1 00:00:00,137 --> 00:00:05,017 Gardiner: Welcome to Off the Console the hottest show that's all about tech news 2 00:00:05,017 --> 00:00:09,997 and gaming and everything nerdy My name is Gardner and I am joined today by my friend 3 00:00:10,097 --> 00:00:12,127 HighTechLowLife How's it going HighTech 4 00:00:13,021 --> 00:00:13,131 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: What's up? 5 00:00:13,181 --> 00:00:13,911 I'm doing all right. 6 00:00:13,921 --> 00:00:14,511 How about you 7 00:00:15,001 --> 00:00:20,291 Gardiner: I'm doing fantastic I've had a great week Uh and uh we have a great 8 00:00:20,291 --> 00:00:22,971 week of tech disasters to uh talk to you? 9 00:00:22,971 --> 00:00:28,071 guys about Uh we're talking about the Steam Frame Uh it looks like it's coming 10 00:00:28,211 --> 00:00:34,541 any day now Just our luck they'll announce it like tomorrow as this episode drops uh 11 00:00:35,213 --> 00:00:36,523 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Too bad James isn't here 12 00:00:51,461 --> 00:00:53,001 you better watch this episode, James. 13 00:00:53,051 --> 00:00:55,201 Gardiner: yeah watch this episode Leave us a comment 14 00:00:59,121 --> 00:01:04,631 Uh yeah We also have some Xbox news We're gonna be talking about the ridiculous 15 00:01:04,681 --> 00:01:10,501 four gigabyte uh AMD card that just got announced uh and a whole bunch of 16 00:01:10,511 --> 00:01:15,325 other things Now if you enjoy these episodes if you find what we do here fun 17 00:01:15,491 --> 00:01:18,921 or interesting make sure you subscribe to us on YouTube You can head over to 18 00:01:18,931 --> 00:01:25,401 OffTheConsolecom to uh to follow our audio feed on your favorite podcasting app 19 00:01:25,401 --> 00:01:29,161 You can also uh engage with the show Uh there's a lot of really cool stuff that 20 00:01:29,171 --> 00:01:35,041 you can do over at uh OffTheConsolecom Um and we also have a Patreon and a Discord 21 00:01:35,121 --> 00:01:41,461 You'll find links to that below Um yeah we And we just recorded a really fun episode 22 00:01:41,541 --> 00:01:47,801 uh a a bonus show that was too hot for YouTube Uh so on Patreon it's ex ex it's 23 00:01:47,811 --> 00:01:55,401 exclusive to our patrons so we thank them for that Uh yeah so let's uh let's talk 24 00:01:55,411 --> 00:01:59,341 about what we did this week We like to start the show off by chatting about what 25 00:01:59,341 --> 00:02:01,541 we've been up to HiTek how was your week 26 00:02:02,135 --> 00:02:04,075 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: My week was doing, was pretty good. 27 00:02:04,075 --> 00:02:06,135 I got to play a bunch of Steam Machine. 28 00:02:06,635 --> 00:02:10,685 I played, uh, I started, uh, Daemon X Machina: Titanic Scion, 29 00:02:10,745 --> 00:02:11,895 and it's a pretty sick game. 30 00:02:12,207 --> 00:02:12,717 Gardiner: Oh really 31 00:02:12,735 --> 00:02:14,315 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Do you like mech- do you like mechas? 32 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:26,637 Right, do you like, but do you like anime style mech games? 33 00:02:26,937 --> 00:02:27,237 Gardiner: Oh 34 00:02:27,297 --> 00:02:29,447 uh I don't think I've ever tried one 35 00:02:30,797 --> 00:02:31,237 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You might. 36 00:02:31,367 --> 00:02:32,327 Gardiner: of Enders count I 37 00:02:32,627 --> 00:02:33,987 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, Zone of Enders counts, yeah. 38 00:02:34,037 --> 00:02:34,577 Gardiner: played that 39 00:02:35,187 --> 00:02:35,497 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All right. 40 00:02:35,827 --> 00:02:36,577 But I've been playing that. 41 00:02:36,577 --> 00:02:39,757 I've also been doing, uh, some research on a bunch of recomps 42 00:02:39,757 --> 00:02:41,787 as well for a future project. 43 00:02:42,087 --> 00:02:42,677 Gardiner: heck yeah 44 00:02:42,677 --> 00:02:44,047 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You could probably figure out what's coming 45 00:02:46,017 --> 00:02:46,717 Gardiner: Absolutely 46 00:02:47,017 --> 00:02:50,319 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, and, uh, Steam Machine Masterclass is finally 47 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:52,269 out and people are loving it. 48 00:02:52,379 --> 00:02:54,509 And there's another episode queued up already. 49 00:02:54,579 --> 00:02:57,899 Uh, and there's gonna be another one also queued up as well soon 50 00:02:58,901 --> 00:02:59,961 Gardiner: Dude that's great 51 00:03:00,301 --> 00:03:03,651 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, but aside from that though, lots of Steam Machine, just 52 00:03:03,921 --> 00:03:06,461 also me- just also messing around too. 53 00:03:06,751 --> 00:03:07,101 Gardiner: Hmm 54 00:03:07,661 --> 00:03:11,521 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, but I've heard you built your own 55 00:03:12,271 --> 00:03:16,001 Gardiner: I did build my own Uh it's really awesome 56 00:03:16,717 --> 00:03:18,107 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You got, got any pictures of it 57 00:03:18,861 --> 00:03:25,301 Gardiner: Uh uh I offhand um unfortunately but it's a it's the 58 00:03:25,301 --> 00:03:32,941 Lian Li case that you sent me Uh the one with the um oh my gosh What's the 59 00:03:32,941 --> 00:03:36,091 word I'm looking for It's got like the the wood on the front which and it? 60 00:03:36,091 --> 00:03:37,171 looks really nice 61 00:03:38,637 --> 00:03:40,317 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Is it the small, is it the small one? 62 00:03:40,571 --> 00:03:41,511 Gardiner: Yeah Yeah 63 00:03:41,577 --> 00:03:42,317 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: don't think that's Leah and Leah. 64 00:03:42,337 --> 00:03:43,087 I think that's Fractal. 65 00:03:43,501 --> 00:03:43,791 Gardiner: No 66 00:03:43,897 --> 00:03:44,127 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Fra- 67 00:03:44,321 --> 00:03:48,271 Gardiner: Li Where's the I don't Oh man It's the 68 00:03:48,567 --> 00:03:49,817 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You should take a picture real quick 69 00:03:52,183 --> 00:03:56,863 Gardiner: A3M MATXWD Here I'll take a picture My desk is a huge mess but I'll 70 00:03:56,863 --> 00:04:01,783 I don't even care right now I've been doing a ton of testing so um I've been 71 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:07,513 playing a bunch of games I I played um uh What's the what's the name What's the 72 00:04:07,513 --> 00:04:11,003 game I have to clean my desk off Hold on 73 00:04:13,323 --> 00:04:17,673 All right Yeah I have it on its side too I don't think that it's 74 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:23,093 really designed to be on its side But I played um uh what's the word 75 00:04:25,191 --> 00:04:27,301 Sorry I'm derailing this right now so I can send this 76 00:04:27,607 --> 00:04:28,867 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Man, all good, all good, man. 77 00:04:28,957 --> 00:04:30,007 This is important stuff 78 00:04:30,481 --> 00:04:31,071 Gardiner: Yeah 79 00:04:36,007 --> 00:04:41,397 Send There we go I just sent it in Discord Um 80 00:04:43,607 --> 00:04:44,027 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I see. 81 00:04:44,027 --> 00:04:46,697 You should put that on the, uh, put it on the screen for 82 00:04:46,697 --> 00:04:47,927 all the, our audience to see. 83 00:04:48,317 --> 00:04:51,447 Gardiner: yes Open in browser please 84 00:04:51,487 --> 00:04:52,817 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That does look quite nice. 85 00:04:53,187 --> 00:04:56,887 I know you were trying to get all of the feat- like, near feature parity. 86 00:04:57,287 --> 00:04:58,167 Were you able to do that? 87 00:04:59,171 --> 00:05:04,611 Gardiner: Uh I'm still testing so I'm still to Why is this not opening um 88 00:05:06,751 --> 00:05:12,071 What is going on Close I can't open this 89 00:05:14,841 --> 00:05:15,311 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You can't open it? 90 00:05:15,619 --> 00:05:15,979 Gardiner: Nope 91 00:05:16,421 --> 00:05:22,101 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, uh, what if you s- what if you click on… Uh, whatever. 92 00:05:22,191 --> 00:05:22,681 But, uh 93 00:05:24,869 --> 00:05:27,489 Gardiner: Uh super fun uh 94 00:05:27,489 --> 00:05:29,229 yeah so um 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,257 what were we talking about Sorry 96 00:05:32,557 --> 00:05:34,777 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Your Steam mach- you said you were testing stuff? 97 00:05:35,815 --> 00:05:38,855 Gardiner: Yes So oh yeah so yeah you asked if I had been able to get 98 00:05:38,855 --> 00:05:42,825 feature parity Uh not yet I'm still working on getting HDC uh H HDMI 99 00:05:43,657 --> 00:05:45,167 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: HDMI CEC 100 00:05:45,825 --> 00:05:46,135 Gardiner: CEC 101 00:05:46,525 --> 00:05:52,355 um which I'm pretty close I think Uh and then the the other big thing 102 00:05:52,355 --> 00:05:56,385 is I cannot turn on the device using the Steam controller Uh like 103 00:05:56,405 --> 00:05:58,185 I can't wake it from sleep which 104 00:05:58,485 --> 00:05:58,905 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: At all? 105 00:05:59,355 --> 00:06:00,705 Gardiner: No I can't It doesn't 106 00:06:00,945 --> 00:06:01,265 Like right 107 00:06:01,265 --> 00:06:07,795 now it is asleep right now and if I turn the Steam controller on it will not it 108 00:06:07,795 --> 00:06:12,495 doesn't turn it on the other problem is that I didn't realize it but the 109 00:06:12,495 --> 00:06:21,185 motherboard that I'm using doesn't have um a USB 31 or the USBC header or 32 whatever 110 00:06:21,185 --> 00:06:26,405 it is header on the motherboard So uh I need to y uh and it only has one PCI 111 00:06:26,415 --> 00:06:35,245 port slot So I'm gonna get like a uh an uh M2 riser and use that to break out to 112 00:06:35,275 --> 00:06:46,275 a p uh USB like front panel because gosh darn it I ha it has like a USB 3 header 113 00:06:46,455 --> 00:06:53,775 on it Um but I also have a USBC port that doesn't work right now because um it 114 00:06:53,775 --> 00:06:59,515 doesn't support that on the motherboard But yeah it's pretty cool Also But it's 115 00:06:59,515 --> 00:07:06,695 super fast I've been playing uh a bunch of games and it is like uh I have uh 116 00:07:06,785 --> 00:07:15,325 like a two case fans and it has a like a single fan for the cooler the CPU cooler 117 00:07:15,585 --> 00:07:21,505 and it's like whisper quiet and it has like It's like I've seen it peak at like 118 00:07:21,655 --> 00:07:26,595 87 degrees C So pretty solid I feel Um 119 00:07:27,693 --> 00:07:29,673 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, you need to make a video on that, man 120 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:33,149 Gardiner: Oh I'm going to Yeah it's gonna be cool Um another thing that 121 00:07:33,159 --> 00:07:39,949 that I just got Is this watch This is the Pebble Time 2 It's it's super 122 00:07:39,949 --> 00:07:43,209 nice and I'm gonna be doing a review of this over on The Bryant Review So 123 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:45,989 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Is it a smartwatch or just like a watch watch? 124 00:07:46,289 --> 00:07:51,547 Gardiner: It's a smartwatch but it's like the OG smartwatch and it's the 125 00:07:51,837 --> 00:07:56,997 It's not like it's it's it uses its own custom realtime operating system so it's 126 00:07:57,007 --> 00:08:04,757 not using like Android Wear or anything like that It it's really really cool Um 127 00:08:05,113 --> 00:08:05,423 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Sick 128 00:08:05,723 --> 00:08:10,547 Gardiner: yeah It's c Um 100 open source and it's Sick. 129 00:08:10,867 --> 00:08:13,547 Even the companion app on Android is open source 130 00:08:13,793 --> 00:08:15,343 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Can you use it to control your house? 131 00:08:16,071 --> 00:08:20,651 Gardiner: Yes There is an there is a there is a uh Home Assistant integration 132 00:08:20,661 --> 00:08:22,931 for it which is really really slick 133 00:08:23,885 --> 00:08:24,865 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Nice, nice, nice, dude. 134 00:08:26,125 --> 00:08:29,665 That's weird though that I know, I know that Jimmy Champagne, he built his own 135 00:08:29,665 --> 00:08:34,575 as well, and he's able to wake his from sleep using a Steam controller, so I'm 136 00:08:34,625 --> 00:08:36,305 curious as to what the difference is 137 00:08:37,353 --> 00:08:41,123 Gardiner: It might be a USB like the the USB port that I'm using Um I I haven't 138 00:08:41,123 --> 00:08:45,193 tested it fully I just know that that's on my todo list to figure out so Cause I 139 00:08:45,193 --> 00:08:52,013 know it's possible Like the St in lizard mode the Steam controller as a mouse and 140 00:08:52,013 --> 00:08:58,093 keyboard so I feel like it should be very trivial to to wake up the machine from 141 00:08:58,631 --> 00:08:58,861 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right. 142 00:08:58,903 --> 00:08:59,753 Gardiner: sleep Yeah 143 00:08:59,841 --> 00:09:00,261 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: should be. 144 00:09:00,621 --> 00:09:03,061 You know, speaking of which, uh, this isn't on our topic list, but have you 145 00:09:03,061 --> 00:09:03,641 heard of something called OpenPuck 146 00:09:06,065 --> 00:09:06,405 Gardiner: OpenPuck? 147 00:09:06,415 --> 00:09:07,175 No I have not 148 00:09:07,565 --> 00:09:12,845 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So basically someone recreated, they, they took a, uh, 149 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:16,105 microcontroller that's similar to the one in the Puck and they 150 00:09:16,105 --> 00:09:17,515 transformed that into a Steam Puck. 151 00:09:18,305 --> 00:09:18,765 Gardiner: Oh Yeah. 152 00:09:19,365 --> 00:09:23,645 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah Admittedly, he, he admittedly says every part of this project 153 00:09:23,645 --> 00:09:26,465 heavily uses LLMs, but apparently it works 154 00:09:27,171 --> 00:09:30,611 Gardiner: Here this is my Steam Machine by the way This is I just finally get the 155 00:09:30,621 --> 00:09:38,041 window to open Um it's laying side The case should be standing up but it's not 156 00:09:38,061 --> 00:09:40,431 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: need to, I need to s- we need to see how big that is 157 00:09:40,431 --> 00:09:42,291 compared to a real, the real deal. 158 00:09:42,551 --> 00:09:46,081 Gardiner: Oh it's it's enormous compared to the real Steam Machine 159 00:09:46,807 --> 00:09:49,037 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: How many Steam Machines could you fit in that case? 160 00:09:49,217 --> 00:09:50,047 Probably like four, right? 161 00:09:50,447 --> 00:09:54,247 Gardiner: I would think at least like I think you would ha comfortably fit 162 00:09:54,257 --> 00:10:02,447 two um just fully Uh and then uh but I don't think there would be enough um 163 00:10:02,597 --> 00:10:05,097 space to fit more than two in it probably 164 00:10:08,913 --> 00:10:10,023 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, man. 165 00:10:10,063 --> 00:10:12,943 But, dude, it, it's pretty sick that you man- you, you finally 166 00:10:12,953 --> 00:10:14,309 joined the Steam Machine club. 167 00:10:14,609 --> 00:10:15,099 Gardiner: I did 168 00:10:15,263 --> 00:10:16,073 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And I know James 169 00:10:16,619 --> 00:10:18,849 Gardiner: it's got a 9070 XT in it 170 00:10:19,273 --> 00:10:22,593 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The… I know James has been working on a little project called 171 00:10:23,799 --> 00:10:24,329 Gardiner: Yes 172 00:10:25,473 --> 00:10:28,063 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and we might have to show that off at some point in 173 00:10:28,073 --> 00:10:29,753 time when he, when it's fully ready 174 00:10:32,053 --> 00:10:33,313 Well, actually, it might be fully ready. 175 00:10:33,313 --> 00:10:34,673 I, I mean, it's publicly available. 176 00:10:34,703 --> 00:10:36,673 You can go to it right now, CouchRig.com 177 00:10:37,063 --> 00:10:41,373 Gardiner: Yeah This is it's really cool I'm r I'm gonna get my specs on here 178 00:10:41,453 --> 00:10:45,743 once uh this is like fully done and ready so that'll be that'll be nifty 179 00:10:47,487 --> 00:10:47,977 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Sick. 180 00:10:48,197 --> 00:10:52,967 Anyways, it's ti- I think it's time for us to get started, but, uh, if you like 181 00:10:52,967 --> 00:10:56,357 our content, be sure to like and subscribe and share with all of your friends. 182 00:10:56,397 --> 00:10:57,967 You can check us out on the Fediverse. 183 00:10:58,747 --> 00:11:02,287 You can check us out on our, uh… You can also check out the audio 184 00:11:02,287 --> 00:11:07,277 feed at podcast.scribtrud.me or our new offtheconsole.com website. 185 00:11:07,477 --> 00:11:09,587 That's right, it's just offtheconsole.com. 186 00:11:10,077 --> 00:11:12,097 It's amazing that James managed to get that too 187 00:11:13,167 --> 00:11:19,527 Gardiner: Agreed Yeah pretty cool Yeah Um and also we have a Patreon and a Discord 188 00:11:19,637 --> 00:11:23,777 There's links for those down below Um there's exclusive content for our patrons 189 00:11:23,997 --> 00:11:29,037 over there as well cool cool So let's uh let's get to our first story We we're 190 00:11:29,157 --> 00:11:34,337 g we're talking about The Steam Frame launch looks like it's coming soon TM 191 00:11:36,217 --> 00:11:38,247 What uh what's up with the Steam Frame 192 00:11:38,637 --> 00:11:42,557 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The Steam Frame just got FCC certification, which means 193 00:11:42,557 --> 00:11:44,157 it's only a matter of time maybe 194 00:11:45,069 --> 00:11:46,819 Gardiner: Wow that's exciting Hmm 195 00:11:47,773 --> 00:11:51,093 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And the, and there's been a f- there's been a bevy of Steam 196 00:11:51,093 --> 00:11:52,753 frame updates that have been coming out. 197 00:11:53,073 --> 00:11:56,783 Uh, not… And most recently they came out with the, uh, 198 00:11:56,823 --> 00:12:00,053 ARM 64, the, uh, compat list. 199 00:12:00,123 --> 00:12:03,143 It's an a- it's qu- it's a quote app, but you can't actually access it 'cause 200 00:12:03,143 --> 00:12:05,423 it's not a real game, so to speak. 201 00:12:05,923 --> 00:12:09,773 Apparently Half-Life: Alyx just got an update on SteamDB. 202 00:12:10,403 --> 00:12:11,783 We don't know what that's about yet. 203 00:12:12,183 --> 00:12:12,573 Gardiner: Hmm 204 00:12:13,683 --> 00:12:16,303 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: We also got Le- Leptin is also showing up 205 00:12:16,303 --> 00:12:17,833 in like Steam Search as well. 206 00:12:17,843 --> 00:12:22,723 That's the, uh, compatibility layer they use for, uh, Android to Android to Linux. 207 00:12:22,897 --> 00:12:23,337 Gardiner: Hmm 208 00:12:24,113 --> 00:12:27,163 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I wonder if that works on x86 though as well 209 00:12:28,257 --> 00:12:28,897 Gardiner: Leptin 210 00:12:29,613 --> 00:12:30,163 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 211 00:12:30,347 --> 00:12:31,897 Gardiner: but isn't that based on Waydroid 212 00:12:34,453 --> 00:12:35,733 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know, actually. 213 00:12:35,827 --> 00:12:41,967 Gardiner: it is Lepton Waydroid Oh yeah 214 00:12:44,327 --> 00:12:49,841 Yeah So Waydroid is available for x86 I don't know if Lepton is but 215 00:12:50,141 --> 00:12:54,211 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: S- so the good news is, uh, Waydroid, it works. 216 00:12:54,231 --> 00:12:58,991 I've tried out Waydroid on my Steam, Steam Deck, uh, like a year ago or so. 217 00:12:59,495 --> 00:12:59,845 Gardiner: Yeah 218 00:12:59,961 --> 00:13:01,751 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: works pretty well in case you ever wanted to, I 219 00:13:01,751 --> 00:13:05,041 don't know, play some mobile games 220 00:13:05,625 --> 00:13:10,175 Gardiner: Yeah Uh Waydroid is cool I really like it Uh it works it it 221 00:13:10,195 --> 00:13:14,685 Actually my Waydroid video is one of my most popular videos on my channel so 222 00:13:15,495 --> 00:13:20,195 pretty nifty And also Bazzite comes with Waydroid now I don't know if you saw that 223 00:13:22,677 --> 00:13:23,927 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Wait, Bazzite comes with it 224 00:13:24,231 --> 00:13:24,821 Gardiner: It comes with it? 225 00:13:24,821 --> 00:13:25,911 preinstalled so 226 00:13:26,037 --> 00:13:26,587 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Ooh. 227 00:13:26,601 --> 00:13:28,321 Gardiner: screw around with like anything 228 00:13:28,367 --> 00:13:30,177 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's been a while since I've reinstalled Bazzite 229 00:13:30,197 --> 00:13:33,827 on anything, so this is n- this is news to me, truth be told 230 00:13:34,151 --> 00:13:38,631 Gardiner: Yeah I put Bazzite on my Steam Machine so it's uh you know um 231 00:13:38,933 --> 00:13:39,033 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I, 232 00:13:39,171 --> 00:13:40,091 Gardiner: pretty cool to see that 233 00:13:40,343 --> 00:13:42,453 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I wonder if that's why it's not booting, 234 00:13:42,773 --> 00:13:44,183 um, not waking from boot. 235 00:13:44,233 --> 00:13:47,633 I wonder if that's something that Bazzite just can't do right now 236 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,939 Gardiner: I know that it can because if I if I like switch my mouse cause 237 00:13:51,939 --> 00:13:58,179 I have my I have my mouse my mouse's um wireless receiver the USB receiver 238 00:13:58,289 --> 00:14:03,189 connected If I switch this over to that it just turns on immediately So 239 00:14:04,179 --> 00:14:06,519 um I'm not sure why it's not working 240 00:14:08,525 --> 00:14:10,965 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, it's… I don't know, man. 241 00:14:10,965 --> 00:14:15,175 But all, all I know, all I know for certain is that it's a, it's an exciting 242 00:14:15,175 --> 00:14:17,725 time to be into Steam hardware, even if 243 00:14:18,183 --> 00:14:18,503 Gardiner: Yeah 244 00:14:18,535 --> 00:14:21,955 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Steam Frame may be super expensive, 'cause we still 245 00:14:21,955 --> 00:14:23,245 don't know how much this costs. 246 00:14:23,575 --> 00:14:25,035 It's the one thing that hasn't leaked yet 247 00:14:26,403 --> 00:14:29,033 Gardiner: Wasn't there like a prediction of it being like 248 00:14:29,033 --> 00:14:31,463 1300 or some crazy crazy number 249 00:14:32,381 --> 00:14:34,321 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I mean, I thought it was gonna be over 1,000 250 00:14:34,361 --> 00:14:36,041 before the RAM crisis ' cause 251 00:14:36,133 --> 00:14:36,443 Gardiner: Yeah 252 00:14:37,091 --> 00:14:39,441 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Um, I, I, I, I, again, I don't know. 253 00:14:40,091 --> 00:14:43,301 I know that Facebook primarily sells theirs for like, probably 254 00:14:43,301 --> 00:14:45,521 at a loss because it's Facebook. 255 00:14:45,571 --> 00:14:47,961 I mean, they harvest your data for all you're worth 256 00:14:48,807 --> 00:14:54,807 Gardiner: Yeah yeah Yeah I, mean this I was really hopeful that the Steam 257 00:14:54,807 --> 00:15:01,767 Frame would be like in the 750 range because it doesn't need the outside in 258 00:15:01,767 --> 00:15:06,727 tracking stuff like the lighthouses and all that other stuff Um and it really 259 00:15:06,727 --> 00:15:10,237 looked like they were doing everything they could to cut uh costs with this 260 00:15:10,697 --> 00:15:15,257 Um now that the Rampocalypse is here it's like it feels like it's going to 261 00:15:15,257 --> 00:15:24,867 be probably at least 1100 Um yeah I don't know, I I I'm not super optimistic 262 00:15:26,509 --> 00:15:30,849 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I I don't know man, but I mean, this whole, this whole 263 00:15:30,859 --> 00:15:34,669 Rampocalypse situation has really messed up a lot of things too. 264 00:15:35,079 --> 00:15:35,499 Gardiner: Yeah 265 00:15:35,699 --> 00:15:38,459 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, console prices went up. 266 00:15:38,779 --> 00:15:42,189 I don't remember a time where they've ever… The, the dollar value has 267 00:15:42,209 --> 00:15:44,369 ever gone up on a console, ever. 268 00:15:44,669 --> 00:15:45,109 Gardiner: Right 269 00:15:45,249 --> 00:15:47,239 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: This, this is the first generation where this has happened 270 00:15:47,975 --> 00:15:54,685 Gardiner: Yeah And and I mean that Like you know usually with a console the As 271 00:15:54,685 --> 00:16:01,435 the you know the manufacturer is able to produce more you know consoles the value 272 00:16:01,555 --> 00:16:05,815 of the console increases because more people have it more games are being made 273 00:16:07,315 --> 00:16:11,125 and meanwhile the manufacturing costs go down because of like efficiencies 274 00:16:11,165 --> 00:16:14,505 and bulk pricing But what happened 275 00:16:14,505 --> 00:16:18,775 with this console generation is people bought them when they initially launched 276 00:16:18,825 --> 00:16:24,665 right Especially the Xbox so it's like uh And then you know Xbox and PlayStation 277 00:16:24,675 --> 00:16:30,665 have fewer and fewer like compelling reasons to actually buy them Uh and 278 00:16:30,665 --> 00:16:35,295 the generation really hasn't seen as much growth And then on top of all that 279 00:16:35,565 --> 00:16:41,605 the pricing just continues to increase for all of the the hardware So I just 280 00:16:41,605 --> 00:16:45,365 don't I don't I don't get it man I don't see the the value of it anymore 281 00:16:45,869 --> 00:16:48,199 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, I don't know. 282 00:16:48,479 --> 00:16:52,199 Things are f- s- things are so messed up with pricing nowadays. 283 00:16:52,551 --> 00:16:53,011 Gardiner: Yeah 284 00:16:53,311 --> 00:16:54,749 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: when the, re- remember when people thought the 285 00:16:54,749 --> 00:16:57,279 Switch 2 was expensive at, like, 500? 286 00:16:57,669 --> 00:17:00,361 Or 450, but 500 with Mario Kart, 287 00:17:00,661 --> 00:17:00,831 Gardiner: Yeah 288 00:17:01,449 --> 00:17:03,379 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and now it's the cheapest option? 289 00:17:04,009 --> 00:17:06,199 Like, how, how the, how does that happen 290 00:17:07,365 --> 00:17:09,245 Gardiner: My dude I yeah don't 291 00:17:10,173 --> 00:17:13,083 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but let's be honest though, even- they're gonna jack the 292 00:17:13,093 --> 00:17:14,143 prices up again, let's be honest. 293 00:17:14,183 --> 00:17:15,063 Let's be perfectly clear. 294 00:17:15,063 --> 00:17:19,463 Nintendo, Nintendo will see this opportunity or I guess they'll say, 295 00:17:19,523 --> 00:17:23,275 "Oh, we can't keep making these at a loss. We gotta raise the prices." 296 00:17:23,575 --> 00:17:24,015 Gardiner: Mmhmm 297 00:17:24,103 --> 00:17:26,913 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And then it's gonna be like $700 for a Switch 2. 298 00:17:27,423 --> 00:17:28,693 Is that not, is that not insane? 299 00:17:29,191 --> 00:17:32,921 Gardiner: It's crazy I mean you can get the 250 gig Mario Kart World 300 00:17:32,931 --> 00:17:40,031 Switch 2 bundle for 448 on eBay Um and that's b and that to me right 301 00:17:40,031 --> 00:17:45,241 now feels like a steal which is crazy because that It's nuts That's bananas 302 00:17:46,487 --> 00:17:47,687 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Are you gonna buy a Gardener? 303 00:17:47,881 --> 00:17:51,191 Gardiner: no I don't have I don't have money to waste I wouldn't play it 304 00:17:51,533 --> 00:17:52,193 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That's true. 305 00:17:52,243 --> 00:17:52,783 That's true. 306 00:17:53,383 --> 00:17:58,133 Mario Kart World is fun, but, like, I don't think it's $80 fun. 307 00:17:58,669 --> 00:18:00,989 Gardiner: No No No no no not at all 308 00:18:01,153 --> 00:18:02,063 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 309 00:18:02,203 --> 00:18:05,513 Um, if they sold it for like 60 bucks, then I think, I feel like it'd be a steal. 310 00:18:05,663 --> 00:18:06,043 But, 311 00:18:06,089 --> 00:18:06,099 Gardiner: Mmmm 312 00:18:06,683 --> 00:18:09,693 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: almost everyone that has a Switch 2 probably has Mario Kart World 313 00:18:10,343 --> 00:18:15,463 Gardiner: Yeah Ugh But I mean you know what I do have money to burn on is the 314 00:18:15,463 --> 00:18:18,583 Steam Frame When that comes out I'm actually going to buy that because I 315 00:18:18,593 --> 00:18:22,823 know that I will play it and I'll be able to make some money back doing 316 00:18:22,873 --> 00:18:24,903 You know making content about it Um 317 00:18:24,973 --> 00:18:26,203 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You know what you should do though? 318 00:18:26,593 --> 00:18:26,873 Gardiner: hmm 319 00:18:27,183 --> 00:18:31,223 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You should try out VR on Linux, see if it's improved at all 320 00:18:31,523 --> 00:18:35,039 Gardiner: Yes I that's my plan when I get the Steam Machine out in the 321 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:39,269 living room is I'm gonna do probably a live stream whi where I play Linux 322 00:18:39,659 --> 00:18:44,219 um Steam games which will be fun 323 00:18:45,265 --> 00:18:45,555 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude. 324 00:18:46,825 --> 00:18:48,345 Dude, it's gonna be so awesome, man. 325 00:18:48,345 --> 00:18:52,735 I need more VR games, 'cause, um, my… I mean, I'm not surprised that my VR 326 00:18:52,765 --> 00:18:54,825 library is kinda lacking, but, like, 327 00:18:55,271 --> 00:18:55,511 Gardiner: Mmhmm 328 00:18:55,975 --> 00:18:59,905 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: if I, if I look at my VR game list, I only have, like 329 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:07,949 Nine of them, and most of them are not VR, like VR… None of them are 330 00:19:07,949 --> 00:19:11,739 VR first except for maybe The Lab, but that's a free title, I think 331 00:19:12,051 --> 00:19:16,691 Gardiner: Yeah Um what do what do I have I have like a bunch of games VR What 332 00:19:16,691 --> 00:19:18,001 do you have for a headset by the way 333 00:19:19,349 --> 00:19:23,539 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Um, I don't have, I don't, I don't have… Well, actually 334 00:19:23,539 --> 00:19:27,529 I have a Quest 2, but, uh, I'm looking to sell that so I can get a Frame 335 00:19:28,515 --> 00:19:28,895 Gardiner: Yeah 336 00:19:29,613 --> 00:19:32,013 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But I didn't, but like I didn't, I d- I have not 337 00:19:32,023 --> 00:19:35,213 bought any real VR games on PC. 338 00:19:35,575 --> 00:19:36,235 Gardiner: Hmm 339 00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:39,623 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: are just 2D games that have a VR version. 340 00:19:40,085 --> 00:19:40,615 Gardiner: Gotcha 341 00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:43,073 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Sega Genesis Classics? 342 00:19:43,333 --> 00:19:45,343 Oh, right, someone told me about this too. 343 00:19:45,403 --> 00:19:47,703 It, it, it has a VR mode for some reason 344 00:19:48,167 --> 00:19:51,937 Gardiner: Yeah It uh it's actually kinda neat but it made me feel sick 345 00:19:51,957 --> 00:19:58,187 when I played it so But it's like you're sitting in a room playing like you're 346 00:19:58,417 --> 00:20:05,277 y y like the VR experience is you're in room playing on a CRT in the game Um 347 00:20:07,327 --> 00:20:13,387 Uh so I have Aperture Hand Lab Audica Rhythm Shooter Beat Saber 348 00:20:13,417 --> 00:20:19,457 Bone Lab Boneworks Doom VR um Google Earth VR for some reason 349 00:20:20,687 --> 00:20:25,427 HalfLife Alyx of course The Lab Moss VR I got like fi I have 350 00:20:25,437 --> 00:20:28,047 52 games on Steam that are VR 351 00:20:29,389 --> 00:20:29,899 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Damn. 352 00:20:30,343 --> 00:20:30,703 Gardiner: Yeah 353 00:20:31,269 --> 00:20:33,259 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I feel like I should buy Half-Life: Alyx 354 00:20:33,439 --> 00:20:34,959 before I buy the Steam Frame 355 00:20:35,455 --> 00:20:42,835 Gardiner: Dude HalfLife Alyx is so good dude It's so good You gotta play it It's 356 00:20:42,835 --> 00:20:49,585 a it literally like it felt magical to me Every time I think about Like I'm 357 00:20:49,585 --> 00:20:54,675 really excited to go back and play through Alyx with the uh with the Steam Frame. 358 00:20:54,725 --> 00:20:57,705 Like that's gonna be a just a great experience 359 00:20:58,175 --> 00:20:59,055 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Absolutely, man. 360 00:20:59,065 --> 00:20:59,615 Absolutely. 361 00:20:59,615 --> 00:21:03,185 And also, there's also a bevy of VR mods for games too, 362 00:21:03,591 --> 00:21:04,521 Gardiner: Yes there are 363 00:21:04,855 --> 00:21:06,475 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and I wanna try those out too. 364 00:21:06,675 --> 00:21:09,695 I, I, I mean, I don't know if like Cyberpunk would 365 00:21:09,695 --> 00:21:11,615 run really well on, uh, the 366 00:21:12,173 --> 00:21:12,473 Gardiner: On a 367 00:21:12,625 --> 00:21:13,785 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Steam, on the Frame. 368 00:21:14,185 --> 00:21:15,925 Like not directly, but like 369 00:21:16,443 --> 00:21:24,043 Gardiner: I you know it so I I've got the the 9070 XT in this Steam Machine and it 370 00:21:24,143 --> 00:21:32,143 like th with uh I had Cyberpunk playing on here through Proton with like extreme 371 00:21:32,143 --> 00:21:34,073 ray tracing and it was managing like 372 00:21:34,083 --> 00:21:38,393 68 frames a second And I was like Whoa that's crazy Like I didn't 373 00:21:38,393 --> 00:21:43,893 expect ray tracing to actually work worth anything Um so that's wild 374 00:21:44,869 --> 00:21:48,459 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Man, the Steam, the Steam frame can't come out any sooner, man 375 00:21:48,995 --> 00:21:49,635 Gardiner: I know Dude. 376 00:21:50,015 --> 00:21:54,545 I'm so excited about it Like literally so the I the only reason I built this Steam 377 00:21:54,575 --> 00:22:00,255 Machine was because I was able to find a sponsor to help to help me build it Um and 378 00:22:00,255 --> 00:22:04,535 uh that's pretty cool So but like I was I'm like I don't think I would actually 379 00:22:04,535 --> 00:22:09,765 play if I bought a Steam Machine and I'd rather spend that money on a Steam Frame 380 00:22:10,615 --> 00:22:16,515 now that like you know I've got this I'm gonna be able to play Steam Frame th and 381 00:22:16,515 --> 00:22:24,425 stream from like a a brandnew um uh Steam Machine that I built myself and that's 382 00:22:24,425 --> 00:22:29,325 gonna be really cool So uh I That's why I saved my money and I didn't buy a Steam 383 00:22:29,335 --> 00:22:33,625 Machine is cause I really want the Frame I'm really looking forward to s putting 384 00:22:33,625 --> 00:22:38,185 it through its paces screwing around with it pl like s especially being able to play 385 00:22:38,185 --> 00:22:46,175 in standalone mode or to play games like like flat like 2D 2D screen games uh in 386 00:22:46,185 --> 00:22:51,305 VR is gonna be really really sick So I'm I don't know I'm looking forward to it 387 00:22:52,787 --> 00:22:57,357 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude Goddammit, Val- all right, so I, what, I wonder what's 388 00:22:57,357 --> 00:23:01,157 gonna happen to the world once all of Valve's hardware, like, releases, 389 00:23:01,157 --> 00:23:04,187 'cause they've, we've been waiting for a while for all of this stuff. 390 00:23:04,487 --> 00:23:05,117 Gardiner: Yes 391 00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:07,757 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: even, I, I'm seeing sentiment for the Steam Machine 392 00:23:07,757 --> 00:23:10,917 turn around too, because people w- like, 'cause, like, let's, let's 393 00:23:10,917 --> 00:23:13,987 be honest, the first few reviews were not exactly stellar for it 394 00:23:14,447 --> 00:23:19,997 Gardiner: No y I think like most of the rev the reviews that I saw were like 395 00:23:20,027 --> 00:23:24,967 This is awesome it's just overpriced Like it's just not worth the the the money 396 00:23:24,977 --> 00:23:33,136 But I think people are really kind of understanding that um having hardware 397 00:23:33,607 --> 00:23:39,447 that's dedicated like to a specific purpose and having the software that 398 00:23:39,457 --> 00:23:44,717 is designed for that hardware is just um a superior experience in a lot of 399 00:23:44,717 --> 00:23:51,787 ways um rather than kind of the brute force like you know um genericism of 400 00:23:51,807 --> 00:23:54,187 like the Windows PC gaming experience 401 00:23:55,285 --> 00:23:58,945 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: More cores, more power, more specs, more money 402 00:23:59,399 --> 00:24:03,459 Gardiner: I mean dude like that's literally w been my whole thesis like 403 00:24:03,469 --> 00:24:07,499 from the time I started my YouTube channel is just like you know you can 404 00:24:07,509 --> 00:24:14,429 you can like make a gaming experience on Windows but you're h you have to jump 405 00:24:14,429 --> 00:24:19,689 through all of these hoops versus having a dedicated operating system that just 406 00:24:19,809 --> 00:24:26,519 is for gaming and is hyperfocused on that it makes so much more sense that 407 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:33,019 way Um and that and like I've always kind of like doubted the idea of like 408 00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:42,809 I've always lamented the fact that PCs were designed like the operating systems 409 00:24:42,809 --> 00:24:47,899 weren't designed for the hardware right It's cool to have like that freedom 410 00:24:47,899 --> 00:24:53,019 of being able to install whatever OS anywhere but like you know the Amiga 411 00:24:53,489 --> 00:24:58,309 right The hardware and the software had assumptions about each other and and 412 00:24:58,319 --> 00:25:03,649 they worked together The you know Apple's you know for all the the shit that we 413 00:25:03,649 --> 00:25:09,159 give Apple they do make really great hardware and the software experience 414 00:25:09,169 --> 00:25:14,669 for that hardware is also stellar And so for Valve to come through and to bring 415 00:25:14,669 --> 00:25:21,949 the openness of the PC um while also delivering that software synergy for lack 416 00:25:21,949 --> 00:25:27,509 of a better word is and people are really recognizing that fact that that they're 417 00:25:27,509 --> 00:25:30,199 able to do that Uh I'm it's exciting 418 00:25:33,303 --> 00:25:35,763 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's an un- it's an unusual situation, man. 419 00:25:35,783 --> 00:25:36,693 I think, uh, I, 420 00:25:36,967 --> 00:25:37,347 Gardiner: Yeah 421 00:25:38,733 --> 00:25:40,813 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I, I mean, I don't know what's, I don't know what's 422 00:25:40,813 --> 00:25:42,323 gonna happen these da- this day. 423 00:25:42,653 --> 00:25:46,303 I mean, shit, man, everything's, everything's going wrong here. 424 00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:46,883 Uh, 425 00:25:48,187 --> 00:25:48,657 Gardiner: Yeah 426 00:25:48,683 --> 00:25:49,963 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you know what else is going wrong, though? 427 00:25:51,287 --> 00:25:51,937 Gardiner: Xbox 428 00:25:52,237 --> 00:25:55,225 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, especially their outage that they had very recently. 429 00:25:55,695 --> 00:25:58,595 So last week we talked about PlayStation having an outage. 430 00:25:58,695 --> 00:26:02,305 This week we're talking about Xbox having an outage this week, and the 431 00:26:02,305 --> 00:26:07,555 crazy part, apparently the outage also affected disc games too, 432 00:26:07,855 --> 00:26:08,205 Gardiner: Oh 433 00:26:08,505 --> 00:26:11,135 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: physical games, unplayable 434 00:26:12,935 --> 00:26:17,025 Gardiner: Yeah Well this might be Microsoft doing their best to sabotage 435 00:26:17,395 --> 00:26:22,175 anyone who thinks owning disks is better than than having a digital only 436 00:26:22,175 --> 00:26:30,425 version Uh this is crazy dude This is bananas So okay wait So Xbox they had 437 00:26:30,425 --> 00:26:35,225 their biggest outage in recent memory Xbox's core service went down for over 438 00:26:35,225 --> 00:26:43,695 15 hours Xbox's CTO took to Twitter to explain what went wrong Oh my gosh dude 439 00:26:44,525 --> 00:26:46,165 So what caused the outage Do we know 440 00:26:46,901 --> 00:26:51,931 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Um, it doesn't specify, but it was down for around 15 hours 441 00:26:54,411 --> 00:26:57,271 And it's not just Xbox Live, like the online service, but 442 00:26:57,271 --> 00:26:59,471 it's Xbox the whole thing. 443 00:27:01,071 --> 00:27:05,861 So, I mean, yeah, it was, it was a pretty long time for it to be down and, 444 00:27:05,869 --> 00:27:09,869 Gardiner: Mmhmm 445 00:27:11,091 --> 00:27:13,341 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but you also couldn't access your physical 446 00:27:13,341 --> 00:27:15,731 library too, i- in certain cases. 447 00:27:16,089 --> 00:27:16,519 Gardiner: Hmm 448 00:27:16,821 --> 00:27:19,951 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: claims that shouldn't have happened, yet it did 449 00:27:22,529 --> 00:27:27,219 Gardiner: You know when you build a uh When you build your infrastructure 450 00:27:27,239 --> 00:27:33,699 in the same authoritarian way that you structure your uh company uh this is 451 00:27:33,709 --> 00:27:39,219 bound to happen It there's there's no avoiding this Like when your central 452 00:27:39,229 --> 00:27:45,559 server goes down uh and uh and all of the client devices rely on that central 453 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:50,625 server this will always happen when the central server goes down It's it's bananas 454 00:27:50,925 --> 00:27:54,975 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It al- uh, yeah, it also affected Xbox 360, Xbox 455 00:27:54,975 --> 00:27:57,215 One, and the current gen, so 456 00:27:57,705 --> 00:28:03,125 Gardiner: What Why Uh you know you know what devices wasn't uh device wasn't 457 00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:07,455 uh affected by this The original Xbox the one that's still worth playing 458 00:28:07,917 --> 00:28:12,397 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The one that doesn't the one that is unfortunately not 459 00:28:12,407 --> 00:28:13,537 connected to Xbox Live anymore. 460 00:28:13,537 --> 00:28:15,737 You have to get, uh, what was it, Insignia or something like that? 461 00:28:16,091 --> 00:28:19,631 Gardiner: yeah Well you know what else is you know you know who what other devices 462 00:28:19,641 --> 00:28:28,021 weren't affected by this the the uh 360s have like R R RGH hacks where they 463 00:28:28,021 --> 00:28:33,001 can kinda go their own way and not have to worry about Xbox's core s services 464 00:28:35,721 --> 00:28:39,261 It's like dude give me a compelling give me more compelling reasons 465 00:28:39,261 --> 00:28:43,541 to n to like you know thumb my nose at your authority Microsoft 466 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:49,499 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, like s- we've seen outages from Steam, but like you can still 467 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,899 access your whole digital library too. 468 00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:52,219 Like 469 00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:52,919 Gardiner: Yeah 470 00:28:53,349 --> 00:28:55,249 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: l- remember Silksong release day? 471 00:28:55,549 --> 00:28:56,039 Gardiner: Mmhmm 472 00:28:56,339 --> 00:28:59,039 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, some… I mean, Steam was lagging up a storm. 473 00:28:59,049 --> 00:29:00,639 Some people couldn't buy Silksong, 474 00:29:00,939 --> 00:29:01,489 Gardiner: Mmhmm 475 00:29:01,629 --> 00:29:05,029 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but you could still play your games that, uh, and presumably 476 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:06,529 Silksong if you bought it in time 477 00:29:06,983 --> 00:29:13,353 Gardiner: Yeah Well you know this just is proof positive that like uh building like 478 00:29:13,353 --> 00:29:20,693 a digital only future requires careful planning and forethought And it shows that 479 00:29:20,703 --> 00:29:27,883 Microsoft and Sony are companies that are incapable of that kind of uh carefulness 480 00:29:28,373 --> 00:29:33,633 you know or having any attention to detail Like this is this is like by design I I 481 00:29:33,633 --> 00:29:40,993 feel like Like you have to be incredibly negligent incredibly malicious to uh 482 00:29:41,023 --> 00:29:45,663 to build Xbox Live or or PlayStation Network the way that they have built it 483 00:29:46,973 --> 00:29:50,023 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Um, people say, and people argue that you're not changing 484 00:29:50,033 --> 00:29:54,003 anything by switching from an all digital PlayStation to an all digital PC. 485 00:29:54,033 --> 00:29:54,423 Like 486 00:29:56,381 --> 00:30:00,611 Gardiner: Give me a break dude I mean okay so h when was the last 487 00:30:00,621 --> 00:30:03,781 time Epic store went down Did that take people's libraries out 488 00:30:04,883 --> 00:30:05,503 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: What libraries? 489 00:30:05,513 --> 00:30:07,333 No one buys games on Epic 490 00:30:09,105 --> 00:30:10,805 Gardiner: Roasted dude Got him 491 00:30:11,295 --> 00:30:15,635 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, I don't kn- I, to, and, but seriously though, I don't know. 492 00:30:15,685 --> 00:30:16,485 Uh, see. 493 00:30:16,485 --> 00:30:18,005 When, let's see, let's look it up right now. 494 00:30:18,045 --> 00:30:23,585 Epic Games Store outage 495 00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:32,139 Was there ever a Epic Games Store outage 496 00:30:34,679 --> 00:30:40,889 that prevented people from playing their game libraries 497 00:30:43,977 --> 00:30:49,157 Um, I mean, AI says yes. 498 00:30:49,757 --> 00:30:52,047 Let's see if… Let's see what this news article says. 499 00:30:54,047 --> 00:30:54,577 Let's see. 500 00:30:54,907 --> 00:30:58,477 Oh, I found a tweet from Epic themselves in 2021. 501 00:30:59,607 --> 00:31:02,927 "Outages currently impacting the Epic Games Store, logins, library, 502 00:31:02,927 --> 00:31:06,437 purchases, et cetera." I mean, I don't know, that sound- it kinda sounds 503 00:31:06,437 --> 00:31:11,407 like Epic Games went down and, uh, you couldn't access your Epic Games. 504 00:31:11,417 --> 00:31:13,167 That's not, that's not very epic of you. 505 00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:14,247 It's not very epic of them 506 00:31:14,773 --> 00:31:16,203 Gardiner: No not not at all 507 00:31:18,273 --> 00:31:25,703 Ugh dude th so like this is this is the yardstick by which every gamer who gives 508 00:31:25,703 --> 00:31:33,063 a shit about their purchases be measuring companies by right It's like has there 509 00:31:33,063 --> 00:31:37,913 been an outage of their service How long did it last And did it disable your access 510 00:31:37,913 --> 00:31:43,333 to the games that you have purchased If the answer to that last one especially is 511 00:31:44,083 --> 00:31:48,703 did it you know did it disable my access to my games Yes Then you should not be 512 00:31:48,703 --> 00:31:53,893 spending your money on that service And it doesn't matter it does not matter if 513 00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:58,583 they have an exclusive that you wanna play Guess what That's called FOMO Get over 514 00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:05,783 it Uh dude it it it's it's genuinely so concerning to me that people can't think 515 00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:12,273 beyond that like Oh I just wanna play this right now and I don't care if I w 516 00:32:12,283 --> 00:32:17,703 won't have access to it later It's like dude chill out Stop Just don't don't fall 517 00:32:17,703 --> 00:32:23,443 for the FOMO hype Ugh man it makes me so sick dude And you know o on the other 518 00:32:23,443 --> 00:32:28,923 side it's like the people who think like that are victims of the the uh marketing 519 00:32:28,923 --> 00:32:34,463 bullshit from these companies obviously Um and so I I have some sympathy but 520 00:32:34,473 --> 00:32:37,283 also like bro we can't we cannot do this 521 00:32:38,391 --> 00:32:41,801 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Now, I'm sure at some point in the past, like, I don't know, 522 00:32:41,801 --> 00:32:44,881 maybe like the Stone Ages, Steam has had outages that prevented you from 523 00:32:44,881 --> 00:32:49,501 playing Steam games, but like no recent outages have caused that in like the 524 00:32:49,501 --> 00:32:51,591 last couple of years, to my knowledge 525 00:32:51,891 --> 00:32:56,725 Gardiner: my I mean like there wa I I do remember like Christmas Day 2013 Do you 526 00:32:56,725 --> 00:33:02,735 remember I mean it might have been 2012 or something but like over a decade ago there 527 00:33:02,735 --> 00:33:08,385 was like uh uh you know you would log into Steam and somehow your session would get 528 00:33:08,385 --> 00:33:15,965 confused with someone else's that caused um like y if you went to your cart y in 529 00:33:16,005 --> 00:33:20,805 in the Steam store y you might see someone else's cart right Like the stuff that 530 00:33:20,805 --> 00:33:25,375 they've loaded up in their cart and you're like What the f hell is going on and it 531 00:33:25,425 --> 00:33:29,425 I think that that did throw off people's access to their libraries for a little bit 532 00:33:29,755 --> 00:33:34,575 but you can lit you could literally just go into offline mode and still play Um I 533 00:33:34,585 --> 00:33:39,565 have never seen the Steam store be taken I mean the S a Steam store outage affect 534 00:33:39,695 --> 00:33:43,553 individual libraries before Um Yeah. 535 00:33:43,853 --> 00:33:45,233 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah I mean, I, I don't know. 536 00:33:45,553 --> 00:33:48,043 I think these things are kind of inevitable, and I think what 537 00:33:48,043 --> 00:33:51,933 matters most isn't preventing… Well, preventing them matters. 538 00:33:52,263 --> 00:33:55,903 What I'm saying is what matters the most is their response to all, to any 539 00:33:55,903 --> 00:33:59,553 of this, 'cause, I mean, hackers could try to take Steam down altogether, 540 00:33:59,553 --> 00:34:03,833 and, I mean, I mean, what matters is figuring out if Valve is prepared 541 00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,023 for something like that to happen, 542 00:34:05,433 --> 00:34:05,893 Gardiner: Right 543 00:34:05,953 --> 00:34:06,703 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: any of these companies. 544 00:34:06,943 --> 00:34:09,793 Evidently Sony's not prepared for it whenever it happens. 545 00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:10,723 Gardiner: Right 546 00:34:10,863 --> 00:34:13,233 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They get ha- they get hacked by fucking North 547 00:34:13,233 --> 00:34:15,043 Korea Lazarus Group all the time 548 00:34:15,377 --> 00:34:20,557 Gardiner: Hmm Like yes they do Uh but I mean dude even this this Xbox 549 00:34:20,587 --> 00:34:25,037 outage took out people's ability to play physical games right Like this 550 00:34:25,037 --> 00:34:29,817 is just this is beyond the pale Like this should never be acceptable and 551 00:34:29,817 --> 00:34:33,347 there needs to be like a criminal probe into Microsoft for this I think 552 00:34:36,113 --> 00:34:36,873 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Ah, man. 553 00:34:36,923 --> 00:34:40,523 I don't know, I don't know if we'll ever see such a thing, but you know 554 00:34:40,523 --> 00:34:42,603 who should be criminally probed? 555 00:34:44,063 --> 00:34:44,143 Nvidia. 556 00:34:44,143 --> 00:34:44,673 And AMD 557 00:34:45,215 --> 00:34:46,105 Gardiner: Nvidia 558 00:34:47,183 --> 00:34:47,773 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: for that matter 559 00:34:48,073 --> 00:34:53,885 Gardiner: Yeah yes I agree I don't know if I ha Is There a translation tool 560 00:34:53,933 --> 00:34:54,683 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: There should be. 561 00:34:54,743 --> 00:34:58,633 Um, like your, if you go to your address bar and the, 562 00:34:58,785 --> 00:34:58,933 Gardiner: yeah 563 00:34:59,055 --> 00:34:59,475 right there 564 00:34:59,603 --> 00:34:59,825 yeah. 565 00:34:59,903 --> 00:35:05,063 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, Yeah so essentially it's a 20 to 30% price hike 566 00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:08,795 Gardiner: Wow 567 00:35:10,717 --> 00:35:11,517 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Interesting. 568 00:35:13,037 --> 00:35:17,597 But essentially, um, they're telling their partners that they're gonna increase the 569 00:35:17,597 --> 00:35:22,647 prices of all of this stuff again, 20 to 30%, 'cause the way they sell GPUs is 570 00:35:22,647 --> 00:35:29,097 they sell the GPU and the, and the, um, memory, the VRAM, in a single package. 571 00:35:29,583 --> 00:35:30,133 Gardiner: Oh wow 572 00:35:30,147 --> 00:35:32,387 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like, there's no way to get just the GPU 573 00:35:32,457 --> 00:35:33,887 and then source your own DRAM 574 00:35:36,013 --> 00:35:39,823 Gardiner: Wow That Ah dude that's crazy 575 00:35:42,281 --> 00:35:44,681 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, it's the third price increase after 576 00:35:44,681 --> 00:35:46,441 January and May of this year. 577 00:35:47,001 --> 00:35:49,531 It's, uh, three times this year? 578 00:35:50,031 --> 00:35:54,791 Gardiner: Yeah Mmhmm 579 00:35:55,091 --> 00:35:55,545 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: mind. 580 00:35:55,725 --> 00:35:58,835 I like how they translate NVIDIA to Huida. 581 00:36:00,201 --> 00:36:04,661 Gardiner: Yeah, Right Wow I didn't even pick up on that 582 00:36:04,671 --> 00:36:05,771 That's what that means yeah 583 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:07,359 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah dude. 584 00:36:07,459 --> 00:36:08,959 I don't know, but I, I don't know. 585 00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:10,323 But we, we get the idea. 586 00:36:10,623 --> 00:36:13,053 Gardiner: is that like a Chinese exonym for uh 587 00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:14,959 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know. 588 00:36:14,959 --> 00:36:17,229 I'm not, I'm not that kind of Asians, bro. 589 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,603 Sorry. 590 00:36:17,903 --> 00:36:18,123 Gardiner: yeah 591 00:36:21,683 --> 00:36:26,133 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, but like yes, essentially price increases. 592 00:36:26,653 --> 00:36:29,613 They saw a price increase for the 5090 in May, 593 00:36:30,137 --> 00:36:30,517 Gardiner: Hmm 594 00:36:31,093 --> 00:36:35,043 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and, uh, I don't know. 595 00:36:35,043 --> 00:36:35,103 I 596 00:36:35,157 --> 00:36:36,093 Gardiner: This is bananas 597 00:36:36,393 --> 00:36:41,283 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: j- I mean, we say, we say you should go to PC gaming, but like PC 598 00:36:41,643 --> 00:36:43,713 gaming's got its own trouble in paradise 599 00:36:43,975 --> 00:36:46,095 Gardiner: Yes and it's called Nvidia 600 00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:47,725 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, 601 00:36:48,115 --> 00:36:48,335 Gardiner: Well 602 00:36:48,355 --> 00:36:48,515 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: be… 603 00:36:48,815 --> 00:36:52,825 Gardiner: no um because AMD's doing the exact same thing 604 00:36:54,195 --> 00:36:55,075 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes. 605 00:36:55,665 --> 00:36:59,305 It was wa- it was just waiting for Nvidia to do it first, as per tradition 606 00:37:00,335 --> 00:37:05,205 Gardiner: Dude this is this is what you call a duopoly right This is a monopoly by 607 00:37:05,215 --> 00:37:11,605 any other name Uh and Uh, AMD, just waits for NVIDIA to give them the cover to raise 608 00:37:11,605 --> 00:37:18,515 their prices and then they're like Well it's the market it's not This is insanity 609 00:37:20,269 --> 00:37:20,309 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh AMD, 610 00:37:22,589 --> 00:37:23,299 AMD. 611 00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:26,899 AMD They never fail to capitalize on things. 612 00:37:26,899 --> 00:37:30,049 It's a good thing you bought your GPU, uh, when you did. 613 00:37:30,049 --> 00:37:30,559 Otherwise 614 00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:33,377 Gardiner: Dude tell me about it Otherwise 615 00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:40,117 I'd be spending 800 for uh the 9050 four gigabyte model coming up soon 616 00:37:40,821 --> 00:37:41,061 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Nah 617 00:37:41,637 --> 00:37:43,997 Gardiner: Dude all of the This is these are all related so I hope 618 00:37:43,997 --> 00:37:46,927 you don't mind I'm kinda running through all of these but like 619 00:37:46,967 --> 00:37:48,187 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Hey man, don't worry about it, man. 620 00:37:48,187 --> 00:37:51,337 So they have two variants, the four gigabyte model, 621 00:37:51,347 --> 00:37:53,327 which to be fair is OEM only, 622 00:37:53,721 --> 00:37:54,061 Gardiner: Mmhmm 623 00:37:54,107 --> 00:37:59,327 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and an eight gigabyte model, which is, uh, 279, which is not 624 00:37:59,327 --> 00:38:01,327 worth at its price, I should mention. 625 00:38:02,297 --> 00:38:07,357 It's literal… I might, I… I- is it too much to say it's literal e-waste? 626 00:38:08,197 --> 00:38:13,517 Gardiner: Well it depends I mean like cause okay so eight gigabytes of VRAM is 627 00:38:13,527 --> 00:38:15,657 actually enough for 1080p gaming Right. 628 00:38:15,687 --> 00:38:21,387 Like if you're still using 1080p monitor or if you don't mind having like a 1080p 629 00:38:21,677 --> 00:38:26,737 signal for your 8 4K TV or whatever it might not be that big of ewaste 630 00:38:26,737 --> 00:38:31,337 especially if see I'm not a hardware guy So this is just me speculating but like 631 00:38:31,537 --> 00:38:36,027 I genuinely feel like this probably isn't as big of a deal as we're all making 632 00:38:36,027 --> 00:38:40,507 it The four gigabyte is objectively ewaste right Like I don't that's capable 633 00:38:40,527 --> 00:38:46,077 of doing uh 1080p But eight gigs I think that that's more than capable 634 00:38:46,875 --> 00:38:49,065 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right So according to this website though, if you scroll 635 00:38:49,065 --> 00:38:50,855 up on the relative performance list 636 00:38:52,129 --> 00:38:53,259 Gardiner: Oh Yeah, right here Yep 637 00:38:54,189 --> 00:38:55,469 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah scroll… S- 638 00:38:56,329 --> 00:38:57,639 Gardiner: Steam Machine GPU 639 00:38:58,359 --> 00:39:00,069 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's 130%. 640 00:39:01,169 --> 00:39:03,879 Gardiner: Okay You're you've got to you ha you've actually fucked up if 641 00:39:03,879 --> 00:39:10,799 you've if you're manufacturing new hardware in 2026 and it's like behind 642 00:39:10,809 --> 00:39:17,345 the Steam Machine GPU in performance that's that's pretty pals uh uh paltry 643 00:39:17,645 --> 00:39:19,635 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: There's another, there, there's an entry for the 644 00:39:19,665 --> 00:39:22,895 eight gigabyte version, and it's also weaker than the Steam Machine as well. 645 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,489 Gardiner: Is 646 00:39:23,489 --> 00:39:24,099 it really 647 00:39:24,155 --> 00:39:25,715 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but like not nearly as bad 648 00:39:26,859 --> 00:39:29,349 Gardiner: Uh it's the f the 9060 or is it the 649 00:39:29,517 --> 00:39:30,747 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: 90/50. 650 00:39:31,709 --> 00:39:32,329 Gardiner: 9050 651 00:39:34,057 --> 00:39:34,577 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, hold on. 652 00:39:34,587 --> 00:39:36,007 Let me, let, let me pull it up for you. 653 00:39:36,363 --> 00:39:42,273 Gardiner: 9050 four uh eight gigabyte not seeing that 654 00:39:42,837 --> 00:39:42,917 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I 655 00:39:43,093 --> 00:39:43,463 Gardiner: oh 656 00:39:43,467 --> 00:39:44,137 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I got it for you 657 00:39:45,673 --> 00:39:46,783 Gardiner: Okay cool 658 00:39:48,883 --> 00:39:52,503 Click share this tab All right 659 00:39:56,249 --> 00:39:59,829 Steam Machine GPU Oh it's it's it's marginally better It's like 660 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:04,339 17 points ahead of the previous Wow 661 00:40:05,645 --> 00:40:06,285 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's still a, 662 00:40:06,909 --> 00:40:07,399 Gardiner: It's still 663 00:40:07,399 --> 00:40:09,039 worse than the Steam Machine GPU 664 00:40:09,435 --> 00:40:14,215 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it, it is, and at 279 it's not a cheap card 665 00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:19,925 Gardiner: No I okay the only All Right, yeah So maybe you're right. 666 00:40:19,955 --> 00:40:23,295 Maybe it it would be fair to call it ewaste I mean the only the only way that 667 00:40:23,305 --> 00:40:31,285 this isn't ewaste is one if it doesn't need if it can just draw bus power from 668 00:40:31,285 --> 00:40:37,245 the PCI card And it doesn't need like you know PCIe power from your power supply 669 00:40:39,605 --> 00:40:44,445 that way A and and if it comes in like a uh a single slot like 670 00:40:44,445 --> 00:40:48,295 half height v and you could put it in like a NAS or something to do 671 00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:52,885 transcoding or whatever that might be okay But like I just don't see this 672 00:40:52,895 --> 00:40:55,285 being practical right now you know 673 00:40:56,357 --> 00:40:56,625 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right 674 00:40:56,925 --> 00:40:57,115 Gardiner: I don't 675 00:40:57,127 --> 00:41:01,687 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And I mean, the way I see it, man, I mean, heck, it 676 00:41:01,697 --> 00:41:05,147 draws… According to the description, it, it uses an eight-pin connector 677 00:41:05,945 --> 00:41:06,585 Gardiner: Why 678 00:41:07,925 --> 00:41:08,155 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know. 679 00:41:09,085 --> 00:41:11,195 Gardiner: Okay wait So it's RDNA 4 right Four nanometer 680 00:41:12,135 --> 00:41:12,525 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right 681 00:41:13,125 --> 00:41:18,655 Gardiner: nanometer process Uh what does it have for So The clock speed 682 00:41:20,085 --> 00:41:24,625 is 1920 megahertz Boost clock is 2600 megahertz Where does that put it a 683 00:41:24,855 --> 00:41:28,355 against like uh the like the 9060 684 00:41:29,311 --> 00:41:32,141 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The regular… Is that what you have, the 9060 or the 9060XT? 685 00:41:32,247 --> 00:41:33,067 Gardiner: 9070 XT 686 00:41:33,451 --> 00:41:33,791 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh. 687 00:41:34,621 --> 00:41:36,801 Uh, I got the 9060XT. 688 00:41:38,151 --> 00:41:39,491 Where's the… What are we comparing again? 689 00:41:39,611 --> 00:41:40,261 Clock speeds? 690 00:41:40,447 --> 00:41:41,277 Gardiner: Clock speed yeah 691 00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:49,443 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, it's got, uh, the game clock is a fair bit higher with the, 692 00:41:49,443 --> 00:41:53,763 uh, 9070 XT at n- uh, 2,530 megahertz. 693 00:41:54,063 --> 00:41:54,493 Gardiner: Mmhmm 694 00:41:54,613 --> 00:41:59,083 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Boost clock goes even higher at thir- uh, 3,130 megahertz, 695 00:41:59,393 --> 00:41:59,793 Gardiner: Okay 696 00:41:59,863 --> 00:42:03,843 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and memory clock is, like, 250 hertz faster 697 00:42:04,441 --> 00:42:15,061 Gardiner: Mm And then uh for units this the what is this The 9050 698 00:42:15,101 --> 00:42:22,331 eight gigabyte has 1024 shading units uh and TMUs it has 64 699 00:42:22,829 --> 00:42:27,269 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So the 96 XT has like double all, double most of these specs. 700 00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:28,019 So it's… 701 00:42:29,383 --> 00:42:30,573 Gardiner: And what does that go retail 702 00:42:31,069 --> 00:42:32,453 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The 9060 703 00:42:32,753 --> 00:42:33,113 Gardiner: Yeah 704 00:42:33,249 --> 00:42:33,309 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: XT? 705 00:42:33,309 --> 00:42:33,879 That's a good question. 706 00:42:33,879 --> 00:42:34,469 Let's find out 707 00:42:38,165 --> 00:42:43,265 Um, uh, 459.99. 708 00:42:43,505 --> 00:42:45,975 I'm, I, I'll admit it is like double the price almost. 709 00:42:46,475 --> 00:42:47,355 Well, no, it's not double the price. 710 00:42:47,355 --> 00:42:48,865 It's like 50% more expensive 711 00:42:49,255 --> 00:42:54,575 Gardiner: Mmhmm Yeah I mean dude like it it Okay so it's not gonna fit in like a 712 00:42:54,635 --> 00:43:00,375 a limited NAS setup right Single card you know slot or like half height or anything 713 00:43:00,375 --> 00:43:08,225 like that Um that sucks And then it's half the performance um at half the price and 714 00:43:08,225 --> 00:43:14,495 a lot of games are not gonna support it that that sucks But like also I do think 715 00:43:14,495 --> 00:43:21,145 that like game budgets and like game performance targets are overinflated So 716 00:43:21,175 --> 00:43:28,215 I think that it could be an opportunity for game studios to reel uh the the 717 00:43:28,215 --> 00:43:33,795 graphics the graphics back and just like focus on gameplay that's actually fun 718 00:43:36,045 --> 00:43:42,145 I don't know cause I I don't find graphics fun I find the gameplay fun So I 719 00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:44,319 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Man, I, I don't, I couldn't tell you. 720 00:43:44,669 --> 00:43:46,279 I couldn't tell you what's happening these days. 721 00:43:46,499 --> 00:43:47,579 Everything's all fucked up 722 00:43:48,313 --> 00:43:53,333 Gardiner: Dude the 90 Okay the RX 9050 eight gigabyte is worse than 723 00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:59,533 the freaking Arc A580 so by like 2 So like and the and it's worse than 724 00:43:59,533 --> 00:44:05,843 the R RTX 2060 Super Like that's pretty that's pretty bad like in 2026 725 00:44:06,569 --> 00:44:10,149 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, the B580 is like $200, 726 00:44:10,631 --> 00:44:11,121 Gardiner: Yeah 727 00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:11,979 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: base price 728 00:44:12,331 --> 00:44:20,061 Gardiner: Right And the B580 is 139 of the performance of the 9050 8 gig 729 00:44:21,111 --> 00:44:23,671 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Let's see how much the, let's see how much the B580 is. 730 00:44:24,001 --> 00:44:27,961 Uh, B580 with 12 gigs of VRAM, 300 bucks. 731 00:44:27,981 --> 00:44:29,151 It's almost the same price. 732 00:44:29,151 --> 00:44:29,591 What the hell? 733 00:44:29,891 --> 00:44:30,341 Gardiner: Wow 734 00:44:30,911 --> 00:44:34,451 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's $300, at least this ASRock, this ASRock one is 735 00:44:36,061 --> 00:44:37,131 Gardiner: Asrock Asrock 736 00:44:38,497 --> 00:44:40,087 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, what is going on? 737 00:44:40,107 --> 00:44:41,747 What is going on with AMD? 738 00:44:41,907 --> 00:44:42,567 Seriously 739 00:44:42,867 --> 00:44:46,091 Gardiner: Yeah well I like I said they're part of the duopoly man It's th 740 00:44:46,101 --> 00:44:52,051 they're just they just wait for Sony or for um Nvidia to them the the coverage 741 00:44:52,509 --> 00:44:56,099 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: God, I hate glazing Intel because Intel was 742 00:44:56,849 --> 00:44:59,419 the problem, like, last decade. 743 00:44:59,671 --> 00:45:00,131 Gardiner: Mmhmm 744 00:45:00,229 --> 00:45:02,821 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But, like, Intel's fallen hard. 745 00:45:03,121 --> 00:45:03,581 Gardiner: Yeah 746 00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:05,939 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's like what, it's like what happened to Xbox and Microsoft. 747 00:45:05,939 --> 00:45:06,241 Shit. 748 00:45:06,541 --> 00:45:06,991 Gardiner: Yeah 749 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:10,829 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So I don't mind rooting for Nvidia… I mean, uh, 750 00:45:11,219 --> 00:45:15,819 Intel to hopefully take some, claw back some market share, 'cause goddamn 751 00:45:16,871 --> 00:45:25,901 Gardiner: Yeah I feel that Uh dude speaking of uh the mighty falling 752 00:45:27,921 --> 00:45:35,751 Sony console generation leader for for multiple generations now uh doubling 753 00:45:35,751 --> 00:45:41,921 down on axing physical game discs and uh they're moving ahead cautiously according 754 00:45:41,921 --> 00:45:44,705 to their CFO Uh tell us about this HiTech 755 00:45:45,005 --> 00:45:48,315 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So their response reads as like a, "Oh, 756 00:45:48,315 --> 00:45:48,985 we've heard your feedback." 757 00:45:49,647 --> 00:45:50,427 Gardiner: And we don't care 758 00:45:52,045 --> 00:45:55,145 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, so they, so apparently they've heard, 759 00:45:55,715 --> 00:45:58,817 they've heard o- they've heard our complaints loud and clear, 760 00:45:59,117 --> 00:45:59,517 Gardiner: Mmhmm 761 00:45:59,975 --> 00:46:01,835 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and, uh, they don't care. 762 00:46:02,195 --> 00:46:06,005 I mean, well, I mean, if they cared, they would've been like we- they 763 00:46:06,005 --> 00:46:08,955 would've said at the very least, "We're reconsidering it," but no, they're 764 00:46:08,955 --> 00:46:11,365 just moving, they're just moving forward 'cause no one gives a fuck 765 00:46:11,845 --> 00:46:14,045 Gardiner: We'll make more money if we don't listen to what you have to say 766 00:46:14,541 --> 00:46:15,015 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 767 00:46:15,331 --> 00:46:15,955 Gardiner: it anyway 768 00:46:16,551 --> 00:46:20,041 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Unfortunately though, we have to consider if this is also 769 00:46:20,591 --> 00:46:24,171 actually true that people… Like, the silent majority rule, we can't 770 00:46:24,171 --> 00:46:25,501 for- we can never forget about that. 771 00:46:26,351 --> 00:46:29,251 I'm wondering if that's in effect here too, if there's just that many 772 00:46:29,251 --> 00:46:34,801 PlayStation gamers out there just living their lives buying COD and FIFA 773 00:46:34,881 --> 00:46:38,041 and, um, Madden every year digitally 774 00:46:38,777 --> 00:46:39,021 Gardiner: Mmhmm 775 00:46:39,321 --> 00:46:39,401 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: G- 776 00:46:39,477 --> 00:46:44,307 Gardiner: they are it's by design right Like the m Sony wa has wanted this as 777 00:46:44,307 --> 00:46:50,857 bad as Microsoft has for at least one console generation right but they saw 778 00:46:50,857 --> 00:46:56,437 the marketing opportunity uh you know in 2020 in 2013 or whenever to screw over 779 00:46:56,697 --> 00:47:00,967 Xbox and so they took it But they've wanted this just as long as Microsoft 780 00:47:00,967 --> 00:47:06,287 has And so this is this is about like Well it's we're done pretending We don't 781 00:47:06,287 --> 00:47:11,797 care uh and we stand to make way more money if we have a complete monopoly over 782 00:47:11,797 --> 00:47:14,597 distribution Um and that's what this is 783 00:47:16,339 --> 00:47:17,539 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Ah, fuck man. 784 00:47:18,579 --> 00:47:22,679 So, I mean, what, I mean, what more is there to say? 785 00:47:22,759 --> 00:47:24,219 Sony has killed it. 786 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,149 They're moving forward. 787 00:47:25,479 --> 00:47:28,549 They said they've heard our feedback and it's over. 788 00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:31,779 Now, the real question though, the, the, but the real battle is 789 00:47:31,779 --> 00:47:34,077 not this year or even next year 790 00:47:34,377 --> 00:47:38,377 Gardiner: Mmhmm 791 00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:43,549 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: How many of the people that claim that PlayStation's dead 792 00:47:43,549 --> 00:47:44,739 and that they hate it are gonna… 793 00:47:44,869 --> 00:47:48,249 I mean, I don't doubt us not buying PlayStation 6s, 794 00:47:48,455 --> 00:47:48,875 Gardiner: Mmhmm 795 00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:54,019 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but like your average guy on the internet sees the next 796 00:47:54,209 --> 00:48:01,119 like Spider-Man game, PS6 exclusive, God of War, uh, God of War Six or 797 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,089 whatever, God of War V or Six or Seven 798 00:48:05,351 --> 00:48:10,181 Gardiner: Yeah I mean that's doing a lot of assumptions though because the the big 799 00:48:10,191 --> 00:48:17,541 question is there even be a PS6 or like a Xbox a next generation Xbox Because 800 00:48:17,831 --> 00:48:24,551 the way RAM prices are going I don't see this shit um getting any better by then 801 00:48:24,601 --> 00:48:29,981 Things are only going to get worse for you know hardware prices I just don't 802 00:48:30,031 --> 00:48:33,651 I don't even know if Sony's gonna be able to release an affordable console 803 00:48:35,181 --> 00:48:38,781 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, $1,000 PlayStation 6. 804 00:48:38,871 --> 00:48:39,899 Who's looking forward to that? 805 00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,579 Gardiner: A 1400 PlayStation 6 Like dude that's where shit's going 806 00:48:46,451 --> 00:48:47,271 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Take it or leave it 807 00:48:49,769 --> 00:48:55,949 Gardiner: Oh my God dude Yeah we're we're in we're in the deep shit now dude and 808 00:48:55,959 --> 00:48:57,963 it's it's just gonna keep getting worse 809 00:48:58,263 --> 00:49:01,253 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Xbox isn't much better too, and word has it, you get- y- 810 00:49:01,273 --> 00:49:05,223 did you hear about, um, did you hear about how Project Helix or whatever 811 00:49:05,223 --> 00:49:08,043 it's called was gonna run Steam games? 812 00:49:08,847 --> 00:49:12,737 Gardiner: No Oh yeah I heard that it Yeah I heard that it was going to s to run them 813 00:49:13,321 --> 00:49:15,881 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I've heard that they're reconsidering that. 814 00:49:16,197 --> 00:49:16,547 Gardiner: Yeah 815 00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:18,251 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: In fact, they might be reconsidering putting 816 00:49:18,291 --> 00:49:20,741 Xbox games on Steam altogether 817 00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,549 Gardiner: Yeah Yep That I mean 818 00:49:24,917 --> 00:49:25,087 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And 819 00:49:25,529 --> 00:49:28,029 Gardiner: sense from the business perspective for them 820 00:49:31,499 --> 00:49:36,589 You know if if they wanna if they wanna move consoles the way 821 00:49:36,589 --> 00:49:41,669 you move consoles is by selling exclusives That's how you do it And 822 00:49:41,669 --> 00:49:46,379 I know it's gonna piss off a lot of people and I think uh you know leadership 823 00:49:46,379 --> 00:49:51,819 at Xbox has has really con set themself up now Like previous leadership at 824 00:49:51,819 --> 00:49:54,999 Xbox have set themselves up for failure now because they're going to have to 825 00:49:55,009 --> 00:50:00,269 go back to exclusives if they wanna move consoles and that's just n people 826 00:50:00,269 --> 00:50:01,589 are not gonna be happy about that 827 00:50:02,093 --> 00:50:05,243 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, but the other question is what Xbox exclusives, like 828 00:50:05,253 --> 00:50:07,683 modern Xbox exclusives are even worth it? 829 00:50:07,683 --> 00:50:08,013 Like 830 00:50:08,391 --> 00:50:10,691 Gardiner: Yeah Not 831 00:50:10,701 --> 00:50:10,901 many Yeah 832 00:50:11,399 --> 00:50:13,649 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I've heard, Ha- I've heard mixed opinions 833 00:50:13,649 --> 00:50:15,589 on Halo: Campaign Evolved. 834 00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:19,279 I mean, I'm sure it's, I'm sure it's a fine game, but, like, 835 00:50:19,919 --> 00:50:21,029 it's not super interesting. 836 00:50:21,029 --> 00:50:23,789 It's Halo 1, and I have Halo 1 on Steam. 837 00:50:25,073 --> 00:50:28,623 Gardiner: Well dude and also like Microsoft is right now divesting of 838 00:50:28,783 --> 00:50:34,313 like some of their most valuable IP I mean Psychonauts right Like D Double 839 00:50:34,313 --> 00:50:38,073 Fine right They they've they sold that off They sold off a bunch of other 840 00:50:38,073 --> 00:50:43,623 studios They've they've uh they had a hit with um Oh my God what was that 841 00:50:44,023 --> 00:50:47,153 what was that game that e the Japanese game that everybody loved and I I 842 00:50:47,153 --> 00:50:49,243 can't remember the name of it The Xbox 843 00:50:50,135 --> 00:50:51,045 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Lost Odyssey? 844 00:50:51,343 --> 00:50:53,813 Gardiner: No no Um it most like within the last 845 00:50:53,865 --> 00:50:55,035 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, HiFi Rush 846 00:50:55,335 --> 00:50:58,633 Gardiner: HiFi Rush Yeah they had like a hit with that and then they were like 847 00:50:58,633 --> 00:51:03,063 Oh uh it didn't sell enough copies so we're just gonna fucking kill the studio 848 00:51:03,063 --> 00:51:10,143 And then it's like Microsoft has not had any kind of strategy for Xbox at 849 00:51:10,143 --> 00:51:12,923 all And so like and I mean Hi-Fi Rush 850 00:51:12,943 --> 00:51:20,713 was like one of the few like original IPs coming to Xbox and they didn't they 851 00:51:20,713 --> 00:51:25,493 didn't uh capitalize on it Uh oh i I mean right now what does Microsoft have 852 00:51:25,503 --> 00:51:31,313 for for first party c uh games They have Halo and that's a dead franchise 853 00:51:31,333 --> 00:51:33,373 basically They have Gears of War 854 00:51:33,431 --> 00:51:34,351 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Don't say that 855 00:51:34,483 --> 00:51:38,383 Gardiner: Dude it is it is How many times have has Microsoft rereleased 856 00:51:38,383 --> 00:51:44,703 Halo Campaign Evolved or uh Combat Evolved Five times Six times Like they 857 00:51:44,703 --> 00:51:49,813 have no original ideas and there's no creativity i in the team behind uh Halo 858 00:51:49,813 --> 00:51:55,013 anymore And they've what they have Gears of War they have uh Forza right And 859 00:51:55,013 --> 00:52:02,763 it's like what else has Microsoft done that's original in the last decade I 860 00:52:02,763 --> 00:52:07,743 genuinely I that's a genuine question That they haven't also immediately 861 00:52:07,743 --> 00:52:09,613 squandered right Like HiFi Rush 862 00:52:10,103 --> 00:52:10,573 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Forza 863 00:52:12,167 --> 00:52:17,317 Gardiner: Yeah but like Forza it's the s it's just driving again Like Forza 864 00:52:17,317 --> 00:52:22,087 Horizon 6 was pretty fun but like I've played that game before I'm 865 00:52:22,087 --> 00:52:27,507 driving on the the other side of the road It's like whoopdedoo Yeah 866 00:52:27,867 --> 00:52:30,987 And which just got a rerelease of the original game which is pretty 867 00:52:31,419 --> 00:52:32,649 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, and they're coming out with a new, 868 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:34,849 uh, a new prequel too, I guess 869 00:52:34,951 --> 00:52:36,171 Gardiner: Yeah Oh Yeah. 870 00:52:36,171 --> 00:52:40,561 I did see that yeah But I mean but like I'm talking like original like what 871 00:52:40,601 --> 00:52:47,771 original IPs has Microsoft like developed in the last decade Very few if any 872 00:52:49,005 --> 00:52:50,565 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah I don't know, man. 873 00:52:50,565 --> 00:52:50,575 It's 874 00:52:51,985 --> 00:52:55,075 Gardiner: I'm sorry I'm depressing This is this is getting very depressed 875 00:52:55,226 --> 00:52:57,851 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: i- it is, it is, but it's the truth. 876 00:52:58,061 --> 00:52:59,601 What matters is it's the truth. 877 00:53:00,131 --> 00:53:01,971 Sony doesn't give a fuck. 878 00:53:01,971 --> 00:53:06,521 Microsoft… I mean, I would say PC gaming, but PC gaming's 879 00:53:06,521 --> 00:53:08,961 becoming far too expensive. 880 00:53:09,435 --> 00:53:09,605 Gardiner: Mmhmm 881 00:53:09,905 --> 00:53:13,041 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: imagine a world where the Steam Machine ends up being the 882 00:53:13,041 --> 00:53:15,181 cheapest and arguably best option. 883 00:53:15,311 --> 00:53:18,041 I mean, not objectively, not objectively best because it's not the most 884 00:53:18,041 --> 00:53:20,961 performed, but, like, best bang per buck 885 00:53:21,701 --> 00:53:25,511 Gardiner: Well I mean yeah if it does then you're gonna have to protect it 886 00:53:25,521 --> 00:53:30,601 man Like uh like this guy did where he built built a Steam machine that 887 00:53:30,601 --> 00:53:33,951 like prevents his family members from playing it because he wants to 888 00:53:36,873 --> 00:53:40,343 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So he built spikes and a working taser. 889 00:53:40,903 --> 00:53:41,283 Gardiner: That 890 00:53:41,393 --> 00:53:42,653 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'm assuming that's a working taser 891 00:53:43,193 --> 00:53:44,733 Gardiner: yeah Oh that's a taser 892 00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:45,783 I thought that was Like a 893 00:53:46,589 --> 00:53:47,569 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like a spotlight? 894 00:53:48,153 --> 00:53:48,779 Gardiner: Yeah 895 00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:52,079 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Nah, man, that's a t- nah, man, it's a fucking taser 896 00:53:53,263 --> 00:53:56,563 Gardiner: my God dude W so why did so he built this because he 897 00:53:56,563 --> 00:53:59,033 didn't want his family playing his Steam Machine or Steam Deck 898 00:53:59,701 --> 00:54:02,901 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well, I'm sure he just built it for shits and giggles, but 899 00:54:03,381 --> 00:54:05,221 that's his, quote, "justification." 900 00:54:05,933 --> 00:54:08,683 Gardiner: Oh Oh my gosh 901 00:54:08,801 --> 00:54:10,761 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: way there w- no way he would actually build this 902 00:54:10,761 --> 00:54:14,491 and leave it around for kids to accidentally, like, get electrocuted with 903 00:54:14,813 --> 00:54:21,743 Gardiner: Right Oh my gosh this is ridiculous Okay so all right So tell me 904 00:54:21,893 --> 00:54:27,733 tell me more about this Like what uh Oh my gosh So it looks like 3Dprinted spikes 905 00:54:28,033 --> 00:54:33,323 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, three-prong spikes, and it has a functioning taser. 906 00:54:33,803 --> 00:54:35,283 They rigged up a Raspberry Pi. 907 00:54:35,303 --> 00:54:39,533 They have an, quote, "object detection camera." It plays a, quote, 908 00:54:39,543 --> 00:54:44,573 "goofy audio clip," and it sets off a taser, a front-mounted taser 909 00:54:46,163 --> 00:54:46,773 Gardiner: Very funny Hmm 910 00:54:47,957 --> 00:54:51,637 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know, I don't know if this is functional 911 00:54:51,637 --> 00:54:52,717 without being plugged in. 912 00:54:52,807 --> 00:54:54,107 I'm g- I'm gonna level with you. 913 00:54:56,047 --> 00:54:59,757 And I don't know how much more battery this thing would take y- because 914 00:54:59,757 --> 00:55:01,557 you have a taser attached to it 915 00:55:01,879 --> 00:55:05,569 Gardiner: Usually tasers have their own battery so you'd you'd have 916 00:55:05,569 --> 00:55:06,899 to charge it independently but 917 00:55:07,847 --> 00:55:08,647 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: true, true 918 00:55:08,949 --> 00:55:09,349 Gardiner: huh 919 00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:15,229 And so he did So apparently this Redditor didn't wanna simply put a password on his 920 00:55:15,229 --> 00:55:19,519 Steam Deck and leave it This minimizes the risk to them touching my Steam Deck 921 00:55:19,529 --> 00:55:27,369 at all Uh they are forced to ask for permission now Wow This is And then he 922 00:55:27,369 --> 00:55:31,059 said that This is easily the dumbest thing I've ever built but it works and 923 00:55:31,059 --> 00:55:32,689 nobody touches my Steam Deck anymore 924 00:55:33,133 --> 00:55:34,613 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, I can see why. 925 00:55:35,047 --> 00:55:35,527 Gardiner: Yeah 926 00:55:36,293 --> 00:55:36,793 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, 927 00:55:37,127 --> 00:55:37,657 Gardiner: Wow 928 00:55:38,423 --> 00:55:40,993 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: might be time for you to build your own fortified Steam 929 00:55:40,993 --> 00:55:45,983 Deck with a, with, uh, mount- mounting tasers and, uh, heck, why not- why 930 00:55:45,983 --> 00:55:47,413 not add some machine guns to it too? 931 00:55:47,917 --> 00:55:51,457 Gardiner: Right Turn it into a a Steam or a Portal turret 932 00:55:53,133 --> 00:55:54,833 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh my God, do it Gardner. 933 00:55:55,123 --> 00:55:56,133 We have to see it. 934 00:55:56,433 --> 00:56:02,169 Gardiner: Yeah Well I mean thankfully everyone in my house has um uh their 935 00:56:02,169 --> 00:56:06,783 own Steam Machine so that's pretty cool Or a Steam Deck I should say Um 936 00:56:07,083 --> 00:56:07,393 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: has her own 937 00:56:08,029 --> 00:56:11,629 Gardiner: yeah She has So she has the one that Valve sent me originally and 938 00:56:11,629 --> 00:56:16,349 then I have my my Steam Deck that I Oh no I have the OLED that Valve sent 939 00:56:16,349 --> 00:56:23,769 me and then I bought a Steam Deck like after Valve sent me one to review and I 940 00:56:23,769 --> 00:56:24,049 ended 941 00:56:24,049 --> 00:56:25,589 up selling that to my brother so 942 00:56:25,983 --> 00:56:26,953 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Nice, nice. 943 00:56:27,749 --> 00:56:30,119 Gardiner: But you know you know what There is some other Good news? 944 00:56:30,259 --> 00:56:33,139 in the Steam uh in the Steam Deck world 945 00:56:33,563 --> 00:56:34,073 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Good news 946 00:56:34,169 --> 00:56:41,599 Gardiner: uh frame pacing for the Steam Deck has improved is pretty awesome I 947 00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:45,249 mean uh like I've already been pretty happy with Steam Steam Deck performance 948 00:56:45,249 --> 00:56:51,579 cause most of the games I play are like 2D sidescrollers Um but uh no this is 949 00:56:51,579 --> 00:56:52,989 pretty cool So tell us about this HiTech 950 00:56:53,461 --> 00:56:57,501 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: More performance is never a bad thing, even for 2D side-scrollers. 951 00:56:57,871 --> 00:57:01,681 But essentially, this improves your 1% lows. 952 00:57:01,681 --> 00:57:05,281 And for those who don't know, your 1% lows are an average of all of your 1% 953 00:57:05,301 --> 00:57:08,471 lowest frame rates throughout, like, a session or a benchmark or whatever, 954 00:57:08,825 --> 00:57:09,235 Gardiner: Mmhmm 955 00:57:09,551 --> 00:57:11,321 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and it's an average of that. 956 00:57:11,641 --> 00:57:15,341 So essentially, your 1% lows are super important because that 957 00:57:15,341 --> 00:57:19,831 dictates game feel because it's like you're stuttering and stuff, right 958 00:57:20,103 --> 00:57:23,903 Gardiner: Yeah So if you if if an average frame takes you know 15 959 00:57:24,263 --> 00:57:29,953 milliseconds but then um every once in a while it takes 30 milliseconds 960 00:57:29,953 --> 00:57:33,453 those are gonna be your 1 lows And that's and you'll feel that right? 961 00:57:33,943 --> 00:57:34,373 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right. 962 00:57:34,793 --> 00:57:40,183 And so this meta engineer, uh, David Vernet, pr- seems like a pretty 963 00:57:40,183 --> 00:57:42,883 cool guy 'cause he built something that made the Steam Deck better. 964 00:57:43,513 --> 00:57:48,883 EPP boost, it changes how CPU cores swap between performance modes without waiting 965 00:57:48,883 --> 00:57:51,153 for the clocks to increase manually. 966 00:57:51,253 --> 00:57:51,583 Um, 967 00:57:52,341 --> 00:57:52,351 Gardiner: Uh 968 00:57:52,683 --> 00:58:00,073 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and so it improved the 99%, uh, percentile frame time by 4.1%. 969 00:58:00,653 --> 00:58:04,873 Uh, average frame rate stayed the same for the most part, but an increase… But 970 00:58:04,883 --> 00:58:06,443 it was still an increase to your 1% lows. 971 00:58:06,473 --> 00:58:10,465 And in some cases he's observed a 31% increase to your 1% lows 972 00:58:10,765 --> 00:58:15,185 Gardiner: Wow That's really cool a meta engineer 973 00:58:15,405 --> 00:58:16,095 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, so he, uh, 974 00:58:16,285 --> 00:58:16,515 Gardiner: Wow 975 00:58:16,685 --> 00:58:19,945 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: he, uh, works on Linux stuff from Meta, I guess. 976 00:58:19,945 --> 00:58:20,355 I don't know 977 00:58:21,031 --> 00:58:26,781 Gardiner: That's cool I will say like Meta is actually a pretty um prolific open 978 00:58:26,851 --> 00:58:31,301 source contributor which is good of them 979 00:58:33,087 --> 00:58:36,061 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, if they, they could be, they could be a better company. 980 00:58:36,361 --> 00:58:37,351 Gardiner: They could be yeah 981 00:58:37,787 --> 00:58:40,557 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And they have the, the, they could pivot around and 982 00:58:41,197 --> 00:58:43,887 sell all their ability to, they could just stop taking data and, 983 00:58:43,897 --> 00:58:45,947 like, be a good company, but yeah 984 00:58:46,681 --> 00:58:47,341 Gardiner: They could 985 00:58:48,269 --> 00:58:50,661 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They probably couldn't hire guys like David Vernet though. 986 00:58:50,961 --> 00:58:51,371 Gardiner: Mmhmm 987 00:58:51,849 --> 00:58:54,059 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, so th- that's besides the point though. 988 00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:58,869 The point is that it's a, it's not just, it's not just a k- pr- kernel patch, but 989 00:58:58,869 --> 00:59:03,019 it's also, it's not just for the Steam Deck, but it's also for AMD CPUs as well. 990 00:59:03,127 --> 00:59:03,269 Um, 991 00:59:03,427 --> 00:59:03,757 Gardiner: Mmhmm 992 00:59:03,849 --> 00:59:07,479 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you go to the Phoronix page, I think you might see a link 993 00:59:07,479 --> 00:59:09,509 to their, the whole manifest there. 994 00:59:11,319 --> 00:59:13,739 Uh, so yeah, it, it's got more details. 995 00:59:13,739 --> 00:59:15,549 We should've linked to Phoronix instead 996 00:59:16,647 --> 00:59:17,627 Gardiner: This patch series 997 00:59:18,509 --> 00:59:19,029 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 998 00:59:19,189 --> 00:59:22,149 So this patch series, yes, I think that's what it is. 999 00:59:22,989 --> 00:59:23,699 There we go. 1000 00:59:24,429 --> 00:59:27,159 It's a long, long… So I scoured it, 1001 00:59:27,505 --> 00:59:27,945 Gardiner: Hmm 1002 00:59:28,359 --> 00:59:30,669 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and it appears to be a CPU patch. 1003 00:59:30,669 --> 00:59:34,859 So in theory, any device that uses an AMD CPU should benefit 1004 00:59:35,385 --> 00:59:36,175 Gardiner: That's super cool 1005 00:59:37,429 --> 00:59:41,429 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Which includes our Steam machines, your home 1006 00:59:41,439 --> 00:59:43,249 brew one and my actual one 1007 00:59:44,537 --> 00:59:49,597 Gardiner: Absolutely Dude see this is the power of open source right Like I w 1008 00:59:49,597 --> 00:59:53,077 I remember w uh I was watching uh I don't remember who it was but I was watching a 1009 00:59:53,077 --> 01:00:02,267 YouTuber who built his own Steam machine and he wasn't like a Linux guy but he 1010 01:00:02,267 --> 01:00:07,177 was a gaming guy And he and then he ran an update and the update said When this 1011 01:00:07,207 --> 01:00:13,507 update runs or After this update finish it will free like 20 megabytes from 1012 01:00:13,507 --> 01:00:19,157 your from your drive And he was like An update that frees storage Like how is 1013 01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:24,327 that possible But like it just shows that like everyone's conditioned to like uh 1014 01:00:24,547 --> 01:00:30,657 by Microsoft especially to like expect just evergrowing bloat right And so it 1015 01:00:30,657 --> 01:00:34,627 might have been Luke Lafreniere from uh LTT who said that But it's like that 1016 01:00:34,637 --> 01:00:38,837 kind of That's the kind of thing that with open source that you just cannot 1017 01:00:38,847 --> 01:00:43,637 expect from closed source software and like everybody works together to make 1018 01:00:43,937 --> 01:00:49,057 the kernel better and that's really really exciting I don't know I love it 1019 01:00:50,733 --> 01:00:51,753 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, yes. 1020 01:00:51,843 --> 01:00:55,463 Uh, and I mean, I, I don't fully understand everything that 1021 01:00:55,463 --> 01:00:57,143 happened, like, in this manifest. 1022 01:00:57,143 --> 01:00:57,823 I did read it through. 1023 01:00:57,823 --> 01:01:01,463 I tried to glance over what I could, but it's still, it's still impressive 1024 01:01:01,463 --> 01:01:05,389 that there's still so much to, like, squeeze out of this hardware. 1025 01:01:05,689 --> 01:01:05,779 Gardiner: Oh 1026 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:09,223 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It really makes you wonder how games would run if 1027 01:01:09,393 --> 01:01:11,293 everyone was perfectly efficient 1028 01:01:11,687 --> 01:01:19,267 Gardiner: Yeah Dude I mean it uh I think it shows the artificiality of the progress 1029 01:01:19,397 --> 01:01:25,197 uh of hardware right Like is so much to be squeezed out of the Steam Machine and 1030 01:01:25,197 --> 01:01:29,577 the Steam Deck It's like when people are like Oh well it's uh it's dated hardware 1031 01:01:29,577 --> 01:01:35,097 it's like if you go back and grab like you know an Apple II that's that hardware 1032 01:01:35,097 --> 01:01:38,947 still runs the the software that was written for it and it runs it great you 1033 01:01:38,947 --> 01:01:44,347 know It's like at a certain point like what kind of progress do we have when we 1034 01:01:44,357 --> 01:01:51,347 expect all of the stuff we're buying today to be ewaste tomorrow Like I don't I just 1035 01:01:51,347 --> 01:01:56,807 want people to realize like that the the progress that we all experience is a lot 1036 01:01:56,807 --> 01:02:01,977 of like FOMO and hype and bullshit and it doesn't actually make sense a lot of the 1037 01:02:01,987 --> 01:02:06,007 time It's like there's still so much you can do with a Steam Deck There's still 1038 01:02:06,017 --> 01:02:11,797 so much you can do with a Steam Machine Um and it's it's uh yeah I don't know 1039 01:02:14,545 --> 01:02:17,535 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well, hopefully at some point though, I mean, the idea is 1040 01:02:17,535 --> 01:02:22,945 that the Steam Machine h- the Steam Deck held up pretty well as like the lo- the 1041 01:02:22,945 --> 01:02:26,265 low-end like base standard that every like developer should develop against. 1042 01:02:26,633 --> 01:02:26,983 Gardiner: Yeah 1043 01:02:27,175 --> 01:02:30,335 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'm hoping the Steam Machine is that way too moving forward. 1044 01:02:30,345 --> 01:02:32,525 I know at some point the Steam Deck's gonna be outdated in 1045 01:02:32,525 --> 01:02:34,235 like another five years or so. 1046 01:02:34,743 --> 01:02:35,043 Gardiner: Yeah 1047 01:02:35,655 --> 01:02:38,385 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But I think I, I, I mean, sh- 1048 01:02:38,387 --> 01:02:40,227 Gardiner: decade on from its release yeah 1049 01:02:40,345 --> 01:02:40,725 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: yeah 1050 01:02:41,757 --> 01:02:45,747 Gardiner: But you know e even then it'll still be able to play games like the GOG 1051 01:02:45,747 --> 01:02:51,897 games you know Games that are like old uh outdated but still m definitely worth 1052 01:02:51,897 --> 01:02:57,237 playing And uh what a segue that was to our next story GOG Galaxy is coming 1053 01:02:57,237 --> 01:03:00,367 to Linux this is this is super cool 1054 01:03:01,361 --> 01:03:02,361 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Mm-hmm. 1055 01:03:02,371 --> 01:03:02,531 Mm-hmm. 1056 01:03:02,541 --> 01:03:06,427 So you know that job listing that they mentioned needing a Linux engineer? 1057 01:03:06,727 --> 01:03:07,117 Gardiner: Yeah 1058 01:03:07,171 --> 01:03:08,081 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They found him, 1059 01:03:08,807 --> 01:03:09,207 Gardiner: Yep 1060 01:03:09,391 --> 01:03:11,141 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and they're getting him up to speed, and 1061 01:03:11,241 --> 01:03:13,201 they're, uh, doing stuff right now. 1062 01:03:13,281 --> 01:03:15,111 It's not out yet, j- just to be clear. 1063 01:03:15,907 --> 01:03:15,927 Gardiner: Yeah 1064 01:03:16,331 --> 01:03:17,381 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They say it's a significant 1065 01:03:17,381 --> 01:03:20,781 undertaking, but it's happening 1066 01:03:21,681 --> 01:03:25,701 Gardiner: Yeah It this uh this has been telegraphed for quite some time I mean y 1067 01:03:25,811 --> 01:03:30,061 Like you said there was that job listing and it's been one of the most requested 1068 01:03:30,061 --> 01:03:37,411 features for GOG Galaxy on GOG Um and and it's cool You know and uh and if you have 1069 01:03:37,411 --> 01:03:42,094 a a library on GOG you can already use Heroic Game Launcher which is a tremendous 1070 01:03:42,401 --> 01:03:46,761 tool that gives you not only access to your GOG library but also uh your Epic 1071 01:03:46,771 --> 01:03:53,231 Games library and um there's one other one Amazon I think Um and it's it's it's 1072 01:03:53,231 --> 01:03:58,011 super neat so um definitely check out Heroic But you know there are some cool 1073 01:03:58,011 --> 01:04:03,051 things that that uh Galaxy does that I don't think Heroic does And uh it'll 1074 01:04:03,061 --> 01:04:05,411 just be cool to have firstparty support 1075 01:04:06,107 --> 01:04:07,207 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like what the, like what the, I don't, 1076 01:04:07,247 --> 01:04:08,727 I don't know what Galaxy does. 1077 01:04:09,027 --> 01:04:12,015 Gardiner: Well I believe there are achievements in Galaxy that I don't think 1078 01:04:12,015 --> 01:04:14,567 Heroic supports um and stuff like that 1079 01:04:14,867 --> 01:04:17,317 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, well is it, is it not possible or I guess 1080 01:04:17,743 --> 01:04:21,493 Gardiner: I don't know I'm not 100 sure Um actually you know what I might 1081 01:04:21,493 --> 01:04:31,183 have misspoken Heroic GOG achievements Um but also like with The other thing 1082 01:04:31,193 --> 01:04:36,483 is with GOG being invested in making a firstparty client for Linux it also 1083 01:04:36,483 --> 01:04:41,753 makes them uh somewhat invested in you know improving Linux performance 1084 01:04:41,753 --> 01:04:47,083 overall and maybe next time we see a kernel update uh f or or a kernel patch 1085 01:04:48,113 --> 01:04:50,563 came from GOG to to improve performance 1086 01:04:51,661 --> 01:04:53,181 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: GOG is good stuff, man. 1087 01:04:53,191 --> 01:04:56,371 I mean, I don't spend a whole lot of money there personally. 1088 01:04:56,371 --> 01:04:59,091 I don't, I don't think I've ever spent… I'm not gonna lie, I don't 1089 01:04:59,091 --> 01:05:00,805 think I've ever spent any money at GOG. 1090 01:05:01,105 --> 01:05:01,445 Gardiner: Mmhmm 1091 01:05:01,461 --> 01:05:04,481 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But I have, but I have a GOG library in my account for some reason. 1092 01:05:04,481 --> 01:05:05,801 I have a bunch of games somehow. 1093 01:05:06,461 --> 01:05:09,901 And they, they, they just magically show up in my fucking library 1094 01:05:10,359 --> 01:05:15,019 Gardiner: Well I mean dude Amazon like if you buy like games on Amazon um or if 1095 01:05:15,019 --> 01:05:19,709 you have like Amazon Prime and you redeem those um monthly free games you'll often 1096 01:05:19,709 --> 01:05:23,199 get a bunch of uh GOG games from it Um 1097 01:05:23,701 --> 01:05:24,711 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That's true, ' cause, 1098 01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:24,949 Gardiner: yeah 1099 01:05:25,311 --> 01:05:26,331 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I have one of those. 1100 01:05:26,331 --> 01:05:27,171 I have a Twitch Prime. 1101 01:05:27,171 --> 01:05:32,041 My sister pays for Amazon… Well, I have an Amazon Prime, but my sister pays for 1102 01:05:32,041 --> 01:05:34,161 it, because she does all the shopping. 1103 01:05:34,211 --> 01:05:36,771 And so free Amazon Prime. 1104 01:05:36,771 --> 01:05:39,391 Life hack, have someone else pay your subscriptions for you. 1105 01:05:41,767 --> 01:05:42,097 Gardiner: Yeah 1106 01:05:42,101 --> 01:05:45,491 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, but yeah, I, I mean, it… Shit, man. 1107 01:05:45,491 --> 01:05:46,161 It's good stuff 1108 01:05:47,559 --> 01:05:54,149 Gardiner: Yeah Uh dude so it's pretty cool I mean I I just love to see this 1109 01:05:54,179 --> 01:05:58,679 this kind of thing happening And of course uh Liam got the scoop and was able to 1110 01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:06,219 actually talk to uh the CE the new CEO Krzysztof uh Paplinski Uh and Krzysztof 1111 01:06:06,259 --> 01:06:09,859 said Linux continues to be one of the topics we hear the most about from our 1112 01:06:09,859 --> 01:06:13,679 community and we really appreciate the passion and patience of everyone who's 1113 01:06:13,679 --> 01:06:18,409 been asking about it Uh following the role we announced earlier this year we now have 1114 01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:22,469 the specialist on board and are actively exploring the best ways to approach 1115 01:06:22,509 --> 01:06:27,779 Linux support for GOG Galaxy This is a significant undertaking so we're not ready 1116 01:06:27,779 --> 01:06:32,429 to share any specific plans timelines or results just yet Uh it's very much uh 1117 01:06:32,439 --> 01:06:38,509 an an uh an arena we're investing time and effort into Also like know they're 1118 01:06:38,509 --> 01:06:44,059 they're gonna be distributing games you know Linux game or games for Linux uh 1119 01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:48,059 through this client and that means that they might be They might just be leaning 1120 01:06:48,059 --> 01:06:51,409 on Proton right Proton is open source The 1121 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,315 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: would, they would have to 'cause they, they do have Windows games 1122 01:06:54,315 --> 01:06:55,855 on there, Windows only games on there too 1123 01:06:56,167 --> 01:07:00,777 Gardiner: Exactly And so if they if if they start inc incorporating Proton that 1124 01:07:00,777 --> 01:07:05,547 means that they might just uh be pushing changes upstream that help support uh the 1125 01:07:05,547 --> 01:07:11,237 games on their platform which will then thereby make Proton that much better And 1126 01:07:11,257 --> 01:07:17,947 this is the kind This is the virtuous cycle of um you know open source You 1127 01:07:17,947 --> 01:07:23,207 know you get m m multiple stakeholders involved uh who are making money off 1128 01:07:23,207 --> 01:07:28,517 of this stuff and paying developers to improve the open source And and that 1129 01:07:28,547 --> 01:07:34,327 is why open source is so powerful and so much better than uh than proprietary 1130 01:07:34,327 --> 01:07:40,017 software Um also I it looks like I was wrong I think Heroic does actually support 1131 01:07:40,507 --> 01:07:49,847 uh GOG um achievements But still having like software developing Linux software 1132 01:07:49,937 --> 01:07:52,087 improves open source for everybody so 1133 01:07:52,431 --> 01:07:52,571 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right. 1134 01:07:52,611 --> 01:07:57,311 Like, I think, I mean, I don't, I mean, I'm sure in some way this'll 1135 01:07:57,311 --> 01:08:00,661 make, uh, Hero Games better too. 1136 01:08:00,661 --> 01:08:03,401 I'm, I'm not, I don't know what would be better, but I'm sure 1137 01:08:03,401 --> 01:08:05,051 it'll, it'll improve somehow, right? 1138 01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:10,795 Gardiner: Yeah, I mean if if like I said if uh GOG is is uh improving the Linux 1139 01:08:10,825 --> 01:08:15,025 kernel or if they're improving Proton that benefits Heroic as well right 1140 01:08:15,045 --> 01:08:21,315 Because Pro they they rely on Wine and Proton to uh to in order to distribute 1141 01:08:21,525 --> 01:08:24,895 those games now and that's a good thing 1142 01:08:26,221 --> 01:08:31,281 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah man, it's… I, I wanna try out GOG Galaxy on Steam. 1143 01:08:31,281 --> 01:08:33,771 I, I wonder how it's gonna… I, I know, like, you could probably 1144 01:08:33,771 --> 01:08:36,361 just run a s- Linux desktop and I think it'd be preferable. 1145 01:08:36,761 --> 01:08:39,841 But I wanna know how it interacts with, like, the Steam game system. 1146 01:08:39,841 --> 01:08:43,251 If you're just gonna have to add, like, the GOG Galaxy 1147 01:08:43,251 --> 01:08:44,951 shortcut as a non-Steam game. 1148 01:08:45,311 --> 01:08:45,901 Probably, right? 1149 01:08:47,431 --> 01:08:50,661 Gardiner: Yeah I'm not sure Um I think yeah you might Yeah I think 1150 01:08:50,661 --> 01:08:54,051 that's probably what's gonna happen is you'll add it as a nonSteam game 1151 01:08:54,991 --> 01:08:55,961 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Eh, it is what it is 1152 01:08:56,775 --> 01:09:00,955 Gardiner: Yeah hopefully I don't know I don't think I've actually used Galaxy uh 1153 01:09:00,955 --> 01:09:05,125 that much but I it would be really cool if they also supported like controller 1154 01:09:05,135 --> 01:09:07,405 input I don't know if they do or not 1155 01:09:08,603 --> 01:09:12,103 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I think they'd have to if they want… Yeah, uh, I think they 1156 01:09:12,113 --> 01:09:14,043 should, if they don't already, that is. 1157 01:09:14,445 --> 01:09:14,785 Gardiner: Yeah 1158 01:09:15,423 --> 01:09:17,193 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: like we should tell Liam to tell them that. 1159 01:09:19,769 --> 01:09:22,069 Gardiner: Yeah hopefully they watch What's up GOG team 1160 01:09:22,383 --> 01:09:23,763 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: What's up, GOG team? 1161 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,419 Gardiner: Uh you know what I hope uh GOG doesn't rely on though is AI slop 1162 01:09:29,429 --> 01:09:35,319 for their development or vibe coding And here LinkedIn is actually starting 1163 01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:41,419 to hopefully clean up AI slop on their platform because uh it's pretty bad on 1164 01:09:41,419 --> 01:09:44,739 LinkedIn I don't know if you've been on LinkedIn in a while but it's pretty bad 1165 01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:47,679 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I've seen posts from LinkedIn and it's 1166 01:09:47,949 --> 01:09:50,179 all… Okay, okay, okay, okay. 1167 01:09:50,609 --> 01:09:53,329 LinkedIn is the platform you use to, like, connect with, like, 1168 01:09:53,329 --> 01:09:54,649 your boss or some shit, or, 1169 01:09:54,695 --> 01:09:55,195 Gardiner: Yyyeah 1170 01:09:55,219 --> 01:09:55,495 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: hired. 1171 01:09:56,119 --> 01:10:00,569 No one wants to read… LinkedIn is the worst place to, like, put your 1172 01:10:00,569 --> 01:10:02,189 social media stuff on, all right? 1173 01:10:02,329 --> 01:10:03,389 Let, let's just put it that way. 1174 01:10:03,865 --> 01:10:04,145 Gardiner: Yeah 1175 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,299 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: there to l- you, you have a LinkedIn profile to look pretty and to 1176 01:10:08,309 --> 01:10:11,369 attract some potential, uh, employers, 1177 01:10:11,685 --> 01:10:12,135 Gardiner: Mmhmm 1178 01:10:12,435 --> 01:10:14,009 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and not to, like, rant about shit. 1179 01:10:14,019 --> 01:10:16,169 That's what Twitter is for, or Facebook even 1180 01:10:16,487 --> 01:10:24,417 Gardiner: Yeah is uh the objective uh like the platonic ideal of the 1181 01:10:24,417 --> 01:10:30,717 rat race Like d do you know what like you know what a rat race is 1182 01:10:31,093 --> 01:10:31,773 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right, yeah 1183 01:10:31,787 --> 01:10:32,073 Gardiner: yeah 1184 01:10:32,257 --> 01:10:41,207 so it like uh it so uh frick ideal meaning like it's like the prototypical 1185 01:10:41,207 --> 01:10:48,377 It's like the the Like if you could imagine the the best possible version 1186 01:10:48,617 --> 01:10:52,477 and in this case uh that the best version of a r rat race would be the worst 1187 01:10:52,477 --> 01:10:54,587 version That's what I'm saying Like 1188 01:10:54,597 --> 01:10:54,847 it's 1189 01:10:54,977 --> 01:10:56,957 just bad It's so bad 1190 01:10:59,651 --> 01:10:59,779 Ugh 1191 01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:03,129 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, they're adding a, seems like AI slot button. 1192 01:11:03,129 --> 01:11:05,509 It seems like a AI slot. 1193 01:11:05,569 --> 01:11:05,889 Now, 1194 01:11:06,011 --> 01:11:06,371 Gardiner: Mmhmm 1195 01:11:06,529 --> 01:11:08,479 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: LinkedIn is not that kind of platform where you 1196 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:13,869 get like hate brigades and all that bullshit, but like… Yeah. 1197 01:11:14,759 --> 01:11:17,099 Here's my thing, here's my thing too with LinkedIn too. 1198 01:11:17,585 --> 01:11:17,965 Gardiner: Hmm 1199 01:11:18,319 --> 01:11:20,969 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: People need to just shut the fuck up and not post their 1200 01:11:20,969 --> 01:11:22,509 personal stuff on LinkedIn, all right? 1201 01:11:22,535 --> 01:11:25,275 Gardiner: Well Well, people just need to not use LinkedIn 1202 01:11:25,749 --> 01:11:29,629 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well the… Yes, that too, but like that's too 1203 01:11:29,629 --> 01:11:30,799 much to ask for at this point 1204 01:11:31,047 --> 01:11:36,477 Gardiner: Yeah Dude did you know so Microsoft owns LinkedIn So I feel 1205 01:11:36,477 --> 01:11:38,187 like this is progress for Microsoft 1206 01:11:38,707 --> 01:11:39,977 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They own LinkedIn? 1207 01:11:40,277 --> 01:11:41,197 Gardiner: you didn't know that 1208 01:11:41,277 --> 01:11:42,237 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: When did this happen? 1209 01:11:42,537 --> 01:11:45,037 Gardiner: Fucking like 13 years ago dude 1210 01:11:45,157 --> 01:11:45,197 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: What? 1211 01:11:45,897 --> 01:11:48,397 Gardiner: Dude yeah you didn't know that Microsoft owns LinkedIn 1212 01:11:48,507 --> 01:11:54,357 Microsoft paid more to acquire LinkedIn than they paid to acquire GitHub 1213 01:11:55,349 --> 01:11:56,149 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: No fucking way. 1214 01:11:56,423 --> 01:11:57,063 Gardiner: Yes 1215 01:11:57,969 --> 01:11:58,989 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That's crazy. 1216 01:11:59,163 --> 01:12:00,223 Gardiner: believe you didn't know that Dude, 1217 01:12:00,939 --> 01:12:03,369 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude I wasn't on, I wasn't on G- I wasn't 1218 01:12:03,449 --> 01:12:05,219 on LinkedIn 13 years ago. 1219 01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:06,969 I wouldn't know this, I wouldn't know this shit 1220 01:12:07,269 --> 01:12:09,837 Gardiner: Yeah okay That's fair I was Dude 1221 01:12:09,907 --> 01:12:17,097 oh man Wait let me let me just double check When did Microsoft acquire 1222 01:12:17,177 --> 01:12:26,187 LinkedIn Linked In Good Lord I can't type This was posted 2016 so 10 years ago 1223 01:12:28,657 --> 01:12:28,937 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude 1224 01:12:29,255 --> 01:12:35,535 Gardiner: They paid 262 billion to acquire LinkedIn and they paid like 13 billion to 1225 01:12:35,535 --> 01:12:39,615 acquire GitHub Isn't that fricking crazy 1226 01:12:40,717 --> 01:12:43,097 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, and turns out GitHub was more valuable. 1227 01:12:43,397 --> 01:12:44,505 Gardiner: Oh yeah way more 1228 01:12:44,607 --> 01:12:46,247 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But, here's the thing though, like GitHub is more 1229 01:12:46,287 --> 01:12:48,317 easily replaceable 'cause you can just host, self-host your 1230 01:12:48,317 --> 01:12:50,667 own like Git style repository. 1231 01:12:50,667 --> 01:12:51,537 Valve does that. 1232 01:12:51,925 --> 01:12:52,275 Gardiner: Right 1233 01:12:52,707 --> 01:12:53,167 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 1234 01:12:54,637 --> 01:12:58,567 Uh, also, also I just wanted to mention something, uh, uh, about… 1235 01:12:58,607 --> 01:13:01,177 This is going back to GOG, but like I just wanna mention this. 1236 01:13:01,197 --> 01:13:04,437 This game is on GOG, and it's part of their, uh, part of 1237 01:13:04,437 --> 01:13:06,627 their Good Old Game preserved. 1238 01:13:07,427 --> 01:13:08,147 Gardiner: Oh yeah 1239 01:13:08,237 --> 01:13:09,077 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Remember this game? 1240 01:13:09,217 --> 01:13:10,697 It's, it's called Hatred. 1241 01:13:10,997 --> 01:13:11,317 Gardiner: Yep 1242 01:13:11,887 --> 01:13:14,137 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's the one that got a bunch of controversy. 1243 01:13:14,907 --> 01:13:16,087 Gardiner: I do remember this 1244 01:13:16,687 --> 01:13:17,387 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I remember seeing the trailer. 1245 01:13:19,037 --> 01:13:19,097 Gardiner: Oh, 1246 01:13:20,577 --> 01:13:21,837 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh my God 1247 01:13:23,137 --> 01:13:28,077 Gardiner: Yeah Dude do you Okay so this game is 2026 ready I wonder if 1248 01:13:28,077 --> 01:13:35,127 these uh preserved games are also going to be like Linux ready or something 1249 01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:38,909 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I mean, I, I, I feel like that's part, that's probably the hurdle 1250 01:13:38,909 --> 01:13:39,809 that they're going through right now. 1251 01:13:39,809 --> 01:13:43,329 They don't have, they don't have like a full on Linux infrastructure 1252 01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:45,259 the way Valve does just yet 1253 01:13:46,051 --> 01:13:50,091 Gardiner: Yeah I I mean that is also like a huge benefit I think of having 1254 01:13:50,211 --> 01:13:55,441 a a GOG client And maybe maybe like making sure it's Windows 11 tested 1255 01:13:55,451 --> 01:13:57,611 also means it's Proton ready you know 1256 01:13:58,711 --> 01:13:58,861 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'm 1257 01:13:58,951 --> 01:13:58,971 Gardiner: Yeah 1258 01:13:59,621 --> 01:14:02,541 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'm sure once they, uh, figure things out, they'll add 1259 01:14:02,541 --> 01:14:04,421 a little Linux badge right there. 1260 01:14:04,661 --> 01:14:05,819 Linux verified 1261 01:14:06,119 --> 01:14:10,539 Gardiner: Yeah that would be that would be cool Ah dude 1262 01:14:11,289 --> 01:14:15,889 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Mm, don't sh- put, put this on your LinkedIn, "Developed hatred." 1263 01:14:19,249 --> 01:14:19,537 Gardiner: Uh 1264 01:14:19,549 --> 01:14:20,179 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh 1265 01:14:20,297 --> 01:14:24,327 Gardiner: know at lea you know what's really cool is like GOG has this 1266 01:14:24,337 --> 01:14:28,397 preservation program right I just think that that's fricking awesome 1267 01:14:28,407 --> 01:14:32,227 It means that like these these like artifacts I mean I don't know how like 1268 01:14:33,197 --> 01:14:37,107 culturally relevant Hatred was but like a lot of like these older games 1269 01:14:37,587 --> 01:14:40,587 are getting preserved right Meanwhile 1270 01:14:41,225 --> 01:14:41,595 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh. 1271 01:14:42,427 --> 01:14:46,635 Gardiner: are over here buying up old books scanning and then destroying 1272 01:14:46,935 --> 01:14:49,585 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I knew you were… I knew that you were gonna go for it. 1273 01:14:49,747 --> 01:14:52,317 Gardiner: You knew it You you freaking knew it dude 1274 01:14:52,485 --> 01:14:52,875 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes 1275 01:14:53,137 --> 01:14:56,467 Gardiner: So I wrote an article and actually Dash and I worked on an 1276 01:14:56,477 --> 01:15:04,107 article together Um Dash sent me uh a a a news story It was about this 1277 01:15:04,107 --> 01:15:09,177 right Like that these AI companies are buying these antique books right 1278 01:15:09,261 --> 01:15:09,821 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Mm-hmm. 1279 01:15:10,657 --> 01:15:11,477 Gardiner: the spine 1280 01:15:11,771 --> 01:15:12,171 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yep 1281 01:15:12,471 --> 01:15:19,307 Gardiner: books scanning each page and then pulping the book And it was our 1282 01:15:19,307 --> 01:15:21,907 number one most viewed article of all time 1283 01:15:22,591 --> 01:15:23,021 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: What? 1284 01:15:23,097 --> 01:15:24,837 Gardiner: front page of Reddit 1285 01:15:25,491 --> 01:15:26,081 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Hold on. 1286 01:15:26,281 --> 01:15:27,111 I gotta see this. 1287 01:15:27,111 --> 01:15:27,911 No fucking way 1288 01:15:28,211 --> 01:15:33,365 Gardiner: Yes dude Um and uh uh dude so these companies uh here let me show 1289 01:15:33,365 --> 01:15:39,125 you on my screen So companies are now destroying warehouses full of rare books 1290 01:15:39,335 --> 01:15:42,685 A provocative title but one I stand behind right Because that's what they're 1291 01:15:42,685 --> 01:15:46,925 doing They're scanning these books and then they are destroying them And like 1292 01:15:46,935 --> 01:15:50,905 there's actually video footage I got from the news article This is what they're 1293 01:15:50,905 --> 01:15:55,645 doing And like it's one thing to say they're slicing the spine off these books 1294 01:15:55,885 --> 01:15:59,635 and then pulping it you know scanning it and then pulping it but that's l 1295 01:15:59,685 --> 01:16:04,455 like it's another thing entirely to actually witness the destruction right 1296 01:16:04,955 --> 01:16:10,765 Like look at this This is vulgar to me This is like w this is as disgusting 1297 01:16:10,765 --> 01:16:12,993 to me as like a book burning you know 1298 01:16:13,293 --> 01:16:14,343 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Fahrenheit 451? 1299 01:16:15,233 --> 01:16:17,203 Gardiner: Absolutely dude Absolutely 1300 01:16:17,313 --> 01:16:20,803 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: At least, at least in Fahrenheit 451, the firefighters 1301 01:16:20,803 --> 01:16:23,503 treated the books with more decorum, 'cause they viewed it as a threat. 1302 01:16:23,833 --> 01:16:26,731 Whereas here they just treat it as just nothing 1303 01:16:27,031 --> 01:16:32,821 Gardiner: slop to you know slop fodder I mean literally Dash uh in their section um 1304 01:16:32,979 --> 01:16:33,289 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh 1305 01:16:33,321 --> 01:16:39,431 Gardiner: Fahrenheit 451 Like this is yeah this is uh It's it's just insane And and 1306 01:16:39,471 --> 01:16:45,531 honestly I think that this is a form of cultural genocide right Um book burnings 1307 01:16:45,651 --> 01:16:51,241 uh you know are are widely recognized to be a form of cultural genocide and 1308 01:16:51,301 --> 01:16:55,051 this while this isn't like literally book burning it also absolutely is 1309 01:16:55,311 --> 01:16:59,261 These are these are books that are being destroyed the Like physically destroyed 1310 01:16:59,531 --> 01:17:05,281 and the scans of these books are not being added to like a public library for 1311 01:17:05,311 --> 01:17:11,771 any The these books are being scanned withheld from the public and being sold 1312 01:17:12,011 --> 01:17:17,081 to AI uh training houses in order to like for these companies that are doing 1313 01:17:17,081 --> 01:17:23,121 this destruction to make a profit This is this is literally cultural genocide 1314 01:17:25,209 --> 01:17:26,599 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Here's the thing too, though. 1315 01:17:26,669 --> 01:17:30,429 Here's the thing too, is that there are ways to scan books 1316 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:31,519 without being destructive. 1317 01:17:31,549 --> 01:17:34,935 We've b- th- they've been doing this for, like, decades at this point. 1318 01:17:35,235 --> 01:17:35,505 Gardiner: Yep 1319 01:17:35,579 --> 01:17:38,149 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They s- y- there are… I d- I don't have any videos of, 1320 01:17:38,189 --> 01:17:43,439 uh, the book scan- I've seen the book scanning tech, and it's meticulous. 1321 01:17:43,469 --> 01:17:46,639 It's safe, and it preserves it, because some of these books are, like, so 1322 01:17:46,639 --> 01:17:49,119 fragile that they'll probably, like, crumble to dust when you touch them 1323 01:17:49,735 --> 01:17:56,225 Gardiner: Yeah Yeah It's uh it's crazy There are non I I said in my article 1324 01:17:56,225 --> 01:17:59,795 there are noninvasive ways to scan books and there's no legitimate purpose for 1325 01:17:59,795 --> 01:18:03,875 destroying these ones but the destruction is a bonus These companies get to make 1326 01:18:03,875 --> 01:18:07,385 a copy of these public domain books and then pulp the remains They're rare so 1327 01:18:07,385 --> 01:18:10,775 that means they're hard to find and after their destruction the company has one of 1328 01:18:10,775 --> 01:18:14,565 the few digital copies and the physical ones become that much more harder to 1329 01:18:14,565 --> 01:18:18,785 find Then they can turn around and sell their data set to other AI companies 1330 01:18:18,955 --> 01:18:21,125 The destruction is the point right 1331 01:18:21,755 --> 01:18:26,335 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That's… Damn, that's… Damn, that's insidious. 1332 01:18:26,575 --> 01:18:29,065 I didn't think, I didn't even think about that aspect too 1333 01:18:29,729 --> 01:18:33,959 Gardiner: And so also one of the things that that I I I like kinda I saw that 1334 01:18:33,969 --> 01:18:40,129 the uh article was shared on Reddit and I saw a few comments uh in the antiAI uh 1335 01:18:41,049 --> 01:18:44,849 where people were saying that this what I said here was kind of thoughtprovoking 1336 01:18:44,859 --> 01:18:50,199 and so I wanted to read this too AI is not destroying rare books We are Saying AI 1337 01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:56,069 is destroying books uh is a bad idea for many reasons First it bla it frames LLMs 1338 01:18:56,379 --> 01:19:01,409 as having agency or like it's capable of making decision Let's be clear they are 1339 01:19:01,409 --> 01:19:07,149 not Second a blaming AI itself distracts us from the culprit of these crimes 1340 01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:11,859 the AI companies There should be real tangible monetary consequences for this 1341 01:19:11,899 --> 01:19:17,049 crime against culture and mankind Publish uh punishment for anyone who owns and 1342 01:19:17,049 --> 01:19:22,609 operates these companies Lastly and most importantly if you use the AI chatbots 1343 01:19:22,669 --> 01:19:27,229 you're complicit right We can stop this through regulation through protest and 1344 01:19:27,229 --> 01:19:31,649 through divesting from AI right So tha that's And someone said that that was 1345 01:19:31,649 --> 01:19:37,509 really thoughtprovoking because um a lot of the time we default to blaming the AI 1346 01:19:37,509 --> 01:19:43,979 as if like oh AI is inevitable and this is just how AI is has to do things But 1347 01:19:43,979 --> 01:19:48,459 these are decisions that are being made by people not by AI These are companies 1348 01:19:48,619 --> 01:19:53,349 that are looking to profit from this kind of stuff from this destruction and we 1349 01:19:53,349 --> 01:20:00,219 cannot sit by and complacently blame the AI models They're not at fault The people 1350 01:20:00,229 --> 01:20:03,959 behind these companies who are making these decisions must be held accountable 1351 01:20:07,981 --> 01:20:10,841 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Damn, I, I, I don't know what more to say. 1352 01:20:10,961 --> 01:20:13,511 Th- this is a terrible, terrible project and 1353 01:20:14,007 --> 01:20:14,307 Gardiner: Yeah 1354 01:20:16,707 --> 01:20:17,027 Yeah 1355 01:20:17,285 --> 01:20:20,015 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Is there any way, is there any way for these, like, 1356 01:20:21,045 --> 01:20:27,805 book-burning firms to be seized and also maybe release the, uh, public, 1357 01:20:28,175 --> 01:20:30,175 release the, uh, digitized copies? 1358 01:20:30,175 --> 01:20:31,385 'Cause the physical copies are gone. 1359 01:20:31,687 --> 01:20:32,027 Gardiner: Yeah 1360 01:20:32,327 --> 01:20:35,565 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But if we can digitize the copies that still exist, 1361 01:20:36,125 --> 01:20:37,275 we may be able to preserve them 1362 01:20:37,979 --> 01:20:41,279 Gardiner: Yeah I mean so my understanding is that at least one of the companies 1363 01:20:41,279 --> 01:20:45,059 that's doing this is actually Canadian So there's a good chance that like a 1364 01:20:45,059 --> 01:20:48,729 government that actually functions like the Canadian government could put a stop 1365 01:20:48,729 --> 01:20:54,539 to this And I think that there was some legislation that just went through uh 1366 01:20:54,559 --> 01:20:58,379 or that was proposed that would prevent this from continuing at least on Canadian 1367 01:20:58,379 --> 01:21:03,099 soil Um so that's a good thing at least There's a little bit of hope We need we 1368 01:21:03,099 --> 01:21:09,449 need to like we need to have hope We need to be outraged We need to pitchfork you 1369 01:21:09,449 --> 01:21:15,049 know pitchfork angry mob kind of shit um because this is It's just unacceptable It 1370 01:21:15,049 --> 01:21:23,339 it's obscene It it's profoundly disgusting Ugh dude Also you know what you know what 1371 01:21:23,339 --> 01:21:28,909 else is obscene This fricking satanic little robot What the hell is this dude 1372 01:21:29,421 --> 01:21:33,081 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So it's a little robot centaur designed to save people 1373 01:21:33,091 --> 01:21:35,021 from, like, disaster situations. 1374 01:21:35,303 --> 01:21:36,153 Gardiner: Yeah 1375 01:21:36,821 --> 01:21:40,171 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't think we've had a real disaster situation that would warrant 1376 01:21:40,761 --> 01:21:43,491 the use of this just yet in recent memory, 1377 01:21:43,923 --> 01:21:44,333 Gardiner: Hmm 1378 01:21:44,633 --> 01:21:47,151 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but, like, damn, look at, look at, look at it 1379 01:21:47,161 --> 01:21:48,501 holding a chainsaw like that, man. 1380 01:21:48,501 --> 01:21:49,821 Is it not, is that not crazy? 1381 01:21:50,143 --> 01:21:51,483 Gardiner: why does it need horns 1382 01:21:53,549 --> 01:21:57,549 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Hmm. 1383 01:21:57,881 --> 01:22:02,311 Gardiner: why does it n it the it needs a chains operating a chainsaw That's 1384 01:22:02,321 --> 01:22:08,401 wild It looks like it has a special hand to manipulate the chainsaw Uh 1385 01:22:08,631 --> 01:22:08,811 but 1386 01:22:08,811 --> 01:22:10,801 why does it need a goat head with horns 1387 01:22:11,243 --> 01:22:13,123 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All of them to make it easier to slice 1388 01:22:13,123 --> 01:22:14,813 you open with its chainsaw, 1389 01:22:15,001 --> 01:22:15,701 Gardiner: Yeah 1390 01:22:16,113 --> 01:22:16,233 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's 1391 01:22:16,391 --> 01:22:17,421 Gardiner: Oh my gosh 1392 01:22:17,721 --> 01:22:21,343 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but like we haven't, they haven't tested this out yet 1393 01:22:21,343 --> 01:22:24,613 because they haven't had like a major disaster, but like it's an, 1394 01:22:24,683 --> 01:22:26,253 it's a startup from California. 1395 01:22:26,643 --> 01:22:29,743 It's a two meter tall robotic centaur. 1396 01:22:30,123 --> 01:22:35,563 I can understand having four legs, uh, for a robot like this, and heck it's even 1397 01:22:35,563 --> 01:22:38,493 useful as like a horse too, in case you need to rescue someone that can't walk 1398 01:22:38,825 --> 01:22:39,265 Gardiner: Mmhmm 1399 01:22:40,973 --> 01:22:46,093 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But like, yeah, the horns are like, why though? 1400 01:22:46,855 --> 01:22:47,195 Gardiner: Yeah 1401 01:22:47,243 --> 01:22:48,833 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Maybe that's where his wi- maybe that's where 1402 01:22:48,833 --> 01:22:50,573 his Wi-Fi antennas are attached. 1403 01:22:50,665 --> 01:22:56,155 Gardiner: Maybe Yeah it's really creepy looking I this is like unsettling 1404 01:22:57,131 --> 01:22:59,141 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, it's a remote operator too, by the way. 1405 01:22:59,151 --> 01:23:01,395 It's not like AI yet. 1406 01:23:01,695 --> 01:23:02,315 Gardiner: Well that's good 1407 01:23:02,751 --> 01:23:06,171 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, so no chance of it going rogue and killing 1408 01:23:06,171 --> 01:23:08,211 everyone, chainsaw massac- dude. 1409 01:23:08,781 --> 01:23:09,271 Look at that though. 1410 01:23:09,301 --> 01:23:12,691 I mean, that, I mean, if it works, it's pretty good. 1411 01:23:12,781 --> 01:23:13,131 You know, 1412 01:23:13,215 --> 01:23:13,325 Gardiner: Mm 1413 01:23:13,625 --> 01:23:15,591 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: go, you know, go ahead be damned, right? 1414 01:23:15,591 --> 01:23:16,001 But like 1415 01:23:19,305 --> 01:23:22,895 Gardiner: Why does it need a goat head I just don't understand that Like 1416 01:23:24,687 --> 01:23:24,747 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know. 1417 01:23:27,487 --> 01:23:30,087 If maybe they wanna make it look more like a real goat in the 1418 01:23:30,087 --> 01:23:34,917 future and not like a really creepy polygonal goat like it is now. 1419 01:23:35,217 --> 01:23:35,647 Gardiner: Hmm 1420 01:23:36,327 --> 01:23:37,107 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know, man 1421 01:23:37,127 --> 01:23:39,847 Gardiner: if you're an audio listener you're really missing out This thing 1422 01:23:39,847 --> 01:23:43,227 is um just freaky freaky looking 1423 01:23:44,999 --> 01:23:45,019 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Ugh. 1424 01:23:45,769 --> 01:23:48,737 It's got live cameras too where its eyes would be 1425 01:23:49,037 --> 01:23:49,577 Gardiner: Mmhmm 1426 01:23:51,767 --> 01:23:52,347 Wild 1427 01:23:52,723 --> 01:23:53,503 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Hmm. 1428 01:23:53,503 --> 01:23:55,673 I, I, I don't know. 1429 01:23:56,073 --> 01:23:56,253 It 1430 01:23:56,317 --> 01:23:56,667 Gardiner: like It… 1431 01:23:58,593 --> 01:24:02,675 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: One day, Garden, it'll save your life whether you like it or not 1432 01:24:02,975 --> 01:24:07,075 Gardiner: Yeah On that day I still won't like it 1433 01:24:10,155 --> 01:24:15,675 Oh man is crazy dude I I I don't have a lot to say about it um but yeah 1434 01:24:16,431 --> 01:24:18,871 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I just thought it would be funny to… Wait, what, what 1435 01:24:18,871 --> 01:24:21,871 are all those weapons that are… What's, what's that section for? 1436 01:24:22,171 --> 01:24:26,353 Gardiner: saying that there's pressurized tanks that like keep the pneumatic 1437 01:24:26,513 --> 01:24:29,963 like uh limbs Uh so like uh that 1438 01:24:29,963 --> 01:24:31,033 power so 1439 01:24:31,441 --> 01:24:31,911 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Wait. 1440 01:24:32,211 --> 01:24:33,823 Gardiner: punctured then it locks it in place 1441 01:24:34,221 --> 01:24:37,221 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, so you could… So in case one invades 1442 01:24:37,221 --> 01:24:38,261 your house, you could like 1443 01:24:40,849 --> 01:24:41,669 Gardiner: Oh man 1444 01:24:42,377 --> 01:24:43,369 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Mm, yes. 1445 01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:44,279 Gardiner: wild 1446 01:24:44,579 --> 01:24:46,607 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But like if a gun can puncture that, how would it 1447 01:24:46,607 --> 01:24:47,997 survive like a falling building? 1448 01:24:49,249 --> 01:24:50,129 Gardiner: Yeah I don't know 1449 01:24:51,927 --> 01:24:52,447 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know. 1450 01:24:52,827 --> 01:24:53,147 I don't know. 1451 01:24:53,157 --> 01:24:56,187 Well, I j- figured I'd add it to this because it was kinda funny 1452 01:24:56,647 --> 01:25:00,927 Gardiner: Yeah No uh a good addition that's gonna be in 1453 01:25:00,927 --> 01:25:02,317 the in the thumbnail for sure 1454 01:25:04,999 --> 01:25:05,949 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, Lord 1455 01:25:06,177 --> 01:25:10,727 Gardiner: Uh dude that's uh I think that's a I think that's 1456 01:25:10,737 --> 01:25:11,837 all the stories we have right 1457 01:25:12,181 --> 01:25:12,961 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I think so, yeah. 1458 01:25:12,961 --> 01:25:15,081 And they have- and there aren't any surprise announcements like 1459 01:25:15,081 --> 01:25:21,861 the Steam Frame being 1,050, 1,500. 1460 01:25:21,861 --> 01:25:24,435 Ugh, knowing our luck, that's exactly what's gonna happen. 1461 01:25:24,735 --> 01:25:25,115 Gardiner: Yeah 1462 01:25:25,271 --> 01:25:26,591 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And we'll talk about it next week too 1463 01:25:27,065 --> 01:25:31,605 Gardiner: Absolutely Uh thank you everyone for tuning into the show Uh if you haven't 1464 01:25:31,605 --> 01:25:35,335 seen it already we have a full 30minute bonus episode I think it might have been 1465 01:25:35,395 --> 01:25:41,165 35 minutes over on Patreon It's exclusive for our patrons Thank you so much to them 1466 01:25:41,185 --> 01:25:45,885 by the way for uh supporting this show for the work we do Uh it's it's really 1467 01:25:45,935 --> 01:25:51,325 rewarding Um thank you HiTech for being here It's it's always nice to to chat 1468 01:25:51,325 --> 01:25:57,055 with you I appreciate it And uh with that said think that's it That's the show 1469 01:25:57,983 --> 01:25:59,573 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All right, you guys take care now. 1470 01:25:59,775 --> 01:26:00,335 Gardiner: Yes 1471 01:26:01,843 --> 01:26:02,403 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: See ya.