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Jason voorhees that is hilarious try to
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romance Jason voorhees
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Dude pick Jason
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voorhees, dude you gotta do this
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Pray Jason said his voice low and
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gravelly he was so close
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he could reach out and touch
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Oh noo
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His eyes were fixed on them, setting them
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intently he brought his hand down and
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grabbing their chin roughly tilting their
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Don't you look like a good person
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Oh my god dude
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Do you got handcuffs?
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I'll be the use them on you
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Say yes daddy
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You read my mind I
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technically was gonna say
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Welcome to Off the Console the hottest
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new podcast that it's all about gaming,
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tech news and anything nerdy this week
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We're covering the biggest news
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I did some including the not safe for
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work purr just currently going on
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And a bunch of other exploding industries
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or at least like agencies like the VTuber
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Uh, Tallah Agency one of the biggest ones
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and then we have other
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big topics that include
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Uh, maybe we're not gonna be having $80
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games in the future maybe it's gonna be
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$70 games or $60 maybe it's failed
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We'll find out as we talk through this
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week's topics but with me I have Gardner
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and also High Tech Low Life
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How's it going?
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How you doing?
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Doing great
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Uh so to start things off let's talk
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about what you guys have been playing
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High Tech what have you been
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playing or doing this week?
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Okay so I've been
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preparing for my trip to Japan
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I've been doing some planning and there
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are some places I want to go to but we'll
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save that for next episode
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Where I'll already be in Japan by then
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Nice
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But in terms of actually playing games
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though I've been
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playing Risk of Rain 2 again
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Modded Risk of Rain 2 because I made a
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video about that for the Steam Deck again
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And it just sucked me
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back in so I'm playing that
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Are you avoiding Expedition 33?
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Dude no I mean yes because I don't have
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the time to play Massive GRPGs right now
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You can beat it in like 30-40 hours
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I probably could but I'm lazy right now
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You're just gonna continue trying to 100%
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like Blotrol or something
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by now had I not decided to wait until
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like the update came out
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2025 update that's supposed to be coming
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out for Blotrol so yeah
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I'll start
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I'm already committed
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There you go
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Expedition's waiting it's good I
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definitely recommend it
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Um Gardner what have
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you been playing or doing?
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I have been working on some stuff
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I got this little guy
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which is really neat
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It's a USB tester
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actually here let me show you
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What is that? What did you just do?
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So this little tester here I'll show you
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this in a minute but this
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This little tester just tells you like
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the capabilities of a USB
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cable which is pretty nice
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This one is USB
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See uh USB 2
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both ends into the thing?
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You plug both ends into it and then it
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tells you what conductors are in there
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Which is really nice
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Oh that is very cool
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It's very handy because I have a ton of
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like charge only USB type C cables
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ones are charge only which ones are type
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This is very exciting this is the ATEM
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Mini Extreme Pro from Blackmagic Design
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works as a webcam on the computer
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and record every one of these tracks
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individually to the SSD
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Just by hitting this button here record
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do like switching between
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myself to different corners
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to see it but the audience can
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computer plugged into it a little mini PC
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I can switch to that
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Is that your bad oh dude that's awesome
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Yeah it's super neat
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So this and also like there's a desktop
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app that you can use to like
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set things up and be able to
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What's the word?
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Like you can have multiple cameras which
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is I have a camera above me here
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I normally do because I usually when
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we're doing the show
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I use my like webcam and
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this I'm using like the actual
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Pocket Cinema 4k that I
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record my videos on so
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I wasn't I didn't want to say anything
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but I was like wow did he get a glow up
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Yeah I got a gardener
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out of the glow up man
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But I've been just messing around with
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this like for the like the whole week
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I and the best part was I ordered this
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ordered it and I ordered it in like
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At like 11 o'clock in the morning on
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Monday and I got it from Amazon
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I got it from Amazon I'm not proud of it
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I usually don't buy stuff from Amazon but
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Amazon kind of sucks but my sister
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Amazon Prime so why not right
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try not to but sometimes just
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from like reputable eBay
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sellers but even that's not
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ideal so
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I hate eBay so much
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I hate eBay but you know if you get the
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right sellers it's usually fine
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I think I'd rather become
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Amish than deal with eBay anymore
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Hey man you know the Amish use Linux now
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Sure yeah they do yeah I'm
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not yeah yeah they use like a
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Yeah they use computers and it's like
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it's basically like a
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glorified typewriter
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a locked down I don't know
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I don't know much about it
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makes no they're not Amish anymore I'm
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taking away their Amish card
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Did I ever tell you the story about the
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Amish so I live out here out in the
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middle of nowhere in
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Maine and right down the street from me
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there is an Amish community
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but well everyone calls them
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Amish but they're actually Mennonites
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right and so one day I was
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playing Smash Bros Melee with my
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cousin and my cousin his sister whatever
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and we were playing it and
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oh no was it I think it was
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actually and so we were playing brawl and
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then her mom's like hey we
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gotta go so we like got in the
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car and drove out this way and all of a
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sudden we're passing some
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Mennonites on the side of the
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road and she's like why did they name a
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character in Smash Bros after the
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Mennonites because she
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thought like they were called Mennonites
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like oh my god that's
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ridiculous no that's insane
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that's unfortunate yep it's pretty funny
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that is pretty funny though
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yeah James what have you been
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doing this week I beat Doom Eternal's uh
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DLC which is the old
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gods or something like that
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part one and part two yeah because I
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started playing you know
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I've been I've been playing dark
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ages and I'm like I'm not I'm not I'm
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thinking I'm missing
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something story wise and so I went
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it did help a little bit and it was fun
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it's really hard so I
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finally beat those DLCs and then
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I'm halfway through dark ages oh really
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how are you it's it gets
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better but halfway like almost
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halfway through I started playing Doom
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Eternal so it really screwed me up
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because the game styles
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are so different where you're fast paced
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dark ages I and I have it on
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like the third or fourth highest
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difficulty I was just dying all over the
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place because I wanted to
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play quick and there's like you there's
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no um double jump at least
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not yet and there's no uh
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there's just a lot of things that you're
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kind of missing so um it was
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really hard once I got on a
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Doom Eternal too when I was playing Doom
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Eternal I was so used to the
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shield I'd hit the button for
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the shield and so I definitely will say
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Doom Eternal is still
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better but dark ages warming up
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but I definitely I'm hoping they go back
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to the Doom Eternal for the
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next game yeah style I read
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that they have only sold one and a half
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million units for Doom the
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dark ages jeez that's that's
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not oh that's pretty low compared to like
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what they had been doing
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with the other Doom games
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what a big internal solve uh how many I
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think it was like
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three and a half million
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well I mean I guess it is what it is I'm
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not sure it's difficult to
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pinpoint what could have done
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it because there's a lot of different
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factors that changed yeah like for
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example Bethesda got
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bought by Microsoft yeah it launched on
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Game Pass that's another one
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might be the thing I want to
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see revenue I want to stop I want to stop
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hearing good copies and I
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want to start hearing revenue
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more yeah Doom Eternal sold three million
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copies in the first month
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and generated 450 million
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dollars in revenue within nine months of
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its release and the dark ages
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let's see it sold one million copies with
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two million players
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through Xbox Game Pass
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you know what they have done though it's
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three million it's three
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million but well that's less
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revenue and while
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stakeholders or and like
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people like that do like
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subscription-based businesses right now
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so yeah but the problem
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with a game like Doom is you have in
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order to get you have to have one of
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those a month to keep
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people active right you got to have big
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releases to keep people
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active and it's just yeah I just
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don't see that's why they bought all the
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studios man that's why they
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bought Activision Blizzard
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I'm talking about why they bought all
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those studios and then closed them all
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down yeah obviously man
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they just from the fat they just got rid
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of studios that don't
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matter except for you know to me
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yeah and everyone else and the original
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platforms they are the original studios
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they spun up to like
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actually capitalize on all the ip they
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own they closed those too
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come on man you just don't see
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the vision clearly perfect dark was not
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worth uh saving as per
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Microsoft dude oh my god don't get
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me started on perfect dark uh that is
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literally the only game that
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I have had any like measure
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of juvenile hype for in the last 10 years
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like they killed it dude
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I was it 2013 or 2015 or
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something when like they first revealed
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that the initiative was
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working on it yeah on a perfect
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because I remember because that was when
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I was living at the
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first house that I bought
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and I was still living there I moved out
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in 2016 so somewhere in
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there it must have been 2015
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anyway yeah 10 years of work something
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like that down the drain for
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a game that could have been
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awesome for a franchise that I have a lot
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of like passion for and
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Microsoft doesn't give a shit
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it's crazy I know they could have just
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it's not like they're ashamed of
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releasing bad games that
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a lot of places anyways yeah um so game
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pass made uh let's see is may
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has reached 5.5 billion by 2025
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okay so that's not per year they make
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about a billion a year I'm
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assuming maybe billion or two
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see two billion annually during the
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pandemic two billion
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annually during the pandemic
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yeah but like clear like seriously though
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how much did doom the
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dark ages cost to produce
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uh hopefully they didn't spend more than
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100 billion or 100 billion 100 million
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that's gta6 money right there that's not
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even what you know that's not what
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they're spending on that
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but they're gonna make that up um
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um yeah I'm kind of curious so yeah I'm
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not gonna look into this
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anymore but I definitely
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as long as they're budgeting these games
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properly I don't know they
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still have to pay out to the
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other studios that are a part of it but
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does game pass have any
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other studios that aren't
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a part of the Microsoft brand nowadays is
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it pretty much just all
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um I mean I think they have the
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occasional like big triple-a third-party
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game that's only on their
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temporarily but I can't tell third part
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they are indies right but
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they I mean they do have not
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but like basically nothing on game pass
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is permanently on game
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pass except for Microsoft's
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own offerings and uh that's right yeah
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yeah so you realistically
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you'd only buy game pass if you
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are interested in Microsoft titles like
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that that's just kind
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of how it is to be honest
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well you know what is permanently always
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sure so that you can always
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keep an eye on what we're doing so let's
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uh let's get into this
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uh um this topic that is
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affecting high tech's life like most of
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his games are affected now yeah okay okay
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not my risk of brain too
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I apologize okay so the great not safe
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safe for work purge of
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2025 is continuing to happen
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we talked about it last week with steam
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but and with steam I was
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like okay but then itch.io also
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had a huge purge including removing games
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from people's libraries um
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it's on a refund too yeah
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which is crazy and so uh let's get into
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this topic a little bit
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high tech so as you know last
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week we talked about steam uh removing a
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bunch of games and a lot
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quite a few people cheered
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because like they're the types of games
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that you probably don't want
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to be caught playing in public
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you'll probably be on a list if you've
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been playing public but
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but this time itch.io has taken the extra
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step oh you should stream by
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the way uh I'm setting it up
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yeah so itch.io took the extra step of
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not not only removing a
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couple of games but also straight
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up shadow banning basically any game
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that's considered nsfw
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so is it shadow banning if
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everyone's aware of what games have been
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removed and well when I
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say shadow ban I really mean
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you can't find it via searching on
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itch.io's website I see I
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see or by browsing which is
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something you could totally do on itch.io
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for some reason uh but
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anyways here so here's the other
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thing too is that you know typically when
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we say nsfw not safe for work we
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typically think of um
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foreign games right but there are games
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on itch.io that are that
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are you know just straight up
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violent and they're also considered
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adults only because you know of the
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graphic violent content
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right yeah here's the thing it really
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depends on where you work or
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how brave you are I'm willing
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to I know no game is nsfw for me what I'm
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brave enough to play them
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all at work you're brave
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enough to not get fired by an hr
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department I work from home at
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this point if it's if the game
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has been removed it's not nsfw it's nsfpp
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not safe for payment
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processors oh my god the double
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gottle gottle exactly so this started
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because of a game called no mercy which
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uh was what it wasn't
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something we talked about it was a
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potential topic but we decided against it
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uh because it was a game
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about more or less the r-word I'm not
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gonna say it but yes uh so essentially
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that was on steam for a
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little bit that was removed it was also
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itch.io but it was also
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removed as well and unfortunately
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payment processors have decided that
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basically adults adult games are no
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longer allowed either
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and this not just it's not just games
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though it's also um like games that are
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rated 18 plus for like
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violent content too so that's also being
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delisted too not to mention
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people are getting uh people
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that actually have these in their
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libraries they're being removed from
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libraries with no refunds too
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that's not cool yeah and and there's been
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a lot of controversy
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surrounding this because uh
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there have actually been two writers from
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vice that wrote articles about this
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you know standard articles talking about
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how maybe this isn't such
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a good thing because like
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they could do they could do more with
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these now that you know now
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that it's an actual avenue of
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attack but then these articles were since
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deleted and the writers
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quit obviously because of this
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yeah good for them quitting over that I
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like this I here's the
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thing I like I don't have a
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problem with businesses deciding if they
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want to engage in certain
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types of uh activity right like
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I don't it doesn't necessarily bother me
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on the face of it that these
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payment processors are like
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hey if you want to use our service you
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can't be selling games you can't be
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selling like extreme
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graphic violence games I'm okay with that
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in principle because as a
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business owner I want to
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be able to make those kind of decisions
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right like if someone
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comes to me and they're like
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hey uh we want you to make a website for
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us where it's like it's
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violence and whatever I'm
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I don't want to have to do that right um
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so I'm cool with that but
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when it comes to itch and steam
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just like completely bending the knee
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without any pushback um you know that's
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when I have a problem
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with it especially with itch like just
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removing games from people's
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libraries if they've already
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bought them for like that uh really that
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rubs me the wrong way for sure I'm
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curious what threats
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they got from um was it visa or just all
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payment block processors I
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think it was mastercard too
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master and mastercard yeah I mean at this
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point aren't they even
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like a different company like
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I take a problem with payment processors
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because I really feel like it should be
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more on a governmental
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or a level that needs to be dictated by
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laws not just by the whim
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of what the payment processor
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wants yes there's democracy in it yes I
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agree with you on that
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like if we want to move to if
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we want to have a more just payment
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system we need to go
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back to cash like frankly so
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how do you do that on the internet that's
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the question yes so of
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course collective shout is
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the organization claiming to be the ones
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behind all of this and uh
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they're a group from Australia
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and you know how Australia can be with uh
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censoring things they like
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to go a little overboard with
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uh censorship as well and uh I don't know
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man it's it's it's bad
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enough because at one point like
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we at like at first we were all like we
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didn't believe like yet I
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think most of us didn't really
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00:21:02,791 --> 00:21:04,875
believe the fact that you know there
561
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could be a slippery slip
562
00:21:05,875 --> 00:21:08,541
right I just don't like the the
563
00:21:08,708 --> 00:21:10,083
thing especially when things pop up
564
00:21:10,083 --> 00:21:11,250
because I've seen so many
565
00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:13,458
people use that as an excuse to do
566
00:21:13,583 --> 00:21:15,333
egregious things or to allow egregious
567
00:21:15,333 --> 00:21:17,333
things to to occur yeah
568
00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:20,708
that's my problem I grew up um very
569
00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:22,708
conservative and if you guys are
570
00:21:22,708 --> 00:21:23,750
whoever's listening if you're
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00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:24,625
conservative that's fine it's just
572
00:21:24,791 --> 00:21:27,375
I grew up that way I've heard it my whole
573
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life and none of it ever
574
00:21:28,625 --> 00:21:30,625
happened and so I'm very
575
00:21:31,125 --> 00:21:36,291
very I'm skeptical yeah it's good to be
576
00:21:36,291 --> 00:21:38,250
it's good to be simple that
577
00:21:38,250 --> 00:21:41,041
said we did see a we did see a
578
00:21:41,041 --> 00:21:43,000
textbook case of the slippery slope being
579
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,125
slid down on at first it
580
00:21:45,125 --> 00:21:46,375
was just games with a bunch of
581
00:21:46,791 --> 00:21:49,291
tests and like essay and whatnot now it's
582
00:21:49,291 --> 00:21:52,000
all nsfdb games and a lot
583
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,166
of people like to mention
584
00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:55,416
the fact that there's a good chance that
585
00:21:55,416 --> 00:21:56,208
they could be doing this to eventually target
586
00:21:56,958 --> 00:22:03,166
LGBTQ content as well they could consider
587
00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:05,458
that obscene that's a
588
00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:07,916
possibility I think at the moment
589
00:22:07,916 --> 00:22:11,708
what we've seen so far is they targeted
590
00:22:11,708 --> 00:22:14,041
valve and said you have to remove the
591
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:18,041
stuff uh and valve is
592
00:22:18,041 --> 00:22:20,083
literally like one of the biggest
593
00:22:20,083 --> 00:22:21,583
companies in the world like in terms of revenue uh and then they
594
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,208
went for a much smaller fish which is
595
00:22:26,208 --> 00:22:28,541
itch and they could muscle
596
00:22:28,541 --> 00:22:31,708
their way into and make it do more
597
00:22:31,708 --> 00:22:35,458
than they could make a valve do um so yes
598
00:22:35,458 --> 00:22:38,708
this could be interpreted as like a
599
00:22:38,708 --> 00:22:39,666
slippery slope but on
600
00:22:39,666 --> 00:22:41,916
the other hand this is just you know
601
00:22:41,916 --> 00:22:44,375
c-tier executives being c-tier executives and you know
602
00:22:45,125 --> 00:22:50,333
throwing their weight around so visa and
603
00:22:50,333 --> 00:22:52,708
mastercard or at least a visa has tried
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00:22:52,708 --> 00:22:54,208
banning purchases of
605
00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:56,708
in the past I believe and so or at least
606
00:22:56,708 --> 00:22:59,000
tried I wonder if this is
607
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,166
kind of a and I don't know if
608
00:23:00,166 --> 00:23:02,375
it was during when trump was president
609
00:23:02,375 --> 00:23:04,625
last or or what but it
610
00:23:04,625 --> 00:23:07,416
feels like with the with the
611
00:23:07,416 --> 00:23:09,833
ebbing and floating of like politics and
612
00:23:09,833 --> 00:23:10,833
stuff like this I'm
613
00:23:10,833 --> 00:23:12,208
curious if this also is kind of
614
00:23:13,208 --> 00:23:16,958
another one of those are trying they're
615
00:23:16,958 --> 00:23:18,750
gonna go after just anything
616
00:23:18,750 --> 00:23:20,833
that certain groups are trying
617
00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:24,541
to push for to ban so I agree with high
618
00:23:24,541 --> 00:23:26,291
tech actually I because
619
00:23:26,291 --> 00:23:28,500
they are going after if
620
00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:31,583
they got stuff delisted and then now
621
00:23:31,583 --> 00:23:32,416
they're gonna go after
622
00:23:32,416 --> 00:23:35,625
additional not like all non-safe
623
00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:37,666
for world content they're obviously gonna
624
00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:40,958
go after LGBTQ stuff and I think that is
625
00:23:41,458 --> 00:23:45,583
probably that's up for sure these groups
626
00:23:45,583 --> 00:23:47,750
never like those groups
627
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:50,833
and it all it takes for an
628
00:23:50,833 --> 00:23:55,666
LGBTQ game is for just just them saying
629
00:23:55,666 --> 00:23:56,875
it like they don't like it
630
00:23:56,875 --> 00:23:57,708
they don't like to hear like
631
00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,750
that there's someone that's different so
632
00:23:59,750 --> 00:24:01,791
actually you know I think
633
00:24:01,791 --> 00:24:02,041
that you guys make sense on that
634
00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:05,500
you guys make sense on that like I I get
635
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:09,041
it in fact you know I
636
00:24:09,041 --> 00:24:10,541
think that these like we should
637
00:24:10,541 --> 00:24:13,833
probably go for a more democratized
638
00:24:13,833 --> 00:24:16,666
approach to that kind of stuff like with
639
00:24:16,666 --> 00:24:17,916
actual laws in place
640
00:24:17,916 --> 00:24:20,583
that set limits and boundaries rather
641
00:24:20,583 --> 00:24:22,375
than having it be arbitrarily set by
642
00:24:22,375 --> 00:24:24,000
corporate execs right
643
00:24:24,541 --> 00:24:26,500
don't like payment processors making
644
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:29,625
these types of decisions yeah and and
645
00:24:29,625 --> 00:24:30,833
they also are basically
646
00:24:31,375 --> 00:24:33,166
you know they they can issue credit which
647
00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:34,958
is in my opinion issuing
648
00:24:34,958 --> 00:24:36,375
like credit cards and stuff is
649
00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:40,250
is very similar to uh you know issuing
650
00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:41,458
their own currency right
651
00:24:41,458 --> 00:24:42,875
like it's counterfeit money
652
00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:44,750
they might as well have their own
653
00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:47,875
currency in a lot of ways so my question
654
00:24:47,875 --> 00:24:50,291
is do we go to Bitcoin
655
00:24:50,958 --> 00:24:53,916
or to a theory I've seen so many people
656
00:24:53,916 --> 00:24:56,791
suggest going to stablecoin but remember
657
00:24:57,666 --> 00:24:59,625
valve used to take Bitcoin back in the
658
00:24:59,625 --> 00:25:02,500
day only for like a little bit but like
659
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:05,208
they they there's a blog post on their
660
00:25:05,208 --> 00:25:06,500
website about why they
661
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:08,000
decided to remove Bitcoin support
662
00:25:08,333 --> 00:25:11,208
so Bitcoin is not stablecoin stablecoin
663
00:25:11,208 --> 00:25:13,041
is mapped to like the dollar
664
00:25:13,041 --> 00:25:15,041
or whatever currency they want
665
00:25:15,041 --> 00:25:17,083
to map it to so it has a lot less
666
00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:19,875
volatility so that does make
667
00:25:19,875 --> 00:25:21,041
sense if you want something
668
00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:22,750
that's more democratized you probably
669
00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:23,916
want to go with a stablecoin
670
00:25:23,916 --> 00:25:25,583
it doesn't have as much stigma
671
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:28,125
as some of these other coins that have
672
00:25:28,125 --> 00:25:29,083
popped up to where it's
673
00:25:29,083 --> 00:25:30,250
all about pump and dumps
674
00:25:30,791 --> 00:25:33,291
stablecoins are just that they're meant
675
00:25:33,291 --> 00:25:35,625
to be stable who owns these
676
00:25:35,625 --> 00:25:37,458
stablecoins so who manages
677
00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:40,375
a stablecoin so to speak who's it's
678
00:25:40,375 --> 00:25:41,791
always a blockchain
679
00:25:41,791 --> 00:25:44,041
initiative thing so depending on
680
00:25:44,041 --> 00:25:45,625
the stablecoin depending on how
681
00:25:45,625 --> 00:25:46,708
everything's set up but if
682
00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:48,541
it's it's usually set up as a
683
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:51,208
kind of like how open sources can be
684
00:25:51,208 --> 00:25:52,625
sometimes collectives and stuff so
685
00:25:52,958 --> 00:25:56,125
but there's one has to be a payment
686
00:25:56,125 --> 00:25:58,541
processor of a sort no well
687
00:25:58,541 --> 00:25:59,625
that's the blockchain's job
688
00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:03,291
yeah the blockchain records everything
689
00:26:03,291 --> 00:26:06,000
and all it is is that the
690
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,666
processor or whoever's like
691
00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,916
so there's a lot of different ways to
692
00:26:10,916 --> 00:26:12,458
utilize the stablecoin
693
00:26:12,458 --> 00:26:16,125
through plug-ins or if the like
694
00:26:16,125 --> 00:26:18,458
let's say steam like steam did directly
695
00:26:18,458 --> 00:26:20,000
you just you have to set up
696
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,458
your wallet and you can buy
697
00:26:20,541 --> 00:26:21,958
and you can buy it with that that's
698
00:26:21,958 --> 00:26:23,291
really it and then it goes through the
699
00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:25,041
like what Gardner said
700
00:26:25,458 --> 00:26:27,833
um the blockchain which can be hosted
701
00:26:27,833 --> 00:26:30,916
sorry i i just like you
702
00:26:30,916 --> 00:26:33,750
know if if steam switched over
703
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:36,916
to a stablecoin i just see like the
704
00:26:36,916 --> 00:26:39,166
payment processors going to
705
00:26:39,166 --> 00:26:41,500
the exchanges and being like
706
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:44,583
oh you're exchanging fiat for stablecoin
707
00:26:44,583 --> 00:26:46,166
uh you're not going to use
708
00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:47,250
our services for that anymore
709
00:26:47,916 --> 00:26:50,000
and so and then you'll just be on like a
710
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,666
track where literally the
711
00:26:51,666 --> 00:26:52,958
only thing they can do is
712
00:26:52,958 --> 00:26:55,708
like ach transfer from banks and though
713
00:26:55,708 --> 00:26:56,791
the customers who
714
00:26:56,791 --> 00:26:58,250
understand how to do that is
715
00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:01,041
going to be like very minimal i'm i'm
716
00:27:01,041 --> 00:27:02,041
curious about that one that
717
00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:03,541
one seems a little bit harder
718
00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:06,375
um yeah they could try to bully their way
719
00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:07,208
into that but then the
720
00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:08,500
fed might get more involved
721
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:11,875
into something like that especially as
722
00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:13,666
much as you like or don't like the the
723
00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:14,291
current administration
724
00:27:15,125 --> 00:27:19,541
they are trying to like pretty much
725
00:27:19,541 --> 00:27:20,500
remove taxes from
726
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,541
understanding too from crypto and all that
727
00:27:22,583 --> 00:27:24,541
so they're really favoriting uh
728
00:27:24,541 --> 00:27:27,125
favoriting crypto coin which here's what
729
00:27:27,125 --> 00:27:28,750
needs to happen this is this
730
00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:32,500
is my belief okay what needs to happen is
731
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:34,083
every post office in the
732
00:27:34,083 --> 00:27:37,916
united states can uh like you
733
00:27:37,916 --> 00:27:39,208
just go in with your smartphone or
734
00:27:39,208 --> 00:27:42,333
whatever and you can like exchange cash
735
00:27:42,333 --> 00:27:43,833
for digital currency
736
00:27:43,916 --> 00:27:46,875
a u.s issued a u.s mint issued digital
737
00:27:46,875 --> 00:27:48,625
currency and then it would
738
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:49,791
solve all of these problems
739
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:53,333
i agree with you and and we could get
740
00:27:53,333 --> 00:27:56,041
there except for the post
741
00:27:56,041 --> 00:27:58,791
office is being greatly um
742
00:27:59,375 --> 00:28:01,333
yes the budget cuts are getting greatly
743
00:28:01,333 --> 00:28:02,916
increased like it's just getting out of
744
00:28:02,916 --> 00:28:03,625
control i don't know
745
00:28:03,625 --> 00:28:05,333
where i have a post office so but then
746
00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:06,416
the post office could like
747
00:28:06,416 --> 00:28:07,916
just do like a two percent
748
00:28:07,916 --> 00:28:11,208
exchange rate or something versus the 14
749
00:28:11,208 --> 00:28:12,000
percent or whatever you
750
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,125
pay with payment processors
751
00:28:14,083 --> 00:28:16,708
payment processors are between two to
752
00:28:16,708 --> 00:28:18,416
three point five oh are they
753
00:28:18,416 --> 00:28:20,916
okay one uh one point five to
754
00:28:21,208 --> 00:28:23,750
three is depending on what the deal is
755
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:25,458
that they have oh right oh
756
00:28:25,458 --> 00:28:26,875
yeah thinking of credit cards
757
00:28:26,875 --> 00:28:28,625
for some reason yeah your credit cards
758
00:28:28,625 --> 00:28:30,500
are yeah sensor yeah
759
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:34,625
censorship is just awful man i'm i
760
00:28:34,625 --> 00:28:36,375
don't know what the solution is i don't
761
00:28:36,375 --> 00:28:37,416
know if there will ever be
762
00:28:37,416 --> 00:28:38,875
a perfect solution to this
763
00:28:39,041 --> 00:28:40,708
if possible aside from just government
764
00:28:40,708 --> 00:28:42,625
stepping in but like there's
765
00:28:42,625 --> 00:28:43,500
no telling if they'll do that
766
00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:45,666
i mean think i mean like censorship is
767
00:28:45,666 --> 00:28:47,708
like a gun almost like you can
768
00:28:47,708 --> 00:28:49,750
dress up a gun and be like oh
769
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:51,416
it's for your own protection whatever but
770
00:28:51,416 --> 00:28:53,125
like it can still do some
771
00:28:53,125 --> 00:28:54,958
real damage right yeah i'm not
772
00:28:55,125 --> 00:28:58,458
against censorship for companies or
773
00:28:58,458 --> 00:29:01,625
certain groups uh but yeah definitely i
774
00:29:01,625 --> 00:29:03,500
don't like that we have
775
00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:06,666
this set up in such a way to where
776
00:29:06,666 --> 00:29:08,416
payment processors are pretty
777
00:29:08,416 --> 00:29:09,583
much like a government entity
778
00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:12,666
in some form or fashion it's just there's
779
00:29:12,666 --> 00:29:14,125
no democracy to it if
780
00:29:14,125 --> 00:29:16,000
you want to use digital
781
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,500
currency or use you know your money with
782
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:21,833
a card your bone what they
783
00:29:21,833 --> 00:29:23,875
say yeah i don't like that
784
00:29:24,041 --> 00:29:26,458
meanwhile the uh the executives who are
785
00:29:26,458 --> 00:29:27,791
you know issuing these
786
00:29:27,791 --> 00:29:29,958
uh proclamations against
787
00:29:30,083 --> 00:29:32,000
you know games or whatever are also
788
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,916
probably going to fstein island let's be
789
00:29:33,916 --> 00:29:36,291
real you're not wrong
790
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:42,083
like these okay so it is crazy how many
791
00:29:42,083 --> 00:29:44,125
traffickers they end
792
00:29:44,125 --> 00:29:45,708
up getting caught for it
793
00:29:45,916 --> 00:29:48,291
or whatever they're against it's it's
794
00:29:48,291 --> 00:29:50,791
crazy it happens here in utah it's
795
00:29:50,791 --> 00:29:52,000
happened to multiple high
796
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:57,458
and uh people and it's usually a tell for
797
00:29:57,458 --> 00:29:58,083
me if you're pushing
798
00:29:58,083 --> 00:29:59,375
something like we're all against
799
00:29:59,458 --> 00:30:02,875
it i think no one is for trafficking of
800
00:30:02,875 --> 00:30:06,958
any kind so when people get
801
00:30:06,958 --> 00:30:08,708
really on board on it it gets
802
00:30:08,708 --> 00:30:13,041
a little weird yes so you know itch.io
803
00:30:13,041 --> 00:30:14,666
actually updated their faq in
804
00:30:14,666 --> 00:30:16,000
regards to some of the stuff
805
00:30:16,083 --> 00:30:18,916
so you want to read that to you here so
806
00:30:18,916 --> 00:30:19,791
it is adult content
807
00:30:19,791 --> 00:30:21,541
allowed we don't allow hosting
808
00:30:21,541 --> 00:30:25,375
content that includes images or videos of
809
00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:26,291
real life humans
810
00:30:26,291 --> 00:30:28,125
fictional illustrate or rendered
811
00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:30,500
content is generally fine assuming it's
812
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:33,000
legal ai generated imagery that is
813
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,875
designed to resemble
814
00:30:33,875 --> 00:30:35,291
photographic content of real people is
815
00:30:35,291 --> 00:30:37,458
not allowed content glorifying sexual
816
00:30:37,458 --> 00:30:38,541
violence is not permitted
817
00:30:38,541 --> 00:30:40,958
depictions of minors minor presenting or
818
00:30:40,958 --> 00:30:43,541
suggested minor in actual
819
00:30:43,541 --> 00:30:44,833
context are not allowed it will
820
00:30:44,958 --> 00:30:47,125
result in account suspension see there's
821
00:30:47,125 --> 00:30:48,291
also more down here the
822
00:30:48,291 --> 00:30:50,666
following is a non-exhaustive
823
00:30:50,666 --> 00:30:52,708
list of prohibited themes present in the
824
00:30:52,708 --> 00:30:54,208
card processing networks
825
00:30:54,208 --> 00:30:56,000
we are unable to support the
826
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,875
sale of any works containing these topics
827
00:30:58,875 --> 00:31:01,083
non-consensual content
828
00:31:01,083 --> 00:31:03,125
real or implied underage or
829
00:31:03,375 --> 00:31:06,000
barely legal themes in the past are
830
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,166
pseudo-infant up content beast body or
831
00:31:09,166 --> 00:31:11,541
animal related uh r-word
832
00:31:11,541 --> 00:31:14,458
coercion or force related uh trafficking
833
00:31:14,458 --> 00:31:16,625
implications revenge
834
00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:18,458
or voyeurism or hidden
835
00:31:19,291 --> 00:31:22,000
or fetish involving bodily waste or
836
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,916
extreme harm like scat or
837
00:31:24,916 --> 00:31:28,250
vomit for some some things
838
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,166
if the game is all about that i
839
00:31:30,166 --> 00:31:31,541
understand that it just becomes a porn
840
00:31:31,541 --> 00:31:33,958
game but um there's certain
841
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,083
things where you you depict the depravity
842
00:31:37,083 --> 00:31:38,916
of like a certain group or
843
00:31:38,916 --> 00:31:40,625
let's say what the nazis did
844
00:31:40,625 --> 00:31:44,416
right um does that get banned thin if
845
00:31:44,416 --> 00:31:45,250
you're going to depict it
846
00:31:45,250 --> 00:31:48,041
a little bit yeah does the
847
00:31:48,166 --> 00:31:50,166
scene in conquer's bad fur day with the
848
00:31:50,166 --> 00:31:53,791
great mighty poo get banned yes yes
849
00:31:53,791 --> 00:31:55,916
because it has poo in it
850
00:31:56,416 --> 00:31:58,208
wow it's scat in it actually the
851
00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:01,375
technical term let's see what i think
852
00:32:01,375 --> 00:32:02,833
scat's more sexual isn't
853
00:32:02,833 --> 00:32:07,000
it so it it involves i don't know man
854
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,125
whatever it's supposed to be but i
855
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:10,250
probably would cover
856
00:32:10,416 --> 00:32:12,500
even though it shouldn't conquer bad for
857
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:13,083
day because they're
858
00:32:13,083 --> 00:32:14,875
gonna be play it safe that's
859
00:32:14,875 --> 00:32:17,375
crazy that is crazy animal related to
860
00:32:17,375 --> 00:32:19,083
conquer's bad fur day is also animal
861
00:32:19,083 --> 00:32:20,458
related as well oh yeah
862
00:32:20,625 --> 00:32:24,291
he's got that like waifu and shit that
863
00:32:24,291 --> 00:32:26,541
game man was so edgy the
864
00:32:26,541 --> 00:32:31,875
first day dude yikes but but yeah
865
00:32:31,875 --> 00:32:34,500
it says here that uh it's prohibited
866
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:35,625
themes present in card
867
00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:37,541
processing networks so yes
868
00:32:38,541 --> 00:32:41,500
it's from them it's from ishio they say
869
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:42,458
that's the card networks
870
00:32:42,458 --> 00:32:44,416
the suggesting that they don't
871
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,416
carry any of this stuff so i mean so
872
00:32:47,416 --> 00:32:50,666
could they still have it on
873
00:32:50,666 --> 00:32:52,208
sell but then you have to like
874
00:32:52,208 --> 00:32:54,000
if steam wanted to use multiple
875
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,083
processors sometimes they do exclusive
876
00:32:56,083 --> 00:32:58,166
deals so who knows but
877
00:32:58,958 --> 00:33:00,625
they could then use let's say a
878
00:33:00,625 --> 00:33:02,666
blockchain or they could even do paypal
879
00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:03,875
because you can do paypal or
880
00:33:03,875 --> 00:33:06,666
some of these other uh they're almost
881
00:33:06,666 --> 00:33:07,791
become processors without
882
00:33:07,791 --> 00:33:08,958
having to actually utilize
883
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:12,208
visa remastered card i'm curious if they
884
00:33:12,208 --> 00:33:14,208
could go that route to then
885
00:33:14,208 --> 00:33:15,208
like okay well if you don't
886
00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,791
want us using your card for these titles
887
00:33:17,791 --> 00:33:19,416
then we're going to use
888
00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:21,458
other forms of processing for
889
00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:23,083
these specific titles i could see that
890
00:33:23,083 --> 00:33:24,291
being really confusing for
891
00:33:24,291 --> 00:33:26,541
some consumers but it could
892
00:33:27,666 --> 00:33:29,541
be transparent on the back end if they
893
00:33:29,541 --> 00:33:31,500
really yeah valve does
894
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,083
have a currency built in it's
895
00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:36,083
called steam wallet credits so like the
896
00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:37,125
big question now is
897
00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:39,041
yeah what if i use a visa
898
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,708
to load up like 20 bucks and then i load
899
00:33:42,708 --> 00:33:44,291
up on games that are in
900
00:33:44,291 --> 00:33:45,666
visa's forbidden list what
901
00:33:45,666 --> 00:33:48,541
happens then is did i pay did i pay with
902
00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:49,875
my steam wallet or did i pay
903
00:33:49,875 --> 00:33:52,625
with my visa um legally i'm
904
00:33:52,625 --> 00:33:53,916
sure that's what they're if they really
905
00:33:53,916 --> 00:33:55,000
steam really wanted to do
906
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,083
it i think they could do that
907
00:33:56,083 --> 00:33:58,500
because like i mentioned last time when
908
00:33:58,500 --> 00:33:59,708
when you do uh weed
909
00:33:59,708 --> 00:34:02,625
dispensaries like in nevada i think i
910
00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:05,875
haven't mentioned this you have to go and
911
00:34:05,875 --> 00:34:08,125
um go to an atm and pull
912
00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:09,166
out cash you cannot pay with a
913
00:34:09,166 --> 00:34:11,333
payment processor or at least not a
914
00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:12,958
common one you pull out cash you pay
915
00:34:12,958 --> 00:34:14,291
there that's how those kind
916
00:34:14,291 --> 00:34:17,208
of work with um with weed dispensaries so
917
00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:19,000
yeah it's the same here with weed
918
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,083
dispensaries yeah so
919
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:25,625
they so you you go around and you just
920
00:34:25,625 --> 00:34:26,500
convert it to a different
921
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:27,333
currency and then you pay
922
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,750
if um we wanted to convert like pay for
923
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,000
steam bucks and then use
924
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,041
those steam bucks by the game
925
00:34:34,416 --> 00:34:37,458
should work as the same kind of method so
926
00:34:37,458 --> 00:34:39,166
if visa or mass card does
927
00:34:39,166 --> 00:34:40,875
not allow that that becomes
928
00:34:40,875 --> 00:34:42,916
them bullying the company into doing what
929
00:34:42,916 --> 00:34:44,333
they want without even
930
00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:45,916
using their services directly
931
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:49,166
which i think would steam should be able
932
00:34:49,166 --> 00:34:50,125
to take the court at that
933
00:34:50,125 --> 00:34:52,875
point i'd hope i mean i would
934
00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:56,625
imagine so but i don't know maybe maybe
935
00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,375
steam is gearing up for a
936
00:34:58,375 --> 00:34:59,625
lawsuit or something who knows
937
00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:02,250
but i really just want to go back to cash
938
00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:05,291
completely i hate credit cards so hard
939
00:35:06,041 --> 00:35:07,708
why is it so hard can we keep debit can
940
00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:08,791
we keep debit cards at least
941
00:35:08,791 --> 00:35:09,916
i don't want to carry i don't
942
00:35:09,916 --> 00:35:11,500
want to carry paper around in my wallet
943
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,625
how do i buy my steam games
944
00:35:13,625 --> 00:35:15,541
how do i shove it into the
945
00:35:15,541 --> 00:35:18,250
computer there's you you go to the bank
946
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:20,416
and get like uh i don't want
947
00:35:20,416 --> 00:35:21,750
to go to the bank dude this
948
00:35:22,083 --> 00:35:24,208
is the thing man everything's too fucking
949
00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:25,250
convenient we need to
950
00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:27,750
go back to you know what
951
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,833
you can before you write your your
952
00:35:29,833 --> 00:35:32,583
lawmaker and say we need a a fiat
953
00:35:32,583 --> 00:35:35,416
currency in a digital fiat
954
00:35:35,458 --> 00:35:38,166
currency yeah i want this to definitely
955
00:35:38,166 --> 00:35:39,916
be more democratized and get
956
00:35:39,916 --> 00:35:41,500
away from i don't mind them
957
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:43,958
wanting to do like cards but um to an
958
00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:46,541
extent but we need to democratize like
959
00:35:46,541 --> 00:35:47,750
online payment process
960
00:35:47,875 --> 00:35:49,625
you know you're not whole foods you can
961
00:35:49,625 --> 00:35:51,416
pay with your palm what if you just
962
00:35:51,416 --> 00:35:52,500
attach your currency to
963
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,375
your palm yeah but that's still a payment
964
00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:57,583
processor palm yeah like you
965
00:35:57,583 --> 00:35:59,708
can like scan your palm like
966
00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:03,250
the palm in your hand you can scan it and
967
00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:04,000
yeah it's just a different
968
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,208
authentication method that's
969
00:36:05,208 --> 00:36:08,958
not a payment that's not yeah yeah but
970
00:36:08,958 --> 00:36:11,458
what if we just like did that so that we
971
00:36:11,458 --> 00:36:11,833
didn't have to carry
972
00:36:11,833 --> 00:36:15,250
cash or cards right but that's that's
973
00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:17,500
authentication that's not payment process
974
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,750
fine whatever fair enough
975
00:36:19,833 --> 00:36:21,625
honestly it just does let's just do
976
00:36:21,625 --> 00:36:23,166
stablecoin let's just keep
977
00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:25,916
it simple yeah as long as it's
978
00:36:25,916 --> 00:36:28,416
fiat i don't want i don't want like an
979
00:36:28,416 --> 00:36:30,625
anarchic stablecoin i want
980
00:36:30,625 --> 00:36:32,208
something that has the full
981
00:36:32,208 --> 00:36:34,500
faith and present present it has yeah
982
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:35,625
these stablecoins are fiat
983
00:36:35,625 --> 00:36:37,166
based or can i use my can
984
00:36:37,208 --> 00:36:40,625
i use my gaming pc to to to mine
985
00:36:40,625 --> 00:36:43,000
stablecoin no that's
986
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,541
not how stablecoin works
987
00:36:46,958 --> 00:36:51,375
now stablecoin is stable you can't it
988
00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:52,000
doesn't have just
989
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,416
free coin you can go mine
990
00:36:54,375 --> 00:36:56,708
dude what's the point man what's the
991
00:36:56,708 --> 00:36:59,083
point man it's a
992
00:36:59,083 --> 00:37:00,875
decentralized payment system that's what
993
00:37:01,125 --> 00:37:04,750
it's kind of what it is so yeah i know is
994
00:37:04,750 --> 00:37:06,791
that what you want like
995
00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:10,166
i i cryptocurrency and
996
00:37:10,166 --> 00:37:11,958
blockchain get a lot of bad hey i've i've
997
00:37:11,958 --> 00:37:12,791
tried to promote it multiple
998
00:37:12,791 --> 00:37:14,333
times like that it's not that
999
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:16,708
bad it's there's a lot of bad actors and
1000
00:37:16,708 --> 00:37:18,166
anytime you have a flush of money
1001
00:37:18,166 --> 00:37:18,958
anywhere you're going
1002
00:37:18,958 --> 00:37:22,000
to have those bad actors there's a lot of
1003
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,041
bad actors though so
1004
00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:25,916
yeah i mean it is what it is
1005
00:37:25,958 --> 00:37:28,375
right i know a lot of people do not like
1006
00:37:28,375 --> 00:37:31,750
it still but it has its purpose but yeah
1007
00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:36,041
we might end up going that way just to
1008
00:37:36,041 --> 00:37:38,916
prevent uh you know these
1009
00:37:38,916 --> 00:37:41,166
ms card from ruling us so now
1010
00:37:41,166 --> 00:37:44,958
the big question is what what's what
1011
00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:46,083
being what's going to happen now that
1012
00:37:46,083 --> 00:37:48,041
because the big question
1013
00:37:48,041 --> 00:37:50,000
though is collective shout what more will
1014
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,791
they do because like it's
1015
00:37:52,791 --> 00:37:53,833
probably not this probably not
1016
00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:55,541
going to be the last thing they try to
1017
00:37:55,541 --> 00:37:57,416
censor no no you get when
1018
00:37:57,416 --> 00:37:58,375
you get that type of power
1019
00:37:58,375 --> 00:38:00,125
in your banning stuff we've had this
1020
00:38:00,125 --> 00:38:03,416
happen in the 90s and the in the 2000s
1021
00:38:03,416 --> 00:38:04,125
stuff like that they
1022
00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:06,208
they'll continue to try to ban more and
1023
00:38:06,208 --> 00:38:09,458
more there it is very
1024
00:38:09,458 --> 00:38:11,458
indicative of those type of groups and
1025
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:15,166
i've been not directly related to some of
1026
00:38:15,166 --> 00:38:16,333
these before when i was
1027
00:38:16,333 --> 00:38:17,750
growing up but yeah they're
1028
00:38:17,791 --> 00:38:20,458
they do like to do the stuff so here's so
1029
00:38:20,458 --> 00:38:21,541
here's an interesting one
1030
00:38:21,916 --> 00:38:24,916
they're campaigning to ban uh on twitter
1031
00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:28,458
fly live like that's not gonna happen
1032
00:38:30,458 --> 00:38:33,500
can i talk to Elon Musk yeah yeah yeah
1033
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:36,041
yeah dude Elon enjoys that
1034
00:38:36,041 --> 00:38:37,916
shit dude there's no way he's
1035
00:38:37,916 --> 00:38:40,958
gonna remove it i honestly though like i
1036
00:38:40,958 --> 00:38:41,875
think it there is a
1037
00:38:41,875 --> 00:38:43,750
possibility because i mean while
1038
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:46,708
Elon was like you know fuck you to all of
1039
00:38:46,708 --> 00:38:48,458
the sponsors if you like
1040
00:38:48,458 --> 00:38:50,375
just if the banks just cut
1041
00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:54,375
off his ability to pay i don't know like
1042
00:38:54,375 --> 00:38:56,083
that x yeah i mean that
1043
00:38:56,083 --> 00:38:59,166
would be that would be a whole
1044
00:38:59,166 --> 00:39:00,958
thing altogether funny enough i think he
1045
00:39:00,958 --> 00:39:02,416
wants to be a payment processor i think
1046
00:39:02,416 --> 00:39:03,375
he's working towards
1047
00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:05,666
that yeah that's true he wants x to be
1048
00:39:05,666 --> 00:39:07,125
literally a payment processor
1049
00:39:07,125 --> 00:39:09,083
dude that would be so fucked
1050
00:39:09,125 --> 00:39:11,541
up if x were the most ethical payment
1051
00:39:11,541 --> 00:39:13,125
processor not censored it's
1052
00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:15,708
not gonna be dude even if they
1053
00:39:15,708 --> 00:39:17,833
were a payment processor it would just be
1054
00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:20,666
a matter of like moments before they
1055
00:39:20,666 --> 00:39:21,500
started their cancel
1056
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,208
culture war and you know went after every
1057
00:39:24,208 --> 00:39:25,000
hundred percent everybody
1058
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,083
else yeah a hundred percent
1059
00:39:27,125 --> 00:39:29,791
no yeah you have to have a democratized
1060
00:39:29,791 --> 00:39:31,000
system or else they're just
1061
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,750
going to go after their own
1062
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:34,416
interests and a billionaire owning a
1063
00:39:34,416 --> 00:39:35,583
payment processor system
1064
00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:36,958
is not going to be ethical
1065
00:39:37,916 --> 00:39:41,250
yeah i mean dude he shut off like uh
1066
00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:42,583
starlink to ukrainian
1067
00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:44,750
soldiers who were using it like
1068
00:39:44,958 --> 00:39:47,625
like he has no ethics at all in the
1069
00:39:47,625 --> 00:39:49,458
middle of a campaign too from my
1070
00:39:49,458 --> 00:39:50,500
understanding so it got
1071
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:52,166
people killed he literally killed people
1072
00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:52,958
i don't think he
1073
00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:55,458
understands that he doesn't care
1074
00:39:56,708 --> 00:39:59,333
that's crazy dude i couldn't sleep that
1075
00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:00,791
night if i did that yeah
1076
00:40:00,791 --> 00:40:04,708
oh well well who else isn't
1077
00:40:04,708 --> 00:40:06,250
sleeping at night some of the vtubers
1078
00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:07,208
over there with their
1079
00:40:07,208 --> 00:40:08,791
agencies getting canceled
1080
00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:13,791
well let me clarify it more is well isn't
1081
00:40:13,791 --> 00:40:15,833
it okay yeah you clarify
1082
00:40:15,833 --> 00:40:18,500
i will stop doing bad uh
1083
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:25,708
fair enough so uh the shoujo is was the
1084
00:40:25,708 --> 00:40:27,125
first western like
1085
00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:29,541
agency and one of the biggest
1086
00:40:29,708 --> 00:40:31,666
agencies alongside you know polo live
1087
00:40:31,666 --> 00:40:32,833
which is like the big one
1088
00:40:32,833 --> 00:40:34,666
that everyone knows um so
1089
00:40:34,666 --> 00:40:36,458
basically what ended up happening was
1090
00:40:36,458 --> 00:40:38,166
that it was revealed that uh
1091
00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:39,583
iron mouse was one of the big
1092
00:40:39,583 --> 00:40:41,458
were one of their biggest talents on
1093
00:40:41,458 --> 00:40:43,041
twitch and through her
1094
00:40:43,041 --> 00:40:44,791
subathon it broke records and she
1095
00:40:44,791 --> 00:40:47,791
raised a bunch of money for the uh for a
1096
00:40:47,791 --> 00:40:50,000
immune deficiency foundation
1097
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,750
approximately like half a
1098
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:54,500
million dollars turns out the shoujo has
1099
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:59,958
not paid that out to the uh charity so
1100
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:02,375
it's and as a result
1101
00:41:02,583 --> 00:41:06,000
iron mouse left and as a result literally
1102
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,750
all the v shoujo talents left
1103
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:09,916
and uh this isn't in the dock
1104
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,541
because it just happened like a few days
1105
00:41:11,541 --> 00:41:13,125
ago but the company has
1106
00:41:13,125 --> 00:41:14,625
gone under at this point like
1107
00:41:14,625 --> 00:41:17,375
literally it has to if you lose all your
1108
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:18,500
top talent it's going to
1109
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:21,375
go under um and iron mouse
1110
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:23,500
from understanding is needing the front
1111
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:27,250
of this what 500 000 so um
1112
00:41:27,250 --> 00:41:28,625
to because you can get well
1113
00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:30,791
hopeful depending on how all the
1114
00:41:30,791 --> 00:41:31,500
contracts are set up
1115
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,583
hopefully v shoujo is going to be
1116
00:41:35,458 --> 00:41:37,791
responsible because it is in countries
1117
00:41:37,791 --> 00:41:40,375
like america a felony if
1118
00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:43,166
you do not um so set up a
1119
00:41:43,208 --> 00:41:45,583
charity and you don't actually if you use
1120
00:41:45,583 --> 00:41:47,041
the money so there are more
1121
00:41:47,041 --> 00:41:49,166
so there is a loss so there is
1122
00:41:49,208 --> 00:41:51,166
a legal proceeding going on between iron
1123
00:41:51,166 --> 00:41:52,625
mouse and v and what's left
1124
00:41:52,625 --> 00:41:54,250
of the shoujo at this point
1125
00:41:55,125 --> 00:41:57,250
uh so there isn't so not all the details
1126
00:41:57,250 --> 00:41:59,291
are out there right now but
1127
00:41:59,291 --> 00:42:00,666
that is what we know so far
1128
00:42:00,666 --> 00:42:04,250
they have withheld like 50 000 it's it's
1129
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:04,833
like it's like the
1130
00:42:04,833 --> 00:42:06,250
completionist you guys heard about
1131
00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:10,166
what happened completionist um you're on
1132
00:42:10,166 --> 00:42:11,500
the completion i heard
1133
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:13,041
about that so what he so what
1134
00:42:13,041 --> 00:42:16,000
he did was kind of a similar story he was
1135
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,375
raising money for his
1136
00:42:17,375 --> 00:42:18,750
open hand foundation which is
1137
00:42:19,291 --> 00:42:21,708
not money supposed to go to charity and
1138
00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:22,500
he it was just in his
1139
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:23,625
bank account doing nothing
1140
00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:25,541
he didn't spend it he didn't embezzle it
1141
00:42:25,541 --> 00:42:27,125
just yet but it was there
1142
00:42:27,125 --> 00:42:28,291
sitting there doing nothing
1143
00:42:28,291 --> 00:42:33,083
and um mutahar and uh karl yapst exposed
1144
00:42:33,083 --> 00:42:35,708
this and yeah it basically
1145
00:42:35,708 --> 00:42:37,958
completed his career so to speak
1146
00:42:38,791 --> 00:42:42,000
yep complete his career that is a good
1147
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,250
way to put it i actually like
1148
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:46,291
that so i well iron mouse too
1149
00:42:46,333 --> 00:42:50,958
has even a more rich story too so um hi
1150
00:42:50,958 --> 00:42:51,708
tech you know her story
1151
00:42:51,708 --> 00:42:54,000
right so iron mouse herself
1152
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:56,958
suffers from immune deficiency and so
1153
00:42:56,958 --> 00:42:59,708
she's very so she's a very sickly uh
1154
00:42:59,708 --> 00:43:01,916
person in real life uh
1155
00:43:02,458 --> 00:43:04,166
so that's probably why her story matters
1156
00:43:04,166 --> 00:43:06,375
a lot more like why this
1157
00:43:06,375 --> 00:43:08,291
cancer like not cancer sorry
1158
00:43:08,416 --> 00:43:11,750
this uh this charity matters a lot a
1159
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:13,583
whole lot to her yeah so
1160
00:43:13,583 --> 00:43:16,166
she left uh basically everyone
1161
00:43:16,166 --> 00:43:17,708
left and it's also been revealed that
1162
00:43:17,708 --> 00:43:19,583
they haven't been paying uh certain
1163
00:43:19,583 --> 00:43:21,541
talents for months on end
1164
00:43:21,541 --> 00:43:24,625
there was one uh k-san who was not who
1165
00:43:24,625 --> 00:43:25,500
hasn't been paid since
1166
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,916
september of last year now she still
1167
00:43:28,916 --> 00:43:30,583
makes some money for her own channel but
1168
00:43:30,583 --> 00:43:31,458
v show you're supposed to
1169
00:43:31,458 --> 00:43:32,625
pay her for like merch and all
1170
00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:35,208
that stuff it likes the characters
1171
00:43:35,208 --> 00:43:37,291
thankfully all the talents
1172
00:43:37,291 --> 00:43:39,458
own the ip's to their characters
1173
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:42,083
so i also like iron mouse can continue to
1174
00:43:42,083 --> 00:43:46,916
like stream and stuff as iron mouse but
1175
00:43:48,416 --> 00:43:50,583
you know with most corporate vtubers
1176
00:43:50,583 --> 00:43:52,500
that's not necessarily the case like uh
1177
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,000
gargura arguably the
1178
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,541
biggest western vtuber uh left holo life
1179
00:43:57,541 --> 00:43:58,708
and she has to go into a new
1180
00:43:58,708 --> 00:44:00,208
alias now because technically
1181
00:44:00,875 --> 00:44:05,458
cover corporate japan as her character i
1182
00:44:05,458 --> 00:44:07,500
think if it's um uh if they
1183
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,625
leave under um scrupulous or
1184
00:44:10,625 --> 00:44:15,708
like like bad um under bad management or
1185
00:44:15,708 --> 00:44:17,125
something like that of of the of these
1186
00:44:17,125 --> 00:44:17,833
collectives or these
1187
00:44:17,833 --> 00:44:19,375
groups they should be able to retain
1188
00:44:19,375 --> 00:44:21,125
their ip personally we
1189
00:44:21,125 --> 00:44:24,500
definitely needs better laws on
1190
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:27,000
that type of stuff and it's this happens
1191
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000
all the time it's so crazy
1192
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,625
how often this happens to where
1193
00:44:30,791 --> 00:44:34,583
these uh these groups just go under in
1194
00:44:34,583 --> 00:44:37,458
the case of like in the case of like iron
1195
00:44:37,458 --> 00:44:38,291
mouse i believe iron
1196
00:44:38,291 --> 00:44:40,250
mouse was indy but then went to v show
1197
00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:41,750
joe yep with her character
1198
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:45,250
whereas like with gargura they
1199
00:44:45,291 --> 00:44:46,958
hired someone to play the character it's
1200
00:44:46,958 --> 00:44:48,500
like if like it's like if
1201
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:49,708
you got it's like if you got
1202
00:44:49,708 --> 00:44:51,500
hired to play batman you don't all of a
1203
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:52,875
sudden own the ip or even
1204
00:44:52,875 --> 00:44:55,250
really the suit right no i was
1205
00:44:55,375 --> 00:44:56,916
thinking of like you know how other
1206
00:44:56,916 --> 00:44:58,375
youtube channels they end up
1207
00:44:58,375 --> 00:45:00,416
signing on to um like an mcm
1208
00:45:00,791 --> 00:45:02,458
and mcm that's what i was kind of
1209
00:45:02,458 --> 00:45:03,875
thinking of a little bit and
1210
00:45:03,875 --> 00:45:05,375
then the mcm owns their channel
1211
00:45:05,375 --> 00:45:07,250
and they oftentimes have to buy it back
1212
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:08,166
that's what i was thinking
1213
00:45:08,166 --> 00:45:11,041
yeah i mean i think i'm not
1214
00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:12,833
sure what i'm not sure of the i'm not
1215
00:45:12,833 --> 00:45:15,333
really sure what the uh details of the
1216
00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:16,416
the show the contract
1217
00:45:17,375 --> 00:45:20,958
entails but more or less that's i mean
1218
00:45:20,958 --> 00:45:23,041
that's what happened you
1219
00:45:23,041 --> 00:45:24,833
that's what happens when you
1220
00:45:25,583 --> 00:45:29,375
like embezzle charity funds that's an
1221
00:45:29,375 --> 00:45:30,375
that's an especially
1222
00:45:30,375 --> 00:45:32,958
egregious thing to do yeah so there
1223
00:45:32,958 --> 00:45:36,791
was actually a response from the ceo of v
1224
00:45:36,791 --> 00:45:38,083
show joe it's somewhere on
1225
00:45:38,083 --> 00:45:39,250
twitter uh let me pull it up
1226
00:45:39,250 --> 00:45:41,875
real quick uh it'll take a little bit
1227
00:45:41,875 --> 00:45:43,250
though so you guys see
1228
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:45,916
whatever you want it's fucked
1229
00:45:46,541 --> 00:45:52,583
it's all yeah no it really does uh i just
1230
00:45:52,583 --> 00:45:53,500
i don't know if i could
1231
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:55,166
trust an agency if i was in their
1232
00:45:55,166 --> 00:45:57,041
shoes or if i did it would have to be
1233
00:45:57,041 --> 00:45:58,541
very transparent on the
1234
00:45:58,541 --> 00:46:01,958
transactions like right really
1235
00:46:02,166 --> 00:46:04,208
really transparent like all all
1236
00:46:04,208 --> 00:46:05,333
transactions in the company
1237
00:46:05,333 --> 00:46:08,666
have to be um up front and and
1238
00:46:08,666 --> 00:46:11,375
available to anyone that's contracted i
1239
00:46:11,375 --> 00:46:12,416
sent a response in the
1240
00:46:12,416 --> 00:46:14,125
discord you should uh open it up
1241
00:46:14,166 --> 00:46:18,083
up i will do that
1242
00:46:24,458 --> 00:46:27,666
there we go
1243
00:46:28,458 --> 00:46:31,000
v show joe has failed and i've mismanaged
1244
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,291
the company into the
1245
00:46:32,291 --> 00:46:34,083
situation you're all witnessing
1246
00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:36,416
so today i'm sharing the difficult news
1247
00:46:36,416 --> 00:46:37,166
that v show joe is
1248
00:46:37,166 --> 00:46:38,458
shutting down and i take full
1249
00:46:38,458 --> 00:46:39,875
responsibility for the decisions that led
1250
00:46:39,875 --> 00:46:41,208
us up to this point i've
1251
00:46:41,208 --> 00:46:42,875
been doing everything i can to
1252
00:46:42,916 --> 00:46:45,333
fundraise and right the ship these past
1253
00:46:45,333 --> 00:46:46,708
few months but despite my
1254
00:46:46,708 --> 00:46:47,708
efforts we are in a worse
1255
00:46:47,708 --> 00:46:50,875
position and those i care about are now
1256
00:46:50,875 --> 00:46:52,833
paying the price over the
1257
00:46:52,833 --> 00:46:55,166
last few years we raised about
1258
00:46:55,208 --> 00:46:59,208
11 million to pursue a bold talent first
1259
00:46:59,208 --> 00:47:00,041
approaching the v
1260
00:47:00,041 --> 00:47:01,958
tubing prioritizing creators
1261
00:47:01,958 --> 00:47:04,375
and community over short-term profits to
1262
00:47:04,375 --> 00:47:07,458
achieve long-term sustainability our
1263
00:47:07,458 --> 00:47:08,333
funding went directly
1264
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,541
to our creators through generous splits
1265
00:47:11,541 --> 00:47:13,208
debut investments
1266
00:47:13,208 --> 00:47:15,208
infrastructure concerts events and
1267
00:47:15,208 --> 00:47:18,083
staffing all designed to support them we
1268
00:47:18,083 --> 00:47:19,625
also wanted talents to
1269
00:47:19,625 --> 00:47:21,958
own their ip's which we knew
1270
00:47:21,958 --> 00:47:24,083
was a unique creator first approach to
1271
00:47:24,083 --> 00:47:25,791
ford agency however
1272
00:47:25,791 --> 00:47:27,750
despite all our efforts the
1273
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:29,333
business failed to generate the revenue
1274
00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:30,208
we needed to sustain
1275
00:47:30,208 --> 00:47:31,541
that model and eventually
1276
00:47:32,083 --> 00:47:34,625
we ran out of money additionally i
1277
00:47:34,625 --> 00:47:35,791
acknowledged that some of the
1278
00:47:35,791 --> 00:47:37,500
money spent by the company was
1279
00:47:37,583 --> 00:47:40,041
raised in connection with talent a talent
1280
00:47:40,041 --> 00:47:42,041
activity which i later learned was
1281
00:47:42,041 --> 00:47:43,000
intended for a charitable
1282
00:47:43,125 --> 00:47:44,958
initiative at the time we were working
1283
00:47:44,958 --> 00:47:46,875
hard to raise additional investment
1284
00:47:46,875 --> 00:47:47,750
capital to cover our
1285
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:50,208
costs and i firmly believe based on the
1286
00:47:50,208 --> 00:47:51,166
information available is that
1287
00:47:51,166 --> 00:47:52,125
we would be able to do so and
1288
00:47:52,125 --> 00:47:53,375
cover all of our expenses we were
1289
00:47:53,375 --> 00:47:54,958
unfortunately we were
1290
00:47:54,958 --> 00:47:57,041
unsuccessful in our fundraising efforts
1291
00:47:57,125 --> 00:47:59,083
i made the decision to pursue funding and
1292
00:47:59,083 --> 00:48:00,500
i own as consequences i am
1293
00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:02,500
deeply sorry to all the talent
1294
00:48:02,541 --> 00:48:04,416
staff friends and community members who
1295
00:48:04,416 --> 00:48:05,583
believed in our brand and
1296
00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:07,750
you did not deserve this justin
1297
00:48:08,708 --> 00:48:09,958
they would have been in trouble no matter
1298
00:48:09,958 --> 00:48:11,083
what you can't mix funds
1299
00:48:11,083 --> 00:48:12,041
like that you have to go
1300
00:48:12,166 --> 00:48:14,416
i think believe when it's charity-based
1301
00:48:14,416 --> 00:48:15,541
you it has to go into a
1302
00:48:15,541 --> 00:48:17,791
specialized um bank account or at
1303
00:48:17,791 --> 00:48:20,000
least it can't be transferred a bunch so
1304
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,666
yeah they would have been
1305
00:48:21,666 --> 00:48:23,291
in trouble no matter what
1306
00:48:24,791 --> 00:48:27,666
so this is interesting so he claims he
1307
00:48:27,666 --> 00:48:28,666
doesn't know he didn't know what the
1308
00:48:28,666 --> 00:48:29,250
purpose of the funds
1309
00:48:29,375 --> 00:48:31,875
as as for the uh yeah you can see that
1310
00:48:31,875 --> 00:48:34,625
right there yeah yeah he
1311
00:48:34,625 --> 00:48:36,458
congratulated iron mouse on
1312
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:38,541
raising that half a million dollars for
1313
00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:40,958
the fun that's crazy that's
1314
00:48:40,958 --> 00:48:43,000
that's insane man what why even
1315
00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:46,083
why he doesn't like he didn't know he
1316
00:48:46,083 --> 00:48:46,791
just maybe doesn't know
1317
00:48:46,791 --> 00:48:48,416
what's going on and it just it
1318
00:48:48,625 --> 00:48:52,416
wasn't set up properly the charity
1319
00:48:52,416 --> 00:48:53,708
streams charity stuff
1320
00:48:53,708 --> 00:48:55,500
like really a lot of creators
1321
00:48:55,583 --> 00:48:59,333
just end up using the charities um links
1322
00:48:59,333 --> 00:49:00,166
and stuff so people go
1323
00:49:00,166 --> 00:49:01,708
and donate directly to the
1324
00:49:01,708 --> 00:49:04,583
charity and don't usually take the money
1325
00:49:04,583 --> 00:49:06,041
directly like this it gets
1326
00:49:06,041 --> 00:49:07,000
you in a lot of trouble so
1327
00:49:07,375 --> 00:49:10,666
this guy's is screwed is what i'm
1328
00:49:10,666 --> 00:49:13,333
thinking yeah but despite the
1329
00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:14,625
fact that the company is dead
1330
00:49:14,875 --> 00:49:17,333
and definitely into the ground and you
1331
00:49:17,333 --> 00:49:20,083
know and uh you know all of
1332
00:49:20,083 --> 00:49:21,416
the talents thankfully get to
1333
00:49:21,458 --> 00:49:23,375
keep their ip and all the other accounts
1334
00:49:23,375 --> 00:49:25,458
and whatnot yeah this is only the
1335
00:49:25,458 --> 00:49:27,000
beginning there will be
1336
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,541
legal proceedings and it's going to be
1337
00:49:29,541 --> 00:49:31,666
it's going to be a very interesting
1338
00:49:31,666 --> 00:49:32,666
situation to see what
1339
00:49:32,666 --> 00:49:35,958
happens and to my knowledge this is
1340
00:49:35,958 --> 00:49:37,250
probably the first time in like the
1341
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:38,083
entertainment industry
1342
00:49:38,083 --> 00:49:39,458
where something like this can actually
1343
00:49:39,458 --> 00:49:41,708
happen like like you couldn't see this
1344
00:49:41,708 --> 00:49:42,958
happening in like the
1345
00:49:42,958 --> 00:49:45,000
music industry where every like artist
1346
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,458
leaves a record label and
1347
00:49:46,458 --> 00:49:48,000
like the record label just dies
1348
00:49:48,083 --> 00:49:50,583
right like you couldn't see that today
1349
00:49:50,583 --> 00:49:52,833
could you or like what if
1350
00:49:52,833 --> 00:49:54,125
everyone just what if all the
1351
00:49:54,125 --> 00:49:55,708
talents just stop working in paramount
1352
00:49:55,708 --> 00:49:56,833
like that would never happen
1353
00:49:56,833 --> 00:49:59,416
today right it's really hard
1354
00:49:59,416 --> 00:50:02,541
the difference is like with record labels
1355
00:50:02,541 --> 00:50:03,833
and stuff the record
1356
00:50:03,833 --> 00:50:05,625
label owns the records and all
1357
00:50:05,625 --> 00:50:07,541
the recordings and the and the music that
1358
00:50:07,541 --> 00:50:08,625
the creators create
1359
00:50:08,625 --> 00:50:11,333
right so like if the if the
1360
00:50:11,583 --> 00:50:13,291
talent leaves the record labels they
1361
00:50:13,291 --> 00:50:15,583
still have like the actual
1362
00:50:15,583 --> 00:50:17,333
stuff the monetizable stuff
1363
00:50:18,958 --> 00:50:23,541
with v showjo like they the the people it
1364
00:50:23,541 --> 00:50:24,333
sounds like the talent
1365
00:50:24,333 --> 00:50:26,500
owns their ip and the channels
1366
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:29,833
that they are streaming on so i mean it
1367
00:50:29,833 --> 00:50:31,166
just this it's a different
1368
00:50:31,166 --> 00:50:33,041
it's a precarious business
1369
00:50:33,916 --> 00:50:37,541
sounds like dude but at least it was
1370
00:50:37,541 --> 00:50:38,625
structured in a way that
1371
00:50:38,625 --> 00:50:40,583
favored the talent right
1372
00:50:42,791 --> 00:50:44,500
and that in that one particular way i
1373
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:46,208
guess i have to admit like it is good
1374
00:50:46,208 --> 00:50:47,208
that they retain their
1375
00:50:47,375 --> 00:50:49,791
i think that needs to be the the basis
1376
00:50:49,791 --> 00:50:51,833
for a lot of this stuff it
1377
00:50:51,833 --> 00:50:53,333
should recruit talent you need to
1378
00:50:53,333 --> 00:50:57,291
be able to let them also split off hold
1379
00:50:57,291 --> 00:50:59,791
their ip as um collab like
1380
00:50:59,791 --> 00:51:02,958
not collateral but as a hostage
1381
00:51:02,958 --> 00:51:09,458
yeah extortion yeah it sucks but you know
1382
00:51:09,458 --> 00:51:12,000
what with this thing kind
1383
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,958
of getting into its death
1384
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:16,125
throws like we're going to be seeing a
1385
00:51:16,125 --> 00:51:17,750
lot of stuff come up over
1386
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:19,750
the months over these lawsuits
1387
00:51:20,958 --> 00:51:24,333
we might have a silver lining with games
1388
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:25,916
though stop killing
1389
00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:27,250
games has reached its goal
1390
00:51:27,250 --> 00:51:33,125
which is good they finally hit 1.4 so
1391
00:51:33,125 --> 00:51:37,166
hopefully hopefully 400 000 um
1392
00:51:37,208 --> 00:51:41,750
um people did not fake it from you know
1393
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:43,166
because it from like let's
1394
00:51:43,166 --> 00:51:44,125
say they're from america or
1395
00:51:44,125 --> 00:51:45,791
something like that hopefully it's not
1396
00:51:45,791 --> 00:51:46,916
that that's not the case
1397
00:51:46,916 --> 00:51:48,916
don't you have to have like a
1398
00:51:48,916 --> 00:51:51,625
european id in order to fill out that
1399
00:51:51,625 --> 00:51:54,250
form to begin with i don't know i'm not
1400
00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:55,500
sure i don't know how
1401
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,375
you can think so actually i don't think
1402
00:51:57,375 --> 00:51:59,500
they check id i think they i don't i
1403
00:51:59,500 --> 00:52:00,083
don't know how you can
1404
00:52:00,541 --> 00:52:01,958
i don't know man i don't know how you
1405
00:52:01,958 --> 00:52:02,791
could fake it to be honest
1406
00:52:02,958 --> 00:52:06,666
yeah i don't i don't know exactly either
1407
00:52:06,666 --> 00:52:07,750
but i from my understanding
1408
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:09,500
you can sign up for it if you're
1409
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:15,500
not a citizen so hopefully dude but
1410
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:16,625
regardless of this is great
1411
00:52:16,625 --> 00:52:17,791
news this shows that people
1412
00:52:17,791 --> 00:52:20,125
do care assuming most of these people
1413
00:52:20,125 --> 00:52:21,375
aren't actually butts or
1414
00:52:21,375 --> 00:52:23,916
anything and we actually had
1415
00:52:23,916 --> 00:52:27,791
we actually had uh mr uh ross from stock
1416
00:52:27,791 --> 00:52:29,500
um from stock killing games
1417
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:30,041
on the podcast a couple of
1418
00:52:31,041 --> 00:52:33,875
episodes ago yeah so uh if you want to
1419
00:52:33,875 --> 00:52:34,791
hear his thoughts then
1420
00:52:34,791 --> 00:52:37,000
feel free to do so uh but the
1421
00:52:37,583 --> 00:52:39,500
so the signature account has actually
1422
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:42,208
risen by like 20 000 since i
1423
00:52:42,208 --> 00:52:43,458
like wrote that topic in the
1424
00:52:43,458 --> 00:52:47,416
document so it's still going up yo you
1425
00:52:47,416 --> 00:52:48,375
know what what would make
1426
00:52:48,375 --> 00:52:50,041
this a lot more powerful you
1427
00:52:50,041 --> 00:52:51,083
know what makes this a lot more powerful
1428
00:52:51,083 --> 00:52:53,458
two million two million
1429
00:52:53,458 --> 00:52:56,791
signatures they have four days so
1430
00:52:57,291 --> 00:53:00,875
hmm that would be cool if it was going
1431
00:53:00,875 --> 00:53:01,916
until the end of the year i think they
1432
00:53:01,916 --> 00:53:02,541
would hit two million
1433
00:53:03,833 --> 00:53:06,416
um it's all pretty powerful
1434
00:53:06,416 --> 00:53:07,750
this is still pretty powerful
1435
00:53:09,458 --> 00:53:12,083
yeah well what matters is you know we we
1436
00:53:12,083 --> 00:53:14,000
might we have a good chance of
1437
00:53:14,625 --> 00:53:16,750
games not being killed and i know the
1438
00:53:16,750 --> 00:53:18,541
ubisoft ceo doesn't like that
1439
00:53:19,291 --> 00:53:22,416
yeah you've had your mama
1440
00:53:22,416 --> 00:53:25,083
gulemon but like come on man
1441
00:53:27,375 --> 00:53:35,000
eve gilmo yo yo mama gilmo gosh oh my
1442
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,333
gosh so yeah no he's there like and
1443
00:53:39,333 --> 00:53:39,791
there's a lot of people
1444
00:53:39,791 --> 00:53:41,041
like well how does this work and then
1445
00:53:41,041 --> 00:53:42,041
people just don't understand
1446
00:53:42,041 --> 00:53:44,125
that like um and i've heard so
1447
00:53:44,125 --> 00:53:45,958
many content creators now comment on
1448
00:53:45,958 --> 00:53:46,875
people that don't know what they're
1449
00:53:46,875 --> 00:53:47,416
talking about they're like
1450
00:53:47,458 --> 00:53:50,708
yeah this needs to happen and i don't
1451
00:53:50,708 --> 00:53:52,708
know what the what it's gonna
1452
00:53:52,708 --> 00:53:55,083
take but they go down really
1453
00:53:55,083 --> 00:53:57,583
weird paths only still i've only heard i
1454
00:53:57,583 --> 00:53:59,208
think two people's content
1455
00:53:59,208 --> 00:54:00,208
creators that have fought against
1456
00:54:00,208 --> 00:54:06,875
this to this point so it's hard well two
1457
00:54:06,875 --> 00:54:07,916
content creators that i know
1458
00:54:07,916 --> 00:54:09,875
of wait i write software and
1459
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:12,125
someone else i don't remember who it was
1460
00:54:12,125 --> 00:54:15,000
oh well if you can't i don't i haven't
1461
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:15,500
heard i haven't heard
1462
00:54:15,541 --> 00:54:17,541
the other person like talking i've only
1463
00:54:17,541 --> 00:54:18,458
heard of pirate software
1464
00:54:18,458 --> 00:54:20,375
and you know the greater games
1465
00:54:20,375 --> 00:54:24,083
industry go against this i swear one more
1466
00:54:24,083 --> 00:54:25,041
because i think ross
1467
00:54:25,041 --> 00:54:26,291
brought him up but yeah um
1468
00:54:27,583 --> 00:54:29,166
no but at the end of the day like it's
1469
00:54:29,166 --> 00:54:29,833
hard to get the gaming
1470
00:54:29,833 --> 00:54:31,416
community to to rally against
1471
00:54:31,416 --> 00:54:33,208
uh you know all around something and
1472
00:54:33,208 --> 00:54:34,625
they're rallying uh for
1473
00:54:34,625 --> 00:54:36,208
this and i think if this was
1474
00:54:36,208 --> 00:54:39,458
like a global initiative wasn't just like
1475
00:54:39,458 --> 00:54:40,750
european citizens but like
1476
00:54:40,750 --> 00:54:42,125
a global u.n thing which you
1477
00:54:42,166 --> 00:54:44,708
know that'd be interesting this would be
1478
00:54:44,708 --> 00:54:46,125
much bigger i think we
1479
00:54:46,125 --> 00:54:49,791
would see millions more petition
1480
00:54:49,916 --> 00:54:53,166
um signatures so yeah but it's good that
1481
00:54:53,166 --> 00:54:54,541
ross has focused on you
1482
00:54:54,541 --> 00:54:56,083
know the area that is most
1483
00:54:56,083 --> 00:54:58,000
likely to succeed because i don't because
1484
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:58,750
i don't see anything like
1485
00:54:58,750 --> 00:55:00,583
this in america for sure
1486
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:03,625
well not right now but here's i'm not
1487
00:55:03,625 --> 00:55:05,416
saying that we should do a global i'm
1488
00:55:05,416 --> 00:55:06,208
just saying if it was
1489
00:55:06,208 --> 00:55:08,125
i'm just trying to put into perspective
1490
00:55:08,125 --> 00:55:09,333
that we would still see a
1491
00:55:09,333 --> 00:55:11,000
millions of millions if there
1492
00:55:11,041 --> 00:55:15,916
was a global but um the european union um
1493
00:55:15,916 --> 00:55:17,458
and this is specifically
1494
00:55:17,458 --> 00:55:18,333
geared towards it because
1495
00:55:18,333 --> 00:55:20,708
this is what's needed to bring it towards
1496
00:55:20,708 --> 00:55:24,375
um actually a discussion
1497
00:55:24,375 --> 00:55:25,208
with the european union
1498
00:55:25,458 --> 00:55:28,333
courts to hopefully do something about it
1499
00:55:28,333 --> 00:55:29,416
to maybe put it in a law
1500
00:55:29,416 --> 00:55:31,666
or do something to stop it
1501
00:55:31,708 --> 00:55:38,250
uh well what well ultimately even if we
1502
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:40,083
have 1.4 signature 1 4
1503
00:55:40,083 --> 00:55:42,083
million signatures the battle is
1504
00:55:42,416 --> 00:55:45,333
far from over we now have now you know it
1505
00:55:45,333 --> 00:55:50,375
has to go to like what like the
1506
00:55:50,375 --> 00:55:51,375
parliament is it like
1507
00:55:51,375 --> 00:55:52,958
what parliament would this go to exactly
1508
00:55:52,958 --> 00:55:53,916
or is there like a central
1509
00:55:53,916 --> 00:55:56,000
one for like all of europe
1510
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,416
there's a central european you can think
1511
00:55:59,416 --> 00:56:00,500
you can kind of think of the
1512
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:01,333
european union a little bit
1513
00:56:01,375 --> 00:56:03,541
like the united states where we have a
1514
00:56:03,541 --> 00:56:06,500
federal level um european
1515
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:07,750
union you can think of it a
1516
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:08,916
little bit more on the federal if you
1517
00:56:08,916 --> 00:56:10,500
want to dumb it down all
1518
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:12,041
right fair enough fair enough
1519
00:56:12,875 --> 00:56:16,750
yeah i mean a lot of european politicians
1520
00:56:16,750 --> 00:56:18,458
really supported so i guess
1521
00:56:18,458 --> 00:56:21,125
now it's time to see if uh
1522
00:56:21,291 --> 00:56:23,750
it'll succeed or not and we'll certainly
1523
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:25,000
talk about it when it
1524
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,375
succeeds and what sort of
1525
00:56:28,416 --> 00:56:30,291
ramifications we can expect and we'll
1526
00:56:30,291 --> 00:56:31,250
certainly talk about games
1527
00:56:31,250 --> 00:56:33,958
making changes uh to accommodate
1528
00:56:33,958 --> 00:56:38,708
this new stop killing games reality yeah
1529
00:56:38,708 --> 00:56:40,375
it would definitely be great if we
1530
00:56:40,375 --> 00:56:41,291
stopped killing games
1531
00:56:41,583 --> 00:56:43,500
and just gave us some of the source code
1532
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:44,500
like some of the server
1533
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:45,833
source code or whatever it is but
1534
00:56:45,833 --> 00:56:47,916
that's down the road just stop killing
1535
00:56:47,916 --> 00:56:50,166
the games making it so
1536
00:56:50,166 --> 00:56:53,125
that we can't play them um and
1537
00:56:53,125 --> 00:56:55,708
hopefully this is like uh it might be a
1538
00:56:55,708 --> 00:56:57,416
long road but hopefully it's a road that
1539
00:56:57,416 --> 00:56:58,000
we're going to travel
1540
00:56:58,083 --> 00:57:02,291
to in preservation of all games um yes
1541
00:57:02,291 --> 00:57:07,041
now a long road that
1542
00:57:07,041 --> 00:57:08,166
some teenagers are taking
1543
00:57:08,625 --> 00:57:11,333
on this next topic is uh one third of all
1544
00:57:11,333 --> 00:57:13,041
online teenagers use ai
1545
00:57:13,041 --> 00:57:14,666
chat bots for friendships and
1546
00:57:14,666 --> 00:57:18,083
romantic conversations um you know what
1547
00:57:18,083 --> 00:57:20,291
we all need a side piece every once in a
1548
00:57:20,291 --> 00:57:21,333
while and that's where
1549
00:57:21,375 --> 00:57:24,541
these were ai we all need a side piece
1550
00:57:24,541 --> 00:57:27,958
every now and then don't make me snitch
1551
00:57:27,958 --> 00:57:29,125
on you dear wife man
1552
00:57:30,083 --> 00:57:35,166
she knows oh no gosh but it's one of
1553
00:57:35,166 --> 00:57:36,000
those things who knows maybe
1554
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,125
they already have they're in a
1555
00:57:37,125 --> 00:57:38,708
relationship they just wanted a little uh
1556
00:57:38,708 --> 00:57:40,708
side piece of an ai bot to
1557
00:57:40,708 --> 00:57:41,750
tell them that they're doing
1558
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:43,916
good i guess i don't know it's not even a
1559
00:57:43,916 --> 00:57:46,041
real side piece it's not
1560
00:57:46,041 --> 00:57:48,125
a real person it's not so
1561
00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:50,458
but it's funny it's a study that was it
1562
00:57:50,458 --> 00:57:51,583
was a study that was
1563
00:57:51,583 --> 00:57:53,458
conducted by common sense media
1564
00:57:54,250 --> 00:57:56,375
and i'm not sure how they came to this uh
1565
00:57:56,375 --> 00:57:57,291
conclusion that a
1566
00:57:57,291 --> 00:57:59,416
third of all like teenagers
1567
00:58:00,250 --> 00:58:04,166
use ai but like what the fuck well they
1568
00:58:04,166 --> 00:58:05,166
surveyed like a thousand
1569
00:58:05,166 --> 00:58:07,833
teenagers and more in like
1570
00:58:08,833 --> 00:58:11,666
30 of those i guess uses ai it's insane
1571
00:58:11,666 --> 00:58:13,583
like i don't know what
1572
00:58:13,583 --> 00:58:14,708
to make of it anymore it's
1573
00:58:15,208 --> 00:58:18,583
concerning beyond belief it is concerning
1574
00:58:18,583 --> 00:58:19,791
it's one of those things
1575
00:58:19,791 --> 00:58:20,875
that we've had concerning
1576
00:58:20,958 --> 00:58:23,500
issues like this pop up in the past and
1577
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:25,291
um half the time it blows
1578
00:58:25,291 --> 00:58:27,625
over so we'll see how this
1579
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:30,416
goes because i know um there are more and
1580
00:58:30,416 --> 00:58:31,583
more trends for people like
1581
00:58:31,583 --> 00:58:32,833
teenagers do stuff more in
1582
00:58:32,875 --> 00:58:37,708
in person but yeah there's still going to
1583
00:58:37,708 --> 00:58:39,000
be a big group maybe this
1584
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,541
third that is going to be
1585
00:58:40,541 --> 00:58:44,875
shut-ins and going to be using this to
1586
00:58:44,875 --> 00:58:47,375
substitute a real relationship which
1587
00:58:47,375 --> 00:58:48,291
you're just not going to
1588
00:58:48,291 --> 00:58:50,458
get there not anytime soon and even if
1589
00:58:50,458 --> 00:58:52,416
you do it's it's going to be kind of
1590
00:58:52,416 --> 00:58:56,208
weird i i don't know
1591
00:58:56,750 --> 00:58:59,500
you know how in dante's inferno there's
1592
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,375
like different levels
1593
00:59:01,375 --> 00:59:04,083
of hell for violent crime
1594
00:59:04,333 --> 00:59:06,291
like there's you know crimes against
1595
00:59:06,291 --> 00:59:07,625
people there's crimes
1596
00:59:07,625 --> 00:59:10,041
against nature right there there
1597
00:59:10,166 --> 00:59:12,833
should be if there isn't already lord i'm
1598
00:59:12,833 --> 00:59:14,000
asking you to make a
1599
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,875
special place in hell for for for
1600
00:59:17,125 --> 00:59:21,875
people who are creating technology that
1601
00:59:21,875 --> 00:59:23,666
drives a wedge between
1602
00:59:23,666 --> 00:59:25,916
people in order to divide us
1603
00:59:25,916 --> 00:59:28,708
like like these ai the conversational ais
1604
00:59:28,708 --> 00:59:30,416
or social media like
1605
00:59:30,416 --> 00:59:32,166
yeah exactly like anything
1606
00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:35,458
that like instagram there's a special
1607
00:59:35,458 --> 00:59:36,416
place there should be a
1608
00:59:36,416 --> 00:59:37,375
special place in hell for
1609
00:59:37,375 --> 00:59:38,791
people that do this kind of stuff because
1610
00:59:38,791 --> 00:59:42,000
this is just horrifying so is it
1611
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,083
intentional to split them
1612
00:59:43,083 --> 00:59:44,833
up or to just get them addicted to
1613
00:59:44,833 --> 00:59:46,416
technology so that they're making more
1614
00:59:46,416 --> 00:59:49,000
money it i mean honestly
1615
00:59:49,041 --> 00:59:51,583
that kind of motivation doesn't matter to
1616
00:59:51,583 --> 00:59:53,083
me like if you're if you're
1617
00:59:53,083 --> 00:59:57,916
making i dude at a certain
1618
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,500
point like this right here is the
1619
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:04,958
downfall of humanity i mean like if
1620
01:00:04,958 --> 01:00:05,791
you're not if we're not
1621
01:00:05,791 --> 01:00:07,791
being social with each other if we're not
1622
01:00:07,791 --> 01:00:09,750
focused on each other if if
1623
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:13,666
like the the if we're following
1624
01:00:13,666 --> 01:00:17,333
the pied piper of you know that's running
1625
01:00:17,333 --> 01:00:20,208
all these bots then dude
1626
01:00:20,208 --> 01:00:22,125
these are stochastic parrots
1627
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:25,833
and literally all they do is is repeat
1628
01:00:25,833 --> 01:00:27,333
the training data the
1629
01:00:27,333 --> 01:00:28,875
people who own that training
1630
01:00:28,875 --> 01:00:31,208
data and who can manipulate it will then
1631
01:00:31,208 --> 01:00:33,875
have like the most intimate
1632
01:00:33,875 --> 01:00:37,000
level of destructive control
1633
01:00:37,125 --> 01:00:40,500
over people and it's just it's such
1634
01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:44,041
criminal and like behavior it it boggles
1635
01:00:44,041 --> 01:00:47,000
my mind i stop i think
1636
01:00:47,125 --> 01:00:49,583
what this does more is it covers how
1637
01:00:49,583 --> 01:00:52,041
lonely teenagers are i
1638
01:00:52,041 --> 01:00:53,458
think it covers more of that
1639
01:00:53,458 --> 01:00:54,375
and i think that's what we should be
1640
01:00:54,375 --> 01:00:56,875
taken from this don't get me wrong i i i
1641
01:00:56,875 --> 01:00:57,625
just couldn't imagine
1642
01:00:57,666 --> 01:01:00,250
using an a chat bot that for i use it for
1643
01:01:00,250 --> 01:01:03,208
fun like i use the chat gpt
1644
01:01:03,208 --> 01:01:05,541
to talk to over stuff but like
1645
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,916
i would i don't consider them a friend or
1646
01:01:08,916 --> 01:01:10,708
a romantic conversation
1647
01:01:10,708 --> 01:01:11,750
kind of thing it's just
1648
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:15,791
their interest it's it's fun dude i agree
1649
01:01:15,791 --> 01:01:16,958
sorry go ahead ty thing
1650
01:01:16,958 --> 01:01:21,083
yeah so there's one quote from
1651
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,250
an 18 year old that uh was interviewed it
1652
01:01:24,250 --> 01:01:25,958
says ai is always available
1653
01:01:25,958 --> 01:01:27,500
it never gets bored with you
1654
01:01:27,666 --> 01:01:31,833
it's never judgmental honestly it sounds
1655
01:01:31,833 --> 01:01:32,916
like also kind of a
1656
01:01:32,916 --> 01:01:34,541
blight on them just saying
1657
01:01:35,375 --> 01:01:37,666
i it also sounds like we need to raise
1658
01:01:37,666 --> 01:01:41,208
teenagers better because uh
1659
01:01:41,208 --> 01:01:44,458
come on your your relationships
1660
01:01:44,458 --> 01:01:45,875
are going to be messy and if you want
1661
01:01:45,875 --> 01:01:46,875
someone to be perfect that
1662
01:01:46,875 --> 01:01:47,750
are not that's not a thing
1663
01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:49,916
maybe it's a media that protects like
1664
01:01:49,916 --> 01:01:51,375
shows that you're going
1665
01:01:51,375 --> 01:01:52,375
to need to have a perfect
1666
01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:54,125
relationship but i'm sorry there's no
1667
01:01:54,125 --> 01:01:56,208
such thing you know i'm not gonna lie
1668
01:01:56,208 --> 01:01:57,083
when i first read this
1669
01:01:57,083 --> 01:01:59,625
quote in the article i thought oh it's
1670
01:01:59,625 --> 01:02:00,625
just someone talking
1671
01:02:00,625 --> 01:02:02,458
about why it sucks why ai is
1672
01:02:02,500 --> 01:02:04,000
bad because you know it's always
1673
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,750
available it never gets bored with you
1674
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:06,791
it's never judgmental
1675
01:02:06,958 --> 01:02:08,875
like you know because people are not
1676
01:02:08,875 --> 01:02:10,375
always available and
1677
01:02:10,375 --> 01:02:11,500
sometimes people don't get bored
1678
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:13,291
of you and sometimes they're pretty
1679
01:02:13,291 --> 01:02:15,541
judgmental but no and then
1680
01:02:15,541 --> 01:02:16,750
i realize it's a like it's a
1681
01:02:16,750 --> 01:02:18,833
fucking teenager saying like this is why
1682
01:02:18,833 --> 01:02:19,916
they like it so much and
1683
01:02:19,916 --> 01:02:20,791
there's no there's more too
1684
01:02:20,958 --> 01:02:23,000
when you're talking to ai you're always
1685
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,833
right you're always
1686
01:02:23,833 --> 01:02:25,291
interesting you're always
1687
01:02:25,458 --> 01:02:29,750
emotionally justified no no i'm sorry
1688
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:32,625
dude that's wrong that's the problem
1689
01:02:32,625 --> 01:02:34,041
that's probably how that
1690
01:02:34,333 --> 01:02:37,250
that same person like someone that's
1691
01:02:37,250 --> 01:02:38,125
going to say oh it never
1692
01:02:38,125 --> 01:02:39,666
gets bored of you and it's never
1693
01:02:39,666 --> 01:02:41,458
judgmental they're probably also being
1694
01:02:41,458 --> 01:02:42,875
judgmental with people in
1695
01:02:42,875 --> 01:02:45,416
their life it's a something you
1696
01:02:45,416 --> 01:02:47,291
have to learn to deal with is other
1697
01:02:47,291 --> 01:02:48,208
people and to have
1698
01:02:48,208 --> 01:02:50,583
relationships if we're failing there then
1699
01:02:50,583 --> 01:02:52,500
the school system's failing we we've got
1700
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:53,875
to reinforce it we got
1701
01:02:53,875 --> 01:02:54,833
to put more funds into it
1702
01:02:55,416 --> 01:02:58,333
got to actually have maybe some classes
1703
01:02:58,333 --> 01:03:01,000
on how to utilize ai properly and if
1704
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,541
you're going through
1705
01:03:01,541 --> 01:03:03,708
these certain emotions that you can
1706
01:03:03,708 --> 01:03:08,458
fucking deal with it dude that's it's
1707
01:03:08,458 --> 01:03:11,291
it's it's very tempting
1708
01:03:11,458 --> 01:03:14,000
to to place the blame on these teenagers
1709
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,166
but like the fact is man it's like
1710
01:03:18,166 --> 01:03:21,208
like we were talking about earlier it's
1711
01:03:21,208 --> 01:03:23,041
like the slippery slope is
1712
01:03:23,041 --> 01:03:24,250
is like kind of a bullshit
1713
01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:26,791
argument i'm i'm so skeptical of it and
1714
01:03:26,791 --> 01:03:27,625
especially when we're
1715
01:03:27,625 --> 01:03:29,666
talking about teenagers i am very
1716
01:03:29,666 --> 01:03:31,583
skeptical about the the concept of like
1717
01:03:31,583 --> 01:03:33,791
personal responsibility in a
1718
01:03:33,791 --> 01:03:36,208
free market like i just did
1719
01:03:36,208 --> 01:03:40,583
the technology exists because these are
1720
01:03:40,583 --> 01:03:42,416
easily exploited people
1721
01:03:42,416 --> 01:03:44,333
right and and it's not only
1722
01:03:44,333 --> 01:03:45,708
teenagers right like there are even
1723
01:03:45,708 --> 01:03:48,458
adults who will use this stuff for for
1724
01:03:48,458 --> 01:03:49,250
that purpose and it's
1725
01:03:49,291 --> 01:03:54,625
like uh they it's like it's almost like
1726
01:03:54,625 --> 01:03:55,750
blaming gamblers for
1727
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:57,500
gambling right or being addicted
1728
01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:00,666
to gambling it's like this technology is
1729
01:04:00,666 --> 01:04:03,750
designed with the explicit
1730
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:05,500
purpose of making these people
1731
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:08,583
addicted to this to this use case of the
1732
01:04:08,583 --> 01:04:11,083
tech and it's like uh i i
1733
01:04:11,083 --> 01:04:13,708
am not going to like begrudge
1734
01:04:13,791 --> 01:04:16,541
people who are lonely for doing this but
1735
01:04:16,541 --> 01:04:18,208
like this will only
1736
01:04:18,208 --> 01:04:19,500
magnify your loneliness
1737
01:04:20,625 --> 01:04:23,833
especially because these companies stand
1738
01:04:23,833 --> 01:04:25,833
to make more money when you're lonely
1739
01:04:25,833 --> 01:04:28,500
like i just i i can't
1740
01:04:28,625 --> 01:04:30,541
get behind this in any way shape or form
1741
01:04:30,541 --> 01:04:32,375
like it's so gross they're
1742
01:04:32,375 --> 01:04:33,916
going to be pushing as much as
1743
01:04:33,916 --> 01:04:34,916
possible make sure you're using it as
1744
01:04:34,916 --> 01:04:36,000
much as possible so then
1745
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,666
they can sell you ads through
1746
01:04:38,083 --> 01:04:41,333
like i can't wait till these hey babe why
1747
01:04:41,333 --> 01:04:42,000
don't you go get us a
1748
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,958
coke dude i'm imagining like
1749
01:04:45,208 --> 01:04:49,000
i'm imagining one of these uh like ai
1750
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,875
chatbots sends like
1751
01:04:50,875 --> 01:04:53,000
they're one of their you know
1752
01:04:53,458 --> 01:04:56,208
sends like an ai generated image of like
1753
01:04:56,208 --> 01:04:57,833
one of those wake up babe
1754
01:04:57,833 --> 01:04:59,416
it's time to go get a coke or
1755
01:04:59,416 --> 01:05:01,000
whatever you know like that's literally
1756
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:01,958
what what it's going to come
1757
01:05:01,958 --> 01:05:03,333
to and then there and then the
1758
01:05:03,458 --> 01:05:05,166
sad person who's using it is going to
1759
01:05:05,166 --> 01:05:07,083
chuckle and and then
1760
01:05:07,083 --> 01:05:09,208
go buy a coke it's oh no
1761
01:05:10,875 --> 01:05:13,708
hey did you guys ever see uh the the
1762
01:05:13,708 --> 01:05:16,625
selfish tome what was
1763
01:05:16,625 --> 01:05:17,833
it the selfish ledger
1764
01:05:17,833 --> 01:05:23,250
no i have it oh dude okay you guys you
1765
01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:25,666
have to go watch google's
1766
01:05:25,666 --> 01:05:27,625
selfish ledger it was an
1767
01:05:27,791 --> 01:05:31,041
internal video that was produced by
1768
01:05:31,041 --> 01:05:32,500
google one of the execs at
1769
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:35,875
google and the whole goddamn thing
1770
01:05:36,250 --> 01:05:41,375
was uh that like google can use the data
1771
01:05:41,375 --> 01:05:42,958
that it's collecting today
1772
01:05:42,958 --> 01:05:43,875
and when it was produced it was
1773
01:05:43,875 --> 01:05:47,000
like 2015 or something 2016 that that
1774
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,291
then they could use the data
1775
01:05:48,291 --> 01:05:49,583
collected today to influence
1776
01:05:49,833 --> 01:05:54,250
your ancestors like it's horrifying and
1777
01:05:54,250 --> 01:05:55,833
and like it was used it was like
1778
01:05:55,833 --> 01:05:57,375
producing your ancestors
1779
01:05:57,833 --> 01:05:59,541
i'm sorry your your descendants not your
1780
01:05:59,541 --> 01:06:01,125
ancestors your children and their
1781
01:06:01,125 --> 01:06:03,375
grandchildren right do you
1782
01:06:03,375 --> 01:06:06,750
know what grandpa high tech was into he
1783
01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:07,875
was into some freaky we're
1784
01:06:07,875 --> 01:06:09,166
gonna release it to the world
1785
01:06:09,166 --> 01:06:15,750
that's crazy though man i yeah i've never
1786
01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:17,333
thought about that one of
1787
01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:18,208
the things that they were
1788
01:06:18,250 --> 01:06:20,750
mentioning was like uh you know you
1789
01:06:20,750 --> 01:06:24,375
search for a uh you know you search for
1790
01:06:24,375 --> 01:06:25,583
like a specific like
1791
01:06:25,583 --> 01:06:29,083
family photo and it will generate an ai
1792
01:06:29,083 --> 01:06:31,125
image of your you know
1793
01:06:31,125 --> 01:06:32,458
grandparents or whatever
1794
01:06:33,666 --> 01:06:37,833
and it's and it will sell it to you i i i
1795
01:06:37,833 --> 01:06:39,750
could just imagine waking
1796
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:41,250
up and then it's like babe
1797
01:06:41,375 --> 01:06:42,833
man those clothes are looking pretty
1798
01:06:42,833 --> 01:06:45,208
shabby let's go on down to
1799
01:06:45,208 --> 01:06:46,541
the hot top and get you all
1800
01:06:47,125 --> 01:06:49,583
i don't know you know something you know
1801
01:06:49,583 --> 01:06:50,458
just like you know what we
1802
01:06:50,458 --> 01:06:52,791
should do we should make an ai
1803
01:06:53,041 --> 01:06:56,916
that knows when to say no like no i'm not
1804
01:06:56,916 --> 01:06:58,125
gonna use it though like no
1805
01:06:58,125 --> 01:06:59,291
i'm not gonna do your homework
1806
01:06:59,291 --> 01:07:01,083
i'm not gonna do your homework for you
1807
01:07:01,083 --> 01:07:03,166
timmy that's that's the
1808
01:07:03,166 --> 01:07:04,333
well that would actually be
1809
01:07:04,333 --> 01:07:06,000
kind of fun too on its own but then
1810
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:06,708
there's a there's a kink
1811
01:07:06,708 --> 01:07:10,291
for that so um you know it's
1812
01:07:10,291 --> 01:07:12,000
not gonna be addicting that's the problem
1813
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,166
with all these they're
1814
01:07:13,166 --> 01:07:15,500
addicting they say yes and that's
1815
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:18,291
what they want to hear which is bad this
1816
01:07:18,291 --> 01:07:19,958
and a lot of things will
1817
01:07:19,958 --> 01:07:21,708
not be fixed a lot of our
1818
01:07:21,708 --> 01:07:23,416
health issues a lot of this stuff will
1819
01:07:23,416 --> 01:07:25,875
not be fixed until we have
1820
01:07:25,875 --> 01:07:28,750
um laws in place or you know
1821
01:07:28,750 --> 01:07:31,958
some type of regulation and mental health
1822
01:07:31,958 --> 01:07:32,708
is actually taken
1823
01:07:32,708 --> 01:07:34,625
serious it just won't this is
1824
01:07:34,625 --> 01:07:36,791
a mental health issue and this is a
1825
01:07:36,791 --> 01:07:38,458
mental health issue that has been
1826
01:07:38,458 --> 01:07:40,458
exploited by big corporations
1827
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,791
or corpos at this point we're getting
1828
01:07:42,791 --> 01:07:44,000
into cyberpunk territory
1829
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,541
so strap in i guess yes so
1830
01:07:48,541 --> 01:07:51,000
i just hope that like the end the ending
1831
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,708
of her happens where like
1832
01:07:52,708 --> 01:07:53,916
all the ais just build a
1833
01:07:53,916 --> 01:07:56,708
spaceship and leave that would be so
1834
01:07:56,708 --> 01:08:02,000
funny oh hi yo so there's
1835
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,083
actually a website i linked
1836
01:08:03,375 --> 01:08:06,125
in the document as well a website that
1837
01:08:06,125 --> 01:08:10,666
people use called character.ai uh you
1838
01:08:10,666 --> 01:08:11,875
didn't open it did you
1839
01:08:12,166 --> 01:08:15,375
there it is so you can use this so there
1840
01:08:15,375 --> 01:08:16,083
are characters that
1841
01:08:16,083 --> 01:08:18,125
people make i guess that are
1842
01:08:18,125 --> 01:08:20,666
meant to like simulate like fictional
1843
01:08:20,666 --> 01:08:22,166
characters or you simulate
1844
01:08:22,166 --> 01:08:24,666
real people that say things and
1845
01:08:24,666 --> 01:08:27,041
you can talk with them and i've seen some
1846
01:08:27,041 --> 01:08:27,958
logs where some people
1847
01:08:27,958 --> 01:08:29,208
try to make like romantic
1848
01:08:29,458 --> 01:08:30,791
conversations with some of these
1849
01:08:30,791 --> 01:08:32,083
characters like fictional
1850
01:08:32,083 --> 01:08:35,916
characters and like what the fuck
1851
01:08:37,291 --> 01:08:39,666
it's crazy i mean that's what they're
1852
01:08:39,666 --> 01:08:42,083
trying to do they're trying to
1853
01:08:42,291 --> 01:08:45,625
oh no this is gonna be our dirtiest
1854
01:08:45,625 --> 01:08:47,291
episode yet probably disaster
1855
01:08:47,291 --> 01:08:49,791
me yeah no i don't think it is
1856
01:08:49,791 --> 01:08:53,000
but yeah i think there's one other one um
1857
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,625
do i need to sign up for
1858
01:08:54,625 --> 01:08:55,583
this and see what it's all about
1859
01:08:56,250 --> 01:08:57,375
i think you should
1860
01:08:59,916 --> 01:09:02,500
oh wait dude my birthday is number 30th
1861
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:04,833
yep oh i'm a December
1862
01:09:04,833 --> 01:09:06,125
baby i'm a December baby
1863
01:09:07,666 --> 01:09:12,125
that's right so let's so let's pick a
1864
01:09:12,125 --> 01:09:15,625
character uh do you want to do Jason
1865
01:09:15,625 --> 01:09:17,625
Voorhees that is hilarious
1866
01:09:17,625 --> 01:09:19,791
try to romance Jason Voorhees dude pick
1867
01:09:19,791 --> 01:09:21,208
Jason Voorhees we have dude
1868
01:09:21,208 --> 01:09:23,000
you got for you how does he
1869
01:09:23,041 --> 01:09:25,416
even know who i am yet is this is this a
1870
01:09:25,416 --> 01:09:26,833
licensed character is
1871
01:09:26,833 --> 01:09:28,000
this vast crosshopper
1872
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:34,875
account crystal lake where they what
1873
01:09:34,875 --> 01:09:35,958
what's with this name
1874
01:09:35,958 --> 01:09:37,791
that's your that's your username
1875
01:09:38,166 --> 01:09:41,291
oh yeah i think you have to change it oh
1876
01:09:41,291 --> 01:09:42,708
yeah i see down there huh look at that
1877
01:09:42,750 --> 01:09:54,583
hey oh no oh no we lost James hey Jason
1878
01:09:54,583 --> 01:09:56,666
stopped looking towards me
1879
01:09:56,666 --> 01:09:58,208
he was silent for a moment and
1880
01:09:58,208 --> 01:10:00,208
then he started walking towards them his
1881
01:10:00,208 --> 01:10:01,291
footsteps loud and imposing
1882
01:10:01,291 --> 01:10:03,250
hey he said gruffly once he
1883
01:10:03,250 --> 01:10:05,708
finally reached them he he turned over
1884
01:10:05,708 --> 01:10:07,500
them eyes called and
1885
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:10,666
calculating don't seduce him no
1886
01:10:12,708 --> 01:10:12,750
oh
1887
01:10:18,791 --> 01:10:21,500
that's so cute what are you doing to me
1888
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,916
dude i'm gonna this is me that i like
1889
01:10:23,916 --> 01:10:25,125
screwing around with
1890
01:10:25,125 --> 01:10:26,708
these bots it's fun because it's really
1891
01:10:26,708 --> 01:10:28,625
interesting to see what they come up with
1892
01:10:29,208 --> 01:10:31,250
hunting oh that's what he's hunting
1893
01:10:31,250 --> 01:10:34,916
that's what you're gonna be hunting i'm
1894
01:10:34,916 --> 01:10:36,083
not gonna get dude we
1895
01:10:36,083 --> 01:10:37,291
need to clip that out and put it into
1896
01:10:37,291 --> 01:10:38,416
like the patreon because
1897
01:10:38,416 --> 01:10:40,375
i'd be getting much dirtier oh
1898
01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:44,375
we'll save this we'll
1899
01:10:44,375 --> 01:10:45,916
keep it safe for work for
1900
01:10:46,708 --> 01:10:48,000
i'm gonna be keeping it safe where i
1901
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,333
could easily nod let's say
1902
01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:50,583
pray jason said his voice
1903
01:10:50,625 --> 01:10:53,458
low and gravelly he was so close he could
1904
01:10:53,458 --> 01:10:55,500
reach out and touch his eyes
1905
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:56,583
were fixed on them studying
1906
01:10:56,583 --> 01:10:58,666
them intently he he brought his hand down
1907
01:10:58,666 --> 01:10:59,333
and grabbing their
1908
01:10:59,333 --> 01:11:00,708
chin roughly tilting their
1909
01:11:00,708 --> 01:11:09,000
do you got handcuffs
1910
01:11:12,708 --> 01:11:19,875
how do you spell cuffs see you see you
1911
01:11:19,875 --> 01:11:23,583
see you ffs see oh see you
1912
01:11:23,583 --> 01:11:26,666
ffs okay yeah of course i don't
1913
01:11:26,666 --> 01:11:28,541
know i don't always spell handcuffs very
1914
01:11:28,541 --> 01:11:32,291
often don't worry jason
1915
01:11:32,291 --> 01:11:33,750
voor he has probably has some
1916
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:37,500
handcuffs as a matter of fact i do all
1917
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:41,708
right that's kidded he has scared cuffs
1918
01:11:41,833 --> 01:11:45,458
no i mean he's the one you say yes daddy
1919
01:11:45,458 --> 01:11:48,833
you read my mind i
1920
01:11:48,833 --> 01:11:50,208
definitely was gonna say
1921
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:55,750
okay or you can't do anymore we'd have to
1922
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:57,791
uh yeah patreon any further
1923
01:11:58,333 --> 01:12:03,000
oh no okay we're done here we're done
1924
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,750
we've opened pandora's box
1925
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:07,000
this is much crazier than
1926
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,875
i expected to be honest i i can't oh this
1927
01:12:09,875 --> 01:12:14,166
is pretty par for the core but yikes dude
1928
01:12:14,166 --> 01:12:18,791
there you go all right so well now i have
1929
01:12:18,791 --> 01:12:19,083
a girlfriend named jason
1930
01:12:19,125 --> 01:12:25,500
i know he's a a guy but that is
1931
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:27,625
interesting that you have different
1932
01:12:27,625 --> 01:12:29,875
characters well let's search
1933
01:12:29,875 --> 01:12:32,583
for like i i will i will say that that
1934
01:12:32,583 --> 01:12:33,791
didn't really feel like
1935
01:12:33,791 --> 01:12:36,000
jason to me no that's because
1936
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,166
they're made by like people yeah yeah
1937
01:12:39,166 --> 01:12:39,916
they're they're cannot write people can't write for
1938
01:12:40,333 --> 01:12:42,708
right people can't write for shit to be
1939
01:12:42,708 --> 01:12:46,750
honest okay here's my thing
1940
01:12:46,750 --> 01:12:48,916
i i do wonder what your whole
1941
01:12:48,916 --> 01:12:52,458
clothing is trending no his ghost has
1942
01:12:52,458 --> 01:12:56,333
come back damn that didn't
1943
01:12:56,333 --> 01:13:00,500
take long um oh no don't do it
1944
01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:05,083
don't do it don't do it i'm doing it dude
1945
01:13:05,083 --> 01:13:08,000
i bet you he's in there oh
1946
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,500
i've used it i've used the trump
1947
01:13:09,833 --> 01:13:12,208
ai bought before dude there's nothing
1948
01:13:12,208 --> 01:13:13,625
there's no way he wouldn't
1949
01:13:13,625 --> 01:13:15,541
be here what if it's the trump
1950
01:13:15,541 --> 01:13:17,125
from the end of the south park episode
1951
01:13:17,125 --> 01:13:20,166
this week i haven't i haven't
1952
01:13:20,166 --> 01:13:21,500
seen that actually that's one
1953
01:13:21,583 --> 01:13:24,958
that is crazy it might be the best
1954
01:13:24,958 --> 01:13:26,250
episode of south park so
1955
01:13:26,250 --> 01:13:28,583
just for some context people
1956
01:13:28,791 --> 01:13:35,750
this this is so paramount is um went into
1957
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:37,208
a deal with the creators of
1958
01:13:37,208 --> 01:13:38,875
south park for 1.5 billion
1959
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:44,833
dollars and um it's not paramount is it
1960
01:13:44,833 --> 01:13:46,208
paramount that owns cbs or
1961
01:13:46,208 --> 01:13:47,666
is it cbs owns paramount yeah
1962
01:13:47,833 --> 01:13:52,208
and so paramount is also trying to do um
1963
01:13:52,208 --> 01:13:55,541
a merger with the second largest
1964
01:13:55,541 --> 01:13:57,541
billionaire in the world
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01:13:57,750 --> 01:14:02,583
this company to merge in and they so
1966
01:14:02,583 --> 01:14:04,166
paramount gave up on 60
1967
01:14:04,166 --> 01:14:05,666
seconds lawsuit essentially against
1968
01:14:05,708 --> 01:14:07,666
trump which should have been an easy win
1969
01:14:07,666 --> 01:14:09,416
for 60 seconds 60 minutes
1970
01:14:09,416 --> 01:14:10,791
and a bunch of other stuff
1971
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,666
they right when they signed the deal for
1972
01:14:14,666 --> 01:14:15,875
1.5 billion they
1973
01:14:15,875 --> 01:14:18,708
released the um episode like the
1974
01:14:18,708 --> 01:14:21,583
next day of just complete mockery of
1975
01:14:21,583 --> 01:14:25,083
trump maybe killing the the uh merger
1976
01:14:25,083 --> 01:14:26,250
deal altogether that
1977
01:14:27,375 --> 01:14:29,541
paramount has been bending back over
1978
01:14:29,541 --> 01:14:33,000
whatever whatever yeah
1979
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,583
bending the knee to trump and so
1980
01:14:34,708 --> 01:14:37,458
just a little bit of irony and and sweet
1981
01:14:37,458 --> 01:14:39,375
justice does come every
1982
01:14:39,375 --> 01:14:41,875
once well and also just just so
1983
01:14:41,875 --> 01:14:45,416
you know larry ellison is the guy who is
1984
01:14:45,416 --> 01:14:47,333
like behind oracle right
1985
01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:49,666
one of the literally the worst
1986
01:14:50,083 --> 01:14:53,250
what if not one of the worst uh like tech
1987
01:14:53,250 --> 01:14:54,583
companies in the entire world
1988
01:14:54,583 --> 01:14:58,666
yeah and it's his stooge sons too that
1989
01:14:58,666 --> 01:15:00,000
are that ross guy dance so
1990
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,000
it's like it is that it's just
1991
01:15:02,083 --> 01:15:06,958
it could not be more dire uh yeah
1992
01:15:06,958 --> 01:15:10,125
billionaires just fighting
1993
01:15:10,125 --> 01:15:12,250
over each other to to own us
1994
01:15:12,500 --> 01:15:14,625
is really what it's coming down to no
1995
01:15:14,625 --> 01:15:18,166
well that's it's fun but you
1996
01:15:18,166 --> 01:15:19,166
know there's some sweet justice
1997
01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:22,583
in this world a little bit um we got that
1998
01:15:22,583 --> 01:15:23,875
episode and i'm excited for
1999
01:15:23,875 --> 01:15:24,791
anything else that comes out
2000
01:15:24,791 --> 01:15:26,000
that they're going to be doing because
2001
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,625
it's gonna get spicy yeah
2002
01:15:28,625 --> 01:15:31,458
yes just like these chat bots
2003
01:15:31,708 --> 01:15:33,708
should i try to romance uh donald trump
2004
01:15:33,708 --> 01:15:35,833
and his uh i'm not not
2005
01:15:35,833 --> 01:15:38,875
right now dude i don't know if i
2006
01:15:38,875 --> 01:15:41,250
could i i think i'd throw up when i did
2007
01:15:41,250 --> 01:15:43,166
it like i used uh trump bot
2008
01:15:43,166 --> 01:15:45,541
like months ago it was more or
2009
01:15:45,541 --> 01:15:47,250
less just asking them stupid questions
2010
01:15:47,250 --> 01:15:49,333
it's just to see him respond
2011
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:51,083
in a stupid manner yeah that's
2012
01:15:51,083 --> 01:15:56,375
it so you don't want to be satan i'm
2013
01:15:56,375 --> 01:15:58,083
satan's the good guy in the in
2014
01:15:58,083 --> 01:15:59,750
the whole story yeah hey come
2015
01:15:59,791 --> 01:16:03,541
on up buddy relax buddy relax buddy
2016
01:16:06,625 --> 01:16:08,666
oh let's get off to this next thing
2017
01:16:08,666 --> 01:16:11,083
before i i mean we we're not
2018
01:16:11,083 --> 01:16:12,166
posting this internet right
2019
01:16:12,875 --> 01:16:14,750
no no this is just for us where this is
2020
01:16:14,750 --> 01:16:16,791
not i'm kidding i'm kidding
2021
01:16:16,791 --> 01:16:18,333
this is fine going internet
2022
01:16:18,541 --> 01:16:20,708
uh but before i can't go any further or
2023
01:16:20,708 --> 01:16:22,208
else we can't post it okay
2024
01:16:22,208 --> 01:16:25,916
but destiny two is world first
2025
01:16:26,250 --> 01:16:29,208
world's first raid race full of cheaters
2026
01:16:29,208 --> 01:16:33,125
is the next topic so
2027
01:16:33,125 --> 01:16:36,416
among the top 100 ranked
2028
01:16:37,041 --> 01:16:38,916
teams finishing it it's ranked by like
2029
01:16:38,916 --> 01:16:41,708
speed of course 70 of
2030
01:16:41,708 --> 01:16:43,666
the people that cleared the
2031
01:16:43,666 --> 01:16:45,583
you know contest mode for this new raid
2032
01:16:45,583 --> 01:16:47,291
um the desert perpetual
2033
01:16:47,291 --> 01:16:50,000
have cheated in some form or
2034
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,250
another and it's totally insane to me
2035
01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:55,666
that it's never been this bad before
2036
01:16:55,666 --> 01:16:56,833
because i i've played
2037
01:16:56,833 --> 01:16:58,125
destiny too it's never been this bad
2038
01:16:58,125 --> 01:16:59,750
before to the point where people cheat
2039
01:16:59,750 --> 01:17:02,250
pve and not just some
2040
01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:04,541
people like a lot of people a lot of
2041
01:17:04,541 --> 01:17:07,333
fucking people dude i don't
2042
01:17:07,333 --> 01:17:10,291
know man it's like so is this
2043
01:17:10,333 --> 01:17:13,541
why uh one out of every three uh
2044
01:17:13,541 --> 01:17:15,458
teenagers is comfortable with that
2045
01:17:15,458 --> 01:17:16,291
romancing bots because
2046
01:17:16,333 --> 01:17:18,708
they're doing it in destiny two all the
2047
01:17:18,708 --> 01:17:20,041
time well you well you see
2048
01:17:20,041 --> 01:17:23,208
no no no no the one third
2049
01:17:23,208 --> 01:17:26,250
of all teenagers are busy on character.ai
2050
01:17:26,250 --> 01:17:27,833
whereas the other two thirds
2051
01:17:27,833 --> 01:17:29,125
are busy cheating in destiny
2052
01:17:29,208 --> 01:17:31,500
too obviously right but like they're
2053
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:32,583
they're already interacting
2054
01:17:32,583 --> 01:17:33,958
with bots in destiny that's
2055
01:17:33,958 --> 01:17:35,291
what i'm saying so like that's why the
2056
01:17:35,291 --> 01:17:36,833
other third is now comfortable
2057
01:17:36,833 --> 01:17:39,625
with bots man well so well no
2058
01:17:39,958 --> 01:17:42,708
it's cheating with their bot ai's
2059
01:17:42,708 --> 01:17:45,500
girlfriends with uh with aim
2060
01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:47,083
bots that's that's that's the
2061
01:17:47,083 --> 01:17:51,375
thing they're cheating on their digital
2062
01:17:51,375 --> 01:17:57,458
girlfriend oh my god but i saw that you
2063
01:17:57,458 --> 01:18:00,416
had an ai aim bot are
2064
01:18:00,416 --> 01:18:02,458
you i can just see them getting angry oh
2065
01:18:02,458 --> 01:18:04,875
my gosh okay that's no i you
2066
01:18:04,875 --> 01:18:06,000
just help me cheat on my test
2067
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,541
but yes essentially it's kind of
2068
01:18:10,541 --> 01:18:12,500
disappointing because i think bungee laid
2069
01:18:12,500 --> 01:18:13,291
off a bunch of people
2070
01:18:13,291 --> 01:18:16,125
too right so they laid off a bunch of
2071
01:18:16,125 --> 01:18:18,708
people in the security team uh and you
2072
01:18:18,708 --> 01:18:19,416
can imagine what that
2073
01:18:19,416 --> 01:18:22,458
would lead to yeah meanwhile meanwhile
2074
01:18:22,458 --> 01:18:23,500
they won't support linux
2075
01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:25,250
because it's the cheating operating
2076
01:18:25,291 --> 01:18:27,291
system well dude obviously it obviously
2077
01:18:27,291 --> 01:18:28,250
if they supported linux
2078
01:18:28,250 --> 01:18:29,958
they would go from 70 to 100
2079
01:18:30,083 --> 01:18:31,916
cheaters don't you know that i'm pretty
2080
01:18:31,916 --> 01:18:33,916
sure that this is from them
2081
01:18:33,916 --> 01:18:35,000
supporting linux at one point
2082
01:18:35,041 --> 01:18:37,416
no they didn't they've never supported
2083
01:18:37,416 --> 01:18:38,750
i've never i know i'm kidding
2084
01:18:39,583 --> 01:18:40,916
so it would be something like we thought
2085
01:18:40,916 --> 01:18:41,875
about doing it in the past
2086
01:18:41,875 --> 01:18:42,833
that's why these are there's
2087
01:18:42,833 --> 01:18:45,541
cheaters so yeah by the way so of course
2088
01:18:45,541 --> 01:18:47,916
cheaters didn't stream their video
2089
01:18:47,916 --> 01:18:48,875
they're like world's
2090
01:18:48,875 --> 01:18:53,083
first clear obviously but he but all the
2091
01:18:53,083 --> 01:18:54,375
data is publicly available
2092
01:18:54,375 --> 01:18:55,583
like you can look at people's
2093
01:18:55,583 --> 01:18:57,500
raid completions and see like the
2094
01:18:57,500 --> 01:19:00,583
statistics and whatnot right so here are
2095
01:19:00,583 --> 01:19:01,750
some statistics that
2096
01:19:02,041 --> 01:19:05,208
people discovered some some telltale
2097
01:19:05,208 --> 01:19:06,291
signs of cheating first
2098
01:19:06,291 --> 01:19:07,375
and foremost is one person
2099
01:19:07,375 --> 01:19:08,958
carrying with a lot of kills while the
2100
01:19:08,958 --> 01:19:11,500
rest of the team barely has any and in
2101
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:12,208
the game like destiny
2102
01:19:12,250 --> 01:19:13,916
too where you're doing like literal
2103
01:19:13,916 --> 01:19:15,541
endgame activities where
2104
01:19:15,541 --> 01:19:17,458
you like the entire team has
2105
01:19:17,458 --> 01:19:21,041
to participate this is a red flag number
2106
01:19:21,041 --> 01:19:22,291
two incredibly fast
2107
01:19:22,291 --> 01:19:23,958
clear times one 20 minutes
2108
01:19:24,166 --> 01:19:25,916
for those insanely hard sections that
2109
01:19:25,916 --> 01:19:27,083
took legitimate teams
2110
01:19:27,083 --> 01:19:29,291
hours and destiny is famous
2111
01:19:29,458 --> 01:19:31,833
for like world's first like taking over a
2112
01:19:31,833 --> 01:19:33,083
day to complete raid like
2113
01:19:33,083 --> 01:19:34,125
complete raids for the first
2114
01:19:34,125 --> 01:19:37,958
time right but it's famous for that let's
2115
01:19:37,958 --> 01:19:39,000
see certain weapons like
2116
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,500
loren's driver or duality
2117
01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:43,000
to help with rate limiting it sounds like
2118
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,833
a network like sort of
2119
01:19:44,833 --> 01:19:47,583
thing destiny has a history
2120
01:19:47,583 --> 01:19:49,500
with that too where i think in destiny
2121
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:51,541
one there was a bot there was a boss uh
2122
01:19:51,541 --> 01:19:54,291
kroda where normally
2123
01:19:54,291 --> 01:19:56,166
he'd be a difficult boss to fight but if
2124
01:19:56,166 --> 01:19:57,250
you pull your e-thanet out
2125
01:19:57,250 --> 01:19:59,166
of your xbox then you can just
2126
01:19:59,208 --> 01:20:00,583
kill him because he doesn't do anything
2127
01:20:00,583 --> 01:20:05,041
apparently let's see endless heavy kills
2128
01:20:05,041 --> 01:20:06,875
uh because all right
2129
01:20:06,875 --> 01:20:09,791
so heavy weapons in destiny two are very
2130
01:20:09,791 --> 01:20:11,041
limited in ammo and they
2131
01:20:11,041 --> 01:20:12,000
tend to be like your powerful
2132
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,375
weapons that you want to save for bosses
2133
01:20:13,375 --> 01:20:16,541
and whatnot but if you get a bunch of
2134
01:20:16,541 --> 01:20:17,541
kills with those then
2135
01:20:17,541 --> 01:20:20,291
of course you're just having it you just
2136
01:20:20,291 --> 01:20:21,000
have an infinite ammo
2137
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,708
cheat right probably is this
2138
01:20:22,875 --> 01:20:25,250
are these like exploits more than like
2139
01:20:25,250 --> 01:20:26,541
actually using hacks or
2140
01:20:26,541 --> 01:20:27,666
something like no some of these
2141
01:20:27,708 --> 01:20:29,250
are no certainly some of these are
2142
01:20:29,250 --> 01:20:33,583
certainly hacks uh like number two
2143
01:20:33,583 --> 01:20:34,750
incredibly fast clear
2144
01:20:34,750 --> 01:20:37,083
times one to 20 minutes and this is like
2145
01:20:37,083 --> 01:20:38,458
before any guides and
2146
01:20:38,458 --> 01:20:41,500
anything were published but an
2147
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:43,333
exploit you with exploits you can get
2148
01:20:43,333 --> 01:20:44,916
through levels really fast
2149
01:20:44,916 --> 01:20:47,583
yeah you you certainly that's
2150
01:20:47,583 --> 01:20:50,208
what i'm asking is this like exploits are
2151
01:20:50,208 --> 01:20:51,916
actually like because i don't
2152
01:20:51,916 --> 01:20:53,250
know if i'd consider exploits
2153
01:20:53,375 --> 01:20:57,416
cheating so much but well it really
2154
01:20:57,416 --> 01:21:00,208
depends but i mean this is a
2155
01:21:00,208 --> 01:21:01,583
this is an act it's a world's
2156
01:21:01,583 --> 01:21:03,458
first race and the race begins as soon as
2157
01:21:03,458 --> 01:21:05,333
the raid like like releases
2158
01:21:05,333 --> 01:21:06,625
i guess it's true so there'd
2159
01:21:06,625 --> 01:21:08,708
be no way for you to unless you have like
2160
01:21:08,708 --> 01:21:10,000
an inside guy telling you
2161
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,166
about like some exploits
2162
01:21:11,166 --> 01:21:13,083
or whatever but there'd be no way of
2163
01:21:13,083 --> 01:21:15,625
knowing that right is it
2164
01:21:15,625 --> 01:21:17,625
inside job it's inside job
2165
01:21:17,958 --> 01:21:19,791
there have been accusations of inside
2166
01:21:19,791 --> 01:21:21,250
jobs too uh from
2167
01:21:21,250 --> 01:21:24,500
previous uh raid races but oh
2168
01:21:24,500 --> 01:21:27,833
yeah and then also new accounts that
2169
01:21:27,833 --> 01:21:29,416
barely have any raid clears
2170
01:21:29,416 --> 01:21:31,625
also doing it as well that's also
2171
01:21:31,625 --> 01:21:35,083
a red flag too well look at that kill
2172
01:21:35,083 --> 01:21:37,000
death ratio you have one
2173
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,666
guy with a 78 kill death ratio
2174
01:21:40,083 --> 01:21:41,541
and the rest of the team has like lesson
2175
01:21:41,541 --> 01:21:44,791
one and in a pve game like
2176
01:21:44,791 --> 01:21:45,750
destiny it's really easy to
2177
01:21:45,791 --> 01:21:49,750
get kills like regular kills yes but
2178
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:53,166
that's the entire raid look he only got
2179
01:21:53,166 --> 01:21:54,000
two kills the entire
2180
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,583
raid what the fuck that's not real that's
2181
01:21:58,583 --> 01:21:59,916
so crazy are these
2182
01:21:59,916 --> 01:22:01,250
individual or teams of three
2183
01:22:01,666 --> 01:22:04,375
well no this is this is a team this is
2184
01:22:04,375 --> 01:22:05,958
one team of six so this is
2185
01:22:05,958 --> 01:22:07,625
just one team so this is the
2186
01:22:07,625 --> 01:22:09,500
whole team okay this is the whole team
2187
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:11,958
together so one yeah no
2188
01:22:11,958 --> 01:22:14,375
this makes sense i this this is
2189
01:22:14,416 --> 01:22:16,750
looks like my type of battles where i'm
2190
01:22:16,750 --> 01:22:19,166
carrying the whole team yeah
2191
01:22:19,166 --> 01:22:20,708
but i mean that makes sense
2192
01:22:20,708 --> 01:22:22,791
but like in destiny two you really can't
2193
01:22:22,791 --> 01:22:24,416
do that you i know you i
2194
01:22:24,416 --> 01:22:26,041
know you can't like i'm kidding
2195
01:22:26,041 --> 01:22:28,041
but it definitely makes it look like one
2196
01:22:28,041 --> 01:22:29,041
person's carrying the whole
2197
01:22:29,041 --> 01:22:30,583
team but yeah that's like dude
2198
01:22:30,583 --> 01:22:32,375
if you could if that if that were
2199
01:22:32,375 --> 01:22:34,000
actually the case in destiny two then
2200
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,375
like i would like i think
2201
01:22:35,375 --> 01:22:36,791
people would do raids more because they
2202
01:22:36,791 --> 01:22:39,541
just get carried oh yeah yeah
2203
01:22:39,541 --> 01:22:41,250
well and the completion time
2204
01:22:41,291 --> 01:22:45,333
is so short it's so so far like you can
2205
01:22:45,333 --> 01:22:50,041
certainly speed run uh raids after like
2206
01:22:50,041 --> 01:22:50,916
everyone figures out
2207
01:22:50,916 --> 01:22:54,208
the like mechanics and shit and like the
2208
01:22:54,208 --> 01:22:55,375
shortcuts and like like
2209
01:22:55,375 --> 01:22:57,500
in-game exploits right you can
2210
01:22:57,500 --> 01:22:58,791
certainly do that but like for a world's
2211
01:22:58,791 --> 01:23:01,000
first like like no and
2212
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,291
like normally it takes hours
2213
01:23:02,541 --> 01:23:04,500
sometimes it even takes an entire day
2214
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:08,500
that kill death ratio is crazy too
2215
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:15,500
uh well
2216
01:23:18,625 --> 01:23:22,416
man it's it's i will we ever get rid of
2217
01:23:22,416 --> 01:23:24,875
cheaters in video games will it happen
2218
01:23:25,708 --> 01:23:27,958
bungee's been trying to like sue some
2219
01:23:27,958 --> 01:23:29,708
cheat makers which i think
2220
01:23:29,708 --> 01:23:31,833
i don't like i don't like
2221
01:23:31,833 --> 01:23:33,625
when companies use litigation to get
2222
01:23:33,625 --> 01:23:34,958
their way but in this
2223
01:23:34,958 --> 01:23:36,125
case i'm totally fine with it
2224
01:23:37,125 --> 01:23:40,166
to be honest yeah it's it's so hard
2225
01:23:40,166 --> 01:23:41,708
because it comes down to
2226
01:23:43,291 --> 01:23:45,166
really comes down to the game makers to
2227
01:23:45,166 --> 01:23:47,000
to try to make it so that
2228
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,750
you can't hack it and all but
2229
01:23:49,125 --> 01:23:50,833
if there's companies making legitimate
2230
01:23:50,833 --> 01:23:52,041
money and just that's
2231
01:23:52,041 --> 01:23:53,041
how they keep on funding
2232
01:23:53,666 --> 01:23:55,916
new ways to hack and exploit the game
2233
01:23:55,916 --> 01:23:58,125
then yeah you don't have to
2234
01:23:58,125 --> 01:23:59,500
stop it yeah that's really
2235
01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:02,166
expensive because the money yeah it's a
2236
01:24:02,166 --> 01:24:04,416
huge industry of like of
2237
01:24:04,416 --> 01:24:06,000
these guys making cheats too
2238
01:24:06,166 --> 01:24:08,416
it's not just like a guy in his basement
2239
01:24:08,416 --> 01:24:10,875
is there a market for like
2240
01:24:10,875 --> 01:24:14,083
high ranked uh destiny accounts
2241
01:24:14,958 --> 01:24:18,166
um yes there are there's there will
2242
01:24:18,166 --> 01:24:20,208
always like in an online game there will
2243
01:24:20,208 --> 01:24:21,750
always be a like black
2244
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:23,708
market where you sell accounts yeah
2245
01:24:23,708 --> 01:24:24,875
despite it being you know
2246
01:24:24,875 --> 01:24:25,875
against terms of service
2247
01:24:26,333 --> 01:24:28,458
right yeah i mean that that's probably
2248
01:24:28,458 --> 01:24:31,541
the biggest incentive too like besides
2249
01:24:31,541 --> 01:24:32,541
the cheat makers like
2250
01:24:33,208 --> 01:24:34,791
people wanting high ranked accounts and
2251
01:24:34,791 --> 01:24:36,125
not wanting to put in the time for it
2252
01:24:36,958 --> 01:24:41,083
yes so essentially i mean every game has
2253
01:24:41,083 --> 01:24:43,000
it i mean unless it's a
2254
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,625
single player game where you
2255
01:24:44,625 --> 01:24:47,083
know it's not online then you have no
2256
01:24:47,083 --> 01:24:47,916
real advantage to getting
2257
01:24:47,916 --> 01:24:49,875
good good gear then like yeah but
2258
01:24:52,125 --> 01:24:54,583
it's gonna happen with any game period um
2259
01:24:54,583 --> 01:24:56,250
yeah it gets to a point
2260
01:24:56,250 --> 01:24:58,041
where it's really hard you know
2261
01:24:58,083 --> 01:25:01,500
it's also really hard to do make this
2262
01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:05,125
year's worst game this one
2263
01:25:05,125 --> 01:25:07,541
makes me extra sad too because
2264
01:25:07,541 --> 01:25:10,833
i actually kind of liked the demo this is
2265
01:25:10,833 --> 01:25:11,666
kind of funny because you
2266
01:25:11,666 --> 01:25:13,458
were mentioning another game
2267
01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:15,583
that was supposed to be those this year's
2268
01:25:15,583 --> 01:25:16,541
worst game of the year
2269
01:25:16,541 --> 01:25:18,416
and i was like we gotta wait
2270
01:25:18,416 --> 01:25:21,375
until the end and looks like we have a
2271
01:25:21,375 --> 01:25:22,791
new contender right well
2272
01:25:22,791 --> 01:25:23,916
it was the worst game of
2273
01:25:23,958 --> 01:25:27,625
the year until this came out so so so so
2274
01:25:27,625 --> 01:25:29,541
so so so so basically hunter
2275
01:25:29,541 --> 01:25:32,291
hunter hunt the ex is silent
2276
01:25:32,291 --> 01:25:36,000
by the way hunter hunter hunter net
2277
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,416
impact it's got the worst user
2278
01:25:38,416 --> 01:25:40,541
reviews of 2025 which is kind
2279
01:25:40,541 --> 01:25:43,791
of crazy to me because i mean it's not
2280
01:25:43,791 --> 01:25:45,125
last i recall it wasn't
2281
01:25:45,125 --> 01:25:46,500
super buggy when i tried the demo
2282
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:49,000
and i kind of liked it though it was kind
2283
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,250
of whack for a 2d fighter
2284
01:25:50,250 --> 01:25:53,666
to be honest but i am curious
2285
01:25:53,666 --> 01:25:54,916
as to why there's so many negative
2286
01:25:54,916 --> 01:26:00,291
reviews let's see what it says okay i
2287
01:26:00,291 --> 01:26:01,291
will just say for the
2288
01:26:01,291 --> 01:26:03,250
audio listeners it looks like this game
2289
01:26:03,250 --> 01:26:05,041
was named by microsoft
2290
01:26:05,041 --> 01:26:10,083
hunter x hunter nen x impact well
2291
01:26:10,250 --> 01:26:14,166
this very here's the thing too if you
2292
01:26:14,166 --> 01:26:16,875
type in hunter x hunter like that in
2293
01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:17,916
steam you can't find
2294
01:26:17,916 --> 01:26:20,750
the game no because they don't use like
2295
01:26:20,750 --> 01:26:22,000
an actual x they use
2296
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,250
like the multiplicative sign
2297
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:25,708
which is a different character that's
2298
01:26:25,708 --> 01:26:29,000
hilarious yeah yeah it's so
2299
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,000
stupid wow the anime is pretty
2300
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,000
good actually and the uh from under
2301
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,041
student among it but yeah i these types
2302
01:26:37,041 --> 01:26:37,750
of games i feel like
2303
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:39,666
are always not like the best so it's
2304
01:26:39,666 --> 01:26:40,875
shocking that this one's
2305
01:26:40,875 --> 01:26:42,041
even exceptionally worse
2306
01:26:42,708 --> 01:26:48,416
uh well i what did the steam review say i
2307
01:26:48,416 --> 01:26:50,958
know the steam reviews are uh
2308
01:26:52,791 --> 01:26:55,791
are generally a good indicator of uh so
2309
01:26:55,791 --> 01:26:57,416
at this time of writing
2310
01:26:57,416 --> 01:27:00,625
hunter hunter uh nen x impact has
2311
01:27:00,625 --> 01:27:03,916
a medic i'm sorry a metacritic user score
2312
01:27:03,916 --> 01:27:05,916
of just 1.6 this puts it below mine's eye which has a score
2313
01:27:05,958 --> 01:27:13,291
of 2.4 1.6 is impressively bad that is
2314
01:27:13,291 --> 01:27:15,833
really impressively bad hunter and i
2315
01:27:15,833 --> 01:27:17,041
doubt it's even like
2316
01:27:18,083 --> 01:27:21,583
um people just going and racing and
2317
01:27:21,583 --> 01:27:22,708
creating new accounts and
2318
01:27:22,708 --> 01:27:25,000
just trying to really uh barrage
2319
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,916
this with review bombs um i it's probably
2320
01:27:27,916 --> 01:27:29,083
just like legit that's the
2321
01:27:29,083 --> 01:27:30,208
score yeah so there are a
2322
01:27:30,250 --> 01:27:34,208
couple of cited uh issues uh the net the
2323
01:27:34,208 --> 01:27:35,666
netcode is bad and for a
2324
01:27:35,666 --> 01:27:37,208
fighting game that you want to
2325
01:27:37,208 --> 01:27:40,708
play with people that's kind of killer
2326
01:27:40,708 --> 01:27:43,041
the they say the visuals are bad too
2327
01:27:43,041 --> 01:27:43,958
which i mean i sort of
2328
01:27:43,958 --> 01:27:46,541
agree with it looks very low budget which
2329
01:27:46,541 --> 01:27:48,125
is fair but they're also
2330
01:27:48,125 --> 01:27:49,750
charging 60 bucks for it
2331
01:27:50,416 --> 01:27:52,791
let's see what else they say a bad roster
2332
01:27:52,791 --> 01:27:54,708
size not enough characters
2333
01:27:54,708 --> 01:27:55,583
for a 3v3 tag team fighter
2334
01:27:56,541 --> 01:28:01,500
let's see what else we got here i don't
2335
01:28:01,500 --> 01:28:02,125
know there's there's
2336
01:28:02,125 --> 01:28:03,500
there's a lot going on with it
2337
01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:05,666
it's also the controls in my opinion were
2338
01:28:05,666 --> 01:28:06,500
kind of whacked too
2339
01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:07,666
because they're not like standard
2340
01:28:07,666 --> 01:28:12,208
fighting controls like for the most part
2341
01:28:12,208 --> 01:28:13,250
they are but specials are
2342
01:28:13,250 --> 01:28:14,458
done with a single button and
2343
01:28:14,458 --> 01:28:16,916
on like a arcade stick with eight button
2344
01:28:16,916 --> 01:28:18,416
standard buttons it gets
2345
01:28:18,416 --> 01:28:19,458
kind of awkward to press unless
2346
01:28:19,458 --> 01:28:22,458
you remap some controls too but that's just a personal uh preference thing
2347
01:28:22,500 --> 01:28:27,916
oh wait look worst games of the year
2348
01:28:27,916 --> 01:28:30,458
we've got the last of us
2349
01:28:30,458 --> 01:28:32,958
complete there's no way that one
2350
01:28:32,958 --> 01:28:35,833
feels very i don't know i've heard things
2351
01:28:35,833 --> 01:28:38,000
just wait wait is this on
2352
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,041
which which system though
2353
01:28:39,416 --> 01:28:41,750
this is on the pc um well no i think
2354
01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:44,750
that's just a re-release for ps5 it you
2355
01:28:44,750 --> 01:28:45,625
know it's a remaster
2356
01:28:45,625 --> 01:28:47,666
no it's it's a compilation of the two games so i can see why people are upset about it
2357
01:28:48,333 --> 01:28:53,958
oh it's it's one of those yeah it's not
2358
01:28:53,958 --> 01:28:54,833
that the game's bad
2359
01:28:54,833 --> 01:28:55,750
it's just they're upset
2360
01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:57,958
it's the stalker legends of the zone
2361
01:28:57,958 --> 01:29:00,375
trilogy i don't know
2362
01:29:00,375 --> 01:29:01,791
much about why this is bad
2363
01:29:01,791 --> 01:29:05,250
the switch to welcome tour is pretty
2364
01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:07,041
selfish for you though
2365
01:29:08,375 --> 01:29:11,375
uh that's funny it's a tech demo you have
2366
01:29:11,375 --> 01:29:12,041
to pay for yeah and i'm surprised that's not lower
2367
01:29:12,708 --> 01:29:14,708
yeah and i was surprised that's not lower
2368
01:29:14,708 --> 01:29:16,375
i watched a video of
2369
01:29:16,375 --> 01:29:18,791
uh rerez uh playing it
2370
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:21,625
and it's just filled with a bunch of like
2371
01:29:21,625 --> 01:29:23,583
bullshit quizzes and
2372
01:29:23,583 --> 01:29:24,500
it's not even like the
2373
01:29:24,541 --> 01:29:26,625
it's not even like the fun kind where you
2374
01:29:26,625 --> 01:29:27,416
have to do something in
2375
01:29:27,416 --> 01:29:28,916
game it's like it's like a
2376
01:29:28,916 --> 01:29:31,000
multi it's like a fucking multiple choice
2377
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,250
question and you just select
2378
01:29:33,250 --> 01:29:36,125
abcd like the end of banger
2379
01:29:36,250 --> 01:29:40,833
kazooie yeah okay bring it back okay but
2380
01:29:40,833 --> 01:29:43,000
yeah like that let's see
2381
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,833
sif seven wait what sif seven
2382
01:29:46,875 --> 01:29:49,333
has i think some performance issues and
2383
01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:53,041
also some other issues that yeah i'm a
2384
01:29:53,041 --> 01:29:54,166
sif fan and i haven't
2385
01:29:54,166 --> 01:29:55,583
heard some good thing i haven't heard
2386
01:29:55,583 --> 01:29:58,291
many good things about sif seven oh no
2387
01:29:58,291 --> 01:29:59,958
sin duality the echo
2388
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,666
of ada i don't know anything about that
2389
01:30:01,666 --> 01:30:05,041
game uh destiny 2 the edge
2390
01:30:05,041 --> 01:30:06,750
of fate the newest dlc with
2391
01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:08,166
the newest raid with seven percent
2392
01:30:08,166 --> 01:30:12,500
cheaters i can see why it's a 4.2 and oh
2393
01:30:12,500 --> 01:30:14,208
no split gate this is
2394
01:30:14,791 --> 01:30:17,333
this is a whole other news topic we
2395
01:30:17,333 --> 01:30:19,458
haven't even covered um is
2396
01:30:19,458 --> 01:30:21,041
that they're doing mass layoffs
2397
01:30:21,041 --> 01:30:22,958
there because split gate 2 is doing
2398
01:30:22,958 --> 01:30:26,000
really bad well yeah it was
2399
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,083
supposed to be the game it was
2400
01:30:27,125 --> 01:30:29,125
supposed to be the game that made fps is
2401
01:30:29,125 --> 01:30:33,166
great again um it didn't
2402
01:30:33,166 --> 01:30:34,916
i'm honestly more offended by
2403
01:30:34,916 --> 01:30:36,208
the fact that they thought that was going
2404
01:30:36,208 --> 01:30:39,208
to be the game too to be
2405
01:30:39,208 --> 01:30:41,500
honest yeah i'm not a big fan
2406
01:30:41,500 --> 01:30:43,333
of split gate i just don't like the way
2407
01:30:43,333 --> 01:30:43,875
it's designed and
2408
01:30:43,875 --> 01:30:45,625
everything i don't have a lot of
2409
01:30:45,625 --> 01:30:49,583
faith in so not too surprised like just
2410
01:30:49,583 --> 01:30:50,750
just to show this off a
2411
01:30:50,750 --> 01:30:54,875
little bit but um if i had to be
2412
01:30:54,916 --> 01:30:57,333
honest man the main reason why split gate
2413
01:30:57,333 --> 01:30:58,875
one even like popped off
2414
01:30:58,875 --> 01:31:00,041
to begin with was because
2415
01:31:00,041 --> 01:31:03,375
it was basically halo on pc but then they
2416
01:31:03,375 --> 01:31:06,250
brought halo to pc so like
2417
01:31:06,250 --> 01:31:08,041
yeah i mean it has portals
2418
01:31:09,125 --> 01:31:11,416
but they could have done so much more
2419
01:31:11,416 --> 01:31:13,291
with the portals but
2420
01:31:13,291 --> 01:31:17,583
it's a bullshit okay yeah he
2421
01:31:18,166 --> 01:31:20,791
the ceo came out during the game awards
2422
01:31:20,791 --> 01:31:22,250
wasn't it with the mega
2423
01:31:22,250 --> 01:31:24,041
inspired we watched this yeah
2424
01:31:24,958 --> 01:31:27,250
live did you remember make fps great
2425
01:31:27,250 --> 01:31:29,000
again i think we all cringed
2426
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,041
simultaneously when we saw that
2427
01:31:31,041 --> 01:31:35,791
yeah it's and it's not like fps are like
2428
01:31:35,791 --> 01:31:37,958
some dying genre that like
2429
01:31:37,958 --> 01:31:39,958
no no it's them it's like
2430
01:31:40,083 --> 01:31:41,541
one of the most five other genres in the
2431
01:31:41,541 --> 01:31:43,000
world i think that's what
2432
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,375
i hated about it is that
2433
01:31:44,416 --> 01:31:47,958
yeah it's i play plenty of good fps like
2434
01:31:47,958 --> 01:31:50,791
yeah but none of them are split gate too
2435
01:31:51,041 --> 01:31:58,083
exactly i hear okay i used to play games
2436
01:31:58,083 --> 01:31:59,833
some pretty bizarre games
2437
01:31:59,833 --> 01:32:01,458
like ricochet if you don't
2438
01:32:01,458 --> 01:32:02,791
if you guys don't know what ricochet is
2439
01:32:02,791 --> 01:32:06,333
it was a half-life based
2440
01:32:06,333 --> 01:32:08,875
like valve made this like almost
2441
01:32:08,875 --> 01:32:11,291
the most bizarre game in the world but
2442
01:32:11,291 --> 01:32:12,666
you shoot discs as you jump
2443
01:32:12,666 --> 01:32:14,583
around on little pads and you
2444
01:32:14,583 --> 01:32:16,416
try to get head shots and stuff like that
2445
01:32:16,416 --> 01:32:18,083
um i played stuff like
2446
01:32:18,083 --> 01:32:19,416
that enjoyed it and split
2447
01:32:19,458 --> 01:32:21,500
gauges didn't look interesting to me yeah
2448
01:32:21,500 --> 01:32:23,625
i mean split gaze
2449
01:32:23,625 --> 01:32:25,291
basically just halo but worse and
2450
01:32:25,291 --> 01:32:27,500
portals well there's no personality to it
2451
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:28,291
all the characters looks
2452
01:32:28,291 --> 01:32:30,125
too similar it looks like tron
2453
01:32:30,125 --> 01:32:31,666
but even worse than that i don't know
2454
01:32:31,666 --> 01:32:32,541
yeah i don't think it's a
2455
01:32:32,541 --> 01:32:34,291
badly designed it's just it needed
2456
01:32:34,416 --> 01:32:37,583
more um flair to it in my opinion it
2457
01:32:37,583 --> 01:32:39,000
needed something to actually
2458
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,625
distinguish maybe characters
2459
01:32:40,791 --> 01:32:43,166
or make it feel different and i just
2460
01:32:43,166 --> 01:32:44,833
don't feel like it did that also one
2461
01:32:44,833 --> 01:32:46,333
thing too no one mentions
2462
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:48,791
this but the gun sound effects in split
2463
01:32:48,791 --> 01:32:51,791
game one are terrible like
2464
01:32:51,791 --> 01:32:53,625
they sound so weak and so like
2465
01:32:53,625 --> 01:32:56,041
pathetic and it and like i know it's a
2466
01:32:56,041 --> 01:32:57,083
weird thing to like harp
2467
01:32:57,083 --> 01:33:00,416
on but because like sound
2468
01:33:00,416 --> 01:33:02,625
effects are very important and i hate
2469
01:33:02,625 --> 01:33:05,750
when guns sound weak it
2470
01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:06,833
makes me not want to play an fps
2471
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:10,833
okay i i agree for the most part um if
2472
01:33:10,833 --> 01:33:11,875
you're if that's your
2473
01:33:11,875 --> 01:33:16,375
core um your your core
2474
01:33:17,208 --> 01:33:19,208
aspect of the game then you better make
2475
01:33:19,208 --> 01:33:23,500
sure it's really good um but
2476
01:33:23,500 --> 01:33:24,791
there it sounds like they're
2477
01:33:24,791 --> 01:33:26,708
shutting down the original split gate in
2478
01:33:26,708 --> 01:33:28,500
the effort to revamp and
2479
01:33:28,500 --> 01:33:29,291
they're also laying off
2480
01:33:29,291 --> 01:33:30,875
the developers probably related to that
2481
01:33:30,875 --> 01:33:32,833
one um so hopefully you you
2482
01:33:32,833 --> 01:33:33,833
went over to split gate too if
2483
01:33:33,875 --> 01:33:35,583
you were at the company or else you're
2484
01:33:35,583 --> 01:33:38,500
you're gone they um yeah
2485
01:33:38,500 --> 01:33:39,458
to rebound the game after
2486
01:33:39,458 --> 01:33:42,166
launching so they are going to kill their
2487
01:33:42,166 --> 01:33:43,250
old one and then they're going to
2488
01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:44,500
continue working on the
2489
01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:47,791
new one which don't get me wrong um i
2490
01:33:47,791 --> 01:33:49,916
give uh companies credit to
2491
01:33:49,916 --> 01:33:51,291
not drop a game right away
2492
01:33:51,291 --> 01:33:52,583
and try to improve it for the people that
2493
01:33:52,583 --> 01:33:54,833
bought it and for like i
2494
01:33:54,833 --> 01:33:56,583
think there's been a few games
2495
01:33:56,583 --> 01:33:58,625
that have done that in the in um the past
2496
01:33:58,625 --> 01:34:00,333
and it's paid off for them so
2497
01:34:00,333 --> 01:34:02,208
i'll give them credit to that
2498
01:34:02,541 --> 01:34:07,333
so we'll see where they go they're
2499
01:34:07,333 --> 01:34:08,583
killing it just in time
2500
01:34:08,583 --> 01:34:10,000
for stock killing games to
2501
01:34:11,041 --> 01:34:12,333
not well they're killing it before stock
2502
01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:13,208
killing games can save
2503
01:34:13,208 --> 01:34:16,875
split gate uh one yeah yeah it
2504
01:34:16,875 --> 01:34:18,083
depends on how they're killing it they
2505
01:34:18,083 --> 01:34:19,208
may just stop development
2506
01:34:19,208 --> 01:34:20,000
they might have been developing
2507
01:34:20,083 --> 01:34:23,291
it and so from what i understand the
2508
01:34:23,291 --> 01:34:24,416
plans are still up in the air
2509
01:34:24,416 --> 01:34:26,250
about what to do they say one
2510
01:34:26,250 --> 01:34:27,583
possibility is to make it playable
2511
01:34:27,583 --> 01:34:29,958
offline but like the game
2512
01:34:29,958 --> 01:34:31,000
doesn't have split screen right
2513
01:34:31,583 --> 01:34:33,791
it doesn't even have a single player so
2514
01:34:33,791 --> 01:34:34,500
like why are you playing
2515
01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:36,416
offline just like against bots
2516
01:34:37,583 --> 01:34:39,958
they should just release the netcode just
2517
01:34:39,958 --> 01:34:41,541
or just release the code to
2518
01:34:41,541 --> 01:34:43,500
be able to run the servers or
2519
01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:45,541
make it so that you can create your own
2520
01:34:45,541 --> 01:34:46,625
lobby on your computer like
2521
01:34:46,625 --> 01:34:47,708
there's a lot of different ways
2522
01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:50,208
yeah dude this is the reason the industry
2523
01:34:50,208 --> 01:34:51,625
doesn't want to have
2524
01:34:51,625 --> 01:34:52,875
stopped killing games is because
2525
01:34:53,208 --> 01:34:54,958
they can't do devious shit like this
2526
01:34:54,958 --> 01:34:56,041
where they shut down the old
2527
01:34:56,041 --> 01:34:57,500
one to force players to go to
2528
01:34:57,541 --> 01:34:59,583
the new one the new one yeah dude you
2529
01:34:59,583 --> 01:35:01,000
know what the modded split
2530
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,500
gate one would sound pretty sick
2531
01:35:02,500 --> 01:35:04,250
though they can fix the sound effects
2532
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:06,333
they can fix the fact that you can't
2533
01:35:06,333 --> 01:35:08,000
place portals on almost
2534
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,916
every one that really irks me is the fact
2535
01:35:10,916 --> 01:35:13,625
that portals it's a it's
2536
01:35:13,625 --> 01:35:15,000
a selling feature of split
2537
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,125
gate right like you can see through
2538
01:35:16,125 --> 01:35:17,750
portals shoot enemies through them go
2539
01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:19,250
through them etc etc and
2540
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:21,666
it's got like portal style uh momentum
2541
01:35:21,666 --> 01:35:23,666
too but here's the thing
2542
01:35:23,666 --> 01:35:25,500
though it's very limited in
2543
01:35:25,541 --> 01:35:28,250
where you can place them and like portal
2544
01:35:28,250 --> 01:35:30,333
one has places like portal has places
2545
01:35:30,333 --> 01:35:31,000
where you can't like
2546
01:35:31,375 --> 01:35:34,041
put portals right but most of the
2547
01:35:34,041 --> 01:35:35,750
environments except for certain like
2548
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:37,083
chambers tend to be like
2549
01:35:37,250 --> 01:35:38,958
littered in like white surfaces right
2550
01:35:38,958 --> 01:35:41,541
yeah yeah split gates has
2551
01:35:41,541 --> 01:35:43,333
split gate has the opposite uh
2552
01:35:43,375 --> 01:35:45,333
there are specific like areas that are
2553
01:35:45,333 --> 01:35:48,166
designated for portals which
2554
01:35:48,166 --> 01:35:50,041
is bullshit they should just
2555
01:35:50,083 --> 01:35:51,375
make it so that you can put portals in
2556
01:35:51,375 --> 01:35:52,916
most like almost every
2557
01:35:52,916 --> 01:35:56,000
surface yeah they definitely could
2558
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,500
make it more abundant but in certain
2559
01:35:58,500 --> 01:35:59,791
surfaces and stuff it'd be definitely
2560
01:35:59,791 --> 01:36:02,500
tricky i feel like um i
2561
01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:03,791
mean i could understand it if not working
2562
01:36:03,791 --> 01:36:07,291
on like on like ramps like
2563
01:36:07,291 --> 01:36:08,708
sloped ramps and all that stuff
2564
01:36:08,708 --> 01:36:11,250
i get or like or like rocks i could see
2565
01:36:11,250 --> 01:36:12,291
it i could see the night doing
2566
01:36:12,291 --> 01:36:13,833
rocks but like rocks would be
2567
01:36:13,875 --> 01:36:15,291
weird because then they'd have to
2568
01:36:15,291 --> 01:36:17,166
calculate trajectories of
2569
01:36:17,166 --> 01:36:20,125
very bent space time kind of
2570
01:36:20,125 --> 01:36:21,875
stuff or not space time but like space
2571
01:36:21,875 --> 01:36:24,875
it's weird right i i
2572
01:36:24,875 --> 01:36:27,333
understand that but like most like
2573
01:36:27,541 --> 01:36:29,208
buildings there were a lot of there were
2574
01:36:29,208 --> 01:36:30,083
a lot of maps with a lot
2575
01:36:30,083 --> 01:36:31,125
of like buildings and stuff
2576
01:36:31,500 --> 01:36:33,666
and most of the areas you couldn't like
2577
01:36:33,666 --> 01:36:36,166
portal onto which is
2578
01:36:36,166 --> 01:36:38,041
ridiculous i love the statement
2579
01:36:38,041 --> 01:36:40,583
ceo says he's made many many mistakes and
2580
01:36:40,583 --> 01:36:42,291
it's like and i'm sorry i
2581
01:36:42,291 --> 01:36:43,250
have to lay all you guys off
2582
01:36:43,375 --> 01:36:46,833
but you know i'll still be here he's a
2583
01:36:46,833 --> 01:36:51,333
true ceo man just man see
2584
01:36:51,333 --> 01:36:54,083
the v show joe ceo couldn't do
2585
01:36:54,083 --> 01:36:58,041
this because imagine if like imagine if
2586
01:36:58,041 --> 01:36:59,250
like everyone left uh
2587
01:36:59,250 --> 01:37:01,708
1047 just like v show joe and
2588
01:37:01,708 --> 01:37:03,166
they just made their own studio but
2589
01:37:03,166 --> 01:37:04,875
without that ceo that'd be
2590
01:37:04,875 --> 01:37:07,416
awesome the so here's the problem
2591
01:37:07,833 --> 01:37:09,916
um viewtubers and people like that they
2592
01:37:09,916 --> 01:37:11,000
have channels and stuff
2593
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,291
that they can continue making
2594
01:37:12,333 --> 01:37:15,333
money so if they cut ties they can get
2595
01:37:15,333 --> 01:37:16,541
that pumped into their
2596
01:37:16,541 --> 01:37:18,083
bank account and it's at least
2597
01:37:18,083 --> 01:37:21,083
something game developers don't have that
2598
01:37:21,083 --> 01:37:25,000
they cut ties they're out of a job if
2599
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:25,583
they don't have money
2600
01:37:25,750 --> 01:37:27,250
if they get laid off at least they have
2601
01:37:27,250 --> 01:37:28,000
severance and a lot of
2602
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,250
big companies do give decent
2603
01:37:29,250 --> 01:37:32,291
severances but and so that's why i think
2604
01:37:32,291 --> 01:37:33,708
some game companies have been able to
2605
01:37:33,708 --> 01:37:34,625
like indies have been
2606
01:37:34,625 --> 01:37:36,000
able to come up is because they had
2607
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,916
enough severance to try to make an indie
2608
01:37:37,916 --> 01:37:40,291
but just leave it then
2609
01:37:40,791 --> 01:37:42,375
yeah that's i guess how they're gonna
2610
01:37:42,375 --> 01:37:45,083
keep you in the system i understand i
2611
01:37:45,083 --> 01:37:45,958
don't i'm not sure what
2612
01:37:45,958 --> 01:37:49,041
to make of it now i'm uh 1047 games
2613
01:37:49,041 --> 01:37:50,000
really screwed the pitch
2614
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,541
when it comes to splitgate
2615
01:37:52,708 --> 01:37:55,125
i uh i just looked up the concurrent
2616
01:37:55,125 --> 01:37:57,000
users for splitgate
2617
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,541
current their 24-hour peak is 155
2618
01:38:00,250 --> 01:38:03,250
users and their average players over the
2619
01:38:03,250 --> 01:38:05,708
last like six to over the
2620
01:38:05,708 --> 01:38:08,666
last year has not exceeded 300
2621
01:38:10,708 --> 01:38:13,583
players well that's of splitgate 2 of
2622
01:38:13,583 --> 01:38:16,083
splitgate the first one and
2623
01:38:16,083 --> 01:38:17,666
but if you look at splitgate 2
2624
01:38:18,333 --> 01:38:20,750
oh no it's gonna be worse isn't it
2625
01:38:20,750 --> 01:38:23,500
splitgate 2 has a over the
2626
01:38:23,500 --> 01:38:25,291
last 24 hours they have 1400
2627
01:38:25,750 --> 01:38:29,750
concurrent players oh that's not good and
2628
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:32,833
they in june in june they had 13 000
2629
01:38:32,958 --> 01:38:38,625
so not very good that's really really bad
2630
01:38:38,625 --> 01:38:40,458
in fact that's that's so
2631
01:38:40,458 --> 01:38:41,291
bad i don't know if they're
2632
01:38:41,291 --> 01:38:42,541
going to be coming back but we'll see
2633
01:38:42,541 --> 01:38:46,166
yeah dude forget man forget
2634
01:38:46,166 --> 01:38:48,166
splitgate one and two i doubt
2635
01:38:48,166 --> 01:38:49,541
the company is going to survive at this
2636
01:38:49,541 --> 01:38:54,041
rate yeah no i don't i don't know if i
2637
01:38:54,041 --> 01:38:54,583
was them i would have
2638
01:38:54,583 --> 01:38:58,500
created a whole new uh game ip what about
2639
01:38:58,500 --> 01:39:00,375
sometimes what about something inspired
2640
01:39:00,375 --> 01:39:01,750
by halo but like not
2641
01:39:02,083 --> 01:39:05,458
but it's not it's inspired by it but it's
2642
01:39:05,458 --> 01:39:06,458
not even like i don't
2643
01:39:06,458 --> 01:39:08,000
know i don't like portals
2644
01:39:09,291 --> 01:39:12,458
i don't know it doesn't look unique
2645
01:39:12,458 --> 01:39:14,708
enough it really it really
2646
01:39:14,708 --> 01:39:17,500
doesn't feel like it has its own
2647
01:39:18,625 --> 01:39:21,375
it's not genre defying yet and so maybe
2648
01:39:21,375 --> 01:39:21,833
they could have worked
2649
01:39:21,833 --> 01:39:23,291
on the first one and then
2650
01:39:23,916 --> 01:39:26,250
created their own ip and then morphed the
2651
01:39:26,250 --> 01:39:27,750
first one into something more but
2652
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:32,375
i think the first thing that really like
2653
01:39:32,375 --> 01:39:33,333
turned people off was
2654
01:39:33,333 --> 01:39:34,750
splitgate 2 when i was first in that
2655
01:39:34,750 --> 01:39:36,166
because i remember splitgate 1 was fairly
2656
01:39:36,166 --> 01:39:38,500
popular uh sort of yeah but
2657
01:39:38,500 --> 01:39:39,791
splitgate 2 i think what turned
2658
01:39:39,791 --> 01:39:42,333
people off the second one was that they
2659
01:39:42,333 --> 01:39:43,500
announced that they were
2660
01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:46,708
getting like classes in classes
2661
01:39:46,708 --> 01:39:49,000
in the halo like it was just a bad idea
2662
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,416
period in my opinion that's why you
2663
01:39:52,416 --> 01:39:53,333
change just change the ip
2664
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,833
it could be like it's not gonna be
2665
01:39:55,833 --> 01:39:56,833
splitgate 2 we're just
2666
01:39:56,833 --> 01:39:57,750
gonna call it something else
2667
01:39:58,250 --> 01:39:59,625
and then you can have classes and you're
2668
01:39:59,625 --> 01:40:01,000
not gonna get people upset
2669
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,000
team let's see team splitgate 2
2670
01:40:05,916 --> 01:40:08,000
man they could just make it like team
2671
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,458
fortress i don't know man but
2672
01:40:11,458 --> 01:40:13,250
um i don't know how you could
2673
01:40:13,250 --> 01:40:15,000
have say i don't know how you could have
2674
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,750
saved uh splitgate to be
2675
01:40:16,750 --> 01:40:17,666
honest there are too many
2676
01:40:17,666 --> 01:40:19,791
games out there nowadays and a lot of
2677
01:40:19,791 --> 01:40:20,958
people are just sticking to
2678
01:40:20,958 --> 01:40:23,041
one game but but a game that's
2679
01:40:23,125 --> 01:40:25,250
like already well established right
2680
01:40:25,250 --> 01:40:27,166
that's why that's why
2681
01:40:27,166 --> 01:40:28,625
splitgate probably should have just
2682
01:40:28,625 --> 01:40:31,458
kept on doing updates for splitgate and
2683
01:40:31,458 --> 01:40:33,000
not like 1047 should
2684
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:33,875
have been doing updates for
2685
01:40:34,166 --> 01:40:35,958
splitgate that is not do a second one and
2686
01:40:35,958 --> 01:40:39,375
do a um a different ip to
2687
01:40:39,375 --> 01:40:41,958
try to continue you know the
2688
01:40:41,958 --> 01:40:43,666
company i don't think it was smart to do
2689
01:40:43,666 --> 01:40:45,541
a splitgate 2 i just it feels
2690
01:40:45,541 --> 01:40:47,083
too similar and there was like
2691
01:40:47,125 --> 01:40:52,000
why at that point um money yeah speaking
2692
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,958
of money microsoft is
2693
01:40:53,958 --> 01:40:55,541
saying we want more of it
2694
01:40:55,833 --> 01:41:01,500
by selling things for cheaper um so this
2695
01:41:01,500 --> 01:41:03,041
is a really interesting
2696
01:41:03,041 --> 01:41:04,333
story actually and i'm hoping
2697
01:41:04,333 --> 01:41:05,666
it's indicative of how we're going to be
2698
01:41:05,666 --> 01:41:06,791
going from here on out
2699
01:41:06,791 --> 01:41:07,916
with some of these titles but
2700
01:41:07,916 --> 01:41:10,041
we'll see you never know microsoft backs
2701
01:41:10,041 --> 01:41:13,916
away from 80 games that's what that's
2702
01:41:13,916 --> 01:41:14,541
what this title says
2703
01:41:14,666 --> 01:41:17,416
and drops the outer world 2 prize to 70
2704
01:41:17,416 --> 01:41:18,958
in line with current market
2705
01:41:18,958 --> 01:41:23,500
conditions now um outer world
2706
01:41:23,583 --> 01:41:26,541
2 doesn't have the best like one of the
2707
01:41:26,541 --> 01:41:27,625
speculations on all this is
2708
01:41:27,625 --> 01:41:30,000
that it does not have the best
2709
01:41:30,333 --> 01:41:33,791
pre-order stat stats right now it just
2710
01:41:33,791 --> 01:41:34,583
doesn't have the best
2711
01:41:34,583 --> 01:41:36,375
numbers and so that's why
2712
01:41:36,958 --> 01:41:38,708
they're backing down which makes sense
2713
01:41:38,708 --> 01:41:41,041
okay that's but there's
2714
01:41:41,041 --> 01:41:42,041
also another thing it's
2715
01:41:42,083 --> 01:41:45,041
gonna be day one game pass so you're
2716
01:41:45,041 --> 01:41:47,416
gonna have drastically lower
2717
01:41:47,416 --> 01:41:50,000
reservations so these companies
2718
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,291
need to really gotta take that into
2719
01:41:53,291 --> 01:41:55,875
account i feel like microsoft shoots them
2720
01:41:55,875 --> 01:41:56,625
themselves in the foot
2721
01:41:56,625 --> 01:41:59,041
every time dude this is performing so bad
2722
01:41:59,041 --> 01:42:00,791
why is it it couldn't be us
2723
01:42:00,791 --> 01:42:02,208
it's gotta be the developers
2724
01:42:02,250 --> 01:42:04,333
or the price or something it's gotta be
2725
01:42:04,333 --> 01:42:06,625
something else it can't be us yeah
2726
01:42:06,625 --> 01:42:09,083
microsoft cites the price
2727
01:42:09,125 --> 01:42:12,500
drop because like they cite the current
2728
01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:13,583
market conditions for the
2729
01:42:13,583 --> 01:42:15,458
price drop guess who made the
2730
01:42:15,458 --> 01:42:19,333
current market so hostile to buying games
2731
01:42:19,333 --> 01:42:21,416
at full price game pass
2732
01:42:21,416 --> 01:42:25,208
microsoft did man man when you
2733
01:42:25,208 --> 01:42:26,375
guys say something this we're gonna get
2734
01:42:26,375 --> 01:42:29,208
some more comments accusing us of like
2735
01:42:29,208 --> 01:42:31,375
anti xbox bias which
2736
01:42:31,375 --> 01:42:33,375
is by the way totally true that's bt
2737
01:42:33,375 --> 01:42:34,916
maryk he likes them he i
2738
01:42:34,916 --> 01:42:35,583
talked to him the other day
2739
01:42:36,250 --> 01:42:39,083
he likes the mess with us so i know i
2740
01:42:39,083 --> 01:42:41,708
know so i don't think anyone
2741
01:42:41,708 --> 01:42:43,125
actually i don't i don't think
2742
01:42:43,125 --> 01:42:44,875
anybody that actually disliked our take
2743
01:42:44,875 --> 01:42:47,625
on microsoft would keep watching us yeah
2744
01:42:47,625 --> 01:42:50,708
no i yeah so this is
2745
01:42:50,708 --> 01:42:52,125
a fun little quote from them from
2746
01:42:52,125 --> 01:42:55,000
obsidian we at the earth directorate have
2747
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:56,333
worked with redacted
2748
01:42:56,625 --> 01:42:58,875
to revise the price of outer worlds too
2749
01:42:58,875 --> 01:43:01,958
so it if you've never played
2750
01:43:01,958 --> 01:43:02,958
outer worlds one which i don't
2751
01:43:02,958 --> 01:43:04,083
think either of you guys have played
2752
01:43:04,083 --> 01:43:05,500
right i've played the outer
2753
01:43:05,500 --> 01:43:07,250
world one i did not care for it
2754
01:43:07,250 --> 01:43:11,916
at all i i have not i loved outer worlds
2755
01:43:11,916 --> 01:43:14,125
one it was it was great i love it but i
2756
01:43:14,125 --> 01:43:15,500
also like obsidian's
2757
01:43:15,500 --> 01:43:19,291
um fallout new vegas a lot so and i like
2758
01:43:19,291 --> 01:43:21,625
the take they go a little too
2759
01:43:21,625 --> 01:43:23,750
it's too hamper so it's just
2760
01:43:23,833 --> 01:43:27,041
a little too on the point with it being
2761
01:43:27,041 --> 01:43:28,125
an anti-capitalistic
2762
01:43:28,125 --> 01:43:29,250
kind of game because that's
2763
01:43:29,291 --> 01:43:31,083
really because it's an over it's a
2764
01:43:31,083 --> 01:43:32,250
capitalistic dystopia
2765
01:43:32,250 --> 01:43:34,458
essentially is what this is is what
2766
01:43:34,791 --> 01:43:36,750
outer world's one is everything is based
2767
01:43:36,750 --> 01:43:38,041
on capitalism buying
2768
01:43:38,041 --> 01:43:41,875
money it is pure greed and
2769
01:43:41,875 --> 01:43:43,625
they like to make fun of it it's it's fun
2770
01:43:43,625 --> 01:43:45,166
but they go a little like too far
2771
01:43:45,166 --> 01:43:46,000
sometimes where i'm like
2772
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,666
okay this isn't as funny as i was hoping
2773
01:43:47,666 --> 01:43:48,625
you get it to have some
2774
01:43:48,625 --> 01:43:51,958
veiled uh humor um but this is
2775
01:43:51,958 --> 01:43:54,875
still a fun you know we with the earth
2776
01:43:54,875 --> 01:43:56,500
director you know kind of thing we've
2777
01:43:56,500 --> 01:43:57,291
revised the price for
2778
01:43:57,750 --> 01:44:00,833
it's just a fun take on this um and i can
2779
01:44:00,833 --> 01:44:02,166
guarantee obsidian probably
2780
01:44:02,166 --> 01:44:03,666
did not want to have this be $80
2781
01:44:04,875 --> 01:44:06,583
they probably wanted to be cheaper it was
2782
01:44:06,583 --> 01:44:07,708
probably microsoft that's
2783
01:44:07,708 --> 01:44:09,375
like all the games have to be
2784
01:44:09,375 --> 01:44:11,583
really expensive because you know
2785
01:44:11,583 --> 01:44:13,291
nintendo that's what's gonna sell
2786
01:44:13,291 --> 01:44:15,708
nintendo did it why can't we do
2787
01:44:15,708 --> 01:44:19,083
it right nintendo has control over their
2788
01:44:19,083 --> 01:44:20,041
whole platform and
2789
01:44:20,041 --> 01:44:22,041
market so they can do it and
2790
01:44:23,041 --> 01:44:24,625
guess what they're gonna probably still
2791
01:44:24,625 --> 01:44:25,666
lose themselves from it
2792
01:44:25,666 --> 01:44:27,875
uh with outer worlds though
2793
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,125
outer worlds one is a very cult classic
2794
01:44:30,125 --> 01:44:32,333
it's a very specific to a
2795
01:44:32,333 --> 01:44:35,208
set of like dead space in some
2796
01:44:35,208 --> 01:44:38,083
ways it has its following and you can
2797
01:44:38,083 --> 01:44:39,458
make a lot of money off of
2798
01:44:39,458 --> 01:44:41,541
this following but if you try to
2799
01:44:42,083 --> 01:44:44,625
play it up more than it is you're not
2800
01:44:44,625 --> 01:44:46,500
going to make that money back so them
2801
01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:47,083
saying yeah this is an
2802
01:44:47,208 --> 01:44:49,458
$80 game is kind of ridiculous outer
2803
01:44:49,458 --> 01:44:51,000
worlds one itself was
2804
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,916
probably a $50 i would consider it
2805
01:44:52,916 --> 01:44:55,250
more of a $50 game like a $49.99 kind of
2806
01:44:55,250 --> 01:44:57,791
thing and uh outer worlds two
2807
01:44:57,791 --> 01:44:59,208
is probably really not worth
2808
01:44:59,208 --> 01:45:01,291
70 it's probably worth more like 60 or 50
2809
01:45:01,291 --> 01:45:02,958
um but i haven't played it
2810
01:45:02,958 --> 01:45:05,208
yet um it's just basing it off
2811
01:45:05,208 --> 01:45:10,291
outer worlds one so hopefully this is
2812
01:45:10,291 --> 01:45:12,458
indicative of us not having
2813
01:45:12,458 --> 01:45:15,500
$80 games but staying at 60 for
2814
01:45:15,541 --> 01:45:20,166
a while um i think this is also gonna be
2815
01:45:20,166 --> 01:45:23,041
the split between indie
2816
01:45:23,041 --> 01:45:25,458
double a and triple a i think
2817
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:28,250
triple a is going to be coming or maybe
2818
01:45:28,250 --> 01:45:29,833
even quadruple a are just
2819
01:45:29,833 --> 01:45:30,666
going to start going like
2820
01:45:30,666 --> 01:45:33,583
for 80 maybe 100 like grand theft auto we
2821
01:45:33,583 --> 01:45:34,250
can start seeing companies
2822
01:45:34,250 --> 01:45:35,250
trying to get away because
2823
01:45:35,250 --> 01:45:37,666
if they own the market for like call of
2824
01:45:37,666 --> 01:45:39,000
duty or grand theft auto
2825
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,291
they can charge whatever they
2826
01:45:40,291 --> 01:45:42,083
want and their fan base if it's big
2827
01:45:42,083 --> 01:45:43,166
enough we'll pay for it and they could
2828
01:45:43,166 --> 01:45:44,041
probably make more money
2829
01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:46,125
so we're probably gonna see some trickery
2830
01:45:46,125 --> 01:45:48,250
from game companies going
2831
01:45:48,250 --> 01:45:50,500
forward but hopefully this
2832
01:45:50,500 --> 01:45:52,083
teaches microsoft a little bit of lesson
2833
01:45:52,083 --> 01:45:54,875
and we don't have that huge price
2834
01:45:54,875 --> 01:45:56,000
increase for a lot of
2835
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:01,666
their games so i don't know what do you
2836
01:46:01,666 --> 01:46:04,333
get what do you guys think
2837
01:46:04,333 --> 01:46:06,208
of this whole uh ordeal do you
2838
01:46:06,208 --> 01:46:08,166
think we're gonna get some of these
2839
01:46:08,166 --> 01:46:09,416
companies backing off more
2840
01:46:09,416 --> 01:46:12,291
or we'll just have to see i
2841
01:46:12,333 --> 01:46:14,666
think we'll see i mean the temptation for
2842
01:46:14,666 --> 01:46:17,416
these companies is just pure
2843
01:46:17,416 --> 01:46:19,000
greed and they want as much
2844
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,750
money as they possibly can and most of
2845
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:24,458
them don't think critically enough to
2846
01:46:24,458 --> 01:46:25,750
realize they might sell
2847
01:46:25,833 --> 01:46:29,000
more and make more at a lower price point
2848
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,833
yep i don't know man the
2849
01:46:30,833 --> 01:46:32,416
outer wilds two seems like a
2850
01:46:32,791 --> 01:46:35,208
maybe buy it later on sale sort of game
2851
01:46:35,208 --> 01:46:39,000
for me yeah i'm offended by that but okay
2852
01:46:39,583 --> 01:46:42,708
no it is definitely one of those games
2853
01:46:42,708 --> 01:46:44,541
outer worlds too i that's
2854
01:46:44,541 --> 01:46:45,625
my point is that it's very
2855
01:46:46,166 --> 01:46:50,333
it has its following and it's not like a
2856
01:46:50,333 --> 01:46:51,416
call of duty following but
2857
01:46:51,416 --> 01:46:52,541
you can make lots of money off
2858
01:46:52,541 --> 01:46:54,833
this title if you play it right just
2859
01:46:54,833 --> 01:46:57,208
don't fuck your uh the player
2860
01:46:57,208 --> 01:46:58,666
is over is kind of one of the
2861
01:46:58,666 --> 01:47:00,125
things you know make it reasonable
2862
01:47:00,125 --> 01:47:02,250
because even for like someone like me i'm
2863
01:47:02,250 --> 01:47:03,291
not gonna pay $80 for
2864
01:47:03,291 --> 01:47:05,583
this i'm gonna wait for it well i might
2865
01:47:05,583 --> 01:47:06,541
go find it on a different
2866
01:47:06,541 --> 01:47:08,791
platform like um fanatical or
2867
01:47:08,791 --> 01:47:10,250
something like that because like
2868
01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:11,375
especially when they're this
2869
01:47:11,375 --> 01:47:12,708
high a price they usually are
2870
01:47:12,708 --> 01:47:15,416
discounted there but or i'll wait for a
2871
01:47:15,416 --> 01:47:17,000
price decrease because i
2872
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,916
just i it'd have to be a
2873
01:47:19,916 --> 01:47:21,458
star craft even though as much as i like
2874
01:47:21,458 --> 01:47:22,708
outer worlds one it has to
2875
01:47:22,708 --> 01:47:23,666
be like a star craft kind
2876
01:47:23,666 --> 01:47:27,708
of game for me to you pay whatever price
2877
01:47:27,708 --> 01:47:28,666
there's only a couple of
2878
01:47:28,666 --> 01:47:29,541
different games out there that
2879
01:47:29,541 --> 01:47:31,916
i'd pay a hundred two hundred dollars for
2880
01:47:31,916 --> 01:47:35,000
and this is not it would
2881
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:35,666
you pay a hundred two dollars
2882
01:47:35,666 --> 01:47:40,000
for gta6 no but gta6 is not my type of
2883
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,750
game that being said for the
2884
01:47:42,750 --> 01:47:44,291
graphical part of it i might
2885
01:47:44,291 --> 01:47:47,125
because i do like to analyze graphics so
2886
01:47:47,125 --> 01:47:48,041
i don't know maybe for
2887
01:47:48,041 --> 01:47:49,333
benchmarking i might but that'd be
2888
01:47:49,333 --> 01:47:53,791
a more of a business kind of thing so
2889
01:47:53,791 --> 01:48:02,000
we'll see we'll see um i just i don't
2890
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:03,833
know like inflation's
2891
01:48:03,875 --> 01:48:06,583
a thing but we also have more players
2892
01:48:06,583 --> 01:48:09,666
than ever that are uh like
2893
01:48:09,666 --> 01:48:11,250
more gamers than ever that are
2894
01:48:11,250 --> 01:48:14,166
buying stuff and so we don't really need
2895
01:48:14,166 --> 01:48:15,166
to raise the price on things
2896
01:48:15,166 --> 01:48:16,125
they're already making more
2897
01:48:16,125 --> 01:48:20,791
money they just want to do it out of you
2898
01:48:20,791 --> 01:48:22,333
know pure greed and i think
2899
01:48:22,333 --> 01:48:23,583
at the end of the day too is
2900
01:48:23,583 --> 01:48:24,750
the cost of living has gone up
2901
01:48:24,750 --> 01:48:28,041
drastically for a lot of uh gamers like
2902
01:48:28,041 --> 01:48:29,583
lower class uh i shouldn't
2903
01:48:29,625 --> 01:48:31,875
say lower class but like uh lower income
2904
01:48:31,875 --> 01:48:34,375
that's it lower income middle
2905
01:48:34,375 --> 01:48:37,416
income kind of uh gamers are
2906
01:48:37,666 --> 01:48:41,041
really feeling a tight budget and so if
2907
01:48:41,041 --> 01:48:42,375
you're raising this also
2908
01:48:42,375 --> 01:48:43,333
like their entertainment to
2909
01:48:43,333 --> 01:48:45,375
eighty dollars they're gonna go for well
2910
01:48:45,375 --> 01:48:46,166
and it's a competitive
2911
01:48:46,166 --> 01:48:47,500
market they're gonna go for indies
2912
01:48:47,500 --> 01:48:51,208
and double a titles like a lot of like me
2913
01:48:51,208 --> 01:48:52,291
i'm not gonna go for the
2914
01:48:52,291 --> 01:48:54,208
eighty dollars if i if i have
2915
01:48:54,333 --> 01:48:56,000
eighty dollars i'm gonna probably end up
2916
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,500
buying one or two indy or
2917
01:48:58,500 --> 01:48:59,625
double a because i'm gonna
2918
01:48:59,833 --> 01:49:01,291
find them and i'm gonna enjoy them
2919
01:49:01,291 --> 01:49:02,041
there's plenty out
2920
01:49:02,041 --> 01:49:04,708
there that i like so yeah
2921
01:49:07,625 --> 01:49:09,750
i'll get off my soapbox on that but yeah
2922
01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:12,750
it's i i do like their marketing though
2923
01:49:12,750 --> 01:49:15,000
obsidian coming out it's like doing the
2924
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:16,000
little whistle it's like
2925
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:16,958
you didn't see anything it's
2926
01:49:16,958 --> 01:49:22,208
now 70 yeah i like that it's facing yeah
2927
01:49:22,208 --> 01:49:23,500
and that's it's
2928
01:49:23,500 --> 01:49:25,791
definitely obsidian the i like them
2929
01:49:25,791 --> 01:49:27,875
as a studio and i really hope that outer
2930
01:49:27,875 --> 01:49:29,375
world 2 does well and that microsoft
2931
01:49:29,375 --> 01:49:30,541
didn't fuck them over
2932
01:49:30,958 --> 01:49:34,375
even having it be 70 i'm i'm just worried
2933
01:49:34,375 --> 01:49:35,250
that regardless of
2934
01:49:35,250 --> 01:49:37,083
what's gonna of how it sells
2935
01:49:37,125 --> 01:49:41,458
microsoft microsoft might uh i don't know
2936
01:49:41,458 --> 01:49:42,500
might lay them off i mean
2937
01:49:42,500 --> 01:49:43,875
that's been the trend right i
2938
01:49:43,958 --> 01:49:45,333
mean i guess it doesn't really matter if
2939
01:49:45,333 --> 01:49:46,541
you make a good or bad game
2940
01:49:46,541 --> 01:49:51,166
if you don't make a what uh it
2941
01:49:51,166 --> 01:49:53,375
depends on how much you make it's your
2942
01:49:53,375 --> 01:49:55,250
value is all based on like
2943
01:49:55,250 --> 01:49:56,833
what they budgeted for you
2944
01:49:57,375 --> 01:49:58,875
and some of the stuff that's outside of
2945
01:49:58,875 --> 01:49:59,916
what your budget is like
2946
01:49:59,916 --> 01:50:01,833
marketing and then if you don't
2947
01:50:01,833 --> 01:50:03,625
reach to what they want you to even
2948
01:50:03,625 --> 01:50:04,541
though they might have been super
2949
01:50:04,541 --> 01:50:05,791
profitable they'll destroy
2950
01:50:05,791 --> 01:50:08,166
you i microsoft might be different than
2951
01:50:08,166 --> 01:50:11,041
ea but you know that's what
2952
01:50:11,041 --> 01:50:12,458
ea did to my favorite stuff so
2953
01:50:14,916 --> 01:50:18,833
well speaking of um have you guys seen
2954
01:50:18,833 --> 01:50:20,833
the new leak uh like
2955
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:23,625
Lenovo Legion go to like there's some new
2956
01:50:23,625 --> 01:50:26,958
leaked stuff no i have not seen that
2957
01:50:29,458 --> 01:50:33,500
so better grips OLED screen and more
2958
01:50:33,500 --> 01:50:35,291
memory uh which we already
2959
01:50:35,291 --> 01:50:36,291
kind of knew but there's even
2960
01:50:36,333 --> 01:50:39,208
more to it uh if you want to like oh
2961
01:50:39,208 --> 01:50:40,666
they're playing genshin in
2962
01:50:40,666 --> 01:50:43,666
the leak okay first off this
2963
01:50:43,666 --> 01:50:47,416
is a this is a Chinese guy so they're
2964
01:50:47,416 --> 01:50:49,875
Chinese you can't blame them i thought
2965
01:50:49,875 --> 01:50:50,291
that would have picked
2966
01:50:50,291 --> 01:50:51,791
like a more graphically demanding game
2967
01:50:51,791 --> 01:50:56,625
like uh like uh shit uh
2968
01:50:56,625 --> 01:50:58,666
cyberpond so from my understanding
2969
01:50:58,958 --> 01:51:00,833
i didn't realize this and we'll see but
2970
01:51:00,833 --> 01:51:02,500
this uh more leaked specs
2971
01:51:02,500 --> 01:51:04,291
indicate that this is going to be
2972
01:51:04,666 --> 01:51:10,791
a z2 processor not a z2 extreme i mean
2973
01:51:10,791 --> 01:51:12,500
which is interesting but then i saw
2974
01:51:12,500 --> 01:51:13,583
benchmarks that showed
2975
01:51:13,833 --> 01:51:16,166
the difference between z1 extreme and z2
2976
01:51:16,166 --> 01:51:17,625
extreme and they were only
2977
01:51:17,625 --> 01:51:18,750
like some of the games are only
2978
01:51:18,750 --> 01:51:22,500
like five fps different so i don't know
2979
01:51:22,500 --> 01:51:23,708
if the z2 extreme is going to
2980
01:51:23,708 --> 01:51:25,666
be actually be that decent of a
2981
01:51:26,625 --> 01:51:31,791
upgrade but i am curious about uh the z2
2982
01:51:31,791 --> 01:51:33,208
standard because at last we
2983
01:51:33,208 --> 01:51:35,041
recall um if you remember the
2984
01:51:35,041 --> 01:51:37,875
original rog ally released with a z1 skew
2985
01:51:37,875 --> 01:51:39,958
and it was generally agreed
2986
01:51:39,958 --> 01:51:41,500
that the z1 was not worth the
2987
01:51:41,500 --> 01:51:44,416
one it wasn't worth the money yeah
2988
01:51:44,416 --> 01:51:47,000
exactly but if the z2 is
2989
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,000
more power efficient and is as
2990
01:51:49,208 --> 01:51:51,500
performing as a z1 extreme then that
2991
01:51:51,500 --> 01:51:54,500
might be the best of both worlds
2992
01:51:54,500 --> 01:51:57,458
potentially huh maybe oh
2993
01:51:57,833 --> 01:51:59,500
but they were there might or
2994
01:51:59,500 --> 01:52:01,041
they maybe they'll release uh
2995
01:52:02,375 --> 01:52:04,958
yeah no this this one is just a z2 not
2996
01:52:04,958 --> 01:52:06,958
the z2 extreme yeah and
2997
01:52:06,958 --> 01:52:09,250
so what what's on the other
2998
01:52:09,250 --> 01:52:10,791
specs though that's what i want to figure
2999
01:52:10,791 --> 01:52:12,708
out because i need see
3000
01:52:12,708 --> 01:52:13,833
if they have a double list
3001
01:52:13,875 --> 01:52:18,416
i thought they had the list no maybe not
3002
01:52:18,416 --> 01:52:20,833
it's the list is in the video but i
3003
01:52:20,833 --> 01:52:21,666
thought they also had the
3004
01:52:23,208 --> 01:52:25,625
yeah i mean it looks like a straight
3005
01:52:25,625 --> 01:52:26,833
upgrade it's got oled
3006
01:52:26,833 --> 01:52:28,458
and variable refresh rate
3007
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,583
yes it does it's got vr it's got oled
3008
01:52:31,583 --> 01:52:34,541
it's 144 hertz still it is
3009
01:52:34,541 --> 01:52:36,583
the controller and everything is
3010
01:52:37,208 --> 01:52:40,000
um much better it's it's uh backwards
3011
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:40,916
compatible with the original
3012
01:52:40,916 --> 01:52:42,083
so if you buy the controllers
3013
01:52:42,166 --> 01:52:43,416
on their own they will work on the
3014
01:52:43,416 --> 01:52:44,416
previous version which i
3015
01:52:44,416 --> 01:52:46,708
will give lenovo credit there
3016
01:52:46,958 --> 01:52:48,875
i like backwards compatibility as much as
3017
01:52:48,875 --> 01:52:52,583
you can keep it um so yeah
3018
01:52:52,583 --> 01:52:54,625
it's looking good it does look
3019
01:52:54,625 --> 01:52:57,291
good but i am a little worried about the
3020
01:52:57,291 --> 01:53:00,000
z2 because i want to buy
3021
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,583
this for my um day-to-day
3022
01:53:02,583 --> 01:53:04,750
driver and use an egpu with it but
3023
01:53:04,750 --> 01:53:05,708
because i want a bigger
3024
01:53:05,708 --> 01:53:09,500
screen if that z2 extreme or the z2
3025
01:53:09,541 --> 01:53:13,041
processor does not have the same like if
3026
01:53:13,041 --> 01:53:17,125
it truly is like um not
3027
01:53:17,125 --> 01:53:19,083
a little bit better or
3028
01:53:19,458 --> 01:53:22,000
let's say about the same as z1 extreme
3029
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,125
then cool if it if z2 extreme
3030
01:53:25,125 --> 01:53:26,416
could have been much better i
3031
01:53:26,416 --> 01:53:28,708
would i'm not gonna be happy because i'm
3032
01:53:28,708 --> 01:53:29,583
gonna want every core
3033
01:53:29,583 --> 01:53:30,708
possible because i'm gonna be
3034
01:53:30,958 --> 01:53:32,666
like i said using the egpu with this
3035
01:53:32,666 --> 01:53:34,500
thing i'm gonna really try
3036
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:37,166
to push this um beyond being
3037
01:53:37,458 --> 01:53:40,541
portable is the z2 extreme not based on
3038
01:53:40,541 --> 01:53:41,958
the uh strix halo
3039
01:53:41,958 --> 01:53:43,916
processors that have been like making
3040
01:53:43,916 --> 01:53:47,333
headways like that's my question too
3041
01:53:47,333 --> 01:53:48,291
because i thought maybe that
3042
01:53:48,291 --> 01:53:49,625
was based on that and like if
3043
01:53:49,625 --> 01:53:53,083
you look at the uh the rog strix not rg6
3044
01:53:53,083 --> 01:53:55,666
sorry the uh amd like strix halo like
3045
01:53:55,666 --> 01:53:57,000
devices like with this
3046
01:53:57,375 --> 01:54:00,500
z13 flow or even gardener's like a mini
3047
01:54:00,500 --> 01:54:02,666
pc he has a device uh with
3048
01:54:02,666 --> 01:54:04,208
the strix with the strix halo
3049
01:54:04,250 --> 01:54:06,458
right that's substantially better than
3050
01:54:06,458 --> 01:54:10,458
like the z1 and like the prior like apu
3051
01:54:10,458 --> 01:54:11,666
that that's based on
3052
01:54:13,375 --> 01:54:17,125
yeah uh i don't know what do you think
3053
01:54:17,125 --> 01:54:19,750
gardener on that i i mean
3054
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:22,125
yeah i i don't know when it comes
3055
01:54:22,125 --> 01:54:24,416
to this device but i like the strix halo
3056
01:54:24,416 --> 01:54:28,125
definitely has uh like significant
3057
01:54:28,125 --> 01:54:29,666
improvements over like a
3058
01:54:29,708 --> 01:54:35,000
built-in apu um yeah yeah and not to
3059
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:36,958
mention uh you know the fox actually did
3060
01:54:36,958 --> 01:54:38,958
a video on the gpd1 5
3061
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:43,666
which has the uh strix halo apu in it
3062
01:54:43,666 --> 01:54:47,875
this will have the 780m series though
3063
01:54:48,500 --> 01:54:50,958
graphics so wait what does what does what
3064
01:54:50,958 --> 01:54:55,083
does strix halo have strix halo gpu
3065
01:54:55,208 --> 01:54:59,708
yeah i'm not i'm truthfully not much of a
3066
01:54:59,708 --> 01:55:00,750
hardware guy like i
3067
01:55:00,750 --> 01:55:01,708
don't i'm not knowledgeable
3068
01:55:01,750 --> 01:55:04,416
about this stuff so i keep up to date on
3069
01:55:04,416 --> 01:55:06,125
certain things but yeah
3070
01:55:06,125 --> 01:55:10,875
i'm i mean if this is to be
3071
01:55:10,875 --> 01:55:13,416
believed the seven the same adm i believe
3072
01:55:13,416 --> 01:55:14,875
was on the z1 extreme to
3073
01:55:14,875 --> 01:55:16,041
begin with yeah that's what i
3074
01:55:16,041 --> 01:55:18,458
was wondering it was on the extreme so it
3075
01:55:18,458 --> 01:55:19,125
should be the same
3076
01:55:19,125 --> 01:55:21,083
graphical it's just the processor is
3077
01:55:21,708 --> 01:55:23,500
yeah yeah which is interesting because
3078
01:55:23,500 --> 01:55:26,416
they're the 880 series is
3079
01:55:26,416 --> 01:55:27,666
what supposed should it should
3080
01:55:27,666 --> 01:55:31,958
be i feel like but this is a prototype so
3081
01:55:31,958 --> 01:55:34,708
this could this might not
3082
01:55:34,708 --> 01:55:35,583
be indicative of what we're
3083
01:55:35,583 --> 01:55:38,458
going to get at the end of the day i mean
3084
01:55:38,458 --> 01:55:39,708
that is valid that's valid
3085
01:55:39,708 --> 01:55:40,958
not to mention not to mention
3086
01:55:40,958 --> 01:55:44,000
the actual device itself i believe um is
3087
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,208
running the z2 right just regular z2
3088
01:55:46,208 --> 01:55:48,958
right not the z2 extreme
3089
01:55:49,500 --> 01:55:54,958
yeah yeah exactly so well that's so it
3090
01:55:54,958 --> 01:55:57,083
sounds like z2 is going to be
3091
01:55:57,083 --> 01:56:01,541
a 780m uh gpu or um corset on
3092
01:56:01,541 --> 01:56:04,250
there so all right so the uh that'll be
3093
01:56:04,250 --> 01:56:07,916
interesting though so let's look at the
3094
01:56:07,916 --> 01:56:09,750
specs for the gpd1 5
3095
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:11,416
i've got i pulled up the spec sheet right
3096
01:56:11,416 --> 01:56:13,000
here uh see what we got
3097
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:17,250
here see there's the rise in ai
3098
01:56:17,625 --> 01:56:20,875
rise in ai come on man is amd rise in ai
3099
01:56:20,875 --> 01:56:24,458
max plus 395 and the rise in
3100
01:56:24,458 --> 01:56:26,916
and the amd rise in ai max 385
3101
01:56:26,958 --> 01:56:31,083
those are the two skews um architecture
3102
01:56:31,083 --> 01:56:32,833
is on five strikes halo
3103
01:56:32,833 --> 01:56:36,416
uh where's the gpu section
3104
01:56:37,041 --> 01:56:40,500
okay so the so the strix halo devices
3105
01:56:40,500 --> 01:56:42,291
come with the amd
3106
01:56:42,291 --> 01:56:45,541
radion 80 8000 series series
3107
01:56:46,541 --> 01:56:49,166
so one of them comes with a 80 50 s and
3108
01:56:49,166 --> 01:56:50,208
the other comes with an 80
3109
01:56:50,208 --> 01:56:52,625
60 s so it's different uh
3110
01:56:53,208 --> 01:56:54,625
oh look can you go can you go back to the
3111
01:56:54,625 --> 01:56:56,458
graphics uh section of that video
3112
01:56:58,416 --> 01:57:01,958
yeah i just these naming conventions man
3113
01:57:01,958 --> 01:57:05,541
yeah i hate it i hate it so much
3114
01:57:06,541 --> 01:57:07,708
some of the smartest people in the world
3115
01:57:07,708 --> 01:57:08,416
they can't come up with a
3116
01:57:08,416 --> 01:57:09,625
good name or that or the
3117
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:11,416
fuck the marketing guys all right fuck
3118
01:57:11,416 --> 01:57:13,583
them all right then i said it
3119
01:57:13,583 --> 01:57:20,000
calm down calm down all right 780 m uh
3120
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,416
specs i need to see how
3121
01:57:22,416 --> 01:57:25,416
many uh so according to
3122
01:57:25,833 --> 01:57:28,666
this website right here the 780 m
3123
01:57:28,666 --> 01:57:33,416
generally comes with 768 shader cores
3124
01:57:33,416 --> 01:57:35,333
whereas this new one comes
3125
01:57:35,458 --> 01:57:42,000
with uh 2000 that's that's a lot that's
3126
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:42,875
almost like double the
3127
01:57:42,875 --> 01:57:44,166
amount of wait hold on see
3128
01:57:44,166 --> 01:57:47,833
hold on so this is like triple the 780 m
3129
01:57:47,833 --> 01:57:50,500
has 12 cus uh compute units
3130
01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:52,541
let's see the radion 80 50
3131
01:57:52,625 --> 01:57:55,500
s the lower end version of the uh gpd win
3132
01:57:55,500 --> 01:57:59,250
uh mini 2 comes 32 cus so
3133
01:57:59,250 --> 01:58:00,708
that's like over double the
3134
01:58:00,708 --> 01:58:03,583
amount of uh compute units and the higher
3135
01:58:03,583 --> 01:58:04,666
end one has 40 compute
3136
01:58:04,666 --> 01:58:10,125
units too so dude i just don't
3137
01:58:10,125 --> 01:58:14,125
quite understand why we're making the
3138
01:58:14,125 --> 01:58:16,791
same machines over and over again like
3139
01:58:16,791 --> 01:58:19,833
same like this i mean i
3140
01:58:19,833 --> 01:58:21,583
don't remember exactly what i had i don't
3141
01:58:21,583 --> 01:58:22,291
have the memory for
3142
01:58:22,291 --> 01:58:23,250
these kind of things but like
3143
01:58:24,166 --> 01:58:29,666
the legion go s that i have had either
3144
01:58:29,666 --> 01:58:31,666
the z1 or the z the z1
3145
01:58:31,666 --> 01:58:33,333
extreme or the z2 i don't remember i
3146
01:58:33,333 --> 01:58:35,041
think it was the z1 extreme i thought i
3147
01:58:35,041 --> 01:58:37,083
had a z2 go didn't it or it
3148
01:58:37,083 --> 01:58:38,666
comes with there there's a
3149
01:58:38,666 --> 01:58:39,958
different skew it comes with either
3150
01:58:39,958 --> 01:58:43,416
depending on who you are but like this
3151
01:58:43,416 --> 01:58:46,416
this freaking mini pc here
3152
01:58:46,958 --> 01:58:49,541
this has the z2 extreme in it right or
3153
01:58:49,541 --> 01:58:51,500
the z2 in it and then the
3154
01:58:51,500 --> 01:58:53,000
other mini yeah and then the other
3155
01:58:53,041 --> 01:58:55,625
mini pc that i have like i've got like
3156
01:58:55,625 --> 01:58:57,458
four or five mini pcs with
3157
01:58:57,458 --> 01:59:01,625
uh either the z2 or like the
3158
01:59:01,625 --> 01:59:04,166
ryzen ai nine blah blah blah blah blah
3159
01:59:04,166 --> 01:59:05,500
blah it's just like why are
3160
01:59:05,500 --> 01:59:06,625
we building the same computers
3161
01:59:06,625 --> 01:59:07,750
over and over again i just don't
3162
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:09,875
understand it if they're a different
3163
01:59:09,875 --> 01:59:11,333
company that try to compete
3164
01:59:11,333 --> 01:59:12,875
and have maybe a couple of different
3165
01:59:12,875 --> 01:59:13,833
things different i
3166
01:59:13,833 --> 01:59:15,583
understand but if it's the same
3167
01:59:15,583 --> 01:59:20,875
company like inio um why do you keep on
3168
01:59:20,875 --> 01:59:22,000
doing the same specs i mean
3169
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:23,375
they do have different types
3170
01:59:23,375 --> 01:59:25,375
of hardware now at least at least they're
3171
01:59:25,375 --> 01:59:26,666
doing that because
3172
01:59:26,666 --> 01:59:27,875
therefore while they were not doing
3173
01:59:27,875 --> 01:59:32,791
that but it's it's just crazy like i
3174
01:59:32,791 --> 01:59:34,291
would it's just like i
3175
01:59:34,291 --> 01:59:36,416
would think that the legion go 2
3176
01:59:36,791 --> 01:59:40,000
would have the ai pro in it right or are
3177
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,833
these the old the old specs for the
3178
01:59:42,833 --> 01:59:44,958
previous device no this
3179
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,208
is not the old specs because the z2
3180
01:59:47,208 --> 01:59:49,000
wasn't available for the
3181
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,583
legion go one these are
3182
01:59:50,791 --> 01:59:53,000
prototype so we got to take these a
3183
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:53,583
little bit with a grain of
3184
01:59:53,583 --> 01:59:56,333
salt because uh it could be
3185
01:59:56,333 --> 01:59:57,625
different they could maybe have just been
3186
01:59:57,625 --> 01:59:59,458
prototyping the the
3187
01:59:59,458 --> 02:00:02,208
hardware um the controllers
3188
02:00:02,208 --> 02:00:03,500
or stuff who knows who knows what they
3189
02:00:03,500 --> 02:00:05,625
were doing but i guess there
3190
02:00:05,625 --> 02:00:06,875
is also the spec sheet here but
3191
02:00:06,875 --> 02:00:11,375
once again things can be faked it's super
3192
02:00:11,375 --> 02:00:13,208
bizarre to have a z2
3193
02:00:13,208 --> 02:00:15,333
processor not have a z2 extreme
3194
02:00:15,458 --> 02:00:17,916
option for your flagship device so if
3195
02:00:17,916 --> 02:00:21,166
they don't have z2 extreme i'm really
3196
02:00:21,166 --> 02:00:23,500
shocked well i'm shocked
3197
02:00:23,500 --> 02:00:26,208
the z2 extreme is some it is seemingly
3198
02:00:26,208 --> 02:00:29,500
weaker than you know the uh the strix
3199
02:00:29,500 --> 02:00:31,333
halo devices yeah like
3200
02:00:31,583 --> 02:00:34,166
gbd is starting to put those in the strix
3201
02:00:34,166 --> 02:00:35,833
halos and like their newest
3202
02:00:35,833 --> 02:00:37,250
devices too i got to watch
3203
02:00:37,250 --> 02:00:38,958
what is the power consumption though on
3204
02:00:38,958 --> 02:00:40,083
those they could be
3205
02:00:40,083 --> 02:00:41,625
doing this more also for bad
3206
02:00:41,625 --> 02:00:44,041
because the legion go one was abysmal for
3207
02:00:44,041 --> 02:00:46,500
power i agree yeah i agree
3208
02:00:46,500 --> 02:00:47,958
though the fox has said that
3209
02:00:47,958 --> 02:00:50,250
uh strix halos is actually pretty good on
3210
02:00:50,250 --> 02:00:51,625
it's very power efficient
3211
02:00:51,625 --> 02:00:52,750
too if you can figure it
3212
02:00:53,208 --> 02:00:55,708
down that way of course he's the fox so
3213
02:00:55,708 --> 02:00:57,666
he knows uh he knows a lot more about
3214
02:00:57,666 --> 02:00:59,000
doing all that stuff
3215
02:00:59,041 --> 02:01:06,000
than i do for sure yeah okay yeah i'm
3216
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,083
hoping that because i do want
3217
02:01:08,083 --> 02:01:09,333
a device like this that's 32
3218
02:01:09,333 --> 02:01:13,625
gigabytes of ram i want i just i want the
3219
02:01:13,625 --> 02:01:14,958
best when i go to buy this
3220
02:01:14,958 --> 02:01:17,041
that i can so i can run it
3221
02:01:17,041 --> 02:01:22,583
for a while well i mean aside from the z2
3222
02:01:22,583 --> 02:01:25,875
being well actually wait
3223
02:01:25,875 --> 02:01:27,750
it's a z2 processor wait this
3224
02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:29,791
doesn't even say z2 extreme i must be
3225
02:01:29,791 --> 02:01:31,500
that's what i've been saying it does not
3226
02:01:31,500 --> 02:01:32,875
say the other one on
3227
02:01:32,875 --> 02:01:38,916
the right is the um is the uh the smaller
3228
02:01:38,916 --> 02:01:41,416
devices is the what are the
3229
02:01:41,416 --> 02:01:43,708
ones you guys have yeah yeah
3230
02:01:44,458 --> 02:01:51,416
man uh i do hear that the z2 extreme is a
3231
02:01:51,416 --> 02:01:53,625
generation leap at lower wattages
3232
02:01:53,750 --> 02:01:59,166
but which i'd potentially even take that
3233
02:01:59,166 --> 02:02:02,083
i do want the extra yeah
3234
02:02:02,083 --> 02:02:05,333
yeah i do want extra cores
3235
02:02:05,375 --> 02:02:09,375
though because i might use it for with an
3236
02:02:09,375 --> 02:02:10,583
e gpu for some game
3237
02:02:10,583 --> 02:02:14,375
development but we'll see we'll see
3238
02:02:14,416 --> 02:02:16,666
yes because i want to use i want to do
3239
02:02:16,666 --> 02:02:17,541
some content with it's
3240
02:02:17,541 --> 02:02:19,250
gonna be fun but this has
3241
02:02:19,291 --> 02:02:23,125
definitely got me a little worried like
3242
02:02:23,125 --> 02:02:24,125
looks like i'm getting the
3243
02:02:24,125 --> 02:02:31,208
xbox ally x 360 ai handheld
3244
02:02:31,208 --> 02:02:33,875
hold on now what about the battery they
3245
02:02:33,875 --> 02:02:35,666
does the spec sheet have a
3246
02:02:35,666 --> 02:02:37,916
battery like no but they've i
3247
02:02:37,916 --> 02:02:39,458
think they've already leaked the battery
3248
02:02:39,458 --> 02:02:43,000
it's like a 60 is it a 65
3249
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,291
or 75 i think it's like a 60
3250
02:02:46,250 --> 02:02:49,833
it's between 65 and 75 watts i'd have to
3251
02:02:49,833 --> 02:02:50,708
look it up it probably
3252
02:02:50,708 --> 02:02:52,000
has it in here somewhere
3253
02:02:59,583 --> 02:03:03,833
74 watts battery for sale so it's much
3254
02:03:03,833 --> 02:03:04,458
bigger than the
3255
02:03:04,458 --> 02:03:06,333
original actually quite a bit
3256
02:03:07,583 --> 02:03:09,416
so if it so if the battery blows up it'll
3257
02:03:09,416 --> 02:03:10,125
burn your house down
3258
02:03:10,166 --> 02:03:15,541
um you know what i have fire insurance so
3259
02:03:15,541 --> 02:03:18,708
yeah as long as loki
3260
02:03:18,708 --> 02:03:20,250
makes it out we're good
3261
02:03:21,541 --> 02:03:25,083
i don't need a little fire corgi ball um
3262
02:03:28,666 --> 02:03:29,083
yeah
3263
02:03:32,708 --> 02:03:35,208
i'm pretty sure the second column is the
3264
02:03:35,208 --> 02:03:37,750
um yeah the legion go s
3265
02:03:37,750 --> 02:03:42,458
honestly man honestly man i'm just
3266
02:03:42,458 --> 02:03:43,333
waiting for the steam
3267
02:03:43,333 --> 02:03:44,875
deck two to come out man
3268
02:03:45,625 --> 02:03:47,791
yeah i think for the average person i
3269
02:03:47,791 --> 02:03:49,500
definitely uh do recommend
3270
02:03:49,500 --> 02:03:51,125
that any one that i talk to i'm
3271
02:03:51,125 --> 02:03:53,208
like if you're really wanting a true
3272
02:03:53,208 --> 02:03:55,500
upgrade and you're like you're more
3273
02:03:55,500 --> 02:03:56,750
casual just stick with the
3274
02:03:56,750 --> 02:04:01,250
steam deck for now um but i'm trying to i
3275
02:04:01,250 --> 02:04:01,916
want i kind of want
3276
02:04:01,916 --> 02:04:03,083
content and i also want to just
3277
02:04:03,125 --> 02:04:05,583
simplify my life and i want any gpu steam
3278
02:04:05,583 --> 02:04:06,541
deck two needs to have
3279
02:04:06,541 --> 02:04:08,541
any gpu like compatibility
3280
02:04:08,625 --> 02:04:10,375
because i really want to play around with
3281
02:04:10,375 --> 02:04:12,041
that it's making it less
3282
02:04:12,041 --> 02:04:13,541
fun to not have that option
3283
02:04:14,583 --> 02:04:17,125
please valve give us give us something
3284
02:04:17,125 --> 02:04:19,708
man i did the steam deck
3285
02:04:19,708 --> 02:04:20,791
community has been in an uproar
3286
02:04:20,791 --> 02:04:23,791
because i mean like what more can you do
3287
02:04:23,791 --> 02:04:24,708
with the steam deck really
3288
02:04:24,708 --> 02:04:26,666
the most you can do at this
3289
02:04:26,666 --> 02:04:29,000
point is like try to run a game that
3290
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:30,000
doesn't run very well in
3291
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:31,250
the steam deck kind of like uh
3292
02:04:31,666 --> 02:04:32,083
what's the word i'm like
3293
02:04:32,083 --> 02:04:34,375
what's the one i'm looking for um
3294
02:04:36,541 --> 02:04:38,250
any modern triple-a game that comes out
3295
02:04:38,250 --> 02:04:39,708
these days doesn't really
3296
02:04:39,708 --> 02:04:40,625
run that well in steam deck
3297
02:04:40,625 --> 02:04:43,125
for the most part right it depends on
3298
02:04:43,125 --> 02:04:45,166
what it is but yeah yeah split fiction
3299
02:04:45,166 --> 02:04:46,666
runs really good on it
3300
02:04:47,250 --> 02:04:49,333
i don't know about triple-a but fair
3301
02:04:49,333 --> 02:04:53,291
enough okay i'm offended by
3302
02:04:53,291 --> 02:04:56,291
that but uh no you're you're
3303
02:04:56,708 --> 02:04:57,833
i mean i'd put it on the
3304
02:04:57,833 --> 02:05:00,375
realms of like double-a but um
3305
02:05:01,833 --> 02:05:04,875
it has decent graphics and it's just i
3306
02:05:04,875 --> 02:05:05,750
think they optimized it
3307
02:05:05,750 --> 02:05:09,958
also yeah they optimized it
3308
02:05:09,958 --> 02:05:11,875
well enough to run on the steam deck so
3309
02:05:11,875 --> 02:05:14,333
fair enough fair enough i
3310
02:05:14,333 --> 02:05:15,208
think a lot of games could
3311
02:05:15,208 --> 02:05:18,541
be done that way but we're not you know
3312
02:05:18,541 --> 02:05:19,916
holding these game companies
3313
02:05:19,916 --> 02:05:21,250
to do that uh you know they
3314
02:05:21,291 --> 02:05:22,791
do have an interesting battery layout
3315
02:05:22,791 --> 02:05:26,291
it's like a u-shape battery uh is it oh
3316
02:05:26,291 --> 02:05:27,041
yeah it is a u-shape
3317
02:05:27,041 --> 02:05:28,541
i thought i was a dual like they had two
3318
02:05:28,541 --> 02:05:30,000
different ones but or maybe
3319
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:31,333
it is i don't know i couldn't
3320
02:05:31,333 --> 02:05:33,750
really tell from that video uh no i think
3321
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:34,500
you're right i think it was
3322
02:05:34,500 --> 02:05:37,083
you i just because it has a
3323
02:05:37,083 --> 02:05:38,833
connector at the bottom yeah it probably
3324
02:05:38,833 --> 02:05:39,791
doesn't have it it probably
3325
02:05:39,791 --> 02:05:41,250
doesn't have any like battery
3326
02:05:41,250 --> 02:05:43,083
in the the bottom part it just keeps it
3327
02:05:43,083 --> 02:05:45,458
as one unit yeah that's
3328
02:05:45,458 --> 02:05:47,708
valid it's a bigger fan than
3329
02:05:47,833 --> 02:05:51,250
the original one um i've taken a part of
3330
02:05:51,250 --> 02:05:51,958
the original one there was
3331
02:05:51,958 --> 02:05:53,000
definitely plenty of room
3332
02:05:53,041 --> 02:05:55,541
to upgrade so i'm glad that you use that
3333
02:05:55,541 --> 02:05:57,833
extra room to add this
3334
02:05:57,833 --> 02:06:00,041
battery in because if that was
3335
02:06:00,041 --> 02:06:01,791
what like if you're gonna have an 8.8
3336
02:06:01,791 --> 02:06:03,708
inch screen you better have a bigger
3337
02:06:03,708 --> 02:06:05,833
battery honestly man i
3338
02:06:05,833 --> 02:06:07,458
thought i'd use the mouse moon worm my
3339
02:06:07,458 --> 02:06:09,500
lesion go uh because you
3340
02:06:09,500 --> 02:06:10,625
know it was such a cool thing to
3341
02:06:10,625 --> 02:06:14,916
have once but like it's not that usable
3342
02:06:14,916 --> 02:06:18,708
um because of how bad Lenovo's like
3343
02:06:18,708 --> 02:06:20,000
control configurator is
3344
02:06:21,833 --> 02:06:24,583
now if they like now if they like combine
3345
02:06:24,583 --> 02:06:26,625
that with steam input i bet
3346
02:06:26,625 --> 02:06:27,916
you'd be a lot better right
3347
02:06:29,458 --> 02:06:32,458
yeah i agree i definitely think there's a
3348
02:06:32,458 --> 02:06:33,125
lot of things that they can
3349
02:06:33,125 --> 02:06:34,625
improve um software is the
3350
02:06:34,625 --> 02:06:36,875
worst part definitely about the legion go
3351
02:06:36,875 --> 02:06:38,166
i had to return it it
3352
02:06:38,166 --> 02:06:39,833
was the software was so bad
3353
02:06:40,250 --> 02:06:41,791
i had to return my legion go i just
3354
02:06:41,791 --> 02:06:43,208
couldn't use it it was
3355
02:06:43,208 --> 02:06:44,791
bothering me too much
3356
02:06:46,458 --> 02:06:49,333
where i returned my ally that's the thing
3357
02:06:49,333 --> 02:06:51,125
i liked my ally i kept my
3358
02:06:51,125 --> 02:06:52,583
ally and so i was using my ally
3359
02:06:52,583 --> 02:06:54,791
for months and then i got this the legion
3360
02:06:54,791 --> 02:06:55,916
go partially you do
3361
02:06:55,916 --> 02:06:58,000
content too but also because
3362
02:06:58,000 --> 02:06:59,375
i just wanted a bigger screen and i'm
3363
02:06:59,375 --> 02:07:01,125
like nope i want the bigger
3364
02:07:01,125 --> 02:07:03,875
screen but i can't stand this
3365
02:07:04,958 --> 02:07:07,583
but now that they're coming out with a
3366
02:07:07,583 --> 02:07:08,541
new one i've heard that they're have
3367
02:07:08,541 --> 02:07:09,375
upgraded their software
3368
02:07:09,375 --> 02:07:12,458
quite a bit and steam os i could put
3369
02:07:12,458 --> 02:07:13,916
steam well on there and there's going to
3370
02:07:13,916 --> 02:07:14,833
be additional windows
3371
02:07:14,958 --> 02:07:18,208
options um i it looks much bright like
3372
02:07:18,208 --> 02:07:21,583
like there's going to be a lot more um
3373
02:07:21,583 --> 02:07:23,083
more things you can do
3374
02:07:23,083 --> 02:07:27,125
with legion go too so i'm hoping
3375
02:07:27,125 --> 02:07:32,250
everything's fixed we'll see hmm but if
3376
02:07:32,250 --> 02:07:34,375
another i mean maybe
3377
02:07:34,708 --> 02:07:36,583
whatever it is i i just want an eight
3378
02:07:36,583 --> 02:07:39,541
inch plus device it's all i
3379
02:07:39,541 --> 02:07:41,458
really care about i'm a size
3380
02:07:41,666 --> 02:07:43,791
queen or keen right now with with my
3381
02:07:43,791 --> 02:07:46,666
displays so sticking with
3382
02:07:46,666 --> 02:07:48,833
the nsfw kind of tag of this
3383
02:07:48,833 --> 02:07:51,833
episode i yeah size matters for me right
3384
02:07:51,833 --> 02:07:59,708
now so wow okay so uh with
3385
02:07:59,708 --> 02:08:01,166
that being said i think we've
3386
02:08:01,208 --> 02:08:03,041
pretty much run the gamut on our whole
3387
02:08:03,041 --> 02:08:04,208
topic list and we've even
3388
02:08:04,208 --> 02:08:05,125
covered a couple of things
3389
02:08:05,583 --> 02:08:09,083
that were not on the list um with that
3390
02:08:09,083 --> 02:08:10,083
being said anything else we
3391
02:08:10,083 --> 02:08:11,875
need to cover before we uh
3392
02:08:12,541 --> 02:08:15,625
mosey on out let's see what reddit has to
3393
02:08:15,625 --> 02:08:17,791
say oh my gosh this is
3394
02:08:17,791 --> 02:08:18,958
where patreon should be it's
3395
02:08:18,958 --> 02:08:21,333
like okay now it's time for the searching
3396
02:08:21,333 --> 02:08:24,916
let's see clear script
3397
02:08:24,916 --> 02:08:26,208
developers visit square enix's
3398
02:08:26,250 --> 02:08:29,041
office for a quote rich exchange quote of
3399
02:08:29,041 --> 02:08:32,875
ideas sony wants to expand
3400
02:08:32,875 --> 02:08:35,083
uh playstation studios games
3401
02:08:35,083 --> 02:08:37,500
beyond playstation hardware hiring to
3402
02:08:37,500 --> 02:08:38,916
partner with xbox steam
3403
02:08:38,916 --> 02:08:40,083
nintendo switch and more
3404
02:08:41,041 --> 02:08:42,833
oh this could this this might be
3405
02:08:42,833 --> 02:08:46,583
interesting says here microsoft let the
3406
02:08:46,583 --> 02:08:48,416
yada yada yada yada yeah
3407
02:08:48,416 --> 02:08:50,291
look they're hiring for senior director
3408
02:08:50,291 --> 02:08:52,000
multi-platform and account management
3409
02:08:52,708 --> 02:08:55,833
why playstation okay overview reporting
3410
02:08:55,833 --> 02:08:57,291
to the vp commercial
3411
02:08:57,291 --> 02:08:58,500
management as senior director
3412
02:08:58,500 --> 02:09:00,750
multi-platform and account manager you
3413
02:09:00,750 --> 02:09:03,250
will play a critical leadership role in
3414
02:09:03,250 --> 02:09:04,375
shaping and executing
3415
02:09:04,416 --> 02:09:06,791
the global commercial strategy for
3416
02:09:06,791 --> 02:09:08,208
playstation studios
3417
02:09:08,208 --> 02:09:11,041
software titles across all digital
3418
02:09:11,041 --> 02:09:13,666
platforms beyond playstation hardware
3419
02:09:13,666 --> 02:09:15,791
including steam epic game
3420
02:09:15,791 --> 02:09:18,416
store xbox nintendo and mobile
3421
02:09:19,125 --> 02:09:21,583
this role is accountable for optimizing
3422
02:09:21,583 --> 02:09:23,208
title profitability ensuring
3423
02:09:23,208 --> 02:09:24,791
cross-functional alignment
3424
02:09:25,375 --> 02:09:28,166
and leading a high performing team
3425
02:09:28,166 --> 02:09:30,208
focused on multi-platform extension
3426
02:09:30,208 --> 02:09:32,375
mid-range commercial
3427
02:09:32,375 --> 02:09:36,166
planning and platform partner management
3428
02:09:36,166 --> 02:09:40,166
so who wants to be the
3429
02:09:40,166 --> 02:09:41,625
senior director to kill
3430
02:09:42,416 --> 02:09:43,416
console exclusives
3431
02:09:44,333 --> 02:09:47,708
oh
3432
02:09:47,958 --> 02:09:52,333
i think they're died a long time ago well
3433
02:09:52,333 --> 02:09:53,250
i mean they could be a
3434
02:09:53,250 --> 02:09:54,708
little more dead if you asked me
3435
02:09:54,708 --> 02:09:57,958
but they could be completed they can be
3436
02:09:57,958 --> 02:09:59,291
completely dead they could be
3437
02:09:59,291 --> 02:10:01,416
we could be having god of war
3438
02:10:01,416 --> 02:10:04,291
the new god of war day one on xbox that's
3439
02:10:04,291 --> 02:10:06,000
how dead it should be i
3440
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:07,958
got your joke james i know
3441
02:10:08,250 --> 02:10:09,666
it was a stupid joke because i didn't
3442
02:10:09,666 --> 02:10:11,208
quite fit but they could
3443
02:10:11,208 --> 02:10:12,708
complete its career of being
3444
02:10:12,708 --> 02:10:22,916
non-exclusive yeah it's yeah i mean it'll
3445
02:10:22,916 --> 02:10:23,666
be interesting to see
3446
02:10:23,666 --> 02:10:25,000
what the future holds because
3447
02:10:25,583 --> 02:10:28,541
at the end of the day i'll probably own
3448
02:10:28,541 --> 02:10:31,166
every platform that i
3449
02:10:31,166 --> 02:10:32,666
want to play games on like
3450
02:10:33,416 --> 02:10:37,625
a sony device pc well do i'm doing pretty
3451
02:10:37,625 --> 02:10:39,500
good these days well you
3452
02:10:39,500 --> 02:10:41,250
could own everything on pc
3453
02:10:43,291 --> 02:10:46,208
actually that's true except for um it has
3454
02:10:46,208 --> 02:10:46,916
been kind of nice for
3455
02:10:46,916 --> 02:10:48,458
the kids to not have to to
3456
02:10:48,458 --> 02:10:49,666
tinker around with the pc to get it
3457
02:10:49,666 --> 02:10:51,333
started to play stuff like ash robot
3458
02:10:51,333 --> 02:10:52,208
because they come to
3459
02:10:52,208 --> 02:10:54,791
me if something doesn't work with like vr
3460
02:10:54,791 --> 02:10:56,500
one of my kids likes to play
3461
02:10:56,500 --> 02:10:58,708
vr a lot and so i have to get
3462
02:10:58,958 --> 02:11:01,333
up and help them all the time and so it's
3463
02:11:01,333 --> 02:11:02,000
nice that they can just
3464
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:03,625
have the easy ui with the
3465
02:11:03,625 --> 02:11:06,083
playstation well hopefully steamo wass
3466
02:11:06,083 --> 02:11:07,708
will be even i mean steamo i
3467
02:11:07,708 --> 02:11:08,875
think steamo has like bridged
3468
02:11:08,875 --> 02:11:10,500
that gap quite a bit i know there are
3469
02:11:10,500 --> 02:11:12,750
still some like i agree yeah
3470
02:11:12,750 --> 02:11:16,541
like steamo they could have
3471
02:11:16,541 --> 02:11:18,333
asked your butt if you applied for this
3472
02:11:18,333 --> 02:11:22,125
job true or if gardener
3473
02:11:22,125 --> 02:11:25,250
applied for this job he could make
3474
02:11:25,250 --> 02:11:28,708
uh he could make playstation release all
3475
02:11:28,708 --> 02:11:36,375
the games yeah i go on dude it look
3476
02:11:36,416 --> 02:11:40,416
like i've a lot i could say about this
3477
02:11:40,416 --> 02:11:42,083
but like i'm not
3478
02:11:42,083 --> 02:11:44,291
opposed to console exclusives
3479
02:11:44,875 --> 02:11:46,416
i know people get pissed at me for saying
3480
02:11:46,416 --> 02:11:48,000
that i don't i don't give
3481
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:49,333
a shit like if a company
3482
02:11:49,333 --> 02:11:50,916
wants to do it that's more power to them
3483
02:11:50,916 --> 02:11:55,541
i don't care yeah i mean i'm
3484
02:11:55,541 --> 02:11:56,458
a little bit the same way i
3485
02:11:56,458 --> 02:11:59,291
don't care so much but if i really like
3486
02:11:59,291 --> 02:12:00,458
it enough i'm gonna buy the console and
3487
02:12:00,458 --> 02:12:01,416
play it the con here's
3488
02:12:01,458 --> 02:12:06,583
the thing console like dude consoles the
3489
02:12:06,583 --> 02:12:10,666
console exclusives sell uh consoles right
3490
02:12:12,625 --> 02:12:16,000
like that and and and but what also does
3491
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:18,458
is like the fomo cycle
3492
02:12:18,458 --> 02:12:20,291
like the fomo marketing cycle
3493
02:12:20,625 --> 02:12:23,416
and you know if you if you're deeply
3494
02:12:23,416 --> 02:12:25,000
passionate about there should
3495
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:26,875
not be any console exclusives
3496
02:12:27,208 --> 02:12:29,583
then then you're caught in the fomo cycle
3497
02:12:29,583 --> 02:12:32,291
like it sucks like i don't
3498
02:12:32,291 --> 02:12:34,000
care about video like i don't
3499
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,625
care about new video games anymore anyway
3500
02:12:35,625 --> 02:12:37,500
so it's like let them do
3501
02:12:37,500 --> 02:12:38,708
whatever the hell they want i
3502
02:12:38,708 --> 02:12:43,041
don't care i still get fomo dude i
3503
02:12:43,041 --> 02:12:45,583
literally the only game that has i've
3504
02:12:45,583 --> 02:12:46,625
even felt a little bit
3505
02:12:46,625 --> 02:12:48,708
of fomo for is the perfect dark game that
3506
02:12:48,708 --> 02:12:50,125
microsoft just killed like i'm not
3507
02:12:50,125 --> 02:12:51,333
kidding over the last 10
3508
02:12:51,375 --> 02:12:53,583
years i don't think i've been excited
3509
02:12:53,583 --> 02:12:55,333
about like any game
3510
02:12:55,333 --> 02:12:56,708
besides maybe doom eternal
3511
02:12:58,250 --> 02:13:00,625
and how did that turn out doom eternal
3512
02:13:00,625 --> 02:13:03,291
was great and then i saw it i love you
3513
02:13:03,291 --> 02:13:06,500
i watched the trailer for doing the dark
3514
02:13:06,500 --> 02:13:07,791
ages the first trailer
3515
02:13:07,791 --> 02:13:08,958
and i was like oh that looks
3516
02:13:08,958 --> 02:13:11,375
terrible and then i tried to keep an open
3517
02:13:11,375 --> 02:13:13,166
mind but i just did not
3518
02:13:13,166 --> 02:13:14,583
think it was exciting it didn't
3519
02:13:14,583 --> 02:13:17,083
look exciting like i think the games
3520
02:13:17,083 --> 02:13:19,291
industry has lost its mojo and that's
3521
02:13:19,291 --> 02:13:20,541
where we're at right now
3522
02:13:20,666 --> 02:13:24,458
like it's just a directionless industry i
3523
02:13:24,458 --> 02:13:25,583
i also think there's an
3524
02:13:25,583 --> 02:13:27,416
abundance of a lot of games and
3525
02:13:27,416 --> 02:13:28,833
i think there might be a little bit of
3526
02:13:28,833 --> 02:13:33,333
like just uh what is that what's the
3527
02:13:33,333 --> 02:13:34,541
thing i'm thinking of is
3528
02:13:34,541 --> 02:13:37,250
just we're getting too many we're being
3529
02:13:37,250 --> 02:13:39,375
inundated with just so much
3530
02:13:39,375 --> 02:13:42,166
yeah and most of the games now
3531
02:13:42,333 --> 02:13:46,375
are like predatory microtransactions with
3532
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like almost no like single
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player like component and
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i don't give a fuck about online play in
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the slightest like so for
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me it's like dude if you
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want to sell you know and these companies
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02:14:00,916 --> 02:14:01,791
have just lost their way
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completely so it's like i
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want the industry to die and i don't care
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02:14:05,541 --> 02:14:08,125
like the triple-a industry
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i want the indie industry to
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keep going because they're great dude the
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02:14:11,458 --> 02:14:12,958
indies on hair the games
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02:14:12,958 --> 02:14:14,166
industry that would be yeah
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02:14:14,500 --> 02:14:16,208
that would be great indies shall air
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02:14:16,208 --> 02:14:18,208
hairdie the indies happened
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02:14:18,208 --> 02:14:21,708
before so sorry i i get on my
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02:14:21,708 --> 02:14:24,166
soapbox about this no it's fine it's just
3550
02:14:24,166 --> 02:14:25,291
there's a lot of people that
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02:14:25,291 --> 02:14:26,500
are going to suffer i i want
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02:14:26,500 --> 02:14:28,375
it to be kind of a rebirth i kind of want
3553
02:14:28,375 --> 02:14:30,208
like i don't think that's
3554
02:14:30,208 --> 02:14:31,458
gonna like the total video
3555
02:14:31,583 --> 02:14:35,291
games crash oh yeah that's it's coming
3556
02:14:35,291 --> 02:14:38,375
dude potentially yeah
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02:14:38,375 --> 02:14:39,500
well i think it's gonna be
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02:14:39,500 --> 02:14:41,666
they're just gonna keep on shedding off
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02:14:41,666 --> 02:14:44,000
anything that's not profitable and
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02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:45,000
they're gonna to get to
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02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:46,458
the point where it's like we can only
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02:14:46,458 --> 02:14:48,875
milk call of duty so much dude and and
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02:14:48,875 --> 02:14:49,875
they'll die they'll just
3564
02:14:49,875 --> 02:14:52,458
right now right now the industry is is
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02:14:52,458 --> 02:14:54,375
doing that already and it's
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02:14:54,375 --> 02:14:56,000
just it's a jenga tower like
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02:14:56,250 --> 02:14:57,666
they're they're shaving off everything
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02:14:57,666 --> 02:14:59,083
that isn't profitable and
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02:14:59,083 --> 02:15:00,708
resting the entire fate of the
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02:15:00,708 --> 02:15:03,958
industry on call of duty and halo and the
3571
02:15:03,958 --> 02:15:05,208
last of us and it's like
3572
02:15:05,208 --> 02:15:07,416
dude get the fuck out of here
3573
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:11,958
yeah i mean and great the thought of five
3574
02:15:11,958 --> 02:15:13,708
like dude you know it's
3575
02:15:13,708 --> 02:15:15,416
just like these massive titles
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02:15:15,583 --> 02:15:18,333
that will not be that will not be able to
3577
02:15:18,333 --> 02:15:19,250
support the industry under
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02:15:19,250 --> 02:15:20,458
its own weight and it's just
3579
02:15:20,458 --> 02:15:23,000
gonna crash well i don't want to have
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02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:24,750
like four companies to go
3581
02:15:24,750 --> 02:15:27,083
work for that sounds horrible and
3582
02:15:28,083 --> 02:15:29,875
anti-competitive essentially especially
3583
02:15:29,875 --> 02:15:31,958
for such a big industry
3584
02:15:31,958 --> 02:15:33,750
as games yeah sounds like a
3585
02:15:33,750 --> 02:15:35,625
nightmare but then again i'm also i'm
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02:15:35,625 --> 02:15:36,666
much more for small and
3587
02:15:36,666 --> 02:15:39,041
medium businesses so yeah break up
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02:15:39,041 --> 02:15:41,458
the big ones yeah well we need unions and
3589
02:15:41,458 --> 02:15:42,833
we need smaller companies
3590
02:15:42,833 --> 02:15:44,833
unions are coming for these uh
3591
02:15:44,833 --> 02:15:47,875
for l-tech jobs yeah trust me on that one
3592
02:15:47,875 --> 02:15:50,208
it's gotta happen it's
3593
02:15:50,208 --> 02:15:51,708
you treat people bad enough
3594
02:15:51,916 --> 02:15:56,833
they're gonna unionize so um yeah well
3595
02:15:56,833 --> 02:15:59,000
let's end this uh episode
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02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:01,541
on uh i don't know if there's
3597
02:16:01,541 --> 02:16:03,625
anything good to end this on lonovo
3598
02:16:03,625 --> 02:16:06,083
legion go looks interesting but it's a
3599
02:16:06,083 --> 02:16:06,541
little disappointing
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02:16:06,541 --> 02:16:09,916
so nothing's good everything's bad uh
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02:16:09,916 --> 02:16:13,500
let's sign out anything glass let any
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02:16:13,500 --> 02:16:15,000
last uh things you want
3603
02:16:15,208 --> 02:16:17,875
to mention just little little things
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02:16:17,875 --> 02:16:19,625
before we head out get
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02:16:19,625 --> 02:16:22,291
subscribed yeah get subscribed also
3606
02:16:22,416 --> 02:16:25,375
iron mouse made her own little charity
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02:16:25,375 --> 02:16:26,791
that you can donate to for
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02:16:26,791 --> 02:16:28,500
the immune immune deficiency
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02:16:28,541 --> 02:16:32,291
foundation if you want to donate there
3610
02:16:32,291 --> 02:16:33,458
instead of having that
3611
02:16:33,458 --> 02:16:35,166
instead of having that uh charity
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02:16:35,166 --> 02:16:38,041
fund embezzled do it instead you know
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02:16:38,041 --> 02:16:39,333
there'll be a link in the description
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02:16:39,333 --> 02:16:41,416
down below i'm sending
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02:16:41,458 --> 02:16:43,208
that to you guys as well in case you're
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02:16:43,208 --> 02:16:44,750
interested and she's been
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02:16:44,750 --> 02:16:46,375
doing great work i think it's i
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02:16:46,375 --> 02:16:49,791
think it's good stuff man yeah she's a
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02:16:49,791 --> 02:16:51,000
good face for something like that too
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02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:52,000
like yeah she's done
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02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:56,083
amazing stuff she's very talented so i'm
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02:16:56,083 --> 02:16:57,625
hoping that uh yeah go
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02:16:57,625 --> 02:17:00,625
donate there um yeah that's it for
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02:17:00,666 --> 02:17:03,041
me peace out guys see you
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02:17:03,041 --> 02:17:07,958
later see you later and stopping