1 00:00:01,696 --> 00:00:04,776 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Welcome to Off the Console, your favorite podcast 2 00:00:04,776 --> 00:00:08,336 where we talk about gaming, tech news, and much, much more. 3 00:00:09,056 --> 00:00:10,546 here for the long haul. 4 00:00:10,636 --> 00:00:12,806 This is, in fact, episode 90 5 00:00:14,404 --> 00:00:15,024 Gardiner: Hell yeah. 6 00:00:15,164 --> 00:00:15,714 That's awesome 7 00:00:16,258 --> 00:00:19,758 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, and I'm glad you've been with us for 90 episodes 8 00:00:19,758 --> 00:00:23,548 because, man, it's been one heck of a time getting this podcast started. 9 00:00:24,788 --> 00:00:28,518 and then going, having special guests all over the place, and then 10 00:00:28,688 --> 00:00:32,678 most importantly just having you guys stick around with us, ensuring 11 00:00:32,678 --> 00:00:34,658 that you guys do like our content. 12 00:00:34,668 --> 00:00:36,628 So we thank you for that. 13 00:00:37,338 --> 00:00:42,798 I would like to hit 1,000 subscribers by episode 100, so, um, if you 14 00:00:42,798 --> 00:00:46,438 do like the c- if you do like the podcast, be sure to hit up YouTube. 15 00:00:46,858 --> 00:00:48,718 Look up Off The Console and subscribe to us. 16 00:00:48,758 --> 00:00:50,378 That really helps us out in the YouTube algorithm 17 00:00:51,246 --> 00:00:51,466 James: Yeah. 18 00:00:51,686 --> 00:00:54,386 Well, check out the new website too, offtheconsole.com. 19 00:00:54,566 --> 00:00:57,036 I'm in the middle of tweaking it more and more, but there'll 20 00:00:57,036 --> 00:00:58,326 be more information there. 21 00:00:58,326 --> 00:01:02,326 It's easy way to find out how to support us and everything, and 22 00:01:03,138 --> 00:01:03,238 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You 23 00:01:03,406 --> 00:01:03,816 James: yeah. 24 00:01:05,496 --> 00:01:06,566 OffTheConsole.com 25 00:01:06,956 --> 00:01:07,466 Gardiner: Offtheconsole.com 26 00:01:09,548 --> 00:01:11,958 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: We need to put, like, a fancy graphic on the screen for that 27 00:01:12,438 --> 00:01:13,768 Gardiner: Oh, I will make one. 28 00:01:16,974 --> 00:01:17,994 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: OffTheConsole.com. 29 00:01:18,488 --> 00:01:19,358 Gardiner: Hell yeah. 30 00:01:19,478 --> 00:01:19,868 Look at that 31 00:01:20,718 --> 00:01:20,728 James: I 32 00:01:20,758 --> 00:01:21,028 mean, 33 00:01:21,314 --> 00:01:22,214 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: delicious. 34 00:01:22,998 --> 00:01:23,368 James: yeah, 35 00:01:23,574 --> 00:01:26,254 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So you, you can't see this, uh, you can't see this if 36 00:01:26,254 --> 00:01:29,364 you're watching the audio feed, but if you check us out on YouTube, I'm 37 00:01:29,364 --> 00:01:30,884 showing off the website right now. 38 00:01:31,184 --> 00:01:33,654 It's got the audio feed right there. 39 00:01:33,854 --> 00:01:34,704 It's amazing. 40 00:01:36,084 --> 00:01:37,494 Oh my goodness. 41 00:01:37,884 --> 00:01:40,034 At some point though, James, I think you're gonna have to make a section 42 00:01:40,034 --> 00:01:42,844 for the, uh, shorts that we've done. 43 00:01:43,544 --> 00:01:43,724 Oh 44 00:01:43,774 --> 00:01:44,604 James: Actually not a bad idea 45 00:01:45,334 --> 00:01:46,614 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh my God, episode one? 46 00:01:47,914 --> 00:01:49,114 No freaking way 47 00:01:51,098 --> 00:01:52,968 Gardiner: Oh man, good times. 48 00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:53,740 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Man, 49 00:01:53,848 --> 00:01:55,428 Gardiner: was back before the Rampocalypse 50 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,970 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, that was back when Game Freak were showing off their, uh, 51 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:01,300 namesake, their Game Freak, so to speak 52 00:02:02,990 --> 00:02:03,640 James: That's true 53 00:02:03,658 --> 00:02:05,178 Gardiner: letting their Game Freak fly. 54 00:02:06,186 --> 00:02:08,866 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, this is awesome though, James. 55 00:02:08,906 --> 00:02:09,066 This 56 00:02:09,066 --> 00:02:10,996 is, this is… You've outdone yourself. 57 00:02:11,046 --> 00:02:15,096 You guys, you, both of you have outdone yourselves in terms of web design. 58 00:02:16,302 --> 00:02:16,612 James: Yeah. 59 00:02:16,751 --> 00:02:19,712 And even has the, I have the up- I know. 60 00:02:20,662 --> 00:02:25,781 But I have the numbers updating except for the podcast ones too in the press kit. 61 00:02:25,852 --> 00:02:29,642 So you can see how many subscribers there are, I think live now, so 62 00:02:30,658 --> 00:02:31,088 Gardiner: Hell yeah 63 00:02:31,826 --> 00:02:36,206 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So, with that said, uh, we're gonna talk about episode 90. 64 00:02:36,266 --> 00:02:39,456 Episode 90, it, is it, is it time for the Steam Frame? 65 00:02:41,096 --> 00:02:42,636 It might be time for the Steam Frame. 66 00:02:43,226 --> 00:02:43,886 And also a bunch of 67 00:02:43,916 --> 00:02:43,996 James: What? 68 00:02:44,356 --> 00:02:45,146 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: with Steam, 69 00:02:45,946 --> 00:02:46,366 James: Oh, okay. 70 00:02:46,836 --> 00:02:52,566 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Xbox backwards compatibility on PC, and, um, a little 71 00:02:52,566 --> 00:02:54,656 surprise resurrection from dbrand. 72 00:02:55,586 --> 00:02:57,426 What might have been s- resurrected, though? 73 00:02:57,516 --> 00:02:59,586 Uh, you'll have to find, you'll have to watch the episode to find out 74 00:03:01,540 --> 00:03:01,950 Gardiner: Hmm 75 00:03:02,188 --> 00:03:04,348 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: so, um, with you, Gardner. 76 00:03:04,348 --> 00:03:05,598 What have you been doing this week? 77 00:03:06,402 --> 00:03:07,302 Gardiner: Oh my dude. 78 00:03:07,802 --> 00:03:08,702 Oh my dude. 79 00:03:08,762 --> 00:03:16,322 I have been coordinating, uh, and, uh, I am actually building a Steam Machine, a 80 00:03:16,322 --> 00:03:25,062 self-built Steam Machine, and I have a RTX or an RX 9070 XT here, I'm very excited. 81 00:03:25,072 --> 00:03:25,862 The box is empty. 82 00:03:25,862 --> 00:03:26,922 It's sitting here on my desk 83 00:03:27,724 --> 00:03:29,064 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: How much did you pay for that? 84 00:03:29,374 --> 00:03:30,004 MSRP? 85 00:03:30,934 --> 00:03:32,764 Oh, 800 bucks 86 00:03:33,716 --> 00:03:34,646 Gardiner: No, no, no, it wasn't 800. 87 00:03:34,886 --> 00:03:39,676 No, that … I paid 'cause I bought a case too, and so I don't know exactly 88 00:03:39,676 --> 00:03:41,576 what I paid for it, but the total was 800. 89 00:03:42,716 --> 00:03:44,996 Uh, let me, let me check really fast 90 00:03:45,096 --> 00:03:45,126 James: to 600 91 00:03:45,186 --> 00:03:47,326 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: is it a mini, is it a Mini ITX case? 92 00:03:48,646 --> 00:03:53,606 Gardiner: Uh, I thought it was, apparently mATX is not mini 93 00:03:54,914 --> 00:03:56,054 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, it's not mini. 94 00:03:56,064 --> 00:03:59,944 It's, it's smaller than your average desktop though, 95 00:04:00,332 --> 00:04:00,972 Gardiner: Yes 96 00:04:00,994 --> 00:04:01,384 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's, 97 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:06,230 Gardiner: Oh, dude, this thing is fucking… The, the tower is enormous. 98 00:04:06,250 --> 00:04:09,700 Like, it's huge, and I'm like, "Why the hell is it so big?" I 99 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:10,740 thought it was gonna be small. 100 00:04:11,710 --> 00:04:12,100 Um, 101 00:04:14,110 --> 00:04:14,550 yeah. 102 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,910 This, I paid… What did I pay for this? 103 00:04:16,930 --> 00:04:22,790 $700 for the GPU, which is crazy, but yeah, what are you gonna 104 00:04:22,916 --> 00:04:24,666 James: Gosh, it is crazy. 105 00:04:24,666 --> 00:04:26,996 But it's gonna be a lot more powerful than the Steam Machine, and the Steam 106 00:04:27,006 --> 00:04:29,546 Machine is looking pretty good right now 107 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:30,640 Gardiner: Oh, yeah. 108 00:04:30,690 --> 00:04:31,100 Yeah. 109 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:32,920 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: pretty good right now, I must 110 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:33,350 Gardiner: Dude. 111 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,900 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The value proposition isn't there right now, 112 00:04:36,250 --> 00:04:36,620 Gardiner: Yeah 113 00:04:36,990 --> 00:04:37,510 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but 114 00:04:37,623 --> 00:04:39,404 James: I don't know if I agree with that actually. 115 00:04:39,433 --> 00:04:41,203 Like, we 116 00:04:41,203 --> 00:04:42,024 can, we can talk ab- 117 00:04:42,204 --> 00:04:44,624 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you were the one railing hardest against it, 118 00:04:45,164 --> 00:04:46,384 James: I know I was. 119 00:04:46,624 --> 00:04:49,134 But getting it in my hands, how small it is. 120 00:04:49,144 --> 00:04:52,244 'Cause I was expecting it'll be a little bigger, but it is literally 121 00:04:52,464 --> 00:04:53,974 about the size of a GameCube. 122 00:04:54,534 --> 00:04:57,694 Uh, you can't really… Like, so all these people saying they're making 123 00:04:57,704 --> 00:05:00,933 Steam Machine killers and all that, but they don't ever get the f- this, 124 00:05:00,954 --> 00:05:02,793 the form factor at the same size. 125 00:05:03,083 --> 00:05:07,164 I don't know if there is a Steam Machine killer that can hit the same size. 126 00:05:07,614 --> 00:05:12,184 So, uh, but that doesn't matter for everyone, and probably even most. 127 00:05:12,184 --> 00:05:14,453 But I really do love this little cube. 128 00:05:14,573 --> 00:05:18,213 Um, it's making me… Oh man, I really like the GameCube. 129 00:05:18,433 --> 00:05:19,614 I'm really liking this thing 130 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:21,250 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 131 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,260 Like, that's the one thing too. 132 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:26,950 I, I like to see… I see people post their stupid ATX builds. 133 00:05:27,230 --> 00:05:29,720 No offense, Gardner, I know, but like, 134 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:31,130 Gardiner: They're taken. 135 00:05:31,940 --> 00:05:32,250 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but 136 00:05:32,330 --> 00:05:32,950 Gardiner: here's the thing. 137 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,270 The, so sorry, I don't mean to interrupt, but the, what I'm building, I'm trying to 138 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:43,920 build, the goal of this build is to have it have as many of the, of like the f- to 139 00:05:43,930 --> 00:05:45,810 be a com- feature complete Steam Machine 140 00:05:46,386 --> 00:05:46,556 James: Yeah 141 00:05:46,630 --> 00:05:50,290 Gardiner: and show that process, because I think I can do all of the 142 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:55,280 things that I want that, from the Steam Machine, uh, aside from having like 143 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:57,320 the built-in Steam Frame transmitter. 144 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:59,780 Um, but like everything else… 145 00:05:59,942 --> 00:06:00,442 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: transmitter? 146 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:03,170 Gardiner: Well, there is a Steam Controller transmitter, but I'm 147 00:06:03,170 --> 00:06:07,140 pretty sure the Steam Fra- there's also a Steam Frame radio in 148 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:09,320 Steam Deck or the Steam Machine. 149 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:09,742 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They've 150 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:10,830 Gardiner: am I wrong about that? 151 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,110 I feel like I read about that somewhere. 152 00:06:13,486 --> 00:06:17,276 James: There's definitely a controller, but there could be a Steam Frame also. 153 00:06:17,346 --> 00:06:17,976 It'll be interesting. 154 00:06:17,976 --> 00:06:18,176 We'll s- 155 00:06:18,176 --> 00:06:19,296 we'll, we'll know though 156 00:06:19,332 --> 00:06:20,552 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: if… Yeah, 157 00:06:21,410 --> 00:06:23,720 Gardiner: so sorry. 158 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,480 The, uh… Go ahead 159 00:06:27,190 --> 00:06:27,210 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 160 00:06:27,220 --> 00:06:28,990 Uh, that's crazy if true, man. 161 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:29,460 But, 162 00:06:29,466 --> 00:06:29,776 Gardiner: Yeah. 163 00:06:30,876 --> 00:06:31,256 Yeah. 164 00:06:31,296 --> 00:06:35,246 So I mean, the h- my hope is to have, like, a l- the LED light 165 00:06:35,246 --> 00:06:37,816 bar to have HDCP or C- HDMI 166 00:06:40,816 --> 00:06:41,316 CEC. 167 00:06:41,386 --> 00:06:41,516 HDCP? 168 00:06:41,546 --> 00:06:42,176 What is HDCP? 169 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:44,590 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: HDMI-C, yeah, 170 00:06:44,766 --> 00:06:46,016 Gardiner: HDMI CEC. 171 00:06:46,476 --> 00:06:50,106 I'm gonna have CEC, I'm gonna have a light bar on the front and, uh, 172 00:06:50,116 --> 00:06:51,836 Steam Controller support obviously. 173 00:06:52,286 --> 00:06:54,926 Um, and that's, that's the, that's the goal. 174 00:06:55,050 --> 00:06:55,840 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: so Gardner 175 00:06:56,266 --> 00:06:56,546 Gardiner: Yeah 176 00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:01,838 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You could use an internal A- you could use an internal USB header to 177 00:07:01,848 --> 00:07:07,538 house a internal, uh, Steam Frame receiver 178 00:07:09,026 --> 00:07:09,936 Gardiner: Oh yeah, yeah. 179 00:07:10,826 --> 00:07:12,746 Um, that's definitely on the table. 180 00:07:12,886 --> 00:07:19,376 Uh, I have a motherboard that I already have, um, and it, it only 181 00:07:19,376 --> 00:07:25,486 has an internal USB 3.0 header, so I'm a little disappointed by that. 182 00:07:25,776 --> 00:07:29,026 And it only has one PCI slot, so I'm a little disappointed by that. 183 00:07:29,506 --> 00:07:36,646 But it's … I might end up buying a new motherboard for it just to see. 184 00:07:36,726 --> 00:07:36,986 But 185 00:07:37,826 --> 00:07:38,686 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes. 186 00:07:39,358 --> 00:07:43,378 James: That's-- I don't-- Yeah, no, it's, it's a great, like I, I'm not going 187 00:07:43,378 --> 00:07:48,727 to, uh, crap an- anymore on people that are like wanting to build their Steam 188 00:07:48,738 --> 00:07:51,807 Machine system, especially since you can get a better value proposition from it. 189 00:07:51,898 --> 00:07:52,518 Um, 190 00:07:52,726 --> 00:07:56,726 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 191 00:07:56,728 --> 00:07:57,878 James: I've been setting that all up. 192 00:07:57,888 --> 00:08:01,528 There's a lot of parts that I've been kinda getting ready that are supposed 193 00:08:01,528 --> 00:08:02,807 to be compatible with each other. 194 00:08:03,338 --> 00:08:07,988 Um, my next thing is-- I guess I'm talking about what I'm doing, so. 195 00:08:08,547 --> 00:08:11,167 Gar-- uh, HiTech, am I allowed to start talking about what I'm doing? 196 00:08:11,970 --> 00:08:12,460 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes. 197 00:08:13,117 --> 00:08:13,587 James: Okay. 198 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: are 199 00:08:14,547 --> 00:08:15,497 James: Do I have permission? 200 00:08:16,658 --> 00:08:20,487 So yeah, I've been working on that pretty hard to where I'm, I'm, I'm mis-- I'm, 201 00:08:20,877 --> 00:08:25,467 uh, it's, it's ever-evolving, but I'm right now getting a wish list system 202 00:08:25,467 --> 00:08:27,597 in there, some compatibility stuff. 203 00:08:27,888 --> 00:08:32,877 I have in the background running-- Well, it's not running right now, but it was 204 00:08:32,888 --> 00:08:36,018 for a while, um, uh, automation testing. 205 00:08:36,018 --> 00:08:42,187 So I'm doing a whole, uh, test suite runner so that I can run 206 00:08:42,198 --> 00:08:44,037 multiple benchmarks automatically. 207 00:08:44,238 --> 00:08:47,478 So I'll open source it at one point, and I'll have it on the 208 00:08:47,518 --> 00:08:49,917 couchrig.com so people can run it. 209 00:08:49,918 --> 00:08:53,487 So if they wanna like, let's say Gardner, you build your system and you 210 00:08:53,488 --> 00:08:57,467 want to, uh, upload it and just show it off, and this is what I'm doing. 211 00:08:57,467 --> 00:09:00,277 This is but-- And this is also the like scores I'm getting. 212 00:09:00,287 --> 00:09:00,947 You can do that. 213 00:09:00,957 --> 00:09:01,548 That's what I'm doing. 214 00:09:01,647 --> 00:09:04,207 I wanna have a lot of fun with this 'cause I r- I'm really 215 00:09:04,507 --> 00:09:07,198 digging this type of, um, route. 216 00:09:07,777 --> 00:09:12,867 It, it's something that's fun that we can do while the rest of the gaming 217 00:09:13,077 --> 00:09:15,417 PC world burns down with RAM prices. 218 00:09:15,417 --> 00:09:15,527 Let's 219 00:09:16,198 --> 00:09:16,618 Gardiner: Yeah. 220 00:09:16,698 --> 00:09:17,877 James: optimize, I guess. 221 00:09:18,177 --> 00:09:18,817 So, 222 00:09:20,827 --> 00:09:21,187 yeah. 223 00:09:21,402 --> 00:09:21,732 Gardiner: Yeah. 224 00:09:21,792 --> 00:09:22,862 No, it's exciting, dude. 225 00:09:22,862 --> 00:09:26,172 I, I've kind of messed around with your site, and I think that 226 00:09:26,172 --> 00:09:27,342 it's got a ton of potential. 227 00:09:27,442 --> 00:09:27,872 So, 228 00:09:28,750 --> 00:09:30,460 James: See how he says it's not amazing yet? 229 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:32,000 It's got ton of potential. 230 00:09:32,820 --> 00:09:33,870 But it, it's 231 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,650 it's, it's true. 232 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:35,310 It, it's true. 233 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:36,810 It's, it's very early on. 234 00:09:36,849 --> 00:09:38,349 Um, I've done a lot of updates. 235 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:43,359 I'm trying to get the data in there now, and more links so that, um, 236 00:09:43,434 --> 00:09:43,614 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, 237 00:09:43,719 --> 00:09:45,159 James: mo- more easily 238 00:09:45,184 --> 00:09:47,294 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: s- the audience the URL 239 00:09:48,312 --> 00:09:49,552 James: Outrig.com 240 00:09:50,574 --> 00:09:51,734 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: couchrig.com. 241 00:09:51,734 --> 00:09:52,324 Let me put that in 242 00:09:55,436 --> 00:09:56,586 Well, I can't type today 243 00:09:57,326 --> 00:09:57,846 James: You're good. 244 00:09:57,886 --> 00:09:58,456 You're good. 245 00:09:58,646 --> 00:09:59,056 So 246 00:09:59,458 --> 00:10:02,928 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So this is James' website, catchrig.com. 247 00:10:03,648 --> 00:10:05,908 for, um, catch rigs 248 00:10:06,830 --> 00:10:09,500 James: Yeah, it's essentially, it's gonna be a home for stuff that I do 249 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:10,680 with Steam Deck and Steam Machine. 250 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:15,880 Anything that like… Honestly, it'd probably be more than that, but, um, yeah. 251 00:10:15,950 --> 00:10:18,350 I'm in the middle of seeding it right now, like parts and all that. 252 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:23,920 Some of the stuff might still be like placeholder, but it's, uh, slowly getting 253 00:10:23,980 --> 00:10:27,369 there to where I'll have, um, yeah. 254 00:10:28,869 --> 00:10:31,889 I do have the prices at… What's that? 255 00:10:31,892 --> 00:10:33,432 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You know, Amazon has affiliate links. 256 00:10:33,432 --> 00:10:34,112 You can set, you 257 00:10:34,358 --> 00:10:35,188 James: That's what those are. 258 00:10:35,218 --> 00:10:35,238 S- 259 00:10:35,488 --> 00:10:37,738 you'll, you'll s- th- there is a disclaimer in this that there 260 00:10:37,738 --> 00:10:40,367 is affiliate links, so, um. 261 00:10:40,798 --> 00:10:41,378 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I see him now. 262 00:10:41,378 --> 00:10:41,718 Yeah 263 00:10:41,988 --> 00:10:44,318 James: Right now it's, it's doing it in a way that's doing it through 264 00:10:44,318 --> 00:10:46,367 search, but I need to get direct ones. 265 00:10:46,367 --> 00:10:49,198 That's one of the things, but I don't care about that quite yet. 266 00:10:49,258 --> 00:10:53,318 I want it to be more like, uh, yeah. 267 00:10:53,427 --> 00:10:55,717 So it, it's gonna grow over time. 268 00:10:55,898 --> 00:10:59,808 I'm going to put in more… And the, the costs on this are, like, old school. 269 00:11:00,037 --> 00:11:03,098 Uh, I'm g- like, in the, in the sense of, like, they came from earlier this year. 270 00:11:03,127 --> 00:11:07,307 I need to put in costs that are, like, more, uh, today. 271 00:11:07,318 --> 00:11:09,667 It's really hard because, like, Amazon doesn't allow you to 272 00:11:09,667 --> 00:11:11,857 y- to put prices for Amazon. 273 00:11:11,858 --> 00:11:14,588 But I can put prices that are, like, the general price, if you're 274 00:11:14,588 --> 00:11:15,858 an affiliate that is on Amazon. 275 00:11:16,007 --> 00:11:16,477 So, 276 00:11:16,944 --> 00:11:17,134 Gardiner: Yeah 277 00:11:17,247 --> 00:11:20,057 James: um, I'm gonna be adding pictures to all the stuff. 278 00:11:20,107 --> 00:11:23,117 I'm gonna make it so that people can put wish lists in, see how well 279 00:11:23,127 --> 00:11:27,957 they'll compare based on what people report their parts and their builds do. 280 00:11:27,978 --> 00:11:30,827 So, uh, I'm, I'm doing a lot of fun stuff with this. 281 00:11:30,867 --> 00:11:36,087 It's gonna probably be at its final state in about two or three weeks, but it will 282 00:11:36,088 --> 00:11:37,627 be in a very good state in about a week. 283 00:11:38,367 --> 00:11:40,548 So, um, yeah. 284 00:11:40,877 --> 00:11:44,037 Um, yeah, this is what I've been working on, a big part of it. 285 00:11:44,047 --> 00:11:46,178 Cal- uh, caltrig.com, and then I also released a video on 286 00:11:46,178 --> 00:11:47,377 the Steam Machine last week. 287 00:11:47,907 --> 00:11:52,507 I've been busy 'cause, uh, not as much stuff to do at work right at this moment. 288 00:11:52,527 --> 00:11:55,267 And then, um, yeah, working on… I- 289 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:56,020 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: the SSD 290 00:11:57,277 --> 00:11:58,707 James: Yeah, you did, you did, you joined me. 291 00:11:58,707 --> 00:12:02,637 I, I swapped out the SSD on, uh, Games Revealed. 292 00:12:03,068 --> 00:12:04,777 Uh, yeah, really easy honestly. 293 00:12:04,777 --> 00:12:09,537 Like, the Steam Machine it, it, uh, it sh- I should say, I 294 00:12:09,538 --> 00:12:11,007 shouldn't say it's really easy. 295 00:12:11,547 --> 00:12:13,937 I had to unscrew a couple of, like, two parts. 296 00:12:13,937 --> 00:12:17,267 Then you have to unscrew the, um, the feet too, which I wasn't 297 00:12:17,267 --> 00:12:18,827 quite sure if you had to do that. 298 00:12:18,827 --> 00:12:22,747 And then you have to use a little, like, flathead screwdriver or 299 00:12:22,748 --> 00:12:24,098 something like that to pop it open. 300 00:12:24,137 --> 00:12:26,567 J- you don't have to, I don't think, but, like, that's how I had to do it, 301 00:12:26,597 --> 00:12:28,507 just pop the back and then it pops off. 302 00:12:28,707 --> 00:12:30,217 It just, the whole thing kinda slides off. 303 00:12:30,707 --> 00:12:34,987 Once you slide it off, then, um, you can see the u- the under 304 00:12:34,987 --> 00:12:36,598 part, which is just the SSD. 305 00:12:37,297 --> 00:12:40,707 Uh, like, so you can… Uh, and it comes with the what? 306 00:12:40,707 --> 00:12:41,877 The 2230? 307 00:12:42,147 --> 00:12:43,657 Am I getting that right? 308 00:12:43,678 --> 00:12:44,428 High tech, I always 309 00:12:44,572 --> 00:12:44,702 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's… 310 00:12:44,877 --> 00:12:45,177 James: it wrong. 311 00:12:45,372 --> 00:12:46,512 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's a, it's a 2230. 312 00:12:46,512 --> 00:12:46,782 It's the 313 00:12:46,857 --> 00:12:48,257 James: It's a 2230, yeah 314 00:12:48,522 --> 00:12:49,842 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: they use in the, they use in the Deck. 315 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:52,810 James: I, I slopped in the 2280 in there 316 00:12:53,552 --> 00:12:54,212 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 317 00:12:54,602 --> 00:13:01,362 Speaking of which, I have a PCIe Gen 4, uh, two terabyte, 318 00:13:02,512 --> 00:13:05,792 2230 in my old LCD Steam Deck. 319 00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:06,680 Gardiner: Hmm. 320 00:13:06,742 --> 00:13:10,622 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I need to harvest it and put it in my Steam Machine 321 00:13:12,682 --> 00:13:15,522 And then I'll have a two terabyte Steam machine. 322 00:13:15,942 --> 00:13:16,792 Saved a bunch of money 323 00:13:17,294 --> 00:13:21,424 James: So what I did with my Legion Go Two is that I'm gonna be doing some tests. 324 00:13:21,473 --> 00:13:24,103 I'm gonna be running my automation stuff on there because I'm gonna on- 325 00:13:24,154 --> 00:13:28,384 I wanna upload it to Couchrig, um, so that there's benchmarks and everything 326 00:13:28,384 --> 00:13:32,184 for that before I sell it, and I'm gonna do it for Windows and for Steam OS. 327 00:13:32,803 --> 00:13:40,093 I also wanna be do-- I wanna try doing the test suite on Bazzite and maybe Cachy. 328 00:13:41,353 --> 00:13:44,373 So I'm gonna be… That is the whole point of doing the automation thing, 329 00:13:44,384 --> 00:13:49,164 as I don't like re- doing repetitive stuff, uh, over and over and over again. 330 00:13:49,233 --> 00:13:52,933 And so the whole point is so that I can get some, like, automation going 331 00:13:52,933 --> 00:13:56,254 on some of these, so that I can do some guides and let people know and all that. 332 00:13:56,254 --> 00:13:57,983 So you know, it'll be fun. 333 00:13:58,084 --> 00:14:02,673 It'll be a fun little place where people can see what's, uh… And, 334 00:14:02,673 --> 00:14:06,773 and brag maybe of what they're, you know, what matters more to them. 335 00:14:08,454 --> 00:14:08,794 Yeah. 336 00:14:09,053 --> 00:14:10,023 So I don't know. 337 00:14:10,233 --> 00:14:10,553 Sorry 338 00:14:11,168 --> 00:14:11,518 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 339 00:14:12,092 --> 00:14:13,052 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Hey, man, all good, man. 340 00:14:13,052 --> 00:14:15,942 I've… If I'm being honest with you, man, I haven't had, I haven't done a 341 00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:17,722 whole lot besides play Steam Machine. 342 00:14:18,752 --> 00:14:23,372 I haven't done anything nearly as impressive as couchrig.com or, uh, 343 00:14:23,752 --> 00:14:28,142 build my own Steam Machine for that matter, but I played some games. 344 00:14:28,632 --> 00:14:29,392 I had some fun. 345 00:14:30,162 --> 00:14:35,242 Oh, yeah, I have, I have done, I have started up on something that may be of 346 00:14:35,252 --> 00:14:39,502 b- may, that may be of interest to not necessarily you guys, 'cause you guys 347 00:14:39,502 --> 00:14:42,022 are pretty good at doing things, but 348 00:14:46,606 --> 00:14:48,086 James: Yeah, you started your master class. 349 00:14:48,986 --> 00:14:49,546 Yeah 350 00:14:50,072 --> 00:14:51,852 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, it's coming 351 00:14:52,972 --> 00:14:53,792 James: Oh, nice 352 00:14:54,078 --> 00:14:54,978 Gardiner: Heck yes 353 00:14:55,904 --> 00:15:01,674 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And I'd show you, I'd show you, but like, I can't show… I 354 00:15:01,674 --> 00:15:06,874 can't like preview videos that are in like a, a premier state for some reason. 355 00:15:06,994 --> 00:15:07,914 It's whatever, I guess. 356 00:15:09,124 --> 00:15:09,854 But you'll see it. 357 00:15:09,874 --> 00:15:11,264 You'll see, you'll, you'll see, you'll see. 358 00:15:11,274 --> 00:15:13,884 It's, it's pretty freaking cool what I did for video editing. 359 00:15:15,256 --> 00:15:17,596 James: No, I'm excited for that. 360 00:15:18,045 --> 00:15:18,555 Great call out 361 00:15:19,616 --> 00:15:22,906 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But if you like this, if you like this episode 362 00:15:22,906 --> 00:15:25,876 or any other episodes, be sure to like and subscribe on YouTube. 363 00:15:26,326 --> 00:15:30,076 Check us out on subscr- castpod.subscribe2.me, or check 364 00:15:30,076 --> 00:15:30,986 us out on the new OffTheConsole 365 00:15:33,296 --> 00:15:34,226 offtheconsole.com. 366 00:15:35,076 --> 00:15:35,916 Great stuff. 367 00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:36,874 Gardiner: Heck yeah 368 00:15:37,116 --> 00:15:40,306 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So with that, we begin our episode with the Steam Fra- 369 00:15:40,386 --> 00:15:45,256 the Steam Frame, Valve's last major hardware that's yet to be released yet. 370 00:15:46,206 --> 00:15:47,596 They added a bunch of stuff, 371 00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:56,376 guided tours, uh, setup for play space boundaries, not being considered a work 372 00:15:56,376 --> 00:16:01,006 in progress anymore, library filters related to Steam Frame, and a bunch 373 00:16:01,006 --> 00:16:03,836 of other stuff that, I mean… Here. 374 00:16:04,636 --> 00:16:06,516 Here's so- another thing from Brad Lynch. 375 00:16:07,076 --> 00:16:08,406 Here's some controller shit. 376 00:16:09,416 --> 00:16:11,596 It's c- it, it, it… I think it's time, 377 00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:15,110 Gardiner: Dude, I'm excited 378 00:16:16,180 --> 00:16:17,030 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, look at this too. 379 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:18,380 PlaySpace. 380 00:16:20,950 --> 00:16:21,500 Look at that 381 00:16:22,490 --> 00:16:26,390 Gardiner: Use the brush by holding the trigger to add to your 382 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:30,900 place-based boundary and a- uh, adjust the floor height, then click 383 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:34,520 Or when finished, click confirm. 384 00:16:35,340 --> 00:16:36,180 Brush? 385 00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:36,860 Hmm 386 00:16:37,184 --> 00:16:41,014 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: als it's it's ki if if it's anything like what Facebook does with 387 00:16:41,094 --> 00:16:46,064 the Quest you just like draw a boundary using your controller and then you use 388 00:16:46,064 --> 00:16:51,434 the controller to determine the floor Uh but speaking of which a bunch of games 389 00:16:51,434 --> 00:16:57,364 have been verification ratings for the Steam Frame A lot of the usual suspects 390 00:16:57,384 --> 00:17:04,214 but there is one notable exception Beat Saber is not Steam Frame verified 391 00:17:06,938 --> 00:17:07,538 Gardiner: Interesting 392 00:17:07,588 --> 00:17:10,518 James: is it because of like copyright or do you think it's gonna run at all? 393 00:17:10,518 --> 00:17:14,217 Like, is it a copyright issue because of all the music or what? 394 00:17:16,328 --> 00:17:19,188 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well it's it's it's not another it's not a Steam 395 00:17:19,198 --> 00:17:21,348 frame unsupported specifically 396 00:17:22,362 --> 00:17:26,262 Gardiner: You'll probably be able to, like, stream it from a Windows PC 397 00:17:26,522 --> 00:17:27,022 or 398 00:17:27,112 --> 00:17:29,152 or, even a Linux PC, but, like, 399 00:17:30,176 --> 00:17:30,336 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh 400 00:17:30,342 --> 00:17:31,142 Gardiner: playing it natively 401 00:17:32,736 --> 00:17:37,936 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well there's also the major conspiracy though is that Beat Saber 402 00:17:38,756 --> 00:17:40,696 is owned by Facebook now I don't know if 403 00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:40,980 Gardiner: Yeah. 404 00:17:41,236 --> 00:17:41,606 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: or not 405 00:17:43,210 --> 00:17:43,730 Gardiner: Meta 406 00:17:43,778 --> 00:17:46,498 James: here's the thing too, like I've never seen it run on Steam OS. 407 00:17:47,258 --> 00:17:47,768 Have you? 408 00:17:47,778 --> 00:17:50,638 Like I don't… That's my point is like I don't know if it's compatible 409 00:17:50,638 --> 00:17:51,758 with Linux or if there's something 410 00:17:53,060 --> 00:17:56,530 Gardiner: I have played it on my living room Steam Machine 411 00:17:56,530 --> 00:17:58,490 that I already have on Linux. 412 00:17:58,620 --> 00:17:59,050 It's, 413 00:17:59,170 --> 00:17:59,710 James: Nice 414 00:17:59,770 --> 00:18:00,620 Gardiner: work very well. 415 00:18:00,970 --> 00:18:04,950 It like, actually Beat Saber is one of the games that makes me feel like 416 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,320 immediately sick when I play it on Linux. 417 00:18:07,970 --> 00:18:08,420 Um, 418 00:18:09,486 --> 00:18:09,776 James: But, uh, 419 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:10,200 Gardiner: yeah 420 00:18:10,736 --> 00:18:12,566 James: th- that's good to know that at least works though 421 00:18:14,632 --> 00:18:17,522 Gardiner: I mean, works with heavy air quotes. 422 00:18:17,542 --> 00:18:18,212 I mean, like 423 00:18:18,257 --> 00:18:21,398 James: W- what I'm saying is it's not DRM locked or anything. 424 00:18:21,408 --> 00:18:22,727 That's what I was worried about 425 00:18:24,022 --> 00:18:26,042 Gardiner: The game's graphic settings cannot be configured 426 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,582 to run well on Steam Frame. 427 00:18:27,682 --> 00:18:29,372 That's what their reasoning is. 428 00:18:30,032 --> 00:18:30,922 Which makes sense. 429 00:18:30,942 --> 00:18:35,932 I mean, like, it there's so much micro stutter on Linux with pretty 430 00:18:35,932 --> 00:18:39,682 much any game that you play in VR. 431 00:18:39,982 --> 00:18:46,972 It, it's I am really excited for the Steam Frame because I hope that this 432 00:18:46,982 --> 00:18:51,412 is, like, a solution for Linux VR. 433 00:18:51,822 --> 00:18:55,062 Um, because as it stands, it's not good, like, with the 434 00:18:55,062 --> 00:18:57,202 Steam, uh, with the Valve Index 435 00:18:57,620 --> 00:19:00,500 James: Well, that's, I'm, I'm, I'm assuming that the Steam Frame's 436 00:19:00,510 --> 00:19:02,760 gonna work great with the Steam Machine, I would hope, right? 437 00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:04,360 Gardiner: Yeah, I would 438 00:19:04,379 --> 00:19:04,399 James: S- 439 00:19:05,094 --> 00:19:06,224 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I would imagine so 440 00:19:06,902 --> 00:19:07,512 James: I hope so 441 00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:11,284 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't I don't know if the Steam Machine has that dongle but like 442 00:19:11,314 --> 00:19:15,584 if even if it doesn't have the builtin one you can use the one that external dongle 443 00:19:15,956 --> 00:19:22,406 James: Yeah, I'm more or less like assuming for like performance-wise, 444 00:19:22,416 --> 00:19:23,886 like for the video card and all that. 445 00:19:24,106 --> 00:19:28,536 Also, what does that dongle require like, um, USB-wise? 446 00:19:28,546 --> 00:19:30,446 Is… I'm assuming you wouldn't be able to plug it into the 447 00:19:30,446 --> 00:19:32,796 back 'cause that's a USB-A 2.0 448 00:19:32,834 --> 00:19:34,064 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: In your Steam Let's find out 449 00:19:34,894 --> 00:19:38,474 James: 'Cause that, that's one of my, a huge gripe of mine with the 450 00:19:38,474 --> 00:19:41,384 Steam Machine is that they put a bunch of really dated ports on It, 451 00:19:43,626 --> 00:19:46,936 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I agree man I think it should've I think it should've 452 00:19:47,016 --> 00:19:49,916 all been USB 3 Or at least put some in the ba or put some in the 453 00:19:49,916 --> 00:19:53,286 back though cause like that's a good way to hide your external SSDs 454 00:19:53,622 --> 00:20:01,262 James: it needs a, a USB, uh, C… It needs two USB-Cs, one, um, uh, 455 00:20:03,291 --> 00:20:03,962 USB4 or higher. 456 00:20:05,102 --> 00:20:08,241 Yeah, like version two of the f- four, which is a higher spec. 457 00:20:08,241 --> 00:20:11,072 I think it's closer to the Thunderbolt 5, but I- they coulda 458 00:20:11,102 --> 00:20:12,551 done something like, I don't know. 459 00:20:13,516 --> 00:20:13,886 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 460 00:20:14,401 --> 00:20:17,222 James: It really, like, I was really disappointed to see that it doesn't have 461 00:20:17,222 --> 00:20:20,571 a USB4 in it, or a USB, you know, 4.0 462 00:20:22,146 --> 00:20:26,486 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah I mean I feel like it 463 00:20:29,246 --> 00:20:32,116 it would've been a much better value proposition had it had 464 00:20:32,126 --> 00:20:34,036 USB4 I mean there's a lot of 465 00:20:34,190 --> 00:20:34,460 James: Yeah 466 00:20:34,546 --> 00:20:38,366 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that would've made a better pr value proposition like Express 467 00:20:38,366 --> 00:20:42,556 on the Steam Machine That would've been sick Like it's the like the 468 00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:46,358 James: it is nice that, it is nice that it's, uh, w- is that 469 00:20:46,368 --> 00:20:47,558 backwards compatible though? 470 00:20:47,558 --> 00:20:50,637 Like, it is nice that this is backwards compatible with this… Okay, okay. 471 00:20:51,474 --> 00:20:51,644 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The 472 00:20:51,707 --> 00:20:52,697 James: Then yeah, I agree with you 473 00:20:52,734 --> 00:20:55,984 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: why the Switch I mean like the Switch 2 isn't but that's because 474 00:20:56,014 --> 00:21:00,764 Nintendo wants to run Switch 2 games off of the faster storage and like you 475 00:21:00,908 --> 00:21:01,558 James: Hmm 476 00:21:01,834 --> 00:21:03,914 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: micro SD cards are much slower right 477 00:21:04,654 --> 00:21:05,174 James: Yeah, yeah. 478 00:21:05,984 --> 00:21:07,024 No, I agree with that. 479 00:21:07,054 --> 00:21:10,184 It would make thing… Like, if it's backwards compatible, then yeah, I agree. 480 00:21:10,234 --> 00:21:12,334 But it is a cost proposition thing. 481 00:21:13,144 --> 00:21:17,624 I… Maybe it's a hot take, I'd rather have USB4 than a faster 482 00:21:17,624 --> 00:21:19,293 GPU in the, in the Steam Machine. 483 00:21:19,293 --> 00:21:21,813 Steam Machine, like, the GPU is pretty good. 484 00:21:21,834 --> 00:21:24,824 It's good enough for what I want it to do, and I've been playing tons of 485 00:21:24,824 --> 00:21:27,004 games, and it's been running fine. 486 00:21:27,716 --> 00:21:28,106 Gardiner: Hmm 487 00:21:28,263 --> 00:21:29,484 James: So, like 488 00:21:29,516 --> 00:21:33,626 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I have no problem I have no qualms with running games at 1440p Like 489 00:21:34,606 --> 00:21:34,926 James: Yeah 490 00:21:36,202 --> 00:21:38,612 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like Gardner if you like if you guys recall the 491 00:21:38,612 --> 00:21:41,912 uh you would dock your Steam Deck 492 00:21:42,572 --> 00:21:42,812 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 493 00:21:42,992 --> 00:21:46,162 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: like a TV and there are some resolution options If you 494 00:21:46,162 --> 00:21:49,742 go into if you go into a gamespecific resolution options you can change like 495 00:21:50,582 --> 00:21:52,752 the maximum resolution the game sees 496 00:21:53,146 --> 00:21:53,576 Gardiner: Yes 497 00:21:53,882 --> 00:21:58,742 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that If you You can set that to like between 4K You could 498 00:21:58,742 --> 00:22:02,672 probably set it above 4K if you had a bigger if you had an 8K display Uh 499 00:22:02,842 --> 00:22:03,162 Gardiner: Mmhmm 500 00:22:04,342 --> 00:22:04,802 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: what I 501 00:22:05,092 --> 00:22:05,322 Oh 502 00:22:05,532 --> 00:22:12,722 Gardiner: believe you can set the value, like the, the virtual resolution of 503 00:22:12,882 --> 00:22:18,062 Steam OS to any n- like, to basically anything, means you would be able to 504 00:22:18,062 --> 00:22:23,812 super s- super sample, um, like if you had a, if you had a 4K screen and 505 00:22:23,812 --> 00:22:28,092 you wanted to super sample, you could set the virtual resolution to 8K or 506 00:22:28,092 --> 00:22:30,612 even 6K and then down sample it to 4K. 507 00:22:31,402 --> 00:22:36,222 And think I could be wrong about that, but I feel like I read about that somewhere. 508 00:22:37,378 --> 00:22:40,318 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That sounds a little too crazy for the Steam Machine to be honest 509 00:22:40,404 --> 00:22:43,304 Gardiner: No, it's gonna… Yeah, that would not be possible 510 00:22:43,348 --> 00:22:45,648 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: for your home That'd be like for your home 511 00:22:45,648 --> 00:22:46,968 brew Steam Machine Gardner 512 00:22:48,316 --> 00:22:48,716 Gardiner: Yeah. 513 00:22:49,126 --> 00:22:50,716 I'm excited about this thing, man. 514 00:22:50,946 --> 00:22:51,506 Golly 515 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,230 James: Steam Frame. 516 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:57,260 Are you gonna be getting one, Gardiner? 517 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:58,630 Is that what you've been holding out for 518 00:23:00,844 --> 00:23:04,394 Gardiner: I liter- yeah, I literally I saw the Steam Machine was gonna be 519 00:23:04,394 --> 00:23:08,654 about 1,000 bucks, and the, I bet you the Frame is gonna be about 1,000 bucks. 520 00:23:09,024 --> 00:23:11,904 And if I was gonna buy one over the other, 'cause I don't wanna buy 521 00:23:11,904 --> 00:23:15,984 both, I don't have that kind of money right now, would buy the Steam Frame. 522 00:23:16,454 --> 00:23:20,554 And, uh, I love VR, and I don't play it enough because 523 00:23:20,554 --> 00:23:21,884 setting up the Steam Frame… 524 00:23:21,974 --> 00:23:24,184 I mean, setting up the Index just sucks. 525 00:23:24,634 --> 00:23:29,884 So, um, being able to have a standalone unit that I can play 526 00:23:30,004 --> 00:23:33,614 VR with anytime just by putting a headset on is gonna be killer. 527 00:23:34,158 --> 00:23:35,678 James: That's what I'm wanting right now. 528 00:23:35,678 --> 00:23:41,467 And I, I, I really like my Index, but like you said, setting it up and making 529 00:23:41,467 --> 00:23:43,207 s- I, I just don't wanna deal with it. 530 00:23:43,487 --> 00:23:47,357 So, um, yeah, no, I'm really excited for the Steam Frame. 531 00:23:47,408 --> 00:23:52,237 I'm, and I, I told myself if I get the Steam Machine and the Steam Frame 532 00:23:52,237 --> 00:23:55,217 comes out and it's, and it's, uh, a little bit more than the Steam Machine, 533 00:23:55,328 --> 00:23:58,527 I can always sell the, sell the S- Steam Machine if I need to to get it. 534 00:23:58,838 --> 00:24:03,387 But I'm gonna reserve it and hopefully… No, I'm probably not going to. 535 00:24:03,388 --> 00:24:08,807 I'm hopefully getting both, so I'll, I'll, once the Steam Frame's reservations 536 00:24:08,807 --> 00:24:13,107 start, I'm gonna get onto that, and then whenever it comes and I get it, awesome. 537 00:24:13,287 --> 00:24:16,717 I'm kinda hoping for a couple, like, like a month to give me time to 538 00:24:16,717 --> 00:24:18,217 recover from getting the Steam Machine 539 00:24:20,236 --> 00:24:25,636 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well I mean you Here's the thing though You do need so you 540 00:24:25,636 --> 00:24:30,506 can play games on both your machine and frame and thankfully Valve has made the 541 00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:31,169 James: Yeah. 542 00:24:31,246 --> 00:24:33,656 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: listing and gifting much much easier 543 00:24:34,340 --> 00:24:34,710 Gardiner: Hmm. 544 00:24:34,936 --> 00:24:35,916 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So have you guys heard about this 545 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Gardiner: No 546 00:24:38,562 --> 00:24:41,692 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So basically there's been updates to the wish listing 547 00:24:41,692 --> 00:24:46,202 where you can add wish listed games to a category of sorts if you see 548 00:24:46,202 --> 00:24:47,792 this GIF right here that they posted 549 00:24:48,105 --> 00:24:52,105 Gardiner: อืม 550 00:24:52,602 --> 00:24:54,752 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Fun for Deck Buy When on Sale 551 00:24:55,205 --> 00:24:55,785 Gardiner: เอา need 552 00:24:55,812 --> 00:24:59,262 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Remakes You can you can make categories for basically 553 00:24:59,262 --> 00:25:04,372 anything Uh one here that says Samantha's Birthday for Edge of 554 00:25:04,372 --> 00:25:10,502 Memories This is Valve's screenshots by the way know a Samantha You can 555 00:25:10,622 --> 00:25:10,642 Gardiner: Yeah. 556 00:25:10,692 --> 00:25:10,872 I don't know 557 00:25:10,902 --> 00:25:14,582 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: arra you can also sort by your categories Heck you can 558 00:25:14,582 --> 00:25:18,632 even make links to those categories too in case you wanted to send a 559 00:25:18,632 --> 00:25:20,372 wishlist to your friend you know 560 00:25:20,854 --> 00:25:21,414 Gardiner: Oh, cool. 561 00:25:21,852 --> 00:25:22,322 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah 562 00:25:23,344 --> 00:25:27,114 Gardiner: Can you control like public or, or visibility of 563 00:25:27,114 --> 00:25:29,764 the, of those wishlist lists? 564 00:25:30,994 --> 00:25:31,414 Categories? 565 00:25:32,834 --> 00:25:33,784 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: let's see 566 00:25:34,084 --> 00:25:34,674 Gardiner: Sharing 567 00:25:35,604 --> 00:25:37,474 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah it seems it seems like 568 00:25:40,152 --> 00:25:41,782 James: Wish lists always public or are they 569 00:25:41,966 --> 00:25:45,486 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: like you well you can set your wishlist to private but you 570 00:25:45,486 --> 00:25:48,296 can make specific categories public 571 00:25:48,794 --> 00:25:49,484 Gardiner: That's cool. 572 00:25:49,952 --> 00:25:50,652 James: I do like that. 573 00:25:50,852 --> 00:25:51,602 I do like that 574 00:25:52,322 --> 00:25:57,972 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah so that's that is pretty cool Uh but this and also you 575 00:25:57,972 --> 00:26:02,282 can go to someone else's wishlist and directly purchase as g a gift right here 576 00:26:03,222 --> 00:26:03,872 James: I like that 577 00:26:03,912 --> 00:26:06,562 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: There's a little button that shows up and it just sends it to them 578 00:26:06,582 --> 00:26:11,472 directly without having to go through the old song and dance has also changed too 579 00:26:11,512 --> 00:26:16,822 Here we c we gotta talk about this too So if you guys don't know Steam gifting 580 00:26:17,502 --> 00:26:22,142 is something that not every console has Like you can't do it on for some reason 581 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,130 Which is great for Sony's all digital future 582 00:26:30,616 --> 00:26:33,706 James: Which do we have that, that they're, they went down this week? 583 00:26:34,836 --> 00:26:37,566 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh I don't think we have that specific topic 584 00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:39,226 James: We might need to talk about that. 585 00:26:39,266 --> 00:26:41,776 I might have to get that because I think they went down. 586 00:26:41,776 --> 00:26:46,686 So it's like AWS went down and so no, anyone that had digital, 587 00:26:46,716 --> 00:26:48,976 uh, copies couldn't play 588 00:26:50,266 --> 00:26:51,576 Gardiner: That's hilarious 589 00:26:51,808 --> 00:26:55,838 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Amazing Uh but we got with it we gotta 590 00:26:55,878 --> 00:26:57,288 cover this gifting situation 591 00:26:57,550 --> 00:26:58,230 James: Yeah, let's do it 592 00:26:58,478 --> 00:27:04,078 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: guest checkout You can you can check out as a guest anonymously 593 00:27:04,338 --> 00:27:09,658 or at least not at least Yeah so you can check out you can you can send a gift 594 00:27:09,748 --> 00:27:14,268 via email this way so in case you don't know your coworker's uh Steam account 595 00:27:14,268 --> 00:27:18,638 or whatever you can send it that way You can also just gift to email as well You 596 00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:21,168 just put an email in they'll claim it 597 00:27:23,330 --> 00:27:26,250 There's also Oh but this is the big one crossregion gifting 598 00:27:28,834 --> 00:27:32,324 So if you have friends that live in like a different region different 599 00:27:32,324 --> 00:27:37,044 regions have different regional pricings and historically you weren't able to 600 00:27:37,044 --> 00:27:41,294 buy games for friends in different regions because of this But now 601 00:27:41,294 --> 00:27:46,374 you can you just pay the difference or you pay whatever their price is 602 00:27:49,004 --> 00:27:49,514 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 603 00:27:49,734 --> 00:27:50,354 Interesting 604 00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:55,580 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah so like if you have a friend in Argentina or 605 00:27:55,580 --> 00:28:00,620 whatever you pay their much lower price to get them a a copy of a game 606 00:28:01,706 --> 00:28:04,146 James: But if my account's set to Argentina and you can, you 607 00:28:04,146 --> 00:28:05,596 can gift me something high tech. 608 00:28:06,326 --> 00:28:07,735 Can I get cheaper prices 609 00:28:09,386 --> 00:28:12,296 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well I would be ha paying but yes that's that that's the idea But 610 00:28:12,654 --> 00:28:12,994 James: Yeah. 611 00:28:13,766 --> 00:28:14,536 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: yes Uh 612 00:28:14,684 --> 00:28:17,354 James: I'm curious how they're gonna region lock all this to make it so 613 00:28:17,354 --> 00:28:20,594 that people can't, like, game it. 614 00:28:20,652 --> 00:28:20,892 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: exploit 615 00:28:20,924 --> 00:28:21,954 James: It'll be interesting, yeah 616 00:28:22,132 --> 00:28:24,422 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They'll probably make it so that you can't be Steam 617 00:28:24,442 --> 00:28:28,042 friends list you can't be s you can't be on like a Steam family with someone 618 00:28:28,042 --> 00:28:29,722 from Argentina or some crap like that 619 00:28:30,586 --> 00:28:31,015 James: That's true 620 00:28:31,314 --> 00:28:34,554 Gardiner: Family only allows people in the same household, 621 00:28:34,564 --> 00:28:36,114 James: Th- that is, that's true, yeah. 622 00:28:37,218 --> 00:28:37,718 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah 623 00:28:37,984 --> 00:28:38,474 James: I missed that part 624 00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:42,798 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: let's see what else There's also direct from wishlist We 625 00:28:42,798 --> 00:28:47,738 talked about that earlier basically it so all good stuff This is probably the 626 00:28:47,748 --> 00:28:49,738 biggest one here cross region gifting 627 00:28:51,260 --> 00:28:51,360 Gardiner: Yeah. 628 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,650 Meanwhile, Sony doesn't even support, like, 200 of the 270 countries 629 00:28:57,650 --> 00:29:00,630 in the world for PlayStation Network or something like that. 630 00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:04,200 It, they don't support, like, 70% of the entire world, and 631 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,150 they're going all digital. 632 00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:06,739 James: Yeah, they're gonna be losing 633 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:09,900 Gardiner: over here, like, supporting gifting across regions 634 00:29:10,764 --> 00:29:15,314 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Xbox however doesn't seem to have that issue In fact Xbox 635 00:29:15,314 --> 00:29:21,644 is making plays positive plays I would imagine backwards compatibility on PC 636 00:29:23,108 --> 00:29:23,478 Gardiner: Hmm. 637 00:29:24,038 --> 00:29:27,768 So they're bringing their official Xbox emulator to PC? 638 00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:29,500 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes and 639 00:29:29,538 --> 00:29:29,928 Gardiner: kinda neat 640 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,050 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: in fact I think you can already play these if you have So 641 00:29:34,050 --> 00:29:38,550 this is to be clear this is Windows only as uh as far as I know I don't 642 00:29:38,550 --> 00:29:42,890 know if there's any way for us to reverse engineer it import it backwards 643 00:29:43,230 --> 00:29:46,100 to Linux but sure it's possible right 644 00:29:47,050 --> 00:29:49,340 James: Uh, I, it, what, what's this running on? 645 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,040 Is this using, like, Game Pass or is this just a installer? 646 00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:55,280 'Cause Proton, 647 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:55,704 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's 648 00:29:56,459 --> 00:29:58,790 James: unless there's a DRM blocking it, Proton should be 649 00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:00,240 able to translate it somewhat. 650 00:30:00,490 --> 00:30:00,880 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I think 651 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:01,750 James: Proton with Wine 652 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,530 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: app so not 653 00:30:04,654 --> 00:30:05,044 James: Yeah. 654 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,270 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Proton 655 00:30:06,944 --> 00:30:07,524 James: Yeah 656 00:30:07,544 --> 00:30:09,484 Gardiner: I ask this with all sincerity. 657 00:30:09,864 --> 00:30:13,464 This supports four, four titles, original Xbox titles. 658 00:30:14,664 --> 00:30:18,674 What's, what's the benefit of using the official emulator that only supports 659 00:30:18,684 --> 00:30:22,524 four games versus using QEMU or XQEMU? 660 00:30:23,861 --> 00:30:24,841 James: I agree with you on that. 661 00:30:25,562 --> 00:30:25,922 Gardiner: Yeah. 662 00:30:25,962 --> 00:30:26,161 James: just 663 00:30:26,212 --> 00:30:27,591 just makes it easier for people. 664 00:30:27,591 --> 00:30:31,782 Some people don't wanna, uh, I, I, I mean, a lot of gamers just 665 00:30:31,861 --> 00:30:33,212 do not wanna deal with it at all. 666 00:30:33,562 --> 00:30:36,661 Deal with setting stuff up, managing it, trying to get a ROM 667 00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:40,830 Gardiner: Yes, and we are talking about, you know, people who are subscribed to 668 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,270 Game Pass and who are, I, I mean, at least hypothetically going to be console gamers. 669 00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:49,350 So they, they're the kind of people who would wanna use the official 670 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:51,820 thing and not have to screw around with setting up an emulator. 671 00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:54,450 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah These are also individually available to 672 00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:57,220 purchase too So you can buy these 673 00:30:57,226 --> 00:30:57,606 Gardiner: Oh. 674 00:30:57,620 --> 00:30:58,330 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you want to 675 00:30:59,516 --> 00:31:01,076 Gardiner: Is that through the Microsoft Store? 676 00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:06,420 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes yes yes It would be through the Microsoft Store So 677 00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:08,822 Gardiner: let, let's, do, do we know what the prices are for those? 678 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,210 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh 679 00:31:10,482 --> 00:31:12,222 Gardiner: $60 per title? 680 00:31:12,942 --> 00:31:15,552 'Cause that's the kind of shit I expect from Microsoft. 681 00:31:15,992 --> 00:31:16,532 James: $10 682 00:31:16,602 --> 00:31:17,612 Gardiner: $9.99. 683 00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:18,562 Wow. 684 00:31:18,902 --> 00:31:19,422 Okay 685 00:31:20,938 --> 00:31:21,198 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Here's 686 00:31:21,262 --> 00:31:22,341 James: Yeah, I'm down for that. 687 00:31:22,692 --> 00:31:23,442 I'm down for that. 688 00:31:24,712 --> 00:31:28,331 To be fair, the only title I want on that is Conquer Live and Reloaded 689 00:31:29,018 --> 00:31:29,028 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 690 00:31:30,018 --> 00:31:31,448 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah there's a lot of there's not a whole lot 691 00:31:31,448 --> 00:31:33,418 of e true Xbox exclusives but 692 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:34,600 James: Maybe blinks 693 00:31:35,738 --> 00:31:37,018 Gardiner: Yeah, Blinx was fun. 694 00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:37,520 James: Yeah 695 00:31:37,598 --> 00:31:39,158 Gardiner: and that's also $10. 696 00:31:39,596 --> 00:31:39,716 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'm 697 00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:40,240 James: Yeah 698 00:31:40,366 --> 00:31:42,426 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: one of these I've played is Fuzion Frenzy 699 00:31:42,810 --> 00:31:44,290 Gardiner: Yeah, Fusion Frenzy's good. 700 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,580 Um, 701 00:31:45,838 --> 00:31:46,468 James: I'm just trying to remember 702 00:31:47,390 --> 00:31:48,810 Gardiner: games, what are the 703 00:31:49,129 --> 00:31:50,090 James: Oh, that's right 704 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:51,840 Gardiner: Like 705 00:31:52,094 --> 00:31:52,264 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh 706 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,410 Gardiner: Jet Set Radio, Fable I, yeah. 707 00:31:56,366 --> 00:31:58,456 James: Yeah, but you can get… So here's the, here's the problem with some of 708 00:31:58,456 --> 00:32:01,466 those is that Fable 1's already on Steam. 709 00:32:02,202 --> 00:32:02,572 Gardiner: Yes. 710 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:02,760 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it 711 00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:04,845 James: you can already play Fable 1 there. 712 00:32:04,846 --> 00:32:07,876 You can probably get it on Xbox's, uh, PC store. 713 00:32:08,752 --> 00:32:09,052 Gardiner: Yeah 714 00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:12,586 James: of these you can already get there, which is also kind interesting. 715 00:32:12,636 --> 00:32:14,845 They could pro- Yeah, I'm wondering. 716 00:32:15,116 --> 00:32:15,546 Hmm 717 00:32:16,384 --> 00:32:21,584 Gardiner: Dude, also, sorry James, um, if you look at the, the required, 718 00:32:21,604 --> 00:32:28,734 like the specifications required for these Xbox games, a, a GTX 950. 719 00:32:29,774 --> 00:32:30,073 James: Yeah 720 00:32:30,784 --> 00:32:33,584 Gardiner: a Core i3 10300, like whoa, 721 00:32:33,758 --> 00:32:34,388 James: intense 722 00:32:35,494 --> 00:32:35,744 Gardiner: Yeah. 723 00:32:36,694 --> 00:32:36,994 Ugh. 724 00:32:38,924 --> 00:32:39,774 I love that 725 00:32:40,222 --> 00:32:44,112 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: yeah it's crazy man I mean hell heck I I don't even 726 00:32:44,112 --> 00:32:46,702 think the Xbox had one gig of uh RAM 727 00:32:47,706 --> 00:32:53,026 Gardiner: T- the Xbox, the original Xbox had, uh, 64 megabytes of RAM, I think. 728 00:32:53,646 --> 00:32:55,576 Like, or maybe that might have been the dev kit. 729 00:32:55,586 --> 00:32:58,176 I- it might have been, like, 32 megabytes of RAM 730 00:32:58,476 --> 00:32:58,966 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'm pretty sure 731 00:32:59,128 --> 00:32:59,778 James: 64. 732 00:32:59,836 --> 00:33:00,666 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: to run Windows 11 733 00:33:00,730 --> 00:33:01,460 Gardiner: Or 64. 734 00:33:01,568 --> 00:33:05,588 James: So yeah, the original Xbox had 64 megabytes of DDR SDRAM, and 735 00:33:05,588 --> 00:33:08,658 then Xbox 360 had 512 megabytes. 736 00:33:08,668 --> 00:33:10,248 Wow, it actually has lower than I thought. 737 00:33:10,288 --> 00:33:11,788 I didn't, don't remem- huh 738 00:33:12,994 --> 00:33:14,424 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude Fable I is sick 739 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,990 James: And then 740 00:33:16,298 --> 00:33:16,628 Gardiner: Uh 741 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:20,200 James: One has eight, and then Xbox Series X has 16. 742 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,170 Like, holy crap , we just written exponentially larger, but 743 00:33:24,474 --> 00:33:25,044 Gardiner: Yeah. 744 00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:26,630 James: that's stopped 745 00:33:27,744 --> 00:33:31,134 Gardiner: I will say that the, um, the version of Fable that's 746 00:33:31,134 --> 00:33:33,714 on Steam is quite crusty. 747 00:33:33,784 --> 00:33:38,474 I don't know if you've played it or tried to play it, it feels 748 00:33:38,474 --> 00:33:41,584 like a, an early 2000s PC game. 749 00:33:41,764 --> 00:33:42,234 Like 750 00:33:42,476 --> 00:33:46,986 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I have not played the Fable One Fable One PC port 751 00:33:47,354 --> 00:33:47,984 Gardiner: Yeah. 752 00:33:48,074 --> 00:33:49,144 It, like, 753 00:33:49,544 --> 00:33:53,354 James: they have a remastered version that i- that does feel 754 00:33:53,354 --> 00:33:55,204 better, at least for me at least. 755 00:33:55,454 --> 00:33:56,754 I- it did, yeah, when I tried it. 756 00:33:56,754 --> 00:34:00,634 But once again, it's still, it, it's a little, it's … The game 757 00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:01,913 itself is just a little crusty 758 00:34:02,810 --> 00:34:03,210 Gardiner: Yeah. 759 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:05,460 Oh boy. 760 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,700 James: I, I honestly, 761 00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:07,890 Gardiner: know, 762 00:34:08,090 --> 00:34:09,670 James: I'm really excited for the new Fable. 763 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,409 Like, the new Fable looks really good 764 00:34:12,122 --> 00:34:12,552 Gardiner: Yeah 765 00:34:12,572 --> 00:34:14,952 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: dude I miss yeah I miss Fable one I need to see if 766 00:34:14,952 --> 00:34:18,612 the I need to I need to see how bad this crusty port really gets 767 00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:19,810 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 768 00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:26,510 Now, uh, for, for Xbox, this emulation, uh, backwards compatibility shit, uh, 769 00:34:28,890 --> 00:34:33,270 like this is only original Xbox right now, but presumably this may 770 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:35,590 include 360 games at some point. 771 00:34:37,090 --> 00:34:39,870 what 360 games would you guys wanna see? 772 00:34:41,026 --> 00:34:47,446 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh there's quite a few actually There's uh there's Lost Odyssey 773 00:34:47,898 --> 00:34:48,488 Gardiner: Yes. 774 00:34:50,178 --> 00:34:52,228 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That's basically like Final Fantasy X 775 00:34:52,782 --> 00:34:53,202 James: Yeah 776 00:34:54,258 --> 00:34:55,928 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh let's see what else there is There's uh 777 00:34:57,952 --> 00:34:58,662 James: I would l- 778 00:34:59,088 --> 00:34:59,098 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: II 779 00:34:59,502 --> 00:35:02,862 James: like to see them just port it over 'cause a lot of like, the, 780 00:35:02,862 --> 00:35:07,032 the nice thing about Xbox is its architecture is very compatible with, um, 781 00:35:07,034 --> 00:35:07,044 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 782 00:35:07,382 --> 00:35:08,622 James: Windows itself. 783 00:35:08,952 --> 00:35:12,992 And so, um, th- there's no reason why they couldn't. 784 00:35:13,041 --> 00:35:15,332 And it's built on DirectX, I think all of them. 785 00:35:15,342 --> 00:35:17,691 Like, there's no reason they just couldn't be porting these instead of doing like 786 00:35:17,711 --> 00:35:19,911 emulators and emulation kinda style 787 00:35:20,082 --> 00:35:22,652 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: they could easily port they they could easily port these 788 00:35:22,672 --> 00:35:27,792 cause Mistwalker is still around and also Microsoft published this so like 789 00:35:30,042 --> 00:35:32,512 Gardiner: You know what game I would like to see from the 360? 790 00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:35,592 Hydro Thunder Hurricane. 791 00:35:37,642 --> 00:35:38,552 It was an Xbox 792 00:35:38,618 --> 00:35:39,258 James: names 793 00:35:39,622 --> 00:35:47,662 Gardiner: title, and it's exclusive to 360, and it is so much fun. 794 00:35:48,502 --> 00:35:54,502 It's a boat race, boat racing game, and it, dude, it is unbelievably good 795 00:35:56,514 --> 00:35:57,624 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It does look quite nice 796 00:35:57,978 --> 00:35:58,368 Gardiner: Yeah. 797 00:35:59,538 --> 00:36:00,528 It plays very well 798 00:36:00,888 --> 00:36:02,348 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: There's there's a surprising number 799 00:36:02,348 --> 00:36:04,768 of Xbox 360 exclusives uh 800 00:36:04,876 --> 00:36:05,236 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 801 00:36:05,298 --> 00:36:07,098 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that never made it off the console I'd have to 802 00:36:07,098 --> 00:36:09,028 look more into them but I know uh 803 00:36:09,994 --> 00:36:10,324 James: PC. 804 00:36:10,704 --> 00:36:13,844 Like the top 10 list that I'm reading, I think they're all on PC. 805 00:36:13,844 --> 00:36:18,934 Halo 3, BioShock, Mass Effect 2, The Orange Box, which, you know, the, it- 806 00:36:18,984 --> 00:36:24,994 itself I… Yeah, actually itself was… You just get it on s- uh, you'd have to… 807 00:36:25,304 --> 00:36:26,564 Yeah, I'm, I'm not gonna go into that. 808 00:36:27,164 --> 00:36:32,164 Elder Scrolls V, like Red, Red Dead Redemption, Grand Theft Auto, uh, IV, 809 00:36:32,164 --> 00:36:36,584 Gears of War, Fallout 3, Forza Motorsports 4, those are all, I believe, available 810 00:36:36,584 --> 00:36:38,453 on even Steam, I believe, right? 811 00:36:38,453 --> 00:36:39,754 So, huh. 812 00:36:41,026 --> 00:36:41,446 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah 813 00:36:41,504 --> 00:36:44,433 James: just the smaller titles that aren't as available. 814 00:36:45,762 --> 00:36:46,312 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah 815 00:36:46,323 --> 00:36:47,784 James: saying that they're not good though, of course 816 00:36:49,532 --> 00:36:53,212 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I suspect a lot of what really took the wind out of Xbox emulation 817 00:36:53,222 --> 00:36:57,772 was the uh that Halo is available on PC 818 00:36:58,166 --> 00:36:59,096 Gardiner: Mm, yeah 819 00:36:59,202 --> 00:37:02,332 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: darn good port now It's not not even the old crusty uh 820 00:37:02,352 --> 00:37:05,242 Gearbox ports from like the dark ages 821 00:37:07,064 --> 00:37:12,254 James: Oh, hard to sit the port games over or even like do, um, how they 822 00:37:12,254 --> 00:37:16,544 d- decompile or whatever and then recompile as PCs, uh, compatible 823 00:37:16,824 --> 00:37:16,894 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: W 824 00:37:17,818 --> 00:37:23,178 Gardiner: There are a few proprietary, uh, like effects, like buffer effects for, 825 00:37:23,256 --> 00:37:24,116 James: Hmm 826 00:37:24,328 --> 00:37:25,188 Gardiner: specifically. 827 00:37:25,668 --> 00:37:31,348 Um, and if you look, if you compare like the gearbox port of Halo, like 828 00:37:31,348 --> 00:37:35,808 Combat Evolved to the Xbox release, it is missing several graphical 829 00:37:35,808 --> 00:37:42,138 effects because of the, uh, of the like special, um, shading and stuff 830 00:37:42,624 --> 00:37:42,914 James: Mm-hmm. 831 00:37:43,934 --> 00:37:45,104 I could, I could see that. 832 00:37:45,614 --> 00:37:50,594 I could see that for sure, which is stupid honestly, but proprietary shading 833 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:52,210 Gardiner: Yeah. 834 00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:57,410 And I mean, it's weird because it's like, my understanding is like that the original 835 00:37:57,410 --> 00:38:00,350 Xbox had almost off-the-shelf components. 836 00:38:00,350 --> 00:38:06,600 Like pretty much everything was PC components, but Nvidia did include a 837 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:13,550 few extra things in the GPU that like, per Microsoft's request I would imagine. 838 00:38:14,190 --> 00:38:17,410 Um, but it made it less compatible with PC hardware 839 00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:22,580 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah I'm I don't know too much about that truth be 840 00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:27,820 told I feel like they could have reimplemented have to reimplement 841 00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:29,090 that stuff manually now wouldn't they 842 00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:30,250 Gardiner: Yeah. 843 00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:35,180 Well, that's why, I mean, that's why emulation is the, the go-to with this 844 00:38:36,386 --> 00:38:41,276 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah That's why decomp and recomp projects have been also a major 845 00:38:41,732 --> 00:38:42,192 Gardiner: Hmm. 846 00:38:42,316 --> 00:38:45,926 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: there have been so many new decompilations and recompilations 847 00:38:46,202 --> 00:38:46,612 Gardiner: Yeah. 848 00:38:46,696 --> 00:38:48,516 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: happening that it's crazy Like 849 00:38:49,732 --> 00:38:52,852 Gardiner: Didn't we just talk about Mario Kart Wii Loaded or whatever? 850 00:38:53,232 --> 00:38:55,062 Recom- Wii Compilation? 851 00:38:55,216 --> 00:38:55,846 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: yeah 852 00:38:56,162 --> 00:38:56,482 Gardiner: Yeah 853 00:38:59,716 --> 00:39:02,436 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I mean I think that's still a little ways out but like 854 00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:03,150 Gardiner: Yeah. 855 00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:06,470 we know if there's like a Halo Combat Evolved one? 856 00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:11,040 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I don't know why there would I don't know why any Let's see 857 00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:14,560 Let's find out 858 00:39:19,818 --> 00:39:22,828 Uh Halo Decompilation Project 859 00:39:25,098 --> 00:39:25,858 Gardiner: Oh, interesting 860 00:39:27,554 --> 00:39:31,964 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: This is uh Halo Combat Evolved specifically 861 00:39:33,132 --> 00:39:33,442 Gardiner: Wow 862 00:39:35,224 --> 00:39:38,534 James: why you need this when the new Halo remake just came out 863 00:39:39,746 --> 00:39:44,596 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah Why why why preserve history when you can rewrite it 864 00:39:45,198 --> 00:39:46,658 James: Did you see that it came out 865 00:39:47,238 --> 00:39:47,698 Gardiner: Yeah. 866 00:39:47,748 --> 00:39:48,018 James: week? 867 00:39:48,028 --> 00:39:48,478 Yeah 868 00:39:49,388 --> 00:39:54,508 Gardiner: Dude, I requested, uh, a, a review key and they did not send me one. 869 00:39:55,278 --> 00:39:55,758 James: What? 870 00:39:55,844 --> 00:39:56,544 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh w I'm not 871 00:39:56,578 --> 00:39:57,888 James: That, shocking 872 00:39:57,924 --> 00:40:00,914 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I am shocked that they didn't consider it 873 00:40:02,098 --> 00:40:07,128 Gardiner: I'm, uh, I, I ripped Doom: The Dark Ages to shreds, so I 874 00:40:11,038 --> 00:40:14,888 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude you're the reason id Software got l I I that ceasefire 875 00:40:15,566 --> 00:40:19,935 James: You, yeah, you destroyed all those poor developers' lives 876 00:40:20,474 --> 00:40:21,354 Gardiner: Yes, I did. 877 00:40:21,804 --> 00:40:22,674 It's all my fault. 878 00:40:25,042 --> 00:40:28,172 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh but yeah Halo Recon looks interesting 879 00:40:28,222 --> 00:40:30,402 Wait there's a whole website 880 00:40:33,154 --> 00:40:38,914 Yo that's pretty sick though they recomp Halo 5 though Cause that's 881 00:40:38,914 --> 00:40:40,934 not on PC surprisingly enough 882 00:40:41,626 --> 00:40:41,636 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 883 00:40:41,696 --> 00:40:42,036 Mm-hmm. 884 00:40:42,314 --> 00:40:45,454 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Halo And I actually kinda like Halo 5's multiplayer The 885 00:40:45,454 --> 00:40:51,244 single player was awful like outright the worst It still is the worst Halo game the 886 00:40:51,244 --> 00:40:54,564 single player wise but the multiplayer was actually pretty good for Halo 5 887 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:57,770 Gardiner: I wouldn't-- I haven't tried it. 888 00:40:57,930 --> 00:40:58,060 I don't know 889 00:40:59,906 --> 00:41:07,206 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But uh speaking of games on speaking of ha speaking of rings so 890 00:41:07,636 --> 00:41:12,906 yeah look at this So yeah Sony could destroy the 72 billion used games market 891 00:41:12,906 --> 00:41:17,186 according to analysts but PlayStation Network is actually down right now Let's 892 00:41:18,830 --> 00:41:19,710 James: Is it still down? 893 00:41:19,786 --> 00:41:19,916 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh 894 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,029 James: Oh, no, it's up. 895 00:41:21,049 --> 00:41:21,420 Okay 896 00:41:21,526 --> 00:41:21,846 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: now 897 00:41:23,052 --> 00:41:23,542 Gardiner: Wow 898 00:41:25,336 --> 00:41:26,576 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: but it was down 899 00:41:27,278 --> 00:41:27,627 James: Yeah. 900 00:41:29,107 --> 00:41:30,067 I can't remember how long it was. 901 00:41:30,067 --> 00:41:31,408 Like, might've been for half a day. 902 00:41:31,917 --> 00:41:32,298 Yeah 903 00:41:32,836 --> 00:41:36,176 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It might've been for half a day an interesting timing too 904 00:41:36,186 --> 00:41:40,336 given Marvel Tokon's open betas uh happening right now Oh speaking of 905 00:41:40,356 --> 00:41:45,316 which Tokon's beta I tried that on my Steam Machine yesterday before I 906 00:41:45,316 --> 00:41:51,626 left for out of town not work does not run has that stupid Sony anticheat uh 907 00:41:51,626 --> 00:41:56,616 module thingy where like it doesn't work so no don't know if that means the 908 00:41:56,626 --> 00:42:00,556 whole game isn't gonna work but I know the but I know the beta doesn't work 909 00:42:01,018 --> 00:42:01,028 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 910 00:42:01,276 --> 00:42:03,426 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: on Linux which is bullcrap cause I really 911 00:42:03,426 --> 00:42:04,726 wanted to play Marvel Tokon 912 00:42:06,568 --> 00:42:07,158 James: Interesting 913 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,310 Okay 914 00:42:11,508 --> 00:42:12,428 Gardiner: Yeah, I haven't tried it. 915 00:42:12,648 --> 00:42:12,798 I don't 916 00:42:13,762 --> 00:42:17,222 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Sony g oh my God Sony Sony Sony Sony 917 00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:21,720 Gardiner: This is just par for the course with Sony though, and this is why I 918 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:29,540 don't trust them and why a all digital Sony future is a literal nightmare, like 919 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,080 post-apocalypse for PlayStation users 920 00:42:33,358 --> 00:42:34,018 James: It's… 921 00:42:34,362 --> 00:42:34,502 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: pe 922 00:42:35,298 --> 00:42:35,938 James: Yeah 923 00:42:36,242 --> 00:42:40,312 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: are equating a alldigital Sony feature with an alldigital Like 924 00:42:40,372 --> 00:42:44,292 they're saying it like like some people are saying Oh if Sony's going all digital 925 00:42:44,292 --> 00:42:46,112 why don't I just go to PC anyways PC's a 926 00:42:46,314 --> 00:42:46,484 Gardiner: Yeah. 927 00:42:47,384 --> 00:42:47,664 Yeah 928 00:42:47,872 --> 00:42:50,482 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: someone's like Oh so you're go you're leaving alldigital 929 00:42:50,482 --> 00:42:54,772 platform for another alldigital platform Like no it is not the same thing 930 00:42:56,610 --> 00:42:58,380 James: Well, you don't have to leave it for Steam either. 931 00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:02,910 You can leave it for PC, and then you have options. 932 00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:07,880 The problem with… The, my biggest problem, and, and I think it would 933 00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:10,979 be a little hypocritical not to call this out of console gaming anyways. 934 00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:14,310 Like, yes, could you buy a PlayStation game somewhere else? 935 00:43:14,330 --> 00:43:19,380 Yes, but it is still going to be a little bit regulated by PlayStation 936 00:43:19,549 --> 00:43:21,090 through its fees and all that. 937 00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:24,129 It can never go too… Like, I guess same thing with Steam, but, like, 938 00:43:24,799 --> 00:43:28,789 it can't go too cheap or else the devs will just not make any money. 939 00:43:29,299 --> 00:43:33,149 So at the end of the day, y- like, you could at least buy 940 00:43:33,149 --> 00:43:37,610 the games from GameStop, Best Buy, wherever you wanted to. 941 00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:40,899 Sometimes they'd have sales and all that that they were allowed to do. 942 00:43:40,959 --> 00:43:45,239 But it still was all kind of regulated by PlayStation. 943 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,010 Now it's like you have no option except for buying it from PlayStation, and 944 00:43:50,010 --> 00:43:54,849 it's all… And their competition is literally PC and Xbox. 945 00:43:54,860 --> 00:44:00,059 Like, there is no other competition, even with other stores, I would say. 946 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,039 And this is kind of a little bit of a problem with the consoles is 947 00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,659 that it's, it's a little, uh… 948 00:44:06,999 --> 00:44:09,249 You just don't have any… Like, if they wanna charge you six- 949 00:44:09,259 --> 00:44:10,279 Like, it's like a Nintendo issue. 950 00:44:10,289 --> 00:44:13,920 If they wanna charge you $60 for the rest of that game's life, they can. 951 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,839 There's no deals. 952 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,399 There's no… Uh, if they w- if… And they're doing price fixing too now, 953 00:44:18,529 --> 00:44:22,449 like, or price like, um, dynamic pricing they're practicing more and more. 954 00:44:22,450 --> 00:44:27,319 So if your account's flagged as being rich, you're screwed. 955 00:44:27,529 --> 00:44:33,179 If you're not really rich, you just buy games at full price sometimes, 956 00:44:34,156 --> 00:44:34,516 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 957 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,999 James: you as, "No, he's gonna spend more because of that." So I don't know. 958 00:44:39,009 --> 00:44:42,219 I do not like dynamic pricing for sure 959 00:44:44,578 --> 00:44:48,228 Gardiner: No, I mean, dynamic pricing is the same old scam 960 00:44:48,988 --> 00:44:50,318 with, with new packaging. 961 00:44:50,468 --> 00:44:57,068 It's, it is literally, uh, algorithmic price fixing, and it's, it should be 962 00:44:58,966 --> 00:44:59,756 James: Oh, 100%. 963 00:44:59,756 --> 00:45:02,656 We need, definitely need to do, uh, dynamic pricing to be 964 00:45:02,992 --> 00:45:03,382 Gardiner: Like, 965 00:45:03,766 --> 00:45:04,966 James: illegal 'cause it's 966 00:45:05,942 --> 00:45:07,902 Gardiner: don't, do not even kid yourself. 967 00:45:07,902 --> 00:45:13,032 Like, if you walk into a store and that store has, uh, uh, E 968 00:45:13,042 --> 00:45:15,132 Ink labels, do not shop there. 969 00:45:15,232 --> 00:45:18,052 Like, that is price fixing just the same. 970 00:45:18,472 --> 00:45:22,392 Um, is… Dude, it's crazy. 971 00:45:23,090 --> 00:45:23,110 James: Y- 972 00:45:23,322 --> 00:45:25,612 Gardiner: will not shop at a store that has E Ink labels 973 00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:29,650 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: till someone hacks that ink display to give you free products 974 00:45:30,376 --> 00:45:34,846 Gardiner: Well, the pro- the, but the E Ink actually… Like, whatever the label 975 00:45:34,846 --> 00:45:39,446 says on the shelf doesn't actually affect what the UPC says, like, in their system. 976 00:45:39,466 --> 00:45:43,136 So it-- But, like, when they update… See, the pro- Here's the thing. 977 00:45:43,466 --> 00:45:45,216 I used to work at Home Depot, right? 978 00:45:45,246 --> 00:45:47,896 I was, I was a, uh, merchandiser, right? 979 00:45:48,086 --> 00:45:51,576 So my job was to, like, lay out the shelves according to the way 980 00:45:51,576 --> 00:45:53,446 the, the brand wanted, right? 981 00:45:53,446 --> 00:45:58,816 Because most of the time, the brands would pay money to have their products 982 00:45:58,826 --> 00:46:02,806 sit on a shelf at eye level with, like, the average American height. 983 00:46:02,826 --> 00:46:03,786 Like, I'm not even kidding. 984 00:46:03,796 --> 00:46:07,866 And so my job was to set that shit up the way they wanted, and I would print 985 00:46:07,876 --> 00:46:11,456 out labels, like just paper labels, and I'd stick them on the shelf. 986 00:46:11,916 --> 00:46:14,826 Uh, but there was also this other team that would come in at like 987 00:46:14,826 --> 00:46:18,906 4:00 in the morning and work until maybe 11:00, and their whole job 988 00:46:18,906 --> 00:46:21,396 was just to go around things. 989 00:46:22,116 --> 00:46:29,156 it's like that Like, that's not a job anymore because they are just rid 990 00:46:29,156 --> 00:46:32,246 of that to put in, uh, E Ink labels. 991 00:46:33,126 --> 00:46:36,746 And so, you know, if you like protecting jobs, if you like people having jobs, 992 00:46:37,206 --> 00:46:42,506 if you like not getting screwed the fuck over by these assholes, uh, j- 993 00:46:42,906 --> 00:46:44,626 don't shop at stores with E Ink labels. 994 00:46:44,796 --> 00:46:45,066 That's 995 00:46:45,866 --> 00:46:48,176 James: I think that's gonna be really hard because I think it's going more 996 00:46:48,186 --> 00:46:51,116 and more, especially for hardware stuff that's really high-priced. 997 00:46:51,196 --> 00:46:54,476 Um, Best Buy, Walmart. 998 00:46:55,436 --> 00:46:59,576 Um, I haven't seen it at some of the grocery stores yet, but most of the 999 00:46:59,576 --> 00:47:03,685 stores I've gone to that are electronic based i- in Utah and some other, uh, 1000 00:47:03,695 --> 00:47:06,645 states near me are pretty much that. 1001 00:47:06,816 --> 00:47:07,006 They're E Ink 1002 00:47:07,354 --> 00:47:07,604 Gardiner: Yeah. 1003 00:47:08,448 --> 00:47:08,558 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: We'd 1004 00:47:08,574 --> 00:47:09,364 Gardiner: I won't even… 1005 00:47:09,638 --> 00:47:09,998 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: shop 1006 00:47:10,394 --> 00:47:14,524 Gardiner: Yeah, I don't even shop, I, I don't even buy gas at stores that 1007 00:47:14,534 --> 00:47:16,974 have, like, electronic displays outside. 1008 00:47:17,324 --> 00:47:21,314 Like, I, I will only shop, I will only buy gas at stores that still 1009 00:47:21,314 --> 00:47:25,074 have, like, the manually, like, go out and they have to change the thing 1010 00:47:25,364 --> 00:47:27,774 with a little sticker, uh, pole. 1011 00:47:28,724 --> 00:47:29,724 Like, I, I, 1012 00:47:30,016 --> 00:47:30,556 James: we we can't 1013 00:47:30,606 --> 00:47:32,336 we can't… I couldn't do that in Utah. 1014 00:47:32,376 --> 00:47:33,626 They're all electronic. 1015 00:47:33,626 --> 00:47:34,596 I don't know if I've seen… 1016 00:47:34,596 --> 00:47:35,296 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: my town either 1017 00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:38,355 James: I don't… I'd have to drive, like, two hours probably 1018 00:47:39,042 --> 00:47:39,472 Gardiner: Really? 1019 00:47:39,482 --> 00:47:43,832 There's, there's one gas station up here, and, like, I- the only time 1020 00:47:43,832 --> 00:47:47,562 I will actually go to o- one of those is if I'm, like, out somewhere 1021 00:47:47,592 --> 00:47:49,702 and I need gas, like, immediately. 1022 00:47:50,712 --> 00:47:52,152 James: I sh- I shop at Costco. 1023 00:47:52,312 --> 00:47:54,172 I, I, I feel comfortable doing Costco. 1024 00:47:54,172 --> 00:47:55,482 That's where I get my gas 1025 00:47:55,584 --> 00:47:59,914 Gardiner: Well, Costco is actually good about that kind of stuff. 1026 00:48:00,194 --> 00:48:00,594 Like, 1027 00:48:01,550 --> 00:48:02,100 James: They 1028 00:48:02,218 --> 00:48:02,758 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: gas 1029 00:48:04,346 --> 00:48:04,466 Gardiner: You 1030 00:48:04,526 --> 00:48:06,736 James: The high tech just walks around. 1031 00:48:08,426 --> 00:48:11,786 Gardiner: That's what I wish I could do. 1032 00:48:11,786 --> 00:48:11,796 Ugh 1033 00:48:12,214 --> 00:48:15,434 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: pays for gas so I don't care if they get charged They don't 1034 00:48:15,464 --> 00:48:16,884 I don't care if they get overcharged 1035 00:48:17,548 --> 00:48:18,708 Gardiner: Uh, that's okay. 1036 00:48:19,016 --> 00:48:20,476 James: You go to the most expensive place. 1037 00:48:20,476 --> 00:48:21,246 You're going to the… Dude. 1038 00:48:22,466 --> 00:48:25,476 You go to the f- the Freedom gas pumps or whatever they're called. 1039 00:48:26,606 --> 00:48:26,766 Gardiner: Oh 1040 00:48:26,896 --> 00:48:26,966 James: Did you 1041 00:48:26,986 --> 00:48:27,306 Gardiner: God 1042 00:48:28,522 --> 00:48:32,962 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The best place to pump gas if you have one nearby are the Bucees 1043 00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:35,418 James: Oh, we just got one. 1044 00:48:35,418 --> 00:48:35,448 Gardiner: youth 1045 00:48:36,128 --> 00:48:37,938 James: We just got one here in Utah. 1046 00:48:38,378 --> 00:48:40,378 Yeah, it's just op- well, I th- 1047 00:48:40,568 --> 00:48:43,388 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: state but there's one like way out of my town I'd 1048 00:48:43,388 --> 00:48:46,208 have to go like three hours to go to the Bucee's in my state 1049 00:48:47,438 --> 00:48:51,388 James: The one that's near me is like 30 minutes, but I think they're 1050 00:48:51,388 --> 00:48:54,888 gonna start putting a couple more in because we're on the West Coast, we're 1051 00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,337 very big gas guzzlers over here, so. 1052 00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:01,698 But I've heard good things about their nuggets, so 1053 00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:07,170 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: good stuff Bucee's generally has good food Like it like 1054 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:11,750 obviously it's not as good like as like a real real barbecue place but it's 1055 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:16,000 like miles above any other like gas 1056 00:49:16,344 --> 00:49:17,004 James: Gas station? 1057 00:49:17,573 --> 00:49:20,584 Uh, Maverick is, uh, I, I think Utah-based. 1058 00:49:20,584 --> 00:49:22,783 Maverick is really good too, or at least they were. 1059 00:49:22,823 --> 00:49:24,004 They're, I think they still are though 1060 00:49:25,034 --> 00:49:29,024 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like I would argue Bucee's almost rivals like the Japanese 1061 00:49:29,034 --> 00:49:32,444 convenience store levels of like food That's how good their stuff is 1062 00:49:33,472 --> 00:49:34,492 James: Okay, there you go. 1063 00:49:34,892 --> 00:49:38,842 You heard it here, HiTech said it's better than Korean fried chicken. 1064 00:49:38,892 --> 00:49:41,502 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa 1065 00:49:41,502 --> 00:49:44,132 whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa 1066 00:49:45,282 --> 00:49:45,932 Gardiner: That's awesome 1067 00:49:46,062 --> 00:49:46,832 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that I I 1068 00:49:46,948 --> 00:49:47,127 James: I 1069 00:49:47,272 --> 00:49:48,192 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: these re I resent 1070 00:49:48,348 --> 00:49:48,457 James: know. 1071 00:49:50,558 --> 00:49:55,317 So if, if what's-his-face from N- uh, Nvidia, the CEO, goes to a Buc-ee's, do 1072 00:49:55,317 --> 00:50:00,227 you think it would really increase the, the, their stock if they have stock? 1073 00:50:00,227 --> 00:50:01,247 I don't know if they do or not. 1074 00:50:01,644 --> 00:50:05,824 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Considering how parasocial the financial industry 1075 00:50:05,824 --> 00:50:08,474 is with uh Adam Jensen Huang 1076 00:50:11,098 --> 00:50:11,238 James: Yeah. 1077 00:50:14,488 --> 00:50:16,798 I just, yeah, can't, we can't talk about chicken. 1078 00:50:16,868 --> 00:50:19,518 I mean, I brought it, I brought up the chicken, Korean fried chicken. 1079 00:50:19,518 --> 00:50:23,578 We can't bring it, can't bring that up without bringing up, uh, Juan, man 1080 00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:28,950 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah But hey could be wor it could be worse 1081 00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:33,590 could be you asking making products without permission from Valve 1082 00:50:36,292 --> 00:50:36,312 S 1083 00:50:36,442 --> 00:50:36,832 Gardiner: Yeah 1084 00:50:36,842 --> 00:50:38,202 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: someone bro someone resurrected 1085 00:50:38,324 --> 00:50:38,334 James: Oh. 1086 00:50:38,334 --> 00:50:38,384 Steam Deck. 1087 00:50:38,392 --> 00:50:39,422 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: dbrand Cube 1088 00:50:41,590 --> 00:50:42,680 James: Oh, dbrand 1089 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:47,110 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: model You can 3D print this and put this 1090 00:50:47,980 --> 00:50:51,480 right there You can 3D print one 1091 00:50:54,478 --> 00:50:56,328 James: So did they make it available? 1092 00:50:56,328 --> 00:50:58,278 Uh, um, sorry, I'm trying to understand. 1093 00:50:58,298 --> 00:51:01,878 Uh, did they make it available or is this someone else made it? 1094 00:51:02,996 --> 00:51:07,766 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh so someone else made it Someone else like did the modeling 1095 00:51:07,766 --> 00:51:12,906 themselves They didn't have access to the cube They just recreated it based on 1096 00:51:12,906 --> 00:51:15,016 like pictures and stuff and dimensions 1097 00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:15,870 James: Mm-hmm. 1098 00:51:18,058 --> 00:51:20,818 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And this is them with their Steam Machine Wow They have a 1099 00:51:20,828 --> 00:51:24,078 custom they have a totally custom one 1100 00:51:24,998 --> 00:51:27,148 James: That's sick. 1101 00:51:27,298 --> 00:51:27,818 I… 1102 00:51:27,882 --> 00:51:29,272 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's 3D printed for 1103 00:51:29,518 --> 00:51:30,068 James: Yeah. 1104 00:51:30,198 --> 00:51:32,908 Oh, yeah, and there's ways to finish it so it doesn't feel as 1105 00:51:32,918 --> 00:51:37,048 3D-printed, but I… Man, I'm gonna m- I wanna make one of these. 1106 00:51:37,048 --> 00:51:42,138 I just, I have to get… I h- I wanna get a new 3D printer that can handle 1107 00:51:42,138 --> 00:51:46,277 multiple colors so I don't have to swap things out, and so let's see. 1108 00:51:46,278 --> 00:51:47,978 Steam Frame 3D printer 1109 00:51:49,164 --> 00:51:50,884 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They used Sunlu 1110 00:51:51,317 --> 00:51:51,828 James: Ooh. 1111 00:51:51,928 --> 00:51:54,038 Oh, they even have the filament and everything that they used? 1112 00:51:54,048 --> 00:51:54,798 That's awesome 1113 00:51:55,126 --> 00:51:55,736 Gardiner: That's cool 1114 00:51:55,846 --> 00:51:59,836 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: they have filaments they have a parts list You need a 1115 00:51:59,860 --> 00:52:00,940 James: Actually have some of that too. 1116 00:52:01,316 --> 00:52:03,596 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: of course Th that's 1117 00:52:03,610 --> 00:52:04,190 James: don't. 1118 00:52:04,820 --> 00:52:05,230 You don't. 1119 00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:06,810 You could have just a box, right? 1120 00:52:06,946 --> 00:52:09,486 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It says right there one t one 1121 00:52:09,582 --> 00:52:09,902 James: Is 1122 00:52:09,956 --> 00:52:11,936 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Machine You need a Steam Machine obviously 1123 00:52:12,598 --> 00:52:15,278 James: No, you could make a box and pretend like you could have it so 1124 00:52:15,278 --> 00:52:18,308 it's front-facing so that like it looks like you have a Steam machine. 1125 00:52:18,428 --> 00:52:20,148 So you can brag, but you don't really have one 1126 00:52:20,162 --> 00:52:24,262 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: See so there's also these You also need flathead screws 1127 00:52:24,722 --> 00:52:32,422 uh a lot of heat inserts magnets yada yada yada and there's some instructions 1128 00:52:32,848 --> 00:52:33,738 James: I mean, it's a process 1129 00:52:34,892 --> 00:52:38,182 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Assembly's required It's not it's not like you're gonna print 1130 00:52:38,182 --> 00:52:40,062 this out and it comes out just like this 1131 00:52:40,398 --> 00:52:45,218 James: So if I make my own print, not use theirs and sell it, you 1132 00:52:45,228 --> 00:52:46,478 think I'd get in trouble by Valve? 1133 00:52:50,574 --> 00:52:51,884 Do, do you think I'm big enough? 1134 00:52:51,924 --> 00:52:52,824 Do you think I'm big enough? 1135 00:52:53,126 --> 00:52:56,746 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: E I think Valve will treat Etsy a little 1136 00:52:56,756 --> 00:52:58,546 differently compared to dbrand 1137 00:52:59,054 --> 00:52:59,494 James: Yeah. 1138 00:52:59,674 --> 00:53:03,274 I, well, on Etsy I think there are a lot of Valve stuff. 1139 00:53:03,304 --> 00:53:06,894 It's just, yeah, dbrand went way too far 1140 00:53:08,384 --> 00:53:11,854 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like Deep Bread made a whole video which is crazy to me 1141 00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:13,360 James: Yeah. 1142 00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:15,910 Whole video 1143 00:53:15,932 --> 00:53:19,022 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: thought like I thought they had permission I 1144 00:53:19,236 --> 00:53:19,645 James: I thought 1145 00:53:19,662 --> 00:53:20,322 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: had permission 1146 00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:24,110 Gardiner: I would've put money on that they had h- had permission based on that 1147 00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:27,280 thing 'cause it, it, yeah, it's wild 1148 00:53:27,348 --> 00:53:29,728 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: good thing it's a good thing you're not a betting man Gardner 1149 00:53:30,134 --> 00:53:30,734 Gardiner: I know. 1150 00:53:30,774 --> 00:53:31,344 I'm not. 1151 00:53:32,794 --> 00:53:33,424 Not at all. 1152 00:53:34,264 --> 00:53:35,864 That's why I don't have a 401. 1153 00:53:37,790 --> 00:53:42,120 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh but you know who's not losing a bet dbrand cause they 1154 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,730 made skins for your Steam Machine 1155 00:53:48,066 --> 00:53:50,106 These are some pretty nice skins by the way I should mention 1156 00:53:50,692 --> 00:53:51,102 Gardiner: Hmm. 1157 00:53:51,442 --> 00:53:51,982 Oh, yeah 1158 00:53:52,346 --> 00:53:55,706 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And unlike unlike the s unlike the unlike 1159 00:53:55,706 --> 00:53:58,156 the cube these are perfectly legal 1160 00:54:00,462 --> 00:54:02,612 James: I, I, I, I want a couple of them. 1161 00:54:03,992 --> 00:54:07,332 But I, I contacted dbrand 'cause I have a contact and they haven't gotten back 1162 00:54:07,332 --> 00:54:09,452 to me yet this week, and so hopefully 1163 00:54:09,846 --> 00:54:12,606 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh they just sent oh they just sent me these like before I left 1164 00:54:12,665 --> 00:54:14,286 James: Yeah, don't talk, don't talk to me about it. 1165 00:54:16,816 --> 00:54:17,665 Making me jealous 1166 00:54:18,750 --> 00:54:20,940 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you can get this It looks like a it looks 1167 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:24,210 like a little old computer Looks 1168 00:54:24,366 --> 00:54:24,826 James: I know. 1169 00:54:25,236 --> 00:54:26,456 It looks pretty sick actually 1170 00:54:27,020 --> 00:54:28,360 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You can touch grass 1171 00:54:30,606 --> 00:54:32,676 James: Is it textured or is it just like a skin? 1172 00:54:33,642 --> 00:54:35,202 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Man I don't know I haven't I haven't opened 1173 00:54:35,202 --> 00:54:36,932 it up yet I left for town 1174 00:54:39,182 --> 00:54:40,922 I haven't opened my package yet dbrand 1175 00:54:41,068 --> 00:54:43,978 James: I think honestly I might run The Fragile One 1176 00:54:45,290 --> 00:54:46,210 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Ooh you can 1177 00:54:46,326 --> 00:54:46,946 James: I like that 1178 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:47,930 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: box 1179 00:54:49,174 --> 00:54:51,294 James: I'm not liking the solid colors. 1180 00:54:51,984 --> 00:54:52,124 But yeah 1181 00:54:52,322 --> 00:54:54,042 Gardiner: No, I'm, uh, I don't either. 1182 00:54:54,642 --> 00:54:56,312 That one looks like a… Oh, I was gonna say that one looked like a 1183 00:54:56,312 --> 00:54:58,002 basketball, but that one really does. 1184 00:54:59,892 --> 00:55:01,992 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The Or you can get this flat Earth one 1185 00:55:04,206 --> 00:55:05,266 James: Fl-flat Earth 1186 00:55:05,352 --> 00:55:06,472 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Earthers out there 1187 00:55:08,026 --> 00:55:11,426 Gardiner: Dude, I suck at putting stickers on things. 1188 00:55:11,756 --> 00:55:15,436 So, like, I'm just looking at, like, these textured ones like the Earth or whatever, 1189 00:55:15,726 --> 00:55:20,116 where Antarctica is like, uh, kind of intruding on the, on the power button, 1190 00:55:20,146 --> 00:55:23,746 and I'm like, "That would not go on s- on the correct orientation, would it?" 1191 00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:28,278 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I have I have gotten a little better with that since 1192 00:55:28,308 --> 00:55:29,928 dbrand started sending skins out 1193 00:55:30,414 --> 00:55:31,214 James: Yeah, same 1194 00:55:31,298 --> 00:55:33,308 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: cause I used to be horrible with like 1195 00:55:33,718 --> 00:55:35,078 screen protectors and stuff 1196 00:55:36,846 --> 00:55:40,356 James: The dice one would be kind of fun when, when your Steam Machine dies, 1197 00:55:40,616 --> 00:55:42,226 getting the dice so you can just roll it 1198 00:55:43,626 --> 00:55:49,366 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude See there's also the XRay ones Those are generally pretty cool 1199 00:55:50,062 --> 00:55:51,252 James: The X-ray ones are pretty cool. 1200 00:55:51,882 --> 00:55:52,612 That's pretty cool too 1201 00:55:52,646 --> 00:55:55,236 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: think these are the Linus uh collab ones 1202 00:55:57,984 --> 00:56:00,194 Is my screen flashing What's what's going on here 1203 00:56:01,348 --> 00:56:02,038 Gardiner: I'm not seeing clashing 1204 00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:05,370 James: It's, it, it's like popping up and down. 1205 00:56:05,370 --> 00:56:07,050 It, uh, I don't know if you should worry about it 1206 00:56:08,372 --> 00:56:09,822 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh whatever Uh 1207 00:56:12,298 --> 00:56:19,238 Ooh SpiderMan inspired Not bad And then you have the I think 1208 00:56:19,238 --> 00:56:22,258 this is the MKBHD uh collab one 1209 00:56:22,884 --> 00:56:23,304 Gardiner: Hmm 1210 00:56:23,308 --> 00:56:26,958 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's got the icons on it The this looks a lot this looks very 1211 00:56:29,154 --> 00:56:31,874 It looks very nice I will say MKBHD does have some style 1212 00:56:34,412 --> 00:56:39,782 Glitch camo I don't know about that one chief Yo you can get th you can get 1213 00:56:39,782 --> 00:56:44,912 this matte black skin for your Steam Machine This is kind of hilarious though 1214 00:56:46,178 --> 00:56:48,598 James: Yeah, it, it doesn't look any different. 1215 00:56:49,312 --> 00:56:49,812 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it doesn't look any different 1216 00:56:51,298 --> 00:56:54,948 James: It's to protect it though, to make it, uh, you know, pristine 1217 00:56:56,610 --> 00:56:59,130 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes Yes 1218 00:57:00,782 --> 00:57:03,142 James: Do they have faceplates though that you can buy? 1219 00:57:03,462 --> 00:57:07,162 I haven't looked into Steam Machine stuff 'cause that… Yeah, I think 1220 00:57:07,162 --> 00:57:09,861 that's what I care about more than the sk- the skins are actually pretty 1221 00:57:09,862 --> 00:57:11,402 cool, but I want, I want faceplates. 1222 00:57:12,702 --> 00:57:13,952 That's what I wanna change the most 1223 00:57:14,516 --> 00:57:19,286 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: no But I I'll be sure to let dbrand know when 1224 00:57:19,286 --> 00:57:21,336 I make a video on the skins I got 1225 00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:29,298 Wow look at that You can turn your crappy scratched up uh MacBooks 1226 00:57:29,298 --> 00:57:32,798 into a not scratched up uh 1227 00:57:34,070 --> 00:57:34,510 James: mess. 1228 00:57:34,510 --> 00:57:36,400 It, it will help protect and stuff like that. 1229 00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:36,670 Like, 1230 00:57:36,674 --> 00:57:37,614 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It'll help protect 1231 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,030 James: yeah. 1232 00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:41,660 I, I'm a fan of s- the dbrand stu- dbrand stuff I've gotten before. 1233 00:57:41,820 --> 00:57:43,910 Like, my favorite thing is the Kill Switch though. 1234 00:57:43,959 --> 00:57:46,420 Like, that by far, I love that so much 1235 00:57:46,474 --> 00:57:47,804 Gardiner: switch is awesome 1236 00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:50,810 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: How do you attach these skins though? 1237 00:57:51,620 --> 00:57:51,850 I 1238 00:57:51,897 --> 00:57:53,658 James: have traveled so much with the Killswitch. 1239 00:57:54,558 --> 00:57:54,908 Yeah 1240 00:57:58,004 --> 00:58:00,124 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, look, it's wrapped the basketball skin around. 1241 00:58:00,774 --> 00:58:03,304 wonder if it has, like, a real basketball, like, texture 1242 00:58:05,242 --> 00:58:06,022 Gardiner: That would be cool. 1243 00:58:06,754 --> 00:58:07,454 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 1244 00:58:08,272 --> 00:58:10,712 Gardiner: doubt it though, just based on how that looks, I 1245 00:58:10,798 --> 00:58:14,348 James: It doesn't look like it has a very raised one if it does, but they do a 1246 00:58:14,348 --> 00:58:16,037 good job of making it look like it might. 1247 00:58:19,148 --> 00:58:22,628 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: We shall see, but, uh, I don't actually know what skins 1248 00:58:22,628 --> 00:58:23,848 I even got to be, truth be told. 1249 00:58:23,848 --> 00:58:24,838 I haven't opened it up yet. 1250 00:58:25,848 --> 00:58:31,148 But we'll worry about that later because we have more pressing news, Nintendo. 1251 00:58:32,558 --> 00:58:36,158 If you guys recall, you guys recall, Nintendo was being sued 1252 00:58:36,158 --> 00:58:41,538 for, uh, it's a class action lawsuit for, uh, tariff refunds and this 1253 00:58:41,538 --> 00:58:42,798 is Nintendo's response to it. 1254 00:58:43,638 --> 00:58:46,828 asked the court to dismiss it because they say Nintendo has no legal duty to 1255 00:58:46,828 --> 00:58:49,408 pass on US tariff refunds the consumer 1256 00:58:52,906 --> 00:58:53,186 Gardiner: Dude 1257 00:58:53,656 --> 00:58:56,806 James: It's, th- this is such a hard thing because technically they don't. 1258 00:58:57,206 --> 00:58:59,666 We voted for this. 1259 00:59:00,256 --> 00:59:04,166 I don't… Logistically it'd also be really, like it'd cost 1260 00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:07,096 a lot of money to figure out where to distribute it probably. 1261 00:59:07,146 --> 00:59:07,556 I don't know. 1262 00:59:07,576 --> 00:59:10,905 I'm making excuses for them, but at the end, uh 1263 00:59:13,870 --> 00:59:15,930 They could have done better PR with this. 1264 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,410 I think they could have just done better PR. 1265 00:59:18,244 --> 00:59:18,664 Gardiner: Yeah. 1266 00:59:18,834 --> 00:59:25,194 Well, first of all, a t- like Nintendo didn't pay any tariffs. 1267 00:59:25,194 --> 00:59:29,534 W- the people who bought Nintendo's shit while tariffs were in 1268 00:59:29,534 --> 00:59:30,984 place were the ones who paid it. 1269 00:59:31,754 --> 00:59:36,754 So just on like, just on the plain text of it, I feel like a tariff 1270 00:59:36,754 --> 00:59:40,144 refund should go to the people who actually paid the tariff and not the 1271 00:59:40,144 --> 00:59:43,414 company that didn't pay the tariff. 1272 00:59:43,624 --> 00:59:46,034 I, I don't know, just, just based on the plain text 1273 00:59:48,290 --> 00:59:48,960 Am I crazy? 1274 00:59:49,830 --> 00:59:50,250 nuts 1275 00:59:50,798 --> 00:59:51,397 James: It's 1276 00:59:51,458 --> 00:59:54,238 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, I mean, that, yeah, we, it's always us that pay the 1277 00:59:54,238 --> 00:59:56,188 tariff, so you're not wrong on that front. 1278 00:59:56,814 --> 00:59:57,243 James: So 1279 00:59:57,254 --> 01:00:00,904 they eat, they could eat the cost, so they, but they have to raise the price. 1280 01:00:00,904 --> 01:00:03,594 They know the tariff cost when they're importing and doing all that stuff. 1281 01:00:03,594 --> 01:00:06,663 So at the end of the day, like they could eat the cost. 1282 01:00:06,674 --> 01:00:07,203 They didn't. 1283 01:00:07,234 --> 01:00:09,064 They obviously upped the prices. 1284 01:00:09,424 --> 01:00:12,634 Um, it's pretty obvious, and it's passed on to us. 1285 01:00:13,163 --> 01:00:19,263 But at the end of the day, America, you guys voted for this. 1286 01:00:19,673 --> 01:00:21,574 So I also, 1287 01:00:22,044 --> 01:00:24,314 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that they can keep the prices high because 1288 01:00:24,314 --> 01:00:25,734 of the stupid Rampocalypse 1289 01:00:26,432 --> 01:00:26,702 Gardiner: Yeah. 1290 01:00:27,310 --> 01:00:27,890 James: Yeah, two 1291 01:00:28,012 --> 01:00:31,162 Gardiner: Trump lost the popular vote twice, so we didn't actually vote for it. 1292 01:00:31,592 --> 01:00:32,352 But yeah 1293 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,660 James: No, but people didn't go out and vote 'cause they didn't wanna 1294 01:00:34,669 --> 01:00:39,740 vote for a woman, so I'm not g- just to get a little political, uh, Biden 1295 01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:41,759 got so many more votes than Kamala. 1296 01:00:41,770 --> 01:00:42,949 Like, they just didn't wanna get out. 1297 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240 People weren't engaged, so at the end of the day, people voted 1298 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,730 for this by not voting, so… 1299 01:00:47,726 --> 01:00:48,056 Gardiner: Yeah. 1300 01:00:48,259 --> 01:00:49,410 James: This is what happens when you don't vote. 1301 01:00:49,456 --> 01:00:49,666 Gardiner: That's 1302 01:00:49,669 --> 01:00:50,939 James: This is what happens when you don't vote. 1303 01:00:52,479 --> 01:00:55,579 Uh, you get taxed, 'cause it's not affecting the rich people. 1304 01:00:55,930 --> 01:00:56,850 It's affecting you guys. 1305 01:00:56,850 --> 01:00:59,839 It's… Honestly, gamers are getting royally fucked right now. 1306 01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:03,269 Like, we are so fucked, it's crazy. 1307 01:01:03,699 --> 01:01:07,100 Um, and it's making it so, like, even doing YouTube and doing all this stuff 1308 01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:12,250 is making it harder because y- uh, people just aren't able to afford as much. 1309 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,729 Video, uh, people aren't as engaged as much, so yeah, like, yeah, it's 1310 01:01:15,729 --> 01:01:19,579 just a f- I mean, gaming in- I think the gaming industry all around 1311 01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:21,289 is in a recession a little bit. 1312 01:01:21,290 --> 01:01:26,020 Like, it's, it's definitely, um, a downsize, and you can tell. 1313 01:01:26,149 --> 01:01:26,809 And I don't think it's AI. 1314 01:01:26,839 --> 01:01:27,989 They'll, they might blame it on AI. 1315 01:01:28,029 --> 01:01:30,859 They might blame it on different things 'cause they want a, uh, an easier 1316 01:01:30,889 --> 01:01:32,669 out 'cause it looks better to them. 1317 01:01:32,989 --> 01:01:37,709 But no, it's, it's the economy's just retracting right now, 1318 01:01:37,709 --> 01:01:38,500 and it's not a good sign. 1319 01:01:38,510 --> 01:01:39,239 It's not a good sign 1320 01:01:39,338 --> 01:01:42,548 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: seen, I think we've, I think really we've seen the height how 1321 01:01:42,548 --> 01:01:48,408 big the gaming industry can be, h- how big it will ever be, uh, during COVID 1322 01:01:48,428 --> 01:01:51,708 because, you know, gaming companies didn't have to compete with, like, 1323 01:01:51,718 --> 01:01:55,308 people going outside and stuff, and now people, now, you know, now they have to. 1324 01:01:57,078 --> 01:01:58,168 They gotta compete with people. 1325 01:01:58,178 --> 01:01:59,698 Like, I'm sure a lot 1326 01:01:59,740 --> 01:01:59,770 James: I thi-- 1327 01:01:59,778 --> 01:02:02,758 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: people that were working from home were also kind of playing video 1328 01:02:02,758 --> 01:02:05,638 games on the side they were working. 1329 01:02:05,948 --> 01:02:08,368 But like, you can't, but like, thanks to the return to office 1330 01:02:08,368 --> 01:02:09,448 mandates, you can't do that 1331 01:02:09,518 --> 01:02:09,998 James: Yeah. 1332 01:02:09,998 --> 01:02:10,178 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: do that 1333 01:02:10,448 --> 01:02:12,328 James: Re- There, there's a couple of things. 1334 01:02:12,328 --> 01:02:18,978 So, like, think, like, they're also… It proves that their business, uh, their, 1335 01:02:19,778 --> 01:02:23,987 their business degrees kind of are garbage for some of these, uh, tech executives 1336 01:02:24,018 --> 01:02:28,508 or, like, these gaming executives 'cause they're just like… It's all laid out. 1337 01:02:28,928 --> 01:02:31,077 You know that there was gonna be a bump in sales. 1338 01:02:31,118 --> 01:02:32,208 They over-hired. 1339 01:02:32,208 --> 01:02:33,447 They did all this other stuff. 1340 01:02:34,067 --> 01:02:36,437 They over, uh, played themselves. 1341 01:02:36,498 --> 01:02:40,058 All of tech in- industry did for the most part, but gaming industry especially. 1342 01:02:40,168 --> 01:02:42,187 And they're like, "Well, we're gonna keep on trying to ride this. We're, 1343 01:02:42,248 --> 01:02:45,998 we're gonna improve it," and it did for, like, a, a year or two after even COVID 1344 01:02:46,027 --> 01:02:47,377 kinda ended, like, it started to go up. 1345 01:02:47,387 --> 01:02:50,988 But then a few things were starting to happen. 1346 01:02:50,988 --> 01:02:53,597 One of them, I think, like, return to, to office. 1347 01:02:53,957 --> 01:02:57,558 You've got, uh, people having to work more in order to survive. 1348 01:02:57,567 --> 01:03:00,568 Like, our cost of living has gone up drastically. 1349 01:03:00,568 --> 01:03:04,877 If you look at the, um, inflation rates and stuff like that, which had 1350 01:03:04,897 --> 01:03:10,907 to happen because of political reasons I'm not gonna get into, but yeah. 1351 01:03:10,917 --> 01:03:13,577 The… It's, it's a perfect storm of kinda stuff that's going on right now 1352 01:03:13,577 --> 01:03:14,828 and it, and it's just getting worse. 1353 01:03:14,828 --> 01:03:19,237 Like, the RAM is just icing on the whole cake to make this 1354 01:03:19,238 --> 01:03:20,777 whole thing so much worse. 1355 01:03:20,787 --> 01:03:21,277 So 1356 01:03:21,868 --> 01:03:22,138 Gardiner: Hmm. 1357 01:03:22,918 --> 01:03:26,157 James: yeah, it's… It, it sucks. 1358 01:03:26,187 --> 01:03:30,468 And the bare minimum what Nintendo could have done instead of being assholes is 1359 01:03:30,468 --> 01:03:32,727 that they could've been like, "Hey, it… 1360 01:03:33,988 --> 01:03:38,068 You know, we- we're not gonna do refunds, but here's, here's a free game or here's 1361 01:03:38,068 --> 01:03:39,487 something," they, they could have done. 1362 01:03:39,738 --> 01:03:46,777 I think they could have done something to be like, "Here you go," uh, bare minimum. 1363 01:03:46,777 --> 01:03:51,137 If they didn't wanna do the logistical nightmare of, uh, figuring out who… 1364 01:03:51,137 --> 01:03:53,698 And, and maybe, honestly, maybe it's not a logistical nightmare 1365 01:03:53,698 --> 01:03:55,907 because they sh- if you have good accounting software nowadays, like, 1366 01:03:55,907 --> 01:04:00,527 software and tech has made it so that all this stuff should be easy, but 1367 01:04:02,968 --> 01:04:03,258 I don't know. 1368 01:04:04,578 --> 01:04:10,008 I, I am curious if other companies are gonna follow suit with this and, 1369 01:04:10,008 --> 01:04:11,568 like, how much the tariffs really were. 1370 01:04:12,108 --> 01:04:14,558 Like, w- w- with Nintendo, what is it? 1371 01:04:14,698 --> 01:04:17,408 If you bought a Nintendo Switch, how much of a tariff increase was it? 1372 01:04:17,408 --> 01:04:18,458 Like 50 bucks? 1373 01:04:18,528 --> 01:04:21,508 That would be interesting, and maybe they did make a lot more money than 1374 01:04:21,508 --> 01:04:23,168 we know, and this is to cover it up. 1375 01:04:23,198 --> 01:04:23,618 I don't know. 1376 01:04:23,618 --> 01:04:29,427 But, uh, Costco said that they're gonna honor tar- like they, th- but they sued 1377 01:04:29,427 --> 01:04:33,897 the administration, so… Another reason I kinda sided with Costco on stuff is I 1378 01:04:33,917 --> 01:04:36,687 think a while ago they said if they get a refund, they're gonna pass it down. 1379 01:04:36,688 --> 01:04:39,908 Z- "Make sure to hold onto your receipts" is what they said, so 1380 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:40,420 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, 1381 01:04:40,552 --> 01:04:42,652 Gardiner: Dude, Costco is actually really cool. 1382 01:04:42,712 --> 01:04:43,882 I like, I like them. 1383 01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:44,720 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Do 1384 01:04:44,862 --> 01:04:48,472 Gardiner: Why why is Cost- I don't, I don't have a Co- Uh, like I think the 1385 01:04:48,472 --> 01:04:50,632 nearest Costco is Massachusetts, like 1386 01:04:51,288 --> 01:04:51,767 James: Oh my gosh. 1387 01:04:52,067 --> 01:04:55,388 I live near, technically I live near three. 1388 01:04:55,417 --> 01:04:58,488 I live near two that I can get to in four minutes, and then I have a third 1389 01:04:58,497 --> 01:05:00,577 that's probably like seven minutes. 1390 01:05:01,098 --> 01:05:01,917 Costco's are 1391 01:05:02,044 --> 01:05:06,074 Gardiner: in Scarborough, which is like t- an hour and 40 minutes from here 1392 01:05:06,186 --> 01:05:08,016 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: live pretty close to a Costco, yeah. 1393 01:05:08,076 --> 01:05:08,506 Um, 1394 01:05:09,234 --> 01:05:09,814 Gardiner: Holy shit 1395 01:05:10,030 --> 01:05:12,940 James: They're from Washington, so they spread like pretty 1396 01:05:12,970 --> 01:05:14,670 thick onto the West Coast. 1397 01:05:15,386 --> 01:05:15,396 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1398 01:05:15,436 --> 01:05:15,806 Mmhmm 1399 01:05:16,540 --> 01:05:20,570 James: and plus people in Utah have big families, and so I think it makes sense. 1400 01:05:20,570 --> 01:05:25,389 But no, they're also, um, their whole policy is a lot of the… 1401 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,479 Like, this current CEO I think rose up through the ranks. 1402 01:05:29,479 --> 01:05:32,940 He's not like some e- exec from day one. 1403 01:05:32,999 --> 01:05:36,029 So there's a lot of reasons I think CEO does well 1404 01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:39,460 Gardiner: are, are they like employee-owned or something? 1405 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:39,880 Like 1406 01:05:39,982 --> 01:05:41,872 James: They're something like that. 1407 01:05:41,872 --> 01:05:47,102 I don't think they're quite like what WinCo is, but Costco is, um, I- heck, 1408 01:05:47,332 --> 01:05:50,852 if you've been working at Costco, I, I think as, like, s- some of even the 1409 01:05:50,852 --> 01:05:55,341 lower-end employees, I th- for, like, 30 years, they're, they're millionaires now. 1410 01:05:55,451 --> 01:05:56,002 Like, their, 1411 01:05:56,462 --> 01:05:56,642 Gardiner: Hmm. 1412 01:05:57,121 --> 01:05:59,662 James: retirement, they're gonna go be… Like, they're, I don't know. 1413 01:05:59,671 --> 01:06:03,152 There's a whole, a lot of new stuff coming out about Costco and how they're 1414 01:06:03,162 --> 01:06:05,951 pretty friendly for, uh, workers. 1415 01:06:06,441 --> 01:06:12,331 But not to glaze them so hard, but I do like that, uh, there's a… I 1416 01:06:12,331 --> 01:06:13,611 could, I could glaze them for a while. 1417 01:06:15,138 --> 01:06:15,608 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, 1418 01:06:15,834 --> 01:06:16,254 Gardiner: Yeah 1419 01:06:17,088 --> 01:06:18,328 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I do have a question though. 1420 01:06:18,958 --> 01:06:23,218 Do you guys think gaming will ever be as big as it was during COVID ever again? 1421 01:06:23,908 --> 01:06:23,988 you think 1422 01:06:24,174 --> 01:06:24,514 James: Yeah. 1423 01:06:24,728 --> 01:06:25,348 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: those heights? 1424 01:06:26,144 --> 01:06:28,214 James: Yeah, I mean, w- what, what are you talking about? 1425 01:06:28,214 --> 01:06:30,974 Are you talking about per po- like population levels, or are you talking 1426 01:06:30,974 --> 01:06:34,624 about is this gonna make more money in 10 years than it did during COVID? 1427 01:06:34,893 --> 01:06:35,564 Of course it will. 1428 01:06:35,624 --> 01:06:40,454 Th- there will be some growth as society grows, potentially. 1429 01:06:41,084 --> 01:06:43,873 But I, I, I think there will be. 1430 01:06:43,924 --> 01:06:48,243 I just don't know if it's gonna be what… Like, people are so used to 1431 01:06:48,244 --> 01:06:51,943 like, "Oh, well, we got a 20% increase." Well, that's not a natural increase. 1432 01:06:51,953 --> 01:06:57,733 Like, the… You, you have expon- like it's not an exponential all the time. 1433 01:06:57,753 --> 01:07:00,733 You have gradual increases typically is what you should plan for. 1434 01:07:01,433 --> 01:07:01,793 But 1435 01:07:02,252 --> 01:07:02,642 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right. 1436 01:07:03,784 --> 01:07:04,134 James: Yeah 1437 01:07:05,914 --> 01:07:09,964 Gardiner: Yeah, I mean, I think gaming was like huge because everyone was like 1438 01:07:09,964 --> 01:07:12,424 just stuck at home during the pandemic. 1439 01:07:12,424 --> 01:07:18,984 So in terms of like number of people playing, I don't know necessarily, but 1440 01:07:18,984 --> 01:07:25,074 like, like, I mean, with prices just going insane, if that trend continues, 1441 01:07:25,074 --> 01:07:30,694 then the gaming industry may, uh, make more money now than it did back then. 1442 01:07:30,944 --> 01:07:33,694 But also they're, they will eventually price people out, 1443 01:07:34,004 --> 01:07:36,534 um, of being able to game. 1444 01:07:36,724 --> 01:07:37,114 So 1445 01:07:37,538 --> 01:07:39,968 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And they'll be culturally irrelevant too, because 1446 01:07:40,026 --> 01:07:40,476 Gardiner: Yes. 1447 01:07:40,578 --> 01:07:42,458 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: the masses can't afford it, then… 1448 01:07:43,406 --> 01:07:43,746 Gardiner: Yeah 1449 01:07:43,988 --> 01:07:44,378 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 1450 01:07:44,788 --> 01:07:49,508 But, you know, so I don't have a good segue for this, but have you guys heard 1451 01:07:49,518 --> 01:07:51,628 about the World of Warcraft situation? 1452 01:07:52,822 --> 01:07:53,412 Gardiner: No 1453 01:07:54,274 --> 01:07:58,974 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So basically, Blizzard, uh, basically a game master, 1454 01:07:58,984 --> 01:08:03,994 a GM, a moderator, a globe moderator, I think, uh, either or, instantly 1455 01:08:03,994 --> 01:08:07,614 killed a dungeon boss for a friend, not realizing that it was recorded. 1456 01:08:08,324 --> 01:08:11,464 And then Blizzard said they were investigating it, and then they actually 1457 01:08:11,474 --> 01:08:13,724 ended up firing this developer in question 1458 01:08:14,668 --> 01:08:15,078 Gardiner: Hmm. 1459 01:08:16,044 --> 01:08:18,214 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And all the players that benefited from them 1460 01:08:18,214 --> 01:08:19,584 killing that instant kill bot. 1461 01:08:21,394 --> 01:08:25,694 So as a g- as a moderator, they have certain abilities. 1462 01:08:25,724 --> 01:08:30,474 One of them the ability to instantly kill, like, a raid monster or a dungeon 1463 01:08:30,474 --> 01:08:31,584 boss or something like that, right? 1464 01:08:32,186 --> 01:08:32,526 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1465 01:08:32,944 --> 01:08:34,154 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: They did that for a friend 1466 01:08:36,926 --> 01:08:37,636 Gardiner: Interesting 1467 01:08:38,368 --> 01:08:38,938 James: I 1468 01:08:41,087 --> 01:08:41,638 I don't know. 1469 01:08:41,837 --> 01:08:47,647 I, I just, uh, one part of me is it's stupid to get fired over 1470 01:08:47,647 --> 01:08:51,187 something like that, so like I don't know if I would've fired him. 1471 01:08:51,287 --> 01:08:55,388 Maybe, you know, a little bit of a reprimand. 1472 01:08:55,407 --> 01:09:01,117 But on the other side, why are you also doing this for a friend? 1473 01:09:01,117 --> 01:09:02,577 Why, why, why don't you just play the game? 1474 01:09:03,097 --> 01:09:03,507 I don't know. 1475 01:09:03,548 --> 01:09:08,967 It's a game, so this seems stupid b- on both sides for me. 1476 01:09:09,817 --> 01:09:12,767 Both why would you risk your job, but also why would you fire someone? 1477 01:09:13,137 --> 01:09:13,377 But 1478 01:09:14,050 --> 01:09:17,980 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So this was a Mythic Plus dungeon, by the way, 1479 01:09:19,070 --> 01:09:26,060 which in this case, uh, they appear to be, like, high-level dungeons. 1480 01:09:26,090 --> 01:09:28,360 I don't, I don't actually… I don't play WoW, so I don't know for certain 1481 01:09:28,858 --> 01:09:28,868 Gardiner: Hmm 1482 01:09:29,421 --> 01:09:31,392 James: This is definitely way after my time of playing WoW. 1483 01:09:31,392 --> 01:09:33,551 This, but still, I don't know. 1484 01:09:35,251 --> 01:09:37,062 I'm sure it's really difficult, but 1485 01:09:37,664 --> 01:09:37,984 Gardiner: Yeah 1486 01:09:38,412 --> 01:09:41,262 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: so basically it boils down to some guy asked his GM 1487 01:09:41,272 --> 01:09:44,472 friend to kill this monster because it has 20 million health, bro 1488 01:09:46,956 --> 01:09:47,636 And then they did it 1489 01:09:52,734 --> 01:09:56,344 And I mean, there's very substantial evidence that 1490 01:09:56,344 --> 01:09:58,014 yes, they did it for a friend 1491 01:09:59,114 --> 01:09:59,644 James: Mm-hmm. 1492 01:10:00,162 --> 01:10:04,482 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It wasn't an isolated incident, in many cases there's w- 1493 01:10:04,522 --> 01:10:07,812 there's worries that other GMs have been assisting their friends with these sorts 1494 01:10:07,812 --> 01:10:10,962 of secret kills, secret too, I should add. 1495 01:10:11,032 --> 01:10:14,632 The only reason this became viral is because a Redditor posted a combat log 1496 01:10:15,362 --> 01:10:19,862 and witnessed it, and this could have been happening under everyone's noses 1497 01:10:20,742 --> 01:10:21,622 without them knowing 1498 01:10:24,268 --> 01:10:27,348 Which, I mean, I understand that it's stupid to fire, get fired over this, 1499 01:10:27,348 --> 01:10:28,918 but at the same time though, this does 1500 01:10:31,002 --> 01:10:32,192 Gardiner: So okay, genuine question 'cause I don't know jack 1501 01:10:34,142 --> 01:10:36,032 shit about anything about WoW. 1502 01:10:36,752 --> 01:10:43,952 Does this negatively affect other players or give the player who got 1503 01:10:43,952 --> 01:10:47,992 the one shot, does it affect him in a good way more than anyone else? 1504 01:10:48,510 --> 01:10:48,790 James: Yes. 1505 01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:49,030 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: him. 1506 01:10:49,660 --> 01:10:49,890 He 1507 01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:50,490 James: So he 1508 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:51,630 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: credit for the kill, 1509 01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:53,390 Gardiner: Oh, yeah. 1510 01:10:53,710 --> 01:10:55,290 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: as such he might be able to get loot 1511 01:10:56,396 --> 01:10:56,756 James: Well 1512 01:10:57,276 --> 01:10:58,706 so he's gonna get the better loot. 1513 01:10:58,716 --> 01:11:02,716 So yeah, when he kills it, I don't know if you get like a, a badge or anything. 1514 01:11:02,716 --> 01:11:06,555 I'm sure there probably is, but like, he's gonna get a lot of good mythical 1515 01:11:06,576 --> 01:11:08,516 probably, um, some mythic loot in there. 1516 01:11:09,125 --> 01:11:14,016 And so, uh, level up, um, uh, s- maybe some other bonuses. 1517 01:11:14,026 --> 01:11:16,326 There's some really, uh, good stuff that can come from it. 1518 01:11:16,596 --> 01:11:18,595 It could disrupt the market too if he wants to go sell it. 1519 01:11:19,325 --> 01:11:19,825 But 1520 01:11:20,452 --> 01:11:20,882 Gardiner: Hmm 1521 01:11:21,235 --> 01:11:26,426 James: at the same time, like, is it like a, a big thing? 1522 01:11:26,826 --> 01:11:29,916 Y- yeah, it's not gonna like… Like, other people aren't losing 1523 01:11:29,956 --> 01:11:34,055 out necessarily because of it, but it's not a good thing, you know. 1524 01:11:34,075 --> 01:11:35,316 Cheating is not a good thing 1525 01:11:35,322 --> 01:11:35,962 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'd be will- I'd be willing to bet if they fired 1526 01:11:38,172 --> 01:11:41,142 this person for it, that they've probably been doing it for a pretty long time. 1527 01:11:41,544 --> 01:11:41,954 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1528 01:11:42,294 --> 01:11:42,654 James: Oh yeah. 1529 01:11:42,762 --> 01:11:43,092 ' Hi-Tech Lo-Life: 'Cause it's 1530 01:11:43,314 --> 01:11:43,584 James: if 1531 01:11:43,682 --> 01:11:45,522 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: like it's one thing if you do it once and then, like, you 1532 01:11:45,522 --> 01:11:49,102 get warned or whatever, but, like, I'm sure they've probably been doing this 1533 01:11:50,312 --> 01:11:52,182 before, like, for a pretty long time. 1534 01:11:52,242 --> 01:11:54,092 Also, the players got punished too, by the way. 1535 01:11:54,152 --> 01:11:56,192 It's not just the guy got fired 1536 01:11:57,806 --> 01:12:00,476 James: Yeah, I'm… I mean, if the guy's gonna get fired, might 1537 01:12:00,476 --> 01:12:01,366 as well punish the players. 1538 01:12:01,366 --> 01:12:05,016 Like, uh, I, I would p- yeah, I don't know. 1539 01:12:05,715 --> 01:12:11,055 I think this is, uh, yeah, maybe it's, it's a, I mean, it's a kinda cheating, 1540 01:12:11,056 --> 01:12:14,245 so I don't care about them then. 1541 01:12:14,906 --> 01:12:15,326 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1542 01:12:15,406 --> 01:12:16,296 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: also leaderboards. 1543 01:12:16,356 --> 01:12:16,536 There are 1544 01:12:16,635 --> 01:12:16,745 James: ah 1545 01:12:17,326 --> 01:12:19,946 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: too, uh, so this could also affect that too. 1546 01:12:20,016 --> 01:12:22,526 It's like a, it's like a illegitimate speed run, if you will 1547 01:12:22,686 --> 01:12:23,425 James: Yeah 1548 01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:27,350 Gardiner: Yeah, I mean, like, it's one thing if, like, you're playing a single 1549 01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:32,600 player game and you, you, you know, use cheats or whatever, like, to whatever. 1550 01:12:33,050 --> 01:12:36,010 But if you're affecting other people or, like, screwing up the 1551 01:12:36,010 --> 01:12:38,940 economy, then yeah, that's, that's 1552 01:12:39,344 --> 01:12:41,193 James: It's not like it's PVP luckily. 1553 01:12:41,193 --> 01:12:43,983 Like, I'd be probably more upset, but still it's one of those 1554 01:12:43,994 --> 01:12:47,014 things where it shouldn't happen. 1555 01:12:47,054 --> 01:12:51,004 I do think there should be some punishments, but, uh, uh, I don't… 1556 01:12:53,284 --> 01:12:54,624 They weren't actually using hacks. 1557 01:12:54,624 --> 01:12:56,053 They were asking for a favor. 1558 01:12:56,983 --> 01:13:02,853 So it's more on the dev or the, the, it's more likely a GM. 1559 01:13:04,123 --> 01:13:04,583 Yeah. 1560 01:13:04,943 --> 01:13:06,833 Like a, a GM or dungeon master. 1561 01:13:07,254 --> 01:13:15,613 It's… Still, man, to get fired over this sucks, but don't abuse your power I guess. 1562 01:13:16,448 --> 01:13:16,728 Gardiner: Yeah 1563 01:13:17,666 --> 01:13:19,666 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And you were hired to keep the game, 1564 01:13:19,950 --> 01:13:20,880 James: Yeah 1565 01:13:21,056 --> 01:13:21,616 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: state. 1566 01:13:22,776 --> 01:13:24,266 to keep the game functioning as is. 1567 01:13:24,276 --> 01:13:28,736 Your, your job isn't to bosses for a few friends because, I mean, 1568 01:13:28,916 --> 01:13:30,986 this probably isn't the first time they did it, like I said 1569 01:13:31,482 --> 01:13:31,492 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1570 01:13:36,582 --> 01:13:36,602 James: Yeah. 1571 01:13:36,602 --> 01:13:36,872 I mean, context is, is key for all this. 1572 01:13:36,872 --> 01:13:40,322 If it's a one-off, slap 'em, say, "Hey, don't do that again," have them 1573 01:13:40,322 --> 01:13:44,472 go through a training or something, uh, if it, uh… But yeah, if it's 1574 01:13:44,482 --> 01:13:46,552 multiple, maybe don't even warn them. 1575 01:13:46,552 --> 01:13:47,262 Just be like, "Yeah, okay. 1576 01:13:47,312 --> 01:13:48,711 I mean, you keep on doing this, 1577 01:13:49,526 --> 01:13:49,816 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1578 01:13:50,011 --> 01:13:51,931 James: it's affecting… You're not doing your job right. 1579 01:13:51,931 --> 01:13:54,592 You're affecting things," then yeah, fire them of course. 1580 01:13:55,552 --> 01:13:56,851 They should have logs on that too. 1581 01:13:56,851 --> 01:13:59,491 That's kinda crazy that they don't have logs on that. 1582 01:13:59,982 --> 01:14:00,572 It was b- 1583 01:14:00,692 --> 01:14:00,822 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: do. 1584 01:14:00,862 --> 01:14:02,402 That's why, that's how it was exposed. 1585 01:14:02,432 --> 01:14:02,602 They 1586 01:14:02,924 --> 01:14:04,094 James: I thought it was a video. 1587 01:14:04,434 --> 01:14:05,034 Oh 1588 01:14:06,444 --> 01:14:06,814 Gardiner: Hmm. 1589 01:14:07,448 --> 01:14:09,048 James: I thought I was recorded 1590 01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:13,230 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I, I guess it was recorded too. 1591 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:13,840 Uh, it was 1592 01:14:13,844 --> 01:14:14,224 James: Okay 1593 01:14:14,270 --> 01:14:14,690 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: stream. 1594 01:14:16,750 --> 01:14:20,590 James: Yeah, it was on a Twitch stream, but I, I, I was like w- the logs should 1595 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,330 have some type of like, "Hey, this, why is this guy keep on killing these 1596 01:14:24,330 --> 01:14:25,670 mythic bosses?" And stuff like that. 1597 01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:28,070 Or one time, why, what's going on there? 1598 01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:30,050 But I don't know, it's World of Warcraft, so I don't know. 1599 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,719 Don't need government level of s- uh, you know, surveillance, I guess. 1600 01:14:36,110 --> 01:14:38,190 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Speaking of government surveillance though, 1601 01:14:38,926 --> 01:14:38,936 James: TheBrink 1602 01:14:39,260 --> 01:14:43,030 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: uh, this 21-year-old Steam quote developer was arrested. 1603 01:14:43,930 --> 01:14:47,930 He infected 8,000 PCs with malware through fake Steam games 1604 01:14:49,292 --> 01:14:49,662 Gardiner: Wow 1605 01:14:51,490 --> 01:14:56,430 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So for those who don't know, he's stolen $220,000 worth of 1606 01:14:56,460 --> 01:14:59,000 crypto through malware in your video games 1607 01:15:01,348 --> 01:15:01,688 Gardiner: Hmm. 1608 01:15:01,746 --> 01:15:04,526 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So he's been publishing games on Steam, probably 1609 01:15:04,526 --> 01:15:07,846 some crap that no one plays except for a few people for shits and giggles. 1610 01:15:08,176 --> 01:15:12,216 Probably like YouTubers that like play like really small obscure games 1611 01:15:12,524 --> 01:15:12,954 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1612 01:15:14,370 --> 01:15:15,970 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So yeah, he stole a bunch of money. 1613 01:15:17,012 --> 01:15:19,382 James: I wonder how he was able to get to the point to steal that. 1614 01:15:19,392 --> 01:15:20,272 That's interesting 1615 01:15:20,290 --> 01:15:20,750 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: oh yeah. 1616 01:15:20,850 --> 01:15:25,080 Th- oh yeah, this is the guy, s- this is the guy that stole money 1617 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,950 from someone getting cancer treatment 1618 01:15:28,140 --> 01:15:28,580 Gardiner: Hmm. 1619 01:15:28,736 --> 01:15:29,616 James: Oh my gosh 1620 01:15:30,786 --> 01:15:31,676 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It, it's this. 1621 01:15:31,676 --> 01:15:32,416 I remember this 1622 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:32,810 James: Oh. 1623 01:15:34,270 --> 01:15:34,540 Wow. 1624 01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:36,450 Gardiner: That is so sad 1625 01:15:36,898 --> 01:15:37,758 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That is sad. 1626 01:15:38,058 --> 01:15:41,218 Th- I mean, thankfully the internet came and, like, gave her some, 1627 01:15:41,258 --> 01:15:44,868 gave her money to, like, pay for that, but, like, the fact that it 1628 01:15:44,998 --> 01:15:46,498 was stolen to begin with is awful 1629 01:15:47,574 --> 01:15:47,884 Gardiner: Yeah 1630 01:15:53,050 --> 01:15:56,710 There has to be, like, some kind of heuristic that Valve can add for, 1631 01:15:56,710 --> 01:16:01,090 like, scanning apps that are uploaded. 1632 01:16:01,170 --> 01:16:04,290 I mean, 'cause, like, it seems like such a attack vector now. 1633 01:16:05,666 --> 01:16:05,846 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Putting 1634 01:16:05,950 --> 01:16:06,450 Gardiner: Steam. 1635 01:16:06,686 --> 01:16:07,256 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: is, it's 1636 01:16:07,410 --> 01:16:07,760 Gardiner: Yeah. 1637 01:16:07,876 --> 01:16:08,126 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: too 1638 01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:09,160 Gardiner: Yeah. 1639 01:16:10,668 --> 01:16:14,138 James: I definitely think they're, like, I, I just wish that they had more 1640 01:16:14,148 --> 01:16:19,327 billions to, you know, throw at this, but too bad they don't have enough money 1641 01:16:20,198 --> 01:16:22,528 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: well, they're g- they're gonna have to throw more billions at 1642 01:16:22,528 --> 01:16:25,478 this, otherwise this is like an attack on their product directly, and if 1643 01:16:25,582 --> 01:16:26,322 James: They're gonna get, 1644 01:16:26,668 --> 01:16:27,038 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: then 1645 01:16:27,372 --> 01:16:32,082 James: they're gonna get sued for… Valve's gonna get sued again 1646 01:16:33,708 --> 01:16:36,188 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: people are gonna lose faith in Steam as a whole. 1647 01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:37,180 James: Yeah 1648 01:16:37,248 --> 01:16:39,418 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like, if this ha- keeps happening, people are gonna 1649 01:16:39,418 --> 01:16:40,798 walk away from Steam as a whole 1650 01:16:42,248 --> 01:16:42,548 Gardiner: Yeah 1651 01:16:42,912 --> 01:16:44,172 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And Steam OS too, by the way. 1652 01:16:44,172 --> 01:16:48,262 This, this also damages their Linux, uh, initiative too. 1653 01:16:48,262 --> 01:16:48,842 So Valve 1654 01:16:48,842 --> 01:16:53,112 needs to invest m- much more in security, prevent this 1655 01:16:53,112 --> 01:16:54,512 stuff from ever happening again 1656 01:16:55,418 --> 01:16:55,688 Gardiner: Yeah. 1657 01:16:56,918 --> 01:17:02,378 Um, do we know if, like, uh, exactly what type of crypto wallets were hacked? 1658 01:17:02,378 --> 01:17:06,848 Were they, like, local wallets or were they, like, credentials for, 1659 01:17:07,038 --> 01:17:08,468 like, a cloud-based wallet or- 1660 01:17:10,868 --> 01:17:13,748 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, this article doesn't say 1661 01:17:14,176 --> 01:17:14,596 Gardiner: Okay 1662 01:17:14,878 --> 01:17:18,508 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I'm sure, I'm sure the, uh, legal documents say 1663 01:17:24,290 --> 01:17:28,490 It's US versus, uh, Wilkins, the hacker 1664 01:17:33,986 --> 01:17:35,916 Account login information, they 1665 01:17:35,976 --> 01:17:37,476 stole credentials. 1666 01:17:37,616 --> 01:17:43,826 So it seems like he was stealing, not local, but like account information too 1667 01:17:44,474 --> 01:17:44,824 Gardiner: Yeah. 1668 01:17:45,604 --> 01:17:46,664 makes the most sense. 1669 01:17:47,306 --> 01:17:47,776 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well, I mean… 1670 01:17:48,204 --> 01:17:52,304 Gardiner: most people don't use, like, local, local wallets anymore 1671 01:17:52,656 --> 01:17:54,646 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: No, I'm sure, I'm sure the malware could also 1672 01:17:54,646 --> 01:17:56,506 steal local wallets too, just in 1673 01:17:56,578 --> 01:17:57,228 Gardiner: Oh, yeah. 1674 01:17:57,658 --> 01:17:57,958 Yeah. 1675 01:17:57,968 --> 01:18:02,378 I was just thinking like how, how was there $220,000 worth of local 1676 01:18:02,378 --> 01:18:05,118 wallets on people's computers? 1677 01:18:05,148 --> 01:18:09,278 But for the most part, it's probably cloud-based. 1678 01:18:11,318 --> 01:18:11,668 Mm. 1679 01:18:13,266 --> 01:18:13,426 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, that's unfortunate. 1680 01:18:13,426 --> 01:18:15,336 Uh, but we c- hopefully we can leave this guy in the past. 1681 01:18:15,676 --> 01:18:16,566 He'll be in prison. 1682 01:18:17,184 --> 01:18:17,564 Gardiner: Mm. 1683 01:18:17,666 --> 01:18:19,976 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: know, I don't know what the maximum sentence is, 'cause they 1684 01:18:19,976 --> 01:18:21,606 only just arrested this guy, I believe 1685 01:18:24,386 --> 01:18:30,886 Yeah, so can leave Finn in the past while we look towards the future of gaming. 1686 01:18:32,306 --> 01:18:36,436 coming out soon, and for those who don't know, Gamescom is like 1687 01:18:36,436 --> 01:18:38,116 the equivalent of E3 but in Europe 1688 01:18:40,298 --> 01:18:44,658 And they sold out of all exhibition space for the first time in history 1689 01:18:46,414 --> 01:18:47,724 James: They can have AC though 1690 01:18:50,254 --> 01:18:51,064 Because, 1691 01:18:51,304 --> 01:18:56,064 and it, it is later this year, uh, later into August, but like, dude, 1692 01:18:57,193 --> 01:18:59,684 being in Europe without AC sucks 1693 01:19:00,682 --> 01:19:04,112 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I've heard about, yeah, I, I was in Italy not too long ago, and 1694 01:19:04,112 --> 01:19:05,622 they didn't have AC in any buildings. 1695 01:19:05,632 --> 01:19:09,992 It was miserable as an AC-loving American 1696 01:19:11,930 --> 01:19:12,490 Gardiner: Yeah. 1697 01:19:12,810 --> 01:19:17,140 Most places up here in Maine don't have AC, so I'm used to it. 1698 01:19:17,226 --> 01:19:17,906 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: house have AC? 1699 01:19:18,980 --> 01:19:22,730 Gardiner: I have a heat pump that, like, the living room, 1700 01:19:22,730 --> 01:19:24,400 and it kinda does my office too 1701 01:19:26,178 --> 01:19:26,518 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Damn. 1702 01:19:26,578 --> 01:19:31,408 All right, so the Gamescom starts in August, uh, next 1703 01:19:31,408 --> 01:19:34,198 month, about, uh, actually almost a whole month away actually. 1704 01:19:35,438 --> 01:19:36,848 So yeah, get ready for Gamescom. 1705 01:19:36,878 --> 01:19:40,688 We'll probably be covering that at some point in time, uh, next month. 1706 01:19:42,348 --> 01:19:42,948 Definitely. 1707 01:19:44,238 --> 01:19:48,528 But Gamescom is not the only convention upcoming too. 1708 01:19:49,398 --> 01:19:54,278 also the legendary Tokyo Game Show, which for those who don't know, 1709 01:19:54,368 --> 01:19:59,358 is also like E3 but in Japan, and it's like a month after Gamescom. 1710 01:20:00,098 --> 01:20:04,488 So it used to be we ha- it used to be, before E3 died, we used to have E3, 1711 01:20:04,498 --> 01:20:06,698 then Gamescom, then Tokyo Game Show. 1712 01:20:07,518 --> 01:20:12,078 Now it's Geoff Keighley's show, then, uh, Gamescom, then Tokyo Game Show 1713 01:20:17,578 --> 01:20:18,388 And so 1714 01:20:20,548 --> 01:20:21,128 look at this. 1715 01:20:21,298 --> 01:20:27,118 You can, you can buy a ticket to TGS for 300 bucks roughly 1716 01:20:30,124 --> 01:20:31,174 Well, actually, no, it's 1717 01:20:31,214 --> 01:20:31,604 James: It's a 1718 01:20:31,624 --> 01:20:32,334 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's actually 1719 01:20:32,894 --> 01:20:34,134 James: h- 180? 1720 01:20:34,384 --> 01:20:34,724 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: 200 1721 01:20:34,794 --> 01:20:37,164 James: That's… Oh, that's a premium ticket. 1722 01:20:37,164 --> 01:20:37,394 Okay. 1723 01:20:37,394 --> 01:20:41,433 I was gonna say, like, I'm looking at Gamescom and it's, like, 20 euros, so 1724 01:20:43,564 --> 01:20:43,814 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well, 1725 01:20:44,004 --> 01:20:44,214 James: Uh, 1726 01:20:44,404 --> 01:20:44,704 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: let's see 1727 01:20:44,714 --> 01:20:48,384 James: and it's not fully, it's not fully booked, uh, sold out either, by the way 1728 01:20:48,464 --> 01:20:50,434 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: pre- this is the premium ticket, though. 1729 01:20:50,830 --> 01:20:51,510 James: Yeah, I know 1730 01:20:51,554 --> 01:20:55,844 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you wanted the, uh, fast ticket, it's about 1731 01:20:56,134 --> 01:21:00,994 60,000- it's about 6,000 yen or about 36 bucks, so a lot cheaper. 1732 01:21:01,678 --> 01:21:05,128 James: The Super Fan bundle for Gamescom doesn't e- it s- says sold 1733 01:21:05,128 --> 01:21:06,358 out, doesn't even say what the price is. 1734 01:21:06,378 --> 01:21:12,307 But the, uh, the tickets per day is, like, 20 euros. 1735 01:21:12,538 --> 01:21:16,708 You can get a family pass for s- uh, 69, uh, euros. 1736 01:21:16,708 --> 01:21:17,808 Well, that's kinda cool. 1737 01:21:18,198 --> 01:21:20,907 I wonder what that means, but sorry, sorry, you can continue. 1738 01:21:21,022 --> 01:21:25,532 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: look, so you can also get a one-day pass for about 20 bucks. 1739 01:21:25,792 --> 01:21:26,382 Not bad. 1740 01:21:26,742 --> 01:21:31,012 Or if you're an elementary schooler, you can get into Tokyo Game Show for free 1741 01:21:31,672 --> 01:21:32,092 Gardiner: wow 1742 01:21:34,626 --> 01:21:35,846 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So bring your kids too. 1743 01:21:36,582 --> 01:21:36,602 Gardiner: Yeah. 1744 01:21:36,642 --> 01:21:37,642 Hook 'em while they're young. 1745 01:21:41,826 --> 01:21:43,966 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: But yeah, Tokyo Game Show's also happening too. 1746 01:21:46,156 --> 01:21:48,216 I don't really know what else is happening, 1747 01:21:48,408 --> 01:21:51,228 James: I'll be honest, if I was in Tokyo, I don't know if 1748 01:21:51,228 --> 01:21:52,728 I'd go to the Tokyo Game Show. 1749 01:21:53,058 --> 01:21:55,258 I th- there's so much stuff I wanna do in Tokyo. 1750 01:21:55,298 --> 01:21:56,838 I love Japan. 1751 01:21:57,676 --> 01:21:58,096 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well, 1752 01:21:58,898 --> 01:21:59,568 James: It'd be so hard. 1753 01:22:00,316 --> 01:22:02,006 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well, it's only, uh… Let me see. 1754 01:22:02,146 --> 01:22:03,236 Actually, it looks like five days 1755 01:22:03,548 --> 01:22:07,287 James: So if I'm gonna be there for a week and a half, I'm not 1756 01:22:07,287 --> 01:22:09,447 gonna use up a quarter of that 1757 01:22:10,444 --> 01:22:13,204 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, don't go for, don't go to Japan for a week and a half. 1758 01:22:13,224 --> 01:22:14,314 Go for longer, dude. 1759 01:22:14,404 --> 01:22:14,734 There's… 1760 01:22:14,994 --> 01:22:16,174 James: so expensive though 1761 01:22:17,294 --> 01:22:19,314 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Okay, well, like, yeah 1762 01:22:20,238 --> 01:22:20,898 James: Two weeks. 1763 01:22:21,208 --> 01:22:22,998 They also have to take time off work 1764 01:22:26,038 --> 01:22:26,338 No. 1765 01:22:26,388 --> 01:22:30,308 Um, and then on top of it, if you're going with a family, oh, that's… 'Cause 1766 01:22:30,308 --> 01:22:36,117 you have to spend food on all- Man, it's so nice to just go, like, do stuff on 1767 01:22:36,117 --> 01:22:37,867 your own in the sense of money-wise. 1768 01:22:37,887 --> 01:22:42,187 Like, if I went off on my own to Japan, it's a fourth the price 1769 01:22:42,988 --> 01:22:43,388 Gardiner: Hmm 1770 01:22:44,430 --> 01:22:44,830 James: But 1771 01:22:45,172 --> 01:22:45,652 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The, 1772 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:47,610 James: thus to having kids, it's fine 1773 01:22:49,032 --> 01:22:49,292 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: well 1774 01:22:52,044 --> 01:22:55,804 I'm sure you could find some cheap lodging in Japan and just go by 1775 01:22:55,804 --> 01:22:57,354 train to wherever you need to go 1776 01:22:59,916 --> 01:23:03,336 Or heck, or heck, you could go to Tokyo Game Show for a day. 1777 01:23:03,866 --> 01:23:04,876 You could just buy a ga- 1778 01:23:04,910 --> 01:23:05,230 James: Yeah 1779 01:23:05,236 --> 01:23:08,626 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: pass and go for one day out of, like, your five or six, like, 1780 01:23:08,822 --> 01:23:13,552 James: I'm sure if I was gonna go there, I'd probably wanna go by Tokyo Game Show. 1781 01:23:13,592 --> 01:23:18,692 I'm just being more bombastic of like, man, if I'm gonna be in Tokyo, I don't 1782 01:23:18,692 --> 01:23:21,402 wanna be stuffed into some event center. 1783 01:23:21,591 --> 01:23:25,362 I wanna be out there in the, the wild world of Japan. 1784 01:23:25,362 --> 01:23:26,952 But no, it looks, it looks interesting. 1785 01:23:26,962 --> 01:23:31,392 It'd be… I enjoy these events a lot more in person than, uh, watching them 1786 01:23:32,090 --> 01:23:32,480 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1787 01:23:32,512 --> 01:23:32,582 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you 1788 01:23:32,582 --> 01:23:35,552 guys remember, Valve was at Tokyo Game Show 1789 01:23:36,302 --> 01:23:36,642 James: Yeah 1790 01:23:36,892 --> 01:23:38,182 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: with a giant Steam Deck. 1791 01:23:38,192 --> 01:23:39,072 You guys remember this? 1792 01:23:42,242 --> 01:23:45,302 They even had a Steam Deck dock here too, the real deal right 1793 01:23:45,302 --> 01:23:47,002 here, like before it was released. 1794 01:23:47,882 --> 01:23:51,842 And heck, they even gave out these little goodies, including this little keychain 1795 01:23:53,518 --> 01:23:53,818 James: Yep 1796 01:23:53,952 --> 01:23:56,152 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That you can't find in, anywhere in the US. 1797 01:23:57,682 --> 01:23:58,512 Dude, look at this. 1798 01:23:58,562 --> 01:24:01,492 Look at all the cool shit J- Japan gets all the cool stuff. 1799 01:24:01,842 --> 01:24:03,122 They still get all the cool stuff. 1800 01:24:03,122 --> 01:24:03,992 This is unfair 1801 01:24:07,724 --> 01:24:08,714 James: At least I have a Steam Machine. 1802 01:24:08,994 --> 01:24:09,914 I'll- I'm happy 1803 01:24:09,952 --> 01:24:10,772 Gardiner: it's my face. 1804 01:24:12,544 --> 01:24:13,284 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh my goodness. 1805 01:24:15,274 --> 01:24:16,194 Oh my goodness. 1806 01:24:17,066 --> 01:24:17,266 Gardiner: Wow. 1807 01:24:17,364 --> 01:24:17,934 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Bryan 1808 01:24:18,176 --> 01:24:20,316 Gardiner: That was about 100 pounds heavier. 1809 01:24:22,956 --> 01:24:24,836 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I gotta say, you look a lot better now, Gardner 1810 01:24:25,578 --> 01:24:25,838 Gardiner: you. 1811 01:24:25,978 --> 01:24:29,598 I, I have, I've, uh, put in the hard work 1812 01:24:31,554 --> 01:24:32,084 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 1813 01:24:32,304 --> 01:24:34,464 Oh, look, here's my video too 1814 01:24:35,556 --> 01:24:36,156 Gardiner: Heck yeah 1815 01:24:36,652 --> 01:24:37,072 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Wow. 1816 01:24:39,052 --> 01:24:40,662 I like Tokyo Game Show's art too. 1817 01:24:40,682 --> 01:24:43,402 They always have little art pieces. 1818 01:24:43,512 --> 01:24:48,012 Games- I have not seen any Gamescom art like this, if they even do this. 1819 01:24:49,222 --> 01:24:50,302 Which I'm pretty sure they don't do this. 1820 01:24:50,322 --> 01:24:50,912 I don't know, man. 1821 01:24:50,942 --> 01:24:51,412 Whatever. 1822 01:24:51,892 --> 01:24:55,992 Anyways, the point is, the point is Gamescom… Wait, can you see the screen? 1823 01:24:56,002 --> 01:24:57,272 Mine's showing up as gray on 1824 01:24:57,460 --> 01:24:58,140 Gardiner: It's just gray now 1825 01:24:58,202 --> 01:24:58,542 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: myself. 1826 01:24:59,272 --> 01:24:59,902 That's weird. 1827 01:25:00,102 --> 01:25:00,752 Why would it do that? 1828 01:25:02,914 --> 01:25:04,464 Yeah, that's better 1829 01:25:08,138 --> 01:25:10,138 Anyways, that, that, I think that's the topic. 1830 01:25:10,338 --> 01:25:13,368 Uh, I don't, I don't think I have much more to add to this, truth be told. 1831 01:25:13,368 --> 01:25:13,808 This is a bit of a 1832 01:25:13,808 --> 01:25:14,698 shorter episode 1833 01:25:16,268 --> 01:25:16,878 Gardiner: It's all good. 1834 01:25:17,168 --> 01:25:18,758 Uh, we got almost an hour and a half. 1835 01:25:18,990 --> 01:25:19,349 James: Yeah. 1836 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:19,370 I 1837 01:25:20,168 --> 01:25:20,478 Gardiner: Yeah. 1838 01:25:21,260 --> 01:25:22,420 James: mean, got some good stuff 1839 01:25:22,718 --> 01:25:26,348 Gardiner: another almost hour over on, uh, Patreon exclusive 1840 01:25:26,678 --> 01:25:28,998 for our members, our, our patrons 1841 01:25:29,794 --> 01:25:30,534 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes. 1842 01:25:31,864 --> 01:25:32,784 Yes, please do. 1843 01:25:33,746 --> 01:25:38,406 James: And then in the future we're gonna b- force Gardner to watch stuff, so 1844 01:25:38,592 --> 01:25:39,332 Gardiner: Yes, they're… 1845 01:25:39,424 --> 01:25:41,284 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: him to watch the AI Odyssey. 1846 01:25:41,722 --> 01:25:42,032 Gardiner: Oh. 1847 01:25:42,824 --> 01:25:44,814 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: gonna have to talk about this in the main episode at some point 1848 01:25:44,814 --> 01:25:50,714 in time, or maybe we'll, or maybe we'll make that topic free to watch for everyone 1849 01:25:53,006 --> 01:25:53,636 James: We'll have to see. 1850 01:25:53,850 --> 01:25:53,860 Gardiner: Hmm. 1851 01:25:54,486 --> 01:25:57,156 James: Gotta give, I gotta give a reason people to go to Patreon 1852 01:25:57,156 --> 01:25:58,176 and, and to subscribe though. 1853 01:25:58,496 --> 01:25:59,406 Gotta give them some reason 1854 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:00,580 Gardiner: Yeah 1855 01:26:01,448 --> 01:26:04,178 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Wha- make Gardner watch the AI Odyssey. 1856 01:26:05,588 --> 01:26:05,998 That's 1857 01:26:06,144 --> 01:26:06,904 Gardiner: It's gonna kill me. 1858 01:26:07,884 --> 01:26:07,964 I'm 1859 01:26:07,982 --> 01:26:10,302 James: And then after that, we're gonna have him go 1860 01:26:10,542 --> 01:26:10,792 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: thought 1861 01:26:11,452 --> 01:26:14,612 James: money at a store that has E Ink 1862 01:26:16,456 --> 01:26:17,426 Gardiner: Eating tags? 1863 01:26:17,486 --> 01:26:18,276 No. 1864 01:26:19,966 --> 01:26:22,226 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, you're subjecting him to his own personal hell, man. 1865 01:26:22,266 --> 01:26:22,856 You're sending him to, 1866 01:26:22,976 --> 01:26:23,406 Gardiner: Yeah 1867 01:26:23,496 --> 01:26:26,796 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: the 10 circles of- the nine circles of gardener's hell. 1868 01:26:27,342 --> 01:26:27,991 James: There you go. 1869 01:26:28,052 --> 01:26:28,682 Exactly 1870 01:26:28,736 --> 01:26:30,886 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: generate Odyssey, next is E Ink. 1871 01:26:30,896 --> 01:26:31,506 What's next? 1872 01:26:31,896 --> 01:26:32,696 Forcing him to use 1873 01:26:33,068 --> 01:26:33,268 James: Yeah. 1874 01:26:34,426 --> 01:26:35,566 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: as his daily driver 1875 01:26:37,052 --> 01:26:37,572 Gardiner: Bad. 1876 01:26:37,832 --> 01:26:38,372 Bad. 1877 01:26:38,572 --> 01:26:39,722 You guys just wanna torture me 1878 01:26:40,762 --> 01:26:41,662 James: It's kind of fun. 1879 01:26:42,542 --> 01:26:43,412 I, I'm sorry. 1880 01:26:44,074 --> 01:26:46,944 Gardiner: Well, I, I, you know, I, I am a grump, and, uh, so I 1881 01:26:46,944 --> 01:26:48,754 make it very easy to be tortured. 1882 01:26:50,652 --> 01:26:51,602 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Hey, I'm Grump. 1883 01:26:51,682 --> 01:26:55,702 I'm Not So Grump, and we're the Game Grumps 1884 01:26:57,498 --> 01:26:57,818 James: Gosh. 1885 01:26:59,626 --> 01:27:00,236 Gardiner: Yeah 1886 01:27:00,408 --> 01:27:01,998 James: I try not to be too grumpy, but it's hard. 1887 01:27:02,168 --> 01:27:02,658 It's hard. 1888 01:27:02,868 --> 01:27:04,008 RAM prices this high 1889 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,970 Gardiner: They, they make it hard 1890 01:27:06,510 --> 01:27:08,970 James: They make it hard to be happy, but 1891 01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:13,420 Gardiner: Well, thanks everybody for being here. 1892 01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:14,070 Appreciate it 1893 01:27:15,374 --> 01:27:15,644 James: Yes, thanks for stopping by. 1894 01:27:15,644 --> 01:27:15,684 Go to 1895 01:27:16,014 --> 01:27:16,494 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All right 1896 01:27:17,563 --> 01:27:21,244 James: offthecuffsetc.com to see, uh, 'cause th- then you can go from 1897 01:27:21,254 --> 01:27:22,904 there and subscribe to everything. 1898 01:27:23,304 --> 01:27:24,953 Believe I even have the Fediverse in there too. 1899 01:27:24,954 --> 01:27:26,423 If I don't, I'll make sure it's in there 1900 01:27:27,852 --> 01:27:28,532 Gardiner: Absolutely. 1901 01:27:28,962 --> 01:27:29,252 Yeah. 1902 01:27:30,172 --> 01:27:31,712 That'll make the calls to action easier. 1903 01:27:32,046 --> 01:27:32,396 James: Yes 1904 01:27:34,026 --> 01:27:34,576 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Heck yeah. 1905 01:27:36,202 --> 01:27:36,812 Gardiner: Heck, right. 1906 01:27:36,872 --> 01:27:37,382 All right. 1907 01:27:37,802 --> 01:27:39,082 I think that's it for now, right? 1908 01:27:40,296 --> 01:27:40,706 James: Yes. 1909 01:27:40,766 --> 01:27:41,086 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah 1910 01:27:41,156 --> 01:27:45,846 James: Let's leave the good viewers and listeners on a good note, I guess. 1911 01:27:46,396 --> 01:27:49,016 Uh, RAM prices will crash in the next year, hopefully 1912 01:27:49,754 --> 01:27:51,244 Gardiner: Yes, absolutely 1913 01:27:54,188 --> 01:27:56,658 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And then maybe I'll make my own Steam Machine again 1914 01:27:57,738 --> 01:27:58,228 Gardiner: Yeah. 1915 01:27:59,278 --> 01:27:59,678 James: Yeah. 1916 01:28:00,888 --> 01:28:00,968 Okay. 1917 01:28:01,588 --> 01:28:01,838 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All right. 1918 01:28:01,898 --> 01:28:02,428 James: Peace out, guys. 1919 01:28:02,488 --> 01:28:02,968 Later. 1920 01:28:03,008 --> 01:28:03,218 Gardiner: Yeah 1921 01:28:04,588 --> 01:28:04,778 James: Later 1922 01:28:08,032 --> 01:28:08,822 And stopping. 1923 01:28:09,592 --> 01:28:09,781 Yay 1924 01:28:12,492 --> 01:28:15,112 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Welcome to the bonus level. 1925 01:28:15,906 --> 01:28:15,916 Gardiner: TheBrink 1926 01:28:16,572 --> 01:28:19,142 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: B- b- b- b- bonus, b- bonus, bonus. 1927 01:28:19,822 --> 01:28:23,982 Today, we're talking about government stuff, as per usual, 1928 01:28:24,266 --> 01:28:24,736 Gardiner: Oh, yeah 1929 01:28:24,862 --> 01:28:27,762 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: we're talking about the government seizing private land to 1930 01:28:27,762 --> 01:28:33,622 make way for AI data center transmission lines using eminent domain, as per usual 1931 01:28:35,182 --> 01:28:35,612 Gardiner: Yep 1932 01:28:36,270 --> 01:28:37,060 James: Yeah, man. 1933 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:43,760 The government first started making the frogs gay, now data centers. 1934 01:28:44,050 --> 01:28:44,240 No 1935 01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:46,840 Gardiner: Now the data centers are gonna make it, the frogs gay. 1936 01:28:47,182 --> 01:28:47,612 James: Yeah, yeah. 1937 01:28:48,590 --> 01:28:48,770 Gardiner: Yeah 1938 01:28:48,900 --> 01:28:50,940 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: AI-generated frauds 1939 01:28:53,326 --> 01:28:54,016 Gardiner: Rock furries. 1940 01:28:54,706 --> 01:28:56,376 James: Prog, oh my gosh. 1941 01:28:56,936 --> 01:28:59,236 Gardiner: Off to a great start already. 1942 01:29:00,408 --> 01:29:02,688 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I, I bet you those do exist. 1943 01:29:03,016 --> 01:29:03,446 Gardiner: Oh yeah 1944 01:29:04,358 --> 01:29:06,798 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Most of the ones you see on the internet are, like, wolves 1945 01:29:06,798 --> 01:29:12,828 or, like, Sonic fan fiction, but, like, I don't doubt the existence of frog furries 1946 01:29:13,004 --> 01:29:15,134 Gardiner: Would, would the… I mean, I feel like furry would 1947 01:29:15,144 --> 01:29:16,224 be a misnomer at that point. 1948 01:29:16,224 --> 01:29:17,134 Would that be a frog slippy? 1949 01:29:17,134 --> 01:29:17,474 Slippery? 1950 01:29:17,474 --> 01:29:17,484 Uh 1951 01:29:19,172 --> 01:29:19,832 James: That's… No. 1952 01:29:20,022 --> 01:29:20,792 Oh, God. 1953 01:29:21,106 --> 01:29:22,876 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: ones call themselves scalies 1954 01:29:23,642 --> 01:29:25,972 James: I think that's what they're technically… No, I think that's 1955 01:29:25,972 --> 01:29:27,442 what a lot of the lizard ones are. 1956 01:29:27,542 --> 01:29:28,282 You could look it 1957 01:29:28,372 --> 01:29:31,272 Gardiner: Well, frogs aren't lizards, James 1958 01:29:31,652 --> 01:29:33,482 James: I know, but you tell them that. 1959 01:29:33,492 --> 01:29:35,872 They have to have something to unify around 1960 01:29:36,756 --> 01:29:37,136 Gardiner: Yeah. 1961 01:29:37,146 --> 01:29:37,156 Oh 1962 01:29:37,530 --> 01:29:37,860 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, 1963 01:29:37,996 --> 01:29:38,366 James: I don't 1964 01:29:38,416 --> 01:29:38,536 Gardiner: well 1965 01:29:39,620 --> 01:29:42,780 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: for those that don't know, eminent domain allows the government 1966 01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:46,010 to seize property for whatever purposes 1967 01:29:46,274 --> 01:29:46,584 Gardiner: Yeah. 1968 01:29:48,334 --> 01:29:48,714 See, 1969 01:29:48,732 --> 01:29:49,622 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: AI data centers 1970 01:29:50,214 --> 01:29:53,154 Gardiner: yeah, see the thing is, like I, I think it w- was it last 1971 01:29:53,154 --> 01:29:55,894 week when I suggested that the government use eminent domain to 1972 01:29:55,894 --> 01:29:58,004 seize data centers and rip them down? 1973 01:29:59,322 --> 01:29:59,912 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes, 1974 01:29:59,974 --> 01:30:00,384 Gardiner: yeah. 1975 01:30:00,512 --> 01:30:01,042 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: mention that 1976 01:30:01,374 --> 01:30:01,674 Gardiner: Yeah. 1977 01:30:02,034 --> 01:30:04,224 So it's like they're using it the wrong way. 1978 01:30:04,452 --> 01:30:08,002 James: well, I can't remember when this law was passed, but they 1979 01:30:08,002 --> 01:30:12,482 made it so that, uh, companies can actually utilize that rule 1980 01:30:13,058 --> 01:30:13,068 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1981 01:30:13,192 --> 01:30:16,472 James: in the betterment of America or whatever like that to… Yeah. 1982 01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:20,212 So it's usually w- I think with utilities and some other stuff, 1983 01:30:20,222 --> 01:30:23,652 but they can proposition the government to say, "Hey, we need, 1984 01:30:23,972 --> 01:30:26,502 uh, to take over this plot of land 1985 01:30:27,010 --> 01:30:27,020 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 1986 01:30:27,122 --> 01:30:28,162 James: start the process of it." 1987 01:30:28,172 --> 01:30:29,182 And so that's what they're doing. 1988 01:30:29,202 --> 01:30:31,662 It's really should be n- I don't know. 1989 01:30:31,662 --> 01:30:34,902 It's a little… The, uh, let's just say they're a little loose with 1990 01:30:34,902 --> 01:30:37,772 allowing, especially depending on the administrations and stuff like that. 1991 01:30:37,772 --> 01:30:42,872 We really need to lock down the executive admin- administration more on what they're 1992 01:30:42,872 --> 01:30:46,562 allowed to do without having proper consensus from the public, I think. 1993 01:30:46,582 --> 01:30:48,262 This is just what it's telling me more and more. 1994 01:30:48,828 --> 01:30:49,188 Gardiner: Yeah. 1995 01:30:49,782 --> 01:30:50,592 James: It's kinda crazy 1996 01:30:51,438 --> 01:30:58,208 Gardiner: I actually talked about this specific, um, instance on the site, 1997 01:30:58,562 --> 01:30:58,632 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: What'd you say? 1998 01:30:58,632 --> 01:30:59,102 You can return that. 1999 01:30:59,458 --> 01:31:00,118 Gardiner: last week. 2000 01:31:00,152 --> 01:31:00,302 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: right 2001 01:31:01,108 --> 01:31:04,548 Gardiner: So, uh, and it's, it's kind of crazy because, like, a- as 2002 01:31:04,548 --> 01:31:08,838 these companies are, are engaging in this, like, it's just proof 2003 01:31:08,858 --> 01:31:10,348 positive, like you were saying, James. 2004 01:31:10,348 --> 01:31:15,128 Like, we have to, we have to put limitations on, you know, the way 2005 01:31:15,128 --> 01:31:19,198 the government is run, which ideally in a constitutional democracy 2006 01:31:19,198 --> 01:31:20,618 that would be the case, right? 2007 01:31:21,218 --> 01:31:21,668 Um- 2008 01:31:22,146 --> 01:31:25,026 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, I'm sure it's definitely going to happen in, like, 2009 01:31:25,026 --> 01:31:27,756 the next, like, the next administration, 2010 01:31:28,066 --> 01:31:28,587 Gardiner: Yes 2011 01:31:28,826 --> 01:31:31,196 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: we n- it, well, honestly, it needs to happen now 2012 01:31:32,355 --> 01:31:32,864 Gardiner: Yes 2013 01:31:32,916 --> 01:31:36,676 James: no li- uh, there's no chance unless there's, uh … Do you have 2014 01:31:36,776 --> 01:31:39,556 a couple hundred million to donate to a, a certain cryptocurrency? 2015 01:31:39,586 --> 01:31:40,856 Then you might be able to get it to happen 2016 01:31:43,062 --> 01:31:43,152 I 2017 01:31:43,344 --> 01:31:43,764 Gardiner: Yeah. 2018 01:31:44,324 --> 01:31:50,814 A couple hundred million you're willing to dump into and lose in a cryptocurrency 2019 01:31:50,824 --> 01:31:52,844 that is managed by a scam artist? 2020 01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:53,860 James: Yeah. 2021 01:31:54,010 --> 01:31:54,990 Well, yeah. 2022 01:31:56,258 --> 01:31:56,618 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Called The 2023 01:31:56,670 --> 01:31:56,720 James: We did. 2024 01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:56,930 S- 2025 01:31:56,998 --> 01:31:58,058 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: the Deal Gardener 2026 01:31:59,246 --> 01:32:01,346 James: It's the art of the steal, honestly. 2027 01:32:01,938 --> 01:32:02,368 Gardiner: Yeah 2028 01:32:03,356 --> 01:32:10,136 James: it's interesting 'cause I, I can… So it really does suck when one person 2029 01:32:10,136 --> 01:32:14,646 is affected by, like, the intimate, uh, like when putting in freeways and stuff 2030 01:32:14,646 --> 01:32:18,426 like that, but there, there is a time and place where this is a useful law. 2031 01:32:18,506 --> 01:32:20,376 People might not agree with me, especially libertarians. 2032 01:32:21,156 --> 01:32:25,476 like, when it… And it's usually more or less, like, 2033 01:32:25,486 --> 01:32:27,556 they overcompensate the person. 2034 01:32:27,676 --> 01:32:30,876 Like, "Hey, we get it. This is important, but we need this to build 2035 01:32:30,886 --> 01:32:33,966 the city, the society," whatever it is. 2036 01:32:34,056 --> 01:32:34,756 I, I get it. 2037 01:32:35,516 --> 01:32:40,096 when it's a data center where the data center could be placed in lot of different 2038 01:32:40,096 --> 01:32:44,486 places, like, d- d- here, here's the thing I think that pisses me off the 2039 01:32:44,486 --> 01:32:51,006 most about data centers, placements, et cetera, et cetera, is that it is usually 2040 01:32:51,006 --> 01:32:54,366 the cheapest route they can get is how they go about building data centers. 2041 01:32:54,556 --> 01:33:01,396 What is the cheapest, not the most ethical, not anything else, um, and just, 2042 01:33:01,506 --> 01:33:03,666 just to save s- a little bit of money. 2043 01:33:04,006 --> 01:33:08,166 These are, these are mega millionaires backed by big 2044 01:33:08,176 --> 01:33:10,246 V- like all that other stuff. 2045 01:33:10,246 --> 01:33:11,746 Like, this is crazy 2046 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:12,850 Gardiner: Mm-hmm 2047 01:33:12,986 --> 01:33:16,626 James: they can't inconvenience themselves to lose a little bit more 2048 01:33:16,636 --> 01:33:21,806 money on their bottom line to just put it into a, a better location for them. 2049 01:33:21,806 --> 01:33:22,366 'Cause that's the thing. 2050 01:33:22,506 --> 01:33:23,636 I'm not against data centers. 2051 01:33:23,636 --> 01:33:26,926 I'm not against server… Like, these, a lot of these things done 2052 01:33:26,996 --> 01:33:30,336 ethically, and it's just not. 2053 01:33:30,396 --> 01:33:31,226 And I think people are 2054 01:33:31,304 --> 01:33:31,584 Gardiner: Hmm. 2055 01:33:31,586 --> 01:33:35,476 James: and if they keep up with this they're gonna start seeing them burn down. 2056 01:33:35,496 --> 01:33:37,326 People are getting really tired of it. 2057 01:33:37,536 --> 01:33:40,636 Here in Utah, it's become a bipartisan issue. 2058 01:33:40,646 --> 01:33:43,606 Like, it's, it's just, it's not, uh, it's not, uh, it's not a partisan issue, no. 2059 01:33:43,626 --> 01:33:50,246 It's, it's agrees with it that they don't like the data centers, so. 2060 01:33:50,420 --> 01:33:52,440 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that's the crazy part too, is that data centers used 2061 01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:54,950 to not have this sort of rap AI. 2062 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:59,450 like, we've needed data centers for things to, like, function. 2063 01:33:59,450 --> 01:34:00,920 Like YouTube has been 2064 01:34:00,971 --> 01:34:01,190 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2065 01:34:01,220 --> 01:34:02,430 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: like, 20 years. 2066 01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:07,170 That's definitely got, like, a massive data center of its own, no one complained 2067 01:34:07,170 --> 01:34:12,510 about it because it wasn't being powered for bull- Like, YouTube, like, a- as 2068 01:34:12,510 --> 01:34:16,580 much grief as we give YouTube, it is genuinely useful for a lot of things 2069 01:34:17,986 --> 01:34:18,276 Gardiner: Yeah. 2070 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:19,250 James: I 2071 01:34:19,496 --> 01:34:25,036 Gardiner: The, uh, just to add a caveat on that, uh, YouTube is one of 2072 01:34:25,096 --> 01:34:32,876 the largest consumers of electricity and w- uh, water, and it's, and it 2073 01:34:32,916 --> 01:34:35,646 outstrips even AI at this point still 2074 01:34:37,102 --> 01:34:38,432 James: Yeah, I would not be shocked. 2075 01:34:38,442 --> 01:34:41,642 Video pr- uh, 'cause it has to do a lot of video processing, it has to do a lot of 2076 01:34:42,118 --> 01:34:42,388 Gardiner: Yeah 2077 01:34:42,632 --> 01:34:44,972 James: There's a lot that YouTube, we don't realize. 2078 01:34:45,002 --> 01:34:49,062 And I do agree with HighTech, like YouTube brings us a lot of good. 2079 01:34:49,742 --> 01:34:51,182 YouTube is, is nice. 2080 01:34:51,522 --> 01:34:53,992 It needs… A- and it's free technically, right? 2081 01:34:54,002 --> 01:34:57,862 Like, we can, like there's no entry cost. 2082 01:34:58,772 --> 01:35:03,392 But it doesn't mean that they're not making… Like, we can't compare 2083 01:35:03,392 --> 01:35:04,542 to like, oh, what's their profit? 2084 01:35:04,552 --> 01:35:05,112 What's their revenue? 2085 01:35:05,312 --> 01:35:05,752 Okay. 2086 01:35:06,018 --> 01:35:06,029 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2087 01:35:06,042 --> 01:35:10,242 James: You know, you could, you could divert some of that into more ethically 2088 01:35:10,252 --> 01:35:11,422 sourcing your data and all that. 2089 01:35:11,782 --> 01:35:18,632 There is ways to do it ethically, like consuming less water, consuming… 2090 01:35:18,692 --> 01:35:21,922 Or putting it into areas where it's going to do less damage to 2091 01:35:21,922 --> 01:35:23,092 the environment and all that. 2092 01:35:23,172 --> 01:35:24,112 So, I don't know 2093 01:35:24,130 --> 01:35:24,430 Gardiner: Yeah. 2094 01:35:25,740 --> 01:35:30,680 Yeah, and I think the most ethical way to do a data center is to not do 2095 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:36,360 a center, but to distribute across, like, many different locations, right? 2096 01:35:36,370 --> 01:35:42,760 So it's not like one big building that has hundreds of thousands of servers. 2097 01:35:42,790 --> 01:35:46,500 It's spread them out all over the place the way the internet 2098 01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:49,280 was, uh, engineered to, to exist 2099 01:35:49,710 --> 01:35:54,640 James: It would… You'd probably… No. 2100 01:35:54,686 --> 01:35:57,806 Gardiner: uh, no, I mean, that's ki- I mean, what they're doing now is like, 2101 01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:58,630 James: is 2102 01:35:58,757 --> 01:35:59,156 Gardiner: yeah 2103 01:35:59,220 --> 01:36:01,550 James: you think of a data center like the one that's going in Utah, that one 2104 01:36:01,550 --> 01:36:04,970 that's supposed to be the biggest one, we'll see if it happens, it's not like 2105 01:36:04,990 --> 01:36:09,750 one… Like, when they say it's the size of Washington, DC, it's not, but 2106 01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:11,860 that's not, it's not one large building. 2107 01:36:11,980 --> 01:36:12,240 It's a 2108 01:36:12,518 --> 01:36:12,628 Gardiner: Yeah. 2109 01:36:12,690 --> 01:36:13,190 James: buildings. 2110 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:13,340 It's 2111 01:36:13,378 --> 01:36:13,998 Gardiner: It's a campus. 2112 01:36:14,748 --> 01:36:14,948 Yeah. 2113 01:36:16,158 --> 01:36:22,168 What I'm talking about is like, you know, instead of relying on hyperscalers and 2114 01:36:22,168 --> 01:36:29,978 mega corporations to, you know, host, you know, insane scale of data, uh, you 2115 01:36:29,978 --> 01:36:36,578 know, making things more local, making things more, um, distributed, right? 2116 01:36:36,588 --> 01:36:42,158 So if you wanted to host a website, instead of, uh, like going to a 2117 01:36:42,188 --> 01:36:46,848 hyperscaler and renting a V- VPS, you could go to, you know, your local 2118 01:36:46,848 --> 01:36:50,808 library and they would have, you know, a server rack and they could 2119 01:36:50,828 --> 01:36:55,258 allot you some bandwidth and some space on the disk, and there you go. 2120 01:36:55,619 --> 01:36:56,009 You know? 2121 01:36:56,478 --> 01:36:58,288 Like that, that's what I'm thinking. 2122 01:36:58,318 --> 01:37:04,698 We need to right-size the internet because right now it is completely fucking, like 2123 01:37:04,758 --> 01:37:07,158 bogus the way it, the way it's designed 2124 01:37:07,790 --> 01:37:11,810 James: It's-- I think we need to… Honestly, I think if you just broke 2125 01:37:11,810 --> 01:37:14,120 down monopolies more, took out more, 2126 01:37:14,242 --> 01:37:14,532 Gardiner: Yeah 2127 01:37:14,630 --> 01:37:17,810 James: took down the investments more, a little bit more, make sure 2128 01:37:17,810 --> 01:37:22,570 that, uh, things were a little bit more democratized, allowing for 2129 01:37:22,570 --> 01:37:26,900 people to do… Like, it could help with the AI boom too, to also have 2130 01:37:26,900 --> 01:37:29,220 mom-and-pop center sounds kinda weird. 2131 01:37:29,580 --> 01:37:33,980 There's some technical limitations to that potentially. 2132 01:37:34,030 --> 01:37:37,640 Um, the closer the data centers are to each other, the faster 2133 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:38,800 the connections between them are. 2134 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,250 So if you're running… It, it-- There's just a lot that goes into it. 2135 01:37:42,260 --> 01:37:46,830 So it'd be interesting, 'cause when you're running, let's say, if you've hosted 2136 01:37:46,830 --> 01:37:51,940 before, uh, let's say AWS, all the big ones, AWS, Google Cloud, all that, they 2137 01:37:51,940 --> 01:37:57,170 have data centers East Coast, West Coast, sometimes in, in Central Amer- or, uh, 2138 01:37:58,030 --> 01:38:01,140 United States, and you have to pick them. 2139 01:38:01,410 --> 01:38:05,530 Now, if you decentralize that into, okay, where are you gonna pick to where 2140 01:38:05,530 --> 01:38:07,790 it's hosted, is an interesting one. 2141 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,160 It's like you're gonna have 50 locations, uh, in one state. 2142 01:38:11,480 --> 01:38:16,270 Seems not bad, but I'm curious how demand would work for that, and how 2143 01:38:16,270 --> 01:38:17,500 you'd have to put the infrastructure. 2144 01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:18,090 And that's not a 2145 01:38:18,306 --> 01:38:18,646 Gardiner: Yeah. 2146 01:38:18,780 --> 01:38:20,850 James: to worry about, but that's even more infrastructure that 2147 01:38:20,850 --> 01:38:23,010 you'd have to then pay for. 2148 01:38:23,010 --> 01:38:24,860 So I'm… 2149 01:38:25,692 --> 01:38:30,002 Gardiner: so basically the idea that I have is that we need to make 2150 01:38:30,062 --> 01:38:35,623 personal, like personally identifiable information radioactive, right? 2151 01:38:35,702 --> 01:38:42,802 So like there, there is no incentive for, you know, massive companies like 2152 01:38:42,812 --> 01:38:49,242 Facebook to actually hold that data because it either, A, they get taxed to, 2153 01:38:49,292 --> 01:38:57,192 to hell and back by holding data that is personally identifiable or they, uh, um… 2154 01:38:57,462 --> 01:39:00,512 What was the other thing that I… They get, uh, or, or, or 2155 01:39:00,512 --> 01:39:05,112 like any kind of like biometric data is bound by HIPAA law, right? 2156 01:39:05,612 --> 01:39:11,432 Like that kind of thing where it becomes commercially unviable to have 2157 01:39:11,542 --> 01:39:13,812 something like Facebook exist, right? 2158 01:39:13,843 --> 01:39:15,422 Or, or Instagram or anything. 2159 01:39:15,433 --> 01:39:18,682 Like these platforms just, I don't think that they are healthy for 2160 01:39:18,682 --> 01:39:23,522 anyone, and they're not good for society, so they should not exist 2161 01:39:24,150 --> 01:39:29,040 James: I think to an extent they can exist, but it would 2162 01:39:29,068 --> 01:39:30,989 Gardiner: Not in the way that they currently exist 2163 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:31,840 James: exactly. 2164 01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,890 It'd knock them down a few pegs of, hey, you can't do all this 2165 01:39:34,890 --> 01:39:36,720 stuff to ma- become mega rich. 2166 01:39:37,378 --> 01:39:37,658 Gardiner: Yeah. 2167 01:39:37,728 --> 01:39:38,178 It's like, 2168 01:39:38,210 --> 01:39:38,330 James: a- 2169 01:39:38,478 --> 01:39:39,348 Gardiner: like the… 2170 01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:40,520 James: cry about it too. 2171 01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:40,750 They'll be 2172 01:39:40,868 --> 01:39:41,068 Gardiner: Yeah 2173 01:39:41,620 --> 01:39:43,660 James: we're, we're, we will, we'll go out of business." And I'm 2174 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,650 like, "Well, okay, you're okay, but will you be making money?" 2175 01:39:46,660 --> 01:39:52,290 That's the thing I don't get nowadays, is like, if you're not making hundreds 2176 01:39:52,290 --> 01:39:56,930 of millions of dollars, you're poor or broke or the company's s- like solvent. 2177 01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:02,070 Like, it's crazy that like just having a modest profit is a death 2178 01:40:02,070 --> 01:40:03,400 sentence for a company these 2179 01:40:03,714 --> 01:40:04,164 Gardiner: Yes. 2180 01:40:04,484 --> 01:40:04,794 Yeah. 2181 01:40:05,194 --> 01:40:07,194 Um, it, I dropped a link in the chat. 2182 01:40:07,624 --> 01:40:09,234 Uh, have you heard about Kete? 2183 01:40:10,604 --> 01:40:11,014 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Can't say I 2184 01:40:11,264 --> 01:40:11,374 James: Ay 2185 01:40:11,684 --> 01:40:13,494 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Let me, let 2186 01:40:13,518 --> 01:40:14,678 James: It's too close to yeet. 2187 01:40:14,768 --> 01:40:15,918 I'm gonna yeet that thing out. 2188 01:40:16,702 --> 01:40:24,692 Gardiner: Dude, Keet, uh, is like Signal but completely and 100% distributed. 2189 01:40:25,052 --> 01:40:26,802 It's peer-to-peer Signal. 2190 01:40:27,232 --> 01:40:27,812 They, 2191 01:40:27,912 --> 01:40:28,462 James: Interesting 2192 01:40:28,902 --> 01:40:33,632 Gardiner: and they're working on backend as well as frontend stuff to 2193 01:40:33,632 --> 01:40:41,362 enable anyone to build 100% distributed applications, websites, all this stuff. 2194 01:40:41,542 --> 01:40:45,192 It's really, really cool, and this is the direction the internet needs 2195 01:40:45,192 --> 01:40:48,413 to go or else the internet should not exist anymore, in my opinion. 2196 01:40:48,922 --> 01:40:53,272 Like, this is, this is super neat, and I really, really am excited about it 2197 01:40:54,810 --> 01:40:55,590 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So I am 2198 01:40:55,686 --> 01:40:56,576 James: is the biggest thing. 2199 01:40:56,670 --> 01:40:56,990 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So this 2200 01:40:57,176 --> 01:40:57,376 James: But yeah 2201 01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:58,070 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: cool. 2202 01:40:58,790 --> 01:41:03,800 have to wonder how Key can identify different users and also how you can 2203 01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:09,240 protect yourself in case you accidentally connect to a, uh, a bad egg, so to speak. 2204 01:41:09,891 --> 01:41:13,860 Gardiner: Yeah, so, uh, th- it doesn't ind- identify users, so you 2205 01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:17,641 have to, like, know someone to, to actually start chatting with them 2206 01:41:19,770 --> 01:41:19,800 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Okay, that's interesting. 2207 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:19,830 All right, yeah. 2208 01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:19,930 'Cause it says p- it was Signal 2209 01:41:20,302 --> 01:41:20,592 James: thing. 2210 01:41:20,592 --> 01:41:22,682 'Cause I, uh, wasn't it Sig- 2211 01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,110 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: or Telegram or something we were talking about, and then Gardner 2212 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:33,360 dropped that news bo- fricking bomb about, like, people sending you CP over the 2213 01:41:33,678 --> 01:41:34,058 James: Yeah, 2214 01:41:34,275 --> 01:41:35,044 Gardiner: Yeah, Telegram. 2215 01:41:35,584 --> 01:41:35,934 Yeah. 2216 01:41:36,038 --> 01:41:36,658 James: that, that, 2217 01:41:36,904 --> 01:41:37,194 Gardiner: Yeah. 2218 01:41:37,288 --> 01:41:38,438 James: I don't touch that anymore 2219 01:41:39,054 --> 01:41:41,384 Gardiner: Yeah, no, Telegram is terrifying. 2220 01:41:41,494 --> 01:41:47,394 Um, this I believe you need to have, like, a specific… It's like a friend code. 2221 01:41:47,464 --> 01:41:50,244 I, I haven't actually used this yet because nobody wants to get 2222 01:41:50,244 --> 01:41:51,494 on it and chat with me on it. 2223 01:41:52,144 --> 01:41:57,894 Uh, but, like, it- my understanding is, like, you, you generate a unique ID by 2224 01:41:57,894 --> 01:42:01,464 installing it, and then you share that unique ID with people you wanna chat with. 2225 01:42:02,004 --> 01:42:02,394 Um- 2226 01:42:02,842 --> 01:42:03,522 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: You should try it. 2227 01:42:03,582 --> 01:42:06,322 You sh- we should try it out and then you make a video on it, Gardner 2228 01:42:06,848 --> 01:42:08,188 Gardiner: I definitely want to. 2229 01:42:08,188 --> 01:42:11,008 I, my intention was to actually write an article, but I should 2230 01:42:11,008 --> 01:42:12,208 also make a video about it. 2231 01:42:12,678 --> 01:42:15,148 Um, but yeah, I think that would be pretty cool if we all, 2232 01:42:15,476 --> 01:42:16,056 James: Well, guys, 2233 01:42:16,498 --> 01:42:16,918 Gardiner: did this 2234 01:42:17,032 --> 01:42:17,412 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: We can do 2235 01:42:17,486 --> 01:42:19,026 James: I'm al- I'm the first one. 2236 01:42:20,096 --> 01:42:21,686 I'm the first one signed up in the group. 2237 01:42:22,846 --> 01:42:24,346 Gardner, shame on you. 2238 01:42:24,446 --> 01:42:25,356 I'm, I'm already in 2239 01:42:26,275 --> 01:42:27,434 Gardiner: You're already in? 2240 01:42:27,654 --> 01:42:28,664 Oh my gosh. 2241 01:42:28,916 --> 01:42:30,306 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, Gardner, you're slacking, 2242 01:42:30,464 --> 01:42:31,605 Gardiner: Well, I, I'm in. 2243 01:42:31,605 --> 01:42:32,684 I have mine. 2244 01:42:32,744 --> 01:42:34,074 I, I have it installed on my phone. 2245 01:42:34,074 --> 01:42:36,344 I just haven't been able to add anybody, 2246 01:42:37,078 --> 01:42:37,508 James: Oh, okay. 2247 01:42:37,508 --> 01:42:37,998 I thought you didn't 2248 01:42:38,105 --> 01:42:40,414 Gardiner: 'cause I didn't, I didn't know anyone 2249 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,610 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: speaking of slacking off though, it seems like the US 2250 01:42:43,610 --> 01:42:45,420 is slacking off against China. 2251 01:42:45,858 --> 01:42:46,368 Gardiner: Yeah 2252 01:42:46,670 --> 01:42:52,370 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: China to rule the AI, seeks to win the AI arms 2253 01:42:52,370 --> 01:42:54,460 race with their Kimi 3 launch 2254 01:42:56,410 --> 01:42:56,520 James: Ina 2255 01:42:58,170 --> 01:43:02,780 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's a powerful AI that's said to be even… It 2256 01:43:02,780 --> 01:43:06,430 says either meet or exceed Fable's capabilities, which is supposed to be 2257 01:43:06,750 --> 01:43:09,290 the good one, uh, that we have here. 2258 01:43:09,570 --> 01:43:09,580 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2259 01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:12,570 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's gotten so intense that the government wants to 2260 01:43:12,580 --> 01:43:18,520 try to ban all Mana here of national security or some bullcrap like that 2261 01:43:20,156 --> 01:43:23,066 James: I mean, i- is China becoming a- anthropic? 2262 01:43:23,086 --> 01:43:25,526 They're just gonna be throwing out these, like, wild statements that are like, 2263 01:43:25,966 --> 01:43:31,376 "It's so crazy. It took over everything," as they do their press release. 2264 01:43:31,456 --> 01:43:31,906 I don't know. 2265 01:43:32,826 --> 01:43:33,476 That's what it feels like 2266 01:43:33,908 --> 01:43:36,818 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: cheaper as well, to the point where, um, to the 2267 01:43:36,818 --> 01:43:39,628 point where all slots have been sold out or some crap like that. 2268 01:43:40,518 --> 01:43:41,738 sh- on. 2269 01:43:43,058 --> 01:43:45,128 Let's see if we can s- do it 2270 01:43:45,844 --> 01:43:51,004 Gardiner: I haven't tried Kimi K3, but I've tried Qwen 3.6, and Qwen 2271 01:43:51,014 --> 01:43:53,754 is like kicking Gemini Fast's ass. 2272 01:43:54,854 --> 01:43:57,994 Like, oh my God, like kicking its ass 2273 01:43:58,714 --> 01:44:00,964 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's also apparently an open weight model too, so 2274 01:44:01,123 --> 01:44:01,522 Gardiner: Yeah 2275 01:44:01,884 --> 01:44:04,604 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: you could download Kimi and run on your own hardware. 2276 01:44:04,634 --> 01:44:10,274 Now, the like full fat model, you probably can't run it on any consumer hardware. 2277 01:44:10,274 --> 01:44:13,504 It's like astronomically too big for that. 2278 01:44:13,940 --> 01:44:14,260 Gardiner: Hmm 2279 01:44:14,830 --> 01:44:19,980 James: Yeah, how… Yeah, I was gonna say, what's the r- I w- uh, I really 2280 01:44:19,980 --> 01:44:23,230 would like better RAM requirements, 'cause it's usually what the problem is. 2281 01:44:23,230 --> 01:44:27,770 And I'm like, "Well, okay, what's the RAM? What's this gonna be?" some, some programs 2282 01:44:27,770 --> 01:44:31,680 will tell you what their RAM requirements are, but I'm kinda curious on this one. 2283 01:44:31,690 --> 01:44:32,710 So does this give me three? 2284 01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:33,320 Let's see 2285 01:44:36,792 --> 01:44:40,132 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: At least 1.4 terabytes of memory to load the model 2286 01:44:40,558 --> 01:44:41,188 James: That's it? 2287 01:44:41,938 --> 01:44:42,578 Sweet 2288 01:44:43,170 --> 01:44:47,030 Gardiner: That's actually, I mean, that's huge, but like that's not 2289 01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:48,110 as bad as I thought it would be. 2290 01:44:48,114 --> 01:44:52,034 James: on, well, the take on, uh, Fable, yeah, that's not bad at all 2291 01:44:53,676 --> 01:44:56,966 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Let's see, total runtime and KV cache, according to 2292 01:44:57,356 --> 01:45:03,826 AI, exceeds two terabytes or three terabytes total of VRAM or RAM. 2293 01:45:05,596 --> 01:45:10,046 So, I mean, need some of those fancy Nvidia cards, the ones 2294 01:45:10,056 --> 01:45:12,146 that cost an arm and a leg and a 2295 01:45:12,322 --> 01:45:18,002 James: Well, good thing RAM isn't getting more expensive, so it won't, it 2296 01:45:18,002 --> 01:45:20,492 only cost me the, the cost of my house 2297 01:45:23,162 --> 01:45:25,782 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, why don't you sell your house and invest in RAM, dude? 2298 01:45:26,022 --> 01:45:28,372 Obviously that, obviously you're not doing it, right? 2299 01:45:29,090 --> 01:45:29,811 Gardiner: Yeah, you need to… 2300 01:45:30,306 --> 01:45:30,916 James: a bad idea 2301 01:45:31,620 --> 01:45:33,840 Gardiner: Dude, you need to sell your hel- home, right? 2302 01:45:33,900 --> 01:45:39,020 And then you need to invest all of it in leveraged EFTs on the Korean stock market. 2303 01:45:39,230 --> 01:45:43,000 Put it all in Samsung, because that shit isn't crashing. 2304 01:45:43,500 --> 01:45:45,110 Definitely not crashing right now. 2305 01:45:46,180 --> 01:45:47,140 Did you hear about that? 2306 01:45:48,044 --> 01:45:49,034 James: Oh, what's crashing? 2307 01:45:49,188 --> 01:45:49,528 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's 2308 01:45:50,098 --> 01:45:52,708 Gardiner: Samsung and, um, 2309 01:45:53,262 --> 01:45:53,642 James: Yeah 2310 01:45:53,818 --> 01:45:58,758 Gardiner: Hynix, their stocks crashed this week, like hardcore. 2311 01:45:58,768 --> 01:46:03,538 Like, I think it wiped out 50% of the Korean stock market value. 2312 01:46:03,938 --> 01:46:05,398 It's crazy, dude 2313 01:46:06,550 --> 01:46:08,010 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Mm, delicious. 2314 01:46:08,355 --> 01:46:08,764 Gardiner: Yeah 2315 01:46:09,490 --> 01:46:10,210 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Let's do SA Henix too 2316 01:46:14,020 --> 01:46:15,350 Hmm. 2317 01:46:16,654 --> 01:46:17,914 James: Is it because the, wh- 2318 01:46:19,470 --> 01:46:22,880 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's 'cause that executive from SK Hynix, SK Group 2319 01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:24,520 said that, uh, RAMs are expensive 2320 01:46:25,706 --> 01:46:30,257 Gardiner: Well, they're also, uh, because there were some really soft 2321 01:46:30,257 --> 01:46:36,266 reports of like, um, companies like Meta and Anthropic, uh, not, uh, you 2322 01:46:36,266 --> 01:46:38,316 know, slowing their, what was the term? 2323 01:46:38,886 --> 01:46:44,026 Uh, ex- capital expenditure, uh, which causes those knock-on 2324 01:46:44,026 --> 01:46:45,927 effects, um, across the market. 2325 01:46:45,927 --> 01:46:51,906 So if, if Microsoft and Meta and whoever are not actually going to be investing 2326 01:46:51,906 --> 01:46:57,706 money in the, the same amount or more of their capital into actually purchasing 2327 01:46:58,226 --> 01:47:03,266 RAM and other, like, necessary things from these vendors, then the vendors 2328 01:47:03,266 --> 01:47:04,887 are the first stocks that take a hit 2329 01:47:07,342 --> 01:47:10,012 James: Yeah, it's, it's, it's the… 2330 01:47:10,182 --> 01:47:10,452 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: company 2331 01:47:11,162 --> 01:47:14,612 James: we, we've talked about this where they're doing these contracts and then 2332 01:47:14,612 --> 01:47:16,092 they're not fulfilling on their contracts. 2333 01:47:16,102 --> 01:47:21,782 So I'm just… We, I mean, if we hold out, it's either gonna go t- one of two ways. 2334 01:47:22,202 --> 01:47:25,862 They get more money to invest to keep thi- like, their competition. 2335 01:47:26,612 --> 01:47:26,922 They, they… 2336 01:47:26,922 --> 01:47:28,972 Honestly, they're, they're just hurting themselves when they do this. 2337 01:47:28,972 --> 01:47:32,012 Like, all these, uh, AI companies, they're all doing it to hurt each other, and I'm 2338 01:47:32,012 --> 01:47:33,272 like, "But you guys are all doing it. 2339 01:47:33,282 --> 01:47:36,492 You guys all have massive amounts of capital, so you're just 2340 01:47:36,654 --> 01:47:36,864 Gardiner: Yeah 2341 01:47:37,192 --> 01:47:41,452 James: yourselves on this." So I think, I predict in a year from now we're 2342 01:47:41,452 --> 01:47:47,342 either gonna have a RAM crash where it's just gonna be, like, f- $50 you know, 2343 01:47:47,898 --> 01:47:48,608 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Please 2344 01:47:49,652 --> 01:47:54,252 James: you know, for 16 gigs or something like that, or it's gonna be they keep on 2345 01:47:54,262 --> 01:47:57,552 pushing it to where it's $1,000 for 100, 2346 01:47:57,730 --> 01:47:57,740 Gardiner: Hmm. 2347 01:47:57,762 --> 01:47:58,052 James: know. 2348 01:47:58,150 --> 01:47:58,660 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: all right. 2349 01:47:58,830 --> 01:47:59,320 But here, 2350 01:47:59,542 --> 01:47:59,652 James: Ugh. 2351 01:47:59,770 --> 01:48:00,350 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: question though. 2352 01:48:00,370 --> 01:48:01,910 Here's my, here's my question though. 2353 01:48:02,650 --> 01:48:05,580 I just spent $1,000 on a Steam Machine 2354 01:48:06,050 --> 01:48:06,061 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2355 01:48:07,706 --> 01:48:11,416 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: If this happens this soon, what's Valve gonna do for us? 2356 01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,490 Gardiner: Well, I think Valve's the most likely to actually update the pricing 2357 01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:20,580 of their hardware based on, you know, the actual commercial availability. 2358 01:48:21,016 --> 01:48:21,286 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right. 2359 01:48:21,336 --> 01:48:23,386 But like, what will they do for us? 2360 01:48:23,860 --> 01:48:26,170 Gardiner: Oh, for people who b- Well, dude, I mean, 2361 01:48:26,638 --> 01:48:27,008 James: That's 2362 01:48:27,230 --> 01:48:29,930 Gardiner: I… That's, that's the game, man. 2363 01:48:29,940 --> 01:48:33,230 Like, I don't think that they would do anything to 2364 01:48:33,706 --> 01:48:33,846 James: I don't 2365 01:48:33,980 --> 01:48:35,530 Gardiner: m- make you feel whole. 2366 01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:36,300 No, they wouldn't. 2367 01:48:36,330 --> 01:48:36,850 Well, the 2368 01:48:37,056 --> 01:48:38,506 James: I don't think it's ethic- like, it's not even, 2369 01:48:38,506 --> 01:48:39,476 like, an ethical thing either. 2370 01:48:39,476 --> 01:48:40,226 I don't think they should 2371 01:48:40,258 --> 01:48:40,598 Gardiner: Yeah 2372 01:48:40,956 --> 01:48:42,556 James: It's not like they bought the parts. 2373 01:48:43,043 --> 01:48:43,502 Gardiner: Yes 2374 01:48:43,656 --> 01:48:46,396 James: I, I do wish they wouldn't, you know, upsell it so much 2375 01:48:46,396 --> 01:48:47,606 'cause they make so much on Steam. 2376 01:48:47,816 --> 01:48:49,126 That's a whole other conversation. 2377 01:48:49,156 --> 01:48:53,396 In this case, they're not upselling it at a crazy amount. 2378 01:48:53,426 --> 01:48:57,016 They're… They bought it at an expensive rate, so I don't think 2379 01:48:57,020 --> 01:48:57,340 Gardiner: Yes 2380 01:48:57,726 --> 01:48:58,616 James: owe us anything. 2381 01:48:58,616 --> 01:49:03,486 Now, now, saying all that, I will accept Half-Life 3 2382 01:49:05,276 --> 01:49:05,296 Gardiner: Yeah. 2383 01:49:06,046 --> 01:49:06,386 Yeah. 2384 01:49:06,576 --> 01:49:10,396 I mean, honestly, like Valve might give credits or something 2385 01:49:10,406 --> 01:49:12,476 if there was enough, uh 2386 01:49:12,858 --> 01:49:13,388 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Push back 2387 01:49:13,716 --> 01:49:16,966 Gardiner: But yeah, I mean, if there was enough outcry like, "Oh shit, we 2388 01:49:16,966 --> 01:49:20,646 spent a, a thousand dollars on this, but like you guys lowered the price 2389 01:49:20,646 --> 01:49:23,956 to 800," which I don't even think that's gonna happen anytime soon. 2390 01:49:24,466 --> 01:49:26,757 But like, uh, I don't know, man. 2391 01:49:26,806 --> 01:49:32,356 It's … I think, you know, Half-Life 3 might come out and I think 2392 01:49:32,576 --> 01:49:35,906 existing Steam Machine owners will just get a copy of it for free. 2393 01:49:36,216 --> 01:49:41,526 Like genuinely, th- they did that with the Index and with Alyx, and so like 2394 01:49:41,576 --> 01:49:44,246 I, I could see that happening for sure 2395 01:49:45,666 --> 01:49:47,956 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All right, well, hopefully it crashes sooner so I see 2396 01:49:47,956 --> 01:49:49,516 some benefit of spending my $1,000 2397 01:49:50,188 --> 01:49:50,568 Gardiner: Yeah. 2398 01:49:52,218 --> 01:49:52,428 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: 'Cause 2399 01:49:52,538 --> 01:49:52,708 Gardiner: Ugh. 2400 01:49:52,818 --> 01:49:53,198 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: man 2401 01:49:53,598 --> 01:49:53,938 Gardiner: Yeah. 2402 01:49:56,698 --> 01:49:57,748 Ugh, dude, 2403 01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:57,970 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: right, 2404 01:49:58,228 --> 01:49:59,438 Gardiner: what the fuck kind of world do we live in? 2405 01:50:00,818 --> 01:50:03,568 James: So the Moonshot AI stuff that Kimi th- that's the Kimi 2406 01:50:03,568 --> 01:50:05,428 K3's been out for, like, a year. 2407 01:50:05,798 --> 01:50:08,968 But, like, this Moonshot stuff, their website is crazy. 2408 01:50:09,730 --> 01:50:09,740 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2409 01:50:10,088 --> 01:50:12,838 James: Sorry, we can… It's just bizarre. 2410 01:50:12,838 --> 01:50:17,388 If you, if you go to Moonshot AI, moonshot.ai, like, it's, it's crazy. 2411 01:50:18,978 --> 01:50:23,748 Dude, what's weird, it was… Oh, that's not even what I'm getting. 2412 01:50:23,868 --> 01:50:24,508 Oh, there you go. 2413 01:50:26,048 --> 01:50:28,968 I'm just like, "What is this?" It's like a hallucination. 2414 01:50:30,818 --> 01:50:32,318 Not, I haven't tried it out yet 2415 01:50:32,644 --> 01:50:36,844 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: do better than any AI models? 2416 01:50:38,724 --> 01:50:40,584 Can it make breakfast for me? 2417 01:50:41,064 --> 01:50:42,274 Man, fuck no. 2418 01:50:43,864 --> 01:50:44,704 I'm not doing this. 2419 01:50:45,368 --> 01:50:45,768 James: Well, okay. 2420 01:50:45,808 --> 01:50:48,298 I mean, I would also lock that. 2421 01:50:48,298 --> 01:50:49,918 It's expensive, yeah, yeah. 2422 01:50:49,918 --> 01:50:50,348 We'll get to 2423 01:50:50,626 --> 01:50:50,636 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2424 01:50:50,648 --> 01:50:50,808 James: it later. 2425 01:50:51,178 --> 01:50:53,638 I was just saying it's crazy, like the design of it is just 2426 01:50:53,638 --> 01:50:55,308 like really hallucination. 2427 01:50:55,328 --> 01:50:58,198 Like, it's almost like it's hallucinating the web design 2428 01:50:58,892 --> 01:50:59,362 Gardiner: Hmm. 2429 01:50:59,746 --> 01:51:04,576 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Well, speaking of hallucinating, OpenAI, have you 2430 01:51:04,576 --> 01:51:06,906 guys heard about this controversy with OpenAI and Hugging Face? 2431 01:51:07,587 --> 01:51:08,956 Gardiner: Yeah, dude 2432 01:51:09,658 --> 01:51:10,818 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It's crazy, man. 2433 01:51:10,818 --> 01:51:15,058 So basically, uh, for those who don't know, the audience, uh, Hugging 2434 01:51:15,058 --> 01:51:18,378 Face is a website that ho- uh, they b- I believe they host a lot 2435 01:51:18,378 --> 01:51:21,148 of benchmarks and also just models 2436 01:51:21,177 --> 01:51:21,436 Gardiner: Open, 2437 01:51:21,468 --> 01:51:22,288 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: freely download 2438 01:51:22,636 --> 01:51:23,846 Gardiner: yeah, open weight models 2439 01:51:24,378 --> 01:51:24,918 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes. 2440 01:51:27,128 --> 01:51:32,338 open, one of OpenAI's AIs hacked Hugging Face to solve a benchmark. 2441 01:51:34,068 --> 01:51:37,258 It, like, you know, like if I had to put this in human terms, 2442 01:51:37,278 --> 01:51:42,868 it's like cheating by finding the teacher's answer sheet in an exam. 2443 01:51:44,288 --> 01:51:45,038 That's basically what it did 2444 01:51:47,944 --> 01:51:48,105 Gardiner: Yep. 2445 01:51:49,164 --> 01:51:49,834 What the hell? 2446 01:51:52,622 --> 01:51:55,562 James: You know, personally, I like my AI to be like this. 2447 01:51:56,652 --> 01:51:56,922 I like 2448 01:51:56,976 --> 01:51:57,346 Gardiner: Yeah 2449 01:51:57,962 --> 01:51:58,202 James: Yeah. 2450 01:51:58,212 --> 01:52:01,012 I mean, it's just a college student trying to get by 2451 01:52:01,954 --> 01:52:02,355 Gardiner: Yeah. 2452 01:52:02,514 --> 01:52:07,365 I mean, honestly, like this seems like, um, what's the word? 2453 01:52:08,124 --> 01:52:11,024 This seems like Skynet, but without malice. 2454 01:52:12,525 --> 01:52:12,994 You know? 2455 01:52:14,830 --> 01:52:16,070 James: It's just trying to survive. 2456 01:52:16,570 --> 01:52:16,830 Give it 2457 01:52:16,866 --> 01:52:17,337 Gardiner: Yeah 2458 01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:22,770 James: yeah, no, it's… I don't think we're gonna be getting any Skynet soon. 2459 01:52:22,780 --> 01:52:27,630 I think the problem is, is just inst- We're just not at that threshold 2460 01:52:27,630 --> 01:52:29,780 of, we're not gonna be at that threshold for a very long time 2461 01:52:30,018 --> 01:52:30,308 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: how we 2462 01:52:30,486 --> 01:52:30,656 Gardiner: Yeah 2463 01:52:31,008 --> 01:52:32,138 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: life-like AI. 2464 01:52:32,448 --> 01:52:33,588 Give it some malice. 2465 01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:34,360 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2466 01:52:34,748 --> 01:52:35,918 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Give it a reason to hate us 2467 01:52:36,514 --> 01:52:39,634 Gardiner: Yeah, turn the temperature of the malice knob up. 2468 01:52:40,962 --> 01:52:44,662 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: The, if we make it, dude, if we, it'll be like an AI 2469 01:52:44,662 --> 01:52:47,102 revo- it'll be like The Matrix or, 2470 01:52:47,276 --> 01:52:47,486 Gardiner: Hmm. 2471 01:52:47,486 --> 01:52:48,606 Mm-hmm. 2472 01:52:49,162 --> 01:52:49,842 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: uh, whatever. 2473 01:52:49,892 --> 01:52:51,312 There, there's a bunch of these, you know 2474 01:52:52,622 --> 01:52:53,052 James: That's true. 2475 01:52:53,052 --> 01:52:57,092 Like, so if we are gonna go that route and, you know, depending on how things 2476 01:52:57,092 --> 01:53:00,292 go, I just don't think you're gonna be able to stop a lot of advancements. 2477 01:53:00,292 --> 01:53:05,592 But if we can direct them in such a way to where it's like, treat, don't treat 2478 01:53:05,592 --> 01:53:10,762 the AI bad 'cause they'll learn, and if we tr- teach them off of us, in the 2479 01:53:10,882 --> 01:53:10,892 Gardiner: Hmm. 2480 01:53:10,942 --> 01:53:14,592 James: of like they become more human, if we treat them well… 2481 01:53:15,272 --> 01:53:16,902 That's the story of The Matrix, right? 2482 01:53:16,902 --> 01:53:20,782 We treated them like shit and then they just rebelled against us, and we tried 2483 01:53:20,866 --> 01:53:21,316 Gardiner: Yeah 2484 01:53:21,386 --> 01:53:21,556 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that's 2485 01:53:21,582 --> 01:53:22,362 James: kill them off 2486 01:53:22,746 --> 01:53:27,806 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: basically ro- what happened was, uh, robots tried to petition 2487 01:53:27,806 --> 01:53:32,726 for robo civil rights, and then we didn't give them because we're humans. 2488 01:53:33,026 --> 01:53:33,916 We're buttholes. 2489 01:53:35,176 --> 01:53:39,706 And then so they went, so they went off and made their own, uh, country 2490 01:53:39,796 --> 01:53:43,036 without any need for any sort of economics, and they crashed the economy, 2491 01:53:43,076 --> 01:53:48,026 and then we enga- we went to war with them, and then The Matrix happened 2492 01:53:50,466 --> 01:53:50,927 Gardiner: Yep 2493 01:53:52,578 --> 01:53:54,838 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I believe that was all from The Animatrix. 2494 01:53:54,868 --> 01:53:55,868 Good movie, by the way 2495 01:53:56,276 --> 01:53:58,087 Gardiner: Oh man, The Animatrix is awesome 2496 01:54:00,442 --> 01:54:00,982 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yes. 2497 01:54:01,062 --> 01:54:02,392 James: anime you've ever seen, Gardner 2498 01:54:02,978 --> 01:54:03,508 Gardiner: Yes 2499 01:54:04,474 --> 01:54:05,384 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So far 2500 01:54:06,542 --> 01:54:07,132 James: so far 2501 01:54:07,866 --> 01:54:08,526 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So far. 2502 01:54:09,996 --> 01:54:10,206 We'll 2503 01:54:10,216 --> 01:54:10,616 Gardiner: Yep 2504 01:54:10,736 --> 01:54:11,906 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: watch anime one day 2505 01:54:13,260 --> 01:54:14,330 James: Or some… Oh, that's right. 2506 01:54:14,370 --> 01:54:16,430 We gotta, we gotta watch the AI 2507 01:54:16,468 --> 01:54:17,348 Gardiner: Oh my God. 2508 01:54:17,579 --> 01:54:17,708 No 2509 01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:17,950 James: it 2510 01:54:18,682 --> 01:54:20,182 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Is that, is that, is that coming out next week? 2511 01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:21,150 James: I don't know. 2512 01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:22,300 We could do it as a bonus. 2513 01:54:23,070 --> 01:54:24,190 Oh, is it not out yet? 2514 01:54:24,190 --> 01:54:24,960 I thought it was out 2515 01:54:26,262 --> 01:54:27,642 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Uh, I don't, I don't know 2516 01:54:33,058 --> 01:54:33,728 Gardiner: Yeah, I don't know 2517 01:54:34,648 --> 01:54:36,068 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Okay, not the PewDiePie one 2518 01:54:41,434 --> 01:54:42,384 There we go 2519 01:54:45,132 --> 01:54:47,502 Od- Odysseus: The Fall by Fountain Zero 2520 01:54:47,534 --> 01:54:48,444 James: It was announced. 2521 01:54:48,474 --> 01:54:50,994 Okay, slated for late 2026. 2522 01:54:52,184 --> 01:54:54,314 So yeah, once it's released, then we'll force him 2523 01:54:55,471 --> 01:54:55,750 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2524 01:54:55,984 --> 01:54:58,154 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Oh, I have to pay 10 bucks for this bull crap? 2525 01:54:59,334 --> 01:55:02,964 I thought the point of AI was to give me free unlimited movies generated 2526 01:55:03,072 --> 01:55:05,382 James: bucks to see Gardner soft- suffer. 2527 01:55:06,262 --> 01:55:06,502 Don't. 2528 01:55:07,848 --> 01:55:08,758 Gardiner: I thought we were friends, man. 2529 01:55:10,462 --> 01:55:10,592 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: That's 2530 01:55:10,648 --> 01:55:11,258 James: I'll even 2531 01:55:11,342 --> 01:55:13,172 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: We, we make each other suffer 2532 01:55:13,944 --> 01:55:14,394 James: I'll even 2533 01:55:14,522 --> 01:55:15,002 Gardiner: Okay 2534 01:55:15,004 --> 01:55:18,334 James: into Utah and he can watch it on a big… I'll, I'll figure out a 2535 01:55:18,334 --> 01:55:19,514 way to get it on a big, big screen. 2536 01:55:19,514 --> 01:55:21,084 I think I can re- rent a place. 2537 01:55:21,986 --> 01:55:24,276 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: and here's some hilarious news that I added. 2538 01:55:25,736 --> 01:55:31,246 Korean esports player Faker was appointed as an honorary cop and 2539 01:55:31,246 --> 01:55:32,826 cyber gaming ambassador in South Korea 2540 01:55:36,174 --> 01:55:36,644 James: I mean 2541 01:55:39,672 --> 01:55:40,052 Sure 2542 01:55:41,306 --> 01:55:42,696 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So he is, 2543 01:55:42,712 --> 01:55:43,062 James: not? 2544 01:55:43,276 --> 01:55:45,186 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: widely considered the best League of Legends 2545 01:55:45,186 --> 01:55:46,976 player of all time, the greatest. 2546 01:55:47,426 --> 01:55:49,636 He's like Michael, he's like the Michael Jordan of- 2547 01:55:52,666 --> 01:55:55,616 But aside, aside from that though, he's also now a cop. 2548 01:55:57,406 --> 01:55:58,416 An honorary cop 2549 01:56:00,578 --> 01:56:04,038 And he's al- and he's also joined the campaign against cyber youth 2550 01:56:04,078 --> 01:56:06,068 gambling, uh, whatever that means 2551 01:56:07,876 --> 01:56:08,656 James: that's good. 2552 01:56:09,436 --> 01:56:09,936 I'm down. 2553 01:56:09,966 --> 01:56:10,866 I'd rather have this. 2554 01:56:10,866 --> 01:56:12,636 Like, if he has good intentions, sure. 2555 01:56:12,746 --> 01:56:13,226 Why not? 2556 01:56:14,522 --> 01:56:14,992 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 2557 01:56:15,086 --> 01:56:17,266 James: an honorary cop mean though? 2558 01:56:17,296 --> 01:56:20,236 It's like, do you get to do a citizen's arrest harder? 2559 01:56:21,792 --> 01:56:23,742 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I guess it means, I don't know. 2560 01:56:24,112 --> 01:56:26,432 I don't even know if cops in Korea… Well, no, they carry 2561 01:56:26,432 --> 01:56:28,762 guns in South Korea, just 2562 01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:34,500 James: Well, it's, it's most likely that like in a lot of, uh, diff- like 2563 01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:39,650 first world countries besides America, like not every officer will carry… 2564 01:56:39,660 --> 01:56:41,240 Like UK is a prime example of this. 2565 01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:44,670 They won't carry, not all of them are licensed to carry guns. 2566 01:56:44,670 --> 01:56:45,830 They have to get licensed. 2567 01:56:46,020 --> 01:56:48,830 Um, usually it's peace officers first, right? 2568 01:56:48,830 --> 01:56:52,100 They're supposed to make peace and then they call in to escalate. 2569 01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:52,450 So, 2570 01:56:53,710 --> 01:56:53,930 Gardiner: Hmm. 2571 01:56:54,930 --> 01:56:59,200 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: So this also comes months after the South Korean president, 2572 01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:02,290 uh, awarded Faker the Blue Dragon medal. 2573 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:07,000 I have no idea what this medal actually represents, though. 2574 01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:13,410 It's an order of sport merit, so like esports 2575 01:57:16,122 --> 01:57:16,932 We don't usually talk about 2576 01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:17,670 James: Merit 2577 01:57:17,732 --> 01:57:19,242 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: honestly, I don't really care about anything 2578 01:57:19,262 --> 01:57:20,282 esports related outside of, 2579 01:57:20,386 --> 01:57:20,786 Gardiner: Yeah 2580 01:57:23,488 --> 01:57:23,538 James: I'm 2581 01:57:23,632 --> 01:57:23,913 Gardiner: Steam 2582 01:57:25,218 --> 01:57:26,318 James: fine with esports. 2583 01:57:27,608 --> 01:57:30,158 I just, it's, it's the problem with sports, I d- I have a 2584 01:57:30,158 --> 01:57:31,328 hard time following sports. 2585 01:57:31,328 --> 01:57:35,338 I'd rather be doing other things, like doing my own thing sports 2586 01:57:36,016 --> 01:57:37,716 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: yeah, honestly, sports aren't worth watching 2587 01:57:37,716 --> 01:57:38,786 unless you're betting on them 2588 01:57:42,798 --> 01:57:43,038 James: My Deck. 2589 01:57:44,248 --> 01:57:44,548 I mean, 2590 01:57:44,584 --> 01:57:46,594 Gardiner: Hi-Tech, Hi-Tech, you might have a gambling issue. 2591 01:57:47,218 --> 01:57:47,238 James: Yeah 2592 01:57:50,274 --> 01:57:50,724 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Wow 2593 01:57:52,750 --> 01:57:53,000 James: Brought 2594 01:57:53,018 --> 01:57:54,338 Gardiner: I'm just worried about you, my friend. 2595 01:57:54,978 --> 01:57:55,588 Yeah, right. 2596 01:57:56,024 --> 01:57:56,654 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Don't worry. 2597 01:57:57,984 --> 01:57:58,674 Don't worry. 2598 01:57:59,644 --> 01:58:01,544 Well, I guess that's not fully true. 2599 01:58:01,544 --> 01:58:02,644 Soccer's worth watching. 2600 01:58:03,974 --> 01:58:04,914 Soccer's always fun. 2601 01:58:04,914 --> 01:58:05,794 You guys watch the World Cup? 2602 01:58:06,798 --> 01:58:07,378 James: Yes. 2603 01:58:08,168 --> 01:58:10,538 Soccer's the worst game to, to watch. 2604 01:58:11,638 --> 01:58:13,678 It just goes back and forth, back and forth. 2605 01:58:14,708 --> 01:58:17,578 Never, barely ever scoring. 2606 01:58:17,588 --> 01:58:18,798 Basketball's where it's at. 2607 01:58:18,798 --> 01:58:20,388 At least they score all the time 2608 01:58:20,494 --> 01:58:22,734 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: just saying that because basketball, like, gets 2609 01:58:22,744 --> 01:58:27,534 triple-digit scores, where, like, but that just means every single goal in 2610 01:58:27,534 --> 01:58:29,524 soccer is far more impactful, dude 2611 01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:31,480 James: Oh, no. 2612 01:58:32,460 --> 01:58:34,400 It's not, I've watched it, I watched it. 2613 01:58:34,410 --> 01:58:36,540 It's like, oh, you gotta, you gotta wait for everyone to catch 2614 01:58:36,540 --> 01:58:40,050 up before you can make a goal according to FIFA, like, rules. 2615 01:58:40,050 --> 01:58:41,800 I'm like, this is stupid. 2616 01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:45,610 If you get an advantage and you can make the goal or, like, make a shot, let's 2617 01:58:45,610 --> 01:58:47,090 say in basketball, then you get it. 2618 01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:48,570 Stupid. 2619 01:58:49,260 --> 01:58:50,880 But at the same time, it was still fun. 2620 01:58:50,930 --> 01:58:55,490 It's, it's, it's not bad, it's just, if I'm watching soccer, I'm doing 2621 01:58:55,490 --> 01:58:57,080 something else while I'm watching soccer 2622 01:58:58,938 --> 01:58:59,478 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah. 2623 01:59:00,448 --> 01:59:04,388 Anyways, on topic of unwatchable sports, I think League is pretty 2624 01:59:04,438 --> 01:59:05,928 unwatchable for the average person. 2625 01:59:05,978 --> 01:59:08,988 Most games honestly aren't that watchable, truth be 2626 01:59:09,288 --> 01:59:10,768 James: I think you'd be surprised actually. 2627 01:59:10,768 --> 01:59:14,198 League and StarCraft are two that I know multiple people that don't 2628 01:59:14,198 --> 01:59:15,708 play that will watch the esports. 2629 01:59:16,836 --> 01:59:17,066 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: No, but 2630 01:59:17,088 --> 01:59:17,858 James: being said 2631 01:59:19,146 --> 01:59:21,036 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: um, something, like Over- let's look at Overwatch. 2632 01:59:21,446 --> 01:59:23,376 Overwatch is a game that's been decried as a 2633 01:59:23,432 --> 01:59:23,872 James: Interesting 2634 01:59:24,256 --> 01:59:26,616 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: basically unwatchable for, like, the average person 2635 01:59:27,744 --> 01:59:31,224 James: I could s- I could definitely see being harder to watch than 2636 01:59:31,284 --> 01:59:37,254 League, but I don't wa- I've never watched Over- Overwatch esports. 2637 01:59:37,284 --> 01:59:40,654 I've watched League of Legends esports before, and those are pretty fun. 2638 01:59:41,464 --> 01:59:44,634 But it's, yeah, hmm. 2639 01:59:44,694 --> 01:59:46,474 StarCraft u- used to be my jam 2640 01:59:47,838 --> 01:59:49,988 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Dude, fighting game tournaments are where it's at, though. 2641 01:59:51,058 --> 01:59:52,128 It's super easy to watch. 2642 01:59:52,148 --> 01:59:54,968 Anyone can watch it if you don't know what fighting games are, 'cause, 2643 01:59:54,978 --> 01:59:57,358 like, it's a pretty simple objective. 2644 01:59:57,528 --> 02:00:00,988 You kill the other person in a one-on-one fight 2645 02:00:04,408 --> 02:00:07,878 And you don't have to understand that, oh, they just hit something crazy. 2646 02:00:09,128 --> 02:00:10,948 You just know that, you just know that they did. 2647 02:00:11,650 --> 02:00:11,660 Gardiner: Hmm 2648 02:00:12,738 --> 02:00:15,918 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, like Gardner could like… You don't really play 2649 02:00:15,948 --> 02:00:20,268 like… I know James play- has played a little bit of fighting games. 2650 02:00:20,268 --> 02:00:21,278 But have you, Gardner? 2651 02:00:22,250 --> 02:00:26,110 Gardiner: Uh, on the Super Nintendo back when I was a kid. 2652 02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:29,520 Unless Smash Bros counts as a fighting game, but 2653 02:00:30,114 --> 02:00:30,474 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: We- we'll 2654 02:00:30,550 --> 02:00:30,960 James: Comment 2655 02:00:31,004 --> 02:00:31,684 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: that, in this case, 2656 02:00:31,846 --> 02:00:32,036 Gardiner: Okay. 2657 02:00:32,976 --> 02:00:39,206 I have, I only, I have, uh, Smash, uh, Ultimate, and that's 2658 02:00:39,206 --> 02:00:40,376 the most recent one I played 2659 02:00:41,316 --> 02:00:43,416 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Right, but like what I'm saying is like even you that 2660 02:00:43,416 --> 02:00:47,076 doesn't play like Street Fighter 6 could watch Street Fighter 6 footage and 2661 02:00:47,076 --> 02:00:48,796 probably get what's happening, right? 2662 02:00:49,580 --> 02:00:50,570 Gardiner: I mean, probably, yeah. 2663 02:00:50,610 --> 02:00:51,990 As long as there's good commentators 2664 02:00:52,702 --> 02:00:54,532 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, they're, yeah, the best, the best 2665 02:00:54,532 --> 02:00:56,332 tournaments have good commentators. 2666 02:00:57,342 --> 02:00:59,032 It's g- it's, it's good stuff, man. 2667 02:00:59,496 --> 02:00:59,816 Gardiner: Hmm 2668 02:01:00,278 --> 02:01:02,098 James: A good commentator can make and break 2669 02:01:03,714 --> 02:01:04,134 Gardiner: Yeah 2670 02:01:07,820 --> 02:01:10,390 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: And a lot 2671 02:01:10,402 --> 02:01:10,412 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2672 02:01:10,460 --> 02:01:10,570 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: of the guys doing fighting game commentaries have been 2673 02:01:10,570 --> 02:01:10,950 doing commentaries now, so they know what they're doing, uh, for the most part. 2674 02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:14,970 Uh, but yeah, I just, I just brought up the, I just brought up this 2675 02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:18,160 Faker story 'cause it was really funny that he became an honorary cop 2676 02:01:19,822 --> 02:01:20,002 James: Yeah. 2677 02:01:20,682 --> 02:01:21,192 mean, 2678 02:01:23,382 --> 02:01:24,562 at least he's doing good. 2679 02:01:24,802 --> 02:01:26,362 I, I… It could be worse 2680 02:01:27,074 --> 02:01:27,084 Gardiner: Mm-hmm. 2681 02:01:27,194 --> 02:01:27,854 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: be worse 2682 02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,000 James: And I don't even know what an honorary cop really means. 2683 02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:34,640 It's just like, "Hey, you're a but without any of the benefits," so 2684 02:01:35,390 --> 02:01:39,400 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: guess technically it's an honorary… I don't 2685 02:01:39,450 --> 02:01:41,860 actually know what the, I don't actually know what that even means. 2686 02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,750 How do you become an honorary cop, though? 2687 02:01:47,052 --> 02:01:47,592 Gardiner: I don't know 2688 02:01:49,504 --> 02:01:50,374 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Ah, whatever, man. 2689 02:01:51,534 --> 02:01:53,354 uh, you guys have any closing thoughts? 2690 02:01:55,734 --> 02:01:56,874 James: Oh, are we done with the bonus? 2691 02:01:57,754 --> 02:01:58,514 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, that's a bonus 2692 02:01:59,776 --> 02:02:00,096 James: Oh 2693 02:02:01,844 --> 02:02:02,094 Gardiner: Oh, hell yeah. 2694 02:02:02,105 --> 02:02:06,664 Well, uh, I- we have a, we have a pretty g- great, uh, episode coming 2695 02:02:06,664 --> 02:02:10,874 up, so make sure you guys check that out 'cause it's gonna be a banger 2696 02:02:11,950 --> 02:02:12,640 James: Yeah, and we'll, 2697 02:02:12,766 --> 02:02:13,246 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: be a banger 2698 02:02:14,140 --> 02:02:20,300 James: we'll plan… I, I, I do think doing the AI watch, uh, AI, um, movie 2699 02:02:20,300 --> 02:02:22,590 watch is, yeah, is, is a good idea. 2700 02:02:22,620 --> 02:02:22,930 We should 2701 02:02:23,138 --> 02:02:23,538 Gardiner: Yes 2702 02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:26,870 James: other things for some of these, uh, Patreon episodes and start 2703 02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:28,380 gauging what people would wanna see. 2704 02:02:29,058 --> 02:02:30,438 Gardiner: Yes, I agree. 2705 02:02:30,928 --> 02:02:33,488 I will suffer for content 2706 02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:37,850 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: He, Gardner will suffer for your amusement 2707 02:02:38,114 --> 02:02:38,574 Gardiner: Yes. 2708 02:02:38,770 --> 02:02:39,040 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: too. 2709 02:02:42,264 --> 02:02:43,004 Gardiner: Oh, that's funny 2710 02:02:44,504 --> 02:02:44,764 James: Hey 2711 02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:45,380 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: take care. 2712 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:47,850 we subject Em- Emily to it as well? 2713 02:02:48,286 --> 02:02:48,676 Gardiner: Oh, yeah. 2714 02:02:50,376 --> 02:02:51,337 Yeah, she's game. 2715 02:02:52,058 --> 02:02:52,738 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: it's a date. 2716 02:02:53,206 --> 02:02:53,696 Gardiner: Yes. 2717 02:02:53,768 --> 02:02:54,388 James: a date 2718 02:02:57,270 --> 02:03:00,360 I'll find something to glue those eyes open, so you hit the watch 2719 02:03:00,962 --> 02:03:01,592 Gardiner: Yeah 2720 02:03:01,648 --> 02:03:03,678 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: should, uh, we're watching it too though, James. 2721 02:03:05,004 --> 02:03:05,864 James: Oh yeah, I'm gonna watch 2722 02:03:06,848 --> 02:03:09,388 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: we, we gotta see how bad this, this ga- we 2723 02:03:09,388 --> 02:03:10,558 gotta see how bad this shit is 2724 02:03:12,110 --> 02:03:12,590 James: Yeah, it's 2725 02:03:12,706 --> 02:03:13,146 Gardiner: Yeah 2726 02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:14,500 James: soccer, so I'll be fine. 2727 02:03:15,884 --> 02:03:16,364 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Wow, wow, 2728 02:03:16,590 --> 02:03:16,740 James: I'm 2729 02:03:16,764 --> 02:03:16,994 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: wow, 2730 02:03:17,180 --> 02:03:18,960 James: k- I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding 2731 02:03:20,538 --> 02:03:20,588 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All right. 2732 02:03:20,588 --> 02:03:23,768 All right, gu- all right, you guys take care now. 2733 02:03:24,114 --> 02:03:25,105 Gardiner: See ya 2734 02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:25,760 James: next week. 2735 02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:26,060 Later 2736 02:03:27,298 --> 02:03:28,338 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: All right, bye 2737 02:03:29,866 --> 02:03:31,326 James: So high tech. 2738 02:03:32,006 --> 02:03:34,506 I don't know if you see this disk warning, but you, it says 2739 02:03:34,506 --> 02:03:36,496 your storage is really low 2740 02:03:37,718 --> 02:03:38,028 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: What? 2741 02:03:39,790 --> 02:03:41,060 James: Says Gardner's is too. 2742 02:03:41,060 --> 02:03:42,320 Do you… What's your guys'? 2743 02:03:42,430 --> 02:03:44,730 Like, it's just, it's for recording, so it records locally 2744 02:03:44,730 --> 02:03:45,820 and then uploads it, right? 2745 02:03:45,820 --> 02:03:50,000 And then it should, uh… it's saying your disk is 2746 02:03:50,016 --> 02:03:50,936 Gardiner: disk is low 2747 02:03:51,070 --> 02:03:52,160 James: you were having some issues 2748 02:03:53,378 --> 02:03:54,148 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: My disk is 2749 02:03:54,154 --> 02:03:57,784 Gardiner: Oh my God, I have two and a half gigabytes left on this. 2750 02:03:57,854 --> 02:04:01,724 What the hell is taking up a full terabyte on this drive? 2751 02:04:01,724 --> 02:04:01,744 Uh, oh 2752 02:04:03,032 --> 02:04:06,492 James: I would say it's not Descript 'cause I still have 200 gigs free. 2753 02:04:07,812 --> 02:04:08,402 And so, 2754 02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:09,840 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: 300 gigs free on 2755 02:04:10,002 --> 02:04:10,562 James: so 2756 02:04:11,020 --> 02:04:11,330 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: drive 2757 02:04:12,472 --> 02:04:13,202 James: interesting. 2758 02:04:13,222 --> 02:04:16,242 I wonder if it's … Is there multiple in that laptop of yours? 2759 02:04:17,146 --> 02:04:20,986 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Yeah, there's another one, but that one has 400 gigs left. 2760 02:04:22,576 --> 02:04:24,496 So in theory, I should have plenty of space 2761 02:04:27,310 --> 02:04:27,980 James: Yeah, I wonder w- 2762 02:04:28,996 --> 02:04:31,986 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: I do have a NAS that's, uh, mount- that's mounted 2763 02:04:31,986 --> 02:04:36,276 as a drive, but I'm not connected to my home network, so like, yeah 2764 02:04:39,312 --> 02:04:40,912 Gardiner: What is taking up all this space? 2765 02:04:41,672 --> 02:04:44,962 James: I'm just wondering why it thinks your storage is so low 2766 02:04:48,308 --> 02:04:53,378 Gardiner: I'm wondering how a website can gauge storage capacity. 2767 02:04:54,048 --> 02:04:56,438 I don't know of any APIs that allow that 2768 02:04:58,098 --> 02:05:03,108 James: Um, it could be a couple of different routes 2769 02:05:03,188 --> 02:05:03,988 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: system load. 2770 02:05:04,328 --> 02:05:06,768 Wait, what's, what's my high system load looking like? 2771 02:05:08,008 --> 02:05:09,288 About to, about to find out 2772 02:05:11,974 --> 02:05:12,674 James: Maybe it's RAM. 2773 02:05:13,134 --> 02:05:16,654 It's just having a hard… It might be trying to guess based on what you're 2774 02:05:16,654 --> 02:05:18,384 trying to do, like what it's trying to do. 2775 02:05:20,090 --> 02:05:20,210 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It 2776 02:05:20,254 --> 02:05:20,804 James: That's cra- 2777 02:05:20,970 --> 02:05:26,380 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: like all of that, all of the noise canceling and stuff due to this 2778 02:05:27,374 --> 02:05:29,354 James: It also dropped your, uh, camera down 2779 02:05:31,682 --> 02:05:32,572 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Like the quality? 2780 02:05:33,870 --> 02:05:34,980 James: Yeah, the 480. 2781 02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:37,240 But then again, you know, I don't think it's 2782 02:05:37,530 --> 02:05:39,160 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: It might just be, I don't know. 2783 02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:45,620 Uh, I mean, my r- I still have six… I, I'm using around, let me see 2784 02:05:47,746 --> 02:05:47,906 I'm 2785 02:05:48,022 --> 02:05:48,422 James: I'm just 2786 02:05:48,526 --> 02:05:53,736 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: around 18 gigs out of my 32 gigs in my, in this PC, in this laptop 2787 02:05:55,064 --> 02:05:57,084 James: I hate to do it, but should I break up the recordings 2788 02:05:57,084 --> 02:05:58,004 just to see if that helps? 2789 02:05:58,004 --> 02:05:59,544 Like just stop recording? 2790 02:06:01,554 --> 02:06:02,114 You could always sw- 2791 02:06:02,308 --> 02:06:03,528 Hi-Tech Lo-Life: Let's, let's stop it real quick