1 00:00:25,708 --> 00:00:31,528 Welcome to Off the Console, the hottest new podcast that's all about gaming, tech news, and anything nerdy. 2 00:00:31,568 --> 00:00:37,168 And as you might see here, we have a special guest, Noah from Steamedick HQ. 3 00:00:37,248 --> 00:00:43,748 He is the CEO of Steamedick HQ and also a writer there too. 4 00:00:44,028 --> 00:00:49,648 And unfortunately, Gardner was unable to join us this week due to some unforeseen circumstances. 5 00:00:50,148 --> 00:00:51,262 But uh... 6 00:00:51,262 --> 00:00:54,977 but I'm not gonna say what it's, know, why he has to do community service. 7 00:00:55,333 --> 00:01:01,157 Honestly, seeing Gardner was the only reason I came on, I think I'm just going to take off. 8 00:01:01,157 --> 00:01:04,999 okay, okay, damn, we ruined his day. 9 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:14,646 But not as much as what the government might do as they are inviting the CEOs of Discord, uh Steam, Twitch, and Reddit. 10 00:01:14,646 --> 00:01:18,688 And on top of that though, FSR4 on Steam Deck? 11 00:01:18,688 --> 00:01:20,729 Is that even possible? 12 00:01:20,909 --> 00:01:25,802 And of course, know, updates on Stop Killing Games and many more topics this week. 13 00:01:25,886 --> 00:01:32,905 I'm high tech lowlife and I'm joined by uh guest star Noah Kupetsky from Steam Big HQ. 14 00:01:32,905 --> 00:01:34,105 Did I get it right? 15 00:01:34,827 --> 00:01:38,011 And also James from Games Revealed. 16 00:01:38,011 --> 00:01:39,332 How are you guys doing? 17 00:01:41,265 --> 00:01:42,371 By all means, I'll go last. 18 00:01:42,371 --> 00:01:44,280 I'm the guest, I should go last. 19 00:01:44,628 --> 00:01:47,303 No, no, no, no, no, the guest has to go first. 20 00:01:47,303 --> 00:01:48,777 What have you been playing? 21 00:01:49,355 --> 00:01:59,179 Okay, so I guess I guess I will go first I've been playing a lot but I think I think the one I've been playing the most of recently is actually endless legend 2 I'm a huge fan of 22 00:01:59,179 --> 00:02:09,624 4x games in general and Ever since I was younger I loved endless legend since it's kind of a hybrid between a 4x game and more RPG esque elements with actual progression for like 23 00:02:09,624 --> 00:02:16,747 heroes and the units that you have there um But unfortunately, I never had friends that would be willing to play with me. 24 00:02:16,747 --> 00:02:17,497 So 25 00:02:17,637 --> 00:02:21,718 Unfortunately, I played Endless Legend alone, but I'm very excited for number two. 26 00:02:21,718 --> 00:02:31,961 uh They've made some really great improvements to the formula, streamlined a lot of it and expanded on the heroes and what they can do while also simplifying it to make it easier 27 00:02:31,961 --> 00:02:34,221 for uh newcomers. 28 00:02:34,221 --> 00:02:45,464 And then the whole new tidefall, the new tidefall mechanic is significantly better over their snow mechanic in the original game with new lands that unlock, which create new 29 00:02:45,464 --> 00:02:47,895 pathways so that you can, you 30 00:02:47,949 --> 00:02:56,267 shift your tactics and strategy throughout the game with new uh resources that open up and it's good so far. 31 00:02:57,737 --> 00:02:58,747 That sounds pretty good, man. 32 00:02:58,747 --> 00:03:01,640 I haven't played any the Endless Legends games, so I'm not super familiar with them. 33 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,662 They're like tower defense, like rogue legis, almost, aren't they? 34 00:03:05,795 --> 00:03:07,626 No. 35 00:03:07,626 --> 00:03:15,572 So Endless Legend, have a whole, so Amplitude Studios is developer and they have a whole endless, like, guess series. 36 00:03:15,572 --> 00:03:19,205 And in that series, they have a bunch of different types of games within that. 37 00:03:19,205 --> 00:03:23,057 So Endless Legend is their 4X version of the game. 38 00:03:23,318 --> 00:03:32,664 Then there's Endless Space, which is basically like Stellaris, but it's space. 39 00:03:32,664 --> 00:03:34,025 ah 40 00:03:34,071 --> 00:03:37,066 I honestly, they have a good chunk of it. 41 00:03:37,066 --> 00:03:47,422 um I think one of their series is like that, but they really do kind of a little bit of everything. 42 00:03:47,584 --> 00:03:48,905 Kind of like Warhammer. 43 00:03:50,569 --> 00:03:51,390 Warhammer should do. 44 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:53,638 They should make a Warhammer fighting game. 45 00:03:53,638 --> 00:03:55,635 I bet you that would bang. 46 00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:58,112 Mortal Kombat-esque Warhammer game. 47 00:03:58,752 --> 00:04:00,919 Yeah, like, moral combat. 48 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:02,953 Like, but better, of course. 49 00:04:03,473 --> 00:04:04,433 I know. 50 00:04:04,433 --> 00:04:06,173 I really like Mortal Kombat. 51 00:04:06,173 --> 00:04:07,273 don't know. 52 00:04:07,373 --> 00:04:09,545 I don't know if Warhammer could top it. 53 00:04:10,042 --> 00:04:12,622 It'd be really good though, Warhammer in the middle. 54 00:04:12,622 --> 00:04:14,622 It could be really brutal. 55 00:04:15,122 --> 00:04:17,402 that universe is brutal. 56 00:04:17,593 --> 00:04:19,193 No, it wouldn't be bad. 57 00:04:19,193 --> 00:04:22,313 Just, I don't know if it could top Mortal Kombat for me. 58 00:04:22,313 --> 00:04:29,293 Mortal Kombat and Tekken are like my top two fighting game, 2D, 2.5D fighting games. 59 00:04:29,518 --> 00:04:30,304 Yeah. 60 00:04:30,910 --> 00:04:32,020 Yeah, it would be... 61 00:04:32,020 --> 00:04:34,544 I mean, it would be difficult, but I think they could do it. 62 00:04:34,544 --> 00:04:35,545 Like, League of... 63 00:04:35,545 --> 00:04:40,810 Like, Riot's making a League of Legends fighting game with a stupid name, but it looks pretty fun. 64 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:41,465 They call it... 65 00:04:41,465 --> 00:04:44,934 It's called 2XKO, and I'm not sure if there's... 66 00:04:44,934 --> 00:04:50,700 It's supposed to be pronounced two times KO or two times knockout, but it... 67 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:54,832 Damn. 68 00:04:54,832 --> 00:04:55,963 2K0? 69 00:04:56,805 --> 00:04:58,873 Man, that would be... 70 00:04:58,873 --> 00:04:59,238 Man... 71 00:04:59,238 --> 00:05:01,975 They should just name it... 72 00:05:01,975 --> 00:05:05,977 Just make it League of Legends Fighters. 73 00:05:05,977 --> 00:05:06,938 FighterZ. 74 00:05:06,938 --> 00:05:08,653 Lucky Dragon Ball Fighters. 75 00:05:08,653 --> 00:05:10,959 that is a- that's a name alright. 76 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,325 That's a better than fuckin' 2XKO. 77 00:05:14,789 --> 00:05:15,300 Yeah. 78 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:16,153 know what? 79 00:05:16,153 --> 00:05:17,176 I'd play this. 80 00:05:17,176 --> 00:05:18,769 I'd play 2x KO. 81 00:05:18,769 --> 00:05:21,652 Like, I'd played a ton of League of Legends in college. 82 00:05:21,652 --> 00:05:23,194 It's free to play. 83 00:05:23,195 --> 00:05:24,277 It's gonna be free to play. 84 00:05:24,277 --> 00:05:31,841 Right now they had to close beta with a lot of the big fighting game personalities like Sonic Fox and all of them trying it out. 85 00:05:31,841 --> 00:05:33,714 Like Justin Wong too. 86 00:05:34,035 --> 00:05:34,856 Damn. 87 00:05:35,486 --> 00:05:37,708 Is it gonna have their anti-cheat? 88 00:05:38,073 --> 00:05:40,441 I think it is going to have their anti-cheat. 89 00:05:40,441 --> 00:05:48,378 It'd be crazy if they didn't, especially with how much any company that has their own anti-cheat pushes it. 90 00:05:48,378 --> 00:05:51,098 I should say, is it gonna have the Valorant anti-cheat? 91 00:05:51,098 --> 00:05:55,358 Cause that, I can't really have that game on my computer. 92 00:05:56,497 --> 00:05:57,238 Yeah. 93 00:05:57,238 --> 00:05:59,664 but I don't know for certain. 94 00:06:00,406 --> 00:06:03,935 It says that my editing software is a virus, so... 95 00:06:03,998 --> 00:06:05,962 and won't open up unless I delete it. 96 00:06:06,395 --> 00:06:08,022 What's your editing stuff? 97 00:06:09,017 --> 00:06:10,290 didn't she resolve? 98 00:06:10,819 --> 00:06:16,255 I can't believe you're using such a virus anti-nus-sot-muf. 99 00:06:16,255 --> 00:06:17,276 I've already... 100 00:06:17,276 --> 00:06:18,877 I got confused. 101 00:06:21,045 --> 00:06:24,331 As I was saying it, got very confused. 102 00:06:24,974 --> 00:06:28,971 yeah, 2x KO is going to use Vanguard. 103 00:06:29,344 --> 00:06:33,846 I'm not surprised, they put that shit in League, and now you can't play League on Linux anymore. 104 00:06:33,986 --> 00:06:36,467 GloriousEggroll is very sad about that. 105 00:06:37,628 --> 00:06:38,048 Mr. 106 00:06:38,048 --> 00:06:43,470 GE himself maintained a specific version of ProtonGE just for League of Legends. 107 00:06:43,550 --> 00:06:45,851 And now he can't play League anymore. 108 00:06:46,172 --> 00:06:47,732 That's so sad. 109 00:06:48,127 --> 00:06:49,089 It is sad. 110 00:06:49,089 --> 00:06:53,362 Any company that makes those kinds of decisions, it is very sad. 111 00:06:53,362 --> 00:06:55,115 I find it sad. 112 00:06:55,376 --> 00:06:56,378 I hate that. 113 00:06:56,378 --> 00:06:57,240 I don't like that. 114 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,451 um So I guess it's James, what are you even playing this week? 115 00:07:02,424 --> 00:07:06,746 Well, I mean, I Hollow Knight essentially after we got done with last week's podcast. 116 00:07:06,746 --> 00:07:09,653 uh I beat the boss in one try. 117 00:07:10,116 --> 00:07:10,918 And so. 118 00:07:10,918 --> 00:07:11,565 so cool. 119 00:07:11,565 --> 00:07:14,240 Damn, you are a baller gamer, 120 00:07:14,372 --> 00:07:18,785 I guess, everything else was hard and I felt like the boss wasn't. 121 00:07:18,785 --> 00:07:24,169 uh So I'm gonna get on to a silk song soon. 122 00:07:24,409 --> 00:07:25,501 Yeah, and so. 123 00:07:25,501 --> 00:07:33,501 I think the last judge, I think it was. 124 00:07:33,556 --> 00:07:35,469 And you're gonna beat it in one... 125 00:07:36,253 --> 00:07:37,204 One try. 126 00:07:37,517 --> 00:07:40,777 unfortunately, I'm already past that point. 127 00:07:40,777 --> 00:07:42,317 I can't beat it in one anymore. 128 00:07:42,317 --> 00:07:44,437 only, I died once. 129 00:07:44,697 --> 00:07:46,977 But it was like, it was like one in the morning. 130 00:07:46,977 --> 00:07:48,957 So was like, I'll do it tomorrow. 131 00:07:50,228 --> 00:07:53,776 Well, hey, time's the charm, you know what they say. 132 00:07:53,882 --> 00:07:54,955 Yeah. 133 00:07:55,166 --> 00:07:56,359 you're just too good, Hi Tech. 134 00:07:56,359 --> 00:08:00,019 There's no way you're gonna ace through it. 135 00:08:00,019 --> 00:08:03,118 It'd take me a long time to get through, like any of the other bosses. 136 00:08:03,118 --> 00:08:06,492 you're gonna do so well on your next try that it's gonna count as your first. 137 00:08:06,492 --> 00:08:08,294 And you can say you beat in one try. 138 00:08:08,294 --> 00:08:11,070 I appreciate the optimism, fellas. 139 00:08:11,070 --> 00:08:13,228 We're just cursing you at this point. 140 00:08:13,228 --> 00:08:17,805 I appreciate the optimism, I hope the boss doesn't take me like a million tries to kill. 141 00:08:18,048 --> 00:08:21,333 This one boss, that would suck ass. 142 00:08:21,535 --> 00:08:24,238 But I mean, hey, the game's hard for a reason. 143 00:08:24,260 --> 00:08:25,031 For some people. 144 00:08:25,031 --> 00:08:30,588 want to talk about bosses that are cheap, Toa and the Guardians of the Sacred Tree. 145 00:08:30,588 --> 00:08:31,760 my god. 146 00:08:32,409 --> 00:08:35,240 Ooh, I heard about that, it kinda looks like Hades. 147 00:08:36,584 --> 00:08:38,706 The general gameplay is pretty much like it. 148 00:08:38,706 --> 00:08:43,893 They've got a lot of really great ideas in it, but it's just not executed well, unfortunately. 149 00:08:43,893 --> 00:08:46,896 And those bosses are just a nightmare. 150 00:08:47,195 --> 00:08:51,945 So it's like a poor man's Hades clone, especially since it's Hades 2. 151 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:53,949 even say it's a poor man's haze. 152 00:08:53,949 --> 00:08:56,800 think the presentation is really top-notch. 153 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,660 The soundtrack is phenomenal. 154 00:08:58,660 --> 00:09:02,141 The visuals pop and feel very unique. 155 00:09:02,141 --> 00:09:08,043 And they have a lot of really cool mechanics in there, like being able to forge your own sword and choose its design. 156 00:09:08,043 --> 00:09:11,204 And I made mine look like it just went through a grinder. 157 00:09:11,264 --> 00:09:14,965 And if you're running around, can actually see if you equip the sword. 158 00:09:14,965 --> 00:09:18,312 You can see your created sword in their hands. 159 00:09:18,312 --> 00:09:22,945 looking as fucked up as you make it and I definitely fucked my swords up. 160 00:09:22,945 --> 00:09:25,807 um It was awesome. 161 00:09:25,807 --> 00:09:33,673 It's just, unfortunately, it doesn't do enough to stop it from feeling too grindy. 162 00:09:33,673 --> 00:09:36,514 So there's a lot of grinding no matter what you do. 163 00:09:36,514 --> 00:09:45,240 um You have to get pretty lucky in each run to get the right upgrades that are going to really benefit you. 164 00:09:45,581 --> 00:09:48,000 And bosses, it doesn't even matter. 165 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:57,629 bosses are so bullet spongy where it just takes so long to kill them and then they just hit you like once in a like a one two combo that they have and you're just dead. 166 00:09:58,813 --> 00:09:59,291 So. 167 00:09:59,291 --> 00:10:00,344 Damn. 168 00:10:00,631 --> 00:10:02,136 That's unfortunate. 169 00:10:02,260 --> 00:10:11,016 It's if they if they I think patches could make it better but as it is right now on on release it just It's not there 170 00:10:11,602 --> 00:10:23,559 I'm sure they'll fix uh some of gripes that people are having, especially since it seems like it might be a common issue. 171 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,590 It might not just be you, right? 172 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:26,770 no, it's not just me. 173 00:10:26,770 --> 00:10:29,090 It's something I've seen others bring up. 174 00:10:29,410 --> 00:10:34,450 But even still, even if it is just me, it shouldn't be. 175 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:36,570 It's definitely not a bug I have. 176 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:49,670 just I have 500 health, and the boss does 300 health of damage, and it has combos that are really hard to detect because the chaos also kind of envelops the marker on the ground of 177 00:10:49,670 --> 00:10:51,590 where the enemy is going to attack. 178 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:53,374 So you kind of don't know. 179 00:10:53,374 --> 00:11:02,397 And with all the chaos, you accidentally dash and you hit an explosion and 300 damage and then the enemy is attacking at the same time somehow and you're just dead. 180 00:11:02,397 --> 00:11:03,777 Ah, damn. 181 00:11:04,577 --> 00:11:05,877 Sorry to hear. 182 00:11:05,877 --> 00:11:07,057 I was kinda looking forward to that game. 183 00:11:07,057 --> 00:11:09,637 Maybe I'll check it out on a sale or something. 184 00:11:10,099 --> 00:11:11,691 It's definitely worth checking out. 185 00:11:11,691 --> 00:11:14,266 Like I said, the mechanics are all there. 186 00:11:14,266 --> 00:11:21,108 Like the dual, the two swords that you have, the fact that you have two people that you control uh in each run. 187 00:11:21,108 --> 00:11:22,469 is really cool. 188 00:11:22,469 --> 00:11:24,122 It's just not executed well. 189 00:11:25,809 --> 00:11:26,389 I see. 190 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:29,361 So with that, uh I think it's time to move on to our topics. 191 00:11:29,361 --> 00:11:38,437 But before that, though, if you like this podcast, if you're listening on, we're trying to hit a thousand subscribers before the end of this year. 192 00:11:38,618 --> 00:11:46,734 So if you're listening to us from like Spotify or Apple Music or whatever podcasting service that this is on, be sure to check out our YouTube channel, give us a like and 193 00:11:46,734 --> 00:11:47,364 subscribe. 194 00:11:47,364 --> 00:11:54,779 And this will help us out immensely, especially since YouTube's been having issues with uh likes and whatnot. 195 00:11:54,779 --> 00:11:57,040 Well, not likes, but view counts and whatnot. 196 00:11:57,132 --> 00:11:59,175 visibility just in general. 197 00:11:59,258 --> 00:12:10,254 Yeah, it's been it's been rough YouTube says it doesn't affect your ad revenue because they stopped counting uh ad free views like ad watch they said they stopped counting ad 198 00:12:10,254 --> 00:12:20,629 block views as like views and that it doesn't affect your monetization or whatever but like Still kind of affects you though to be honest because like some like some 199 00:12:22,441 --> 00:12:25,575 I think it affects you but it also is a two problem issue. 200 00:12:25,575 --> 00:12:30,281 I revenue is greatly down and also views but I don't think they correlate fully. 201 00:12:30,281 --> 00:12:35,902 think YouTube is screwing with how much people get paid out on ads. 202 00:12:35,902 --> 00:12:44,560 not to mention YouTube started to re-emphasize shorts more, because I mean, we even noticed this in our own channel, where we don't get that many subscribers per episode, per 203 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:51,427 like two hour or so episodes, but when we start doing shorts again, the subscribers start rolling back in. 204 00:12:51,881 --> 00:12:53,883 Yeah, I just that shit at me. 205 00:12:53,883 --> 00:12:56,876 I need to the shorts back up and scheduled. 206 00:12:57,491 --> 00:12:58,572 I uh. 207 00:12:58,572 --> 00:12:59,913 shorts might be a good idea. 208 00:12:59,913 --> 00:13:01,340 I don't do that. 209 00:13:02,105 --> 00:13:02,807 It's something... 210 00:13:02,807 --> 00:13:04,054 I feel like it's something I should... 211 00:13:04,054 --> 00:13:06,105 it fairly easy with the tool. 212 00:13:06,105 --> 00:13:11,448 At least get it going because here's well, I don't think it's full YouTube's fault. 213 00:13:11,448 --> 00:13:14,950 It is our, it's just how things are kind of evolving. 214 00:13:14,950 --> 00:13:16,303 People are much. 215 00:13:16,303 --> 00:13:17,443 a whole with TikTok. 216 00:13:17,443 --> 00:13:18,608 Yeah, I get it. 217 00:13:18,623 --> 00:13:23,306 People are more willing to give you 30 seconds than two hours. 218 00:13:23,306 --> 00:13:26,928 And so they see a two hour video, they're not as likely to click it. 219 00:13:26,928 --> 00:13:37,815 But if you catch them with the hook of a small video of a little clip of it, and like, okay, I get what this is, then they might go, YouTube needs to do a better job of linking 220 00:13:37,815 --> 00:13:38,966 the content better. 221 00:13:38,966 --> 00:13:42,978 Right now it does, you can, but I don't think it's great yet. 222 00:13:43,278 --> 00:13:44,619 But yeah. 223 00:13:44,714 --> 00:13:46,434 that's the idea, man. 224 00:13:47,135 --> 00:13:49,937 Lure them in with the short and then they watch the full episode. 225 00:13:49,937 --> 00:13:51,998 That's kind of the idea behind it. 226 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:54,780 But hey, mean, it is what it is, man. 227 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:56,040 TikTok. 228 00:13:56,641 --> 00:13:59,501 It's probably the number two video platform. 229 00:13:59,501 --> 00:14:02,764 People are saying they want a viable alternative to YouTube. 230 00:14:02,764 --> 00:14:08,707 Unfortunately, TikTok is the only other alternative and they don't let you upload anything past 10 minutes, I don't think. 231 00:14:09,688 --> 00:14:11,244 They certainly won't let us upload. 232 00:14:11,244 --> 00:14:13,130 a long time for TikTok. 233 00:14:13,130 --> 00:14:14,974 I would think like three or four. 234 00:14:15,563 --> 00:14:19,029 No, they recently upped the limits. 235 00:14:19,029 --> 00:14:23,756 Of course, we still wouldn't be able to upload like a full episode of the podcast on there. 236 00:14:23,756 --> 00:14:24,047 we do. 237 00:14:24,047 --> 00:14:29,846 We just do part one, part two, part three, part four, part five, part six. 238 00:14:30,468 --> 00:14:31,409 Yes. 239 00:14:31,877 --> 00:14:34,552 some topics wouldn't even fit one part, 240 00:14:35,116 --> 00:14:36,383 Jesus Christ. 241 00:14:36,383 --> 00:14:40,018 Part uh 1B. 242 00:14:40,018 --> 00:14:40,550 1A. 243 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:45,372 In the end you've got like 25 shorts just for one podcast episode. 244 00:14:46,361 --> 00:14:48,521 Man, that would be crazy. 245 00:14:48,941 --> 00:14:50,568 All right, so it's time to get back. 246 00:14:50,568 --> 00:14:53,619 that tool when this is done, I'm curious. 247 00:14:53,979 --> 00:14:56,048 Yes, uh Jameswell. 248 00:14:56,048 --> 00:14:56,642 uh 249 00:14:56,642 --> 00:14:58,770 Clips just as a, yeah. 250 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:01,002 Opus Clips. 251 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,306 One more time, just one person. 252 00:15:05,097 --> 00:15:06,638 I'll post it in Discord right now. 253 00:15:06,638 --> 00:15:11,212 Okay, let's get into the topic about how our freedoms are taking over. 254 00:15:11,212 --> 00:15:11,953 They're gone. 255 00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:13,254 No more games. 256 00:15:13,254 --> 00:15:15,275 Like only certain types of games. 257 00:15:15,744 --> 00:15:18,097 zero games ever made ever again. 258 00:15:18,304 --> 00:15:18,799 Yeah. 259 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,452 this is in wake of the uh assassination of Charlie Kirk. 260 00:15:22,452 --> 00:15:24,874 uh Figured I didn't get that out of way first. 261 00:15:25,035 --> 00:15:31,860 Essentially, they are inviting the CEOs of Discord, Steam, Twitch, and Reddit. 262 00:15:32,141 --> 00:15:36,105 And they're all talking about the radicalization of online forum users. 263 00:15:36,105 --> 00:15:38,546 But like, here's my thing though. 264 00:15:39,388 --> 00:15:41,509 What about Twitter and Facebook? 265 00:15:42,281 --> 00:15:45,084 This is why it's really polarizing. 266 00:15:45,084 --> 00:15:57,955 South Park did a really good episode on this on why they're probably not in that lineup because they've given Filthy to the current administration. 267 00:15:57,955 --> 00:16:08,404 um Meaning they're placating to the whole, like they're already said, yeah, here you go, here's your prize, we're gonna invest in whatever, um invested in, you know, whatever. 268 00:16:08,733 --> 00:16:09,977 Yeah. 269 00:16:10,085 --> 00:16:20,810 And so it's really weird because Discord was involved in like what happened with, you know, with the assassination. 270 00:16:20,810 --> 00:16:27,373 But uh Steam, uh I don't think, Steam, Twitch and Reddit, I don't think were involved. 271 00:16:27,373 --> 00:16:30,494 And we don't even know if there's any correlation at all. 272 00:16:30,494 --> 00:16:34,936 So far, I don't think there's anything in Discovery with everything. 273 00:16:34,936 --> 00:16:35,736 So. 274 00:16:37,402 --> 00:16:43,042 So here's a letter to Discord, Discord CEO Mr. 275 00:16:43,042 --> 00:16:43,942 Sakini. 276 00:16:44,262 --> 00:16:51,902 So as you can see right here, he's been invited on Wednesday, October the 8th at 10 a.m. 277 00:16:51,982 --> 00:16:55,042 Write this down because this will be very important to hear. 278 00:16:55,042 --> 00:17:04,754 Now don't know if this will actually result in any change, but it is kind of a... 279 00:17:05,508 --> 00:17:10,841 conundrum to see what's going on, but I think the main reason why we're talking about this topic is because Mr. 280 00:17:10,841 --> 00:17:14,804 Gabe Newell himself was invited as you can see here. 281 00:17:15,605 --> 00:17:16,905 They want to parlay with Mr. 282 00:17:16,905 --> 00:17:24,230 Gabe Newell because they think that Steam is responsible for uh extremism on the internet. 283 00:17:25,297 --> 00:17:34,312 It kind of sounds like we're getting back to video games being a motivation for uh crimes being committed when that has been debunked multiple times. 284 00:17:34,312 --> 00:17:35,572 No, they are. 285 00:17:35,572 --> 00:17:36,332 are. 286 00:17:36,332 --> 00:17:37,832 RFK Jr. 287 00:17:38,092 --> 00:17:43,352 has specifically pointed out video games, I believe, at one point, and so has someone else in the administration. 288 00:17:43,352 --> 00:17:46,528 And so they're trying to bring video games back into it. 289 00:17:46,835 --> 00:17:47,855 Got it. 290 00:17:48,837 --> 00:17:51,098 It's still, it's still been debunked. 291 00:17:51,459 --> 00:17:55,221 That doesn't change just because, just because RFK Jr. 292 00:17:55,221 --> 00:17:56,662 said something about it. 293 00:17:56,771 --> 00:18:07,279 Well, the problem now is that they're trying to bring it into this whole Charlie Kirk assassination thing, which, for full disclosure, we don't endorse any political violence. 294 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:08,840 It's a... 295 00:18:09,301 --> 00:18:11,162 Or violence in general, yes. 296 00:18:11,303 --> 00:18:24,092 Yeah, we don't endorse violence in general, but it's very concerning that they would point to this, uh because the kid played Helldivers 2, Counter-Strike 2, VRChat. 297 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,033 Like, you gotta be kidding me. 298 00:18:29,033 --> 00:18:36,281 And some people in government are actually saying that they honed their skills in Counter-Strike or Helldivers. 299 00:18:36,281 --> 00:18:37,201 No! 300 00:18:37,442 --> 00:18:39,765 Hone your skills in fi- Look, listen. 301 00:18:39,765 --> 00:18:44,751 Playing in FPS with like a mouse and keyboard is very different compared to like shooting an actual gun. 302 00:18:44,751 --> 00:18:47,948 I mean, it's not- it should be pretty obvious, right? 303 00:18:47,948 --> 00:18:49,768 Hi Tech, have you shot a gun before? 304 00:18:51,228 --> 00:18:53,688 Sorry, I'm not meaning to call you out. 305 00:18:53,688 --> 00:18:54,528 Okay. 306 00:18:55,748 --> 00:19:05,408 So if Gardner was here, I have, if Gardner was here, it is, he would also, you know, agree with me, I think, on this. 307 00:19:05,408 --> 00:19:06,968 It is very different. 308 00:19:07,248 --> 00:19:13,368 Yeah, like it can help with like, reflexes and some other stuff, but like, it does not translate one to one. 309 00:19:13,368 --> 00:19:15,152 It is, it can help with like, 310 00:19:15,152 --> 00:19:21,639 a couple of things, but if you're good in the game, it does not mean you're going to be good at all in the real thing. 311 00:19:21,639 --> 00:19:33,542 haven't we also seen pictures of the assassinator or the assassin, oh my god, the assassin holding guns? 312 00:19:33,542 --> 00:19:34,266 awesome. 313 00:19:34,266 --> 00:19:37,114 Is he like a son of Arnold Schwarzenegger? 314 00:19:37,114 --> 00:19:37,956 lol 315 00:19:37,956 --> 00:19:39,718 like a Terminator-esque. 316 00:19:39,718 --> 00:19:41,570 Yeah, that's what I was going for. 317 00:19:41,570 --> 00:19:43,742 Definitely wasn't just misspeaking. 318 00:19:43,742 --> 00:19:47,125 um No, but didn't he have pictures? 319 00:19:47,125 --> 00:19:51,369 Weren't there pictures shown of him like holding guns in the past? 320 00:19:51,369 --> 00:19:57,402 Like, I thought his family was pro-gun. 321 00:19:57,402 --> 00:20:03,282 Yeah, so I'm sure they would have let him go in the back and shoot some cans with the guns. 322 00:20:03,282 --> 00:20:05,317 I know some people that do that. 323 00:20:05,317 --> 00:20:08,991 I know, I wouldn't assume that he goes in the bag and shoots some cans. 324 00:20:09,492 --> 00:20:12,375 That takes things too far. 325 00:20:14,275 --> 00:20:19,652 I can safely assume that like they're very pro-gun, but yeah, that is what it is. 326 00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:26,128 though, violence in video games isn't the same as violence in real life, because I mean, it's... 327 00:20:26,128 --> 00:20:27,188 they're totally... 328 00:20:27,188 --> 00:20:33,433 like I get that some people, like, they can't distinguish between reality and fiction. 329 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:36,075 It's been a lot more of that happening as of recently. 330 00:20:36,516 --> 00:20:37,396 But... 331 00:20:37,922 --> 00:20:40,598 yeah, it's a mental health issue. 332 00:20:41,099 --> 00:20:42,680 Here's my thing though. 333 00:20:43,761 --> 00:20:45,272 Do you think this... 334 00:20:45,496 --> 00:20:49,613 this whole thing could have a real chance of somehow implicating video games? 335 00:20:49,655 --> 00:20:57,730 Or do think the video games industry will be exonerated from any of this responsibility? 336 00:20:58,143 --> 00:21:11,677 So I think most people will exonerate it because studies have already been done that shows that there isn't a correlation between the two. 337 00:21:11,738 --> 00:21:12,465 However... 338 00:21:12,465 --> 00:21:16,301 But we're not talking about most people, we're talking about the government. 339 00:21:16,339 --> 00:21:18,820 That's what I was about to get to that. 340 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:19,780 That's what I said. 341 00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:35,637 However, with this administration, I think it's very possible that like if, if Trump wanted, uh, something done similar to what, you know, I'm not going to say that, um, but I 342 00:21:35,637 --> 00:21:45,099 think it's definitely more likely to happen as we've already seen free speech been, you know, tampered with recently. 343 00:21:45,099 --> 00:21:46,231 Uh, 344 00:21:46,281 --> 00:21:49,139 this is just another version of free speech being tampered with. 345 00:21:49,139 --> 00:21:52,701 And yeah, I think definitely possible. 346 00:21:52,701 --> 00:21:54,722 a hypothetical. 347 00:21:55,123 --> 00:21:57,695 What if Trump wanted Grand Theft Auto to be banned? 348 00:21:57,695 --> 00:22:01,909 Because as you know, Grand Theft Auto is the leading cause of crime... 349 00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:03,290 of crimes. 350 00:22:03,290 --> 00:22:05,655 What if they banned Grand Theft Auto 6... 351 00:22:05,655 --> 00:22:08,715 What if they banned GTA 6 before it got released? 352 00:22:08,715 --> 00:22:10,136 Ban it from ever being released? 353 00:22:10,136 --> 00:22:14,283 uh 354 00:22:14,283 --> 00:22:25,906 would be, I can already see Rockstar would be lobbying to hell and back to get whatever they can, whoever they can into the office to overturn that. 355 00:22:25,906 --> 00:22:29,678 They put way too much money into Grand Theft Auto 6. 356 00:22:29,678 --> 00:22:34,359 If it is not allowed to be released, oh, they're screwed. 357 00:22:34,574 --> 00:22:37,543 that would definitely put them in bankruptcy, for sure, I would imagine. 358 00:22:37,543 --> 00:22:48,841 no it wouldn't put them in bankruptcy but ah they wouldn't ban it they'd be like okay you got to censor it you can't have any here's a shade here's a little shade thing from family 359 00:22:48,841 --> 00:22:56,486 guy you can't have anyone that's darker than no but i'm sorry that's bad joke but like they're 360 00:22:56,551 --> 00:22:58,195 it's it's family guy. 361 00:22:58,195 --> 00:22:59,288 You're just quoting a joke. 362 00:22:59,288 --> 00:23:00,114 It's OK. 363 00:23:00,114 --> 00:23:01,885 quoting a joke. 364 00:23:01,965 --> 00:23:11,792 it's, I could see them censoring, maybe even more like Australia or maybe some of the Asian countries where, you know, instead of blood being red, it's gonna be white. 365 00:23:11,792 --> 00:23:17,696 ah Which you've seen some of those games, right, that got edited to white. 366 00:23:17,957 --> 00:23:21,540 Well, it doesn't look good. 367 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:22,387 Yeah. 368 00:23:22,387 --> 00:23:24,441 blood from the androids and aliens. 369 00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:28,601 Yeah, Noel, that's not what people think it is, but yeah. 370 00:23:28,676 --> 00:23:32,143 But look, I'm just saying it will be like that, you know? 371 00:23:32,143 --> 00:23:33,657 Look. 372 00:23:33,910 --> 00:23:34,864 So we know rocks. 373 00:23:34,864 --> 00:23:42,304 turn GTA 6 into an alien game with like the actual alien franchise, I'd actually be 100 % like for this. 374 00:23:42,304 --> 00:23:46,604 And I would support our administration at that point. 375 00:23:46,604 --> 00:23:48,324 That sounds so cool. 376 00:23:49,464 --> 00:23:50,174 Yes. 377 00:23:50,174 --> 00:23:51,014 privilege? 378 00:23:52,134 --> 00:23:56,274 So, do think the gamers would care though? 379 00:23:56,274 --> 00:24:00,434 Like, cause we know Rockstar wouldn't take this lightly. 380 00:24:00,434 --> 00:24:03,034 Do you think the gamers would riot in the streets? 381 00:24:03,034 --> 00:24:07,936 Yes, GTA six is going to be the biggest game to come out ever. 382 00:24:08,116 --> 00:24:10,237 And whether it's good or not. 383 00:24:11,238 --> 00:24:12,258 Agreed. 384 00:24:12,999 --> 00:24:17,961 Ever up to that point, ever that in existence at this point that it does. 385 00:24:17,961 --> 00:24:21,743 So I can see them really targeting it. 386 00:24:21,743 --> 00:24:31,228 And Rockstar has used it in the past for marketing, but hopefully they don't tow the line too much on this because they like. 387 00:24:31,810 --> 00:24:42,964 The administration, it will be interesting to what they do because they're all over the place on everything and they don't really listen to um the judges too much. 388 00:24:42,964 --> 00:24:44,305 They just do executive orders. 389 00:24:44,305 --> 00:24:48,622 And so that'd be interesting, like a GTA six ban executive executive order. 390 00:24:48,622 --> 00:24:51,037 That would be insane, to be honest. 391 00:24:51,144 --> 00:24:51,557 Now... 392 00:24:51,557 --> 00:24:53,449 I don't think it'll happen. 393 00:24:53,449 --> 00:25:03,637 think when it comes to this administration, the big thing that they look at is, you know, at least in Trump's view, profit. 394 00:25:03,637 --> 00:25:09,021 And with Rockstar paying taxes, like it would bring in massive amounts of profit. 395 00:25:09,021 --> 00:25:13,724 And Rockstar, isn't Rockstar based in the US, like their main headquarters? 396 00:25:13,865 --> 00:25:14,345 Yeah. 397 00:25:14,345 --> 00:25:16,859 So I don't think he would actually do anything. 398 00:25:16,859 --> 00:25:22,093 If it was made by a company that's based outside the US, that could be different. 399 00:25:22,135 --> 00:25:25,243 But since they're based in the US, I think they're safe. 400 00:25:26,472 --> 00:25:27,327 I don't think so. 401 00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:38,347 I'm sure they have studios outside of the US, but I'm pretty sure that their main headquarters is in New York. 402 00:25:38,487 --> 00:25:41,947 Their parent organization is Take Two, which is also in New York. 403 00:25:42,027 --> 00:25:44,855 ultimately it is a US company. 404 00:25:45,490 --> 00:25:48,101 So here's a counterpoint. 405 00:25:48,842 --> 00:25:56,827 I think maybe Trump might threaten a little bit so that uh he gets the US to have stock in the company. 406 00:25:57,088 --> 00:25:58,888 Just like Intel. 407 00:25:59,469 --> 00:26:02,794 just like, well, the US owns a part of Intel now, so. 408 00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:05,499 Yeah, and I think that's a wrong decision. 409 00:26:05,936 --> 00:26:07,625 Yeah, well it's- it's a- 410 00:26:07,625 --> 00:26:09,496 gonna fail, unfortunately. 411 00:26:11,113 --> 00:26:20,881 Here's the thing though, the government, if it's run effectively, when it invests in companies and stuff, those companies do very well. 412 00:26:21,221 --> 00:26:26,045 But the way that this is going, it's like reverse socialism, which is kind of funny. 413 00:26:26,045 --> 00:26:35,052 ah It's really funny that it's happening this way, but that's a whole other rebel hole to go down. 414 00:26:35,128 --> 00:26:36,721 So in addition... 415 00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:38,960 time to be alive. 416 00:26:39,713 --> 00:26:40,519 Yes. 417 00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:45,383 Steam and Discord, we also have Twitch right here, which... 418 00:26:46,645 --> 00:26:53,931 We know nothing about what content the kid watches, at least I don't know anything about the content, but... 419 00:26:54,392 --> 00:27:06,892 Of course, a lot of people in this field consider Twitch to be liable because they allow uh Hasanabi to be one of their top stars, essentially. 420 00:27:07,180 --> 00:27:10,753 and some people in the right really don't like him, so to speak. 421 00:27:11,647 --> 00:27:17,787 Well, anyone who disagrees is usually seen as an enemy. 422 00:27:19,147 --> 00:27:23,487 And I'd say that's true for all sides. 423 00:27:24,657 --> 00:27:25,257 I agree. 424 00:27:25,257 --> 00:27:35,592 um He can be pretty inflammatory at times, uh so does, mean, should, Kick should be up there, not Steam. 425 00:27:35,592 --> 00:27:36,682 I'll be honest. 426 00:27:36,682 --> 00:27:39,203 Kick is crazy. 427 00:27:40,436 --> 00:27:48,840 Like if you want to talk about stuff that happens on that, that's crazy from streamers, Kick is the one that they should be going after potentially. 428 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,903 of my kick, the better. 429 00:27:49,903 --> 00:27:53,783 that been very friendly to Trump, like Aiden Ross? 430 00:27:53,783 --> 00:27:55,685 yeah, that's probably why they're not up there. 431 00:27:55,685 --> 00:27:57,867 Same deal with Facebook and Twitter, to be honest. 432 00:27:57,867 --> 00:28:01,511 Even though there's way more of that shit on Twitter, for sure. 433 00:28:01,511 --> 00:28:13,704 I would say there is way more inflammatory, especially compared to you know, valve and steam and video games, which again has been debunked when you have many studies that have 434 00:28:13,704 --> 00:28:26,658 come out showing how the negative effects of like Facebook and Instagram have been on younger minds and how both Facebook and Twitter have both been subject to fake 435 00:28:26,658 --> 00:28:31,187 advertisements that have been used for misinformation. 436 00:28:31,187 --> 00:28:40,895 to sway people, that's what we should be targeting, because it could be misinformation that could be influencing younger minds to commit crimes. 437 00:28:41,564 --> 00:28:45,977 and older minds, Facebook is notorious for promoting. 438 00:28:45,977 --> 00:28:51,480 Yes, but Facebook co-tos to the current government, so of course, they're safe. 439 00:28:52,186 --> 00:28:53,987 TikTok does too. 440 00:28:54,147 --> 00:28:59,472 That's why you don't, anyone that's like in good favor of the administration is not on there. 441 00:28:59,472 --> 00:29:03,635 And that being said, that is very, very bad, by the way. 442 00:29:03,635 --> 00:29:05,081 ah 443 00:29:05,081 --> 00:29:07,576 the banning of TikTok, which is kind of funny. 444 00:29:08,182 --> 00:29:11,081 Well, right now, they're... 445 00:29:11,081 --> 00:29:11,964 not to ban it. 446 00:29:11,964 --> 00:29:16,892 I know they're trying to like find a new buyer for it, which I also find ridiculous, but. 447 00:29:16,892 --> 00:29:24,378 They have a buyer and it's, I can't remember the name, but it's some conservative billionaire. 448 00:29:24,378 --> 00:29:29,817 so, take it with what it is. 449 00:29:29,817 --> 00:29:32,724 Like it's just gonna be another Facebook at this point. 450 00:29:32,924 --> 00:29:35,246 I like Instagram, but I'm so done with it. 451 00:29:35,246 --> 00:29:37,728 I just want an alternative that just doesn't suck. 452 00:29:37,728 --> 00:29:43,231 ah Blue Sky's pretty good, but I don't know. 453 00:29:43,231 --> 00:29:44,804 Blue Sky needs some work. 454 00:29:45,336 --> 00:29:49,140 Yeah, blue- I don't really go on blue sky that often. 455 00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:50,271 I like blue sky. 456 00:29:50,271 --> 00:29:56,824 It's just not, it's not fully ready for prime time. 457 00:29:57,125 --> 00:29:59,276 Twitter feels much more snappy. 458 00:29:59,276 --> 00:30:01,627 There's more features to it. 459 00:30:01,627 --> 00:30:08,771 uh And as much as I don't like Instagram, I personally don't enjoy using it. 460 00:30:09,131 --> 00:30:10,432 It's pretty unmatched. 461 00:30:10,432 --> 00:30:15,804 There's not really anyone, any other uh social media that kind of doesn't like Instagram right now. 462 00:30:15,804 --> 00:30:18,826 What's your guys' poison of choice on this? 463 00:30:18,826 --> 00:30:22,308 What do you guys go to when you open up your phone for social media? 464 00:30:22,899 --> 00:30:27,481 social media, business-wise or personal? 465 00:30:27,794 --> 00:30:29,158 personal first than business. 466 00:30:29,158 --> 00:30:32,347 Well, business just makes like you have to do everything but personal. 467 00:30:32,347 --> 00:30:37,532 uh I really don't use social media as personal. 468 00:30:38,193 --> 00:30:47,734 Like I have accounts and I've told myself to use it more because I could be using it as like a way to promote myself which could promote, you know, the website but I just never, 469 00:30:47,734 --> 00:30:49,113 I never do it. 470 00:30:49,154 --> 00:30:52,219 I mean, people usually have social media managers for that. 471 00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:57,710 Like, some sort of intern locked away doing social media posts. 472 00:30:57,724 --> 00:30:58,730 for exposure. 473 00:30:58,730 --> 00:31:00,955 SDHQ has no interns. 474 00:31:00,955 --> 00:31:02,138 I do it all. 475 00:31:05,205 --> 00:31:07,636 Yeah, it is not fun. 476 00:31:07,636 --> 00:31:12,037 I've I'm horrible with my like branding accounts on social media. 477 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:17,950 I'm a little better with with off the console, but need to get better with that because I kind of been posting clips. 478 00:31:17,950 --> 00:31:22,612 But high tech, I know that you're on X quite a bit. 479 00:31:23,290 --> 00:31:24,811 It's not X, it's called Twitter. 480 00:31:25,245 --> 00:31:28,688 I know, I agree, we should just call it Twitter. 481 00:31:31,372 --> 00:31:33,373 I go there and browse. 482 00:31:33,875 --> 00:31:37,994 I do not like Twitter at all, I hate it so much right now. 483 00:31:37,994 --> 00:31:40,248 on the internet, because it's funny. 484 00:31:41,064 --> 00:31:46,224 Ah, dude, I get on there and I just get, my stress level goes up so high. 485 00:31:46,224 --> 00:31:47,843 I can't do it. 486 00:31:47,903 --> 00:31:51,825 That's usually that's honestly how I feel about all social media nowadays. 487 00:31:51,825 --> 00:32:02,471 Like even on blue sky I see I see a lot of it like luckily the one thing I really do like about blue sky is that you can create your own uh create your own feeds and I think that 488 00:32:02,471 --> 00:32:14,557 is really smart of them to do so I just have a feed that only has post that mention you know handhelds the steam deck ally legion go any of that stuff and that's all and I just 489 00:32:14,557 --> 00:32:17,395 stay on that and it's so wonderful it's 490 00:32:17,395 --> 00:32:18,816 share those feeds. 491 00:32:19,138 --> 00:32:21,422 You can share those feeds with other people too, I think. 492 00:32:21,843 --> 00:32:23,504 Now you guys want my feed? 493 00:32:23,548 --> 00:32:25,050 I want your feed. 494 00:32:25,092 --> 00:32:26,254 Not feet, but feed. 495 00:32:26,254 --> 00:32:27,034 ah 496 00:32:27,034 --> 00:32:27,664 my feed. 497 00:32:27,664 --> 00:32:29,645 It's called Handheld Mentions. 498 00:32:31,206 --> 00:32:34,357 But once I figure out how, yeah, I can share it. 499 00:32:34,357 --> 00:32:35,628 I have no problem with that. 500 00:32:35,628 --> 00:32:36,138 It's nice. 501 00:32:36,138 --> 00:32:37,648 I'm looking through it right now. 502 00:32:37,648 --> 00:32:38,469 Look at that. 503 00:32:38,469 --> 00:32:41,910 game called Gemporium is Steam Deck verified. 504 00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:45,892 This person released a demo ship miner that runs on the Steam Deck. 505 00:32:46,352 --> 00:32:51,014 Five settings that are ruining your Steam Deck experience from America Gist. 506 00:32:51,034 --> 00:32:53,535 Thank god, America. 507 00:32:53,603 --> 00:32:54,021 Yo. 508 00:32:54,021 --> 00:32:55,772 our Steam Deck experience. 509 00:32:56,604 --> 00:32:57,784 Nice. 510 00:32:57,905 --> 00:33:04,813 I do like that a lot because like with Twitter, it's designed to infuriate you because they want you to keep you on longer. 511 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,611 I don't like being manipulated like that. 512 00:33:07,611 --> 00:33:08,352 me. 513 00:33:08,713 --> 00:33:15,891 I'm telling you though, the like I don't move from that feed because as soon as I do, it's politics. 514 00:33:15,891 --> 00:33:25,061 And you can see in trending like one, two, three, three of the three of the six things in trending right now are politics related. 515 00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:28,244 It's because politics are so inflammatory at this moment. 516 00:33:28,244 --> 00:33:32,429 think in a couple of years, if things get better, it will just die down. 517 00:33:32,429 --> 00:33:33,810 It's how it was in the past too. 518 00:33:33,810 --> 00:33:35,191 ah 519 00:33:35,191 --> 00:33:35,871 I hope so. 520 00:33:35,871 --> 00:33:47,695 Do you know, I still look back to the good old days of like when, I'm not going to say Obama was like an amazing president, you personal feelings aside. 521 00:33:47,695 --> 00:33:57,017 There was just so much respect between the two people running for president, between Obama and McCain and Obama and Mitt Romney. 522 00:33:57,017 --> 00:33:58,628 It was so respectful. 523 00:33:58,628 --> 00:34:03,913 Like even though they had very big disagreements about policies and how the government should be run. 524 00:34:03,913 --> 00:34:07,905 They still respected each other and they still respected the government. 525 00:34:07,905 --> 00:34:11,067 And I think that was just, it was beautiful. 526 00:34:11,067 --> 00:34:19,321 Like we didn't have to all agree on how to run the country, but we could all respect each other and love the country that we live in. 527 00:34:19,321 --> 00:34:26,187 And instead now it's just filled with vitriol and disappointment. 528 00:34:26,187 --> 00:34:29,742 were, though, given how everyone's changed drastically? 529 00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:37,840 I think it is, but it's just gonna take a lot more hurt and people are hurting right now and it just sucks that we're gonna have to get through this. 530 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,760 think... 531 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,899 I don't think it'll ever return completely. 532 00:34:41,899 --> 00:34:43,391 I think there is still going to be... 533 00:34:43,391 --> 00:34:50,928 I think we've gone too far that there are going to be people and groups that are still very, very inflammatory. 534 00:34:50,928 --> 00:34:55,081 And I don't think that's ever going to change. 535 00:34:55,081 --> 00:34:56,992 It might get a little bit... 536 00:34:57,053 --> 00:34:58,713 a little bit... 537 00:34:58,894 --> 00:35:00,074 What is it? 538 00:35:00,595 --> 00:35:07,039 It might not be as dramatic and or the groups might have less people than they do now. 539 00:35:07,091 --> 00:35:11,344 But I don't think it's ever going to completely go back to the way things were. 540 00:35:11,344 --> 00:35:17,669 Here's the secret though, a little, it's not really a secret, but those groups existed before all this crap happened. 541 00:35:17,669 --> 00:35:23,574 A big catalyst for this is like Fox News being created in the 80s and some other stuff. 542 00:35:23,574 --> 00:35:29,198 Like it is designed for reactionary um content. 543 00:35:29,198 --> 00:35:30,078 So. 544 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,980 Yeah. 545 00:35:32,874 --> 00:35:35,254 profit incentive. 546 00:35:35,614 --> 00:35:36,414 Yeah. 547 00:35:36,414 --> 00:35:39,454 That's why people with blue checkmarks like to rage-bait all the time. 548 00:35:39,454 --> 00:35:48,554 That used to never happen on Twitter because you used to not make money when you were verified or had Twitter blue or whatever it used to be called. 549 00:35:49,743 --> 00:35:50,761 Yeah. 550 00:35:52,188 --> 00:35:53,008 it was nice. 551 00:35:53,008 --> 00:35:54,068 just don't... 552 00:35:54,068 --> 00:35:56,039 Unfortunately, I don't see that changing. 553 00:35:56,039 --> 00:36:02,630 And even after, like, let's say the whole MAGA movement just somehow dies. 554 00:36:02,691 --> 00:36:10,172 I don't see it changing because Twitter is still going to be the way it is now and people are still going be able to make money, so they're still going to rage bait. 555 00:36:10,913 --> 00:36:13,554 And these groups, they're not going to be completely eradicated. 556 00:36:13,554 --> 00:36:15,534 Like you said, they existed before. 557 00:36:15,534 --> 00:36:17,515 Now I think they have a platform. 558 00:36:17,515 --> 00:36:19,145 And I think that is... 559 00:36:19,145 --> 00:36:22,287 they're not going to let go of that platform even if it's tiny. 560 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,789 They truly are the masters of baiting. 561 00:36:25,168 --> 00:36:26,231 Yeah. 562 00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:30,230 Also, Reddit was invited as well. 563 00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:42,130 I'm not really big on Redd- Honestly man, Redditors annoy me more and more as of recently because Redditors have always had this whole year's of thou. 564 00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:53,590 And also when they're talking about serious shit, one person always likes to make some sort snarky comment under a comment and that really annoys me for some reason. 565 00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:54,903 It's- 566 00:36:54,903 --> 00:36:56,155 every social? 567 00:36:56,356 --> 00:36:59,983 I'm a big Reddit person, so I apologize. 568 00:37:01,042 --> 00:37:02,742 prevalent on Reddit. 569 00:37:03,642 --> 00:37:04,144 Yeah. 570 00:37:04,144 --> 00:37:06,685 because I can kind of control my feed a little bit. 571 00:37:06,685 --> 00:37:16,210 Like I can join groups I want and they'll still inject some stuff sometimes, but like it's been the one I've been able to control my feed the best out of all the social medias. 572 00:37:16,210 --> 00:37:25,474 If I like need a good time, just relax, I get on Instagram because my Instagram feed is pretty designed to just be fun and interesting. 573 00:37:25,474 --> 00:37:29,956 It gets a little political sometimes, but for the most part, I can just relax. 574 00:37:30,319 --> 00:37:31,737 That sounds lovely. 575 00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:37,466 And so, uh October 8th is the day of reckoning. 576 00:37:37,466 --> 00:37:39,048 We don't know what's gonna happen. 577 00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:40,982 We don't know, because I think personally speaking... 578 00:37:40,982 --> 00:37:41,513 reckoning. 579 00:37:41,513 --> 00:37:43,676 don't think anything major is going to happen. 580 00:37:43,676 --> 00:37:45,878 I think they're going to try to pin blame. 581 00:37:45,878 --> 00:37:48,380 It's not going to, it's not going to stick. 582 00:37:48,461 --> 00:37:52,225 I think the general public is going to see through it. 583 00:37:52,286 --> 00:38:00,695 Unfortunately, what the administration does or what they want to do is going to be very, very up in the air, but 584 00:38:01,222 --> 00:38:01,402 you... 585 00:38:01,402 --> 00:38:02,372 Honestly, you would think... 586 00:38:02,372 --> 00:38:05,512 record, Noah, with predictions? 587 00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:16,550 Uh, I don't keep track of my predictions since I, okay, look, I, I would say, I would say, let's, just, let's just go the basic. 588 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:17,860 My predictions can be 50 50. 589 00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:19,761 I don't know how accurate they are. 590 00:38:19,761 --> 00:38:28,695 think I'm more accurate when I'm predicting game stuff, but, um, when it comes to like politics and things like that, I, I'm not a hundred percent sure. 591 00:38:28,695 --> 00:38:32,697 This is, this is more, I would consider it wishful thinking. 592 00:38:33,202 --> 00:38:33,614 Yeah. 593 00:38:33,614 --> 00:38:37,448 It would be a shame for to find out that no one actually uses Steam to communicate with one another. 594 00:38:37,448 --> 00:38:41,763 Come on, let's be honest. 595 00:38:41,763 --> 00:38:45,360 Barely anyone uses Steam, like, chat to talk. 596 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,485 game chats, they're just gonna be like, wow. 597 00:38:48,485 --> 00:38:50,439 as my main social media. 598 00:38:51,548 --> 00:38:51,960 Yeah 599 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,191 The is an interesting one. 600 00:38:53,191 --> 00:39:04,697 It's structured like it wants to be a social media, but like no one really uses the social media aspect outside of like maybe pimping their profiles out. 601 00:39:05,698 --> 00:39:06,151 Which 602 00:39:06,151 --> 00:39:07,614 I like that we have the option. 603 00:39:07,614 --> 00:39:16,932 of these days, one of these days we're all gonna, I'm gonna move right on over to steam social media full time. 604 00:39:17,053 --> 00:39:18,299 One of these days. 605 00:39:18,299 --> 00:39:19,916 be crazy if you did. 606 00:39:20,306 --> 00:39:21,380 I know, right? 607 00:39:21,409 --> 00:39:25,686 some issues with the Steam uh social side, right? 608 00:39:25,686 --> 00:39:31,482 Like we've talked about that in the past, unsightly things that have happened. 609 00:39:31,482 --> 00:39:33,745 Let's talk about some pimping. 610 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,801 Nice. 611 00:39:37,287 --> 00:39:40,955 He has to show off all his uh street cred. 612 00:39:41,723 --> 00:39:45,660 It's so, it looks much cooler than my account, I will say that. 613 00:39:45,660 --> 00:39:48,041 How many hours of Bellatro is that? 614 00:39:48,041 --> 00:39:48,823 can't. 615 00:39:48,986 --> 00:39:50,702 162 hours. 616 00:39:51,869 --> 00:39:54,897 Man, come on, you gotta up the ante there. 617 00:39:56,288 --> 00:40:24,823 Aaaaa uh 618 00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:32,903 there are too many games where they're like a make sure it's privated and make sure no one can see and I'm just like you know what don't just private my entire account fuck it it's 619 00:40:32,903 --> 00:40:45,223 I don't I don't feel like doing Doing all that shit, so just I just private my entire account Fox is actually the only person that I know personally that has more games than me 620 00:40:45,223 --> 00:40:49,939 And it's it's probably one of the things that devastates me the most whenever I have to talk to him 621 00:40:49,939 --> 00:40:55,550 because I'm just reminded in the back of my head that like I used to be the one that had the most games and now 622 00:40:56,776 --> 00:40:57,382 Hehehehehe 623 00:40:57,382 --> 00:40:58,156 I don't. 624 00:41:00,433 --> 00:41:01,088 Nice. 625 00:41:01,088 --> 00:41:02,242 Nice. 626 00:41:02,670 --> 00:41:03,132 Man. 627 00:41:03,132 --> 00:41:03,352 a... 628 00:41:03,352 --> 00:41:04,593 It's cruel. 629 00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:06,194 It's unfair. 630 00:41:06,194 --> 00:41:09,435 I've worked so hard to buy games. 631 00:41:09,435 --> 00:41:10,797 So many games. 632 00:41:10,797 --> 00:41:14,299 And he just comes in with 10,000 games and now I'm just... 633 00:41:14,588 --> 00:41:17,681 You've invested thousands, hundreds of thousands. 634 00:41:18,017 --> 00:41:22,933 there used to be a bug where you couldn't load Fox's entire game library on your web browser. 635 00:41:22,933 --> 00:41:24,263 It would just crash. 636 00:41:24,404 --> 00:41:25,797 It's that crazy. 637 00:41:25,797 --> 00:41:27,260 load too many games. 638 00:41:27,898 --> 00:41:30,909 ah But yes, Steam. 639 00:41:30,909 --> 00:41:33,074 Hope nothing bad happens to Steam. 640 00:41:33,176 --> 00:41:33,649 I'd be- 641 00:41:33,649 --> 00:41:39,296 with this high tech is that from my understanding, it is not like required. 642 00:41:39,296 --> 00:41:41,498 It's a formal request that they come. 643 00:41:41,498 --> 00:41:49,709 um So we'll see if the CEOs, I couldn't see Gabe Newell doing this until they, unless they like really forced him. 644 00:41:49,709 --> 00:41:52,064 they'd have to rip him off his super yacht. 645 00:41:52,252 --> 00:42:01,583 But I think, and this is a call out, and we need to figure out how to get this to Gabe Newell, I think he needs to do the power play and go up there and be like, yeah, I'll come 646 00:42:01,583 --> 00:42:03,456 up, but I'm not gonna talk about what you want. 647 00:42:03,456 --> 00:42:05,710 I'm gonna be announcing Half-Life 3. 648 00:42:06,144 --> 00:42:07,159 AHAHAHAHA! 649 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:07,960 Damn! 650 00:42:08,061 --> 00:42:22,385 Now, if anyone was going to use a platform to announce a game, that would probably be the greatest announcement and way to make the announcement in video game history. 651 00:42:22,904 --> 00:42:24,956 Dude, that would like, probably... 652 00:42:24,956 --> 00:42:25,554 like... 653 00:42:25,554 --> 00:42:26,569 screw the game awards. 654 00:42:26,569 --> 00:42:29,581 How about going into the government? 655 00:42:30,126 --> 00:42:33,878 going to the government when they requested something completely different. 656 00:42:34,482 --> 00:42:37,433 who needs the game awards when you can go on C-SPAN? 657 00:42:38,018 --> 00:42:39,454 Life 3, bitches. 658 00:42:39,454 --> 00:42:41,229 Drop some likes and then leaves. 659 00:42:41,282 --> 00:42:43,260 I'd love that dude, that'd be- make my day. 660 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:46,755 band, the commentators are just questioning like, what is this? 661 00:42:46,936 --> 00:42:48,858 What's going on? 662 00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:56,101 And here we see Gabe Newell leaving, leaving the floor, just getting out of there. 663 00:42:56,616 --> 00:42:57,419 Ugh. 664 00:42:57,743 --> 00:43:04,260 gaben out drops mike and leaves dude that would be awesome gaben nual should do that man 665 00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:11,886 that, would personally buy ten thousand dollars worth of games on Steam just for that. 666 00:43:12,166 --> 00:43:12,966 Genuinely. 667 00:43:12,966 --> 00:43:14,551 the foxes, GameCop. 668 00:43:15,167 --> 00:43:16,327 Yo, no. 669 00:43:16,327 --> 00:43:17,727 Do you think 10,000? 670 00:43:17,727 --> 00:43:23,587 Dude, it took, my account is according to like SteamDB worth like 30 to 40,000. 671 00:43:23,587 --> 00:43:26,417 There's no way 10,000 is gonna bring me to five. 672 00:43:26,417 --> 00:43:29,293 like 10,000 really shitty dollar games. 673 00:43:29,526 --> 00:43:30,259 yeah. 674 00:43:30,673 --> 00:43:33,991 You think there's 10,000 of dollar games on Steam? 675 00:43:34,542 --> 00:43:35,724 Probably not. 676 00:43:36,088 --> 00:43:38,856 But there's probably a significant chunk. 677 00:43:39,822 --> 00:43:40,931 Anyways, man. 678 00:43:40,931 --> 00:43:47,651 I need to beat Fox right now is about 5,400 games. 679 00:43:48,622 --> 00:43:49,714 That's still a lot. 680 00:43:49,714 --> 00:43:52,215 He's got double the games, holy shit. 681 00:43:52,215 --> 00:43:55,135 told you, I told you he's the only person. 682 00:43:55,735 --> 00:44:02,377 Look, 4750 games is still more than a majority of the people on Steam. 683 00:44:02,377 --> 00:44:03,797 You guys are crazy. 684 00:44:03,797 --> 00:44:12,937 have 800 games and I've been, I've had steam since the beta client of Counter-Strike Source. 685 00:44:13,235 --> 00:44:17,739 I think a lot of the games that I have now are mostly from, you know, work. 686 00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:26,085 Like, before I did, I probably bought around 4,000 of the games on my account, but a lot of them have now come from, like, reviewing. 687 00:44:26,085 --> 00:44:33,110 Like, Sonic Racing, Dying Light the Beast, ToA, you know, Endless Legend. 688 00:44:33,411 --> 00:44:39,735 These all came from keys that I got for reviewing, so it's not like a... 689 00:44:40,548 --> 00:44:41,632 It's not like I... 690 00:44:41,632 --> 00:44:44,624 I honestly don't purchase many games now. 691 00:44:44,624 --> 00:44:45,366 Like it's been... 692 00:44:45,366 --> 00:44:47,171 It's very rare when I do. 693 00:44:47,684 --> 00:44:52,625 That's totally valid, you know what else Gabe could announce while he's on stage? 694 00:44:53,168 --> 00:44:54,934 The Steam Deck 2. 695 00:44:54,953 --> 00:44:55,753 Oh. 696 00:44:55,754 --> 00:44:57,497 Yeah, Steam Frame 2, I guess. 697 00:44:59,354 --> 00:45:00,183 Ah 698 00:45:00,183 --> 00:45:07,063 I'm still very, very adamant that the next Steam Deck is going to be by the end. 699 00:45:07,063 --> 00:45:09,483 I want to say next year. 700 00:45:10,463 --> 00:45:18,323 I really think they're going to be doing this where they wait a little bit and then have an APU, custom built APU with RDNA 4 cores. 701 00:45:18,363 --> 00:45:19,991 That's just what I'm waiting on. 702 00:45:21,657 --> 00:45:28,118 I've read someone leaked the Steam Deck 2 releasing in 2028. 703 00:45:28,298 --> 00:45:30,500 Now, I don't know if that's necessarily true. 704 00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:32,100 there's a lot of those leaks. 705 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:40,042 think the Steam Deck is getting to the point where it is having trouble running a lot of the AAA games that are releasing now. 706 00:45:40,042 --> 00:45:54,986 um And while it's still able to do some of them, like Dying Like the Beast is playable on the Steam Deck and upcoming games like Silent Hill F got uh rated Steam Deck playable. 707 00:45:55,066 --> 00:45:58,557 So it's still holding its own, but there are still 708 00:45:58,623 --> 00:46:12,230 many more games that are struggling on their like oblivion remastered I don't think it should have that verified badge like I don't know like it was is did it get changed I 709 00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:22,596 thought it released as verified no it's still verified yeah you got me for a second I was so sure it released verified I remember writing up that article and just thinking to 710 00:46:22,596 --> 00:46:28,359 myself how is this possible yeah but that that's what I mean um 711 00:46:28,359 --> 00:46:41,553 So, but now we've seen how some games would look with like the next generation of upscaling from like AMD and is a night and day difference enough to the point where I 712 00:46:41,553 --> 00:46:46,124 think that is the generational jump that Valve is waiting for. 713 00:46:46,505 --> 00:46:48,315 And I've been saying that for a while. 714 00:46:48,315 --> 00:46:53,725 I was saying RDNA 4 with FSR 4 is going to be that next generation jump. 715 00:46:53,725 --> 00:47:00,463 Now that I've seen first hand how FSR4 looks compared to FSR3, I'm even more sure. 716 00:47:00,706 --> 00:47:03,009 Yes, which brings us to our next topic. 717 00:47:03,451 --> 00:47:05,454 FSR 4 on the Steam Deck. 718 00:47:05,876 --> 00:47:11,566 It used to not be possible, but now it is thanks to what I believe you said it was an SDK leak. 719 00:47:11,615 --> 00:47:17,935 So AMD accidentally leaked their SDK for FSR. 720 00:47:17,935 --> 00:47:33,135 And in it included a version of FSR4 that is able to run on RDNA 2 and 3 GPUs and not just only RDNA 4. 721 00:47:34,535 --> 00:47:37,355 So yes, does run. 722 00:47:37,355 --> 00:47:38,775 However, 723 00:47:38,835 --> 00:47:47,178 There is one major drawback, which is it uses INT8 instead of uh FP8. 724 00:47:47,178 --> 00:47:57,561 And floating point 8 is uh basically what houses the AI accelerators, which is what allows this upscaler to run very effectively. 725 00:47:57,921 --> 00:48:00,682 However, we don't have that kind of access. 726 00:48:00,902 --> 00:48:04,003 So it does have more of a power draw. 727 00:48:04,831 --> 00:48:07,711 But like on older games, like I see you're playing it right now. 728 00:48:07,711 --> 00:48:08,871 It's my video. 729 00:48:08,871 --> 00:48:11,771 God, I did great on this video. 730 00:48:11,771 --> 00:48:14,651 You know, I'm not, I'm not big on like YouTube. 731 00:48:14,651 --> 00:48:20,691 Like I don't, I don't do a lot of YouTube videos, but man, man, I did great on this video. 732 00:48:21,291 --> 00:48:32,691 Um, but there is a larger power draw that comes from using, uh, FSR four instead of like FSR three or FSR two or XCSS. 733 00:48:33,171 --> 00:48:34,781 Um, but. 734 00:48:34,781 --> 00:48:37,894 The image quality is significant. 735 00:48:37,894 --> 00:48:42,371 Like it is a giant difference between FSR3 and 4. 736 00:48:42,371 --> 00:48:51,328 I haven't done much testing with X-ESS and I've heard that it is much closer to each other. 737 00:48:51,328 --> 00:48:58,775 But when you're comparing uh between FSR4 and FSR3, it is a night and day difference. 738 00:48:59,204 --> 00:49:00,996 So here's my question though. 739 00:49:01,174 --> 00:49:02,258 It is a leak, right? 740 00:49:02,258 --> 00:49:08,193 So is it necessarily legal to be using this, like, version? 741 00:49:08,193 --> 00:49:13,065 AMD and I wouldn't say it's illegal to be using it. 742 00:49:13,065 --> 00:49:16,847 It's just probably not going to be supported by AMD. 743 00:49:16,847 --> 00:49:25,970 um So I think this is more of an uncharted territory, gray area where... 744 00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:29,431 um 745 00:49:30,114 --> 00:49:30,905 I get what you're saying. 746 00:49:30,905 --> 00:49:33,880 So like we can look at the instructions right here. 747 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:40,450 So you want to just, I guess it looks like you just replaced the DLLs, that correct? 748 00:49:40,927 --> 00:49:43,827 So there are multiple ways to install it. 749 00:49:44,087 --> 00:49:52,798 So in this case, if you don't want to install anything extra, then you can just replace the DLLs. 750 00:49:52,798 --> 00:50:01,718 You to use the specific DLL that was leaked, that is only available, that has the FSR4 in it. 751 00:50:01,718 --> 00:50:03,610 And you have to replace. 752 00:50:03,610 --> 00:50:10,610 the files in there with the latest version of the FSR SDK and then replace one of the files with the leaked DLL. 753 00:50:11,090 --> 00:50:12,950 That's one way to do it. 754 00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:16,010 The other way is you can use the plugins. 755 00:50:16,010 --> 00:50:20,169 So there are two plugins that you can install and use. 756 00:50:20,310 --> 00:50:30,350 We have the Deki FrameGen plugin, which was made by XSX, Jason Derulo XX, I think. 757 00:50:31,404 --> 00:50:34,177 and that actually has FSR4 in it. 758 00:50:34,177 --> 00:50:41,022 So I believe it's now on the Dekki store, so you don't have to manually install it, but in the video I go over manually installing it. 759 00:50:41,703 --> 00:50:51,172 And uh that's the way I personally choose to use it, because there are some games where you can't do the DLL swap, like for whatever reason Silent Hill 2, I was not able to do 760 00:50:51,172 --> 00:50:52,292 the swap. 761 00:50:52,373 --> 00:50:58,258 So you're going to have to use OptiScaler, and that is automatically included in the Dekki FrameGen plug. 762 00:50:58,885 --> 00:51:02,513 And for the audience, can you explain what OptiScaler is? 763 00:51:02,938 --> 00:51:12,058 Opti scaler is basically a tool that can be used to inject new up scalers or force frame gen in games that don't usually support it. 764 00:51:12,058 --> 00:51:20,594 I'm sure there's more to it to opti-scaler, but that's mainly what I use it for so that is 765 00:51:20,701 --> 00:51:25,541 lossless upscaler or whatever it's called. 766 00:51:25,541 --> 00:51:27,541 I forget the name of the tool in Windows. 767 00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:31,260 was mostly for uh FSR frame gen. 768 00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:35,522 Lossless scaling is its own plugin, its own thing. 769 00:51:36,522 --> 00:51:45,007 But uh there is FSR uh frame gen that is included within OptiScaler, and that you can force. 770 00:51:45,007 --> 00:51:45,338 I see. 771 00:51:45,338 --> 00:51:47,231 Ooh, is this a... 772 00:51:47,231 --> 00:51:48,000 this is OptiScale. 773 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,134 Yeah, it looks... 774 00:51:50,708 --> 00:51:53,453 yeah, it looks kinda... 775 00:51:53,815 --> 00:52:05,040 you think that this will be like, it so that, let's just say hypothetically, if all games were supported, do you think it would help make it so that all the new games coming out 776 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,861 would be playable on the Steam Deck? 777 00:52:08,666 --> 00:52:11,137 If we had the... 778 00:52:11,678 --> 00:52:13,249 No, not necessarily. 779 00:52:13,249 --> 00:52:15,641 I think it would make a lot of games look a lot better. 780 00:52:15,641 --> 00:52:18,183 Like, you can see Hell is Us right there. 781 00:52:18,203 --> 00:52:22,786 You know, it's easier to see in the video, but it's a pretty monumental difference. 782 00:52:23,367 --> 00:52:32,374 Especially when moving around, and that's why I say I recommend the video, because the video shows the shimmering of FSR3 when you're moving around, and that's just completely 783 00:52:32,374 --> 00:52:34,115 gone with FSR4. 784 00:52:34,115 --> 00:52:36,236 uh I think... 785 00:52:36,787 --> 00:52:39,531 Holy shit, this is a huge, like, improvement. 786 00:52:39,833 --> 00:52:40,865 And yeah, you can see the... 787 00:52:40,865 --> 00:52:44,978 if you just look at the branches of the tree, like FSR3, you can barely see them. 788 00:52:44,978 --> 00:52:47,890 And then in 4, it's just beautiful. 789 00:52:47,890 --> 00:52:51,292 ah I would say. 790 00:52:53,438 --> 00:52:56,048 I would say it'll make a lot of games look better. 791 00:52:56,048 --> 00:53:04,535 And if we had the accelerators to reduce the overhead that's needed for the new upscaler, I think it would be better. 792 00:53:04,836 --> 00:53:12,000 But to make it more playable, probably not, because we still need to have the boost in power. 793 00:53:14,282 --> 00:53:23,102 we can only do so much with the power that we have um already. 794 00:53:23,102 --> 00:53:23,813 right. 795 00:53:23,813 --> 00:53:31,445 So it appears to use a little more VRAM and almost double, yeah. 796 00:53:31,445 --> 00:53:32,256 more overhead. 797 00:53:32,256 --> 00:53:34,218 Definitely needs more GPU power. 798 00:53:34,218 --> 00:53:38,243 uh Is it GPU? 799 00:53:38,243 --> 00:53:39,408 Yeah, I don't 800 00:53:39,408 --> 00:53:42,913 at the shadows here, it's a night and day difference. 801 00:53:43,896 --> 00:53:45,991 And the branches like you said, you can even... 802 00:53:45,991 --> 00:53:51,449 more apparent in motion, but it is uh a monumental difference. 803 00:53:51,449 --> 00:53:56,372 you can even see whatever this mountain is back here, whereas you couldn't before. 804 00:53:56,692 --> 00:53:59,794 It's good shit. 805 00:53:59,967 --> 00:54:00,513 Let's see. 806 00:54:00,513 --> 00:54:04,216 it really does need the, what is it? 807 00:54:04,216 --> 00:54:07,258 It really does need the accelerators though. 808 00:54:07,319 --> 00:54:16,967 For Spider-Man, it's a little bit harder to tell, but if you look at the windows in the back and the pedestrians on the ground in three, their blurs or just the details of the 809 00:54:16,967 --> 00:54:17,798 windows are gone. 810 00:54:17,798 --> 00:54:26,587 And then with four, you can actually make out the pedestrians and you can see the details on the windows further away. 811 00:54:26,587 --> 00:54:27,854 Man, that's crazy. 812 00:54:27,854 --> 00:54:36,934 There's some differences with Hogwarts legacy, but for whatever reason Hogwarts legacy for me just does not run well I got a lot of people in comments being like hey Why is your 813 00:54:36,934 --> 00:54:43,610 Hogwarts legacy so bad like why is it performing so poorly and I'm just that's how it's always performed for me. 814 00:54:43,691 --> 00:54:47,624 So Could be the area I'm in specifically 815 00:54:48,267 --> 00:54:54,475 I got to once you get to the town, the town is just not very playable with Steam Deck. 816 00:54:54,475 --> 00:54:57,638 You can still do it like my wife put in. 817 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:05,808 She beat it like four times, put in like 100 plus hours into the game on Steam Deck, but I feel like she had a different experience than me. 818 00:55:06,850 --> 00:55:08,081 It's weird. 819 00:55:08,444 --> 00:55:14,130 this also sounds like you're talking about Dragon's Dogma too, because that definitely had like a lot of issues. 820 00:55:14,571 --> 00:55:18,014 Like it was actually unplayable on Steam Deck, unfortunately. 821 00:55:18,701 --> 00:55:19,406 I know my- 822 00:55:19,406 --> 00:55:25,250 Cyberpunk, Cyberpunk is another one like Hell is Us where moving around really makes a difference. 823 00:55:25,381 --> 00:55:26,397 Hmm. 824 00:55:28,057 --> 00:55:29,167 I'm inclined to agree. 825 00:55:29,167 --> 00:55:30,941 uh 826 00:55:32,697 --> 00:55:35,384 I guess it's a different time of day that makes more sense. 827 00:55:37,876 --> 00:55:41,268 So yeah, in the end, it's definitely showing the... 828 00:55:41,268 --> 00:55:43,659 uh What is it? 829 00:55:43,659 --> 00:55:50,634 It's definitely showing the changes and the benefits of using FSR4, especially visually. 830 00:55:50,634 --> 00:56:02,881 But we still, for like, know, AAA games, we're still going to need the extra power from the newer tech, and we're still going to need those AI accelerators to really take 831 00:56:02,881 --> 00:56:05,442 advantage of FSR4 fully. 832 00:56:06,405 --> 00:56:11,885 And know, OptiScaler, it kind of looks like, damn it, was that? 833 00:56:11,885 --> 00:56:13,985 What was that that I was thinking of, James? 834 00:56:13,985 --> 00:56:15,365 I think you know what I'm talking about, right? 835 00:56:15,365 --> 00:56:20,185 It's like, it has an interface that kind of looks like, oh, reshade. 836 00:56:21,385 --> 00:56:22,905 It looks like reshade. 837 00:56:22,905 --> 00:56:31,285 wonder, it almost makes me wonder if this could be, you could use this to activate like some reshade shaders. 838 00:56:31,505 --> 00:56:36,381 Doesn't look like it, but maybe some sort of reshade. 839 00:56:37,192 --> 00:56:39,293 Opti-scaler combination app. 840 00:56:39,513 --> 00:56:40,713 I don't know. 841 00:56:40,873 --> 00:56:42,953 It does look very interesting though. 842 00:56:43,613 --> 00:56:46,733 Yeah, it does look very interesting though. 843 00:56:47,653 --> 00:56:58,953 I wouldn't have expected FSR 4 to be here, but thanks to the good graces of AMD, FSR 4 on the Steam Deck is now a thing. 844 00:56:59,853 --> 00:57:05,919 Of course, I feel like this won't be so necessary once the Steam Deck 2 comes out. 845 00:57:05,919 --> 00:57:12,139 I am curious though, should the Steam Deck 2 come out, what will you do with future reviews and whatnot? 846 00:57:12,139 --> 00:57:18,749 Will you incorporate the OG Steam Deck or will you at some point phase out Steam Deck 1 reviews? 847 00:57:18,772 --> 00:57:20,266 Yeah, I mean, I'd have to... 848 00:57:20,266 --> 00:57:20,917 play it on both. 849 00:57:20,917 --> 00:57:25,660 You gotta beat it on both to give us the real uh scoop. 850 00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:27,410 Kill me. 851 00:57:29,170 --> 00:57:32,090 Actually, idea. 852 00:57:33,170 --> 00:57:34,990 No, I can't. 853 00:57:34,990 --> 00:57:36,301 I would have to. 854 00:57:36,301 --> 00:57:38,092 I think for, uh... 855 00:57:40,473 --> 00:57:45,577 When that happens, think I'd have to find some way to make it work. 856 00:57:45,577 --> 00:57:47,659 folk kind of like what I do with the OLED. 857 00:57:47,659 --> 00:57:53,204 I focus more on the newest release and then I will, you know, do some light testing. 858 00:57:53,204 --> 00:57:59,589 I think I'd do more light testing with the Steam Deck and then full on testing with the Steam Deck too. 859 00:57:59,589 --> 00:58:03,111 Or if I can find some way to do them both, I think I would. 860 00:58:03,132 --> 00:58:09,507 Luckily, a lot of the games that we review have cloud save so I can just save in certain parts where I know. 861 00:58:09,573 --> 00:58:13,255 It's similar to how I review games. 862 00:58:13,255 --> 00:58:20,338 When I play through the games on the default settings and I find the spots that are the heaviest, and I optimize for those. 863 00:58:20,338 --> 00:58:26,840 Because if you can optimize for the heaviest spots, everything else is going to be covered. 864 00:58:28,181 --> 00:58:29,741 That's generally how I do it. 865 00:58:29,741 --> 00:58:38,805 I think it'd be the same kind of thing, but I'd play through it on the Steam Deck 2, find the heaviest spots, save there, and then test those spots on the... 866 00:58:38,807 --> 00:58:41,171 Steam Deck 1, essentially. 867 00:58:42,082 --> 00:58:43,404 I think that's a good idea. 868 00:58:44,389 --> 00:58:45,052 Good way to do it. 869 00:58:45,052 --> 00:58:49,896 expect you to phase out Steam Deck 1 reviews when the Steam Deck 3 comes out, 870 00:58:51,214 --> 00:58:52,419 Gotta do all three. 871 00:58:54,110 --> 00:58:55,133 You gotta do. 872 00:58:55,133 --> 00:59:02,397 we're, we're, we're switching, we're switching to the AI max plus three 95 handhelds only starting now. 873 00:59:03,464 --> 00:59:06,464 doesn't make for a very good name though. 874 00:59:06,464 --> 00:59:11,144 AI Max 395 plus HQ. 875 00:59:12,849 --> 00:59:14,512 When you say it like that, 876 00:59:15,218 --> 00:59:24,230 Would you cover the Deckard and like, let's say like the Fremont and Steam Deck 2 and all that, or are you just gonna cover Steam Deck 2? 877 00:59:24,527 --> 00:59:32,163 So this is actually something I got a uh question about recently. 878 00:59:32,163 --> 00:59:43,110 um As much as I would love to cover everything Valve, I do think the focus of the website is handhelds. 879 00:59:43,251 --> 00:59:47,234 So in the end, it would still have to be handheld related. 880 00:59:47,234 --> 00:59:51,331 If the PC console that 881 00:59:51,331 --> 00:59:56,865 Valve is making has some sort of Steam Deck integration, then I would absolutely cover it at that point. 882 00:59:56,865 --> 01:00:04,772 And same with like if they make another VR headset and that has some correlation or some like connection to the Steam Deck, then I would cover that. 883 01:00:04,772 --> 01:00:14,439 But if they are individual devices and they don't really relate to the Steam Deck directly, then I don't think I can justify covering it. 884 01:00:14,439 --> 01:00:16,480 Especially because for like Steam Deck HQ, 885 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,142 right, though? 886 01:00:17,142 --> 01:00:21,653 Like you'd just be like, okay, this is how it is, but you wouldn't really do anything much more than that. 887 01:00:21,653 --> 01:00:33,573 a review of it, but I see us doing something more like a review for another handheld over a review for a VR headset from Valve. 888 01:00:34,813 --> 01:00:43,973 We are Steam Deck HQ, but I see us more as handheld geared and focused on games with other handhelds being a side thing. 889 01:00:43,973 --> 01:00:47,077 We covered the GPD Win 5. 890 01:00:47,077 --> 01:00:52,400 when they announced when pre-orders were going live and their prices. 891 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,741 I do see uh us covering that kind of stuff. 892 01:00:55,741 --> 01:01:03,184 hopefully, uh at Tokyo Game Show, we do have an interview set up with IONEO. 893 01:01:03,184 --> 01:01:07,056 And I'm trying to get one set up with GPD and one netbook. 894 01:01:07,056 --> 01:01:08,897 Because I know one netbook will be there. 895 01:01:08,897 --> 01:01:10,168 GPD, don't know yet. 896 01:01:10,168 --> 01:01:11,728 But they were last year. 897 01:01:14,013 --> 01:01:17,785 Hopefully we can do that and I would love to talk to them a little bit more. 898 01:01:17,785 --> 01:01:29,610 I've got some questions for them, especially with the AI max plus 395 handheld, like the GPD Win 5 is really going to be breaking ground in terms of power with the handheld. 899 01:01:29,610 --> 01:01:40,584 So uh I do want to talk to INEO about that and what their response is going to be because they teased a 395 handheld, but the battery is actually included in the device. 900 01:01:40,584 --> 01:01:42,319 So I definitely am. 901 01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:46,530 curious about what they're going to do since the GPD Win 5 has an external battery. 902 01:01:46,530 --> 01:01:57,434 um But also just how the Android scene is going to look as well since Google is going to start uh not allowing side loading. 903 01:01:57,854 --> 01:02:07,917 So I'm very interested to see what they're going to say since INEO has been doing a lot into the uh Android space when it comes to handhelds. 904 01:02:08,988 --> 01:02:14,854 And so with that, yeah, you said you're going to TGS, right? 905 01:02:14,854 --> 01:02:18,216 So you should ask him about Bazite. 906 01:02:18,397 --> 01:02:21,830 Why don't you ship with a handheld with Bazite pre-installed? 907 01:02:22,615 --> 01:02:24,576 Is that something that they're allowed to do? 908 01:02:24,576 --> 01:02:26,489 Because that's the thing. 909 01:02:26,489 --> 01:02:38,480 The reason why when it comes to shipping handhelds with an OS and you're selling it with that OS, usually the people who make that OS get some cut of the profit. 910 01:02:38,681 --> 01:02:41,624 So I don't know. 911 01:02:41,624 --> 01:02:47,669 mean, I could ask them about that, but I haven't seen anything ship with Bazite pre-installed. 912 01:02:47,928 --> 01:02:49,660 Bazite would allow it. 913 01:02:49,742 --> 01:02:54,781 It's the type of operating system and the type of license they have. 914 01:02:54,781 --> 01:03:01,002 I'm pretty sure they'd allow it as long as they're not charging extra for that version. 915 01:03:01,773 --> 01:03:11,496 uh Steam Machine, not Steam Machine, the Emu Deck Machine, They were trying to make a sort of console that was gonna ship with Bazite, but then no one wanted one. 916 01:03:12,437 --> 01:03:20,690 Also, you could also ask them about official Steam OS support, because Lenovo is one, why not Ionia, right? 917 01:03:21,541 --> 01:03:30,807 uh I mean Lenovo did is shipping with steam os on one of their versions of their Handhelds yeah, but I'm sure valve is getting a cut from that, too 918 01:03:31,392 --> 01:03:34,112 I'm sure they are, but I'm sure... 919 01:03:34,112 --> 01:03:39,841 Or maybe Valve could subsidize it. 920 01:03:39,841 --> 01:03:40,822 their money back from... 921 01:03:40,822 --> 01:03:42,677 oh 922 01:03:42,677 --> 01:03:43,139 Yeah. 923 01:03:43,139 --> 01:03:47,592 see Valve subsidizing uh these devices, to be honest. 924 01:03:47,749 --> 01:03:53,516 Like they don't need to subsidize them, but I could see them doing it just to just get Steam out there more and more, you know? 925 01:03:53,516 --> 01:04:04,302 Like, instead of running a Windows OS device, you could get more Steam OS devices and, hey, we'd have more Steam OS users and, some anti-cheat developers would be interested in 926 01:04:04,302 --> 01:04:07,354 letting their games run Steam Deck, or Steam OS rather. 927 01:04:07,502 --> 01:04:08,805 They have the money to do it. 928 01:04:08,805 --> 01:04:11,540 They should at least use it instead of buying another yacht. 929 01:04:12,478 --> 01:04:15,413 Dude, what game does with his yacht? 930 01:04:16,677 --> 01:04:18,647 His like fourth or fifth yacht? 931 01:04:18,647 --> 01:04:22,412 no, he has like eight or nine I swear and then he bought the yacht company that makes them 932 01:04:22,412 --> 01:04:22,825 on. 933 01:04:22,825 --> 01:04:26,077 The guy's done so much, he deserves at least 12. 934 01:04:26,824 --> 01:04:32,753 Well, he also owns the yacht company, so he technically has all those other yachts. 935 01:04:33,215 --> 01:04:34,021 Alright. 936 01:04:34,021 --> 01:04:37,936 if you think about it, he needs to have more yachts to keep up appearances. 937 01:04:38,304 --> 01:04:47,404 Hey Gabe Newell, you can invite all of us and Gardner Bryant onto one of your yachts so we can host an episode and heck, heck maybe you can be a guest, you can be the second guest 938 01:04:47,404 --> 01:04:49,464 host, it'll be a five person episode. 939 01:04:49,516 --> 01:04:52,979 Heck, I'll even be, I'll even cook the whole time. 940 01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:55,980 Am 941 01:04:55,980 --> 01:04:56,380 included. 942 01:04:56,380 --> 01:05:01,432 I invited, I invited, I said all of us and Gardner Brian since he's not here right now. 943 01:05:01,637 --> 01:05:07,023 All right, well now if you guys ever do a yacht episode with Gabe and I have to be included in it. 944 01:05:08,145 --> 01:05:09,015 Yeah. 945 01:05:09,789 --> 01:05:16,692 Speaking of inclusion, Stop Killing Games has now given us an update a week ago. 946 01:05:16,692 --> 01:05:19,954 Actually, we could have talked about this last week, but we didn't. 947 01:05:19,954 --> 01:05:23,555 It wasn't up when we made the podcast episode. 948 01:05:23,695 --> 01:05:25,906 But essentially, there are some updates. 949 01:05:25,906 --> 01:05:33,620 First and foremost, 97 % of all signatures were in fact valid, which is incredibly high. 950 01:05:33,620 --> 01:05:34,680 uh 951 01:05:35,050 --> 01:05:46,770 I don't know how many are usually fraudulent in these European uh campaigns, but the fact that 97 % of signatures are in fact from real people tells you that there's a real demand 952 01:05:46,770 --> 01:05:49,935 for people uh wanting to stop killing games. 953 01:05:49,935 --> 01:05:54,735 Well, and those are from Europeans too, because that's another part of the criteria, right? 954 01:05:54,735 --> 01:06:01,335 Is that you have to be a European citizen to in order to sign it and have it be valid. 955 01:06:01,335 --> 01:06:02,895 I'm shocked. 956 01:06:02,895 --> 01:06:03,655 97. 957 01:06:03,895 --> 01:06:07,115 Honestly, when I saw those like, that's a little too high. 958 01:06:07,175 --> 01:06:08,768 But that's 959 01:06:08,768 --> 01:06:11,708 97 for 99 that's a beautiful thing. 960 01:06:11,708 --> 01:06:22,068 Also Ross the cursed farms we had him on a prior episode of off the console He's taking a step back and honestly, man, it's well deserved reward. 961 01:06:22,068 --> 01:06:24,568 It's a well deserved rest man. 962 01:06:24,568 --> 01:06:36,120 He's been he's been bustin ass trying to get this initiative off the up and then also combating misinformation from the likes of pirate software, which 963 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,094 is unfortunate that he doesn't see it the way we see it. 964 01:06:41,164 --> 01:06:45,125 Every good movement needs an enemy, so he had to be it. 965 01:06:45,125 --> 01:06:46,346 true, man. 966 01:06:46,508 --> 01:06:48,282 Imagine a video game without an enemy. 967 01:06:48,282 --> 01:06:50,275 Imagine Mario without Bowser. 968 01:06:50,402 --> 01:06:51,421 Exactly. 969 01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:55,993 thing I'll never get about the Stop Killing Games initiative. 970 01:06:55,993 --> 01:06:59,755 I just can't understand why anyone would be against it. 971 01:06:59,755 --> 01:07:02,787 I can understand why developers would be against it, or not even. 972 01:07:02,787 --> 01:07:05,559 I can understand why publishers would be against it. 973 01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:12,403 But I can't really understand why anyone outside of that would be against it. 974 01:07:13,184 --> 01:07:14,635 Because it's just preservation. 975 01:07:14,635 --> 01:07:19,668 It's just that games that have released aren't lost. 976 01:07:19,688 --> 01:07:25,069 I think it's just a fundamental misunderstanding from Pirate Software that he refuses to acknowledge. 977 01:07:25,770 --> 01:07:35,532 Because uh one of the biggest misconceptions with stock killing games is uh that, you can't kill games when they're not vi... 978 01:07:35,532 --> 01:07:40,174 you have to keep games up forever even when they're commercially non-viable. 979 01:07:40,174 --> 01:07:42,174 But that's not what we're asking for. 980 01:07:42,174 --> 01:07:43,575 Kill more games. 981 01:07:43,575 --> 01:07:45,235 Stop supporting games if need be. 982 01:07:45,235 --> 01:07:48,736 Just let us play the games and host the stuff ourselves. 983 01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:51,663 with our own equipment and money and stuff. 984 01:07:52,077 --> 01:07:52,937 Mm-hmm. 985 01:07:54,259 --> 01:07:57,549 No, and I think, I just can't see why anyone would be against that. 986 01:07:57,549 --> 01:08:02,546 It's like, to me, anyone who's against this is basically against things like emulation. 987 01:08:02,867 --> 01:08:10,803 And if without emulation, we would never be able to access, you know, hundreds of thousands of games that have been released in the past. 988 01:08:11,294 --> 01:08:14,589 I don't know why Pirate Software would be against it. 989 01:08:14,589 --> 01:08:22,450 Part of me thinks it's because he worked at Blizzard for so long and that he's got that AAA publisher mindset within him. 990 01:08:22,934 --> 01:08:24,881 Yeah, they corrupted him. 991 01:08:24,881 --> 01:08:27,989 He's got that blizzard brain freeze going on. 992 01:08:28,018 --> 01:08:31,429 I don't, I, but honestly man, I don't know why. 993 01:08:32,028 --> 01:08:41,361 And another thing too, but I think, but I think right now, I think it's because, right now I think it's because the internet hates him for disagreeing. 994 01:08:41,361 --> 01:08:46,556 And so he wants to, so I think he wants to be the bad guy and he's just spiting. 995 01:08:46,556 --> 01:08:46,957 Yeah. 996 01:08:46,957 --> 01:08:50,018 He's doubling down at just out of spite at this point. 997 01:08:50,538 --> 01:08:53,499 And he's lost a lot of, it doesn't make it better. 998 01:08:53,499 --> 01:08:55,028 No, no, no, no, no. 999 01:08:55,028 --> 01:09:03,531 He's lost a lot of subscribers and there's a million expose videos about the downfall of pirate software even though he still has over million subscribers. 1000 01:09:04,163 --> 01:09:06,296 He's probably not in a downfall. 1001 01:09:06,296 --> 01:09:10,301 He's probably hitting a rough patch, but I he's in a downfall. 1002 01:09:10,398 --> 01:09:16,853 Yeah, it kind of reminds me of all those videos that they made about Linus Tech Tips, the downfall of Linus Tech Tips. 1003 01:09:17,475 --> 01:09:23,680 When there was that whole beef with Gamers Nexus and Linus Tech Tips. 1004 01:09:25,646 --> 01:09:27,156 Drama is drama. 1005 01:09:28,131 --> 01:09:36,087 Yeah, you got to you got to take it with a grain of salt oftentimes because it's going to be overblown and then you have to you got to give it some time for it to blow over because 1006 01:09:36,087 --> 01:09:46,625 some things are just everyone makes mistakes and so if you go after every single one that makes a mistake you're going after yourself too we all make mistakes it depends on the how 1007 01:09:46,625 --> 01:09:47,658 big the mistake 1008 01:09:47,658 --> 01:09:48,449 my daughter right now. 1009 01:09:48,449 --> 01:09:49,931 Everybody poops. 1010 01:09:50,212 --> 01:09:51,773 Everybody makes mistakes. 1011 01:09:52,253 --> 01:09:57,314 Speaking of, it looks like Ross here submitted his own response. 1012 01:09:57,314 --> 01:10:04,276 says, far as me stepping back, it's more like I'm quote unquote uncalled for anything where me being involved would help a lot. 1013 01:10:04,276 --> 01:10:11,798 Most of what's happening right now is best left of people familiar with European political processes like mortis. 1014 01:10:11,998 --> 01:10:14,138 Mortis, I pronounce that right? 1015 01:10:15,059 --> 01:10:18,759 So I'm leaving most things to people that know what they're doing better. 1016 01:10:18,799 --> 01:10:21,560 They're doing better than I do to maximize our odds. 1017 01:10:22,602 --> 01:10:31,236 So I could probably see Ross being summoned to parliament to be a key witness in this case. 1018 01:10:31,236 --> 01:10:34,448 Like a key figure for saying why, yada yada yada. 1019 01:10:34,448 --> 01:10:37,079 But then, letting all the other people here. 1020 01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:45,163 We've got all the other people here taking care of all of the minutia of government. 1021 01:10:46,024 --> 01:10:46,563 I don't know. 1022 01:10:46,563 --> 01:10:59,614 he mentioned that he was gonna try to step down after it succeeded and everything like that and give it up to the more European officials and people that could really propel it. 1023 01:10:59,614 --> 01:11:00,944 I mean, yeah, it succeeded. 1024 01:11:00,944 --> 01:11:11,348 He got the attention, he got people rallying, he proved that there's a real appetite for wanting to play end-of-service, live-service games. 1025 01:11:11,348 --> 01:11:12,549 Sorry about that. 1026 01:11:13,609 --> 01:11:19,091 But, I mean, yeah, he deserves a rest, he's been bustin' ass. 1027 01:11:19,631 --> 01:11:20,952 It's been crazy, and... 1028 01:11:20,952 --> 01:11:21,453 uh 1029 01:11:21,453 --> 01:11:22,268 Yeah. 1030 01:11:23,733 --> 01:11:30,962 It might be too late for some games, to be honest, like Anthem is going end of life and we're never going to play Anthem again. 1031 01:11:31,909 --> 01:11:37,411 Which is a shame, Anthem got a bad rap, I don't think it was as bad a game as it was made out to be. 1032 01:11:37,886 --> 01:11:40,573 There were some issues, but I did like the fly. 1033 01:11:41,431 --> 01:11:44,328 Like I said, it's not a perfect game. 1034 01:11:44,328 --> 01:11:48,097 eh I think, yeah. 1035 01:11:49,342 --> 01:11:50,329 Yeah, I mean... 1036 01:11:50,329 --> 01:11:51,754 Let the community fix it. 1037 01:11:51,754 --> 01:11:54,168 I'm sure there's a community who would do it. 1038 01:11:54,168 --> 01:11:55,611 that would be awesome man. 1039 01:11:55,611 --> 01:12:00,922 They just let people like mod the games to not suck as much and then people will start playing that. 1040 01:12:00,922 --> 01:12:02,244 That would be awesome. 1041 01:12:02,260 --> 01:12:03,744 I would go back to play it. 1042 01:12:03,744 --> 01:12:04,772 Fuck yeah. 1043 01:12:04,772 --> 01:12:14,198 Aw, Too bad Anthem's gonna be dead before uh Stop Killing Games happens, but hopefully this'll prevent future games from being killed. 1044 01:12:14,619 --> 01:12:18,151 I'm sure you've heard the news about Splitgate 1 being preserved forever. 1045 01:12:18,151 --> 01:12:21,123 Good stuff. 1046 01:12:21,583 --> 01:12:28,928 And I mean, even though it's not law yet, the campaign's already bearing some fruit. 1047 01:12:31,156 --> 01:12:34,419 So, yeah, it seems that way. 1048 01:12:34,419 --> 01:12:36,100 It's bearing some fruit. 1049 01:12:36,681 --> 01:12:43,586 even like a Redfall, game that's been critically and commercially panned, has an offline mode now. 1050 01:12:44,227 --> 01:12:44,896 And also... 1051 01:12:44,896 --> 01:12:46,638 it, I really like Redfall actually. 1052 01:12:46,638 --> 01:12:47,601 uh 1053 01:12:47,601 --> 01:12:49,580 You you want to link up? 1054 01:12:51,195 --> 01:12:51,783 there you go. 1055 01:12:51,783 --> 01:12:52,421 Do it. 1056 01:12:52,421 --> 01:12:54,138 end this episode early. 1057 01:12:55,211 --> 01:12:56,100 Hahaha 1058 01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,280 2 also has this as well. 1059 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:07,256 So I reported earlier that, oh, you don't have all the characters, but you do have all the characters, just not all the cosmetics and shit for Multiverses offline. 1060 01:13:07,273 --> 01:13:15,393 after everything that happened with multiverses, I'm genuinely shocked that it basically died out so quickly. 1061 01:13:16,312 --> 01:13:19,644 Part of it is because there was no like consumer confidence. 1062 01:13:19,644 --> 01:13:22,946 Like remember multiverses was up, it had launched twice. 1063 01:13:22,946 --> 01:13:30,859 It like launched an open beta and then they concluded that open beta for like a couple years and then came back and people weren't as excited. 1064 01:13:31,597 --> 01:13:33,678 Yeah, they shouldn't have done that. 1065 01:13:33,879 --> 01:13:37,481 I think it was just a bad idea. 1066 01:13:37,537 --> 01:13:41,545 I guess it's just surprising seeing as how it was so... 1067 01:13:41,545 --> 01:13:47,557 There was a good chunk of excitement for it, especially when it was in its first open beta. 1068 01:13:47,557 --> 01:13:52,413 I don't know, it's just kind of shocking to me that they basically killed it. 1069 01:13:52,639 --> 01:13:57,154 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it is what it is, 1070 01:13:58,437 --> 01:13:59,918 I expected more. 1071 01:13:59,918 --> 01:14:01,319 love Super Smash Bros. 1072 01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:02,700 and Warner Bros. 1073 01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:06,823 has a fantastic slate of characters but in all honesty, Warner Bros. 1074 01:14:06,823 --> 01:14:10,125 when it comes to their games, they just don't make good decisions. 1075 01:14:10,322 --> 01:14:11,083 Warner Bros. 1076 01:14:11,083 --> 01:14:12,636 in general doesn't make good decisions. 1077 01:14:12,636 --> 01:14:13,538 Not just their games. 1078 01:14:13,538 --> 01:14:14,048 Have you seen... 1079 01:14:14,048 --> 01:14:14,379 have you... 1080 01:14:14,379 --> 01:14:19,007 like you've seen what's happened with DC like the past like 10 years. 1081 01:14:19,007 --> 01:14:22,522 It's insane what they've like done. 1082 01:14:22,637 --> 01:14:27,305 I mean they're trying to get it back with Guns DC, so I'm optimistic. 1083 01:14:27,305 --> 01:14:32,512 I haven't seen Superman yet, but you know, I like Guns movies. 1084 01:14:32,854 --> 01:14:35,287 I really like The Guardians of the Galaxy, so... 1085 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,303 Gardner loves, like, James Gunn Superman. 1086 01:14:39,984 --> 01:14:41,652 For a lot of great things about it, Yeah. 1087 01:14:41,652 --> 01:14:41,753 it. 1088 01:14:41,753 --> 01:14:46,059 I'd heard great things about Peacemaker as well. 1089 01:14:47,086 --> 01:14:48,357 Peacemaker, 1090 01:14:49,367 --> 01:14:50,382 You 1091 01:14:50,858 --> 01:14:52,297 Peacemaker's funny. 1092 01:14:52,843 --> 01:14:53,700 It is here. 1093 01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:54,631 things about it. 1094 01:14:54,631 --> 01:14:55,613 haven't seen it. 1095 01:14:55,613 --> 01:15:04,025 honestly, I don't do much with DC because, you know, I wasn't really a big fan of the movies before. 1096 01:15:04,025 --> 01:15:09,524 So I just, you know, I'll keep an open mind to going into it though. 1097 01:15:09,524 --> 01:15:10,344 Yeah. 1098 01:15:10,344 --> 01:15:18,241 changed that for me a lot like I thought super the new Superman was really good I am NOT a Superman fan in any way, but they actually humanized him a little bit which is what he 1099 01:15:18,241 --> 01:15:18,984 needed 1100 01:15:18,984 --> 01:15:29,688 Yeah, because remember the last time they tried doing Superman, they made him like, see, it was full of like Jesus allegories and how he was a like, they were like comparing him 1101 01:15:29,688 --> 01:15:34,674 to Jesus, not just that, though, but also the one with Henry Cavill. 1102 01:15:35,243 --> 01:15:36,691 No, the Jesus one. 1103 01:15:36,992 --> 01:15:37,932 Oh. 1104 01:15:38,692 --> 01:15:44,872 But like, there's also- but like, they also had- I don't know, he just seemed very emotionless and not very human. 1105 01:15:44,872 --> 01:15:48,032 Like, no- knock on Henry Cavill, because he's the goat. 1106 01:15:48,332 --> 01:15:51,952 But I don't think the Superman role was written very well. 1107 01:15:51,992 --> 01:15:53,286 By Zack Snyder. 1108 01:15:53,286 --> 01:15:58,311 He was, I think he was good for the role, but I agree, it just wasn't. 1109 01:15:58,772 --> 01:16:00,534 The writing wasn't there. 1110 01:16:00,534 --> 01:16:07,061 But I think Cavill, if he was still Superman-like with Gun, I think it would have worked too. 1111 01:16:07,232 --> 01:16:13,512 Man, if it was still Geralt of Rivia in the Netflix series, that'll... 1112 01:16:13,512 --> 01:16:14,712 Man. 1113 01:16:15,092 --> 01:16:16,339 No one I know won't... 1114 01:16:16,339 --> 01:16:25,375 feels like he got shafted because both he lost out on Superman and at least it seems like he lost out on Superman and the Witcher. 1115 01:16:25,538 --> 01:16:32,520 He had an opinion and I think he fought against writers, but the problem with the writers of like Witcher is that they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. 1116 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:33,027 Yeah, he... 1117 01:16:33,027 --> 01:16:36,446 Haven't they deviated from the Witcher pretty heavily? 1118 01:16:36,446 --> 01:16:42,386 Yeah, and he was trying to lo- he was- he was basically trying to lobby against, like, what they were changing. 1119 01:16:42,386 --> 01:16:43,566 and played the games. 1120 01:16:43,566 --> 01:16:45,894 He is, he was... 1121 01:16:46,793 --> 01:16:55,583 a full on gamer and I respect his opinion. 1122 01:16:55,583 --> 01:16:59,680 universe very well, probably much better than any of the writers, unfortunately. 1123 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,020 Yes. 1124 01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:02,840 That's... 1125 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,400 Yeah, he's still... 1126 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,640 Thankfully, he's still making his Amazon Warhammer series. 1127 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:19,832 mean, we didn't hear much about it, but the Secret Level episode was really good, and people really liked that one, even if some of the other episodes weren't super well-liked. 1128 01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:22,954 But like, yeah, people. 1129 01:17:22,954 --> 01:17:25,229 to seeing what Kevill's going to do. 1130 01:17:26,004 --> 01:17:28,747 Dude, hurry Henry Cavill. 1131 01:17:28,747 --> 01:17:29,668 It's crazy, man. 1132 01:17:29,668 --> 01:17:31,900 He does like one of the nerdiest things out there. 1133 01:17:31,900 --> 01:17:34,122 I think we talked about this with the Fox. 1134 01:17:34,122 --> 01:17:38,876 There was like a nerd tier list and I think Warhammer's like squarely at the top. 1135 01:17:38,944 --> 01:17:40,560 Yeah, that's right. 1136 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:41,132 Would you agree? 1137 01:17:41,132 --> 01:17:47,615 It's like Warhammer, then D &D, and then like anime in the video games. 1138 01:17:48,197 --> 01:17:50,682 Would anime be considered nerdy though? 1139 01:17:50,682 --> 01:17:53,008 You would consider anime as like a nerd thing? 1140 01:17:53,008 --> 01:17:54,715 certainly used to be nerdy. 1141 01:17:54,715 --> 01:17:55,728 Definitely a lot nerder. 1142 01:17:55,728 --> 01:17:57,681 It's lot more mainstream now, but like... 1143 01:17:57,681 --> 01:18:00,753 call I what's the difference between geek and nerd? 1144 01:18:00,753 --> 01:18:06,177 Because I don't know when I when I think of anime, I think more of a geek than a nerd. 1145 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:12,209 In this case, I I- I- I tend to use Nerd and Geek uh interchangeably. 1146 01:18:13,075 --> 01:18:21,470 they're kind of used like that, but the main distinctions are like a nerd is an intelligent, socially awkward, or introverted person focused on academic or a complex 1147 01:18:21,470 --> 01:18:31,325 intellectual pursuits, while a geek is an enthusiast obsessed with specific hobby or pop culture interest, often gathering facts and memorabilia related to it. 1148 01:18:31,325 --> 01:18:33,017 ah Yeah. 1149 01:18:33,017 --> 01:18:36,712 those definitions, anime would definitely be in the geek category. 1150 01:18:36,716 --> 01:18:37,224 Yeah. 1151 01:18:37,224 --> 01:18:41,846 Yeah, so I think, so here's the geek tier list. 1152 01:18:41,846 --> 01:18:44,447 At the top, it's Warhammer. 1153 01:18:44,667 --> 01:18:50,369 Next is like D &D or like tabletop role-playing games like Cyberpunk. 1154 01:18:51,450 --> 01:18:54,191 And next is anime. 1155 01:18:54,852 --> 01:18:56,432 And then below that is... 1156 01:18:57,434 --> 01:19:04,301 the world of anime is vast and the fans are a range between mild to ridiculous. 1157 01:19:05,448 --> 01:19:08,759 And then under anime is video games. 1158 01:19:09,445 --> 01:19:10,647 In my opinion. 1159 01:19:10,871 --> 01:19:11,256 Yeah. 1160 01:19:11,256 --> 01:19:11,547 that. 1161 01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:14,133 uh Have you guys watched The Simpsons before? 1162 01:19:14,251 --> 01:19:16,214 I don't know about that one. 1163 01:19:16,214 --> 01:19:19,017 I think that's a difficult one for me. 1164 01:19:19,017 --> 01:19:23,813 think video games might be above, just based on how widespread they are now. 1165 01:19:23,813 --> 01:19:28,348 Because I would consider mobile games as part of video games. 1166 01:19:28,489 --> 01:19:32,083 And I feel like there's more people who play video games than watch anime. 1167 01:19:32,106 --> 01:19:43,188 Well, my tier list is not based on how popular it is, but how geeky and niche and obscure and how deep into it you really have to be. 1168 01:19:44,270 --> 01:19:49,136 Like, you'd have to be super deep into some shit to Warhammer. 1169 01:19:49,136 --> 01:19:53,230 So, video games are a lot more mainstream than the others, which is why it's towards bot. 1170 01:19:53,647 --> 01:19:54,741 Fair enough. 1171 01:19:55,170 --> 01:19:57,100 In that case then I do agree. 1172 01:19:58,277 --> 01:19:59,748 Comics are some weird shit though. 1173 01:19:59,748 --> 01:20:06,834 I don't know where to put those because like superhero movies are very popular But like when you actually read the comics they get into some really weird shit 1174 01:20:06,975 --> 01:20:12,482 That's a hard one probably below anime but above games 1175 01:20:13,288 --> 01:20:13,926 Nah, that's a good one. 1176 01:20:13,926 --> 01:20:14,838 That's good assessment. 1177 01:20:14,838 --> 01:20:17,032 I think anime tends to get... 1178 01:20:17,078 --> 01:20:17,913 Yeah. 1179 01:20:17,913 --> 01:20:23,031 if there was like neck and neck I could I could probably see anime and comics being tied 1180 01:20:23,614 --> 01:20:29,457 Honestly, that's not a bad assertion because there are lot of animes that are uh mainstream. 1181 01:20:29,457 --> 01:20:30,748 They've got that mainstream appeal. 1182 01:20:30,748 --> 01:20:34,911 Like, know, obviously Dragon Ball Z, Jujutsu Kaisen, Naruto, all that. 1183 01:20:34,911 --> 01:20:39,493 And then there are some other ones that are very obscure or very not to Western tastes. 1184 01:20:39,493 --> 01:20:43,595 Like, uh my little sister can't possibly be this cute. 1185 01:20:43,595 --> 01:20:45,096 Real serious, by the way. 1186 01:20:45,379 --> 01:20:55,608 Yeah, no some of their names so my wife and I have been getting real into anime recently and we just we we are on like a binge we've got like a watch list of like Ten different 1187 01:20:55,608 --> 01:21:05,616 anime that we are planning to start we just finished one like we love these comedy anime and there was one we just watched that just completely fucked us up it's called a sobiasa 1188 01:21:05,616 --> 01:21:11,451 base and It is so ridiculously funny. 1189 01:21:11,511 --> 01:21:14,053 It's so stupid, but so 1190 01:21:15,902 --> 01:21:20,635 Man, I need to watch more anime. 1191 01:21:21,217 --> 01:21:25,950 been a little bit since I've watched an anime that, like, a new anime that's interested me. 1192 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,139 If for humor, Konosuba's my goat. 1193 01:21:29,483 --> 01:21:30,447 I like Konosuba. 1194 01:21:30,447 --> 01:21:32,498 Konosuba is so funny. 1195 01:21:33,218 --> 01:21:34,028 I can't wait. 1196 01:21:34,028 --> 01:21:35,128 I'm still I'm waiting. 1197 01:21:35,128 --> 01:21:36,808 Isn't season four coming this year? 1198 01:21:36,808 --> 01:21:38,479 I can't wait for it. 1199 01:21:39,420 --> 01:21:41,040 See, I would know. 1200 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,081 We watch that. 1201 01:21:42,081 --> 01:21:44,161 uh You like Konosuba. 1202 01:21:44,161 --> 01:21:46,562 Check out Asobi Asabase. 1203 01:21:46,642 --> 01:21:49,643 Seriously, it's it's it's similar to that. 1204 01:21:49,643 --> 01:21:57,057 It's a mini series and it's like little five, six minute episodes contained within like a twenty three minute episode. 1205 01:21:57,057 --> 01:22:04,383 It follows uh three girls in middle school, but it is just the most ridiculous and stupid thing. 1206 01:22:04,383 --> 01:22:06,824 It's just so good. 1207 01:22:07,792 --> 01:22:11,268 And also with anime, there's also some truly delicious garbage. 1208 01:22:11,268 --> 01:22:18,188 Like for example, uh domestic girlfriend is truly one of those. 1209 01:22:18,681 --> 01:22:20,566 domestic girlfriend? 1210 01:22:20,702 --> 01:22:23,436 Yeah, that's the name of the series. 1211 01:22:23,436 --> 01:22:27,361 Or Domestik no Kanojo is what it's called in Japan. 1212 01:22:28,704 --> 01:22:32,288 It's some truly delicious, like, garbage. 1213 01:22:33,641 --> 01:22:35,644 Oh man, that looks great. 1214 01:22:36,828 --> 01:22:37,930 I'm looking at right now. 1215 01:22:37,930 --> 01:22:38,912 I'm curious. 1216 01:22:38,912 --> 01:22:40,345 Is it, is it actually good? 1217 01:22:40,345 --> 01:22:41,697 Like, have you seen it? 1218 01:22:42,002 --> 01:22:48,003 No, it's- I've read it, it's terrible, but it's like a train wreck that I can't like move my eyes away from. 1219 01:22:48,003 --> 01:22:55,096 It's like one of those like- it's like one of those like bad movies that you like know it's bad, but you watch it because it's hilarious. 1220 01:22:56,207 --> 01:22:58,859 Well now now you've got me curious about it. 1221 01:22:58,859 --> 01:23:05,035 What what makes it so ridiculous and so train wreck such a train 1222 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:13,100 So it begins with our main character, his family is... 1223 01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:16,300 So essentially his dad is a single dad and he's getting remarried. 1224 01:23:16,300 --> 01:23:25,060 And then his two new sisters, one of them is his teacher that he has a crush on, but they can't do it because... 1225 01:23:25,060 --> 01:23:32,420 And then the other is a girl that he of just slept with at a party. 1226 01:23:32,954 --> 01:23:34,306 And they're both his sister. 1227 01:23:34,306 --> 01:23:37,507 They're both his sisters now and so, oh no, it's... 1228 01:23:37,549 --> 01:23:40,291 It's some... 1229 01:23:40,291 --> 01:23:41,633 It's some truly... 1230 01:23:41,633 --> 01:23:43,594 It's some truly, like... 1231 01:23:44,155 --> 01:23:45,527 Bad stuff. 1232 01:23:45,527 --> 01:23:49,840 Yeah, that one might be a little bit too weird for me. 1233 01:23:50,982 --> 01:23:57,057 I will say, we really enjoy the comedy anime. 1234 01:23:57,057 --> 01:24:00,130 That's kind of where we gravitate towards when we're watching together. 1235 01:24:00,130 --> 01:24:05,945 I do like a range of it, but Dandodan is one of our favorites right now. 1236 01:24:05,945 --> 01:24:09,086 And recently, the episode's been so good. 1237 01:24:09,086 --> 01:24:11,327 Yo have you watched Angel Beats before? 1238 01:24:11,765 --> 01:24:13,107 Angel Beats? 1239 01:24:14,011 --> 01:24:14,925 I don't think so. 1240 01:24:14,925 --> 01:24:16,377 I think you'd really like it too. 1241 01:24:16,377 --> 01:24:18,880 It leans more into the slapstick humor. 1242 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,362 It's made by the guys that made Clannad. 1243 01:24:23,016 --> 01:24:24,877 Yeah, but essentially it's a... 1244 01:24:25,297 --> 01:24:35,682 It basically takes place in the afterlife with a bunch of like kids that are going to like the high school in the afterlife and they're rebelling against God, but there's a lot of 1245 01:24:35,682 --> 01:24:38,143 like crazy like slapstick. 1246 01:24:38,404 --> 01:24:39,974 I think you'd really like it. 1247 01:24:40,689 --> 01:24:48,569 I literally have up our website where I'm these on our watch list. 1248 01:24:49,109 --> 01:24:51,709 I put Angel Beats on there. 1249 01:24:51,709 --> 01:24:54,189 Dan to Dan is really good though. 1250 01:24:54,189 --> 01:24:56,529 Definitely recommend it. 1251 01:24:57,489 --> 01:25:02,649 Especially the last few episodes have been especially funny. 1252 01:25:03,718 --> 01:25:05,572 I need to catch up. 1253 01:25:05,572 --> 01:25:08,136 I've been watching with my brother and he's been busy. 1254 01:25:08,588 --> 01:25:15,282 Yo, so speaking of catching up, it looks like Microsoft is catching up to the economy. 1255 01:25:16,677 --> 01:25:18,646 That was a really good segue. 1256 01:25:18,733 --> 01:25:20,376 Thank you, thank you. 1257 01:25:21,057 --> 01:25:24,931 Unfortunately, pricing has increased substantially. 1258 01:25:24,931 --> 01:25:28,166 Well, not substantially, but they're going up. 1259 01:25:28,166 --> 01:25:33,712 This is the second time Xbox prices have gone up, and this is only in US so far. 1260 01:25:33,794 --> 01:25:34,410 Yeah. 1261 01:25:34,410 --> 01:25:40,861 of course, because there's no other reason for the prices to go up only in the US other than terror. 1262 01:25:41,696 --> 01:25:49,892 So, I don't even remember what the Xbox Series S launched at, but it's $400 now for the lowest end Xbox. 1263 01:25:49,892 --> 01:25:50,846 like 350? 1264 01:25:50,846 --> 01:25:55,266 launch that 350 I thought launched it like 300 I don't remember 1265 01:25:55,342 --> 01:25:56,662 it $2.99? 1266 01:25:57,941 --> 01:25:58,862 I don't know. 1267 01:25:58,862 --> 01:26:00,156 I thought it was $3.49. 1268 01:26:00,156 --> 01:26:04,080 Xbox Series S launch MSRP. 1269 01:26:06,621 --> 01:26:10,125 It launched at $299, according to Wikipedia. 1270 01:26:10,125 --> 01:26:11,058 a rock. 1271 01:26:11,285 --> 01:26:12,305 Damn. 1272 01:26:12,367 --> 01:26:17,979 It went up a hundred fucking dollars throughout this entire generation. 1273 01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:20,410 that the prices have started going up. 1274 01:26:21,136 --> 01:26:21,638 Yes. 1275 01:26:21,638 --> 01:26:27,259 never, I don't think it's ever happened to where we've had consoles go up before, up until this generation. 1276 01:26:27,259 --> 01:26:30,813 Yeah, like, it's gone up twice in one year. 1277 01:26:30,914 --> 01:26:33,658 Yeah, yeah, PlayStation went up like a few weeks. 1278 01:26:33,658 --> 01:26:37,423 uh The Switch One went up in price too. 1279 01:26:38,285 --> 01:26:40,288 Not even the Switch Two, the Switch One. 1280 01:26:40,288 --> 01:26:41,720 How does that make any s- 1281 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:42,558 We'll see. 1282 01:26:42,558 --> 01:26:43,982 I don't know. 1283 01:26:43,982 --> 01:26:50,451 was hearing that weren't they importing a lot of Switch 2s before the tariffs so that they didn't have to increase the price? 1284 01:26:50,451 --> 01:26:53,031 But obviously that's going to run out. 1285 01:26:53,031 --> 01:26:56,104 manufactured in Vietnam, I believe, yes. 1286 01:26:56,171 --> 01:27:07,141 That's why you don't see a lot of the price changes up until now is because they had a huge inventory and we're hoping that probably the administration would kill the tariffs 1287 01:27:07,141 --> 01:27:15,108 because they're not, tariffs are not a good policy ah and they're still not dead. 1288 01:27:15,108 --> 01:27:18,051 So we're gonna see, I think we're gonna see more price hikes. 1289 01:27:18,051 --> 01:27:23,273 If they keep on with the Xbox or with these tariffs, 1290 01:27:23,273 --> 01:27:26,397 We'll get more price hikes for the Xbox, I'm pretty sure. 1291 01:27:26,397 --> 01:27:30,257 So who's paying $800 for an Xbox Series X? 1292 01:27:30,257 --> 01:27:32,957 That's fuckin' PC gaming. 1293 01:27:33,397 --> 01:27:37,597 At that point, you know, add another 400, 500? 1294 01:27:38,697 --> 01:27:41,797 Shit, man, you get yourself a gaming PC that'll last you... 1295 01:27:41,797 --> 01:27:46,177 Cause like, we're like, reaching towards the tail end of this generation too, aren't we not? 1296 01:27:46,805 --> 01:27:47,605 Yeah. 1297 01:27:47,749 --> 01:27:51,042 It's been like five years since the consoles launched, so like... 1298 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,278 I guess maybe two more years left. 1299 01:27:53,278 --> 01:27:58,997 Yeah, so this is like the tail end of the console generation, and they're charging $800 for this shit. 1300 01:27:59,852 --> 01:28:01,305 Yeah, it's a little bit. 1301 01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:02,670 Yeah. 1302 01:28:02,670 --> 01:28:04,912 It's a little secret campaign they're doing. 1303 01:28:04,912 --> 01:28:09,415 They're gonna charge $1,099 for the next Xbox. 1304 01:28:10,577 --> 01:28:12,682 I don't know, I'm just messing, but still. 1305 01:28:12,682 --> 01:28:14,902 I would die, that's not worth it. 1306 01:28:15,181 --> 01:28:16,361 Definitely not worth it, dude. 1307 01:28:16,361 --> 01:28:17,265 Just go to PC. 1308 01:28:17,265 --> 01:28:18,892 that now, but we'll see. 1309 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:20,822 But yeah, I hear you on that. 1310 01:28:20,822 --> 01:28:27,082 honestly, at this point, I don't know if Xbox is really going to focus on consoles as much anymore. 1311 01:28:27,082 --> 01:28:33,532 Like they're moving so far away that I think they're mostly just going into software at this point. 1312 01:28:33,543 --> 01:28:39,357 Well, if you recall, uh in a recent marketing campaign that Xbox did, everything's an Xbox now. 1313 01:28:39,938 --> 01:28:42,220 You see that PC that you're podcasting from? 1314 01:28:42,220 --> 01:28:43,541 It's an Xbox. 1315 01:28:43,552 --> 01:28:44,845 Now shit. 1316 01:28:45,852 --> 01:28:46,714 my god. 1317 01:28:46,831 --> 01:28:48,117 that Xbox? 1318 01:28:48,117 --> 01:28:50,202 I guess that's also an Xbox. 1319 01:28:50,202 --> 01:28:51,526 on the Steam Deck yet. 1320 01:28:51,637 --> 01:28:52,579 me ask you guys this. 1321 01:28:52,579 --> 01:28:55,264 Is my Xbox Series X an Xbox? 1322 01:28:56,457 --> 01:28:57,259 Soon it won't be. 1323 01:28:57,259 --> 01:28:58,824 would imagine so. 1324 01:28:59,113 --> 01:29:00,595 I would imagine so. 1325 01:29:00,595 --> 01:29:01,129 logic. 1326 01:29:01,129 --> 01:29:13,963 ah No, think honestly, I think it's really the smartest decision they could have made the Xbox as a hardware was definitely nowhere near uh PlayStation or switch levels of sales so 1327 01:29:13,963 --> 01:29:24,196 I think them switching more to software and focusing less on exclusives and just opening up more I think that was an extremely smart idea and we now we've seen the ripple effects 1328 01:29:24,196 --> 01:29:29,545 like PlayStation is doing the same thing now You know and they're starting to focus more on 1329 01:29:29,545 --> 01:29:40,892 uh Multi-platform releases and they still do some exclusives like ghosts of yote is going to be an exclusive to PlayStation But I think it's going to come to PC and possibly Xbox 1330 01:29:40,892 --> 01:29:42,883 sooner than it would have before 1331 01:29:44,196 --> 01:29:45,418 Hmm. 1332 01:29:45,532 --> 01:29:52,094 just don't, think there's no such thing as unlimited growth in uh like a very single category. 1333 01:29:52,315 --> 01:30:03,000 And I think we're starting to see that kind of happen with like, um with the economy with a lot of these big companies are starting to hit like their walls. 1334 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,366 ah I just don't see PlayStation hardware being able to be. 1335 01:30:07,366 --> 01:30:16,504 grow that much more so they have to expand out their cells in order to get those year over year growth um in their revenue. 1336 01:30:16,504 --> 01:30:23,648 You know, it's funny that you mentioned that because someone else actually mentioned this in this article right here by the game business. 1337 01:30:24,028 --> 01:30:27,850 And so, you know, this is a little interview that they did. 1338 01:30:27,850 --> 01:30:29,791 It's an hour long podcast. 1339 01:30:29,791 --> 01:30:33,073 I haven't listened to it, but I've also read some parts of the article. 1340 01:30:33,133 --> 01:30:43,498 One thing that really stick and so, you know, there's a lot of things that they cover, such as, for example, how Capcom president, Tsujimoto Haruhito, Haruhiro, yeah, an 1341 01:30:43,498 --> 01:30:45,019 interview with Nick Kay. 1342 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,486 They were talking about how 1343 01:30:46,486 --> 01:30:51,781 The high prices of the PS5 was impacting their ability to sell Monster Hunter Wilds, which... 1344 01:30:52,242 --> 01:31:01,182 I mean, guess that's technically true, but at the same time though, Monster Hunter Wilds has an insane requirement for PC that you can't really run on most PCs, right? 1345 01:31:01,182 --> 01:31:04,877 Like, you definitely can't do it on a Steam Deck, that's for sure, right? 1346 01:31:04,877 --> 01:31:06,969 No, definitely not on a Steam Deck. 1347 01:31:06,969 --> 01:31:11,222 Yeah, it does have higher requirements. 1348 01:31:12,004 --> 01:31:13,600 It's bit tougher than that. 1349 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:24,348 heard there are some issues with people even running on a 5090, which is the cream of the crop gaming GPU, and if a game has issues running there... 1350 01:31:25,018 --> 01:31:27,999 and just reminding me of Borderlands 4. 1351 01:31:29,838 --> 01:31:31,652 We'll get to them later. 1352 01:31:31,652 --> 01:31:38,974 yeah, so also what's interesting is the average age of console buyers is going up. 1353 01:31:40,813 --> 01:31:48,722 like the average console, like it's going towards people that are older and also more affluent as well, uh which is one thing they mentioned. 1354 01:31:48,722 --> 01:31:57,481 uh Which is interesting though, because the console market has always been sort of a traditionally younger market, uh if I recall. 1355 01:31:57,737 --> 01:31:59,758 Well, it's becoming more expensive. 1356 01:32:00,279 --> 01:32:04,502 And because of that, people need more time and more money to buy it. 1357 01:32:04,502 --> 01:32:08,155 So it kind of makes sense, especially in this economy. 1358 01:32:10,283 --> 01:32:17,362 and Z are big time, I think, in the mobile, phones and all that. 1359 01:32:17,362 --> 01:32:19,766 I think the data kind of shows that. 1360 01:32:19,846 --> 01:32:22,742 But yeah, it's also more expensive. 1361 01:32:22,742 --> 01:32:28,289 Like everyone kind of, like you can focus on a phone and like, yeah, everyone kind of needs a phone nowadays so they can get a phone that they can play on. 1362 01:32:28,289 --> 01:32:33,610 And that means they don't need a TV, they don't need a console, they're able to. 1363 01:32:34,103 --> 01:32:37,014 survive with how much cost of living is going up. 1364 01:32:37,014 --> 01:32:39,801 So I think that Kate. 1365 01:32:39,801 --> 01:32:46,059 also have other things competing for time too, such as, for example, Roblox and Fortnite on mobile. 1366 01:32:47,168 --> 01:32:48,089 You 1367 01:32:48,689 --> 01:32:50,588 I barely play on my Steam Deck now. 1368 01:32:50,588 --> 01:32:53,657 I just play Roblox on my phone. 1369 01:32:54,552 --> 01:33:03,824 Damn, there used to be a time where you could play Roblox on your Steam Deck, but you know, they took away that ability because too many cheaters on Roblox apparently. 1370 01:33:03,824 --> 01:33:11,026 I like how that was their priority too, because I'm like, dude, you guys have a pedophilia issue and you're focusing on taking it away from Steam Deck. 1371 01:33:11,026 --> 01:33:13,755 oh 1372 01:33:13,755 --> 01:33:15,551 obviously it's those damn cheaters. 1373 01:33:15,551 --> 01:33:17,849 That's what's making Roblox so bad. 1374 01:33:17,849 --> 01:33:19,131 4Kiltschids. 1375 01:33:19,302 --> 01:33:26,492 to be definitely not the pedophiles that abuse roblox to get details and interact with young kids. 1376 01:33:26,531 --> 01:33:31,669 You gotta save the YouTube self-censored lingo, the PDF file. 1377 01:33:32,508 --> 01:33:33,358 my bad. 1378 01:33:33,358 --> 01:33:33,732 Can we? 1379 01:33:33,732 --> 01:33:37,028 I don't think we got censored last time, I don't think it dinged us, but... 1380 01:33:37,125 --> 01:33:40,098 God, you know, that really pisses me off that like... 1381 01:33:40,098 --> 01:33:52,660 Alright, so I've seen some documentaries on YouTube talking about stuff like this and one of the things they like to say is instead of saying suicide, they say unalive themselves. 1382 01:33:52,820 --> 01:33:56,404 And instead of saying pedophile, they say suicide. 1383 01:33:56,404 --> 01:33:59,907 not, sorry, instead of saying pedophile, they say PDF file. 1384 01:34:00,133 --> 01:34:01,724 Okay, here's the thing. 1385 01:34:01,724 --> 01:34:03,034 When... 1386 01:34:04,635 --> 01:34:09,577 I just don't understand why it's become that censored. 1387 01:34:09,697 --> 01:34:15,599 Like, what if someone is making like actual educational content and someone is actually a pedophile? 1388 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,001 To me it just sounds so stupid to say PDF file. 1389 01:34:19,512 --> 01:34:25,997 Dude, there's just a level of unseriousness that comes with just using those terms, like seriously. 1390 01:34:27,519 --> 01:34:28,346 On a live? 1391 01:34:28,346 --> 01:34:30,628 not gonna lie, it makes me laugh every time. 1392 01:34:31,851 --> 01:34:33,251 Which is horrible. 1393 01:34:33,606 --> 01:34:38,207 I know these are very like, what's the word? 1394 01:34:39,108 --> 01:34:39,538 It did. 1395 01:34:39,538 --> 01:34:41,378 Tik TOK is a big part of it for sure. 1396 01:34:41,378 --> 01:34:46,350 Um, these are very serious, serious topics and serious conversations. 1397 01:34:46,350 --> 01:34:47,730 Absolutely. 1398 01:34:47,730 --> 01:34:59,463 And they should be taken seriously if you're going to be talking about them, but to censor it the way that they do makes it feel like they one don't take it seriously. 1399 01:34:59,559 --> 01:35:03,414 Like the ones who are enforcing censorship like that. 1400 01:35:03,414 --> 01:35:17,513 They don't take it seriously and it's just, it just ruins the, just not ruins, but it lessens the impact of how bad it actually is. 1401 01:35:17,668 --> 01:35:21,148 Yeah, it makes it seem so juvenile, too. 1402 01:35:21,628 --> 01:35:26,428 Like, that's like the kind of shit you would say, like, instead of saying, you know, fuck, you would say, well, F you, like, right? 1403 01:35:26,428 --> 01:35:28,608 That's like, that's something a kid would do. 1404 01:35:29,048 --> 01:35:33,116 Like, when they want to, like, get around, they want to say the word, but they can't say it. 1405 01:35:34,150 --> 01:35:36,193 Well, or if you live in Utah. 1406 01:35:36,193 --> 01:35:36,952 or... 1407 01:35:36,952 --> 01:35:37,735 man. 1408 01:35:39,203 --> 01:35:43,265 Uh, yeah, it's an advertising thing. 1409 01:35:43,265 --> 01:35:45,556 At the end of the day, they're trying to placate to advertise. 1410 01:35:45,556 --> 01:35:48,125 Advertisers probably don't even know the shit they're talking about. 1411 01:35:48,125 --> 01:35:50,369 They're like, well, can I have swearing? 1412 01:35:50,369 --> 01:35:52,780 We can't, you can't say, why would you say pedophile? 1413 01:35:52,780 --> 01:35:56,112 Like a pedophile is not going to say pedophile. 1414 01:35:56,112 --> 01:36:00,414 Like the only people that are going to say PDF file or whatever high tech to placate you. 1415 01:36:00,414 --> 01:36:04,996 Uh, it, I'm just messing with you. 1416 01:36:05,097 --> 01:36:06,777 I'm just messing with you. 1417 01:36:06,918 --> 01:36:08,038 It is. 1418 01:36:08,658 --> 01:36:13,518 It's be used almost always in education or people that are gonna be shitting on it. 1419 01:36:13,518 --> 01:36:16,638 So it's like Stop, I get it. 1420 01:36:16,638 --> 01:36:36,338 Like I don't mind a little censorship in the sense of like You know, yeah inciting violence and stuff like that, but geez I Don't know It it's it's advertisers and I have to 1421 01:36:36,338 --> 01:36:38,898 say this and it goes a little off topic but 1422 01:36:38,898 --> 01:36:42,038 Did you hear what fridge companies are doing now? 1423 01:36:42,038 --> 01:36:46,798 Because they're running out of ways to make money with fridges. 1424 01:36:48,438 --> 01:36:54,318 Samsung, I think, is now on their 1800 and plus fridges are going to have advertisements of it. 1425 01:36:54,318 --> 01:36:57,478 So like your milk's low, bam, ad. 1426 01:36:58,178 --> 01:37:00,498 I'm assuming that's how it's going to go. 1427 01:37:00,978 --> 01:37:01,802 So. 1428 01:37:02,788 --> 01:37:04,993 buy an old refrigerator if they're still good. 1429 01:37:04,993 --> 01:37:06,374 That's just my... 1430 01:37:06,456 --> 01:37:12,228 It's cheaper and it's now better because it doesn't bombard you with ads. 1431 01:37:12,228 --> 01:37:14,280 just works. 1432 01:37:15,042 --> 01:37:24,465 If they can give me a trailer while I'm looking through my food, or, you know, looking through the fridge for food, if they can give me a trailer for, the next video game, 1433 01:37:24,465 --> 01:37:24,855 maybe. 1434 01:37:24,855 --> 01:37:26,387 If it's, really targeted. 1435 01:37:26,387 --> 01:37:29,200 And it's still, you know, you know it's gonna be abused. 1436 01:37:29,422 --> 01:37:30,192 Ugh. 1437 01:37:30,972 --> 01:37:36,547 you might as well just like cut, like open up the refrigerator then cut off the speaker wires. 1438 01:37:38,685 --> 01:37:40,452 That's what you have to do. 1439 01:37:40,611 --> 01:37:41,993 lessen the impact. 1440 01:37:43,226 --> 01:37:46,822 dude, hacking with open source fridge software. 1441 01:37:46,822 --> 01:37:50,268 uh 1442 01:37:50,382 --> 01:37:53,965 Open open source fridge open source truck. 1443 01:37:53,965 --> 01:37:56,647 I thought open source was mostly just software. 1444 01:37:56,647 --> 01:38:00,029 Now it's like, you can build a truck that's open source. 1445 01:38:01,532 --> 01:38:02,472 Some of it could be hope. 1446 01:38:02,472 --> 01:38:03,336 uh 1447 01:38:03,336 --> 01:38:04,601 confusing for me. 1448 01:38:04,601 --> 01:38:06,890 Definitely, it's definitely more of the software. 1449 01:38:06,890 --> 01:38:18,620 more software, hardware's a lot harder, but it usually means it's not like uh a patent or you're allowed to uh affect the build of the patent. 1450 01:38:18,620 --> 01:38:30,409 it's a good thing that hardware is getting more that way, because then it allows for like rights to repair and some other things that are important for owners of products. 1451 01:38:31,236 --> 01:38:33,456 So here are some other things this article mentions too. 1452 01:38:33,456 --> 01:38:37,436 For example, Fortnite creators will sell items in December. 1453 01:38:38,116 --> 01:38:40,507 They'll be able to sell in-game items in December. 1454 01:38:40,507 --> 01:38:46,556 Right, that's cause for- that's cause you can sell items and roblox too that doesn't- man 1455 01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:52,003 That's gonna be a new class in the new education department that the administration's coming out. 1456 01:38:52,003 --> 01:38:57,569 sell in-game items is it similar to like Counter-Strike where people can resell like in-game skins? 1457 01:38:57,714 --> 01:39:07,640 No, no, no, like you can make like in Roblox, you can make like a custom like item, like a hair, and then you can sell it to other people. 1458 01:39:08,483 --> 01:39:12,383 like there's all sorts of different things, mod, essentially just mods. 1459 01:39:12,645 --> 01:39:13,657 Paid mods. 1460 01:39:13,657 --> 01:39:14,240 Got it. 1461 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:14,871 Lovely. 1462 01:39:14,871 --> 01:39:16,807 My favorite. 1463 01:39:17,311 --> 01:39:17,763 Great. 1464 01:39:17,763 --> 01:39:19,245 not against paid mods, by the way. 1465 01:39:19,245 --> 01:39:21,052 I actually really was for that. 1466 01:39:21,052 --> 01:39:23,263 I was probably one of only gamers for paid mods. 1467 01:39:23,263 --> 01:39:24,164 just... 1468 01:39:24,164 --> 01:39:25,726 It needs to be regulated. 1469 01:39:26,460 --> 01:39:28,301 I guess I would agree with you there. 1470 01:39:28,301 --> 01:39:37,941 I'm usually in the camp of no paid mods, but at the same time, there are some mods that deserve to get money for it because of how much work they put in. 1471 01:39:38,061 --> 01:39:39,730 So, yeah. 1472 01:39:39,730 --> 01:39:45,673 and if someone wants to go out of their way to make their mod even better and I'd pay for it, go for it. 1473 01:39:45,803 --> 01:39:47,375 No, I think that's fair. 1474 01:39:47,375 --> 01:39:55,972 There are mods that I'm like, you know, that really do go over and above or add a ton of content, deserve the money. 1475 01:39:55,972 --> 01:40:08,453 with some mods deserving money more than the actual developers do, like there are mods for like Skyrim that I would say deserve more money than Bethesda does. 1476 01:40:08,830 --> 01:40:10,150 I agree with that. 1477 01:40:10,150 --> 01:40:22,394 At the end of the day, complete conversions of games or making, let's say, the old Morrowind in uh the newer version of Skyrim's engine or something like that. 1478 01:40:22,914 --> 01:40:24,194 Yeah, stuff like that. 1479 01:40:24,194 --> 01:40:29,176 I would pay for stuff like that because you know how much time that takes to make? 1480 01:40:29,176 --> 01:40:30,916 That's a full-time job. 1481 01:40:31,196 --> 01:40:37,178 And so I'd rather than be comfortable and do it because they're all so passionate about 1482 01:40:38,514 --> 01:40:50,177 I do agree with that, but then when it comes to paid mods, do you think that it should all go to the developers or should it be something more intersplicet with the actual game 1483 01:40:50,177 --> 01:40:55,952 itself and then like, let's say Sky Oblivion for instance, and then Bethesda would take a cut. 1484 01:40:55,952 --> 01:40:59,612 like with how Bethesda originally wanted to do paid mods? 1485 01:41:00,232 --> 01:41:07,852 I think it should all go to the developer of the mods. 1486 01:41:08,132 --> 01:41:09,420 None of it should- 1487 01:41:09,846 --> 01:41:11,066 controversial. 1488 01:41:11,506 --> 01:41:22,486 90 % should go to the modders, 10 % should go into the transaction, into the devs or the platform, and that's including Steam. 1489 01:41:22,743 --> 01:41:25,075 I don't think that's a controversial take. 1490 01:41:25,075 --> 01:41:37,783 As much as I do believe that a majority of should go to the mod developers, I also think that it wouldn't be possible without the hard work that developers have put into the game. 1491 01:41:38,444 --> 01:41:44,868 Bethesda, for instance, they made a game that they've basically repackaged 10, 11 times. 1492 01:41:44,868 --> 01:41:52,133 But it's still like these mods would not be possible without the work that they put in to make the base. 1493 01:41:52,500 --> 01:42:03,240 I would want a mod manager, and then so that 10 % would go into also making sure the mod manager is up to date, making sure that the developers can mod the game. 1494 01:42:03,241 --> 01:42:04,101 Yep. 1495 01:42:04,102 --> 01:42:04,525 Yep. 1496 01:42:04,525 --> 01:42:05,756 100%. 1497 01:42:05,756 --> 01:42:16,166 Yes, uh Valve, think if Valve is involved, think Valve would get a cut to one for, and that's a lot of money though that comes out of these. 1498 01:42:16,166 --> 01:42:20,409 my take, I've said this about Valve and Steam many times. 1499 01:42:20,650 --> 01:42:28,798 Compare Steam as a DRM uh to any other storefront. 1500 01:42:28,798 --> 01:42:33,782 There is none that can match the features that Steam has. 1501 01:42:33,782 --> 01:42:36,444 It eclipsed. 1502 01:42:36,865 --> 01:42:41,589 And if they need to take a little bit extra to... 1503 01:42:41,687 --> 01:42:47,270 keep those features alive and continually add more to it which they do continually do. 1504 01:42:47,477 --> 01:42:49,617 I think it's worth it. 1505 01:42:49,730 --> 01:42:53,310 I agree to a point, but their revenue is really high. 1506 01:42:53,310 --> 01:42:57,570 for a private company, are making billions. 1507 01:42:57,570 --> 01:43:06,490 And so I think they could cut their revenue down to like 20 % because right now they did. 1508 01:43:06,490 --> 01:43:07,490 Yeah. 1509 01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:09,969 Heck, even 10 % for Indie. 1510 01:43:09,969 --> 01:43:13,269 saying, but I'm also in the camp that they don't need to cut it. 1511 01:43:13,269 --> 01:43:20,753 I actually would argue and say that of every company, Valve is the only one that justifies the 70-30 cut. 1512 01:43:21,362 --> 01:43:23,396 I think they can justify it. 1513 01:43:23,396 --> 01:43:28,916 I just don't think it's very good for very small indies. 1514 01:43:28,916 --> 01:43:30,329 What they do, it... 1515 01:43:30,329 --> 01:43:31,009 agree with that. 1516 01:43:31,009 --> 01:43:34,649 think they're scaling it the wrong way. 1517 01:43:34,649 --> 01:43:37,529 I think they need to switch it around. 1518 01:43:37,529 --> 01:43:40,869 think for like indie games, it needs to be something like 80-20. 1519 01:43:40,869 --> 01:43:48,049 And then when they hit a certain threshold, like a million copies sold, then they switch it back to 70-30. 1520 01:43:48,689 --> 01:43:50,193 They don't do that. 1521 01:43:50,824 --> 01:43:56,631 there to benefit the AAA companies, the companies that Valve really wants in Steam, you know? 1522 01:43:56,631 --> 01:43:58,542 Yeah, and I understand that. 1523 01:43:58,542 --> 01:43:59,982 just think it's backwards. 1524 01:43:59,982 --> 01:44:09,506 Like I understand why they want to keep the AAA developers and publishers liking Steam and wanting to continue uh publishing on Steam. 1525 01:44:09,506 --> 01:44:18,449 But at the same time, like Indies are just as big, if not more, when you look at them as a collective and 1526 01:44:19,352 --> 01:44:29,395 some when some of the big companies cannot are like, I shouldn't say big, but like there's some pretty decent indie games that just didn't sell quite well enough and they might not 1527 01:44:29,395 --> 01:44:30,467 make another game again. 1528 01:44:30,467 --> 01:44:32,533 And so if you. 1529 01:44:32,533 --> 01:44:33,354 roller-dome. 1530 01:44:33,354 --> 01:44:34,135 that. 1531 01:44:35,858 --> 01:44:39,019 Yeah, here's actually a pretty decent example right here. 1532 01:44:39,019 --> 01:44:42,288 Have you heard about what happened with a game called Planet Centauri? 1533 01:44:42,631 --> 01:44:45,255 Uh, no, but I do know of the game. 1534 01:44:45,608 --> 01:44:54,291 So basically what happened was that one of Steam's features is that it's supposed to let you know when a game releases. 1535 01:44:54,293 --> 01:44:59,195 Or in the case of an early access game, it's supposed to let you know when the game hits 1.0, right? 1536 01:45:00,216 --> 01:45:08,060 But in this case, they had 138,000 wishlists and apparently it failed. 1537 01:45:08,060 --> 01:45:10,621 The feature on Steam failed. 1538 01:45:10,682 --> 01:45:12,983 Which means they only ever got like... 1539 01:45:12,983 --> 01:45:15,244 So obviously... 1540 01:45:15,292 --> 01:45:25,719 These aren't all guaranteed sales on day one, it certainly would have been a little over 500 in five days, right? 1541 01:45:25,839 --> 01:45:26,740 Yeah. 1542 01:45:26,740 --> 01:45:30,703 So basically they got fucked over because Valve's systems failed. 1543 01:45:30,703 --> 01:45:37,007 And apparently it was a bug where less than hundred games since 2015 have experienced. 1544 01:45:37,007 --> 01:45:38,978 And I guess this is one of them now. 1545 01:45:41,443 --> 01:45:46,217 Did Valve take responsibility and help try to fix it? 1546 01:45:46,996 --> 01:45:57,202 They tried to offer it as like the daily deal so that it would be on the algorithm But it's done a lot of damage to the algorithm because I mean because how the algorithm... 1547 01:45:57,202 --> 01:46:08,188 Gardner would be better explaining this since he actually has sold a game on Steam, know, doodlings But like from what I understand it's a kind of a black box kind of like the 1548 01:46:08,188 --> 01:46:16,332 mythical YouTube algorithm and one of the things that really helps out is the the wish listing and the amount of sales 1549 01:46:16,671 --> 01:46:26,374 wishlisting used to be much more important, it's also cause like it's not as useful as it used to be. 1550 01:46:26,374 --> 01:46:27,495 But yeah, it is big. 1551 01:46:27,495 --> 01:46:34,594 Like if an indie game doesn't have any of that wishlist uh users emailed, it could make the game fail. 1552 01:46:35,191 --> 01:46:36,786 like it kind of did here. 1553 01:46:37,206 --> 01:46:44,411 Yeah, it is a big deal, but it's not like all 130,000 are gonna buy that. 1554 01:46:44,411 --> 01:46:48,334 It used to be more and more that like good chunk would buy it. 1555 01:46:48,334 --> 01:46:52,296 It's probably more like a 50 % would, if you're lucky. 1556 01:46:53,298 --> 01:46:53,987 If you're lucky. 1557 01:46:53,987 --> 01:46:56,861 people have to really pick and choose what games they want to buy. 1558 01:46:57,424 --> 01:46:58,805 It's become tough. 1559 01:46:58,930 --> 01:47:03,444 I mean, unfortunately, it being a daily deal, don't think it's gonna... 1560 01:47:03,444 --> 01:47:08,718 They don't think it's gonna make up for all the lost visibility, because the game's been out for like a year at this point. 1561 01:47:09,663 --> 01:47:11,035 A daily deal won't help. 1562 01:47:11,035 --> 01:47:16,032 What they need to do is just feature it on like right when you jump on feature for a few weeks. 1563 01:47:16,032 --> 01:47:17,685 They sox but. 1564 01:47:17,685 --> 01:47:20,469 should have done like a giant banner like they did for like silk song. 1565 01:47:20,469 --> 01:47:23,153 They should have just done that for plants to untie to make up for it. 1566 01:47:23,153 --> 01:47:24,716 I think that would have helped a lot. 1567 01:47:24,716 --> 01:47:25,477 Yeah. 1568 01:47:26,482 --> 01:47:32,635 Yeah, I mean it's just the unfortunate reality of what happens when all the cogs don't work. 1569 01:47:32,635 --> 01:47:37,717 mean Steam, I would say, props up like 90 % of all PC gaming, right? 1570 01:47:38,538 --> 01:47:44,090 And if something doesn't work for one developer, then, you know, it really royally fucks them over, right? 1571 01:47:44,269 --> 01:47:54,162 Now it's a shame to see this happen, especially because the game did have a uh decent following and it probably wouldn't have failed if everything worked the way it was 1572 01:47:54,162 --> 01:47:55,113 supposed to. 1573 01:47:56,074 --> 01:48:01,852 Well, it doesn't give confidence to indie developers to know that they might not be able to make it. 1574 01:48:01,852 --> 01:48:04,417 And indie developers do not make much. 1575 01:48:05,426 --> 01:48:11,404 Hmm, I mean, I don't know what more valve can do at this point but 1576 01:48:11,404 --> 01:48:13,841 this point, I think it might be a little too late. 1577 01:48:15,131 --> 01:48:20,168 They could give them a million dollars So they build the next game 1578 01:48:21,354 --> 01:48:23,151 oh just one million though? 1579 01:48:23,151 --> 01:48:23,619 I mean I- 1580 01:48:23,619 --> 01:48:26,341 don't know, like they make so much money. 1581 01:48:26,341 --> 01:48:28,159 That's my problem with all this. 1582 01:48:28,159 --> 01:48:28,793 oh 1583 01:48:28,793 --> 01:48:34,233 let's say 50 % of the 138,000 wishlists would have bought the game and it's what, $15. 1584 01:48:34,733 --> 01:48:35,833 So what is that? 1585 01:48:35,833 --> 01:48:39,273 Like, let's, let's go 70,000 people. 1586 01:48:39,273 --> 01:48:41,253 You know, that's, what is that? 1587 01:48:41,253 --> 01:48:46,993 700, a million 50,000 is about what they would make. 1588 01:48:47,073 --> 01:48:49,553 30 % of that would go to valve. 1589 01:48:49,553 --> 01:48:53,453 So I was at 105, 210, 315. 1590 01:48:54,733 --> 01:48:55,929 Oh God. 1591 01:48:55,929 --> 01:48:59,649 I'm trying to do the math in my head, bear with me. 1592 01:49:01,449 --> 01:49:02,389 What was that? 1593 01:49:02,649 --> 01:49:07,309 685 with, so 685,000. 1594 01:49:08,914 --> 01:49:10,437 I'm looking at the game and it looks like... 1595 01:49:10,437 --> 01:49:11,477 700. 1596 01:49:11,877 --> 01:49:23,057 So I think they would have made 735,000 after after valves cut with 70,000 sales. 1597 01:49:24,317 --> 01:49:28,297 Yeah, no, I played it in in early access. 1598 01:49:28,617 --> 01:49:29,897 It's good. 1599 01:49:30,132 --> 01:49:31,152 Damn. 1600 01:49:31,692 --> 01:49:32,792 That's super unfortunate. 1601 01:49:32,792 --> 01:49:34,932 Let's see if anyone talks about it in the reviews. 1602 01:49:35,312 --> 01:49:37,112 In the recent reviews. 1603 01:49:37,852 --> 01:49:40,912 Ah, here we go. 1604 01:49:40,952 --> 01:49:43,972 Hey man, mean, the news made it, dude. 1605 01:49:43,972 --> 01:49:49,503 I mean, there's a good chance that this game might get its second wind now that people know that 1.0 is out. 1606 01:49:49,503 --> 01:49:53,276 What a, out of curiosity, what plugin do you use for your browser? 1607 01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:56,407 ah I use augmented steam. 1608 01:49:56,599 --> 01:49:57,775 gotta look into that. 1609 01:49:57,775 --> 01:50:02,011 There's some little features right there that I think are kind 1610 01:50:02,126 --> 01:50:04,207 and also SteamDB. 1611 01:50:07,191 --> 01:50:14,357 So augmented Steam, uh the whole backend of it runs off of is there any deal? 1612 01:50:14,678 --> 01:50:16,760 So it gives you deals based on stuff like that. 1613 01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:21,003 So yeah, it tells you historical lows and all that good stuff. 1614 01:50:21,566 --> 01:50:23,255 It looks fun, the game's 15 bucks. 1615 01:50:23,255 --> 01:50:24,075 player stats. 1616 01:50:24,075 --> 01:50:25,335 I think that's cool. 1617 01:50:27,327 --> 01:50:29,256 Though I mean, Stanley B has that too. 1618 01:50:29,256 --> 01:50:31,907 It's just, I like how this one looks a little 1619 01:50:34,133 --> 01:50:39,150 Though, I guess it doesn't show the followers, and it does for SteamDB. 1620 01:50:41,424 --> 01:50:44,019 So let's see what's going on here. 1621 01:50:45,303 --> 01:50:52,186 I do wish they made one last update to make it Steam Deck verified, given that this game... 1622 01:50:52,186 --> 01:50:54,134 They've gone through the wringer. 1623 01:50:54,134 --> 01:50:55,834 They don't have to do anything else. 1624 01:50:55,834 --> 01:50:57,254 to. 1625 01:50:57,894 --> 01:51:03,034 But I think having one more update to just show people... 1626 01:51:03,034 --> 01:51:04,134 I don't know. 1627 01:51:04,434 --> 01:51:06,314 I don't know, what's whatever. 1628 01:51:06,854 --> 01:51:08,114 It's unfortunate. 1629 01:51:08,114 --> 01:51:10,054 They are still alive though. 1630 01:51:10,054 --> 01:51:12,554 They are making a second game thankfully. 1631 01:51:12,554 --> 01:51:14,834 So they're not out of business or anything. 1632 01:51:15,849 --> 01:51:20,807 I would kind of understand if they feel pretty jaded by Steam and Valve though. 1633 01:51:20,807 --> 01:51:26,650 Like if they wanted to take like an exclusive deal from Epic, think I could understand why they would decide that. 1634 01:51:26,650 --> 01:51:30,848 That's totally valid, I mean, I probably, I mean, unfortunately... 1635 01:51:30,848 --> 01:51:37,959 if I would, I don't know like nothing, no shade to them, but I don't know if I would buy it it's an epic exclusive, but I can understand. 1636 01:51:39,055 --> 01:51:51,174 Yeah, the other thing too is that like I forget who, I don't know if it was Dave O'Shree or was it someone else from like the indie publishing area that said that the Epic Games 1637 01:51:51,174 --> 01:51:53,806 Store is a marketing black hole. 1638 01:51:55,751 --> 01:52:08,189 I'm not sure it sounds like something Dave would say but Honestly, it's I don't know I as much as much as like You know, there are some really cool games that are released on epic 1639 01:52:08,189 --> 01:52:21,807 like Alan Wake 2 is on epic Tankhead is also on epic uh But unfortunately like I don't think they'll ever ever get the traction that they would if they were on Steam 1640 01:52:22,466 --> 01:52:24,227 Absolutely, so I mean... 1641 01:52:24,806 --> 01:52:27,440 I mean, definitely do publish on Steam. 1642 01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:32,466 Hopefully they don't get screwed over a second time, otherwise, yeah. 1643 01:52:32,686 --> 01:52:34,828 And it's no shade to the developers. 1644 01:52:34,828 --> 01:52:38,212 I understand why they would take an exclusive deal, especially as an indie dev. 1645 01:52:38,212 --> 01:52:41,495 Getting guaranteed income is massive. 1646 01:52:41,896 --> 01:52:43,471 But also, it's 1647 01:52:43,471 --> 01:52:44,820 I don't think it's selling out. 1648 01:52:44,820 --> 01:52:46,083 I think it's fine. 1649 01:52:46,259 --> 01:52:49,338 even think Epic is doing Epic exclusives anymore. 1650 01:52:49,338 --> 01:52:51,855 think they stopped doing that because they... 1651 01:52:51,855 --> 01:52:53,516 as they should. 1652 01:52:54,635 --> 01:53:01,619 I don't think it is a great business decision, especially in the PC ecosystem. 1653 01:53:01,619 --> 01:53:04,620 And as we see, consoles are starting to move away from it too. 1654 01:53:04,620 --> 01:53:13,233 um But I think in general, just the Epic storefront is just really poorly made. 1655 01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:20,130 Yeah, speaking of poorly made, this argument that Nintendo is presenting. 1656 01:53:21,250 --> 01:53:23,050 So a little bit of a back story. 1657 01:53:23,050 --> 01:53:29,830 We've been talking a fair bit about Power One versus Nintendo because I mean, it's a huge deal. 1658 01:53:29,870 --> 01:53:33,230 And we talked about the patent that they got last week. 1659 01:53:33,370 --> 01:53:43,038 now, Pocket Pair brought up an argument that, you know, they pointed to a couple of mods that did essentially what Nintendo patented, like, you know. 1660 01:53:43,242 --> 01:53:50,842 Pixelmon for Minecraft and also they also point out this mod for Dark Souls 3. 1661 01:53:50,842 --> 01:53:51,868 Wait, that's a mod? 1662 01:53:51,868 --> 01:53:53,179 Wait, Pocket Souls? 1663 01:53:53,179 --> 01:53:54,570 I need to see this. 1664 01:53:54,676 --> 01:53:55,550 I'd play that. 1665 01:53:55,550 --> 01:53:57,960 So it's a mod in Dark Souls 3. 1666 01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:59,284 Is there a video of this somewhere? 1667 01:53:59,284 --> 01:54:01,812 Yeah, I just need to see- just show me something. 1668 01:54:01,812 --> 01:54:03,495 I wanna see what's up. 1669 01:54:04,357 --> 01:54:06,203 Here, I got you. 1670 01:54:06,203 --> 01:54:07,286 There we go. 1671 01:54:09,307 --> 01:54:10,334 Okay. 1672 01:54:10,334 --> 01:54:16,696 So it's not actual Pokemon that are in the game, looks like it's creatures from Dark Souls that you can bring out. 1673 01:54:16,893 --> 01:54:17,987 Yes. 1674 01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:19,087 I think. 1675 01:54:19,087 --> 01:54:20,201 look he can't! 1676 01:54:22,321 --> 01:54:24,085 Nintendo's coming after ya. 1677 01:54:24,621 --> 01:54:25,725 Uh... 1678 01:54:26,621 --> 01:54:27,498 Not static. 1679 01:54:27,498 --> 01:54:29,783 prior art in Japanese court. 1680 01:54:29,783 --> 01:54:30,877 Do you think that's true? 1681 01:54:30,877 --> 01:54:31,698 They're... 1682 01:54:31,843 --> 01:54:33,338 They're crazy. 1683 01:54:34,983 --> 01:54:39,038 Nintendo like the Japanese system and all that stuff is crazy over there. 1684 01:54:39,038 --> 01:54:40,166 They don't let you mod games. 1685 01:54:40,166 --> 01:54:41,371 You can go to jail 1686 01:54:41,541 --> 01:54:43,276 for modding your save data. 1687 01:54:44,303 --> 01:54:49,926 for just about anything it seems like with when it comes to games it's really weird 1688 01:54:51,919 --> 01:55:02,125 Well, you know, the reason why Nintendo says that it's not prior art is because without the hard work of the original devs, those mods would never exist. 1689 01:55:02,626 --> 01:55:04,467 So therefore it's not prior art. 1690 01:55:06,356 --> 01:55:18,934 But without the hard work of the professors that taught them, other companies that came before that art is iterative, we would not be where we're at without um prior works of 1691 01:55:18,934 --> 01:55:20,105 other games. 1692 01:55:20,866 --> 01:55:22,135 That's how it is. 1693 01:55:22,135 --> 01:55:24,046 hear PocketPair make that argument. 1694 01:55:25,425 --> 01:55:36,137 I mean, that's probably what they're going to make when they, you know, during and they've already made because that's that's the reality of the thing of how copyright, how 1695 01:55:36,137 --> 01:55:41,773 creativity, how entertainment, all this works is everything is built on top of something else. 1696 01:55:41,773 --> 01:55:44,105 It's all iterative, iterative. 1697 01:55:46,345 --> 01:55:47,267 So. 1698 01:55:47,267 --> 01:55:52,528 don't know if you guys have heard, but Power World 1.0 is coming pretty soon. 1699 01:55:54,633 --> 01:55:57,120 That's so crazy, I thought that game was already out. 1700 01:55:57,273 --> 01:56:09,089 know, it's so crazy to think about, Nintendo and their games are probably some of the most creative and brilliant ever created. 1701 01:56:09,089 --> 01:56:13,081 Like, way that they inject so much into their games. 1702 01:56:13,081 --> 01:56:19,304 And they're also one of the biggest companies that stifle creativity from everyone else. 1703 01:56:19,994 --> 01:56:27,389 If anyone tries to do anything similar to what they do or tries to keep their games alive, they just crush them. 1704 01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:29,621 It's just kind of crazy to me. 1705 01:56:29,621 --> 01:56:35,015 Imagine games like Super Mario Wonder and Mario Odyssey and the things that they do. 1706 01:56:35,015 --> 01:56:39,258 It's just so crazy how much love that they put into their games. 1707 01:56:39,258 --> 01:56:46,383 And then as soon as anyone else wants to put love into their games in a similar fashion, they're like, no, can't do it. 1708 01:56:46,744 --> 01:56:47,398 Nope. 1709 01:56:47,398 --> 01:56:48,524 of Japan. 1710 01:56:49,770 --> 01:56:51,729 Yeah, they definitely are, but it's just... 1711 01:56:51,729 --> 01:56:52,219 Yeah. 1712 01:56:52,219 --> 01:56:57,859 It is interesting though, they'll collaborate with basically anyone in Japan, commercially speaking. 1713 01:56:58,139 --> 01:57:07,659 Like I saw, like I was in Japan, I went to the Pokemon Center there, they're playing videos of a Hatsune Miku song where there were Pokemon in the video too. 1714 01:57:08,574 --> 01:57:15,171 No, it feels like Nintendo is very pro-Japan and I- and I- it- to me it's kind of patriotic in a way and I- and I respect that. 1715 01:57:15,171 --> 01:57:18,153 Yeah, pocket pears are also Japanese too. 1716 01:57:18,634 --> 01:57:20,675 But I guess they don't like the fact that... 1717 01:57:21,817 --> 01:57:23,899 Dude, they should collaborate with Power World. 1718 01:57:23,899 --> 01:57:33,207 Dude, release Power World on the Switch too, and then have like an official skin where you can like, you can put Pikachu in the mines. 1719 01:57:33,236 --> 01:57:35,546 they will never do that. 1720 01:57:35,651 --> 01:57:36,367 Ever. 1721 01:57:36,367 --> 01:57:38,422 That would be hilarious though. 1722 01:57:38,624 --> 01:57:41,595 That would be, but I just can never see them doing that. 1723 01:57:41,595 --> 01:57:45,024 Even though it would be cool of them to do. 1724 01:57:45,024 --> 01:57:55,408 I really disagree with how aggressive they are against companies that, you know, like I said, they're just trying to keep their games alive. 1725 01:57:55,749 --> 01:57:58,810 And like their ideas alive. 1726 01:57:59,170 --> 01:58:02,361 And it's just kind of a shame. 1727 01:58:02,361 --> 01:58:06,342 It's similar to how I feel about Warner Brothers patenting the Nemesis system. 1728 01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:08,322 You know, they should never done that. 1729 01:58:08,322 --> 01:58:12,165 And it really makes me upset because it was a brilliant system. 1730 01:58:12,446 --> 01:58:14,608 And now it's just gone. 1731 01:58:16,167 --> 01:58:17,345 It shouldn't be legal. 1732 01:58:17,345 --> 01:58:20,319 It's software patents are a joke. 1733 01:58:21,477 --> 01:58:23,993 God, I hate WB. 1734 01:58:25,721 --> 01:58:28,514 Also, here's one more thing too. 1735 01:58:30,619 --> 01:58:34,501 Power World has had to change the mechanics due to Nintendo, if you recall. 1736 01:58:35,662 --> 01:58:45,597 So if you recall, you used to be able to throw your pokeball, I mean, pal-sphere at like a thing, and then it would just do it, but now you, but now you just kind of summons it 1737 01:58:45,597 --> 01:58:47,108 beside you too. 1738 01:58:48,188 --> 01:58:51,850 Instead of like being able to throw it out and throw it. 1739 01:58:52,511 --> 01:58:53,034 Man. 1740 01:58:53,034 --> 01:59:00,729 You you not mentioning like that the way you that's why it was taken away and they got sued because people like you calling it a pokeball. 1741 01:59:01,420 --> 01:59:02,424 Amen. 1742 01:59:02,443 --> 01:59:04,378 So now you're part of the problem. 1743 01:59:04,577 --> 01:59:06,010 You're part of the problem. 1744 01:59:07,890 --> 01:59:09,655 He's just calling it like he sees it. 1745 01:59:09,655 --> 01:59:11,064 um 1746 01:59:11,397 --> 01:59:13,604 All I know, I'm just messing. 1747 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,223 I don't know man. 1748 01:59:18,223 --> 01:59:20,065 I hope Power World wins. 1749 01:59:20,065 --> 01:59:22,007 That's just my thoughts. 1750 01:59:23,585 --> 01:59:29,188 I have a feeling it's gonna probably be one of those things where they settle to where Pal World has to pay a certain percentage. 1751 01:59:29,188 --> 01:59:36,142 just feels like, I don't think Pal World's gonna go away, but Nintendo's so big. 1752 01:59:36,142 --> 01:59:38,093 Yeah, it's... 1753 01:59:38,437 --> 01:59:43,200 So what sort of classification do you think Power World would be in? 1754 01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:43,541 AAA? 1755 01:59:43,541 --> 01:59:43,771 AA? 1756 01:59:43,771 --> 01:59:44,503 Indie? 1757 01:59:44,503 --> 01:59:46,387 uh 1758 01:59:46,396 --> 01:59:47,316 Indie. 1759 01:59:47,797 --> 01:59:49,588 They've they made they made a lot of money. 1760 01:59:49,588 --> 01:59:55,782 It's like it's like would you classify uh when the original Hades released? 1761 01:59:55,782 --> 01:59:58,840 Would you classify the developer as AAA? 1762 02:00:01,273 --> 02:00:08,456 I feel like at some point you start being indie and start going firmly into AA. 1763 02:00:08,979 --> 02:00:11,267 And it really depends on how big the company is. 1764 02:00:11,267 --> 02:00:14,247 still independent studio and that's how they started. 1765 02:00:14,247 --> 02:00:26,064 I would say maybe starting at their next game, they've got enough backing and enough money now where they can start off with a higher budget with more people and burst out of that 1766 02:00:26,064 --> 02:00:26,620 indie. 1767 02:00:26,620 --> 02:00:30,477 indie, and no one in their right mind would say Baldur's Gate 3 is an indie game. 1768 02:00:30,618 --> 02:00:31,479 Right? 1769 02:00:31,529 --> 02:00:40,120 But that's what I mean, like, but would you say that uh when it was released, like, Divinity Original Sin 2 would be closer to an indie game? 1770 02:00:40,349 --> 02:00:43,089 They started out indie, became double A. 1771 02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:46,425 That's, yeah. 1772 02:00:46,425 --> 02:00:50,486 And they're doing really great things with their funds. 1773 02:00:50,486 --> 02:00:52,787 mean, they've started their own publishing arm. 1774 02:00:52,987 --> 02:00:56,008 And uh that's great as well. 1775 02:00:56,008 --> 02:01:08,458 So the way I see it is they are not indie anymore, but Power World is still technically a game that was born from indie. 1776 02:01:08,889 --> 02:01:10,220 Yeah, like Minecraft. 1777 02:01:12,288 --> 02:01:16,495 I don't know if I'd consider Minecraft to be an indie game anymore. 1778 02:01:16,557 --> 02:01:18,665 definitely started indie though. 1779 02:01:18,665 --> 02:01:19,234 Yeah. 1780 02:01:19,234 --> 02:01:20,115 started indie. 1781 02:01:20,115 --> 02:01:24,107 Yes, but it's also now owned by Microsoft. 1782 02:01:25,108 --> 02:01:33,112 That's if if if pocket pair becomes owned by Nintendo, then no, the power world is no longer an indie game. 1783 02:01:33,785 --> 02:01:45,763 Yeah, so I was reading this article uh that was determining what a double A really is, and more importantly, the kind of misleading label of an quote-unquote indie game, so to 1784 02:01:45,763 --> 02:01:46,643 speak. 1785 02:01:47,604 --> 02:01:58,861 Because it really depends on how you classify an indie game, because if you go through the hardline definition of indie being like it's an independent game... 1786 02:01:58,861 --> 02:02:02,465 It becomes much more, what is the word? 1787 02:02:03,689 --> 02:02:08,716 It's much more open, more encompassing of many more companies. 1788 02:02:09,231 --> 02:02:16,380 Yeah, like for example, you could consider Capcom indie because they're independent. 1789 02:02:16,380 --> 02:02:21,380 can consider Bandai Namco and their self-developed games as independent games, yeah. 1790 02:02:21,380 --> 02:02:22,560 or valve. 1791 02:02:23,892 --> 02:02:26,412 Valve is definitely an indie studio. 1792 02:02:26,412 --> 02:02:27,416 100%. 1793 02:02:27,545 --> 02:02:39,227 Yes, and also one more thing too is, uh you know, the fact that like indie gives off a specific, but like would you consider games published by Devolver Digital to be indie? 1794 02:02:39,904 --> 02:02:41,715 So that's a tough one as well. 1795 02:02:41,715 --> 02:02:46,508 They're an indie publisher, I think any game that now has... 1796 02:02:46,508 --> 02:02:53,732 I would say self-published games from independent studios or indie studios are definitely indie. 1797 02:02:53,732 --> 02:03:06,310 Ones that are published by bigger studios like Devolver Digital or Critical Reflex, it starts to go over to that AA standard or like the higher production indie. 1798 02:03:06,612 --> 02:03:10,813 you know, maybe something like a step above, but right under AA. 1799 02:03:10,934 --> 02:03:21,848 It's that one is a tougher one because on in all like they especially it gets tougher that a lot of these publishers then call themselves indie publishers because they're 1800 02:03:21,848 --> 02:03:23,319 technically right. 1801 02:03:23,319 --> 02:03:34,243 But then it loses some of that indie status because now these games have backing and that's one of the big things that I think would signify in indie game is from a studio 1802 02:03:34,243 --> 02:03:36,288 that doesn't have the same backing. 1803 02:03:36,288 --> 02:03:40,308 that like a double A or a triple A would have. 1804 02:03:40,889 --> 02:03:51,267 Well, if we go back to like the record industry, there's only three big companies and anyone outside of those three big companies, know, Warner Bros or Sony or I think 1805 02:03:51,267 --> 02:03:53,729 Universal, I forget who the third one is. 1806 02:03:54,190 --> 02:04:00,394 But anyone outside of those is considered a quote unquote indie label, despite the fact that they're also massive companies as well. 1807 02:04:01,796 --> 02:04:07,801 And I think that I think by that, I mean, you can disagree with it. 1808 02:04:07,801 --> 02:04:10,988 I don't agree with it either, but it's also the official design. 1809 02:04:10,988 --> 02:04:16,747 So there's not much I can do unless you want to be unless you're like a big top dog I'd like some music 1810 02:04:16,747 --> 02:04:24,374 record labels suck, but also, um, I mean, that's just kind of how it's designated. 1811 02:04:24,414 --> 02:04:34,283 But when I think of indie, I think of like the one man team, like Slaven away in his basement and making a game like Cave Story. 1812 02:04:34,362 --> 02:04:36,963 I have a question for you. 1813 02:04:37,683 --> 02:04:46,187 Would you consider, like isn't the developer of Stardew Valley concerned about making a new game about being a chocolatier? 1814 02:04:47,288 --> 02:04:56,733 Would you consider his next game to be indie after he has obviously made an insane amount of money from Stardew Valley? 1815 02:04:57,141 --> 02:04:58,609 Hmm... 1816 02:04:58,609 --> 02:05:00,477 Wow. 1817 02:05:00,477 --> 02:05:08,919 developer, still funding it himself, but he has an extreme amount of money from Stardew Valley. 1818 02:05:09,073 --> 02:05:10,525 I don't think it's just about money. 1819 02:05:10,525 --> 02:05:11,576 think it's about scope. 1820 02:05:11,576 --> 02:05:15,039 I think it's about um a lot of that. 1821 02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:16,121 Let's see. 1822 02:05:16,345 --> 02:05:17,164 So. 1823 02:05:17,393 --> 02:05:22,276 definitely more nuanced than just money, for sure. 1824 02:05:22,376 --> 02:05:26,428 But I think it's important to take a look at all aspects. 1825 02:05:26,428 --> 02:05:28,799 I would say, yeah, it's still an indie game. 1826 02:05:29,860 --> 02:05:33,181 But it's an interesting hypothetical to think about. 1827 02:05:33,229 --> 02:05:38,523 Yeah, it's self-published, presumably, and he's a solo developer. 1828 02:05:38,523 --> 02:05:41,805 I mean, he truly is independent. 1829 02:05:41,986 --> 02:05:46,829 And yeah, he has a lot of money that he can stick into the game, true. 1830 02:05:47,670 --> 02:05:58,188 But at the same time, though, a lot uh of production costs for games traditionally has been paying other people, and since he doesn't pay other people, it could be a lot less 1831 02:05:58,188 --> 02:05:59,479 than we really think. 1832 02:05:59,717 --> 02:06:01,077 Yeah. 1833 02:06:01,457 --> 02:06:03,917 No, it's true. 1834 02:06:03,937 --> 02:06:10,297 I'm just saying, think the definition of indie has become very cloudy. 1835 02:06:11,437 --> 02:06:18,317 It's no longer a simple, oh, this is indie and this isn't, because anyone can use the indie moniker. 1836 02:06:18,317 --> 02:06:22,057 Like that's what Dave the Diver used for the longest time. 1837 02:06:22,057 --> 02:06:25,837 They would call themselves an indie game and a lot of others called them indie game. 1838 02:06:25,837 --> 02:06:28,557 then, you know, they've got Nexon's backing. 1839 02:06:28,747 --> 02:06:29,728 Okay. 1840 02:06:30,793 --> 02:06:35,886 I don't recall them ever saying that they were indie. 1841 02:06:36,451 --> 02:06:39,645 I feel like it was, they accepted it. 1842 02:06:40,014 --> 02:06:50,655 Yeah, they accepted it, but like that was because everyone else thought that well everyone else and fucking joff keely said some bullshit about uh In about words not 1843 02:06:50,655 --> 02:06:52,682 for like the best indie game that year? 1844 02:06:52,909 --> 02:06:53,499 They were. 1845 02:06:53,499 --> 02:06:57,041 mean, of Stars won, but like, I think... 1846 02:06:58,082 --> 02:07:02,459 It honestly was probably down to the wire between those two. 1847 02:07:02,459 --> 02:07:11,030 I feel like had there not been so much pushback on Dave the Diver being nominated, it might have had a decent, a better chance of winning over Sea of Stars. 1848 02:07:11,391 --> 02:07:15,704 But at the same time though, I feel like it shouldn't have been nominated to begin with, to be honest. 1849 02:07:15,704 --> 02:07:18,475 Because not only was it backed by Nexon, 1850 02:07:18,957 --> 02:07:22,173 consider Dave the Diver an indie game. 1851 02:07:22,211 --> 02:07:28,745 Yeah, not only was it just backed by Nexon, but it was also like a, it was also a studio within Nexon. 1852 02:07:28,745 --> 02:07:31,676 Like they, they made a like subsidiary. 1853 02:07:31,777 --> 02:07:36,469 It's like Capcom making Clovers and saying Clovers is an indie studio, right? 1854 02:07:36,695 --> 02:07:37,478 Exactly. 1855 02:07:37,478 --> 02:07:39,152 Yeah, it's just you can't. 1856 02:07:39,174 --> 02:07:40,637 I disagree with it. 1857 02:07:40,792 --> 02:07:41,557 Yeah. 1858 02:07:43,695 --> 02:07:51,315 So this article, I didn't get to the point, but this article proposes two different classifications for indies. 1859 02:07:51,475 --> 02:07:53,695 First is the K. 1860 02:07:53,775 --> 02:07:56,555 I don't know why, I don't know where these names actually came. 1861 02:07:56,555 --> 02:08:02,915 Oh, it came from a Japanese car, a really tiny one, a K car. 1862 02:08:02,915 --> 02:08:06,975 I've seen a couple of these in Japan. 1863 02:08:07,435 --> 02:08:13,055 But yeah, the K classification of games are much smaller games. 1864 02:08:13,209 --> 02:08:19,404 think Undertale or Geometry Dash and then the MIDI games. 1865 02:08:20,266 --> 02:08:20,982 Wait, why are they... 1866 02:08:20,982 --> 02:08:26,831 They don't have an explanation for why they call it MIDI because it's not like the file format. 1867 02:08:28,133 --> 02:08:30,735 Is there another definition for MIDI that I'm not aware of? 1868 02:08:32,857 --> 02:08:34,953 You are asking the wrong person. 1869 02:08:35,935 --> 02:08:43,027 well, the MIDI classification of indie games are some of the more higher scale indie games. 1870 02:08:43,269 --> 02:08:44,791 And some of them really do. 1871 02:08:46,473 --> 02:08:50,313 where I'd say Divinity Original Sin 2 is. 1872 02:08:52,293 --> 02:08:57,813 Because Larian did have games that released prior and they had a decent amount of money. 1873 02:08:58,213 --> 02:09:01,473 And then I would say MIDI is probably where they are. 1874 02:09:01,473 --> 02:09:09,093 And I'd say a lot of Devolver's published games probably lie in MIDI in that scale. 1875 02:09:09,186 --> 02:09:19,397 And then, of course, you have the AA, which uh they point out clear obscurity as this dot right here, like firmly in the middle. 1876 02:09:20,780 --> 02:09:22,581 Yeah, I would think so too. 1877 02:09:23,263 --> 02:09:27,207 There's just a lot of weird definitions of what is and isn't indie. 1878 02:09:27,394 --> 02:09:33,611 I don't know if I could trust this because there's no quadruple A then what's GTA 6 gonna be? 1879 02:09:33,611 --> 02:09:34,212 that's right. 1880 02:09:34,212 --> 02:09:36,779 Where's where's where's skull and bones? 1881 02:09:37,263 --> 02:09:39,428 That's that's quadruple a. 1882 02:09:39,490 --> 02:09:45,783 skull and bones like the corner of this graph and then GTA 6 is like the corner like up here 1883 02:09:45,851 --> 02:09:47,166 sex tuple a game? 1884 02:09:47,166 --> 02:09:47,947 Yeah 1885 02:09:49,839 --> 02:09:54,695 Man, it's gonna be a wild time when GTA 6 comes out. 1886 02:09:55,855 --> 02:10:03,373 Thank god we only do PC stuff because god I don't want to cover GTA 6 when it releases. 1887 02:10:03,907 --> 02:10:12,611 Don't worry, you'll have a year to cover GTA 6 after it re-releases on PC, because that's how Rockstar operates. 1888 02:10:12,611 --> 02:10:13,742 That's true. 1889 02:10:13,742 --> 02:10:16,414 think that's probably one of the biggest issues with Rockstar. 1890 02:10:16,414 --> 02:10:22,349 I think that's actually going to stifle their income in the beginning. 1891 02:10:22,570 --> 02:10:29,756 Because they're not only are they only releasing on consoles, but they're also going to be pricing it pretty high. 1892 02:10:30,297 --> 02:10:34,260 I don't think it means that there's going to be less people buying it. 1893 02:10:34,260 --> 02:10:37,122 I think there's still going to be a lot of people buying it. 1894 02:10:37,563 --> 02:10:39,665 But I don't believe... 1895 02:10:41,434 --> 02:10:51,259 I do see some issue with the idea, especially as we see like Xbox and PlayStation going into multi-platform releases for a reason. 1896 02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:53,611 Rockstar should really be doing that too. 1897 02:10:53,995 --> 02:10:55,575 Do you think it's gonna be $100? 1898 02:10:56,715 --> 02:10:59,366 I don't want it to be. 1899 02:10:59,366 --> 02:11:01,147 I really hope it's not. 1900 02:11:01,147 --> 02:11:06,448 I think it would be a mistake to start that at $100. 1901 02:11:06,448 --> 02:11:10,165 I think it's just going to drive up the price of every other video game. 1902 02:11:10,165 --> 02:11:18,505 I think it could be the start of people trying to do $80 video games and them just saying, well, GTA 6 is doing $100. 1903 02:11:18,885 --> 02:11:19,556 Yeah. 1904 02:11:19,556 --> 02:11:21,251 already have $80 video games. 1905 02:11:21,251 --> 02:11:22,171 Nintendo did that. 1906 02:11:22,171 --> 02:11:34,156 not they're not common enough to where it's like commonplace like uh Silent Hill F is releasing for $69.99 Borderlands 4 went down in price to $69.99 so I think I think it's 1907 02:11:34,156 --> 02:11:46,451 still that's still where the majority stays but I feel like if GTA 6 releases at $100 I think that's going to give more fuel to the fire for uh other companies to raise their 1908 02:11:46,451 --> 02:11:50,787 prices because now they can say still under GTA 6. 1909 02:11:51,261 --> 02:11:56,361 I think they'll try and I don't think they'll succeed other, like a bunch of companies. 1910 02:11:57,501 --> 02:12:03,481 Outer Worlds too, they tried to sell out for what, 70 and they had to drop down to 60. 1911 02:12:05,461 --> 02:12:08,021 Or 80 and they dropped down to 70, whatever. 1912 02:12:09,121 --> 02:12:09,533 Yeah. 1913 02:12:09,533 --> 02:12:11,833 sound right, like didn't Borderlands 4? 1914 02:12:11,833 --> 02:12:13,143 Yeah, so... 1915 02:12:13,170 --> 02:12:14,091 So... 1916 02:12:14,307 --> 02:12:15,651 Yeah, go ahead. 1917 02:12:16,176 --> 02:12:24,486 it's, think like GTA six is one of the only games that could get away selling it for a hundred dollars. 1918 02:12:24,486 --> 02:12:30,533 I think if any other game tries to do that, they will be sorely disappointed in their sales. 1919 02:12:30,821 --> 02:12:36,541 I agree with you to an extent, I do still see bigger companies trying. 1920 02:12:36,541 --> 02:12:38,641 Especially for their big releases. 1921 02:12:39,401 --> 02:12:41,521 and they're not going to go to $100 immediately. 1922 02:12:41,521 --> 02:12:49,201 don't think any company is going to be able to hit $100 for any of their games and still be successful. 1923 02:12:49,201 --> 02:12:54,861 But I do see them trying to slowly inch up to it and starting with the $80 price tag. 1924 02:12:54,861 --> 02:12:58,501 Like I think Xbox will absolutely try again. 1925 02:12:58,949 --> 02:13:08,252 Playstation is one of the first that really pushed the $70 with like Demon's Souls when the PS5 release so I think they might start pushing for that too. 1926 02:13:08,252 --> 02:13:18,194 um Nintendo might be a little bit slower but I think they're gonna end up doing it and if they're all going to do it then I think every other company is then going to drive up 1927 02:13:18,194 --> 02:13:19,725 prices. 1928 02:13:19,725 --> 02:13:26,597 There's not many that can, especially with how the economy is going right now, it's only going to increase and I think this is just gonna be the catalyst. 1929 02:13:26,597 --> 02:13:28,757 At some point it's going to go up. 1930 02:13:29,177 --> 02:13:31,340 GTA 6 could be the catalyst if they do $100. 1931 02:13:31,340 --> 02:13:41,213 are not many companies can do what Silksong did where they can actually afford to do that cheap and still make incredible amount of 1932 02:13:42,671 --> 02:13:45,731 Yeah, I don't know man. 1933 02:13:45,731 --> 02:13:54,331 If it's $100, then I'm sure it's gonna sell really, it's still gonna sell really well and then everyone's gonna, like I think they're gonna, I think some comp, so there's this 1934 02:13:54,331 --> 02:14:04,951 weird perception where, oh they charge their game like for like $70 whereas GT is $100 and then people are gonna think, oh, well this game's of a worse quality because it's $30 1935 02:14:04,951 --> 02:14:05,671 cheaper. 1936 02:14:05,671 --> 02:14:08,991 Like some people really do think that way and it's kind of weird. 1937 02:14:09,291 --> 02:14:10,373 But so I think, 1938 02:14:10,373 --> 02:14:13,313 that some people think that way, but it's true. 1939 02:14:13,500 --> 02:14:22,725 think people are gonna push it to 100 sooner than we expect, they don't want the perception that, this game's cheaper, therefore it's worse. 1940 02:14:22,725 --> 02:14:33,350 That's also one thing that's making Indies hard to swallow for some people, especially the crowd that only plays Call of Duty and Madden in sometimes Rockstar games. 1941 02:14:34,251 --> 02:14:37,172 It's this perception that, it's cheaper, therefore it's worse. 1942 02:14:37,213 --> 02:14:41,232 When you can't really judge art the same way you can judge, like, I don't know what... 1943 02:14:41,232 --> 02:14:45,607 tool that a screwdriver that's like $10 versus $50, right? 1944 02:14:45,667 --> 02:14:47,820 Yeah, but it's not going to stop people. 1945 02:14:50,968 --> 02:14:56,259 I think they're going to have to uh plan for that, essentially. 1946 02:14:56,259 --> 02:14:57,262 That's unfortunate. 1947 02:14:57,262 --> 02:14:59,629 um 1948 02:14:59,629 --> 02:15:04,089 that's why I'm hoping because I'm going to be completely honest. 1949 02:15:04,089 --> 02:15:07,129 GTA 6 selling for a hundred, it's probably worth that much. 1950 02:15:07,129 --> 02:15:17,529 know, GTA has always been in extreme quality series and they've gone over and above with like GTA 4 and 5 and it looks like they're doing the same thing with 6. 1951 02:15:17,529 --> 02:15:19,429 So I respect that. 1952 02:15:19,429 --> 02:15:26,529 Like I can see, you know, that it is a very beautiful 1953 02:15:26,726 --> 02:15:29,566 game that they're putting a lot into it. 1954 02:15:29,846 --> 02:15:38,986 The problem is that people are going to judge, they'd be like, okay, this is $100, I can get this incredible experience that I can play hundreds of hours in, especially if they 1955 02:15:38,986 --> 02:15:43,086 have like a very expansive online mode, similar to GTA V online. 1956 02:15:43,566 --> 02:15:52,706 But, or you can pay like $70 and get a game that kind of doesn't do everything that GTA VI does. 1957 02:15:53,406 --> 02:15:56,266 So I think it's just, I think 1958 02:15:57,005 --> 02:15:59,466 I it's going to be a tough one. 1959 02:15:59,466 --> 02:16:06,150 I hope that they don't release it for a hundred because I understand they're going to release it for more than seventy. 1960 02:16:06,150 --> 02:16:08,471 I cannot see them doing it for seventy. 1961 02:16:09,252 --> 02:16:19,137 I just hope they don't go so high that now because whatever if they release at a higher price too it's going to hurt sales for other games because people are going to say I just 1962 02:16:19,137 --> 02:16:22,919 spent a hundred dollars on this game so I can't buy this fifty dollar game. 1963 02:16:22,919 --> 02:16:25,949 You know I'm hopeful. 1964 02:16:25,949 --> 02:16:29,538 of other games, and it most likely will. 1965 02:16:29,538 --> 02:16:40,245 I'm sure every company that is going to be releasing their game next year will like any game that could be releasing around when GTA does they're immediately going to postpone. 1966 02:16:40,566 --> 02:16:41,197 Immediately. 1967 02:16:41,197 --> 02:16:42,572 There's going to be no doubt about that. 1968 02:16:42,572 --> 02:16:46,210 They're going to avoid it like the plague similar to everyone avoiding Silksong. 1969 02:16:46,210 --> 02:16:48,792 Probably more than avoiding Silksong. 1970 02:16:49,793 --> 02:16:50,391 It's just... 1971 02:16:50,391 --> 02:16:54,570 not just indies, but also like big AAAs are gonna get like caught up 1972 02:16:54,581 --> 02:16:59,061 going to be the biggest launch in video game history at the time. 1973 02:16:59,061 --> 02:17:01,801 Like it's there's no doubt about that. 1974 02:17:01,801 --> 02:17:04,741 Like am I personally excited for it to that extent? 1975 02:17:04,741 --> 02:17:09,501 No, I think there are games I am more excited for like Kingdom Hearts 4. 1976 02:17:09,501 --> 02:17:12,081 Kingdom Hearts 4 is my biggest. 1977 02:17:13,901 --> 02:17:15,981 It's my GTA 6. 1978 02:17:15,981 --> 02:17:16,741 Yeah. 1979 02:17:17,421 --> 02:17:19,841 But it is. 1980 02:17:19,841 --> 02:17:21,961 Yeah, go for it. 1981 02:17:21,961 --> 02:17:22,901 But. 1982 02:17:23,043 --> 02:17:32,119 Looking at it, there is no doubt that GTA 6 is going to be the biggest launch in video game history when it launches. 1983 02:17:33,283 --> 02:17:36,856 Yeah, man, that's crazy. 1984 02:17:36,856 --> 02:17:41,760 I think it's time for, I think we should get the move on with the next topic. 1985 02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:43,951 Any final thoughts on this one before we move on? 1986 02:17:45,702 --> 02:17:47,234 I like indie games. 1987 02:17:47,693 --> 02:17:48,587 Yeah, me too. 1988 02:17:48,587 --> 02:17:51,264 They're the future of games, in my opinion. 1989 02:17:51,302 --> 02:17:56,016 They're the only games that can really go wild with their ideas. 1990 02:17:56,239 --> 02:17:57,612 AA is good too. 1991 02:17:59,727 --> 02:18:04,190 Speaking of going wild with their ideas, this lawsuit is wild. 1992 02:18:04,712 --> 02:18:09,856 So Corsair, if you guys aren't unfamiliar, Corsair makes RAM. 1993 02:18:09,856 --> 02:18:13,319 Generally speaking, it's for people that build their own PCs. 1994 02:18:13,439 --> 02:18:22,467 But how do feel about Corsair being sued and losing due to quote unquote false advertising of RAM speeds? 1995 02:18:23,105 --> 02:18:31,785 I mean, I don't know much about the lawsuit, but if they advertise ram speeds and they were not the correct ram speeds, then yeah, that's false advertising. 1996 02:18:32,090 --> 02:18:33,981 So here, so I'll give you some background. 1997 02:18:33,981 --> 02:18:42,947 basically, so basically every RAM manufacturer advertises RAM speeds for use with XMP profiles on your computers, right? 1998 02:18:43,948 --> 02:18:53,206 So Corsair did the same thing, except these guys saw that they weren't hitting those RAM speeds because it wasn't quote unquote out of the box. 1999 02:18:53,206 --> 02:19:04,058 Which in turn means that, you know, cause like if you plug in, if you got the diameter kit, you know, generally speaking pretty fast, but you don't enable XMP, you're just stuck 2000 02:19:04,058 --> 02:19:11,286 to like the default DDR5 speeds, which is a fair bit slower than what these modules are capable of. 2001 02:19:12,235 --> 02:19:16,422 But does Corsair specifically say with XMP profile? 2002 02:19:19,327 --> 02:19:20,855 I'd have to look at the box. 2003 02:19:20,855 --> 02:19:23,762 that it's out of the box, then it is false advertising. 2004 02:19:23,946 --> 02:19:25,928 No, they're not advertising it as out of the box. 2005 02:19:25,928 --> 02:19:29,240 No, it says XMP on the box, I believe. 2006 02:19:30,161 --> 02:19:39,069 But, you know, some people buy it under the assumption that, oh, well, you just buy it and you put it in and you can just use it. 2007 02:19:39,069 --> 02:19:41,990 But no, that's not necessarily the case. 2008 02:19:42,371 --> 02:19:44,273 it's not just course to the advertisers. 2009 02:19:44,273 --> 02:19:45,514 Like everyone else does it, too. 2010 02:19:45,514 --> 02:19:47,115 Like Gskill does it. 2011 02:19:47,115 --> 02:19:48,276 That's usually what I buy. 2012 02:19:48,276 --> 02:19:50,279 no, that is common. 2013 02:19:50,279 --> 02:19:54,664 I guess it becomes semantics at that point. 2014 02:19:54,664 --> 02:20:04,053 Did Corsair make it obvious enough that you have to basically do something extra to get the ram speeds that they are advertising? 2015 02:20:04,134 --> 02:20:07,998 And uh I guess in court they said no. 2016 02:20:07,998 --> 02:20:08,816 m 2017 02:20:08,816 --> 02:20:11,688 Let's see, Corsair Dominator. 2018 02:20:11,688 --> 02:20:15,032 Let's look at a box for Corsair Dominator. 2019 02:20:16,627 --> 02:20:17,326 See. 2020 02:20:17,326 --> 02:20:18,340 Sorry, I gotta look this up. 2021 02:20:18,340 --> 02:20:22,595 I don't actually know what these boxes look like. 2022 02:20:22,950 --> 02:20:23,928 Hmm. 2023 02:20:24,024 --> 02:20:25,788 Intel XMP ready. 2024 02:20:25,788 --> 02:20:28,548 Yeah, that's not direct. 2025 02:20:28,588 --> 02:20:34,308 Yes, it is on there, but it doesn't say that you will hit this specific speed with XMP. 2026 02:20:34,308 --> 02:20:41,028 Like if they put like an XMP logo next to it or something along those lines, it would make more sense to me. 2027 02:20:41,028 --> 02:20:50,932 And does it say anywhere on the box that 5200 is like the speed if you have an XMP profile with it? 2028 02:20:52,184 --> 02:20:52,958 Ummm... 2029 02:20:52,958 --> 02:20:53,762 hmmm... 2030 02:20:53,762 --> 02:21:04,327 going to be the biggest that that's why I think they may have lost the case because it does looking at that box right there again, we obviously know better but Looking at the 2031 02:21:04,327 --> 02:21:05,017 box right there. 2032 02:21:05,017 --> 02:21:18,943 It it is not apparent that It you have to be using the XMP because it just says XMP certified That's not in the eyes of legal terms are just like I would say logically as 2033 02:21:18,943 --> 02:21:19,584 well. 2034 02:21:19,584 --> 02:21:20,834 It's not enough 2035 02:21:21,594 --> 02:21:23,135 But I would imagine... 2036 02:21:24,236 --> 02:21:25,377 I would imagine it... 2037 02:21:25,377 --> 02:21:25,657 don't... 2038 02:21:25,657 --> 02:21:26,246 Because I can't... 2039 02:21:26,246 --> 02:21:30,401 I don't know for certain because I don't have this module and of course I don't have the manual for it. 2040 02:21:30,401 --> 02:21:37,876 But I would imagine if it's written manually you have to enable XMP to get these speeds then I would imagine that's still fair for Corsair, no? 2041 02:21:37,876 --> 02:21:41,432 Because I mean common sense dictates that you should read the manual. 2042 02:21:41,432 --> 02:21:44,442 Is it on the box where it says that? 2043 02:21:44,442 --> 02:21:49,012 Is it advertised before purchasing and before opening it? 2044 02:21:50,670 --> 02:21:54,619 Unfortunately, Let's see. 2045 02:21:55,002 --> 02:21:58,430 Let's look up G skill, try that Z box. 2046 02:22:00,698 --> 02:22:01,443 Look at this. 2047 02:22:01,443 --> 02:22:09,217 Now think the distinguishing factor is that some of these companies say up to certain speeds, which I think changes things. 2048 02:22:09,358 --> 02:22:09,965 Yeah. 2049 02:22:09,965 --> 02:22:15,941 to do because then you have uh the argument that you could say, it's up to. 2050 02:22:15,941 --> 02:22:21,117 So it could be in a range between these, but it can go up to this if you do this. 2051 02:22:21,117 --> 02:22:27,923 But if it's on the box where it just has the one singular speed, then yeah, it is false advertising. 2052 02:22:29,005 --> 02:22:33,418 Yeah, so honestly, man, it's kind of an interesting situation. 2053 02:22:33,499 --> 02:22:42,525 Some argue that the same could apply to monitors as well, because quote unquote out of the box, your high refresh rate monitors are only running at 60 hertz. 2054 02:22:42,646 --> 02:22:50,151 Where you have to go into Windows to change the settings of your monitor to actually run at 144 hertz, right? 2055 02:22:51,873 --> 02:23:01,187 Yeah, that one might be a little bit more complicated because the panel itself could be uh like, let's say, a 144 Hertz panel. 2056 02:23:01,187 --> 02:23:07,739 It could be a 144 Hertz panel, but it can have a range of refresh rates that it starts at. 2057 02:23:07,879 --> 02:23:12,421 So that one's a little bit more tough, I would say. 2058 02:23:13,855 --> 02:23:16,774 be an interesting can of worms that this lawsuit might open up. 2059 02:23:16,774 --> 02:23:18,836 There's no telling what will happen. 2060 02:23:18,836 --> 02:23:24,080 all of it could be avoided by just adding the up to wording on the box. 2061 02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:25,021 That's it. 2062 02:23:25,709 --> 02:23:27,388 Yeah, I think it could be. 2063 02:23:28,099 --> 02:23:28,839 But we sh- 2064 02:23:28,839 --> 02:23:39,276 think that they could have had an argument if they had like the XMP, even just those three letters, if they had that like at the bottom of like the speed. 2065 02:23:39,276 --> 02:23:45,349 So like where it said like 3,600, uh just right underneath it just says XMP. 2066 02:23:45,398 --> 02:23:47,891 You know, to me that's even more clear. 2067 02:23:47,891 --> 02:23:54,995 But saying Intel XMP certified, that could mean so many things for people that don't know. 2068 02:23:55,056 --> 02:23:57,277 So I think it is false advertising. 2069 02:23:58,383 --> 02:24:00,023 That's fair enough. 2070 02:24:00,423 --> 02:24:01,843 James, you any thoughts on this? 2071 02:24:03,544 --> 02:24:04,597 Nothing at all. 2072 02:24:04,597 --> 02:24:05,328 nothing really. 2073 02:24:05,328 --> 02:24:08,180 Like I think it's false advertising. 2074 02:24:08,180 --> 02:24:13,783 I think if any other company was doing the exact same thing, they need to get dinged to not just Corsair. 2075 02:24:13,783 --> 02:24:22,608 ah And I wanted to see more companies that try to embellish things get punished for it. 2076 02:24:22,608 --> 02:24:24,289 I really don't like embellishments. 2077 02:24:24,289 --> 02:24:25,069 So. 2078 02:24:25,187 --> 02:24:26,017 Yeah. 2079 02:24:27,119 --> 02:24:30,023 Again, it's not even that hard. 2080 02:24:30,023 --> 02:24:32,045 Like, just put up to. 2081 02:24:32,045 --> 02:24:33,787 Like, it's really not difficult. 2082 02:24:33,787 --> 02:24:45,491 It's just, you know, they need to be held accountable and make it clear that, you know, what you're getting needs a little bit more work to actually hit what they're advertising. 2083 02:24:46,213 --> 02:24:49,260 I don't think the 5.5 million is going to do much either. 2084 02:24:49,713 --> 02:24:52,048 I think that's a cost of doing business for them. 2085 02:24:52,769 --> 02:24:54,513 And all the lawyers are get all money anyways. 2086 02:24:54,513 --> 02:24:58,999 All the people that have supposedly been wronged by Corsair aren't getting shit. 2087 02:24:58,999 --> 02:25:00,113 They're getting like 2088 02:25:00,113 --> 02:25:01,843 if it's a three years thing. 2089 02:25:02,415 --> 02:25:08,475 Yeah, anyway, so there were some things I wanted to talk about since Gardner was a developer himself. 2090 02:25:08,475 --> 02:25:09,915 Like, for example, you can look. 2091 02:25:09,915 --> 02:25:19,175 So there was this tool that Valve added to the Steamworks that lets you look at the impact that each like discount period did. 2092 02:25:19,175 --> 02:25:22,555 It tells you how many copies were sold during like a certain period. 2093 02:25:22,555 --> 02:25:23,275 Yada, yada, yada. 2094 02:25:23,275 --> 02:25:24,175 Right. 2095 02:25:24,555 --> 02:25:25,195 It's good stuff. 2096 02:25:25,195 --> 02:25:31,735 Like, I don't know what game this is, but you can see here that like they had this 40 % off price before. 2097 02:25:32,109 --> 02:25:44,836 they sold but they sold less next time yeah because more people obviously have that game right yeah I want to talk about this gardeners not here though so it'll be useful yeah so 2098 02:25:44,836 --> 02:25:55,091 this will be good this is good information oh here's something though steam ending 32-bit support next year for Windows 2099 02:25:56,645 --> 02:25:59,685 Yeah, it's bound to happen. 2100 02:26:00,425 --> 02:26:05,789 I think most OSes are moving away from 32-bit anyway, so. 2101 02:26:05,859 --> 02:26:14,613 I realistically, I can't think of a single person that actively plays games and still has a 32-bit operating system. 2102 02:26:14,661 --> 02:26:15,581 Yeah. 2103 02:26:16,600 --> 02:26:20,007 Now, this doesn't mean you can't run 32-bit games. 2104 02:26:20,007 --> 02:26:24,729 It just means Steam itself won't work on 32-bit systems. 2105 02:26:24,729 --> 02:26:31,934 Yeah, I just I think at this point 32-bit systems are becoming obsolete. 2106 02:26:31,934 --> 02:26:40,630 every new iteration of OS that I see in every new device that is being shipped does not have 32-bit OS on it. 2107 02:26:40,630 --> 02:26:48,945 So I think this is just bound to happen just like how Steam ending older versions of Mac OS. 2108 02:26:50,703 --> 02:26:52,763 Yeah, that's totally valid. 2109 02:26:53,063 --> 02:27:02,643 Honestly, I mean, mean, honestly, just move the Linux, to be honest, because I mean, Windows 10 is ending support in October. 2110 02:27:02,643 --> 02:27:05,829 We'll talk more about it closer to when that happens, but. 2111 02:27:05,829 --> 02:27:11,695 Yeah, but like how else are you going to play all your Call of Duty games if they end if you move over to Linux? 2112 02:27:11,695 --> 02:27:14,395 I'll just play on my Xbox, duh. 2113 02:27:14,935 --> 02:27:16,526 On my $800 Xbox. 2114 02:27:16,526 --> 02:27:19,621 but I guess not Linux. 2115 02:27:20,239 --> 02:27:23,879 Yeah, Linux definitely is not an Xbox, unfortunately. 2116 02:27:24,779 --> 02:27:26,179 Shame, shame, shame. 2117 02:27:26,555 --> 02:27:31,296 I mean, you can still stream game pass, right? 2118 02:27:31,296 --> 02:27:33,162 Yeah, you can, actually. 2119 02:27:33,888 --> 02:27:34,965 Yeah, I could- 2120 02:27:34,965 --> 02:27:38,179 at Xbox, because you can stream it about from anywhere. 2121 02:27:38,179 --> 02:27:40,099 That's why my phone's an Xbox. 2122 02:27:40,494 --> 02:27:45,542 But if you don't have a connection anywhere, you now don't have an Xbox. 2123 02:27:47,286 --> 02:27:53,977 When I'm on my plane traveling to Tokyo, my Steam Deck is now no longer an Xbox. 2124 02:27:54,509 --> 02:27:58,174 Yeah, well, you know, that's what you get for getting an online-only Xbox. 2125 02:27:59,993 --> 02:28:02,206 Yeah, I deserve that. 2126 02:28:02,991 --> 02:28:07,309 You should have named yourself online-only Xbox HQ. 2127 02:28:07,855 --> 02:28:11,578 We really are going all in to change the name. 2128 02:28:14,748 --> 02:28:16,383 Well, I mean it could be worse. 2129 02:28:16,383 --> 02:28:18,818 could be truck HQ. 2130 02:28:19,987 --> 02:28:20,837 God. 2131 02:28:21,837 --> 02:28:26,431 I still, I still, I still have my own work, my own. 2132 02:28:26,431 --> 02:28:28,912 Oh yeah. 2133 02:28:28,912 --> 02:28:33,705 That, that I could see trucks revealed sounds much cooler than trucks HQ. 2134 02:28:33,935 --> 02:28:38,580 uh But yes, this is called... 2135 02:28:38,781 --> 02:28:41,423 Tell us about it, since this is the one you submitted. 2136 02:28:41,423 --> 02:28:43,685 This is what I submitted and it's more for fun. 2137 02:28:43,685 --> 02:28:57,485 Honestly, like it deviates from a lot of what we talk about, but I love the idea of at least the article I read on this claimed that it's gonna be partially open sourced. 2138 02:28:57,485 --> 02:29:02,068 I don't think you can mess with the drivetrain or the software for the drivetrain. 2139 02:29:02,068 --> 02:29:09,213 And I think that's probably for legal reasons, but everything else is moddable and ah you can. 2140 02:29:09,391 --> 02:29:13,823 you can get kits for it or when you buy it, you can get it kitted out like as an SUV. 2141 02:29:13,823 --> 02:29:23,767 ah You can have it, you can put like these vinyl uh over it to make it colored. 2142 02:29:23,767 --> 02:29:32,431 It's meant to be a really like cheap electric vehicle for people to, I guess, have fun with per se. 2143 02:29:32,431 --> 02:29:38,133 I think as things get more expensive, to see something be 2144 02:29:38,351 --> 02:29:52,345 a little bit more affordable ah as a vehicle that, you know, that's also, and I think electric's important for the environment too, ah that this is a cool direction, even if it 2145 02:29:52,345 --> 02:29:55,326 is Jeff Bezos uh funded thing. 2146 02:29:55,326 --> 02:30:07,349 ah it is, I'll be interested to see what kits come out aftermarket for this, because that's like with Jeep and I recently got a Kia, ah 2147 02:30:07,494 --> 02:30:11,040 like you can get aftermarket stuff for them to modify them. 2148 02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:18,572 um This will be even more interesting to see ah what's capable. 2149 02:30:18,572 --> 02:30:19,293 Amen. 2150 02:30:19,293 --> 02:30:23,608 Jeff Bezos can throw as much money as he wants into here as long as he gets no say in what happens. 2151 02:30:23,608 --> 02:30:25,470 Him or him and Amazon. 2152 02:30:26,024 --> 02:30:27,330 I agree with that. 2153 02:30:27,438 --> 02:30:28,093 And so. 2154 02:30:28,093 --> 02:30:36,300 don't understand is you've called this an open source truck and I have trouble seeing anything outside of software as open source. 2155 02:30:36,941 --> 02:30:43,527 Wouldn't this be still pretty clearly classified as like modular? 2156 02:30:43,687 --> 02:30:46,029 Couldn't you say this is just a modular car? 2157 02:30:46,393 --> 02:30:47,593 it's a modular car. 2158 02:30:47,593 --> 02:30:51,853 I'm assuming the software too can be modified. 2159 02:30:52,973 --> 02:30:58,279 Once again, I read an article on this and I don't remember exactly, if they 2160 02:30:58,279 --> 02:31:09,819 I'm not saying it's not in the spirit of open source, but it's just, I have trouble calling something open source that is not software because open source has always been 2161 02:31:09,819 --> 02:31:11,228 synonymous with software. 2162 02:31:11,228 --> 02:31:13,474 that's a part of this. 2163 02:31:14,700 --> 02:31:15,227 Yeah. 2164 02:31:15,227 --> 02:31:18,427 like modify and like redistribute 3D prints. 2165 02:31:18,906 --> 02:31:24,219 Yeah, but that's not the same as a truck itself being open source or a physical object itself. 2166 02:31:24,219 --> 02:31:28,785 think you can, you'd probably be able to 3D print potentially stuff for this. 2167 02:31:28,785 --> 02:31:30,567 That's my kind of my point is that. 2168 02:31:30,567 --> 02:31:31,659 ah 2169 02:31:31,659 --> 02:31:33,326 3D print a truck. 2170 02:31:34,449 --> 02:31:47,098 It is modular, uh you can have an open source game and have it be modded, I guess, if you want to say it that. 2171 02:31:48,059 --> 02:31:59,567 the point is, I don't think there's any licensing behind this that you can't change, where if you buy a car, you might get in a lot of trouble if you try to modify the car to pass a 2172 02:31:59,567 --> 02:32:00,847 certain point. 2173 02:32:01,008 --> 02:32:02,968 John Deere's a great example. 2174 02:32:03,907 --> 02:32:15,607 like the right to repair is not a thing with John Deere, except for I think in one state, you have to get your John Deere tractors repaired through the company. 2175 02:32:16,088 --> 02:32:18,870 Because the licensing and everything is so tight. 2176 02:32:18,890 --> 02:32:25,695 The point of this is that it's very open licensing, including between software and everything else. 2177 02:32:25,776 --> 02:32:31,961 Yes, it's modular, but beyond that, if people want to tinker with it, which that's very interesting to me. 2178 02:32:32,039 --> 02:32:37,560 that has modified my, like I've modified my Steam Deck about every single way you can. 2179 02:32:37,560 --> 02:32:42,499 um And I want to do that to my truck now. 2180 02:32:42,499 --> 02:32:44,783 I want to embed my Steam Deck into my truck. 2181 02:32:44,901 --> 02:32:48,524 then wouldn't you consider it, would the Steam Deck be considered open source? 2182 02:32:49,595 --> 02:32:52,357 Yes, portions of it are open source. 2183 02:32:53,266 --> 02:32:56,123 It becomes so much more complicated at that point. 2184 02:32:56,206 --> 02:32:58,067 It gets more complicated. 2185 02:32:58,388 --> 02:32:59,407 It's a blanket statement. 2186 02:32:59,407 --> 02:33:01,611 I'm not saying the whole truck itself is open source. 2187 02:33:01,611 --> 02:33:03,652 I'm saying portions of it. 2188 02:33:04,994 --> 02:33:06,876 That's what I called it for simplicity. 2189 02:33:06,876 --> 02:33:08,096 It's just fun. 2190 02:33:08,190 --> 02:33:10,099 but that's what I'm going off of. 2191 02:33:10,099 --> 02:33:11,965 That's all I know about it. 2192 02:33:12,741 --> 02:33:14,491 And so, um 2193 02:33:14,491 --> 02:33:19,199 Gardner, if Gardner were here he could tell us if it's open source or not for realsies. 2194 02:33:20,522 --> 02:33:21,334 I like the little... 2195 02:33:21,334 --> 02:33:22,434 what you're saying. 2196 02:33:22,434 --> 02:33:29,834 If there's no license involved, then you can really go all in with exactly how you want to build it, what software you want to use and all that. 2197 02:33:29,854 --> 02:33:34,034 But to me, that's just a truck or that's a modular car. 2198 02:33:34,034 --> 02:33:40,074 You're building it from the ground up, able to use whatever you want to to build it. 2199 02:33:40,914 --> 02:33:42,545 And yeah. 2200 02:33:42,545 --> 02:33:43,658 a truck though. 2201 02:33:43,761 --> 02:33:50,026 So if they offer the designs and the specs and stuff so you can um do it yourself, that's open source. 2202 02:33:50,026 --> 02:33:58,223 When they open source, let's say the designs of the truck, that's what I think it is. 2203 02:33:58,223 --> 02:34:08,943 But once again, I read about this a few months ago and then I saw it recently again and so I wanted to bring it up just for fun and I was hoping Gartner was here, but yeah. 2204 02:34:08,943 --> 02:34:12,025 And calling it an open source truck sounds funny. 2205 02:34:13,847 --> 02:34:24,585 see so let's design our dream truck our off the console truck see doing what 2206 02:34:26,256 --> 02:34:29,120 I don't want a partial wrap, I want to fully wrap my car. 2207 02:34:31,079 --> 02:34:33,784 So yeah, like a big part of it's modular. 2208 02:34:33,784 --> 02:34:35,029 um 2209 02:34:36,655 --> 02:34:39,418 Modular absolutely makes sense to me in this case. 2210 02:34:39,418 --> 02:34:45,545 doors holy oh shit dude that's dude that's kind of funny i don't 2211 02:34:45,545 --> 02:34:48,625 I guess it's up to you. 2212 02:34:48,745 --> 02:34:53,945 So is this you just choosing all the parts and then they build it or do you build it yourself? 2213 02:34:53,945 --> 02:34:55,613 They ship you all the parts. 2214 02:34:56,623 --> 02:34:57,977 That's a good question. 2215 02:34:57,977 --> 02:35:01,397 from my understanding, you can do both. 2216 02:35:01,497 --> 02:35:07,077 if you're getting it from the manufacturer, you can get it specked out however you want. 2217 02:35:07,077 --> 02:35:11,277 And then when you get it, I think you can also get conversion kits and stuff like that. 2218 02:35:11,397 --> 02:35:14,657 And so aftermarket is gonna be another big deal with this. 2219 02:35:14,657 --> 02:35:26,613 so you can get aftermarket stuff for the Jeep and all that, but if the designs are shared and if other aspects, like the software is open source, then it's, you know, it's... 2220 02:35:26,786 --> 02:35:29,771 got additional ways to modify it. 2221 02:35:30,308 --> 02:35:34,662 Yeah, that's just, it's a full on modular car at that point. 2222 02:35:35,504 --> 02:35:42,811 Especially if you're able to change it out yourself whenever you want to and buy kits to change it on your own. 2223 02:35:43,192 --> 02:35:47,857 That is the spirit of modular building, I guess. 2224 02:35:48,355 --> 02:36:03,081 I do like that uh you can actually swap put your own speakers in here and wire them up wire mama if so desired because car speakers aren't super what's the word I'm for well not 2225 02:36:03,081 --> 02:36:09,943 just that but they're also not super like accessible to mod so to speak 2226 02:36:10,381 --> 02:36:13,925 Yeah, because you know, everyone wants to mod their speakers. 2227 02:36:13,925 --> 02:36:15,753 That's the first thought that we have. 2228 02:36:17,603 --> 02:36:20,505 If you're a truck enthusiast, or if you're like an enthusiast... 2229 02:36:20,943 --> 02:36:23,925 Yeah, I'm definitely not in the enthusiast category. 2230 02:36:23,925 --> 02:36:25,712 Can I change the design of the handles? 2231 02:36:25,712 --> 02:36:27,407 I don't like those handles. 2232 02:36:27,407 --> 02:36:28,691 What, this one? 2233 02:36:29,340 --> 02:36:30,181 Like the- 2234 02:36:30,181 --> 02:36:31,445 to open the door. 2235 02:36:32,313 --> 02:36:34,127 Let find, let me see if we can do that. 2236 02:36:34,127 --> 02:36:35,983 uh Door cubby? 2237 02:36:35,983 --> 02:36:36,543 No. 2238 02:36:36,543 --> 02:36:38,111 uh 2239 02:36:38,111 --> 02:36:41,387 part that we just found that we can't actually change? 2240 02:36:41,885 --> 02:36:47,475 So like here's one of the articles, Slate lets you personalize your pickup truck with open source 3D printed parts. 2241 02:36:47,476 --> 02:36:48,072 So yeah. 2242 02:36:48,072 --> 02:36:49,206 sense to me. 2243 02:36:50,159 --> 02:37:01,165 Well, I mentioned earlier that the designs that the stuff that you can are open source and so like 3D printed or if you get it, Manufac... 2244 02:37:02,328 --> 02:37:03,249 Yeah. 2245 02:37:03,411 --> 02:37:04,322 of what it is. 2246 02:37:04,322 --> 02:37:06,625 Just that's why I was confused. 2247 02:37:06,745 --> 02:37:07,617 Huh. 2248 02:37:07,903 --> 02:37:09,976 I guess you can't change the door handle. 2249 02:37:09,976 --> 02:37:10,629 That's weird. 2250 02:37:10,629 --> 02:37:12,128 What real shame. 2251 02:37:12,329 --> 02:37:26,553 you can't change it here, you could uh probably, if you had, man, I don't know if I'd want to 3D print too much of my truck, but, ah actually, yeah. 2252 02:37:29,014 --> 02:37:29,764 Yeah, you could. 2253 02:37:29,764 --> 02:37:39,417 It's still, like with 3D printing, I guess if you print it really fine, it won't show up too much, because you can tell what's been 3D printed and what's not. 2254 02:37:39,657 --> 02:37:44,323 Usually like molding, cast molding is usually the way that you'd want to do it. 2255 02:37:44,323 --> 02:37:53,683 But I guess you could, like if they give you the designs and stuff like that and you know what you're doing in like AutoCAD or whatever it is, like you're going to use the modify 2256 02:37:53,683 --> 02:37:57,307 the 3D designs, you could make whatever you want for this. 2257 02:37:57,519 --> 02:37:58,191 Mm-hmm. 2258 02:37:58,191 --> 02:38:00,494 Let's look at the charging port for this bad boy. 2259 02:38:00,494 --> 02:38:05,729 So it looks like it only takes like a normal 120 volt, uh US standard. 2260 02:38:05,981 --> 02:38:08,235 I guarantee it works with 240, yeah, right there. 2261 02:38:08,235 --> 02:38:09,159 have a T40 version. 2262 02:38:09,159 --> 02:38:11,187 480 if you think about it. 2263 02:38:11,752 --> 02:38:13,315 And also look. 2264 02:38:13,315 --> 02:38:14,611 crazy 2265 02:38:15,095 --> 02:38:18,170 It's great that it's accessible for all of them. 2266 02:38:18,170 --> 02:38:21,033 Crazy that it's accessible with the 120 volt. 2267 02:38:22,015 --> 02:38:26,771 I would think 240 and 480 for sure, but 120, that's got to be way too low. 2268 02:38:26,831 --> 02:38:29,467 We'll see you slate, Otto. 2269 02:38:30,210 --> 02:38:31,112 It trickles. 2270 02:38:31,112 --> 02:38:33,838 can charge most cars with 120. 2271 02:38:33,838 --> 02:38:35,461 It just takes a while. 2272 02:38:35,993 --> 02:38:38,004 But that's the thing, it takes a while. 2273 02:38:38,329 --> 02:38:40,490 So it's supposed to be... 2274 02:38:41,207 --> 02:38:42,692 120 grand. 2275 02:38:42,692 --> 02:38:45,334 And for a new truck, that's insane. 2276 02:38:45,795 --> 02:38:48,097 Like, trucks are like double the price usually. 2277 02:38:48,097 --> 02:38:49,738 If not more than double, I think. 2278 02:38:49,738 --> 02:38:51,489 I'm not really a truck person. 2279 02:38:51,494 --> 02:38:56,438 I can almost guarantee you, it's gonna be between 20 and 30,000 depending on how you spec it out. 2280 02:38:56,879 --> 02:38:58,953 I don't think it's gonna be under 20. 2281 02:38:59,781 --> 02:39:04,515 So it depends on how you spec it out, but it will probably start around 20,000. 2282 02:39:04,515 --> 02:39:16,090 Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you just need a truck that functions, and you don't really care about speakers and shit, plus you can probably just buy a- or an SUV. 2283 02:39:16,090 --> 02:39:16,711 the conversion. 2284 02:39:16,711 --> 02:39:20,746 Like you can get the conversion so you can have four seats, four or five seats, probably five seats. 2285 02:39:20,746 --> 02:39:24,249 That's really good in this economy. 2286 02:39:24,419 --> 02:39:31,573 Dude, yeah, this is- this is- this might be something, cause like, this is A, a cheap EV, like EVs are not cheap. 2287 02:39:31,942 --> 02:39:33,685 Now let's see how much the price increased. 2288 02:39:33,685 --> 02:39:37,957 I mean, the article is literally talking about how the $20,000 price 2289 02:39:37,957 --> 02:39:38,669 pricing yet. 2290 02:39:38,669 --> 02:39:41,435 So when you spec it out, you don't know. 2291 02:39:41,938 --> 02:39:43,423 You won't know, but you can... 2292 02:39:43,423 --> 02:39:47,209 about how it may have gone up because of the tariffs, basically. 2293 02:39:48,392 --> 02:39:49,366 yeah. 2294 02:39:49,614 --> 02:39:53,699 It's talking about like, could be a victim of Trump's bill. 2295 02:39:55,739 --> 02:39:59,350 Yeah, I mean, anything is everything is almost. 2296 02:39:59,350 --> 02:40:05,752 um I was really hoping Gardner would I want to bring this up later with Gardner, because I'm like. 2297 02:40:06,932 --> 02:40:13,914 If the software is to also open source, because it's not released, if it was released, I could give you so much more info on this. 2298 02:40:13,914 --> 02:40:25,005 But if everything's if it's the most open source truck or car, like software and the models, the three models for it, I think Gardner could have a heyday with this. 2299 02:40:25,005 --> 02:40:35,225 Hey, and some other company, some third party company could make like a conversion kit for like other types of smaller cars too, like a sports car almost. 2300 02:40:35,225 --> 02:40:41,143 I'm not sure if the engine's up to spec for that, something like that, but like, could be interesting. 2301 02:40:41,143 --> 02:40:42,425 one motor. 2302 02:40:42,627 --> 02:40:47,318 People want a two motor and the range is not over. 2303 02:40:47,680 --> 02:40:48,753 I think it's a small battery. 2304 02:40:48,753 --> 02:40:50,005 It's like 100. 2305 02:40:52,061 --> 02:40:56,761 40 mile battery, but I think you can get an extension on that. 2306 02:40:56,761 --> 02:41:01,559 Like you can get an extended version for 200 and something like that, which. 2307 02:41:01,559 --> 02:41:04,928 first thing I would mod, getting a bigger battery, to be honest. 2308 02:41:05,221 --> 02:41:06,390 Yeah, that's fair. 2309 02:41:07,855 --> 02:41:13,230 I'd get something like this for around town because I already have a car that's for long distance traveling. 2310 02:41:13,230 --> 02:41:14,613 I'd get this for around town. 2311 02:41:14,797 --> 02:41:15,735 Yeah, I mean... 2312 02:41:15,735 --> 02:41:17,590 I just don't have a car right now. 2313 02:41:18,479 --> 02:41:21,899 Hey man, I don't know if they'll ship this to... 2314 02:41:21,899 --> 02:41:23,399 You live in Malaysia now, right? 2315 02:41:23,399 --> 02:41:24,479 If I'm mistaken? 2316 02:41:24,665 --> 02:41:27,530 I'm not even going to correct you, I'm just going to be disappointed. 2317 02:41:27,951 --> 02:41:32,044 Oh no. 2318 02:41:32,789 --> 02:41:33,951 Singapore. 2319 02:41:34,013 --> 02:41:34,901 In a m- 2320 02:41:35,408 --> 02:41:36,971 Very disappointed. 2321 02:41:36,975 --> 02:41:37,884 Thailand. 2322 02:41:38,885 --> 02:41:42,005 You're so, you're, you know. 2323 02:41:44,869 --> 02:41:46,684 You don't have to keep guessing. 2324 02:41:46,684 --> 02:41:47,808 It's okay. 2325 02:41:48,015 --> 02:41:48,903 Ah. 2326 02:41:49,496 --> 02:41:50,372 you 2327 02:41:52,709 --> 02:41:56,189 I was going to say third time's the charm, but you did get it wrong three times. 2328 02:41:56,985 --> 02:41:58,212 Hahaha 2329 02:41:59,362 --> 02:41:59,825 well. 2330 02:41:59,825 --> 02:42:01,987 ahead, take one more guess. 2331 02:42:03,299 --> 02:42:07,009 Well now you gotta be nervous man Cambodia 2332 02:42:07,009 --> 02:42:08,891 passed the point of no return, so I mean... 2333 02:42:08,891 --> 02:42:12,195 It's okay, my disappointment's already hit p. 2334 02:42:12,979 --> 02:42:16,557 Your disappointment is immeasurable and your day is ruined. 2335 02:42:16,887 --> 02:42:17,808 Yeah. 2336 02:42:17,989 --> 02:42:23,677 So you can guess a fourth time and maybe you'll get it right, but it won't make me more disappointed if you get it wrong. 2337 02:42:24,954 --> 02:42:26,081 Cambodia. 2338 02:42:27,257 --> 02:42:28,123 Man. 2339 02:42:29,512 --> 02:42:31,553 He said you had your board. 2340 02:42:31,553 --> 02:42:33,671 I think you knew that was not it. 2341 02:42:36,079 --> 02:42:36,749 Ugh. 2342 02:42:36,749 --> 02:42:39,370 So if you guys hear me, like if. 2343 02:42:39,370 --> 02:42:40,787 a guess of where I live. 2344 02:42:43,033 --> 02:42:44,275 He lives in Asia. 2345 02:42:44,775 --> 02:42:47,549 I was gonna guess Malaysia. 2346 02:42:47,549 --> 02:42:52,295 Cause you did mention the last time that you were on where you were. 2347 02:42:52,356 --> 02:42:53,527 And I don't 2348 02:42:54,319 --> 02:42:54,841 Come on. 2349 02:42:54,841 --> 02:42:59,106 He, he, hi tech basically circled the drain. 2350 02:42:59,109 --> 02:43:00,088 You just have to. 2351 02:43:00,088 --> 02:43:02,083 it's it's it's over there 2352 02:43:02,083 --> 02:43:03,474 Yeah, come on. 2353 02:43:03,516 --> 02:43:05,419 I know it's on the tip of your tongue. 2354 02:43:05,419 --> 02:43:06,920 I know you know it. 2355 02:43:08,124 --> 02:43:09,357 I believe in you. 2356 02:43:09,357 --> 02:43:12,109 Yes, I think I'm yes. 2357 02:43:12,813 --> 02:43:16,288 I can imagine it, can't. 2358 02:43:16,288 --> 02:43:17,487 Dude, my brain's broken. 2359 02:43:17,487 --> 02:43:19,029 It starts with an I, I think. 2360 02:43:20,197 --> 02:43:20,760 Instable. 2361 02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:22,808 No, I'm just kidding. 2362 02:43:22,808 --> 02:43:24,452 It's not Indonesia. 2363 02:43:26,361 --> 02:43:33,696 Man, it is so disappointing that the one thing you said it's not is what it actually is. 2364 02:43:33,753 --> 02:43:35,399 It isn't. 2365 02:43:35,399 --> 02:43:36,941 Is it Indonesia? 2366 02:43:38,013 --> 02:43:39,569 Oh, I thought it was. 2367 02:43:40,533 --> 02:43:41,298 I. 2368 02:43:41,298 --> 02:43:41,620 you said. 2369 02:43:41,620 --> 02:43:43,595 You're like, oh no, it can't be that. 2370 02:43:45,241 --> 02:43:48,407 What other Asian country starts with an I? 2371 02:43:49,309 --> 02:43:50,411 Uh... 2372 02:43:51,009 --> 02:43:52,359 I don't know. 2373 02:43:52,663 --> 02:43:53,382 Italy? 2374 02:43:53,382 --> 02:43:54,353 we go. 2375 02:43:55,520 --> 02:43:59,281 My favorite Asian country to travel to Italy. 2376 02:44:01,379 --> 02:44:02,249 Yeah. 2377 02:44:02,771 --> 02:44:07,368 Man, I don't know how to feel anymore. 2378 02:44:07,368 --> 02:44:11,294 Like, Hi Tech, you knew it. 2379 02:44:11,294 --> 02:44:14,680 You circled it with every single one of your guesses. 2380 02:44:14,680 --> 02:44:17,143 And James, my man. 2381 02:44:18,107 --> 02:44:18,799 I got it. 2382 02:44:18,799 --> 02:44:20,861 I just was sure it wasn't it. 2383 02:44:23,648 --> 02:44:24,829 I know, but it still said it. 2384 02:44:24,829 --> 02:44:26,649 ah 2385 02:44:26,649 --> 02:44:29,558 were also confident that it wasn't what you said. 2386 02:44:30,464 --> 02:44:33,578 wrong he was throwing out a wrong answer is what he thought 2387 02:44:33,578 --> 02:44:36,530 in this truck that I will probably blow up when I get it. 2388 02:44:36,530 --> 02:44:40,463 So if you see me dead in the news, it's probably because I mod this thing too much. 2389 02:44:40,463 --> 02:44:43,716 Be careful, it is open source. 2390 02:44:43,957 --> 02:44:48,421 So you gotta make sure that you're using the right open source 3D parts. 2391 02:44:49,263 --> 02:44:53,243 Dude, are you gonna install Arch on this uh, you gonna install Arch on this uh, truck? 2392 02:44:53,807 --> 02:44:58,921 Arch, depends on how the whole thing's modded and everything. 2393 02:44:58,921 --> 02:45:01,443 I'm gonna make it so that Steam Deck runs the whole thing. 2394 02:45:01,443 --> 02:45:03,635 I'll mod the drive train too. 2395 02:45:03,635 --> 02:45:08,443 I'll mod everything they say not to and make it so that the Steam Deck is running it. 2396 02:45:08,443 --> 02:45:10,989 your steam back gonna be your steering wheel? 2397 02:45:11,313 --> 02:45:13,250 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 2398 02:45:13,250 --> 02:45:14,121 be really cool. 2399 02:45:14,121 --> 02:45:17,277 it all from your steering wheel and the steering wheels, the steam does. 2400 02:45:18,287 --> 02:45:24,515 Should he make it actually connect to his drivetrain or should he just make it gyro and just kind of hope the gyro works? 2401 02:45:25,017 --> 02:45:25,887 my gosh. 2402 02:45:25,887 --> 02:45:26,240 No. 2403 02:45:26,240 --> 02:45:26,981 uh 2404 02:45:26,981 --> 02:45:29,912 gyro driving with a steam deck. 2405 02:45:29,912 --> 02:45:35,135 Yeah, that sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen. 2406 02:45:35,135 --> 02:45:36,145 You think you'll blow up? 2407 02:45:36,145 --> 02:45:39,837 No, try gyro driving a car with a steam deck. 2408 02:45:40,515 --> 02:45:45,231 Yeah man, I can barely jido drive a Mario Kart, much less a real car. 2409 02:45:45,231 --> 02:45:46,662 Imagine that shit. 2410 02:45:46,662 --> 02:45:47,503 now. 2411 02:45:47,687 --> 02:45:50,109 So think about that. 2412 02:45:50,109 --> 02:45:56,189 You think if I got my numbers up again on YouTube, like they would send me a truck to review? 2413 02:45:57,169 --> 02:45:59,269 I think it's only like $20,000. 2414 02:45:59,652 --> 02:46:00,593 That's a lot of mo- 2415 02:46:00,593 --> 02:46:02,673 a casual $20,000. 2416 02:46:02,673 --> 02:46:03,533 Yeah, of course. 2417 02:46:03,533 --> 02:46:05,509 Yeah, man, as long as it plays. 2418 02:46:05,509 --> 02:46:08,589 Hey, over $20,000. 2419 02:46:08,589 --> 02:46:10,530 Those tariffs are going to hit it. 2420 02:46:10,530 --> 02:46:11,101 Now hear me out. 2421 02:46:11,101 --> 02:46:13,214 What if you modded it so that the controller... 2422 02:46:13,214 --> 02:46:15,992 so that the car controls whatever... 2423 02:46:15,992 --> 02:46:17,341 kind of like how Tesla does it now. 2424 02:46:17,341 --> 02:46:22,057 You can play certain racing games with the actual Tesla steering wheel. 2425 02:46:22,436 --> 02:46:25,755 Yeah, well my steering wheel is going to be a clip in Steam Deck, so. 2426 02:46:26,765 --> 02:46:28,800 and it's gotta be gyro controls. 2427 02:46:29,633 --> 02:46:31,200 Yeah, it- it- yeah. 2428 02:46:31,200 --> 02:46:34,513 on if you put your fingers over the joysticks. 2429 02:46:34,834 --> 02:46:35,665 If it activates. 2430 02:46:35,665 --> 02:46:38,017 Oh my gosh. 2431 02:46:38,658 --> 02:46:40,415 I know, I'd die. 2432 02:46:40,415 --> 02:46:43,241 completely shut off and if you're on the road, good luck. 2433 02:46:43,629 --> 02:46:45,044 Yo, imagine trying to like- 2434 02:46:45,044 --> 02:46:46,748 just, you can't steer it anymore. 2435 02:46:46,748 --> 02:46:48,186 It just goes straight. 2436 02:46:48,195 --> 02:46:52,799 Yeah, I mean by shut off, but obviously the wheels don't like lock up. 2437 02:46:53,945 --> 02:46:54,837 Okay. 2438 02:46:56,155 --> 02:46:58,475 Also, the next Fest is coming up soon. 2439 02:46:58,935 --> 02:47:00,975 I forget to mention that before we close out this episode. 2440 02:47:00,975 --> 02:47:02,435 Any final thoughts? 2441 02:47:03,826 --> 02:47:05,329 Uh, steam? 2442 02:47:05,329 --> 02:47:07,693 Make your own- Make your own truck. 2443 02:47:07,855 --> 02:47:09,979 All around the steam deck. 2444 02:47:10,321 --> 02:47:12,595 Steam uh powered truck. 2445 02:47:12,812 --> 02:47:17,995 Well, you know Steam was gonna be in the Tesla, but then they stopped supporting that. 2446 02:47:18,555 --> 02:47:19,595 We never... 2447 02:47:20,736 --> 02:47:21,897 Yeah. 2448 02:47:21,897 --> 02:47:31,041 I never actually got to try that, sadly, because it was only in the Model X, I think it was, the expensive models, where you could play Steam games on there, which is 2449 02:47:31,041 --> 02:47:32,261 unfortunate. 2450 02:47:33,382 --> 02:47:34,866 Yeah, play Cyberpunk on a... 2451 02:47:34,866 --> 02:47:39,679 do you think you could drive in cyberpunk with the Tesla steering wheel? 2452 02:47:41,040 --> 02:47:41,826 Yeah. 2453 02:47:42,356 --> 02:47:44,529 Probably better than with a controller. 2454 02:47:46,051 --> 02:47:49,967 Yeah, I guess that would be my final thought. 2455 02:47:49,967 --> 02:47:51,949 Valve make a megatruck. 2456 02:47:52,531 --> 02:47:54,803 Or a steam-powered yacht. 2457 02:47:55,878 --> 02:47:57,972 You know what, Gabe, you have a lot of money. 2458 02:47:57,972 --> 02:48:03,695 You should just buy this uh slate truck company and truly make it open source. 2459 02:48:03,695 --> 02:48:04,948 yeah. 2460 02:48:04,948 --> 02:48:12,703 go a step, go a step further by the government and then stop the tariffs and then bring prices down. 2461 02:48:13,699 --> 02:48:16,977 did become President of the United States. 2462 02:48:17,401 --> 02:48:19,024 Become president of the United States. 2463 02:48:19,024 --> 02:48:22,932 Use all your money to become president of the United States. 2464 02:48:22,932 --> 02:48:30,199 Stop the tariffs and bring down prices of the slate truck back to under $20,000. 2465 02:48:30,199 --> 02:48:31,899 I don't see why it wouldn't work for Mr. 2466 02:48:31,899 --> 02:48:33,116 Gabe Newell himself. 2467 02:48:33,116 --> 02:48:34,516 I think he could do it. 2468 02:48:34,516 --> 02:48:41,336 The problem is, and I'd even look past all his yachts if he just let me ride on one. 2469 02:48:41,336 --> 02:48:42,379 I'd forgive him. 2470 02:48:42,379 --> 02:48:43,296 And what if- 2471 02:48:43,296 --> 02:48:46,907 even, hey, look, the man has worked hard. 2472 02:48:46,907 --> 02:48:49,651 I'm fine with him having as many yachts as he wants. 2473 02:48:49,651 --> 02:48:59,959 If that's what he wants to spend his exorbitant amount of money on, dude created one of the best PC DRMs in existence. 2474 02:49:00,780 --> 02:49:06,765 And that I think is the most user and consumer friendly based on its features. 2475 02:49:06,833 --> 02:49:19,367 Yeah, he spends his days dealing with his with his neuro uh neuro input company as well as just spending his days on his yacht playing dota 2. 2476 02:49:19,534 --> 02:49:28,610 his days, he wakes up, he goes diving, he then has his meeting and then he goes diving again and then he has more meetings and then he dives again. 2477 02:49:28,610 --> 02:49:32,269 Like he says he dives up to three times a day, so. 2478 02:49:32,269 --> 02:49:34,868 like dives in like the open waters? 2479 02:49:35,617 --> 02:49:36,618 Damn. 2480 02:49:37,205 --> 02:49:41,555 honestly, it should have been called Gabe the Diver, not Dave the Diver, so... 2481 02:49:43,414 --> 02:49:44,316 you 2482 02:49:44,317 --> 02:49:46,814 now that is an indie game right there. 2483 02:49:46,814 --> 02:49:51,449 I would have allowed Jeff Keighley to announce that as an indie game. 2484 02:49:51,449 --> 02:50:00,287 Hell, I would have let him announce Gabe the Diber as Indie Game of the Year 2. 2485 02:50:00,473 --> 02:50:03,689 Yeah, maybe even game of the year, completely. 2486 02:50:04,160 --> 02:50:05,497 I'm down, I'm down. 2487 02:50:05,497 --> 02:50:06,278 Yeah. 2488 02:50:07,443 --> 02:50:12,677 Gabe that scrap half life three, you know, your next game now. 2489 02:50:12,677 --> 02:50:13,479 No. 2490 02:50:14,135 --> 02:50:15,461 Dude, you can't say that. 2491 02:50:15,461 --> 02:50:17,228 You can't say that to the Half-Life faithful. 2492 02:50:17,228 --> 02:50:20,093 will take Gabe the Diver over Half-Life 3. 2493 02:50:22,581 --> 02:50:24,603 I'm just glad Gardener's not here. 2494 02:50:24,984 --> 02:50:27,927 He's been waiting his entire life for Half-Life 3. 2495 02:50:27,927 --> 02:50:30,881 a man wants, and a man wants Gabe the Diver. 2496 02:50:32,655 --> 02:50:34,825 I'm watching you email Gabe. 2497 02:50:34,825 --> 02:50:36,780 Tell him you want Gabe the Diver. 2498 02:50:38,117 --> 02:50:39,240 Alright, I'm on it. 2499 02:50:39,561 --> 02:50:40,523 Alright. 2500 02:50:40,729 --> 02:50:42,739 Ooh, this episode is... 2501 02:50:42,739 --> 02:50:44,884 I want to be on his yacht. 2502 02:50:45,288 --> 02:50:47,915 If he lets me on the yacht, I'll build Gabe the Diver for him. 2503 02:50:47,915 --> 02:50:52,968 send over an email specifically mention and can we just take a trip on your yacht. 2504 02:50:52,968 --> 02:50:53,575 Just one. 2505 02:50:53,575 --> 02:50:56,789 host an episode of Off the Console on your yacht. 2506 02:50:59,172 --> 02:51:03,789 Yeah, Gabe Newell as like a guest on this podcast would be kind of sick though. 2507 02:51:04,239 --> 02:51:08,087 Gabe Newell as a guest on any podcast would be pretty amazing. 2508 02:51:09,100 --> 02:51:16,662 He shows up on some podcasts too, but just not any of the smaller YouTube production ones. 2509 02:51:17,689 --> 02:51:20,355 Well yeah, but still pretty amazing. 2510 02:51:20,355 --> 02:51:22,079 Yeah, it would be pretty amazing. 2511 02:51:22,482 --> 02:51:24,609 We'd have to catch him mid-dive or something. 2512 02:51:24,609 --> 02:51:26,545 He'd probably be streaming from underwater. 2513 02:51:26,545 --> 02:51:28,298 go up to him while he's diving. 2514 02:51:28,298 --> 02:51:36,383 both in the water and you just hold up a microphone to him and have like a waterproof screen that just says off the console on it. 2515 02:51:37,133 --> 02:51:38,324 Yeah, that'll be awesome. 2516 02:51:38,324 --> 02:51:40,503 you said yes, I would find a way to do that. 2517 02:51:40,503 --> 02:51:48,915 yeah i think we should do it let's do it we got you only shoot you guys shoot your shot man he responds 2518 02:51:48,915 --> 02:51:54,197 in life and if it's gonna be while Gabe is diving, then you're gonna do it while Gabe is diving. 2519 02:51:56,233 --> 02:51:58,326 Anyways, this episode is approaching three hours. 2520 02:51:58,326 --> 02:52:00,999 It's going to be hard for Gardner to edit when he gets back. 2521 02:52:01,807 --> 02:52:02,741 Have fun. 2522 02:52:02,827 --> 02:52:05,641 Alright, have a good day everyone. 2523 02:52:05,641 --> 02:52:07,207 uh 2524 02:52:07,664 --> 02:52:08,422 Yo, we're out. 2525 02:52:08,422 --> 02:52:09,242 Peace out. 2526 02:52:09,242 --> 02:52:10,225 Later. 2527 02:52:10,829 --> 02:52:11,791 Alright.