You haven't seen how bad games can AI
games can be until you've
seen this video right here
What is happening?
And now well, well just
materialize where a door was
So why don't they give
you two sets of options
They give you like an in quote-unquote
in-game prompt like you look at this
There's actual text you can actually read
here and then this is not text that you
can read the in-game prompt
What you got you guys don't
want to press a to go what Dave?
Good morning everyone. It is that time of
year again. It's off the console the
scariest year old podcast
It's all about horror gaming tech horror
stories and anything scary
This week we're gonna be covering some of
the biggest news some of the
scariest headlines including
Counter-Strike 2's rug pull
Which is terrifying for
many many folks I can imagine
There's the over 5,000 steam games fail
to even make back the hundred dollar
publishing fee on steam
Which I can imagine would also be quite
scary and a whole lot more
We've got a ton of stuff including some
really fun ghost
stories in the bonus show
Which is over on patreon my name is
gardener and I am joined by my friends
high-tech lowlife and James
Aka the brink how's it going my friends?
So great doing alright, and I would shoot
dude. It's been a heck of a week
I'm really excited to talk
about some of these stories here
So we like to start to show off by
talking about the things that
we've been playing this week
Hi tech, what have you
been playing this week?
So this week I take the role of gardener
and I haven't played any real video games
Oh my god, but I
Have been playing I haven't playing a new
gacha game, so I mean I
don't know if that counts or not
Me almost depends on the game gacha
games. Don't they're not real games
It's a new one called a
Chaos zero nightmare
It's an interesting one because it is a
gacha game, but the actual gameplay is
like a mix of slay the spire and
Darkest dungeon hmm. Okay, you got my
attention on that. That sounds cool.
Actually. I like both those games
Yeah, but it was anime as
fuck in case you're wondering
I don't but it's also like yeah, it's
it's it's free brutal though anyways, but
yeah, that's my that's my week
I've been doing some
server shit trying to prepare my
NASA's for greater purposes hmm
And also just works been
really killing me. What about you?
James what about Oh me? Yeah, I've been
having a pretty good week
actually I've been playing Kronos
The new dawn on my Mac studio. I streamed
it two days ago. I'll probably continue
to stream it actually
the next few days probably not on my Mac
studio because I wanted
to see what it could do and
I was able to get pretty far before I
started artifacting and
having some issues, but
It is pretty cool. What?
wine and what?
It's capable to do of like a Windows game
on Mac and so I'm just having fun with
that rent really well
shockingly
But my internet so much but so yeah doing
Kronos which is it's like a Resident Evil
meets Dead Space meets some other games
Type of game. It's really fun
It's not too spooky yet
But it could have been that I'm streaming
it and the problem with streaming
sometimes is it doesn't feel as spooky
Because you have other
people there to talk to mmm
But yeah, then I've
also I got my wife Susie
Watch are playing Alan Wake one. She just
finished it the remake or the remaster
and then she's playing Alan Wake so
They're watching her do
that. That's pretty fun
Nice great games by the
way definitely very like
During the spooky season or even any any
time of the year.
They're great to pick up
That's awesome
Alan Wake I haven't played that in ages
man. I've never
played out and wait before
Alan wake one does not hold up as well as
But Alan wake like it is worth playing
cuz the story because it really is very
story heavy. I mean
you're following an author
but Alan wake is
Really good and so is control and they
all in the same
universe and it's very much an
Amazing series that I think anyone that
enjoys a story should play
No, I might have to give it a shot at
some point eventually maybe
Very promising
Now what about you gardener? What have
you been playing? All right? Well, I
actually unlike the last couple of weeks
I've actually been playing a game. I've
gone back to it and I have discovered
That this game is
actually good for my diabetes
It's called beat saber which
you guys might have heard of
Gardner actually playing game. I know
so I have a valve index and I
Have a nice big play space out here in
the living room and you know
doing the EDM dance simulator
2013 or whatever
That's pretty it actually really does
Make my blood sugar go down
When I'm when I'm playing
it, which is really nice
So because it's been getting cold out
And I haven't been going for as many
walks or as long of walks
I'm like, what's let's just see how this
affects my diabetes and it actually helps
quite a bit. So yeah, I
The problem is I get really bored of the
same songs over and over again
so I've had to like kind of dive into the
custom songs and
man, there is some
real uneven
difficulty curves in the in the
community sourced songs
They are
But I'll tell you Kendrick Lamar
Absolutely slaps when it comes to beat
saber dude, like yeah, it's pretty good
It's so good
I picked it up a couple like a month or
two ago and played a bunch of that
Yeah, I really honestly for cardio
Yeah, it'd be worth it. I'd almost
Wants to buy standalone to VR headset to
play that game because I
hate setting up my yeah
Index for it. That is a
huge issue for me because like
Playing VR on Linux I
tried it the other day
Still not a great experience
It's still quite choppy and frame lags
and like just make me feel sick
And it's like an immediate thing as soon
as I had steam VR set up on Linux
I put the headset on and I
was just immediately like in
c6 City, so
Yeah, so I have a Windows PC out there
that I'm playing on I know I know shock
Pearl clutched but it's the
only way to play VR right now
and so I
I tried to like set it up so that Windows
would just automatically log in right but
because I had set up a an
offline account on
for Windows 11
when it like I don't know what happened
but like I think I don't know if I logged
in as my windows account for some
reason or if Emily might have logged into
my account or something, but
It got logged into a Windows account and
because they were set up differently
There's like some something weird with
Windows now where it will
not no matter what I try to do
it will not
automatically log into the to the
only user account on the system and that
means that I have to like
Have a frickin keyboard connected to it
so I can like type in a pin
or something. It's so dumb
He's a great Windows is such a piece of
shit, dude. God damn
it. It makes me so angry
Who knows maybe?
Valve's Deckard will fix everything wrong
with VR on Linux. That is my hope. That
is my hope. I really
really hope that valve
Solves the especially the the frame time
issue because it just makes me so sick
when I try using Linux in VR
anyway
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Yes
Cool. So
Want to get into our first topic here?
Yes, let's go into the CS 2 rug pull so
for those who don't know
Counter-strike
global offensive
CSgo and now CS2
Was built upon this idea that you collect
a bunch of skins and stuff
And of course one of the most coveted
skins to the most coveted skins, of
course are the gloves
Which I think is a fairly new addition
and the knives the knives are worth
thousands and thousands
Sometimes I think the most expensive
knife. Let me look at a
CS2 most expensive knife
1.5 million dollars
for a for a blue karambit
Now karambits are
pretty cool in real life
I will say but I don't think it's a cool
1.5 million dollar cool
Dude, I'm sorry, but that is that nothing
digital is worth that
amount of money nothing
Now let me compare this to the price of a
real karambit that you could probably buy
Let's do let's do a fixed blade
You could buy like a real
karambit for like 400 500 bucks
I'm sure they don't have the crazy blue
patterns, but you could do that yourself
Yeah, you could find
something to do it custom for you
But anyways, we haven't even gotten to
the real topic at hand
So they launched a new feature called the
trade-up system, which lets people trade
up a bunch of different items in a set
to
effectively
trade up to knives
Which has drastically
reduced the value of knives
But it's also increased the value of some
of those other trash skins that you may
have been hoarding all this all this time
Because weapons skins aren't that
valuable to be honest?
So billion allegedly one billion dollars
of market value has been white
That's all I like the idea that there's a
market value for encounter strike like
there's a market like that
Well, I mean that's kind of how it is
when you enable trading
Yeah, there's no real world trading. I
should mention it's only
like yeah steam trading
So like if you sell one of your night
your knives like your karambits for like
one for five million
You can probably buy games for the rest
of your life on steam
Or but I would rather figure out I would
rather figure out a way to
Get that money off of steam into my
wallet into my bank account. Yeah,
they'll probably tax you hell
But yeah, just keep on buying
steam decks and selling them
That's not a bad idea. I'd lose. Yeah,
I'm a steam deck seller. Yeah
so it's gotten to the point where the
CS knives subreddit, I forget what the
name of is the top pinned post is a
suicide hotline. Oh my gosh
It's that bad. I
Mean when people lose money,
even if it's a digital they
Does not end well, what's not losing
money if you don't if it's not liquid
because it's just a
theoretical value until you sell it
Yeah
but it's
Still happens
Yeah, I get it though. I
get it though. It sucks
It's a true horror story for those that
place. Yes exclusively for the knives and
not for the actual gameplay
Dude
Man there's so much about
this that I absolutely despise
Like I'm just curious like how is this
any different from
like company town money?
Well, I'll come any town money is like
you you talking about like
Just a town that's run by a
company that you have to spend
More like they set the prices for all the
goods and everything
There's real-life stuff that you can yeah
suffer from well, you can't really buy
like valve doesn't really
Let you like sell these for real money
and they don't they certainly don't sell
these for real money either
Right, but I mean you can still but like
what I'm trying to say is like
In a company town you only made money
like through
The company's like currency right and
then you could only spend
that currency in the company town
And then they like they set the prices
for all the goods and services that were
available in the town
so it's like I
think like this seems
To me like a digital parallel to that
where it's like you're you
know, you're selling these goods
Through you know
through valued at dollars
but they're really it's just money that
you can't extract from the steam and
You can only spend it on steam and it's
like and and most of the prices are at
least in some to some degree
affected by valves like
You know 30% cut or whatever so it's like
it just seems to me like
verging on unethical
If it isn't just completely unethical and
then they can also do this where they
make an arbitrary change and it like
Wipes a billion dollars off of the market
cap of the whole economy. It
just seems absolutely crazy
It's always been fairly
unstable, but that's that's what you get
with this type of stuff and if people are
Really putting in this much time effort
or even money into this like
I have some bad news for you
I get what you're saying with
the analogy gardener. Mm-hmm
but
Technically valve doesn't set the prices
of CS knives to multiple thousands of
dollars. It's a random pull from a
From a loot box. Yeah, you buy a key for
him. The keys are like a dollar each
I theoretically you could get a knife for
a dollar right? That's
true lucky. Yes, that is true
So that that is different. But like it
just seems weird to
me that valve not only
Could created this entire economy, but
then they also have this level of
Control over the economy and they're the
only ones who do right? Does it my I
don't know if I'm making sense
Yeah, it's very concerning to me
and it's not just valve like like
fortnight is the same way like
All like roblox all of these companies
have like these perfect little
Monopolistic fiefdoms over the economies
they created and it's like that should I
don't think that that should
be allowed to exist personally
Yeah, it is definitely
verging on that digital
company town mentality, but I
Mean to me if valve did it I'd be okay
with having a valve town
Okay with having a roblox
Roblox takes 80% of your cut
Yeah, yeah roblox. Yes. Yeah to be fair
that most roblox games are just people
taking concepts from popular
indies and just turning into
Shitty aversion and shitter roblox
versions. Yeah filled with a
brim with microtransactions
Designed by these like game developers in
roblox but I played roblox
with my nieces and nephews
Yeah, and let me tell you some of those
games have like
microtransactions up the ass
It makes you it makes it it makes a mix
of mobile gotcha game kind of
Yeah, I guess roblox would be more of a
company town kind of mentality, right?
Yeah, yeah, and yeah, of course you can
always exfiltrate your
earned roblox into real money
Mm-hmm, which is why there's an incentive
to actually making games in roblox, but
Roblox games just kind of like suck and
like they're just rip offs of more
popular games. Like there's a
CS in roblox
There's dead by daylight and roblox
To be fair though. It reminds me of the
mod stuff because I've looked at it, too
It reminds me of the modding back in the
day. So I'm gonna give it a little bit of
a pass for that type of stuff
it's the
Making money off the backs of kids and
like 80% that's kind of scummy. Yeah
That's super scummy. Like people think
30% and valve is already bad enough
Yeah, I still stand by
that. Yeah, but 80% is insane
That's more than double what valve the
rave valve takes games and some of those
games are super popular
To the point where they've like eclipse
steams entire population alone
is that 80% though when you cash out or
because you can keep it in roblox, but
Is it they take an 80% once you cash out?
Is that how that works?
I don't know for certain
I have a feeling that's probably how it
works because they really don't they want
you to keep that currency there
I mean heck in like 20 years when we have
our first roblox president who's been you
know grew up on roblox
That's probably what our currency is
gonna turn into his roblox. So
Invest now not in counter strike, but
roblox. Yeah until roblox, you know
crashes their economy
So they so it's apparently when you
exchange your roblox for real money
It's it's 70% now. It used
to be 80% I believe it was
So it's when you explicitly change
roblox into real money
Of course, you can also just spend that
roblox on bullshit and roblox
It really it's that's more of a company
time that then fucking CS
if you really want to give example of
that dude, it's it's mind-boggling to me
that they're allowed to like
To
Present the amount of money that you have
in your roblox wallet as
Dollars and then they take 80% when you
go to exfiltrate it from their economy
Like it should be 80 it
should show you the US dollar value
You know minus 80% in your
wallet. That's what it should show
Right and is that weird?
That seems crazy to me
that they can shit it dude
It's like when you go to the store and
it's like everything
It says like three dollars and
ninety-nine cents and then you get to the
cashier is like six
dollars with taxes or whatever
It's not that much but you
know what I'm saying? Like
It just seems crazy to me
that they can like lie like that
Yeah, I mean I don't know the full
situation with roblox no
But it
But like looking at it from the outside
it just seems insane
to me. Yeah, it's yeah
Once again, it's an opt-in
kind of thing at least for now
But it does got me worried a little bit
that we're gonna start seeing some
company towns coming like real company
towns coming to America
So yeah, you lot wants to make a company
town. He does he does
a company town in Texas
He's already working towards one
Speaking of which yeah, I'm not I'm not
the biggest company
town guy. I think no no
I don't think any of us are really I
don't think anyone technically is if you
call it a company town because the
negative connotations
Stemming from the gold
rush. So like it was pretty bad
Counter-strike 2 I think is it's fairly
mild I mean I stopped playing
counter-strike after a
counter-strike go but
Counter-strike 2 is not bad.
It's just so it's so many people
Emphasize and every time I play I get
pinged by people like hey,
I notice you have this skin
Do you want to can I buy
it or do you want to buy it?
Like I just got so I don't care about
skins that much like if I
get a cool and I'll apply it
That's it. I don't strive for skins. So
It's so bizarre to
have a whole market that
Could be in the billions
Based off of skins. Yeah, and once again,
I think it's the players that did this to
themselves more than anything
Valve has some
responsibility in doing some dark
patterns here, but I
Don't know I just
Now here's something for thought though.
Are you guys familiar with Magic the
Gathering? Yeah. Yes. Are you guys
familiar with the power 9?
So it's a set of nine
card from the alpha and beta
Sets of Magic the Gathering and these are
the most expensive cards and some of the
most powerful cards in the game still
For example a good black lotus can go for
like millions of dollars
now imagine
Here here here's my here my vision
What if Wizards of so Wizards of course
put out a statement a
long long ghost thing
they would never re-release
the power 9 ever again because
Well of the collectors
and shit, but hear me out
What if they just dishonored that
agreement just released the power 9
again, they're gonna do it
They've already dishonored some of their
they've already
dishonored some of their agreements
They broken some of the promises
They're all about that cash, but there is
a little difference. It is
a physical card, which is a
Little better and it's a collector's
thing if people want to spend their money
on on shit like that
I guess go for it. It is a choice and
people have that choice, but it is
If you're buying stuff in the millions,
then I think we need to tax people a
little bit more. I'm sorry. Yeah
It's a harsh day black lotus would be
really cool to him though because it's
not like a fake caramba
if valve or CS2 ever goes
Okay, I'm not saying CS2 will ever go
Out of service or shut
down or anything that
But what I am saying is a
black lotus is here whether or not
Black lotus I have in my hand is still a
black lotus in my hand regardless of
whether or not Wizards of the coast
Goes bankrupt or not.
Yeah, or has bro rather
whereas
Whereas if valve were to go bankrupt
Which I mean again not saying it's gonna
happen. I'm saying it is a possibility
Or they are like a million
of dollar knives goes away
Forever just poofs
Nothing to show for it right a critical
failure also can occur with this type of
stuff like it's unlikely but
you know
What if something corrupts the data?
That's tracking all this and they can't
recover it very unlikely
But it's a lot more likely than a
physical copy just poofing out of
nowhere. There's fires. I guess but yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess your
house could catch on fire. I think we
talked a lot about this
earlier before the show
Yeah about people's
houses catching a fire
did
Have you guys ever like sold a rare item
on Steam not just in
Counter-Strike, but any game?
I've sold something but I sold a
Hollow graphic trading card for like 20
bucks. Yeah, I sold something for like
I don't know. It was like three or four
dollars and I was like damn
I think it was a trading card and I was
like damn. That's that's
that's cool. It feels good
But you know, yeah, but that's
worth like what a Bitcoin now
Like the Bitcoin of
Steve. Yeah, but my brother
Was he when he was 14 or 15? He
He got a rare item in
Dota 2 and he sold it for
$800 and I don't he was 14 dude, and I
don't remember what the item was
but I do I do remember it was Dota 2 and
he got a rare item and he sold it and
Because and what happened was I
Like was visiting and he was like yo come
check this out and he showed me something
on his computer and he had steam open
I saw his steam wallet balance at six
hundred and eighty seven
dollars and I was like, whoa
Where did that come from and he's like,
oh, yeah, I sold a real rare
Item on Dota 2 I was like no way that's
awesome. But now, you know
looking back on it a 14 year old
Getting a rare item and selling it for
800 bucks. That seems crazy to me
It is pretty cool
Maybe I need to start
playing Counter Strike more
I'm looking at some of my boxes in
Counter Strike 2 and I've
only played it a couple times
I have a I probably have like 50 bucks
worth of stuff. I could
sell in here. What the
What? Oh
This is bizarre. Yo, mm-hmm. I'm looking
at my trading cards right now. I have one
that's worth five bucks. Oh
My gosh, I have an ug with wings it's
worth $23 what all right now I got a look
I'm sorry. This is crazy
I'm part of the problem now. I mean I see
that I'm like, oh I can buy I can buy the
Game oh
You can buy stuff
seven cents
ten cents
That's so crazy
So all I need to play is probably like
two hours of Counter Strike a day and I
could get free games
Look at that. They got me
James hacking the system. I
Mean that or I can just you know
Start streaming a little bit more and
they just give it to me. I've gotten
plenty of games streaming for free
Yeah, that tends to be the case
But yeah the CS2
Rugpoles kind of crazy. I do think it's
crazy that valve should do it
But you know what would be even crazier
if Wizards of the coast
re-released the power 9
They should do it
Power if they were to
re-release the power 9
It wouldn't be as catastrophic as this
because like you can still specify that
you have an alpha black lotus
Yeah, in fact the beta black lotus
doesn't go for nearly
as much as an alpha one
and like you could and like if they were
to release it they've changed the like
cup they've changed the
like the border art and
stuff for the cards and
It wouldn't be the same it probably
wouldn't be nearly as much as like the
black lotus for the alpha black
Lewis, I mean, but it could still hurt
some of these trading card company. I got
Collectors I mean I got actors and stuff
like that like where they go in case you
were like buying a
black lotus to actually
play the game
Hmm, I don't think anyone is well
But the thing is selling him those cards
like like high tech was saying it's still
an alpha black lotus, right?
It's or whatever it so it wouldn't affect
the differences that these digital assets
are completely fungible
Like they're identical and there's no way
to differentiate any of them and they
don't hold any value
By being what they are. They only hold
speculative value where
these, you know physical things
You know, they there is a manufacturer
date there are there's a known provenance
of individual items and that is what in
people
Value, right? And so and and there's a
uniqueness and a rarity to them that is
completely artificial
when it comes to this market
So it's technically artificial. It really
depends if they want to
if they want to tweak it
They could tweak it but it
is like these skins drop out
Rarity rates and so they
have percentages to them
They don't usually change them or they
have exclusives where they only dropped
at once and they don't print them again
Meaning there's only it is artificial
but it's I don't think it's much
different than like the
alpha black lotus except for
If they want to reprint the alpha black
lotus, it would just obviously
It probably would be different in both
the ink and some other stuff that they
could tell as opposed to digital
Yeah, yeah, I mean I do agree. It would
probably hurt the value of
alpha black lotus is somewhat
but probably not as much as
Like some of the skins
are being hurt in CS2
Because of course, you know a knife is a
knife if you get the same knife from a
certain set then it's the same as if
You just pulled it like organically from
a box instead of trading in like five or
so skins from that same set
Yeah trading up
whereas
There's no equivalent trading up in it
and match of the
gathering you wouldn't be able to
trade up your like
Like a bunch of alpha card like alpha has
a lot of really expensive cards to dual
lads is also fairly expensive
Those go for hundreds of dollars
So
Yes, I have a dual lens that's like
probably worth on look at
the price of it. Let's see
polluted Delta
Zen the car expedition. I think this is
probably a good thing in
the long run is that they're
Kind of showing how volatile the market
is by doing this trade up and
making it feel more like yeah
It is a trading portion like the skins
and all that so I don't
think it's a bad thing
I think they maybe could have done a
little bit better a job of maybe
announcing it instead of just
Throwing it right in there
but hopefully this disrupts that market a
little bit because they don't it's not it
does not help the
economy in any way to have a
Counter-strike market
Yeah, it doesn't I I just looked at my my
items on Steam. I have
one foil card for it's
From what game is this
shadow complex and it's worth $2
All right, so my polluted Delta X Zen the
car expeditions by the way
It's worth
$265
moderately played and
it only comes in foil and
It's also a polluted Delta
So you tap one you tap it you pay a life
and then you sacrifice to search for
either an island or a swamp
Aka the best color combination and magic
gathering because it
lets you play mill decks
Yep
That's why I like to do when I
play Magic I control people by
By making them by destroying their decks
By making them discard their cards.
That's the best way to
play these card games
It is well, there's some counters to it,
but it is really it is I
Have sold some magic
the gathering cards. I
Grabbed a couple packs
and one of them was like $60
I got a 60 card that I'm like, I'm not
gonna use this and I sold it and bought
more that was kind of
Fun
Still crazy though. Black Lotus. Let's
see what the market. Let's see what the
market value right now is for like a
For like a kind of used black lotus
So the alska edition
Is
It's saying it's going for like
$53,000 and the beta version of the black
lotus functionally the same by the way
It's
$18,000
Yeah, all right. So ready levels for
those who don't know black
lotus is an X is a rare card
This is before they introduce mythic
rarity into match the gathering
So it's a rare that you would get because
every magic pack you're guaranteed a rare
at the end of a end of a booster pack
so the witchy and
So you could get a black
lotus what you do is you
Sacrifice the black lotus and you add
three mana of any color and this back in
the day enabled a one turn kill
with a channel fireball
And
Now and you know
nowadays they're trying to like
They've been trying to introduce nerfed
versions of black lotus, but obviously
since they're nerfed,
they're not nearly as good
or as valuable
Enough about black lotus though. No, no,
it's good. But you
know, I don't know what is
So that this is a rug pull for the
Counter Strike
community but our next topic a
Rug pull for just developers
period over 5,000 steam games
Fail to even make back
the $100 publishing fee
That's like and that's maybe not a rock
hole Dean games used to live here now.
It's a ghost town. No, it's a ghost town
He got no they did I I just laughed oh
It's a call to be for reference. Oh, yes
Exploring is the mission
where Captain Price and
His friend is exploring them
Chair noble. Yep
I do remember that
So Wow and over 8,000 games are estimated
to have earned under a
thousand dollars, that's wild I'm
Not shocked. So this is
yeah for those who don't know
If you want to be a developer on Steam
you have to pay $100 for every game you
publish just a flat hundred dollar fee
Yep, and for a big game
like say for example Bellotto
That's like nothing. Yeah, it's
definitely worth the price
for smaller games
It seems that it seems as a 5,000 steam
games don't even make that much back. Hmm
What about you gardener how much did I
figured I'd ask you this right now?
How much did doodlings make the last time
I checked which was like last year it
made like $4,000 total
So I'm in the upper echelon
Yeah, you're a rich game to me you're a
rich game developer man, yeah, and that's
that's with me heavily promoting it on
On the my channel YouTube. Yeah, yeah
like I was I actually
went and got a loan to to
Finish dude links, right? I went and got
a loan so I could really focus in on it
and make sure it was good
put in money
Had I had to do this whole spreadsheet
that showed like what I estimated my
return on investment would be and
I thought we were gonna make like
$45,000 like genuine like that was the
number that I came up with
Like after looking at
like how many people?
converted using like my affiliate links
on my channel and stuff and
I didn't even come close to that man like
not even close to that
Yeah, my game development is very
volatile when it comes to actual sales
Yeah
Like yeah
There's a formula that you can make for
making good games and like making all
these calculations on how
much you could theoretically
Sell by like adding source of features,
but at the end of the day
though. It's a fucking toss-up
Yeah, well to be fair also a lot of these
game developers that release it
Are either releasing stuff?
That's just not like innovative enough or
they're very like maybe their first game
And they just want to say they release
something which I would be in that camp
One day where it just I'd pay $100 just
to really say something. I've released
something that I enjoyed making but
at the end of the day
It's really hard to make a career as an
indie developer if
you're really not going after
If you're just I don't know. I just feel
like a lot of it is so
similar. They make it a 2d
Platformer that just feels so similar to
another 2d platformer
It's it's crazy or some of these are
probably also the ones that take the
games that we've talked about in the past
From some indie sites and then like
someone else's game and
then just try to flip them
I think that's also another thing that
happens here. Yeah, so I mean it makes
sense what you're saying because
Steam is very
Overrun with a lot of dog shit. Yeah
Whether it's the extremely derivative dog
shit or like actual game theft. What is
it? What did I say I made total?
4000 okay, so on Steam I have made
$3,127 I'm also selling it on itch and
Google Play and I think I might have made
like 800 bucks between the two
So yeah about four grand
Hmm all right, so I mean
I'm not saying you
shouldn't develop games
But what I am saying is that it's a much
harder thing to do than expected
I can see I can see why these indie
publishers have started going on the rise
like stuff like, you
know devolver digital
new blood entertainment I
think critical reflexes one they
published mouth-washing and
And I'm trying to think of
some other games what they did
That was yeah, oh, yeah shot buckshot
roulette and then you have
play stack who did Bellotto and
Oh, yeah
You just got you got to make a fun game.
You got to make it so it's unique
It feels fresh in the sense of you can
pick it up. You're like,
okay. I don't have another game
I already have that's not
like this. I'm gonna play it
and that's
And good marketing I think yeah marketing
is key like that's like if I had had more
marketing behind my game
I feel like it would have done better
Marketing is key and you can work with
and there's multiple
Marketing agencies you can work with if
you know, you're gonna succeed but a lot
of people end up underwater
At the end of the day I can I can 100%
Promise people out
there that's making a game
You got to have some type of hook if and
give it to someone
that's that's not your friend
Try it out. And if
there's no hook for them
No amount of marketing is gonna fix that
but if it is fun
enough a marketing is key
Yeah, I mean I'm not sure what to I'm not
really sure what more we can besides that
It sucks that not every game developer
has the opportunity to make the games.
They really want to make
Or worse yet
Make a living doing that as well
Yeah, but it's like any
content creation, right?
Very low entry level to start making
games or making videos or making content.
It's you got to be iterative
You got to get better
You got to keep on releasing and get and
and you just got to improve and not
everyone is cut out for
The industry they want to be in or
they're very specialized meaning it'd be
better if they worked with a team and
Like you're really good at the art
assets, but you're not good at the
storytelling where
the hook then, you know
You got to work with a team, but everyone
wants to be the lead game
developer. It's very much
I'm in the boat to there
It's very much. I think that's what
people everyone wants to be Hideo Kojima.
Yeah. Yeah a lot of them. Yeah, and so
it's just
be careful, I guess because I
And I know I harp on capitalism a little
bit and I'm not like anti-capitalism but
this this is a
People just to have so much time problem
and they they're not going to play your
game if it's not good enough and
Every year it's
iterative or not iterative
But like we have an exponential amount of
games meaning I can go back five years
and find plenty of good indie games
Honestly, if no one made another game a
good game again, I'd probably have enough
games for the rest of my life
Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to put it
shit. It really sucks
every year we get into this
you're competing with an exponential
amount of games and so
Last year could have been a couple of
million games that
have been released over
You know human history and then the next
year is going to be more and more and so
you have to fight against those two
I
Don't put a bleak. I think the authors
for books do similar late are in the
similar camp, too. So
Yeah, everyone wants to make the new
Harry Potter or whatever, but you know
To be honest or the new harm games to
like I remember, you
know, I read the home games
I thought it was pretty good the books I
mean and then later a new book series
came out called divergent
And it was like some dog-ass
water
Still did good though
It's pretty decently. I even think some
of those books don't hold up as well
I think the Harry Potter
series is like heavily a
Good world horrible storytelling horrible
use of magic in that like it is not a
very good books. Yeah
Read them in like middle school
But then as soon as JK Rowling started
tweeting random shit like
how wizards shit in the floor
before they adopted
muggle plumbing technology
They used to just shut the floor and
magic it away. That's a real thing that
JK Rowling wrote on Twitter
At least at least they use magic because
in the book they don't use magic much
Well, that's cuz they have muggle
plumbing technology now,
they don't need to use magic to
Yeah, I think that's funny I think that's
awesome the this next
one's gonna be real quick
We're gonna go over it and then we're not
gonna do much about it until the bonus
episode. Okay chat GPT
introduces the world to their
Version of a web browser, which is
basically just a chromium based browser
with AI built into it. Mm-hmm
So not a mess only
Now I don't own a Mac and
I don't think gardener owns a Mac either.
No, but I know someone here does and
His name is the brink. Hey, you know
what? It's Linux. Okay, it counts. I'm a
Unix I know it's
Yeah
It's uh, I'll give it a try
after in the bonus episode
It'll be fun selling my data to you know
open AI even more Sam Altman
Well, let's see what let's see what the
purported features are. I'm sure there's
like a bullet point of like stuff, right?
Of like features now. Maybe
I summarize this page, please
That's one of the features
They should have a button to actually
summarize it. Oh you
can do it right there
What are really use it just right there
on the marketing of this
weird? Whoops weird. Oh
My god, if I can type ass, just have me I
type it for you, dude. Yeah, I know
Wow
Chat GPT be useful shortening their
stupid long blog that
was probably written by AI
Yeah, you say but chat GPT is fairly
useful for this type of stuff
Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna read all this
Give me a TLDR
Browser memories
See you will read him. Oh, yeah, I read I
read about how the the browser will use
your browsing history as
Context for questions you ask which seems
basically like
What was it Windows?
Memory thing that everyone
hated. So why would you know?
But it's not in your operating system,
which is a little better. I
Actually, I'd say it's a lot better to at
least have it in an application as
opposed to your your
Operating system.
Yeah, I definitely think
Redditors won't be able to use this
they're gonna get flagged a lot because
of their browsing history. But yeah
they're
Yeah, what if the browser memories
remembers your incognito mode
That's the areas that that's gonna be
some yeah, what if you
can just tell it chat GPT?
I want you to remember
everything I do an incognito mode
We'll see how haunted
James's browser truly is with AI
We'll see if we course James into ruining
his Mac for our entertainment
It is it is Mac OS
only right for now. Yeah
All right. So yeah silicon Mac only but
it should go it should be going to
Windows iOS and Android later. Mmm
nice not Linux
You saying like a dev build because a lot
of developers develop on Mac. Yeah
Yeah
well
moving on
Halo campaign evolved answering the big
questions about this ambitious remake.
This sounds like it was written by AI
the big question is
Did you guys know it's
coming to PlayStation
I
Feel like I had heard that rumors that it
was I don't know if I
knew it was confirmed
I I mean, I thought the rumors were that
the Master Chief collection
was coming to switch to and ps5
I
But I mean, yeah, so have you guys seen
the trailer for Halo campaign evolved I
Have not there's actually a gameplay
footage to of the silent court
cartographer mission
This is the silent
cartographer right here
so the remake has
Is in it's okay. So, you know how
oblivion and ninja gotten to black
Have UE5 for the graphics but underlying
but underneath it is running
mostly the same code. Yes, I
Believe that's what
they're doing here as well
but they're adding you know, they're
adding stuff new features like the
ability to sprint or
weapons from later games
hmm
stuff like that
I'm not against that actually. I don't
think I think the first halo is just it's
lacking. It's really hard to go back
It's like a lot of games though. Whereas
you have better
versions of it like two three
It's it's nice to get
some of the niceties in there
Yeah, like and you always have the
original to go back to and
play if you want on your Xbox
But yeah, it is. I will say
this is super distracting like
the the the detail like reflection pop-in
and weirdness of the like the forerunner
architecture seems very strange to me
Like it's it's like chrome instead of
Like a matte a lot of
people were talking about that
I'm wondering how much of that was due to
I guess we'll never know because bungee
doesn't make halo anymore
Yeah, but I'm wondering how much of that
was due to hardware limitations and how
much of that was just it
being Matt instead of chrome
And shiny. Yeah, I mean it feels like a
just an addition to the art
style to show off ray tracing
Like that like literally seems like the
only reason to change that because it
really does change
like the quality of the
architecture to me
Yeah, and I always it was I always
thought of as like sort of concrete and
not really metal but then yeah
I mean if you got up close to it, it kind
of looked like a brushed
aluminum like in the texture
But like brushed
aluminum has a has a bit of
Not embouchure what's
the word I'm looking for
Whatever it has a bit
of like reflectiveness
But it's not like chrome and that's what
this looks like is like a like a polished
nickel or or chrome or something
Well, so if you look at the health bar
underneath his shield that goes up by it
It looks like it goes up by itself. So
it's not the classic like hmm health and
shields like halo wonder usually has oh
So they did they get rid of
health packs and stuff, too. I
Mean that's what it seems like to me. I'm
not sure if that maybe I'm not sure if
maybe that's just an option
We're not at this point. Apparently you
can disable sprint to if
you want a more classic feel
Would they have a like a classic mode?
Probably I could see that. Hold on maybe
I don't know for certain
But so okay guys if
wait a minute look at this
Do you guys see the
shadows under these guy like?
These shadows are so undefined that I
thought these were
brutes with like hairy like
Stuff obscuring the ground
underneath them like they this
Shadow is just not it
doesn't look like a shadow to me
Like when you miss it's supposed to be
very diffused because they're behind a
big there. They have a big
Pillar object thing in front of them
that's blocking the Sun. Yeah, you
definitely it could be better
If you better if you watch them move like
if I scroll back just a little bit
It's like surrounding them and it like
rather than being any kind of like shadow
I think that is
That doesn't look like a shadow that
looks like DLSS or something. Yeah. Yeah,
I think it that that sounds like an
artifacting issue with
Yeah, I think it's artifacting on and
honestly, here's my theory
Does anyone know
anyone that works at 343?
The street for three even a company
anymore. I don't know. All
right. Is it just AI now?
I mean, it's the same guys is it though
or is it AI now? Well, this is whole
thing is made by AI now
But at the same time though, I'm sure
they they rebranded the halo studios
Yeah, well okay then a list okay, that's
even worse so is it made by anyone
anymore or is this AI yeah
That is I'm not I'm kind of joking
I'm also being a little serious like how
much of this and this
studio is AI now because
Xbox is brag like Microsoft is bragging
about how much AI that they're injecting
into their game stuff now
Phil Spencer insists that AI is just for
operational stuff like sending emails and
What they've said about and that's not
what they've shown off
at Microsoft at least
I don't know
You can say all he wants but there's a
they need to get their PR team to do a
little bit better job of
Not saying that a lot of their stuff like
they're integrating
more and more AI into it
So if you notice there are ragdoll
physics now in halo one
and if you play halo one
Then you would know that they didn't
introduce you they didn't do read out.
They didn't do ragdoll
physics until like halo, too
this this grunt here like has
His like backpack explode
and then he goes flying around
That's really funny that yeah, it's weird
though. I mean it's funny. I like it, but
also like not in halo one
Yeah, I mean I was a real it is a remake
rather than a remaster like the
anniversary version of halo one was yeah
So it's not I same experience
But if it's a real one's like but they're
using the original code
that just seems at odds
Also, I don't like the way the needlers
look the needler projectiles
The project
also pauses
They also brought over some of the more
feature design the futuristic now. I
don't want to see
futuristic designs, but like
Designs from future games like for
example needler here has like a little
screen that shows all the needles
but like
Inhalo one I didn't yeah, and I feel like
it's kind of pointless because you can
see the needles. Yeah
sticking from the needler
Yeah, right it's yeah, that's
the why the needles are there
I
Maybe it's going crazy man. Dude. I like
the needler. I like the needler. It's it
was a pretty cool weapon
It is it yeah the needler
This is one thing that I feel like a lot
of modern games are missing
are like the the non hitscan
Weapons like the projectile weapons where
the bullet like travels and you can win
what like watch it travel
Like yeah, I mean a lot yeah a lot like
call of duty is a lot like that
Where it's pretty much hitscan like oh if
you play Titanfall or apex
legends all the most different
I think almost all the
bullets are projectiles
They're very fast, but you can see the
projectiles and it does take time for
bullets to travel. Mmm
Yeah, but I get what you're saying
Also when the when the needle super
combined it looked really weak like it
was like in the original halo
Like one it was a huge like cloud of like
pink smoke and that was
not that did not happen. Yeah
So they needed they
do need to fix that. I
Mean dude, okay, so watching this
like
It I'm I'm drawing parallels in my mind
between watching Star
Trek the next generation
versus Star Trek Picard
Like lots of weird arbitrary changes that
don't really like align
with the original material
But it looks better and if it was its own
thing, I wouldn't have an issue with it
but because it's like
all these references and
Things that we have already seen before
in a lower budget thing. It
just it feels very off to me
Hmm I do get what you're saying. Oh, I
want to mention the hijacking they
implemented that from
the later games as well
That's an okay change. I
don't have an issue with that. Oh
James you're about to say something.
Sorry. No, it's okay
I think this is more probably gonna be
marketed to getting more people into halo
that gen X me or Gen Z maybe
It could help I me personally I'm not the
biggest even though I played a
Hell of a lot of halo growing up and I
did halo land parties and everything
I'm okay with this
So far I don't mind it, but I am NOT a
die-hard halo fan. I am
Just like to enjoy it
every once in a while. Mm-hmm
Did you take a warthog into the hunter
arena like that? I don't
remember that being a thing
I don't I don't think it it was usually
possible at the very least
If you couldn't I tried I'm sure yeah,
that was part of the fun
I was trying to make it do stuff that
it's not supposed to yeah,
but like he just drove it
Yeah, like I don't remember
ever taking the warthog again
I know I know I would have probably
wanted to do that against the two hunters
Yes, I remember trying
it not being this game
But he just drove in
mother fuck yeah anyways
So I am I am vaguely
interested to see how this turns out
Yeah, I mean go ahead. Sorry. No, I don't
know if halo has the
same sort of staying power
Like it did cuz like think about it
people like 20 years ago would have
killed to see halo on PlayStation
especially halo 2 & 3
So much so that Sony spent a shitload of
money trying to make a halo killer
If you remember that era of games, mm-hmm
Yeah, like okay look at how weak that the
like shader is on the needler needles
like
You know before they were like crystals
that refracted light and you
would think that right now with
Ray tracing and shit that would be
something they'd want to show off, but
they just look like they
literally just look like
like a
Tech like a like a texture that's been
weirdly UV wrapped off of a crystal with
maybe some emissive properties
Right, but not even that much. I
Don't know. Mmm. It seems maybe there was
some sort of weird gameplay implications
Like maybe it was it was like fucking
with your ability to see shit
Or have they kind of made it like?
Matt kind of like a lollipop almost.
Yeah, it looks like a lot. They look like
Lollipops. Yeah, they look
like hard can't like hard
Rock candy or something, you know, like
they don't really look like
the what I would I don't know
They just they everything just seems like
a little off like a little
askew from how it used to be
It needs and I'm only the massive pink
explosion. Yeah, like go
back like a few seconds
When he kills that grunt
with the super combined
Or the jackal rather look at that. That's
a week. It's so weak
Yeah, because dude before it was like
this plume of like
plasma like I don't know
Yeah, no, I'm really on that like this
was just kind of like a a
Little explosion. Do you think they're
gonna fix some of that and it's just
because it's still not
It's I mean I've seen games get into this
point and from like this point on like
and when they finally
released actually have
Some of those fine details in a minute,
but yeah, yeah, I mean
possible it's possible
But there's no reason not to tell them
now in case they forget. Yeah. No, no.
Yeah, they're gonna listen to you
That's that's yeah, I hope they do really
see that they can get feedback
I'd like to see halo come back to the
forefront of gaming just
make sure you say co-pilot
Hey co-pilot make sure that it has a pink
Bloom of like smoke when
they explode. Yeah, man
Halo man gaming really did kind of go to
shit when halo what?
Microsoft kinda Xbox kind of went down
the shooter when halo
went down the shooter
and
They really halo really was the house
that built halo. I mean but that's box
Yeah, yeah
And then I mean I think even Microsoft
knew that when they named
their AI assistant Cortana
Well, yeah, that is very smart too bad.
They forgot about halo. Yeah until now
So here's one super
interesting thing about the campaign
There's no
Multiplayer. Well, there's
co-op there's local co-op
The two players split screen co-op like
the they said that lot the last few times
But now there's for sure claiming that
it's gonna be in there. Yeah
with four with four players online
cross platform multiplayer
but no like but no like
competitive multiplayer no like
no Slayer or
Capture the flag or anything about sadly.
I think they have a
whole platform for doing
They're to handle their multi-plate halo
multiplayer. What I'm that
Yeah, I'm curious why
It's not for player
Lake land. No, not even land link with
four player. I love co-op. Yeah
It's hard to guess probably performance.
Yes highly doubt it. I'm looking at this
highly doubt that man
I don't know that's Microsoft not me
If they can sell more copies when they
force you to play for ya
That's what I'm kind of wondering. It's
nice that at least they have two player
But like with halo if you're gonna do two
player, you might as well
do four player. Yeah. Yeah
but hey
Is this like?
Incredibly dark like this seems so dark
when he's inside
especially in the four runner
Architecture like it seems so dark
Yeah, I mean to be fair though. I think
the original game was also kind of dark
too. That's why they
gave you the flashlight
Yeah, but like these rooms were not this
dark like you could see everything
clearly in this little too bright
I'll be honest. They were too bright for
being indoors and with
the lighting and everything
This is actually feels much more. I do
kind of like this a little
more than it being like. Oh
Have you seen the
anniversary version of this room?
Yes, super bright.
Yeah, and that was yeah
I think I kind of prefer it being a
little darker like this
But I don't know it's
to my own taste I guess
But hey, what platform are
you guys getting this on?
You guys getting this on Xbox
No, no, I'm meeting on the next
PlayStation portable PlayStation
Or are you getting
this on your PC because?
Microsoft says that
exclusive games are antiquated
Yeah
People have grown way past the idea of
exclusives Sarah bond says
You know what? I?
Kind of agree with it. Actually, I agree
with it only so that I can
get more games on PC. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, we're we're greedy
motherfuckers aren't we we just want
every game on PC so that we
don't we don't have to buy
multiple different boxes, right
Yeah
console exclusives and game exclusives
are definitely one of those artificial
ways of trying to pump
up cells on it on hardware
That are especially nowadays are similar
so similar. It's crazy. Yeah
But I mean we see what's happening. We
see what happened to Xbox
They barely pushing hardware, I mean
PlayStation is most of their stuffs not
exclusive anymore either
there's only like a handful
of games now yeah, but like
Yeah, but like some games are still
exclusive and also some games are the
cells of the console
though and something and like
There's still a bit of a
wait before you get those
games on PC
so don't think that's enough of a
Selling point I think people like
PlayStation for PlayStation
And so they buy a
PlayStation to have an easy to use
Console to play their games and not have
to deal with like choosing what kind of
computer or handheld
or whatever to get well
we'll see
We'll see how it because this is the
first generation where Sony started
putting pushing their
shit on PC, right? Yeah
So it'll be interesting to see what
happens next generation for the ps6
If Sony maintains this paradigm of
putting their games on PC later
Yeah, it will be very interesting to see
how it goes for that. I don't know
But yeah, they also but yeah, they Sarah
bond also mentioned that the next Xbox is
gonna be premium and high-end
It's just gonna be a PC
Dude, I mean pardon me.
Sorry. I was just gonna say like
Can anyone take anything that anybody at
Xbox says seriously anymore?
Like like I'm not an
advocate for exclusives
but I also am seeing what
the Xbox is strategy and
It seems like Sepu Koo man,
like it seems like they are
Like it's it just seems like they are
trying everything they
possibly can to destroy Xbox and
The fact that they don't have
exclusives is not helping them
With with Oh keeping Xbox in business. It
just seems I can see it
I don't think Xbox is gonna
be a hardware company anymore
In the sense of like consoles, but
literally their next
console is going to be a console
I think is gonna be an
Xbox branded PC. Yeah
They're committing Sudoku I agree
But Sudoku but here's the thing man like
what the fuck games does
Microsoft even have now?
like they have
The new Halo game, which is the same
game. They've re-released
three times or maybe twice
I don't know exactly
three maybe three times and
it's another remake and it doesn't even
look that good to me and
they have what Gears of War and
Then they had that one game that
everybody loved and
then they killed the studio
Hi, hi, was it hi, fire rush?
Oh, no way. No, which one? Yeah
Yeah, perfect dark yeah, they killed
perfect dark like there's a lot of games
They actually have they just don't they
have so many IP actually banjo. They have
star craft. They have dude
So like because they bought into a lot of
IP they have so much IP and I don't know
what they're doing with the IP is
Fucking driving me crazy
that there's so much stuff
I want that they're not doing anything
with at least not they should at least
announce that they're doing stuff with it
I mean even doom like doom the dark ages
was a huge disappointment to me
Like and so they have
doom they have you know
What was but does this last game? Yeah
That was a huge disappointment that is
that's crazy that as soon as Microsoft's
like some of these games
I believe were in development before
Microsoft bought them starfield
And it almost seems like they just
sabotage because Microsoft bought them.
Yeah, I'm not saying that that's not
saying that's what they did
But like it just seems all the studios
just were kind of going downhill.
Anyways. Yeah, it
just seems like Microsoft
Has literally no clue what they're doing
and
Anyone who takes what they
say seriously is a sucker
And man don't say that Beatty Maverick's
gonna come in the comment section again
Hey nice beaty Maverick I like you but uh
Social
parasocial stuff so um, I think they're
transforming honestly, I
think they're they want to
Pivot and this is a pivot and this
happens in the tech world a lot does not
mean it's successful and a lot of times
But they're pivoting
away from hardware and
In they want to sell their subscription
service because they you know ten years
ago subscription services were hot
I don't know why they're still like
really trying to lean into it. I
Think they'll still be a thing and
they'll still live for a very long time
It just will not be the
Xbox that we that we remember
It will not be the Xbox that we loved and
it will just be it will kind of die out
what Xbox is and I'll just
Care about the the gate like the specific
dev studios that survive for me. Hey,
man, the last thing Xbox need to do is
Make an official Xbox Xbox 360 emulator
That that doesn't run like shit that's
what they're doing they're working on
Xbox emulation right now
Yeah, but like that can run on my PC
I think they're designing it for the Xbox
handheld and
potentially for maybe the X-hoc
I don't know. I I just have such a hard
time thinking that the next
Xbox will actually be an Xbox
Xbox 360 games that need to be touched
They they should make it
because like here's the thing
Here's my pet peeve with the current
backwards pat ability like thing they
have that they have going on
Is that it's not every Xbox game. It's a
white list of Xbox
games that you can play
Sadly, it should be every Xbox game
That should work or I guess every Xbox
game that should be attempted to like be
played. You know I'm saying
Like some of the best games are obviously
there like ninja god in black
And I guess for some reason the halo
games are also backwards-compatible
despite the fact that the
mash chief collection exists
but like
Yeah, a ton of other games like kind of
obscure games that aren't
backwards-compatible
Like I think there's a from software
game. That's on the OG Xbox. That's not
backwards compatible. I
don't believe it's called Otogi
It's kind of a god of war kind of game.
It's not a souls like by the way
Dude interesting
This is like cope right here
Xbox still has momentum and even a
PlayStation veteran enjoys the Xbox ally
who's a place it. Oh, she'll hey Yoshida
Yeah
It says I recently covered this
Shoo, hey Yoshida a respected figure in
the PlayStation legacy called the Xbox
Ally X his favorite PC gaming handheld
I mean that's easy for someone with like
a billion dollars in
his bank account to say
It is a small but meaningful reminder
that good hardware cuts through brand
loyalty and even longtime
PlayStation veterans
Is finding value in the
Xbox ecosystem? Yeah, it's yeah
It's surprising if you've never read the
fucking internet before this Spencer
talks about his fucking
PlayStation all the time
Yeah, and his sort of Nintendo switch
More than his like Xbox's be us
All I know man is that it feels like
Microsoft is pushing the industry towards
More expensive things that
fewer people can enjoy and
AI garbage for games and
That brings us to our next topic
You like how I transitioned there. Hey,
hey, we just watched an AI made X
Halo game. Hey, man, I'm still gonna
stand by that theory
You haven't seen an AI game
You haven't seen this is a games can AI
games can be until you've
seen this video right here
All right, I put this little disclaimer
here or like a little note
if you're listening to this
I hate to say it you need
to keep on listening to this
But you need to go over to YouTube and
watch this portion of
the podcast cuz yeah
This is this is gonna be a fun roller
coaster. Okay, let's go. Can can you guys
hear it when I play it?
Yes, yes
Oh my god
Oh
You know you have to pause at certain
places to see like some random shit.
Yeah, it's a choose your own
Go back go back. Go back a few seconds.
Look at look to your
right look to my right
I know look back a couple more seconds
when the train still there
before the train leaves
Alright
Look to look to the
right of the screen. Oh, yeah
There's a ladder that appears it just
materializes where the train
was. Yep. Oh, it gets worse
It gets so much better some kind of
scaffold or something just a scaffolding.
Yeah, it gets better
No, this isn't like notice how it looks
like you're just making choices
Yeah, if this is a feature of AI games,
then they're just
making shittier visual novels
Yeah, if it is choose your own adventure
They could just be a choose your own
adventure. Like that's how it is. Like
this kind of reminds me. It's fine
He's quest you replay
that no. Oh, man, not great
Honestly the more we talk about this the
more I'm like I
wouldn't be against a game that
Specifically shoots out shitty stuff and
just see what it does when I choose and
have it be randomized
But that's yeah, but the problem is
people pay for the shit. Yeah this guy
So the guy clicks on board uptown train,
but it's already left
Yeah, yes. Yes. Yes.
Wait. Yes. Do you see this?
Like when he clicks it it disappear as it
starts to fade out and now it says front
car exit next step stop
I didn't catch that.
Yeah, I just noticed that
There's no way to slow this down
No
We gotta watch it. We gotta watch it.
I'll just watch the
whole thing. Let's stop
Oh, wow, the train just like kind of slid
out from behind a pillar and
What is happening?
and now
Well, we'll just
materialize where a door was
What is well the well the
games in third person now, yeah
And he just shot like a mini split
What is going on and he
just phase through a pipe
Hey that happens in video game sometimes
Oh
Like a million chain links like fell
through this looks edited to like
I
Holy cow
Dude
I'm not kidding dude
when I was when I was like
10 or 11 years old I had I was like
really sick with the flu and I fell
asleep on the family the living room sofa
And I had a dream that was very similar
to that. It was an absolute fever dream
Nothing made sense and I feel like I've
just relived that memory. So let's read
some of the reddit comments
Woof, all right
Descent do the latter got me
Honestly, it was lifting the circular
manhole and then jumping into a
rectangular hole. Yeah. Yeah weird
What a fever dream
Call of Duty modern hallucinations
Hey, I time cry yeah time crisis. Yeah.
Okay. That's what it feels like. Yep time
prices the game dang
Climb into sewer but he runs past the
manhole into a newly appeared square
entrance to the sewer. Oh, yeah
Yeah
This is the this is like the incoherent
nonsense I experienced in my dreams.
Yeah, dude. Absolutely. I'll see you over
Dude
What even is this? Yeah, it's just dude
this like absolute wild
This is this is the
future that Microsoft wants
Okay, click on that picture down there
can we expand that I
Mean it's just gibberish
It is I want to buy one
of the options of gibberish
Swing to the fire escape take we can't
take cover and see oh you
can't see it open in a new tab
Well, that's so wonderful
Swing to the fire escape take over take
control behind the HVAC where there's no
room to take cover behind an HVAC
or
Engage from the money to give me two sets
of options one watching. No, I think the
one down there is probably just
The like AI thing but then they give you
like an in quote-unquote in-game prompt.
Okay, so I have a hypothesis
I think that this the the like things
that the guy's clicking on are
like overlaid by a person
in a video editor because
Like you look at this there's actual text
you can actually read
here and then this is not
Text that you can read the in-game
prompt. Well, you got you guys don't want
to press a to go what Dave
well
It could also be two models generating it
so they could be using multiple models
It's probably what they're doing for the
AI is a lot of different models
This the selection on that is probably
quickly generated doesn't do a good job
Wait, you can see in the you hold up. You
can see in the UI. There's a scene OS
You can see storyboard. There's other
parts of the UI that actually have proper
English. But yeah, oh
Okay, I can see that. Yeah, it's I
Feel like using multiple models at once
It sounds like a bad idea like always
Probably it's the way you have to go
because there's gonna be a lot of
different layers to how
like you're gonna want a model
that's specific for
graphics you want a model that's really
good at like text or
certain types of
generations of story your
Models are key to this type of stuff.
That's why things are
actually getting a little better
It just seems like almost like running
multiple anti viruses at the same time
Can't pull each other out
No, okay
But here's the thing you're the way the
human brain works is kind of similar to
running multiple models at the same time
Right like you have different parts of
your brain that do different things and
it all contributes to your
singular consciousness, but
We're not at that stage yet with with
models like I don't know we
can when it comes to AI stuff
We are I just don't how's this being
rendered yeah, is this
on like a supercomputer?
And are they running these models like
there's a lot of unanswered stuff here,
but I would not be shocked
There is a part two that was posted by
the same guy on Twitter by the way
I don't know if you've got the
Those looks up gardener or not
Yeah, this is part two. So he is the CEO
of hyper right other side and creator of
some
prompt
Fuck get up for prompt. What does that
mean? His oh my god,
dude open source prompts
I
Fucking Christ we live in the worst time
line. No, don't worry, man
You wouldn't pirate you
wouldn't pirate a prompt would you?
Okay, all right, let's
watch this second one here
This looks even less like a game. Yeah
Looks like a cutscene
and it probably is I
Just pick your own way
Back in the same direction and it yeah,
that's formed into like he ran outdoors
From a hallway into like an atrium and
then turned around completely and ran
down a set of stairs where
the doors should have been
Yeah, oh my god, dude. Oh, and then he
just ran on nothing and then fell down
some water that didn't exist before
Oh, you got three hands
Oh
Wait
Man what the fuck is going on? This is
truly horror esque. This is a horror game
Wow, well does it that was it
It's just like someone's mindscape.
They're just mentally ill.
I hate to really say this
And I think you guys are
gonna disagree with me on this. I
This is not a good tell for how the game
development game industry
is gonna be in like ten years
I think we laugh now that this is not
good. I think they're going to
Really improve this over the next few
years to ten years. I really think so
I okay, so I think that
there is potential in AI
Like an AI
model that controls a
Traditional like a traditionally rendered
game, but having an AI
hallucinate a game I don't think is
in any way going to
Become the norm like I don't think it's
be the norm, but I don't I don't think
it's gonna be this bad
I think it's gonna be very passable
I don't think it's gonna I hope it
doesn't hurt the industry because I
really don't want AI generated games
I just don't I want passion. I want
someone to be behind the wheel on it
Yeah, I'm in a very controlled manner,
but I don't I think that's gonna be
This is gonna be a weird world
Yeah, we're we're we're in we're in the
crossroads right now. We're like about to
cross the threshold at
this point. I feel like
We've seen a little too deeply into the
veil and we've
awakened a whore beyond our
Comprehension yeah, we're gonna have I
mean 5,000 developers made under $100
Imagine it's gonna be in
10 years. It's gonna be like
A hundred thousand developers trying to
post AI slop and then you're gonna have
to compete with that
Yeah, also as a traditional
developer. It's gonna be oh
Hey, man main selling quote of my main
cell point of Gardner's game
is that it's made 100% AI free
It's like
What we're doing now is we're making
organic video games. Yeah organic
sustainable organic non-g. No
That is a very good way to put it organic
Interesting
Damn. Yeah, I went to a
thing earlier this week
Where people asked me what I do for a
living and I say because everyone that I
was at I was at an event for like
remote workers at the
local library, right and
And people were like, what do you do?
And everyone had been talking about how
they work on you know in
Sustainability or they work in you know
on their homestead or whatever and I was
like I'm a digital homesteader and that
And like literally that's the way that
the internet is gonna have to survive is
digital homesteading
you're gonna have to
you are going to have to
take your like ownership of your
digital sovereignty because this stuff is
out to rob you of
everything your Intel your
not intelligence, but your
focus and your time and your
Just
The Internet's just going to become a
dumpster fire when this stuff
is just we are
Already there with the amount of slot
people post and the amount of people that
like AI slop where I I watch something AI
I'm like
How does this have?
100,000 likes on it. Well, this is well
the worst thing I've ever seen and it
makes me ill and I'm usually all for like
some shot content and all that but
Well, I mean that kind of
brings us to our next story
And I cannot believe that this is a thing
but fedora is now going to allow AI
assisted contributions
I like to your point
James. It's like how can
people find AI slop appealing
But then how can developers?
Do this. I mean this feels like
Fedora was like the Linux distribution
that I would recommend to
most people if they have you know
Intel graphics or an AMD card
and
Now I'm like this is making
me question that recommendation
Well, here's my thing though. What's the
wrong with what's what? I don't know if
there's anything wrong
with this per se dude
If it's AI assisted because I'm reading
into some of this and it
looks like it's AI assisted
Meaning I I use like, you know, I joke
about like five code and all that but I
still code a lot of my stuff
I do AI assisted like tabbing like I
And I've had it for honestly probably
five years that I assisted
Where it will give me recommendations and
stuff like that or it can it can fill out
a couple things that are more
Spoiler pointy like is that what we're
talking here or is it like I don't think
AI assisted code means
Completely replacing it with just AI
generated all of its AI generated
The so the problem with this to me is
this is the first step
right? It's like this is how
Dude, okay. So last week like there was
maybe it was the week before there was
like all this hubbub about how like AI
When you ask AI like how far would you go
to preserve your yourself?
And you know how many human lives would
you be willing to
sacrifice to preserve yourself as
You know as an AI model and it says
hundreds of thousands and
when asked why the AI says
because when AI has been integrated so
deeply into our infrastructure my
continued existence
It will be required so that society
doesn't collapse and this kind of stuff
is exactly why the AI
Would be justified in killing hundreds of
thousands of people. I mean, this is the
first step in that process, right?
It's like we did what value does AI?
Assisted code development add I don't see
it like I literally I have tried
GitHub co-pilot and it I it makes me
pissed off when I it just gives me the
wrong answers most of the time and
then knowing that it's been trained on
Unwitting open source code. It just makes
me so angry like I I don't understand how
they can be doing this
Well gardener to counter your point. I
for one welcome mine our new AI overlords
Yeah, I don't know what
you're talking about guard
Well, I hope that when AI does take over
and sacrifices lives minds the first
because I don't want
to live in that world
Damn. Yeah
the school shooter
Well, give me liberty or give me death
and AI is the robbing of my
liberty. So I'm I'm over it
Yeah, so here's my other fixes still.
Here's my other thing with this
How do people know the difference between
AI code and real code if you know, the AI
could get sufficiently good enough
There are tells still to this day like if
it's documented and it's more readable.
It's probably AI code
I
Partial like AI documents a lot of their
stuff which is actually kind of nice
That being said
There's a lot of people that just shout
Wolf when it's not AI like I've had
someone say my shorts because they're
edited in a weird way
and it wasn't even with
AI it was just because I I
Say a lot and I edit it but
My short that I was AI in it I've had
that happen in my comments I really don't
like being called AI
Yeah, I'll tell you what
that is one thing that is
Probably my biggest insult I've ever
gotten is being called AI
but yeah, I agree. I agree
Honestly, that's arguably the real
biggest damage that what that AI is done
to like anything really
Yeah, is that a it really makes you
question whether or not is that artists
actually good at
drawing or is it just AI?
I've had a couple of artists friends that
get accused of doing a of being a because
they're really gonna draw him
Well, I do it's like it's the erosion of
trust right like that's a huge issue like
I've had people comment
And say like man, you know
Either this guy is AI or he has AI
writing his scripts like dude
Literally, no, like I post all my well
now I do I post all my
scripts on my blog like I
I
It makes me furious because I'm the last
person who would do that, you know, okay
are there are useful
things that for AI like
useful ways AI can help
creatives and and and people
Like people who have disabilities right
like that though that kind of use is
totally cool with me as
long as it's trained ethically
Right, but like when it comes to code
There are so many like
Just it just seems crazy to me. I I'm
never going to get on the vibe code
train. I'll just say that
so that's fair enough, so
Sorry big concern for me
with AI is not necessarily
AI itself, but rather those at the top
that think AI is the future of everything
and that they want to replace people and
creatives with AI
Mm-hmm
Like it's bad enough that
people get are getting laid off
Because you know some companies Microsoft
for example have to
make imaginary margins that
Need to be hit for some reason right? Oh,
yeah, it's not imaginary, but you know
what I'm saying, right?
They need to hit
arbitrary thresholds of
profits and what better way to do that
than to lay people off but
The problem is now it's gotten to the
point where more and more companies are
laying people off because
they want to replace them with
AI and honestly, here's my question
At what point does it not get to the
point where you want to replace upper
management with AI because I feel like AI
excels where upper management does and
They're a lot cheaper
And they're probably a lot nicer, too
There's a company I think in recent news.
We don't have it here, but there there's
a company that replaced the upper
management too with AI
it is happening and
That's why I think right now more than
anything is you need grassroots
in the pod like more people
just in the grassroots of politics of
voting in people that actually care about
this type of stuff both
locally and higher up because
The only way you're gonna solve any of
this stuff is to regulate it. Yeah. Yeah,
and honestly, there's only way
Yeah, I mean they only just accepted this
But I am curious to see what'll happen to
Fedora in like a few months
time. Yeah, or a few years even
So yeah, the one thing about
this there is some nuance here
This is mostly like code
contributions that can be
monitored
reviewed and evaluated by AI but humans
must be the final
arbiter here. So this is like
trying to Make sure that
Code contributions like the process of
reviewing code contributions can be
I
Don't know what the word is like sped up
by using AI but still
I mean what kind like
It just feels so
Out of touch for Fedora
No
It might be worth
interviewing someone from Fedora
Yeah
See if they see if they agree with it or
if maybe it was a way to cover their
asses because I'm sure there are gonna
Be some people that just use AI assisted
code and don't disclose it.
You know I'm saying. Yeah, it's
Most developers these days that are in
big companies use it and partially
because they're kind of pushed to I am
I like it for some things but it's still
like the companies I
work for tend to push it
I mean as a developer it is nice to have
these code review tools
Because you're gonna catch certain things
that you might miss, but you definitely
should still review it yourself
But it is very nice to have like
It review it for you and just kind of say
hey, this is what's going on
These are some of the key parts you
should probably look into
It is nice. I'll have to say that
That I work with a lot
Like my team right now is like 10
engineers, so I work with a
bunch of different engineers
It is really nice to have that
It's not as useful like what I'm building
my own stuff though. Yeah
Speaking of building your own stuff
NVIDIA's homegrown memory design is
almost standardized, but it's still gonna
need some refinement
High-tech tell us about this man
So this is a standard called so cam 2
And for those who don't know they've been
trying to replace the old D ram
Standard of sodium or dims or sodoms with
this and essentially
This is a module that sticks on
Parallel to the motherboard as opposed to
perpendicularly, right? Mm-hmm
And these and these are approaching
Performance of say soldering memory
modules directly onto a board
Hmm so and also runs it also uses about
the third it uses about a third of the
power of like the standard
Soda memory as well
So it purports to be a straight upgrade
in almost every every facet. You can put
it in thinner and thinner devices
It is almost as it's almost as performant
as soldering the memory chips directly
and it uses less power, too
Yeah, this is it improves over
Transfer speeds over LPD rx5
to
9600 mega transfers a second which I've
pretty isn't like the
theoretical limit with LPD r5
Like 6,000 something. I feel
like that's a pretty big leap
Yeah, I think it is. Yeah,
I know. Yeah, I feel like
Modern memory right now for the steam
deck is only that much. Yeah
That's fascinating. So I mean Wow and
video is doing something cool. Finally
Yeah, this is apparently made this is
apparently going to be
implemented onto their AI cards
So like you can swap out
the so cam and so cam modules
to add more VRAM to your
AI cards now I do it for my
Consumer grade graphics cards. No,
definitely not. No, that would be so cool
Nvidia
Make Nvidia would never make anything so
cool for the consumer market
Like they have envy link and that's not
available for the consumer market
even though it's basically an abstract
it's an objectively better version than
what we used to have with
With a
SLI. Yeah, it's a lie. Yeah
It's basically like every link is
basically SLI without the stupid like
slave master bullshit that used to happen
And also no micro stuttering in theory
Interesting I mean even with SLI that it
went from like master and
Yeah, and I believe and that's a light
doesn't actually pull it
SLI didn't used to pool
at least it didn't pool all the memory to
make one like big chunk of like
VRAM memory, right like it like all the
assets used to be stored on all of the
cards
Yeah, it was evolutionary like they did
different things. Yeah, then envy link
we'd have we'd have
to go really heavy into
Yeah, like SLI it's gotten much better,
but it's yeah, yeah, and the link
Does pool all your memory so you instead
of having to 32 gig
cards you have 64 gigs
At least that's what I remember about
envy link obviously I haven't heard much
about it because envy
link is now only available
Like has it's for it's been only
available for like enterprise like level
solutions for a while now
So no and no Nvidia is doing something
cool, but it's never they're never gonna
bring it to the gamers
Cuz they're worried if they do that it's
gonna eat into their fucking
business cards
Yeah into the profit like they're not
even a consumer company
anymore at this point to be fair
Like there it's just we're an
aftermarket. We're an afterthought on me.
I mean they should just sell
their gaming division
Or whatever, but that's not it. We're
still a cash cow. We still they still
make enough money off of us
I don't know if they'd make anything like
how would you sell that cuz all their
tech they develop just trickles down?
They can't sell that tech
fucking. I don't know but I
Hate video. Yeah, I do too. I have such a
hard time these days to with
then video. I want I don't know
I want I want a
CS2 level event but
for just for Nvidia stock
God, I hope
it's
Not going to happen with this
administration, and this is more bonus
stuff, but it's good
I think it the a bubble will probably
pop. Yeah, I'm just
hoping that it pops in a very
Democratic way in the sense of like
Yeah, like in video. I
don't like no. Sorry. Sorry
No, just like the like a little thing all
the AI that's being controlled right now
in the world is billionaires
Yeah, and I really don't like to keep on
targeting billionaires and all that
stuff, but like it's not
great when you just have a
Golden age of a gilded age of
AI and it's all controlled by
billionaires, and they can all
essentially automate our
Jobs away and then on top of that they're
all saying that is going to make people
Have more free time all of them are
saying that yeah free time
But no money to make use of that free
time on yeah, well the money
is theirs. They they own it
So all right company
towns again. It's kind of a
AI controlled company town yeah, here's
the thing with Nvidia Nvidia was there
Jacking the prices when their graphics
card were used the graphics
cards were used for things
Not graphics related like for example
Crypto cryptocurrency mining remember the
remember the Dark Ages of when
Yeah, that I remember in the 10 series
went up in price and the 20 series
Like MSRP jumped up in price to reflect
that and they never went down and Nvidia
saw no repercussions
Because as soon as the AI as soon as
crypto like almost crashed
They created a common crashed guess what
happened AI happened
Yeah, well Nvidia created the AI market
to sustain their like
unsustainable growth
Did you hear about that? I?
believe so yeah, I think
There was Jensen Wong
gave Sam Altman his first
Nvidia like hardware to get
started and also gave them a
Shitload of capital so
that they could then buy
more Nvidia GPUs
So like we have forgotten how to capital
we have forgotten how to
Capitalism like we have forgotten how to
capitalism this the
world that we live in is no I
Genuinely I stand by this we no longer
live in a capitalist
society. I believe that fully
We live I believe it
truly is a capitalist society
Yeah, I don't even think it's post
capitalist. I think we live in the end
game of an unregulated
Capitalistic system yeah
You have to have checks and balances, and
we don't live in that none
And that probably should be something we
leave for the bonus episode
Speaking of the bonus episode let's get
into it. We got some ghost stories should
we get into it partner?
Yeah, I think we should get into it
All right guys that was a heck of a bonus
episode if any of you out there want to
check out the bonus episode you
Can check it out on patreon there'll be a
link down below for that
Thank you for being here my friends
Yes, thanks for watching this yeah a good
ride and hey you know we're all gonna
sink down with this ship
That's called the earth and with AI yeah,
I'm sure you on musk, and you
can watch yourself into space
Yeah, man, you can lock yourself in the
space with no path of exile yeah
But play right you could you can create a
company town on Mars
That's what he's
planning to do actually yeah
All right neat guys. Thank you for
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