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Satya Nadella from Microsoft wants you to
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stop calling it AI Slop because it hurts
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his little CEO Fifi's.
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Hmm. I agree. We should call it something
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else. Like AI dog sh**.
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I mean, did we stop calling
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it AI Slop as per Mr. Nadella?
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Well, he wants us to call it cognitive
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amplifier tools because he had a rib
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removed last week so
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we could f**k himself even harder. Well,
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I mean, this is not the bonus episode.
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That is good. We
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needed a cold open, guys.
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome to Off
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the Console. This is the hottest podcast
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that's all about 2026 gaming. It's about
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2026 text news, 2026 anything.
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We're covering the biggest 2026 news,
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including, let's see, what
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do we got? We have some CES
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updates, which look, you know, CES is
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happening like this weekend, right?
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This week. It happens
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after the episode comes out.
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Yeah. And we have also got some Steam
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charts, some GOG news
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and a whole lot more.
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Dudes, I'm excited about this week. This
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is going to be a good one.
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This is the first episode
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of 2026, if you couldn't tell by the
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intro. Yeah. We like to start off this
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show with what we've
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been doing over the week. And I don't
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know, James, let's start
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with you. What have you
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been doing this week? I checked out of
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life, essentially, and not
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the... Yeah, I should have
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rephrased that a little differently, but
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no, I checked out and
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played Outer Worlds 2. I've put
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40 something hours into it in the last
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week, less than a week. And so I put
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like, that's all I've
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been doing. I've been ignoring Discord.
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I've been ignoring everything
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else and just vibing through
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that game. I love open world games that
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are like Fallout and I
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like Elder Scrolls, but it
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doesn't quite catch me as much as a good
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like sci-fi, especially
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like Outer Worlds, which is
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space sci-fi. And they're the same guys
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that made the Fallout New
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Vegas game. So just for some
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context there. And they were so bitter
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not being able to make
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another Fallout New Vegas game,
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I believe, that they essentially made
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Outer Worlds is what they
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wanted to do. So you can
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definitely tell there's some inspiration
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in Outer Worlds from Fallout
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New Vegas. Even some of the
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creatures like Bloatflies are in I think
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New Vegas. I think there
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might also be in Fallout 3, but
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is one of the creatures that you attack
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and they have something similar in
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Outer Worlds. So a lot of parallels. I
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think the game's actually
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really good. It's really
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deep story. I wish it would have gotten
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more attention this year,
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but there were so many other
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good games that kind of overshadowed it.
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got like as many good ratings
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as it should have. Because so far I'm
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playing it. It's really good.
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It's not a whole lot different
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than the first one, but it is as far as
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bugs, as far as like
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visuals, it is definitely a huge
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upgrade over the first one. And the story
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is rich. I love it. Like
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those types of stories.
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Like it's a rich world. You can go
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through, explore, do it
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the way you want to do it.
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And that's how I like. Yeah. So that's
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what I've been doing at a world.
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That's awesome. What
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have you been up there?
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Not so much gaming as I have been trying
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to hunt to finally upgrade
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my computer. And I couldn't
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have picked a worse time to do it. No.
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This is the worst year.
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earlier this year, but graphics card
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prices were way higher.
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They were higher than they are now, for
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sure. But, you know, are they? They were.
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I think everything's bumping up.
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Really shit. Oh, availability. You're not
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wrong there. Like it was
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really hard to get a graphics
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card at the beginning of the year. Yeah.
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And. 25 had I been able to
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get a secure a graphics card of
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any kind, I would have upgraded sooner
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and it wouldn't have to
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pay an arm and a leg for RAM.
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Thankfully, it seems like Micro Center
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might have some deals. You
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guys live near Micro Center? No.
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Thankfully, I have a brother that does.
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because he's also interested in upgrade
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as well in his computer.
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Is there a Micro Center in Vegas?
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I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure there's one
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in Vegas. Let's find out.
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Yeah, I'm trying to. It's either Denver
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or Vegas. That's the closest one to me.
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According to and that's not correct. I
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was going to say
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according to their website,
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the closest one to me is Columbus, Ohio.
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But I think there's one in Boston.
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That's crazy. Yeah.
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How far is Boston from
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you? It's about five hours.
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The closest one to me is
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like two hours away in near DC.
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Oh, that's not far. I could theoretically
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make the drive up, but I
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also have a brother that lives
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in Fairfax. So yeah, my the closest one
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to me is in Cambridge,
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Massachusetts, which is like
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180 miles from my home. Oh, look at that.
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You guys both live closer. I
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Vegas five hours than Denver is. Oh, I don't even know. I don't make that drive. That's a
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rough drive. I'm just saying microsonics
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and sponsors. I've worked
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with my microcenter before.
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I like microcenter. I guess. Well, I
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haven't gotten anything from them,
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so I don't know if I like them. I like
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their stores. I've been
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to microcenter like I like
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microcenter. I just wish a little closer
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to one. Maybe they
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should open one in my town.
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Yeah, that'd be nice. They need to open one in Southern.
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They need to open one in. I'll do a whole
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video for microcenter. Yada, yada, yada.
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But yeah, they have good deals like to.
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That's the nice thing about
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microcenter is that sometimes
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you just walk in and get a really good
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deal. But yeah, that's
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what I've been doing the past
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New Year's been having some celebrations
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and having a terrible
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time finding PC parts for
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cheap. Well, Ram, particularly everything
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else is OK except for GPUs, but.
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But GPUs are starting to go up. I'm
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reading some stuff that
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we're probably going to start
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seeing $5,000 five nights.
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Guys, which at this point.
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Interesting. Go ahead. No, it's OK. At
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this point, I feel like
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Nvidia is just going to be like, you know
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what? Our generational name
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is going to be the same price.
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Like so the 6000 series is going to be
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$6,000. Yeah. So I'm my I'm
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looking at like the way the
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market's going and I'm like, it's
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literally not worth it
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anymore. Like to buy a discrete GPU,
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like the return on investment is like
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negative. You know, it's not
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like I don't know. It's like,
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why not just get an APU? Well, the
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problem is that they don't sell APUs for
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desktops. Decent ones.
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Anyways, like like if they made a Strix
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Halo CPU could sock it, I'd
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probably just get that instead.
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They don't make that. I bet you that no,
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no, there's no that's no
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there's no desktop socketable
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Strix Halo APUs. Like the framework
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desktop is soldered on to the
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motherboard and also like the
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Mini's forum stuff, too. To get one of
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those. Yeah, I don't want to have you
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bought any option now
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parts yet. No, I was going to, but I
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might have locked onto a deal, but I'm not going to tell you
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tell anyone about it because I want to
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buy it. You've waited too
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long. You're going to have a
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fun time this year. God damn it. I need
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to upgrade. I have an old, like I have a
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3090 at least. So it's
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lasting me, but it's the computers like
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four or five years old and
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I'll probably wait it out.
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I couldn't have picked the worst time to
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wait until the companies
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decide GPUs are not, you know,
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that are they're just going to I think
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they're going to kill
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this. I couldn't have picked a
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worst time, but hey, CES is around the
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corner. You know what that means? What's
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what have I been doing?
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Oh shit, Gardner, what have you been
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doing? I have been actually kind of in a
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similar boat to you,
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high tech a little bit, at least with RAM
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prices because Mini's
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forum sent me this. This is the
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the their motherboard. What is it called?
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The BBD895ISE and it
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has a Ryzen 9 HX in it.
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Oh, is that Strix Halo?
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Oh yes, son. Oh my god.
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And it's got the Radeon 890M GPU in it.
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See, they didn't even make
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that a desktop socketable CPU.
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AMD, but AMD won't for some reason. I
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don't know why. Well, they don't want to
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cannibalize their own
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like exorbitantly priced GPU discrete.
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This is why the GPU market's so messed up
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because AMD won't do
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anything. Not only. Dude, in a healthy
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economy, AMD would be like,
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oh, they're screwing over their
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customers. We'll cut our prices instead
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of increasing them.
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Well, they're cousins. So,
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but I mean, so I've been I've been
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working on this. I'm going
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to review this pretty soon.
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I have, whoops, I have some, I'm like
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scrounging for RAM from other
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devices to actually test this
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thing. But what was the other thing that
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I've been doing? Oh, dude, okay. So
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remember, I moved over
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to that minutes form and five. Nass.
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Yeah, how has it been? Dude,
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okay, so it is awesome. It's a
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really great device. But I keep fucking
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up the hardware, the
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software on it. And I thought that
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I had lost all of my stuff again. I
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didn't. But like some so someone came
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into my discord, and
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I'm not blaming them. This is entirely on
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me. But someone came into
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my discord and they're like,
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Gardner, I saw you had an N5. How have
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you dealt with this problem
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in Proxmox? And I was like, oh,
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I haven't because I I'm running Proxmox
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eight. And I was like, well,
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I'll just update to nine. It
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shouldn't be that big of an issue, right?
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Oh, brother, was that a
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huge issue? Because I had like
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made my GPU like the APU GPU portion of
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the thing as like a shared resource,
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which meant that the
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kernel never like attached to it or
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loaded the driver. So like,
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oh, there was no, you know, like,
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video output. And so when during the
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update upgrade process, everything looked
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like it had finished
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successfully. And then I like rebooted
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the machine. And it failed to boot. And
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there was I there, I
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didn't have like serial output, and I
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didn't have video output. So
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it was just like a, you know,
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completely headless box with no way to
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interface with it. And the
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web GUI didn't load either. So
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yeah, no SSH, no nothing. So I had to
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just reinstall Proxmox. And I had to
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like, reimport all of my VMs,
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which was interesting, because I've never
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had to do that before. So
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anyway, that took up all day
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Thursday and most of the morning Friday.
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I'm very concerned that I
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lost a bunch of data. But
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well, I'm glad your your stuff's back up
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and that you managed to recover it. Yeah.
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It might not be a bad use case to get a
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second NAS for that. Yeah,
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you get your you get your old
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server, right? That's been
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decommissioned. Oh, might be I could
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hypothetically, like bring it
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back up, but I'd need to buy five more
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drives. And I don't have
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the budget for that right now.
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Yeah, makes sense. Minis forums, mini
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forums, send us some, send
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us some now we can do that
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offsite backup plan that we've always
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had. Yeah, minis forum. I'm
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gonna ask them to do that. I
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did ask them once and they were receptive
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to the idea. But they said
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that they didn't have the
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problem was that they didn't have any of
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the N five in their
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warehouse. They were all at Amazon's
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warehouse or something. And so I had to
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buy the one and then they
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reimbursed me for it. So
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I mean, if the offer is still on the
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table, we could do that.
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Yeah, I'd be sick. That would be so sick.
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I do it. I do it. Anything I
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get usually that's at least
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interesting. I will. Yeah. Hell yeah.
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It's definitely in that realm. And I'll
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buy some drives too.
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Yeah. It's I mean, dude, having offsite
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backups would be awesome.
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Excuse me. But yeah, anyway,
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so that's what I've been doing. And this
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week, we've got some
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interesting stuff going on.
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Let's get into the show proper. But
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before we do, make
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We have like 750 or something
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subscribers. And we're trying to get to
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1000. Because that's like
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a nice round decimal number. Yeah. Yeah,
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we were trying to get to
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1000. I think last year, right?
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Yeah. And I mean, we're close, right?
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Very close. We're very close.
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And that's pretty neat. And so
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don't remember what it is. What is it?
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The Discord? So the
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Patreon, that's it. The Patreon,
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If you have a question over there, too,
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we'll 100% answer on the show, too. And
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more goodies as well. And join the
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Oh, yes, join the Discord. We have a
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be links to all of this down
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below. All right. Now, let's get on to
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the actual topics this week. And the
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first one is CES 2026.
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It's literally starting today when you're
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watching this. Hi, tech,
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tell us what we can expect from
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CES. Well, we can expect a lot of AI
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stuff, a lot of robots, but more
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importantly, a lot of computer
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parts and computers and like stuff like
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that. So I mean, like you
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said, by the time this episode
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airs, CES will have already started media
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only. So I guess we won't
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know until that day. We won't
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know what's happening until the day of.
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So we won't be able to talk
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about it till next episode.
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But if you look at the if you go to the
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other link card, that's in that topic,
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you can actually search for who's going
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to be there. Press exhibit directory.
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Exhibit directory on the on the left.
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It's the big button. Yeah. And I'm
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assuming you don't want
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to search through all of this so you can
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filter by categories or by
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name. So I've confirmed at the
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very least that Lenovo is going to be
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there. Well, Lenovo is like
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it is pretty much confirmed
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at this point. The leak is that they're
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going to be having the
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Legion go to SteamOS version.
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Yeah, now it's going to be there. We
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should be seeing this. Yeah,
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we should be seeing a SteamOS
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version, which is like kind of funny that
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that mean they just slap
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SteamOS onto it. I don't know
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if it needs to be showcased, but
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apparently that video is going to be
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there, too. AMD is not going
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to be there, though, surprisingly. Or or
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maybe they're going by
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their full name, Advanced Micro.
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Oh, there will be there. Oh, never mind.
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I don't know why they didn't
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go by just a while. I guess
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they are technically advanced micro
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devices. They always I
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think they always go by advanced
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micro devices for these types of things.
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Valve, I really doubt it.
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It's not it's not there.
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Oh, well, who knows? Valve may be both.
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Valve may be going with
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Lenovo like they did last year,
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if you recall. True, because they didn't
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go by themselves, but I
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was hoping that they would
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showcase maybe the Steam Machine or
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something. You really about would
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showcase anything at an expo.
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They could have shown off. They could
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have shown off Half Life 3 at the game
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awards and they didn't.
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No, I know. But hardware is a little
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different getting people to
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have hands on it, but they did
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at their their place. So they really like
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that control, man. That's
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the only as well as things
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where I wish Valve would play a little
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bit more with other people
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better. But I don't know if
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it's a control thing or if it's just
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these events maybe ask too much. Who
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knows? I mean, I think
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events like this require a little too
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much planning and Valve is more seated
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pants. That is true.
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I mean, I'll make the booth for them.
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I'll I had two weeks that I
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did. I worked on my video game
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and I played video games. I would have
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spent that time making
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their booth for them.
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Valve, I'll do it. Honestly, if I knew
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Valve was like I was pretty sure Valve
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was going to be there
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like maybe, you know, adjacent to Lenovo.
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But if Valve was there for
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sure, I would have been in CS.
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But the closer I got, I was like, I don't
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want to make this the five
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hour drive to Vegas to go to
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Vegas to go to CS this year, because I
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just didn't nothing
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sounded overly interesting.
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I thought about going to CS because I got
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invited by like Minus
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Forum and a couple other
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little like mini PC manufacturers. And I
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don't know, I'm already
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going to Fostem in Brussels
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at the end of this month. So I didn't I
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didn't fly twice in January.
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That sounded like it would suck.
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I'm going to be going for work in a
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couple weeks. So it's another reason me.
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Brussels is in Berlin. I mean, in in
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Belgium. Oh, yeah. Belgium, Germany.
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It's all European me did. Yeah. They just
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wear slightly different clothes.
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I'm also going to scale in in March. So
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what's that scale
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Southern California Linux Expo.
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Oh, that's in Cali. I can't
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go to Cali. That's too far.
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Pasadena, son. I can
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pass a demon besides scale.
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Uh, I don't know. Hippies, probably.
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That's California is great. I like
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California. People give it to much crime.
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I'm glad that it's not at the LA
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Convention Center like it was or not. It
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wasn't at the convention.
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It was at another place. And last year
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and I or the last time I went
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and I was like not impressed.
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But LA is also not walkable at all. Like
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it you walk on the it's
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not drivable either. It's
533
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it's not it's not drivable. That's the
534
00:20:25,866 --> 00:20:27,133
only problem with the only.
535
00:20:28,233 --> 00:20:31,733
Yeah, I went to LA and I was like I was
536
00:20:31,733 --> 00:20:35,033
like so disgusted. Like I
537
00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:37,500
mean, just like I tried walking
538
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:42,166
down the street and it was like a five
539
00:20:42,166 --> 00:20:44,666
lane road and I was walking on the
540
00:20:44,666 --> 00:20:46,099
sidewalk and I felt unsafe.
541
00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:48,799
I was like, how is this even possible?
542
00:20:49,133 --> 00:20:50,833
How many paparazzis were stalking you?
543
00:20:52,233 --> 00:20:54,466
None. I don't have paparazzi, thankfully.
544
00:20:55,433 --> 00:20:59,533
Yeah. So I do. I mean, LA is so
545
00:21:00,966 --> 00:21:02,466
it's so divided in the sense of like
546
00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:03,266
there's areas where you're
547
00:21:03,266 --> 00:21:04,166
like you're pretty safe to
548
00:21:04,166 --> 00:21:06,166
walk other places. I think even it's
549
00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:07,166
overblown. Even this place
550
00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:08,266
that aren't safe to walk like
551
00:21:08,266 --> 00:21:09,599
you're probably safe in the in the
552
00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:14,200
daytime. But it's so dirty. It's like
553
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,533
what Vegas is cleaner
554
00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:18,933
than than LA is nowadays. It's
555
00:21:18,933 --> 00:21:20,833
unfortunate. But you know, car industry,
556
00:21:21,099 --> 00:21:22,533
man, it's the car industry.
557
00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:27,433
Yeah, yeah. I mean, Vegas sounds fun. My
558
00:21:27,433 --> 00:21:28,266
brother went to Vegas
559
00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:29,566
many years ago to watch
560
00:21:30,966 --> 00:21:33,200
Floyd Mayweather versus Manny Pacquiao.
561
00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:35,000
He said the fight
562
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,233
sucked because but he got to
563
00:21:37,366 --> 00:21:40,266
gamble there. So that was OK for him. I
564
00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:41,433
do want to go to Vegas soon.
565
00:21:42,066 --> 00:21:44,900
Oh, have you guys you've been to Vegas,
566
00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:46,033
though, right? I've never been before.
567
00:21:46,266 --> 00:21:47,900
Carter, but oh, neither.
568
00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:49,033
Yeah, I haven't been either.
569
00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:50,933
Well, I've been told many times that
570
00:21:50,933 --> 00:21:51,866
we'll have a new way to go.
571
00:21:51,866 --> 00:21:53,533
To some point, though, my brother is
572
00:21:53,533 --> 00:21:54,933
insisting on going to Vegas,
573
00:21:54,933 --> 00:21:56,333
but it just hasn't happened.
574
00:21:58,033 --> 00:21:59,200
Maybe we just need to make the plan to go
575
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,033
to the next year. Yes.
576
00:22:00,633 --> 00:22:02,833
Yeah. Too many kids that my
577
00:22:02,833 --> 00:22:03,766
brothers have to deal with.
578
00:22:05,433 --> 00:22:06,666
I can show you the ropes there. I know
579
00:22:06,666 --> 00:22:08,166
Vegas fairly well, at least
580
00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:09,033
where a lot of the convention.
581
00:22:09,033 --> 00:22:10,933
Well, depends on where the conventions
582
00:22:10,933 --> 00:22:11,733
are, but if it's
583
00:22:11,733 --> 00:22:13,366
downtown Vegas, then I know it.
584
00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:14,766
So are there any other companies that we
585
00:22:14,766 --> 00:22:16,733
should know about that are going to CES?
586
00:22:17,333 --> 00:22:17,900
That's what I'm curious
587
00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:20,633
about. There's a lot of many forum.
588
00:22:20,966 --> 00:22:23,966
Oh, many forum. See, if I would have
589
00:22:23,966 --> 00:22:25,033
would have been like if I was
590
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,166
good at my doing this whole social
591
00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:29,666
content creation thing,
592
00:22:29,666 --> 00:22:33,700
then I would grow like a
593
00:22:33,766 --> 00:22:35,033
connection with one of these companies
594
00:22:35,033 --> 00:22:36,866
and go, but I'd like to go to if I was
595
00:22:36,866 --> 00:22:37,500
invited, I would have
596
00:22:37,533 --> 00:22:40,833
gone. Maybe it's minis and then space
597
00:22:40,833 --> 00:22:44,033
forums. Yeah, I don't think so.
598
00:22:45,333 --> 00:22:47,533
Huh, so many. I think it's like mini.
599
00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:50,700
HK micro computer or something like that.
600
00:22:52,099 --> 00:22:56,500
I see a lot of like a parent company.
601
00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:01,666
Let's see. Does a does Mies form have
602
00:23:01,666 --> 00:23:02,466
like a parent company?
603
00:23:02,733 --> 00:23:04,933
Shenzhen, Shenzhen, HC, HKC.
604
00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:07,500
It's one. I don't
605
00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:08,900
know. It's one of those.
606
00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:11,299
Let me look at this box here.
607
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:13,966
There's also product categories, too. We
608
00:23:13,966 --> 00:23:15,200
can look at company. We can
609
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,666
also sort companies by that.
610
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:19,566
Gaming and eSports is a
611
00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:21,333
company that you can do.
612
00:23:23,033 --> 00:23:25,299
Gaming and yeah, go to
613
00:23:25,299 --> 00:23:26,133
filter by categories.
614
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,200
Is it going to be
615
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,166
interesting? Yeah, to a degree.
616
00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:35,266
To a degree. You can see.
617
00:23:35,566 --> 00:23:35,900
Depends on what you
618
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:36,833
find interesting, James.
619
00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:39,333
Yeah, I don't know
620
00:23:39,333 --> 00:23:40,166
any of these companies.
621
00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:42,133
You can go to Atari hotels.
622
00:23:43,066 --> 00:23:44,466
Atari hotels. Let's stay
623
00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:45,966
at an Atari hotel, guys.
624
00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:48,266
What does Atari hotels have?
625
00:23:48,833 --> 00:23:49,233
It's a.
626
00:23:49,766 --> 00:23:50,866
If it has a capital.
627
00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:52,700
Does it have a Atari 2600?
628
00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,700
It's like the new Chuck E. Cheese, guys.
629
00:23:55,966 --> 00:23:56,966
It's for adults. Chuck
630
00:23:56,966 --> 00:23:57,566
E. Cheese for adults.
631
00:23:58,166 --> 00:23:59,733
Nolan Bushnell founded
632
00:23:59,733 --> 00:24:01,066
Chuck E. Cheese and Atari.
633
00:24:01,466 --> 00:24:02,766
So it's the same thing.
634
00:24:03,533 --> 00:24:03,733
Really?
635
00:24:04,066 --> 00:24:04,566
You didn't know that?
636
00:24:05,166 --> 00:24:05,400
No.
637
00:24:06,866 --> 00:24:08,166
You act like that should
638
00:24:08,166 --> 00:24:09,599
be a common thing, Tom.
639
00:24:10,099 --> 00:24:11,766
Nolan Bushnell, man.
640
00:24:12,066 --> 00:24:13,433
I didn't know the name either.
641
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:15,633
Oh, wait. No, no. Nolan Bushnell founded
642
00:24:15,633 --> 00:24:16,566
Activision. I'm sorry.
643
00:24:17,233 --> 00:24:17,433
Not.
644
00:24:18,466 --> 00:24:18,799
Wait.
645
00:24:19,966 --> 00:24:20,766
They both start with A.
646
00:24:21,233 --> 00:24:22,766
Bywin is there. Bywin's going to be
647
00:24:22,766 --> 00:24:23,666
there. The guys that make
648
00:24:23,666 --> 00:24:26,233
that sim card looking SSD.
649
00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:28,366
Oh, yeah.
650
00:24:29,933 --> 00:24:31,200
Let's see. It wasn't going to be there.
651
00:24:32,133 --> 00:24:33,466
Jsocks is going to be there.
652
00:24:34,766 --> 00:24:36,099
Oh, both are going to be there.
653
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:37,599
Hmm.
654
00:24:38,366 --> 00:24:38,633
Yeah.
655
00:24:39,866 --> 00:24:41,333
So I'm kind of here.
656
00:24:41,533 --> 00:24:42,433
These are guys that are
657
00:24:42,433 --> 00:24:44,599
going to have like booths, too.
658
00:24:44,866 --> 00:24:46,666
Like what is Discord do?
659
00:24:46,866 --> 00:24:49,133
Because CES is more
660
00:24:49,133 --> 00:24:50,633
hardware than it is software.
661
00:24:50,633 --> 00:24:51,133
I'm kind of.
662
00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:53,133
Obviously, they're going to make like the
663
00:24:53,133 --> 00:24:54,133
Discord thin client.
664
00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:58,933
Yeah, they're not doing that.
665
00:24:59,233 --> 00:25:00,033
That'd be a good thing.
666
00:25:01,266 --> 00:25:02,799
But that would hurt their bottom line.
667
00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:04,766
Oh, look. We have
668
00:25:04,766 --> 00:25:06,333
Vtuber companies there, too.
669
00:25:07,633 --> 00:25:08,533
Gakugeki Inc.
670
00:25:10,299 --> 00:25:11,000
Arias.
671
00:25:11,733 --> 00:25:12,233
Wait, is it going to
672
00:25:12,233 --> 00:25:13,533
be in the Aria or by?
673
00:25:13,933 --> 00:25:14,666
So it sounds like it's
674
00:25:14,666 --> 00:25:15,533
going to be broken up a lot.
675
00:25:15,533 --> 00:25:16,599
They're going to be in the Aria.
676
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:17,533
What's the Aria?
677
00:25:19,166 --> 00:25:20,900
It's one of the big hotels there.
678
00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:21,933
Ooh, Genki.
679
00:25:22,466 --> 00:25:22,966
It's going to be there.
680
00:25:23,266 --> 00:25:23,500
Oh, God.
681
00:25:23,533 --> 00:25:24,166
Sounds like they're going
682
00:25:24,166 --> 00:25:25,500
to be in multiple hotels.
683
00:25:26,299 --> 00:25:26,500
Random.
684
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:27,566
Oh, dude.
685
00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:31,966
Aria is awesome.
686
00:25:32,266 --> 00:25:35,033
That's a really good hotel to stay at.
687
00:25:36,866 --> 00:25:38,166
I think it's the one that has the remote.
688
00:25:38,633 --> 00:25:39,633
Like, yeah, the remote for
689
00:25:39,633 --> 00:25:40,466
the windows and everything.
690
00:25:40,466 --> 00:25:41,000
It's going to be there.
691
00:25:41,433 --> 00:25:43,299
The HDMI forum is going to be there, too.
692
00:25:45,366 --> 00:25:45,666
Yikes.
693
00:25:46,433 --> 00:25:47,866
Well, I mean, dude,
694
00:25:47,866 --> 00:25:49,833
like I don't I don't know.
695
00:25:49,833 --> 00:25:51,266
Well, I think we'll have more to talk
696
00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:53,166
about next week when after the
697
00:25:53,833 --> 00:25:55,000
whole event's over.
698
00:25:55,366 --> 00:25:55,933
Yeah, because there's a lot
699
00:25:55,933 --> 00:25:57,700
of there's a lot to go through.
700
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,766
As it seems right now, launch checks
701
00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:02,366
going to be there with their audio cards.
702
00:26:02,833 --> 00:26:03,200
Can't wait.
703
00:26:03,733 --> 00:26:05,833
As it stands right now, though, we have
704
00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:08,266
something to talk about the best of 2025.
705
00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:09,666
The results are in.
706
00:26:09,666 --> 00:26:11,166
And if you voted on Steam.
707
00:26:12,566 --> 00:26:12,766
Right.
708
00:26:13,166 --> 00:26:15,099
This is in the Steam Awards.
709
00:26:15,333 --> 00:26:16,466
This is sales.
710
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,933
Oh, oh, oh, yes, yes, yes.
711
00:26:20,233 --> 00:26:20,966
Best sellers.
712
00:26:20,966 --> 00:26:21,566
Oh, interesting.
713
00:26:22,966 --> 00:26:24,266
Has the Steam Awards happened?
714
00:26:26,066 --> 00:26:27,733
Wait, when does when does it end?
715
00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:32,366
Because January the third at 1 p.m.
716
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,866
Oh, weird.
717
00:26:34,466 --> 00:26:35,466
So at 1 p.m.
718
00:26:36,233 --> 00:26:38,166
So like after this podcast ends, the
719
00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:39,000
voting will include.
720
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,433
I guess we have an
721
00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:40,433
opportunity by next week.
722
00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:41,133
No.
723
00:26:42,533 --> 00:26:45,133
Um, I'm surprised
724
00:26:45,133 --> 00:26:47,233
Oblivion was so popular.
725
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:48,433
Well, remember, people
726
00:26:48,433 --> 00:26:49,766
thought that Oblivion would kill
727
00:26:49,933 --> 00:26:51,033
Expedition 33's
728
00:26:51,033 --> 00:26:52,833
chances of selling anything.
729
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:54,099
If you recall.
730
00:26:55,233 --> 00:26:57,400
I don't think Shadow
731
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,833
Drop on the same day.
732
00:27:00,166 --> 00:27:01,666
Yeah, it's Shadow Drop.
733
00:27:01,666 --> 00:27:02,833
But that's the problem with Shadow Drop.
734
00:27:02,833 --> 00:27:03,566
They did probably hurt it.
735
00:27:03,566 --> 00:27:05,266
But like at the end of the day, a good
736
00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:06,466
game is going to out, you
737
00:27:06,466 --> 00:27:07,333
know, it's going to shine.
738
00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:08,066
Wasn't.
739
00:27:08,066 --> 00:27:10,000
No, I'm pretty sure
740
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,533
people waited until now.
741
00:27:11,533 --> 00:27:12,666
That's probably why it was bought right
742
00:27:12,666 --> 00:27:13,533
here is because people
743
00:27:13,533 --> 00:27:14,599
wait until now to buy.
744
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:14,799
Yes.
745
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,366
So true that true that wasn't the
746
00:27:16,366 --> 00:27:17,066
performance like
747
00:27:17,066 --> 00:27:18,033
garbage when it launched.
748
00:27:19,033 --> 00:27:21,766
Yeah, it was OK.
749
00:27:22,633 --> 00:27:23,533
It's Elder Scrolls.
750
00:27:23,766 --> 00:27:24,166
I don't know.
751
00:27:24,166 --> 00:27:26,766
I don't know why people expect Elder
752
00:27:26,766 --> 00:27:28,633
Scrolls to be different than what it is.
753
00:27:28,933 --> 00:27:29,766
Here's my question.
754
00:27:29,766 --> 00:27:31,299
Was the Elder Scrolls ever good?
755
00:27:32,266 --> 00:27:33,766
Because like playing some Bethesda's
756
00:27:33,766 --> 00:27:34,966
recent games have made me
757
00:27:34,966 --> 00:27:36,200
not allowed in terms of like
758
00:27:36,733 --> 00:27:38,400
the games, because playing some of the
759
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,166
recent games have made me question if
760
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,766
I ever really liked Bethesda ever.
761
00:27:43,766 --> 00:27:45,566
I honestly have never played a Bethesda
762
00:27:45,566 --> 00:27:46,366
game that I've liked.
763
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:51,000
I'm different.
764
00:27:51,333 --> 00:27:52,166
I don't like the Elder
765
00:27:52,166 --> 00:27:53,133
Scrolls series that much.
766
00:27:53,366 --> 00:27:54,966
Skyrim is the only one I've beat, and I
767
00:27:54,966 --> 00:27:55,666
did play a lot of it.
768
00:27:55,666 --> 00:27:57,233
It was fun to have dragons drop out of
769
00:27:57,233 --> 00:27:58,433
the sky and eat your face.
770
00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:00,566
That was interesting.
771
00:28:01,766 --> 00:28:03,866
The lore was much better as far as a
772
00:28:03,866 --> 00:28:07,666
fantasy, but yeah, I just
773
00:28:07,666 --> 00:28:09,333
could never finish Oblivion or.
774
00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:10,866
So yeah, look at that.
775
00:28:10,866 --> 00:28:13,133
We have a Fallout series, though, is my.
776
00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:15,433
So we look at the Platinum series.
777
00:28:15,466 --> 00:28:17,933
We have a couple of games that we
778
00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:19,799
expected to sell pretty well.
779
00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:21,866
FIFA, Battlefield,
780
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:24,333
Borderlands, Arc Raiders.
781
00:28:26,333 --> 00:28:27,666
And then we have Arc Raiders.
782
00:28:27,666 --> 00:28:29,766
I think it was the best selling Steam
783
00:28:29,766 --> 00:28:30,799
game from my understanding.
784
00:28:31,633 --> 00:28:33,266
Article wise, like I read an article that
785
00:28:33,266 --> 00:28:35,333
yeah, it's based on revenue, too.
786
00:28:35,566 --> 00:28:37,033
It's not based on copies sold.
787
00:28:38,033 --> 00:28:39,366
So it's even more impressive when
788
00:28:39,366 --> 00:28:41,666
Silksong makes it on the list like this.
789
00:28:42,033 --> 00:28:43,466
Yeah, that is crazy.
790
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:46,966
I am not shocked by that.
791
00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:49,766
Well, it's like the fact is it's sort of
792
00:28:49,766 --> 00:28:51,033
my revenue, like high tech said.
793
00:28:51,033 --> 00:28:54,733
So it's like this game sold maybe twice
794
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:56,466
as many or even more
795
00:28:56,466 --> 00:28:57,400
copies as some of the other
796
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,066
ones on here based on its price.
797
00:28:59,066 --> 00:28:59,866
Yeah, you'd have to
798
00:28:59,866 --> 00:29:01,133
make that revenue, right?
799
00:29:01,833 --> 00:29:04,066
Yeah, but it's going up against like
800
00:29:04,066 --> 00:29:06,266
games that are selling for 70 freaking
801
00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:07,933
dollars and it's 20.
802
00:29:10,233 --> 00:29:10,933
Yeah, let's look at
803
00:29:10,933 --> 00:29:12,066
some other games here, too.
804
00:29:12,066 --> 00:29:13,533
We've got let's go to gold.
805
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,233
We've got I thought people didn't like
806
00:29:18,233 --> 00:29:19,833
Assassin's Creed Chat is what happened.
807
00:29:20,233 --> 00:29:22,933
I thought we were boycotting because I
808
00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:24,033
thought people boycott
809
00:29:24,033 --> 00:29:25,266
because there was a black guy in
810
00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:28,933
the game. Oh, was that too spicy for 12?
811
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:31,799
Don't listen to anything.
812
00:29:32,133 --> 00:29:33,366
No, Twitter says
813
00:29:33,366 --> 00:29:34,466
because they're all idiots.
814
00:29:35,133 --> 00:29:38,033
Yeah, honestly, we talked about how
815
00:29:38,033 --> 00:29:40,066
stupid Twitter is in the bonus show.
816
00:29:40,733 --> 00:29:41,266
And YouTube.
817
00:29:41,266 --> 00:29:42,466
There's some of YouTube videos on it.
818
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:44,166
It's funny because people go down in the
819
00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:45,200
theories like crazy like
820
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,233
it's a grift, of course.
821
00:29:47,566 --> 00:29:49,500
But like, did guys just enjoy the
822
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:51,233
freaking games and just
823
00:29:51,233 --> 00:29:53,333
move on like it's a game.
824
00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:53,833
Digimon's up there.
825
00:29:54,099 --> 00:29:54,566
People have creativity.
826
00:29:55,233 --> 00:29:56,233
Times changes up there.
827
00:29:56,233 --> 00:29:56,833
That's pretty sick.
828
00:29:58,866 --> 00:29:59,733
It's a pretty cool game.
829
00:30:00,033 --> 00:30:00,633
Digimon where?
830
00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:01,366
Right there.
831
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:02,500
Digimon times changes.
832
00:30:03,866 --> 00:30:05,166
I couldn't I didn't
833
00:30:05,166 --> 00:30:06,366
even see the text there.
834
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,533
They that that is a horror.
835
00:30:09,733 --> 00:30:11,366
They really got to fix that artwork.
836
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:13,000
That is really bad.
837
00:30:13,033 --> 00:30:14,400
There's nothing legible.
838
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,166
You can't read it.
839
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:15,900
Fought.
840
00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:19,133
It's almost to make it bigger.
841
00:30:19,133 --> 00:30:19,766
Yeah, I agree.
842
00:30:19,766 --> 00:30:20,233
The titles.
843
00:30:21,066 --> 00:30:22,633
The title needs to be bigger, but also
844
00:30:22,633 --> 00:30:26,933
like, like, I don't know, like the image,
845
00:30:26,933 --> 00:30:28,000
like the people in it.
846
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,733
I don't even know what I'm looking at.
847
00:30:31,766 --> 00:30:32,033
Yeah.
848
00:30:33,099 --> 00:30:33,533
Split fiction.
849
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,099
To be fair, though, they're using that.
850
00:30:35,533 --> 00:30:38,433
That's crazy that you have games that
851
00:30:38,433 --> 00:30:40,366
aren't even on sale that are like,
852
00:30:41,533 --> 00:30:42,333
getting the high end.
853
00:30:42,533 --> 00:30:44,433
Enjoy Europa a game.
854
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:46,633
It looks like The Sims, to be honest.
855
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:50,299
If my friend Carl has over a thousand
856
00:30:50,299 --> 00:30:52,433
hours in Europa universe, Alice five.
857
00:30:54,299 --> 00:30:55,666
Oh, is it good?
858
00:30:58,333 --> 00:30:59,066
Apparently, it's good.
859
00:30:59,333 --> 00:31:00,266
He's he's into those
860
00:31:00,266 --> 00:31:01,700
like grand strategy games.
861
00:31:02,566 --> 00:31:04,366
Oh, and then we have so I was happy to
862
00:31:04,366 --> 00:31:07,133
see Civ seven in here, but yeah.
863
00:31:07,633 --> 00:31:08,133
Civ seven.
864
00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:09,166
I haven't played it at all.
865
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,566
I didn't even know it came out this year
866
00:31:11,566 --> 00:31:13,533
until a couple of weeks ago.
867
00:31:13,933 --> 00:31:16,033
I've heard not great.
868
00:31:16,266 --> 00:31:17,799
I went and looked at the reviews and like
869
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:18,700
people playing it and
870
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:19,433
it doesn't sound like
871
00:31:19,433 --> 00:31:20,533
it was that good, but they
872
00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:21,500
complain about every year.
873
00:31:21,866 --> 00:31:24,033
Every time there's a release, you can't
874
00:31:24,033 --> 00:31:26,266
really make the Civ people happy.
875
00:31:26,566 --> 00:31:27,400
So let's look at silver.
876
00:31:28,933 --> 00:31:30,400
Silver's got some interesting ones.
877
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,033
We've got Delta room.
878
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:33,466
We've got the Last of
879
00:31:33,466 --> 00:31:35,133
Us part two remastered.
880
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:37,633
We've got where wins meet.
881
00:31:39,333 --> 00:31:41,299
We've got Final Fantasy seven rebirth.
882
00:31:43,633 --> 00:31:46,166
We've got the first Berserker Kazan.
883
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:48,566
I've heard that game is pretty good.
884
00:31:51,133 --> 00:31:51,599
Well, and we've got
885
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:52,733
RuneScape on there, too.
886
00:31:53,299 --> 00:31:55,266
RuneScape Dragon Wilds.
887
00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:57,633
It's not tech out of
888
00:31:57,633 --> 00:31:58,833
world to out of worlds to.
889
00:32:00,333 --> 00:32:01,666
I'm part of that statistic.
890
00:32:01,866 --> 00:32:03,066
I bought it during the sale.
891
00:32:04,733 --> 00:32:07,433
Some people in my in my Discord server
892
00:32:07,433 --> 00:32:08,766
were saying they wanted to play that as a
893
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,033
group game.
894
00:32:11,466 --> 00:32:12,466
That's a fun one.
895
00:32:12,566 --> 00:32:13,766
It's one that you'll laugh.
896
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,700
But what's in the bronze?
897
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:19,333
Mega bunk.
898
00:32:20,099 --> 00:32:21,066
Super Robot Wars.
899
00:32:21,466 --> 00:32:22,166
Oh, that's out.
900
00:32:24,366 --> 00:32:24,733
Let's see.
901
00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,233
Ball expat.
902
00:32:29,133 --> 00:32:29,799
Free to play.
903
00:32:30,166 --> 00:32:32,333
So wait, is this is
904
00:32:32,333 --> 00:32:33,933
this based on revenue?
905
00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:35,466
Otherwise you wouldn't see
906
00:32:35,466 --> 00:32:36,466
free to play games on here.
907
00:32:36,866 --> 00:32:40,333
Would it be would it be what it would be
908
00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:41,700
sales rate like in game
909
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:42,866
in app sales and stuff?
910
00:32:43,099 --> 00:32:44,666
Free to play would be at the top.
911
00:32:45,066 --> 00:32:45,833
And I don't think they
912
00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:47,633
record in game sales, do they?
913
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:48,466
They'd have to.
914
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:51,966
So no, no, they don't base it on sales.
915
00:32:51,966 --> 00:32:53,133
They based it on copies,
916
00:32:53,133 --> 00:32:54,433
like probably added to library.
917
00:32:54,433 --> 00:32:56,799
So I've played blue protocol star
918
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:57,599
residents because I was
919
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,933
looking for a new MMO and it sucks.
920
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,366
It sucks.
921
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:07,066
Yeah, it's just too many.
922
00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:10,733
We said, of course, because I hate cars,
923
00:33:10,733 --> 00:33:12,033
but I love car games.
924
00:33:14,833 --> 00:33:15,466
How's the crashing?
925
00:33:16,266 --> 00:33:16,533
I do.
926
00:33:17,266 --> 00:33:17,466
Yeah.
927
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:18,099
What'd you say?
928
00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:19,700
How's the how's the crashing?
929
00:33:20,533 --> 00:33:21,333
I haven't played it.
930
00:33:21,566 --> 00:33:24,366
I I played the first instead of course.
931
00:33:24,566 --> 00:33:24,766
Yeah.
932
00:33:25,933 --> 00:33:27,033
I don't know if that's a sequel.
933
00:33:27,033 --> 00:33:27,533
I don't know.
934
00:33:27,533 --> 00:33:32,066
But the precinct, I saw my Noah from
935
00:33:32,099 --> 00:33:33,833
seeing the issue recommend the demo for
936
00:33:33,833 --> 00:33:35,599
this during an XFES at one point.
937
00:33:36,766 --> 00:33:37,966
It's like a cop simulator.
938
00:33:40,266 --> 00:33:41,333
Seeing people play this.
939
00:33:43,266 --> 00:33:43,866
It's hilarious.
940
00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:45,666
And also the sonic
941
00:33:45,666 --> 00:33:47,233
sonic racing crossroads.
942
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,700
Sonic racing crossworlds is on the list.
943
00:33:52,133 --> 00:33:53,799
I've heard a lot of good things about it.
944
00:33:54,733 --> 00:33:55,466
Yeah, same.
945
00:33:56,033 --> 00:33:57,633
I I really like Sonic
946
00:33:57,633 --> 00:33:59,033
All Stars Racing Transform.
947
00:33:59,266 --> 00:33:59,966
That was a good one.
948
00:34:01,333 --> 00:34:02,233
Was that the one with the
949
00:34:02,233 --> 00:34:03,766
was that the one with the.
950
00:34:05,266 --> 00:34:07,233
TF2 characters and record Ralph as well.
951
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:10,233
I don't remember seeing TF2,
952
00:34:10,233 --> 00:34:12,166
but I know record Ralph in it.
953
00:34:14,433 --> 00:34:16,166
Just one there was some TF2 characters in
954
00:34:16,166 --> 00:34:17,699
that car in a sonic car.
955
00:34:17,966 --> 00:34:20,466
I mean, it's been ages since I played it.
956
00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:23,533
So in terms of steam deck,
957
00:34:23,833 --> 00:34:25,266
Platinum games include Hades,
958
00:34:25,366 --> 00:34:29,833
Bellatro, Cyberpunk 2077, The Witcher 3.
959
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,533
Four bucks for the Witcher 3.
960
00:34:31,766 --> 00:34:32,300
Wait, wait, wait.
961
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:33,300
Last year you're looking at now?
962
00:34:33,533 --> 00:34:34,599
No, this is Steam Deck.
963
00:34:34,766 --> 00:34:35,633
This is Steam Deck.
964
00:34:35,966 --> 00:34:36,500
Oh, I didn't know there
965
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:37,433
was a Steam Deck category.
966
00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:38,733
Yeah, dude.
967
00:34:39,533 --> 00:34:41,266
We got Hades 2 Hollow Knight.
968
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:42,666
The original Hollow
969
00:34:42,666 --> 00:34:44,366
Knight beat Silksong somehow.
970
00:34:45,033 --> 00:34:46,166
No, it's not sorted by.
971
00:34:46,433 --> 00:34:47,233
Oh, it's not sorted.
972
00:34:47,233 --> 00:34:47,733
It's not sorted.
973
00:34:47,733 --> 00:34:48,000
It's random.
974
00:34:48,633 --> 00:34:48,866
Okay.
975
00:34:48,866 --> 00:34:49,233
All right.
976
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,633
So that's first to 12th place randomly.
977
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,333
Oh, that would make sense.
978
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:54,533
Yeah.
979
00:34:55,366 --> 00:34:56,166
We got Vampire
980
00:34:56,166 --> 00:34:57,433
Survivor, The Vulture's Gate,
981
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,533
Stardew Valley, Elvin Ring,
982
00:35:00,033 --> 00:35:02,633
Silksong, Red Dead Redemption 2.
983
00:35:04,666 --> 00:35:04,866
Interesting.
984
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:06,933
I mean, dude, if you want to know what
985
00:35:06,933 --> 00:35:08,566
games are good, check this list,
986
00:35:08,866 --> 00:35:11,333
because this is the games that sold the
987
00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:12,633
best for the Steam Deck, right?
988
00:35:13,033 --> 00:35:15,766
So it's a good list too.
989
00:35:15,766 --> 00:35:16,500
It's a good list.
990
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:17,566
Like, if you need a
991
00:35:17,566 --> 00:35:18,466
game for your Steam Deck,
992
00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:21,366
I would use this list to probably grab it
993
00:35:21,366 --> 00:35:22,133
with a few exceptions.
994
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:22,766
There's a couple of
995
00:35:22,766 --> 00:35:23,500
games on here where I'm like,
996
00:35:23,533 --> 00:35:24,533
they don't run.
997
00:35:24,766 --> 00:35:26,133
It doesn't run that kind of list.
998
00:35:26,433 --> 00:35:27,166
Expedition 33, one
999
00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:27,800
more on the Steam Deck.
1000
00:35:29,233 --> 00:35:30,033
It runs okay.
1001
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,500
Some people say it runs fine, but because
1002
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:33,900
the FSR, like, it runs fine.
1003
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:34,433
But the problem is
1004
00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:34,966
you're going to have...
1005
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,000
It's not going to be as clear at times.
1006
00:35:37,366 --> 00:35:39,333
So it bothered me a little bit to where I
1007
00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:40,166
didn't play it on the Steam Deck.
1008
00:35:40,166 --> 00:35:41,866
Makes sense, especially since, you know,
1009
00:35:41,866 --> 00:35:43,033
you have to parry stuff
1010
00:35:43,033 --> 00:35:44,766
and like there's a lot of timing based
1011
00:35:44,766 --> 00:35:46,866
reactions to attacks.
1012
00:35:49,133 --> 00:35:49,333
Yeah.
1013
00:35:49,633 --> 00:35:50,133
It was just...
1014
00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:51,666
Well, it's such a beautiful world and the
1015
00:35:51,666 --> 00:35:53,266
art style is so great
1016
00:35:53,266 --> 00:35:54,433
that I wanted to actually
1017
00:35:54,433 --> 00:35:57,033
experience it in a better light.
1018
00:35:57,033 --> 00:35:58,866
Like, I think Witcher, Cyberpunk,
1019
00:36:00,266 --> 00:36:01,466
Expedition are all games.
1020
00:36:01,666 --> 00:36:02,566
I just can't play on
1021
00:36:02,566 --> 00:36:03,433
Steam Deck, I'll be honest.
1022
00:36:04,133 --> 00:36:05,699
Yeah. Check the demos out.
1023
00:36:05,699 --> 00:36:06,433
I want to see demos.
1024
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:10,633
The most popular demos.
1025
00:36:12,699 --> 00:36:13,599
What is Half Sword?
1026
00:36:16,366 --> 00:36:17,199
Do there's Half Sword?
1027
00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:18,933
It's a broken image link.
1028
00:36:19,433 --> 00:36:20,033
Oh, it's down there.
1029
00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:21,266
It's not on your list.
1030
00:36:21,933 --> 00:36:24,866
Oh, it's like a knight.
1031
00:36:25,466 --> 00:36:26,233
Ooh, a knight.
1032
00:36:26,233 --> 00:36:27,000
We were just talking about
1033
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,933
this in the bonus episode.
1034
00:36:29,466 --> 00:36:30,233
Knights and shit.
1035
00:36:33,366 --> 00:36:33,766
Half Sword.
1036
00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:36,133
It's got Bill Gates verse...
1037
00:36:36,433 --> 00:36:37,000
Idris Elba.
1038
00:36:37,933 --> 00:36:39,433
Idris Elba.
1039
00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:41,366
Did I pay for that DLC?
1040
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,733
It's a physics based medieval combat
1041
00:36:45,733 --> 00:36:46,833
simulator featuring
1042
00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:48,133
historically accurate,
1043
00:36:48,633 --> 00:36:50,699
what is that, 15th century ARP.
1044
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,233
Arms and armor.
1045
00:36:53,366 --> 00:36:54,466
We're not afraid to show the brutal
1046
00:36:54,466 --> 00:36:55,833
nature of medieval combat.
1047
00:36:57,133 --> 00:36:57,599
That music.
1048
00:36:58,166 --> 00:36:58,800
Can you hear the music?
1049
00:36:59,066 --> 00:36:59,733
Yeah, I can.
1050
00:37:00,133 --> 00:37:00,633
I don't like it.
1051
00:37:00,633 --> 00:37:01,133
I can hear the music.
1052
00:37:01,133 --> 00:37:02,033
It's really loud.
1053
00:37:03,766 --> 00:37:03,966
Yeah.
1054
00:37:03,966 --> 00:37:04,433
That is...
1055
00:37:05,066 --> 00:37:06,166
Yeah, I'll mute it.
1056
00:37:06,466 --> 00:37:07,533
Not sure about that music.
1057
00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:08,266
Yeah, I'm not keen on it.
1058
00:37:08,266 --> 00:37:10,233
But I mean, it kind of reminds me of...
1059
00:37:10,233 --> 00:37:10,933
It looks cool though.
1060
00:37:12,733 --> 00:37:13,666
Doesn't that matter, actually?
1061
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,066
What about Hurdigirdie?
1062
00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,366
You ever listened to Hurdigirdie music?
1063
00:37:17,099 --> 00:37:17,733
Hurdigirdie?
1064
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:19,000
Hurdigirdie, dude.
1065
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:20,233
No, I can't say I have.
1066
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,300
Fire.
1067
00:37:21,833 --> 00:37:23,166
Hurdigirdie.
1068
00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:24,933
You know what looks fire?
1069
00:37:25,366 --> 00:37:26,466
This game right here.
1070
00:37:27,666 --> 00:37:28,900
I kind of want to try it out.
1071
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:29,400
There's a demo.
1072
00:37:30,033 --> 00:37:30,466
Try the demo.
1073
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,133
Let us know what you think for next week.
1074
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:33,266
Let's see.
1075
00:37:33,266 --> 00:37:34,733
We see some of the usual suspects.
1076
00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:35,333
We see...
1077
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,233
Schedule 1.
1078
00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:38,500
Delta rune.
1079
00:37:39,666 --> 00:37:40,500
Stellar Blade.
1080
00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:43,066
What...
1081
00:37:43,633 --> 00:37:45,666
Let's see what else is down there below.
1082
00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:49,166
Oh, Mecide Super Popular.
1083
00:37:49,233 --> 00:37:51,199
I know some guys that are into that.
1084
00:37:53,833 --> 00:37:54,433
I have it.
1085
00:37:54,433 --> 00:37:55,466
I was going to stream
1086
00:37:55,466 --> 00:37:56,099
it one of these days
1087
00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:58,900
because it's one of those weird, crazy
1088
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:00,666
games, but never got to it.
1089
00:38:00,666 --> 00:38:01,900
See, Haste is a popular demo.
1090
00:38:02,266 --> 00:38:03,199
Is this a game out yet?
1091
00:38:03,866 --> 00:38:04,866
Yeah, I have it.
1092
00:38:05,066 --> 00:38:05,400
It's good.
1093
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,533
Oh yeah, it's been out for a while.
1094
00:38:07,099 --> 00:38:07,866
I've been playing it,
1095
00:38:07,866 --> 00:38:08,766
actually, on my Steam Deck.
1096
00:38:09,833 --> 00:38:10,699
Maybe I should get it.
1097
00:38:11,066 --> 00:38:11,333
And peek.
1098
00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:14,266
It's taking me a lot longer than I want
1099
00:38:14,266 --> 00:38:15,966
to actually get good at it, though.
1100
00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:18,166
It's okay, Gardner.
1101
00:38:18,266 --> 00:38:19,400
You'll get good at it eventually.
1102
00:38:19,633 --> 00:38:21,833
You have all the time in the world.
1103
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:25,366
Yeah, unless I'm screwing up my...
1104
00:38:26,566 --> 00:38:27,133
My math.
1105
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,433
That is true.
1106
00:38:29,033 --> 00:38:30,666
I gotta say, I like that
1107
00:38:30,666 --> 00:38:32,300
there's a lot more demos now.
1108
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:33,533
Yeah, Valve's doing a
1109
00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:35,699
lot to encourage demos.
1110
00:38:35,699 --> 00:38:38,266
Oh, I forgot to mention something that
1111
00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:39,333
I've been doing this week.
1112
00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:39,666
Hold on.
1113
00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:40,466
Oh.
1114
00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:46,099
I'm not going to spoil too much, but this
1115
00:38:46,099 --> 00:38:47,033
is something that's going...
1116
00:38:47,433 --> 00:38:49,866
going to happen on my website.
1117
00:38:51,699 --> 00:38:53,233
PC Gamer Demo Disks.
1118
00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:58,633
I bought three years worth of PC Gamer
1119
00:38:58,633 --> 00:39:01,699
Demo Disks, 1999, 2000, and 2001,
1120
00:39:02,566 --> 00:39:04,633
which is like peak PC gaming for me.
1121
00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:07,666
And I've been playing it on period
1122
00:39:07,666 --> 00:39:08,933
accurate hardware, too.
1123
00:39:10,166 --> 00:39:10,266
So...
1124
00:39:10,533 --> 00:39:11,333
Where did you source
1125
00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:12,566
period accurate hardware from?
1126
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,366
I found a PC at my old job.
1127
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:18,933
And I was like, "Yo, can I take this?"
1128
00:39:18,933 --> 00:39:19,566
And they were like, "Sure."
1129
00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:23,466
So I've just had it for ages.
1130
00:39:24,966 --> 00:39:25,166
Damn.
1131
00:39:26,166 --> 00:39:26,966
I have a couple of...
1132
00:39:27,366 --> 00:39:29,066
I could probably almost build one.
1133
00:39:29,566 --> 00:39:31,533
I have everything pretty much done in my
1134
00:39:31,533 --> 00:39:32,766
basement to build one.
1135
00:39:32,766 --> 00:39:33,233
Do it.
1136
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,300
Put it run.
1137
00:39:36,366 --> 00:39:37,666
Yeah, I need to.
1138
00:39:38,866 --> 00:39:39,233
It's time.
1139
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:40,333
Outer Worlds has
1140
00:39:40,333 --> 00:39:41,199
taken all my time, though.
1141
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:42,166
Well, I mean, you know,
1142
00:39:42,433 --> 00:39:43,733
demos on Steam are fun.
1143
00:39:43,966 --> 00:39:45,666
PC Gamer demos are also fun.
1144
00:39:46,733 --> 00:39:49,333
But GOG is also fun.
1145
00:39:50,566 --> 00:39:51,733
GOG is getting acquired
1146
00:39:51,733 --> 00:39:54,033
by its original co-founder.
1147
00:39:55,233 --> 00:39:55,433
What?
1148
00:39:55,633 --> 00:39:57,300
Hitec, give us the details on this.
1149
00:39:58,566 --> 00:39:59,099
Excuse me.
1150
00:39:59,099 --> 00:40:01,133
So basically, GOG is
1151
00:40:01,133 --> 00:40:04,333
being acquired by Michael...
1152
00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:07,166
How do I pronounce this name?
1153
00:40:07,566 --> 00:40:08,033
You guys know?
1154
00:40:08,633 --> 00:40:09,599
James, you might know, right?
1155
00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:10,233
Kinsky.
1156
00:40:11,766 --> 00:40:13,566
Michael Kaczynski.
1157
00:40:17,066 --> 00:40:17,900
I can't read Polish.
1158
00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:21,066
I don't read Polish either.
1159
00:40:21,699 --> 00:40:22,366
I can read Russian.
1160
00:40:22,566 --> 00:40:24,033
Oh, I thought they would be similar
1161
00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:24,933
enough for you to read.
1162
00:40:24,933 --> 00:40:25,266
Whatever.
1163
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:27,166
They're not similar.
1164
00:40:27,666 --> 00:40:27,866
Whatever.
1165
00:40:27,966 --> 00:40:28,699
So basically, they're
1166
00:40:28,699 --> 00:40:29,566
getting back together.
1167
00:40:31,233 --> 00:40:32,233
I'm not sure why, though,
1168
00:40:32,233 --> 00:40:33,500
besides he just wants to.
1169
00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:36,533
But it is worth mentioning that he did
1170
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:37,900
found GOG with the
1171
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:39,233
original mission statement
1172
00:40:39,233 --> 00:40:40,566
that's still intact to this day.
1173
00:40:42,366 --> 00:40:44,933
So it sounds a little better than...
1174
00:40:45,233 --> 00:40:45,833
It sounds a little
1175
00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:48,333
better than like most, right?
1176
00:40:53,099 --> 00:40:53,266
Interesting.
1177
00:40:56,666 --> 00:40:58,433
So why?
1178
00:40:59,699 --> 00:41:01,566
Why is the original
1179
00:41:01,566 --> 00:41:03,433
co-founder acquiring it?
1180
00:41:03,433 --> 00:41:03,833
I'm curious.
1181
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:04,966
I don't know.
1182
00:41:06,266 --> 00:41:07,233
And why does CD
1183
00:41:07,233 --> 00:41:08,166
Projekt Red want to get...
1184
00:41:08,699 --> 00:41:10,033
They just don't want
1185
00:41:10,033 --> 00:41:10,333
to manage it anymore.
1186
00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:11,800
So my understanding is that
1187
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,066
GOG is not profitable at all.
1188
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,166
For CD Projekt.
1189
00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:20,366
So like this is perhaps Michael is
1190
00:41:20,366 --> 00:41:23,133
interested in like turning it,
1191
00:41:23,133 --> 00:41:24,666
spinning it off into its own business and
1192
00:41:24,666 --> 00:41:25,533
making it profitable.
1193
00:41:26,633 --> 00:41:27,599
I don't know.
1194
00:41:27,733 --> 00:41:29,166
Maybe he's interested in keeping it
1195
00:41:29,166 --> 00:41:30,833
private so that it doesn't...
1196
00:41:31,033 --> 00:41:31,833
So that he doesn't have to worry about
1197
00:41:31,833 --> 00:41:33,966
the whims of like, well,
1198
00:41:33,966 --> 00:41:36,533
you know, investors and shit.
1199
00:41:36,533 --> 00:41:40,066
Whereas CD Projekt and CDPR are.
1200
00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:44,566
Yeah, they are a little
1201
00:41:44,566 --> 00:41:45,833
bit different of a public.
1202
00:41:46,099 --> 00:41:48,033
They're a European public company.
1203
00:41:50,233 --> 00:41:54,233
So I don't know if it's quite as
1204
00:41:54,233 --> 00:41:55,533
cutthroat as the American
1205
00:41:55,533 --> 00:41:58,566
kind of public companies,
1206
00:41:58,566 --> 00:42:00,633
but yeah, I'm wondering maybe they were
1207
00:42:00,633 --> 00:42:02,033
getting pressured to...
1208
00:42:02,866 --> 00:42:03,766
I could see it being that they were
1209
00:42:03,766 --> 00:42:04,366
getting pressured to
1210
00:42:04,366 --> 00:42:06,066
like make GOG profitable.
1211
00:42:06,966 --> 00:42:08,366
I doubt it was like a money sink.
1212
00:42:08,633 --> 00:42:11,966
But yeah, it wasn't really bringing
1213
00:42:11,966 --> 00:42:13,666
anything worth keeping it on.
1214
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,666
So I'm wondering maybe they want to make
1215
00:42:17,666 --> 00:42:18,966
sure that it's going to
1216
00:42:18,966 --> 00:42:19,733
be in the hands of someone
1217
00:42:19,733 --> 00:42:20,966
that's going to make it profitable, but
1218
00:42:20,966 --> 00:42:23,033
also like keep it in the same vein of
1219
00:42:23,033 --> 00:42:26,266
being more consumer friendly.
1220
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:31,133
So I mean, the truth is that we don't
1221
00:42:31,133 --> 00:42:31,933
know what's going to happen.
1222
00:42:32,166 --> 00:42:33,066
They say it's going to
1223
00:42:33,066 --> 00:42:34,466
be the same as it is now.
1224
00:42:34,766 --> 00:42:38,333
And that would be ideal if it is. But I have seen some
1225
00:42:38,333 --> 00:42:39,933
people... Sorry, go ahead.
1226
00:42:40,466 --> 00:42:41,633
Well, I was just going to say, like,
1227
00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:43,433
according to this press release,
1228
00:42:44,566 --> 00:42:46,433
this new chapter is about doubling down
1229
00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:49,433
on the vision of like, of having like
1230
00:42:49,433 --> 00:42:52,566
truly free DRM free games.
1231
00:42:54,033 --> 00:42:56,333
And I mean, preserving classics.
1232
00:42:56,633 --> 00:42:57,166
I mean, how much more
1233
00:42:57,166 --> 00:42:58,866
could they double down on this?
1234
00:42:58,866 --> 00:43:01,933
I mean, well, I feel like they've kind of
1235
00:43:01,933 --> 00:43:02,066
waffled a little bit on the
DRM free thing.
1236
00:43:02,066 --> 00:43:07,233
Recently. Am I wrong about that?
1237
00:43:08,433 --> 00:43:09,900
I wouldn't know, to be honest.
1238
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,533
I don't buy games on GOG, despite somehow
1239
00:43:12,533 --> 00:43:13,533
having 200 games on
1240
00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:14,433
there for some reason.
1241
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,466
Yeah, I mean, I think they've...
1242
00:43:19,466 --> 00:43:20,066
I've only bought a few games.
1243
00:43:20,066 --> 00:43:22,000
They've been like toying with the idea of
1244
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,300
letting some games not or have DRM or
1245
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:27,033
something like that.
1246
00:43:27,033 --> 00:43:31,466
I don't remember exactly, but yeah.
1247
00:43:31,733 --> 00:43:31,833
I mean, I think they're going to be a little bit
more like a little bit more like a little bit.
1248
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,533
I don't know. I just I hope that like
1249
00:43:33,533 --> 00:43:35,133
they really kind of like...
1250
00:43:35,466 --> 00:43:36,400
Because GOG no longer
1251
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,766
stands for good old games.
1252
00:43:38,333 --> 00:43:41,033
And they're doing like a lot of like
1253
00:43:41,033 --> 00:43:42,666
modern games and stuff as well.
1254
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:44,766
They get that though. I mean.
1255
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:48,366
They'll eventually become good old games
1256
00:43:48,366 --> 00:43:50,133
though. New games become old.
1257
00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:50,466
That's true.
1258
00:43:50,699 --> 00:43:54,133
Wow. Those good new games will be good
1259
00:43:54,133 --> 00:43:56,466
old games in like 10 years or so.
1260
00:43:56,966 --> 00:43:57,133
Yeah.
1261
00:43:58,766 --> 00:43:58,966
I...
1262
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,466
As much as I like GOG and everything, I
1263
00:44:02,466 --> 00:44:04,133
just I don't know if the model is going
1264
00:44:04,133 --> 00:44:06,366
to ever be a breakout.
1265
00:44:06,933 --> 00:44:07,133
A sustainable.
1266
00:44:07,533 --> 00:44:09,566
Partially because you have to...
1267
00:44:10,666 --> 00:44:12,733
It's obviously sustainable enough to
1268
00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:13,599
where it's still alive.
1269
00:44:14,699 --> 00:44:15,599
I'll be honest, I'm a little...
1270
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:16,366
I'm a little surprised.
1271
00:44:16,699 --> 00:44:17,400
That's why one of the reasons
1272
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,166
I don't buy into GOG because
1273
00:44:19,166 --> 00:44:21,966
you have to convince a lot of these
1274
00:44:21,966 --> 00:44:24,133
companies to release
1275
00:44:24,133 --> 00:44:24,966
their stuff DRM free.
1276
00:44:25,233 --> 00:44:28,066
It's not just that too though.
1277
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,166
They go into the back end of some of
1278
00:44:30,166 --> 00:44:32,666
these older titles and make sure they
1279
00:44:32,666 --> 00:44:34,166
work on newer systems.
1280
00:44:34,533 --> 00:44:35,466
And yeah, there's a lot of
1281
00:44:35,466 --> 00:44:38,433
games from like the dark ages.
1282
00:44:39,166 --> 00:44:40,333
Well, not the dark ages.
1283
00:44:41,166 --> 00:44:42,233
From like the older
1284
00:44:42,233 --> 00:44:43,666
days that don't really...
1285
00:44:44,133 --> 00:44:44,333
Enlightenment.
1286
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,833
Yeah, that don't
1287
00:44:45,833 --> 00:44:47,233
really work out of the box.
1288
00:44:47,233 --> 00:44:48,933
And like unlike a newer system.
1289
00:44:49,666 --> 00:44:49,866
Yeah.
1290
00:44:50,733 --> 00:44:53,300
But GOG does the work of doing that.
1291
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:53,833
They do the patches.
1292
00:44:53,833 --> 00:44:56,066
They apply the new features. They apply the no CD keys.
1293
00:44:56,066 --> 00:44:58,266
They apply a bunch of like modern patches
1294
00:44:58,266 --> 00:45:00,033
to make the games actually
1295
00:45:00,033 --> 00:45:01,933
function on newer systems.
1296
00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:05,699
But I mean, the big question now is how
1297
00:45:05,699 --> 00:45:06,900
much more of this can they do,
1298
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:08,599
especially with newer games that'll
1299
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:10,366
become old in like 10 or 20 years, right?
1300
00:45:11,366 --> 00:45:12,966
I mean, there's no telling if a game that
1301
00:45:12,966 --> 00:45:15,633
releases that today will run on like,
1302
00:45:15,866 --> 00:45:17,000
I don't know, Windows 20.
1303
00:45:20,099 --> 00:45:21,366
It'll probably run on Steel One.
1304
00:45:21,699 --> 00:45:22,366
Steel One's just
1305
00:45:22,366 --> 00:45:24,666
amazing at running old games.
1306
00:45:25,133 --> 00:45:26,533
Which also begs the question, why don't
1307
00:45:26,533 --> 00:45:27,166
they have like an
1308
00:45:27,166 --> 00:45:28,933
official Linux launcher?
1309
00:45:28,933 --> 00:45:30,966
I mean, it's the most
1310
00:45:30,966 --> 00:45:32,033
requested feature, right?
1311
00:45:32,933 --> 00:45:33,966
Yeah, I think so.
1312
00:45:33,966 --> 00:45:37,833
I think at this point, it's not strictly
1313
00:45:37,833 --> 00:45:40,466
necessary for GOG to support Linux,
1314
00:45:40,766 --> 00:45:43,766
like with their Galaxy launcher for a
1315
00:45:43,766 --> 00:45:44,566
couple reasons, right?
1316
00:45:44,566 --> 00:45:46,333
We already have Heroic and Heroic is
1317
00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:48,166
awesome for managing your games.
1318
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:54,166
And also like the subset of people who
1319
00:45:54,166 --> 00:45:56,333
are using Galaxy, as far as I know,
1320
00:45:56,833 --> 00:45:58,000
is like pretty, it's
1321
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,233
not, it's like 50-50.
1322
00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:01,033
Like most people, like half the people
1323
00:46:01,033 --> 00:46:02,366
who are buying games on GOG
1324
00:46:02,366 --> 00:46:04,033
don't even bother with Galaxy.
1325
00:46:06,433 --> 00:46:08,033
So I don't know.
1326
00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:10,266
I could be wrong about that number too,
1327
00:46:10,266 --> 00:46:11,966
but my understanding is like,
1328
00:46:11,966 --> 00:46:13,333
it's just, I don't think it's worth it
1329
00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:17,199
for them to develop a Linux launcher.
1330
00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:21,033
Oh, yeah.
1331
00:46:21,433 --> 00:46:22,433
Linux is still like a
1332
00:46:22,433 --> 00:46:24,533
subset of a subset of PC gaming.
1333
00:46:24,866 --> 00:46:28,266
So it's like, yes, like the Steam Deck is
1334
00:46:28,266 --> 00:46:29,566
pretty crazy awesome.
1335
00:46:29,566 --> 00:46:30,400
And it's like done a
1336
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,433
lot for Linux gaming.
1337
00:46:31,433 --> 00:46:32,199
We're still like 2%,
1338
00:46:32,666 --> 00:46:34,366
two and a half, right?
1339
00:46:36,066 --> 00:46:37,133
It's a healthy 2%.
1340
00:46:37,366 --> 00:46:37,566
Yeah.
1341
00:46:37,566 --> 00:46:39,566
And I mean, like, and I think 2026,
1342
00:46:39,566 --> 00:46:40,833
especially with the Steam Machine,
1343
00:46:41,566 --> 00:46:43,633
we're going to see, and with the frame,
1344
00:46:43,633 --> 00:46:44,566
we're going to see that number grow.
1345
00:46:44,566 --> 00:46:47,099
And it's going to probably, I wouldn't say that, number grow and it's going to probably, I
1346
00:46:47,099 --> 00:46:48,733
wouldn't be surprised to see it around 6%
1347
00:46:49,233 --> 00:46:50,133
by the end of the year.
1348
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,800
Like I'm going to have a wild take.
1349
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:54,933
I'm going to have a really wild take.
1350
00:46:55,766 --> 00:46:58,433
I think if you, if you cut out some of
1351
00:46:58,433 --> 00:47:01,566
the older people that are playing on
1352
00:47:01,566 --> 00:47:02,833
really old hardware,
1353
00:47:02,833 --> 00:47:04,466
if you cut those people out, because it's
1354
00:47:04,466 --> 00:47:05,033
just, I don't know if
1355
00:47:05,033 --> 00:47:05,966
you'll ever get them
1356
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,266
converted in a reasonable amount of time.
1357
00:47:09,633 --> 00:47:12,533
But if you do like the past five, 10
1358
00:47:12,533 --> 00:47:13,566
years, I think you'll see a 10%.
1359
00:47:13,833 --> 00:47:14,400
Yeah.
1360
00:47:14,433 --> 00:47:15,866
I think we'll see 10% Steam
1361
00:47:15,866 --> 00:47:17,000
OS at the end of the year.
1362
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,566
That's a wild take, but I think we're
1363
00:47:18,566 --> 00:47:20,666
going to see a huge bump up.
1364
00:47:21,166 --> 00:47:26,500
And also because gaming is, so PC
1365
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:29,199
hardware is scheduled
1366
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,866
to drop 6% and sell.
1367
00:47:31,866 --> 00:47:33,366
Like it's going to, it's revenue is going
1368
00:47:33,366 --> 00:47:35,066
to be, we're going to have a bad year.
1369
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:36,366
Let's just say that.
1370
00:47:36,699 --> 00:47:38,233
And as content creators, that's another
1371
00:47:38,233 --> 00:47:38,666
thing we're going to
1372
00:47:38,666 --> 00:47:39,733
have a really bad year.
1373
00:47:40,366 --> 00:47:41,400
I know we don't have it on here, but
1374
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,266
that's one thing we should
1375
00:47:42,266 --> 00:47:43,233
have talked about is like,
1376
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:45,800
as content creation with PC hardware and
1377
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,733
PC stuff, like we're, it's
1378
00:47:47,733 --> 00:47:48,900
probably going to be a bad year.
1379
00:47:48,966 --> 00:47:50,099
Yeah, I would imagine.
1380
00:47:51,833 --> 00:47:54,533
But also like we're, we're, I mean, I
1381
00:47:54,533 --> 00:47:56,733
don't know how much like Linux specific
1382
00:47:56,733 --> 00:47:57,766
content you guys do,
1383
00:47:57,933 --> 00:48:01,333
but like most of my articles on my site,
1384
00:48:02,433 --> 00:48:05,533
like the top ones were all like Linux.
1385
00:48:05,966 --> 00:48:07,566
Here's how to use Linux, use Linux.
1386
00:48:08,033 --> 00:48:10,833
So, or they were Steam Deck specific.
1387
00:48:11,033 --> 00:48:12,466
So there's a ton of interest in that.
1388
00:48:12,533 --> 00:48:14,033
And I think you're right, James, like
1389
00:48:14,033 --> 00:48:16,466
with, with the cost of new
1390
00:48:16,466 --> 00:48:18,266
hardware being astronomical
1391
00:48:18,566 --> 00:48:21,166
and just fundamentally unaffordable for
1392
00:48:21,166 --> 00:48:24,166
most people, like, and
1393
00:48:24,166 --> 00:48:25,033
most people, you know,
1394
00:48:25,033 --> 00:48:27,933
most PC gamers already have a gaming PC.
1395
00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:29,099
So it's like, how can you
1396
00:48:29,099 --> 00:48:30,633
stretch your dollar more?
1397
00:48:30,833 --> 00:48:32,900
Well, put Linux on it.
1398
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:34,366
You're going to get more for your, for
1399
00:48:34,366 --> 00:48:36,833
your, uh, more bang for your buck.
1400
00:48:36,833 --> 00:48:37,833
You know, you don't even
1401
00:48:37,833 --> 00:48:39,433
have to buy new hardware.
1402
00:48:41,033 --> 00:48:43,433
And windows 11, like I started using
1403
00:48:43,433 --> 00:48:46,033
windows 11 after like a
1404
00:48:46,033 --> 00:48:47,199
little after it was out.
1405
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:48,633
Like it took me a little bit to adopt it,
1406
00:48:48,633 --> 00:48:49,900
but when I first
1407
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:51,133
started using it, it was fine,
1408
00:48:51,133 --> 00:48:52,533
but they've injected so
1409
00:48:52,533 --> 00:48:55,366
much crap into it that it is.
1410
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,866
I, I use windows right now because it's
1411
00:48:59,866 --> 00:49:01,199
still the easiest way to
1412
00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:02,266
do my game development.
1413
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,166
And I use it in that case, then I'm just
1414
00:49:06,166 --> 00:49:06,800
like, I'll just play some of the games that I need to play
1415
00:49:06,833 --> 00:49:08,533
some of the games that I need to play
1416
00:49:08,533 --> 00:49:12,066
that it's like, do I play
1417
00:49:12,066 --> 00:49:13,300
any, I think arc Raiders and
1418
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:13,966
actually hell divers
1419
00:49:13,966 --> 00:49:15,033
both play on steam OS.
1420
00:49:15,466 --> 00:49:17,866
So maybe I don't like, cause I play those
1421
00:49:17,866 --> 00:49:19,166
types of online games.
1422
00:49:19,166 --> 00:49:21,566
Like maybe, I mean, I could see myself
1423
00:49:21,566 --> 00:49:23,033
moving fully to steam OS
1424
00:49:23,033 --> 00:49:24,933
once there's a really good
1425
00:49:25,133 --> 00:49:28,699
port of the Unreal engine over to Mac OS
1426
00:49:28,699 --> 00:49:31,133
or steam, um, because I
1427
00:49:31,133 --> 00:49:32,000
don't know if I'd need it
1428
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,800
for anything else.
1429
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,800
Minecraft maybe because my sons do like
1430
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,066
really like playing Minecraft.
1431
00:49:37,066 --> 00:49:37,266
Bedrock.
1432
00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:39,533
And so play Java.
1433
00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:41,033
Yeah, they play both.
1434
00:49:41,366 --> 00:49:41,833
They play both.
1435
00:49:42,366 --> 00:49:42,966
Java's on Linux.
1436
00:49:43,699 --> 00:49:43,966
I prefer.
1437
00:49:45,166 --> 00:49:46,433
Yeah, Java Linux, but I
1438
00:49:46,433 --> 00:49:47,599
think it's also played.
1439
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:48,166
Yeah, I know.
1440
00:49:48,166 --> 00:49:48,400
But right.
1441
00:49:51,566 --> 00:49:53,666
You can also play as bedrock too now.
1442
00:49:54,566 --> 00:49:55,233
Yeah, they play both.
1443
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:58,166
So they both, they, they,
1444
00:51:05,666 --> 00:51:07,966
and then add them right into
1445
00:51:07,966 --> 00:51:11,000
the Steam, non-Steam section.
1446
00:51:12,266 --> 00:51:13,666
And then boom, you can launch your games.
1447
00:51:13,666 --> 00:51:16,166
You can customize the Proton launcher.
1448
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,433
You can customize if
1449
00:51:17,433 --> 00:51:18,300
you want it to be wine
1450
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:19,566
or GE Proton or whatever.
1451
00:51:20,233 --> 00:51:21,333
It's so cool.
1452
00:51:21,866 --> 00:51:23,633
And if they went that
1453
00:51:23,633 --> 00:51:25,033
route, then that makes sense.
1454
00:51:25,433 --> 00:51:26,900
But I wonder if they're thinking,
1455
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:29,166
well, we don't have really any Linux DRM,
1456
00:51:29,233 --> 00:51:34,166
like free binaries on our system.
1457
00:51:34,166 --> 00:51:35,466
They might have the Windows.
1458
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:39,266
So they have a ton of Linux games.
1459
00:51:39,266 --> 00:51:39,466
Okay.
1460
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:41,866
Like most of the Linux games
1461
00:51:41,866 --> 00:51:43,566
that they have are packaged.
1462
00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:45,566
Like they're like DOSBox
1463
00:51:45,566 --> 00:51:47,433
packaged with a native DOS,
1464
00:51:48,166 --> 00:51:49,433
like a native Linux DOSBox
1465
00:51:49,433 --> 00:51:51,800
or something like that, right?
1466
00:51:52,233 --> 00:51:53,266
There are some native
1467
00:51:53,266 --> 00:51:54,466
Linux binaries as well,
1468
00:51:54,533 --> 00:51:57,199
but frankly, native Linux binaries suck.
1469
00:51:57,433 --> 00:52:00,533
Like I think that the future
1470
00:52:00,533 --> 00:52:02,766
for Linux gaming is Proton.
1471
00:52:03,233 --> 00:52:03,866
Like through and through.
1472
00:52:03,866 --> 00:52:04,833
I'll be back in a second.
1473
00:52:05,466 --> 00:52:05,666
Sure.
1474
00:52:06,766 --> 00:52:06,966
Interesting.
1475
00:52:07,466 --> 00:52:09,433
So you'd say bundle,
1476
00:52:10,033 --> 00:52:11,233
ah, that's such a mess as
1477
00:52:11,233 --> 00:52:12,733
a game developer though.
1478
00:52:14,099 --> 00:52:16,033
I want like a universal system.
1479
00:52:16,033 --> 00:52:17,933
Dude, Proton is the universal system.
1480
00:52:21,133 --> 00:52:23,766
I truly believe that.
1481
00:52:23,766 --> 00:52:24,366
What? I'm sorry.
1482
00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:26,166
How would I build my game?
1483
00:52:27,466 --> 00:52:29,433
Without a Windows device to
1484
00:52:29,433 --> 00:52:30,833
then use the Proton system.
1485
00:52:30,833 --> 00:52:33,166
Cause if I build,
1486
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,000
let's say an Unreal project for Linux,
1487
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,866
which you can build for
1488
00:52:37,866 --> 00:52:40,166
Linux, that's native for Linux.
1489
00:52:41,766 --> 00:52:43,266
So what you do is you
1490
00:52:43,266 --> 00:52:44,699
build your game for Windows
1491
00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:46,366
inside of--
1492
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,966
Yeah, but then I have
1493
00:52:46,966 --> 00:52:47,900
to have a Windows device.
1494
00:52:48,166 --> 00:52:49,433
You have to have a Windows device
1495
00:52:49,433 --> 00:52:51,533
to build a Windows version in Unreal?
1496
00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:52,166
Yes.
1497
00:52:53,866 --> 00:52:56,333
Any of the Unity, I
1498
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:57,133
don't know about Godot,
1499
00:52:57,233 --> 00:52:58,433
but like Unity and Unreal,
1500
00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:00,833
like the biggest ones you have to have--
1501
00:53:00,833 --> 00:53:02,533
In Godot, you literally just say,
1502
00:53:02,533 --> 00:53:03,433
I want a Windows
1503
00:53:03,433 --> 00:53:05,466
package, I want a macOS package,
1504
00:53:05,466 --> 00:53:06,366
I want a Linux, I
1505
00:53:06,366 --> 00:53:07,266
want an Android package.
1506
00:53:07,466 --> 00:53:08,966
And then you click build and
1507
00:53:08,966 --> 00:53:10,166
it builds them all for you,
1508
00:53:10,166 --> 00:53:11,433
no matter what platform you're on.
1509
00:53:11,433 --> 00:53:12,666
It builds the Windows properly.
1510
00:53:13,233 --> 00:53:15,300
Yeah, there's DLLs
1511
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:16,633
and I don't think Unity.
1512
00:53:17,033 --> 00:53:20,800
And I think Godot has the beautiful
1513
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,233
nature of being newer.
1514
00:53:23,266 --> 00:53:24,033
And that's why I say,
1515
00:53:24,033 --> 00:53:24,933
I'm not sure about Godot
1516
00:53:25,066 --> 00:53:26,833
because I could see it being able to
1517
00:53:26,833 --> 00:53:27,866
download dependencies
1518
00:53:27,866 --> 00:53:28,566
or not have
1519
00:53:28,566 --> 00:53:31,533
dependencies based on some DLLs
1520
00:53:31,533 --> 00:53:33,066
and some older tech where
1521
00:53:33,066 --> 00:53:34,266
Unreal and I think Unity
1522
00:53:34,433 --> 00:53:37,266
have some older issues.
1523
00:53:37,966 --> 00:53:38,666
I mean, let's try it out.
1524
00:53:39,033 --> 00:53:40,366
I looked into it though, I'm
1525
00:53:40,366 --> 00:53:42,066
pretty sure in Unity or Unreal
1526
00:53:42,066 --> 00:53:42,766
you cannot--
1527
00:53:42,766 --> 00:53:45,466
My understanding is that for Godot,
1528
00:53:46,033 --> 00:53:47,633
you download like this
1529
00:53:47,633 --> 00:53:50,433
empty pre-built package
1530
00:53:50,833 --> 00:53:52,366
for your game.
1531
00:53:52,933 --> 00:53:54,199
And then it just like
1532
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:56,033
compiles like any of your scripts
1533
00:53:56,466 --> 00:53:59,466
and then drops in your assets
1534
00:53:59,466 --> 00:54:02,066
into that like empty archive
1535
00:54:02,233 --> 00:54:04,066
and then you can just distribute that.
1536
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:09,833
It uses C-sharp, I believe, right?
1537
00:54:10,066 --> 00:54:10,866
Well, it uses--
1538
00:54:10,866 --> 00:54:11,866
I think C-sharp--
1539
00:54:11,866 --> 00:54:13,366
It uses GDScript and C-sharp.
1540
00:54:15,866 --> 00:54:16,633
Yeah, I think that's
1541
00:54:16,633 --> 00:54:17,733
based off of C-sharp.
1542
00:54:17,733 --> 00:54:18,500
So I think it's all like,
1543
00:54:18,933 --> 00:54:21,066
so C-sharp is like Java,
1544
00:54:21,233 --> 00:54:22,300
it's much better at,
1545
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:24,000
sorry, we're nerding out here,
1546
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,066
but like it's much better
1547
00:54:25,066 --> 00:54:27,666
at packaging for anything.
1548
00:54:27,666 --> 00:54:28,233
It's not, it's
1549
00:54:28,233 --> 00:54:30,133
supposed to be OS agnostic.
1550
00:54:31,233 --> 00:54:35,599
Unity is also C-sharp, but I think it's,
1551
00:54:37,333 --> 00:54:39,733
you can do builds in the web
1552
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,666
and so you can build for
1553
00:54:41,666 --> 00:54:43,266
Windows through their web service.
1554
00:54:44,733 --> 00:54:47,466
Sorry, I'm just, yeah, I hate that I'm
1555
00:54:47,466 --> 00:54:49,233
dependent on Windows
1556
00:54:49,433 --> 00:54:50,933
to build my games and
1557
00:54:50,933 --> 00:54:51,833
then distribute them.
1558
00:54:52,333 --> 00:54:53,300
I'd rather build a
1559
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:55,233
Linux version, but yeah,
1560
00:54:55,733 --> 00:54:56,833
I think you're correct though.
1561
00:54:56,833 --> 00:55:00,166
I think, ah, that's still so messy.
1562
00:55:00,533 --> 00:55:02,433
Like I can't build a Linux version
1563
00:55:02,433 --> 00:55:04,199
and not have it be better on Linux
1564
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:05,933
than the Windows version is.
1565
00:55:06,133 --> 00:55:06,333
Well--
1566
00:55:07,066 --> 00:55:07,900
Valve out to themselves.
1567
00:55:07,900 --> 00:55:08,466
Well, the thing is too,
1568
00:55:08,966 --> 00:55:11,599
like there are fewer development tools
1569
00:55:11,666 --> 00:55:13,466
for game developers on Linux.
1570
00:55:14,166 --> 00:55:15,266
That's, Valve is working
1571
00:55:15,266 --> 00:55:16,633
on resolving that issue,
1572
00:55:17,066 --> 00:55:18,633
but also because Linux
1573
00:55:18,633 --> 00:55:20,133
is such a small market,
1574
00:55:22,433 --> 00:55:25,199
game engines aren't like being pushed
1575
00:55:25,433 --> 00:55:26,666
or aren't feeling the pressure
1576
00:55:26,833 --> 00:55:29,733
to like optimize their games for Linux.
1577
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,366
Also like ABIs on
1578
00:55:32,366 --> 00:55:33,900
Linux break all the time.
1579
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:36,033
User space breaks all the time.
1580
00:55:36,533 --> 00:55:37,566
And so unless you're
1581
00:55:37,566 --> 00:55:38,866
building your Linux binaries
1582
00:55:39,733 --> 00:55:41,666
against like Valve's
1583
00:55:41,666 --> 00:55:42,933
Steam for Linux runtime,
1584
00:55:43,699 --> 00:55:45,000
your Linux version
1585
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,099
will break the next time
1586
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:48,933
GNOME updates or the next
1587
00:55:48,933 --> 00:55:50,333
time the kernel updates.
1588
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,933
And it's like, it's such, dude,
1589
00:55:53,133 --> 00:55:54,166
like the reason that I
1590
00:55:54,166 --> 00:55:57,333
think native Linux games suck
1591
00:55:57,633 --> 00:56:00,000
is because ABIs are unstable
1592
00:56:00,333 --> 00:56:01,900
and like just
1593
00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:03,099
everything breaks all the time.
1594
00:56:03,933 --> 00:56:04,933
So I don't know.
1595
00:56:05,733 --> 00:56:06,333
It's not worth it.
1596
00:56:06,333 --> 00:56:07,933
Yeah, no, I can attest to that.
1597
00:56:08,733 --> 00:56:10,800
The best thing to do in my opinion
1598
00:56:10,966 --> 00:56:11,833
is to build against
1599
00:56:11,833 --> 00:56:13,766
Proton, test against Proton,
1600
00:56:13,766 --> 00:56:14,833
just build one
1601
00:56:14,833 --> 00:56:17,133
freaking version of your game
1602
00:56:17,366 --> 00:56:18,733
and then you can run it anywhere.
1603
00:56:20,633 --> 00:56:23,500
Do you think Valve
1604
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:25,966
should come out with a way
1605
00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:28,233
to just build for its platform period,
1606
00:56:28,233 --> 00:56:29,133
which I guess could be
1607
00:56:29,133 --> 00:56:30,500
under the hood windows,
1608
00:56:30,933 --> 00:56:32,000
but like in the XE, but
1609
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,099
at the end of the day,
1610
00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:36,099
don't call it windows,
1611
00:56:36,099 --> 00:56:37,466
we just call it like,
1612
00:56:37,933 --> 00:56:39,699
I don't know, Proton Universal or
1613
00:56:39,699 --> 00:56:40,233
something like that.
1614
00:56:40,266 --> 00:56:42,400
That's kind of what they've done,
1615
00:56:43,133 --> 00:56:44,666
but without calling it that.
1616
00:56:44,666 --> 00:56:45,666
I just look into it more.
1617
00:56:46,333 --> 00:56:47,133
I mean, I-
1618
00:56:47,433 --> 00:56:48,800
They need to marketing wise,
1619
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,466
you got to market it though.
1620
00:56:50,466 --> 00:56:51,233
That's how you sell things.
1621
00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:52,933
At one point, Valve was
1622
00:56:52,933 --> 00:56:55,466
working on some kind of package.
1623
00:56:55,866 --> 00:56:57,333
Like it was like Flatpak.
1624
00:56:58,266 --> 00:56:58,466
Package manager.
1625
00:56:59,066 --> 00:57:02,266
And I don't know where that stands
1626
00:57:02,533 --> 00:57:04,699
because Valve kind of does things,
1627
00:57:04,699 --> 00:57:05,866
whatever, willy-nilly,
1628
00:57:05,866 --> 00:57:08,133
but at one point they were
1629
00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:09,266
working on something like that
1630
00:57:09,466 --> 00:57:10,033
and I would be interested
1631
00:57:10,033 --> 00:57:11,666
to see where that would go.
1632
00:57:12,166 --> 00:57:14,000
But I don't know.
1633
00:57:14,366 --> 00:57:15,966
I mean, for my
1634
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:17,066
software I built in the past,
1635
00:57:17,066 --> 00:57:19,566
I've looked into doing with managers,
1636
00:57:19,866 --> 00:57:21,266
like application managers
1637
00:57:21,266 --> 00:57:22,233
where it wraps it all together
1638
00:57:22,233 --> 00:57:23,966
and it has all the
1639
00:57:23,966 --> 00:57:26,433
instructions built into the,
1640
00:57:28,233 --> 00:57:29,166
we don't need to get into all that,
1641
00:57:29,166 --> 00:57:31,533
but like I think that is
1642
00:57:31,533 --> 00:57:32,733
probably one of the biggest things
1643
00:57:32,733 --> 00:57:33,633
that Valve could probably figure.
1644
00:57:33,633 --> 00:57:35,166
Like Proton's running smoothly,
1645
00:57:35,166 --> 00:57:36,699
they have a whole team always
1646
00:57:36,699 --> 00:57:38,199
updating it and improving it.
1647
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,566
They need the marketing on now,
1648
00:57:41,866 --> 00:57:43,033
hey game developers, this
1649
00:57:43,033 --> 00:57:43,833
is how we need to start,
1650
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:46,466
I think, packaging it potentially.
1651
00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:48,533
Yeah, and I mean, if they--
1652
00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:49,333
And fix it and make it so
1653
00:57:49,333 --> 00:57:51,633
that runs anywhere Unix runs.
1654
00:57:52,166 --> 00:57:53,933
I mean, that would be ideal.
1655
00:57:54,133 --> 00:57:54,666
And if they could
1656
00:57:54,666 --> 00:57:57,933
approach publishers and whatever
1657
00:57:57,933 --> 00:57:59,033
and be like, this is
1658
00:57:59,033 --> 00:57:59,866
kind of the standard,
1659
00:58:00,733 --> 00:58:02,033
I think that would go a long way
1660
00:58:02,699 --> 00:58:05,933
to getting new games published on Steam.
1661
00:58:06,366 --> 00:58:07,466
And speaking of new games,
1662
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,433
that was a terrible
1663
00:58:09,433 --> 00:58:11,333
transition, terrible segue.
1664
00:58:11,699 --> 00:58:13,266
I loved it.
1665
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:16,033
What's going on with
1666
00:58:16,033 --> 00:58:17,366
this new game plus showcase
1667
00:58:17,766 --> 00:58:20,099
will take place on January 8th?
1668
00:58:20,666 --> 00:58:23,133
It's a new game showcase,
1669
00:58:24,066 --> 00:58:25,233
but they call it new game plus
1670
00:58:25,366 --> 00:58:27,533
because it's not just the new games,
1671
00:58:28,066 --> 00:58:29,066
it's also other stuff
1672
00:58:29,066 --> 00:58:30,066
like developer interviews
1673
00:58:30,066 --> 00:58:31,433
and all that cool stuff.
1674
00:58:32,066 --> 00:58:32,566
I don't need.
1675
00:58:33,266 --> 00:58:34,933
So it's 45 games, they
1676
00:58:34,933 --> 00:58:36,366
claim it's creator-led,
1677
00:58:36,433 --> 00:58:38,766
but how do we know this?
1678
00:58:40,366 --> 00:58:41,333
What does creator-led even
1679
00:58:41,333 --> 00:58:42,633
mean in this case, to be honest?
1680
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:47,133
It's Ubisoft and
1681
00:58:47,133 --> 00:58:48,766
Activision, all their lead--
1682
00:58:49,633 --> 00:58:50,599
Okay, okay.
1683
00:58:51,099 --> 00:58:51,366
Creators.
1684
00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:56,533
Creator-led with suspicious eyes.
1685
00:58:58,533 --> 00:59:00,000
Yeah, which creator's leading though?
1686
00:59:01,099 --> 00:59:01,300
Yeah.
1687
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,466
So it says indie games
1688
00:59:04,466 --> 00:59:06,066
and big AAA productions.
1689
00:59:08,533 --> 00:59:09,166
It says it's
1690
00:59:09,166 --> 00:59:11,166
self-funded too, no sponsors.
1691
00:59:12,300 --> 00:59:13,833
Maybe it's, oh, no ads.
1692
00:59:15,066 --> 00:59:15,766
Self-funded?
1693
00:59:16,066 --> 00:59:17,066
Dude, you know how expensive
1694
00:59:17,066 --> 00:59:18,133
doing these types of things are
1695
00:59:18,133 --> 00:59:18,900
depending on what it is?
1696
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:19,433
I don't know, man.
1697
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:21,633
I'm sharing that.
1698
00:59:22,066 --> 00:59:23,366
There isn't gaming world media.
1699
00:59:23,566 --> 00:59:25,533
I've never heard of gaming world media.
1700
00:59:27,266 --> 00:59:28,166
Let's do some research.
1701
00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:33,400
Gaming world media,
1702
00:59:34,233 --> 00:59:35,366
according to their website,
1703
00:59:35,933 --> 00:59:38,533
go to gamingworldmedia.com.
1704
00:59:41,766 --> 00:59:42,566
Oh my gosh, you got my--
1705
00:59:42,566 --> 00:59:43,566
Oh, there's a video that
1706
00:59:43,566 --> 00:59:44,666
auto-plays on the website.
1707
00:59:44,666 --> 00:59:45,000
That's stupid.
1708
00:59:47,833 --> 00:59:50,366
What is this?
1709
00:59:50,933 --> 00:59:52,866
Gamingworldmedia.com.
1710
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,066
Bunch of broken images.
1711
00:59:55,699 --> 00:59:56,766
Have you seen broken images?
1712
00:59:57,033 --> 00:59:58,833
I see those broken images too, yes.
1713
00:59:59,933 --> 01:00:00,533
What is going on?
1714
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:06,033
It's the home outside of the game.
1715
01:00:06,866 --> 01:00:07,066
Interesting.
1716
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:08,199
Oh, so they own a bunch of
1717
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:10,333
things like rivals assembled,
1718
01:00:10,333 --> 01:00:10,833
everything Marvel
1719
01:00:10,833 --> 01:00:12,500
Rivals, or Rivals Esports,
1720
01:00:13,033 --> 01:00:13,866
Marvel Rivals Esports
1721
01:00:13,866 --> 01:00:15,266
News, or Deadlock Intel,
1722
01:00:15,866 --> 01:00:17,099
number one source of all things deadlock,
1723
01:00:17,533 --> 01:00:19,566
or Marathon Game News, Marathon Intel.
1724
01:00:20,066 --> 01:00:21,866
Yeah, okay, okay, I
1725
01:00:21,866 --> 01:00:22,766
see what's going on here.
1726
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,666
From Andy's to the world's largest.
1727
01:00:24,699 --> 01:00:26,300
There's also content
1728
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:27,566
creators like Jake Sucky.
1729
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:31,133
Is that his name?
1730
01:00:31,433 --> 01:00:32,699
That's his alias.
1731
01:00:33,066 --> 01:00:34,066
It's not Jake Sucky.
1732
01:00:35,866 --> 01:00:38,033
I spelled like Sucky, so it must be.
1733
01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:40,133
It's on him, man, that's what I do.
1734
01:00:40,166 --> 01:00:41,033
I thought it was Jake Sucky.
1735
01:00:42,733 --> 01:00:43,533
(laughing)
1736
01:00:44,233 --> 01:00:44,733
Oh my God.
1737
01:00:44,733 --> 01:00:46,433
But if that is his name, then that sucks.
1738
01:00:47,466 --> 01:00:47,666
Yeah.
1739
01:00:49,166 --> 01:00:49,733
Pun intended.
1740
01:00:49,766 --> 01:00:50,533
I think it's Jake Sucky.
1741
01:00:52,433 --> 01:00:52,633
Interesting.
1742
01:00:53,699 --> 01:00:56,166
So, creator, I guess
1743
01:00:56,166 --> 01:00:58,400
there's some measure of truth
1744
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,966
to creator-led,
1745
01:01:00,266 --> 01:01:00,833
because they're probably
1746
01:01:00,833 --> 01:01:03,599
having their roster of creators
1747
01:01:03,966 --> 01:01:05,300
hosting it, I would imagine.
1748
01:01:06,099 --> 01:01:06,866
But that's speculation
1749
01:01:06,866 --> 01:01:07,833
on my part, I don't know.
1750
01:01:08,133 --> 01:01:09,066
And they also have a link
1751
01:01:09,066 --> 01:01:11,266
to their YouTube channel
1752
01:01:11,266 --> 01:01:12,300
on their website, so
1753
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:14,133
New Game Plus Showcase
1754
01:01:14,966 --> 01:01:16,766
has 1,200 subscribers.
1755
01:01:16,766 --> 01:01:17,199
Wow, look at that,
1756
01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:18,433
they've got more subscribers
1757
01:01:18,733 --> 01:01:20,333
than we do, and they don't even have
1758
01:01:20,333 --> 01:01:21,233
anything up right now.
1759
01:01:21,633 --> 01:01:24,266
But any one of our
1760
01:01:24,266 --> 01:01:25,733
personal YouTube channels
1761
01:01:25,733 --> 01:01:27,266
has more than theirs, so.
1762
01:01:27,566 --> 01:01:28,466
At least until the showcase,
1763
01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:30,166
we don't know what they'll showcase.
1764
01:01:31,166 --> 01:01:32,166
Yeah, we'll see.
1765
01:01:32,366 --> 01:01:33,266
It's problematic that
1766
01:01:33,266 --> 01:01:35,599
they have X as their primary
1767
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:36,833
(laughing)
1768
01:01:37,233 --> 01:01:38,466
social media listed here.
1769
01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:40,966
Should've put their website first.
1770
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:42,099
Yeah.
1771
01:01:43,366 --> 01:01:45,833
Dude, any company that's
1772
01:01:45,833 --> 01:01:46,766
gonna be promoting something
1773
01:01:46,766 --> 01:01:48,366
like this should be promoting their
1774
01:01:48,366 --> 01:01:49,833
website before any--
1775
01:01:49,866 --> 01:01:51,166
So it looks like they have sponsors
1776
01:01:51,333 --> 01:01:53,500
on the Gaming World Media website.
1777
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,666
So if you go back to that
1778
01:01:56,666 --> 01:01:57,766
website and scroll down,
1779
01:01:57,833 --> 01:01:58,400
you'll see they're
1780
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,666
sponsored by Lexus, iBuyPower,
1781
01:02:02,233 --> 01:02:04,599
AT&T, Epic Gate,
1782
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:06,699
scroll up, scroll back up.
1783
01:02:07,133 --> 01:02:09,833
That's not, those aren't sponsors.
1784
01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:10,366
I don't know.
1785
01:02:10,366 --> 01:02:10,833
No, they don't.
1786
01:02:10,866 --> 01:02:12,333
They're just from indies to the world.
1787
01:02:12,933 --> 01:02:14,433
I'm just saying, that
1788
01:02:14,433 --> 01:02:15,533
doesn't mean it's sponsored.
1789
01:02:16,466 --> 01:02:17,633
It just, it means that
1790
01:02:17,633 --> 01:02:18,766
they want brand recognition,
1791
01:02:19,133 --> 01:02:19,866
and so they'll, like
1792
01:02:19,866 --> 01:02:20,766
anyone that they work with,
1793
01:02:20,766 --> 01:02:21,699
they'll throw it there.
1794
01:02:21,699 --> 01:02:23,033
It could be sponsors, but--
1795
01:02:23,033 --> 01:02:23,566
This could be sponsors
1796
01:02:23,566 --> 01:02:25,533
that they have brought
1797
01:02:25,699 --> 01:02:27,099
to their roster.
1798
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,266
Yeah, like these are
1799
01:02:29,266 --> 01:02:30,366
companies that they've worked with
1800
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:30,800
before.
1801
01:02:32,033 --> 01:02:32,266
I see.
1802
01:02:33,466 --> 01:02:35,766
I just, do we need another showcase?
1803
01:02:36,233 --> 01:02:36,633
I don't know.
1804
01:02:36,633 --> 01:02:37,566
Yeah, I don't think we
1805
01:02:37,566 --> 01:02:39,599
need one, but you know.
1806
01:02:40,133 --> 01:02:40,566
If there's--
1807
01:02:40,699 --> 01:02:42,900
So, there are--
1808
01:02:43,266 --> 01:02:44,166
No, no, like they can
1809
01:02:44,166 --> 01:02:45,066
do it if they want to.
1810
01:02:45,066 --> 01:02:46,199
I'm just saying, like I'm
1811
01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:47,433
not trying to stop anyone.
1812
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,266
I'm just, I'm already
1813
01:02:49,266 --> 01:02:51,099
fatigued from all the showcases
1814
01:02:51,099 --> 01:02:54,133
we do with Steam, with the other--
1815
01:02:54,133 --> 01:02:55,066
More than lifetimes.
1816
01:02:55,433 --> 01:02:55,966
I'm just exhausted.
1817
01:02:56,933 --> 01:02:57,133
No.
1818
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,366
Not at all.
1819
01:03:00,533 --> 01:03:01,866
I'll probably be gone, is it in January?
1820
01:03:02,133 --> 01:03:02,733
It's like in a few days.
1821
01:03:03,433 --> 01:03:05,366
Yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting to see
1822
01:03:05,366 --> 01:03:07,033
what comes out of this, but I'm not,
1823
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:08,033
I'm not gonna watch live.
1824
01:03:08,066 --> 01:03:08,733
Yeah, I agree.
1825
01:03:08,833 --> 01:03:09,900
I don't give a shit.
1826
01:03:10,466 --> 01:03:11,800
Like, I mean, also like
1827
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:12,733
a lot of my exhaustion
1828
01:03:13,366 --> 01:03:14,233
from this stuff comes
1829
01:03:14,233 --> 01:03:16,666
from like the game awards
1830
01:03:17,433 --> 01:03:19,566
being so heavily like,
1831
01:03:19,933 --> 01:03:22,400
just add, add, add, add, add.
1832
01:03:24,366 --> 01:03:24,966
I mean, that's what,
1833
01:03:26,066 --> 01:03:27,366
pretty much what it's for.
1834
01:03:27,633 --> 01:03:28,533
Like a showcase is
1835
01:03:28,533 --> 01:03:29,733
like a bunch of marketing.
1836
01:03:29,733 --> 01:03:29,933
Right.
1837
01:03:30,099 --> 01:03:31,333
When you say add, do you mean like,
1838
01:03:31,333 --> 01:03:32,633
"Pissed by new games," or
1839
01:03:32,633 --> 01:03:34,266
do you mean ads as in like,
1840
01:03:34,266 --> 01:03:35,000
"Add ads."
1841
01:03:35,566 --> 01:03:37,566
Well, like, okay, so what I mean is like,
1842
01:03:37,566 --> 01:03:38,333
they're saying here,
1843
01:03:39,166 --> 01:03:40,433
genuine excitement in Cars 8,
1844
01:03:40,433 --> 01:03:41,933
no paid placements, right?
1845
01:03:42,366 --> 01:03:45,266
To me, paid placements are every trailer
1846
01:03:45,266 --> 01:03:46,300
that was in the game,
1847
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:47,366
like almost every trailer
1848
01:03:47,366 --> 01:03:48,333
that was in the game awards.
1849
01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:49,966
I feel like there were one or two games
1850
01:03:49,966 --> 01:03:51,166
that Jeff was like just excited to show,
1851
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:54,166
and then everything else was just paid.
1852
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:56,366
I thought, yeah.
1853
01:03:56,933 --> 01:03:57,233
Yeah.
1854
01:03:57,333 --> 01:03:58,433
It's hard though,
1855
01:03:58,433 --> 01:03:59,933
because that's how you pay
1856
01:03:59,933 --> 01:04:01,033
for the event, those
1857
01:04:01,033 --> 01:04:02,099
events are really expensive.
1858
01:04:02,133 --> 01:04:03,433
Yeah, but like if this is,
1859
01:04:03,466 --> 01:04:05,599
And Miss Piggy, you know she's expensive.
1860
01:04:05,866 --> 01:04:07,266
Oh yeah, of course, that's Disney money.
1861
01:04:07,666 --> 01:04:08,833
But like, if this is just
1862
01:04:08,833 --> 01:04:11,099
being put on as like a livestream
1863
01:04:11,099 --> 01:04:13,166
in a room with some of their creators,
1864
01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:15,533
that's not that expensive, you know?
1865
01:04:15,966 --> 01:04:18,333
Like, so this, to me,
1866
01:04:18,333 --> 01:04:19,333
like this is exciting, right?
1867
01:04:19,366 --> 01:04:22,099
Like, if these are just indie games
1868
01:04:22,099 --> 01:04:24,466
that are on these creators' radars, I
1869
01:04:24,466 --> 01:04:25,366
could get into that.
1870
01:04:25,866 --> 01:04:28,633
But I'm so tired of like,
1871
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:31,266
the showcase after showcase,
1872
01:04:31,699 --> 01:04:33,900
I'm like, just let me know, give me a
1873
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:34,900
synopsis, I don't care.
1874
01:04:35,466 --> 01:04:37,833
They're just trying to break
1875
01:04:37,966 --> 01:04:38,699
Jeff Keighley's
1876
01:04:38,699 --> 01:04:40,433
monopoly on game showcases.
1877
01:04:40,933 --> 01:04:42,066
Yeah, he's got two of
1878
01:04:42,066 --> 01:04:42,833
them, for fuck's sake.
1879
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,199
Two of the biggest ones.
1880
01:04:44,233 --> 01:04:44,833
He's got two.
1881
01:04:45,933 --> 01:04:48,699
I think the summer one's a little better.
1882
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:49,566
I agree.
1883
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:50,966
I think you get a lot out of it.
1884
01:04:50,966 --> 01:04:51,733
The summer one is
1885
01:04:51,733 --> 01:04:53,266
like, just kind of chill.
1886
01:04:54,033 --> 01:04:55,166
Yeah, it's just the games.
1887
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:57,333
It's chill, and there's, yeah,
1888
01:04:57,333 --> 01:04:58,366
and I don't think it's at all,
1889
01:04:58,666 --> 01:04:59,266
there might be some
1890
01:04:59,266 --> 01:05:02,166
placed, like paid placements,
1891
01:05:02,166 --> 01:05:03,166
but they still probably
1892
01:05:03,166 --> 01:05:03,866
have a lot that's not.
1893
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:04,833
Plus we don't have to
1894
01:05:04,833 --> 01:05:06,233
deal with award stuff.
1895
01:05:08,133 --> 01:05:09,266
Yeah, I can handle the
1896
01:05:09,266 --> 01:05:10,366
game awards once a year.
1897
01:05:10,366 --> 01:05:11,133
I'll be honest, I can
1898
01:05:11,133 --> 01:05:12,166
handle that, I'm fine with it.
1899
01:05:12,699 --> 01:05:14,233
Anything else beyond
1900
01:05:14,233 --> 01:05:16,033
that gets a little annoying.
1901
01:05:16,366 --> 01:05:17,699
The summer one's not bad,
1902
01:05:17,699 --> 01:05:18,533
this one being right
1903
01:05:18,533 --> 01:05:20,066
after the game awards though,
1904
01:05:20,066 --> 01:05:21,300
I'm like, I'm already fatigued.
1905
01:05:21,333 --> 01:05:21,766
So how much do you
1906
01:05:21,766 --> 01:05:22,666
think they'll spend on this?
1907
01:05:25,199 --> 01:05:26,166
I don't know.
1908
01:05:26,366 --> 01:05:27,133
A billion, huh?
1909
01:05:27,566 --> 01:05:28,066
That's interesting.
1910
01:05:28,933 --> 01:05:29,300
A million.
1911
01:05:30,133 --> 01:05:31,366
I don't think it's billion.
1912
01:05:32,233 --> 01:05:33,099
Well, what about a billion?
1913
01:05:33,433 --> 01:05:34,533
Because I know of one
1914
01:05:34,533 --> 01:05:36,433
game that's approaching
1915
01:05:36,699 --> 01:05:37,666
being a billion dollars.
1916
01:05:38,066 --> 01:05:40,433
That is true, Star Citizen.
1917
01:05:42,033 --> 01:05:45,766
I've been talking about
1918
01:05:45,766 --> 01:05:47,333
this game for over 10 years
1919
01:05:47,333 --> 01:05:49,699
and it's still not even out, technically.
1920
01:05:50,733 --> 01:05:52,333
Well, yes.
1921
01:05:54,333 --> 01:05:56,233
They could, from a marketing standpoint,
1922
01:05:56,966 --> 01:05:58,366
they should have definitely rephrased
1923
01:05:58,366 --> 01:05:59,300
how they're working on this.
1924
01:05:59,300 --> 01:05:59,833
They were like, yeah, no,
1925
01:05:59,833 --> 01:06:00,733
this is an early access.
1926
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,933
It's never gonna be fully done,
1927
01:06:05,266 --> 01:06:06,266
and that's how I would have--
1928
01:06:06,333 --> 01:06:07,533
I mean, truth be told,
1929
01:06:08,233 --> 01:06:09,166
they call it an alpha,
1930
01:06:09,533 --> 01:06:09,966
but it could be more stable.
1931
01:06:10,233 --> 01:06:10,966
But it could be more
1932
01:06:10,966 --> 01:06:12,066
stable than some of the games
1933
01:06:12,066 --> 01:06:14,033
that have come at 1.0, right?
1934
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:15,866
Some of the games we've
1935
01:06:15,866 --> 01:06:16,566
seen that come out with 1.0.
1936
01:06:16,833 --> 01:06:19,300
I mean, whether it's alpha, beta,
1937
01:06:19,566 --> 01:06:20,466
if people buy it and they
1938
01:06:20,466 --> 01:06:22,666
like it, then why not, right?
1939
01:06:25,099 --> 01:06:27,633
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
1940
01:06:27,633 --> 01:06:30,800
I don't, Star Citizen made some promises,
1941
01:06:31,066 --> 01:06:32,000
and that's the problems that
1942
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,333
they made promises early on,
1943
01:06:33,833 --> 01:06:34,633
that they didn't fulfill.
1944
01:06:35,333 --> 01:06:36,633
And then they went after cash cows
1945
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:38,599
and they've kind of just been chasing
1946
01:06:38,833 --> 01:06:40,166
this weird money thing.
1947
01:06:40,166 --> 01:06:41,800
And so that's, I think, the
1948
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,166
problem with Star Citizen.
1949
01:06:43,366 --> 01:06:44,633
I was interested in the beginning,
1950
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:46,333
and then it looked like
1951
01:06:46,333 --> 01:06:49,166
they were chasing money
1952
01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:50,599
a little too
1953
01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:52,333
aggressively to develop their games.
1954
01:06:52,599 --> 01:06:54,500
It's a crazy situation, too,
1955
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:58,166
because Star Citizen, I mean,
1956
01:06:58,933 --> 01:07:01,300
I'm vaguely interested in Star Citizen.
1957
01:07:01,533 --> 01:07:02,633
It looks like a pretty cool game.
1958
01:07:02,633 --> 01:07:03,333
I've seen some gameplay.
1959
01:07:05,366 --> 01:07:07,666
It's like part FTL,
1960
01:07:07,933 --> 01:07:09,866
part on foot ground combat,
1961
01:07:10,433 --> 01:07:11,566
part like space simulator.
1962
01:07:12,233 --> 01:07:12,966
It looks pretty cool.
1963
01:07:13,466 --> 01:07:15,233
Supposedly, the single player campaign
1964
01:07:15,233 --> 01:07:16,733
is supposed to be coming
1965
01:07:16,733 --> 01:07:18,500
out this year, Squadron 42.
1966
01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:23,766
Yeah, it's got big stars, too,
1967
01:07:24,033 --> 01:07:26,500
because Chris Roberts likes working
1968
01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:27,233
with big Hollywood
1969
01:07:27,233 --> 01:07:30,333
actors, like Mark Hamill,
1970
01:07:31,933 --> 01:07:32,666
and Henry Cavill.
1971
01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:33,333
Yep.
1972
01:07:35,133 --> 01:07:36,400
Ah, shit, speaking of Henry Cavill,
1973
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,000
I wonder what's going on
1974
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,000
with that Warhammer series.
1975
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,466
I think it's been worked on.
1976
01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:43,800
I don't know if there's anything to
1977
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:44,866
update on it, though.
1978
01:07:45,033 --> 01:07:45,733
Surely it couldn't take
1979
01:07:45,733 --> 01:07:46,766
that long to make a war.
1980
01:07:46,766 --> 01:07:47,866
Well, actually, no, I
1981
01:07:47,866 --> 01:07:48,599
shouldn't say anything.
1982
01:07:52,233 --> 01:07:53,199
In today's world, it
1983
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:54,733
can take two, three years
1984
01:07:54,733 --> 01:07:55,633
to get a season out.
1985
01:07:55,666 --> 01:07:57,366
Yeah, look at the Stranger Kids kids.
1986
01:07:58,199 --> 01:07:59,566
They fucking, they're
1987
01:07:59,566 --> 01:08:01,900
like whole ass adults.
1988
01:08:03,266 --> 01:08:05,500
Have families, some of them have kids.
1989
01:08:07,133 --> 01:08:09,366
But what are you
1990
01:08:09,366 --> 01:08:10,166
gonna do up against that?
1991
01:08:10,566 --> 01:08:12,033
Your other option is AI them.
1992
01:08:12,466 --> 01:08:15,366
The other option is lower budgets
1993
01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:18,766
and faster turnarounds.
1994
01:08:19,666 --> 01:08:19,866
Or--
1995
01:08:20,466 --> 01:08:21,033
Yeah, you can do that.
1996
01:08:21,699 --> 01:08:23,733
I think it's just up to the creatives.
1997
01:08:23,733 --> 01:08:24,899
If they want to do
1998
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:27,433
more expensive releases
1999
01:08:27,433 --> 01:08:28,466
every few years, it's fine.
2000
01:08:28,466 --> 01:08:29,033
Or animate them.
2001
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:29,500
Yes.
2002
01:08:30,633 --> 01:08:33,300
Yeah, the real stranger things.
2003
01:08:35,166 --> 01:08:36,533
Truly the strangest thing.
2004
01:08:36,733 --> 01:08:36,933
Even--
2005
01:08:37,899 --> 01:08:38,066
Yeah?
2006
01:08:38,466 --> 01:08:38,766
Yeah.
2007
01:08:40,133 --> 01:08:43,800
I mean, but you can't convert from live
2008
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,966
action to animate it
2009
01:08:45,566 --> 01:08:46,033
to finish a story.
2010
01:08:46,033 --> 01:08:47,266
That is true, that is true.
2011
01:08:47,266 --> 01:08:47,899
People would get upset.
2012
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,566
If you want to do spin-offs, that's fine.
2013
01:08:51,633 --> 01:08:54,533
But yeah, no, I'm okay
2014
01:08:54,533 --> 01:08:55,366
with the way it's going.
2015
01:08:55,366 --> 01:08:56,066
It's just what it is.
2016
01:08:56,466 --> 01:08:57,633
If I'm gonna get better quality,
2017
01:08:58,500 --> 01:08:59,399
Fallout, I think took
2018
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:00,600
what, two years to come out
2019
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,233
with another season?
2020
01:09:01,433 --> 01:09:02,366
And I'm fine with that.
2021
01:09:02,366 --> 01:09:03,733
If it's good, I'm fine.
2022
01:09:05,433 --> 01:09:06,166
Instead of them just
2023
01:09:06,166 --> 01:09:08,366
milking it hard every season.
2024
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:10,600
Well, the question is,
2025
01:09:11,566 --> 01:09:12,833
with inflated budgets
2026
01:09:12,833 --> 01:09:15,100
and everything in the TV series,
2027
01:09:17,266 --> 01:09:18,199
what's going on with
2028
01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:19,766
the, how much is too much?
2029
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,333
I'm trying to segue too hard.
2030
01:09:23,333 --> 01:09:23,533
Sorry.
2031
01:09:24,866 --> 01:09:25,833
How much is too much?
2032
01:09:26,533 --> 01:09:27,033
Well, it depends.
2033
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:28,266
How much can you afford?
2034
01:09:29,833 --> 01:09:31,533
Yeah, that's the problem.
2035
01:09:33,933 --> 01:09:35,533
I can't afford anything in 2026.
2036
01:09:35,633 --> 01:09:36,899
Man, this is the first generation
2037
01:09:37,133 --> 01:09:38,133
where we can't have shit.
2038
01:09:41,366 --> 01:09:41,833
It's okay.
2039
01:09:42,266 --> 01:09:43,266
All how, I have my Steam Deck.
2040
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:44,633
I will spend the money I
2041
01:09:44,633 --> 01:09:45,399
would have spent on this,
2042
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:45,866
on like, you know.
2043
01:09:46,166 --> 01:09:46,566
The Steam Chain?
2044
01:09:47,266 --> 01:09:48,366
A nice summer vacation,
2045
01:09:48,633 --> 01:09:49,966
because it'll be cheaper
2046
01:09:49,966 --> 01:09:51,166
to go on vacation with
2047
01:09:51,166 --> 01:09:52,066
my Steam Deck than it is.
2048
01:09:52,066 --> 01:09:52,666
Dude, will it be though?
2049
01:09:53,433 --> 01:09:54,133
Will it be though?
2050
01:09:56,466 --> 01:09:57,033
We will see.
2051
01:09:57,500 --> 01:09:58,333
The computers I buy are
2052
01:09:58,333 --> 01:09:59,933
like three or $4,000, so yes.
2053
01:09:59,966 --> 01:10:01,800
All right, but like, will it be though?
2054
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:04,233
Yes.
2055
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,699
It'll be cheaper to go on
2056
01:10:07,699 --> 01:10:08,533
vacation with your Steam Deck
2057
01:10:08,533 --> 01:10:09,566
than it is to buy a computer.
2058
01:10:10,166 --> 01:10:11,366
I mean, so what's going on here?
2059
01:10:11,533 --> 01:10:12,833
So, ASUS announces price
2060
01:10:12,833 --> 01:10:14,933
hikes starting January 5th,
2061
01:10:14,933 --> 01:10:17,433
which could raise the RG Ally prices.
2062
01:10:18,633 --> 01:10:21,866
This is a report from Steam Deck HQ.
2063
01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:23,166
Shout out to Noah.
2064
01:10:23,366 --> 01:10:25,633
He's been on our podcast a few times.
2065
01:10:26,266 --> 01:10:26,766
What's up, Noah?
2066
01:10:28,333 --> 01:10:28,766
Yeah, so--
2067
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,266
But never when Garner's been around.
2068
01:10:30,566 --> 01:10:30,766
I just--
2069
01:10:31,366 --> 01:10:33,433
Yeah, I've never seen myself and Noah
2070
01:10:33,433 --> 01:10:35,133
in the same place at the same time.
2071
01:10:35,166 --> 01:10:36,566
Damn, it's almost like
2072
01:10:36,566 --> 01:10:37,433
they're the same person.
2073
01:10:41,633 --> 01:10:43,366
So what's going on here?
2074
01:10:43,633 --> 01:10:45,933
So ASUS is raising their prices?
2075
01:10:47,333 --> 01:10:50,100
They say strategic price adjustments.
2076
01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:52,300
So it sounds like
2077
01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:53,133
they're gonna raise prices,
2078
01:10:53,133 --> 01:10:54,033
otherwise they would have said,
2079
01:10:54,266 --> 01:10:55,100
"Oh, we're lowering our prices."
2080
01:10:56,899 --> 01:10:58,866
All these companies are
2081
01:10:58,866 --> 01:10:59,966
gonna be hiring their prices.
2082
01:11:01,633 --> 01:11:04,366
It's the RAM, is a big part of the price.
2083
01:11:04,366 --> 01:11:06,366
Yeah, so if you scroll down,
2084
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:07,966
there's an English translation.
2085
01:11:11,166 --> 01:11:13,066
And some tariffs are kicking in finally
2086
01:11:13,066 --> 01:11:16,566
in the sense of they had some leeway
2087
01:11:16,766 --> 01:11:18,466
and some tariffs are
2088
01:11:18,466 --> 01:11:19,500
gonna be hitting this too.
2089
01:11:19,533 --> 01:11:20,000
That sucks.
2090
01:11:21,899 --> 01:11:22,899
Oh my God, in the new
2091
01:11:22,899 --> 01:11:24,533
era of AI-driven computing,
2092
01:11:24,633 --> 01:11:26,500
companies face both new opportunities
2093
01:11:26,733 --> 01:11:27,933
and new challenges in
2094
01:11:27,933 --> 01:11:28,966
operational planning.
2095
01:11:29,300 --> 01:11:31,233
ASUS values our partnership with you
2096
01:11:31,233 --> 01:11:32,166
and remains committed
2097
01:11:32,166 --> 01:11:33,233
to providing up-to-date
2098
01:11:33,233 --> 01:11:35,133
and reliable IT products and services,
2099
01:11:35,699 --> 01:11:37,500
growing together with your team and
2100
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:38,866
creating shared value.
2101
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,366
Just talking about reliable IT products,
2102
01:11:43,233 --> 01:11:46,500
sounds like not ROG, like not gaming.
2103
01:11:49,666 --> 01:11:49,866
Yeah.
2104
01:11:51,433 --> 01:11:52,766
But ASUS is better to
2105
01:11:52,766 --> 01:11:55,066
work with than the direct,
2106
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,966
like GPD and not to throw
2107
01:11:59,966 --> 01:12:00,933
them under the bus fully,
2108
01:12:00,933 --> 01:12:04,166
but like you're gonna have a better time
2109
01:12:04,433 --> 01:12:05,533
having support from ASUS
2110
01:12:05,733 --> 01:12:07,766
than you are from some of the
2111
01:12:07,766 --> 01:12:09,433
more direct Chinese companies.
2112
01:12:12,133 --> 01:12:12,333
Absolutely.
2113
01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:14,533
So of course, they
2114
01:12:14,533 --> 01:12:16,166
don't mention what products
2115
01:12:16,166 --> 01:12:17,466
are being hyped up in price,
2116
01:12:18,866 --> 01:12:21,266
but I mean, we can
2117
01:12:21,266 --> 01:12:23,833
assume that full computers,
2118
01:12:24,433 --> 01:12:25,433
like the RG Ally or
2119
01:12:25,433 --> 01:12:26,633
whatever pre-buds they have,
2120
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:28,166
those are gonna go up in price.
2121
01:12:30,566 --> 01:12:31,666
Their graphics cards
2122
01:12:31,666 --> 01:12:32,833
are gonna go up in price.
2123
01:12:33,533 --> 01:12:36,933
Anything with RAM or NAND is going up.
2124
01:12:37,766 --> 01:12:38,433
Yeah, I mean.
2125
01:12:39,233 --> 01:12:39,533
Yup.
2126
01:12:41,766 --> 01:12:43,566
So, I mean, this is
2127
01:12:43,566 --> 01:12:45,133
expected in my opinion.
2128
01:12:45,133 --> 01:12:45,666
I don't know if this
2129
01:12:45,666 --> 01:12:47,899
is like a crazy thing.
2130
01:12:47,966 --> 01:12:49,333
I think it's a little preemptive.
2131
01:12:49,333 --> 01:12:50,833
I still think some of the price hikes
2132
01:12:50,833 --> 01:12:51,466
that have been going on
2133
01:12:51,466 --> 01:12:53,433
are a little preemptive.
2134
01:12:54,566 --> 01:12:56,166
A little, because, you know,
2135
01:12:56,366 --> 01:12:57,933
a company is always
2136
01:12:57,933 --> 01:12:59,533
gonna take advantage of a,
2137
01:13:00,833 --> 01:13:01,966
of a bad situation to
2138
01:13:01,966 --> 01:13:02,866
make money off of us.
2139
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:04,466
Like, I think the pandemic
2140
01:13:04,466 --> 01:13:05,933
just showed that, like 100%.
2141
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:12,566
But would you pay for an ROG Xbox Ally X
2142
01:13:12,966 --> 01:13:14,000
that's more than $1,000?
2143
01:13:14,366 --> 01:13:16,466
I would freaking not.
2144
01:13:17,233 --> 01:13:19,600
It is not even worth it at $1,000.
2145
01:13:20,133 --> 01:13:21,266
I know, you returned yours.
2146
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:25,233
Yeah, it was comfortable, it was.
2147
01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:29,833
I have the Legion Go 2 still, I like it.
2148
01:13:29,833 --> 01:13:31,133
I might sell it at one point
2149
01:13:31,133 --> 01:13:32,033
because I have the Steam Deck
2150
01:13:32,033 --> 01:13:33,600
and I have my main computer, but I'm
2151
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,600
enjoying it as I have it
2152
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:35,833
because it is the best screen.
2153
01:13:36,266 --> 01:13:38,266
It is an 8.8, but like size wise,
2154
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,366
I don't feel it being a
2155
01:13:40,366 --> 01:13:41,633
huge difference over this.
2156
01:13:41,633 --> 01:13:42,133
Like the controller
2157
01:13:42,133 --> 01:13:44,133
handle does feel nicer on this,
2158
01:13:44,266 --> 01:13:45,666
but it is ruined by
2159
01:13:45,666 --> 01:13:47,199
everything else in between it.
2160
01:13:47,666 --> 01:13:50,300
So, AK that screen, I just,
2161
01:13:51,166 --> 01:13:52,733
it's so disgusting, sorry.
2162
01:13:53,233 --> 01:13:55,733
Just like, it's smaller
2163
01:13:55,733 --> 01:13:57,166
than the Steam Deck LCD
2164
01:13:57,766 --> 01:13:58,933
just because the aspect ratio.
2165
01:13:58,933 --> 01:13:59,966
It's just all around just
2166
01:13:59,966 --> 01:14:01,033
not a pleasant experience.
2167
01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:04,366
No, it's not, like, it's like,
2168
01:14:04,666 --> 01:14:06,500
I mean, I've thought about
2169
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:08,133
upgrading my system, right?
2170
01:14:08,133 --> 01:14:10,600
Like I have a, I don't even remember.
2171
01:14:11,233 --> 01:14:13,866
I have 128 gigs of RAM in this thing
2172
01:14:14,233 --> 01:14:14,966
and it's like, if I wanted
2173
01:14:14,966 --> 01:14:16,399
to like upgrade from there
2174
01:14:16,633 --> 01:14:17,300
or even like just
2175
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:19,366
stay in parity with that,
2176
01:14:20,033 --> 01:14:23,733
it would be like so beyond my budget.
2177
01:14:24,133 --> 01:14:24,866
Like that would, like
2178
01:14:24,866 --> 01:14:26,733
what I would pay for 128 gigs
2179
01:14:26,733 --> 01:14:29,466
of RAM today would be like.
2180
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:31,633
Yeah, you don't have to
2181
01:14:31,633 --> 01:14:32,466
brag about your retirement.
2182
01:14:32,699 --> 01:14:33,166
I know, right?
2183
01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:34,066
Well, I mean, this is,
2184
01:14:34,066 --> 01:14:37,433
it's only DDR4 at 200,
2185
01:14:37,933 --> 01:14:40,333
2,667 mega transfers.
2186
01:14:40,433 --> 01:14:42,300
People are buying kits and buying DDR4
2187
01:14:42,466 --> 01:14:43,033
and other stuff to
2188
01:14:43,033 --> 01:14:44,166
convert down and everything.
2189
01:14:44,166 --> 01:14:44,766
You didn't do that?
2190
01:14:45,566 --> 01:14:46,166
Yeah, it's, it's.
2191
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:47,866
I don't think they're backwards.
2192
01:14:49,266 --> 01:14:50,266
Yeah, I didn't think that worked.
2193
01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:50,600
What's that?
2194
01:14:50,833 --> 01:14:52,199
Well, I mean, if you, like,
2195
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,133
the thing is like, if you
2196
01:14:54,133 --> 01:14:56,133
have like a DDR4 motherboard,
2197
01:14:57,133 --> 01:15:00,633
upgrading to a higher thing is like,
2198
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:03,166
probably the smarter solution, right?
2199
01:15:04,433 --> 01:15:05,366
Then buying a new
2200
01:15:05,366 --> 01:15:07,566
motherboard and getting DDR5.
2201
01:15:09,766 --> 01:15:10,199
Yeah.
2202
01:15:10,233 --> 01:15:10,433
Yeah.
2203
01:15:12,533 --> 01:15:12,833
I don't know.
2204
01:15:13,366 --> 01:15:14,066
I just don't have.
2205
01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:14,966
I mean, people are.
2206
01:15:14,966 --> 01:15:15,666
I just don't have the patience.
2207
01:15:16,066 --> 01:15:17,566
Getting laptop kits too.
2208
01:15:17,966 --> 01:15:18,933
They're getting the laptop RAM,
2209
01:15:19,333 --> 01:15:20,766
getting kits to put into their desktop.
2210
01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:21,333
Yeah.
2211
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:22,133
Well, I mean, that's
2212
01:15:22,133 --> 01:15:22,800
what this motherboard
2213
01:15:22,866 --> 01:15:25,866
that Minisform sent me.
2214
01:15:25,866 --> 01:15:28,833
It's using the SODIM form factor.
2215
01:15:29,333 --> 01:15:30,233
Yeah, it's using SODIM.
2216
01:15:30,566 --> 01:15:31,899
I mean, Steam Machine.
2217
01:15:33,266 --> 01:15:33,500
Yeah.
2218
01:15:34,133 --> 01:15:34,933
Also using SODIM.
2219
01:15:37,399 --> 01:15:38,533
Yeah, it's gonna be, it's
2220
01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:39,766
gonna be a, like, this is,
2221
01:15:40,566 --> 01:15:41,666
well, and the thing is,
2222
01:15:42,633 --> 01:15:43,566
Microsoft didn't realize
2223
01:15:43,566 --> 01:15:45,933
how popular the ROG Xbox LAX
2224
01:15:45,933 --> 01:15:47,899
was going to be and sell out,
2225
01:15:48,433 --> 01:15:48,766
because they just
2226
01:15:48,766 --> 01:15:49,600
weren't prepared for that.
2227
01:15:50,066 --> 01:15:51,933
And so they're upping production too.
2228
01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:53,033
We'll see though.
2229
01:15:53,033 --> 01:15:54,633
I have a feeling that this, like,
2230
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:55,466
if they increase the
2231
01:15:55,466 --> 01:15:56,399
price at all this year,
2232
01:15:56,966 --> 01:15:59,833
I think ASUS will really suffer.
2233
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:02,699
I think they'll have a lot of these
2234
01:16:02,699 --> 01:16:04,733
devices on in stock.
2235
01:16:04,733 --> 01:16:05,133
I think they'll
2236
01:16:05,133 --> 01:16:07,566
eventually fatigue themselves out
2237
01:16:07,566 --> 01:16:09,433
when the price increases, but we'll see.
2238
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,033
Yeah.
2239
01:16:10,766 --> 01:16:12,000
I mean, I don't know, dude.
2240
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,433
It's all driven by AI,
2241
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:16,966
and everybody wants AI.
2242
01:16:18,233 --> 01:16:19,100
And Satya Nadella
2243
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:20,933
from Microsoft wants you
2244
01:16:20,933 --> 01:16:22,866
to stop calling it AI slop,
2245
01:16:23,966 --> 01:16:26,366
because it hurts his little CEO fee fees.
2246
01:16:28,733 --> 01:16:29,333
I agree.
2247
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:30,166
We should call it
2248
01:16:30,166 --> 01:16:32,166
something else, like AI dog shit.
2249
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,533
I mean, I think there's a difference too.
2250
01:16:37,566 --> 01:16:39,166
I don't like that if it's AI,
2251
01:16:39,366 --> 01:16:40,566
people just call it slop automatically,
2252
01:16:40,566 --> 01:16:42,366
where I'm like, no,
2253
01:16:42,633 --> 01:16:43,666
doesn't mean everything's slop.
2254
01:16:43,666 --> 01:16:45,066
That's, I think, what I'm fatigued with,
2255
01:16:45,066 --> 01:16:46,433
where I'm like, okay,
2256
01:16:46,433 --> 01:16:48,333
guys, AI slop or whatever.
2257
01:16:49,399 --> 01:16:50,833
I think we are overusing a
2258
01:16:50,833 --> 01:16:52,000
lot of these terms too much,
2259
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,399
to where I'm like, it's
2260
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:54,566
obvious this isn't slop
2261
01:16:54,566 --> 01:16:55,366
that you're calling slop.
2262
01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:55,600
Well.
2263
01:16:56,333 --> 01:16:58,466
But at the same time,
2264
01:16:59,133 --> 01:17:00,733
you're gonna have to up your game
2265
01:17:00,733 --> 01:17:01,966
in 2026 if you don't
2266
01:17:01,966 --> 01:17:02,966
want anyone to be calling it
2267
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:03,800
anything slop.
2268
01:17:04,166 --> 01:17:07,399
And also in this context, yeah,
2269
01:17:07,399 --> 01:17:09,433
he's being a shithead on this.
2270
01:17:09,466 --> 01:17:11,333
Here's the thing, slop
2271
01:17:11,333 --> 01:17:14,166
to me evokes the idea
2272
01:17:14,833 --> 01:17:19,133
of just, you know, refuse, right?
2273
01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:21,266
Like it's like the
2274
01:17:21,266 --> 01:17:23,733
leftovers of what you would,
2275
01:17:23,866 --> 01:17:25,133
you'd feed like your
2276
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:28,199
leftovers to your pig or whatever.
2277
01:17:28,666 --> 01:17:29,333
That's slop.
2278
01:17:29,933 --> 01:17:30,766
And to me--
2279
01:17:30,866 --> 01:17:32,733
It's undesirable and it's leftover.
2280
01:17:33,166 --> 01:17:36,133
Like yeah, it's undesirable, old food,
2281
01:17:36,366 --> 01:17:37,899
or in this case, undesirable content.
2282
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:39,433
But that's not always the case.
2283
01:17:39,433 --> 01:17:40,000
That's my problem.
2284
01:17:40,233 --> 01:17:41,033
Well, to me it is.
2285
01:17:42,066 --> 01:17:45,366
Because AI can't do anything creative.
2286
01:17:45,366 --> 01:17:47,166
It can't generate new things.
2287
01:17:47,166 --> 01:17:48,300
It can only remix
2288
01:17:48,300 --> 01:17:49,833
what it already has seen.
2289
01:17:50,733 --> 01:17:52,033
So to me--
2290
01:17:52,366 --> 01:17:53,166
I would argue there's
2291
01:17:53,166 --> 01:17:54,466
some creativity in there,
2292
01:17:54,466 --> 01:17:55,766
but yeah, it's not like,
2293
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,133
usually it's the prompter
2294
01:17:58,533 --> 01:18:00,633
that adds a flare of
2295
01:18:00,633 --> 01:18:01,633
the creativity to it.
2296
01:18:02,933 --> 01:18:05,466
But it really depends on stuff like it.
2297
01:18:05,466 --> 01:18:06,066
Yeah, I don't know.
2298
01:18:06,066 --> 01:18:06,266
I just--
2299
01:18:06,733 --> 01:18:09,333
It's an argument that I could get into.
2300
01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:10,466
It's one that we get
2301
01:18:10,466 --> 01:18:11,966
into frequently on the show.
2302
01:18:12,733 --> 01:18:13,199
I know.
2303
01:18:13,399 --> 01:18:13,600
But--
2304
01:18:13,966 --> 01:18:15,266
And I like, the thing
2305
01:18:15,266 --> 01:18:20,100
is, I think AI is going,
2306
01:18:20,633 --> 01:18:21,566
we're a little cooked
2307
01:18:21,566 --> 01:18:22,333
when it comes to AI.
2308
01:18:22,333 --> 01:18:23,366
I think we're going to
2309
01:18:23,366 --> 01:18:24,333
become more and more cooked
2310
01:18:24,333 --> 01:18:26,133
when it comes to AI in multiple ways.
2311
01:18:26,866 --> 01:18:27,666
But I'm going to
2312
01:18:27,666 --> 01:18:29,166
recognize that it will sometimes
2313
01:18:29,433 --> 01:18:33,833
create very interesting non-slop stuff,
2314
01:18:34,733 --> 01:18:36,766
but I have to massage it there.
2315
01:18:36,766 --> 01:18:38,633
I have to do a lot of work to get there.
2316
01:18:38,633 --> 01:18:39,066
That's fine.
2317
01:18:42,066 --> 01:18:43,233
But at the same time, is
2318
01:18:43,233 --> 01:18:44,333
that a good thing or not?
2319
01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:45,800
Is using generative a good thing or not?
2320
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:51,933
I'm going off board on this, but.
2321
01:18:52,866 --> 01:18:53,533
Yeah, I'm a fence center
2322
01:18:53,533 --> 01:18:55,000
on this issue, I guess.
2323
01:18:55,699 --> 01:18:56,699
I don't like that.
2324
01:18:57,233 --> 01:18:58,899
He's like, you can't call it slop though.
2325
01:18:58,933 --> 01:19:00,833
Okay, then make sure it's
2326
01:19:00,833 --> 01:19:02,466
good then, as substance.
2327
01:19:03,433 --> 01:19:05,633
So, so Nadella wants to
2328
01:19:05,633 --> 01:19:07,033
talk about the arguments
2329
01:19:07,033 --> 01:19:08,566
of slop versus sophistication.
2330
01:19:09,666 --> 01:19:10,666
Do you guys ever see
2331
01:19:10,666 --> 01:19:11,933
anyone saying anything
2332
01:19:11,933 --> 01:19:13,266
as AI sophistication?
2333
01:19:14,566 --> 01:19:14,766
No.
2334
01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:16,933
I don't.
2335
01:19:17,833 --> 01:19:18,533
Sophisticated?
2336
01:19:18,566 --> 01:19:19,466
Sophisticated, yeah,
2337
01:19:19,466 --> 01:19:20,366
the technology itself.
2338
01:19:21,533 --> 01:19:24,533
Yeah, but the stuff that gets generated
2339
01:19:24,733 --> 01:19:26,866
from that Gen AI sophistication.
2340
01:19:28,133 --> 01:19:30,066
Yeah, now if you're
2341
01:19:30,066 --> 01:19:31,566
saying, hey, write me a story,
2342
01:19:31,866 --> 01:19:33,699
that's all you do, you're
2343
01:19:33,699 --> 01:19:34,699
not gonna get sophistication.
2344
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,833
It is still to this
2345
01:19:36,833 --> 01:19:37,666
point, and I don't think
2346
01:19:37,666 --> 01:19:38,933
it's gonna change for a long time.
2347
01:19:39,366 --> 01:19:43,166
You still have to massage the way it goes
2348
01:19:43,466 --> 01:19:44,633
to get sophisticated stuff.
2349
01:19:44,666 --> 01:19:44,866
Right.
2350
01:19:46,733 --> 01:19:47,699
Also, you know what's interesting?
2351
01:19:48,066 --> 01:19:48,566
That just might be a problem.
2352
01:19:48,666 --> 01:19:50,133
Slop was the word of
2353
01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:52,399
the year, this past year.
2354
01:19:53,333 --> 01:19:53,533
Yeah.
2355
01:19:54,166 --> 01:19:54,366
Yeah.
2356
01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:57,433
There were actually quite a few.
2357
01:19:57,466 --> 01:19:59,266
I think the biggest diss is not making
2358
01:19:59,266 --> 01:20:00,433
something AI related.
2359
01:20:01,033 --> 01:20:03,033
I've had stuff called slop, AI slop,
2360
01:20:03,033 --> 01:20:04,133
that I've posted and stuff,
2361
01:20:04,333 --> 01:20:06,266
and that's the biggest diss.
2362
01:20:06,266 --> 01:20:06,566
I think you can just--
2363
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,933
Well, there's other words on here too.
2364
01:20:07,933 --> 01:20:09,166
Like, this is just AI slop.
2365
01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:10,333
There's a little word on here too.
2366
01:20:10,866 --> 01:20:12,833
Garymander is another major word.
2367
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,266
Garymander, you mean gerrymander?
2368
01:20:16,333 --> 01:20:17,300
Yeah, gerrymander, sorry.
2369
01:20:19,633 --> 01:20:21,233
I thought there was a new meaning to it.
2370
01:20:21,266 --> 01:20:22,033
Touch grass.
2371
01:20:25,333 --> 01:20:25,866
Performative.
2372
01:20:28,333 --> 01:20:29,266
Touch grass has been around for so long.
2373
01:20:29,266 --> 01:20:31,033
Touch grass makes me upset
2374
01:20:31,166 --> 01:20:33,866
because it was coined by an asshole.
2375
01:20:34,533 --> 01:20:35,966
So I just don't like that it's--
2376
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:38,833
Well, usually when you're telling someone
2377
01:20:38,833 --> 01:20:39,933
to touch grass, you're gonna be an
2378
01:20:39,933 --> 01:20:40,666
asshole, to be honest.
2379
01:20:41,133 --> 01:20:42,100
Must be perfectly flake.
2380
01:20:42,866 --> 01:20:43,066
Yeah.
2381
01:20:44,066 --> 01:20:44,899
Yeah, sometimes you have
2382
01:20:44,899 --> 01:20:45,733
to be an asshole though.
2383
01:20:47,033 --> 01:20:48,066
Some people really do
2384
01:20:48,066 --> 01:20:48,866
though, to be honest.
2385
01:20:49,633 --> 01:20:51,833
See, performative, what does this mean?
2386
01:20:53,333 --> 01:20:53,633
Oh.
2387
01:20:55,766 --> 01:20:56,000
Terrace.
2388
01:20:57,433 --> 01:20:57,633
Yeah.
2389
01:21:00,699 --> 01:21:02,133
Performative macha.
2390
01:21:02,133 --> 01:21:02,699
I feel like some of these things--
2391
01:21:03,766 --> 01:21:04,633
That is so true.
2392
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:07,766
Are like half a decade old.
2393
01:21:08,133 --> 01:21:08,933
Some of the stuff is,
2394
01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:10,766
they really missed it.
2395
01:21:11,333 --> 01:21:12,933
Ooh, tariff is another word.
2396
01:21:15,233 --> 01:21:15,899
Six, seven.
2397
01:21:17,266 --> 01:21:17,533
Yikes.
2398
01:21:20,366 --> 01:21:21,333
Six, seven, yikes.
2399
01:21:21,833 --> 01:21:23,800
I mean, it's just youth.
2400
01:21:24,333 --> 01:21:25,733
I say yikes because of
2401
01:21:25,733 --> 01:21:27,399
all of the reaction to it
2402
01:21:27,399 --> 01:21:29,433
and not because kids are saying it.
2403
01:21:29,433 --> 01:21:31,233
Like the reaction to it is so
2404
01:21:31,233 --> 01:21:33,266
ridiculously overblown.
2405
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:34,533
What's the reaction to it?
2406
01:21:35,066 --> 01:21:36,166
That's the word of the day.
2407
01:21:36,966 --> 01:21:38,166
Okay, you don't know how
2408
01:21:38,166 --> 01:21:40,366
to parent if you do that.
2409
01:21:41,133 --> 01:21:42,033
Here's a secret guys.
2410
01:21:42,333 --> 01:21:42,966
I'm gonna give a secret
2411
01:21:42,966 --> 01:21:43,833
to anyone that has kids.
2412
01:21:44,466 --> 01:21:46,733
Just lean into it and it will fade away.
2413
01:21:46,966 --> 01:21:48,466
I even say six, seven sometimes
2414
01:21:48,833 --> 01:21:50,033
and you know what my kids don't know.
2415
01:21:50,033 --> 01:21:50,833
They don't say six, seven.
2416
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,300
They don't say six, seven.
2417
01:21:53,333 --> 01:21:54,866
In fact, one of them's tired of it.
2418
01:21:55,966 --> 01:21:56,433
I don't care.
2419
01:21:56,833 --> 01:21:58,633
It is kid jargon.
2420
01:21:58,899 --> 01:21:59,766
I had slang and stuff
2421
01:21:59,766 --> 01:22:00,866
like this when I was a kid.
2422
01:22:01,433 --> 01:22:03,066
It does not matter if
2423
01:22:03,066 --> 01:22:04,166
this is ruining your life,
2424
01:22:04,566 --> 01:22:08,133
which I will say this is
2425
01:22:08,133 --> 01:22:10,199
annoying for the opposite reasons.
2426
01:22:10,533 --> 01:22:11,566
I live in the Bible
2427
01:22:11,566 --> 01:22:13,133
belt of Utah technically.
2428
01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:14,333
I live in Utah County right now,
2429
01:22:14,333 --> 01:22:15,833
which I'm trying to get out of.
2430
01:22:16,466 --> 01:22:17,333
Even though, you know,
2431
01:22:17,833 --> 01:22:19,133
the real Mormon housewives
2432
01:22:19,133 --> 01:22:19,966
or whatever like that
2433
01:22:19,966 --> 01:22:21,266
show is based in this area
2434
01:22:21,466 --> 01:22:25,033
but I'm in Costco line
2435
01:22:25,866 --> 01:22:28,266
and they start talking about six, seven.
2436
01:22:28,266 --> 01:22:28,899
They're like, yeah, I heard
2437
01:22:28,899 --> 01:22:30,066
something like it's demonic
2438
01:22:30,333 --> 01:22:31,899
or I'm like, not
2439
01:22:31,899 --> 01:22:33,333
everything has to be demonic
2440
01:22:33,733 --> 01:22:34,433
just cause you don't
2441
01:22:34,433 --> 01:22:35,633
understand it does not mean
2442
01:22:35,733 --> 01:22:36,366
it's up the devil.
2443
01:22:36,366 --> 01:22:37,166
Yeah, maybe you're just stupid.
2444
01:22:37,166 --> 01:22:38,033
Oh my God.
2445
01:22:38,133 --> 01:22:38,399
No offense.
2446
01:22:39,666 --> 01:22:40,433
They are stupid.
2447
01:22:41,133 --> 01:22:42,366
They don't, they explain,
2448
01:22:42,566 --> 01:22:43,533
and this is the Bible belt.
2449
01:22:43,533 --> 01:22:44,466
This is this area too.
2450
01:22:45,133 --> 01:22:45,766
If there's not an
2451
01:22:45,766 --> 01:22:47,366
explanation, it is up the devil
2452
01:22:47,633 --> 01:22:50,300
and you can't, if you want
2453
01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:51,533
me to judge your intelligence
2454
01:22:51,533 --> 01:22:53,866
that go that route, sorry, rant over.
2455
01:22:54,766 --> 01:22:56,300
That's the only part of six, seven
2456
01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:57,166
that I have been annoyed
2457
01:22:57,166 --> 01:22:58,533
about is because people try
2458
01:22:58,666 --> 01:23:00,966
to make it something
2459
01:23:00,966 --> 01:23:02,600
that's evil and I'm tired of it.
2460
01:23:03,133 --> 01:23:03,699
I grew up with that.
2461
01:23:03,966 --> 01:23:04,333
I'm tired of it.
2462
01:23:04,333 --> 01:23:05,633
Evil is what you don't understand.
2463
01:23:06,933 --> 01:23:09,699
Like Lake Jess, whatever this is.
2464
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:10,800
I'm not even gonna try.
2465
01:23:12,633 --> 01:23:13,666
Yeah, what is this?
2466
01:23:13,699 --> 01:23:14,566
I've never even heard of this.
2467
01:23:15,233 --> 01:23:16,733
Oh, cause it was in a spelling bee.
2468
01:23:17,666 --> 01:23:17,866
What?
2469
01:23:18,366 --> 01:23:18,566
What?
2470
01:23:19,566 --> 01:23:20,766
In the hit Roblox game
2471
01:23:20,766 --> 01:23:21,966
spelling bee, the name,
2472
01:23:22,466 --> 01:23:23,366
the lake's name.
2473
01:23:23,733 --> 01:23:26,366
Roblox stole the spelling bee concept
2474
01:23:26,366 --> 01:23:28,033
and made it their own thing.
2475
01:23:28,733 --> 01:23:29,266
Wow.
2476
01:23:30,033 --> 01:23:30,633
I mean.
2477
01:23:30,699 --> 01:23:31,533
What kid would that, what
2478
01:23:31,533 --> 01:23:32,766
kid would willingly play
2479
01:23:32,766 --> 01:23:34,366
the spelling bee on Roblox?
2480
01:23:34,966 --> 01:23:35,966
That's my question.
2481
01:23:35,966 --> 01:23:36,766
Why is it a hit game?
2482
01:23:38,733 --> 01:23:38,933
Yeah.
2483
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,133
It's another six, seven thing.
2484
01:23:41,466 --> 01:23:43,333
I would just not worry about it.
2485
01:23:43,333 --> 01:23:44,000
It's a mod.
2486
01:23:44,166 --> 01:23:44,766
It's a game that they
2487
01:23:44,766 --> 01:23:47,466
created by kids, for kids,
2488
01:23:48,166 --> 01:23:50,333
that Roblox is making money off of.
2489
01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:50,533
So.
2490
01:23:51,033 --> 01:23:51,233
Yeah.
2491
01:23:51,566 --> 01:23:51,766
Yeah.
2492
01:23:52,333 --> 01:23:54,266
It has an alternate name, Webster Lake.
2493
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:57,800
Wow, that's convenient.
2494
01:23:58,766 --> 01:24:00,500
Convenient coming from United Webster.
2495
01:24:02,633 --> 01:24:02,833
Yeah.
2496
01:24:03,133 --> 01:24:03,633
I mean, if they're
2497
01:24:03,633 --> 01:24:05,333
learning how to spell some words,
2498
01:24:05,333 --> 01:24:06,166
then you know, at least
2499
01:24:06,166 --> 01:24:08,333
there's a little veiled learning.
2500
01:24:09,366 --> 01:24:11,233
It's like that one viral British village
2501
01:24:11,466 --> 01:24:12,933
that I saw online.
2502
01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:15,166
A news report on.
2503
01:24:15,166 --> 01:24:15,433
Oh yeah.
2504
01:24:18,366 --> 01:24:18,533
Yeah.
2505
01:24:19,133 --> 01:24:20,366
I should, I'm not gonna try.
2506
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,166
I couldn't tell you
2507
01:24:21,166 --> 01:24:22,333
what it was, but I know it.
2508
01:24:22,733 --> 01:24:24,466
So, should we, so I
2509
01:24:24,466 --> 01:24:25,166
got a poll for everyone.
2510
01:24:25,933 --> 01:24:27,766
Should we stop calling it AI Slop?
2511
01:24:29,266 --> 01:24:31,766
As per Mr. Nadella?
2512
01:24:32,433 --> 01:24:33,633
Well, he wants us to call
2513
01:24:33,633 --> 01:24:36,133
it cognitive amplifier tools
2514
01:24:36,633 --> 01:24:38,766
because he had a rib removed last week
2515
01:24:38,766 --> 01:24:40,466
so he could fillet himself even harder.
2516
01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:42,266
Well, I mean.
2517
01:24:42,566 --> 01:24:42,766
Oh, shh.
2518
01:24:43,566 --> 01:24:44,633
This is not the bonus episode.
2519
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:45,766
Yeah, oh my God.
2520
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:46,399
That is good.
2521
01:24:46,866 --> 01:24:47,066
English.
2522
01:24:47,866 --> 01:24:49,800
We needed a cold open, guys.
2523
01:24:51,266 --> 01:24:52,566
Nah, he, he, he welded
2524
01:24:52,566 --> 01:24:53,566
in some intelligent talk,
2525
01:24:53,566 --> 01:24:54,166
so it's good.
2526
01:24:54,166 --> 01:24:54,633
We're all good.
2527
01:24:54,866 --> 01:24:55,933
No, that's, that's hilarious.
2528
01:24:56,366 --> 01:24:57,000
But here's my thing
2529
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,633
with cognitive amplifiers.
2530
01:24:58,899 --> 01:25:00,399
What is zero times any numbers?
2531
01:25:05,466 --> 01:25:06,966
I think I love you.
2532
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,000
That was perfect.
2533
01:25:08,433 --> 01:25:09,333
That was so good.
2534
01:25:09,733 --> 01:25:11,333
(sighs)
2535
01:25:12,733 --> 01:25:14,066
I just, I'm sorry, that
2536
01:25:14,066 --> 01:25:14,899
didn't hit me as hard.
2537
01:25:14,899 --> 01:25:15,633
Like, it is good.
2538
01:25:16,366 --> 01:25:18,133
But I think there's some
2539
01:25:18,133 --> 01:25:19,533
decent AI stuff out there.
2540
01:25:19,766 --> 01:25:21,233
It's just, there's also Slop.
2541
01:25:21,266 --> 01:25:21,666
I agree.
2542
01:25:22,266 --> 01:25:24,100
So, to try to change
2543
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,333
it from saying AI Slop,
2544
01:25:25,333 --> 01:25:26,933
yeah, no, if it's Slop, it's Slop.
2545
01:25:26,933 --> 01:25:27,766
And there will be Slop
2546
01:25:27,766 --> 01:25:29,166
for a decade to come.
2547
01:25:29,766 --> 01:25:31,600
But like, trying to change it
2548
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:32,266
because it hurts your
2549
01:25:32,266 --> 01:25:33,066
feelings is bizarre.
2550
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:35,133
The problem here is that
2551
01:25:35,133 --> 01:25:37,966
he's calling his AI chatbot
2552
01:25:38,699 --> 01:25:41,166
cognitive amplifier tools.
2553
01:25:42,266 --> 01:25:43,366
And, and like,
2554
01:25:43,966 --> 01:25:46,633
arguably you could say that
2555
01:25:46,666 --> 01:25:48,300
about maybe some like
2556
01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:51,233
interactive coding stuff with AI.
2557
01:25:51,566 --> 01:25:55,366
But like, you could call a book a
2558
01:25:55,366 --> 01:25:56,733
cognitive amplifying tool.
2559
01:25:56,933 --> 01:25:59,533
Like you can, dude, like, it's so stupid.
2560
01:26:00,033 --> 01:26:01,300
And these guys are so up
2561
01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:02,699
their own ass about this stuff.
2562
01:26:03,433 --> 01:26:03,866
They are.
2563
01:26:04,199 --> 01:26:05,533
They're the other thing too.
2564
01:26:06,366 --> 01:26:07,166
He needs to retire.
2565
01:26:07,533 --> 01:26:08,433
If you're talking like that, you're retired.
2566
01:26:08,433 --> 01:26:09,500
Here's the other thing too though.
2567
01:26:09,766 --> 01:26:11,266
We've seen on everyone's
2568
01:26:11,266 --> 01:26:12,666
favorite website, x.com,
2569
01:26:13,233 --> 01:26:16,933
home of Grock, the predator at AI.
2570
01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:21,166
But we've seen people
2571
01:26:21,166 --> 01:26:22,899
literally outsource their-
2572
01:26:22,899 --> 01:26:23,466
The predator AI.
2573
01:26:24,033 --> 01:26:26,033
Their cognitive functions to this AI.
2574
01:26:26,766 --> 01:26:27,733
Grock, is this real?
2575
01:26:27,766 --> 01:26:28,566
Grock, is this true?
2576
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,500
We've seen it happen.
2577
01:26:32,133 --> 01:26:33,033
I mean, I'll be honest.
2578
01:26:33,633 --> 01:26:36,166
I do follow those sometimes.
2579
01:26:36,466 --> 01:26:37,433
I will go down that rebel
2580
01:26:37,433 --> 01:26:38,866
cause they will argue with Grock
2581
01:26:38,866 --> 01:26:41,600
and I'm just like, you guys are idiots.
2582
01:26:42,266 --> 01:26:43,166
And it's a little
2583
01:26:43,166 --> 01:26:44,433
hilarious, but at the same time,
2584
01:26:44,433 --> 01:26:46,266
it's like, Gardner's idea
2585
01:26:46,266 --> 01:26:49,566
of essentially banning people
2586
01:26:49,566 --> 01:26:50,833
on the internet is a good idea.
2587
01:26:51,033 --> 01:26:51,666
Grock, is this true?
2588
01:26:53,633 --> 01:26:54,166
Wait, what?
2589
01:26:54,933 --> 01:26:55,666
Your idea with the-
2590
01:26:55,766 --> 01:26:57,066
No, the library card thing.
2591
01:26:57,933 --> 01:26:58,466
But for the internet-
2592
01:26:58,600 --> 01:26:59,300
Library card thing.
2593
01:27:01,366 --> 01:27:02,733
Sorry, I was gonna go down there.
2594
01:27:02,733 --> 01:27:03,366
I mean, some people should
2595
01:27:03,366 --> 01:27:04,066
be banned from the internet,
2596
01:27:04,066 --> 01:27:04,466
let's be honest.
2597
01:27:07,333 --> 01:27:07,866
Timeouts.
2598
01:27:08,633 --> 01:27:10,033
We should put them in internet timeout,
2599
01:27:10,266 --> 01:27:11,600
put them in the North Korean internet.
2600
01:27:13,733 --> 01:27:15,566
I just, I also think it,
2601
01:27:15,566 --> 01:27:17,000
I'm tired of people thinking that they
2602
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:17,733
need to have a voice
2603
01:27:17,733 --> 01:27:18,600
on the internet and
2604
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:19,666
that they deserve one,
2605
01:27:19,899 --> 01:27:21,633
where it's like, you don't need to say
2606
01:27:21,633 --> 01:27:22,500
everything you think.
2607
01:27:22,533 --> 01:27:23,833
This guy deletes my comments.
2608
01:27:24,833 --> 01:27:25,733
Yeah, you're not, yeah.
2609
01:27:26,066 --> 01:27:27,566
I mean, I don't think
2610
01:27:27,566 --> 01:27:28,466
we're special either.
2611
01:27:28,833 --> 01:27:29,800
I mean, I like to think
2612
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:30,666
that I'd have a voice,
2613
01:27:30,666 --> 01:27:32,699
but I also like to not outsource
2614
01:27:32,699 --> 01:27:34,533
my cognitive functions to Grock.
2615
01:27:36,633 --> 01:27:37,566
We're more reserved.
2616
01:27:37,566 --> 01:27:38,233
I didn't find having
2617
01:27:38,233 --> 01:27:41,133
people have free reign.
2618
01:27:41,733 --> 01:27:43,366
I just, you don't have to
2619
01:27:43,366 --> 01:27:44,866
say everything that you think.
2620
01:27:45,433 --> 01:27:46,500
And then on top of it,
2621
01:27:47,533 --> 01:27:48,433
don't get manipulated
2622
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:49,433
and a lot of them get
2623
01:27:49,433 --> 01:27:51,166
manipulated so hard on the internet.
2624
01:27:51,766 --> 01:27:53,600
It's like the problem, I
2625
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:54,866
know I mentioned it earlier,
2626
01:27:54,866 --> 01:27:56,233
we talked about cars a little bit.
2627
01:27:58,533 --> 01:27:59,566
Cars, dude, seriously,
2628
01:28:00,633 --> 01:28:02,466
like people put bumper
2629
01:28:02,466 --> 01:28:03,766
stickers on their cars, right?
2630
01:28:04,166 --> 01:28:05,966
And it's like, they're pithy
2631
01:28:05,966 --> 01:28:08,833
one-liners that people say,
2632
01:28:09,500 --> 01:28:11,133
they use them to like,
2633
01:28:11,733 --> 01:28:13,633
as a thought terminating cliche, right?
2634
01:28:13,633 --> 01:28:14,800
They use them as like,
2635
01:28:16,266 --> 01:28:19,333
these are memes that represent who I am.
2636
01:28:19,699 --> 01:28:21,166
And it's the exact same
2637
01:28:21,166 --> 01:28:22,399
thing on the internet, right?
2638
01:28:22,766 --> 01:28:23,766
And it's like, we're
2639
01:28:23,766 --> 01:28:25,233
outsourcing the creation
2640
01:28:25,233 --> 01:28:26,733
of those things to
2641
01:28:26,733 --> 01:28:29,133
these corporate colonizers
2642
01:28:29,133 --> 01:28:30,666
who want to replace
2643
01:28:30,666 --> 01:28:32,833
our critical faculties
2644
01:28:33,466 --> 01:28:35,166
with their AI models.
2645
01:28:35,866 --> 01:28:37,399
And I just won't do it
2646
01:28:37,399 --> 01:28:38,766
and I won't engage with it.
2647
01:28:38,766 --> 01:28:39,833
And I will be
2648
01:28:39,833 --> 01:28:41,833
critical of it for all time.
2649
01:28:42,533 --> 01:28:43,533
It's like, I don't know,
2650
01:28:43,933 --> 01:28:44,733
these chatbots are
2651
01:28:44,733 --> 01:28:46,666
just like meme factories
2652
01:28:46,866 --> 01:28:48,433
because they never create anything new.
2653
01:28:49,066 --> 01:28:50,933
They're just putting out
2654
01:28:50,933 --> 01:28:53,633
memes that people can pretend
2655
01:28:54,266 --> 01:28:55,199
that they invented or
2656
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:57,066
pretend that represents them
2657
01:28:57,066 --> 01:28:58,100
in some unique way.
2658
01:28:58,333 --> 01:28:59,133
It's the same thing as
2659
01:28:59,133 --> 01:29:00,100
bumper stickers to me.
2660
01:29:00,766 --> 01:29:01,399
I'm not gonna lie.
2661
01:29:01,899 --> 01:29:04,133
I find bumper stickers very tacky,
2662
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:05,633
no matter what the message is.
2663
01:29:06,233 --> 01:29:06,433
Yeah.
2664
01:29:10,466 --> 01:29:13,366
I think you've convinced me.
2665
01:29:13,666 --> 01:29:15,766
I think the internet's fine.
2666
01:29:15,766 --> 01:29:19,166
I can go look at X and look at that.
2667
01:29:19,166 --> 01:29:20,300
I have to choose to look at that.
2668
01:29:20,300 --> 01:29:21,366
Bumper stickers, I don't get to choose.
2669
01:29:21,366 --> 01:29:22,066
I have to look at it.
2670
01:29:22,399 --> 01:29:23,466
So let's ban bumper stickers.
2671
01:29:24,333 --> 01:29:25,033
I agree with you, Gordon.
2672
01:29:25,033 --> 01:29:25,766
I didn't say that.
2673
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,533
No, I know you didn't say that.
2674
01:29:28,966 --> 01:29:29,899
I'm just having fun.
2675
01:29:30,466 --> 01:29:32,000
I, ugh.
2676
01:29:32,133 --> 01:29:32,500
What do you think
2677
01:29:32,500 --> 01:29:33,533
about people that put like
2678
01:29:33,966 --> 01:29:36,000
entire anime girl decals in their cars?
2679
01:29:37,233 --> 01:29:38,433
I've never seen that.
2680
01:29:38,433 --> 01:29:39,233
I think they're brave.
2681
01:29:39,466 --> 01:29:39,733
Really?
2682
01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:40,966
They're brave.
2683
01:29:41,633 --> 01:29:42,933
I think we should have gotten yourself.
2684
01:29:43,066 --> 01:29:43,833
I would never do that.
2685
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:44,866
Oh, you might look in real
2686
01:29:44,866 --> 01:29:46,466
life or like on the internet.
2687
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:50,933
Let's do it on the next bonus episode.
2688
01:29:51,399 --> 01:29:52,533
That could be a topic and
2689
01:29:52,533 --> 01:29:54,166
you could show him some of the.
2690
01:29:54,233 --> 01:29:54,500
This.
2691
01:29:56,033 --> 01:29:57,266
I've, what I have
2692
01:29:57,266 --> 01:29:59,833
seen are like, you know,
2693
01:30:00,166 --> 01:30:01,399
idiots from Massachusetts
2694
01:30:01,399 --> 01:30:04,266
who have like, you know, RGB,
2695
01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:06,100
like lighting up the
2696
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:07,633
car, like underneath the,
2697
01:30:07,933 --> 01:30:08,833
underneath the car.
2698
01:30:09,033 --> 01:30:09,666
Have you seen those?
2699
01:30:09,966 --> 01:30:10,266
Oh.
2700
01:30:10,266 --> 01:30:10,466
Like.
2701
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:12,033
My brother has one of those.
2702
01:30:12,566 --> 01:30:13,566
I've never seen any
2703
01:30:13,566 --> 01:30:14,899
car in the state of Maine
2704
01:30:15,533 --> 01:30:16,866
with a Maine license plate
2705
01:30:16,866 --> 01:30:18,833
with like LEDs lighting the
2706
01:30:18,833 --> 01:30:19,899
ground underneath the
2707
01:30:19,899 --> 01:30:21,166
car while it's driving.
2708
01:30:21,899 --> 01:30:23,433
But, but I have seen
2709
01:30:23,433 --> 01:30:24,633
those many, many times
2710
01:30:24,833 --> 01:30:25,699
in almost all of them
2711
01:30:25,699 --> 01:30:26,533
are from Massachusetts.
2712
01:30:26,833 --> 01:30:27,466
Cause that's one of
2713
01:30:27,466 --> 01:30:28,933
our closest neighbors.
2714
01:30:29,833 --> 01:30:31,399
My brother has a car that does that
2715
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:32,933
and he installed them himself.
2716
01:30:33,866 --> 01:30:35,033
Oh man. I don't like them.
2717
01:30:35,033 --> 01:30:35,433
He's a car guy.
2718
01:30:35,433 --> 01:30:36,166
I think they're super distracting.
2719
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,000
I'm okay time and place though.
2720
01:30:40,733 --> 01:30:41,666
If you're on the freeway and
2721
01:30:41,666 --> 01:30:43,366
I'm driving, let's say like,
2722
01:30:43,366 --> 01:30:44,033
cause I go visit my
2723
01:30:44,033 --> 01:30:45,566
parents four hours away.
2724
01:30:46,333 --> 01:30:47,399
If I'm driving that freeway
2725
01:30:47,399 --> 01:30:48,633
stretch and you have LEDs,
2726
01:30:48,633 --> 01:30:49,666
I'm going to be pissed off.
2727
01:30:49,666 --> 01:30:50,199
Cause it's just gonna be mad.
2728
01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:50,666
I don't know if it's, I
2729
01:30:50,666 --> 01:30:51,666
think RGB is pretty cool.
2730
01:30:52,433 --> 01:30:53,666
I don't, I don't.
2731
01:30:54,266 --> 01:30:55,666
No, I agree.
2732
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,133
If you're in the city and
2733
01:30:57,133 --> 01:30:58,433
it's just every once in a while
2734
01:30:59,033 --> 01:31:00,466
or I don't know time and place.
2735
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:01,266
If it's the middle of the
2736
01:31:01,266 --> 01:31:02,133
night and you're driving down
2737
01:31:02,133 --> 01:31:03,033
the highway and you got your
2738
01:31:03,033 --> 01:31:05,300
LEDs on and it's like rainbow
2739
01:31:05,399 --> 01:31:09,333
pattern RGB, I'm like, get off the road.
2740
01:31:10,733 --> 01:31:11,166
It's so.
2741
01:31:11,766 --> 01:31:13,466
It's distracting and it can be bright.
2742
01:31:13,766 --> 01:31:13,833
It's dangerous.
2743
01:31:13,833 --> 01:31:14,833
And I just don't like it.
2744
01:31:15,466 --> 01:31:17,233
Dude, as it like, okay,
2745
01:31:17,233 --> 01:31:19,566
I am 37 years old, right?
2746
01:31:20,033 --> 01:31:21,766
Like my eyesight driving
2747
01:31:21,766 --> 01:31:23,366
at night has like diminished
2748
01:31:23,666 --> 01:31:24,266
significantly.
2749
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,933
It's like the less
2750
01:31:25,933 --> 01:31:27,666
distraction, the more I can see,
2751
01:31:27,966 --> 01:31:29,266
the better it is, the
2752
01:31:29,266 --> 01:31:30,300
safer it's going to be.
2753
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:31,600
Like I don't like it.
2754
01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:33,100
I agree with you.
2755
01:31:33,333 --> 01:31:34,366
And if that's the case,
2756
01:31:34,366 --> 01:31:35,466
we needed band trucks.
2757
01:31:35,466 --> 01:31:37,466
What if you just, what if you just
2758
01:31:37,466 --> 01:31:38,933
accidentally crashed
2759
01:31:39,033 --> 01:31:40,066
into one of those
2760
01:31:40,066 --> 01:31:41,533
cars with the LED lights?
2761
01:31:42,233 --> 01:31:43,533
Well, then it's still my fault.
2762
01:31:43,933 --> 01:31:44,766
I wouldn't do that.
2763
01:31:45,133 --> 01:31:45,433
True.
2764
01:31:47,033 --> 01:31:47,800
Right, I crashed into it
2765
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:48,366
and you're gonna have to sit
2766
01:31:48,366 --> 01:31:49,966
there for like an hour and
2767
01:31:49,966 --> 01:31:51,366
suffering while it's just
2768
01:31:51,433 --> 01:31:52,166
flashing in your head.
2769
01:31:53,733 --> 01:31:54,366
You know what else is?
2770
01:31:54,833 --> 01:31:55,600
You're just getting a
2771
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:56,666
rave the whole time.
2772
01:31:57,366 --> 01:31:57,466
Yeah, you are also
2773
01:31:57,466 --> 01:31:59,633
suffering and flash in like,
2774
01:31:59,866 --> 01:32:00,966
gonna flash in your head forever.
2775
01:32:02,533 --> 01:32:03,566
That was a terrible, that
2776
01:32:03,566 --> 01:32:04,766
was a terrible transition.
2777
01:32:05,233 --> 01:32:06,166
You set it up though.
2778
01:32:06,433 --> 01:32:07,433
We got it, we got there.
2779
01:32:08,300 --> 01:32:09,133
You gotta finish it.
2780
01:32:09,433 --> 01:32:09,633
Anthem.
2781
01:32:11,266 --> 01:32:11,800
Anthem is dying.
2782
01:32:12,366 --> 01:32:13,233
Not only is it dying,
2783
01:32:13,233 --> 01:32:14,133
it's going to be dead.
2784
01:32:14,833 --> 01:32:16,466
And while StopKillingGames is still
2785
01:32:16,466 --> 01:32:18,000
raging on in the EU,
2786
01:32:18,866 --> 01:32:19,633
shout out to Ross.
2787
01:32:20,733 --> 01:32:22,300
We had him on, off the
2788
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:23,533
console at some point in time.
2789
01:32:25,166 --> 01:32:26,399
I mean, the truth is
2790
01:32:26,399 --> 01:32:28,366
legal proceedings are slow.
2791
01:32:28,733 --> 01:32:30,899
The speed of litigation is insanely slow
2792
01:32:31,533 --> 01:32:32,533
and they're gonna kill
2793
01:32:32,533 --> 01:32:37,133
Anthem in like January the 12th.
2794
01:32:37,333 --> 01:32:38,500
Unless the law passes
2795
01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:39,933
super fast right now,
2796
01:32:40,199 --> 01:32:41,866
there's no way we can save Anthem,
2797
01:32:42,366 --> 01:32:43,266
officially speaking.
2798
01:32:44,733 --> 01:32:47,899
Yeah, and would it even affect that much?
2799
01:32:47,899 --> 01:32:49,033
Cause I don't think it's retroactive.
2800
01:32:49,566 --> 01:32:50,399
So it's already, like
2801
01:32:50,399 --> 01:32:51,333
it'd only be for games
2802
01:32:51,333 --> 01:32:52,533
that are coming out, I think.
2803
01:32:53,766 --> 01:32:55,300
I always imagined there would be games
2804
01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:56,366
that are still in service
2805
01:32:56,366 --> 01:32:59,100
when the law comes into play.
2806
01:32:59,100 --> 01:32:59,933
So if you say Anthem
2807
01:32:59,933 --> 01:33:01,866
were to still be around
2808
01:33:01,866 --> 01:33:04,100
by the time StopKillingGames becomes law,
2809
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,433
then I would imagine Anthem would be
2810
01:33:06,433 --> 01:33:08,266
subject to said laws.
2811
01:33:10,533 --> 01:33:11,500
I don't know.
2812
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:11,933
I don't know.
2813
01:33:11,933 --> 01:33:13,633
I'm not an expert on the law.
2814
01:33:15,300 --> 01:33:16,300
It would be nice though.
2815
01:33:16,300 --> 01:33:16,833
It's a good sentiment.
2816
01:33:17,333 --> 01:33:19,066
I'm just thinking about, sorry,
2817
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:21,266
I kind of want to try Anthem now.
2818
01:33:21,266 --> 01:33:21,933
Well, you got...
2819
01:33:22,466 --> 01:33:23,366
That it's gonna be rare.
2820
01:33:23,399 --> 01:33:26,133
Well, you got nine or eight days.
2821
01:33:26,866 --> 01:33:27,766
I don't own it.
2822
01:33:27,966 --> 01:33:28,366
How do you buy it?
2823
01:33:28,366 --> 01:33:29,800
Oh shoot, you can't.
2824
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,199
Oh, you can't buy it.
2825
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:31,800
That's right.
2826
01:33:33,333 --> 01:33:33,933
Oh, I don't know.
2827
01:33:33,933 --> 01:33:34,533
Can you pirate it?
2828
01:33:36,733 --> 01:33:37,066
I don't know.
2829
01:33:37,633 --> 01:33:38,866
I mean, that would probably be the bit.
2830
01:33:38,866 --> 01:33:40,033
I'm not gonna mention that here.
2831
01:33:40,866 --> 01:33:42,866
Produce a playable game
2832
01:33:42,866 --> 01:33:44,033
after they shut down the servers.
2833
01:33:44,433 --> 01:33:47,033
Well, I mean, it really depends on
2834
01:33:47,133 --> 01:33:48,166
if people can make it
2835
01:33:48,166 --> 01:33:49,833
private server for Anthem or not.
2836
01:33:50,666 --> 01:33:50,866
Yeah.
2837
01:33:51,633 --> 01:33:53,133
You can reverse the engineer probably,
2838
01:33:53,133 --> 01:33:53,966
but do people want to tell?
2839
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,100
Well, I mean, someone should.
2840
01:33:58,399 --> 01:33:59,100
Well, is Anthem?
2841
01:33:59,633 --> 01:34:01,233
Anthem's not only online, right?
2842
01:34:01,533 --> 01:34:03,100
Like in the sense of, it's a single
2843
01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:03,866
player game, isn't it?
2844
01:34:03,866 --> 01:34:07,066
It's an always online multiplayer, like,
2845
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,100
looter shooter.
2846
01:34:08,133 --> 01:34:08,966
It's an always online multiplayer.
2847
01:34:09,033 --> 01:34:10,133
With like Iron Man suits.
2848
01:34:11,233 --> 01:34:12,533
I played the beta for it.
2849
01:34:12,533 --> 01:34:13,833
It was actually pretty fun.
2850
01:34:14,566 --> 01:34:15,466
The flying especially.
2851
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:19,899
Yeah, I think, honestly,
2852
01:34:19,899 --> 01:34:20,633
this is one of those takes
2853
01:34:20,633 --> 01:34:21,266
where if they would
2854
01:34:21,266 --> 01:34:22,500
have done a No Man's Sky
2855
01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:23,600
and gone back and like
2856
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:24,533
got a lot of feedback,
2857
01:34:24,533 --> 01:34:25,466
I'm like, hey, we're gonna fix it.
2858
01:34:25,466 --> 01:34:26,033
It's gonna give us two
2859
01:34:26,033 --> 01:34:27,066
years, we're gonna fix it.
2860
01:34:27,466 --> 01:34:28,266
I think they would have
2861
01:34:28,266 --> 01:34:30,199
had something, but nah.
2862
01:34:30,233 --> 01:34:32,100
Yeah, they tried one
2863
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:34,133
update to like one Hail Mary
2864
01:34:34,133 --> 01:34:35,100
after they fixed the game,
2865
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,533
and then they just kind of abandoned it.
2866
01:34:38,433 --> 01:34:39,233
It was a really bad
2867
01:34:39,233 --> 01:34:40,333
Hail Mary because it was,
2868
01:34:41,633 --> 01:34:42,333
like they thought they
2869
01:34:42,333 --> 01:34:43,433
could fix it all in like what,
2870
01:34:43,666 --> 01:34:44,899
couple months or something like that.
2871
01:34:44,933 --> 01:34:45,399
I don't know.
2872
01:34:46,433 --> 01:34:47,266
Wow, look at that face.
2873
01:34:47,266 --> 01:34:48,366
I love this. It takes time.
2874
01:34:49,333 --> 01:34:50,466
(laughing) It's perfect.
2875
01:34:52,266 --> 01:34:55,100
This has like essence of
2876
01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:56,266
like Mass Effect Andromeda.
2877
01:34:57,633 --> 01:34:59,033
Like my face is tired face.
2878
01:34:59,600 --> 01:34:59,800
Really?
2879
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,566
I don't know, I feel like I've seen a
2880
01:35:02,566 --> 01:35:04,300
face like that, but.
2881
01:35:04,333 --> 01:35:05,899
Well, I mean, it's just
2882
01:35:05,899 --> 01:35:07,466
uncanny to me a little bit.
2883
01:35:07,733 --> 01:35:08,733
Like there's something strange.
2884
01:35:09,333 --> 01:35:10,033
Like I think it's
2885
01:35:10,033 --> 01:35:11,966
like the quality of the,
2886
01:35:12,166 --> 01:35:13,566
like the pores of the skin
2887
01:35:13,566 --> 01:35:14,733
look just weirdly detailed.
2888
01:35:15,066 --> 01:35:15,800
A little too realistic.
2889
01:35:16,966 --> 01:35:18,699
I'm thinking this is our next thump.
2890
01:35:18,766 --> 01:35:19,966
He's gonna be on our next thumbnail,
2891
01:35:20,366 --> 01:35:21,466
whoever that character is.
2892
01:35:22,266 --> 01:35:22,466
Absolutely.
2893
01:35:23,966 --> 01:35:24,800
That was a good image.
2894
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:25,266
You're a gamer.
2895
01:35:25,633 --> 01:35:27,133
Good, props on you for getting that.
2896
01:35:28,533 --> 01:35:29,766
But dang, man.
2897
01:35:33,766 --> 01:35:35,333
I think that it's,
2898
01:35:36,066 --> 01:35:37,566
like stop killing games.
2899
01:35:37,566 --> 01:35:38,666
I'm totally for it.
2900
01:35:39,033 --> 01:35:41,366
Like it's the law that if
2901
01:35:41,366 --> 01:35:43,866
you produce a game like this
2902
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,166
going forward that is only online,
2903
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,300
you have to have a plan
2904
01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:51,566
in place for the community
2905
01:35:51,566 --> 01:35:53,433
to take up the stewardship
2906
01:35:53,433 --> 01:35:55,533
of the online servers, right?
2907
01:35:55,833 --> 01:35:56,033
Right.
2908
01:35:57,100 --> 01:36:00,433
In some way, that just makes sense.
2909
01:36:01,866 --> 01:36:03,199
Just if you're shipping it on Steam,
2910
01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:06,433
just ship a multiplayer client with it.
2911
01:36:06,433 --> 01:36:07,199
Like a lot of games do
2912
01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:08,800
it, or you can host it.
2913
01:36:09,233 --> 01:36:09,766
You can host the server.
2914
01:36:09,766 --> 01:36:11,366
But that's too much effort and resources
2915
01:36:12,333 --> 01:36:15,000
taken away from Mass Effect 5 from EA.
2916
01:36:16,066 --> 01:36:16,266
Yeah.
2917
01:36:16,533 --> 01:36:18,633
Last week I published an article
2918
01:36:18,766 --> 01:36:20,833
about the history of
2919
01:36:20,833 --> 01:36:21,833
Unreal Tournament, right?
2920
01:36:22,533 --> 01:36:25,800
And one of the things about UT is that
2921
01:36:26,866 --> 01:36:28,399
because they had the master
2922
01:36:28,399 --> 01:36:29,833
server list and everything,
2923
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:31,733
the way it was built,
2924
01:36:31,966 --> 01:36:34,533
it was easy to set up
2925
01:36:34,533 --> 01:36:36,100
your own multiplayer server.
2926
01:36:36,566 --> 01:36:38,166
It was dedicated, it was private.
2927
01:36:38,666 --> 01:36:39,600
You could do it yourself.
2928
01:36:40,266 --> 01:36:44,733
And then when Epic decided
2929
01:36:44,733 --> 01:36:45,733
they weren't gonna host the
2930
01:36:45,733 --> 01:36:47,133
master server list anymore,
2931
01:36:47,766 --> 01:36:48,600
the community was able
2932
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:49,833
to take up the thing,
2933
01:36:50,066 --> 01:36:51,699
change one line in the
2934
01:36:51,699 --> 01:36:53,699
config file, and then boom,
2935
01:36:53,733 --> 01:36:55,366
now the community runs
2936
01:36:55,366 --> 01:36:56,266
a master server list.
2937
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:57,533
It's simple.
2938
01:36:58,133 --> 01:36:59,566
And the only reason
2939
01:36:59,566 --> 01:37:00,766
that they're not doing it
2940
01:37:00,766 --> 01:37:02,066
in these games is
2941
01:37:02,066 --> 01:37:04,033
because the profit incentive
2942
01:37:04,466 --> 01:37:07,366
to keep it locked down is
2943
01:37:07,366 --> 01:37:09,433
greater than the technical debt
2944
01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:11,633
of maintaining a config file.
2945
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:15,166
It's proprietary software.
2946
01:37:15,466 --> 01:37:16,633
They think they have something special,
2947
01:37:16,633 --> 01:37:18,733
which is the stupidest thing a lot.
2948
01:37:18,933 --> 01:37:19,866
It's just the stupidest thing.
2949
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:21,466
They're not special,
2950
01:37:21,666 --> 01:37:22,633
but yeah, it is different.
2951
01:37:22,833 --> 01:37:25,166
I will say hosting an Unreal game
2952
01:37:26,033 --> 01:37:27,500
at a master list is very different
2953
01:37:27,500 --> 01:37:29,633
than a very complicated
2954
01:37:29,633 --> 01:37:30,633
online multiplayer game
2955
01:37:30,633 --> 01:37:33,466
that has a lot of save states in it.
2956
01:37:34,166 --> 01:37:36,533
But they run it.
2957
01:37:36,533 --> 01:37:37,333
They run it, they
2958
01:37:37,333 --> 01:37:38,266
package it, they have it,
2959
01:37:38,333 --> 01:37:39,066
so it runs on multiple
2960
01:37:39,066 --> 01:37:40,333
servers, they could package it.
2961
01:37:41,066 --> 01:37:41,633
And they might have
2962
01:37:41,633 --> 01:37:42,466
to change a little bit,
2963
01:37:42,466 --> 01:37:43,733
but they could package it, I think.
2964
01:37:43,833 --> 01:37:44,566
It would be trivial.
2965
01:37:45,166 --> 01:37:46,266
They have to make it
2966
01:37:46,266 --> 01:37:49,433
deployable across Kubernetes
2967
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,899
or whatever they're using.
2968
01:37:52,466 --> 01:37:54,833
So it's not like they have one server
2969
01:37:54,833 --> 01:37:56,199
that services everyone.
2970
01:37:56,433 --> 01:37:58,666
They have to have dozens of servers
2971
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:01,033
spread out across the entire world.
2972
01:38:01,266 --> 01:38:03,399
So it's not like this is impossible.
2973
01:38:04,133 --> 01:38:05,000
They've architected it.
2974
01:38:05,033 --> 01:38:06,600
That gets more complicated though.
2975
01:38:06,666 --> 01:38:07,133
That technically
2976
01:38:07,133 --> 01:38:08,199
complicates the whole thing.
2977
01:38:10,033 --> 01:38:11,500
If you can make it so
2978
01:38:11,500 --> 01:38:12,633
that it can only support,
2979
01:38:13,466 --> 01:38:15,500
let's say like 40 people,
2980
01:38:15,833 --> 01:38:16,500
and it's still gonna
2981
01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:17,433
eat up a lot of resources,
2982
01:38:18,566 --> 01:38:19,899
but if you have to make it
2983
01:38:19,899 --> 01:38:21,366
so it supports a lot more,
2984
01:38:22,066 --> 01:38:23,066
and then you have to, we're
2985
01:38:23,066 --> 01:38:23,933
talking about distribution,
2986
01:38:24,166 --> 01:38:24,800
we're talking about a lot
2987
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,100
of server configurations
2988
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:28,533
and stuff that can get more complicated.
2989
01:38:28,533 --> 01:38:29,533
They don't have to,
2990
01:38:29,533 --> 01:38:30,666
but I have a feeling that
2991
01:38:32,433 --> 01:38:33,466
I'd like to see that server code
2992
01:38:35,033 --> 01:38:35,866
before I make a final judgment.
2993
01:38:37,233 --> 01:38:37,433
Whatever.
2994
01:38:37,699 --> 01:38:39,966
I don't, I just, EA
2995
01:38:39,966 --> 01:38:41,333
could say whatever they want,
2996
01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:42,466
and I wouldn't believe them.
2997
01:38:42,833 --> 01:38:43,833
So, like.
2998
01:38:44,766 --> 01:38:45,566
No, they can.
2999
01:38:46,333 --> 01:38:49,133
But yeah, once you start to talk about
3000
01:38:49,133 --> 01:38:50,066
distributed systems,
3001
01:38:50,066 --> 01:38:51,199
it gets a lot more complicated
3002
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,333
to run it as an individual.
3003
01:38:54,766 --> 01:38:55,466
They could still do it.
3004
01:38:55,466 --> 01:38:56,333
I really think they could.
3005
01:38:56,333 --> 01:38:58,166
They could probably have one developer
3006
01:38:58,366 --> 01:38:59,333
that's a backend developer
3007
01:38:59,733 --> 01:39:00,466
probably package
3008
01:39:00,466 --> 01:39:01,833
something up and make it work
3009
01:39:02,133 --> 01:39:03,300
out of like a month's worth of work.
3010
01:39:03,333 --> 01:39:04,166
The point I was trying to
3011
01:39:04,166 --> 01:39:05,566
make with that was that,
3012
01:39:05,933 --> 01:39:07,333
not that it like having a distributed
3013
01:39:07,333 --> 01:39:08,533
system makes it easy,
3014
01:39:08,533 --> 01:39:09,866
but it's like, it's
3015
01:39:09,866 --> 01:39:11,800
not like when you connect
3016
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,433
with your Anthem client on your computer
3017
01:39:14,733 --> 01:39:15,633
that you're connecting to this
3018
01:39:15,633 --> 01:39:17,000
distributed network of games.
3019
01:39:17,266 --> 01:39:18,766
You're connecting to one server
3020
01:39:19,399 --> 01:39:21,899
that is running their server code.
3021
01:39:22,433 --> 01:39:24,333
So that's what I'm trying to say is like,
3022
01:39:24,833 --> 01:39:26,666
they have to build this in
3023
01:39:26,666 --> 01:39:28,300
a way that they can deploy
3024
01:39:28,733 --> 01:39:31,033
multiple instances of this server code.
3025
01:39:31,366 --> 01:39:33,766
So it's not like they can't just give out
3026
01:39:33,766 --> 01:39:38,899
that the server application, right?
3027
01:39:38,899 --> 01:39:40,033
Like they can do that,
3028
01:39:40,500 --> 01:39:41,300
but they've architect,
3029
01:39:41,533 --> 01:39:42,233
they've engineered it in
3030
01:39:42,233 --> 01:39:43,666
a way that precludes them
3031
01:39:43,666 --> 01:39:44,633
from doing it for,
3032
01:39:44,633 --> 01:39:46,300
you know, money reasons.
3033
01:39:46,300 --> 01:39:47,266
And that's ignorant.
3034
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,466
I am definitely going to
3035
01:39:51,466 --> 01:39:52,766
err on the side of both.
3036
01:39:53,066 --> 01:39:54,000
I think they definitely
3037
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,033
don't want it, it's proprietary.
3038
01:39:55,300 --> 01:39:56,566
They don't want to have to deal with it.
3039
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:57,733
I also think it's gonna
3040
01:39:57,733 --> 01:40:01,033
be, could be more complicated
3041
01:40:01,733 --> 01:40:02,666
than just easily
3042
01:40:02,666 --> 01:40:06,133
bundling it, but I don't know.
3043
01:40:06,366 --> 01:40:06,866
And I don't think
3044
01:40:06,866 --> 01:40:07,766
anyone's gonna know until
3045
01:40:08,066 --> 01:40:09,533
they're forced to reveal it.
3046
01:40:09,833 --> 01:40:11,066
So I'm all for
3047
01:40:11,066 --> 01:40:12,366
transparency, that's for sure.
3048
01:40:13,066 --> 01:40:13,733
So I wanna know.
3049
01:40:14,399 --> 01:40:14,600
Regulation.
3050
01:40:16,399 --> 01:40:16,633
Yeah.
3051
01:40:17,733 --> 01:40:19,399
I wanna regulate, I
3052
01:40:19,399 --> 01:40:20,266
want it to be transparent.
3053
01:40:20,266 --> 01:40:21,766
I want some transparency with this stuff,
3054
01:40:22,266 --> 01:40:23,800
parts because I'm also interested in it.
3055
01:40:24,033 --> 01:40:25,100
Like it'd be fun to see
3056
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:26,266
how they can do it too.
3057
01:40:27,533 --> 01:40:31,666
Man, it's, honestly,
3058
01:40:32,033 --> 01:40:33,300
man, I'm not even sure.
3059
01:40:33,433 --> 01:40:34,600
EA remembers that it's gonna
3060
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,033
be shut down in like a few days.
3061
01:40:36,466 --> 01:40:37,866
So we're gonna have to
3062
01:40:37,866 --> 01:40:38,899
pay attention next week
3063
01:40:38,899 --> 01:40:40,366
to see if EA makes a statement.
3064
01:40:42,333 --> 01:40:43,000
That'd be funny, they
3065
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:43,766
forget to turn it off.
3066
01:40:43,766 --> 01:40:45,500
They're like, it wasn't, like our servers
3067
01:40:45,666 --> 01:40:46,800
weren't getting hit so hard.
3068
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,333
Like we just, we forgot about it.
3069
01:40:48,733 --> 01:40:50,100
I mean, truth be told, I mean,
3070
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:51,633
I would like the end
3071
01:40:51,633 --> 01:40:52,600
of them to stay alive.
3072
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:53,233
I've played the beta.
3073
01:40:53,566 --> 01:40:57,033
It has, the gameplay loop is pretty fun,
3074
01:40:57,300 --> 01:40:57,966
all things considered.
3075
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,033
I don't think anyone's really
3076
01:41:01,033 --> 01:41:02,500
playing it for the most part.
3077
01:41:02,500 --> 01:41:03,633
If there's anyone playing it now,
3078
01:41:03,633 --> 01:41:04,133
it's because it's shut
3079
01:41:04,133 --> 01:41:04,866
down. Oh yeah, for sure.
3080
01:41:05,466 --> 01:41:08,866
I don't think they should be upheld
3081
01:41:09,033 --> 01:41:10,733
to hold those servers open
3082
01:41:11,066 --> 01:41:12,899
if it's just eating tons of resources.
3083
01:41:14,166 --> 01:41:14,966
AI needs those
3084
01:41:14,966 --> 01:41:16,033
resources, by the way, guys.
3085
01:41:16,433 --> 01:41:19,399
But they need to give us
3086
01:41:19,399 --> 01:41:21,366
the ability to self-host.
3087
01:41:22,133 --> 01:41:23,766
Flat out, they have to do that.
3088
01:41:23,766 --> 01:41:25,533
Like games have to start doing that.
3089
01:41:26,066 --> 01:41:29,566
Yeah, so if there's any
3090
01:41:29,566 --> 01:41:31,066
enterprise in indie developers
3091
01:41:31,566 --> 01:41:33,166
that wanna take inspiration from a game
3092
01:41:33,166 --> 01:41:33,899
that no longer
3093
01:41:33,899 --> 01:41:37,133
exists, Anthem is your game.
3094
01:41:38,033 --> 01:41:39,833
Someone should make Anthem an indie
3095
01:41:40,533 --> 01:41:42,600
and not like a looter shooter with a
3096
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:43,666
grindy RPG elements.
3097
01:41:45,566 --> 01:41:46,733
There's gotta be one already, right?
3098
01:41:46,766 --> 01:41:47,833
Not that I've seen. I don't know.
3099
01:41:49,733 --> 01:41:50,566
Maybe if some indie
3100
01:41:50,566 --> 01:41:52,533
developer like contact system
3101
01:41:52,533 --> 01:41:54,066
lets us know, "Oh, we're
3102
01:41:54,066 --> 01:41:56,566
secretly making an Anthem game,
3103
01:41:58,066 --> 01:41:59,566
but it's not a live service game."
3104
01:41:59,766 --> 01:42:00,800
I'd be down to check it out.
3105
01:42:02,433 --> 01:42:03,000
Well, it's not live
3106
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:04,566
services, it's online multiplayer.
3107
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,166
No, Anthem is a live service game.
3108
01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:10,433
Oh, so you don't play with other people.
3109
01:42:10,433 --> 01:42:11,866
No, you play with other people.
3110
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:14,966
And it's also online only.
3111
01:42:14,966 --> 01:42:15,800
It's online only.
3112
01:42:17,966 --> 01:42:18,833
Well, it's like Destiny.
3113
01:42:21,266 --> 01:42:22,699
Well, okay, then yeah,
3114
01:42:23,333 --> 01:42:24,899
that's the type of live service
3115
01:42:24,899 --> 01:42:27,766
that makes sense though, I guess.
3116
01:42:27,766 --> 01:42:28,733
Well, it is single player.
3117
01:42:29,899 --> 01:42:31,366
It makes sense to a point
3118
01:42:31,366 --> 01:42:33,899
because you are in the main world
3119
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:35,800
or like the lobbies
3120
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,333
around a lot of people.
3121
01:42:37,333 --> 01:42:38,666
You have to have that be a live service.
3122
01:42:39,133 --> 01:42:39,833
When you go and play the
3123
01:42:39,833 --> 01:42:41,533
single player portion of it,
3124
01:42:42,033 --> 01:42:43,033
that doesn't make it,
3125
01:42:43,066 --> 01:42:46,066
it shouldn't have to be online only.
3126
01:42:46,466 --> 01:42:47,133
It's complicated.
3127
01:42:48,133 --> 01:42:50,233
I think there's a case for live service
3128
01:42:50,233 --> 01:42:51,033
games in my opinion.
3129
01:42:51,366 --> 01:42:53,266
I just don't think it's for most of them.
3130
01:42:54,366 --> 01:42:54,866
Makes sense.
3131
01:42:58,600 --> 01:42:59,733
So, yeah.
3132
01:43:00,366 --> 01:43:00,566
Well.
3133
01:43:00,966 --> 01:43:02,133
Might be a hot take for me, but.
3134
01:43:02,166 --> 01:43:05,366
Guys, I think yet another
3135
01:43:05,366 --> 01:43:06,933
depressing week of news,
3136
01:43:07,533 --> 01:43:08,466
tech disasters.
3137
01:43:09,066 --> 01:43:10,566
Wow, what a great 2026.
3138
01:43:10,766 --> 01:43:14,266
2026 is gonna be like this.
3139
01:43:14,266 --> 01:43:15,166
So we got to bring a
3140
01:43:15,166 --> 01:43:16,399
lot of good stuff too.
3141
01:43:17,466 --> 01:43:20,166
Like steam frame, steam machine.
3142
01:43:20,966 --> 01:43:22,199
We'll have a lot of good stuff.
3143
01:43:22,199 --> 01:43:26,333
It's just gonna be enhanced to be better
3144
01:43:26,433 --> 01:43:28,366
because the state of PC
3145
01:43:28,366 --> 01:43:29,366
gaming is gonna be worse.
3146
01:43:29,966 --> 01:43:32,233
So we'll have to kind
3147
01:43:32,233 --> 01:43:33,166
of do some contrast,
3148
01:43:33,366 --> 01:43:34,466
like look at this horror show,
3149
01:43:34,466 --> 01:43:35,666
but at least you have the steam machine
3150
01:43:35,666 --> 01:43:36,500
that you can rely on.
3151
01:43:37,133 --> 01:43:39,633
Well, I mean, yeah, that's
3152
01:43:39,633 --> 01:43:40,433
what you can look forward
3153
01:43:40,566 --> 01:43:41,433
to in 2026.
3154
01:43:41,666 --> 01:43:42,966
We're gonna have the tech disasters
3155
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:44,833
and we're gonna have the good news.
3156
01:43:45,533 --> 01:43:47,733
So if you like what you're hearing here,
3157
01:43:47,733 --> 01:43:49,566
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3158
01:43:49,566 --> 01:43:51,266
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3159
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:52,800
You can become a patron
3160
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,166
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3161
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,533
where we talked about stuff that was way
3162
01:43:56,533 --> 01:43:57,466
too hot for YouTube,
3163
01:43:58,266 --> 01:43:59,933
like way too hot for YouTube.
3164
01:44:00,466 --> 01:44:02,266
So Brock.
3165
01:44:03,266 --> 01:44:03,733
That sounds horrible.
3166
01:44:03,933 --> 01:44:06,933
Brock hot is a new, that's the new slur.
3167
01:44:07,766 --> 01:44:08,433
Slur, no.
3168
01:44:09,433 --> 01:44:09,833
Slur.
3169
01:44:10,833 --> 01:44:13,066
That's the new slop,
3170
01:44:13,066 --> 01:44:13,899
I was gonna say slop.
3171
01:44:15,133 --> 01:44:15,566
Oh, okay.
3172
01:44:15,566 --> 01:44:16,333
You're not gonna call it
3173
01:44:16,333 --> 01:44:17,500
Grock of Clinker or something.
3174
01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:19,266
Well, yeah, that's the easy one.
3175
01:44:20,500 --> 01:44:22,233
Anyway, thank you all for watching.
3176
01:44:22,466 --> 01:44:23,166
Thank you, James.
3177
01:44:23,166 --> 01:44:23,666
Thank you, High Tech,
3178
01:44:23,666 --> 01:44:24,666
for being here, my friends.
3179
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:25,966
I have so much fun doing
3180
01:44:25,966 --> 01:44:26,766
this show with you guys.
3181
01:44:26,766 --> 01:44:27,233
Thank you.
3182
01:44:27,233 --> 01:44:28,533
Oh yeah, it's been a great time.
3183
01:44:29,300 --> 01:44:29,933
Yeah, and.
3184
01:44:30,399 --> 01:44:31,766
Oh yeah, another good year.
3185
01:44:32,533 --> 01:44:33,466
2025, that was the first
3186
01:44:33,466 --> 01:44:35,466
full year of us doing a show
3187
01:44:36,033 --> 01:44:38,266
and we're gonna do even more this year.
3188
01:44:39,366 --> 01:44:40,533
Yeah, we should do a
3189
01:44:40,533 --> 01:44:42,133
special Steam Machine episode
3190
01:44:42,233 --> 01:44:43,100
once that releases.
3191
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:44,133
Absolutely.
3192
01:44:44,766 --> 01:44:45,699
Valve contact us.
3193
01:44:47,866 --> 01:44:48,933
Yes, Valve, please.
3194
01:44:49,833 --> 01:44:51,366
All right, we'll see you guys next week.
3195
01:44:51,833 --> 01:44:52,600
All right, take care.
3196
01:44:54,033 --> 01:44:54,833
Yes, later guys.
3197
01:44:55,366 --> 01:44:55,833
Peace out.