a mod chip and then not have to worry about the action replay. 261 00:18:56,152 --> 00:18:57,326 That's really cool. 262 00:18:58,094 --> 00:19:03,072 Are you gonna get the Switch to GameCube controllers? 263 00:19:05,388 --> 00:19:14,967 Man, I've looked at those and I love the GameCube controller, but they're impractical to play modern games with unless they're designed for the GameCube controller. 264 00:19:14,967 --> 00:19:21,793 So unless the analog sticks are clickable, and I don't think I'm going to get one. 265 00:19:22,126 --> 00:19:38,026 They might be they have X they have a lot of the extra buttons that you wouldn't see on an actual game controller that they have They have was L the whatever L one is Yeah, they 266 00:19:38,026 --> 00:19:44,206 have they have that so I'm sure at the very least they'll have clickable sticks, but I don't know it's this Nintendo 267 00:19:45,114 --> 00:19:54,242 Yeah, I mean they didn't add clickable sticks to the N64 controller, so I mean they might not have thought that might not have been possible, but I don't know. 268 00:19:54,242 --> 00:19:55,323 We'll see. 269 00:19:56,664 --> 00:19:58,589 I do love the GameCube controller though. 270 00:19:58,589 --> 00:20:04,821 Yeah, that'd be definitely a welcome addition if you're going to use it for other purposes. 271 00:20:04,874 --> 00:20:06,775 Okay, anything else? 272 00:20:06,775 --> 00:20:10,997 Anything else guys like no surprise amazing thing that happened this week? 273 00:20:10,997 --> 00:20:11,817 Okay. 274 00:20:11,817 --> 00:20:22,662 Well, I can tell you right now one thing was that like we mentioned earlier the podcast especially on the Fediverse has been doing really well and as things to you guys 275 00:20:22,762 --> 00:20:31,206 Subscribing so make sure to subscribe on YouTube off all our SS feed We'll throw some I'll throw some stuff up on the screen so you can I don't have to read everything out But you 276 00:20:31,206 --> 00:20:34,788 can also fall engage with us on the Fediverse comment through it on things 277 00:20:34,788 --> 00:20:35,418 on the Fediverse. 278 00:20:35,418 --> 00:20:38,291 you don't know what the Fediverse is, go Google it. 279 00:20:38,291 --> 00:20:44,766 a really cool piece of, I guess, tech or protocol. 280 00:20:44,766 --> 00:20:51,881 yeah, yeah, that makes it easier for us to communicate and have it be more decent, like decentralized in a way. 281 00:20:51,881 --> 00:20:52,590 So yeah. 282 00:20:52,590 --> 00:20:52,900 Okay. 283 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:57,652 The one thing about that, because we mentioned that last week was really good. 284 00:20:58,033 --> 00:21:04,837 So two weeks ago, we had 2620 downloads from the podcast, the audio feed. 285 00:21:04,837 --> 00:21:08,519 And last week we had 2220 downloads. 286 00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:11,910 So it was almost the number one last week was almost number one. 287 00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:14,376 And the week before that was number one, which is pretty cool. 288 00:21:14,376 --> 00:21:15,649 Hell yeah. 289 00:21:15,649 --> 00:21:17,453 Hell yeah. 290 00:21:17,453 --> 00:21:19,056 gotta punish Gardner's server. 291 00:21:19,056 --> 00:21:20,950 Like it's all being hosted on his server. 292 00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:21,943 You gotta punish it. 293 00:21:21,943 --> 00:21:23,646 You gotta get in the territory. 294 00:21:25,130 --> 00:21:26,644 that is so much work. 295 00:21:26,644 --> 00:21:32,028 It's it's there's a great app that does it that handles most of it for me. 296 00:21:32,028 --> 00:21:34,750 So it's just but it is like a bandwidth thing. 297 00:21:34,750 --> 00:21:39,222 So if you guys want to like make this cost me a lot of money, go download the episodes. 298 00:21:39,222 --> 00:21:42,013 Yeah, if you hate Gardner, just watch the podcast. 299 00:21:42,013 --> 00:21:42,874 Yeah. 300 00:21:43,399 --> 00:21:55,389 Listen to the podcast if you hate me because that will cost me buddy Last episode had over two terabytes of downloads 301 00:22:02,076 --> 00:22:03,979 Switch to mono, you guys. 302 00:22:03,982 --> 00:22:05,242 We are mono. 303 00:22:05,242 --> 00:22:11,622 I gave HiTech so much crap one time because he uploaded a stereo version at like 192 kilobits. 304 00:22:11,622 --> 00:22:12,982 Do you remember that, HiTech? 305 00:22:13,046 --> 00:22:15,726 Yeah, I think that was like one or two gigs. 306 00:22:15,726 --> 00:22:24,270 Yeah, it was was huge it was like three or four hundred megabytes and normally it's like 50 So I was like we got to make sure we do this, right? 307 00:22:24,270 --> 00:22:28,155 the file sizes are like what between 40 and 60 megabytes. 308 00:22:28,155 --> 00:22:29,624 60 megabytes now, yeah. 309 00:22:30,102 --> 00:22:42,848 my god, so you guys, the people who watch this on the Fetiverse are gonna be very angry with me because I upload the, like, the audio show goes to Patreon and I put video on both 310 00:22:43,088 --> 00:22:50,261 Spotify, for my show, both on Spotify and YouTube and the file size is just stupid high, ridiculously high. 311 00:22:50,261 --> 00:22:53,193 I could not imagine hosting that kind of thing. 312 00:22:53,193 --> 00:23:00,056 Audio, I could probably figure that out, but I just can't be bothered to not, to use a, 313 00:23:00,056 --> 00:23:05,385 centralized thing or to do to roll my own seems like too much work 314 00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:08,387 is a little different more for discovery and communicating, right? 315 00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:09,238 Yeah. 316 00:23:09,238 --> 00:23:09,688 protocol. 317 00:23:09,688 --> 00:23:09,958 Yeah. 318 00:23:09,958 --> 00:23:15,581 Where RSS feeds to host a podcast is really easy. 319 00:23:15,786 --> 00:23:16,777 Right, used to do it. 320 00:23:16,777 --> 00:23:23,556 I used to do an RSS only podcast, but then Spotify just does it all for me so I don't have to. 321 00:23:23,556 --> 00:23:25,939 And they're not, that's centralized. 322 00:23:25,939 --> 00:23:26,543 That sucks. 323 00:23:26,543 --> 00:23:27,241 It's bad. 324 00:23:27,241 --> 00:23:27,898 I shouldn't 325 00:23:27,898 --> 00:23:30,681 You know how their interface works. 326 00:23:31,122 --> 00:23:36,667 Gardner has some open source software that he installed on one of his servers. 327 00:23:36,768 --> 00:23:38,630 Servers or whatever. 328 00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:40,451 That allows to do pretty much the same thing. 329 00:23:40,451 --> 00:23:45,636 I'd actually say it has a little bit more options, yeah, it also includes the Fidiverse. 330 00:23:46,766 --> 00:23:47,746 It's pretty neat. 331 00:23:47,746 --> 00:23:49,306 It's called Castapod. 332 00:23:49,306 --> 00:24:01,026 ties into the Fediverse and it creates RSS feeds and it also handles distributing it to the various other platforms like Apple Podcasts and Spotify and stuff. 333 00:24:01,026 --> 00:24:02,426 So it's pretty awesome. 334 00:24:04,006 --> 00:24:06,208 I'm just a huge geek about this stuff. 335 00:24:06,208 --> 00:24:08,272 I know, I know you are, and that's what I really... 336 00:24:08,272 --> 00:24:09,898 I mean somebody has to be. 337 00:24:09,898 --> 00:24:10,496 Yeah. 338 00:24:10,496 --> 00:24:11,648 Make the fox do it. 339 00:24:11,648 --> 00:24:14,092 The fox should probably know how to do this. 340 00:24:14,146 --> 00:24:14,726 That's okay. 341 00:24:14,726 --> 00:24:17,738 I don't want to have to ask anybody to do anything. 342 00:24:17,738 --> 00:24:26,774 I just handle it all myself because I am a customer of the big company apparently and I'm okay with that even though I shouldn't be. 343 00:24:27,158 --> 00:24:30,040 I yeah, I mean, it is your choice at the end of the day. 344 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,973 Also, by the way, Bill runs a pretty cool podcast as well. 345 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:41,828 I've listened to a couple of episodes and they have a very stacked cast, some of whom have shown up on here. 346 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:47,151 Yeah, all of them except for Cryobite. 347 00:24:47,912 --> 00:24:49,854 Cryobite's doing all right, man. 348 00:24:49,854 --> 00:24:54,096 I spoke with him on Discord the other day and he's doing all right. 349 00:24:54,217 --> 00:24:56,037 I guess the only issue, yeah. 350 00:24:56,746 --> 00:25:01,422 Lots going on with him though, still working 80 hour a week so it's just crazy to me. 351 00:25:04,238 --> 00:25:18,538 been there done that don't want to do that ever again what is he is he an engineer I think he's an IT or he's an IT okay I'd have to double check to be honest so he's one of those 352 00:25:18,538 --> 00:25:31,518 well before you double check let's let's get into our first topic yeah yeah so we had fun 353 00:25:31,794 --> 00:25:39,001 Punishing Gardner with all the downloads and all that and will hopefully punish them even more this time like we need to have like a punish meter or something like that for you 354 00:25:39,001 --> 00:25:42,174 gardener like To make it like gamified to make it really fun. 355 00:25:42,174 --> 00:25:44,265 Yeah, like how far can you? 356 00:25:44,265 --> 00:25:58,137 But if you're into the like indie or double a scene I feel like that's more even though this is a triple I like I feel like there's a lot of 357 00:25:58,762 --> 00:26:05,566 indie games in this, the Triple I initiative just happened this week. 358 00:26:05,566 --> 00:26:06,966 did happen this week. 359 00:26:07,787 --> 00:26:09,188 was on Thursday. 360 00:26:09,428 --> 00:26:10,338 I didn't watch it. 361 00:26:10,338 --> 00:26:13,180 ended up being really busy in order to watch it. 362 00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:16,432 But I am going to share my screen now. 363 00:26:17,312 --> 00:26:18,103 I like this one. 364 00:26:18,103 --> 00:26:20,614 This one seems like vaguely interesting. 365 00:26:20,914 --> 00:26:27,828 It's being developed by the guy that did the pixel art for Celeste, which it does have really nice pixel art. 366 00:26:28,786 --> 00:26:35,254 And the music's being done by Disasterpeace who did the music for Hyper Light Drifter, if you guys played that. 367 00:26:35,362 --> 00:26:37,953 Hyper Light Drifter was my favorite game that year. 368 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,559 It's really I really like the color palette of this 369 00:26:41,632 --> 00:26:42,503 Yeah. 370 00:26:43,488 --> 00:26:46,444 It's very muted and I like it. 371 00:26:46,444 --> 00:26:50,826 It reminds me of like playing games on my EGA back in the day. 372 00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:55,506 Yeah, I was going to say it has kind of a retro PC feel, but tempered, right? 373 00:26:55,506 --> 00:27:02,710 Like the EGA graphics palette was harsh, and this is a little more mellow. 374 00:27:03,658 --> 00:27:05,060 I'd take this one. 375 00:27:05,154 --> 00:27:06,015 Yeah. 376 00:27:07,205 --> 00:27:07,936 I, 377 00:27:08,386 --> 00:27:09,588 What is this one? 378 00:27:09,588 --> 00:27:11,775 I didn't see what they call it. 379 00:27:11,775 --> 00:27:12,506 Never way. 380 00:27:12,506 --> 00:27:14,038 There it is. 381 00:27:14,038 --> 00:27:15,440 Wishlist now. 382 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,886 So what I should mention if you wishlist on Steam, that actually helps developers in the Steam algorithm. 383 00:27:20,886 --> 00:27:22,048 So yes, it does. 384 00:27:22,048 --> 00:27:26,773 really want to support a developer, that's the best way to do it outside of pre-ordering, I guess. 385 00:27:29,398 --> 00:27:32,140 Have you guys played Deep Rock Galactic? 386 00:27:34,402 --> 00:27:34,973 have not. 387 00:27:34,973 --> 00:27:36,503 It's really fun. 388 00:27:37,545 --> 00:27:42,128 We'll have to do a team building exercise for the podcast sometime. 389 00:27:42,309 --> 00:27:47,573 That could be a that'd be a fun special streamer or something like that as to play this while we chat about something. 390 00:27:47,573 --> 00:27:58,321 the I don't know about necessarily Deep Rock Galactic, Rogue Corps, but all the previous are the original Deep Rock Galactic is just fun. 391 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:08,354 I I tried the demo for Deep Rock Galactic Survivors, though, during like one of the next fest, like not the last one, but the one before that, think. 392 00:28:08,394 --> 00:28:11,455 Yeah, but that's a very different game because it's a survivors. 393 00:28:11,455 --> 00:28:20,689 It's like a vampire survivor kind of style where this Deep Rock Galactic is originally a mining game. 394 00:28:20,689 --> 00:28:23,200 If you yearn for the mines, like you go for this. 395 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,282 If you want to upgrade from Minecraft, you go for this game because you get to be a dwarf. 396 00:28:28,910 --> 00:28:35,730 You get a badass dwarf that gets to mine through and escape big baddies and also take them on. 397 00:28:36,210 --> 00:28:37,070 It is really fun. 398 00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:38,530 It's a really fun cooperative game. 399 00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:39,390 love these types of games. 400 00:28:39,390 --> 00:28:41,190 It's up to like four player cooperative. 401 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:44,090 And so this looks like what? 402 00:28:45,090 --> 00:28:49,330 And if you really like dwarves, you can upgrade the Dwarf Fortress afterwards. 403 00:28:50,050 --> 00:28:51,310 That's true. 404 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:54,050 Who is the Dwarf Master here? 405 00:28:54,370 --> 00:28:58,190 It was either you or Gardner, because I was the Ninja Master here. 406 00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:59,090 Yeah, you were the... 407 00:28:59,090 --> 00:29:01,450 I can't remember if it was me or Gardner, but that's funny. 408 00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:01,810 Yeah, so... 409 00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:02,690 it was Gardner. 410 00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:05,430 So what happened, it was during the Steam... 411 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:07,110 Can you pause this for a second? 412 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:11,550 So what happened during the last state, what was it, year in review for Steam? 413 00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:12,590 I had six... 414 00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:12,970 Oh yeah. 415 00:29:12,970 --> 00:29:18,450 It tells you your six must play genres of games or like Steam tags or whatever, and one of them was Ninja. 416 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:22,070 Now, Gardner was sports and you were dwarf. 417 00:29:22,150 --> 00:29:22,270 Yes. 418 00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:25,454 I might have been dwarf and I played one dwarf and it was like... 419 00:29:25,454 --> 00:29:31,774 Deep Rock Galactic, but I only played it for like an hour that year, even though I played it a lot the previous year. 420 00:29:32,554 --> 00:29:33,414 It's. 421 00:29:33,414 --> 00:29:34,274 don't know, it's a good year. 422 00:29:34,274 --> 00:29:35,654 algorithm is funny. 423 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,141 Was yours most played sports because of doodlings? 424 00:29:41,622 --> 00:29:42,503 That's my thought. 425 00:29:42,503 --> 00:29:45,998 was like, is he over there playing PGA or is it because of doodlings? 426 00:29:45,998 --> 00:29:50,618 Yeah, was Tiger Woods 2025 or whatever. 427 00:29:50,721 --> 00:29:54,525 yeah, you should talk about how Bill's also in Dude Links too. 428 00:29:54,614 --> 00:30:05,142 Yeah, dude, Bill is one of the announcers and dude links and he graciously provided like I think the best voiceover at least compared to me and Emily. 429 00:30:05,142 --> 00:30:06,134 It was so fun. 430 00:30:06,134 --> 00:30:11,122 If you ever make more games and you need a voice, I freaking loved doing that. 431 00:30:11,122 --> 00:30:12,270 It was so fun. 432 00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:12,783 That's awesome. 433 00:30:12,783 --> 00:30:13,838 I'm glad to hear that. 434 00:30:13,838 --> 00:30:16,238 Bill sounds like legit sportscaster. 435 00:30:16,778 --> 00:30:20,398 He should be at ESPN right now, not in our podcast. 436 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,493 Yes. 437 00:30:22,806 --> 00:30:25,006 anything about eSports. 438 00:30:26,309 --> 00:30:27,521 look at him. 439 00:30:28,673 --> 00:30:30,294 he got the ball over to the thing. 440 00:30:30,294 --> 00:30:31,219 Great job. 441 00:30:31,219 --> 00:30:37,516 That's that's why you were so good at my game because it was it was kind of just making fun of like the artifice of sports 442 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:40,690 See, I'd watch it for that. 443 00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:45,890 don't I'm not a fan of sports, Yeah, it's Bill just invented his own sport. 444 00:30:45,890 --> 00:30:47,770 He could be the sportscaster. 445 00:30:48,730 --> 00:30:57,702 That's right Instead of Madden, it'd be Bill just bill bill 2028 or something like that 446 00:30:59,299 --> 00:31:00,416 Call it billball. 447 00:31:00,416 --> 00:31:02,446 Alright, yeah. 448 00:31:02,446 --> 00:31:03,779 Okay, tears of metal. 449 00:31:05,446 --> 00:31:18,459 When I first saw this my initial reaction is this looks like Dynasty Warriors and I freaking loved muso games And that's what that's what I got from this where like you're 450 00:31:18,459 --> 00:31:25,937 just running up and you are attacking and you're knocking down 38 guys with us with one swing your sword Mixing with rogue like elements. 451 00:31:25,937 --> 00:31:27,749 It looks like from what you're picking up. 452 00:31:27,749 --> 00:31:28,752 It looks cool 453 00:31:28,752 --> 00:31:30,243 looks like it, yeah. 454 00:31:30,464 --> 00:31:33,326 Not that you mentioned Dinosaur Warriors, that's a good one. 455 00:31:33,347 --> 00:31:36,269 Open Beta is available now in case you guys want to play it. 456 00:31:37,451 --> 00:31:39,192 It ends on the 17th. 457 00:31:39,913 --> 00:31:42,295 Definitely, I love the style of that last one. 458 00:31:42,536 --> 00:31:44,837 And this one is Sacrifier. 459 00:31:45,118 --> 00:31:48,741 I looked into it because I wasn't sure what kind of game this was, but it's a JRPG. 460 00:31:50,560 --> 00:32:00,642 I kind of love this like 2d 3d mashup art style like the pixel art meets 3d kind of thing 461 00:32:00,642 --> 00:32:04,053 Yeah, like what Square's been doing since the Switch one. 462 00:32:04,053 --> 00:32:06,584 Yeah, that is good art style. 463 00:32:08,105 --> 00:32:09,505 Yeah, if you're gonna... 464 00:32:09,846 --> 00:32:14,178 You gotta differentiate yourself out there. 465 00:32:14,178 --> 00:32:25,892 gotta show that there's a reason to play that it doesn't look the same, I like the way that some of these more indie-style games are going. 466 00:32:27,573 --> 00:32:28,938 Because it definitely looks fun. 467 00:32:28,938 --> 00:32:30,534 actually is... 468 00:32:31,439 --> 00:32:41,863 I like JRPGs, but I just they've been feeling very same Z lately and so Well, they all try to harken back to like Chrono Trigger and that's the one that they always mention I know 469 00:32:41,863 --> 00:32:45,761 well that or if it's a 3d full 3d They try to look like Final Fantasy. 470 00:32:45,761 --> 00:32:47,016 I'm like I have Final Fantasy. 471 00:32:47,016 --> 00:32:56,410 In fact, I'm sick of Final Fantasy because they're not really evolving like they used to Endless what was this endless legend to? 472 00:32:56,558 --> 00:32:58,398 I'm not really an RTS kind of guy. 473 00:32:58,398 --> 00:33:01,638 I know this sounds like blasphemy because Gardner is. 474 00:33:03,878 --> 00:33:04,318 But... 475 00:33:04,318 --> 00:33:06,378 Well, we all have our different play styles. 476 00:33:06,638 --> 00:33:07,478 Yeah. 477 00:33:07,786 --> 00:33:09,929 Yeah, this one looks kind of neat to me. 478 00:33:09,929 --> 00:33:19,820 Honestly, I I'm more into like the sci fi or or the modern day, but kind of retro one a lot into or like some fantasy. 479 00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:24,825 didn't really care for any of the any of the Warcraft art. 480 00:33:25,017 --> 00:33:25,628 really? 481 00:33:25,628 --> 00:33:26,569 Yeah. 482 00:33:28,462 --> 00:33:29,808 Did you play three? 483 00:33:30,294 --> 00:33:32,398 I did, I didn't really care for that. 484 00:33:32,398 --> 00:33:34,641 Because I loved what they did with the hero units. 485 00:33:34,641 --> 00:33:40,209 think it made, it completely changed how you play RTS games and I really, really liked it. 486 00:33:40,436 --> 00:33:42,122 Yeah, that's how Dota was born. 487 00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:43,462 Yeah. 488 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:47,716 Yeah, I'm more of a diehard Command and Conquer fan. 489 00:33:50,041 --> 00:33:52,646 Nah, I don't really like Blizzard games. 490 00:33:52,646 --> 00:33:55,150 I've never played a that I liked. 491 00:33:55,150 --> 00:33:56,331 Starcrafts. 492 00:33:57,814 --> 00:34:02,694 I know a guy that played Starcraft at a high level in high school. 493 00:34:02,694 --> 00:34:03,574 He was Korean. 494 00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:05,694 He was a Korean exchange student. 495 00:34:06,034 --> 00:34:08,734 It sounds kind of racist, but it was true. 496 00:34:08,734 --> 00:34:10,714 He was actually really good at Starcraft. 497 00:34:10,714 --> 00:34:13,894 And he taught me how to play a little bit, but I'm not good at Starcraft. 498 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:17,720 Yeah, Starcraft's fun. 499 00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:19,391 I got the Diamond League. 500 00:34:21,973 --> 00:34:28,495 It's really hard to like if you take a break after getting up into the higher tiers, then you're pretty much screwed. 501 00:34:28,575 --> 00:34:32,157 Strategies change like month to month almost. 502 00:34:32,377 --> 00:34:38,359 am more of I do like 4X games where like they're all turn based and not real time strategy. 503 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,341 Those are fun, too, but those are time sucks for me. 504 00:34:41,341 --> 00:34:42,631 I can't play them. 505 00:34:42,943 --> 00:34:52,064 I really might see one of those I think this looks like the kind of game that I want to like and then I get it and I play it for a little bit and then I never turn it back on 506 00:34:52,064 --> 00:34:56,549 again and it's not because it's a bad game it's just they never hook me 507 00:34:56,685 --> 00:34:57,366 Yeah. 508 00:34:57,366 --> 00:34:59,790 Yeah, just the hook man. 509 00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:07,850 I like, I like 4x games, but I like, I really like Civilization 6, like that was super fun. 510 00:35:07,850 --> 00:35:10,410 And I've been meaning to get into Civil 7. 511 00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:18,910 But I can tell you right now, I prefer games like Rise of Nations, which is a real time 4x, right? 512 00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:19,642 Like 513 00:35:19,642 --> 00:35:21,288 is a good one. 514 00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:22,707 I've never played it. 515 00:35:22,828 --> 00:35:27,241 Rise of Nations is one of my favorite games ever made to this day. 516 00:35:27,241 --> 00:35:28,221 love it. 517 00:35:29,682 --> 00:35:35,766 It's real time and it's but it's like it's real time civilization is essentially and it's super fun. 518 00:35:36,246 --> 00:35:41,939 Yeah, kind of like Age of Empires, but they had like that was it was very much like Age of Empires, right? 519 00:35:41,939 --> 00:35:49,360 Yeah, but it it went much further into like contemporary and even into like future kind of speculative stuff. 520 00:35:49,366 --> 00:35:54,742 Right, even their art had like a steampunk like years and stuff on it, right? 521 00:35:54,742 --> 00:35:56,086 Am I remembering the right game? 522 00:35:56,086 --> 00:35:57,106 Yeah. 523 00:35:57,611 --> 00:36:04,475 was very brass, bronze, gold kind of mechanical stuff. 524 00:36:04,475 --> 00:36:06,306 And then they did Rise of Legends. 525 00:36:06,306 --> 00:36:08,077 Did you ever play Rise of Legends? 526 00:36:08,077 --> 00:36:09,324 The same studio. 527 00:36:09,324 --> 00:36:10,097 Yeah. 528 00:36:10,350 --> 00:36:11,967 I it was more fallacy based. 529 00:36:12,032 --> 00:36:15,774 It was was fantasy, but it was like it was like H.G. 530 00:36:15,774 --> 00:36:17,345 Wells fantasy stuff. 531 00:36:17,345 --> 00:36:19,766 It was so cool. 532 00:36:19,766 --> 00:36:27,409 And it's almost impossible to play now because of like the weird like Microsoft dependencies that they needed. 533 00:36:28,030 --> 00:36:35,734 But I've been meaning I have a copy of it and I've been meaning to like get it running in bottles and making a video about it because I love it so much. 534 00:36:36,984 --> 00:36:38,814 Did you ever play Total Annihilation? 535 00:36:38,814 --> 00:36:40,621 The last little bit on this. 536 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:42,850 No, I don't think I have. 537 00:36:42,926 --> 00:36:44,387 Total Annihilation. 538 00:36:45,248 --> 00:36:46,197 Go look up. 539 00:36:46,197 --> 00:36:47,029 It's a very different... 540 00:36:47,029 --> 00:36:52,674 It's a Hero RTS essentially, but it is very different. 541 00:36:52,935 --> 00:36:55,837 Loved the game, and there's a lot of different games. 542 00:36:55,837 --> 00:37:04,965 It's like a massive world RTS that had nukes and they're all robotics, and it was a really fun game. 543 00:37:06,227 --> 00:37:07,037 Yeah. 544 00:37:07,037 --> 00:37:08,038 What is this game here? 545 00:37:08,038 --> 00:37:10,470 This is Frost Rail. 546 00:37:10,548 --> 00:37:13,049 And honestly, this is actually a game I might pick up. 547 00:37:13,049 --> 00:37:19,922 I like survival games and bringing it into a train that travels around looks awesome. 548 00:37:20,698 --> 00:37:21,652 You know what this kind of reminds me of? 549 00:37:21,652 --> 00:37:26,905 It kind of reminds me of Snowpiercer, the movie with the Persevens in it. 550 00:37:26,905 --> 00:37:29,425 That was directed by Bong Joon-ho. 551 00:37:29,826 --> 00:37:30,886 Have you seen it, 552 00:37:31,874 --> 00:37:33,801 The train piercer or snow piercer? 553 00:37:33,801 --> 00:37:34,621 Yeah. 554 00:37:34,804 --> 00:37:36,960 Yeah, that was a really good movie. 555 00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:40,212 Yeah, I hear Mickey 17's really good too. 556 00:37:40,212 --> 00:37:41,316 I should probably watch that. 557 00:37:41,316 --> 00:37:42,850 Mickey 17's so good. 558 00:37:42,850 --> 00:37:49,018 I just got a notification that that's already on streaming because it did so terrible at the box office. 559 00:37:50,301 --> 00:37:58,993 Which I've heard good things about it, but also I've also heard that the trailer is not very indicative of what like the trailer makes it seem like an action movie and it is not 560 00:37:58,993 --> 00:38:00,364 an action movie. 561 00:38:01,398 --> 00:38:02,798 It's a bomb Juno. 562 00:38:02,798 --> 00:38:03,738 Yeah. 563 00:38:04,238 --> 00:38:05,958 I don't think there's. 564 00:38:05,958 --> 00:38:06,798 Oh, sorry. 565 00:38:06,878 --> 00:38:08,338 There's so much to it. 566 00:38:08,338 --> 00:38:09,798 I've I've watched it in theaters. 567 00:38:09,798 --> 00:38:14,678 I actually loved it, but it's still kind of my idea for my game that I'm doing. 568 00:38:14,978 --> 00:38:22,798 So those 3D prints like you essentially you have you store the consciousness essential like and sync it up. 569 00:38:22,798 --> 00:38:26,696 then every time he dies, because he like you have to watch the movie by. 570 00:38:26,696 --> 00:38:33,008 he's there to be expendable, but be but he can reprint them so he can keep on doing the dangerous stuff. 571 00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:37,749 And that's kind of the the route I'm going with my game. 572 00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:38,889 so. 573 00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:40,410 Yeah. 574 00:38:40,410 --> 00:38:41,110 Yeah. 575 00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:46,861 Bong Ju Ho's movies are oftentimes about classes of men like the difference between upper and lower class. 576 00:38:46,861 --> 00:38:50,552 I mean, parasites like the textbook definition of that. 577 00:38:51,753 --> 00:38:52,213 yeah. 578 00:38:52,213 --> 00:38:54,793 And also a snow piece to a little bit. 579 00:38:55,214 --> 00:38:56,474 No, this. 580 00:38:56,494 --> 00:39:00,894 Yeah, Mickey 17 definitely has the classes in it. 581 00:39:00,894 --> 00:39:10,034 It's got, it definitely feels like it makes fun of politicians almost nowadays in some form or fashion. 582 00:39:10,034 --> 00:39:13,053 if you like that, it's a really easy target to be fair. 583 00:39:13,194 --> 00:39:15,854 It's really easy and that's kind of how they do it. 584 00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:18,674 So yes, I definitely recommend watching it. 585 00:39:18,674 --> 00:39:25,190 I loved it though, but I'm a big sci fi fan and yeah. 586 00:39:25,976 --> 00:39:34,073 This is I'll say right now frost rail is definitely going on my wish list because I love what's going on here. 587 00:39:35,886 --> 00:39:38,178 It looks right up my alley. 588 00:39:38,178 --> 00:39:39,959 I love survival games like this. 589 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:51,820 It's like Choo Choo Charles, but like, you know, not horror, but not horror, not elder chore, elders or Choo Choo Charles is actually a fun game to stream at least. 590 00:39:55,286 --> 00:39:56,708 Ross radio. 591 00:39:57,372 --> 00:39:57,823 You know what? 592 00:39:57,823 --> 00:39:59,255 go ahead. 593 00:40:00,179 --> 00:40:04,710 I was I was I was going to talk about how this is Moonlighter 2. 594 00:40:05,524 --> 00:40:06,294 yeah. 595 00:40:06,676 --> 00:40:12,101 You know what game on this list I'm excited about is speed runners to speed. 596 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,446 If I could show you my screen, it's the top of my list. 597 00:40:15,446 --> 00:40:17,787 Yes, it is mine as well. 598 00:40:18,472 --> 00:40:21,574 I have not played the original Speedrunners. 599 00:40:22,246 --> 00:40:23,647 You're missing out. 600 00:40:23,887 --> 00:40:37,778 So my kind of games are simple arcade party games and RTSs and speed runners is a party game to its core. 601 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:46,865 So if you like having people over and playing like a local multiplayer party game, it's very, very exciting. 602 00:40:47,086 --> 00:40:48,406 Usually, yes. 603 00:40:48,406 --> 00:40:49,366 Yeah. 604 00:40:49,366 --> 00:40:53,106 Usually the party games I play when people are over are Mario Party. 605 00:40:53,506 --> 00:40:58,786 That's the main reason why I still have the Switch for Mario Party Jamboree. 606 00:40:58,786 --> 00:41:04,626 And let me tell you, some people say the Switch, some people say the Steam deck can really emulate the Switch. 607 00:41:04,626 --> 00:41:09,446 And yes, but I would never play Mario Party on an emulated like setup. 608 00:41:10,346 --> 00:41:12,706 Like any of the new ones, I mean. 609 00:41:12,986 --> 00:41:14,646 And have you tried syncing? 610 00:41:14,826 --> 00:41:16,334 Actually, can you even do that? 611 00:41:16,334 --> 00:41:19,103 Can you sync the Switch controllers? 612 00:41:19,246 --> 00:41:20,401 I think you can. 613 00:41:20,401 --> 00:41:21,296 they're compatible. 614 00:41:21,296 --> 00:41:23,828 Yeah, I don't know if they have all the features though. 615 00:41:23,828 --> 00:41:30,105 Yeah, that's what I'm worried about too, and I wouldn't I don't think I would even bother trying to be honest 616 00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:35,380 But if you haven't tried speed runners, speed runners two is going to be fantastic. 617 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:38,687 Think Mario Kart as a side scroller. 618 00:41:38,749 --> 00:41:40,078 That's what that game is. 619 00:41:40,078 --> 00:41:43,038 It's a 40 minute mark, James. 620 00:41:44,078 --> 00:41:47,018 you know that channel out of the street so you can like 621 00:41:49,411 --> 00:41:55,341 Well yeah there's channels but I don't know how to do it I'm here to speed it up. 622 00:41:55,341 --> 00:41:56,341 it is so fun. 623 00:41:56,341 --> 00:42:02,125 So yeah, you're basically you're running and you got to pick up weapons and you can use the weapons to attack the other people. 624 00:42:02,125 --> 00:42:13,253 And as you're running, at least in the first one, the the space that you're running in gets smaller and smaller and smaller and whoever is the furthest back gets cut off. 625 00:42:13,294 --> 00:42:19,397 And they get left behind and your job is to go through the same loop a billion times until you're the only one left. 626 00:42:19,522 --> 00:42:20,893 Dude, that's crazy. 627 00:42:21,806 --> 00:42:25,446 Yeah, and it really is you're just running in a loop. 628 00:42:25,466 --> 00:42:35,946 And there are sometimes like shortcuts you can take and you need to get ahead of everybody else because you'll get, you know, cut off the screen like Bill was saying. 629 00:42:36,946 --> 00:42:39,066 And it's just so much fun. 630 00:42:39,066 --> 00:42:42,806 And it becomes like that, like where the screen is closing in on you. 631 00:42:42,926 --> 00:42:45,426 And so for. 632 00:42:46,186 --> 00:42:48,786 If you're if it's if you got four people. 633 00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:54,618 and they're all running at the same time and it's just super competitive and it's so close. 634 00:42:54,618 --> 00:42:57,336 That's the kind of atmosphere that I love to be in. 635 00:42:57,336 --> 00:43:02,608 You know, it's just with tons of people around screaming and competing. 636 00:43:02,709 --> 00:43:03,710 It's great. 637 00:43:04,142 --> 00:43:12,242 So there is one thing I do want to talk about in regards to indie games and that's indie publishers. 638 00:43:12,282 --> 00:43:21,942 So one of the games on the list is Opus Prison Peak and it's being developed by Indie Studio but it's being published by Shueisha Publishing. 639 00:43:22,142 --> 00:43:30,102 And if you're not familiar with who they are, Shueisha is a massive company in Japan and they run Shonen Jump. 640 00:43:30,102 --> 00:43:33,994 They own the rights to Dragon Ball Z and like... 641 00:43:33,994 --> 00:43:36,816 Bleach and Naruto and One Piece and all of those. 642 00:43:37,358 --> 00:43:40,251 So they're a huge company publishing indie games. 643 00:43:40,251 --> 00:43:45,005 I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are on big indie publishers. 644 00:43:49,714 --> 00:44:04,555 I guess it doesn't I I don't I don't care who the publisher is as long as I get to play the game and maybe that's Naive of me, but if it's a game that is interesting then I the 645 00:44:04,555 --> 00:44:12,640 publishers the like I care about the developer the publishers just who's paying for stuff So I to me I don't really care 646 00:44:15,683 --> 00:44:18,829 James, a lot of the stream is just the post show. 647 00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:23,035 a lot of it is within the first hour. 648 00:44:24,458 --> 00:44:26,642 I don't even see it in the first one. 649 00:44:26,956 --> 00:44:28,374 Sorry, that's the train. 650 00:44:28,654 --> 00:44:30,714 It looks like an interesting game. 651 00:44:30,714 --> 00:44:34,634 Oh, and there's also BlazBlue Entry Effect. 652 00:44:35,274 --> 00:44:35,614 It's interesting. 653 00:44:35,614 --> 00:44:39,434 Yeah, it's a pretty fun road-like, but... 654 00:44:39,434 --> 00:44:45,974 And if you're a BlazBlue fan, it has nothing to do with the games, because the story is just its own thing. 655 00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:49,094 I mean, this game looks pretty interesting, though, to be honest. 656 00:44:49,094 --> 00:44:56,794 I'm not gonna complain about indie publishers, but I do notice that there are more and more of them, and I do like what they're doing, though, to be honest. 657 00:44:56,982 --> 00:45:01,879 I do like that they fund these indie games to let them make the game of their dreams. 658 00:45:05,022 --> 00:45:11,905 I think with with indie games, the appeal to me is that it's usually a singular vision, right? 659 00:45:11,905 --> 00:45:25,190 Like it's like an auteur game developer and and they get to put their passion on display and make a game that they would want to play and share that with the world. 660 00:45:25,271 --> 00:45:27,251 I love that about indie games. 661 00:45:27,451 --> 00:45:32,293 And there are some indie publishers that support that spirit as well, like 662 00:45:34,806 --> 00:45:38,975 I'm blanking Adult Swim Games does it quite a bit and so does Devolver, right? 663 00:45:38,975 --> 00:45:39,830 Big Mode. 664 00:45:39,830 --> 00:45:41,808 new new blood 665 00:45:42,702 --> 00:45:55,605 I think I've heard of New Blood, but when it comes to big, when it comes to like AAA game publishers, publishing games, or Indies specifically, I mean, it's okay, I think if 666 00:45:55,605 --> 00:46:11,540 they're like funding the development, but when it comes down to like where the money goes when the game goes on sale, if it doesn't mostly go to the Indie studio, I think that that 667 00:46:11,540 --> 00:46:12,494 really bothers me. 668 00:46:12,494 --> 00:46:22,234 Like, surely, like the publishers should recoup their losses, or their investment, I guess, and maybe like a generous portion above their investment. 669 00:46:22,234 --> 00:46:25,434 like after that, everything should go to the developer. 670 00:46:26,894 --> 00:46:29,122 I don't know, I just don't trust the publishers. 671 00:46:29,122 --> 00:46:35,289 really hard because you kind of need a publisher system if you want to build bigger games. 672 00:46:35,289 --> 00:46:36,790 Yeah. 673 00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:46,342 And it also helps because what usually happens like with the like with certain games, mean, let's what is it? 674 00:46:46,342 --> 00:46:50,144 I can't remember right now, but there's a couple of different games where 675 00:46:52,670 --> 00:47:05,236 Yeah, games where they started out became very successful and then they branch out and fund other indie studios and then become big and sometimes they, you become like Google do 676 00:47:05,236 --> 00:47:05,766 no evil. 677 00:47:05,766 --> 00:47:07,057 Now they just do evil. 678 00:47:07,057 --> 00:47:09,988 And so they do the opposite. 679 00:47:09,988 --> 00:47:17,902 But I do think we harp on publishers too much, but it's an easy target right now because they are an 680 00:47:18,472 --> 00:47:29,149 essentially doing what every big business is doing, which is short term gains in a destructive way to destroy and it destroys long term like IPs. 681 00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:31,291 There's a lot of IPs I'd love like Dead Space. 682 00:47:31,291 --> 00:47:33,713 It does well if they would budget out properly. 683 00:47:33,713 --> 00:47:38,536 They could keep on making money every year and the studio would love to do that. 684 00:47:38,577 --> 00:47:44,761 But no, maybe not make a game every year, but you know, make games over years and they'd be successful. 685 00:47:45,482 --> 00:47:46,502 And so 686 00:47:46,958 --> 00:47:58,098 They're trying to hit the biggest pot of gold and sacrificing all the way there, all the stuff that keeps them going. 687 00:47:58,278 --> 00:47:59,638 It's bizarre. 688 00:47:59,638 --> 00:48:05,578 I will say one of the biggest successes of this year was an indie game published by a big publisher. 689 00:48:06,118 --> 00:48:16,578 EA publishes all of Joseph Fehr's games and he developed Split Fiction, which from what I understand has done really well, critically and commercially. 690 00:48:18,254 --> 00:48:20,234 Spli-Fiction is awesome. 691 00:48:20,234 --> 00:48:21,574 I haven't played it yet. 692 00:48:21,574 --> 00:48:25,034 Yeah, I mean, but I've seen a ton of gameplay on it. 693 00:48:25,034 --> 00:48:25,274 Yeah. 694 00:48:25,274 --> 00:48:29,974 A lot of the bigger publishers are starting to fund Indian adventures. 695 00:48:29,974 --> 00:48:30,354 Yeah. 696 00:48:30,354 --> 00:48:33,134 Like EA, like I just mentioned, but also Square Enix, too. 697 00:48:33,134 --> 00:48:36,854 They funded a game I really like called Little Goody Two Shoes. 698 00:48:36,854 --> 00:48:40,934 And it's a great game with a unique art style. 699 00:48:40,934 --> 00:48:42,194 It's a horror game. 700 00:48:42,474 --> 00:48:47,786 So, oh, yeah, this is Deep Rock, the survivor game that I tried out the other day, the other next fest. 701 00:48:47,786 --> 00:48:48,586 It's... 702 00:48:49,168 --> 00:48:49,939 It was pretty fun. 703 00:48:49,939 --> 00:48:54,494 I'd much rather play this than Vampire Survivors. 704 00:48:54,494 --> 00:48:57,277 It actually looks like a game I'd play, just haven't got to it yet. 705 00:48:57,277 --> 00:48:58,709 Does it play good on the Steam Deck? 706 00:48:58,709 --> 00:49:01,462 Because this is one I'd play on the Steam Deck, hands down. 707 00:49:01,462 --> 00:49:05,696 Last time I tried it, it pretty well, the demo, I mean. 708 00:49:06,070 --> 00:49:08,802 My barber plays video games. 709 00:49:08,802 --> 00:49:13,396 And every time I talk to him, he's always telling me how great this game is. 710 00:49:13,397 --> 00:49:16,429 And I've you know, I've, I've looked at it before. 711 00:49:16,429 --> 00:49:17,300 I've never bought it. 712 00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:23,946 But watching the trailer during the triple eye video, I was like, Okay, I think they finally sold me. 713 00:49:23,946 --> 00:49:25,888 Like this game looks really fun. 714 00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:31,593 That would you mean the original D brock already played that that game? 715 00:49:31,593 --> 00:49:32,102 Okay, you 716 00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:32,908 the original one, 717 00:49:32,908 --> 00:49:36,127 Yes, that's a that's a wonderful game. 718 00:49:36,127 --> 00:49:38,853 This one I think they sold me on because 719 00:49:39,394 --> 00:49:41,717 There's a right there. 720 00:49:41,717 --> 00:49:44,140 damn it. 721 00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:50,928 All right, so at the end of that, like, Showcase said it was coming to Steam and Steam Deck specifically, which is interesting. 722 00:49:51,850 --> 00:49:58,417 Yeah, it shows Steam Deck as its own, like, discrete platform, guess, which is kind of interesting. 723 00:49:59,574 --> 00:50:07,261 I think that's a way that they can coattail their way to, know, you look at everybody wants that checkmark. 724 00:50:08,492 --> 00:50:09,425 Yeah, 725 00:50:10,031 --> 00:50:11,155 the same thing. 726 00:50:11,155 --> 00:50:12,658 Yeah, well, that's true. 727 00:50:12,741 --> 00:50:13,734 But everybody wants it. 728 00:50:13,734 --> 00:50:16,552 And that's that that's kind of the same thing, I think. 729 00:50:16,866 --> 00:50:20,867 You can just press the left and right arrows to fast forward a few seconds. 730 00:50:22,188 --> 00:50:23,808 we go. 731 00:50:23,928 --> 00:50:25,528 Coming to Steam Deck. 732 00:50:25,669 --> 00:50:27,089 That's what I like to see. 733 00:50:27,649 --> 00:50:28,569 Same. 734 00:50:28,586 --> 00:50:34,231 I've mentioned this time and time again, needs to be the standard for... 735 00:50:34,851 --> 00:50:37,352 When they say... 736 00:50:38,052 --> 00:50:45,934 Even for recommended maybe, but the standard for even the lowest that you should be able to play it on should be the Steam Deck. 737 00:50:45,934 --> 00:50:48,016 from now on for games that are for PC. 738 00:50:48,016 --> 00:50:48,576 sure. 739 00:50:48,576 --> 00:50:55,001 I think the highlight of the show for me though was Katana Zero, still getting its DLC, still in development. 740 00:50:55,683 --> 00:51:03,829 In many ways, this was the precursor to how Silksong, like everyone's been waiting for Silksong, but I've been waiting for the Katana Zero DLC. 741 00:51:06,316 --> 00:51:07,118 Have you guys played it? 742 00:51:07,118 --> 00:51:09,912 I'm thinking that we should have just watched this through. 743 00:51:10,310 --> 00:51:25,734 I feel like I watched I played katana zero on the switch at some point I think And it's like it's a side-scrolling melee combat Like metroidvania style game if I'm remembering 744 00:51:25,734 --> 00:51:27,062 correctly am I right on that 745 00:51:27,062 --> 00:51:34,690 No, it's level-based and you have to able to slow down time to better time your actions. 746 00:51:34,771 --> 00:51:39,937 And if you die, you go back and it's one big drug allegory, I think it was. 747 00:51:42,134 --> 00:51:44,064 I don't know what game I'm thinking of then. 748 00:51:46,556 --> 00:51:47,898 It's a good game. 749 00:51:50,868 --> 00:51:53,987 It's one of the last ones before they start the post show. 750 00:51:55,374 --> 00:51:57,874 I it was the last one, yeah. 751 00:51:57,874 --> 00:52:07,694 Oh Clover Pit's interesting though too, it's like a blotcher mixed with a shotgun roulette, I think it was. 752 00:52:08,974 --> 00:52:09,839 Hmm. 753 00:52:11,896 --> 00:52:18,058 But yeah, they've been developing this DLC for quite some time, to be honest. 754 00:52:18,058 --> 00:52:19,220 ASCIIsoft? 755 00:52:19,220 --> 00:52:22,956 I don't know if it's just one guy or if it's a team of people. 756 00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:30,696 But yeah. 757 00:52:33,486 --> 00:52:38,886 It's not going to be so how long how long have they been making in the works on this DLC? 758 00:52:40,126 --> 00:52:44,486 Because this game came out like what five years ago or something like that. 759 00:52:44,486 --> 00:52:47,906 It came out almost it came out six years ago. 760 00:52:47,906 --> 00:52:48,326 Yes. 761 00:52:48,326 --> 00:52:52,326 So I'm going to assume it's been developed for six years now. 762 00:52:52,586 --> 00:52:54,706 What did the Hall of Night come out? 763 00:52:56,056 --> 00:52:58,139 Hollow Knight was like seven years ago. 764 00:52:59,468 --> 00:53:06,148 Shit, man, I can't believe in the big 2025 we got news for both Silksong and Katana Zero DLC. 765 00:53:06,701 --> 00:53:07,516 Hmm. 766 00:53:09,034 --> 00:53:11,234 Indie games are coming back, maybe. 767 00:53:12,035 --> 00:53:12,925 They never went away. 768 00:53:12,925 --> 00:53:17,146 They've been only been doing better. 769 00:53:17,146 --> 00:53:19,567 That's what makes them hard, though. 770 00:53:19,567 --> 00:53:21,877 That's what's so hard about indie games. 771 00:53:22,178 --> 00:53:26,059 And I have to skip so many because they look interesting, but there's too many. 772 00:53:27,319 --> 00:53:28,760 They are truly too many. 773 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:35,751 And so I have to stick to my genre, which eating well, by the way, like indie horror does really well. 774 00:53:35,751 --> 00:53:37,624 And I love indie horror games. 775 00:53:37,624 --> 00:53:38,417 Yeah. 776 00:53:38,572 --> 00:53:40,353 I like, I really like the first one. 777 00:53:40,353 --> 00:53:42,764 I think that one was a big surprise to me. 778 00:53:42,964 --> 00:53:46,046 How much that one looks interesting, how interesting that one looks. 779 00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:48,868 Vampire Survivors is getting a free update. 780 00:53:48,868 --> 00:53:55,151 It's getting a crossover with the saga games, the like, romancing saga and all that stuff from Square. 781 00:53:55,262 --> 00:53:56,311 I don't know. 782 00:53:57,612 --> 00:54:02,555 Man, I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of burned out on like, survivor likes to be honest. 783 00:54:02,555 --> 00:54:08,098 I see like, I truly see a ton during the next fest and it really, like... 784 00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:13,634 I get it, I can choose to play those games and not play those demos, but like it really pisses me off when I see them. 785 00:54:13,634 --> 00:54:14,894 I don't know why. 786 00:54:15,915 --> 00:54:19,817 Cause they're, they're easy in a lot of ways. 787 00:54:19,818 --> 00:54:24,440 Not, I'm not saying that like vampires fires, you know, was easy to make. 788 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:34,749 It's just once you see something and you clone it you don't change it enough, it's just, it's trying to capitalize on something that was super successful and you can kind of tell 789 00:54:34,749 --> 00:54:36,609 it's just a kind of a clone. 790 00:54:37,049 --> 00:54:38,414 And if they don't do enough. 791 00:54:38,414 --> 00:54:49,994 change yet to just yeah you'd rather see something else it's crazy how vampire survivors blew up the way it did because i wouldn't have ever imagined vampire survivors getting 792 00:54:49,994 --> 00:54:58,394 fully animated trailers like this like maybe even a few years ago but hey it is what it is 793 00:54:59,918 --> 00:55:01,518 Some of it has to do with Liam. 794 00:55:01,518 --> 00:55:05,338 Liam was such, like, gaming on Linux, he was such an advocate for the game. 795 00:55:05,338 --> 00:55:16,178 I think that, like, there was just like this, um, uh, groundswell around the Steam Deck and Liam was kind of an influencer at that moment. 796 00:55:16,398 --> 00:55:19,898 And still is, but like, it really, I don't know. 797 00:55:19,898 --> 00:55:23,258 I think, I think Liam had a lot to do with its success. 798 00:55:23,898 --> 00:55:25,058 Which I love. 799 00:55:25,806 --> 00:55:26,927 Interesting. 800 00:55:28,732 --> 00:55:29,572 Huh. 801 00:55:30,082 --> 00:55:33,388 Are there any other games we want to mention before we move on? 802 00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:40,778 Um, Blazable Entropy Effect is getting a Dead Cells crossover, which is kind of funny because the game is basically Dead Cells. 803 00:55:42,238 --> 00:55:43,418 But that's... 804 00:55:43,418 --> 00:55:45,578 you don't have to pull up the trailer, I just wanted to mention that. 805 00:55:45,578 --> 00:55:49,018 No, it's okay, I'm looking through everything, just to see. 806 00:55:49,778 --> 00:55:52,758 It was before Opus, I believe. 807 00:55:52,958 --> 00:55:55,318 So was like, go back... 808 00:55:55,318 --> 00:55:56,778 go back to like the 20 minute mark. 809 00:55:56,778 --> 00:55:58,218 Oh, you want me to go to it? 810 00:55:58,218 --> 00:56:00,238 Oh, no, I was just saying you were looking for it. 811 00:56:00,238 --> 00:56:00,978 Entropy Effect? 812 00:56:00,978 --> 00:56:01,838 Yeah. 813 00:56:02,838 --> 00:56:11,161 It's based on the BlazBlue franchise and it's probably the best selling BlazBlue game because the BlazBlue games are like a series of really hardcore fighting games. 814 00:56:12,042 --> 00:56:16,844 And you'd have to be kind of crazy to be good at those games. 815 00:56:16,844 --> 00:56:18,405 I've played a little bit. 816 00:56:19,685 --> 00:56:20,266 I've played... 817 00:56:20,266 --> 00:56:23,247 I typically pick the hardest characters to play fighting games. 818 00:56:23,247 --> 00:56:24,107 know... 819 00:56:24,918 --> 00:56:28,529 I don't know if you guys are really into fighting games. 820 00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:30,370 To be honest. 821 00:56:31,006 --> 00:56:40,686 I'm Street Fighter 6 is really fun but other than that Smash Brothers and arms are my favorite fighting games those those are the ones that I like to play the most and 822 00:56:40,686 --> 00:56:42,477 everybody hates arms so 823 00:56:43,226 --> 00:56:44,307 I Arms. 824 00:56:44,406 --> 00:56:52,097 I mean, it's kind of silly saying that Arms is like a super-combatifying game, but like, I liked Arms. 825 00:56:52,494 --> 00:56:56,614 Oh no, don't care if it's a competitive fighting game. 826 00:56:56,614 --> 00:56:58,494 I'm not going to compete with anybody. 827 00:56:58,494 --> 00:56:59,914 I'm a filthy casual. 828 00:56:59,982 --> 00:57:01,362 Thank 829 00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:08,037 I I got called out bill for being a casual two on my channel. 830 00:57:08,037 --> 00:57:09,780 So no, no worries. 831 00:57:10,508 --> 00:57:11,480 they can call me out. 832 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,770 I am a casual and I will admit it. 833 00:57:13,770 --> 00:57:18,328 I don't have time to dedicate to a game to get good and I'm fine with that. 834 00:57:18,328 --> 00:57:19,181 Same. 835 00:57:20,366 --> 00:57:28,146 I'm decent at first person shooters and games like that that are very competitive because I played so much Unreal Tournament growing up. 836 00:57:28,146 --> 00:57:30,386 played so much. 837 00:57:30,826 --> 00:57:32,406 Are you as good as Elon? 838 00:57:32,406 --> 00:57:35,646 Apparently Elon Musk used to be a Quake god. 839 00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:43,246 Funny enough, I probably could wipe the floor with him on that game. 840 00:57:43,766 --> 00:57:45,046 yeah. 841 00:57:45,046 --> 00:57:45,846 Yeah. 842 00:57:45,846 --> 00:57:49,334 So I don't have any further words on 843 00:57:49,334 --> 00:57:52,373 the Triple I Initiative, it's cool, they should keep doing it every year. 844 00:57:53,399 --> 00:57:54,243 Yeah. 845 00:57:54,318 --> 00:58:02,181 I think that they should do it every quarter because having a four hour stream makes it kind of hard to cover. 846 00:58:02,281 --> 00:58:03,441 You know what I mean? 847 00:58:03,441 --> 00:58:10,864 But if they did it every quarter, then like, because I opened it up and I was like, Holy cow, these guys gave me some homework to watch. 848 00:58:10,864 --> 00:58:14,001 And I did not watch the whole thing because it was just way too much. 849 00:58:14,001 --> 00:58:15,662 It's four hours. 850 00:58:15,662 --> 00:58:22,962 I mean, yeah, the trailer only like the first hour, like first hour and 20 minutes to be honest. 851 00:58:23,818 --> 00:58:24,238 I do. 852 00:58:24,238 --> 00:58:26,680 But I mean, there's how many games here in this list? 853 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,010 Right. 854 00:58:27,010 --> 00:58:29,082 Like there's at least 35. 855 00:58:29,082 --> 00:58:29,572 Right. 856 00:58:29,572 --> 00:58:32,284 Or I would say I'm not counting. 857 00:58:32,284 --> 00:58:41,581 the if they did it every quarter and they just covered the games that were going to release this quarter, it would allow each of that. 858 00:58:41,581 --> 00:58:46,835 Like you break that up into like quarters that list. 859 00:58:46,835 --> 00:58:51,698 You know, it be like 10 games and then it would get spotlights on those 10 games rather than. 860 00:58:52,076 --> 00:58:53,819 And those 10 games would do better. 861 00:58:53,819 --> 00:58:54,701 Yes. 862 00:58:57,410 --> 00:58:58,130 You what I miss? 863 00:58:58,130 --> 00:58:59,491 I miss the ads. 864 00:59:00,612 --> 00:59:01,392 Said no one ever. 865 00:59:01,392 --> 00:59:02,633 the hosts. 866 00:59:02,633 --> 00:59:06,495 Hey, there could be good ads, but I agree. 867 00:59:06,635 --> 00:59:07,655 These are... 868 00:59:08,116 --> 00:59:09,397 trailers are ads. 869 00:59:09,397 --> 00:59:12,018 That's what's funny, kind of funny about this is that... 870 00:59:12,238 --> 00:59:12,999 You know what this... 871 00:59:12,999 --> 00:59:15,460 you know what the Triple I initiative needs? 872 00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:19,642 It needs like a solid 30 minutes on Hideo Kojima talking about his next game. 873 00:59:22,323 --> 00:59:24,398 His new Strand type video game. 874 00:59:24,398 --> 00:59:25,390 my god. 875 00:59:25,390 --> 00:59:30,690 or the other one that no one knows anything about besides the fact that it has Hunter Schaefer in it. 876 00:59:30,690 --> 00:59:33,230 Because I don't fucking know what that game is about. 877 00:59:33,792 --> 00:59:34,822 Everybody gets mad at me. 878 00:59:34,822 --> 00:59:36,905 have no love for Hideo Kojima. 879 00:59:36,905 --> 00:59:39,507 I don't never played Metal Gear solid. 880 00:59:39,507 --> 00:59:43,751 I don't care about death stranding or any of his nonsense. 881 00:59:43,751 --> 00:59:49,675 And every time he gets up on stage and I feel like they're actively wasting my time. 882 00:59:50,497 --> 00:59:52,318 Because he never says anything. 883 00:59:52,318 --> 00:59:55,811 He's like, I'm making a game and it's gonna be weird. 884 00:59:55,811 --> 00:59:58,393 And everybody's like, wow, what kind of game is he making? 885 00:59:58,393 --> 01:00:01,846 And then at the end of the 10 minutes that he's talking, 886 01:00:01,848 --> 01:00:04,708 You don't know any more than you did at the beginning. 887 01:00:04,738 --> 01:00:05,561 Yes. 888 01:00:05,778 --> 01:00:14,264 Definitely I did I felt that whenever a death straight and trailer dropped I didn't know what kind of game it was So imagine my surprise when I find out it was a literal walking 889 01:00:14,264 --> 01:00:24,351 scene like it's a walking It's really funny to because you see gameplay of people dropping like they have these huge boxes on like their back and they fall down a cliff and all the 890 01:00:24,351 --> 01:00:34,924 box It's the funniest thing ever but like I Wasn't I thought it would be like an action game like no no no don't get wrong there are like 891 01:00:34,924 --> 01:00:41,812 moments where you have to fight bosses and whatnot, like I didn't expect it to be like a Amazon delivery sort of game. 892 01:00:43,116 --> 01:00:44,508 And hey, people love it. 893 01:00:44,508 --> 01:00:45,198 If they love it. 894 01:00:45,198 --> 01:00:46,390 That's that's good for them. 895 01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:47,321 It's just not for me. 896 01:00:47,321 --> 01:00:49,653 And that's not everything has to be for me. 897 01:00:49,752 --> 01:00:53,145 Do they have like a piss bottle DLC for it? 898 01:00:53,347 --> 01:00:55,029 it's Amazon? 899 01:00:55,029 --> 01:00:56,150 It's close enough. 900 01:00:56,150 --> 01:01:04,680 They have a deal with Monster on the PS5 where the main character drinks a shitload of Monster energy. 901 01:01:05,622 --> 01:01:06,642 gosh. 902 01:01:07,484 --> 01:01:08,355 No, I'm not kidding. 903 01:01:08,355 --> 01:01:09,186 Look it up. 904 01:01:09,186 --> 01:01:10,006 What? 905 01:01:10,206 --> 01:01:11,526 Oh my god. 906 01:01:12,646 --> 01:01:14,582 I don't miss ads. 907 01:01:14,582 --> 01:01:22,215 I don't think it's in the newer versions of the game, but they used to have product placement for Monster Energy in... 908 01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:27,705 It's like a fully modeled Monster Energy can that he drinks out of. 909 01:01:28,354 --> 01:01:33,848 By the way, this episode of off the console is brought to you by the manscaped. 910 01:01:36,656 --> 01:01:54,836 Get that smooth feel on your yeah, okay, so We watched a lot of really good trailers I honestly I'm walking away with an amazing game that I am excited for now but Will I be 911 01:01:54,836 --> 01:02:01,870 owning it when I buy it that is our next topic Ubisoft holds firm in the crew lawsuit 912 01:02:02,144 --> 01:02:04,155 You don't own your video games. 913 01:02:04,696 --> 01:02:07,609 is this these are important lawsuits too, by the way. 914 01:02:07,609 --> 01:02:09,720 So high tech. 915 01:02:10,061 --> 01:02:14,966 You will own nothing and you will be happy, says Ubisoft. 916 01:02:14,966 --> 01:02:20,831 So if you recall, it's Ubisoft versus two guys in California who bought the crew. 917 01:02:21,212 --> 01:02:28,768 And Ubisoft says the plaintiffs have no real case due to a nebulous statute of limitations that isn't really defined at all. 918 01:02:29,102 --> 01:02:31,822 and that it's caused no real harm. 919 01:02:31,862 --> 01:02:33,542 Like, no one lost their... 920 01:02:33,542 --> 01:02:41,262 like, no one was injured or hurt or lost their job or lost anything financially, so to speak. 921 01:02:41,482 --> 01:02:42,722 That's what Ubisoft says. 922 01:02:42,722 --> 01:02:44,502 But here's the thing though. 923 01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:53,282 The plaintiffs provided photos of their package, which says that the activation code for the game does not expire until the year 2099. 924 01:02:53,522 --> 01:02:57,158 So Ubisoft really screwed the pooch on that one, printing that out. 925 01:02:58,619 --> 01:02:59,513 I didn't know that. 926 01:02:59,513 --> 01:03:01,369 That makes me laugh. 927 01:03:02,114 --> 01:03:02,896 Yeah. 928 01:03:03,151 --> 01:03:05,097 Doesn't expire until 2099. 929 01:03:05,097 --> 01:03:08,690 The code doesn't expire, not the game, obviously. 930 01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:09,670 Yeah. 931 01:03:09,792 --> 01:03:13,920 I wonder if they would have honored that if they had already delisted the game. 932 01:03:14,603 --> 01:03:15,385 No. 933 01:03:15,438 --> 01:03:17,718 I mean, no, they'll probably... 934 01:03:17,718 --> 01:03:24,649 I mean, so Valve will honor codes that have been for games that have been delisted, but that's Val. 935 01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:26,430 Yeah, that's that's 936 01:03:26,430 --> 01:03:32,214 do it for everything because if it if it were if it relies on a server, then valve can't. 937 01:03:33,195 --> 01:03:44,103 You know, like, for instance, Marvel Heroes, which was a game that was basically a Diablo like in the Marvel Universe made by David Brevik, the creator of Diablo. 938 01:03:44,103 --> 01:03:46,024 That game was really great. 939 01:03:46,124 --> 01:03:49,186 And then when Disney bought Marvel, they shut it down. 940 01:03:49,247 --> 01:03:54,570 But the thing is, steam gave me my money back on that game. 941 01:03:54,794 --> 01:03:59,982 Ubisoft isn't willing to give the if these if Ubisoft give these guys their money back I'd be like, you know what? 942 01:03:59,982 --> 01:04:03,969 That's fine Shut down your game and give the people their money back. 943 01:04:03,969 --> 01:04:05,300 No problem 944 01:04:07,744 --> 01:04:09,425 Yeah, so we should mention this. 945 01:04:09,425 --> 01:04:14,357 think we talked about this a couple of months ago, but Valve did amend the process. 946 01:04:14,357 --> 01:04:21,970 They did add to their, like, store that you're not technically owning these games, you're owning a license to play these games. 947 01:04:21,970 --> 01:04:26,402 So Valve is now upfront about the fact that you don't quote unquote own these games. 948 01:04:26,730 --> 01:04:30,894 I suppose only did that because they had to because of a new California law. 949 01:04:30,894 --> 01:04:32,035 That's correct. 950 01:04:32,737 --> 01:04:37,422 these guys are from California, so that's why they're able to sue Ubisoft for this. 951 01:04:38,804 --> 01:04:43,294 Like if they were from Virginia, they probably wouldn't have a case. 952 01:04:47,189 --> 01:05:01,410 Yeah, so the I Hopefully obviously this is gonna set precedence to so this is good That you know like the 2099 it's definitely gonna make it so that games that we buy from here 953 01:05:01,410 --> 01:05:14,490 on out is gonna probably be even more Sketchy on what the agreements we have to agree to so we'll see further on what kind of happens, but 954 01:05:15,170 --> 01:05:19,712 I'm not a, really don't like this idea of paying money and not owning a game. 955 01:05:19,712 --> 01:05:29,956 think ultimately, and I think I've talked about this before in the past, the, if a game's going to have an exit strategy of not, allowing you to, to redeem a code to do whatever 956 01:05:29,956 --> 01:05:34,518 they need to host an area, like a section where you can redeem it. 957 01:05:34,518 --> 01:05:42,591 Or if they, let's say if it's an online game, they take it down to have the server code available, everything to run it. 958 01:05:42,591 --> 01:05:44,494 They need to have an exit strategy. 959 01:05:44,494 --> 01:05:55,934 And it needs to be, it's really something that needs to hopefully go to courts over to make it into like a president's and then or into a law. 960 01:05:55,934 --> 01:05:59,994 just don't like, I don't plan on laws being made of this. 961 01:05:59,994 --> 01:06:02,054 It's just gonna have to be a president's kind of thing. 962 01:06:04,822 --> 01:06:15,209 Yeah, it's frustrating because it's like when you especially when there's a fun game that you love to play and it's and you you played it like 10 years ago or something you go back 963 01:06:15,209 --> 01:06:18,191 to try and play it again and it doesn't work for whatever reason. 964 01:06:18,191 --> 01:06:24,095 It's like I think I agree with you, James. 965 01:06:24,095 --> 01:06:34,142 It's like we should have like a culture in the gaming industry where it's expected that when you make a purchase, you'll be able to play it. 966 01:06:34,144 --> 01:06:41,576 indefinitely on the machines that you actually, you know, played it on if it's Xbox, if it's PC, if it's switch. 967 01:06:41,656 --> 01:06:51,699 And so it you know, I get really frustrated when I hear people say like, Well, you know, I don't expect I don't expect to be able to play it like 10 years from now. 968 01:06:51,699 --> 01:06:54,640 It's like, that's you today saying that. 969 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,761 But 10 years from now, you're gonna have you're gonna want to go back and play those games, maybe. 970 01:06:58,761 --> 01:07:03,202 And what do you you know, you can't just think about now, you have to think about 971 01:07:03,202 --> 01:07:07,450 the longevity of the products and services that you use. 972 01:07:07,652 --> 01:07:14,706 It's one of reasons I don't like using cloud-based games, because they're not going to exist 10 years from now. 973 01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:23,910 like how often do you do you sit there and you're like, you know what, I think I want to play this game from a long time ago. 974 01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:28,070 Like I think James was just talking about total annihilation. 975 01:07:28,070 --> 01:07:31,210 I looked it up while he was talking about that's 1997. 976 01:07:31,210 --> 01:07:32,230 Right. 977 01:07:32,410 --> 01:07:35,670 And, like, here we are in 2025. 978 01:07:35,710 --> 01:07:41,870 It's, you know, 28 years since that game came out and James is feeling nostalgic for it. 979 01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:44,546 If he couldn't play it, because 980 01:07:44,546 --> 01:07:50,851 the servers have been shut down or something like that, then that is a loss of art. 981 01:07:50,851 --> 01:07:55,454 And I think it's important to preserve that art. 982 01:07:55,454 --> 01:08:12,332 But until people start electing people that understand how this stuff works, because the people who go into politics or who go into judges, those people don't understand 983 01:08:12,332 --> 01:08:23,224 this technology they have no understanding of this technology which is why we've seen politicians talk about the idea of the internet is just a series of tubes i know that 984 01:08:23,224 --> 01:08:30,732 that's an old reference but that's the kind of thing that they don't understand what they're making decisions about 985 01:08:32,288 --> 01:08:40,195 Let me, just wanna, I do wanna preface by saying that I am running for the presidency of the United States of America. 986 01:08:40,195 --> 01:08:51,816 I will make laws where video games have to be up forever and everyone owns their games digitally and microtransactions are banned forever. 987 01:08:51,837 --> 01:08:56,581 If you do, I'll find you a billion dollars, two or $3 billion. 988 01:08:56,621 --> 01:08:57,902 It'll be great. 989 01:08:58,924 --> 01:08:59,719 Ladies. 990 01:08:59,719 --> 01:09:02,463 You got my no, but maybe 991 01:09:04,580 --> 01:09:07,848 You have to show your face before you can run for president. 992 01:09:11,418 --> 01:09:13,338 This is so good. 993 01:09:13,338 --> 01:09:20,418 You'd look at the presidents before they were elected and then after at the end of their term, they're like the age like 40 frickin years. 994 01:09:20,638 --> 01:09:23,418 Yeah, I took it be the only one that looks the same. 995 01:09:26,850 --> 01:09:28,163 I'm just that good at my job. 996 01:09:28,163 --> 01:09:30,097 doesn't even stress me out a day. 997 01:09:32,109 --> 01:09:37,049 I mean, at the top of the show, I talked about Rise of Legends, right? 998 01:09:37,049 --> 01:09:37,929 That's a 20. 999 01:09:37,929 --> 01:09:39,049 That's almost 20 years old. 1000 01:09:39,049 --> 01:09:41,009 That game came out in 2006. 1001 01:09:41,009 --> 01:09:43,689 And it's like, I have that sitting on my shelf out here. 1002 01:09:43,689 --> 01:09:49,949 And if I set it up, I don't think you can actually play it on Windows right now, like on a modern version of Windows. 1003 01:09:49,949 --> 01:09:58,009 But if I had an open as XP machine with air appropriate hardware, I could play that game, you know. 1004 01:09:58,049 --> 01:09:59,366 And that's like. 1005 01:09:59,682 --> 01:10:00,222 Huh? 1006 01:10:00,222 --> 01:10:01,362 Could you not do it through wine? 1007 01:10:01,362 --> 01:10:04,242 I've heard wine is very good with older games. 1008 01:10:06,982 --> 01:10:08,602 Typically pretty good. 1009 01:10:08,629 --> 01:10:18,215 Yeah, I think if you do, I think the only way I've been able to play it recently on Linux is with Lutris, like there's a Lutris script that will get it set up for you. 1010 01:10:18,215 --> 01:10:24,819 But it has like a bunch of it's using a geophysics like it's not Nvidia physics. 1011 01:10:24,819 --> 01:10:26,920 It's like the precursor. 1012 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,678 Before it got dude, I know, right? 1013 01:10:30,678 --> 01:10:40,323 So and it's using like a very like that same weird version of Direct X that didn't get a lot of great support. 1014 01:10:40,644 --> 01:10:42,478 Is it Direct X 10? 1015 01:10:42,485 --> 01:10:43,566 One of one of them? 1016 01:10:43,566 --> 01:10:44,494 I don't know. 1017 01:10:44,494 --> 01:10:50,530 I think it was 10, because I don't think I've heard very much fanfare about that, but I've heard quite a bit about DX11. 1018 01:10:51,246 --> 01:10:57,620 Yeah, DirectX 9 and DX 11 are great and DX 10. 1019 01:10:57,620 --> 01:11:00,035 That was during the Vista era. 1020 01:11:00,106 --> 01:11:01,026 Yes. 1021 01:11:01,727 --> 01:11:03,268 So I don't know. 1022 01:11:03,268 --> 01:11:09,753 The thing is, though, like you can play games that you own physically today, most in most cases. 1023 01:11:09,753 --> 01:11:22,231 But, you know, there we're in an era now where stuff that kids, the adult young adults today were playing when they were kids that have been have gone offline and they can't 1024 01:11:22,231 --> 01:11:23,342 play them anymore. 1025 01:11:23,342 --> 01:11:28,275 And it's like, what kind of world are we allowing to be created when we lose control like that? 1026 01:11:28,275 --> 01:11:29,146 I hate. 1027 01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:33,623 You're losing Creative works is what it is. 1028 01:11:33,623 --> 01:11:46,360 You're losing art is really what it is and that's in Today's world where it's so easy to do preservation With real world art like we do we we work we spend billions to preserve 1029 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:55,686 art We need to start and I know there's initiatives already and I've talked to a few people about this but 1030 01:11:56,704 --> 01:11:58,636 We need to do a little bit better. 1031 01:11:58,776 --> 01:12:02,880 Let's just make these companies do some bare minimum. 1032 01:12:03,121 --> 01:12:16,096 They need to have these extra strategies of, if this is going to go offline, you got to include whether it be some source code or the server stuff, something to where we can more 1033 01:12:16,096 --> 01:12:17,637 easily preserve it. 1034 01:12:18,462 --> 01:12:29,427 It's not a big ask it's and I I can be a little bit more on the uncaring side too because I don't usually go back and play games too often but there are games I do The thing is the 1035 01:12:29,427 --> 01:12:37,370 lot of the games I like to go back and play are very mainstream for those like half-life I'm not worried about half-life never being able to be played because valve does a good 1036 01:12:37,370 --> 01:12:41,491 job of making sure it's always available, right? 1037 01:12:42,032 --> 01:12:45,353 Total annihilation funny enough It's on Steam. 1038 01:12:45,353 --> 01:12:45,983 You can play it. 1039 01:12:45,983 --> 01:12:47,310 I have it 1040 01:12:47,310 --> 01:12:48,093 Nice. 1041 01:12:48,174 --> 01:13:00,114 So steam does do and if the game studios or the publishers or whoever owns the IP sometimes will also preserve it by uploading it or you know adding it to steam and usually 1042 01:13:00,114 --> 01:13:09,334 when it's a part once it's a part of steam Not every game will work but you can usually find workarounds but it would be nice to have a little bit maybe a little bit more 1043 01:13:09,334 --> 01:13:16,442 initiative on steam side to make sure things work which Does help let's add 1044 01:13:16,442 --> 01:13:20,642 99 cents right now for the total annihilation commander pack. 1045 01:13:21,314 --> 01:13:26,298 Yeah, I mean GOG is investing money and preserving games. 1046 01:13:26,298 --> 01:13:31,642 I mean, it's in their wheelhouse, but I think Valve with Proton, they're they're working towards that. 1047 01:13:32,063 --> 01:13:36,107 Especially trying to move the industry away from Windows. 1048 01:13:36,107 --> 01:13:37,047 that's. 1049 01:13:37,474 --> 01:13:38,648 A big deal. 1050 01:13:40,611 --> 01:13:41,891 Yeah, yeah. 1051 01:13:43,273 --> 01:13:49,198 But yeah, I mean, I I just looked it up because I hadn't I hadn't heard of it for a while, but like. 1052 01:13:49,198 --> 01:13:53,638 Did you guys ever play crush kill and destroy KK nd? 1053 01:13:54,818 --> 01:13:59,618 You want to talk about an obscure old RTS game? 1054 01:13:59,618 --> 01:14:04,218 KK nd is basically like a command and conquer clone. 1055 01:14:04,218 --> 01:14:12,858 And I played that when I was a little kid and I was like, I was curious because like I haven't heard of it in a long time, but that's a game that I'd like to go back and visit. 1056 01:14:12,858 --> 01:14:16,258 It's thankfully available on on steam right now. 1057 01:14:16,258 --> 01:14:18,058 So I'm gonna get that. 1058 01:14:18,058 --> 01:14:18,778 But 1059 01:14:19,246 --> 01:14:31,086 If it, you know, like you were saying, James, it's like, if, if it's a game that's like obscure and it has been delisted or whatever, like, how do you, how does, how is anyone 1060 01:14:31,086 --> 01:14:33,446 supposed to play these old games from their childhood? 1061 01:14:33,606 --> 01:14:35,486 You know, especially when. 1062 01:14:37,034 --> 01:14:43,370 know, kids growing up today, 20 years from now, every game's gonna be digital, you know? 1063 01:14:43,854 --> 01:14:49,634 Well, yeah, and the games that the kids are playing today are Fortnite, Minecraft, Roblox. 1064 01:14:49,634 --> 01:14:50,474 Yeah, those will be up the first. 1065 01:14:50,474 --> 01:14:54,070 games, there's zero preservation that'll happen there. 1066 01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:54,893 Yeah. 1067 01:14:54,904 --> 01:15:08,680 So one thing I do like this current recent trend is of people decompiling games and essentially recompiling them for modern systems, making them open source basically. 1068 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:17,203 And I mean, we saw this with the very recent Sonic Unleashed open source port, which is pretty insane to me that they managed to get that working. 1069 01:15:18,544 --> 01:15:23,402 It's a great, I mean, that's probably the second best way to keep it preserved. 1070 01:15:23,402 --> 01:15:25,604 or maybe even the first best way. 1071 01:15:26,246 --> 01:15:29,460 takes a lot of work and we've talked about this in the past. 1072 01:15:29,460 --> 01:15:33,053 think Gardner's one that brought it up like it or some. 1073 01:15:33,622 --> 01:15:35,944 I it was Gardner that brought it up that it's really hard. 1074 01:15:35,944 --> 01:15:42,429 Like this does not work for every game and you have to fine tune it almost for every game because there's a lot of dependencies. 1075 01:15:42,429 --> 01:15:47,854 like so like the Sonic fan base is extremely talented at doing many things. 1076 01:15:47,854 --> 01:15:52,117 They're very not they're very notorious for many things. 1077 01:15:52,297 --> 01:15:58,422 Christian, but they what they what they really put their heads together and like. 1078 01:15:58,494 --> 01:16:01,538 actually make shit work, they can do it really well. 1079 01:16:01,538 --> 01:16:07,125 There are very few fanbases as big as the Sonic fanbase that can do stuff like this. 1080 01:16:07,406 --> 01:16:09,857 But it shouldn't be on the fan base to do it. 1081 01:16:09,857 --> 01:16:19,673 The companies should do it and that's never going to happen because the Pete like, listen, I'm not gonna make, I'm not gonna call out anybody's age on here. 1082 01:16:19,673 --> 01:16:22,674 I think I'm probably the oldest guy on the panel. 1083 01:16:22,695 --> 01:16:31,039 And when I grew up, the people who were in charge were the people who made the games. 1084 01:16:31,139 --> 01:16:36,322 And now the people who are in charge are people who don't know anything about games. 1085 01:16:36,322 --> 01:16:40,628 business executives that went to business school. 1086 01:16:40,789 --> 01:16:42,401 They're just, yeah, exactly. 1087 01:16:42,401 --> 01:16:45,656 That's the problem. 1088 01:16:45,656 --> 01:16:47,679 The people who are in charge of the wrong people. 1089 01:16:47,679 --> 01:16:49,550 And you're never gonna get that changed. 1090 01:16:49,550 --> 01:16:50,950 Yeah, that is unfortunate. 1091 01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:59,810 That's why we like indie games, because oftentimes they're the ones running the ship and they're the ones actually making the games. 1092 01:17:00,170 --> 01:17:01,410 More often than not. 1093 01:17:02,130 --> 01:17:10,830 And yeah, to go back to the indie publisher discussion we had, on one hand, I kind of, deep down, kind of think kind of... 1094 01:17:10,830 --> 01:17:18,590 Because when you think of indie games, you think of a guy in his basement making a game in his free time, but when you think of indie publishers, it almost feels like it defeats the 1095 01:17:18,590 --> 01:17:19,384 purpose. 1096 01:17:19,384 --> 01:17:24,696 But as long as they're able to move the business side away from the creative side, I'm okay with it. 1097 01:17:24,696 --> 01:17:34,581 And unfortunately, a lot of modern AAA games are designed where it's business first, game second, like, know, microtransactions. 1098 01:17:34,681 --> 01:17:37,522 Like, I think Sha- Have you guys played Shadow of Mordor? 1099 01:17:38,338 --> 01:17:38,978 Yeah. 1100 01:17:38,978 --> 01:17:40,078 Yeah, a little bit. 1101 01:17:40,078 --> 01:17:42,998 Have you guys played the sequel Shadow of War? 1102 01:17:43,918 --> 01:17:45,438 I think so. 1103 01:17:45,438 --> 01:17:46,978 I think finished it. 1104 01:17:47,538 --> 01:17:56,778 One thing that really got people pissed off was because like towards the last third of the game, it became extremely grindy. 1105 01:17:56,778 --> 01:18:05,278 But it so happened that WB graced us with the ability to buy microtransactions, which in turn makes the grind a little less unbearable. 1106 01:18:05,278 --> 01:18:09,918 People hated it because it basically artificially extended the grind. 1107 01:18:10,298 --> 01:18:17,322 Yeah, and like, it's like one of the like they ended up removing it and they they ended up moving it and then also lessening the grind. 1108 01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:23,385 Which, you you know what that tells me that tells me they inflated it so that they can sell micro transactions. 1109 01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:24,451 Yeah. 1110 01:18:24,451 --> 01:18:28,424 Well, I mean, that's like arcade level, like deviousness. 1111 01:18:28,424 --> 01:18:33,739 Like back in the back in the day, arcade games were incredibly hard so they could suck more quarters out of you. 1112 01:18:33,739 --> 01:18:38,483 And like that's kind of where the industry has originated and where it's headed. 1113 01:18:38,483 --> 01:18:48,471 And that's why I like indie games, because it's made they're generally made by people who have passion for what they're doing and the games they're creating. 1114 01:18:48,471 --> 01:18:52,634 And that's why I like open source most of the time, because 1115 01:18:52,674 --> 01:19:02,564 these unpaid developers just have a passion and want to make the best software that they can versus most of the proprietary stuff that you use out there where it's like they want 1116 01:19:02,564 --> 01:19:04,586 to just find a way to nickel and dime you. 1117 01:19:05,496 --> 01:19:12,638 But let me as somebody who does not make games, but talks a lot about the industry, there's something that I want to make sure that I understand. 1118 01:19:12,638 --> 01:19:19,030 And maybe I'm wrong about this, especially as Gardner, you've made games and James, I just found out that you make games too. 1119 01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:20,970 Here's my question. 1120 01:19:21,171 --> 01:19:26,872 If I'm making a game, and I'm going to put it on Steam, I don't need a publisher, right? 1121 01:19:27,653 --> 01:19:28,333 Right. 1122 01:19:28,333 --> 01:19:33,174 I really only need a publisher if I'm going to put it on consoles, right? 1123 01:19:33,782 --> 01:19:43,948 I think even I looked into publishing my game on Xbox and PlayStation and even switch and I don't think you need a publisher to do that. 1124 01:19:43,948 --> 01:19:53,653 need a public like publishers are good for marketing your game and handling a lot of the business stuff that you want that you don't want to handle as a developer. 1125 01:19:54,700 --> 01:19:59,633 But I go, mean, I there's a lot of companies that will. 1126 01:19:59,694 --> 01:20:03,536 If you're an indie, you can work with marketing companies that will do a lot of that. 1127 01:20:03,536 --> 01:20:09,410 Publishers are there to fund you first and foremost and to help you. 1128 01:20:09,410 --> 01:20:16,145 And like what Gardner said, then they also offer additional services like getting on the consoles and other things like. 1129 01:20:16,145 --> 01:20:18,266 But you should be able to get on the console. 1130 01:20:18,266 --> 01:20:22,369 And I think 10 years ago, different story nowadays. 1131 01:20:22,369 --> 01:20:23,778 They have a lot like. 1132 01:20:23,778 --> 01:20:29,520 They noticed, like Sony and Microsoft noticed that like Indies art can get really popular. 1133 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:35,282 They have a lot of initiatives to make it easier to get it onto the consoles. 1134 01:20:36,242 --> 01:20:43,955 I definitely remember back in the day, like during the PS2 era, that publishing games used to be really difficult. 1135 01:20:43,955 --> 01:20:47,846 You basically had to have a publisher because you guys know the behemoth. 1136 01:20:48,622 --> 01:20:55,628 They made Castle Crashers, Alien Hominid, I remember they published Alien Hominid on like the Gamecube and PS2 like back in the day. 1137 01:20:56,069 --> 01:20:58,671 And they definitely had a publisher. 1138 01:20:58,671 --> 01:21:01,533 They had to have one to get a physical copy. 1139 01:21:01,834 --> 01:21:11,088 Even in the even in the Xbox Live arcade era, Microsoft required Indies to have a publisher in order to be on Xbox. 1140 01:21:11,088 --> 01:21:12,649 But that changed. 1141 01:21:12,834 --> 01:21:14,114 Valva had to have one. 1142 01:21:14,114 --> 01:21:14,565 I'm sorry. 1143 01:21:14,565 --> 01:21:16,116 I don't mean to keep they know you're right. 1144 01:21:16,116 --> 01:21:20,458 Half Life 2 had to like the and they do not. 1145 01:21:21,639 --> 01:21:28,643 It's interesting because they definitely don't like like Sierra went under and I think they were a little soured by that with Half Life 1. 1146 01:21:28,643 --> 01:21:32,086 And so, yeah, that's interesting. 1147 01:21:32,086 --> 01:21:39,956 They have publishers for consoles, not first team, I mean, yeah, I think. 1148 01:21:39,956 --> 01:21:40,906 Sierra fault. 1149 01:21:40,906 --> 01:21:47,769 think Sierra going under that might have I think that might have inspired them to make steam as so that they could control. 1150 01:21:47,769 --> 01:21:52,331 Well, that and also the fact that updating games was kind of a pain in the ass back in the day. 1151 01:21:52,331 --> 01:21:56,553 had to download patches and get it confirmed with your friends that you were on the latest patch. 1152 01:21:56,553 --> 01:21:56,883 Yeah. 1153 01:21:56,883 --> 01:22:00,184 And you also had to be careful not to download patches from sketchy websites. 1154 01:22:00,184 --> 01:22:02,595 Otherwise you would have gotten a virus. 1155 01:22:02,655 --> 01:22:03,655 Yeah. 1156 01:22:04,056 --> 01:22:04,976 Yeah. 1157 01:22:05,817 --> 01:22:07,317 It had a purpose. 1158 01:22:07,317 --> 01:22:08,277 Yeah. 1159 01:22:10,134 --> 01:22:10,824 Yeah, don't. 1160 01:22:10,824 --> 01:22:11,054 Yeah. 1161 01:22:11,054 --> 01:22:12,435 Fuck Ubisoft, by the way. 1162 01:22:12,435 --> 01:22:22,017 should have changed your name to like just off the hate console or off the hate or something like that. 1163 01:22:22,017 --> 01:22:22,617 don't know. 1164 01:22:22,617 --> 01:22:35,431 But off the hate train, the hate train like X, X, poor Xbox and or Microsoft that is and Nintendo and Nvidia and Ubisoft, man. 1165 01:22:35,431 --> 01:22:39,752 They get the the IR every week, which to be fair, they need to be called out. 1166 01:22:40,202 --> 01:22:43,053 They are n****s by hiring these C-suite douchebags. 1167 01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:43,874 Yep. 1168 01:22:44,888 --> 01:22:47,459 Well, they've essentially destroyed their companies. 1169 01:22:47,459 --> 01:22:56,201 They're in all these, and what I get pissed off about is like, okay, cool, I want the company to go under, but I don't, because then it hurts the developers. 1170 01:22:56,642 --> 01:23:10,316 Developers in the gaming industry, I don't know if I could work for a game studio in the AAA, because I already work in the software world. 1171 01:23:10,574 --> 01:23:13,054 And it's already a little chaotic with all the layoffs. 1172 01:23:13,054 --> 01:23:19,294 so it's always like a little nerve wracking, like, oh, is it going to be, is it going to be this time that the layoffs happen to me? 1173 01:23:19,434 --> 01:23:22,654 But game devs have always had to deal with this. 1174 01:23:22,654 --> 01:23:34,274 so it is, I am no fan of the way that these big game companies hire C-level execs that don't know what the shit they're talking about. 1175 01:23:34,274 --> 01:23:36,358 They don't know what they're talking about. 1176 01:23:36,430 --> 01:23:39,350 I will say one thing that I think is really good. 1177 01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:53,710 You know, you're talking about a big company, Square Enix, the number of people that worked on Final Fantasy seven remake, and then they moved forward to work on the sequel, 1178 01:23:53,870 --> 01:23:55,550 Final Fantasy seven rebirth. 1179 01:23:55,550 --> 01:23:59,190 And it's the same, it's basically the same team that's 1180 01:23:59,190 --> 01:24:01,351 almost unheard of in the industry. 1181 01:24:01,351 --> 01:24:07,853 A lot of times they'll just be like, all right, all you guys are out of here, we're going to bring in some new people and they're going to be working on this next thing. 1182 01:24:07,874 --> 01:24:14,646 And they are keeping mostly the same people, which has a couple of benefits. 1183 01:24:14,646 --> 01:24:20,249 Number one, it makes it easier for them to spin up things and get get going faster because they're using the same tool set. 1184 01:24:20,249 --> 01:24:22,259 They don't have to train the new people. 1185 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:28,910 But also, like that's job security for those developers because they know 1186 01:24:28,910 --> 01:24:30,281 All right, I'm working on the next one. 1187 01:24:30,281 --> 01:24:32,822 I mean, I assume we're gonna have Final Fantasy seven. 1188 01:24:32,822 --> 01:24:40,365 re-release games for the rest of our lives, because they're just going to keep milking that cow, which I'm fine with because I love those games. 1189 01:24:40,365 --> 01:24:47,648 But like, that's that's one thing where I think that they're doing it right if what I've what I've read is accurate. 1190 01:24:48,242 --> 01:24:54,928 Japanese publishers, especially really good at that Japanese publishers and developers, I think do a fairly good job. 1191 01:24:56,270 --> 01:25:01,095 They have a whole other like but they have a in some ways an opposite. 1192 01:25:01,396 --> 01:25:05,860 They still have they still have a lot of issues with like crunch over there. 1193 01:25:05,860 --> 01:25:07,751 So much. 1194 01:25:07,751 --> 01:25:10,812 The work life balance is ridiculous. 1195 01:25:10,812 --> 01:25:18,464 like, if I don't know if it's his fault, or if it's like the company's fault. 1196 01:25:18,464 --> 01:25:22,376 But what's what's the guy who works on Smash Brothers? 1197 01:25:24,757 --> 01:25:25,637 Yes, Sakurai. 1198 01:25:25,637 --> 01:25:28,598 Yeah, Sakurai like that dude just like works like 1199 01:25:28,990 --> 01:25:36,256 He's almost dead and he's still in there working on Smash Brothers making sure that it's coded right and like that that stuff is crazy to me. 1200 01:25:36,256 --> 01:25:47,744 Also, the fact that they sometimes send people to like rooms to just have them sit there in a white room with nothing to do until they finally quit instead of fire them. 1201 01:25:47,744 --> 01:25:50,286 That's also not a great way to do things. 1202 01:25:50,838 --> 01:25:52,219 Yeah, I've heard about that too. 1203 01:25:52,219 --> 01:25:58,164 I don't know what to make of Japanese word culture because I hear a lot of the stuff. 1204 01:25:58,164 --> 01:26:02,728 So at the same time though, there's a lot of crazy shit that happens in Japan. 1205 01:26:02,728 --> 01:26:05,118 I don't want to talk about it because I don't fully... 1206 01:26:05,118 --> 01:26:07,792 I don't want to pretend I fully understand it. 1207 01:26:08,338 --> 01:26:08,743 I don't know. 1208 01:26:08,743 --> 01:26:09,594 It's crazy. 1209 01:26:09,594 --> 01:26:10,855 They have a very... 1210 01:26:11,576 --> 01:26:18,681 Certain parts of Asia especially, but South Korea and Japan have really out of balance work ethic. 1211 01:26:19,904 --> 01:26:23,075 in the sense of like, you kind of work yourself to death in some ways. 1212 01:26:23,075 --> 01:26:24,296 Yeah. 1213 01:26:24,996 --> 01:26:30,258 And plus, nine times a day you're probably working for Samsung because Samsung owns a lot of shit in South Korea. 1214 01:26:30,258 --> 01:26:35,520 Like they all like also have, they also make a lot of military shit in South Korea too, I should mention. 1215 01:26:36,561 --> 01:26:37,501 So. 1216 01:26:40,142 --> 01:26:43,434 No, you're that that is a very famous thing that we do here. 1217 01:26:43,434 --> 01:26:49,026 Yeah, that's why it's two hours long every episode. 1218 01:26:49,144 --> 01:26:50,281 Let's see. 1219 01:26:50,871 --> 01:27:06,661 So let's I'm gonna steer this back on and This is what we've been talking about game preservation and a bunch of other things this next article this next topic has got me 1220 01:27:06,782 --> 01:27:19,150 Honestly confused on what I want to see come from this type of thing and that is an early prototype of The Steam Deck was sold on eBay 1221 01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:21,470 in the last week, I believe. 1222 01:27:23,090 --> 01:27:25,390 And, great ad. 1223 01:27:27,170 --> 01:27:32,710 I'm not a fan of this, but Hi Tech, you're the one that posts this. 1224 01:27:32,710 --> 01:27:34,502 Do you want to give us a little bit of a? 1225 01:27:36,861 --> 01:27:40,242 I'm not really sure what more can be said. 1226 01:27:40,242 --> 01:27:42,282 It's a Steam Deck prototype. 1227 01:27:42,382 --> 01:27:44,782 It will soar for $3,000. 1228 01:27:44,782 --> 01:27:52,602 And we were earlier, we were speculating on which famous YouTuber bought this, because it certainly sounds like something Linus Tech Tips would buy, but at the same time, people 1229 01:27:52,602 --> 01:28:01,382 were expecting it be Brinx, because, well, Brinx has also been on the rise in terms of running Bazite on whatever the fuck hardware he gets his hands on. 1230 01:28:01,542 --> 01:28:03,878 We should ask him about that, too, but... 1231 01:28:03,884 --> 01:28:05,636 It's an interesting little prototype. 1232 01:28:05,636 --> 01:28:15,945 It's got circular track pads, which honestly I kind of wish the current Steam Deck had, because the Steam Controller has circular track pads, and I really like this. 1233 01:28:17,506 --> 01:28:28,302 Yeah, Valve said that they went with the square track pads because it actually gives you more real estate for your thumbs for the size of the track pad. 1234 01:28:28,302 --> 01:28:29,622 mean it makes sense. 1235 01:28:29,662 --> 01:28:31,642 have the you don't have corners in this one. 1236 01:28:31,642 --> 01:28:35,342 You have like an extra area where you can get corners and stuff. 1237 01:28:35,342 --> 01:28:47,722 Also, it looks like one of the it looks like one of the thumbsticks broke off and also it also the left thumbstick that's still on it doesn't look it looks very different compared 1238 01:28:47,722 --> 01:28:56,522 to what we have now because what we have now is our touch capacitive thumbsticks where you can put your finger on you can put your thumb on it and it does something. 1239 01:28:57,068 --> 01:28:58,319 Yeah, I was going to mention that. 1240 01:28:58,319 --> 01:29:09,805 Like if you zoom in on the broken thumbstick, it doesn't look like there's circuitry or wire or anything in there, which would lead me to believe that it's not touch sensitive, 1241 01:29:09,805 --> 01:29:10,725 right? 1242 01:29:10,725 --> 01:29:18,699 Like, have you taken apart the Steam Deck's joystick module? 1243 01:29:18,699 --> 01:29:19,800 Yeah. 1244 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:20,498 Anyone? 1245 01:29:20,498 --> 01:29:22,880 I replaced a ton of them. 1246 01:29:23,441 --> 01:29:27,885 I for my Steam Deck Ola, my LCD, not my Ola just yet though. 1247 01:29:28,138 --> 01:29:35,263 Yeah, so I it doesn't look like that material would be like capacitive in any way that's inside the broken stick there. 1248 01:29:35,263 --> 01:29:51,755 So I'm I'm curious if that was like a late addition to the to the Steam Deck or because if you look at the actual in that article, the last image at the bottom, it has like the like 1249 01:29:51,755 --> 01:29:56,918 Noah highlighted the revision that that's part of the whole. 1250 01:29:57,648 --> 01:29:58,879 history there. 1251 01:29:58,879 --> 01:29:59,579 Yeah. 1252 01:29:59,579 --> 01:30:04,222 So you can see that's like the 13th before the final steam deck, right? 1253 01:30:04,222 --> 01:30:06,964 So that this seems like a fairly late edition. 1254 01:30:06,964 --> 01:30:16,789 I don't know if they have every iteration of the hardware on this list, but it seems much closer to the final version than some of the other ones on this list. 1255 01:30:18,170 --> 01:30:18,711 and 1256 01:30:18,711 --> 01:30:25,876 Yeah, I'm super curious about the ones with the black triangles on the side. 1257 01:30:25,876 --> 01:30:27,417 That one, right there. 1258 01:30:27,417 --> 01:30:29,078 What the fuck is that? 1259 01:30:30,902 --> 01:30:32,063 What is going on there? 1260 01:30:32,063 --> 01:30:33,364 It's a prototype. 1261 01:30:33,545 --> 01:30:34,605 I know. 1262 01:30:35,947 --> 01:30:38,830 What about the one that has the little handle on the side? 1263 01:30:38,830 --> 01:30:40,950 click on that, it'll bring it bigger. 1264 01:30:42,090 --> 01:30:42,610 Yeah. 1265 01:30:42,610 --> 01:30:48,750 So that one, to me, those look like modules, like that detachable modules. 1266 01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:55,709 Because if you look at the one just next to it, it's like missing ones on the left, but it has that one on the right. 1267 01:30:55,850 --> 01:30:59,210 And it looks like it's swappable between the two. 1268 01:30:59,210 --> 01:31:00,310 You know what I'm saying? 1269 01:31:00,310 --> 01:31:01,330 Like 1270 01:31:02,356 --> 01:31:03,410 yeah. 1271 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,773 It's weird and kind of cool. 1272 01:31:05,773 --> 01:31:15,296 And so those teardrop shaped ones, I'm wondering if you could pop those out and put different modules in there to mess around, to change the controls. 1273 01:31:15,544 --> 01:31:16,975 There's another one. 1274 01:31:17,694 --> 01:31:22,681 The one to the right of the triangles has looks like joy cons you can take out. 1275 01:31:22,764 --> 01:31:23,635 Yeah. 1276 01:31:23,937 --> 01:31:24,978 Yeah. 1277 01:31:25,241 --> 01:31:26,163 That is interesting. 1278 01:31:26,163 --> 01:31:26,413 Yeah. 1279 01:31:26,413 --> 01:31:31,455 There's a lot of I and you, I think, has a couple of devices that allow you to swap out. 1280 01:31:31,834 --> 01:31:41,467 The IE of three has one that you can swap the you can swap them out so you can have track pads or so can have joysticks or you can even put them in upside down. 1281 01:31:41,467 --> 01:31:46,272 So you can decide if I want to have the stick on the top or the D pad on the top. 1282 01:31:46,380 --> 01:31:50,232 Yeah, that's an interesting one to say the least. 1283 01:31:51,133 --> 01:31:57,937 Honestly, Hi-Tech, you should look into this more if you haven't done a video on this, but the prototypes are really fun to do a video on. 1284 01:31:57,937 --> 01:31:58,607 There's a lot. 1285 01:31:58,607 --> 01:31:59,958 You know what would be more fun? 1286 01:31:59,958 --> 01:32:01,769 Getting my hands on one of these prototypes. 1287 01:32:01,769 --> 01:32:04,100 You know what would be even more fun? 1288 01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:05,955 Honestly, that would be fun. 1289 01:32:05,955 --> 01:32:11,084 Some of these I'd like to feel like see how they feel because it's really bizarre. 1290 01:32:11,084 --> 01:32:14,626 I'd like to honestly interview. 1291 01:32:15,096 --> 01:32:16,848 couple of the guys on these prototypes. 1292 01:32:16,848 --> 01:32:18,139 So fascinating. 1293 01:32:18,139 --> 01:32:23,102 You want to try getting Lierput, Penelography on this channel? 1294 01:32:23,102 --> 01:32:24,294 That'd be awesome. 1295 01:32:24,294 --> 01:32:26,075 Yes, I want to know why. 1296 01:32:26,075 --> 01:32:28,247 Some of these are very weird and I want to know why. 1297 01:32:28,247 --> 01:32:32,491 Because obviously, they didn't have screens on some. 1298 01:32:32,491 --> 01:32:38,272 They were trying to test out certain capabilities and features and stuff. 1299 01:32:38,272 --> 01:32:40,843 They didn't care about the other things, obviously. 1300 01:32:40,843 --> 01:32:42,284 And so it's interesting. 1301 01:32:42,284 --> 01:32:45,675 can we go back to so can we go back to the actual prototype? 1302 01:32:45,675 --> 01:32:47,486 I want to talk about the top of the device. 1303 01:32:48,847 --> 01:32:50,137 Yeah, you the picture. 1304 01:32:50,137 --> 01:32:53,689 Yeah, you see the picture with like, yeah, can you maximize that? 1305 01:32:54,730 --> 01:32:57,751 So you see there are blue accent buttons. 1306 01:32:57,751 --> 01:33:00,812 I'm not super big on this color of blue with the black. 1307 01:33:00,812 --> 01:33:02,203 I don't I don't really dig it. 1308 01:33:02,203 --> 01:33:04,354 I wish it were more like a neon blue. 1309 01:33:05,138 --> 01:33:09,099 I also see that the buttons jut out quite a bit, a lot more than they would on the actual device. 1310 01:33:09,099 --> 01:33:11,900 It's like a whole volume. 1311 01:33:11,900 --> 01:33:15,141 It's a volume rocker as opposed to just two buttons for the volume. 1312 01:33:15,218 --> 01:33:17,722 And the power button sticks out quite a bit as well. 1313 01:33:18,362 --> 01:33:20,322 But I am super curious about... 1314 01:33:20,322 --> 01:33:22,063 is that a headphone jack? 1315 01:33:23,144 --> 01:33:23,784 Yeah. 1316 01:33:23,784 --> 01:33:24,764 That's weird. 1317 01:33:24,764 --> 01:33:29,426 It almost looks like a barrel jack from what I see, but yeah, it's a headphone jack. 1318 01:33:29,426 --> 01:33:30,698 It's weird. 1319 01:33:30,752 --> 01:33:37,612 I feel like I'm seeing lens distortion here like they're using a point five lens or something because it's just everything looks compressed 1320 01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:43,202 Yeah, I think this is like a wide angle smartphone camera. 1321 01:33:43,202 --> 01:33:47,336 Yeah, he wants to take a close up, but get everything in the picture. 1322 01:33:47,336 --> 01:33:49,402 Yeah, can dig it. 1323 01:33:51,754 --> 01:34:05,838 But if you look at the next picture, the triggers, yeah, that one, the triggers, look like instead of being on the top of the device, they look almost like they're at the back of 1324 01:34:05,838 --> 01:34:07,629 the device. 1325 01:34:08,150 --> 01:34:11,513 Am I describing it the way that you guys see what I'm saying? 1326 01:34:11,892 --> 01:34:13,497 I see what you're saying, yeah. 1327 01:34:13,987 --> 01:34:21,679 Yeah, and I think the analog triggers don't look like they have much in terms of like analog play, right? 1328 01:34:21,701 --> 01:34:24,182 Like they look like they could be digital. 1329 01:34:24,182 --> 01:34:30,427 If I had, I mean, if I had this, if I had to guess, maybe they were testing out something like pressure sensitive triggers. 1330 01:34:30,427 --> 01:34:40,135 Cause I know, you know, the, you know, the Hori controller that's, that's they made that works with steam input that has pressure. 1331 01:34:40,135 --> 01:34:40,786 Yeah, that one. 1332 01:34:40,786 --> 01:34:41,456 have one of those too. 1333 01:34:41,456 --> 01:34:42,777 I ordered it from Japan. 1334 01:34:42,777 --> 01:34:45,309 They, a pressure sensor. 1335 01:34:45,309 --> 01:34:45,610 Yeah. 1336 01:34:45,610 --> 01:34:46,921 They're pressure sensitive. 1337 01:34:46,921 --> 01:34:53,484 Like you can't, like, if you look in the software and test it out in steam input, if you look at the, like, 1338 01:34:53,484 --> 01:34:58,140 They have analog values that are tied to how hard you're pressing those triggers. 1339 01:34:58,644 --> 01:35:03,099 Yeah, but okay, so I played a racing game with this controller and it was freaking terrible. 1340 01:35:03,099 --> 01:35:07,803 Like you could not control how fast you were going. 1341 01:35:07,803 --> 01:35:10,225 It felt like it was on or off. 1342 01:35:10,378 --> 01:35:12,764 I mean, that makes sense. 1343 01:35:12,764 --> 01:35:17,472 Are you on the Steam input mode or are you on the Direct input mode? 1344 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,204 I'm on Steam. 1345 01:35:20,536 --> 01:35:25,309 So I know those have pressure sensitive triggers, because I've tried them out. 1346 01:35:25,730 --> 01:35:26,900 And I can confirm that. 1347 01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:29,512 And I even recorded it for my video on it. 1348 01:35:29,512 --> 01:35:32,234 But yeah, they have pressure sensitive triggers. 1349 01:35:32,294 --> 01:35:35,736 But that doesn't seem like something Hori would do on their own. 1350 01:35:35,897 --> 01:35:39,609 It seems like something Valve may have contributed to as well. 1351 01:35:39,609 --> 01:35:40,760 So that's what I'm thinking. 1352 01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:45,184 Because these don't look like they have a lot of give or take. 1353 01:35:45,184 --> 01:35:49,206 They don't have a lot of analog range, from what I can see. 1354 01:35:49,452 --> 01:35:53,497 But I'm guessing they tried pressure sensitive triggers for like trigger functionality. 1355 01:35:53,497 --> 01:35:58,694 Also, I see the macro button at the bottom. 1356 01:35:58,694 --> 01:36:00,916 I really do not like where they're placed here. 1357 01:36:01,930 --> 01:36:15,990 Yeah, I thought it was interesting because it looks like it almost has like the the long single paddle on either side and then also the r4 r5 l4 r5 So it looks like there might be 1358 01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:19,990 three buttons there even though On each side, know what i'm saying? 1359 01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:28,168 Yeah, it's like the the the the steam controller has a single Long paddle you can hit with any of the butt that your fingers on the back, right? 1360 01:36:28,168 --> 01:36:31,010 Yes, and that's almost what it looks like here 1361 01:36:31,010 --> 01:36:35,296 but they also have R4 and R5 style buttons too. 1362 01:36:35,296 --> 01:36:37,098 It's very interesting. 1363 01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:45,446 Yeah, it makes a lot of sense because valve, you know, with steam input, they're trying to do as much as they possibly can to give you options to play games that weren't made for a 1364 01:36:45,446 --> 01:36:45,917 controller. 1365 01:36:45,917 --> 01:36:47,129 Yeah. 1366 01:36:48,254 --> 01:36:51,800 Yeah, I mean, mean, they still need to do the PS5. 1367 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,786 They still need to do the PS5 feedback trigger thing. 1368 01:36:57,001 --> 01:36:58,730 dude, that would be so awesome. 1369 01:36:59,453 --> 01:37:00,554 I know we've talked about that. 1370 01:37:00,554 --> 01:37:02,616 That's so good. 1371 01:37:02,616 --> 01:37:06,767 Have you tried the PC stuff yet, James? 1372 01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:17,822 a little bit I have I want to see I want to get it working on the Mac I don't know if that's what I have it it's probably gonna work like the dual sets features on PC I know 1373 01:37:17,822 --> 01:37:22,239 some games on PC you know feature like they have support for some of the duals 1374 01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:26,508 Like the first party like the first party Sony ones that are released on PC 1375 01:37:26,508 --> 01:37:27,250 Yeah, definitely. 1376 01:37:27,250 --> 01:37:37,546 But there are other ones like there are a lot there's a whole list of like third party games that use the analog trigger feedback 1377 01:37:37,546 --> 01:37:41,065 think the Call of Duty games support it. 1378 01:37:41,065 --> 01:37:45,386 Like you have different trigger resistances for different guns that you use in the game. 1379 01:37:45,558 --> 01:37:55,100 Yeah, and there's also like a thing you can get on Steam that like enables support in some games that don't support it out of the box. 1380 01:37:55,500 --> 01:37:56,941 So I have the DualSense Edge. 1381 01:37:56,941 --> 01:37:59,393 I freaking love that controller. 1382 01:37:59,954 --> 01:38:01,174 I absolutely love it. 1383 01:38:01,174 --> 01:38:03,406 It's so it's so good. 1384 01:38:03,406 --> 01:38:06,989 I mean, in the battery life on it's abysmal, but I don't play for hours at a time. 1385 01:38:06,989 --> 01:38:08,960 And I just plug it in when I'm done. 1386 01:38:10,162 --> 01:38:17,237 But I just assumed that 99 % of the features just weren't used on PC. 1387 01:38:17,237 --> 01:38:19,188 So I'm very interested in checking that out. 1388 01:38:19,188 --> 01:38:20,706 That's thank you guys for letting me know. 1389 01:38:20,706 --> 01:38:24,737 Yeah, I mean to be fair that is the case for a lot of games on PC. 1390 01:38:25,091 --> 01:38:25,990 the end. 1391 01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:34,741 But I mean, if a game is released on PS5, and it's also on placed on PC, there's a there's a decent chance that it supports many of the features. 1392 01:38:34,808 --> 01:38:36,738 Half the games, no, that's not fair. 1393 01:38:36,738 --> 01:38:40,051 80 % of the games on PS5 don't support those features. 1394 01:38:40,051 --> 01:38:40,881 Right. 1395 01:38:40,881 --> 01:38:41,331 Right. 1396 01:38:41,331 --> 01:38:46,764 It's like, here's this cool feature, but Xbox doesn't support it, so we don't bother. 1397 01:38:46,764 --> 01:38:47,014 Right. 1398 01:38:47,014 --> 01:38:52,207 Like, that's the thing that, like, that drives me crazy that Xbox still doesn't have gyro. 1399 01:38:52,587 --> 01:38:57,772 If they had gyro, then we would have gyro on, like, every freaking shooter that's available. 1400 01:38:57,772 --> 01:39:02,395 Yeah, the Fortnite kids are learning to embrace are embracing the gyro. 1401 01:39:02,395 --> 01:39:03,286 I've seen it happen. 1402 01:39:03,286 --> 01:39:04,646 It's crazy. 1403 01:39:04,967 --> 01:39:17,856 And if they in all this one, come on, come on, we thought we got switch mouse controllers before we got gyro on the Xbox controller. 1404 01:39:17,856 --> 01:39:19,868 Yeah, that's crazy. 1405 01:39:19,868 --> 01:39:21,358 Yeah, that's true. 1406 01:39:21,679 --> 01:39:26,252 All the kids are going to be using mice and Splatoon and it's going to be kind of scary because like 1407 01:39:26,486 --> 01:39:29,608 The guys that were playing gyro already are really fucking good. 1408 01:39:29,608 --> 01:39:32,490 I'm not gonna lie, I'm not super great with gyro aiming. 1409 01:39:32,490 --> 01:39:33,770 I still have to master it. 1410 01:39:33,770 --> 01:39:40,674 My years of playing Halo on Xbox has not serviced me well when it comes to gyro. 1411 01:39:40,940 --> 01:39:44,572 Have you guys I know that this is another aside. 1412 01:39:44,572 --> 01:39:51,426 Have you guys tried one of these controllers yet for the audio listeners I'm holding up probably the weirdest controller that any of these guys has ever seen. 1413 01:39:51,426 --> 01:39:54,727 You have an alpaca 1414 01:39:54,727 --> 01:39:56,489 do, yeah. 1415 01:39:56,489 --> 01:39:58,221 Mine's black and green. 1416 01:39:58,636 --> 01:39:59,346 Yeah. 1417 01:39:59,346 --> 01:40:03,648 So this thing, it has one stick on the left. 1418 01:40:03,648 --> 01:40:09,349 And then it has a scroll wheel for the audio listeners, it has a scroll wheel on the right. 1419 01:40:09,349 --> 01:40:14,631 And then next to that scroll wheel is this little, it's an eight way. 1420 01:40:15,611 --> 01:40:25,602 Well, this one's not eight way this one, because the original one that came out had like an eight way square hat on it where you could just kind of 1421 01:40:25,602 --> 01:40:35,011 point to say, okay, if I push to the top left, that's one, this one has a few more options on this, I'm working on a video for this, for this thing, but it's a really weird 1422 01:40:35,011 --> 01:40:35,491 controller. 1423 01:40:35,491 --> 01:40:39,734 And you know, the coolest thing about it, two gyroscopes. 1424 01:40:39,995 --> 01:40:44,740 And you might think, why the hell would I want two gyroscopes, they have one that's super sensitive. 1425 01:40:44,740 --> 01:40:47,596 And the other one, which is not nearly as sensitive. 1426 01:40:47,596 --> 01:40:52,059 Which means you can do really big movements and really small movements really, really well. 1427 01:40:52,059 --> 01:40:56,129 It's fantastic, but only for certain games. 1428 01:40:56,940 --> 01:40:58,452 Interesting that looks cool. 1429 01:40:58,452 --> 01:41:03,108 Is that gonna Rick you switch between it or is that like a game? 1430 01:41:03,108 --> 01:41:05,120 I'll have to support it and if I 1431 01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,232 No, it just reads it. 1432 01:41:07,232 --> 01:41:11,096 When you plug this into a computer, it thinks it's a mouse and keyboard. 1433 01:41:12,358 --> 01:41:18,895 So that's the one the one big issue with it is it's like press F and then you have to like which friggin button is the F button. 1434 01:41:18,895 --> 01:41:20,027 I don't remember. 1435 01:41:20,027 --> 01:41:21,287 You know what I mean? 1436 01:41:22,630 --> 01:41:23,672 Yeah. 1437 01:41:23,672 --> 01:41:29,428 Does your D is your D are your D pad also is your D pad also like four individual buttons and not like on a pivot? 1438 01:41:29,730 --> 01:41:32,939 Yeah, it's four individual buttons. 1439 01:41:33,143 --> 01:41:35,208 So it's not good for fighting. 1440 01:41:35,422 --> 01:41:38,202 that's the one thing I don't like about the controller. 1441 01:41:38,222 --> 01:41:40,782 But it is a very unique controller. 1442 01:41:40,782 --> 01:41:42,522 It's very cool too, I thought too. 1443 01:41:42,522 --> 01:41:44,182 You can actually, it's open source as well. 1444 01:41:44,182 --> 01:41:49,402 can 3D print the shell and it uses a Raspberry Pi. 1445 01:41:49,582 --> 01:41:54,102 I forget which Raspberry Pi, but it uses that for the firmware of the controller itself. 1446 01:41:54,102 --> 01:41:55,662 The zero or whatever? 1447 01:41:56,522 --> 01:41:59,402 Or it might be a Pico or I'm not sure. 1448 01:41:59,802 --> 01:42:01,280 All I know is that 1449 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,472 I have one these cool, it's pretty cool. 1450 01:42:05,456 --> 01:42:09,450 I think they use, are these torque screws? 1451 01:42:09,450 --> 01:42:11,785 I think these are torque screws that they use. 1452 01:42:11,785 --> 01:42:13,052 You don't have to. 1453 01:42:13,052 --> 01:42:14,674 not something I could open it. 1454 01:42:15,458 --> 01:42:18,404 It's like a little it looks almost like Alan keys 1455 01:42:19,042 --> 01:42:21,942 That is, it does look kind of like an Allen key, yeah. 1456 01:42:21,942 --> 01:42:22,635 Isn't that Torso? 1457 01:42:22,635 --> 01:42:23,705 Yeah, you're right. 1458 01:42:25,387 --> 01:42:28,348 Yeah, prototype Steam, I want one. 1459 01:42:28,489 --> 01:42:29,382 Just to keep it. 1460 01:42:29,382 --> 01:42:34,350 favorite part of the prototype steam thing is on the back it says, not for resale. 1461 01:42:34,350 --> 01:42:34,988 Yeah. 1462 01:42:34,988 --> 01:42:38,221 Yeah, you think vows gonna ask for that one back? 1463 01:42:39,743 --> 01:42:41,174 They I wouldn't be shocked. 1464 01:42:41,174 --> 01:42:42,606 I that's the thing. 1465 01:42:42,606 --> 01:42:47,611 Okay, first off How did someone get a hold of this to where they could sell it? 1466 01:42:47,611 --> 01:42:54,558 I mean, I'm sure once they were getting to this level they were They mentioned in interviews that I believe that they 1467 01:42:54,592 --> 01:43:07,631 Friends and family kind of thing tried helping Test it out did like some family member get on hard times need $3,000 and sell this like What is going on and then that's that's my 1468 01:43:07,631 --> 01:43:09,232 first thing then too. 1469 01:43:09,372 --> 01:43:11,653 Is this going to do? 1470 01:43:12,094 --> 01:43:15,717 So if they have multiple versions, are we gonna have a version that ends up in a museum? 1471 01:43:15,717 --> 01:43:17,377 I'm kind of hoping 1472 01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:19,183 There's some preservation. 1473 01:43:19,183 --> 01:43:24,370 don't really like private ownership of stuff that's rare. 1474 01:43:24,370 --> 01:43:27,766 I prefer to be, I'm like Indiana Jones, it needs to be in museum. 1475 01:43:27,766 --> 01:43:29,404 It in a museum. 1476 01:43:29,404 --> 01:43:30,657 You got a point. 1477 01:43:31,451 --> 01:43:34,796 That was a fantastic impression. 1478 01:43:35,288 --> 01:43:36,205 Thank you. 1479 01:43:36,205 --> 01:43:37,812 I thought it was pretty bad. 1480 01:43:37,998 --> 01:43:40,558 That's really fucking good. 1481 01:43:40,558 --> 01:43:42,098 It was good. 1482 01:43:42,183 --> 01:43:44,494 I'm gonna do a new Indiana Jones game. 1483 01:43:44,494 --> 01:43:45,168 I'll get you. 1484 01:43:45,168 --> 01:43:45,360 right. 1485 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,826 I'll voice it for you. 1486 01:43:47,662 --> 01:43:50,782 Oh, you think darkness is LA? 1487 01:43:50,782 --> 01:43:52,462 You nearly found it. 1488 01:43:52,542 --> 01:43:54,922 I was born in it. 1489 01:43:54,922 --> 01:43:56,562 Molded by it. 1490 01:43:58,998 --> 01:44:00,886 Yeah, that sucks. 1491 01:44:00,886 --> 01:44:02,694 Bill, I got a voice for you. 1492 01:44:02,694 --> 01:44:04,181 They're gonna go off the rails here. 1493 01:44:04,181 --> 01:44:05,823 Do know Homestar Runner? 1494 01:44:07,147 --> 01:44:08,088 Yeah. 1495 01:44:08,650 --> 01:44:10,062 What are doing here, Bill? 1496 01:44:10,062 --> 01:44:11,654 I thought this was the... 1497 01:44:12,888 --> 01:44:14,320 pretty freaking great. 1498 01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,081 is really good. 1499 01:44:16,081 --> 01:44:16,892 Raggy. 1500 01:44:16,892 --> 01:44:18,012 Raggy. 1501 01:44:21,514 --> 01:44:22,474 Yeah. 1502 01:44:22,674 --> 01:44:25,136 Alright, I'm done with my voices. 1503 01:44:25,136 --> 01:44:27,076 I can only do like three voices. 1504 01:44:27,517 --> 01:44:28,797 I don't do voices. 1505 01:44:28,797 --> 01:44:33,900 Every time I attempt to do it when I like in this type of situation always ends up being bad. 1506 01:44:33,900 --> 01:44:38,402 You know the most talented voice like imitators can do Donald Duck voices. 1507 01:44:38,900 --> 01:44:43,292 pretty yeah that I can't do Donald 1508 01:44:43,602 --> 01:44:44,902 think any of us can. 1509 01:44:45,324 --> 01:44:46,785 Unless Bill can. 1510 01:44:47,470 --> 01:44:48,539 You'll never know. 1511 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:49,853 Yeah. 1512 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,716 So, what's the next story? 1513 01:44:58,773 --> 01:44:59,734 Bladerunner. 1514 01:45:00,154 --> 01:45:00,854 Yes. 1515 01:45:01,594 --> 01:45:03,934 So it's actually not about Bladerunner. 1516 01:45:03,934 --> 01:45:04,594 That's pretty good. 1517 01:45:04,594 --> 01:45:08,314 It's about the company that's... 1518 01:45:08,314 --> 01:45:11,694 So I don't know if this... 1519 01:45:11,694 --> 01:45:12,634 I don't know if this document... 1520 01:45:12,634 --> 01:45:14,014 I have ad block on it. 1521 01:45:14,014 --> 01:45:16,034 I don't know why these ads are popping up, but whatever. 1522 01:45:16,034 --> 01:45:16,894 OK. 1523 01:45:16,994 --> 01:45:22,114 So I don't know if this article actually has the Elon Musk AI generated picture. 1524 01:45:23,454 --> 01:45:25,760 But so basically what happened was that... 1525 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,572 Elon Musk for a promotional picture for the next Tesla. 1526 01:45:30,674 --> 01:45:32,635 Generated an AI picture. 1527 01:45:32,635 --> 01:45:36,558 And it looks strikingly similar to this minus the car. 1528 01:45:38,754 --> 01:45:43,054 Yeah, because AI is just stealing people's work. 1529 01:45:43,054 --> 01:45:45,174 Yes, and that's the story here. 1530 01:45:45,174 --> 01:45:54,654 Alcon Entertainment, the guys that produced Blade Runner 2049, is suing Elon Musk and Tesla for copyright infringement and trademark infringement. 1531 01:45:54,734 --> 01:45:57,594 So they lost the trademark claims. 1532 01:45:57,614 --> 01:46:00,174 That was tossed out of court. 1533 01:46:00,174 --> 01:46:04,274 But the copyright infringement case is free to move forward. 1534 01:46:05,454 --> 01:46:08,054 that's the story. 1535 01:46:08,454 --> 01:46:12,652 They dismissed the trademark claim as it was working off of quote unquote 1536 01:46:12,652 --> 01:46:23,223 information and belief, as per the judge, but thanks to that they can move forward with copyright infringement, which is arguably the more important lawsuit that needs to be 1537 01:46:23,223 --> 01:46:24,193 pursued. 1538 01:46:26,324 --> 01:46:28,477 I have two opinions on this. 1539 01:46:28,477 --> 01:46:35,565 Number one, Elon Musk is a douchebag and anything that hurts him is okay with me as long as it's not like physical harm. 1540 01:46:35,565 --> 01:46:43,294 But at the same time, I mean, it's a picture of a wasteland that happens to be orange. 1541 01:46:45,358 --> 01:46:51,518 Yeah, think there's a lot of ways that you can come up with that and not have it have anything to do with Blade Runner You know what? 1542 01:46:51,518 --> 01:46:52,218 mean? 1543 01:46:52,218 --> 01:46:53,078 Yeah 1544 01:46:53,976 --> 01:46:59,734 I I get what you're saying, but at the same time though, you've seen the picture in the document, right? 1545 01:47:00,032 --> 01:47:08,947 I mean I scrolled down I can see the two pictures there's one with a car and then one with a guy standing with a trench coat on with no car. 1546 01:47:09,989 --> 01:47:12,470 Are these the two pictures that we're supposed to be looking at? 1547 01:47:13,567 --> 01:47:23,450 I get what you're saying, it's an orange wasteland, but at same time though, they didn't have to make it look strikingly similar to this shot in particular. 1548 01:47:24,031 --> 01:47:24,911 Minus the car. 1549 01:47:24,911 --> 01:47:28,372 I'd rather have that Blade Runner car to be honest, it looks pretty cool. 1550 01:47:28,632 --> 01:47:34,304 It also opens up upwards like a Lamborghini, so yeah, that's the picture right there. 1551 01:47:34,390 --> 01:47:45,481 That's the generated one, Yeah, so I think this is objectively a good thing, this law, that lawsuit can move forward in terms of copyright, because I mean the main reason why 1552 01:47:45,481 --> 01:47:55,250 the trademark failed was because there wasn't like a Blade Runner logo on this picture, so that's probably why, that's most likely why it failed, but the visuals... 1553 01:47:57,870 --> 01:48:01,690 And it has been confirmed that this is AI being used. 1554 01:48:01,750 --> 01:48:05,490 So it's not like some artist made a picture that looks like Blade Runner. 1555 01:48:05,490 --> 01:48:07,490 It's an AI that did it. 1556 01:48:07,490 --> 01:48:08,954 it's going to 1557 01:48:08,954 --> 01:48:10,895 know, AI just steals. 1558 01:48:10,895 --> 01:48:17,038 My question here, if you look at that picture that's on screen right now, what does that have to do with Tesla? 1559 01:48:17,534 --> 01:48:19,140 What that have to do with fricking cars? 1560 01:48:19,140 --> 01:48:24,723 It's just showing like a cityscape that's covered in orange dust. 1561 01:48:24,723 --> 01:48:26,623 What does that have to do with cars? 1562 01:48:28,625 --> 01:48:29,945 that makes sense, okay. 1563 01:48:29,945 --> 01:48:39,211 He yeah, he has a big fast and I used to like that he did but he's lost the plot Honestly, I don't mind if he moves to Mars. 1564 01:48:39,211 --> 01:48:41,093 Let him let him let him have Mars. 1565 01:48:41,093 --> 01:48:53,941 Well, what I mean, he's not gonna do any harm there Mars You need to watch the expanse man wars happen That's a good sci-fi show by the way that everyone should watch the expanse 1566 01:48:55,880 --> 01:49:02,674 Yeah, it's it's car commercials commercials period can be so bizarre, right? 1567 01:49:02,674 --> 01:49:03,555 Sometimes. 1568 01:49:03,555 --> 01:49:04,615 So I get where he's going. 1569 01:49:04,615 --> 01:49:24,066 But the whole AI training thing that's going on where it uses existing art, copyrighted art, just so much to train it to them be able to create new pieces of art is 1570 01:49:24,746 --> 01:49:31,471 troubling because the people that are not getting paid for it. 1571 01:49:31,471 --> 01:49:35,033 there's some ethical like I it was interesting. 1572 01:49:35,113 --> 01:49:41,097 Recently I was contacted by a company that wanted to process a bunch of my YouTube videos for payment. 1573 01:49:41,097 --> 01:49:43,269 Same here. 1574 01:49:43,269 --> 01:49:43,879 Yeah. 1575 01:49:43,879 --> 01:49:47,982 And so it's like well it's a little bit more ethical but I don't know to trust or anything like that. 1576 01:49:47,982 --> 01:49:52,545 But it's like at least they're asking and paying for it. 1577 01:49:52,545 --> 01:49:53,314 That's 1578 01:49:53,314 --> 01:50:02,838 No, I hope you said no, a good yeah, I would know I'm a kid 1579 01:50:02,838 --> 01:50:12,638 should accept but you should make like a thousand really shitty videos well where's this you saying a single like letter and then it trains off of that instead of your good shit 1580 01:50:12,638 --> 01:50:26,694 and then you sabotage their AI and my videos prior worth much but if I did I'd be like okay yeah I have to be I have a big payday cash first to sell out cash out 1581 01:50:27,148 --> 01:50:34,061 so i can become a publisher and you know go to sea level or exact route as a business even published 1582 01:50:38,894 --> 01:50:41,674 I'll be wiping my tears off with cash. 1583 01:50:41,674 --> 01:50:42,874 ugh. 1584 01:50:43,215 --> 01:50:46,956 man, just don't pretend to play Path of Exile 2. 1585 01:50:46,956 --> 01:50:49,617 And also don't pretend to play it on stream. 1586 01:50:50,077 --> 01:50:52,058 It's okay, I don't think I'd play that. 1587 01:50:52,058 --> 01:50:54,018 I have other games I'd rather play. 1588 01:50:55,259 --> 01:50:56,459 I'm not saying it's a bad game. 1589 01:50:56,459 --> 01:50:57,919 It's not a bad game. 1590 01:50:57,919 --> 01:51:07,842 You know, at first I was kind of wondering why they didn't ban Elon Musk, because I mean, if they were any other person they would have banned him for account sharing. 1591 01:51:08,130 --> 01:51:19,080 But at the same time though, Elon Musk's getting obliterated by a tutorial boss in Path of Exile 2, I think it was worth keeping as a count around. 1592 01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,452 And also he was getting- Sorry, go ahead. 1593 01:51:23,086 --> 01:51:29,102 I just gonna say I think it's a good thing that they didn't ban him because he would have retaliated by buying them and then ruining the game. 1594 01:51:29,102 --> 01:51:30,162 Oh no. 1595 01:51:30,162 --> 01:51:31,522 Probably true. 1596 01:51:31,522 --> 01:51:37,862 Oh, speaking of You don't, sorry, don't ban your cash cow or your well. 1597 01:51:37,862 --> 01:51:38,862 That's what the term is. 1598 01:51:38,862 --> 01:51:40,022 You don't ban your wells. 1599 01:51:40,022 --> 01:51:41,262 He's a well. 1600 01:51:41,542 --> 01:51:43,522 They make a lot of money off him. 1601 01:51:44,302 --> 01:51:45,522 Yeah, so here's the thing. 1602 01:51:45,522 --> 01:51:55,222 So he's also been getting a lot of whispers from guys he's renamed Elon underscore is underscore a underscore pedophile. 1603 01:51:55,642 --> 01:51:59,384 And then the guy spamming his DMs in a 1604 01:51:59,384 --> 01:52:03,159 Path of Exile 2, you have no real friends and will die alone. 1605 01:52:03,159 --> 01:52:08,645 And you can see Elon's face as like he sees the message in his private jet. 1606 01:52:08,705 --> 01:52:12,369 And on one hand, harassment is not okay. 1607 01:52:13,114 --> 01:52:17,636 But on the other hand, I don't feel sorry for Elon. 1608 01:52:18,357 --> 01:52:19,106 But do you 1609 01:52:19,106 --> 01:52:23,582 feel sorry for him, but I think that stooping to his level is. 1610 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:29,542 I don't like harassment, at least do something on point like, hey, stop meddling in the government or whatever else you want to do. 1611 01:52:29,542 --> 01:52:33,723 Like least have a pointed message that bothers him a little bit. 1612 01:52:33,723 --> 01:52:34,873 That's not just. 1613 01:52:34,873 --> 01:52:35,813 Yeah. 1614 01:52:36,194 --> 01:52:37,194 Because. 1615 01:52:40,275 --> 01:52:42,825 We he has plenty you can complain about. 1616 01:52:42,825 --> 01:52:46,837 yeah, well, yeah, harassment is not OK. 1617 01:52:46,837 --> 01:52:49,297 Off the council does not condone harassment. 1618 01:52:49,297 --> 01:52:51,358 And I think I speak for all of us, right? 1619 01:52:52,524 --> 01:52:54,517 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 1620 01:52:55,821 --> 01:52:59,137 But yeah, Blade Runner 2049 is a really good movie. 1621 01:52:59,137 --> 01:53:00,368 You should watch it. 1622 01:53:00,770 --> 01:53:01,662 Support the art tours. 1623 01:53:01,662 --> 01:53:02,533 made it. 1624 01:53:04,035 --> 01:53:06,979 Yeah, just realized high tech has an orange background. 1625 01:53:06,979 --> 01:53:08,869 You're frickin cooked, man. 1626 01:53:12,803 --> 01:53:16,060 You know this used to be a blue background actually. 1627 01:53:18,606 --> 01:53:20,366 I uh... 1628 01:53:20,366 --> 01:53:21,306 Oh shit. 1629 01:53:21,306 --> 01:53:21,886 Did it? 1630 01:53:21,886 --> 01:53:22,206 It did. 1631 01:53:22,206 --> 01:53:24,126 I don't know if I've ever seen it blue. 1632 01:53:24,906 --> 01:53:25,586 Blue? 1633 01:53:25,626 --> 01:53:30,846 It wasn't ever blue for you guys, but it's that the actual image itself is blue. 1634 01:53:34,318 --> 01:53:38,378 Boy, and it looks like you're getting ready for the next topic. 1635 01:53:38,678 --> 01:53:39,818 I am. 1636 01:53:39,818 --> 01:53:40,638 Yes. 1637 01:53:40,638 --> 01:53:41,818 Switch 2. 1638 01:53:42,398 --> 01:53:44,178 Yes, what is this, Hitech? 1639 01:53:44,178 --> 01:53:47,618 So there's a lot more Switch 2 shenanigans. 1640 01:53:47,618 --> 01:53:52,778 Last week, Bill, you missed it, but last week was Nintendo week, baby. 1641 01:53:53,278 --> 01:53:54,438 All of the time. 1642 01:53:55,938 --> 01:53:58,238 Yeah, but the look. 1643 01:53:58,238 --> 01:54:02,318 So there's a lot that's been announced since that week. 1644 01:54:03,182 --> 01:54:04,202 quite a few things. 1645 01:54:04,202 --> 01:54:07,742 First and foremost, we don't know if... 1646 01:54:07,742 --> 01:54:17,162 I think Nintendo has since confirmed that Switch 2 editions of Switch 1 games will be in, like, all in one cartridge. 1647 01:54:17,502 --> 01:54:18,662 Or at least that's what one source says. 1648 01:54:18,662 --> 01:54:24,682 Another source says that it'll just be the Switch 1 cartridge and a download code for the upgrade pack, which sucks. 1649 01:54:26,168 --> 01:54:31,296 So that was from somebody getting a hold of Nintendo support. 1650 01:54:31,296 --> 01:54:37,365 And then the other one, the first one that you said where it is on the cartridge was from a Nintendo spokesperson. 1651 01:54:37,365 --> 01:54:41,901 So I would trust the one that says that it has this stuff on the cartridge. 1652 01:54:41,978 --> 01:54:46,158 so we can we can we're not we don't have to worry about that point anymore, which is good. 1653 01:54:46,158 --> 01:54:59,098 Um, that said breath of the wild Switch to edition does not come with the DLC For breath of the wild you still have to buy that separately and I don't know how much that costs now 1654 01:54:59,098 --> 01:55:09,898 So that's a fact so if you were buying breath of the wild for the first time that's like effectively a $90 video game 1655 01:55:11,138 --> 01:55:11,738 Don't lie. 1656 01:55:11,738 --> 01:55:24,825 Yeah, I actually DLCs are difficult because I if I beat the game before the DLC comes out, there's a good chance I might not play that DLC ever. 1657 01:55:25,046 --> 01:55:25,526 Yeah. 1658 01:55:25,526 --> 01:55:30,048 And so sometimes I like to wait for complete additions to them play the game. 1659 01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:31,660 Then I'll play it with the DLC. 1660 01:55:31,660 --> 01:55:37,933 But come on now, Nintendo's not exactly a complete edition of a single video game ever. 1661 01:55:38,753 --> 01:55:40,074 do they not do that? 1662 01:55:40,578 --> 01:55:41,129 Yeah, they did. 1663 01:55:41,129 --> 01:55:51,040 when Mario Kart 8 was originally a Wii U game, and then when it came to the Switch, it included all of the DLC that you could have purchased on the Wii U. 1664 01:55:51,040 --> 01:56:00,155 What I'm saying is, we didn't get a Mario Kart 8 DX Completes Edition where it included all the DLC that we got on the Switch. 1665 01:56:01,950 --> 01:56:02,937 Like Smash Bros. 1666 01:56:02,937 --> 01:56:07,119 Ultimate, for example, has a shit ton of DLC, they never... 1667 01:56:07,119 --> 01:56:08,160 and that's like one of the... 1668 01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:13,713 like fighting games are pretty popular because they do re-release the games with DLC. 1669 01:56:13,713 --> 01:56:18,285 And yeah, Smash never got that treatment, of course. 1670 01:56:19,362 --> 01:56:21,649 Nintendo games don't tend to get this treatment. 1671 01:56:21,649 --> 01:56:26,521 The Mario Kart, well, 8 Deluxe is kind of a weird situation because that was a port. 1672 01:56:29,955 --> 01:56:31,746 I don't touch games like that very often. 1673 01:56:31,746 --> 01:56:37,680 I like playing those types of games, but I don't get the DLCs typically because they're just scattered everywhere. 1674 01:56:37,861 --> 01:56:38,501 It's a mess. 1675 01:56:38,501 --> 01:56:39,662 I don't like it. 1676 01:56:42,365 --> 01:56:54,564 Another Nintendo controversy was due to the fact that Nintendo, I think it was Doug Bowser that said that they understand that the Switch 2 may be priced too high for certain 1677 01:56:54,564 --> 01:56:55,175 consumers. 1678 01:56:55,175 --> 01:56:59,308 That's why they're keeping the Switch available for the poor people. 1679 01:57:00,430 --> 01:57:01,810 And you know what that reminds me of? 1680 01:57:01,810 --> 01:57:02,370 I think you... 1681 01:57:02,370 --> 01:57:03,450 think... 1682 01:57:03,450 --> 01:57:04,970 Oh, god damn it. 1683 01:57:07,214 --> 01:57:08,074 is this it? 1684 01:57:08,074 --> 01:57:09,174 what's wrong? 1685 01:57:09,174 --> 01:57:13,274 sorry, the- oh you're good, you're good. 1686 01:57:13,274 --> 01:57:15,234 oh this is gonna be a fun edit. 1687 01:57:15,234 --> 01:57:16,054 yeah. 1688 01:57:16,054 --> 01:57:17,138 such a edit for me. 1689 01:57:17,138 --> 01:57:21,470 Just leave it in and then sell t-shirts with a garage door opener on it. 1690 01:57:21,863 --> 01:57:24,105 Alright, so back to the topic at hand. 1691 01:57:25,007 --> 01:57:34,562 Doug Bowser said that the Switch 1 is still available for families that can't afford the Switch 2, which doesn't make any sense. 1692 01:57:34,562 --> 01:57:36,441 I'm not saying it doesn't make any sense. 1693 01:57:36,441 --> 01:57:40,846 What I'm saying is, all I'm getting is Don Matric vibes. 1694 01:57:41,853 --> 01:57:42,754 Yeah. 1695 01:57:43,854 --> 01:57:50,254 I love that moment when Jeff Keely is like, so your so your message is stick with the Xbox 360. 1696 01:57:50,254 --> 01:57:52,434 And he's like, Oh, no, that's not my message. 1697 01:57:52,594 --> 01:57:55,434 I wish someone had called him on it right there. 1698 01:57:55,586 --> 01:58:07,960 duck buzzer or well I mean the problem is that we're not dealing with Microsoft we're the fucking Nintendo and people are okay with Nintendo and whatever they want apparently power 1699 01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:22,514 world lawsuit no big deal the joycon drift no big deal and I mean shit man the switch to you I mean the joycon 2s they're not getting analog they're not getting hall of fx takes 1700 01:58:22,954 --> 01:58:29,284 And one has to wonder if it's even possible given the Switch 2's magnetic functionality. 1701 01:58:30,710 --> 01:58:31,411 Right? 1702 01:58:31,411 --> 01:58:32,351 Yeah. 1703 01:58:32,932 --> 01:58:35,735 That's something I didn't think of when I was when I was thinking about it. 1704 01:58:35,735 --> 01:58:46,776 But when you get the switch to and you just it snaps on on the side, because of the magnets, if you have a hall effect, if you have a magnetic joystick here, that doesn't 1705 01:58:46,776 --> 01:58:49,789 make any like it wouldn't I don't think it could work. 1706 01:58:49,789 --> 01:58:51,932 Is there a way to shield it? 1707 01:58:51,932 --> 01:58:52,920 I don't know. 1708 01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:54,333 You shield electronics. 1709 01:58:54,386 --> 01:58:55,477 Hell a lot of shielding. 1710 01:58:55,477 --> 01:59:00,890 You can shield stuff, but I don't know how much it'd be worth it, especially with that strong of a magnet. 1711 01:59:00,890 --> 01:59:06,233 I don't think you could fit it in a Joy-Con 2 chassis, to be honest. 1712 01:59:07,136 --> 01:59:18,053 I feel like if you put like something in there that was magnetic or ferrous in any way, it would end up becoming magnetic over time. 1713 01:59:18,100 --> 01:59:19,723 I don't think it's possible. 1714 01:59:19,906 --> 01:59:22,708 So that means no no hall effect, no TMR. 1715 01:59:22,708 --> 01:59:23,722 That's right. 1716 01:59:23,722 --> 01:59:26,851 You'd have to come up with some sort of newfangled 1717 01:59:28,654 --> 01:59:29,585 Please just. 1718 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:38,333 Yeah, but Nintendo says that they made with made it with more durable materials. 1719 01:59:39,278 --> 01:59:43,418 So I might be the outlier here doesn't matter that much. 1720 01:59:43,418 --> 01:59:55,758 I don't know like I know they've had issues with the switch one, but That was you know, they remedy that unless you're playing like like they're absorbing an amount on the 1721 01:59:55,758 --> 02:00:05,998 controller and putting a lot of stress on it like I Don't typically have issues with stick drift with my controllers unless my kids get a hold of it and like do some damage and I 1722 02:00:05,998 --> 02:00:07,058 don't even know 1723 02:00:07,534 --> 02:00:08,154 I don't know. 1724 02:00:08,154 --> 02:00:09,585 I mean, to be honest... 1725 02:00:09,585 --> 02:00:21,835 nice to my controllers and I did get drift on one of my I think it was my right joy con on the Nintendo switch the one advantage like if I had drift on my steam deck or on my ROG 1726 02:00:21,835 --> 02:00:31,353 ally or any of those other devices that would be bad that would be real bad because this is a whole freaking device at least with a switch and a switch to you could take the joy 1727 02:00:31,353 --> 02:00:38,087 con off and just say I'm gonna mail this to Nintendo and in the meantime I put another one on there and be fine 1728 02:00:38,087 --> 02:00:45,090 So there is a good thing about the controllers being separatable from the main device. 1729 02:00:45,090 --> 02:00:48,532 Well, and that makes it even easier to replace the joysticks on it. 1730 02:00:48,532 --> 02:00:58,909 Like I might be an outlier here, but I've replaced multiple joysticks on switch switches because my kids and then also Steam Deck. 1731 02:00:58,909 --> 02:01:06,904 I've never had problems actually with the original Steam Deck controllers or joysticks, but I've had actually issues with the Hall effect ones. 1732 02:01:07,225 --> 02:01:08,684 And so, yeah, the first go. 1733 02:01:08,684 --> 02:01:09,838 We'll see. 1734 02:01:10,165 --> 02:01:10,894 Go ahead. 1735 02:01:10,894 --> 02:01:12,445 The first Gull kit ones weren't that great. 1736 02:01:12,445 --> 02:01:16,076 think they locked into specific areas on this stick. 1737 02:01:16,076 --> 02:01:16,960 don't know. 1738 02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:18,281 They've improved it. 1739 02:01:18,281 --> 02:01:20,983 I've used the newer ones, still. 1740 02:01:22,324 --> 02:01:23,585 people that really... 1741 02:01:23,585 --> 02:01:25,737 It does... 1742 02:01:25,737 --> 02:01:28,589 Precision and some other stuff, it does get a little better. 1743 02:01:28,630 --> 02:01:33,314 For people where that matters, I think it's worth the upgrade. 1744 02:01:33,314 --> 02:01:37,854 I think most people will not really notice, and it's not really worth it. 1745 02:01:38,822 --> 02:01:46,126 I think a lot of people think hall effect is just better and that's not necessarily the case. 1746 02:01:46,366 --> 02:01:52,650 Hall effect is different and less likely to experience drift, but it doesn't necessarily make it better. 1747 02:01:52,650 --> 02:01:57,243 I think it has to do with what kind of materials go into the process of building these things. 1748 02:01:57,243 --> 02:02:04,267 And if you pick cheap shitty materials and make a hall effect controller, you get a shitty hall effect controller. 1749 02:02:04,267 --> 02:02:06,688 And if you pick nice materials, 1750 02:02:06,688 --> 02:02:11,102 and build a potentiometer controller, then you'll have a nice potentiometer controller. 1751 02:02:11,102 --> 02:02:15,085 It's not necessarily that one is better than the other. 1752 02:02:15,890 --> 02:02:18,612 Hall effects also use up more power too. 1753 02:02:18,612 --> 02:02:23,956 That's part of why TMR sticks exist because TMR uses less power than Hall effect sticks. 1754 02:02:25,017 --> 02:02:27,219 didn't realize they used to the... 1755 02:02:27,219 --> 02:02:30,361 I don't think they use so much power that it'll like take your... 1756 02:02:30,361 --> 02:02:35,585 it'll like have your Steam Deck's battery life but I think it just does use more power intrinsically. 1757 02:02:35,585 --> 02:02:37,416 No, that is interesting. 1758 02:02:37,416 --> 02:02:38,827 The Hall effect... 1759 02:02:38,827 --> 02:02:39,888 yeah, I'll say this. 1760 02:02:39,888 --> 02:02:40,948 Hall effect... 1761 02:02:41,109 --> 02:02:43,070 if you want to avoid stick drift... 1762 02:02:44,204 --> 02:02:46,295 go for it, whole effect all the way. 1763 02:02:46,556 --> 02:02:52,891 But I rarely experience it and I'm at this point where I can just replace a joystick if I have to. 1764 02:02:52,891 --> 02:02:56,944 And that's usually due to kids because they're really rough on those sticks. 1765 02:02:57,646 --> 02:03:05,966 will say replacing the stick in the Steam Deck or other more modular devices like that, much easier than in the Switch. 1766 02:03:05,966 --> 02:03:08,666 pulled it, I took a Joy-Con apart once. 1767 02:03:09,086 --> 02:03:10,686 Could not get it back together. 1768 02:03:10,686 --> 02:03:11,626 no. 1769 02:03:13,006 --> 02:03:18,306 I was like, it's just so small and my hands are too big and I couldn't get it to go back together. 1770 02:03:18,306 --> 02:03:20,866 So I eventually just threw it in the trash. 1771 02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:22,601 no, you should've... 1772 02:03:22,601 --> 02:03:23,982 Yeah, it's definitely... 1773 02:03:23,982 --> 02:03:25,583 They don't make it too easy. 1774 02:03:25,583 --> 02:03:27,454 I've replaced a few. 1775 02:03:27,574 --> 02:03:33,392 And I can definitely tell you, to get it back together can take a little bit, for sure. 1776 02:03:33,392 --> 02:03:37,307 gotta have everything in exactly the right position and then you can close it up. 1777 02:03:37,307 --> 02:03:39,249 I could not get it to close 1778 02:03:40,192 --> 02:03:41,494 Just treat that one as a practice one. 1779 02:03:41,494 --> 02:03:44,168 You just toss it and like, this is a practice and go to the next one. 1780 02:03:44,168 --> 02:03:47,322 And then break that one and then just keep practicing until you get one together. 1781 02:03:47,322 --> 02:03:48,873 You'll eventually get there. 1782 02:03:53,326 --> 02:03:56,395 Yeah, if you don't have enough control, you got to buy one anyways 1783 02:03:57,092 --> 02:04:03,050 Yeah, get I can reach right now I can reach like 12 controllers in here 1784 02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:03,941 Yeah. 1785 02:04:03,941 --> 02:04:09,617 So one more thing too, the switch to will not come with a system wide achievement system. 1786 02:04:10,860 --> 02:04:12,261 What are you talking about? 1787 02:04:13,102 --> 02:04:14,545 That's not surprising. 1788 02:04:16,906 --> 02:04:18,067 So weird. 1789 02:04:18,067 --> 02:04:21,700 SheaBit systems are really fun and they're already being done on everything else. 1790 02:04:21,700 --> 02:04:22,461 So why not? 1791 02:04:22,461 --> 02:04:32,960 Like it's a easy win to just include that system that can integrate with and be more compatible maybe with other systems. 1792 02:04:33,020 --> 02:04:34,621 It's just an easy win. 1793 02:04:35,663 --> 02:04:38,585 I like knowing that I can 100 % the games I love. 1794 02:04:38,585 --> 02:04:41,868 I don't usually do it, but it's a few games I will do it. 1795 02:04:42,689 --> 02:04:43,924 Yeah, like. 1796 02:04:43,924 --> 02:04:50,831 Honestly, the main reason why I'm even trying to 100 % Pilato is because those are tied to achievements. 1797 02:04:52,598 --> 02:04:57,322 I know that I'm a weirdo and I do not give a shit about achievements. 1798 02:04:57,322 --> 02:05:03,047 When I play a game on my Xbox and I get that stupid pop up saying, Hey, you just earned an achievement. 1799 02:05:03,047 --> 02:05:04,728 I find it annoying. 1800 02:05:04,949 --> 02:05:08,261 I never go and try and do achievements. 1801 02:05:08,261 --> 02:05:11,914 My son does he thinks the trophies and achievements are cool. 1802 02:05:11,914 --> 02:05:13,956 I know that I am the minority here. 1803 02:05:13,956 --> 02:05:15,598 I don't care about achievements. 1804 02:05:15,598 --> 02:05:20,001 I still think Nintendo should do it because a of people do care about it. 1805 02:05:20,242 --> 02:05:21,222 But 1806 02:05:21,506 --> 02:05:26,389 The switch is a weird thing, because the switch is not always online. 1807 02:05:26,389 --> 02:05:30,391 An Xbox and a PlayStation, they're almost always connected to the internet. 1808 02:05:30,391 --> 02:05:38,725 And I wonder if Nintendo is thinking, we can't guarantee that these achievements aren't going to be like you'll do something in the game. 1809 02:05:38,725 --> 02:05:47,910 And maybe it won't be able to issue the achievement because it's not connected to the internet, or maybe people will game the system and get achievements that they didn't 1810 02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:49,521 really deserve. 1811 02:05:49,521 --> 02:05:51,640 Not that anybody gives a damn. 1812 02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,368 But maybe that's a reason why. 1813 02:05:56,135 --> 02:06:03,979 I if you take the Steam deck offline, you still get achievements and it still properly documents when you got it, I think. 1814 02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:05,561 It's been a while. 1815 02:06:05,561 --> 02:06:07,621 There's ways to do it. 1816 02:06:08,662 --> 02:06:12,445 They have so many examples that would be very low effort. 1817 02:06:12,445 --> 02:06:14,746 I just don't think they want like. 1818 02:06:15,466 --> 02:06:20,309 Nintendo does not do live services and do certain services very well. 1819 02:06:20,309 --> 02:06:21,990 Like their subscription. 1820 02:06:22,294 --> 02:06:33,406 service all their subscriptions are just garbage in my opinion and so It definitely looks like switch to will have better services like you watched Like if you watch the reveal of 1821 02:06:33,406 --> 02:06:34,708 switch to or whatever. 1822 02:06:34,708 --> 02:06:37,100 Well, like was like last week 1823 02:06:39,794 --> 02:06:43,935 I their discord like chat was kind of. 1824 02:06:45,116 --> 02:06:47,717 Yeah, that's what it was too. 1825 02:06:47,917 --> 02:06:48,746 I don't actually. 1826 02:06:48,746 --> 02:06:49,226 And here's the thing. 1827 02:06:49,226 --> 02:06:53,330 I actually don't mind how they're doing because it's such a step up above of what they already have. 1828 02:06:53,330 --> 02:07:02,683 Like it's so much better, but it is they just what they charge for is doesn't feel like you get what you. 1829 02:07:04,804 --> 02:07:05,605 You should out of it. 1830 02:07:05,605 --> 02:07:07,245 Yeah, they charge too much. 1831 02:07:07,485 --> 02:07:09,246 So I will say this. 1832 02:07:09,290 --> 02:07:18,335 Whenever you see a new game release on Steam without achievements, I guarantee you, one of the first things people will ask for is achievements. 1833 02:07:18,335 --> 02:07:21,517 the demand for achievements are there. 1834 02:07:21,817 --> 02:07:28,685 I would like to know why Nintendo doesn't do it, because at this point it can't be like a, they're just behind the times thing. 1835 02:07:28,685 --> 02:07:31,102 Because they basically fucking implement a Discord. 1836 02:07:31,402 --> 02:07:34,104 But like a bootleg Discord. 1837 02:07:34,104 --> 02:07:38,080 So I'd like to know what the philosophy is behind them not in... 1838 02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:40,010 not implementing it. 1839 02:07:40,052 --> 02:07:42,613 What discord or achievements? 1840 02:07:43,004 --> 02:07:44,915 achievements, achievements. 1841 02:07:44,955 --> 02:07:45,215 geez. 1842 02:07:45,215 --> 02:07:46,196 Yeah, no, I agree. 1843 02:07:46,196 --> 02:07:48,107 Like, I think it's laziness. 1844 02:07:48,107 --> 02:07:57,955 I think it's partially like they the whole their whole live services, all that stuff, except for the new video chat actually doesn't feel like it's laziness. 1845 02:07:57,955 --> 02:08:03,919 But everything else feels like just that they didn't care about they did not give it the time of day. 1846 02:08:03,919 --> 02:08:04,169 Yeah. 1847 02:08:04,169 --> 02:08:05,742 But what's weird, though, is that 1848 02:08:05,742 --> 02:08:14,142 quite a few games that Nintendo develops and publishes have like little in-game achievement systems in the game itself. 1849 02:08:14,282 --> 02:08:16,302 Like not tied to the system of course. 1850 02:08:17,402 --> 02:08:22,442 Which I do find, if they're gonna do that, why not implement it system-wide? 1851 02:08:22,442 --> 02:08:27,762 I bet you it would save on game storage or whatever, I don't know. 1852 02:08:27,762 --> 02:08:34,274 They must not have very good inner team communication or... 1853 02:08:34,274 --> 02:08:44,883 When you get into big companies like this, how things work, if you don't have a good cohesive system for inner, especially systems that would touch each other, if you don't do 1854 02:08:44,883 --> 02:08:55,172 a lot of meetings and design meetings and design the systems out along with the developers, you end up with stuff like this, personally. 1855 02:08:55,172 --> 02:08:55,773 it's... 1856 02:08:55,773 --> 02:08:57,484 God damn it, Nintendo. 1857 02:08:59,564 --> 02:09:01,915 Yeah. 1858 02:09:01,915 --> 02:09:03,396 So maybe eventually they'll implement it. 1859 02:09:03,396 --> 02:09:03,746 Who knows? 1860 02:09:03,746 --> 02:09:05,337 Maybe there'll be a system down the road. 1861 02:09:05,337 --> 02:09:06,868 Like it doesn't have to be tight. 1862 02:09:06,868 --> 02:09:07,956 They could easily. 1863 02:09:07,956 --> 02:09:09,500 It's a software system, the thing. 1864 02:09:09,500 --> 02:09:15,343 So they could easily implement it, not tied to switch to, but like a year down the road as an update. 1865 02:09:15,343 --> 02:09:18,985 So also one last thing, too, this kind of a small point. 1866 02:09:18,985 --> 02:09:27,180 They're still making switch to cartridges taste bad, which I do agree with, because, you know, kids will put that shit in their mouth for some reason. 1867 02:09:28,362 --> 02:09:31,644 The latest TikTok challenge putting switch cartridges in your mouth. 1868 02:09:32,305 --> 02:09:32,976 The latest? 1869 02:09:32,976 --> 02:09:33,736 they already did that. 1870 02:09:33,736 --> 02:09:42,213 I've had my son lick the cartridge and it was when he was little and it was he didn't he knows not to ever eat or try to eat that. 1871 02:09:42,213 --> 02:09:43,434 Good on the time for that. 1872 02:09:43,434 --> 02:09:44,314 Now. 1873 02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:45,872 That's a idea. 1874 02:09:46,899 --> 02:09:49,445 They should do that with micro SD cards too. 1875 02:09:49,710 --> 02:09:52,750 Yeah, you can also probably get a spray for it too. 1876 02:09:52,750 --> 02:09:54,210 Like get some of that dog spray. 1877 02:09:54,210 --> 02:09:56,910 I'm sure they Oh, yeah speaking of chewing on stuff. 1878 02:09:56,910 --> 02:10:09,570 Speaking of which one thing I do like about the switch too is the fact that they're forcing micro SD Express which is which is the hot so for those who don't know it's a It's 1879 02:10:09,570 --> 02:10:16,686 a faster version of the micro SD card and the fact that Nintendo is forcing it means that more of these will be made 1880 02:10:16,686 --> 02:10:26,266 Which in turn means that hopefully they'll be cheaper in the long run and that we'll get support for for Micro SD Express and like I don't know the Switch, the Steam Deck 2 or 1881 02:10:26,266 --> 02:10:27,126 something. 1882 02:10:28,204 --> 02:10:34,283 Yeah, Micro SD Express is faster than SATA drives. 1883 02:10:34,498 --> 02:10:35,970 Wow, I did not know that. 1884 02:10:35,970 --> 02:10:37,004 That's cool. 1885 02:10:37,004 --> 02:10:37,320 Yeah. 1886 02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:38,218 Yeah. 1887 02:10:38,798 --> 02:10:42,518 And I don't have anything else to say about Nintendo. 1888 02:10:42,678 --> 02:10:43,978 I think it's just Nintendo. 1889 02:10:44,338 --> 02:10:46,478 We need to get to your favorite topic. 1890 02:10:46,478 --> 02:10:47,438 Bellatro! 1891 02:10:47,438 --> 02:10:48,598 Bellatro. 1892 02:10:48,658 --> 02:10:58,058 So Bellatr- the reason why I probably can't stream Bellatro videos is because Bellatro videos on YouTube are being age restricted. 1893 02:10:58,298 --> 02:11:01,498 And local thunk is not happy. 1894 02:11:02,978 --> 02:11:06,039 So they're being marked as 18 plus because of gambling. 1895 02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:13,364 The fact that Bellatro is gambling themed is definitely drawing some... 1896 02:11:13,364 --> 02:11:19,646 It's definitely exposing some of these companies for just looking at cards and just saying, it's gambling. 1897 02:11:20,928 --> 02:11:22,229 And like, yeah, okay. 1898 02:11:22,229 --> 02:11:32,126 Yeah, okay, it features real poker hands, but it also features fake poker hands, like five of the kinds, or flush fives, or flush house. 1899 02:11:32,126 --> 02:11:37,769 and tarot cards, which are definitely not real poker cards. 1900 02:11:37,966 --> 02:11:39,050 I don't know, man. 1901 02:11:39,050 --> 02:11:48,084 It's a weird situation that Bellatro's put itself into, and I will bat for Bellatro any day of week because it's such a good game. 1902 02:11:50,890 --> 02:11:58,155 If they can have gambling themes in like a casino themed level in Astro Bot and that could be rated everyone. 1903 02:11:58,456 --> 02:12:02,018 I don't know why they can't just do the blotter doesn't even have that really. 1904 02:12:02,018 --> 02:12:07,782 Well, you see the problem with pointing that out is that they did that. 1905 02:12:08,163 --> 02:12:17,989 This is a couple of years ago, but they pointed out that the NBA games literally had like a slot machine for their gotcha system for the. 1906 02:12:18,316 --> 02:12:18,872 Yeah. 1907 02:12:18,872 --> 02:12:20,566 My team or whatever it's. 1908 02:12:20,566 --> 02:12:29,166 and then people kept pointing out that Pokemon had a slot machine like back in the day, Pokemon Red and Blue, and you know what Australia did? 1909 02:12:29,326 --> 02:12:33,586 They rated Pokemon fucking 18 plus because of the gambling systems. 1910 02:12:33,806 --> 02:12:36,086 They retroactively changed it. 1911 02:12:36,166 --> 02:12:41,606 And they didn't change the fucking rating for the NBA game, which is insane to me. 1912 02:12:43,404 --> 02:12:47,782 Yeah, I mean even Mario Bros 3 had like slot machine mechanics. 1913 02:12:47,984 --> 02:12:52,832 Even Super Mario Bros 2 had slot machine mechanics. 1914 02:12:54,210 --> 02:12:56,862 Dude, you can't have slot machines in video games anymore, No. 1915 02:13:00,524 --> 02:13:03,357 I would like to see some data behind this honestly. 1916 02:13:03,357 --> 02:13:14,520 want to have them do a wide survey to really see what games they played in the past that would end if they have an issue or an addiction to gambling. 1917 02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:16,932 Because I do think it's amazing. 1918 02:13:16,932 --> 02:13:20,374 Once you're addicted to gambling, can really fuck you up. 1919 02:13:20,374 --> 02:13:21,077 Hey guys. 1920 02:13:21,077 --> 02:13:22,418 But yeah, I don't... 1921 02:13:22,418 --> 02:13:24,459 I don't agree with what YouTube is saying. 1922 02:13:24,459 --> 02:13:32,161 I mean, I might be a little biased because I like Pilacho, but at the same time though, I mean, it's not really a gambling game. 1923 02:13:32,281 --> 02:13:33,421 there's no... 1924 02:13:33,681 --> 02:13:38,503 Outside of there being poker hands, there is no mechanic where you can actually gamble money. 1925 02:13:38,503 --> 02:13:43,084 Like, I'll admit, in the Pokemon Red and Blue games, you can certainly gamble money. 1926 02:13:43,084 --> 02:13:51,276 You can exchange over, like, tokens, and then you would gamble those tokens, which I guess is textbook definition gambling. 1927 02:13:51,490 --> 02:13:56,670 which means Pokemon has more gambling mechanics than Blattro, which is kinda funny to think about. 1928 02:13:58,892 --> 02:14:03,853 Yeah, I think he had a good point in that quote that you put in there, Hi Tech. 1929 02:14:03,882 --> 02:14:08,991 Apparently, Belanger videos are being rated 18 plus on YouTube now for gambling. 1930 02:14:08,991 --> 02:14:16,644 Good thing we are protecting children from knowing what a four of a kind is and letting them watch CS case opening videos instead. 1931 02:14:18,348 --> 02:14:23,558 I mean, honestly, like, I think all forms of gambling should be rated. 1932 02:14:23,558 --> 02:14:32,249 I mean, even if it doesn't have like that veneer of like traditional gambling, which I would say that's kind of what Bellatro falls under. 1933 02:14:32,738 --> 02:14:46,392 I think that like, if there's actual prizes you win by luck based mechanics, I think that they should be rated like 18 plus. 1934 02:14:46,392 --> 02:14:52,291 But as far as Bellatro on YouTube, think it's completely inoffensive. 1935 02:14:52,693 --> 02:14:58,772 I think Bellatro is completely inoffensive and I think it's annoying that YouTube is doing that to this game. 1936 02:15:00,780 --> 02:15:05,480 Well, first it was Australia, then it was Europe, now it's YouTube. 1937 02:15:05,932 --> 02:15:11,688 Yeah, again, people who make decisions don't know what they're making decisions about. 1938 02:15:11,688 --> 02:15:13,129 That's what it is. 1939 02:15:13,129 --> 02:15:16,693 They saw cards and they said gambling. 1940 02:15:16,693 --> 02:15:23,239 Well, guess what solitaire you can literally play solitaire in a friggin casino for money. 1941 02:15:23,239 --> 02:15:24,961 What is solitaire? 1942 02:15:24,961 --> 02:15:25,534 Yeah. 1943 02:15:25,534 --> 02:15:27,874 No way, I'm good at Solitaire. 1944 02:15:28,074 --> 02:15:29,694 I'm good at card games. 1945 02:15:29,848 --> 02:15:33,244 Okay, well, I just ruined high-tech low-lifes life. 1946 02:15:33,791 --> 02:15:35,894 My life was already ruined. 1947 02:15:37,539 --> 02:15:45,115 On a previous episode, we also established that Hi Tech is a card counter and he's not welcome in many casinos across the United States. 1948 02:15:48,110 --> 02:15:50,590 Yeah, that's how I paid for my college textbooks. 1949 02:15:50,730 --> 02:15:52,010 gambled money. 1950 02:15:52,990 --> 02:15:55,850 Indian reservation casinos let you gamble at 18. 1951 02:15:55,850 --> 02:15:59,370 The difference is they don't serve you free alcohol, unlike in Vegas. 1952 02:15:59,650 --> 02:16:04,470 So 58 % of PC gaming revenue came from microtransactions. 1953 02:16:06,350 --> 02:16:08,250 I mean, I don't know what more to say. 1954 02:16:08,390 --> 02:16:09,570 It's oh, it's two. 1955 02:16:09,570 --> 02:16:11,970 It's $24.4 billion. 1956 02:16:15,264 --> 02:16:21,315 Here's what you say about this people who keep saying how much they hate microtransactions. 1957 02:16:21,658 --> 02:16:23,360 I think that they're liars 1958 02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:24,827 Yeah. 1959 02:16:25,260 --> 02:16:29,272 Yeah, well, I mean, I think that it's like it's hypocritical, right? 1960 02:16:29,272 --> 02:16:35,114 It's like I know a lot of people who say that they hate it and then they go and buy the micro transactions. 1961 02:16:35,114 --> 02:16:35,364 Yeah. 1962 02:16:35,364 --> 02:16:38,476 So it's like, you know, what what do you do about that? 1963 02:16:38,476 --> 02:16:43,038 If you you know something's bad for you and you keep doing it, what do you do about that? 1964 02:16:43,278 --> 02:16:43,648 Right. 1965 02:16:43,648 --> 02:16:45,789 Some people are like, we can't do anything about it. 1966 02:16:45,789 --> 02:16:52,101 But there are solutions, you know, like elect people who know what they're doing and make good decisions. 1967 02:16:52,334 --> 02:16:53,658 Stop buying horse. 1968 02:16:54,050 --> 02:16:55,636 Yeah, stop playing Dark Cyber. 1969 02:16:55,636 --> 02:16:57,387 Yeah, that's useful. 1970 02:16:57,448 --> 02:17:04,844 Gamers are not very disciplined and and honestly, I don't think I've ever seen a gaming boycott succeed. 1971 02:17:04,844 --> 02:17:05,866 Like I remember a couple of years. 1972 02:17:05,866 --> 02:17:11,461 I remember a couple of years ago there was a huge boycott for Hogwarts Legacy, primarily because of J.K. 1973 02:17:11,461 --> 02:17:11,871 Rowling. 1974 02:17:11,871 --> 02:17:12,982 And that didn't. 1975 02:17:12,982 --> 02:17:14,143 Yeah, of course. 1976 02:17:14,143 --> 02:17:21,836 That's a really hard one because the studio that makes it is actually here in Salt Lake and they're a fairly progressive studio, meaning. 1977 02:17:21,836 --> 02:17:30,318 You're just you're hurting developers that are actually fairly progressive and was kind of injecting a little bit of more progressive stuff into the game, whether people like that 1978 02:17:30,318 --> 02:17:30,658 or not. 1979 02:17:30,658 --> 02:17:38,886 And so it's really hard with these boycotts, whether or not you should do it based off of the main person. 1980 02:17:38,886 --> 02:17:39,548 Yeah. 1981 02:17:39,548 --> 02:17:51,574 Or if they've created something bigger than themselves like LucasArts or, you know, Lucas, LucasArts Studios games, you know, they've or even movies have gone beyond. 1982 02:17:52,399 --> 02:18:04,068 yeah george what's his face itself yeah and i mean to be fair the boycott didn't succeed either it's a hugely successful game that's also coming to switch to by the way 1983 02:18:04,971 --> 02:18:07,173 But they canceled its DLC. 1984 02:18:07,342 --> 02:18:09,142 They did cancel- so stupid! 1985 02:18:09,142 --> 02:18:13,922 Yeah, because they're shifting towards their microtransaction strategy for some reason. 1986 02:18:13,922 --> 02:18:14,502 Yeah. 1987 02:18:14,942 --> 02:18:24,722 There's also the fact- There's also a couple years ago- I don't know if you guys have seen this, but there was a group on Steam, like, a very long time ago. 1988 02:18:24,742 --> 02:18:27,502 This was back when Modern Warfare 2, the original, was coming out. 1989 02:18:27,502 --> 02:18:34,446 They announced that they wouldn't have dedicated servers, which at the time was unheard of on a PC game. 1990 02:18:34,446 --> 02:18:42,974 And so there was a boy, there was a boycott Modern Warfare 2 group that they said they would, they would boycott it because there were no dedicated servers. 1991 02:18:42,974 --> 02:18:51,442 While James, if you look up, if you look that up, you'll see, if you look up, you'll see the group. 1992 02:18:51,743 --> 02:18:55,225 And guess what game most of the people in that group are playing. 1993 02:18:56,647 --> 02:18:58,549 I don't know what look up, but yeah, I... 1994 02:18:58,549 --> 02:18:59,898 Warfare 2. 1995 02:19:02,637 --> 02:19:03,038 It's... 1996 02:19:03,038 --> 02:19:03,058 it's... 1997 02:19:03,058 --> 02:19:03,158 it's... 1998 02:19:03,158 --> 02:19:03,958 what? 1999 02:19:03,978 --> 02:19:05,438 Hold on. 2000 02:19:05,518 --> 02:19:07,038 Send me a link, okay. 2001 02:19:07,138 --> 02:19:08,878 Send me a link if you want me to throw it up. 2002 02:19:08,878 --> 02:19:09,658 I'm not gonna... 2003 02:19:09,658 --> 02:19:11,178 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do that. 2004 02:19:11,178 --> 02:19:11,578 I'll... 2005 02:19:11,578 --> 02:19:12,078 I'll... 2006 02:19:12,078 --> 02:19:13,058 I'll send you the... 2007 02:19:13,058 --> 02:19:15,158 I'll send you the link right here. 2008 02:19:16,458 --> 02:19:19,178 I'm not Jamie from... 2009 02:19:19,178 --> 02:19:20,658 Joe Rogan's thing. 2010 02:19:21,478 --> 02:19:22,118 There you go. 2011 02:19:22,118 --> 02:19:22,538 It's on... 2012 02:19:22,538 --> 02:19:23,658 Jamie, throw that up. 2013 02:19:23,658 --> 02:19:24,378 It's in the Discord? 2014 02:19:24,378 --> 02:19:25,838 Whatever his name is. 2015 02:19:26,198 --> 02:19:26,598 Um... 2016 02:19:26,598 --> 02:19:27,418 okay. 2017 02:19:27,418 --> 02:19:28,738 It's a Reddit link. 2018 02:19:33,624 --> 02:19:34,494 That's... 2019 02:19:35,397 --> 02:19:40,235 So, I don't think there's been a single video game boycott that's actually succeeded. 2020 02:19:42,941 --> 02:19:50,376 I think they recently tried to boycott Assassin's Creed Shadows, which I don't actually know if that's been successful or not. 2021 02:19:50,668 --> 02:19:52,941 I mean, I'm not talking about boycotting, though. 2022 02:19:52,941 --> 02:20:02,153 Like, I think we need legislation that actually regulates, predatory, industry activities. 2023 02:20:02,222 --> 02:20:06,142 Oh yeah, I understand, cause the gamers aren't gonna fuckin' do it. 2024 02:20:06,142 --> 02:20:06,682 Right. 2025 02:20:06,682 --> 02:20:11,182 So yeah, this is an image from like, several years ago. 2026 02:20:11,182 --> 02:20:13,722 Like, Steam doesn't look like this anymore. 2027 02:20:16,226 --> 02:20:20,265 Modern Warfare 2 was almost probably, wasn't it like 20 years ago for God's sake? 2028 02:20:22,126 --> 02:20:24,266 That was yeah, was almost 20 years ago. 2029 02:20:24,266 --> 02:20:24,726 Shit. 2030 02:20:24,726 --> 02:20:29,646 It's coming up there and don't that makes me feel so old. 2031 02:20:30,626 --> 02:20:34,106 So a successful I've been looking. 2032 02:20:34,106 --> 02:20:37,306 This is another reason I was trying to look something else up. 2033 02:20:37,306 --> 02:20:41,146 Star Wars Battlefront to the newer version. 2034 02:20:41,246 --> 02:20:47,466 There was a boycott and a huge outcry there and actually did cause some major problems with their cells. 2035 02:20:47,806 --> 02:20:52,326 they did affect stuff with it. 2036 02:20:52,778 --> 02:21:06,314 Is one of the like there's a few times where it's actually helped I think fallout 76 also had a little bit of like an outcry I don't know if there was really so much of it just 2037 02:21:06,314 --> 02:21:15,548 didn't do well because people didn't want to buy because it didn't it came out bad but battlefront 2 was they had so many microtransactions that I think they went back to it 2038 02:21:15,548 --> 02:21:21,600 eventually but They were going to my they were microtransaction out of that 2039 02:21:22,476 --> 02:21:23,935 Hell out of that thing. 2040 02:21:24,082 --> 02:21:32,844 Well, not just that but the microtransactions that they had planned also affected gameplay It wasn't just it wasn't just you know playing dress-up. 2041 02:21:32,844 --> 02:21:44,978 I have zero problem with people paying money Yeah to play dress-up if that's what they want to do in order to enjoy their game more if it doesn't affect gameplay fine Go ahead. 2042 02:21:44,978 --> 02:21:45,498 I don't care. 2043 02:21:45,498 --> 02:21:46,748 It doesn't affect me. 2044 02:21:46,748 --> 02:21:47,788 Go nuts. 2045 02:21:47,788 --> 02:21:52,430 What walk around is Darth Vader in Fortnite if that's what you want to do. 2046 02:21:52,430 --> 02:21:53,850 I don't care 2047 02:21:53,954 --> 02:21:54,372 That's me. 2048 02:21:54,372 --> 02:22:02,954 only don't like it when they affect gameplay and the ones that they had planned for battlefield to battlefront to did affect gameplay. 2049 02:22:02,954 --> 02:22:06,299 They took all those out and that game was freaking great. 2050 02:22:06,299 --> 02:22:08,301 It was really really fun. 2051 02:22:09,122 --> 02:22:12,383 On the topic of Battlefront 2, this actually just came up just now. 2052 02:22:12,943 --> 02:22:18,265 The game on PC is quote-unquote completely unplayable thanks to hackers on PC. 2053 02:22:19,685 --> 02:22:21,826 I hate hackers and cheaters. 2054 02:22:22,406 --> 02:22:27,647 They're the reason why you can't play fucking Destiny 2 on Steam Deck. 2055 02:22:29,028 --> 02:22:32,049 Or, well, guess Fortnite if that's more your jam. 2056 02:22:32,389 --> 02:22:33,289 Or Apex Legends! 2057 02:22:33,289 --> 02:22:36,410 Shit, man, remember when Apex Legends used to be Steam Deck supported? 2058 02:22:37,174 --> 02:22:37,995 Yep. 2059 02:22:39,929 --> 02:22:42,275 I'm the mythical Linux cheaters. 2060 02:22:42,275 --> 02:22:48,208 They're so good at cheating on Linux that they ruined the game for Linux players. 2061 02:22:49,794 --> 02:22:50,597 Yeah. 2062 02:22:51,806 --> 02:23:01,209 Once the steam deck and SteamOS is going to continue to get more traction, once it gets a certain point, they'll figure it out. 2063 02:23:01,389 --> 02:23:07,961 I think it's a money slash excuse for them to just not have to spend any resources on it. 2064 02:23:07,961 --> 02:23:10,371 It will eventually come back. 2065 02:23:10,371 --> 02:23:13,932 And that's why it's additionally important to install. 2066 02:23:14,272 --> 02:23:20,334 As SteamOS gets better and more supported, and hopefully Nvidia gets its shit together on that, if you... 2067 02:23:20,938 --> 02:23:35,107 When we so steam will do surveys like once or twice a year on your hardware, the more that we do that survey with steam hardware, the more likely that it will show that the 2068 02:23:35,107 --> 02:23:41,391 percentages go up of people using it that will indicate to the industry to start supporting it more. 2069 02:23:41,391 --> 02:23:46,234 In my opinion, there'll be a point where it will happen. 2070 02:23:51,551 --> 02:23:55,933 Yeah, so 58 % of games, PC game revenue came from microtransactions. 2071 02:23:55,933 --> 02:23:59,494 Now, here's my take on this. 2072 02:24:00,895 --> 02:24:02,795 This is a very big statement. 2073 02:24:02,936 --> 02:24:11,899 And if you actually dissect this down into, I bet you into what games they were, very different. 2074 02:24:12,680 --> 02:24:17,281 you're gonna get executives to see that and like, well, we should just only go into microtransactions. 2075 02:24:17,382 --> 02:24:18,242 Well. 2076 02:24:18,242 --> 02:24:21,244 You know, a lot of those games are very unique to their space. 2077 02:24:21,244 --> 02:24:33,893 if you like live service games in the like just the past year, so many have failed because people only have so much time to spend on these types of games, especially the ones that 2078 02:24:33,893 --> 02:24:36,054 micro micro transactions. 2079 02:24:37,855 --> 02:24:42,939 Careful, careful executives like what you you need more data than this. 2080 02:24:42,939 --> 02:24:47,481 If you dive into successes of like indie or individualistic, 2081 02:24:48,174 --> 02:24:50,894 games that are not aligned with this. 2082 02:24:50,894 --> 02:24:54,574 think you'd be shocked that actually there's a lot of success there too. 2083 02:24:56,074 --> 02:25:02,094 Hearthstone, GTA V, is it live or whatever it is? 2084 02:25:03,114 --> 02:25:06,294 There are a lot of games. 2085 02:25:06,476 --> 02:25:19,910 where they make a lot of money off of microtransactions, like a filthy amount, but they are very specific and it's very hard to get into those niches and into those realms to 2086 02:25:19,910 --> 02:25:21,090 make that money. 2087 02:25:22,611 --> 02:25:24,266 I mean, yeah, I agree. 2088 02:25:24,266 --> 02:25:33,474 I mean, at this point, all of successful PC games are already entrenched and you're going have a really hard time pulling people away from them. 2089 02:25:33,474 --> 02:25:34,334 I mean, 2090 02:25:34,670 --> 02:25:38,490 Marvel did it last year, but that was kind of a that's kind of a big outlier. 2091 02:25:38,490 --> 02:25:42,530 I know I know rich Still plays. 2092 02:25:42,530 --> 02:25:53,510 don't know if he still plays Marvel rivals, but for a while we he was just grinding the hell out of that as was I Well, there's the thing with that too is they fired didn't they 2093 02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:58,410 they laid off I think half like a big portion of that team. 2094 02:25:58,410 --> 02:25:59,653 No, it was I was 2095 02:25:59,653 --> 02:26:01,504 part of their support team. 2096 02:26:01,504 --> 02:26:02,318 is a team. 2097 02:26:02,318 --> 02:26:04,167 thought they laid off more than that. 2098 02:26:04,167 --> 02:26:05,213 But okay, yeah. 2099 02:26:05,213 --> 02:26:06,630 So if it's just the support 2100 02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:11,493 is that they laid off people who like were hired to do this. 2101 02:26:11,834 --> 02:26:14,816 They did this and then they were like, All right, see ya. 2102 02:26:14,816 --> 02:26:19,028 And that's just my understanding I could be wrong about that. 2103 02:26:19,470 --> 02:26:28,838 Okay, I could be wrong too, I swear that they laid off some developers too along with that, but yeah, I'm not gonna go any further out to that and try to say they did. 2104 02:26:30,561 --> 02:26:36,556 But it's still crazy how successful a game like that can be and how much money it makes. 2105 02:26:38,904 --> 02:26:50,979 but they did break out into it so there's definitely ways to do it just don't sacrifice everything else is what I'm saying to the industry don't sacrifice really good IPs by 2106 02:26:50,979 --> 02:27:06,306 either morphing them into something they're not to get these micro transactions or you know yeah really that's it don't don't don't don't fuck up your IP microtransactions 2107 02:27:09,174 --> 02:27:22,854 man i don't understand why wb is pushing the suicide squad ip so hard okay like first we had the suicide squad movie the first one with will smith and margaret robbie that one was 2108 02:27:22,854 --> 02:27:33,532 terrible and then they made the second one with james gunn as the director and that one was pretty decent and then but then they made the suicide squad game and like i don't 2109 02:27:33,532 --> 02:27:37,014 think if single person wanted a suicide squad video game 2110 02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:38,871 I think of a single person that wanted it. 2111 02:27:38,871 --> 02:27:39,872 I wanted it. 2112 02:27:39,872 --> 02:27:40,893 Before they announced it. 2113 02:27:40,893 --> 02:27:41,333 I wanted it. 2114 02:27:41,333 --> 02:27:42,134 It looked cool. 2115 02:27:42,134 --> 02:27:44,415 But they fucked it up. 2116 02:27:45,617 --> 02:27:46,077 They did. 2117 02:27:46,077 --> 02:27:48,039 I mean, here's the thing too. 2118 02:27:48,039 --> 02:27:51,511 I can believe Deadshot and Harley Quinn using guns, but like, come on. 2119 02:27:51,511 --> 02:27:53,322 Captain Boomerang? 2120 02:27:53,623 --> 02:27:55,724 King Shark using guns? 2121 02:27:55,965 --> 02:28:00,087 They should be like, throwing boomerangs and just eating people. 2122 02:28:00,768 --> 02:28:02,769 That's like their thing. 2123 02:28:04,674 --> 02:28:17,830 it just wasn't done right honestly if they would have i don't know i don't know how they could have done but they could have done it but yeah anything else or should we wrap this 2124 02:28:17,830 --> 02:28:21,213 up i don't really have much more to say to be honest 2125 02:28:21,688 --> 02:28:23,066 Yeah, I don't either. 2126 02:28:24,396 --> 02:28:35,253 Yeah, I'm pretty, I mean, we're starting to get into the realm of we've beat the hell out of this topic because we've talked about it before, but yeah, screw microtransactions. 2127 02:28:37,355 --> 02:28:44,032 But I mean, if you also if you enjoy them, if you enjoy buying like skins and stuff like that, I'm with Bill on this. 2128 02:28:44,032 --> 02:28:48,122 I don't mind it too much, but yeah, the gameplay. 2129 02:28:48,122 --> 02:28:48,573 Yeah. 2130 02:28:48,573 --> 02:28:52,445 Don't let someone tell you that you can't buy the Hatsune Miku skin on Fortnite. 2131 02:28:52,445 --> 02:28:53,506 Buy it. 2132 02:28:54,646 --> 02:28:56,815 Yeah. 2133 02:28:56,815 --> 02:28:58,018 It's your money, 2134 02:29:00,460 --> 02:29:03,902 Yeah, like there's some absolutists that are like you can't do any micro trends. 2135 02:29:03,902 --> 02:29:06,413 I like what I'm like, just do what you want, man. 2136 02:29:06,413 --> 02:29:09,274 But at the same time, know what you're supporting. 2137 02:29:11,116 --> 02:29:19,480 Like I don't I don't get my actions out of just pure I'm going to use this a little bit and that's it. 2138 02:29:19,480 --> 02:29:21,120 Why should I buy this? 2139 02:29:21,261 --> 02:29:23,168 So yeah. 2140 02:29:23,168 --> 02:29:37,366 Sometimes I have bought cosmetic microtransactions in the past only because I have like when I have played a game and I'm like man I have put so many hours into this game and I 2141 02:29:37,366 --> 02:29:47,853 paid zero fucking dollars for this game I don't mind throwing a little money at him in order to have my character look a little bit different I'm not against it. 2142 02:29:47,853 --> 02:29:48,673 That's the thing. 2143 02:29:48,673 --> 02:29:50,126 I just don't want it to affect 2144 02:29:50,126 --> 02:29:51,146 A free model? 2145 02:29:51,146 --> 02:29:53,148 100 % I agree with you. 2146 02:29:53,148 --> 02:29:55,910 If you want to support the developers, go for it. 2147 02:29:55,910 --> 02:30:04,396 It's when they start doing this, let's say games are coming out at $80 now, and then it's like, okay, well, if you want to get any extra stuff, you think that would come with 2148 02:30:04,396 --> 02:30:05,856 pretty much everything. 2149 02:30:05,896 --> 02:30:10,259 But then they're going to be like, well, if you want to get these extra little things, you have to buy them. 2150 02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:13,321 That's where I start to have a little bit of issues. 2151 02:30:13,942 --> 02:30:17,457 Or you buy the hundred dollar version, the gold edition. 2152 02:30:18,392 --> 02:30:19,024 fine with that too. 2153 02:30:19,024 --> 02:30:19,888 Give me everything. 2154 02:30:19,888 --> 02:30:24,263 Dude, buy the version that gives you early access for like a week. 2155 02:30:25,122 --> 02:30:25,847 You 2156 02:30:27,052 --> 02:30:29,762 Yeah, that'll really show them. 2157 02:30:31,752 --> 02:30:33,466 Yeah, I don't know. 2158 02:30:33,466 --> 02:30:34,507 Okay. 2159 02:30:34,528 --> 02:30:42,864 Well, Bill, anything else you have to say on this or anything you want to shout out at the end of this to kind of promote? 2160 02:30:44,482 --> 02:30:49,574 No, it's just you can find my stuff over at Nerdnest, wherever Nerdnests are found. 2161 02:30:49,836 --> 02:30:52,376 yeah will give the description down below 2162 02:30:54,205 --> 02:30:56,148 Thanks for having me on guys, it was fun. 2163 02:30:56,482 --> 02:30:57,354 Thanks for being here. 2164 02:30:57,354 --> 02:31:13,434 for joining us great great having a sports announcer on that's what you do right you do sports announcing That's your day job Which is awesome, okay It really is Okay. 2165 02:31:13,434 --> 02:31:25,094 Well everyone say goodbye and We're out of here Watching I take care of my bar Later guys, don't forget to subscribe follow do whatever you need to do. 2166 02:31:25,094 --> 02:31:26,324 Peace out