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Welcome to Off the Console, the
hottest podcast where we talk about

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gaming, tech news, and much, much more.

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I'm HighTechLowLife, your host for the
day, and I'm joined by our co-hosts,

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Gardiner Bryant and Games Revealed.

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Welcome,

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What's up?

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How are you guys doing?

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Doing well.

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How are you?

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Legion Go

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fine.

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Doing, doing fine, doing fine.

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So today we've got the Steam Frame again,
but then we've also got the Game Awards.

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We've got Xbox Game Pass coming
to Linux, Epic Games Store coming

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to Linux, and much, much more.

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So we usually start the episode
with, uh, what we've been doing.

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So let's start with you, Gardiner.

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What have you been doing this week?

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Oh man, I have been up to
a whole bunch of things.

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Uh, I've been doing some work for
clients of course, been playing a

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bunch of games, uh, because I have
put together my own DIY Steam machine

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you've, you've, you've, you're,
you're playing games now?

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I know.

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It's been, it's been fun.

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I, y- dude, I, I started my YouTube
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"I've been so busy with work, I just need
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And I know that if I don't do something
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games, then I won't, I won't ever do it.

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And now I'm back to that
square one, so, uh, yeah.

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So now, like, I put, I, I built a
Steam Machine and it's really awesome.

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It's got a, a Ryzen 8000 series, uh, CPU.

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Right.

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Wait, wait

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You mean 9,000, right?

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Or 7,000

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It, it's a Ryzen 9 8945HX CPU.

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It has 32 gigs of RAM, and it has a, an
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Uh, it's, it's a good machine, man, and
I've been putting it through its paces.

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Hell yeah.

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Hell

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I, I played, uh, Doom:
The Dark Ages on it.

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Surprisingly, uh, still a bad game.

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Uh, I did not… I don't like that game.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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But, uh, one thing, one thing that
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about was, um, that I was actually
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Uh, it's only around 50 frames a second,
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is, like, the, what it defaulted to
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So, um, and I'm not the kind of
guy to go in and tweak settings.

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I, I, I want the game to
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Um, so yeah.

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It's been, it's been interesting.

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I've been, I've played a bunch
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Like, Forza Horizon 6 works great.

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Um, gonna try Cyberpunk.

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Everybody's telling me to try
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gonna be the next game I try.

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Yeah, try Cyberpunk on it

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Man, it's, it… Yeah, I'm glad you have
a Steam Machine that you built your own.

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Now we have the full trifecta.

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two Steam Machines and, like, a
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Steam Machine in the room too.

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Now how much did that all cost you?

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Uh, so like I don't know exactly how much
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like the motherboard and the CPU and the
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so the only things I actually
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the, the 9070, which was like 800
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And then, um, I b- I bought the case,
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and then I, I, I got a couple fans.

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So like that's all I bought for this.

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So it was around maybe just under
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The rest came from review samples

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Couldn't imagine how expensive it would've
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Oh, I know how much it would've
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It would've been eight, uh, $1,856.

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Damn.

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Would you have paid that much

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No, I'm saving, I'm saving money
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Steam Frame when that comes out.

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about the Steam Frame soon

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and I'll be able to stream games from this
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Now, how about you, James?

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What if… Ooh, what is that, James?

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That f- the Franken Phoenix that I
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except for it's got… I have a PC
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has that 3090 in it, and it's,

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yeah, it's got, it's got the 9060 XT.

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I want- I, I went a little cheaper.

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It has DDR4 RAM in it, and it's got
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motherboard, but it's runs really well.

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Here's the kicker.

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kids use it right now.

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I actually the Steam Machine so I, I
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yours is much more powerful than mine.

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I went the mid-range route.

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Um, it is more powerful
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I don't have the CEC,
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Um, I'm gonna be

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Mm-hmm.

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on it.

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But it is still noisy, whereas the
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Mm-hmm.

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I'm, I'm ha- I'm struggling 'cause
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created as much noise or whatever.

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I had like… When I was younger, I
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sure it was cool enough when I was
running har- uh, like high-end hardware.

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Now I've flipped where I kinda like
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I can

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Mm-hmm

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down, I can play whatever I want.

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I've beaten a few games.

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I finally finished the
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I've put almost 50 hours
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Um, I've played the hell out of that,
and it's actually made me very lazy.

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I still need to come out with my
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I figured more time on it's,
yeah, more time on it is

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better than less, I guess, so.

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So you said you don't have
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I'm gonna buy one

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I, I bought one and, uh, setting it
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didn't work out of the box, but it
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it working, and that's all I'll say.

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I'll, I'll save the rest for my review.

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Interesting.

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sick

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eye on a CEC that's designed to just work
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Which one is it?

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It's some random one.

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I have to look

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Is it, is it the Pulse-Eight?

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Um, I don't think so.

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Yeah, no, it's, um, I haven't got that
part hooked up yet, but my son, the, he,

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I, I don't know why, but he li- he loves
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I'm like, "Hey, you have…" I
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He loves playing through that.

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I put it on the, uh, bigger one, the
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s- the s- the Franken Phoenix as I like
to call it, and he's like, "Well, I

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don't wanna play it w- unless I have
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build

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yeah

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g- get him one of those dongles.

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Well, actually, no.

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Well, actually, you can't buy
another Steam controller, can you?

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Nope, I'm still in the… I'll have to
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her in for a bid for it, but mine's
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So honestly, at this point, I really
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not because of Steam Controller
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It is, it's feels like a console.

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I don't have to… It's very quick.

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It, it has very low latency um, like my
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it up to the Steam Machine yet, but I
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Machine by pressing the middle button
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Machine or the Steam Controller you can.

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It's just, it feels like a console.

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I really like it right now.

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I go through phases like this, but yeah

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can wake the Steam Controller
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I haven't tried it.

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you do that, but you have to

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you can do that, but you can do it.

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Guys, spoiler alert, I got my Steam,
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an external, like a USB Bluetooth,
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um, with the, with the DualSense

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external, external… Wait, what?

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So there's a, I have a Bluetooth
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doesn't have Bluetooth on it, right?

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What?

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I, yeah, so I plug in a YouTube, U-
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And I paired my DualSense with that
adapter, and I was able to get the Steam

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Machine that I built to turn on just by
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There you go.

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I have not tried anything like that yet.

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My, my Pl- Pl- my PlayStation…
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It's right now paired with my
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even if I plug it into the it
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So there's like sync to both.

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It's really weird.

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un-sync it from the pl- uh, the Mac.

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'Cause what I'll do is I'll stream
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my Mac while I'm working, w- uh,
while I'm doing some other stuff.

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and so yeah.

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I'll play games sometimes, uh, on my Mac.

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I just gotta, I don't know.

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Man, I've been, I've been playing
the hell out of my Steam Machine.

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I've been doing a lot of
experimentation with it.

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I've been, I've been working on my Steam
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guess in a sense I haven't been doing too
much actual, actual, like, deep gaming.

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I've been doing a lot
with my Steam Machine.

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I enjoy it, and soon it's about
time to make a review on it,

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Mm-hmm

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and it's gonna be one glorious time Uh,
that said, uh, there are some new games

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that are on the horizon that I'm really
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on the Steam Machine, like, uh, Phantom
Blade Zero and, uh, Kingdom Hearts IV

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actually got a trailer very recently.

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And, uh, I got… I kind of have
a soft spot for Kingdom Hearts.

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Can't wait for it to come out.

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So n- so I'm sure you guys aren't
familiar with, like, Kingdom Hearts

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as a whole, but I'm sure you know
the, like, basic concept, right?

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Yeah, you explore.

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we're gonna do a fun little experiment.

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What Disney worlds, excluding
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s- 20th Century Fox, and, uh, Star
Wars, what Disney worlds do you

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think they'll put in this game?

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Besides Coco, since that's been confirmed

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Emperor's New Groove.

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Oh, that would be a good one.

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Hmm

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That would be a good one.

240
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Surprised they haven't done that yet.

241
00:11:13,971 --> 00:11:17,141
Uh, yeah, that's, that's a hard one
'cause I don't even-- they don't

242
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even do original IP as much anymore

243
00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:21,330
I mean, they have some.

244
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They have, uh, Moana.

245
00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,670
That's over 10 years old at this point.

246
00:11:26,099 --> 00:11:29,469
Moana's over 10 years… No,
no fucking way, Gardiner.

247
00:11:29,758 --> 00:11:31,628
Uh, pretty sure, my dude.

248
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It was like 2016

249
00:11:32,929 --> 00:11:33,809
hold on, hold on.

250
00:11:33,819 --> 00:11:34,829
Let me look this shit up.

251
00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:36,599
There's no way.

252
00:11:36,939 --> 00:11:37,949
There's no way.

253
00:11:38,949 --> 00:11:40,349
Yeah, 2016, man.

254
00:11:40,509 --> 00:11:41,659
That's 10 years old

255
00:11:42,218 --> 00:11:44,688
Oh my, Moana's 10 years old at this point?

256
00:11:46,091 --> 00:11:48,731
I just shattered his entire world, dude.

257
00:11:49,482 --> 00:11:50,832
Oh my God.

258
00:11:52,002 --> 00:11:56,072
I generally try to stay good with
knowing what's old and what isn't old.

259
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'Cause like some people will still
say like Super Mario Bros. is

260
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like years old at this point, when
it's actually closer to like 40.

261
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It's over 40, yeah

262
00:12:04,032 --> 00:12:04,492
Yeah.

263
00:12:04,612 --> 00:12:08,802
But like, oh no, Moana's
40 years old at this

264
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Hi-Tech, can I, I, I need to let you know,
you're, you're the youngest by a, a bit

265
00:12:13,669 --> 00:12:16,149
here, and it only gets worse for you.

266
00:12:16,369 --> 00:12:18,559
This is, it's just gonna
keep getting worse.

267
00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:19,579
Yeah.

268
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the start

269
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Dude

270
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Oh

271
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Oh, no.

272
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Oh, no.

273
00:12:25,228 --> 00:12:29,318
But anyways, from that though,
Moana's… Oh, Zootopia's

274
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probably gonna be in there too

275
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I could see Zootopia, yeah.

276
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I can see Zootopia.

277
00:12:34,917 --> 00:12:35,267
All right.

278
00:12:35,327 --> 00:12:39,467
What non-Disney IP would you
wanna see in Kingdom Hearts?

279
00:12:40,388 --> 00:12:40,718
Like,

280
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Doom.

281
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You know what I was thinking?

282
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The Naked Gun

283
00:12:46,377 --> 00:12:46,957
Yo, they

284
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Gun.

285
00:12:47,837 --> 00:12:48,467
The Naked

286
00:12:48,784 --> 00:12:49,324
What?

287
00:12:49,462 --> 00:12:49,802
Yeah.

288
00:12:49,887 --> 00:12:51,407
Disney owns a lot of stuff, though.

289
00:12:51,407 --> 00:12:52,697
You'd, you'd be surprised at how

290
00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,330
Yeah

291
00:12:53,467 --> 00:12:53,757
owns.

292
00:12:54,632 --> 00:12:54,902
yeah

293
00:12:55,047 --> 00:12:58,577
there's a very solid chance that Disney
or some studio under Disney… Oh,

294
00:12:58,577 --> 00:12:59,987
they could put, like, Predator in there

295
00:13:00,352 --> 00:13:00,732
Hmm.

296
00:13:00,982 --> 00:13:01,892
Roger Rabbit

297
00:13:03,057 --> 00:13:04,807
They own Alien and Predator.

298
00:13:04,947 --> 00:13:05,117
Did

299
00:13:05,138 --> 00:13:05,478
Mm-hmm.

300
00:13:06,387 --> 00:13:06,937
Disney

301
00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:07,410
Yeah.

302
00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:07,840
The

303
00:13:07,988 --> 00:13:08,378
Yep

304
00:13:09,097 --> 00:13:09,607
Dude, they can

305
00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,490
would be pretty cool

306
00:13:10,587 --> 00:13:13,717
put Alien and Predator in Kingdom Hearts.

307
00:13:13,717 --> 00:13:14,757
Dude, and The Simpsons.

308
00:13:15,517 --> 00:13:16,407
That'd be kinda crazy.

309
00:13:16,416 --> 00:13:17,656
Yeah, that would be wild

310
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All

311
00:13:18,656 --> 00:13:20,096
hope they don't do The Simpsons

312
00:13:21,137 --> 00:13:25,717
uh, but yeah, uh, speaking of wild,
we're about to hit 1,000 subscribers, so,

313
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Oh, yeah

314
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on YouTube, so if you, uh, if
you enjoyed our content, our

315
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channel, please do us a favor.

316
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Go on our YouTube channel and
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317
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318
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And, uh, or if you wanna check us
out, or you can also continue to

319
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watch us on the, uh, audio feed.

320
00:13:41,807 --> 00:13:43,627
There's a bunch of different
places to watch them.

321
00:13:43,637 --> 00:13:47,017
You can watch them on your favorite
podcasting service, you can check

322
00:13:47,017 --> 00:13:51,387
out our new website, uh, well,
fairly new, offtheconsole.com.

323
00:13:52,107 --> 00:13:56,377
Look, we've even got, we've even
got, uh, all of our episodes here.

324
00:13:56,457 --> 00:13:57,307
Isn't that crazy?

325
00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,700
It's slowly coming together, guys.

326
00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,900
I'll have a feed in it too.

327
00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:04,960
I don't think I have it tied
yet, but I wanna sync them, so.

328
00:14:05,850 --> 00:14:09,080
Meaning like the episodes you
can see both side by side.

329
00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,140
Right now it's just the,
it's the, just the audio.

330
00:14:12,329 --> 00:14:12,579
It's

331
00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:12,820
But

332
00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:13,559
man.

333
00:14:13,659 --> 00:14:15,089
Props to James for this.

334
00:14:15,819 --> 00:14:16,979
He really kicked ass.

335
00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:19,220
Dude, I love that thumbnail

336
00:14:20,489 --> 00:14:20,679
With

337
00:14:20,867 --> 00:14:21,007
Ja,

338
00:14:21,069 --> 00:14:21,769
the, uh

339
00:14:22,769 --> 00:14:23,589
Yeah, esports.

340
00:14:23,639 --> 00:14:24,539
This is the game.

341
00:14:25,539 --> 00:14:25,679
Ugh

342
00:14:25,927 --> 00:14:26,387
Yeah.

343
00:14:26,387 --> 00:14:29,287
Yeah, it's pretty good.

344
00:14:30,297 --> 00:14:31,137
Oh,

345
00:14:31,193 --> 00:14:31,293
we

346
00:14:31,417 --> 00:14:31,627
yeah

347
00:14:31,923 --> 00:14:33,003
address the comment or not,

348
00:14:33,851 --> 00:14:34,661
Was there a comment?

349
00:14:35,163 --> 00:14:37,473
No, the, the comment I showed
you, Gardiner, remember?

350
00:14:37,661 --> 00:14:38,511
Oh, yeah

351
00:14:38,813 --> 00:14:40,643
Well, he knows who he is.

352
00:14:42,093 --> 00:14:42,553
He's probably

353
00:14:42,607 --> 00:14:43,077
I think,

354
00:14:43,163 --> 00:14:43,173
but

355
00:14:43,877 --> 00:14:47,377
think you need to rewatch the last
episode fully and maybe you'll

356
00:14:47,377 --> 00:14:49,097
understand better to the commentator.

357
00:14:49,147 --> 00:14:49,437
Okay.

358
00:14:50,553 --> 00:14:51,773
All right, but enough about that though.

359
00:14:51,813 --> 00:14:55,953
Let's talk about this episode,
the Steam Frame, deja vu again.

360
00:14:56,353 --> 00:14:58,173
We talked about this last
episode too, to be honest.

361
00:14:58,173 --> 00:15:03,343
This is our… But essentially, the
Steam Frame, it's nearing a pr- it's

362
00:15:03,363 --> 00:15:08,703
nearing release, and with the s- 30th
anniversary of Valve being next week,

363
00:15:08,723 --> 00:15:10,673
but the following week on the 24th,

364
00:15:15,268 --> 00:15:15,548
Hmm.

365
00:15:15,548 --> 00:15:15,578
What?

366
00:15:15,823 --> 00:15:19,363
I think tomorrow is a good
day to do it, or Monday.

367
00:15:19,783 --> 00:15:20,483
They don't need to wait

368
00:15:20,635 --> 00:15:23,405
after we, after we record
this fucking podcast,

369
00:15:23,857 --> 00:15:26,517
I just, I just, I, I just want it released

370
00:15:28,015 --> 00:15:30,885
So this is the boot
animation for the, uh, Frame.

371
00:15:31,885 --> 00:15:33,485
That's pretty fucking…
That's pretty cool

372
00:15:34,737 --> 00:15:35,337
Wow.

373
00:15:36,607 --> 00:15:38,107
Is that gonna be in 3D?

374
00:15:38,177 --> 00:15:40,717
I wonder if that cube will
have, like, depth to it

375
00:15:41,501 --> 00:15:41,571
Oh, it, that would be pretty cool.

376
00:15:41,571 --> 00:15:41,631
But not right now though, 'cause,

377
00:15:41,939 --> 00:15:43,369
That would be pretty cool actually

378
00:15:43,371 --> 00:15:45,401
none of us have a Steam Frame.

379
00:15:46,761 --> 00:15:49,831
There have been some potential leaks
suggesting that the Steam Frame's

380
00:15:49,871 --> 00:15:51,751
coming out a lot sooner than we expect

381
00:15:52,575 --> 00:15:52,845
Yeah.

382
00:15:52,875 --> 00:15:55,335
We all thought it was gonna
be last Monday, honestly.

383
00:15:55,953 --> 00:15:56,593
Yeah.

384
00:15:57,543 --> 00:15:59,753
D- like right after the episode releases.

385
00:15:59,999 --> 00:16:00,489
Yeah

386
00:16:00,703 --> 00:16:03,013
Hey, hey, it might be this Monday too

387
00:16:03,967 --> 00:16:04,327
Yeah.

388
00:16:04,417 --> 00:16:07,577
Let us know in the comments if we're,
if we're right or if we're wrong

389
00:16:08,177 --> 00:16:11,967
The, uh, we'll just move, we'll just
move the Monday to the latest episode.

390
00:16:12,197 --> 00:16:13,387
That, that's how it works.

391
00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:14,139
Yeah

392
00:16:14,197 --> 00:16:16,567
Unless they like release it in
the middle of our podcast today.

393
00:16:16,567 --> 00:16:18,687
That would be, that would be
fucking sick, wouldn't it?

394
00:16:19,687 --> 00:16:19,707
Yeah,

395
00:16:19,926 --> 00:16:24,566
uh, that unprecedented major
news happening during Off The

396
00:16:24,576 --> 00:16:26,616
Console episode r- recording sesh

397
00:16:26,979 --> 00:16:28,739
it's more like Valve
doesn't do it that way.

398
00:16:28,779 --> 00:16:30,149
It's like Friday or Monday

399
00:16:31,091 --> 00:16:31,481
Yeah

400
00:16:31,654 --> 00:16:34,644
Yeah, Val- Valve will just
release shit on like some random

401
00:16:34,644 --> 00:16:36,164
Wednesday where nothing happens.

402
00:16:37,021 --> 00:16:37,501
That too.

403
00:16:37,501 --> 00:16:39,391
I mean, well, work-life balance

404
00:16:39,614 --> 00:16:40,314
documentary.

405
00:16:41,314 --> 00:16:43,884
Oh, wait, are they gonna do
Half-Life documentaries for like the

406
00:16:43,884 --> 00:16:45,924
episodes or a Portal documentary?

407
00:16:45,924 --> 00:16:46,864
That'd be kinda sick

408
00:16:47,864 --> 00:16:50,884
I don't… I mean, I would
be down for a Portal episode

409
00:16:50,995 --> 00:16:51,785
What did, what'd you say?

410
00:16:52,785 --> 00:16:52,975
Wait,

411
00:16:52,998 --> 00:16:53,138
I,

412
00:16:53,295 --> 00:16:53,635
Gardiner?

413
00:16:53,968 --> 00:16:55,878
I said I would be down
for a Portal documentary

414
00:16:56,293 --> 00:16:58,923
I'd be down for more
documentaries for Valve games.

415
00:16:58,973 --> 00:17:00,603
Left 4 Dead 1 and 2,

416
00:17:00,934 --> 00:17:01,444
Oh yeah

417
00:17:02,103 --> 00:17:04,543
Um, don't really care
that much about Dota,

418
00:17:05,404 --> 00:17:05,734
No.

419
00:17:06,213 --> 00:17:07,573
but they can do classic CS

420
00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:09,054
Yeah.

421
00:17:09,194 --> 00:17:09,764
Success.

422
00:17:10,439 --> 00:17:11,339
Classic CS.

423
00:17:11,974 --> 00:17:12,644
Ricochet

424
00:17:12,794 --> 00:17:13,474
of that stuff

425
00:17:14,349 --> 00:17:15,289
Team Fortress 2.

426
00:17:16,259 --> 00:17:19,949
You get Team Fortress 2 for free on
the day they release that documentary

427
00:17:20,734 --> 00:17:21,704
Guys, Ricochet.

428
00:17:21,744 --> 00:17:23,294
Ricochet is their best game.

429
00:17:23,304 --> 00:17:24,994
You didn't, you don't remember Ricochet?

430
00:17:25,462 --> 00:17:27,372
Dude, Ricochet, I own at Ricochet.

431
00:17:28,722 --> 00:17:29,352
I remember I

432
00:17:29,411 --> 00:17:29,801
it too

433
00:17:30,772 --> 00:17:32,142
No, I, like, owned at it.

434
00:17:32,142 --> 00:17:36,742
Like, I, my friend, I'd play with my
friends and I'd just destroy them.

435
00:17:37,302 --> 00:17:41,672
It's stupid, but I don't even
think Ricochet had, like,

436
00:17:41,732 --> 00:17:43,612
up, um, up-down movement.

437
00:17:43,612 --> 00:17:47,702
It's just side by side and you'd
jump between, um, you'd, you'd

438
00:17:47,712 --> 00:17:49,212
jump up and down on platforms.

439
00:17:49,212 --> 00:17:49,522
That's all.

440
00:17:49,562 --> 00:17:50,392
And shoot disks.

441
00:17:50,402 --> 00:17:52,942
It was like Tron rails almost.

442
00:17:52,942 --> 00:17:54,012
So yeah.

443
00:17:55,392 --> 00:17:56,062
It was weird

444
00:17:57,062 --> 00:17:58,542
Dude, don't worry, man.

445
00:17:58,542 --> 00:17:59,752
They'll get a Ricochet 2.

446
00:18:00,752 --> 00:18:01,832
I don't know if I need a Ricochet

447
00:18:01,925 --> 00:18:02,245
maybe

448
00:18:02,252 --> 00:18:02,342
too

449
00:18:02,675 --> 00:18:04,655
maybe they'll, maybe they'll make it VR

450
00:18:05,448 --> 00:18:07,318
See, I'm waiting for Ricochet 3

451
00:18:08,228 --> 00:18:11,598
Uh, I just want… Yeah

452
00:18:11,645 --> 00:18:12,175
Ricochet 2?

453
00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:16,895
If you do, then you're not, you're not
actually counting to three at that point.

454
00:18:16,905 --> 00:18:19,935
So that, that's the
likeliest scenario here.

455
00:18:20,714 --> 00:18:22,744
Damn, you got a point there, Gardiner.

456
00:18:23,441 --> 00:18:26,451
Want a Ricochet Series X. what I want

457
00:18:26,807 --> 00:18:27,337
Yeah.

458
00:18:27,747 --> 00:18:28,397
Oh, yeah

459
00:18:28,474 --> 00:18:28,954
360

460
00:18:29,954 --> 00:18:31,104
Then that way they don't have to do it.

461
00:18:31,144 --> 00:18:34,894
They could be their stubborn selves
and not have to count to three But

462
00:18:35,354 --> 00:18:38,914
I just want, honestly, I just--
Ricochet, cool, that'd be nice.

463
00:18:38,944 --> 00:18:41,724
I think I'd cry a little if I, if
they came out with a Ricochet two

464
00:18:41,724 --> 00:18:45,204
or three, thinking like, "You've
put your energy to this and not

465
00:18:45,214 --> 00:18:46,614
to something I really care about."

466
00:18:46,624 --> 00:18:51,854
Even though Ricochet was fun, zero
substance to that, uh, high tech.

467
00:18:51,864 --> 00:18:55,094
You gotta go watch some gameplay on
it or pull it up, 'cause if you have

468
00:18:55,094 --> 00:18:58,414
it, like I think everyone might, if
they've… Actually, I don't know

469
00:18:58,414 --> 00:19:00,784
how you buy that game, but yeah

470
00:19:00,870 --> 00:19:02,030
It's on Steam.

471
00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:02,730
It's $4.99

472
00:19:03,664 --> 00:19:06,874
It's costs, money is crazy.

473
00:19:06,874 --> 00:19:12,184
That game is not worth a dollar
in the sense of like it is

474
00:19:12,262 --> 00:19:12,272
Hmm.

475
00:19:12,714 --> 00:19:14,904
a map of bo- jumping up and down.

476
00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:17,364
There's not a lot of
depth to it, literally

477
00:19:18,329 --> 00:19:22,969
Yeah, well, I think they're gonna
unveil Ricochet Two at the Game Awards

478
00:19:23,648 --> 00:19:23,888
my gosh

479
00:19:24,369 --> 00:19:28,639
So the Game Awards, they announced
the date, December 10th, a Thursday.

480
00:19:28,669 --> 00:19:33,939
And as per, as per OTC tradition,
we always live stream this episode,

481
00:19:34,366 --> 00:19:34,836
Yes.

482
00:19:34,949 --> 00:19:37,599
to see how the fucking
Game Awards are rigged

483
00:19:38,316 --> 00:19:38,446
Yeah.

484
00:19:39,688 --> 00:19:39,938
Rigged?

485
00:19:40,738 --> 00:19:41,208
I don't know.

486
00:19:41,208 --> 00:19:44,648
I think Miss, Miss Piggy
gets it every time.

487
00:19:44,648 --> 00:19:46,248
She, she knows what's going on there

488
00:19:47,135 --> 00:19:47,705
is true.

489
00:19:47,735 --> 00:19:48,395
That is true.

490
00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:49,775
won last year?

491
00:19:49,775 --> 00:19:50,765
I need to remember.

492
00:19:52,175 --> 00:19:53,045
Uh, wait, what?

493
00:19:53,055 --> 00:19:53,375
Start

494
00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:54,000
That's

495
00:19:54,195 --> 00:19:54,515
is there

496
00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:56,828
UL category Scroll up.

497
00:19:56,828 --> 00:19:57,798
Click, click that.

498
00:19:57,938 --> 00:19:58,188
Click.

499
00:19:58,448 --> 00:19:58,888
Go down.

500
00:19:59,418 --> 00:19:59,748
Go down.

501
00:20:00,168 --> 00:20:00,698
Click that.

502
00:20:00,908 --> 00:20:01,388
View now.

503
00:20:01,948 --> 00:20:03,208
Click View All Categories.

504
00:20:04,418 --> 00:20:05,098
Game of the Year.

505
00:20:05,283 --> 00:20:05,443
Ah,

506
00:20:05,808 --> 00:20:06,098
Yeah

507
00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:07,188
it's like Clair Obscur.

508
00:20:07,268 --> 00:20:08,388
Clair Obscur is so good.

509
00:20:08,748 --> 00:20:10,518
Clair Obscur's g- like
Expedition's so good

510
00:20:11,622 --> 00:20:12,222
Clair Obscur.

511
00:20:13,163 --> 00:20:13,903
Clair Obscur.

512
00:20:14,186 --> 00:20:17,536
It was not rigged for cl-
like, you guys didn't play it.

513
00:20:18,196 --> 00:20:20,856
Obs- uh, Expedition 33 was really good

514
00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:25,975
I'm not saying it was rigged this year,
but I'm saying it's usually rigged.

515
00:20:26,772 --> 00:20:27,372
I think,

516
00:20:27,725 --> 00:20:28,185
Obscur.

517
00:20:28,922 --> 00:20:34,552
I, I don't know I go fully like,
I- is it influenced every year?

518
00:20:34,552 --> 00:20:35,592
Probably.

519
00:20:35,972 --> 00:20:36,692
Is it rigged?

520
00:20:36,732 --> 00:20:39,852
I think all the game of the years
that I've seen I've agreed with, at

521
00:20:39,852 --> 00:20:41,762
least in the last like five, six years

522
00:20:42,835 --> 00:20:44,275
Best ongoing, No Man's Sky.

523
00:20:44,285 --> 00:20:45,075
I agree with that.

524
00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:48,085
Best community support, Baldur's Gate 3.

525
00:20:49,295 --> 00:20:50,915
Cl- all right, this is bullshit.

526
00:20:52,306 --> 00:20:58,928
I know this is But it has such a
good almost indie s- uh, story.

527
00:20:58,928 --> 00:21:00,538
It's just not quite indie.

528
00:21:00,978 --> 00:21:01,748
That's the unfortunate part

529
00:21:02,748 --> 00:21:05,178
like this is like categorically bullshit.

530
00:21:05,228 --> 00:21:08,018
Honestly, I think the whole idea
of having a publisher at all

531
00:21:08,853 --> 00:21:09,223
Yeah

532
00:21:09,828 --> 00:21:11,028
the purpose of it being indie.

533
00:21:11,088 --> 00:21:11,628
That doesn't mean they're

534
00:21:11,687 --> 00:21:12,267
I agree

535
00:21:13,198 --> 00:21:15,618
Like Blue Prince I've
heard is a great game.

536
00:21:15,698 --> 00:21:17,368
I've heard BALL x PIT is a good game too.

537
00:21:17,368 --> 00:21:19,528
I've also heard Absolum a good game too.

538
00:21:20,388 --> 00:21:22,828
like realistically, the only
two games here that are indie

539
00:21:22,828 --> 00:21:24,688
are either Hades II or Silksong

540
00:21:24,981 --> 00:21:25,411
Yeah

541
00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:28,791
Some of these wouldn't have become
games unless they would've gotten

542
00:21:28,791 --> 00:21:31,881
picked up by a publisher though, so
we gotta remember, sometimes it's

543
00:21:31,963 --> 00:21:32,163
Right.

544
00:21:32,283 --> 00:21:32,623
But,

545
00:21:32,651 --> 00:21:33,291
a video game

546
00:21:33,903 --> 00:21:38,463
but the difference be- we, we had this
debate last year, but, like, the, the

547
00:21:38,463 --> 00:21:42,823
difference is you have indie games,
which are games like what I did or

548
00:21:42,823 --> 00:21:47,453
what Hades or s- you know, Hollow
Knight does, where they, y- the, the

549
00:21:47,463 --> 00:21:49,823
studio themselves are independent.

550
00:21:49,833 --> 00:21:53,793
They are putting up the money to
develop the game up front themselves.

551
00:21:54,213 --> 00:21:59,543
Then you have double A, which is,
like, what Clair Obscur and these

552
00:21:59,553 --> 00:22:04,013
other games that have, like, an
indie feel maybe, but they're just,

553
00:22:04,043 --> 00:22:05,973
they're, like, lower budget, right?

554
00:22:05,983 --> 00:22:07,103
That's the difference, right?

555
00:22:07,103 --> 00:22:07,993
And then triple A

556
00:22:08,523 --> 00:22:12,843
I mean, but a l- I think a lot of games
start out as indie and then they get

557
00:22:12,843 --> 00:22:14,583
picked up by a publisher to finish.

558
00:22:15,303 --> 00:22:19,683
so it's not like they didn't
have a lot of, um, they didn't…

559
00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:20,993
They took on a lot of risk.

560
00:22:21,133 --> 00:22:26,303
Like I think Expedition 33 started indie,
then they were able to pick up a publisher

561
00:22:26,333 --> 00:22:31,423
to finish it and to, um, to get, I don't
know at what point during the whole thing.

562
00:22:32,093 --> 00:22:35,043
Um, I don't know about the,
the other games in that list.

563
00:22:35,073 --> 00:22:36,503
I, yeah, we've had the debate.

564
00:22:36,863 --> 00:22:43,333
I, I, I want to agree, but, like, I
wouldn't put… With v- with some of that,

565
00:22:43,333 --> 00:22:46,873
I don't even know if I'd go as far as
Hades II and S- uh, Silksong being indie

566
00:22:46,893 --> 00:22:51,953
because made so much money off their first
games that they're, like, easy to fund.

567
00:22:52,153 --> 00:22:53,423
It's easy to fund those.

568
00:22:54,017 --> 00:22:55,817
Yeah, I, I think there is some nuance

569
00:22:56,343 --> 00:22:58,433
realm of developers

570
00:22:58,492 --> 00:23:01,402
there's a world where we could say
Supergiant Games is no longer an

571
00:23:01,412 --> 00:23:03,352
indie dev in the traditional sense

572
00:23:04,001 --> 00:23:04,821
They're self-pub

573
00:23:04,929 --> 00:23:05,719
a triple A budget.

574
00:23:05,999 --> 00:23:06,509
Like they have

575
00:23:06,571 --> 00:23:06,801
Yeah.

576
00:23:06,891 --> 00:23:06,911
Yeah.

577
00:23:07,069 --> 00:23:08,199
they have a huge budget

578
00:23:09,001 --> 00:23:09,211
Right

579
00:23:09,664 --> 00:23:13,314
I think they could move out of the
indie category by their next… Well,

580
00:23:13,314 --> 00:23:15,814
I feel like they should have already
moved out of the indie category

581
00:23:16,291 --> 00:23:18,711
Dude, I mean, Bastion
was an absolute banger.

582
00:23:18,821 --> 00:23:23,951
Uh, and it sold super well, and so
did, um, what was the follow-up?

583
00:23:24,041 --> 00:23:24,571
Uh,

584
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,530
Transitor?

585
00:23:26,021 --> 00:23:28,571
no, there was another
one before Transistor.

586
00:23:28,771 --> 00:23:29,301
Um,

587
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,300
Oh, I don't know

588
00:23:30,561 --> 00:23:31,241
I don't remember.

589
00:23:31,271 --> 00:23:34,781
But yeah, like they had, um, yeah.

590
00:23:34,861 --> 00:23:37,381
Anyway, they… You're right.

591
00:23:38,438 --> 00:23:38,858
Best

592
00:23:38,927 --> 00:23:39,457
debut i-

593
00:23:39,468 --> 00:23:39,658
in

594
00:23:39,787 --> 00:23:42,597
indie game is a bad, it's a bad one.

595
00:23:43,357 --> 00:23:44,597
I think they could've renamed that

596
00:23:45,364 --> 00:23:50,014
Yeah, I mean, how do you d- how,
how do you disambiguate between like

597
00:23:50,244 --> 00:23:53,304
a person that's making their game
for the very first time and like

598
00:23:54,054 --> 00:23:57,734
a studio full, a brand new studio
full of industry vets, like with

599
00:23:57,775 --> 00:23:57,995
Right.

600
00:23:58,504 --> 00:23:58,824
Like, how do

601
00:23:58,855 --> 00:23:59,205
Yeah

602
00:23:59,724 --> 00:24:01,524
Like, Dispatch is also the same way too.

603
00:24:01,564 --> 00:24:03,474
Hon- I think all of these are… Well,

604
00:24:03,543 --> 00:24:05,373
probably all… Like, that's
the, that, that's the thing.

605
00:24:05,373 --> 00:24:08,343
It's not their first, because that's,
that's a really weird way to, like,

606
00:24:08,343 --> 00:24:13,273
distinguish it, but it's just,
it's, it's for their studio, right?

607
00:24:13,283 --> 00:24:15,113
It's their debut studio.

608
00:24:15,163 --> 00:24:20,243
Like, that would be probably a better
way to say best debut game and have

609
00:24:20,243 --> 00:24:23,533
it attached to a studio, but that's,
I guess, the same thing for them.

610
00:24:23,543 --> 00:24:27,483
They don't consider… They consider
Indie to be, like, a upstart, which

611
00:24:28,483 --> 00:24:30,213
that's the hard part about all this.

612
00:24:30,563 --> 00:24:34,563
I'd like to split out some of these
into multiple categories, but then the

613
00:24:34,693 --> 00:24:36,783
Game Awards show would go so much longer

614
00:24:36,942 --> 00:24:37,372
SC

615
00:24:37,573 --> 00:24:40,733
Well, even if they removed like all,
like a third of the advertisements,

616
00:24:40,733 --> 00:24:44,203
we'd, it'd clear up like two
hours worth of the of the show.

617
00:24:44,943 --> 00:24:45,033
Well,

618
00:24:45,273 --> 00:24:48,923
these show, so these shows
are so expensive to run, guys.

619
00:24:49,923 --> 00:24:52,883
Like game award shows, all
those things are so expensive.

620
00:24:52,883 --> 00:24:55,643
Unless you, like, f- find a way
to fund it, I don't know, it,

621
00:24:55,755 --> 00:24:57,805
They don't have to be expensive.

622
00:24:57,875 --> 00:24:58,635
That's the thing.

623
00:24:58,715 --> 00:24:59,735
They don't need to be

624
00:24:59,876 --> 00:25:00,036
All

625
00:25:00,339 --> 00:25:03,579
broadcasting, they have
to be expensive just for

626
00:25:03,721 --> 00:25:03,971
Yeah

627
00:25:04,869 --> 00:25:08,699
Now you could trim it down quite
a bit, but that's, I don't know.

628
00:25:08,869 --> 00:25:12,669
I'm not trying to defend it, but I've seen
more and more behind the scenes on some

629
00:25:12,669 --> 00:25:14,489
of these things and they're so expensive

630
00:25:14,644 --> 00:25:17,144
you couldn't make a show like this
without having significant amounts

631
00:25:17,144 --> 00:25:20,834
of money or sponsorships or the,
the, uh… Like, if we were to do our

632
00:25:20,834 --> 00:25:24,964
own Off The Console award show, it'd
have, we'd have to be, like, we'd have

633
00:25:24,964 --> 00:25:27,814
to get, like, a pretty big sponsor.

634
00:25:27,844 --> 00:25:29,634
But, uh, that's besides the point though.

635
00:25:30,364 --> 00:25:34,444
Mus- best mobile game,
Uma Musume Let's see.

636
00:25:34,504 --> 00:25:35,574
Best VR game.

637
00:25:35,904 --> 00:25:38,144
I don't know any of these
games, but Midnight Walk won.

638
00:25:39,274 --> 00:25:44,684
Best action game, Hades II Hmm.

639
00:25:44,844 --> 00:25:47,434
I mean, it, I mean, it's
a pretty good action game.

640
00:25:47,444 --> 00:25:48,814
Best action-adventure game.

641
00:25:49,844 --> 00:25:51,344
Silksong, wow.

642
00:25:51,974 --> 00:25:53,434
That's pretty cool, I can agree with that.

643
00:25:54,234 --> 00:25:56,574
Best RPG, Clair Obscur.

644
00:25:56,574 --> 00:25:57,544
I could agree with that too.

645
00:25:58,544 --> 00:26:02,374
What I don't agree with is Monster
Hunter Wilds being categorized as an

646
00:26:02,374 --> 00:26:05,654
RPG, but that's besides the point.

647
00:26:06,134 --> 00:26:08,504
Best, best fighting game.

648
00:26:09,374 --> 00:26:13,564
it crazy, like, that, like, three of
these are just re-releases of old games?

649
00:26:14,564 --> 00:26:14,674
At

650
00:26:14,863 --> 00:26:15,443
It's kind of sad

651
00:26:16,204 --> 00:26:17,834
at least Fatal Fury won.

652
00:26:17,914 --> 00:26:18,834
I can respect that

653
00:26:19,834 --> 00:26:20,204
Yeah, the,

654
00:26:20,446 --> 00:26:20,716
Yeah.

655
00:26:21,104 --> 00:26:21,154
the… Oh, mate

656
00:26:21,856 --> 00:26:24,816
They… What really bothers
me is that they don't have

657
00:26:24,906 --> 00:26:26,886
a best Linux games category

658
00:26:27,886 --> 00:26:30,286
What you talk about with Valve,
they're all Linux games now

659
00:26:31,286 --> 00:26:32,966
I don't see any Valve games on here

660
00:26:33,637 --> 00:26:36,757
No, because of… Well, because of,
um, what I'm saying is the Steam OS.

661
00:26:37,442 --> 00:26:37,983
Proton.

662
00:26:38,267 --> 00:26:39,047
and Proton.

663
00:26:39,497 --> 00:26:39,887
Uh, yeah,

664
00:26:39,902 --> 00:26:40,102
Yeah

665
00:26:41,562 --> 00:26:43,282
See, best family game, Donkey Kong.

666
00:26:45,242 --> 00:26:49,092
Best sim strategy, Final Fantasy
Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles.

667
00:26:49,362 --> 00:26:53,172
Hell yes, I can agree with this
even if it is a re-release, a, a

668
00:26:53,172 --> 00:26:57,682
re-release and re-enhancement of an
old PS1, AKA the best Final Fantasy.

669
00:26:57,981 --> 00:27:00,631
I feel like Two Point Museum might, might

670
00:27:00,711 --> 00:27:01,091
like

671
00:27:01,181 --> 00:27:01,211
the cake

672
00:27:01,931 --> 00:27:02,631
being on here.

673
00:27:03,071 --> 00:27:06,471
Alters is original, and
I really did like Alters.

674
00:27:06,471 --> 00:27:08,101
I still-- I haven't finished it, but

675
00:27:09,101 --> 00:27:14,331
Well, my question now is what if it's
like a rebalance of the game with like

676
00:27:14,331 --> 00:27:18,031
new … Like, 'cause it does, like
the original game didn't have voice

677
00:27:18,031 --> 00:27:23,241
acting, and this one does, and they also
rebalanced the game and I, I don't know.

678
00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:24,821
I, I don't know

679
00:27:24,831 --> 00:27:27,681
or just a remaster with the voice acting?

680
00:27:28,635 --> 00:27:33,755
Well, it's a remaster with rebalanced
gameplay, reworked UI, voice acting.

681
00:27:34,247 --> 00:27:35,017
Got the hard one.

682
00:27:35,785 --> 00:27:36,275
yeah, it is

683
00:27:36,327 --> 00:27:36,577
The,

684
00:27:36,725 --> 00:27:37,035
I don't know.

685
00:27:37,075 --> 00:27:37,145
I

686
00:27:37,187 --> 00:27:37,477
that's…

687
00:27:37,485 --> 00:27:38,815
it's quite a remake,

688
00:27:39,027 --> 00:27:41,827
I think if it's a remake you could
throw it into there, and that

689
00:27:41,837 --> 00:27:43,577
there's still debate there, but yeah

690
00:27:44,577 --> 00:27:45,367
Let's see.

691
00:27:46,347 --> 00:27:47,957
game, Mario Kart World.

692
00:27:48,227 --> 00:27:51,647
It w- it was fun, but I
don't think it's $80 fun.

693
00:27:52,072 --> 00:27:52,362
No

694
00:27:52,817 --> 00:27:54,877
Bes- best multiplayer, Arc Raiders.

695
00:27:55,667 --> 00:27:56,687
guess, yeah, that won.

696
00:27:57,827 --> 00:27:58,707
Whatever, I guess.

697
00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:00,767
Best adaptation, The Last of Us

698
00:28:01,767 --> 00:28:02,107
Yeah

699
00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:03,829
Which isn't even a video game.

700
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:08,219
It's, it's a TV show at the Game Awards.

701
00:28:08,349 --> 00:28:08,739
Love it.

702
00:28:09,873 --> 00:28:12,783
Well, it's based on a-- The, its
best adaptation is a video game,

703
00:28:12,933 --> 00:28:14,923
yeah, r- based media, right?

704
00:28:15,183 --> 00:28:15,493
So

705
00:28:16,431 --> 00:28:18,901
Yeah, it is based on a video game.

706
00:28:19,061 --> 00:28:21,321
Most anticipated game, Grand Theft Auto.

707
00:28:21,771 --> 00:28:23,161
We all knew that was gonna win.

708
00:28:24,621 --> 00:28:29,541
And oh, Lord, I c- oh, God, it's supposed
to release this year, and it's supposed

709
00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:30,951
to be at the Game Awards this year?

710
00:28:30,981 --> 00:28:32,861
Oh, my fucking God, man

711
00:28:33,223 --> 00:28:35,923
It's gonna be game of
the year, unfortunately

712
00:28:36,937 --> 00:28:37,967
MoistCr1TiKaL won.

713
00:28:38,037 --> 00:28:38,857
Who cares?

714
00:28:39,197 --> 00:28:40,087
Content creator.

715
00:28:40,427 --> 00:28:41,897
I don't care if, unless we're on there.

716
00:28:42,997 --> 00:28:43,527
Wow, is that

717
00:28:43,766 --> 00:28:43,946
I…

718
00:28:44,087 --> 00:28:44,727
of me to say?

719
00:28:44,975 --> 00:28:45,795
No, not at all.

720
00:28:46,286 --> 00:28:46,766
A little bit.

721
00:28:47,766 --> 00:28:50,646
See CS2 esports game, whatever man.

722
00:28:51,586 --> 00:28:53,326
esports, uh, athlete

723
00:28:54,326 --> 00:28:55,586
We don't need to go through all these.

724
00:28:55,586 --> 00:28:57,676
These are the, the, the point where

725
00:28:58,428 --> 00:28:59,068
Sees

726
00:28:59,126 --> 00:28:59,606
asleep

727
00:29:00,868 --> 00:29:01,498
Player's Voice.

728
00:29:01,498 --> 00:29:02,358
This one's important.

729
00:29:02,468 --> 00:29:03,498
Wuthering Waves.

730
00:29:03,498 --> 00:29:05,458
It's always interesting
how these gacha games win

731
00:29:06,458 --> 00:29:10,438
Yeah, well, if you give a- uh,
addicts the choice, uh, to,

732
00:29:10,438 --> 00:29:12,618
uh, pick their favorite game

733
00:29:13,618 --> 00:29:14,078
Shade

734
00:29:15,078 --> 00:29:19,718
Yes, but in the meantime though,
speaking of addicts, may be coming

735
00:29:19,718 --> 00:29:22,058
to Linux through the Exodus project.

736
00:29:23,058 --> 00:29:23,528
So for those

737
00:29:23,598 --> 00:29:24,578
addicts are gonna enjoy it

738
00:29:25,518 --> 00:29:29,888
so for those who don't know, Linguin
is the principal guy behind the

739
00:29:29,928 --> 00:29:35,808
Heroic Games Launcher, and now
he's working on bringing Xbox PC

740
00:29:35,808 --> 00:29:39,018
games and Game Pass games to Linux.

741
00:29:39,410 --> 00:29:39,670
Mm-hmm.

742
00:29:40,698 --> 00:29:41,388
It's good stuff.

743
00:29:41,398 --> 00:29:45,678
So he's gotten all the authentication
and all that stuff done.

744
00:29:45,878 --> 00:29:49,078
He hasn't quite gotten games to work,
but at this point though, I think

745
00:29:49,088 --> 00:29:53,088
that's small potatoes compared to just
getting everything else working, right?

746
00:29:54,076 --> 00:29:58,016
Y- uh, yeah, the authentication and making
sure there's no DRM or anything that's

747
00:29:58,016 --> 00:29:59,816
blocking it, that's the biggest step.

748
00:29:59,846 --> 00:30:03,636
If he's co- crossed that and the
games just need Proton and some

749
00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:08,006
other stuff and, um, stuff applied
to it, that's the easier stuff.

750
00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:09,566
So that's good.

751
00:30:09,566 --> 00:30:10,096
That's a good sign.

752
00:30:10,096 --> 00:30:10,916
This is a very good sign

753
00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:15,776
Yeah, so as you can see here, you can
see all the games available, and, uh

754
00:30:16,776 --> 00:30:20,286
It looks like he's either installed
them or is installing them right now.

755
00:30:20,336 --> 00:30:25,486
Like, truth be told, if you have them on
Steam, there's no reason to switch over.

756
00:30:25,486 --> 00:30:28,456
But if you have them on Game Pass, I mean,
it's a g- it's a good value to be able

757
00:30:28,456 --> 00:30:33,126
to play your Game Pass games on Linux,
where, because traditionally, like if

758
00:30:33,126 --> 00:30:38,046
I'm not mistaken, you couldn't use Pass
on Linux without like streaming, right?

759
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,320
Ja

760
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,630
Yep.

761
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:45,130
Oh, and furthermore, OG Xbox/360
backwards compatibility.

762
00:30:45,910 --> 00:30:46,760
You guys remember that

763
00:30:47,575 --> 00:30:47,585
Hmm?

764
00:30:48,585 --> 00:30:49,625
Interesting.

765
00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:50,570
so

766
00:30:50,815 --> 00:30:54,785
is this backwards compatibility
through like the official emulators?

767
00:30:55,785 --> 00:30:59,635
So, um, I, I don't know.

768
00:30:59,665 --> 00:31:01,485
I, I mean, I haven't tested that myself.

769
00:31:01,525 --> 00:31:03,885
The games are available right now
if anyone wants to try them out,

770
00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:05,595
but I don't know for certain.

771
00:31:06,445 --> 00:31:09,165
someone was able to in- I think
some people have been able to inject

772
00:31:09,175 --> 00:31:14,755
other Xbox games into the official
emulator But it's not a huge priority

773
00:31:14,755 --> 00:31:18,285
right now since Linguin has to
get the other games working first.

774
00:31:18,846 --> 00:31:19,086
Yeah.

775
00:31:19,285 --> 00:31:19,645
But it,

776
00:31:19,716 --> 00:31:19,826
he,

777
00:31:19,855 --> 00:31:20,905
is something on the table

778
00:31:21,256 --> 00:31:28,186
is he like bringing like,
uh, uh, Xbox APIs to Proton?

779
00:31:28,196 --> 00:31:29,136
Is that how he's doing this?

780
00:31:30,136 --> 00:31:31,286
Well, I'm, I'm not certain.

781
00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:33,916
Exodus is supposed to handle
the authentication, game

782
00:31:33,916 --> 00:31:35,706
package download, and licenses.

783
00:31:36,516 --> 00:31:41,246
It can also download and
decrypt MSIXVC packages.

784
00:31:42,026 --> 00:31:44,766
Uh, let's see, authorization
and game downloads are working.

785
00:31:44,876 --> 00:31:48,346
He's focusing on getting the game
SDK to actually run the games,

786
00:31:49,236 --> 00:31:52,346
apparently he's got his own fork
of Wine set up for this purpose

787
00:31:53,346 --> 00:31:54,126
Oh yeah, yeah.

788
00:31:54,216 --> 00:31:55,336
Uh, scroll up really quick.

789
00:31:56,206 --> 00:31:56,696
Right there.

790
00:31:56,746 --> 00:32:00,766
The, the remaining work involves
recreating th- uh, enough of the Xbox

791
00:32:00,776 --> 00:32:04,866
gaming runtime and related services
for games to function through Wine.

792
00:32:04,946 --> 00:32:05,286
Yeah.

793
00:32:06,286 --> 00:32:06,886
Neat.

794
00:32:07,886 --> 00:32:09,946
I mean, dude, I'm all
in favor of this, dude.

795
00:32:09,956 --> 00:32:10,946
Linguin's the man.

796
00:32:11,257 --> 00:32:12,427
Linguin is the guy.

797
00:32:12,477 --> 00:32:14,637
We had him on our podcast
once too, actually, if you

798
00:32:14,746 --> 00:32:15,116
did.

799
00:32:15,606 --> 00:32:16,016
Yeah

800
00:32:16,727 --> 00:32:18,907
Uh, we should probably link that
in the description down… We

801
00:32:18,907 --> 00:32:20,157
should probably look up that video.

802
00:32:20,237 --> 00:32:20,867
Uh, but

803
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:21,560
Yeah

804
00:32:22,057 --> 00:32:22,867
he's the GOAT.

805
00:32:23,637 --> 00:32:27,537
He made Heroic Games Launcher, he
made Epic Games Lau- He made the

806
00:32:27,537 --> 00:32:29,247
Epic Games Store palatable on Linux.

807
00:32:29,827 --> 00:32:30,087
Mm-hmm

808
00:32:30,777 --> 00:32:31,627
It's good stuff.

809
00:32:31,757 --> 00:32:33,907
Uh, uh, uh, what is MSIXVC?

810
00:32:34,746 --> 00:32:37,216
Alan Wake 2, so that was really nice

811
00:32:37,953 --> 00:32:42,533
Oh, it's the new packaging format for
games built with the Microsoft GDK.

812
00:32:43,783 --> 00:32:47,213
I don't actually know what the he-
major differences are since I'm not

813
00:32:47,213 --> 00:32:50,863
familiar with it, but You're supposed
to be able to play Minecr- wait,

814
00:32:50,894 --> 00:32:51,324
Mm-hmm.

815
00:32:51,633 --> 00:32:52,403
Bedrock?

816
00:32:52,493 --> 00:32:53,393
That could be huge

817
00:32:54,608 --> 00:32:56,318
I'm trying to get that working right now.

818
00:32:56,408 --> 00:33:00,638
And so that's my whole, like, for
my kids to get Bedrock running.

819
00:33:00,648 --> 00:33:04,348
I have Java edition, which, which isn't
too bad, but I'm making it easier with…

820
00:33:04,678 --> 00:33:08,078
'Cause I, I do have a launcher I've
worked with on and off on my own stuff.

821
00:33:09,006 --> 00:33:09,016
Mm-hmm.

822
00:33:09,028 --> 00:33:11,268
it so that it's launching Minecraft
without having to go through,

823
00:33:11,268 --> 00:33:13,408
like, some of the archaic, uh, UIs.

824
00:33:13,438 --> 00:33:14,948
But yeah, I don't have-- I'm

825
00:33:14,969 --> 00:33:18,679
a- is it like the Android version
of, uh, Minecraft Bedrock that

826
00:33:18,679 --> 00:33:19,889
you're using or something like that?

827
00:33:20,036 --> 00:33:23,376
No, I'm not using Be- Like, that is one
way you could go is through Android.

828
00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:24,446
I don't wanna do that though.

829
00:33:24,486 --> 00:33:29,056
I want native PC Bedrock,
partially 'cause I own it.

830
00:33:29,096 --> 00:33:32,346
I don't wanna buy, uh, the Android
or have my kids use the Android.

831
00:33:32,356 --> 00:33:37,376
They have all their stuff tied to PC, and
so for them to use Steam OS, that's a big

832
00:33:37,386 --> 00:33:41,786
part of it is to get Bedrock working on it
'cause they're big into Minecraft Bedrock.

833
00:33:42,036 --> 00:33:46,826
They have Java, and we'd run Java, but,
like, Bedrock would be a great step

834
00:33:47,826 --> 00:33:48,196
Right.

835
00:33:48,196 --> 00:33:50,216
So there's a whole FAQ here.

836
00:33:50,276 --> 00:33:51,236
What is Exodus?

837
00:33:51,336 --> 00:33:53,356
When can I play Minecraft Bedrock?

838
00:33:53,746 --> 00:33:55,646
TLDR, soon TM.

839
00:33:56,746 --> 00:33:58,226
How do I get involved?

840
00:33:58,666 --> 00:34:00,936
Uh, what games are, will be supported?

841
00:34:01,806 --> 00:34:06,326
of the catalog, the limitation has to
be, the game has to be GDK and an MSIXVC.

842
00:34:08,186 --> 00:34:11,956
far, Gears of War 4 is the
prominent unsupported title.

843
00:34:12,886 --> 00:34:13,566
That might be…

844
00:34:13,596 --> 00:34:16,066
I, I don't know what might be… I
don't know what's necessarily going

845
00:34:16,066 --> 00:34:21,136
on with, uh, Gears of War 4, uh,
since I haven't played that, but yeah,

846
00:34:21,136 --> 00:34:22,736
I mean, it looks like good stuff.

847
00:34:23,626 --> 00:34:27,686
He's ready to get, he's ready to get…
He's ready to bring Xbox over to PC

848
00:34:28,396 --> 00:34:30,546
just in time for the new console to

849
00:34:30,791 --> 00:34:31,251
Or else

850
00:34:31,481 --> 00:34:31,831
Yeah

851
00:34:33,277 --> 00:34:34,637
Bring, bringing it to Linux.

852
00:34:34,767 --> 00:34:35,387
It's

853
00:34:36,582 --> 00:34:36,674
Right.

854
00:34:36,674 --> 00:34:39,972
So currently there's no downloadable
executable for this 'cause

855
00:34:39,972 --> 00:34:41,782
it's very work in progress,

856
00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:42,513
Yeah

857
00:34:42,852 --> 00:34:46,332
but you could build it from
the source if you'd like

858
00:34:47,332 --> 00:34:47,752
Yeah.

859
00:34:48,712 --> 00:34:49,082
I don't know.

860
00:34:49,102 --> 00:34:50,192
I think it's cool, man.

861
00:34:50,992 --> 00:34:51,642
Exodus.

862
00:34:52,642 --> 00:34:52,902
I'm,

863
00:34:52,988 --> 00:34:53,278
I think

864
00:34:53,342 --> 00:34:53,792
I'm gonna read-

865
00:34:53,938 --> 00:34:54,438
too.

866
00:34:55,438 --> 00:34:55,778
yeah.

867
00:34:56,778 --> 00:34:59,998
I'll have to look into
it also for my launcher

868
00:35:00,669 --> 00:35:04,939
Also, that is a pretty cool title,
uh, for your project, Project Exodus.

869
00:35:05,878 --> 00:35:06,348
Agreed.

870
00:35:06,839 --> 00:35:07,299
Sick.

871
00:35:07,408 --> 00:35:07,668
really good

872
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:13,949
Now, the Epic Games Store is a
little less sick, but I think it's

873
00:35:13,959 --> 00:35:17,489
good that they're supporting Linux
even if we all, even if some of us

874
00:35:17,489 --> 00:35:19,179
aren't the biggest fans of Epic Games

875
00:35:20,254 --> 00:35:20,894
Supporting.

876
00:35:21,394 --> 00:35:26,704
I-- Once again, I don't have too many
issues personally, like supporting

877
00:35:26,714 --> 00:35:28,254
is very loose there, by the way

878
00:35:29,254 --> 00:35:33,044
Now, some people have gone on record
saying that, "Oh, this means Fortnite's

879
00:35:33,084 --> 00:35:37,134
coming to Linux." But like, no,
that doesn't necessarily mean that.

880
00:35:37,535 --> 00:35:37,795
I,

881
00:35:37,824 --> 00:35:38,314
It'd be

882
00:35:38,315 --> 00:35:39,875
I think it's gonna come to Linux.

883
00:35:39,965 --> 00:35:44,375
I think they have a lull in their
subs- like and they're gonna…

884
00:35:44,415 --> 00:35:47,545
They'll do anything to make sure
that they keep that high going.

885
00:35:47,615 --> 00:35:49,105
And s- I think it's gonna come to Linux.

886
00:35:49,535 --> 00:35:49,745
He's

887
00:35:49,767 --> 00:35:50,077
Mm.

888
00:35:50,125 --> 00:35:53,415
his and it's, it's gonna
come to Linux eventually.

889
00:35:53,415 --> 00:35:57,215
I don't think this is necessarily
the catalyst for that, but yeah

890
00:35:58,401 --> 00:36:00,621
I mean, this is like kind
of the prerequisite, right?

891
00:36:00,651 --> 00:36:03,161
Like this has to happen before, uh,

892
00:36:03,336 --> 00:36:03,676
Fortnite

893
00:36:03,801 --> 00:36:03,951
Fortnite

894
00:36:04,036 --> 00:36:04,456
Linux

895
00:36:04,701 --> 00:36:06,861
could come to Linux, but like, yeah

896
00:36:06,871 --> 00:36:10,631
But this came around… This was confirmed
'cause they were-- It was at a conference

897
00:36:10,631 --> 00:36:14,181
where there was someone asked, "Are
you going to put this on Linux?" And

898
00:36:14,181 --> 00:36:16,651
then they asked, "It's on our plans."
That's what, from my understanding,

899
00:36:16,651 --> 00:36:18,901
what essentially was announced, so

900
00:36:19,731 --> 00:36:19,751
Yeah

901
00:36:19,806 --> 00:36:22,266
so the Epic Games Store
is coming to Linux.

902
00:36:22,676 --> 00:36:23,286
I think I would much

903
00:36:23,579 --> 00:36:23,969
Y- when?

904
00:36:23,979 --> 00:36:24,809
Like two years?

905
00:36:24,819 --> 00:36:28,119
Like, it's, uh, like the last time they
did stuff like that with a Trello board,

906
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,389
like, it, they didn't get everything
done and went past their, due date.

907
00:36:32,389 --> 00:36:35,839
So I'd be more hopeful if they
said, "Hey, it's coming out in the

908
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,589
next month," because I want this.

909
00:36:38,789 --> 00:36:41,499
I want more support for Linux
for this, for the Epic Games

910
00:36:41,509 --> 00:36:45,649
Store, 'cause I do development
and stuff between Godot and this.

911
00:36:45,729 --> 00:36:47,809
It'd be awesome for me to tinker more

912
00:36:47,856 --> 00:36:48,106
right.

913
00:36:48,209 --> 00:36:49,679
without having to go through the loopholes

914
00:36:50,545 --> 00:36:50,805
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm

915
00:36:50,836 --> 00:36:54,796
Sweeney, if you're watching this podcast,
I think the smartest thing you could do

916
00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:57,566
is hire Linguin A- and the guys behind

917
00:36:57,637 --> 00:36:57,957
Well,

918
00:36:58,256 --> 00:36:58,956
CLI

919
00:36:59,167 --> 00:37:00,977
I'm pretty sure that,

920
00:37:01,047 --> 00:37:01,287
have

921
00:37:01,587 --> 00:37:07,867
Ep- that Heroic has received at
least one, uh, Epic grant, right?

922
00:37:07,877 --> 00:37:10,967
Like the Epic MegaGrants, I'm pretty
sure they've done at least one.

923
00:37:11,475 --> 00:37:12,325
I wouldn't be shocked.

924
00:37:12,615 --> 00:37:12,855
Dad

925
00:37:13,047 --> 00:37:15,427
I feel like it's been two
even, but I don't know for sure

926
00:37:15,443 --> 00:37:19,473
If it was… Okay, guys, I know we like,
like you guys like to shit on Epic.

927
00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:23,913
I'm not, and I'm not gonna be here
to defend it, but if it was Rockstar,

928
00:37:24,513 --> 00:37:25,883
they would've just sued them.

929
00:37:26,665 --> 00:37:27,065
Yes

930
00:37:27,553 --> 00:37:30,563
I'm just saying, at least, at least
Epic gave them a gr- if they did

931
00:37:30,563 --> 00:37:34,173
give them a grant, that's awesome,
and they're trying to support that

932
00:37:34,249 --> 00:37:34,609
Yeah

933
00:37:34,673 --> 00:37:35,013
of things.

934
00:37:35,023 --> 00:37:35,933
And I know it helps them.

935
00:37:35,933 --> 00:37:37,623
I, I know that it can make, you know.

936
00:37:37,863 --> 00:37:41,523
But there's other companies out
there, and this is a sad bar.

937
00:37:41,523 --> 00:37:44,263
This is a, this is a very
bad, sad bar, but like

938
00:37:44,361 --> 00:37:48,121
So I don't think, I don't s-
I don't really shit on Epic

939
00:37:48,251 --> 00:37:49,951
so much as, uh, Tim Sweeney.

940
00:37:50,181 --> 00:37:54,671
Like Epic, I, I mean Epic, and,
and they're in bed with Disney,

941
00:37:54,671 --> 00:37:57,701
which is like, you know, one of the
worst companies in the world, but

942
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:01,980
Yeah, you can log on, you can log on to,
uh, Epic Store with your Disney account.

943
00:38:02,833 --> 00:38:03,653
Oh, you can?

944
00:38:03,733 --> 00:38:04,003
Oh

945
00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:06,680
I did that yesterday 'cause I
needed, I wanted to get a skin

946
00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:09,830
on Fortnite so I could just have
something to show off instead of

947
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,290
being just Jonesy from Fortnite.

948
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:12,480
It's

949
00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:12,957
Okay.

950
00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:13,420
the skin?

951
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,670
You wanna see the skin I got?

952
00:38:15,203 --> 00:38:16,503
Oh my God, is it Disney?

953
00:38:16,513 --> 00:38:16,783
Is it,

954
00:38:16,907 --> 00:38:16,957
it

955
00:38:17,813 --> 00:38:18,753
is it, is it Mickey Mouse?

956
00:38:18,926 --> 00:38:20,106
It's not Mickey Mouse.

957
00:38:21,106 --> 00:38:23,476
It's Perlica from Arknights Endfield.

958
00:38:23,476 --> 00:38:27,446
You get a free skin if you,
uh, buy something in Arknights.

959
00:38:27,586 --> 00:38:29,386
So that way I didn't give Epic money.

960
00:38:30,386 --> 00:38:30,506
Yeah,

961
00:38:30,523 --> 00:38:31,033
Oh my gosh.

962
00:38:31,196 --> 00:38:33,356
Games Store, so you gave them
a little bit of money, but

963
00:38:33,663 --> 00:38:36,793
Buying Epic is not like… Oh, okay

964
00:38:36,886 --> 00:38:40,636
just, I'm, we… All right, so I, I will,
I will admit a lot of my Epic hate is

965
00:38:40,636 --> 00:38:47,196
performative, except for the part where
the Epic Games Store kinda runs like ass.

966
00:38:47,785 --> 00:38:48,135
Yeah.

967
00:38:48,146 --> 00:38:49,976
it still, it still runs like ass

968
00:38:50,075 --> 00:38:54,875
it's… The, the, the issues that I have
with Epic is that the game store sucks.

969
00:38:54,925 --> 00:39:00,125
They are so far behind in terms
of features compared to Steam.

970
00:39:00,535 --> 00:39:05,515
Uh, but really the biggest thing
is that Epic, just like pretty much

971
00:39:05,535 --> 00:39:11,595
every other major corporation in
the games industry, are like s- at

972
00:39:11,595 --> 00:39:13,465
the crossroads of enshittification.

973
00:39:13,475 --> 00:39:17,825
Like, everything about what they
do is about maximizing shareholder

974
00:39:17,825 --> 00:39:21,455
profits and not about, like,
actually making good games.

975
00:39:21,895 --> 00:39:25,695
It's about making addictive shit
and ruining the gaming industry.

976
00:39:27,075 --> 00:39:30,525
That's, that's the real critique
I have of, uh, of Epic if you

977
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:31,585
w- if you were interested.

978
00:39:32,383 --> 00:39:41,883
it's hard because I agree, but they give
back the game community better than most.

979
00:39:42,073 --> 00:39:45,583
I just wish they would…
That, that's what is so hard.

980
00:39:45,683 --> 00:39:49,743
Like, Fortnite might be addicting,
but it is, uh, in, in, in, in some

981
00:39:49,743 --> 00:39:54,713
of its mechanics and all that it is,
but it is, it is not as bad, and I, I

982
00:39:54,713 --> 00:39:57,383
know this is a horrible way to put it,
but, like, it's not as bad as a lot

983
00:39:57,383 --> 00:39:59,453
of the more addictive games out there.

984
00:39:59,663 --> 00:40:02,483
They're on the cusp of
the enshittification.

985
00:40:02,493 --> 00:40:06,333
They're not… I would not put them
as the biggest contributor to it.

986
00:40:06,343 --> 00:40:08,743
They're v- they're on,
they're a blip on it

987
00:40:09,428 --> 00:40:13,748
know, for what it's worth, the
Epic Games Store is technic- the

988
00:40:13,748 --> 00:40:17,148
Epic Games, uh, company is still
technically privately owned.

989
00:40:17,417 --> 00:40:18,227
Yeah, that's true.

990
00:40:18,588 --> 00:40:18,958
So it's

991
00:40:19,087 --> 00:40:19,907
And I mean,

992
00:40:20,198 --> 00:40:20,648
open

993
00:40:20,875 --> 00:40:21,025
But--

994
00:40:21,268 --> 00:40:21,938
shareholders.

995
00:40:21,968 --> 00:40:22,028
I

996
00:40:22,137 --> 00:40:23,457
and I do give them credit

997
00:40:23,515 --> 00:40:27,355
have, it does have sh- um,
essentially shares though.

998
00:40:27,395 --> 00:40:28,605
It's got ownerships.

999
00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:29,100
Like,

1000
00:40:29,335 --> 00:40:31,075
So there's a lot of owners in it.

1001
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,280
a significant amount of them

1002
00:40:32,515 --> 00:40:33,875
Tencent, Disney,

1003
00:40:34,515 --> 00:40:38,805
I will give them credit because they
do do things like the Epic MegaGrants.

1004
00:40:39,045 --> 00:40:42,635
The, and it, it hasn't
just been, um, uh, heroic.

1005
00:40:42,655 --> 00:40:45,195
They gave, uh, one to
Lutris, I believe, right?

1006
00:40:45,195 --> 00:40:48,025
Like, they've given a bunch
of grants to open source.

1007
00:40:48,115 --> 00:40:48,875
That's pretty cool.

1008
00:40:49,175 --> 00:40:53,515
They also m- uh, when after they
delisted Unreal Tournament, uh, the

1009
00:40:53,515 --> 00:40:57,565
Unreal Tournament games, they made them
freely available on archive.org, right?

1010
00:40:57,595 --> 00:41:02,005
And gave the license o- over to archive
to be able to distribute those games.

1011
00:41:02,075 --> 00:41:03,015
That's cool, right?

1012
00:41:03,015 --> 00:41:07,035
Like, they do do cool things,
but also, like, they fucking

1013
00:41:07,055 --> 00:41:11,575
abandoned Unreal Tournament,
and that is unforgivable to me.

1014
00:41:11,625 --> 00:41:13,015
So I don't know, dude.

1015
00:41:13,145 --> 00:41:13,925
It just makes-

1016
00:41:14,149 --> 00:41:14,699
yeah

1017
00:41:15,694 --> 00:41:17,474
from, is from a place where

1018
00:41:17,753 --> 00:41:18,043
It's a,

1019
00:41:18,174 --> 00:41:18,994
them to do better

1020
00:41:19,173 --> 00:41:20,503
it's a place of pain.

1021
00:41:20,513 --> 00:41:23,523
I, I've personally been
wronged by Tim Sweeney, dude.

1022
00:41:24,467 --> 00:41:27,797
I think Tim Sweeney's the, is the,
is the big problem, but also the…

1023
00:41:28,137 --> 00:41:31,247
If they put in a new CEO, like if
he like, "Oh, I'm gonna step down,

1024
00:41:31,247 --> 00:41:33,247
put a, we'll put a CEO in," 'cause

1025
00:41:33,289 --> 00:41:34,369
Yeah, it would be even worse.

1026
00:41:34,447 --> 00:41:35,597
he owns 51%.

1027
00:41:35,877 --> 00:41:36,047
But,

1028
00:41:36,269 --> 00:41:36,479
Yeah

1029
00:41:37,187 --> 00:41:38,687
what would happen then?

1030
00:41:38,687 --> 00:41:39,857
Would it get worse or better?

1031
00:41:39,857 --> 00:41:41,467
I don't like T- Tim Sweeney.

1032
00:41:41,467 --> 00:41:44,057
I think he's kind of weird, but he's
also been part of the reason why

1033
00:41:44,057 --> 00:41:46,757
some of these things have gone okay.

1034
00:41:47,967 --> 00:41:48,357
I agree.

1035
00:41:48,377 --> 00:41:52,137
Unreal Tournament is… You can
still go in there, and you can

1036
00:41:52,137 --> 00:41:53,227
tweak it, and you can play with it.

1037
00:41:53,227 --> 00:41:59,157
Like, they have their, like,
uh, of version of the newest

1038
00:41:59,197 --> 00:42:00,447
Unreal, which is interesting.

1039
00:42:00,447 --> 00:42:01,817
I found it very fascinating.

1040
00:42:01,817 --> 00:42:02,107
But,

1041
00:42:02,667 --> 00:42:03,037
Yeah

1042
00:42:03,427 --> 00:42:05,367
he's also gone on to shit on Steam.

1043
00:42:05,407 --> 00:42:06,667
Like, he has this vendetta.

1044
00:42:06,667 --> 00:42:10,487
If he… And I think if he didn't have
the vendetta against Valve, Steam, and

1045
00:42:10,487 --> 00:42:15,037
all this other, uh, crap like Linux,
even though he has supported stuff with

1046
00:42:15,037 --> 00:42:19,367
Linux, but he's like, "Well, Fortnite's
not gonna be on Linux," and, or whatever.

1047
00:42:20,274 --> 00:42:20,474
He's

1048
00:42:20,527 --> 00:42:21,477
That's the type of stu-

1049
00:42:21,484 --> 00:42:22,364
Valve's position

1050
00:42:23,147 --> 00:42:28,597
Yeah, that's the part where I'm like,
billionaires just doing fricking

1051
00:42:29,027 --> 00:42:30,647
dick-measuring is kind of what it feels

1052
00:42:30,766 --> 00:42:30,926
Ja.

1053
00:42:31,007 --> 00:42:32,387
I just hate that.

1054
00:42:32,457 --> 00:42:32,827
So that's the

1055
00:42:32,887 --> 00:42:33,086
Ja.

1056
00:42:33,097 --> 00:42:36,487
where I'm like, I'm like, "Okay, whatever,
Tim Sweeney." And, and then he does

1057
00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:41,337
stuff like that, and I'm like, "Okay,
awesome, cool." you have to get into

1058
00:42:41,357 --> 00:42:45,157
this whole battle where the other side
doesn't even acknowledge you, and you're

1059
00:42:45,157 --> 00:42:50,307
just fighting even though Gabe Newell's
just chilling on his fricking boat.

1060
00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:54,266
I think, I feel like if he actually
focused his efforts on making

1061
00:42:55,016 --> 00:42:57,186
the Epic Games Store a little
better instead of trying to like

1062
00:42:57,186 --> 00:42:59,186
spite Valve for no reason, I feel

1063
00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,749
agree

1064
00:42:59,936 --> 00:43:01,636
been a little further along.

1065
00:43:02,036 --> 00:43:06,516
Like, we're not criticizing Epic because
we outright hate, hate Epic, not like

1066
00:43:06,516 --> 00:43:12,106
some people or some subreddits, but we
want, we want, we, we're doing it from

1067
00:43:12,106 --> 00:43:13,796
a place of we want them to do better.

1068
00:43:14,366 --> 00:43:14,596
'Cause

1069
00:43:14,671 --> 00:43:15,151
There's

1070
00:43:15,156 --> 00:43:19,126
g- ultimately, we want all game companies
to do better, even Valve, right?

1071
00:43:19,363 --> 00:43:19,593
Yeah

1072
00:43:19,941 --> 00:43:22,151
has gotten better, their
UI has gotten better.

1073
00:43:22,191 --> 00:43:25,651
They just started out, I don't know
what tech they were using, but they

1074
00:43:25,651 --> 00:43:30,861
should've just copied Valve and using
React and using, um, they use a PHP

1075
00:43:30,871 --> 00:43:33,191
backend, which I don't know if I for.

1076
00:43:33,191 --> 00:43:38,641
But, like, Epic could have gotten
much better, and they chose not to.

1077
00:43:38,651 --> 00:43:41,551
If they wanted to, l- they, they
could give it to me and I could

1078
00:43:41,551 --> 00:43:43,951
get them something in a year that
would be better than what they have.

1079
00:43:44,811 --> 00:43:49,141
Um, but build a… And I,
I could guarantee that.

1080
00:43:49,321 --> 00:43:53,661
That's a guarantee from me, um, if they
gave me the money to do it full time.

1081
00:43:53,891 --> 00:44:00,351
But, uh, it's, it's systems that go
with it that Steam includes, right?

1082
00:44:00,351 --> 00:44:04,661
So, uh, matchmaking and a, a bunch of
those different systems that we don't

1083
00:44:04,661 --> 00:44:06,031
talk about, the community systems.

1084
00:44:06,041 --> 00:44:08,601
Those are… Those take a
lot of work to get right.

1085
00:44:08,961 --> 00:44:10,991
Valve spent a lot of
years working on that.

1086
00:44:11,231 --> 00:44:14,581
You can't expect Epic Games to have
that overnight, but they definitely

1087
00:44:14,581 --> 00:44:19,501
could be working towards stuff faster,
and I don't feel like they are So

1088
00:44:19,621 --> 00:44:20,971
they could hire more engineers.

1089
00:44:20,971 --> 00:44:23,871
There's plenty of engineers that need
work now, and they could real- and they

1090
00:44:23,871 --> 00:44:27,241
have the money instead of… Like, it's
cool that they give away free games, but

1091
00:44:27,241 --> 00:44:31,761
they could, you know, maybe redirect that
into jobs for engineers and just really

1092
00:44:31,771 --> 00:44:35,911
pump out some really good, uh, stuff
for Epic, but for the Epic Games Store.

1093
00:44:35,911 --> 00:44:40,531
But w- we're gonna go more and more
into just me bitching about it.

1094
00:44:41,531 --> 00:44:42,101
Yeah.

1095
00:44:42,211 --> 00:44:44,901
Yeah, which is why we need
to talk about something else.

1096
00:44:45,371 --> 00:44:50,771
The gacha games industry going
bankrupt, record pace in 2026.

1097
00:44:50,791 --> 00:44:54,451
Now, some may consider this to be a good
thing because they dislike gacha games,

1098
00:44:55,521 --> 00:44:58,441
but I think bankruptcy is bad in general

1099
00:44:59,358 --> 00:44:59,898
At first,

1100
00:44:59,901 --> 00:45:00,461
guys are, a

1101
00:45:00,598 --> 00:45:00,978
yeah

1102
00:45:01,021 --> 00:45:05,151
like, lot of these companies used to
be like actual game developers that

1103
00:45:05,161 --> 00:45:09,381
were essentially forced to make these,
uh, because there's basically no

1104
00:45:09,381 --> 00:45:11,841
room for like mid-range games, right?

1105
00:45:11,841 --> 00:45:12,501
So to speak, right?

1106
00:45:12,530 --> 00:45:13,650
It's what the market demanded

1107
00:45:14,471 --> 00:45:17,761
Yeah, it's kinda like how, um,
there's no middle class anymore.

1108
00:45:18,521 --> 00:45:20,831
There's no middle-range PC anymore.

1109
00:45:21,431 --> 00:45:23,531
There's no middle-range car anymore

1110
00:45:24,562 --> 00:45:25,292
They're not raw.

1111
00:45:25,292 --> 00:45:29,232
It's either, like, expensive or you
have to get the cheapest thing possible.

1112
00:45:29,312 --> 00:45:30,472
There's no middle class

1113
00:45:31,307 --> 00:45:34,537
yeah, like developers don't make double
A games, and that's why a lot of these

1114
00:45:34,567 --> 00:45:41,647
gacha companies ended up making gacha
games to survive Now, now on one hand

1115
00:45:41,647 --> 00:45:45,017
it means there's less gacha games, but
like truth be told, they live and die.

1116
00:45:45,127 --> 00:45:47,107
It's a super competitive market in Asia.

1117
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:51,010
To who I wouldn't wa- it sucks.

1118
00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:54,630
It really sucks, but I would never
wanna work on a gacha game, just

1119
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,440
'cause I- that's gotta be so stressful.

1120
00:45:57,152 --> 00:45:57,582
Mm-hmm.

1121
00:45:58,001 --> 00:45:58,771
Absolutely.

1122
00:45:58,821 --> 00:45:59,191
Plus

1123
00:45:59,450 --> 00:46:01,270
the trends, and you have to be, uh

1124
00:46:02,270 --> 00:46:05,690
You have to be… Yeah, and plus you
have to, like, design a game that's

1125
00:46:05,740 --> 00:46:09,520
easy enough to play on your phone too,
'cause, like, this is g- this is gonna,

1126
00:46:09,550 --> 00:46:12,290
this is gonna sound like a bit of a
hot take from me, but, like, a lot of

1127
00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:17,710
gacha games are veering too closely to,
like, being actual games with stupid

1128
00:46:17,710 --> 00:46:22,980
monetary systems, and I kinda just like
it when gacha games just let me play

1129
00:46:22,990 --> 00:46:26,530
on my phone for like 10 minutes, do my
dailies, and then just call it a day.

1130
00:46:27,020 --> 00:46:30,290
They don't, they don't expect too
much out of me, the player That

1131
00:46:30,516 --> 00:46:31,716
the time economy.

1132
00:46:31,836 --> 00:46:35,996
I, yeah, I, I think the best way to put
it is with a lot of games and a lot of

1133
00:46:35,996 --> 00:46:39,146
these gacha games and a lot of these
live services, it's the time economy,

1134
00:46:39,146 --> 00:46:41,426
and people just don't have time anymore.

1135
00:46:42,046 --> 00:46:45,816
Um, they're too busy trying to survive at
this point or they can't afford anything.

1136
00:46:45,816 --> 00:46:48,676
And so that's also, I think,
another reason why these places are

1137
00:46:48,676 --> 00:46:52,106
failing more and more is because
the time economy is so expensive.

1138
00:46:52,216 --> 00:46:54,536
Everything's expensive,
including your time

1139
00:46:55,536 --> 00:46:55,926
Right.

1140
00:46:55,976 --> 00:46:59,836
Like I, on, on the face of it sounds
like I would like a game like Zenless

1141
00:46:59,836 --> 00:47:04,796
Zone Zero, but like, you need so
much fucking time to play that game.

1142
00:47:05,866 --> 00:47:06,356
It's a lot

1143
00:47:06,615 --> 00:47:06,685
Steam Deck

1144
00:47:06,686 --> 00:47:09,746
Like gacha games are made to
like play on the like commute,

1145
00:47:09,776 --> 00:47:13,586
on like a train or some shit like
that, for like five minutes or so

1146
00:47:14,045 --> 00:47:15,285
That's what they used to be, wasn't it?

1147
00:47:15,285 --> 00:47:16,055
But I don't

1148
00:47:16,386 --> 00:47:17,966
That's what they kind of still are.

1149
00:47:18,777 --> 00:47:19,177
Okay.

1150
00:47:19,206 --> 00:47:19,576
like,

1151
00:47:20,677 --> 00:47:21,197
I feel like

1152
00:47:21,226 --> 00:47:25,106
the fuck wants to play a game
like that on a bus or a train?

1153
00:47:26,211 --> 00:47:26,581
True.

1154
00:47:27,581 --> 00:47:32,351
The people I know that play gacha games,
like in m- in like some friends I, I know,

1155
00:47:32,361 --> 00:47:34,781
they, they spend so much time with it.

1156
00:47:35,911 --> 00:47:37,711
Um, don't know.

1157
00:47:37,781 --> 00:47:41,181
Everyone I've heard that do- does gacha
games, they spend too much time on

1158
00:47:41,181 --> 00:47:44,611
it as opposed to… Uh, that's why I
equate it to it takes a lot of time.

1159
00:47:45,391 --> 00:47:45,831
But

1160
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:49,970
Well, I mean, it's one thing if
you're sitting on a train doing

1161
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:52,830
nothing, you need something to,
and you want something to do.

1162
00:47:53,235 --> 00:47:54,065
That's not what they're doing

1163
00:47:54,190 --> 00:47:56,260
if you're… Yeah, that's
not what they're doing.

1164
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:58,950
Like, what they're doing is
they're taking their, their u-

1165
00:47:59,010 --> 00:48:00,820
it's their hobby, so to speak.

1166
00:48:01,310 --> 00:48:02,580
Which, I mean, I'm not

1167
00:48:02,591 --> 00:48:02,901
Which is,

1168
00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:03,560
them for that

1169
00:48:03,961 --> 00:48:07,491
yeah, which is fine, but yeah.

1170
00:48:08,791 --> 00:48:14,161
It gets, it gets… It's an addicting
behavior because what… A hobby can be

1171
00:48:14,161 --> 00:48:17,841
dropped and you're like, "Oh, okay, I'm
gonna go do something else." when it

1172
00:48:17,851 --> 00:48:21,641
becomes like a life, life service and
uses these dark patterns the, to then

1173
00:48:21,641 --> 00:48:24,381
addict you to where like, "I'm gonna
miss out on something," they, they want

1174
00:48:24,751 --> 00:48:31,661
this r- this feeling of if you leave,
missing something, then they've got you.

1175
00:48:31,661 --> 00:48:34,791
And they, I, if they did that like
once a year, that's a different story.

1176
00:48:34,871 --> 00:48:38,721
I think having, um, events where it's
like, "This is, you never wanna miss

1177
00:48:38,721 --> 00:48:42,021
this event. This is gonna be awesome,"
it can be very like fun, like a release

1178
00:48:42,021 --> 00:48:43,471
of a new console, stuff like that.

1179
00:48:43,841 --> 00:48:48,411
They try to replicate that every
week with some of these games.

1180
00:48:48,471 --> 00:48:50,161
So I don't know.

1181
00:48:50,971 --> 00:48:51,561
I don't like it

1182
00:48:51,820 --> 00:48:55,390
there has been an interesting trend
where a lot of them are being preserved

1183
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,770
in a way, where they're releasing
like, sometimes they're releasing

1184
00:48:58,790 --> 00:49:03,490
offline versions of them as like a
full game, and they're pretty fun.

1185
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,440
Uh, I think Mega Man X Dive is one.

1186
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,580
Maybe some games aren't--
don't deserve to live.

1187
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:11,020
They should just be lost
to the sands of time.

1188
00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:14,520
No, I, I, I even think with some of
these gacha games, yeah, converting

1189
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,960
them into offline is a great way to go

1190
00:49:16,668 --> 00:49:17,828
Yeah, Capcom did this.

1191
00:49:17,868 --> 00:49:18,668
They, they made it a

1192
00:49:18,676 --> 00:49:19,026
Ja

1193
00:49:19,058 --> 00:49:19,468
play.

1194
00:49:20,188 --> 00:49:24,938
wouldn't buy it for 30 bucks, but
if it's on sale for like bucks,

1195
00:49:24,938 --> 00:49:26,548
you can s- it's pretty good

1196
00:49:27,548 --> 00:49:29,298
Well, you must not be a
big enough Mega Man fan.

1197
00:49:29,508 --> 00:49:33,608
If it was Half-Life and a Half-Life
gacha game and it was offline, I

1198
00:49:33,608 --> 00:49:34,968
would've bought it for 50 bucks

1199
00:49:35,777 --> 00:49:38,207
All right, well, like, okay then.

1200
00:49:38,702 --> 00:49:40,472
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just

1201
00:49:41,317 --> 00:49:43,237
right, well could be worse though.

1202
00:49:44,057 --> 00:49:44,417
could be Nvidia

1203
00:49:45,508 --> 00:49:45,988
Hmm.

1204
00:49:47,085 --> 00:49:47,375
Do you guys

1205
00:49:47,379 --> 00:49:48,239
Ja, wollen sie die

1206
00:49:49,108 --> 00:49:51,388
Yeah, this is crazy

1207
00:49:52,301 --> 00:49:55,411
So they're embedded in missiles now.

1208
00:49:55,721 --> 00:49:57,811
Uh, I thought they'd be, I thought
they would be embedded in, like,

1209
00:49:57,811 --> 00:50:01,261
missile targeting systems, not
fucking the missiles themselves

1210
00:50:02,261 --> 00:50:03,911
I have a lot of questions
when it comes to this.

1211
00:50:03,941 --> 00:50:06,981
I have not read this article
because you posted it, I think,

1212
00:50:07,331 --> 00:50:08,851
was it last night or, or today?

1213
00:50:09,691 --> 00:50:11,421
What does this entail?

1214
00:50:11,431 --> 00:50:15,591
'Cause I don't know if it n- yeah,
like if-- They can be self-guided.

1215
00:50:16,431 --> 00:50:19,681
I don't know if it needs an NVIDIA
chip, if they're just reaching out

1216
00:50:19,681 --> 00:50:23,171
to stuff because they can't get what
these are normally designed with.

1217
00:50:23,641 --> 00:50:25,661
Um, I don't know if it needs full AI.

1218
00:50:25,811 --> 00:50:30,791
These, these missiles are designed
to, uh, in their own form and fashion.

1219
00:50:30,791 --> 00:50:33,541
They don't need a specialized,
really expensive chip.

1220
00:50:34,541 --> 00:50:37,291
It's weird, unless they're adapting

1221
00:50:37,770 --> 00:50:44,230
So the, so Russia's S-71 Monochrome
cruise missiles use the Jetson Orin

1222
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,260
NX, uh, this little thing here or
whatever's in this little thing here, for

1223
00:50:49,323 --> 00:50:50,423
Mmm.

1224
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,010
So they're effectively putting in
a super-powered Raspberry Pi in

1225
00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:55,720
these co- in these, uh, missiles.

1226
00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:56,739
Yeah.

1227
00:50:57,590 --> 00:50:58,430
And, uh,

1228
00:50:58,611 --> 00:51:03,921
Superpowered is very under…
It's very much completely

1229
00:51:03,921 --> 00:51:05,041
different than a Raspberry Pi.

1230
00:51:05,211 --> 00:51:07,761
This is so powerful with the Tensor Core.

1231
00:51:07,771 --> 00:51:08,401
Sorry, continue

1232
00:51:09,416 --> 00:51:13,806
Right, but essentially it comes
with a bunch of, uh, NVIDIA's own AI

1233
00:51:13,806 --> 00:51:16,246
engines, CUDA cores, all that stuff.

1234
00:51:16,746 --> 00:51:19,756
Makes it great for things
like targeting systems.

1235
00:51:19,766 --> 00:51:22,556
Like honestly, I'm surprised they put
them in the fucking missiles and not

1236
00:51:22,556 --> 00:51:25,466
like in the targeting systems for these

1237
00:51:25,591 --> 00:51:26,451
If they're self-guided.

1238
00:51:26,461 --> 00:51:28,521
It depends on if they're self-guided
or if the targeting s- if

1239
00:51:28,521 --> 00:51:29,561
they're using a targeting system.

1240
00:51:29,561 --> 00:51:30,191
I agree with you.

1241
00:51:30,431 --> 00:51:33,951
Like, I don't know, like, 'cause
jammers, other things, that's why they

1242
00:51:33,951 --> 00:51:36,141
usually like to do self-guided missiles.

1243
00:51:36,141 --> 00:51:41,641
I just don't know how… I don't know the
ins and outs of the Ukraine-Russia war

1244
00:51:41,641 --> 00:51:43,011
that when it comes to this type of attack

1245
00:51:43,878 --> 00:51:45,688
been going on for like a
couple years at this point,

1246
00:51:45,857 --> 00:51:49,077
It, it's been going on for a long time, so
I'm not shocked that they're reaching out

1247
00:51:49,077 --> 00:51:55,837
and trying to figure out ways to create
their tech in unorthodox or ways, right?

1248
00:51:55,877 --> 00:51:56,527
And so this

1249
00:51:56,577 --> 00:51:56,927
Hmm.

1250
00:51:57,167 --> 00:51:57,717
interesting

1251
00:51:57,932 --> 00:52:03,142
the U- the US I believe still has pretty
heavy san- very heavy sanctions on Russia,

1252
00:52:03,627 --> 00:52:03,927
Yeah

1253
00:52:04,097 --> 00:52:04,367
Yeah

1254
00:52:04,802 --> 00:52:05,582
being among them.

1255
00:52:05,592 --> 00:52:09,252
So Nvidia claims they have no
idea how they end up in Russia.

1256
00:52:09,542 --> 00:52:11,372
And, you know, they're,
these aren't supposed to be

1257
00:52:11,372 --> 00:52:12,712
designed for military purposes.

1258
00:52:12,712 --> 00:52:16,792
They're supposed to be designed for
students and developers and stuff,

1259
00:52:17,367 --> 00:52:17,747
Yeah.

1260
00:52:18,082 --> 00:52:18,092
startups

1261
00:52:18,657 --> 00:52:24,187
These, these are like AI ASIC boards,
if I r- understand it correctly.

1262
00:52:24,187 --> 00:52:32,397
Like, these are less Raspberry Pi and
more, um, Cyclone, um, development boards.

1263
00:52:32,397 --> 00:52:34,897
What, Cyclone, what, what's
the term that I'm looking for?

1264
00:52:35,757 --> 00:52:41,827
What gamers use to, like, make, uh,
um, like hardware-based emulators?

1265
00:52:42,154 --> 00:52:42,164
FPGAs

1266
00:52:43,217 --> 00:52:43,367
FPGA.

1267
00:52:44,027 --> 00:52:46,937
It's, it's m- it's closer to
that than it is a Raspberry Pi,

1268
00:52:46,967 --> 00:52:48,207
if I understand it correctly.

1269
00:52:49,207 --> 00:52:52,047
Yeah, I mean, uh, fuck man, I don't know.

1270
00:52:52,347 --> 00:52:52,687
They, they

1271
00:52:52,734 --> 00:52:55,734
It should be plenty of power for
what they're needing to, to do.

1272
00:52:56,004 --> 00:53:01,194
Um, if they've adapted this, this is,
this is much m- this is probably a lot

1273
00:53:01,194 --> 00:53:05,504
cheaper to make that type of system with
this type of chip than it would be through

1274
00:53:05,504 --> 00:53:07,574
a contractor that charges so much more.

1275
00:53:08,764 --> 00:53:10,984
Um, they're probably just third party.

1276
00:53:10,984 --> 00:53:15,334
They're probably just buying it
from multiple places and just

1277
00:53:15,354 --> 00:53:19,814
getting it shipped in, uh, through
grounds means, uh, into Russia.

1278
00:53:19,834 --> 00:53:25,044
Like, the… I don't think NVIDIA's
directly doing it, but, uh, it

1279
00:53:25,054 --> 00:53:26,984
doesn't look good for NVIDIA either

1280
00:53:28,215 --> 00:53:28,685
Right.

1281
00:53:28,826 --> 00:53:31,236
Did this have an effect
on their stock price?

1282
00:53:32,215 --> 00:53:33,185
Uh, well, this

1283
00:53:33,202 --> 00:53:33,672
Follow in

1284
00:53:33,745 --> 00:53:36,135
yesterday Let's find out.

1285
00:53:37,135 --> 00:53:40,065
Probably not as much as
we expected, to be honest

1286
00:53:40,752 --> 00:53:40,762
Umph

1287
00:53:41,762 --> 00:53:43,842
But sh- let's see.

1288
00:53:45,262 --> 00:53:49,342
Oh, NVIDIA scales back funding
guarantee for Ohio OpenAI data center.

1289
00:53:49,462 --> 00:53:50,192
Interesting.

1290
00:53:51,102 --> 00:53:54,202
not the topic we're talking about
today, but interesting to see.

1291
00:53:54,292 --> 00:53:59,732
Um, essentially, but like how
can NVIDIA really regulate this?

1292
00:53:59,732 --> 00:54:03,732
'Cause fucking their chips get
smuggled out to China somehow, and

1293
00:54:03,732 --> 00:54:05,202
probably smuggled out to Russia too.

1294
00:54:06,614 --> 00:54:09,804
It's hard to com- like, uh, we're
fighting a, a different battle.

1295
00:54:09,804 --> 00:54:12,704
It should be sanctioned and, and we
should be closing it down on another

1296
00:54:12,714 --> 00:54:14,594
f- the whole Ukraine-Russia thing.

1297
00:54:14,594 --> 00:54:20,564
But, like, it's really telling that
they're able to adapt to this type

1298
00:54:20,564 --> 00:54:23,784
of technology, and it's gonna make
warfare cheaper if they keep on

1299
00:54:23,784 --> 00:54:26,184
doing this type of thing, 'cause
this has gotta be dr- like I said,

1300
00:54:26,624 --> 00:54:32,434
drastically cheaper than going through,
like a military industrial, uh, uh,

1301
00:54:33,064 --> 00:54:33,734
Contractor.

1302
00:54:34,184 --> 00:54:34,934
contractor.

1303
00:54:35,104 --> 00:54:35,704
Those th- those

1304
00:54:35,794 --> 00:54:36,024
The…

1305
00:54:36,494 --> 00:54:39,214
They way overcharge for
things, but that's not a

1306
00:54:39,364 --> 00:54:39,614
Yeah

1307
00:54:39,834 --> 00:54:42,354
to make sure war is expensive
'cause we don't want it,

1308
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:43,420
Right.

1309
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:48,220
The, the, I think the real question
here is, like, NVIDIA didn't know this

1310
00:54:48,220 --> 00:54:55,250
was happening, but, like, if these,
uh, chips, these, you know, NUCs, I

1311
00:54:55,250 --> 00:54:59,040
don't even know what you wanna call
them, are included in missiles, then

1312
00:54:59,050 --> 00:55:02,600
they must be being purchased at scale.

1313
00:55:02,650 --> 00:55:06,500
Like, I mean, they're, they must
have thousands of these coming into

1314
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:12,770
the country, either being smuggled
in or being, in some way, like,

1315
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:14,590
on their b- on NVIDIA's books.

1316
00:55:14,590 --> 00:55:18,410
Like, there, there has to be some kind of
statistical analysis that they could do

1317
00:55:18,790 --> 00:55:22,830
to be like, "These are the vendors that
are very clearly buying and smuggling

1318
00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:28,940
these into Russia." Like, I, uh, it
seems very… I, I mean, dude, it's wild

1319
00:55:29,892 --> 00:55:32,222
This is more of a fail
on the sanct- sanctions.

1320
00:55:32,582 --> 00:55:37,332
Do you really think with all the th-
the crap that's going on with America

1321
00:55:37,342 --> 00:55:40,862
that we're actually even adher-
adhering to those sanctions very well?

1322
00:55:41,504 --> 00:55:41,744
Yeah.

1323
00:55:41,754 --> 00:55:43,694
Well, I mean, it's not just the US, right?

1324
00:55:43,704 --> 00:55:46,104
It's like a lot of
Western countries, so…

1325
00:55:46,204 --> 00:55:46,844
No,

1326
00:55:46,973 --> 00:55:47,333
too.

1327
00:55:47,984 --> 00:55:50,464
but y- yes.

1328
00:55:51,134 --> 00:55:53,754
You're not wrong, but we're the,
we're the leaders when it comes to

1329
00:55:53,754 --> 00:55:55,314
that type of, like, the sanctions.

1330
00:55:55,314 --> 00:55:57,334
We, we're the ones that
are f- are forcing it more.

1331
00:55:57,334 --> 00:55:59,364
I mean, so is Europe, don't get me wrong.

1332
00:56:00,044 --> 00:56:03,934
if one f- with one side falls and falters,
then it doesn't matter at that point.

1333
00:56:04,384 --> 00:56:07,354
If Europe was the one that
was faltering, then they could

1334
00:56:07,354 --> 00:56:08,294
just smuggle through Europe.

1335
00:56:08,574 --> 00:56:12,414
If r- if America falters and Japan all,
like that's the other side, they could

1336
00:56:12,414 --> 00:56:14,284
just smuggle it, or Br- or, or China.

1337
00:56:15,284 --> 00:56:18,464
if you don't have enough
countries adhering to sanctions,

1338
00:56:18,484 --> 00:56:19,374
then it doesn't matter.

1339
00:56:20,664 --> 00:56:24,454
And it, NVIDIA's a American
company too, so, um,

1340
00:56:24,604 --> 00:56:25,044
Yeah

1341
00:56:25,364 --> 00:56:28,364
comes back to us to
regulate our country or our

1342
00:56:28,691 --> 00:56:28,871
Yeah

1343
00:56:29,028 --> 00:56:31,048
an, it's an interesting conundrum too.

1344
00:56:31,128 --> 00:56:35,828
Uh, now that said, if you guys… It kinda
reminds me of the whole Palmer Luckey

1345
00:56:35,828 --> 00:56:38,588
situation with the mod, uh, Retro 64.

1346
00:56:38,618 --> 00:56:39,138
You guys hear about

1347
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:39,479
Ja.

1348
00:56:39,999 --> 00:56:40,140
Ja

1349
00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:44,330
And I mean, I don't know, I don't know
if it's as direct 'cause, you know,

1350
00:56:44,740 --> 00:56:48,280
Nvidia doesn't have a… Well, is it?

1351
00:56:48,310 --> 00:56:52,410
I don't think it's fair to say Nvidia
doesn't have military con- like

1352
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,560
some- something like investing in
military given how prominent AI is.

1353
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:02,030
But like, do you see Nvidia being affected
the same way in the sort of like, I w-

1354
00:57:02,030 --> 00:57:06,870
I don't wanna say culture war, but like
culture war that like the Mod Retro 64 is?

1355
00:57:07,870 --> 00:57:10,440
No, they're not being
swept up like the same way

1356
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,150
Yeah, 'cause a lot, I mean, 'cause
a lot of people don't like the

1357
00:57:15,150 --> 00:57:18,280
mod Retro 64 primarily because
of Palmer Luckey's involvement

1358
00:57:18,781 --> 00:57:19,091
Yeah.

1359
00:57:20,368 --> 00:57:24,368
Uh, and also 'cause there's also
a pretty good alternative too, uh,

1360
00:57:24,468 --> 00:57:27,428
either playing on original hardware
or playing on the Analogue 64.

1361
00:57:28,428 --> 00:57:33,648
Nvidia, in theory they have
alternatives like AMD, but in practice

1362
00:57:33,938 --> 00:57:35,128
there's nothing quite like Nvidia.

1363
00:57:35,138 --> 00:57:35,348
Yeah,

1364
00:57:36,409 --> 00:57:36,619
Right

1365
00:57:37,208 --> 00:57:38,808
that's the hard situation.

1366
00:57:38,808 --> 00:57:40,358
That's the hard little situation too.

1367
00:57:40,858 --> 00:57:44,148
Plus, can you really trust gamers
to be principled like that if AM-

1368
00:57:44,198 --> 00:57:46,028
if Nvidia turned out to… No?

1369
00:57:46,278 --> 00:57:49,208
I didn't think so either Yeah.

1370
00:57:49,228 --> 00:57:50,728
So this is the little thing.

1371
00:57:50,738 --> 00:57:56,868
It costs about 1,500 for your average
user to buy it, AKA us They, they don't,

1372
00:57:56,888 --> 00:57:58,268
they probably don't buy these NUCs though.

1373
00:57:58,268 --> 00:58:00,698
They pr- they definitely buy
some sort of module instead

1374
00:58:01,195 --> 00:58:01,395
Ja

1375
00:58:02,395 --> 00:58:02,785
Look, see?

1376
00:58:02,905 --> 00:58:03,495
There's our little

1377
00:58:03,530 --> 00:58:06,510
Probably buy whatever they can… Yeah,
they probably buy whatever they can get,

1378
00:58:06,685 --> 00:58:06,895
they

1379
00:58:07,310 --> 00:58:09,110
and then desolder it if they need to.

1380
00:58:09,110 --> 00:58:09,120
Yeah

1381
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:10,710
Yeah.

1382
00:58:11,710 --> 00:58:12,010
But,

1383
00:58:12,169 --> 00:58:15,249
I mean, Russia's infamous for
their software developers.

1384
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:18,319
not like they're not capable of, of

1385
00:58:19,018 --> 00:58:19,188
They're

1386
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:21,849
creating something like
this, yeah, and adapting it.

1387
00:58:21,859 --> 00:58:25,869
But it's also probably telling
too, like they just don't have

1388
00:58:25,879 --> 00:58:30,679
the equipment to do-- to keep up
their war, but they're finding ways

1389
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:35,509
Well, when you wanna kill someone,
all you really need is a rock.

1390
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:38,519
They can figure out ways
to do it, unfortunately.

1391
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:39,839
Ja

1392
00:58:40,158 --> 00:58:43,638
but speaking of killing things, Google.

1393
00:58:44,368 --> 00:58:45,068
You guys hear about this?

1394
00:58:45,735 --> 00:58:46,165
No

1395
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,110
So Google removed someone's
digital copy of the Lord of the

1396
00:58:51,110 --> 00:58:56,070
Rings trilogy They bought it on
like Google Movies or some shit.

1397
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:57,260
They've

1398
00:58:57,401 --> 00:58:57,761
Yeah

1399
00:58:58,580 --> 00:58:59,810
from their library

1400
00:59:00,810 --> 00:59:04,510
I've-- So Google Movies or whatever
it is, they went away from that.

1401
00:59:04,510 --> 00:59:06,870
I think it's been moved into
YouTube or something like that.

1402
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:07,170
Like,

1403
00:59:07,835 --> 00:59:08,435
Mm-hmm

1404
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:14,750
I honestly, I fucking have just
dropped Google all fucking together

1405
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,810
because they keep on doing this stuff
where they're like, they had like

1406
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:22,850
software that I liked using, podcasting
software, some other soft-- like movies.

1407
00:59:22,850 --> 00:59:26,020
I was buying some of my movies through
that, and then they like closed it down.

1408
00:59:26,020 --> 00:59:28,600
I'm like, "Okay, cool." used to that.

1409
00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:30,030
It was working fine.

1410
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,240
You didn't even have to
push any updates really.

1411
00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:36,820
Um, and then you folded it into s-
another service, which I like YouTube,

1412
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:40,660
but I don't want YouTube and my movies
mixed together 'cause then it just makes

1413
00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:42,890
it harder for me to distinguish them.

1414
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,770
And they-- This is so indicative
of them to just… It probably

1415
00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:50,120
got lost along the way too 'cause
they're just so incompetent now.

1416
00:59:50,260 --> 00:59:52,410
For developers, they're so incompetent

1417
00:59:53,072 --> 00:59:53,322
Yep

1418
00:59:54,322 --> 00:59:57,282
Well, and then there's also been a bit
of an update too since this happened.

1419
00:59:57,772 --> 01:00:02,392
So they gave him … So they
did give him a refund, and they

1420
01:00:02,461 --> 01:00:03,161
Which is good

1421
01:00:03,222 --> 01:00:07,032
watch it again, but apparently this
video requires payment to watch again

1422
01:00:08,032 --> 01:00:11,492
I- I'm just-- The way that they've
treated their users and not have

1423
01:00:11,492 --> 01:00:15,042
really good… don't, I just, I
don't like, I, I just hate it.

1424
01:00:15,132 --> 01:00:18,452
As a, as a, uh, engineer and someone
that develops software and using

1425
01:00:18,452 --> 01:00:19,792
Google products has just pissed me off.

1426
01:00:19,792 --> 01:00:20,902
That's why I don't use Google anymore.

1427
01:00:21,982 --> 01:00:24,812
Apple has its own issues,
but I don't have near…

1428
01:00:24,812 --> 01:00:29,102
Like, they've been so consistent
over the past few decades that

1429
01:00:29,102 --> 01:00:30,862
I just, yeah, stick to those

1430
01:00:30,963 --> 01:00:33,333
a favor, get Blu-ray.

1431
01:00:33,850 --> 01:00:34,290
Hmm.

1432
01:00:34,303 --> 01:00:35,413
Blu-ray, watch it.

1433
01:00:35,433 --> 01:00:36,293
I promise you it'll be a

1434
01:00:36,378 --> 01:00:36,668
Yeah

1435
01:00:36,683 --> 01:00:37,703
better experience

1436
01:00:38,703 --> 01:00:39,093
Yep

1437
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,160
much better experiences though, I mean,
you guys have… When's the last time

1438
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,160
you guys have seen Lord of the Rings?

1439
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,470
I'm sure you guys have seen it, right?

1440
01:00:45,993 --> 01:00:46,343
Never

1441
01:00:46,750 --> 01:00:47,350
Never?

1442
01:00:48,147 --> 01:00:49,677
Hey Gardiner, have you never
seen Lord of the Rings?

1443
01:00:50,919 --> 01:00:51,269
No.

1444
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:56,129
I saw, I, I once went with my youth
group, uh, when I was, like, a church

1445
01:00:56,409 --> 01:01:00,519
guy to see the last one in the movie
theater, and I wasn't paying attention.

1446
01:01:01,289 --> 01:01:06,289
I, I'm not a big, uh … I don't like
p- well, history … Not history.

1447
01:01:06,359 --> 01:01:08,799
Um, fantasy really.

1448
01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:09,749
I'm a sci-fi guy

1449
01:01:10,557 --> 01:01:17,277
I'm a bigger sci-fi guy, but like of
the Rings was so iconic growing up.

1450
01:01:17,357 --> 01:01:18,197
Oh my gosh.

1451
01:01:19,197 --> 01:01:21,927
I- it's one that I'd watch
the extended edition with my,

1452
01:01:22,007 --> 01:01:23,957
with my dad, and I could get--

1453
01:01:24,045 --> 01:01:24,455
Oh, really?

1454
01:01:25,107 --> 01:01:26,357
Oh yeah, and yeah

1455
01:01:26,366 --> 01:01:27,676
of the Rings is so good, Gardiner.

1456
01:01:27,706 --> 01:01:29,006
You need to watch it from the very

1457
01:01:29,041 --> 01:01:30,401
It really is good

1458
01:01:31,086 --> 01:01:32,906
can skip The Hobbit movies, to be honest.

1459
01:01:33,376 --> 01:01:36,116
But the original trilogy, mwah

1460
01:01:37,063 --> 01:01:42,373
Yeah, I've been in a, uh, I've been in
a weird place emotionally where, like,

1461
01:01:42,903 --> 01:01:47,233
watching old movies regardless of if I
would've liked them when I was younger or

1462
01:01:47,233 --> 01:01:50,963
not, it just… There's something about
old movies that are just comforting,

1463
01:01:50,963 --> 01:01:52,633
so I probably will give it a shot

1464
01:01:53,114 --> 01:01:53,384
Yeah.

1465
01:01:53,384 --> 01:01:56,964
You know, you know The Lord of
the Rings, uh, Return of the King,

1466
01:01:56,964 --> 01:01:58,884
the last one, won every Oscar

1467
01:01:59,833 --> 01:02:00,243
Oh, yeah.

1468
01:02:00,464 --> 01:02:00,814
Every

1469
01:02:01,043 --> 01:02:02,403
So it was like Clair Obscura

1470
01:02:02,863 --> 01:02:06,194
Well, no, Clair Obscur didn't win
every Oscar, I mean every game award

1471
01:02:06,505 --> 01:02:07,115
Oh, okay.

1472
01:02:07,139 --> 01:02:08,299
Well, it should have.

1473
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:10,569
It should have won everything

1474
01:02:11,124 --> 01:02:12,094
Best fighting game?

1475
01:02:12,104 --> 01:02:13,014
Okay, I see where you're

1476
01:02:13,137 --> 01:02:13,397
Best

1477
01:02:13,615 --> 01:02:13,995
Yeah.

1478
01:02:13,995 --> 01:02:16,415
Yeah, that's funny

1479
01:02:16,794 --> 01:02:19,204
But yeah, Lord of the Rings is
one of those seminal movies, man.

1480
01:02:19,214 --> 01:02:19,624
It's, it's

1481
01:02:19,655 --> 01:02:20,015
Mm-hmm.

1482
01:02:20,755 --> 01:02:21,265
Nice

1483
01:02:21,479 --> 01:02:23,669
That Matrix… Yeah

1484
01:02:23,694 --> 01:02:25,464
also like the books too, Gardiner

1485
01:02:26,579 --> 01:02:26,918
Maybe,

1486
01:02:27,361 --> 01:02:30,921
very, very long and very s- um,

1487
01:02:31,074 --> 01:02:31,784
Dense,

1488
01:02:31,971 --> 01:02:32,981
intense, yeah.

1489
01:02:33,394 --> 01:02:34,914
intense, dense.

1490
01:02:35,581 --> 01:02:35,801
Yeah

1491
01:02:35,984 --> 01:02:37,184
The Silmarillion too.

1492
01:02:37,324 --> 01:02:39,294
I tried reading it, like,
when I was in high school.

1493
01:02:39,294 --> 01:02:42,084
It was a lot, let's just say.

1494
01:02:43,084 --> 01:02:47,494
Uh, but I could probably read it now
since I'm a grown-up and not a stupid

1495
01:02:47,494 --> 01:02:52,124
high schooler Ah, but you know, you
know what has good writing though?

1496
01:02:53,137 --> 01:02:53,477
Hmm

1497
01:02:53,924 --> 01:02:54,824
game apparently.

1498
01:02:55,824 --> 01:02:59,374
Apparently the write- apparently
a writer for, um, this game

1499
01:02:59,374 --> 01:03:03,044
right here, Rideshare Simulator,
quote-unquote, stri- uh, Rideshare

1500
01:03:04,044 --> 01:03:04,754
Oh my God

1501
01:03:04,846 --> 01:03:08,736
replaced with AI, ChatGPT
allegedly, so she said.

1502
01:03:09,356 --> 01:03:09,576
But

1503
01:03:09,744 --> 01:03:12,714
This whole story is a ride,
like it's a ride-along.

1504
01:03:12,754 --> 01:03:15,464
Like it's crazy dr- uh, ride.

1505
01:03:16,114 --> 01:03:16,764
Sorry, continue.

1506
01:03:17,558 --> 01:03:18,418
No pun intended?

1507
01:03:19,754 --> 01:03:20,644
Well, it was intended.

1508
01:03:20,888 --> 01:03:22,088
Uh, well, here's my question though.

1509
01:03:22,088 --> 01:03:24,398
Who the fuck wants to play a game
about you being an Uber driver?

1510
01:03:25,398 --> 01:03:27,108
Dude, yeah

1511
01:03:27,258 --> 01:03:27,908
play it

1512
01:03:28,859 --> 01:03:32,109
Oh, l- uh, I, I, I
don't fucking know, man.

1513
01:03:33,259 --> 01:03:34,709
anyways, the CEO fired back.

1514
01:03:34,829 --> 01:03:39,699
He said that it wasn't written by AI,
but I would happily I would've done so in

1515
01:03:39,699 --> 01:03:41,119
retrospect, basically, is what he's saying

1516
01:03:42,119 --> 01:03:43,289
Dude, he goes back and forth.

1517
01:03:43,299 --> 01:03:45,669
He's like, "I don't know this
person and everything, but she's

1518
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,849
horrible." And it's like, "O- okay."

1519
01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:48,908
I've got

1520
01:03:48,989 --> 01:03:49,009
S-

1521
01:03:49,158 --> 01:03:51,238
I've got the quote, I've
got the quote right here.

1522
01:03:51,428 --> 01:03:51,798
Uh

1523
01:03:52,043 --> 01:03:55,663
like Trump to me, but
Uh, the way he acts, yeah

1524
01:03:56,663 --> 01:03:56,823
Dude, th-

1525
01:03:57,823 --> 01:03:58,163
What?

1526
01:03:58,253 --> 01:03:58,283
What?

1527
01:03:58,584 --> 01:04:00,244
This is fucking stupid, man.

1528
01:04:00,254 --> 01:04:04,454
You didn't have to blow up your game
over this And yeah, now they put…

1529
01:04:04,864 --> 01:04:07,574
When I put the, when I put the Steam
page in, they didn't have this AI

1530
01:04:07,634 --> 01:04:12,974
dis- they didn't have this AI, uh,
disclaimer, but now they do And

1531
01:04:13,053 --> 01:04:13,383
that's…

1532
01:04:13,824 --> 01:04:14,054
the

1533
01:04:14,173 --> 01:04:14,483
you go

1534
01:04:14,874 --> 01:04:18,664
story, campaign written by a team
of human writers, AI tools used for

1535
01:04:18,664 --> 01:04:20,614
voice generation, some localization.

1536
01:04:21,274 --> 01:04:25,674
Free ride mode includes AI-generated
passenger missions and localized dialogue.

1537
01:04:25,684 --> 01:04:28,604
Free rider mission, free ride
mode is separate from the

1538
01:04:28,604 --> 01:04:29,954
main campaign, can be skipped.

1539
01:04:30,374 --> 01:04:33,594
Who prefer to experience only
human… Do you know how stupid

1540
01:04:33,594 --> 01:04:34,794
this sounds on the face of it?

1541
01:04:35,164 --> 01:04:35,754
Just don't play a

1542
01:04:35,961 --> 01:04:36,111
Mhm.

1543
01:04:36,751 --> 01:04:37,191
Ja

1544
01:04:38,670 --> 01:04:41,680
Like, if I buy a game, I wanna
pl- I wanna play all the modes.

1545
01:04:42,850 --> 01:04:47,770
Unless it's Rush from, uh,
Battlefield 6 But fuck, man.

1546
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,360
I, I don't, I don't know, man.

1547
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:54,450
also shout outs to this extension
right here, AI Warning for Steam

1548
01:04:55,337 --> 01:04:55,857
Oh, yeah

1549
01:04:57,164 --> 01:05:03,664
They updated it to where, uh, they updated
it to where if it shows games that are

1550
01:05:03,684 --> 01:05:06,294
AI con- generated, it does this too.

1551
01:05:07,173 --> 01:05:08,063
That's awesome

1552
01:05:08,244 --> 01:05:08,644
Yeah,

1553
01:05:08,811 --> 01:05:11,401
Like fully AI generated
or just uses some AI?

1554
01:05:12,244 --> 01:05:15,124
Well, it has AI, it has
a disclosure basically

1555
01:05:15,907 --> 01:05:18,427
Yeah, that's my-- This is my only
problem with some of this where I'm

1556
01:05:18,427 --> 01:05:23,027
like, I think future there's gonna be
little bits of AI touching everything.

1557
01:05:23,587 --> 01:05:25,807
Not we think it is though.

1558
01:05:25,817 --> 01:05:28,047
Like to replace the
writer with AI is crazy.

1559
01:05:28,057 --> 01:05:29,907
That's, that's one where I'm
like, yeah, I wanna-- I don't--

1560
01:05:30,007 --> 01:05:31,577
I wanna avoid games like that.

1561
01:05:31,587 --> 01:05:37,247
But the, like I've mentioned before
in the past, I've used quote unquote

1562
01:05:37,307 --> 01:05:43,587
"AI" for a decade for writing a, um,
for writing code partially 'cause it,

1563
01:05:43,597 --> 01:05:49,457
it will give you, um, uh, predictive
analysis and stuff like that.

1564
01:05:49,657 --> 01:05:50,387
Um,

1565
01:05:50,572 --> 01:05:51,542
here's an interesting use

1566
01:05:51,607 --> 01:05:51,807
yeah

1567
01:05:52,022 --> 01:05:52,422
here, though.

1568
01:05:52,432 --> 01:05:57,632
It says here, "The AI generates responses
to the player's interrogations," for

1569
01:05:57,681 --> 01:06:01,091
That's also one that I think
would be very interesting is

1570
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:02,119
Yeah

1571
01:06:03,451 --> 01:06:06,091
uh, reactions and having
playthroughs be very different

1572
01:06:07,074 --> 01:06:07,444
Right.

1573
01:06:07,504 --> 01:06:08,714
And I, I can see a use for that.

1574
01:06:08,794 --> 01:06:12,604
I mean, I mean, you c- I mean,
you still have acc- It's not

1575
01:06:12,604 --> 01:06:14,364
like it hides the games entirely.

1576
01:06:14,404 --> 01:06:16,404
You can still hover to
see what it looks like.

1577
01:06:16,454 --> 01:06:22,254
Like game certifli- this game
certified looks like AI-generated ass

1578
01:06:22,567 --> 01:06:23,067
Yes

1579
01:06:24,067 --> 01:06:24,417
Yes

1580
01:06:24,574 --> 01:06:26,344
it doesn't look very fun
either, to be honest.

1581
01:06:27,684 --> 01:06:31,204
And when you click on the page, it tells
you immediately what's been AI generated.

1582
01:06:32,004 --> 01:06:36,924
See live AI gaming companion, what your
sidekick says is generated on the fly.

1583
01:06:36,934 --> 01:06:38,044
It's not pre-scripted.

1584
01:06:38,044 --> 01:06:41,014
Some AI, some artwork marketing
was created with AI assistance.

1585
01:06:41,894 --> 01:06:42,884
kinda dumb, to be honest

1586
01:06:43,893 --> 01:06:45,163
sound that bad though

1587
01:06:45,536 --> 01:06:46,846
Well, I mean, not the AI.

1588
01:06:46,916 --> 01:06:50,496
I mean, if, if it's like a real AI
companion, it's whatever, I guess.

1589
01:06:50,856 --> 01:06:51,016
But

1590
01:06:51,087 --> 01:06:51,697
Yeah.

1591
01:06:53,077 --> 01:06:58,707
Even the marketing not… Is like AI
assistance different than AI generated?

1592
01:06:59,597 --> 01:07:00,037
But yeah.

1593
01:07:00,157 --> 01:07:03,447
Sorry, I know I'm getting like very
much in the like minutia of things,

1594
01:07:03,447 --> 01:07:09,937
but it's… This is my problem with
a lot of this stuff, 'cause people

1595
01:07:09,937 --> 01:07:12,757
will hear AI and they're like, "Okay,
completely shut down," even though

1596
01:07:12,777 --> 01:07:14,387
there's a lot of tools that will help.

1597
01:07:14,637 --> 01:07:20,397
Heck, even uh, well, I, I don't really
like it, but in Canva has AI assistance

1598
01:07:20,397 --> 01:07:23,387
where you could s- maybe set up the
scenes and stuff like that more easily.

1599
01:07:23,887 --> 01:07:25,407
That's not the same though.

1600
01:07:25,417 --> 01:07:27,757
Like I, it… I don't know.

1601
01:07:27,767 --> 01:07:30,847
Making thumbnails in Canva is how
I do it, but if I relied on the

1602
01:07:30,847 --> 01:07:32,497
AI tools it'd look like garbage.

1603
01:07:32,857 --> 01:07:36,037
But if you use it to like set up
certain things or maybe cut certain

1604
01:07:36,037 --> 01:07:39,927
things up, a different thing than
just having the whole thing generated

1605
01:07:41,074 --> 01:07:43,654
Ah, this is the one where they
replaced the writers with ChatGPT.

1606
01:07:44,959 --> 01:07:45,989
To replace the what?

1607
01:07:46,774 --> 01:07:47,584
the writers.

1608
01:07:48,233 --> 01:07:48,923
Oh yeah

1609
01:07:49,044 --> 01:07:51,144
is the trail- this is the,
this is the YouTube section.

1610
01:07:52,384 --> 01:07:54,474
AI writing and voices, voice work.

1611
01:07:54,824 --> 01:07:55,474
AI slop.

1612
01:07:55,484 --> 01:07:57,104
Confirmed with the head writer
they were working on it, replaced

1613
01:07:57,104 --> 01:07:58,364
with ChatGPT mid-development.

1614
01:07:58,654 --> 01:08:00,284
How much AI did you use for this one?

1615
01:08:01,384 --> 01:08:01,734
All right.

1616
01:08:02,004 --> 01:08:03,614
I think they do deserve
the flak in this case.

1617
01:08:03,614 --> 01:08:03,824
They

1618
01:08:04,001 --> 01:08:04,091
Okay.

1619
01:08:04,134 --> 01:08:06,444
replaced some- re- they
replaced people's jobs

1620
01:08:07,161 --> 01:08:07,501
Yeah

1621
01:08:08,557 --> 01:08:11,377
Like if, if they're ma- not
making money and they need to

1622
01:08:11,397 --> 01:08:14,427
cut corners, uh, who knows?

1623
01:08:14,437 --> 01:08:14,887
Whatever.

1624
01:08:15,137 --> 01:08:20,167
But like, there is no need and
there's no way, in my opinion,

1625
01:08:20,167 --> 01:08:24,517
that ChatGPT is gonna do a better
job than an actual game writer.

1626
01:08:25,867 --> 01:08:31,267
the only way I see ChatGPT, and I'd
hopefully use a different model and use a

1627
01:08:31,267 --> 01:08:37,217
different system to include like real AI
interactions, like so there's like real…

1628
01:08:37,647 --> 01:08:41,307
Like it feels like you're interacting
with an AI, but fully scripted.

1629
01:08:41,537 --> 01:08:42,527
But that's a different type of game.

1630
01:08:42,527 --> 01:08:43,437
That's not this type of game

1631
01:08:44,506 --> 01:08:44,841
Right.

1632
01:08:44,841 --> 01:08:48,696
This, like, yeah, there's no ins-
there's n- there's nothing like that

1633
01:08:48,696 --> 01:08:50,446
in the game from what I understand.

1634
01:08:50,446 --> 01:08:53,756
I mean, obviously we haven't played
it 'cause it's not out yet, but

1635
01:08:53,826 --> 01:08:57,646
nothing in the description suggests
that it's, like, actually, like,

1636
01:08:57,656 --> 01:09:02,366
randomly generated on the fly and
not just… Yeah, whatever, whatever.

1637
01:09:02,366 --> 01:09:03,336
I don't really care anymore.

1638
01:09:04,396 --> 01:09:07,236
we can, we can, we can m- we
can memory hole this game.

1639
01:09:08,216 --> 01:09:09,126
let's talk about lawyers

1640
01:09:10,126 --> 01:09:10,996
Oh, fun.

1641
01:09:11,366 --> 01:09:12,446
My other favorite topic

1642
01:09:13,446 --> 01:09:19,566
So this lawyer right here, uh, Haley
McLean, is an IP lawyer for a bunch

1643
01:09:19,566 --> 01:09:25,466
of different studios and whatnot,
and essentially, w- uh, essentially

1644
01:09:25,566 --> 01:09:31,156
almost every, like, modern contract
nowadays includes a clause about

1645
01:09:31,206 --> 01:09:36,196
AI, namely anti-AI, whether it's
small indie devs to big publishers.

1646
01:09:37,266 --> 01:09:42,056
And, uh, she's noted that these sorts
of clauses and these sorts of legal

1647
01:09:42,056 --> 01:09:48,256
contracts have increased their prevalence
in the past couple of years due to AI

1648
01:09:48,613 --> 01:09:50,903
Wait, so what, what is she s- what's…

1649
01:09:51,224 --> 01:09:54,924
She's an A- she's an, uh, she's
an IP lawyer for, uh, Voyer Law,

1650
01:09:55,393 --> 01:09:55,983
Yes

1651
01:09:56,174 --> 01:10:01,324
basically talking about how essentially
more of these, like, contracts with,

1652
01:10:01,324 --> 01:10:05,984
like, game developers and publishers
are including anti-AI clauses

1653
01:10:06,525 --> 01:10:13,295
So the, the studios are including anti-AI
clauses in the contracts with publishers?

1654
01:10:14,042 --> 01:10:16,382
Stu- yeah, and publishers
also including them too

1655
01:10:16,741 --> 01:10:17,701
Oh, interesting.

1656
01:10:17,802 --> 01:10:18,382
end too,

1657
01:10:18,411 --> 01:10:18,871
Oh, cool

1658
01:10:19,059 --> 01:10:24,509
so they want like developers to not use
AI so it doesn't like shitify their game.

1659
01:10:24,839 --> 01:10:29,029
But vice versa, the publishers can't
be like, "Hey, you gotta put AI in this

1660
01:10:29,079 --> 01:10:32,029
as a marketing technique or something."

1661
01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:37,330
Here's, uh, here's an example that they
gave us here, a, uh, anonymized one.

1662
01:10:37,670 --> 01:10:41,650
Re- redacted to avoid the use
of generative AI systems and

1663
01:10:41,650 --> 01:10:43,130
software whenever possible.

1664
01:10:43,390 --> 01:10:47,630
Redacted shall not, A, use any generative
AI technologies or tools in the creation

1665
01:10:47,630 --> 01:10:51,640
of the game product, and B, insert
any game product into A- into any AI

1666
01:10:51,650 --> 01:10:55,750
system libraries or databases without
prior written consent from redacted.

1667
01:10:57,060 --> 01:11:02,530
This, a violation of this section redacted
is a material breach of this agreement.

1668
01:11:03,421 --> 01:11:04,031
Interesting.

1669
01:11:04,351 --> 01:11:04,781
I like that

1670
01:11:05,020 --> 01:11:13,400
so it's both not using AI systems in
the game, and B, not, uh, not putting

1671
01:11:13,410 --> 01:11:18,550
said game into an AI system afterwards,
which makes perfect sense to me

1672
01:11:19,550 --> 01:11:22,580
Also sounds like a stick control
how they wanna do it too, though

1673
01:11:23,465 --> 01:11:26,205
Yeah, it does sound like they wanna
control it too, which, I mean, it is their

1674
01:11:26,272 --> 01:11:30,042
So if they, if they will, if they
wanna put it in their own AI systems

1675
01:11:30,042 --> 01:11:31,222
or whatever, so they can choose.

1676
01:11:31,952 --> 01:11:32,352
I don't know.

1677
01:11:32,622 --> 01:11:33,202
It's interesting

1678
01:11:34,202 --> 01:11:34,702
Yeah, so essentially a lot of publishers,
a lot of bigger publishers have been

1679
01:11:34,702 --> 01:11:36,102
putting this in now, and as such, a
lot of smaller publishers have been

1680
01:11:36,102 --> 01:11:40,412
following suit 'cause that's just what
the big companies do nowadays And they've

1681
01:11:40,412 --> 01:11:45,422
noted that AI g- gen AI use has a major
business effect, uh, because of how

1682
01:11:45,422 --> 01:11:47,482
anti-AI their current perception is.

1683
01:11:48,922 --> 01:11:49,592
Let's see.

1684
01:11:49,712 --> 01:11:52,882
I don't wanna use gen AI in
my my community would hate it.

1685
01:11:53,682 --> 01:11:56,262
guys seen the Stellar Blade
AI-generated music video?

1686
01:11:56,332 --> 01:11:58,352
Oh my God, it's so fucking awful

1687
01:11:59,283 --> 01:11:59,733
Amazing.

1688
01:11:59,943 --> 01:12:01,093
I haven't-- I don't
think I've seen it though

1689
01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:05,433
Dude, they have a fucking talent…
They have a pretty fucking good team

1690
01:12:06,483 --> 01:12:09,743
making games, and now they used AI
for a whole fucking music video.

1691
01:12:09,753 --> 01:12:11,653
What the f- like, fuck, man

1692
01:12:12,142 --> 01:12:16,062
That's the part where I really get
tired of AI is the, is the companies

1693
01:12:16,062 --> 01:12:20,332
that have the money to do it, uh,
to, to actually pay talent and

1694
01:12:20,332 --> 01:12:23,022
they're not even-- They're using AI.

1695
01:12:23,252 --> 01:12:24,462
That's the part that gets me

1696
01:12:25,462 --> 01:12:25,920
Yeah, like it really calls into
question whether or not the game's

1697
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,232
gonna u- is using AI in part of
its development at some point.

1698
01:12:29,292 --> 01:12:31,912
'Cause, you know, their willingness to
put out a, what is essentially an ad

1699
01:12:31,922 --> 01:12:35,742
that's AI generated for a game, like why?

1700
01:12:36,742 --> 01:12:37,202
Let's see.

1701
01:12:37,212 --> 01:12:40,402
There's also some things Let's, let's see.

1702
01:12:41,132 --> 01:12:45,262
also mentioned that, uh, you know, Legacy
of Atlant- Tomb Raider: Legacy of the

1703
01:12:45,262 --> 01:12:48,032
Masque, been criticized for use of AI.

1704
01:12:49,022 --> 01:12:51,552
Legacy of the Masque gets sloppy
with it and uses a bunch of assets

1705
01:12:51,552 --> 01:12:54,512
that are not humanly transformed
into the original works of IP, she

1706
01:12:54,512 --> 01:12:58,192
could argue that anyone could claim
that they can lift those assets, too.

1707
01:12:58,222 --> 01:12:59,442
That's, that, that's the thing too,

1708
01:13:00,248 --> 01:13:00,618
Mm.

1709
01:13:00,832 --> 01:13:05,522
you could… Like, if this is, like,
entirely AI generated, you could legally

1710
01:13:05,582 --> 01:13:10,692
lift these assets and use them in
your own game without legal recompense

1711
01:13:11,118 --> 01:13:11,488
Hmm.

1712
01:13:12,488 --> 01:13:13,158
Interesting

1713
01:13:14,158 --> 01:13:19,058
Like if, let's see, for example, if Legacy
of Atlantis had an outdoor level and all

1714
01:13:19,058 --> 01:13:23,178
the trees are AI generated, I could, I
would argue someone could go and use every

1715
01:13:23,178 --> 01:13:27,618
tree in the Lara Croft game and, and that
they know is AI generated and put those

1716
01:13:27,638 --> 01:13:30,408
in their games, and I don't think the devs
could turn around and say, "Those are our

1717
01:13:30,408 --> 01:13:36,128
trees." So that's also another thing to
consider too, especially since you don't

1718
01:13:36,128 --> 01:13:41,588
have copyright over, uh, AI-generated
assets too, like fully AI generated.

1719
01:13:42,878 --> 01:13:46,318
Of course, what counts as human
transformation, I don't know.

1720
01:13:46,368 --> 01:13:49,598
Maybe you could change like a pixel
on like the textures and that counts?

1721
01:13:50,838 --> 01:13:51,068
Probably

1722
01:13:51,163 --> 01:13:51,363
The

1723
01:13:52,465 --> 01:13:53,275
A single pixel?

1724
01:13:53,295 --> 01:13:53,945
Probably not

1725
01:13:54,945 --> 01:13:58,445
I mean, this is where copyright, it
doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

1726
01:13:58,515 --> 01:14:01,735
Like, I've always kind of
been a copyright skeptic.

1727
01:14:02,515 --> 01:14:09,095
Um, but like when it comes to,
you know, protecting the author's

1728
01:14:09,095 --> 01:14:12,045
integrity, like the integrity of
the author's vision, that's where

1729
01:14:12,045 --> 01:14:13,595
copyright starts to make sense to me.

1730
01:14:13,605 --> 01:14:18,375
So it's like if there is no author,
if it's generated by an AI, then it

1731
01:14:18,385 --> 01:14:20,815
shouldn't have any copyright protection.

1732
01:14:21,465 --> 01:14:23,795
Um, so I don't know.

1733
01:14:23,825 --> 01:14:26,935
It's very, it's a very
messy, messy business.

1734
01:14:27,438 --> 01:14:27,738
Right.

1735
01:14:27,738 --> 01:14:33,688
So it's, it's the entire, the whole
contract situation is very pragmatic, for

1736
01:14:33,688 --> 01:14:39,658
protecting their own assets and whatnot,
as well as ensuring that… Yeah, I mean,

1737
01:14:39,668 --> 01:14:42,668
they also s- you know, they also like to
mention that the community would hate it

1738
01:14:42,668 --> 01:14:47,838
too, which I mean, is perfectly fair, and
I think it's a valid point to have You

1739
01:14:47,838 --> 01:14:50,408
know what, you know what company isn't
listening to their community though?

1740
01:14:51,408 --> 01:14:53,258
Take a wild guess, Gardiner and James

1741
01:14:54,139 --> 01:14:55,509
Um, Google

1742
01:14:55,964 --> 01:14:56,654
That's right.

1743
01:14:58,004 --> 01:14:58,614
That's right.

1744
01:14:58,624 --> 01:14:59,644
So YouTube

1745
01:14:59,859 --> 01:15:00,519
You have the notes.

1746
01:15:00,519 --> 01:15:01,499
You cheated, Gardiner.

1747
01:15:02,509 --> 01:15:02,959
That's right.

1748
01:15:02,959 --> 01:15:07,289
YouTube has doubled the, uh, requirements
to join their partner program

1749
01:15:08,289 --> 01:15:09,409
Yeah, this is… Oh, man.

1750
01:15:10,535 --> 01:15:12,155
Didn't they lower it not too long ago?

1751
01:15:13,048 --> 01:15:13,168
A

1752
01:15:13,369 --> 01:15:13,799
They did.

1753
01:15:13,938 --> 01:15:14,938
they, like, doubled it.

1754
01:15:14,968 --> 01:15:15,338
So

1755
01:15:15,339 --> 01:15:15,549
Yeah

1756
01:15:15,638 --> 01:15:19,778
those who don't know, the YouTube
Partner Program is how you can get

1757
01:15:19,778 --> 01:15:22,298
paid to make videos through ad revenue.

1758
01:15:22,778 --> 01:15:25,188
And let me tell you, the
ad revenue is kinda shit

1759
01:15:26,213 --> 01:15:26,943
Oh my God.

1760
01:15:27,893 --> 01:15:32,633
I, just to, just to touch on
that, Hi Tech, I went and looked.

1761
01:15:32,693 --> 01:15:35,913
I've been doing YouTube for 12 years.

1762
01:15:36,573 --> 01:15:41,543
I went and looked at my CPM, my
average CPM for my YouTube channel in

1763
01:15:41,543 --> 01:15:43,663
2016 when I first became a partner.

1764
01:15:45,023 --> 01:15:52,943
My CPM back then was, I think it was
$12.34 or something to that effect, and

1765
01:15:52,953 --> 01:15:59,493
my most recent, like in the last two or
three years, my average CPM is $2.50.

1766
01:16:00,143 --> 01:16:05,093
So just, just to put that into
perspective, in 10 years it's

1767
01:16:05,093 --> 01:16:09,533
dropped, like, I don't even know
what the percentage is, like 80%.

1768
01:16:09,573 --> 01:16:10,713
I mean, that's what it seems.

1769
01:16:11,543 --> 01:16:15,473
So yeah, if you wanna join the
partner program, that's what you

1770
01:16:15,473 --> 01:16:17,663
can look forward to, getting screwed

1771
01:16:18,020 --> 01:16:23,340
So the req- the current requirements
are that you have to have 1,000

1772
01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:27,330
subscribers, which we're not, that
which the podcast isn't h- isn't

1773
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,490
is not 1,000 subscribers yet.

1774
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:35,350
also need 8,000 qualified watch
hours over the last 12 months, or

1775
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,630
20 million qualified view shorts
in under, in the last 90 days.

1776
01:16:41,050 --> 01:16:42,680
That, that, okay, that, like, all right.

1777
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:48,400
The 8,000 is reasonable, but, like, the 20
million in fucking three months is insane

1778
01:16:48,869 --> 01:16:54,599
Actually, I think the current requirements
are 4,000 watch hours and 10 million

1779
01:16:55,056 --> 01:16:55,496
Yeah.

1780
01:16:55,559 --> 01:16:55,959
views.

1781
01:16:56,066 --> 01:16:56,436
Yeah, they

1782
01:16:56,659 --> 01:16:57,589
And the, the upgrade.

1783
01:16:58,179 --> 01:16:58,619
Yeah

1784
01:16:58,666 --> 01:17:00,746
I think the 10 million
things is kind of insane too.

1785
01:17:00,786 --> 01:17:03,996
I don't think I've ever gotten
anywhere near 10 million.

1786
01:17:04,473 --> 01:17:04,893
No

1787
01:17:05,166 --> 01:17:05,386
form

1788
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:05,809
That's…

1789
01:17:06,076 --> 01:17:07,176
way easier.

1790
01:17:07,366 --> 01:17:07,446
I

1791
01:17:07,449 --> 01:17:07,769
Yeah,

1792
01:17:07,826 --> 01:17:08,096
way better

1793
01:17:09,259 --> 01:17:09,629
Yeah.

1794
01:17:09,949 --> 01:17:13,959
It's not like… Well, the thing is with
shorts, they don't even pay almost at all.

1795
01:17:14,531 --> 01:17:15,031
Right

1796
01:17:15,184 --> 01:17:15,594
Yeah, they

1797
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:18,359
They're good for growth,
but they're really garbage

1798
01:17:19,359 --> 01:17:23,459
I mean, I'll still make shorts
for, um, things I don't feel

1799
01:17:23,459 --> 01:17:24,399
like making a full video on.

1800
01:17:24,859 --> 01:17:25,639
I mean, that's what they're for

1801
01:17:26,414 --> 01:17:28,834
Yeah, it, it's, uh, there,
there's nothing wrong with that.

1802
01:17:28,834 --> 01:17:33,454
It's just if someone's trying to be a
shorts channel, go to TikTok or Instagram.

1803
01:17:34,454 --> 01:17:36,074
Um, they make money off of that.

1804
01:17:36,084 --> 01:17:36,774
They… I don't know.

1805
01:17:36,774 --> 01:17:40,284
I don't think they have to hit those
types of, uh, metrics to make money, so

1806
01:17:40,284 --> 01:17:41,914
I don't know what it is with YouTube, but

1807
01:17:42,914 --> 01:17:44,054
Dude, it's wild

1808
01:17:44,737 --> 01:17:46,257
I don't know.

1809
01:17:46,987 --> 01:17:50,177
I don't, I don't know, um,
about the, those companies.

1810
01:17:50,187 --> 01:17:54,107
But what we do know is if you
wanna make long form content,

1811
01:17:54,117 --> 01:17:55,757
YouTube is the place to go.

1812
01:17:55,827 --> 01:17:59,167
It's almost the only place
to go, truth be told.

1813
01:18:00,157 --> 01:18:06,037
And, uh, because Twitch isn't doing
much better either They introduced

1814
01:18:06,047 --> 01:18:10,307
this training… They introduced this
right here, this, uh, gen- training

1815
01:18:10,307 --> 01:18:17,467
for generative AI, and it's opt-out,
meaning everyone by default has opted in.

1816
01:18:18,337 --> 01:18:22,717
have to go into the settings and disable
it, and I've read reports about how

1817
01:18:22,717 --> 01:18:25,667
people have disabled it, and then when
they go back into the menu, it just

1818
01:18:25,667 --> 01:18:27,507
re-enables itself, like immediately

1819
01:18:28,507 --> 01:18:28,827
Wow

1820
01:18:29,047 --> 01:18:33,247
do they reload the whole-- Like, do they
disable it then re- like reload the whole

1821
01:18:33,307 --> 01:18:34,977
page and then go back and then try it?

1822
01:18:35,017 --> 01:18:36,717
Or do they just close
it and bring it back up?

1823
01:18:37,162 --> 01:18:39,472
I believe they saved the settings.

1824
01:18:40,563 --> 01:18:40,953
I,

1825
01:18:41,172 --> 01:18:43,152
Or- I don't know.

1826
01:18:43,182 --> 01:18:44,982
I don't know, but it's stupid.

1827
01:18:45,673 --> 01:18:46,123
Yeah.

1828
01:18:46,153 --> 01:18:49,613
Sorry, I'm-- Just as an engineer, I,
I am gonna ask that because sometimes

1829
01:18:50,343 --> 01:18:53,613
will save to the back end and the
UI will save in that one spot,

1830
01:18:53,613 --> 01:18:58,303
but it's not, um, uh, retroactive,
so it won't go to other places.

1831
01:18:58,303 --> 01:19:00,403
Or if you bring it back up, it
might be loading an old state.

1832
01:19:00,513 --> 01:19:02,893
I only say that just so that we
have the full picture, but yeah.

1833
01:19:03,666 --> 01:19:04,136
So we

1834
01:19:04,253 --> 01:19:04,623
Yeah

1835
01:19:04,806 --> 01:19:08,966
stream, uh, because I don't
feel like managing a Twitch

1836
01:19:08,966 --> 01:19:10,026
account as well, to be honest.

1837
01:19:10,036 --> 01:19:11,146
Let's be perfectly frank.

1838
01:19:11,537 --> 01:19:11,887
Hmm

1839
01:19:12,046 --> 01:19:12,356
I think

1840
01:19:12,375 --> 01:19:15,285
some Twitch streaming in the past,
but yeah, sorry, continue with that

1841
01:19:15,506 --> 01:19:17,416
I think Y- I mean, I think
YouTube's perfectly fine

1842
01:19:17,416 --> 01:19:19,736
for your one channel, right?

1843
01:19:19,766 --> 01:19:22,756
Like, you can stream and put
down long-form videos too.

1844
01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:26,719
Yeah, but over the
years it really depends.

1845
01:19:26,719 --> 01:19:28,179
It can hurt your channel though.

1846
01:19:28,519 --> 01:19:33,529
So it's not always a good idea to be
streaming on your ma- on channels.

1847
01:19:33,539 --> 01:19:35,239
Sometimes it's good to split that up.

1848
01:19:35,569 --> 01:19:38,089
So there's a lot of
different tactics to do.

1849
01:19:38,379 --> 01:19:41,199
And so there, there… I mean,
you also have different audience

1850
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:42,589
in Twitch, over at Twitch.

1851
01:19:42,589 --> 01:19:43,319
It's, it is different.

1852
01:19:43,319 --> 01:19:44,899
They had, they had much
better streaming tools.

1853
01:19:45,259 --> 01:19:46,429
I'm not trying to be, like, defensive.

1854
01:19:46,459 --> 01:19:50,059
I… Twitch isn't, know,
it, it is interesting.

1855
01:19:50,379 --> 01:19:50,759
But

1856
01:19:50,938 --> 01:19:51,398
Right.

1857
01:19:52,398 --> 01:19:56,178
another thing too is, uh, they also
admitted on a li- a Twitch live stream

1858
01:19:56,668 --> 01:20:01,078
that they made it opt out because if they
made it opt in, no one would ever opt

1859
01:20:01,353 --> 01:20:01,653
Yeah.

1860
01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:02,819
Yeah

1861
01:20:02,873 --> 01:20:03,373
of course.

1862
01:20:04,183 --> 01:20:05,233
Who's gonna opt into that?

1863
01:20:05,853 --> 01:20:09,023
They have to do it in action, and
then on top of that they have to

1864
01:20:09,023 --> 01:20:11,483
be like, "Yeah, why you can use
it." Like, what, what benefit

1865
01:20:11,493 --> 01:20:13,473
do… This is my problem with this.

1866
01:20:13,633 --> 01:20:15,873
What benefit do the Twitch
streamers get from this?

1867
01:20:15,893 --> 01:20:18,813
Are they gonna get cut backs if
you start using that to make money?

1868
01:20:18,843 --> 01:20:23,313
Like, that's the problem ultimately
with AI, I think ul- uh, with

1869
01:20:23,313 --> 01:20:24,653
training and generative and all that.

1870
01:20:25,423 --> 01:20:29,213
Are the people that you're essentially
taking advantage of, are they

1871
01:20:29,213 --> 01:20:30,753
making money from what you're doing?

1872
01:20:31,753 --> 01:20:35,303
The answer is no, and I'm willing
to bet in the future they may make

1873
01:20:35,303 --> 01:20:38,063
it so that you… 'Cause, like,
YouTube, you cannot opt out of it.

1874
01:20:38,273 --> 01:20:39,433
Like, all, like our,

1875
01:20:39,478 --> 01:20:39,878
Yeah

1876
01:20:39,953 --> 01:20:43,653
podcast, our videos, we're
feeding the Google algorithm, and

1877
01:20:43,653 --> 01:20:44,933
there's no way to opt out of it.

1878
01:20:45,516 --> 01:20:45,876
Yeah

1879
01:20:46,023 --> 01:20:49,493
see it in the future where they
just make it a requirement.

1880
01:20:49,503 --> 01:20:50,753
They make it mandatory.

1881
01:20:51,573 --> 01:20:51,673
if

1882
01:20:51,766 --> 01:20:52,186
yeah

1883
01:20:52,583 --> 01:20:54,503
they'll make it so that you
don't get paid on Twitch.

1884
01:20:55,503 --> 01:20:57,103
They could easily do
a lot of those things.

1885
01:20:57,133 --> 01:20:59,983
They like tying-- Like, when it
comes to the partner program there,

1886
01:20:59,993 --> 01:21:05,153
they really like tying certain weird
incentives to it to keep getting paid.

1887
01:21:05,153 --> 01:21:08,113
I've, I've, I've been partnered over
there, not partner-partnered, but

1888
01:21:08,123 --> 01:21:11,663
I've, I've gotten to where I make
money off of Twitch a few years ago.

1889
01:21:11,933 --> 01:21:12,363
But

1890
01:21:13,389 --> 01:21:18,799
I was streaming on Twitch in like
20- 2016, 2017, something like that,

1891
01:21:19,729 --> 01:21:21,149
and I was making money from it.

1892
01:21:21,299 --> 01:21:24,819
Um, and then they did a bunch of stuff
that screwed over Linux users, and

1893
01:21:24,819 --> 01:21:30,139
I was like, "Well, this sucks." So I
can't remember exactly, um, but there

1894
01:21:30,139 --> 01:21:31,749
was some big hullabaloo about it.

1895
01:21:32,269 --> 01:21:36,869
Um, but I just went in and tried to
shut it off, and it, it did, it…

1896
01:21:36,909 --> 01:21:41,419
I shut off the training generat-
generative AI button, and when I

1897
01:21:41,419 --> 01:21:43,379
refreshed the page, it did stay off.

1898
01:21:43,389 --> 01:21:44,779
So that's progress.

1899
01:21:45,779 --> 01:21:46,172
I just

1900
01:21:46,185 --> 01:21:46,495
Dude

1901
01:21:46,549 --> 01:21:47,239
they're gonna do with it.

1902
01:21:47,259 --> 01:21:49,979
I, I don't know what they're gonna
do with the generative stuff.

1903
01:21:49,979 --> 01:21:53,689
They're gonna make-- replace,
like, content creators with this.

1904
01:21:53,949 --> 01:21:54,749
It is expensive.

1905
01:21:54,759 --> 01:21:58,199
That type of tech to run a
content creator that's completely

1906
01:21:58,199 --> 01:21:59,619
generated would be expensive.

1907
01:22:00,519 --> 01:22:03,929
And then I don't think they could re- they
could only do it, like, one or two at a

1908
01:22:03,929 --> 01:22:06,329
ti- like, I don't think people want that.

1909
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:11,179
I don't think it's gonna be a very
great… It, it just seems expensive.

1910
01:22:11,179 --> 01:22:13,459
It seems expensive.

1911
01:22:13,869 --> 01:22:16,229
In fact, I would push back on this.

1912
01:22:16,369 --> 01:22:19,429
If they wanna do that on their own
dime, they should start paying,

1913
01:22:19,879 --> 01:22:24,359
uh, Twitch streamers more they're
taking the profits and stuff.

1914
01:22:24,409 --> 01:22:27,869
Instead of giv- like, giving them 50%
like YouTube, they could start splitting.

1915
01:22:27,869 --> 01:22:32,369
Okay, well, if you can do that and
spend all that money on the generative

1916
01:22:32,369 --> 01:22:36,199
side, then that means you have tons
more money you could be splitting.

1917
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,269
You could be doing, like, a f- 30
fi- uh, 70 split or something like

1918
01:22:40,269 --> 01:22:42,749
that where the, uh, creator gets 70%.

1919
01:22:43,709 --> 01:22:46,069
where it's calling out to me is
more that they have way too much

1920
01:22:46,069 --> 01:22:50,549
money to, than what th- they know
what to do with Sorry, tangent over.

1921
01:22:51,909 --> 01:22:52,349
sorry.

1922
01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:59,889
I, I, there is a website, uh, that
lets you, like, calculate how much

1923
01:22:59,909 --> 01:23:06,809
money Twitch loses for every, um…
Because, uh, my understanding is that

1924
01:23:06,809 --> 01:23:13,479
T- Twitch is not profitable and, and for
every additional viewer that you have

1925
01:23:13,539 --> 01:23:19,359
on, like, watching your stream, they
lose a, a, an, a calculatable number,

1926
01:23:19,359 --> 01:23:21,639
and I can't fin- seem to find it, but

1927
01:23:21,777 --> 01:23:24,207
say that, but they own AWS.

1928
01:23:24,487 --> 01:23:29,197
The-- It's, it's all Hollywood accounting
stuff where they make you want to think

1929
01:23:29,207 --> 01:23:33,297
they're losing, so they're not getting
taxed, they're not having to do what they

1930
01:23:33,303 --> 01:23:33,453
Okay.

1931
01:23:33,517 --> 01:23:34,127
They're not.

1932
01:23:34,207 --> 01:23:35,407
They're not make--
they're not losing money.

1933
01:23:35,417 --> 01:23:37,107
They're making plenty of money from it

1934
01:23:38,303 --> 01:23:38,983
All right, fair enough

1935
01:23:39,743 --> 01:23:42,723
I'm sorry, I'm, I'm pretty adamant
with YouTube and Twitch and

1936
01:23:42,723 --> 01:23:45,023
some of these companies that say
that they're not making money.

1937
01:23:45,453 --> 01:23:49,593
They're, uh, th- it's, it's the
most abhorrent type of lying to me.

1938
01:23:50,003 --> 01:23:56,233
It's so that they don't have to pay people
more, and that they can, uh, make it

1939
01:23:56,233 --> 01:23:58,433
look like that they're… I don't know.

1940
01:23:58,443 --> 01:24:00,283
It, it's a whole accounting thing.

1941
01:24:00,293 --> 01:24:03,083
It really, ticks me off when they do this.

1942
01:24:03,343 --> 01:24:04,483
Sorry, I'm not saying that

1943
01:24:04,917 --> 01:24:05,397
No, no

1944
01:24:05,563 --> 01:24:07,033
y- you definitely could
be right, Gardiner.

1945
01:24:07,053 --> 01:24:09,653
It's just, it's one of those things
where I, I just don't like it

1946
01:24:10,349 --> 01:24:10,729
Yeah.

1947
01:24:10,769 --> 01:24:13,919
Well, I, my understanding,
like, that, that's fair.

1948
01:24:13,919 --> 01:24:17,469
I think that that's definitely
probably true to some degree, that

1949
01:24:17,469 --> 01:24:18,659
it's like Hollywood accounting.

1950
01:24:19,029 --> 01:24:24,349
But also, like, s- live streaming in
particular is extremely expensive.

1951
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:28,889
Like, uh, even just streaming
video is extremely expensive.

1952
01:24:29,279 --> 01:24:34,429
And, um, and so I wouldn't be surprised
if it is true that they are losing

1953
01:24:34,429 --> 01:24:38,989
money for every person that watches, but
they also, uh, you know, are, they're

1954
01:24:38,999 --> 01:24:43,609
backed by Daddy Bezos, and so they're
not actually losing money, right?

1955
01:24:43,609 --> 01:24:44,759
Like, I don't know.

1956
01:24:45,305 --> 01:24:45,625
Someone

1957
01:24:45,759 --> 01:24:46,409
It could be

1958
01:24:46,505 --> 01:24:49,525
systems that have had to
handle streaming thousands of

1959
01:24:49,677 --> 01:24:49,977
Yeah

1960
01:24:50,045 --> 01:24:51,845
built systems for one of the
companies I worked for in

1961
01:24:51,845 --> 01:24:53,485
the, uh, almost a decade ago.

1962
01:24:54,255 --> 01:24:56,275
not as expensive as they say they are.

1963
01:24:57,015 --> 01:24:57,805
Hmm, okay

1964
01:24:58,735 --> 01:25:01,585
but with-- if you're, if, if you
incorporate how many ad drops

1965
01:25:01,585 --> 01:25:05,365
that they have, no, they're making
so much more money off of it.

1966
01:25:05,635 --> 01:25:08,625
Every stream, every person that
gets an ad delivered to them

1967
01:25:08,635 --> 01:25:10,435
pays easily for that stream

1968
01:25:11,848 --> 01:25:12,568
Hmm.

1969
01:25:13,008 --> 01:25:18,048
Yeah, what… Honestly, man, what
is one to do if you don't like AI?

1970
01:25:18,088 --> 01:25:21,678
Just build your own website where you,
uh, pay, where you force people to pay a

1971
01:25:21,678 --> 01:25:23,278
monthly subscription to watch our stuff?

1972
01:25:24,055 --> 01:25:24,775
It's

1973
01:25:25,128 --> 01:25:25,778
Patreon?

1974
01:25:26,997 --> 01:25:27,167
I'm

1975
01:25:27,301 --> 01:25:27,581
All right.

1976
01:25:28,367 --> 01:25:30,397
Like, there's a lot of
different ways to do all this.

1977
01:25:31,417 --> 01:25:35,047
know if completely abandoning
everything that says AI is the right

1978
01:25:35,047 --> 01:25:40,027
way to go, but I definitely think we
need more grassroots systems, right?

1979
01:25:40,027 --> 01:25:43,867
It's just really hard
to do that It's kind of

1980
01:25:43,869 --> 01:25:44,189
Ja

1981
01:25:44,767 --> 01:25:45,367
take on it

1982
01:25:45,442 --> 01:25:45,962
enough.

1983
01:25:46,002 --> 01:25:48,982
But, uh, there is some good news though.

1984
01:25:49,982 --> 01:25:51,062
You guys ever see this?

1985
01:25:52,062 --> 01:25:52,582
What is that?

1986
01:25:53,072 --> 01:25:54,572
That is a Steam Deck

1987
01:25:55,762 --> 01:25:56,242
Oh

1988
01:25:57,234 --> 01:25:58,334
The GabeBoy.

1989
01:25:59,324 --> 01:26:04,744
Someone the entire Steam Deck took
out a lot of the internal components

1990
01:26:04,934 --> 01:26:07,804
and shoved it in what is essentially
a little 3D-printed, uh, DMG

1991
01:26:08,804 --> 01:26:09,654
That's cool

1992
01:26:10,059 --> 01:26:14,859
You might wanna, you might wanna watch the
video feed for this one since, uh, it's

1993
01:26:14,869 --> 01:26:17,249
significantly smaller than the Steam Deck.

1994
01:26:17,784 --> 01:26:18,154
Mm-hmm.

1995
01:26:18,829 --> 01:26:20,709
uh, what's the aspect ratio?

1996
01:26:20,799 --> 01:26:22,799
It looks like it's 4:3.

1997
01:26:23,274 --> 01:26:23,564
Yeah

1998
01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:25,139
know, retro games, stuff like that.

1999
01:26:25,909 --> 01:26:27,149
have a custom display board.

2000
01:26:27,149 --> 01:26:27,879
It's AMOLED.

2001
01:26:27,899 --> 01:26:29,329
They had to get a custom fan.

2002
01:26:29,709 --> 01:26:31,719
And admittedly, they're
missing some of the controls.

2003
01:26:31,749 --> 01:26:36,919
Like, they're missing, uh,
the triggers, and triggers.

2004
01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:38,829
They're missing a whole set of sticks.

2005
01:26:38,909 --> 01:26:41,579
They're missing another…
They're missing a D-pad.

2006
01:26:41,969 --> 01:26:42,759
Well, no, they have the D-pad.

2007
01:26:42,759 --> 01:26:46,099
No, they're missing one
analog stick and one trackpad.

2008
01:26:46,738 --> 01:26:47,018
Yeah

2009
01:26:47,169 --> 01:26:50,409
So I mean, it's still cool
that it functions though.

2010
01:26:50,599 --> 01:26:54,729
Uh, so there is a video
of it in motion though.

2011
01:26:55,939 --> 01:26:58,849
That's not the video, but you
can also dock it too, by the way.

2012
01:26:59,249 --> 01:27:00,049
I should mention that

2013
01:27:01,049 --> 01:27:01,589
Oh, cool.

2014
01:27:02,478 --> 01:27:02,978
or worse

2015
01:27:03,978 --> 01:27:05,698
That m- must be heavy.

2016
01:27:06,698 --> 01:27:09,218
Mm, probably, probably is heavy, but I

2017
01:27:09,313 --> 01:27:09,443
Yeah.

2018
01:27:09,718 --> 01:27:11,888
it being much more heavy
than the original DMG

2019
01:27:12,883 --> 01:27:13,323
Right

2020
01:27:14,690 --> 01:27:17,730
That fan being outside,
though, is kinda scary though.

2021
01:27:18,191 --> 01:27:18,701
Yeah

2022
01:27:19,701 --> 01:27:21,551
But that, this is genuinely really cool

2023
01:27:21,916 --> 01:27:24,996
Have we seen it with the screen,
like the built-in screen working?

2024
01:27:26,029 --> 01:27:30,309
Um, unfortunately we
have not seen it with it.

2025
01:27:30,309 --> 01:27:32,379
I think he's still trying
to get the screen working.

2026
01:27:33,379 --> 01:27:39,249
Uh, but yeah, there's a whole subreddit
dedicated to modding your Steam Deck.

2027
01:27:39,899 --> 01:27:43,799
this case, it's the Steam Deck
modded, uh, subreddit here.

2028
01:27:44,799 --> 01:27:49,389
Now, he had to build a custom… He had to
build a bunch of custom PCBs to get, uh,

2029
01:27:49,409 --> 01:27:56,639
the display working by co- So you look at
all these custom PCBs he had to build too.

2030
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:57,509
This is insane

2031
01:27:58,174 --> 01:27:58,514
Wow

2032
01:27:59,514 --> 01:28:00,794
He… Oh, that's the original battery.

2033
01:28:00,794 --> 01:28:02,864
Holy shit I don't even know where you

2034
01:28:02,900 --> 01:28:03,310
Crazy

2035
01:28:04,614 --> 01:28:05,624
Dude, what the fuck?

2036
01:28:05,654 --> 01:28:11,384
This is cr- this is insane He built
a custom heat sink sy- uh, heat sink

2037
01:28:11,384 --> 01:28:18,104
setup He put volume buttons and then
another… Oh, this is a, this is the

2038
01:28:18,104 --> 01:28:20,244
original DAC that the, uh, Steam Deck has.

2039
01:28:21,154 --> 01:28:22,844
cool that you can repurpose a lot of parts

2040
01:28:23,844 --> 01:28:27,844
Mm-hmm.

2041
01:28:28,707 --> 01:28:33,427
but it sounds like I might be something
in- interested in something like this.

2042
01:28:34,577 --> 01:28:37,827
Uh, but I mean, the only caveat for
me is I need bumpers and triggers.

2043
01:28:38,664 --> 01:28:39,134
Yeah

2044
01:28:39,157 --> 01:28:42,207
live with, I could live without
the sticks or the track pad, but

2045
01:28:42,217 --> 01:28:44,557
the bumpers, triggers, I need them

2046
01:28:45,202 --> 01:28:46,512
You could easily put those into it.

2047
01:28:46,512 --> 01:28:48,282
Just make it jet out a little bit more.

2048
01:28:48,312 --> 01:28:51,332
But there, there's a Game
Boy-esque or, you know, Game

2049
01:28:51,332 --> 01:28:55,372
Boy-like, um, that have them But it

2050
01:28:55,594 --> 01:29:04,844
Yeah, I have, I have the, uh, Retroflag
GPi case here, which is like a, a

2051
01:29:05,014 --> 01:29:09,044
Raspberry Pi, uh, compute module thing.

2052
01:29:09,724 --> 01:29:16,004
And, um, it has like… It's kinda
hard to see, but there are, there

2053
01:29:16,004 --> 01:29:21,614
are at least bumpers here that you
can push, but… And they're, they're

2054
01:29:21,624 --> 01:29:23,934
very well integrated into the device

2055
01:29:24,934 --> 01:29:25,814
He should do that

2056
01:29:26,670 --> 01:29:27,070
Yeah

2057
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:33,090
Now, yeah, right there, five days ago,
he said the screen's not yet connected.

2058
01:29:33,170 --> 01:29:37,630
It's a large task getting it
working and all that stuff.

2059
01:29:37,630 --> 01:29:40,770
It's a higher resolution than the original
Steam Deck screen, I should mention

2060
01:29:41,149 --> 01:29:41,869
Oh, interesting

2061
01:29:42,869 --> 01:29:48,999
I believe it's, uh 1200 by
1080, so it's a 1080p panel.

2062
01:29:50,049 --> 01:29:51,459
hertz AMOLED display.

2063
01:29:51,829 --> 01:29:53,689
Originally intended for VR.

2064
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:54,110
Hmm

2065
01:29:55,229 --> 01:29:59,559
What, wait, what VR, what VR is
using this screen right here?

2066
01:30:00,559 --> 01:30:05,339
I don't know, but it's pretty cool
regardless Now, realistically, I

2067
01:30:05,339 --> 01:30:09,269
don't think we could have expected
him to put everything in here, but

2068
01:30:09,269 --> 01:30:13,089
the fact that he put in so much of
it as is, is genuinely impressive.

2069
01:30:14,099 --> 01:30:16,849
There are some mission critical
pieces that are still missing though,

2070
01:30:16,849 --> 01:30:18,459
like I said, the, the triggers.

2071
01:30:18,549 --> 01:30:22,589
There are quite a few games that
use triggers But yeah, I mean,

2072
01:30:23,349 --> 01:30:24,809
you, would you build one of these?

2073
01:30:25,809 --> 01:30:26,919
No, probably not

2074
01:30:28,285 --> 01:30:29,295
I think it's fascinating.

2075
01:30:29,355 --> 01:30:31,795
I wouldn't build one partially
'cause I just don't-- I would not

2076
01:30:31,795 --> 01:30:33,155
use that form factor like that

2077
01:30:33,801 --> 01:30:34,301
Yeah

2078
01:30:35,301 --> 01:30:35,851
But it's cool.

2079
01:30:35,861 --> 01:30:36,761
I love seeing modding.

2080
01:30:36,801 --> 01:30:41,941
I love s- modding, um, different
devices or modding from a one

2081
01:30:41,941 --> 01:30:43,011
device to a different device

2082
01:30:44,374 --> 01:30:45,004
Wow, look at this.

2083
01:30:45,004 --> 01:30:48,754
He made an, he made a whole Avatar
Legends arcade cabinet with a Steam

2084
01:30:48,764 --> 01:30:50,254
Mach- with presumably a Steam Deck.

2085
01:30:51,254 --> 01:30:52,734
See what else we have here.

2086
01:30:52,914 --> 01:30:53,724
Uh, oh yeah, that's the SteamBoy.

2087
01:30:54,724 --> 01:30:59,984
There's the Evangelion themed Steam
Deck There's the Steam Boy again.

2088
01:31:01,144 --> 01:31:02,274
This is a pretty interesting thread.

2089
01:31:02,334 --> 01:31:03,394
This is a pretty interesting subreddit.

2090
01:31:03,394 --> 01:31:04,704
I'm gonna keep an eye out on this.

2091
01:31:04,714 --> 01:31:04,724
I

2092
01:31:05,069 --> 01:31:05,389
Hmm.

2093
01:31:05,499 --> 01:31:05,799
Yeah,

2094
01:31:06,414 --> 01:31:06,644
see

2095
01:31:06,809 --> 01:31:07,439
I agree with that

2096
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,219
Uh, yeah, but I don't
really have much more.

2097
01:31:10,299 --> 01:31:11,249
Uh, you guys have anything?

2098
01:31:12,249 --> 01:31:12,489
No

2099
01:31:12,505 --> 01:31:13,865
No, I don't think so

2100
01:31:14,865 --> 01:31:15,165
All right.

2101
01:31:15,165 --> 01:31:17,205
Well, uh, it's a pretty good video.

2102
01:31:17,265 --> 01:31:19,015
We got a lot, we got a lot of topics done.

2103
01:31:19,025 --> 01:31:22,555
It was a little depressing, uh,
towards the beginning, mainly

2104
01:31:22,555 --> 01:31:24,375
with the bonus episode, I mean,

2105
01:31:24,764 --> 01:31:26,324
Yeah, the bonus episode was…

2106
01:31:26,504 --> 01:31:26,644
Yeah

2107
01:31:26,824 --> 01:31:27,234
Yeah.

2108
01:31:28,294 --> 01:31:32,754
But, but we made up for it here,
so if you wanna feel depressed,

2109
01:31:32,774 --> 01:31:35,424
go watch the bonus episode.

2110
01:31:35,609 --> 01:31:38,389
about EDP445

2111
01:31:38,430 --> 01:31:41,680
Oh, it's too, it's too much for YouTube.

2112
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,030
Too much for YouTube

2113
01:31:43,687 --> 01:31:46,247
I'm surprised YouTube let
that documentary on there too

2114
01:31:46,572 --> 01:31:46,972
Yeah.

2115
01:31:47,972 --> 01:31:48,552
That's wild

2116
01:31:49,545 --> 01:31:51,885
Mm-hmm.

2117
01:31:51,885 --> 01:31:52,655
All right.

2118
01:31:52,765 --> 01:31:56,805
You guys have any further
questions or concerns before we go?

2119
01:31:57,805 --> 01:31:58,205
No.

2120
01:31:59,125 --> 01:31:59,545
No.

2121
01:31:59,585 --> 01:32:02,335
I just, I just want Steam Frame
to come out in a couple weeks.

2122
01:32:02,695 --> 01:32:02,925
That's it

2123
01:32:03,029 --> 01:32:03,288
Yeah

2124
01:32:03,472 --> 01:32:05,902
worry, it'll come out with Half-Life 3

2125
01:32:06,902 --> 01:32:08,252
That would be, that'd be sick

2126
01:32:08,656 --> 01:32:10,866
The copium The copium

2127
01:32:11,148 --> 01:32:12,258
you guys take care now.

2128
01:32:12,824 --> 01:32:13,324
Yes.

2129
01:32:13,344 --> 01:32:14,384
We'll see you next time

2130
01:32:15,114 --> 01:32:15,524
Peace out.

2131
01:32:15,584 --> 01:32:16,044
Later, guys

2132
01:32:16,078 --> 01:32:16,408
Later