1 00:00:00,066 --> 00:00:02,866 Satya Nadella from Microsoft wants you to 2 00:00:02,866 --> 00:00:06,333 stop calling it AI Slop because it hurts 3 00:00:06,333 --> 00:00:09,066 his little CEO Fifi's. 4 00:00:09,066 --> 00:00:11,533 Hmm. I agree. We should call it something 5 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:13,866 else. Like AI dog sh**. 6 00:00:16,066 --> 00:00:18,133 I mean, did we stop calling 7 00:00:18,133 --> 00:00:22,300 it AI Slop as per Mr. Nadella? 8 00:00:22,733 --> 00:00:25,033 Well, he wants us to call it cognitive 9 00:00:25,033 --> 00:00:28,233 amplifier tools because he had a rib 10 00:00:28,233 --> 00:00:29,333 removed last week so 11 00:00:29,333 --> 00:00:32,399 we could f**k himself even harder. Well, 12 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:35,033 I mean, this is not the bonus episode. 13 00:00:36,066 --> 00:00:38,433 That is good. We 14 00:00:38,433 --> 00:00:40,166 needed a cold open, guys. 15 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,766 Good morning, everybody. Welcome to Off 16 00:00:47,766 --> 00:00:51,133 the Console. This is the hottest podcast 17 00:00:51,766 --> 00:00:54,666 that's all about 2026 gaming. It's about 18 00:00:54,666 --> 00:00:57,733 2026 text news, 2026 anything. 19 00:00:59,366 --> 00:01:01,933 We're covering the biggest 2026 news, 20 00:01:02,533 --> 00:01:03,733 including, let's see, what 21 00:01:03,733 --> 00:01:05,466 do we got? We have some CES 22 00:01:05,666 --> 00:01:08,333 updates, which look, you know, CES is 23 00:01:08,333 --> 00:01:10,533 happening like this weekend, right? 24 00:01:11,433 --> 00:01:13,233 This week. It happens 25 00:01:13,233 --> 00:01:14,433 after the episode comes out. 26 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:18,500 Yeah. And we have also got some Steam 27 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:21,266 charts, some GOG news 28 00:01:21,266 --> 00:01:23,633 and a whole lot more. 29 00:01:25,033 --> 00:01:27,133 Dudes, I'm excited about this week. This 30 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:28,333 is going to be a good one. 31 00:01:28,333 --> 00:01:29,533 This is the first episode 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,366 of 2026, if you couldn't tell by the 33 00:01:32,366 --> 00:01:36,566 intro. Yeah. We like to start off this 34 00:01:36,566 --> 00:01:39,000 show with what we've 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,833 been doing over the week. And I don't 36 00:01:41,833 --> 00:01:42,766 know, James, let's start 37 00:01:42,766 --> 00:01:43,166 with you. What have you 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,466 been doing this week? I checked out of 39 00:01:47,466 --> 00:01:50,266 life, essentially, and not 40 00:01:50,266 --> 00:01:52,766 the... Yeah, I should have 41 00:01:52,766 --> 00:01:53,866 rephrased that a little differently, but 42 00:01:53,866 --> 00:01:55,566 no, I checked out and 43 00:01:55,566 --> 00:01:59,599 played Outer Worlds 2. I've put 44 00:02:00,133 --> 00:02:02,599 40 something hours into it in the last 45 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:05,533 week, less than a week. And so I put 46 00:02:05,533 --> 00:02:06,200 like, that's all I've 47 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,966 been doing. I've been ignoring Discord. 48 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:09,733 I've been ignoring everything 49 00:02:09,733 --> 00:02:11,566 else and just vibing through 50 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:13,933 that game. I love open world games that 51 00:02:13,933 --> 00:02:18,133 are like Fallout and I 52 00:02:18,133 --> 00:02:19,266 like Elder Scrolls, but it 53 00:02:19,266 --> 00:02:21,666 doesn't quite catch me as much as a good 54 00:02:21,666 --> 00:02:23,466 like sci-fi, especially 55 00:02:23,466 --> 00:02:24,766 like Outer Worlds, which is 56 00:02:25,266 --> 00:02:27,666 space sci-fi. And they're the same guys 57 00:02:27,666 --> 00:02:29,466 that made the Fallout New 58 00:02:29,466 --> 00:02:31,966 Vegas game. So just for some 59 00:02:31,966 --> 00:02:34,466 context there. And they were so bitter 60 00:02:34,466 --> 00:02:35,166 not being able to make 61 00:02:35,166 --> 00:02:36,666 another Fallout New Vegas game, 62 00:02:36,666 --> 00:02:38,500 I believe, that they essentially made 63 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:40,233 Outer Worlds is what they 64 00:02:40,233 --> 00:02:41,033 wanted to do. So you can 65 00:02:41,133 --> 00:02:42,500 definitely tell there's some inspiration 66 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:45,266 in Outer Worlds from Fallout 67 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:46,666 New Vegas. Even some of the 68 00:02:46,699 --> 00:02:51,433 creatures like Bloatflies are in I think 69 00:02:51,433 --> 00:02:53,033 New Vegas. I think there 70 00:02:53,033 --> 00:02:54,466 might also be in Fallout 3, but 71 00:02:55,099 --> 00:02:56,466 is one of the creatures that you attack 72 00:02:56,466 --> 00:02:58,300 and they have something similar in 73 00:02:59,833 --> 00:03:02,900 Outer Worlds. So a lot of parallels. I 74 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:04,199 think the game's actually 75 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:05,266 really good. It's really 76 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:09,166 deep story. I wish it would have gotten 77 00:03:09,166 --> 00:03:10,500 more attention this year, 78 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:11,966 but there were so many other 79 00:03:11,966 --> 00:03:13,766 good games that kind of overshadowed it. 80 00:03:13,766 --> 00:03:14,866 And I just don't think it 81 00:03:14,866 --> 00:03:16,133 got like as many good ratings 82 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:18,633 as it should have. Because so far I'm 83 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:20,099 playing it. It's really good. 84 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:22,099 It's not a whole lot different 85 00:03:22,099 --> 00:03:25,366 than the first one, but it is as far as 86 00:03:25,366 --> 00:03:27,300 bugs, as far as like 87 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:29,166 visuals, it is definitely a huge 88 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:31,733 upgrade over the first one. And the story 89 00:03:31,733 --> 00:03:33,599 is rich. I love it. Like 90 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:35,566 those types of stories. 91 00:03:35,566 --> 00:03:36,966 Like it's a rich world. You can go 92 00:03:36,966 --> 00:03:38,566 through, explore, do it 93 00:03:38,566 --> 00:03:40,133 the way you want to do it. 94 00:03:41,699 --> 00:03:43,666 And that's how I like. Yeah. So that's 95 00:03:43,666 --> 00:03:45,066 what I've been doing at a world. 96 00:03:45,233 --> 00:03:48,699 That's awesome. What 97 00:03:48,699 --> 00:03:49,500 have you been up there? 98 00:03:51,166 --> 00:03:53,333 Not so much gaming as I have been trying 99 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:55,599 to hunt to finally upgrade 100 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:56,766 my computer. And I couldn't 101 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,233 have picked a worse time to do it. No. 102 00:04:00,966 --> 00:04:02,233 This is the worst year. 103 00:04:03,033 --> 00:04:04,666 Yeah. I was trying to do it 104 00:04:04,666 --> 00:04:06,333 earlier this year, but graphics card 105 00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:10,566 prices were way higher. 106 00:04:11,933 --> 00:04:14,533 And I mean, they are now. 107 00:04:14,766 --> 00:04:16,766 They were higher than they are now, for 108 00:04:16,766 --> 00:04:20,566 sure. But, you know, are they? They were. 109 00:04:20,966 --> 00:04:22,233 I think everything's bumping up. 110 00:04:22,266 --> 00:04:25,633 Really shit. Oh, availability. You're not 111 00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:26,399 wrong there. Like it was 112 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:27,300 really hard to get a graphics 113 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:28,666 card at the beginning of the year. Yeah. 114 00:04:28,899 --> 00:04:31,300 And. 25 had I been able to 115 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:32,766 get a secure a graphics card of 116 00:04:32,766 --> 00:04:34,733 any kind, I would have upgraded sooner 117 00:04:34,733 --> 00:04:35,566 and it wouldn't have to 118 00:04:35,566 --> 00:04:36,566 pay an arm and a leg for RAM. 119 00:04:37,733 --> 00:04:38,866 Thankfully, it seems like Micro Center 120 00:04:38,866 --> 00:04:41,300 might have some deals. You 121 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:43,266 guys live near Micro Center? No. 122 00:04:44,866 --> 00:04:47,500 Thankfully, I have a brother that does. 123 00:04:47,833 --> 00:04:51,433 So I can just tell him to do it for me 124 00:04:51,433 --> 00:04:53,133 because he's also interested in upgrade 125 00:04:53,133 --> 00:04:54,866 as well in his computer. 126 00:04:55,500 --> 00:05:01,666 Is there a Micro Center in Vegas? 127 00:05:02,333 --> 00:05:04,533 I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure there's one 128 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:06,166 in Vegas. Let's find out. 129 00:05:08,699 --> 00:05:13,199 Yeah, I'm trying to. It's either Denver 130 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:14,699 or Vegas. That's the closest one to me. 131 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:18,233 According to and that's not correct. I 132 00:05:18,233 --> 00:05:18,600 was going to say 133 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,733 according to their website, 134 00:05:19,733 --> 00:05:22,500 the closest one to me is Columbus, Ohio. 135 00:05:23,366 --> 00:05:25,300 But I think there's one in Boston. 136 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:29,600 That's crazy. Yeah. 137 00:05:31,533 --> 00:05:33,133 How far is Boston from 138 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:35,566 you? It's about five hours. 139 00:05:36,933 --> 00:05:38,266 The closest one to me is 140 00:05:38,266 --> 00:05:40,766 like two hours away in near DC. 141 00:05:41,266 --> 00:05:46,000 Oh, that's not far. I could theoretically 142 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,633 make the drive up, but I 143 00:05:47,633 --> 00:05:48,600 also have a brother that lives 144 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,266 in Fairfax. So yeah, my the closest one 145 00:05:52,266 --> 00:05:53,533 to me is in Cambridge, 146 00:05:53,533 --> 00:05:55,399 Massachusetts, which is like 147 00:05:55,399 --> 00:06:00,866 180 miles from my home. Oh, look at that. 148 00:06:00,866 --> 00:06:02,233 You guys both live closer. I 149 00:06:02,233 --> 00:06:08,066 Vegas five hours than Denver is. Oh, I don't even know. I don't make that drive. That's a 150 00:06:08,433 --> 00:06:12,066 rough drive. I'm just saying microsonics 151 00:06:12,066 --> 00:06:14,366 and sponsors. I've worked 152 00:06:14,366 --> 00:06:15,666 with my microcenter before. 153 00:06:15,966 --> 00:06:21,066 I like microcenter. I guess. Well, I 154 00:06:21,066 --> 00:06:22,166 haven't gotten anything from them, 155 00:06:22,166 --> 00:06:23,699 so I don't know if I like them. I like 156 00:06:23,699 --> 00:06:27,199 their stores. I've been 157 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,000 to microcenter like I like 158 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,800 microcenter. I just wish a little closer 159 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,866 to one. Maybe they 160 00:06:32,866 --> 00:06:34,233 should open one in my town. 161 00:06:35,366 --> 00:06:36,233 Yeah, that'd be nice. They need to open one in Southern. 162 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,666 They need to open one in. I'll do a whole 163 00:06:38,666 --> 00:06:41,766 video for microcenter. Yada, yada, yada. 164 00:06:42,733 --> 00:06:45,533 But yeah, they have good deals like to. 165 00:06:45,533 --> 00:06:46,433 That's the nice thing about 166 00:06:46,433 --> 00:06:47,399 microcenter is that sometimes 167 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:49,033 you just walk in and get a really good 168 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:50,233 deal. But yeah, that's 169 00:06:50,233 --> 00:06:51,399 what I've been doing the past 170 00:06:51,399 --> 00:06:54,266 New Year's been having some celebrations 171 00:06:54,266 --> 00:06:55,933 and having a terrible 172 00:06:55,933 --> 00:06:58,100 time finding PC parts for 173 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,766 cheap. Well, Ram, particularly everything 174 00:07:00,766 --> 00:07:02,633 else is OK except for GPUs, but. 175 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,333 But GPUs are starting to go up. I'm 176 00:07:06,333 --> 00:07:07,600 reading some stuff that 177 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,466 we're probably going to start 178 00:07:08,466 --> 00:07:09,933 seeing $5,000 five nights. 179 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:11,566 Guys, which at this point. 180 00:07:12,166 --> 00:07:15,199 Interesting. Go ahead. No, it's OK. At 181 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:16,500 this point, I feel like 182 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:17,699 Nvidia is just going to be like, you know 183 00:07:17,699 --> 00:07:20,100 what? Our generational name 184 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:21,300 is going to be the same price. 185 00:07:21,533 --> 00:07:23,433 Like so the 6000 series is going to be 186 00:07:23,433 --> 00:07:27,633 $6,000. Yeah. So I'm my I'm 187 00:07:27,633 --> 00:07:28,766 looking at like the way the 188 00:07:28,833 --> 00:07:30,466 market's going and I'm like, it's 189 00:07:30,466 --> 00:07:31,666 literally not worth it 190 00:07:31,666 --> 00:07:34,533 anymore. Like to buy a discrete GPU, 191 00:07:34,933 --> 00:07:38,233 like the return on investment is like 192 00:07:38,233 --> 00:07:39,866 negative. You know, it's not 193 00:07:39,866 --> 00:07:42,166 like I don't know. It's like, 194 00:07:42,166 --> 00:07:45,566 why not just get an APU? Well, the 195 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:47,766 problem is that they don't sell APUs for 196 00:07:47,766 --> 00:07:49,133 desktops. Decent ones. 197 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:53,399 Anyways, like like if they made a Strix 198 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,699 Halo CPU could sock it, I'd 199 00:07:55,699 --> 00:07:56,466 probably just get that instead. 200 00:07:56,733 --> 00:08:00,033 They don't make that. I bet you that no, 201 00:08:00,033 --> 00:08:01,333 no, there's no that's no 202 00:08:01,333 --> 00:08:02,699 there's no desktop socketable 203 00:08:02,699 --> 00:08:05,733 Strix Halo APUs. Like the framework 204 00:08:05,733 --> 00:08:07,566 desktop is soldered on to the 205 00:08:07,566 --> 00:08:09,766 motherboard and also like the 206 00:08:09,766 --> 00:08:13,333 Mini's forum stuff, too. To get one of 207 00:08:13,333 --> 00:08:15,899 those. Yeah, I don't want to have you 208 00:08:15,899 --> 00:08:17,133 bought any option now 209 00:08:17,366 --> 00:08:24,666 parts yet. No, I was going to, but I 210 00:08:24,666 --> 00:08:26,300 might have locked onto a deal, but I'm not going to tell you 211 00:08:26,333 --> 00:08:27,666 tell anyone about it because I want to 212 00:08:27,666 --> 00:08:33,733 buy it. You've waited too 213 00:08:33,733 --> 00:08:35,299 long. You're going to have a 214 00:08:35,299 --> 00:08:37,700 fun time this year. God damn it. I need 215 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:39,166 to upgrade. I have an old, like I have a 216 00:08:39,166 --> 00:08:40,399 3090 at least. So it's 217 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:43,966 lasting me, but it's the computers like 218 00:08:43,966 --> 00:08:45,966 four or five years old and 219 00:08:45,966 --> 00:08:49,133 I'll probably wait it out. 220 00:08:49,133 --> 00:08:50,066 I couldn't have picked the worst time to 221 00:08:50,066 --> 00:08:50,733 wait until the companies 222 00:08:50,733 --> 00:08:52,933 decide GPUs are not, you know, 223 00:08:52,966 --> 00:08:54,633 that are they're just going to I think 224 00:08:54,633 --> 00:08:55,233 they're going to kill 225 00:08:55,233 --> 00:08:56,399 this. I couldn't have picked a 226 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:59,433 worst time, but hey, CES is around the 227 00:08:59,433 --> 00:09:02,299 corner. You know what that means? What's 228 00:09:02,299 --> 00:09:03,133 what have I been doing? 229 00:09:03,766 --> 00:09:05,566 Oh shit, Gardner, what have you been 230 00:09:05,566 --> 00:09:09,299 doing? I have been actually kind of in a 231 00:09:09,299 --> 00:09:10,333 similar boat to you, 232 00:09:10,566 --> 00:09:12,799 high tech a little bit, at least with RAM 233 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:15,733 prices because Mini's 234 00:09:15,733 --> 00:09:17,500 forum sent me this. This is the 235 00:09:17,533 --> 00:09:20,299 the their motherboard. What is it called? 236 00:09:20,666 --> 00:09:26,100 The BBD895ISE and it 237 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:30,233 has a Ryzen 9 HX in it. 238 00:09:30,466 --> 00:09:31,366 Oh, is that Strix Halo? 239 00:09:31,933 --> 00:09:33,933 Oh yes, son. Oh my god. 240 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:42,033 And it's got the Radeon 890M GPU in it. 241 00:09:42,899 --> 00:09:44,033 See, they didn't even make 242 00:09:44,033 --> 00:09:47,100 that a desktop socketable CPU. 243 00:09:48,166 --> 00:09:50,733 AMD, but AMD won't for some reason. I 244 00:09:50,733 --> 00:09:52,433 don't know why. Well, they don't want to 245 00:09:52,433 --> 00:09:53,566 cannibalize their own 246 00:09:53,833 --> 00:09:56,433 like exorbitantly priced GPU discrete. 247 00:09:57,333 --> 00:10:00,266 This is why the GPU market's so messed up 248 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:01,533 because AMD won't do 249 00:10:01,533 --> 00:10:04,700 anything. Not only. Dude, in a healthy 250 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:08,966 economy, AMD would be like, 251 00:10:08,966 --> 00:10:10,133 oh, they're screwing over their 252 00:10:10,166 --> 00:10:12,766 customers. We'll cut our prices instead 253 00:10:12,766 --> 00:10:14,266 of increasing them. 254 00:10:14,666 --> 00:10:15,799 Well, they're cousins. So, 255 00:10:16,866 --> 00:10:18,933 but I mean, so I've been I've been 256 00:10:18,933 --> 00:10:20,733 working on this. I'm going 257 00:10:20,733 --> 00:10:21,833 to review this pretty soon. 258 00:10:22,866 --> 00:10:28,933 I have, whoops, I have some, I'm like 259 00:10:28,933 --> 00:10:30,566 scrounging for RAM from other 260 00:10:30,566 --> 00:10:32,466 devices to actually test this 261 00:10:32,466 --> 00:10:35,666 thing. But what was the other thing that 262 00:10:35,666 --> 00:10:38,466 I've been doing? Oh, dude, okay. So 263 00:10:38,466 --> 00:10:39,899 remember, I moved over 264 00:10:39,933 --> 00:10:43,100 to that minutes form and five. Nass. 265 00:10:43,466 --> 00:10:45,466 Yeah, how has it been? Dude, 266 00:10:45,466 --> 00:10:47,133 okay, so it is awesome. It's a 267 00:10:47,133 --> 00:10:50,033 really great device. But I keep fucking 268 00:10:50,033 --> 00:10:51,333 up the hardware, the 269 00:10:51,333 --> 00:10:53,533 software on it. And I thought that 270 00:10:53,533 --> 00:10:58,000 I had lost all of my stuff again. I 271 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,266 didn't. But like some so someone came 272 00:11:00,266 --> 00:11:01,133 into my discord, and 273 00:11:01,133 --> 00:11:02,600 I'm not blaming them. This is entirely on 274 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,733 me. But someone came into 275 00:11:03,733 --> 00:11:04,633 my discord and they're like, 276 00:11:04,666 --> 00:11:07,366 Gardner, I saw you had an N5. How have 277 00:11:07,366 --> 00:11:08,433 you dealt with this problem 278 00:11:08,433 --> 00:11:12,333 in Proxmox? And I was like, oh, 279 00:11:12,333 --> 00:11:14,366 I haven't because I I'm running Proxmox 280 00:11:14,366 --> 00:11:15,833 eight. And I was like, well, 281 00:11:15,833 --> 00:11:17,333 I'll just update to nine. It 282 00:11:17,333 --> 00:11:18,833 shouldn't be that big of an issue, right? 283 00:11:19,466 --> 00:11:21,133 Oh, brother, was that a 284 00:11:21,133 --> 00:11:24,133 huge issue? Because I had like 285 00:11:24,566 --> 00:11:31,033 made my GPU like the APU GPU portion of 286 00:11:31,033 --> 00:11:33,933 the thing as like a shared resource, 287 00:11:34,299 --> 00:11:35,366 which meant that the 288 00:11:35,366 --> 00:11:38,033 kernel never like attached to it or 289 00:11:38,033 --> 00:11:41,399 loaded the driver. So like, 290 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:44,533 oh, there was no, you know, like, 291 00:11:45,933 --> 00:11:48,366 video output. And so when during the 292 00:11:48,366 --> 00:11:50,833 update upgrade process, everything looked 293 00:11:50,833 --> 00:11:51,466 like it had finished 294 00:11:51,633 --> 00:11:55,133 successfully. And then I like rebooted 295 00:11:55,133 --> 00:11:59,633 the machine. And it failed to boot. And 296 00:11:59,633 --> 00:12:02,133 there was I there, I 297 00:12:02,133 --> 00:12:04,466 didn't have like serial output, and I 298 00:12:04,466 --> 00:12:06,333 didn't have video output. So 299 00:12:06,333 --> 00:12:08,733 it was just like a, you know, 300 00:12:08,733 --> 00:12:10,333 completely headless box with no way to 301 00:12:10,333 --> 00:12:12,333 interface with it. And the 302 00:12:12,333 --> 00:12:14,633 web GUI didn't load either. So 303 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,600 yeah, no SSH, no nothing. So I had to 304 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,033 just reinstall Proxmox. And I had to 305 00:12:21,033 --> 00:12:23,500 like, reimport all of my VMs, 306 00:12:24,966 --> 00:12:26,266 which was interesting, because I've never 307 00:12:26,266 --> 00:12:27,666 had to do that before. So 308 00:12:27,666 --> 00:12:30,066 anyway, that took up all day 309 00:12:30,066 --> 00:12:32,466 Thursday and most of the morning Friday. 310 00:12:34,166 --> 00:12:36,233 I'm very concerned that I 311 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:37,033 lost a bunch of data. But 312 00:12:37,033 --> 00:12:39,866 well, I'm glad your your stuff's back up 313 00:12:39,866 --> 00:12:42,266 and that you managed to recover it. Yeah. 314 00:12:42,933 --> 00:12:45,633 It might not be a bad use case to get a 315 00:12:45,633 --> 00:12:48,500 second NAS for that. Yeah, 316 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:49,666 you get your you get your old 317 00:12:49,666 --> 00:12:52,266 server, right? That's been 318 00:12:52,266 --> 00:12:55,366 decommissioned. Oh, might be I could 319 00:12:55,366 --> 00:12:57,233 hypothetically, like bring it 320 00:12:57,233 --> 00:12:58,899 back up, but I'd need to buy five more 321 00:12:58,899 --> 00:13:01,066 drives. And I don't have 322 00:13:01,066 --> 00:13:02,166 the budget for that right now. 323 00:13:02,299 --> 00:13:05,533 Yeah, makes sense. Minis forums, mini 324 00:13:05,533 --> 00:13:07,100 forums, send us some, send 325 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:08,500 us some now we can do that 326 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:10,000 offsite backup plan that we've always 327 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,899 had. Yeah, minis forum. I'm 328 00:13:12,899 --> 00:13:14,533 gonna ask them to do that. I 329 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:16,633 did ask them once and they were receptive 330 00:13:16,633 --> 00:13:18,533 to the idea. But they said 331 00:13:18,533 --> 00:13:19,766 that they didn't have the 332 00:13:19,766 --> 00:13:21,666 problem was that they didn't have any of 333 00:13:21,666 --> 00:13:23,633 the N five in their 334 00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:25,333 warehouse. They were all at Amazon's 335 00:13:25,333 --> 00:13:27,399 warehouse or something. And so I had to 336 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:28,866 buy the one and then they 337 00:13:28,866 --> 00:13:30,466 reimbursed me for it. So 338 00:13:31,433 --> 00:13:32,733 I mean, if the offer is still on the 339 00:13:32,733 --> 00:13:33,733 table, we could do that. 340 00:13:34,233 --> 00:13:35,866 Yeah, I'd be sick. That would be so sick. 341 00:13:36,633 --> 00:13:38,166 I do it. I do it. Anything I 342 00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:39,466 get usually that's at least 343 00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:41,666 interesting. I will. Yeah. Hell yeah. 344 00:13:41,899 --> 00:13:43,133 It's definitely in that realm. And I'll 345 00:13:43,133 --> 00:13:44,033 buy some drives too. 346 00:13:44,966 --> 00:13:47,366 Yeah. It's I mean, dude, having offsite 347 00:13:47,366 --> 00:13:48,566 backups would be awesome. 348 00:13:50,633 --> 00:13:52,666 Excuse me. But yeah, anyway, 349 00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:55,100 so that's what I've been doing. And this 350 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:57,299 week, we've got some 351 00:13:57,299 --> 00:13:59,433 interesting stuff going on. 352 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:02,466 Let's get into the show proper. 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And join the 395 00:15:30,833 --> 00:15:31,866 Discord server, too. 396 00:15:32,233 --> 00:15:33,700 Oh, yes, join the Discord. We have a 397 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:34,966 Discord server. There'll 398 00:15:34,966 --> 00:15:36,399 be links to all of this down 399 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:39,933 below. All right. Now, let's get on to 400 00:15:39,933 --> 00:15:42,366 the actual topics this week. And the 401 00:15:42,366 --> 00:15:44,933 first one is CES 2026. 402 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:49,166 It's literally starting today when you're 403 00:15:49,166 --> 00:15:51,866 watching this. Hi, tech, 404 00:15:51,866 --> 00:15:53,766 tell us what we can expect from 405 00:15:53,766 --> 00:15:57,266 CES. Well, we can expect a lot of AI 406 00:15:57,266 --> 00:15:59,733 stuff, a lot of robots, but more 407 00:15:59,733 --> 00:16:01,533 importantly, a lot of computer 408 00:16:01,533 --> 00:16:03,466 parts and computers and like stuff like 409 00:16:03,466 --> 00:16:06,700 that. So I mean, like you 410 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:08,033 said, by the time this episode 411 00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:11,566 airs, CES will have already started media 412 00:16:11,566 --> 00:16:13,533 only. So I guess we won't 413 00:16:13,533 --> 00:16:14,233 know until that day. We won't 414 00:16:14,733 --> 00:16:16,966 know what's happening until the day of. 415 00:16:16,966 --> 00:16:17,566 So we won't be able to talk 416 00:16:17,566 --> 00:16:19,066 about it till next episode. 417 00:16:20,733 --> 00:16:22,533 But if you look at the if you go to the 418 00:16:22,533 --> 00:16:24,066 other link card, that's in that topic, 419 00:16:24,266 --> 00:16:25,966 you can actually search for who's going 420 00:16:25,966 --> 00:16:28,233 to be there. Press exhibit directory. 421 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,233 Exhibit directory on the on the left. 422 00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:36,466 It's the big button. Yeah. And I'm 423 00:16:36,466 --> 00:16:36,966 assuming you don't want 424 00:16:36,966 --> 00:16:38,333 to search through all of this so you can 425 00:16:38,333 --> 00:16:39,866 filter by categories or by 426 00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:42,066 name. So I've confirmed at the 427 00:16:42,066 --> 00:16:44,033 very least that Lenovo is going to be 428 00:16:44,033 --> 00:16:47,966 there. Well, Lenovo is like 429 00:16:47,966 --> 00:16:50,100 it is pretty much confirmed 430 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:51,866 at this point. The leak is that they're 431 00:16:51,866 --> 00:16:53,066 going to be having the 432 00:16:53,066 --> 00:16:55,266 Legion go to SteamOS version. 433 00:16:55,566 --> 00:16:56,933 Yeah, now it's going to be there. We 434 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:58,333 should be seeing this. Yeah, 435 00:16:58,333 --> 00:16:59,433 we should be seeing a SteamOS 436 00:16:59,433 --> 00:17:01,833 version, which is like kind of funny that 437 00:17:01,833 --> 00:17:02,833 that mean they just slap 438 00:17:02,833 --> 00:17:03,866 SteamOS onto it. I don't know 439 00:17:03,866 --> 00:17:04,966 if it needs to be showcased, but 440 00:17:04,966 --> 00:17:06,566 apparently that video is going to be 441 00:17:06,566 --> 00:17:10,366 there, too. AMD is not going 442 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,733 to be there, though, surprisingly. Or or 443 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:14,733 maybe they're going by 444 00:17:14,733 --> 00:17:17,266 their full name, Advanced Micro. 445 00:17:18,166 --> 00:17:22,866 Oh, there will be there. Oh, never mind. 446 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:24,466 I don't know why they didn't 447 00:17:24,466 --> 00:17:25,966 go by just a while. I guess 448 00:17:25,966 --> 00:17:27,733 they are technically advanced micro 449 00:17:27,733 --> 00:17:29,633 devices. They always I 450 00:17:29,633 --> 00:17:30,666 think they always go by advanced 451 00:17:30,666 --> 00:17:32,866 micro devices for these types of things. 452 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,299 Valve, I really doubt it. 453 00:17:36,299 --> 00:17:37,733 It's not it's not there. 454 00:17:38,366 --> 00:17:40,933 Oh, well, who knows? Valve may be both. 455 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,566 Valve may be going with 456 00:17:42,566 --> 00:17:44,233 Lenovo like they did last year, 457 00:17:44,233 --> 00:17:48,566 if you recall. True, because they didn't 458 00:17:48,566 --> 00:17:49,733 go by themselves, but I 459 00:17:49,733 --> 00:17:50,533 was hoping that they would 460 00:17:50,533 --> 00:17:52,099 showcase maybe the Steam Machine or 461 00:17:52,099 --> 00:17:54,400 something. You really about would 462 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,099 showcase anything at an expo. 463 00:17:56,099 --> 00:17:57,166 They could have shown off. They could 464 00:17:57,166 --> 00:17:58,733 have shown off Half Life 3 at the game 465 00:17:58,733 --> 00:18:00,766 awards and they didn't. 466 00:18:00,966 --> 00:18:02,966 No, I know. But hardware is a little 467 00:18:02,966 --> 00:18:03,966 different getting people to 468 00:18:03,966 --> 00:18:04,933 have hands on it, but they did 469 00:18:04,966 --> 00:18:07,433 at their their place. So they really like 470 00:18:07,433 --> 00:18:08,866 that control, man. That's 471 00:18:08,866 --> 00:18:10,166 the only as well as things 472 00:18:10,166 --> 00:18:11,866 where I wish Valve would play a little 473 00:18:11,866 --> 00:18:13,033 bit more with other people 474 00:18:13,033 --> 00:18:15,933 better. But I don't know if 475 00:18:15,933 --> 00:18:17,299 it's a control thing or if it's just 476 00:18:17,299 --> 00:18:19,966 these events maybe ask too much. Who 477 00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:21,033 knows? I mean, I think 478 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:23,633 events like this require a little too 479 00:18:23,633 --> 00:18:26,366 much planning and Valve is more seated 480 00:18:26,366 --> 00:18:28,933 pants. That is true. 481 00:18:29,433 --> 00:18:32,233 I mean, I'll make the booth for them. 482 00:18:32,966 --> 00:18:35,166 I'll I had two weeks that I 483 00:18:35,166 --> 00:18:37,033 did. I worked on my video game 484 00:18:37,033 --> 00:18:38,866 and I played video games. I would have 485 00:18:38,866 --> 00:18:39,866 spent that time making 486 00:18:39,866 --> 00:18:40,833 their booth for them. 487 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:44,466 Valve, I'll do it. Honestly, if I knew 488 00:18:44,466 --> 00:18:46,299 Valve was like I was pretty sure Valve 489 00:18:46,299 --> 00:18:47,000 was going to be there 490 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,933 like maybe, you know, adjacent to Lenovo. 491 00:18:49,166 --> 00:18:50,333 But if Valve was there for 492 00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:51,433 sure, I would have been in CS. 493 00:18:52,266 --> 00:18:54,799 But the closer I got, I was like, I don't 494 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:55,666 want to make this the five 495 00:18:55,666 --> 00:18:56,366 hour drive to Vegas to go to 496 00:18:56,433 --> 00:18:59,433 Vegas to go to CS this year, because I 497 00:18:59,433 --> 00:19:00,333 just didn't nothing 498 00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:02,166 sounded overly interesting. 499 00:19:02,533 --> 00:19:04,266 I thought about going to CS because I got 500 00:19:04,266 --> 00:19:05,500 invited by like Minus 501 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:06,599 Forum and a couple other 502 00:19:07,933 --> 00:19:11,766 little like mini PC manufacturers. And I 503 00:19:11,766 --> 00:19:12,866 don't know, I'm already 504 00:19:12,866 --> 00:19:15,000 going to Fostem in Brussels 505 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,000 at the end of this month. So I didn't I 506 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,333 didn't fly twice in January. 507 00:19:20,633 --> 00:19:21,333 That sounded like it would suck. 508 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:25,933 I'm going to be going for work in a 509 00:19:25,933 --> 00:19:29,366 couple weeks. So it's another reason me. 510 00:19:29,666 --> 00:19:32,400 Brussels is in Berlin. I mean, in in 511 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,566 Belgium. Oh, yeah. Belgium, Germany. 512 00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:40,666 It's all European me did. Yeah. They just 513 00:19:40,666 --> 00:19:42,033 wear slightly different clothes. 514 00:19:42,033 --> 00:19:46,733 I'm also going to scale in in March. So 515 00:19:46,733 --> 00:19:48,299 what's that scale 516 00:19:48,299 --> 00:19:49,666 Southern California Linux Expo. 517 00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:51,866 Oh, that's in Cali. I can't 518 00:19:51,866 --> 00:19:53,166 go to Cali. That's too far. 519 00:19:53,966 --> 00:19:56,566 Pasadena, son. I can 520 00:19:56,566 --> 00:19:57,966 pass a demon besides scale. 521 00:19:59,133 --> 00:20:01,299 Uh, I don't know. Hippies, probably. 522 00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:05,266 That's California is great. I like 523 00:20:05,266 --> 00:20:06,666 California. People give it to much crime. 524 00:20:06,866 --> 00:20:08,666 I'm glad that it's not at the LA 525 00:20:08,666 --> 00:20:10,466 Convention Center like it was or not. It 526 00:20:10,466 --> 00:20:11,533 wasn't at the convention. 527 00:20:11,533 --> 00:20:13,833 It was at another place. And last year 528 00:20:13,833 --> 00:20:15,433 and I or the last time I went 529 00:20:15,433 --> 00:20:17,266 and I was like not impressed. 530 00:20:18,099 --> 00:20:20,466 But LA is also not walkable at all. Like 531 00:20:20,466 --> 00:20:22,166 it you walk on the it's 532 00:20:22,166 --> 00:20:23,633 not drivable either. It's 533 00:20:23,666 --> 00:20:25,866 it's not it's not drivable. That's the 534 00:20:25,866 --> 00:20:27,133 only problem with the only. 535 00:20:28,233 --> 00:20:31,733 Yeah, I went to LA and I was like I was 536 00:20:31,733 --> 00:20:35,033 like so disgusted. Like I 537 00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:37,500 mean, just like I tried walking 538 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:42,166 down the street and it was like a five 539 00:20:42,166 --> 00:20:44,666 lane road and I was walking on the 540 00:20:44,666 --> 00:20:46,099 sidewalk and I felt unsafe. 541 00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:48,799 I was like, how is this even possible? 542 00:20:49,133 --> 00:20:50,833 How many paparazzis were stalking you? 543 00:20:52,233 --> 00:20:54,466 None. I don't have paparazzi, thankfully. 544 00:20:55,433 --> 00:20:59,533 Yeah. So I do. I mean, LA is so 545 00:21:00,966 --> 00:21:02,466 it's so divided in the sense of like 546 00:21:02,466 --> 00:21:03,266 there's areas where you're 547 00:21:03,266 --> 00:21:04,166 like you're pretty safe to 548 00:21:04,166 --> 00:21:06,166 walk other places. I think even it's 549 00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:07,166 overblown. Even this place 550 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:08,266 that aren't safe to walk like 551 00:21:08,266 --> 00:21:09,599 you're probably safe in the in the 552 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:14,200 daytime. But it's so dirty. It's like 553 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,533 what Vegas is cleaner 554 00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:18,933 than than LA is nowadays. It's 555 00:21:18,933 --> 00:21:20,833 unfortunate. But you know, car industry, 556 00:21:21,099 --> 00:21:22,533 man, it's the car industry. 557 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:27,433 Yeah, yeah. I mean, Vegas sounds fun. My 558 00:21:27,433 --> 00:21:28,266 brother went to Vegas 559 00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:29,566 many years ago to watch 560 00:21:30,966 --> 00:21:33,200 Floyd Mayweather versus Manny Pacquiao. 561 00:21:34,333 --> 00:21:35,000 He said the fight 562 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,233 sucked because but he got to 563 00:21:37,366 --> 00:21:40,266 gamble there. So that was OK for him. I 564 00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:41,433 do want to go to Vegas soon. 565 00:21:42,066 --> 00:21:44,900 Oh, have you guys you've been to Vegas, 566 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:46,033 though, right? I've never been before. 567 00:21:46,266 --> 00:21:47,900 Carter, but oh, neither. 568 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:49,033 Yeah, I haven't been either. 569 00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:50,933 Well, I've been told many times that 570 00:21:50,933 --> 00:21:51,866 we'll have a new way to go. 571 00:21:51,866 --> 00:21:53,533 To some point, though, my brother is 572 00:21:53,533 --> 00:21:54,933 insisting on going to Vegas, 573 00:21:54,933 --> 00:21:56,333 but it just hasn't happened. 574 00:21:58,033 --> 00:21:59,200 Maybe we just need to make the plan to go 575 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,033 to the next year. Yes. 576 00:22:00,633 --> 00:22:02,833 Yeah. Too many kids that my 577 00:22:02,833 --> 00:22:03,766 brothers have to deal with. 578 00:22:05,433 --> 00:22:06,666 I can show you the ropes there. I know 579 00:22:06,666 --> 00:22:08,166 Vegas fairly well, at least 580 00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:09,033 where a lot of the convention. 581 00:22:09,033 --> 00:22:10,933 Well, depends on where the conventions 582 00:22:10,933 --> 00:22:11,733 are, but if it's 583 00:22:11,733 --> 00:22:13,366 downtown Vegas, then I know it. 584 00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:14,766 So are there any other companies that we 585 00:22:14,766 --> 00:22:16,733 should know about that are going to CES? 586 00:22:17,333 --> 00:22:17,900 That's what I'm curious 587 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:20,633 about. There's a lot of many forum. 588 00:22:20,966 --> 00:22:23,966 Oh, many forum. See, if I would have 589 00:22:23,966 --> 00:22:25,033 would have been like if I was 590 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,166 good at my doing this whole social 591 00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:29,666 content creation thing, 592 00:22:29,666 --> 00:22:33,700 then I would grow like a 593 00:22:33,766 --> 00:22:35,033 connection with one of these companies 594 00:22:35,033 --> 00:22:36,866 and go, but I'd like to go to if I was 595 00:22:36,866 --> 00:22:37,500 invited, I would have 596 00:22:37,533 --> 00:22:40,833 gone. Maybe it's minis and then space 597 00:22:40,833 --> 00:22:44,033 forums. Yeah, I don't think so. 598 00:22:45,333 --> 00:22:47,533 Huh, so many. I think it's like mini. 599 00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:50,700 HK micro computer or something like that. 600 00:22:52,099 --> 00:22:56,500 I see a lot of like a parent company. 601 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:01,666 Let's see. Does a does Mies form have 602 00:23:01,666 --> 00:23:02,466 like a parent company? 603 00:23:02,733 --> 00:23:04,933 Shenzhen, Shenzhen, HC, HKC. 604 00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:07,500 It's one. I don't 605 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:08,900 know. It's one of those. 606 00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:11,299 Let me look at this box here. 607 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:13,966 There's also product categories, too. We 608 00:23:13,966 --> 00:23:15,200 can look at company. We can 609 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,666 also sort companies by that. 610 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:19,566 Gaming and eSports is a 611 00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:21,333 company that you can do. 612 00:23:23,033 --> 00:23:25,299 Gaming and yeah, go to 613 00:23:25,299 --> 00:23:26,133 filter by categories. 614 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,200 Is it going to be 615 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,166 interesting? Yeah, to a degree. 616 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:35,266 To a degree. You can see. 617 00:23:35,566 --> 00:23:35,900 Depends on what you 618 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:36,833 find interesting, James. 619 00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:39,333 Yeah, I don't know 620 00:23:39,333 --> 00:23:40,166 any of these companies. 621 00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:42,133 You can go to Atari hotels. 622 00:23:43,066 --> 00:23:44,466 Atari hotels. Let's stay 623 00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:45,966 at an Atari hotel, guys. 624 00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:48,266 What does Atari hotels have? 625 00:23:48,833 --> 00:23:49,233 It's a. 626 00:23:49,766 --> 00:23:50,866 If it has a capital. 627 00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:52,700 Does it have a Atari 2600? 628 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,700 It's like the new Chuck E. Cheese, guys. 629 00:23:55,966 --> 00:23:56,966 It's for adults. Chuck 630 00:23:56,966 --> 00:23:57,566 E. Cheese for adults. 631 00:23:58,166 --> 00:23:59,733 Nolan Bushnell founded 632 00:23:59,733 --> 00:24:01,066 Chuck E. Cheese and Atari. 633 00:24:01,466 --> 00:24:02,766 So it's the same thing. 634 00:24:03,533 --> 00:24:03,733 Really? 635 00:24:04,066 --> 00:24:04,566 You didn't know that? 636 00:24:05,166 --> 00:24:05,400 No. 637 00:24:06,866 --> 00:24:08,166 You act like that should 638 00:24:08,166 --> 00:24:09,599 be a common thing, Tom. 639 00:24:10,099 --> 00:24:11,766 Nolan Bushnell, man. 640 00:24:12,066 --> 00:24:13,433 I didn't know the name either. 641 00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:15,633 Oh, wait. No, no. Nolan Bushnell founded 642 00:24:15,633 --> 00:24:16,566 Activision. I'm sorry. 643 00:24:17,233 --> 00:24:17,433 Not. 644 00:24:18,466 --> 00:24:18,799 Wait. 645 00:24:19,966 --> 00:24:20,766 They both start with A. 646 00:24:21,233 --> 00:24:22,766 Bywin is there. Bywin's going to be 647 00:24:22,766 --> 00:24:23,666 there. The guys that make 648 00:24:23,666 --> 00:24:26,233 that sim card looking SSD. 649 00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:28,366 Oh, yeah. 650 00:24:29,933 --> 00:24:31,200 Let's see. It wasn't going to be there. 651 00:24:32,133 --> 00:24:33,466 Jsocks is going to be there. 652 00:24:34,766 --> 00:24:36,099 Oh, both are going to be there. 653 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:37,599 Hmm. 654 00:24:38,366 --> 00:24:38,633 Yeah. 655 00:24:39,866 --> 00:24:41,333 So I'm kind of here. 656 00:24:41,533 --> 00:24:42,433 These are guys that are 657 00:24:42,433 --> 00:24:44,599 going to have like booths, too. 658 00:24:44,866 --> 00:24:46,666 Like what is Discord do? 659 00:24:46,866 --> 00:24:49,133 Because CES is more 660 00:24:49,133 --> 00:24:50,633 hardware than it is software. 661 00:24:50,633 --> 00:24:51,133 I'm kind of. 662 00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:53,133 Obviously, they're going to make like the 663 00:24:53,133 --> 00:24:54,133 Discord thin client. 664 00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:58,933 Yeah, they're not doing that. 665 00:24:59,233 --> 00:25:00,033 That'd be a good thing. 666 00:25:01,266 --> 00:25:02,799 But that would hurt their bottom line. 667 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:04,766 Oh, look. We have 668 00:25:04,766 --> 00:25:06,333 Vtuber companies there, too. 669 00:25:07,633 --> 00:25:08,533 Gakugeki Inc. 670 00:25:10,299 --> 00:25:11,000 Arias. 671 00:25:11,733 --> 00:25:12,233 Wait, is it going to 672 00:25:12,233 --> 00:25:13,533 be in the Aria or by? 673 00:25:13,933 --> 00:25:14,666 So it sounds like it's 674 00:25:14,666 --> 00:25:15,533 going to be broken up a lot. 675 00:25:15,533 --> 00:25:16,599 They're going to be in the Aria. 676 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:17,533 What's the Aria? 677 00:25:19,166 --> 00:25:20,900 It's one of the big hotels there. 678 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:21,933 Ooh, Genki. 679 00:25:22,466 --> 00:25:22,966 It's going to be there. 680 00:25:23,266 --> 00:25:23,500 Oh, God. 681 00:25:23,533 --> 00:25:24,166 Sounds like they're going 682 00:25:24,166 --> 00:25:25,500 to be in multiple hotels. 683 00:25:26,299 --> 00:25:26,500 Random. 684 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:27,566 Oh, dude. 685 00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:31,966 Aria is awesome. 686 00:25:32,266 --> 00:25:35,033 That's a really good hotel to stay at. 687 00:25:36,866 --> 00:25:38,166 I think it's the one that has the remote. 688 00:25:38,633 --> 00:25:39,633 Like, yeah, the remote for 689 00:25:39,633 --> 00:25:40,466 the windows and everything. 690 00:25:40,466 --> 00:25:41,000 It's going to be there. 691 00:25:41,433 --> 00:25:43,299 The HDMI forum is going to be there, too. 692 00:25:45,366 --> 00:25:45,666 Yikes. 693 00:25:46,433 --> 00:25:47,866 Well, I mean, dude, 694 00:25:47,866 --> 00:25:49,833 like I don't I don't know. 695 00:25:49,833 --> 00:25:51,266 Well, I think we'll have more to talk 696 00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:53,166 about next week when after the 697 00:25:53,833 --> 00:25:55,000 whole event's over. 698 00:25:55,366 --> 00:25:55,933 Yeah, because there's a lot 699 00:25:55,933 --> 00:25:57,700 of there's a lot to go through. 700 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,766 As it seems right now, launch checks 701 00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:02,366 going to be there with their audio cards. 702 00:26:02,833 --> 00:26:03,200 Can't wait. 703 00:26:03,733 --> 00:26:05,833 As it stands right now, though, we have 704 00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:08,266 something to talk about the best of 2025. 705 00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:09,666 The results are in. 706 00:26:09,666 --> 00:26:11,166 And if you voted on Steam. 707 00:26:12,566 --> 00:26:12,766 Right. 708 00:26:13,166 --> 00:26:15,099 This is in the Steam Awards. 709 00:26:15,333 --> 00:26:16,466 This is sales. 710 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,933 Oh, oh, oh, yes, yes, yes. 711 00:26:20,233 --> 00:26:20,966 Best sellers. 712 00:26:20,966 --> 00:26:21,566 Oh, interesting. 713 00:26:22,966 --> 00:26:24,266 Has the Steam Awards happened? 714 00:26:26,066 --> 00:26:27,733 Wait, when does when does it end? 715 00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:32,366 Because January the third at 1 p.m. 716 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,866 Oh, weird. 717 00:26:34,466 --> 00:26:35,466 So at 1 p.m. 718 00:26:36,233 --> 00:26:38,166 So like after this podcast ends, the 719 00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:39,000 voting will include. 720 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,433 I guess we have an 721 00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:40,433 opportunity by next week. 722 00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:41,133 No. 723 00:26:42,533 --> 00:26:45,133 Um, I'm surprised 724 00:26:45,133 --> 00:26:47,233 Oblivion was so popular. 725 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:48,433 Well, remember, people 726 00:26:48,433 --> 00:26:49,766 thought that Oblivion would kill 727 00:26:49,933 --> 00:26:51,033 Expedition 33's 728 00:26:51,033 --> 00:26:52,833 chances of selling anything. 729 00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:54,099 If you recall. 730 00:26:55,233 --> 00:26:57,400 I don't think Shadow 731 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,833 Drop on the same day. 732 00:27:00,166 --> 00:27:01,666 Yeah, it's Shadow Drop. 733 00:27:01,666 --> 00:27:02,833 But that's the problem with Shadow Drop. 734 00:27:02,833 --> 00:27:03,566 They did probably hurt it. 735 00:27:03,566 --> 00:27:05,266 But like at the end of the day, a good 736 00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:06,466 game is going to out, you 737 00:27:06,466 --> 00:27:07,333 know, it's going to shine. 738 00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:08,066 Wasn't. 739 00:27:08,066 --> 00:27:10,000 No, I'm pretty sure 740 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,533 people waited until now. 741 00:27:11,533 --> 00:27:12,666 That's probably why it was bought right 742 00:27:12,666 --> 00:27:13,533 here is because people 743 00:27:13,533 --> 00:27:14,599 wait until now to buy. 744 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:14,799 Yes. 745 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,366 So true that true that wasn't the 746 00:27:16,366 --> 00:27:17,066 performance like 747 00:27:17,066 --> 00:27:18,033 garbage when it launched. 748 00:27:19,033 --> 00:27:21,766 Yeah, it was OK. 749 00:27:22,633 --> 00:27:23,533 It's Elder Scrolls. 750 00:27:23,766 --> 00:27:24,166 I don't know. 751 00:27:24,166 --> 00:27:26,766 I don't know why people expect Elder 752 00:27:26,766 --> 00:27:28,633 Scrolls to be different than what it is. 753 00:27:28,933 --> 00:27:29,766 Here's my question. 754 00:27:29,766 --> 00:27:31,299 Was the Elder Scrolls ever good? 755 00:27:32,266 --> 00:27:33,766 Because like playing some Bethesda's 756 00:27:33,766 --> 00:27:34,966 recent games have made me 757 00:27:34,966 --> 00:27:36,200 not allowed in terms of like 758 00:27:36,733 --> 00:27:38,400 the games, because playing some of the 759 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,166 recent games have made me question if 760 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,766 I ever really liked Bethesda ever. 761 00:27:43,766 --> 00:27:45,566 I honestly have never played a Bethesda 762 00:27:45,566 --> 00:27:46,366 game that I've liked. 763 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:51,000 I'm different. 764 00:27:51,333 --> 00:27:52,166 I don't like the Elder 765 00:27:52,166 --> 00:27:53,133 Scrolls series that much. 766 00:27:53,366 --> 00:27:54,966 Skyrim is the only one I've beat, and I 767 00:27:54,966 --> 00:27:55,666 did play a lot of it. 768 00:27:55,666 --> 00:27:57,233 It was fun to have dragons drop out of 769 00:27:57,233 --> 00:27:58,433 the sky and eat your face. 770 00:27:59,333 --> 00:28:00,566 That was interesting. 771 00:28:01,766 --> 00:28:03,866 The lore was much better as far as a 772 00:28:03,866 --> 00:28:07,666 fantasy, but yeah, I just 773 00:28:07,666 --> 00:28:09,333 could never finish Oblivion or. 774 00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:10,866 So yeah, look at that. 775 00:28:10,866 --> 00:28:13,133 We have a Fallout series, though, is my. 776 00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:15,433 So we look at the Platinum series. 777 00:28:15,466 --> 00:28:17,933 We have a couple of games that we 778 00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:19,799 expected to sell pretty well. 779 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:21,866 FIFA, Battlefield, 780 00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:24,333 Borderlands, Arc Raiders. 781 00:28:26,333 --> 00:28:27,666 And then we have Arc Raiders. 782 00:28:27,666 --> 00:28:29,766 I think it was the best selling Steam 783 00:28:29,766 --> 00:28:30,799 game from my understanding. 784 00:28:31,633 --> 00:28:33,266 Article wise, like I read an article that 785 00:28:33,266 --> 00:28:35,333 yeah, it's based on revenue, too. 786 00:28:35,566 --> 00:28:37,033 It's not based on copies sold. 787 00:28:38,033 --> 00:28:39,366 So it's even more impressive when 788 00:28:39,366 --> 00:28:41,666 Silksong makes it on the list like this. 789 00:28:42,033 --> 00:28:43,466 Yeah, that is crazy. 790 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:46,966 I am not shocked by that. 791 00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:49,766 Well, it's like the fact is it's sort of 792 00:28:49,766 --> 00:28:51,033 my revenue, like high tech said. 793 00:28:51,033 --> 00:28:54,733 So it's like this game sold maybe twice 794 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:56,466 as many or even more 795 00:28:56,466 --> 00:28:57,400 copies as some of the other 796 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,066 ones on here based on its price. 797 00:28:59,066 --> 00:28:59,866 Yeah, you'd have to 798 00:28:59,866 --> 00:29:01,133 make that revenue, right? 799 00:29:01,833 --> 00:29:04,066 Yeah, but it's going up against like 800 00:29:04,066 --> 00:29:06,266 games that are selling for 70 freaking 801 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:07,933 dollars and it's 20. 802 00:29:10,233 --> 00:29:10,933 Yeah, let's look at 803 00:29:10,933 --> 00:29:12,066 some other games here, too. 804 00:29:12,066 --> 00:29:13,533 We've got let's go to gold. 805 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,233 We've got I thought people didn't like 806 00:29:18,233 --> 00:29:19,833 Assassin's Creed Chat is what happened. 807 00:29:20,233 --> 00:29:22,933 I thought we were boycotting because I 808 00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:24,033 thought people boycott 809 00:29:24,033 --> 00:29:25,266 because there was a black guy in 810 00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:28,933 the game. Oh, was that too spicy for 12? 811 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:31,799 Don't listen to anything. 812 00:29:32,133 --> 00:29:33,366 No, Twitter says 813 00:29:33,366 --> 00:29:34,466 because they're all idiots. 814 00:29:35,133 --> 00:29:38,033 Yeah, honestly, we talked about how 815 00:29:38,033 --> 00:29:40,066 stupid Twitter is in the bonus show. 816 00:29:40,733 --> 00:29:41,266 And YouTube. 817 00:29:41,266 --> 00:29:42,466 There's some of YouTube videos on it. 818 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:44,166 It's funny because people go down in the 819 00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:45,200 theories like crazy like 820 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,233 it's a grift, of course. 821 00:29:47,566 --> 00:29:49,500 But like, did guys just enjoy the 822 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:51,233 freaking games and just 823 00:29:51,233 --> 00:29:53,333 move on like it's a game. 824 00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:53,833 Digimon's up there. 825 00:29:54,099 --> 00:29:54,566 People have creativity. 826 00:29:55,233 --> 00:29:56,233 Times changes up there. 827 00:29:56,233 --> 00:29:56,833 That's pretty sick. 828 00:29:58,866 --> 00:29:59,733 It's a pretty cool game. 829 00:30:00,033 --> 00:30:00,633 Digimon where? 830 00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:01,366 Right there. 831 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:02,500 Digimon times changes. 832 00:30:03,866 --> 00:30:05,166 I couldn't I didn't 833 00:30:05,166 --> 00:30:06,366 even see the text there. 834 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,533 They that that is a horror. 835 00:30:09,733 --> 00:30:11,366 They really got to fix that artwork. 836 00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:13,000 That is really bad. 837 00:30:13,033 --> 00:30:14,400 There's nothing legible. 838 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,166 You can't read it. 839 00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:15,900 Fought. 840 00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:19,133 It's almost to make it bigger. 841 00:30:19,133 --> 00:30:19,766 Yeah, I agree. 842 00:30:19,766 --> 00:30:20,233 The titles. 843 00:30:21,066 --> 00:30:22,633 The title needs to be bigger, but also 844 00:30:22,633 --> 00:30:26,933 like, like, I don't know, like the image, 845 00:30:26,933 --> 00:30:28,000 like the people in it. 846 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,733 I don't even know what I'm looking at. 847 00:30:31,766 --> 00:30:32,033 Yeah. 848 00:30:33,099 --> 00:30:33,533 Split fiction. 849 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,099 To be fair, though, they're using that. 850 00:30:35,533 --> 00:30:38,433 That's crazy that you have games that 851 00:30:38,433 --> 00:30:40,366 aren't even on sale that are like, 852 00:30:41,533 --> 00:30:42,333 getting the high end. 853 00:30:42,533 --> 00:30:44,433 Enjoy Europa a game. 854 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:46,633 It looks like The Sims, to be honest. 855 00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:50,299 If my friend Carl has over a thousand 856 00:30:50,299 --> 00:30:52,433 hours in Europa universe, Alice five. 857 00:30:54,299 --> 00:30:55,666 Oh, is it good? 858 00:30:58,333 --> 00:30:59,066 Apparently, it's good. 859 00:30:59,333 --> 00:31:00,266 He's he's into those 860 00:31:00,266 --> 00:31:01,700 like grand strategy games. 861 00:31:02,566 --> 00:31:04,366 Oh, and then we have so I was happy to 862 00:31:04,366 --> 00:31:07,133 see Civ seven in here, but yeah. 863 00:31:07,633 --> 00:31:08,133 Civ seven. 864 00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:09,166 I haven't played it at all. 865 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,566 I didn't even know it came out this year 866 00:31:11,566 --> 00:31:13,533 until a couple of weeks ago. 867 00:31:13,933 --> 00:31:16,033 I've heard not great. 868 00:31:16,266 --> 00:31:17,799 I went and looked at the reviews and like 869 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:18,700 people playing it and 870 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:19,433 it doesn't sound like 871 00:31:19,433 --> 00:31:20,533 it was that good, but they 872 00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:21,500 complain about every year. 873 00:31:21,866 --> 00:31:24,033 Every time there's a release, you can't 874 00:31:24,033 --> 00:31:26,266 really make the Civ people happy. 875 00:31:26,566 --> 00:31:27,400 So let's look at silver. 876 00:31:28,933 --> 00:31:30,400 Silver's got some interesting ones. 877 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,033 We've got Delta room. 878 00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:33,466 We've got the Last of 879 00:31:33,466 --> 00:31:35,133 Us part two remastered. 880 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:37,633 We've got where wins meet. 881 00:31:39,333 --> 00:31:41,299 We've got Final Fantasy seven rebirth. 882 00:31:43,633 --> 00:31:46,166 We've got the first Berserker Kazan. 883 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:48,566 I've heard that game is pretty good. 884 00:31:51,133 --> 00:31:51,599 Well, and we've got 885 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:52,733 RuneScape on there, too. 886 00:31:53,299 --> 00:31:55,266 RuneScape Dragon Wilds. 887 00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:57,633 It's not tech out of 888 00:31:57,633 --> 00:31:58,833 world to out of worlds to. 889 00:32:00,333 --> 00:32:01,666 I'm part of that statistic. 890 00:32:01,866 --> 00:32:03,066 I bought it during the sale. 891 00:32:04,733 --> 00:32:07,433 Some people in my in my Discord server 892 00:32:07,433 --> 00:32:08,766 were saying they wanted to play that as a 893 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,033 group game. 894 00:32:11,466 --> 00:32:12,466 That's a fun one. 895 00:32:12,566 --> 00:32:13,766 It's one that you'll laugh. 896 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,700 But what's in the bronze? 897 00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:19,333 Mega bunk. 898 00:32:20,099 --> 00:32:21,066 Super Robot Wars. 899 00:32:21,466 --> 00:32:22,166 Oh, that's out. 900 00:32:24,366 --> 00:32:24,733 Let's see. 901 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,233 Ball expat. 902 00:32:29,133 --> 00:32:29,799 Free to play. 903 00:32:30,166 --> 00:32:32,333 So wait, is this is 904 00:32:32,333 --> 00:32:33,933 this based on revenue? 905 00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:35,466 Otherwise you wouldn't see 906 00:32:35,466 --> 00:32:36,466 free to play games on here. 907 00:32:36,866 --> 00:32:40,333 Would it be would it be what it would be 908 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:41,700 sales rate like in game 909 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:42,866 in app sales and stuff? 910 00:32:43,099 --> 00:32:44,666 Free to play would be at the top. 911 00:32:45,066 --> 00:32:45,833 And I don't think they 912 00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:47,633 record in game sales, do they? 913 00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:48,466 They'd have to. 914 00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:51,966 So no, no, they don't base it on sales. 915 00:32:51,966 --> 00:32:53,133 They based it on copies, 916 00:32:53,133 --> 00:32:54,433 like probably added to library. 917 00:32:54,433 --> 00:32:56,799 So I've played blue protocol star 918 00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:57,599 residents because I was 919 00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,933 looking for a new MMO and it sucks. 920 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,366 It sucks. 921 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:07,066 Yeah, it's just too many. 922 00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:10,733 We said, of course, because I hate cars, 923 00:33:10,733 --> 00:33:12,033 but I love car games. 924 00:33:14,833 --> 00:33:15,466 How's the crashing? 925 00:33:16,266 --> 00:33:16,533 I do. 926 00:33:17,266 --> 00:33:17,466 Yeah. 927 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:18,099 What'd you say? 928 00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:19,700 How's the how's the crashing? 929 00:33:20,533 --> 00:33:21,333 I haven't played it. 930 00:33:21,566 --> 00:33:24,366 I I played the first instead of course. 931 00:33:24,566 --> 00:33:24,766 Yeah. 932 00:33:25,933 --> 00:33:27,033 I don't know if that's a sequel. 933 00:33:27,033 --> 00:33:27,533 I don't know. 934 00:33:27,533 --> 00:33:32,066 But the precinct, I saw my Noah from 935 00:33:32,099 --> 00:33:33,833 seeing the issue recommend the demo for 936 00:33:33,833 --> 00:33:35,599 this during an XFES at one point. 937 00:33:36,766 --> 00:33:37,966 It's like a cop simulator. 938 00:33:40,266 --> 00:33:41,333 Seeing people play this. 939 00:33:43,266 --> 00:33:43,866 It's hilarious. 940 00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:45,666 And also the sonic 941 00:33:45,666 --> 00:33:47,233 sonic racing crossroads. 942 00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,700 Sonic racing crossworlds is on the list. 943 00:33:52,133 --> 00:33:53,799 I've heard a lot of good things about it. 944 00:33:54,733 --> 00:33:55,466 Yeah, same. 945 00:33:56,033 --> 00:33:57,633 I I really like Sonic 946 00:33:57,633 --> 00:33:59,033 All Stars Racing Transform. 947 00:33:59,266 --> 00:33:59,966 That was a good one. 948 00:34:01,333 --> 00:34:02,233 Was that the one with the 949 00:34:02,233 --> 00:34:03,766 was that the one with the. 950 00:34:05,266 --> 00:34:07,233 TF2 characters and record Ralph as well. 951 00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:10,233 I don't remember seeing TF2, 952 00:34:10,233 --> 00:34:12,166 but I know record Ralph in it. 953 00:34:14,433 --> 00:34:16,166 Just one there was some TF2 characters in 954 00:34:16,166 --> 00:34:17,699 that car in a sonic car. 955 00:34:17,966 --> 00:34:20,466 I mean, it's been ages since I played it. 956 00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:23,533 So in terms of steam deck, 957 00:34:23,833 --> 00:34:25,266 Platinum games include Hades, 958 00:34:25,366 --> 00:34:29,833 Bellatro, Cyberpunk 2077, The Witcher 3. 959 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,533 Four bucks for the Witcher 3. 960 00:34:31,766 --> 00:34:32,300 Wait, wait, wait. 961 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:33,300 Last year you're looking at now? 962 00:34:33,533 --> 00:34:34,599 No, this is Steam Deck. 963 00:34:34,766 --> 00:34:35,633 This is Steam Deck. 964 00:34:35,966 --> 00:34:36,500 Oh, I didn't know there 965 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:37,433 was a Steam Deck category. 966 00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:38,733 Yeah, dude. 967 00:34:39,533 --> 00:34:41,266 We got Hades 2 Hollow Knight. 968 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:42,666 The original Hollow 969 00:34:42,666 --> 00:34:44,366 Knight beat Silksong somehow. 970 00:34:45,033 --> 00:34:46,166 No, it's not sorted by. 971 00:34:46,433 --> 00:34:47,233 Oh, it's not sorted. 972 00:34:47,233 --> 00:34:47,733 It's not sorted. 973 00:34:47,733 --> 00:34:48,000 It's random. 974 00:34:48,633 --> 00:34:48,866 Okay. 975 00:34:48,866 --> 00:34:49,233 All right. 976 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,633 So that's first to 12th place randomly. 977 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:54,333 Oh, that would make sense. 978 00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:54,533 Yeah. 979 00:34:55,366 --> 00:34:56,166 We got Vampire 980 00:34:56,166 --> 00:34:57,433 Survivor, The Vulture's Gate, 981 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,533 Stardew Valley, Elvin Ring, 982 00:35:00,033 --> 00:35:02,633 Silksong, Red Dead Redemption 2. 983 00:35:04,666 --> 00:35:04,866 Interesting. 984 00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:06,933 I mean, dude, if you want to know what 985 00:35:06,933 --> 00:35:08,566 games are good, check this list, 986 00:35:08,866 --> 00:35:11,333 because this is the games that sold the 987 00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:12,633 best for the Steam Deck, right? 988 00:35:13,033 --> 00:35:15,766 So it's a good list too. 989 00:35:15,766 --> 00:35:16,500 It's a good list. 990 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:17,566 Like, if you need a 991 00:35:17,566 --> 00:35:18,466 game for your Steam Deck, 992 00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:21,366 I would use this list to probably grab it 993 00:35:21,366 --> 00:35:22,133 with a few exceptions. 994 00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:22,766 There's a couple of 995 00:35:22,766 --> 00:35:23,500 games on here where I'm like, 996 00:35:23,533 --> 00:35:24,533 they don't run. 997 00:35:24,766 --> 00:35:26,133 It doesn't run that kind of list. 998 00:35:26,433 --> 00:35:27,166 Expedition 33, one 999 00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:27,800 more on the Steam Deck. 1000 00:35:29,233 --> 00:35:30,033 It runs okay. 1001 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,500 Some people say it runs fine, but because 1002 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:33,900 the FSR, like, it runs fine. 1003 00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:34,433 But the problem is 1004 00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:34,966 you're going to have... 1005 00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,000 It's not going to be as clear at times. 1006 00:35:37,366 --> 00:35:39,333 So it bothered me a little bit to where I 1007 00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:40,166 didn't play it on the Steam Deck. 1008 00:35:40,166 --> 00:35:41,866 Makes sense, especially since, you know, 1009 00:35:41,866 --> 00:35:43,033 you have to parry stuff 1010 00:35:43,033 --> 00:35:44,766 and like there's a lot of timing based 1011 00:35:44,766 --> 00:35:46,866 reactions to attacks. 1012 00:35:49,133 --> 00:35:49,333 Yeah. 1013 00:35:49,633 --> 00:35:50,133 It was just... 1014 00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:51,666 Well, it's such a beautiful world and the 1015 00:35:51,666 --> 00:35:53,266 art style is so great 1016 00:35:53,266 --> 00:35:54,433 that I wanted to actually 1017 00:35:54,433 --> 00:35:57,033 experience it in a better light. 1018 00:35:57,033 --> 00:35:58,866 Like, I think Witcher, Cyberpunk, 1019 00:36:00,266 --> 00:36:01,466 Expedition are all games. 1020 00:36:01,666 --> 00:36:02,566 I just can't play on 1021 00:36:02,566 --> 00:36:03,433 Steam Deck, I'll be honest. 1022 00:36:04,133 --> 00:36:05,699 Yeah. Check the demos out. 1023 00:36:05,699 --> 00:36:06,433 I want to see demos. 1024 00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:10,633 The most popular demos. 1025 00:36:12,699 --> 00:36:13,599 What is Half Sword? 1026 00:36:16,366 --> 00:36:17,199 Do there's Half Sword? 1027 00:36:17,633 --> 00:36:18,933 It's a broken image link. 1028 00:36:19,433 --> 00:36:20,033 Oh, it's down there. 1029 00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:21,266 It's not on your list. 1030 00:36:21,933 --> 00:36:24,866 Oh, it's like a knight. 1031 00:36:25,466 --> 00:36:26,233 Ooh, a knight. 1032 00:36:26,233 --> 00:36:27,000 We were just talking about 1033 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,933 this in the bonus episode. 1034 00:36:29,466 --> 00:36:30,233 Knights and shit. 1035 00:36:33,366 --> 00:36:33,766 Half Sword. 1036 00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:36,133 It's got Bill Gates verse... 1037 00:36:36,433 --> 00:36:37,000 Idris Elba. 1038 00:36:37,933 --> 00:36:39,433 Idris Elba. 1039 00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:41,366 Did I pay for that DLC? 1040 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,733 It's a physics based medieval combat 1041 00:36:45,733 --> 00:36:46,833 simulator featuring 1042 00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:48,133 historically accurate, 1043 00:36:48,633 --> 00:36:50,699 what is that, 15th century ARP. 1044 00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,233 Arms and armor. 1045 00:36:53,366 --> 00:36:54,466 We're not afraid to show the brutal 1046 00:36:54,466 --> 00:36:55,833 nature of medieval combat. 1047 00:36:57,133 --> 00:36:57,599 That music. 1048 00:36:58,166 --> 00:36:58,800 Can you hear the music? 1049 00:36:59,066 --> 00:36:59,733 Yeah, I can. 1050 00:37:00,133 --> 00:37:00,633 I don't like it. 1051 00:37:00,633 --> 00:37:01,133 I can hear the music. 1052 00:37:01,133 --> 00:37:02,033 It's really loud. 1053 00:37:03,766 --> 00:37:03,966 Yeah. 1054 00:37:03,966 --> 00:37:04,433 That is... 1055 00:37:05,066 --> 00:37:06,166 Yeah, I'll mute it. 1056 00:37:06,466 --> 00:37:07,533 Not sure about that music. 1057 00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:08,266 Yeah, I'm not keen on it. 1058 00:37:08,266 --> 00:37:10,233 But I mean, it kind of reminds me of... 1059 00:37:10,233 --> 00:37:10,933 It looks cool though. 1060 00:37:12,733 --> 00:37:13,666 Doesn't that matter, actually? 1061 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,066 What about Hurdigirdie? 1062 00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,366 You ever listened to Hurdigirdie music? 1063 00:37:17,099 --> 00:37:17,733 Hurdigirdie? 1064 00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:19,000 Hurdigirdie, dude. 1065 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:20,233 No, I can't say I have. 1066 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,300 Fire. 1067 00:37:21,833 --> 00:37:23,166 Hurdigirdie. 1068 00:37:24,333 --> 00:37:24,933 You know what looks fire? 1069 00:37:25,366 --> 00:37:26,466 This game right here. 1070 00:37:27,666 --> 00:37:28,900 I kind of want to try it out. 1071 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:29,400 There's a demo. 1072 00:37:30,033 --> 00:37:30,466 Try the demo. 1073 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,133 Let us know what you think for next week. 1074 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:33,266 Let's see. 1075 00:37:33,266 --> 00:37:34,733 We see some of the usual suspects. 1076 00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:35,333 We see... 1077 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,233 Schedule 1. 1078 00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:38,500 Delta rune. 1079 00:37:39,666 --> 00:37:40,500 Stellar Blade. 1080 00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:43,066 What... 1081 00:37:43,633 --> 00:37:45,666 Let's see what else is down there below. 1082 00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:49,166 Oh, Mecide Super Popular. 1083 00:37:49,233 --> 00:37:51,199 I know some guys that are into that. 1084 00:37:53,833 --> 00:37:54,433 I have it. 1085 00:37:54,433 --> 00:37:55,466 I was going to stream 1086 00:37:55,466 --> 00:37:56,099 it one of these days 1087 00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:58,900 because it's one of those weird, crazy 1088 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:00,666 games, but never got to it. 1089 00:38:00,666 --> 00:38:01,900 See, Haste is a popular demo. 1090 00:38:02,266 --> 00:38:03,199 Is this a game out yet? 1091 00:38:03,866 --> 00:38:04,866 Yeah, I have it. 1092 00:38:05,066 --> 00:38:05,400 It's good. 1093 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,533 Oh yeah, it's been out for a while. 1094 00:38:07,099 --> 00:38:07,866 I've been playing it, 1095 00:38:07,866 --> 00:38:08,766 actually, on my Steam Deck. 1096 00:38:09,833 --> 00:38:10,699 Maybe I should get it. 1097 00:38:11,066 --> 00:38:11,333 And peek. 1098 00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:14,266 It's taking me a lot longer than I want 1099 00:38:14,266 --> 00:38:15,966 to actually get good at it, though. 1100 00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:18,166 It's okay, Gardner. 1101 00:38:18,266 --> 00:38:19,400 You'll get good at it eventually. 1102 00:38:19,633 --> 00:38:21,833 You have all the time in the world. 1103 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:25,366 Yeah, unless I'm screwing up my... 1104 00:38:26,566 --> 00:38:27,133 My math. 1105 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,433 That is true. 1106 00:38:29,033 --> 00:38:30,666 I gotta say, I like that 1107 00:38:30,666 --> 00:38:32,300 there's a lot more demos now. 1108 00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:33,533 Yeah, Valve's doing a 1109 00:38:33,533 --> 00:38:35,699 lot to encourage demos. 1110 00:38:35,699 --> 00:38:38,266 Oh, I forgot to mention something that 1111 00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:39,333 I've been doing this week. 1112 00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:39,666 Hold on. 1113 00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:40,466 Oh. 1114 00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:46,099 I'm not going to spoil too much, but this 1115 00:38:46,099 --> 00:38:47,033 is something that's going... 1116 00:38:47,433 --> 00:38:49,866 going to happen on my website. 1117 00:38:51,699 --> 00:38:53,233 PC Gamer Demo Disks. 1118 00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:58,633 I bought three years worth of PC Gamer 1119 00:38:58,633 --> 00:39:01,699 Demo Disks, 1999, 2000, and 2001, 1120 00:39:02,566 --> 00:39:04,633 which is like peak PC gaming for me. 1121 00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:07,666 And I've been playing it on period 1122 00:39:07,666 --> 00:39:08,933 accurate hardware, too. 1123 00:39:10,166 --> 00:39:10,266 So... 1124 00:39:10,533 --> 00:39:11,333 Where did you source 1125 00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:12,566 period accurate hardware from? 1126 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,366 I found a PC at my old job. 1127 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:18,933 And I was like, "Yo, can I take this?" 1128 00:39:18,933 --> 00:39:19,566 And they were like, "Sure." 1129 00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:23,466 So I've just had it for ages. 1130 00:39:24,966 --> 00:39:25,166 Damn. 1131 00:39:26,166 --> 00:39:26,966 I have a couple of... 1132 00:39:27,366 --> 00:39:29,066 I could probably almost build one. 1133 00:39:29,566 --> 00:39:31,533 I have everything pretty much done in my 1134 00:39:31,533 --> 00:39:32,766 basement to build one. 1135 00:39:32,766 --> 00:39:33,233 Do it. 1136 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,300 Put it run. 1137 00:39:36,366 --> 00:39:37,666 Yeah, I need to. 1138 00:39:38,866 --> 00:39:39,233 It's time. 1139 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:40,333 Outer Worlds has 1140 00:39:40,333 --> 00:39:41,199 taken all my time, though. 1141 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:42,166 Well, I mean, you know, 1142 00:39:42,433 --> 00:39:43,733 demos on Steam are fun. 1143 00:39:43,966 --> 00:39:45,666 PC Gamer demos are also fun. 1144 00:39:46,733 --> 00:39:49,333 But GOG is also fun. 1145 00:39:50,566 --> 00:39:51,733 GOG is getting acquired 1146 00:39:51,733 --> 00:39:54,033 by its original co-founder. 1147 00:39:55,233 --> 00:39:55,433 What? 1148 00:39:55,633 --> 00:39:57,300 Hitec, give us the details on this. 1149 00:39:58,566 --> 00:39:59,099 Excuse me. 1150 00:39:59,099 --> 00:40:01,133 So basically, GOG is 1151 00:40:01,133 --> 00:40:04,333 being acquired by Michael... 1152 00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:07,166 How do I pronounce this name? 1153 00:40:07,566 --> 00:40:08,033 You guys know? 1154 00:40:08,633 --> 00:40:09,599 James, you might know, right? 1155 00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:10,233 Kinsky. 1156 00:40:11,766 --> 00:40:13,566 Michael Kaczynski. 1157 00:40:17,066 --> 00:40:17,900 I can't read Polish. 1158 00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:21,066 I don't read Polish either. 1159 00:40:21,699 --> 00:40:22,366 I can read Russian. 1160 00:40:22,566 --> 00:40:24,033 Oh, I thought they would be similar 1161 00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:24,933 enough for you to read. 1162 00:40:24,933 --> 00:40:25,266 Whatever. 1163 00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:27,166 They're not similar. 1164 00:40:27,666 --> 00:40:27,866 Whatever. 1165 00:40:27,966 --> 00:40:28,699 So basically, they're 1166 00:40:28,699 --> 00:40:29,566 getting back together. 1167 00:40:31,233 --> 00:40:32,233 I'm not sure why, though, 1168 00:40:32,233 --> 00:40:33,500 besides he just wants to. 1169 00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:36,533 But it is worth mentioning that he did 1170 00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:37,900 found GOG with the 1171 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:39,233 original mission statement 1172 00:40:39,233 --> 00:40:40,566 that's still intact to this day. 1173 00:40:42,366 --> 00:40:44,933 So it sounds a little better than... 1174 00:40:45,233 --> 00:40:45,833 It sounds a little 1175 00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:48,333 better than like most, right? 1176 00:40:53,099 --> 00:40:53,266 Interesting. 1177 00:40:56,666 --> 00:40:58,433 So why? 1178 00:40:59,699 --> 00:41:01,566 Why is the original 1179 00:41:01,566 --> 00:41:03,433 co-founder acquiring it? 1180 00:41:03,433 --> 00:41:03,833 I'm curious. 1181 00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:04,966 I don't know. 1182 00:41:06,266 --> 00:41:07,233 And why does CD 1183 00:41:07,233 --> 00:41:08,166 Projekt Red want to get... 1184 00:41:08,699 --> 00:41:10,033 They just don't want 1185 00:41:10,033 --> 00:41:10,333 to manage it anymore. 1186 00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:11,800 So my understanding is that 1187 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,066 GOG is not profitable at all. 1188 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,166 For CD Projekt. 1189 00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:20,366 So like this is perhaps Michael is 1190 00:41:20,366 --> 00:41:23,133 interested in like turning it, 1191 00:41:23,133 --> 00:41:24,666 spinning it off into its own business and 1192 00:41:24,666 --> 00:41:25,533 making it profitable. 1193 00:41:26,633 --> 00:41:27,599 I don't know. 1194 00:41:27,733 --> 00:41:29,166 Maybe he's interested in keeping it 1195 00:41:29,166 --> 00:41:30,833 private so that it doesn't... 1196 00:41:31,033 --> 00:41:31,833 So that he doesn't have to worry about 1197 00:41:31,833 --> 00:41:33,966 the whims of like, well, 1198 00:41:33,966 --> 00:41:36,533 you know, investors and shit. 1199 00:41:36,533 --> 00:41:40,066 Whereas CD Projekt and CDPR are. 1200 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:44,566 Yeah, they are a little 1201 00:41:44,566 --> 00:41:45,833 bit different of a public. 1202 00:41:46,099 --> 00:41:48,033 They're a European public company. 1203 00:41:50,233 --> 00:41:54,233 So I don't know if it's quite as 1204 00:41:54,233 --> 00:41:55,533 cutthroat as the American 1205 00:41:55,533 --> 00:41:58,566 kind of public companies, 1206 00:41:58,566 --> 00:42:00,633 but yeah, I'm wondering maybe they were 1207 00:42:00,633 --> 00:42:02,033 getting pressured to... 1208 00:42:02,866 --> 00:42:03,766 I could see it being that they were 1209 00:42:03,766 --> 00:42:04,366 getting pressured to 1210 00:42:04,366 --> 00:42:06,066 like make GOG profitable. 1211 00:42:06,966 --> 00:42:08,366 I doubt it was like a money sink. 1212 00:42:08,633 --> 00:42:11,966 But yeah, it wasn't really bringing 1213 00:42:11,966 --> 00:42:13,666 anything worth keeping it on. 1214 00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,666 So I'm wondering maybe they want to make 1215 00:42:17,666 --> 00:42:18,966 sure that it's going to 1216 00:42:18,966 --> 00:42:19,733 be in the hands of someone 1217 00:42:19,733 --> 00:42:20,966 that's going to make it profitable, but 1218 00:42:20,966 --> 00:42:23,033 also like keep it in the same vein of 1219 00:42:23,033 --> 00:42:26,266 being more consumer friendly. 1220 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:31,133 So I mean, the truth is that we don't 1221 00:42:31,133 --> 00:42:31,933 know what's going to happen. 1222 00:42:32,166 --> 00:42:33,066 They say it's going to 1223 00:42:33,066 --> 00:42:34,466 be the same as it is now. 1224 00:42:34,766 --> 00:42:38,333 And that would be ideal if it is. But I have seen some 1225 00:42:38,333 --> 00:42:39,933 people... Sorry, go ahead. 1226 00:42:40,466 --> 00:42:41,633 Well, I was just going to say, like, 1227 00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:43,433 according to this press release, 1228 00:42:44,566 --> 00:42:46,433 this new chapter is about doubling down 1229 00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:49,433 on the vision of like, of having like 1230 00:42:49,433 --> 00:42:52,566 truly free DRM free games. 1231 00:42:54,033 --> 00:42:56,333 And I mean, preserving classics. 1232 00:42:56,633 --> 00:42:57,166 I mean, how much more 1233 00:42:57,166 --> 00:42:58,866 could they double down on this? 1234 00:42:58,866 --> 00:43:01,933 I mean, well, I feel like they've kind of 1235 00:43:01,933 --> 00:43:02,066 waffled a little bit on the DRM free thing. 1236 00:43:02,066 --> 00:43:07,233 Recently. Am I wrong about that? 1237 00:43:08,433 --> 00:43:09,900 I wouldn't know, to be honest. 1238 00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,533 I don't buy games on GOG, despite somehow 1239 00:43:12,533 --> 00:43:13,533 having 200 games on 1240 00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:14,433 there for some reason. 1241 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,466 Yeah, I mean, I think they've... 1242 00:43:19,466 --> 00:43:20,066 I've only bought a few games. 1243 00:43:20,066 --> 00:43:22,000 They've been like toying with the idea of 1244 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,300 letting some games not or have DRM or 1245 00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:27,033 something like that. 1246 00:43:27,033 --> 00:43:31,466 I don't remember exactly, but yeah. 1247 00:43:31,733 --> 00:43:31,833 I mean, I think they're going to be a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit. 1248 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,533 I don't know. I just I hope that like 1249 00:43:33,533 --> 00:43:35,133 they really kind of like... 1250 00:43:35,466 --> 00:43:36,400 Because GOG no longer 1251 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,766 stands for good old games. 1252 00:43:38,333 --> 00:43:41,033 And they're doing like a lot of like 1253 00:43:41,033 --> 00:43:42,666 modern games and stuff as well. 1254 00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:44,766 They get that though. I mean. 1255 00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:48,366 They'll eventually become good old games 1256 00:43:48,366 --> 00:43:50,133 though. New games become old. 1257 00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:50,466 That's true. 1258 00:43:50,699 --> 00:43:54,133 Wow. Those good new games will be good 1259 00:43:54,133 --> 00:43:56,466 old games in like 10 years or so. 1260 00:43:56,966 --> 00:43:57,133 Yeah. 1261 00:43:58,766 --> 00:43:58,966 I... 1262 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,466 As much as I like GOG and everything, I 1263 00:44:02,466 --> 00:44:04,133 just I don't know if the model is going 1264 00:44:04,133 --> 00:44:06,366 to ever be a breakout. 1265 00:44:06,933 --> 00:44:07,133 A sustainable. 1266 00:44:07,533 --> 00:44:09,566 Partially because you have to... 1267 00:44:10,666 --> 00:44:12,733 It's obviously sustainable enough to 1268 00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:13,599 where it's still alive. 1269 00:44:14,699 --> 00:44:15,599 I'll be honest, I'm a little... 1270 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:16,366 I'm a little surprised. 1271 00:44:16,699 --> 00:44:17,400 That's why one of the reasons 1272 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,166 I don't buy into GOG because 1273 00:44:19,166 --> 00:44:21,966 you have to convince a lot of these 1274 00:44:21,966 --> 00:44:24,133 companies to release 1275 00:44:24,133 --> 00:44:24,966 their stuff DRM free. 1276 00:44:25,233 --> 00:44:28,066 It's not just that too though. 1277 00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,166 They go into the back end of some of 1278 00:44:30,166 --> 00:44:32,666 these older titles and make sure they 1279 00:44:32,666 --> 00:44:34,166 work on newer systems. 1280 00:44:34,533 --> 00:44:35,466 And yeah, there's a lot of 1281 00:44:35,466 --> 00:44:38,433 games from like the dark ages. 1282 00:44:39,166 --> 00:44:40,333 Well, not the dark ages. 1283 00:44:41,166 --> 00:44:42,233 From like the older 1284 00:44:42,233 --> 00:44:43,666 days that don't really... 1285 00:44:44,133 --> 00:44:44,333 Enlightenment. 1286 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,833 Yeah, that don't 1287 00:44:45,833 --> 00:44:47,233 really work out of the box. 1288 00:44:47,233 --> 00:44:48,933 And like unlike a newer system. 1289 00:44:49,666 --> 00:44:49,866 Yeah. 1290 00:44:50,733 --> 00:44:53,300 But GOG does the work of doing that. 1291 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:53,833 They do the patches. 1292 00:44:53,833 --> 00:44:56,066 They apply the new features. They apply the no CD keys. 1293 00:44:56,066 --> 00:44:58,266 They apply a bunch of like modern patches 1294 00:44:58,266 --> 00:45:00,033 to make the games actually 1295 00:45:00,033 --> 00:45:01,933 function on newer systems. 1296 00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:05,699 But I mean, the big question now is how 1297 00:45:05,699 --> 00:45:06,900 much more of this can they do, 1298 00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:08,599 especially with newer games that'll 1299 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:10,366 become old in like 10 or 20 years, right? 1300 00:45:11,366 --> 00:45:12,966 I mean, there's no telling if a game that 1301 00:45:12,966 --> 00:45:15,633 releases that today will run on like, 1302 00:45:15,866 --> 00:45:17,000 I don't know, Windows 20. 1303 00:45:20,099 --> 00:45:21,366 It'll probably run on Steel One. 1304 00:45:21,699 --> 00:45:22,366 Steel One's just 1305 00:45:22,366 --> 00:45:24,666 amazing at running old games. 1306 00:45:25,133 --> 00:45:26,533 Which also begs the question, why don't 1307 00:45:26,533 --> 00:45:27,166 they have like an 1308 00:45:27,166 --> 00:45:28,933 official Linux launcher? 1309 00:45:28,933 --> 00:45:30,966 I mean, it's the most 1310 00:45:30,966 --> 00:45:32,033 requested feature, right? 1311 00:45:32,933 --> 00:45:33,966 Yeah, I think so. 1312 00:45:33,966 --> 00:45:37,833 I think at this point, it's not strictly 1313 00:45:37,833 --> 00:45:40,466 necessary for GOG to support Linux, 1314 00:45:40,766 --> 00:45:43,766 like with their Galaxy launcher for a 1315 00:45:43,766 --> 00:45:44,566 couple reasons, right? 1316 00:45:44,566 --> 00:45:46,333 We already have Heroic and Heroic is 1317 00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:48,166 awesome for managing your games. 1318 00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:54,166 And also like the subset of people who 1319 00:45:54,166 --> 00:45:56,333 are using Galaxy, as far as I know, 1320 00:45:56,833 --> 00:45:58,000 is like pretty, it's 1321 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,233 not, it's like 50-50. 1322 00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:01,033 Like most people, like half the people 1323 00:46:01,033 --> 00:46:02,366 who are buying games on GOG 1324 00:46:02,366 --> 00:46:04,033 don't even bother with Galaxy. 1325 00:46:06,433 --> 00:46:08,033 So I don't know. 1326 00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:10,266 I could be wrong about that number too, 1327 00:46:10,266 --> 00:46:11,966 but my understanding is like, 1328 00:46:11,966 --> 00:46:13,333 it's just, I don't think it's worth it 1329 00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:17,199 for them to develop a Linux launcher. 1330 00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:21,033 Oh, yeah. 1331 00:46:21,433 --> 00:46:22,433 Linux is still like a 1332 00:46:22,433 --> 00:46:24,533 subset of a subset of PC gaming. 1333 00:46:24,866 --> 00:46:28,266 So it's like, yes, like the Steam Deck is 1334 00:46:28,266 --> 00:46:29,566 pretty crazy awesome. 1335 00:46:29,566 --> 00:46:30,400 And it's like done a 1336 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,433 lot for Linux gaming. 1337 00:46:31,433 --> 00:46:32,199 We're still like 2%, 1338 00:46:32,666 --> 00:46:34,366 two and a half, right? 1339 00:46:36,066 --> 00:46:37,133 It's a healthy 2%. 1340 00:46:37,366 --> 00:46:37,566 Yeah. 1341 00:46:37,566 --> 00:46:39,566 And I mean, like, and I think 2026, 1342 00:46:39,566 --> 00:46:40,833 especially with the Steam Machine, 1343 00:46:41,566 --> 00:46:43,633 we're going to see, and with the frame, 1344 00:46:43,633 --> 00:46:44,566 we're going to see that number grow. 1345 00:46:44,566 --> 00:46:47,099 And it's going to probably, I wouldn't say that, number grow and it's going to probably, I 1346 00:46:47,099 --> 00:46:48,733 wouldn't be surprised to see it around 6% 1347 00:46:49,233 --> 00:46:50,133 by the end of the year. 1348 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,800 Like I'm going to have a wild take. 1349 00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:54,933 I'm going to have a really wild take. 1350 00:46:55,766 --> 00:46:58,433 I think if you, if you cut out some of 1351 00:46:58,433 --> 00:47:01,566 the older people that are playing on 1352 00:47:01,566 --> 00:47:02,833 really old hardware, 1353 00:47:02,833 --> 00:47:04,466 if you cut those people out, because it's 1354 00:47:04,466 --> 00:47:05,033 just, I don't know if 1355 00:47:05,033 --> 00:47:05,966 you'll ever get them 1356 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,266 converted in a reasonable amount of time. 1357 00:47:09,633 --> 00:47:12,533 But if you do like the past five, 10 1358 00:47:12,533 --> 00:47:13,566 years, I think you'll see a 10%. 1359 00:47:13,833 --> 00:47:14,400 Yeah. 1360 00:47:14,433 --> 00:47:15,866 I think we'll see 10% Steam 1361 00:47:15,866 --> 00:47:17,000 OS at the end of the year. 1362 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,566 That's a wild take, but I think we're 1363 00:47:18,566 --> 00:47:20,666 going to see a huge bump up. 1364 00:47:21,166 --> 00:47:26,500 And also because gaming is, so PC 1365 00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:29,199 hardware is scheduled 1366 00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,866 to drop 6% and sell. 1367 00:47:31,866 --> 00:47:33,366 Like it's going to, it's revenue is going 1368 00:47:33,366 --> 00:47:35,066 to be, we're going to have a bad year. 1369 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:36,366 Let's just say that. 1370 00:47:36,699 --> 00:47:38,233 And as content creators, that's another 1371 00:47:38,233 --> 00:47:38,666 thing we're going to 1372 00:47:38,666 --> 00:47:39,733 have a really bad year. 1373 00:47:40,366 --> 00:47:41,400 I know we don't have it on here, but 1374 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,266 that's one thing we should 1375 00:47:42,266 --> 00:47:43,233 have talked about is like, 1376 00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:45,800 as content creation with PC hardware and 1377 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,733 PC stuff, like we're, it's 1378 00:47:47,733 --> 00:47:48,900 probably going to be a bad year. 1379 00:47:48,966 --> 00:47:50,099 Yeah, I would imagine. 1380 00:47:51,833 --> 00:47:54,533 But also like we're, we're, I mean, I 1381 00:47:54,533 --> 00:47:56,733 don't know how much like Linux specific 1382 00:47:56,733 --> 00:47:57,766 content you guys do, 1383 00:47:57,933 --> 00:48:01,333 but like most of my articles on my site, 1384 00:48:02,433 --> 00:48:05,533 like the top ones were all like Linux. 1385 00:48:05,966 --> 00:48:07,566 Here's how to use Linux, use Linux. 1386 00:48:08,033 --> 00:48:10,833 So, or they were Steam Deck specific. 1387 00:48:11,033 --> 00:48:12,466 So there's a ton of interest in that. 1388 00:48:12,533 --> 00:48:14,033 And I think you're right, James, like 1389 00:48:14,033 --> 00:48:16,466 with, with the cost of new 1390 00:48:16,466 --> 00:48:18,266 hardware being astronomical 1391 00:48:18,566 --> 00:48:21,166 and just fundamentally unaffordable for 1392 00:48:21,166 --> 00:48:24,166 most people, like, and 1393 00:48:24,166 --> 00:48:25,033 most people, you know, 1394 00:48:25,033 --> 00:48:27,933 most PC gamers already have a gaming PC. 1395 00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:29,099 So it's like, how can you 1396 00:48:29,099 --> 00:48:30,633 stretch your dollar more? 1397 00:48:30,833 --> 00:48:32,900 Well, put Linux on it. 1398 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:34,366 You're going to get more for your, for 1399 00:48:34,366 --> 00:48:36,833 your, uh, more bang for your buck. 1400 00:48:36,833 --> 00:48:37,833 You know, you don't even 1401 00:48:37,833 --> 00:48:39,433 have to buy new hardware. 1402 00:48:41,033 --> 00:48:43,433 And windows 11, like I started using 1403 00:48:43,433 --> 00:48:46,033 windows 11 after like a 1404 00:48:46,033 --> 00:48:47,199 little after it was out. 1405 00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:48,633 Like it took me a little bit to adopt it, 1406 00:48:48,633 --> 00:48:49,900 but when I first 1407 00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:51,133 started using it, it was fine, 1408 00:48:51,133 --> 00:48:52,533 but they've injected so 1409 00:48:52,533 --> 00:48:55,366 much crap into it that it is. 1410 00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,866 I, I use windows right now because it's 1411 00:48:59,866 --> 00:49:01,199 still the easiest way to 1412 00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:02,266 do my game development. 1413 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,166 And I use it in that case, then I'm just 1414 00:49:06,166 --> 00:49:06,800 like, I'll just play some of the games that I need to play 1415 00:49:06,833 --> 00:49:08,533 some of the games that I need to play 1416 00:49:08,533 --> 00:49:12,066 that it's like, do I play 1417 00:49:12,066 --> 00:49:13,300 any, I think arc Raiders and 1418 00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:13,966 actually hell divers 1419 00:49:13,966 --> 00:49:15,033 both play on steam OS. 1420 00:49:15,466 --> 00:49:17,866 So maybe I don't like, cause I play those 1421 00:49:17,866 --> 00:49:19,166 types of online games. 1422 00:49:19,166 --> 00:49:21,566 Like maybe, I mean, I could see myself 1423 00:49:21,566 --> 00:49:23,033 moving fully to steam OS 1424 00:49:23,033 --> 00:49:24,933 once there's a really good 1425 00:49:25,133 --> 00:49:28,699 port of the Unreal engine over to Mac OS 1426 00:49:28,699 --> 00:49:31,133 or steam, um, because I 1427 00:49:31,133 --> 00:49:32,000 don't know if I'd need it 1428 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,800 for anything else. 1429 00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,800 Minecraft maybe because my sons do like 1430 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,066 really like playing Minecraft. 1431 00:49:37,066 --> 00:49:37,266 Bedrock. 1432 00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:39,533 And so play Java. 1433 00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:41,033 Yeah, they play both. 1434 00:49:41,366 --> 00:49:41,833 They play both. 1435 00:49:42,366 --> 00:49:42,966 Java's on Linux. 1436 00:49:43,699 --> 00:49:43,966 I prefer. 1437 00:49:45,166 --> 00:49:46,433 Yeah, Java Linux, but I 1438 00:49:46,433 --> 00:49:47,599 think it's also played. 1439 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:48,166 Yeah, I know. 1440 00:49:48,166 --> 00:49:48,400 But right. 1441 00:49:51,566 --> 00:49:53,666 You can also play as bedrock too now. 1442 00:49:54,566 --> 00:49:55,233 Yeah, they play both. 1443 00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:58,166 So they both, they, they, 1444 00:51:05,666 --> 00:51:07,966 and then add them right into 1445 00:51:07,966 --> 00:51:11,000 the Steam, non-Steam section. 1446 00:51:12,266 --> 00:51:13,666 And then boom, you can launch your games. 1447 00:51:13,666 --> 00:51:16,166 You can customize the Proton launcher. 1448 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,433 You can customize if 1449 00:51:17,433 --> 00:51:18,300 you want it to be wine 1450 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:19,566 or GE Proton or whatever. 1451 00:51:20,233 --> 00:51:21,333 It's so cool. 1452 00:51:21,866 --> 00:51:23,633 And if they went that 1453 00:51:23,633 --> 00:51:25,033 route, then that makes sense. 1454 00:51:25,433 --> 00:51:26,900 But I wonder if they're thinking, 1455 00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:29,166 well, we don't have really any Linux DRM, 1456 00:51:29,233 --> 00:51:34,166 like free binaries on our system. 1457 00:51:34,166 --> 00:51:35,466 They might have the Windows. 1458 00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:39,266 So they have a ton of Linux games. 1459 00:51:39,266 --> 00:51:39,466 Okay. 1460 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:41,866 Like most of the Linux games 1461 00:51:41,866 --> 00:51:43,566 that they have are packaged. 1462 00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:45,566 Like they're like DOSBox 1463 00:51:45,566 --> 00:51:47,433 packaged with a native DOS, 1464 00:51:48,166 --> 00:51:49,433 like a native Linux DOSBox 1465 00:51:49,433 --> 00:51:51,800 or something like that, right? 1466 00:51:52,233 --> 00:51:53,266 There are some native 1467 00:51:53,266 --> 00:51:54,466 Linux binaries as well, 1468 00:51:54,533 --> 00:51:57,199 but frankly, native Linux binaries suck. 1469 00:51:57,433 --> 00:52:00,533 Like I think that the future 1470 00:52:00,533 --> 00:52:02,766 for Linux gaming is Proton. 1471 00:52:03,233 --> 00:52:03,866 Like through and through. 1472 00:52:03,866 --> 00:52:04,833 I'll be back in a second. 1473 00:52:05,466 --> 00:52:05,666 Sure. 1474 00:52:06,766 --> 00:52:06,966 Interesting. 1475 00:52:07,466 --> 00:52:09,433 So you'd say bundle, 1476 00:52:10,033 --> 00:52:11,233 ah, that's such a mess as 1477 00:52:11,233 --> 00:52:12,733 a game developer though. 1478 00:52:14,099 --> 00:52:16,033 I want like a universal system. 1479 00:52:16,033 --> 00:52:17,933 Dude, Proton is the universal system. 1480 00:52:21,133 --> 00:52:23,766 I truly believe that. 1481 00:52:23,766 --> 00:52:24,366 What? I'm sorry. 1482 00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:26,166 How would I build my game? 1483 00:52:27,466 --> 00:52:29,433 Without a Windows device to 1484 00:52:29,433 --> 00:52:30,833 then use the Proton system. 1485 00:52:30,833 --> 00:52:33,166 Cause if I build, 1486 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,000 let's say an Unreal project for Linux, 1487 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,866 which you can build for 1488 00:52:37,866 --> 00:52:40,166 Linux, that's native for Linux. 1489 00:52:41,766 --> 00:52:43,266 So what you do is you 1490 00:52:43,266 --> 00:52:44,699 build your game for Windows 1491 00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:46,366 inside of-- 1492 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,966 Yeah, but then I have 1493 00:52:46,966 --> 00:52:47,900 to have a Windows device. 1494 00:52:48,166 --> 00:52:49,433 You have to have a Windows device 1495 00:52:49,433 --> 00:52:51,533 to build a Windows version in Unreal? 1496 00:52:51,933 --> 00:52:52,166 Yes. 1497 00:52:53,866 --> 00:52:56,333 Any of the Unity, I 1498 00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:57,133 don't know about Godot, 1499 00:52:57,233 --> 00:52:58,433 but like Unity and Unreal, 1500 00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:00,833 like the biggest ones you have to have-- 1501 00:53:00,833 --> 00:53:02,533 In Godot, you literally just say, 1502 00:53:02,533 --> 00:53:03,433 I want a Windows 1503 00:53:03,433 --> 00:53:05,466 package, I want a macOS package, 1504 00:53:05,466 --> 00:53:06,366 I want a Linux, I 1505 00:53:06,366 --> 00:53:07,266 want an Android package. 1506 00:53:07,466 --> 00:53:08,966 And then you click build and 1507 00:53:08,966 --> 00:53:10,166 it builds them all for you, 1508 00:53:10,166 --> 00:53:11,433 no matter what platform you're on. 1509 00:53:11,433 --> 00:53:12,666 It builds the Windows properly. 1510 00:53:13,233 --> 00:53:15,300 Yeah, there's DLLs 1511 00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:16,633 and I don't think Unity. 1512 00:53:17,033 --> 00:53:20,800 And I think Godot has the beautiful 1513 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,233 nature of being newer. 1514 00:53:23,266 --> 00:53:24,033 And that's why I say, 1515 00:53:24,033 --> 00:53:24,933 I'm not sure about Godot 1516 00:53:25,066 --> 00:53:26,833 because I could see it being able to 1517 00:53:26,833 --> 00:53:27,866 download dependencies 1518 00:53:27,866 --> 00:53:28,566 or not have 1519 00:53:28,566 --> 00:53:31,533 dependencies based on some DLLs 1520 00:53:31,533 --> 00:53:33,066 and some older tech where 1521 00:53:33,066 --> 00:53:34,266 Unreal and I think Unity 1522 00:53:34,433 --> 00:53:37,266 have some older issues. 1523 00:53:37,966 --> 00:53:38,666 I mean, let's try it out. 1524 00:53:39,033 --> 00:53:40,366 I looked into it though, I'm 1525 00:53:40,366 --> 00:53:42,066 pretty sure in Unity or Unreal 1526 00:53:42,066 --> 00:53:42,766 you cannot-- 1527 00:53:42,766 --> 00:53:45,466 My understanding is that for Godot, 1528 00:53:46,033 --> 00:53:47,633 you download like this 1529 00:53:47,633 --> 00:53:50,433 empty pre-built package 1530 00:53:50,833 --> 00:53:52,366 for your game. 1531 00:53:52,933 --> 00:53:54,199 And then it just like 1532 00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:56,033 compiles like any of your scripts 1533 00:53:56,466 --> 00:53:59,466 and then drops in your assets 1534 00:53:59,466 --> 00:54:02,066 into that like empty archive 1535 00:54:02,233 --> 00:54:04,066 and then you can just distribute that. 1536 00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:09,833 It uses C-sharp, I believe, right? 1537 00:54:10,066 --> 00:54:10,866 Well, it uses-- 1538 00:54:10,866 --> 00:54:11,866 I think C-sharp-- 1539 00:54:11,866 --> 00:54:13,366 It uses GDScript and C-sharp. 1540 00:54:15,866 --> 00:54:16,633 Yeah, I think that's 1541 00:54:16,633 --> 00:54:17,733 based off of C-sharp. 1542 00:54:17,733 --> 00:54:18,500 So I think it's all like, 1543 00:54:18,933 --> 00:54:21,066 so C-sharp is like Java, 1544 00:54:21,233 --> 00:54:22,300 it's much better at, 1545 00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:24,000 sorry, we're nerding out here, 1546 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,066 but like it's much better 1547 00:54:25,066 --> 00:54:27,666 at packaging for anything. 1548 00:54:27,666 --> 00:54:28,233 It's not, it's 1549 00:54:28,233 --> 00:54:30,133 supposed to be OS agnostic. 1550 00:54:31,233 --> 00:54:35,599 Unity is also C-sharp, but I think it's, 1551 00:54:37,333 --> 00:54:39,733 you can do builds in the web 1552 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,666 and so you can build for 1553 00:54:41,666 --> 00:54:43,266 Windows through their web service. 1554 00:54:44,733 --> 00:54:47,466 Sorry, I'm just, yeah, I hate that I'm 1555 00:54:47,466 --> 00:54:49,233 dependent on Windows 1556 00:54:49,433 --> 00:54:50,933 to build my games and 1557 00:54:50,933 --> 00:54:51,833 then distribute them. 1558 00:54:52,333 --> 00:54:53,300 I'd rather build a 1559 00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:55,233 Linux version, but yeah, 1560 00:54:55,733 --> 00:54:56,833 I think you're correct though. 1561 00:54:56,833 --> 00:55:00,166 I think, ah, that's still so messy. 1562 00:55:00,533 --> 00:55:02,433 Like I can't build a Linux version 1563 00:55:02,433 --> 00:55:04,199 and not have it be better on Linux 1564 00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:05,933 than the Windows version is. 1565 00:55:06,133 --> 00:55:06,333 Well-- 1566 00:55:07,066 --> 00:55:07,900 Valve out to themselves. 1567 00:55:07,900 --> 00:55:08,466 Well, the thing is too, 1568 00:55:08,966 --> 00:55:11,599 like there are fewer development tools 1569 00:55:11,666 --> 00:55:13,466 for game developers on Linux. 1570 00:55:14,166 --> 00:55:15,266 That's, Valve is working 1571 00:55:15,266 --> 00:55:16,633 on resolving that issue, 1572 00:55:17,066 --> 00:55:18,633 but also because Linux 1573 00:55:18,633 --> 00:55:20,133 is such a small market, 1574 00:55:22,433 --> 00:55:25,199 game engines aren't like being pushed 1575 00:55:25,433 --> 00:55:26,666 or aren't feeling the pressure 1576 00:55:26,833 --> 00:55:29,733 to like optimize their games for Linux. 1577 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,366 Also like ABIs on 1578 00:55:32,366 --> 00:55:33,900 Linux break all the time. 1579 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:36,033 User space breaks all the time. 1580 00:55:36,533 --> 00:55:37,566 And so unless you're 1581 00:55:37,566 --> 00:55:38,866 building your Linux binaries 1582 00:55:39,733 --> 00:55:41,666 against like Valve's 1583 00:55:41,666 --> 00:55:42,933 Steam for Linux runtime, 1584 00:55:43,699 --> 00:55:45,000 your Linux version 1585 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,099 will break the next time 1586 00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:48,933 GNOME updates or the next 1587 00:55:48,933 --> 00:55:50,333 time the kernel updates. 1588 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,933 And it's like, it's such, dude, 1589 00:55:53,133 --> 00:55:54,166 like the reason that I 1590 00:55:54,166 --> 00:55:57,333 think native Linux games suck 1591 00:55:57,633 --> 00:56:00,000 is because ABIs are unstable 1592 00:56:00,333 --> 00:56:01,900 and like just 1593 00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:03,099 everything breaks all the time. 1594 00:56:03,933 --> 00:56:04,933 So I don't know. 1595 00:56:05,733 --> 00:56:06,333 It's not worth it. 1596 00:56:06,333 --> 00:56:07,933 Yeah, no, I can attest to that. 1597 00:56:08,733 --> 00:56:10,800 The best thing to do in my opinion 1598 00:56:10,966 --> 00:56:11,833 is to build against 1599 00:56:11,833 --> 00:56:13,766 Proton, test against Proton, 1600 00:56:13,766 --> 00:56:14,833 just build one 1601 00:56:14,833 --> 00:56:17,133 freaking version of your game 1602 00:56:17,366 --> 00:56:18,733 and then you can run it anywhere. 1603 00:56:20,633 --> 00:56:23,500 Do you think Valve 1604 00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:25,966 should come out with a way 1605 00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:28,233 to just build for its platform period, 1606 00:56:28,233 --> 00:56:29,133 which I guess could be 1607 00:56:29,133 --> 00:56:30,500 under the hood windows, 1608 00:56:30,933 --> 00:56:32,000 but like in the XE, but 1609 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,099 at the end of the day, 1610 00:56:35,233 --> 00:56:36,099 don't call it windows, 1611 00:56:36,099 --> 00:56:37,466 we just call it like, 1612 00:56:37,933 --> 00:56:39,699 I don't know, Proton Universal or 1613 00:56:39,699 --> 00:56:40,233 something like that. 1614 00:56:40,266 --> 00:56:42,400 That's kind of what they've done, 1615 00:56:43,133 --> 00:56:44,666 but without calling it that. 1616 00:56:44,666 --> 00:56:45,666 I just look into it more. 1617 00:56:46,333 --> 00:56:47,133 I mean, I- 1618 00:56:47,433 --> 00:56:48,800 They need to marketing wise, 1619 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,466 you got to market it though. 1620 00:56:50,466 --> 00:56:51,233 That's how you sell things. 1621 00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:52,933 At one point, Valve was 1622 00:56:52,933 --> 00:56:55,466 working on some kind of package. 1623 00:56:55,866 --> 00:56:57,333 Like it was like Flatpak. 1624 00:56:58,266 --> 00:56:58,466 Package manager. 1625 00:56:59,066 --> 00:57:02,266 And I don't know where that stands 1626 00:57:02,533 --> 00:57:04,699 because Valve kind of does things, 1627 00:57:04,699 --> 00:57:05,866 whatever, willy-nilly, 1628 00:57:05,866 --> 00:57:08,133 but at one point they were 1629 00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:09,266 working on something like that 1630 00:57:09,466 --> 00:57:10,033 and I would be interested 1631 00:57:10,033 --> 00:57:11,666 to see where that would go. 1632 00:57:12,166 --> 00:57:14,000 But I don't know. 1633 00:57:14,366 --> 00:57:15,966 I mean, for my 1634 00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:17,066 software I built in the past, 1635 00:57:17,066 --> 00:57:19,566 I've looked into doing with managers, 1636 00:57:19,866 --> 00:57:21,266 like application managers 1637 00:57:21,266 --> 00:57:22,233 where it wraps it all together 1638 00:57:22,233 --> 00:57:23,966 and it has all the 1639 00:57:23,966 --> 00:57:26,433 instructions built into the, 1640 00:57:28,233 --> 00:57:29,166 we don't need to get into all that, 1641 00:57:29,166 --> 00:57:31,533 but like I think that is 1642 00:57:31,533 --> 00:57:32,733 probably one of the biggest things 1643 00:57:32,733 --> 00:57:33,633 that Valve could probably figure. 1644 00:57:33,633 --> 00:57:35,166 Like Proton's running smoothly, 1645 00:57:35,166 --> 00:57:36,699 they have a whole team always 1646 00:57:36,699 --> 00:57:38,199 updating it and improving it. 1647 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,566 They need the marketing on now, 1648 00:57:41,866 --> 00:57:43,033 hey game developers, this 1649 00:57:43,033 --> 00:57:43,833 is how we need to start, 1650 00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:46,466 I think, packaging it potentially. 1651 00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:48,533 Yeah, and I mean, if they-- 1652 00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:49,333 And fix it and make it so 1653 00:57:49,333 --> 00:57:51,633 that runs anywhere Unix runs. 1654 00:57:52,166 --> 00:57:53,933 I mean, that would be ideal. 1655 00:57:54,133 --> 00:57:54,666 And if they could 1656 00:57:54,666 --> 00:57:57,933 approach publishers and whatever 1657 00:57:57,933 --> 00:57:59,033 and be like, this is 1658 00:57:59,033 --> 00:57:59,866 kind of the standard, 1659 00:58:00,733 --> 00:58:02,033 I think that would go a long way 1660 00:58:02,699 --> 00:58:05,933 to getting new games published on Steam. 1661 00:58:06,366 --> 00:58:07,466 And speaking of new games, 1662 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,433 that was a terrible 1663 00:58:09,433 --> 00:58:11,333 transition, terrible segue. 1664 00:58:11,699 --> 00:58:13,266 I loved it. 1665 00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:16,033 What's going on with 1666 00:58:16,033 --> 00:58:17,366 this new game plus showcase 1667 00:58:17,766 --> 00:58:20,099 will take place on January 8th? 1668 00:58:20,666 --> 00:58:23,133 It's a new game showcase, 1669 00:58:24,066 --> 00:58:25,233 but they call it new game plus 1670 00:58:25,366 --> 00:58:27,533 because it's not just the new games, 1671 00:58:28,066 --> 00:58:29,066 it's also other stuff 1672 00:58:29,066 --> 00:58:30,066 like developer interviews 1673 00:58:30,066 --> 00:58:31,433 and all that cool stuff. 1674 00:58:32,066 --> 00:58:32,566 I don't need. 1675 00:58:33,266 --> 00:58:34,933 So it's 45 games, they 1676 00:58:34,933 --> 00:58:36,366 claim it's creator-led, 1677 00:58:36,433 --> 00:58:38,766 but how do we know this? 1678 00:58:40,366 --> 00:58:41,333 What does creator-led even 1679 00:58:41,333 --> 00:58:42,633 mean in this case, to be honest? 1680 00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:47,133 It's Ubisoft and 1681 00:58:47,133 --> 00:58:48,766 Activision, all their lead-- 1682 00:58:49,633 --> 00:58:50,599 Okay, okay. 1683 00:58:51,099 --> 00:58:51,366 Creators. 1684 00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:56,533 Creator-led with suspicious eyes. 1685 00:58:58,533 --> 00:59:00,000 Yeah, which creator's leading though? 1686 00:59:01,099 --> 00:59:01,300 Yeah. 1687 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,466 So it says indie games 1688 00:59:04,466 --> 00:59:06,066 and big AAA productions. 1689 00:59:08,533 --> 00:59:09,166 It says it's 1690 00:59:09,166 --> 00:59:11,166 self-funded too, no sponsors. 1691 00:59:12,300 --> 00:59:13,833 Maybe it's, oh, no ads. 1692 00:59:15,066 --> 00:59:15,766 Self-funded? 1693 00:59:16,066 --> 00:59:17,066 Dude, you know how expensive 1694 00:59:17,066 --> 00:59:18,133 doing these types of things are 1695 00:59:18,133 --> 00:59:18,900 depending on what it is? 1696 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:19,433 I don't know, man. 1697 00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:21,633 I'm sharing that. 1698 00:59:22,066 --> 00:59:23,366 There isn't gaming world media. 1699 00:59:23,566 --> 00:59:25,533 I've never heard of gaming world media. 1700 00:59:27,266 --> 00:59:28,166 Let's do some research. 1701 00:59:32,333 --> 00:59:33,400 Gaming world media, 1702 00:59:34,233 --> 00:59:35,366 according to their website, 1703 00:59:35,933 --> 00:59:38,533 go to gamingworldmedia.com. 1704 00:59:41,766 --> 00:59:42,566 Oh my gosh, you got my-- 1705 00:59:42,566 --> 00:59:43,566 Oh, there's a video that 1706 00:59:43,566 --> 00:59:44,666 auto-plays on the website. 1707 00:59:44,666 --> 00:59:45,000 That's stupid. 1708 00:59:47,833 --> 00:59:50,366 What is this? 1709 00:59:50,933 --> 00:59:52,866 Gamingworldmedia.com. 1710 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,066 Bunch of broken images. 1711 00:59:55,699 --> 00:59:56,766 Have you seen broken images? 1712 00:59:57,033 --> 00:59:58,833 I see those broken images too, yes. 1713 00:59:59,933 --> 01:00:00,533 What is going on? 1714 01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:06,033 It's the home outside of the game. 1715 01:00:06,866 --> 01:00:07,066 Interesting. 1716 01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:08,199 Oh, so they own a bunch of 1717 01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:10,333 things like rivals assembled, 1718 01:00:10,333 --> 01:00:10,833 everything Marvel 1719 01:00:10,833 --> 01:00:12,500 Rivals, or Rivals Esports, 1720 01:00:13,033 --> 01:00:13,866 Marvel Rivals Esports 1721 01:00:13,866 --> 01:00:15,266 News, or Deadlock Intel, 1722 01:00:15,866 --> 01:00:17,099 number one source of all things deadlock, 1723 01:00:17,533 --> 01:00:19,566 or Marathon Game News, Marathon Intel. 1724 01:00:20,066 --> 01:00:21,866 Yeah, okay, okay, I 1725 01:00:21,866 --> 01:00:22,766 see what's going on here. 1726 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,666 From Andy's to the world's largest. 1727 01:00:24,699 --> 01:00:26,300 There's also content 1728 01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:27,566 creators like Jake Sucky. 1729 01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:31,133 Is that his name? 1730 01:00:31,433 --> 01:00:32,699 That's his alias. 1731 01:00:33,066 --> 01:00:34,066 It's not Jake Sucky. 1732 01:00:35,866 --> 01:00:38,033 I spelled like Sucky, so it must be. 1733 01:00:38,933 --> 01:00:40,133 It's on him, man, that's what I do. 1734 01:00:40,166 --> 01:00:41,033 I thought it was Jake Sucky. 1735 01:00:42,733 --> 01:00:43,533 (laughing) 1736 01:00:44,233 --> 01:00:44,733 Oh my God. 1737 01:00:44,733 --> 01:00:46,433 But if that is his name, then that sucks. 1738 01:00:47,466 --> 01:00:47,666 Yeah. 1739 01:00:49,166 --> 01:00:49,733 Pun intended. 1740 01:00:49,766 --> 01:00:50,533 I think it's Jake Sucky. 1741 01:00:52,433 --> 01:00:52,633 Interesting. 1742 01:00:53,699 --> 01:00:56,166 So, creator, I guess 1743 01:00:56,166 --> 01:00:58,400 there's some measure of truth 1744 01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,966 to creator-led, 1745 01:01:00,266 --> 01:01:00,833 because they're probably 1746 01:01:00,833 --> 01:01:03,599 having their roster of creators 1747 01:01:03,966 --> 01:01:05,300 hosting it, I would imagine. 1748 01:01:06,099 --> 01:01:06,866 But that's speculation 1749 01:01:06,866 --> 01:01:07,833 on my part, I don't know. 1750 01:01:08,133 --> 01:01:09,066 And they also have a link 1751 01:01:09,066 --> 01:01:11,266 to their YouTube channel 1752 01:01:11,266 --> 01:01:12,300 on their website, so 1753 01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:14,133 New Game Plus Showcase 1754 01:01:14,966 --> 01:01:16,766 has 1,200 subscribers. 1755 01:01:16,766 --> 01:01:17,199 Wow, look at that, 1756 01:01:17,199 --> 01:01:18,433 they've got more subscribers 1757 01:01:18,733 --> 01:01:20,333 than we do, and they don't even have 1758 01:01:20,333 --> 01:01:21,233 anything up right now. 1759 01:01:21,633 --> 01:01:24,266 But any one of our 1760 01:01:24,266 --> 01:01:25,733 personal YouTube channels 1761 01:01:25,733 --> 01:01:27,266 has more than theirs, so. 1762 01:01:27,566 --> 01:01:28,466 At least until the showcase, 1763 01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:30,166 we don't know what they'll showcase. 1764 01:01:31,166 --> 01:01:32,166 Yeah, we'll see. 1765 01:01:32,366 --> 01:01:33,266 It's problematic that 1766 01:01:33,266 --> 01:01:35,599 they have X as their primary 1767 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:36,833 (laughing) 1768 01:01:37,233 --> 01:01:38,466 social media listed here. 1769 01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:40,966 Should've put their website first. 1770 01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:42,099 Yeah. 1771 01:01:43,366 --> 01:01:45,833 Dude, any company that's 1772 01:01:45,833 --> 01:01:46,766 gonna be promoting something 1773 01:01:46,766 --> 01:01:48,366 like this should be promoting their 1774 01:01:48,366 --> 01:01:49,833 website before any-- 1775 01:01:49,866 --> 01:01:51,166 So it looks like they have sponsors 1776 01:01:51,333 --> 01:01:53,500 on the Gaming World Media website. 1777 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,666 So if you go back to that 1778 01:01:56,666 --> 01:01:57,766 website and scroll down, 1779 01:01:57,833 --> 01:01:58,400 you'll see they're 1780 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,666 sponsored by Lexus, iBuyPower, 1781 01:02:02,233 --> 01:02:04,599 AT&T, Epic Gate, 1782 01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:06,699 scroll up, scroll back up. 1783 01:02:07,133 --> 01:02:09,833 That's not, those aren't sponsors. 1784 01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:10,366 I don't know. 1785 01:02:10,366 --> 01:02:10,833 No, they don't. 1786 01:02:10,866 --> 01:02:12,333 They're just from indies to the world. 1787 01:02:12,933 --> 01:02:14,433 I'm just saying, that 1788 01:02:14,433 --> 01:02:15,533 doesn't mean it's sponsored. 1789 01:02:16,466 --> 01:02:17,633 It just, it means that 1790 01:02:17,633 --> 01:02:18,766 they want brand recognition, 1791 01:02:19,133 --> 01:02:19,866 and so they'll, like 1792 01:02:19,866 --> 01:02:20,766 anyone that they work with, 1793 01:02:20,766 --> 01:02:21,699 they'll throw it there. 1794 01:02:21,699 --> 01:02:23,033 It could be sponsors, but-- 1795 01:02:23,033 --> 01:02:23,566 This could be sponsors 1796 01:02:23,566 --> 01:02:25,533 that they have brought 1797 01:02:25,699 --> 01:02:27,099 to their roster. 1798 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,266 Yeah, like these are 1799 01:02:29,266 --> 01:02:30,366 companies that they've worked with 1800 01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:30,800 before. 1801 01:02:32,033 --> 01:02:32,266 I see. 1802 01:02:33,466 --> 01:02:35,766 I just, do we need another showcase? 1803 01:02:36,233 --> 01:02:36,633 I don't know. 1804 01:02:36,633 --> 01:02:37,566 Yeah, I don't think we 1805 01:02:37,566 --> 01:02:39,599 need one, but you know. 1806 01:02:40,133 --> 01:02:40,566 If there's-- 1807 01:02:40,699 --> 01:02:42,900 So, there are-- 1808 01:02:43,266 --> 01:02:44,166 No, no, like they can 1809 01:02:44,166 --> 01:02:45,066 do it if they want to. 1810 01:02:45,066 --> 01:02:46,199 I'm just saying, like I'm 1811 01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:47,433 not trying to stop anyone. 1812 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,266 I'm just, I'm already 1813 01:02:49,266 --> 01:02:51,099 fatigued from all the showcases 1814 01:02:51,099 --> 01:02:54,133 we do with Steam, with the other-- 1815 01:02:54,133 --> 01:02:55,066 More than lifetimes. 1816 01:02:55,433 --> 01:02:55,966 I'm just exhausted. 1817 01:02:56,933 --> 01:02:57,133 No. 1818 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,366 Not at all. 1819 01:03:00,533 --> 01:03:01,866 I'll probably be gone, is it in January? 1820 01:03:02,133 --> 01:03:02,733 It's like in a few days. 1821 01:03:03,433 --> 01:03:05,366 Yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting to see 1822 01:03:05,366 --> 01:03:07,033 what comes out of this, but I'm not, 1823 01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:08,033 I'm not gonna watch live. 1824 01:03:08,066 --> 01:03:08,733 Yeah, I agree. 1825 01:03:08,833 --> 01:03:09,900 I don't give a shit. 1826 01:03:10,466 --> 01:03:11,800 Like, I mean, also like 1827 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:12,733 a lot of my exhaustion 1828 01:03:13,366 --> 01:03:14,233 from this stuff comes 1829 01:03:14,233 --> 01:03:16,666 from like the game awards 1830 01:03:17,433 --> 01:03:19,566 being so heavily like, 1831 01:03:19,933 --> 01:03:22,400 just add, add, add, add, add. 1832 01:03:24,366 --> 01:03:24,966 I mean, that's what, 1833 01:03:26,066 --> 01:03:27,366 pretty much what it's for. 1834 01:03:27,633 --> 01:03:28,533 Like a showcase is 1835 01:03:28,533 --> 01:03:29,733 like a bunch of marketing. 1836 01:03:29,733 --> 01:03:29,933 Right. 1837 01:03:30,099 --> 01:03:31,333 When you say add, do you mean like, 1838 01:03:31,333 --> 01:03:32,633 "Pissed by new games," or 1839 01:03:32,633 --> 01:03:34,266 do you mean ads as in like, 1840 01:03:34,266 --> 01:03:35,000 "Add ads." 1841 01:03:35,566 --> 01:03:37,566 Well, like, okay, so what I mean is like, 1842 01:03:37,566 --> 01:03:38,333 they're saying here, 1843 01:03:39,166 --> 01:03:40,433 genuine excitement in Cars 8, 1844 01:03:40,433 --> 01:03:41,933 no paid placements, right? 1845 01:03:42,366 --> 01:03:45,266 To me, paid placements are every trailer 1846 01:03:45,266 --> 01:03:46,300 that was in the game, 1847 01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:47,366 like almost every trailer 1848 01:03:47,366 --> 01:03:48,333 that was in the game awards. 1849 01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:49,966 I feel like there were one or two games 1850 01:03:49,966 --> 01:03:51,166 that Jeff was like just excited to show, 1851 01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:54,166 and then everything else was just paid. 1852 01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:56,366 I thought, yeah. 1853 01:03:56,933 --> 01:03:57,233 Yeah. 1854 01:03:57,333 --> 01:03:58,433 It's hard though, 1855 01:03:58,433 --> 01:03:59,933 because that's how you pay 1856 01:03:59,933 --> 01:04:01,033 for the event, those 1857 01:04:01,033 --> 01:04:02,099 events are really expensive. 1858 01:04:02,133 --> 01:04:03,433 Yeah, but like if this is, 1859 01:04:03,466 --> 01:04:05,599 And Miss Piggy, you know she's expensive. 1860 01:04:05,866 --> 01:04:07,266 Oh yeah, of course, that's Disney money. 1861 01:04:07,666 --> 01:04:08,833 But like, if this is just 1862 01:04:08,833 --> 01:04:11,099 being put on as like a livestream 1863 01:04:11,099 --> 01:04:13,166 in a room with some of their creators, 1864 01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:15,533 that's not that expensive, you know? 1865 01:04:15,966 --> 01:04:18,333 Like, so this, to me, 1866 01:04:18,333 --> 01:04:19,333 like this is exciting, right? 1867 01:04:19,366 --> 01:04:22,099 Like, if these are just indie games 1868 01:04:22,099 --> 01:04:24,466 that are on these creators' radars, I 1869 01:04:24,466 --> 01:04:25,366 could get into that. 1870 01:04:25,866 --> 01:04:28,633 But I'm so tired of like, 1871 01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:31,266 the showcase after showcase, 1872 01:04:31,699 --> 01:04:33,900 I'm like, just let me know, give me a 1873 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:34,900 synopsis, I don't care. 1874 01:04:35,466 --> 01:04:37,833 They're just trying to break 1875 01:04:37,966 --> 01:04:38,699 Jeff Keighley's 1876 01:04:38,699 --> 01:04:40,433 monopoly on game showcases. 1877 01:04:40,933 --> 01:04:42,066 Yeah, he's got two of 1878 01:04:42,066 --> 01:04:42,833 them, for fuck's sake. 1879 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,199 Two of the biggest ones. 1880 01:04:44,233 --> 01:04:44,833 He's got two. 1881 01:04:45,933 --> 01:04:48,699 I think the summer one's a little better. 1882 01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:49,566 I agree. 1883 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:50,966 I think you get a lot out of it. 1884 01:04:50,966 --> 01:04:51,733 The summer one is 1885 01:04:51,733 --> 01:04:53,266 like, just kind of chill. 1886 01:04:54,033 --> 01:04:55,166 Yeah, it's just the games. 1887 01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:57,333 It's chill, and there's, yeah, 1888 01:04:57,333 --> 01:04:58,366 and I don't think it's at all, 1889 01:04:58,666 --> 01:04:59,266 there might be some 1890 01:04:59,266 --> 01:05:02,166 placed, like paid placements, 1891 01:05:02,166 --> 01:05:03,166 but they still probably 1892 01:05:03,166 --> 01:05:03,866 have a lot that's not. 1893 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:04,833 Plus we don't have to 1894 01:05:04,833 --> 01:05:06,233 deal with award stuff. 1895 01:05:08,133 --> 01:05:09,266 Yeah, I can handle the 1896 01:05:09,266 --> 01:05:10,366 game awards once a year. 1897 01:05:10,366 --> 01:05:11,133 I'll be honest, I can 1898 01:05:11,133 --> 01:05:12,166 handle that, I'm fine with it. 1899 01:05:12,699 --> 01:05:14,233 Anything else beyond 1900 01:05:14,233 --> 01:05:16,033 that gets a little annoying. 1901 01:05:16,366 --> 01:05:17,699 The summer one's not bad, 1902 01:05:17,699 --> 01:05:18,533 this one being right 1903 01:05:18,533 --> 01:05:20,066 after the game awards though, 1904 01:05:20,066 --> 01:05:21,300 I'm like, I'm already fatigued. 1905 01:05:21,333 --> 01:05:21,766 So how much do you 1906 01:05:21,766 --> 01:05:22,666 think they'll spend on this? 1907 01:05:25,199 --> 01:05:26,166 I don't know. 1908 01:05:26,366 --> 01:05:27,133 A billion, huh? 1909 01:05:27,566 --> 01:05:28,066 That's interesting. 1910 01:05:28,933 --> 01:05:29,300 A million. 1911 01:05:30,133 --> 01:05:31,366 I don't think it's billion. 1912 01:05:32,233 --> 01:05:33,099 Well, what about a billion? 1913 01:05:33,433 --> 01:05:34,533 Because I know of one 1914 01:05:34,533 --> 01:05:36,433 game that's approaching 1915 01:05:36,699 --> 01:05:37,666 being a billion dollars. 1916 01:05:38,066 --> 01:05:40,433 That is true, Star Citizen. 1917 01:05:42,033 --> 01:05:45,766 I've been talking about 1918 01:05:45,766 --> 01:05:47,333 this game for over 10 years 1919 01:05:47,333 --> 01:05:49,699 and it's still not even out, technically. 1920 01:05:50,733 --> 01:05:52,333 Well, yes. 1921 01:05:54,333 --> 01:05:56,233 They could, from a marketing standpoint, 1922 01:05:56,966 --> 01:05:58,366 they should have definitely rephrased 1923 01:05:58,366 --> 01:05:59,300 how they're working on this. 1924 01:05:59,300 --> 01:05:59,833 They were like, yeah, no, 1925 01:05:59,833 --> 01:06:00,733 this is an early access. 1926 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,933 It's never gonna be fully done, 1927 01:06:05,266 --> 01:06:06,266 and that's how I would have-- 1928 01:06:06,333 --> 01:06:07,533 I mean, truth be told, 1929 01:06:08,233 --> 01:06:09,166 they call it an alpha, 1930 01:06:09,533 --> 01:06:09,966 but it could be more stable. 1931 01:06:10,233 --> 01:06:10,966 But it could be more 1932 01:06:10,966 --> 01:06:12,066 stable than some of the games 1933 01:06:12,066 --> 01:06:14,033 that have come at 1.0, right? 1934 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:15,866 Some of the games we've 1935 01:06:15,866 --> 01:06:16,566 seen that come out with 1.0. 1936 01:06:16,833 --> 01:06:19,300 I mean, whether it's alpha, beta, 1937 01:06:19,566 --> 01:06:20,466 if people buy it and they 1938 01:06:20,466 --> 01:06:22,666 like it, then why not, right? 1939 01:06:25,099 --> 01:06:27,633 Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, 1940 01:06:27,633 --> 01:06:30,800 I don't, Star Citizen made some promises, 1941 01:06:31,066 --> 01:06:32,000 and that's the problems that 1942 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,333 they made promises early on, 1943 01:06:33,833 --> 01:06:34,633 that they didn't fulfill. 1944 01:06:35,333 --> 01:06:36,633 And then they went after cash cows 1945 01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:38,599 and they've kind of just been chasing 1946 01:06:38,833 --> 01:06:40,166 this weird money thing. 1947 01:06:40,166 --> 01:06:41,800 And so that's, I think, the 1948 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,166 problem with Star Citizen. 1949 01:06:43,366 --> 01:06:44,633 I was interested in the beginning, 1950 01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:46,333 and then it looked like 1951 01:06:46,333 --> 01:06:49,166 they were chasing money 1952 01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:50,599 a little too 1953 01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:52,333 aggressively to develop their games. 1954 01:06:52,599 --> 01:06:54,500 It's a crazy situation, too, 1955 01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:58,166 because Star Citizen, I mean, 1956 01:06:58,933 --> 01:07:01,300 I'm vaguely interested in Star Citizen. 1957 01:07:01,533 --> 01:07:02,633 It looks like a pretty cool game. 1958 01:07:02,633 --> 01:07:03,333 I've seen some gameplay. 1959 01:07:05,366 --> 01:07:07,666 It's like part FTL, 1960 01:07:07,933 --> 01:07:09,866 part on foot ground combat, 1961 01:07:10,433 --> 01:07:11,566 part like space simulator. 1962 01:07:12,233 --> 01:07:12,966 It looks pretty cool. 1963 01:07:13,466 --> 01:07:15,233 Supposedly, the single player campaign 1964 01:07:15,233 --> 01:07:16,733 is supposed to be coming 1965 01:07:16,733 --> 01:07:18,500 out this year, Squadron 42. 1966 01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:23,766 Yeah, it's got big stars, too, 1967 01:07:24,033 --> 01:07:26,500 because Chris Roberts likes working 1968 01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:27,233 with big Hollywood 1969 01:07:27,233 --> 01:07:30,333 actors, like Mark Hamill, 1970 01:07:31,933 --> 01:07:32,666 and Henry Cavill. 1971 01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:33,333 Yep. 1972 01:07:35,133 --> 01:07:36,400 Ah, shit, speaking of Henry Cavill, 1973 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,000 I wonder what's going on 1974 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,000 with that Warhammer series. 1975 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,466 I think it's been worked on. 1976 01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:43,800 I don't know if there's anything to 1977 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:44,866 update on it, though. 1978 01:07:45,033 --> 01:07:45,733 Surely it couldn't take 1979 01:07:45,733 --> 01:07:46,766 that long to make a war. 1980 01:07:46,766 --> 01:07:47,866 Well, actually, no, I 1981 01:07:47,866 --> 01:07:48,599 shouldn't say anything. 1982 01:07:52,233 --> 01:07:53,199 In today's world, it 1983 01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:54,733 can take two, three years 1984 01:07:54,733 --> 01:07:55,633 to get a season out. 1985 01:07:55,666 --> 01:07:57,366 Yeah, look at the Stranger Kids kids. 1986 01:07:58,199 --> 01:07:59,566 They fucking, they're 1987 01:07:59,566 --> 01:08:01,900 like whole ass adults. 1988 01:08:03,266 --> 01:08:05,500 Have families, some of them have kids. 1989 01:08:07,133 --> 01:08:09,366 But what are you 1990 01:08:09,366 --> 01:08:10,166 gonna do up against that? 1991 01:08:10,566 --> 01:08:12,033 Your other option is AI them. 1992 01:08:12,466 --> 01:08:15,366 The other option is lower budgets 1993 01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:18,766 and faster turnarounds. 1994 01:08:19,666 --> 01:08:19,866 Or-- 1995 01:08:20,466 --> 01:08:21,033 Yeah, you can do that. 1996 01:08:21,699 --> 01:08:23,733 I think it's just up to the creatives. 1997 01:08:23,733 --> 01:08:24,899 If they want to do 1998 01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:27,433 more expensive releases 1999 01:08:27,433 --> 01:08:28,466 every few years, it's fine. 2000 01:08:28,466 --> 01:08:29,033 Or animate them. 2001 01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:29,500 Yes. 2002 01:08:30,633 --> 01:08:33,300 Yeah, the real stranger things. 2003 01:08:35,166 --> 01:08:36,533 Truly the strangest thing. 2004 01:08:36,733 --> 01:08:36,933 Even-- 2005 01:08:37,899 --> 01:08:38,066 Yeah? 2006 01:08:38,466 --> 01:08:38,766 Yeah. 2007 01:08:40,133 --> 01:08:43,800 I mean, but you can't convert from live 2008 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,966 action to animate it 2009 01:08:45,566 --> 01:08:46,033 to finish a story. 2010 01:08:46,033 --> 01:08:47,266 That is true, that is true. 2011 01:08:47,266 --> 01:08:47,899 People would get upset. 2012 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,566 If you want to do spin-offs, that's fine. 2013 01:08:51,633 --> 01:08:54,533 But yeah, no, I'm okay 2014 01:08:54,533 --> 01:08:55,366 with the way it's going. 2015 01:08:55,366 --> 01:08:56,066 It's just what it is. 2016 01:08:56,466 --> 01:08:57,633 If I'm gonna get better quality, 2017 01:08:58,500 --> 01:08:59,399 Fallout, I think took 2018 01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:00,600 what, two years to come out 2019 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,233 with another season? 2020 01:09:01,433 --> 01:09:02,366 And I'm fine with that. 2021 01:09:02,366 --> 01:09:03,733 If it's good, I'm fine. 2022 01:09:05,433 --> 01:09:06,166 Instead of them just 2023 01:09:06,166 --> 01:09:08,366 milking it hard every season. 2024 01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:10,600 Well, the question is, 2025 01:09:11,566 --> 01:09:12,833 with inflated budgets 2026 01:09:12,833 --> 01:09:15,100 and everything in the TV series, 2027 01:09:17,266 --> 01:09:18,199 what's going on with 2028 01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:19,766 the, how much is too much? 2029 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,333 I'm trying to segue too hard. 2030 01:09:23,333 --> 01:09:23,533 Sorry. 2031 01:09:24,866 --> 01:09:25,833 How much is too much? 2032 01:09:26,533 --> 01:09:27,033 Well, it depends. 2033 01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:28,266 How much can you afford? 2034 01:09:29,833 --> 01:09:31,533 Yeah, that's the problem. 2035 01:09:33,933 --> 01:09:35,533 I can't afford anything in 2026. 2036 01:09:35,633 --> 01:09:36,899 Man, this is the first generation 2037 01:09:37,133 --> 01:09:38,133 where we can't have shit. 2038 01:09:41,366 --> 01:09:41,833 It's okay. 2039 01:09:42,266 --> 01:09:43,266 All how, I have my Steam Deck. 2040 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:44,633 I will spend the money I 2041 01:09:44,633 --> 01:09:45,399 would have spent on this, 2042 01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:45,866 on like, you know. 2043 01:09:46,166 --> 01:09:46,566 The Steam Chain? 2044 01:09:47,266 --> 01:09:48,366 A nice summer vacation, 2045 01:09:48,633 --> 01:09:49,966 because it'll be cheaper 2046 01:09:49,966 --> 01:09:51,166 to go on vacation with 2047 01:09:51,166 --> 01:09:52,066 my Steam Deck than it is. 2048 01:09:52,066 --> 01:09:52,666 Dude, will it be though? 2049 01:09:53,433 --> 01:09:54,133 Will it be though? 2050 01:09:56,466 --> 01:09:57,033 We will see. 2051 01:09:57,500 --> 01:09:58,333 The computers I buy are 2052 01:09:58,333 --> 01:09:59,933 like three or $4,000, so yes. 2053 01:09:59,966 --> 01:10:01,800 All right, but like, will it be though? 2054 01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:04,233 Yes. 2055 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,699 It'll be cheaper to go on 2056 01:10:07,699 --> 01:10:08,533 vacation with your Steam Deck 2057 01:10:08,533 --> 01:10:09,566 than it is to buy a computer. 2058 01:10:10,166 --> 01:10:11,366 I mean, so what's going on here? 2059 01:10:11,533 --> 01:10:12,833 So, ASUS announces price 2060 01:10:12,833 --> 01:10:14,933 hikes starting January 5th, 2061 01:10:14,933 --> 01:10:17,433 which could raise the RG Ally prices. 2062 01:10:18,633 --> 01:10:21,866 This is a report from Steam Deck HQ. 2063 01:10:22,399 --> 01:10:23,166 Shout out to Noah. 2064 01:10:23,366 --> 01:10:25,633 He's been on our podcast a few times. 2065 01:10:26,266 --> 01:10:26,766 What's up, Noah? 2066 01:10:28,333 --> 01:10:28,766 Yeah, so-- 2067 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,266 But never when Garner's been around. 2068 01:10:30,566 --> 01:10:30,766 I just-- 2069 01:10:31,366 --> 01:10:33,433 Yeah, I've never seen myself and Noah 2070 01:10:33,433 --> 01:10:35,133 in the same place at the same time. 2071 01:10:35,166 --> 01:10:36,566 Damn, it's almost like 2072 01:10:36,566 --> 01:10:37,433 they're the same person. 2073 01:10:41,633 --> 01:10:43,366 So what's going on here? 2074 01:10:43,633 --> 01:10:45,933 So ASUS is raising their prices? 2075 01:10:47,333 --> 01:10:50,100 They say strategic price adjustments. 2076 01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:52,300 So it sounds like 2077 01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:53,133 they're gonna raise prices, 2078 01:10:53,133 --> 01:10:54,033 otherwise they would have said, 2079 01:10:54,266 --> 01:10:55,100 "Oh, we're lowering our prices." 2080 01:10:56,899 --> 01:10:58,866 All these companies are 2081 01:10:58,866 --> 01:10:59,966 gonna be hiring their prices. 2082 01:11:01,633 --> 01:11:04,366 It's the RAM, is a big part of the price. 2083 01:11:04,366 --> 01:11:06,366 Yeah, so if you scroll down, 2084 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:07,966 there's an English translation. 2085 01:11:11,166 --> 01:11:13,066 And some tariffs are kicking in finally 2086 01:11:13,066 --> 01:11:16,566 in the sense of they had some leeway 2087 01:11:16,766 --> 01:11:18,466 and some tariffs are 2088 01:11:18,466 --> 01:11:19,500 gonna be hitting this too. 2089 01:11:19,533 --> 01:11:20,000 That sucks. 2090 01:11:21,899 --> 01:11:22,899 Oh my God, in the new 2091 01:11:22,899 --> 01:11:24,533 era of AI-driven computing, 2092 01:11:24,633 --> 01:11:26,500 companies face both new opportunities 2093 01:11:26,733 --> 01:11:27,933 and new challenges in 2094 01:11:27,933 --> 01:11:28,966 operational planning. 2095 01:11:29,300 --> 01:11:31,233 ASUS values our partnership with you 2096 01:11:31,233 --> 01:11:32,166 and remains committed 2097 01:11:32,166 --> 01:11:33,233 to providing up-to-date 2098 01:11:33,233 --> 01:11:35,133 and reliable IT products and services, 2099 01:11:35,699 --> 01:11:37,500 growing together with your team and 2100 01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:38,866 creating shared value. 2101 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,366 Just talking about reliable IT products, 2102 01:11:43,233 --> 01:11:46,500 sounds like not ROG, like not gaming. 2103 01:11:49,666 --> 01:11:49,866 Yeah. 2104 01:11:51,433 --> 01:11:52,766 But ASUS is better to 2105 01:11:52,766 --> 01:11:55,066 work with than the direct, 2106 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,966 like GPD and not to throw 2107 01:11:59,966 --> 01:12:00,933 them under the bus fully, 2108 01:12:00,933 --> 01:12:04,166 but like you're gonna have a better time 2109 01:12:04,433 --> 01:12:05,533 having support from ASUS 2110 01:12:05,733 --> 01:12:07,766 than you are from some of the 2111 01:12:07,766 --> 01:12:09,433 more direct Chinese companies. 2112 01:12:12,133 --> 01:12:12,333 Absolutely. 2113 01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:14,533 So of course, they 2114 01:12:14,533 --> 01:12:16,166 don't mention what products 2115 01:12:16,166 --> 01:12:17,466 are being hyped up in price, 2116 01:12:18,866 --> 01:12:21,266 but I mean, we can 2117 01:12:21,266 --> 01:12:23,833 assume that full computers, 2118 01:12:24,433 --> 01:12:25,433 like the RG Ally or 2119 01:12:25,433 --> 01:12:26,633 whatever pre-buds they have, 2120 01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:28,166 those are gonna go up in price. 2121 01:12:30,566 --> 01:12:31,666 Their graphics cards 2122 01:12:31,666 --> 01:12:32,833 are gonna go up in price. 2123 01:12:33,533 --> 01:12:36,933 Anything with RAM or NAND is going up. 2124 01:12:37,766 --> 01:12:38,433 Yeah, I mean. 2125 01:12:39,233 --> 01:12:39,533 Yup. 2126 01:12:41,766 --> 01:12:43,566 So, I mean, this is 2127 01:12:43,566 --> 01:12:45,133 expected in my opinion. 2128 01:12:45,133 --> 01:12:45,666 I don't know if this 2129 01:12:45,666 --> 01:12:47,899 is like a crazy thing. 2130 01:12:47,966 --> 01:12:49,333 I think it's a little preemptive. 2131 01:12:49,333 --> 01:12:50,833 I still think some of the price hikes 2132 01:12:50,833 --> 01:12:51,466 that have been going on 2133 01:12:51,466 --> 01:12:53,433 are a little preemptive. 2134 01:12:54,566 --> 01:12:56,166 A little, because, you know, 2135 01:12:56,366 --> 01:12:57,933 a company is always 2136 01:12:57,933 --> 01:12:59,533 gonna take advantage of a, 2137 01:13:00,833 --> 01:13:01,966 of a bad situation to 2138 01:13:01,966 --> 01:13:02,866 make money off of us. 2139 01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:04,466 Like, I think the pandemic 2140 01:13:04,466 --> 01:13:05,933 just showed that, like 100%. 2141 01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:12,566 But would you pay for an ROG Xbox Ally X 2142 01:13:12,966 --> 01:13:14,000 that's more than $1,000? 2143 01:13:14,366 --> 01:13:16,466 I would freaking not. 2144 01:13:17,233 --> 01:13:19,600 It is not even worth it at $1,000. 2145 01:13:20,133 --> 01:13:21,266 I know, you returned yours. 2146 01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:25,233 Yeah, it was comfortable, it was. 2147 01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:29,833 I have the Legion Go 2 still, I like it. 2148 01:13:29,833 --> 01:13:31,133 I might sell it at one point 2149 01:13:31,133 --> 01:13:32,033 because I have the Steam Deck 2150 01:13:32,033 --> 01:13:33,600 and I have my main computer, but I'm 2151 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,600 enjoying it as I have it 2152 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:35,833 because it is the best screen. 2153 01:13:36,266 --> 01:13:38,266 It is an 8.8, but like size wise, 2154 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,366 I don't feel it being a 2155 01:13:40,366 --> 01:13:41,633 huge difference over this. 2156 01:13:41,633 --> 01:13:42,133 Like the controller 2157 01:13:42,133 --> 01:13:44,133 handle does feel nicer on this, 2158 01:13:44,266 --> 01:13:45,666 but it is ruined by 2159 01:13:45,666 --> 01:13:47,199 everything else in between it. 2160 01:13:47,666 --> 01:13:50,300 So, AK that screen, I just, 2161 01:13:51,166 --> 01:13:52,733 it's so disgusting, sorry. 2162 01:13:53,233 --> 01:13:55,733 Just like, it's smaller 2163 01:13:55,733 --> 01:13:57,166 than the Steam Deck LCD 2164 01:13:57,766 --> 01:13:58,933 just because the aspect ratio. 2165 01:13:58,933 --> 01:13:59,966 It's just all around just 2166 01:13:59,966 --> 01:14:01,033 not a pleasant experience. 2167 01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:04,366 No, it's not, like, it's like, 2168 01:14:04,666 --> 01:14:06,500 I mean, I've thought about 2169 01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:08,133 upgrading my system, right? 2170 01:14:08,133 --> 01:14:10,600 Like I have a, I don't even remember. 2171 01:14:11,233 --> 01:14:13,866 I have 128 gigs of RAM in this thing 2172 01:14:14,233 --> 01:14:14,966 and it's like, if I wanted 2173 01:14:14,966 --> 01:14:16,399 to like upgrade from there 2174 01:14:16,633 --> 01:14:17,300 or even like just 2175 01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:19,366 stay in parity with that, 2176 01:14:20,033 --> 01:14:23,733 it would be like so beyond my budget. 2177 01:14:24,133 --> 01:14:24,866 Like that would, like 2178 01:14:24,866 --> 01:14:26,733 what I would pay for 128 gigs 2179 01:14:26,733 --> 01:14:29,466 of RAM today would be like. 2180 01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:31,633 Yeah, you don't have to 2181 01:14:31,633 --> 01:14:32,466 brag about your retirement. 2182 01:14:32,699 --> 01:14:33,166 I know, right? 2183 01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:34,066 Well, I mean, this is, 2184 01:14:34,066 --> 01:14:37,433 it's only DDR4 at 200, 2185 01:14:37,933 --> 01:14:40,333 2,667 mega transfers. 2186 01:14:40,433 --> 01:14:42,300 People are buying kits and buying DDR4 2187 01:14:42,466 --> 01:14:43,033 and other stuff to 2188 01:14:43,033 --> 01:14:44,166 convert down and everything. 2189 01:14:44,166 --> 01:14:44,766 You didn't do that? 2190 01:14:45,566 --> 01:14:46,166 Yeah, it's, it's. 2191 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:47,866 I don't think they're backwards. 2192 01:14:49,266 --> 01:14:50,266 Yeah, I didn't think that worked. 2193 01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:50,600 What's that? 2194 01:14:50,833 --> 01:14:52,199 Well, I mean, if you, like, 2195 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,133 the thing is like, if you 2196 01:14:54,133 --> 01:14:56,133 have like a DDR4 motherboard, 2197 01:14:57,133 --> 01:15:00,633 upgrading to a higher thing is like, 2198 01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:03,166 probably the smarter solution, right? 2199 01:15:04,433 --> 01:15:05,366 Then buying a new 2200 01:15:05,366 --> 01:15:07,566 motherboard and getting DDR5. 2201 01:15:09,766 --> 01:15:10,199 Yeah. 2202 01:15:10,233 --> 01:15:10,433 Yeah. 2203 01:15:12,533 --> 01:15:12,833 I don't know. 2204 01:15:13,366 --> 01:15:14,066 I just don't have. 2205 01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:14,966 I mean, people are. 2206 01:15:14,966 --> 01:15:15,666 I just don't have the patience. 2207 01:15:16,066 --> 01:15:17,566 Getting laptop kits too. 2208 01:15:17,966 --> 01:15:18,933 They're getting the laptop RAM, 2209 01:15:19,333 --> 01:15:20,766 getting kits to put into their desktop. 2210 01:15:21,133 --> 01:15:21,333 Yeah. 2211 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:22,133 Well, I mean, that's 2212 01:15:22,133 --> 01:15:22,800 what this motherboard 2213 01:15:22,866 --> 01:15:25,866 that Minisform sent me. 2214 01:15:25,866 --> 01:15:28,833 It's using the SODIM form factor. 2215 01:15:29,333 --> 01:15:30,233 Yeah, it's using SODIM. 2216 01:15:30,566 --> 01:15:31,899 I mean, Steam Machine. 2217 01:15:33,266 --> 01:15:33,500 Yeah. 2218 01:15:34,133 --> 01:15:34,933 Also using SODIM. 2219 01:15:37,399 --> 01:15:38,533 Yeah, it's gonna be, it's 2220 01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:39,766 gonna be a, like, this is, 2221 01:15:40,566 --> 01:15:41,666 well, and the thing is, 2222 01:15:42,633 --> 01:15:43,566 Microsoft didn't realize 2223 01:15:43,566 --> 01:15:45,933 how popular the ROG Xbox LAX 2224 01:15:45,933 --> 01:15:47,899 was going to be and sell out, 2225 01:15:48,433 --> 01:15:48,766 because they just 2226 01:15:48,766 --> 01:15:49,600 weren't prepared for that. 2227 01:15:50,066 --> 01:15:51,933 And so they're upping production too. 2228 01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:53,033 We'll see though. 2229 01:15:53,033 --> 01:15:54,633 I have a feeling that this, like, 2230 01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:55,466 if they increase the 2231 01:15:55,466 --> 01:15:56,399 price at all this year, 2232 01:15:56,966 --> 01:15:59,833 I think ASUS will really suffer. 2233 01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:02,699 I think they'll have a lot of these 2234 01:16:02,699 --> 01:16:04,733 devices on in stock. 2235 01:16:04,733 --> 01:16:05,133 I think they'll 2236 01:16:05,133 --> 01:16:07,566 eventually fatigue themselves out 2237 01:16:07,566 --> 01:16:09,433 when the price increases, but we'll see. 2238 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,033 Yeah. 2239 01:16:10,766 --> 01:16:12,000 I mean, I don't know, dude. 2240 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,433 It's all driven by AI, 2241 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:16,966 and everybody wants AI. 2242 01:16:18,233 --> 01:16:19,100 And Satya Nadella 2243 01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:20,933 from Microsoft wants you 2244 01:16:20,933 --> 01:16:22,866 to stop calling it AI slop, 2245 01:16:23,966 --> 01:16:26,366 because it hurts his little CEO fee fees. 2246 01:16:28,733 --> 01:16:29,333 I agree. 2247 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:30,166 We should call it 2248 01:16:30,166 --> 01:16:32,166 something else, like AI dog shit. 2249 01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,533 I mean, I think there's a difference too. 2250 01:16:37,566 --> 01:16:39,166 I don't like that if it's AI, 2251 01:16:39,366 --> 01:16:40,566 people just call it slop automatically, 2252 01:16:40,566 --> 01:16:42,366 where I'm like, no, 2253 01:16:42,633 --> 01:16:43,666 doesn't mean everything's slop. 2254 01:16:43,666 --> 01:16:45,066 That's, I think, what I'm fatigued with, 2255 01:16:45,066 --> 01:16:46,433 where I'm like, okay, 2256 01:16:46,433 --> 01:16:48,333 guys, AI slop or whatever. 2257 01:16:49,399 --> 01:16:50,833 I think we are overusing a 2258 01:16:50,833 --> 01:16:52,000 lot of these terms too much, 2259 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,399 to where I'm like, it's 2260 01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:54,566 obvious this isn't slop 2261 01:16:54,566 --> 01:16:55,366 that you're calling slop. 2262 01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:55,600 Well. 2263 01:16:56,333 --> 01:16:58,466 But at the same time, 2264 01:16:59,133 --> 01:17:00,733 you're gonna have to up your game 2265 01:17:00,733 --> 01:17:01,966 in 2026 if you don't 2266 01:17:01,966 --> 01:17:02,966 want anyone to be calling it 2267 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:03,800 anything slop. 2268 01:17:04,166 --> 01:17:07,399 And also in this context, yeah, 2269 01:17:07,399 --> 01:17:09,433 he's being a shithead on this. 2270 01:17:09,466 --> 01:17:11,333 Here's the thing, slop 2271 01:17:11,333 --> 01:17:14,166 to me evokes the idea 2272 01:17:14,833 --> 01:17:19,133 of just, you know, refuse, right? 2273 01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:21,266 Like it's like the 2274 01:17:21,266 --> 01:17:23,733 leftovers of what you would, 2275 01:17:23,866 --> 01:17:25,133 you'd feed like your 2276 01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:28,199 leftovers to your pig or whatever. 2277 01:17:28,666 --> 01:17:29,333 That's slop. 2278 01:17:29,933 --> 01:17:30,766 And to me-- 2279 01:17:30,866 --> 01:17:32,733 It's undesirable and it's leftover. 2280 01:17:33,166 --> 01:17:36,133 Like yeah, it's undesirable, old food, 2281 01:17:36,366 --> 01:17:37,899 or in this case, undesirable content. 2282 01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:39,433 But that's not always the case. 2283 01:17:39,433 --> 01:17:40,000 That's my problem. 2284 01:17:40,233 --> 01:17:41,033 Well, to me it is. 2285 01:17:42,066 --> 01:17:45,366 Because AI can't do anything creative. 2286 01:17:45,366 --> 01:17:47,166 It can't generate new things. 2287 01:17:47,166 --> 01:17:48,300 It can only remix 2288 01:17:48,300 --> 01:17:49,833 what it already has seen. 2289 01:17:50,733 --> 01:17:52,033 So to me-- 2290 01:17:52,366 --> 01:17:53,166 I would argue there's 2291 01:17:53,166 --> 01:17:54,466 some creativity in there, 2292 01:17:54,466 --> 01:17:55,766 but yeah, it's not like, 2293 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,133 usually it's the prompter 2294 01:17:58,533 --> 01:18:00,633 that adds a flare of 2295 01:18:00,633 --> 01:18:01,633 the creativity to it. 2296 01:18:02,933 --> 01:18:05,466 But it really depends on stuff like it. 2297 01:18:05,466 --> 01:18:06,066 Yeah, I don't know. 2298 01:18:06,066 --> 01:18:06,266 I just-- 2299 01:18:06,733 --> 01:18:09,333 It's an argument that I could get into. 2300 01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:10,466 It's one that we get 2301 01:18:10,466 --> 01:18:11,966 into frequently on the show. 2302 01:18:12,733 --> 01:18:13,199 I know. 2303 01:18:13,399 --> 01:18:13,600 But-- 2304 01:18:13,966 --> 01:18:15,266 And I like, the thing 2305 01:18:15,266 --> 01:18:20,100 is, I think AI is going, 2306 01:18:20,633 --> 01:18:21,566 we're a little cooked 2307 01:18:21,566 --> 01:18:22,333 when it comes to AI. 2308 01:18:22,333 --> 01:18:23,366 I think we're going to 2309 01:18:23,366 --> 01:18:24,333 become more and more cooked 2310 01:18:24,333 --> 01:18:26,133 when it comes to AI in multiple ways. 2311 01:18:26,866 --> 01:18:27,666 But I'm going to 2312 01:18:27,666 --> 01:18:29,166 recognize that it will sometimes 2313 01:18:29,433 --> 01:18:33,833 create very interesting non-slop stuff, 2314 01:18:34,733 --> 01:18:36,766 but I have to massage it there. 2315 01:18:36,766 --> 01:18:38,633 I have to do a lot of work to get there. 2316 01:18:38,633 --> 01:18:39,066 That's fine. 2317 01:18:42,066 --> 01:18:43,233 But at the same time, is 2318 01:18:43,233 --> 01:18:44,333 that a good thing or not? 2319 01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:45,800 Is using generative a good thing or not? 2320 01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:51,933 I'm going off board on this, but. 2321 01:18:52,866 --> 01:18:53,533 Yeah, I'm a fence center 2322 01:18:53,533 --> 01:18:55,000 on this issue, I guess. 2323 01:18:55,699 --> 01:18:56,699 I don't like that. 2324 01:18:57,233 --> 01:18:58,899 He's like, you can't call it slop though. 2325 01:18:58,933 --> 01:19:00,833 Okay, then make sure it's 2326 01:19:00,833 --> 01:19:02,466 good then, as substance. 2327 01:19:03,433 --> 01:19:05,633 So, so Nadella wants to 2328 01:19:05,633 --> 01:19:07,033 talk about the arguments 2329 01:19:07,033 --> 01:19:08,566 of slop versus sophistication. 2330 01:19:09,666 --> 01:19:10,666 Do you guys ever see 2331 01:19:10,666 --> 01:19:11,933 anyone saying anything 2332 01:19:11,933 --> 01:19:13,266 as AI sophistication? 2333 01:19:14,566 --> 01:19:14,766 No. 2334 01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:16,933 I don't. 2335 01:19:17,833 --> 01:19:18,533 Sophisticated? 2336 01:19:18,566 --> 01:19:19,466 Sophisticated, yeah, 2337 01:19:19,466 --> 01:19:20,366 the technology itself. 2338 01:19:21,533 --> 01:19:24,533 Yeah, but the stuff that gets generated 2339 01:19:24,733 --> 01:19:26,866 from that Gen AI sophistication. 2340 01:19:28,133 --> 01:19:30,066 Yeah, now if you're 2341 01:19:30,066 --> 01:19:31,566 saying, hey, write me a story, 2342 01:19:31,866 --> 01:19:33,699 that's all you do, you're 2343 01:19:33,699 --> 01:19:34,699 not gonna get sophistication. 2344 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,833 It is still to this 2345 01:19:36,833 --> 01:19:37,666 point, and I don't think 2346 01:19:37,666 --> 01:19:38,933 it's gonna change for a long time. 2347 01:19:39,366 --> 01:19:43,166 You still have to massage the way it goes 2348 01:19:43,466 --> 01:19:44,633 to get sophisticated stuff. 2349 01:19:44,666 --> 01:19:44,866 Right. 2350 01:19:46,733 --> 01:19:47,699 Also, you know what's interesting? 2351 01:19:48,066 --> 01:19:48,566 That just might be a problem. 2352 01:19:48,666 --> 01:19:50,133 Slop was the word of 2353 01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:52,399 the year, this past year. 2354 01:19:53,333 --> 01:19:53,533 Yeah. 2355 01:19:54,166 --> 01:19:54,366 Yeah. 2356 01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:57,433 There were actually quite a few. 2357 01:19:57,466 --> 01:19:59,266 I think the biggest diss is not making 2358 01:19:59,266 --> 01:20:00,433 something AI related. 2359 01:20:01,033 --> 01:20:03,033 I've had stuff called slop, AI slop, 2360 01:20:03,033 --> 01:20:04,133 that I've posted and stuff, 2361 01:20:04,333 --> 01:20:06,266 and that's the biggest diss. 2362 01:20:06,266 --> 01:20:06,566 I think you can just-- 2363 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,933 Well, there's other words on here too. 2364 01:20:07,933 --> 01:20:09,166 Like, this is just AI slop. 2365 01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:10,333 There's a little word on here too. 2366 01:20:10,866 --> 01:20:12,833 Garymander is another major word. 2367 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,266 Garymander, you mean gerrymander? 2368 01:20:16,333 --> 01:20:17,300 Yeah, gerrymander, sorry. 2369 01:20:19,633 --> 01:20:21,233 I thought there was a new meaning to it. 2370 01:20:21,266 --> 01:20:22,033 Touch grass. 2371 01:20:25,333 --> 01:20:25,866 Performative. 2372 01:20:28,333 --> 01:20:29,266 Touch grass has been around for so long. 2373 01:20:29,266 --> 01:20:31,033 Touch grass makes me upset 2374 01:20:31,166 --> 01:20:33,866 because it was coined by an asshole. 2375 01:20:34,533 --> 01:20:35,966 So I just don't like that it's-- 2376 01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:38,833 Well, usually when you're telling someone 2377 01:20:38,833 --> 01:20:39,933 to touch grass, you're gonna be an 2378 01:20:39,933 --> 01:20:40,666 asshole, to be honest. 2379 01:20:41,133 --> 01:20:42,100 Must be perfectly flake. 2380 01:20:42,866 --> 01:20:43,066 Yeah. 2381 01:20:44,066 --> 01:20:44,899 Yeah, sometimes you have 2382 01:20:44,899 --> 01:20:45,733 to be an asshole though. 2383 01:20:47,033 --> 01:20:48,066 Some people really do 2384 01:20:48,066 --> 01:20:48,866 though, to be honest. 2385 01:20:49,633 --> 01:20:51,833 See, performative, what does this mean? 2386 01:20:53,333 --> 01:20:53,633 Oh. 2387 01:20:55,766 --> 01:20:56,000 Terrace. 2388 01:20:57,433 --> 01:20:57,633 Yeah. 2389 01:21:00,699 --> 01:21:02,133 Performative macha. 2390 01:21:02,133 --> 01:21:02,699 I feel like some of these things-- 2391 01:21:03,766 --> 01:21:04,633 That is so true. 2392 01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:07,766 Are like half a decade old. 2393 01:21:08,133 --> 01:21:08,933 Some of the stuff is, 2394 01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:10,766 they really missed it. 2395 01:21:11,333 --> 01:21:12,933 Ooh, tariff is another word. 2396 01:21:15,233 --> 01:21:15,899 Six, seven. 2397 01:21:17,266 --> 01:21:17,533 Yikes. 2398 01:21:20,366 --> 01:21:21,333 Six, seven, yikes. 2399 01:21:21,833 --> 01:21:23,800 I mean, it's just youth. 2400 01:21:24,333 --> 01:21:25,733 I say yikes because of 2401 01:21:25,733 --> 01:21:27,399 all of the reaction to it 2402 01:21:27,399 --> 01:21:29,433 and not because kids are saying it. 2403 01:21:29,433 --> 01:21:31,233 Like the reaction to it is so 2404 01:21:31,233 --> 01:21:33,266 ridiculously overblown. 2405 01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:34,533 What's the reaction to it? 2406 01:21:35,066 --> 01:21:36,166 That's the word of the day. 2407 01:21:36,966 --> 01:21:38,166 Okay, you don't know how 2408 01:21:38,166 --> 01:21:40,366 to parent if you do that. 2409 01:21:41,133 --> 01:21:42,033 Here's a secret guys. 2410 01:21:42,333 --> 01:21:42,966 I'm gonna give a secret 2411 01:21:42,966 --> 01:21:43,833 to anyone that has kids. 2412 01:21:44,466 --> 01:21:46,733 Just lean into it and it will fade away. 2413 01:21:46,966 --> 01:21:48,466 I even say six, seven sometimes 2414 01:21:48,833 --> 01:21:50,033 and you know what my kids don't know. 2415 01:21:50,033 --> 01:21:50,833 They don't say six, seven. 2416 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,300 They don't say six, seven. 2417 01:21:53,333 --> 01:21:54,866 In fact, one of them's tired of it. 2418 01:21:55,966 --> 01:21:56,433 I don't care. 2419 01:21:56,833 --> 01:21:58,633 It is kid jargon. 2420 01:21:58,899 --> 01:21:59,766 I had slang and stuff 2421 01:21:59,766 --> 01:22:00,866 like this when I was a kid. 2422 01:22:01,433 --> 01:22:03,066 It does not matter if 2423 01:22:03,066 --> 01:22:04,166 this is ruining your life, 2424 01:22:04,566 --> 01:22:08,133 which I will say this is 2425 01:22:08,133 --> 01:22:10,199 annoying for the opposite reasons. 2426 01:22:10,533 --> 01:22:11,566 I live in the Bible 2427 01:22:11,566 --> 01:22:13,133 belt of Utah technically. 2428 01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:14,333 I live in Utah County right now, 2429 01:22:14,333 --> 01:22:15,833 which I'm trying to get out of. 2430 01:22:16,466 --> 01:22:17,333 Even though, you know, 2431 01:22:17,833 --> 01:22:19,133 the real Mormon housewives 2432 01:22:19,133 --> 01:22:19,966 or whatever like that 2433 01:22:19,966 --> 01:22:21,266 show is based in this area 2434 01:22:21,466 --> 01:22:25,033 but I'm in Costco line 2435 01:22:25,866 --> 01:22:28,266 and they start talking about six, seven. 2436 01:22:28,266 --> 01:22:28,899 They're like, yeah, I heard 2437 01:22:28,899 --> 01:22:30,066 something like it's demonic 2438 01:22:30,333 --> 01:22:31,899 or I'm like, not 2439 01:22:31,899 --> 01:22:33,333 everything has to be demonic 2440 01:22:33,733 --> 01:22:34,433 just cause you don't 2441 01:22:34,433 --> 01:22:35,633 understand it does not mean 2442 01:22:35,733 --> 01:22:36,366 it's up the devil. 2443 01:22:36,366 --> 01:22:37,166 Yeah, maybe you're just stupid. 2444 01:22:37,166 --> 01:22:38,033 Oh my God. 2445 01:22:38,133 --> 01:22:38,399 No offense. 2446 01:22:39,666 --> 01:22:40,433 They are stupid. 2447 01:22:41,133 --> 01:22:42,366 They don't, they explain, 2448 01:22:42,566 --> 01:22:43,533 and this is the Bible belt. 2449 01:22:43,533 --> 01:22:44,466 This is this area too. 2450 01:22:45,133 --> 01:22:45,766 If there's not an 2451 01:22:45,766 --> 01:22:47,366 explanation, it is up the devil 2452 01:22:47,633 --> 01:22:50,300 and you can't, if you want 2453 01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:51,533 me to judge your intelligence 2454 01:22:51,533 --> 01:22:53,866 that go that route, sorry, rant over. 2455 01:22:54,766 --> 01:22:56,300 That's the only part of six, seven 2456 01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:57,166 that I have been annoyed 2457 01:22:57,166 --> 01:22:58,533 about is because people try 2458 01:22:58,666 --> 01:23:00,966 to make it something 2459 01:23:00,966 --> 01:23:02,600 that's evil and I'm tired of it. 2460 01:23:03,133 --> 01:23:03,699 I grew up with that. 2461 01:23:03,966 --> 01:23:04,333 I'm tired of it. 2462 01:23:04,333 --> 01:23:05,633 Evil is what you don't understand. 2463 01:23:06,933 --> 01:23:09,699 Like Lake Jess, whatever this is. 2464 01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:10,800 I'm not even gonna try. 2465 01:23:12,633 --> 01:23:13,666 Yeah, what is this? 2466 01:23:13,699 --> 01:23:14,566 I've never even heard of this. 2467 01:23:15,233 --> 01:23:16,733 Oh, cause it was in a spelling bee. 2468 01:23:17,666 --> 01:23:17,866 What? 2469 01:23:18,366 --> 01:23:18,566 What? 2470 01:23:19,566 --> 01:23:20,766 In the hit Roblox game 2471 01:23:20,766 --> 01:23:21,966 spelling bee, the name, 2472 01:23:22,466 --> 01:23:23,366 the lake's name. 2473 01:23:23,733 --> 01:23:26,366 Roblox stole the spelling bee concept 2474 01:23:26,366 --> 01:23:28,033 and made it their own thing. 2475 01:23:28,733 --> 01:23:29,266 Wow. 2476 01:23:30,033 --> 01:23:30,633 I mean. 2477 01:23:30,699 --> 01:23:31,533 What kid would that, what 2478 01:23:31,533 --> 01:23:32,766 kid would willingly play 2479 01:23:32,766 --> 01:23:34,366 the spelling bee on Roblox? 2480 01:23:34,966 --> 01:23:35,966 That's my question. 2481 01:23:35,966 --> 01:23:36,766 Why is it a hit game? 2482 01:23:38,733 --> 01:23:38,933 Yeah. 2483 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,133 It's another six, seven thing. 2484 01:23:41,466 --> 01:23:43,333 I would just not worry about it. 2485 01:23:43,333 --> 01:23:44,000 It's a mod. 2486 01:23:44,166 --> 01:23:44,766 It's a game that they 2487 01:23:44,766 --> 01:23:47,466 created by kids, for kids, 2488 01:23:48,166 --> 01:23:50,333 that Roblox is making money off of. 2489 01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:50,533 So. 2490 01:23:51,033 --> 01:23:51,233 Yeah. 2491 01:23:51,566 --> 01:23:51,766 Yeah. 2492 01:23:52,333 --> 01:23:54,266 It has an alternate name, Webster Lake. 2493 01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:57,800 Wow, that's convenient. 2494 01:23:58,766 --> 01:24:00,500 Convenient coming from United Webster. 2495 01:24:02,633 --> 01:24:02,833 Yeah. 2496 01:24:03,133 --> 01:24:03,633 I mean, if they're 2497 01:24:03,633 --> 01:24:05,333 learning how to spell some words, 2498 01:24:05,333 --> 01:24:06,166 then you know, at least 2499 01:24:06,166 --> 01:24:08,333 there's a little veiled learning. 2500 01:24:09,366 --> 01:24:11,233 It's like that one viral British village 2501 01:24:11,466 --> 01:24:12,933 that I saw online. 2502 01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:15,166 A news report on. 2503 01:24:15,166 --> 01:24:15,433 Oh yeah. 2504 01:24:18,366 --> 01:24:18,533 Yeah. 2505 01:24:19,133 --> 01:24:20,366 I should, I'm not gonna try. 2506 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,166 I couldn't tell you 2507 01:24:21,166 --> 01:24:22,333 what it was, but I know it. 2508 01:24:22,733 --> 01:24:24,466 So, should we, so I 2509 01:24:24,466 --> 01:24:25,166 got a poll for everyone. 2510 01:24:25,933 --> 01:24:27,766 Should we stop calling it AI Slop? 2511 01:24:29,266 --> 01:24:31,766 As per Mr. Nadella? 2512 01:24:32,433 --> 01:24:33,633 Well, he wants us to call 2513 01:24:33,633 --> 01:24:36,133 it cognitive amplifier tools 2514 01:24:36,633 --> 01:24:38,766 because he had a rib removed last week 2515 01:24:38,766 --> 01:24:40,466 so he could fillet himself even harder. 2516 01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:42,266 Well, I mean. 2517 01:24:42,566 --> 01:24:42,766 Oh, shh. 2518 01:24:43,566 --> 01:24:44,633 This is not the bonus episode. 2519 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:45,766 Yeah, oh my God. 2520 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:46,399 That is good. 2521 01:24:46,866 --> 01:24:47,066 English. 2522 01:24:47,866 --> 01:24:49,800 We needed a cold open, guys. 2523 01:24:51,266 --> 01:24:52,566 Nah, he, he, he welded 2524 01:24:52,566 --> 01:24:53,566 in some intelligent talk, 2525 01:24:53,566 --> 01:24:54,166 so it's good. 2526 01:24:54,166 --> 01:24:54,633 We're all good. 2527 01:24:54,866 --> 01:24:55,933 No, that's, that's hilarious. 2528 01:24:56,366 --> 01:24:57,000 But here's my thing 2529 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,633 with cognitive amplifiers. 2530 01:24:58,899 --> 01:25:00,399 What is zero times any numbers? 2531 01:25:05,466 --> 01:25:06,966 I think I love you. 2532 01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,000 That was perfect. 2533 01:25:08,433 --> 01:25:09,333 That was so good. 2534 01:25:09,733 --> 01:25:11,333 (sighs) 2535 01:25:12,733 --> 01:25:14,066 I just, I'm sorry, that 2536 01:25:14,066 --> 01:25:14,899 didn't hit me as hard. 2537 01:25:14,899 --> 01:25:15,633 Like, it is good. 2538 01:25:16,366 --> 01:25:18,133 But I think there's some 2539 01:25:18,133 --> 01:25:19,533 decent AI stuff out there. 2540 01:25:19,766 --> 01:25:21,233 It's just, there's also Slop. 2541 01:25:21,266 --> 01:25:21,666 I agree. 2542 01:25:22,266 --> 01:25:24,100 So, to try to change 2543 01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,333 it from saying AI Slop, 2544 01:25:25,333 --> 01:25:26,933 yeah, no, if it's Slop, it's Slop. 2545 01:25:26,933 --> 01:25:27,766 And there will be Slop 2546 01:25:27,766 --> 01:25:29,166 for a decade to come. 2547 01:25:29,766 --> 01:25:31,600 But like, trying to change it 2548 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:32,266 because it hurts your 2549 01:25:32,266 --> 01:25:33,066 feelings is bizarre. 2550 01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:35,133 The problem here is that 2551 01:25:35,133 --> 01:25:37,966 he's calling his AI chatbot 2552 01:25:38,699 --> 01:25:41,166 cognitive amplifier tools. 2553 01:25:42,266 --> 01:25:43,366 And, and like, 2554 01:25:43,966 --> 01:25:46,633 arguably you could say that 2555 01:25:46,666 --> 01:25:48,300 about maybe some like 2556 01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:51,233 interactive coding stuff with AI. 2557 01:25:51,566 --> 01:25:55,366 But like, you could call a book a 2558 01:25:55,366 --> 01:25:56,733 cognitive amplifying tool. 2559 01:25:56,933 --> 01:25:59,533 Like you can, dude, like, it's so stupid. 2560 01:26:00,033 --> 01:26:01,300 And these guys are so up 2561 01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:02,699 their own ass about this stuff. 2562 01:26:03,433 --> 01:26:03,866 They are. 2563 01:26:04,199 --> 01:26:05,533 They're the other thing too. 2564 01:26:06,366 --> 01:26:07,166 He needs to retire. 2565 01:26:07,533 --> 01:26:08,433 If you're talking like that, you're retired. 2566 01:26:08,433 --> 01:26:09,500 Here's the other thing too though. 2567 01:26:09,766 --> 01:26:11,266 We've seen on everyone's 2568 01:26:11,266 --> 01:26:12,666 favorite website, x.com, 2569 01:26:13,233 --> 01:26:16,933 home of Grock, the predator at AI. 2570 01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:21,166 But we've seen people 2571 01:26:21,166 --> 01:26:22,899 literally outsource their- 2572 01:26:22,899 --> 01:26:23,466 The predator AI. 2573 01:26:24,033 --> 01:26:26,033 Their cognitive functions to this AI. 2574 01:26:26,766 --> 01:26:27,733 Grock, is this real? 2575 01:26:27,766 --> 01:26:28,566 Grock, is this true? 2576 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,500 We've seen it happen. 2577 01:26:32,133 --> 01:26:33,033 I mean, I'll be honest. 2578 01:26:33,633 --> 01:26:36,166 I do follow those sometimes. 2579 01:26:36,466 --> 01:26:37,433 I will go down that rebel 2580 01:26:37,433 --> 01:26:38,866 cause they will argue with Grock 2581 01:26:38,866 --> 01:26:41,600 and I'm just like, you guys are idiots. 2582 01:26:42,266 --> 01:26:43,166 And it's a little 2583 01:26:43,166 --> 01:26:44,433 hilarious, but at the same time, 2584 01:26:44,433 --> 01:26:46,266 it's like, Gardner's idea 2585 01:26:46,266 --> 01:26:49,566 of essentially banning people 2586 01:26:49,566 --> 01:26:50,833 on the internet is a good idea. 2587 01:26:51,033 --> 01:26:51,666 Grock, is this true? 2588 01:26:53,633 --> 01:26:54,166 Wait, what? 2589 01:26:54,933 --> 01:26:55,666 Your idea with the- 2590 01:26:55,766 --> 01:26:57,066 No, the library card thing. 2591 01:26:57,933 --> 01:26:58,466 But for the internet- 2592 01:26:58,600 --> 01:26:59,300 Library card thing. 2593 01:27:01,366 --> 01:27:02,733 Sorry, I was gonna go down there. 2594 01:27:02,733 --> 01:27:03,366 I mean, some people should 2595 01:27:03,366 --> 01:27:04,066 be banned from the internet, 2596 01:27:04,066 --> 01:27:04,466 let's be honest. 2597 01:27:07,333 --> 01:27:07,866 Timeouts. 2598 01:27:08,633 --> 01:27:10,033 We should put them in internet timeout, 2599 01:27:10,266 --> 01:27:11,600 put them in the North Korean internet. 2600 01:27:13,733 --> 01:27:15,566 I just, I also think it, 2601 01:27:15,566 --> 01:27:17,000 I'm tired of people thinking that they 2602 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:17,733 need to have a voice 2603 01:27:17,733 --> 01:27:18,600 on the internet and 2604 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:19,666 that they deserve one, 2605 01:27:19,899 --> 01:27:21,633 where it's like, you don't need to say 2606 01:27:21,633 --> 01:27:22,500 everything you think. 2607 01:27:22,533 --> 01:27:23,833 This guy deletes my comments. 2608 01:27:24,833 --> 01:27:25,733 Yeah, you're not, yeah. 2609 01:27:26,066 --> 01:27:27,566 I mean, I don't think 2610 01:27:27,566 --> 01:27:28,466 we're special either. 2611 01:27:28,833 --> 01:27:29,800 I mean, I like to think 2612 01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:30,666 that I'd have a voice, 2613 01:27:30,666 --> 01:27:32,699 but I also like to not outsource 2614 01:27:32,699 --> 01:27:34,533 my cognitive functions to Grock. 2615 01:27:36,633 --> 01:27:37,566 We're more reserved. 2616 01:27:37,566 --> 01:27:38,233 I didn't find having 2617 01:27:38,233 --> 01:27:41,133 people have free reign. 2618 01:27:41,733 --> 01:27:43,366 I just, you don't have to 2619 01:27:43,366 --> 01:27:44,866 say everything that you think. 2620 01:27:45,433 --> 01:27:46,500 And then on top of it, 2621 01:27:47,533 --> 01:27:48,433 don't get manipulated 2622 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:49,433 and a lot of them get 2623 01:27:49,433 --> 01:27:51,166 manipulated so hard on the internet. 2624 01:27:51,766 --> 01:27:53,600 It's like the problem, I 2625 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:54,866 know I mentioned it earlier, 2626 01:27:54,866 --> 01:27:56,233 we talked about cars a little bit. 2627 01:27:58,533 --> 01:27:59,566 Cars, dude, seriously, 2628 01:28:00,633 --> 01:28:02,466 like people put bumper 2629 01:28:02,466 --> 01:28:03,766 stickers on their cars, right? 2630 01:28:04,166 --> 01:28:05,966 And it's like, they're pithy 2631 01:28:05,966 --> 01:28:08,833 one-liners that people say, 2632 01:28:09,500 --> 01:28:11,133 they use them to like, 2633 01:28:11,733 --> 01:28:13,633 as a thought terminating cliche, right? 2634 01:28:13,633 --> 01:28:14,800 They use them as like, 2635 01:28:16,266 --> 01:28:19,333 these are memes that represent who I am. 2636 01:28:19,699 --> 01:28:21,166 And it's the exact same 2637 01:28:21,166 --> 01:28:22,399 thing on the internet, right? 2638 01:28:22,766 --> 01:28:23,766 And it's like, we're 2639 01:28:23,766 --> 01:28:25,233 outsourcing the creation 2640 01:28:25,233 --> 01:28:26,733 of those things to 2641 01:28:26,733 --> 01:28:29,133 these corporate colonizers 2642 01:28:29,133 --> 01:28:30,666 who want to replace 2643 01:28:30,666 --> 01:28:32,833 our critical faculties 2644 01:28:33,466 --> 01:28:35,166 with their AI models. 2645 01:28:35,866 --> 01:28:37,399 And I just won't do it 2646 01:28:37,399 --> 01:28:38,766 and I won't engage with it. 2647 01:28:38,766 --> 01:28:39,833 And I will be 2648 01:28:39,833 --> 01:28:41,833 critical of it for all time. 2649 01:28:42,533 --> 01:28:43,533 It's like, I don't know, 2650 01:28:43,933 --> 01:28:44,733 these chatbots are 2651 01:28:44,733 --> 01:28:46,666 just like meme factories 2652 01:28:46,866 --> 01:28:48,433 because they never create anything new. 2653 01:28:49,066 --> 01:28:50,933 They're just putting out 2654 01:28:50,933 --> 01:28:53,633 memes that people can pretend 2655 01:28:54,266 --> 01:28:55,199 that they invented or 2656 01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:57,066 pretend that represents them 2657 01:28:57,066 --> 01:28:58,100 in some unique way. 2658 01:28:58,333 --> 01:28:59,133 It's the same thing as 2659 01:28:59,133 --> 01:29:00,100 bumper stickers to me. 2660 01:29:00,766 --> 01:29:01,399 I'm not gonna lie. 2661 01:29:01,899 --> 01:29:04,133 I find bumper stickers very tacky, 2662 01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:05,633 no matter what the message is. 2663 01:29:06,233 --> 01:29:06,433 Yeah. 2664 01:29:10,466 --> 01:29:13,366 I think you've convinced me. 2665 01:29:13,666 --> 01:29:15,766 I think the internet's fine. 2666 01:29:15,766 --> 01:29:19,166 I can go look at X and look at that. 2667 01:29:19,166 --> 01:29:20,300 I have to choose to look at that. 2668 01:29:20,300 --> 01:29:21,366 Bumper stickers, I don't get to choose. 2669 01:29:21,366 --> 01:29:22,066 I have to look at it. 2670 01:29:22,399 --> 01:29:23,466 So let's ban bumper stickers. 2671 01:29:24,333 --> 01:29:25,033 I agree with you, Gordon. 2672 01:29:25,033 --> 01:29:25,766 I didn't say that. 2673 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,533 No, I know you didn't say that. 2674 01:29:28,966 --> 01:29:29,899 I'm just having fun. 2675 01:29:30,466 --> 01:29:32,000 I, ugh. 2676 01:29:32,133 --> 01:29:32,500 What do you think 2677 01:29:32,500 --> 01:29:33,533 about people that put like 2678 01:29:33,966 --> 01:29:36,000 entire anime girl decals in their cars? 2679 01:29:37,233 --> 01:29:38,433 I've never seen that. 2680 01:29:38,433 --> 01:29:39,233 I think they're brave. 2681 01:29:39,466 --> 01:29:39,733 Really? 2682 01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:40,966 They're brave. 2683 01:29:41,633 --> 01:29:42,933 I think we should have gotten yourself. 2684 01:29:43,066 --> 01:29:43,833 I would never do that. 2685 01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:44,866 Oh, you might look in real 2686 01:29:44,866 --> 01:29:46,466 life or like on the internet. 2687 01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:50,933 Let's do it on the next bonus episode. 2688 01:29:51,399 --> 01:29:52,533 That could be a topic and 2689 01:29:52,533 --> 01:29:54,166 you could show him some of the. 2690 01:29:54,233 --> 01:29:54,500 This. 2691 01:29:56,033 --> 01:29:57,266 I've, what I have 2692 01:29:57,266 --> 01:29:59,833 seen are like, you know, 2693 01:30:00,166 --> 01:30:01,399 idiots from Massachusetts 2694 01:30:01,399 --> 01:30:04,266 who have like, you know, RGB, 2695 01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:06,100 like lighting up the 2696 01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:07,633 car, like underneath the, 2697 01:30:07,933 --> 01:30:08,833 underneath the car. 2698 01:30:09,033 --> 01:30:09,666 Have you seen those? 2699 01:30:09,966 --> 01:30:10,266 Oh. 2700 01:30:10,266 --> 01:30:10,466 Like. 2701 01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:12,033 My brother has one of those. 2702 01:30:12,566 --> 01:30:13,566 I've never seen any 2703 01:30:13,566 --> 01:30:14,899 car in the state of Maine 2704 01:30:15,533 --> 01:30:16,866 with a Maine license plate 2705 01:30:16,866 --> 01:30:18,833 with like LEDs lighting the 2706 01:30:18,833 --> 01:30:19,899 ground underneath the 2707 01:30:19,899 --> 01:30:21,166 car while it's driving. 2708 01:30:21,899 --> 01:30:23,433 But, but I have seen 2709 01:30:23,433 --> 01:30:24,633 those many, many times 2710 01:30:24,833 --> 01:30:25,699 in almost all of them 2711 01:30:25,699 --> 01:30:26,533 are from Massachusetts. 2712 01:30:26,833 --> 01:30:27,466 Cause that's one of 2713 01:30:27,466 --> 01:30:28,933 our closest neighbors. 2714 01:30:29,833 --> 01:30:31,399 My brother has a car that does that 2715 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:32,933 and he installed them himself. 2716 01:30:33,866 --> 01:30:35,033 Oh man. I don't like them. 2717 01:30:35,033 --> 01:30:35,433 He's a car guy. 2718 01:30:35,433 --> 01:30:36,166 I think they're super distracting. 2719 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,000 I'm okay time and place though. 2720 01:30:40,733 --> 01:30:41,666 If you're on the freeway and 2721 01:30:41,666 --> 01:30:43,366 I'm driving, let's say like, 2722 01:30:43,366 --> 01:30:44,033 cause I go visit my 2723 01:30:44,033 --> 01:30:45,566 parents four hours away. 2724 01:30:46,333 --> 01:30:47,399 If I'm driving that freeway 2725 01:30:47,399 --> 01:30:48,633 stretch and you have LEDs, 2726 01:30:48,633 --> 01:30:49,666 I'm going to be pissed off. 2727 01:30:49,666 --> 01:30:50,199 Cause it's just gonna be mad. 2728 01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:50,666 I don't know if it's, I 2729 01:30:50,666 --> 01:30:51,666 think RGB is pretty cool. 2730 01:30:52,433 --> 01:30:53,666 I don't, I don't. 2731 01:30:54,266 --> 01:30:55,666 No, I agree. 2732 01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,133 If you're in the city and 2733 01:30:57,133 --> 01:30:58,433 it's just every once in a while 2734 01:30:59,033 --> 01:31:00,466 or I don't know time and place. 2735 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:01,266 If it's the middle of the 2736 01:31:01,266 --> 01:31:02,133 night and you're driving down 2737 01:31:02,133 --> 01:31:03,033 the highway and you got your 2738 01:31:03,033 --> 01:31:05,300 LEDs on and it's like rainbow 2739 01:31:05,399 --> 01:31:09,333 pattern RGB, I'm like, get off the road. 2740 01:31:10,733 --> 01:31:11,166 It's so. 2741 01:31:11,766 --> 01:31:13,466 It's distracting and it can be bright. 2742 01:31:13,766 --> 01:31:13,833 It's dangerous. 2743 01:31:13,833 --> 01:31:14,833 And I just don't like it. 2744 01:31:15,466 --> 01:31:17,233 Dude, as it like, okay, 2745 01:31:17,233 --> 01:31:19,566 I am 37 years old, right? 2746 01:31:20,033 --> 01:31:21,766 Like my eyesight driving 2747 01:31:21,766 --> 01:31:23,366 at night has like diminished 2748 01:31:23,666 --> 01:31:24,266 significantly. 2749 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,933 It's like the less 2750 01:31:25,933 --> 01:31:27,666 distraction, the more I can see, 2751 01:31:27,966 --> 01:31:29,266 the better it is, the 2752 01:31:29,266 --> 01:31:30,300 safer it's going to be. 2753 01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:31,600 Like I don't like it. 2754 01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:33,100 I agree with you. 2755 01:31:33,333 --> 01:31:34,366 And if that's the case, 2756 01:31:34,366 --> 01:31:35,466 we needed band trucks. 2757 01:31:35,466 --> 01:31:37,466 What if you just, what if you just 2758 01:31:37,466 --> 01:31:38,933 accidentally crashed 2759 01:31:39,033 --> 01:31:40,066 into one of those 2760 01:31:40,066 --> 01:31:41,533 cars with the LED lights? 2761 01:31:42,233 --> 01:31:43,533 Well, then it's still my fault. 2762 01:31:43,933 --> 01:31:44,766 I wouldn't do that. 2763 01:31:45,133 --> 01:31:45,433 True. 2764 01:31:47,033 --> 01:31:47,800 Right, I crashed into it 2765 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:48,366 and you're gonna have to sit 2766 01:31:48,366 --> 01:31:49,966 there for like an hour and 2767 01:31:49,966 --> 01:31:51,366 suffering while it's just 2768 01:31:51,433 --> 01:31:52,166 flashing in your head. 2769 01:31:53,733 --> 01:31:54,366 You know what else is? 2770 01:31:54,833 --> 01:31:55,600 You're just getting a 2771 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:56,666 rave the whole time. 2772 01:31:57,366 --> 01:31:57,466 Yeah, you are also 2773 01:31:57,466 --> 01:31:59,633 suffering and flash in like, 2774 01:31:59,866 --> 01:32:00,966 gonna flash in your head forever. 2775 01:32:02,533 --> 01:32:03,566 That was a terrible, that 2776 01:32:03,566 --> 01:32:04,766 was a terrible transition. 2777 01:32:05,233 --> 01:32:06,166 You set it up though. 2778 01:32:06,433 --> 01:32:07,433 We got it, we got there. 2779 01:32:08,300 --> 01:32:09,133 You gotta finish it. 2780 01:32:09,433 --> 01:32:09,633 Anthem. 2781 01:32:11,266 --> 01:32:11,800 Anthem is dying. 2782 01:32:12,366 --> 01:32:13,233 Not only is it dying, 2783 01:32:13,233 --> 01:32:14,133 it's going to be dead. 2784 01:32:14,833 --> 01:32:16,466 And while StopKillingGames is still 2785 01:32:16,466 --> 01:32:18,000 raging on in the EU, 2786 01:32:18,866 --> 01:32:19,633 shout out to Ross. 2787 01:32:20,733 --> 01:32:22,300 We had him on, off the 2788 01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:23,533 console at some point in time. 2789 01:32:25,166 --> 01:32:26,399 I mean, the truth is 2790 01:32:26,399 --> 01:32:28,366 legal proceedings are slow. 2791 01:32:28,733 --> 01:32:30,899 The speed of litigation is insanely slow 2792 01:32:31,533 --> 01:32:32,533 and they're gonna kill 2793 01:32:32,533 --> 01:32:37,133 Anthem in like January the 12th. 2794 01:32:37,333 --> 01:32:38,500 Unless the law passes 2795 01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:39,933 super fast right now, 2796 01:32:40,199 --> 01:32:41,866 there's no way we can save Anthem, 2797 01:32:42,366 --> 01:32:43,266 officially speaking. 2798 01:32:44,733 --> 01:32:47,899 Yeah, and would it even affect that much? 2799 01:32:47,899 --> 01:32:49,033 Cause I don't think it's retroactive. 2800 01:32:49,566 --> 01:32:50,399 So it's already, like 2801 01:32:50,399 --> 01:32:51,333 it'd only be for games 2802 01:32:51,333 --> 01:32:52,533 that are coming out, I think. 2803 01:32:53,766 --> 01:32:55,300 I always imagined there would be games 2804 01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:56,366 that are still in service 2805 01:32:56,366 --> 01:32:59,100 when the law comes into play. 2806 01:32:59,100 --> 01:32:59,933 So if you say Anthem 2807 01:32:59,933 --> 01:33:01,866 were to still be around 2808 01:33:01,866 --> 01:33:04,100 by the time StopKillingGames becomes law, 2809 01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,433 then I would imagine Anthem would be 2810 01:33:06,433 --> 01:33:08,266 subject to said laws. 2811 01:33:10,533 --> 01:33:11,500 I don't know. 2812 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:11,933 I don't know. 2813 01:33:11,933 --> 01:33:13,633 I'm not an expert on the law. 2814 01:33:15,300 --> 01:33:16,300 It would be nice though. 2815 01:33:16,300 --> 01:33:16,833 It's a good sentiment. 2816 01:33:17,333 --> 01:33:19,066 I'm just thinking about, sorry, 2817 01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:21,266 I kind of want to try Anthem now. 2818 01:33:21,266 --> 01:33:21,933 Well, you got... 2819 01:33:22,466 --> 01:33:23,366 That it's gonna be rare. 2820 01:33:23,399 --> 01:33:26,133 Well, you got nine or eight days. 2821 01:33:26,866 --> 01:33:27,766 I don't own it. 2822 01:33:27,966 --> 01:33:28,366 How do you buy it? 2823 01:33:28,366 --> 01:33:29,800 Oh shoot, you can't. 2824 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,199 Oh, you can't buy it. 2825 01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:31,800 That's right. 2826 01:33:33,333 --> 01:33:33,933 Oh, I don't know. 2827 01:33:33,933 --> 01:33:34,533 Can you pirate it? 2828 01:33:36,733 --> 01:33:37,066 I don't know. 2829 01:33:37,633 --> 01:33:38,866 I mean, that would probably be the bit. 2830 01:33:38,866 --> 01:33:40,033 I'm not gonna mention that here. 2831 01:33:40,866 --> 01:33:42,866 Produce a playable game 2832 01:33:42,866 --> 01:33:44,033 after they shut down the servers. 2833 01:33:44,433 --> 01:33:47,033 Well, I mean, it really depends on 2834 01:33:47,133 --> 01:33:48,166 if people can make it 2835 01:33:48,166 --> 01:33:49,833 private server for Anthem or not. 2836 01:33:50,666 --> 01:33:50,866 Yeah. 2837 01:33:51,633 --> 01:33:53,133 You can reverse the engineer probably, 2838 01:33:53,133 --> 01:33:53,966 but do people want to tell? 2839 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,100 Well, I mean, someone should. 2840 01:33:58,399 --> 01:33:59,100 Well, is Anthem? 2841 01:33:59,633 --> 01:34:01,233 Anthem's not only online, right? 2842 01:34:01,533 --> 01:34:03,100 Like in the sense of, it's a single 2843 01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:03,866 player game, isn't it? 2844 01:34:03,866 --> 01:34:07,066 It's an always online multiplayer, like, 2845 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,100 looter shooter. 2846 01:34:08,133 --> 01:34:08,966 It's an always online multiplayer. 2847 01:34:09,033 --> 01:34:10,133 With like Iron Man suits. 2848 01:34:11,233 --> 01:34:12,533 I played the beta for it. 2849 01:34:12,533 --> 01:34:13,833 It was actually pretty fun. 2850 01:34:14,566 --> 01:34:15,466 The flying especially. 2851 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:19,899 Yeah, I think, honestly, 2852 01:34:19,899 --> 01:34:20,633 this is one of those takes 2853 01:34:20,633 --> 01:34:21,266 where if they would 2854 01:34:21,266 --> 01:34:22,500 have done a No Man's Sky 2855 01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:23,600 and gone back and like 2856 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:24,533 got a lot of feedback, 2857 01:34:24,533 --> 01:34:25,466 I'm like, hey, we're gonna fix it. 2858 01:34:25,466 --> 01:34:26,033 It's gonna give us two 2859 01:34:26,033 --> 01:34:27,066 years, we're gonna fix it. 2860 01:34:27,466 --> 01:34:28,266 I think they would have 2861 01:34:28,266 --> 01:34:30,199 had something, but nah. 2862 01:34:30,233 --> 01:34:32,100 Yeah, they tried one 2863 01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:34,133 update to like one Hail Mary 2864 01:34:34,133 --> 01:34:35,100 after they fixed the game, 2865 01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,533 and then they just kind of abandoned it. 2866 01:34:38,433 --> 01:34:39,233 It was a really bad 2867 01:34:39,233 --> 01:34:40,333 Hail Mary because it was, 2868 01:34:41,633 --> 01:34:42,333 like they thought they 2869 01:34:42,333 --> 01:34:43,433 could fix it all in like what, 2870 01:34:43,666 --> 01:34:44,899 couple months or something like that. 2871 01:34:44,933 --> 01:34:45,399 I don't know. 2872 01:34:46,433 --> 01:34:47,266 Wow, look at that face. 2873 01:34:47,266 --> 01:34:48,366 I love this. It takes time. 2874 01:34:49,333 --> 01:34:50,466 (laughing) It's perfect. 2875 01:34:52,266 --> 01:34:55,100 This has like essence of 2876 01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:56,266 like Mass Effect Andromeda. 2877 01:34:57,633 --> 01:34:59,033 Like my face is tired face. 2878 01:34:59,600 --> 01:34:59,800 Really? 2879 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,566 I don't know, I feel like I've seen a 2880 01:35:02,566 --> 01:35:04,300 face like that, but. 2881 01:35:04,333 --> 01:35:05,899 Well, I mean, it's just 2882 01:35:05,899 --> 01:35:07,466 uncanny to me a little bit. 2883 01:35:07,733 --> 01:35:08,733 Like there's something strange. 2884 01:35:09,333 --> 01:35:10,033 Like I think it's 2885 01:35:10,033 --> 01:35:11,966 like the quality of the, 2886 01:35:12,166 --> 01:35:13,566 like the pores of the skin 2887 01:35:13,566 --> 01:35:14,733 look just weirdly detailed. 2888 01:35:15,066 --> 01:35:15,800 A little too realistic. 2889 01:35:16,966 --> 01:35:18,699 I'm thinking this is our next thump. 2890 01:35:18,766 --> 01:35:19,966 He's gonna be on our next thumbnail, 2891 01:35:20,366 --> 01:35:21,466 whoever that character is. 2892 01:35:22,266 --> 01:35:22,466 Absolutely. 2893 01:35:23,966 --> 01:35:24,800 That was a good image. 2894 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:25,266 You're a gamer. 2895 01:35:25,633 --> 01:35:27,133 Good, props on you for getting that. 2896 01:35:28,533 --> 01:35:29,766 But dang, man. 2897 01:35:33,766 --> 01:35:35,333 I think that it's, 2898 01:35:36,066 --> 01:35:37,566 like stop killing games. 2899 01:35:37,566 --> 01:35:38,666 I'm totally for it. 2900 01:35:39,033 --> 01:35:41,366 Like it's the law that if 2901 01:35:41,366 --> 01:35:43,866 you produce a game like this 2902 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,166 going forward that is only online, 2903 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,300 you have to have a plan 2904 01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:51,566 in place for the community 2905 01:35:51,566 --> 01:35:53,433 to take up the stewardship 2906 01:35:53,433 --> 01:35:55,533 of the online servers, right? 2907 01:35:55,833 --> 01:35:56,033 Right. 2908 01:35:57,100 --> 01:36:00,433 In some way, that just makes sense. 2909 01:36:01,866 --> 01:36:03,199 Just if you're shipping it on Steam, 2910 01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:06,433 just ship a multiplayer client with it. 2911 01:36:06,433 --> 01:36:07,199 Like a lot of games do 2912 01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:08,800 it, or you can host it. 2913 01:36:09,233 --> 01:36:09,766 You can host the server. 2914 01:36:09,766 --> 01:36:11,366 But that's too much effort and resources 2915 01:36:12,333 --> 01:36:15,000 taken away from Mass Effect 5 from EA. 2916 01:36:16,066 --> 01:36:16,266 Yeah. 2917 01:36:16,533 --> 01:36:18,633 Last week I published an article 2918 01:36:18,766 --> 01:36:20,833 about the history of 2919 01:36:20,833 --> 01:36:21,833 Unreal Tournament, right? 2920 01:36:22,533 --> 01:36:25,800 And one of the things about UT is that 2921 01:36:26,866 --> 01:36:28,399 because they had the master 2922 01:36:28,399 --> 01:36:29,833 server list and everything, 2923 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:31,733 the way it was built, 2924 01:36:31,966 --> 01:36:34,533 it was easy to set up 2925 01:36:34,533 --> 01:36:36,100 your own multiplayer server. 2926 01:36:36,566 --> 01:36:38,166 It was dedicated, it was private. 2927 01:36:38,666 --> 01:36:39,600 You could do it yourself. 2928 01:36:40,266 --> 01:36:44,733 And then when Epic decided 2929 01:36:44,733 --> 01:36:45,733 they weren't gonna host the 2930 01:36:45,733 --> 01:36:47,133 master server list anymore, 2931 01:36:47,766 --> 01:36:48,600 the community was able 2932 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:49,833 to take up the thing, 2933 01:36:50,066 --> 01:36:51,699 change one line in the 2934 01:36:51,699 --> 01:36:53,699 config file, and then boom, 2935 01:36:53,733 --> 01:36:55,366 now the community runs 2936 01:36:55,366 --> 01:36:56,266 a master server list. 2937 01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:57,533 It's simple. 2938 01:36:58,133 --> 01:36:59,566 And the only reason 2939 01:36:59,566 --> 01:37:00,766 that they're not doing it 2940 01:37:00,766 --> 01:37:02,066 in these games is 2941 01:37:02,066 --> 01:37:04,033 because the profit incentive 2942 01:37:04,466 --> 01:37:07,366 to keep it locked down is 2943 01:37:07,366 --> 01:37:09,433 greater than the technical debt 2944 01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:11,633 of maintaining a config file. 2945 01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:15,166 It's proprietary software. 2946 01:37:15,466 --> 01:37:16,633 They think they have something special, 2947 01:37:16,633 --> 01:37:18,733 which is the stupidest thing a lot. 2948 01:37:18,933 --> 01:37:19,866 It's just the stupidest thing. 2949 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:21,466 They're not special, 2950 01:37:21,666 --> 01:37:22,633 but yeah, it is different. 2951 01:37:22,833 --> 01:37:25,166 I will say hosting an Unreal game 2952 01:37:26,033 --> 01:37:27,500 at a master list is very different 2953 01:37:27,500 --> 01:37:29,633 than a very complicated 2954 01:37:29,633 --> 01:37:30,633 online multiplayer game 2955 01:37:30,633 --> 01:37:33,466 that has a lot of save states in it. 2956 01:37:34,166 --> 01:37:36,533 But they run it. 2957 01:37:36,533 --> 01:37:37,333 They run it, they 2958 01:37:37,333 --> 01:37:38,266 package it, they have it, 2959 01:37:38,333 --> 01:37:39,066 so it runs on multiple 2960 01:37:39,066 --> 01:37:40,333 servers, they could package it. 2961 01:37:41,066 --> 01:37:41,633 And they might have 2962 01:37:41,633 --> 01:37:42,466 to change a little bit, 2963 01:37:42,466 --> 01:37:43,733 but they could package it, I think. 2964 01:37:43,833 --> 01:37:44,566 It would be trivial. 2965 01:37:45,166 --> 01:37:46,266 They have to make it 2966 01:37:46,266 --> 01:37:49,433 deployable across Kubernetes 2967 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,899 or whatever they're using. 2968 01:37:52,466 --> 01:37:54,833 So it's not like they have one server 2969 01:37:54,833 --> 01:37:56,199 that services everyone. 2970 01:37:56,433 --> 01:37:58,666 They have to have dozens of servers 2971 01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:01,033 spread out across the entire world. 2972 01:38:01,266 --> 01:38:03,399 So it's not like this is impossible. 2973 01:38:04,133 --> 01:38:05,000 They've architected it. 2974 01:38:05,033 --> 01:38:06,600 That gets more complicated though. 2975 01:38:06,666 --> 01:38:07,133 That technically 2976 01:38:07,133 --> 01:38:08,199 complicates the whole thing. 2977 01:38:10,033 --> 01:38:11,500 If you can make it so 2978 01:38:11,500 --> 01:38:12,633 that it can only support, 2979 01:38:13,466 --> 01:38:15,500 let's say like 40 people, 2980 01:38:15,833 --> 01:38:16,500 and it's still gonna 2981 01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:17,433 eat up a lot of resources, 2982 01:38:18,566 --> 01:38:19,899 but if you have to make it 2983 01:38:19,899 --> 01:38:21,366 so it supports a lot more, 2984 01:38:22,066 --> 01:38:23,066 and then you have to, we're 2985 01:38:23,066 --> 01:38:23,933 talking about distribution, 2986 01:38:24,166 --> 01:38:24,800 we're talking about a lot 2987 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,100 of server configurations 2988 01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:28,533 and stuff that can get more complicated. 2989 01:38:28,533 --> 01:38:29,533 They don't have to, 2990 01:38:29,533 --> 01:38:30,666 but I have a feeling that 2991 01:38:32,433 --> 01:38:33,466 I'd like to see that server code 2992 01:38:35,033 --> 01:38:35,866 before I make a final judgment. 2993 01:38:37,233 --> 01:38:37,433 Whatever. 2994 01:38:37,699 --> 01:38:39,966 I don't, I just, EA 2995 01:38:39,966 --> 01:38:41,333 could say whatever they want, 2996 01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:42,466 and I wouldn't believe them. 2997 01:38:42,833 --> 01:38:43,833 So, like. 2998 01:38:44,766 --> 01:38:45,566 No, they can. 2999 01:38:46,333 --> 01:38:49,133 But yeah, once you start to talk about 3000 01:38:49,133 --> 01:38:50,066 distributed systems, 3001 01:38:50,066 --> 01:38:51,199 it gets a lot more complicated 3002 01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,333 to run it as an individual. 3003 01:38:54,766 --> 01:38:55,466 They could still do it. 3004 01:38:55,466 --> 01:38:56,333 I really think they could. 3005 01:38:56,333 --> 01:38:58,166 They could probably have one developer 3006 01:38:58,366 --> 01:38:59,333 that's a backend developer 3007 01:38:59,733 --> 01:39:00,466 probably package 3008 01:39:00,466 --> 01:39:01,833 something up and make it work 3009 01:39:02,133 --> 01:39:03,300 out of like a month's worth of work. 3010 01:39:03,333 --> 01:39:04,166 The point I was trying to 3011 01:39:04,166 --> 01:39:05,566 make with that was that, 3012 01:39:05,933 --> 01:39:07,333 not that it like having a distributed 3013 01:39:07,333 --> 01:39:08,533 system makes it easy, 3014 01:39:08,533 --> 01:39:09,866 but it's like, it's 3015 01:39:09,866 --> 01:39:11,800 not like when you connect 3016 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,433 with your Anthem client on your computer 3017 01:39:14,733 --> 01:39:15,633 that you're connecting to this 3018 01:39:15,633 --> 01:39:17,000 distributed network of games. 3019 01:39:17,266 --> 01:39:18,766 You're connecting to one server 3020 01:39:19,399 --> 01:39:21,899 that is running their server code. 3021 01:39:22,433 --> 01:39:24,333 So that's what I'm trying to say is like, 3022 01:39:24,833 --> 01:39:26,666 they have to build this in 3023 01:39:26,666 --> 01:39:28,300 a way that they can deploy 3024 01:39:28,733 --> 01:39:31,033 multiple instances of this server code. 3025 01:39:31,366 --> 01:39:33,766 So it's not like they can't just give out 3026 01:39:33,766 --> 01:39:38,899 that the server application, right? 3027 01:39:38,899 --> 01:39:40,033 Like they can do that, 3028 01:39:40,500 --> 01:39:41,300 but they've architect, 3029 01:39:41,533 --> 01:39:42,233 they've engineered it in 3030 01:39:42,233 --> 01:39:43,666 a way that precludes them 3031 01:39:43,666 --> 01:39:44,633 from doing it for, 3032 01:39:44,633 --> 01:39:46,300 you know, money reasons. 3033 01:39:46,300 --> 01:39:47,266 And that's ignorant. 3034 01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,466 I am definitely going to 3035 01:39:51,466 --> 01:39:52,766 err on the side of both. 3036 01:39:53,066 --> 01:39:54,000 I think they definitely 3037 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,033 don't want it, it's proprietary. 3038 01:39:55,300 --> 01:39:56,566 They don't want to have to deal with it. 3039 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:57,733 I also think it's gonna 3040 01:39:57,733 --> 01:40:01,033 be, could be more complicated 3041 01:40:01,733 --> 01:40:02,666 than just easily 3042 01:40:02,666 --> 01:40:06,133 bundling it, but I don't know. 3043 01:40:06,366 --> 01:40:06,866 And I don't think 3044 01:40:06,866 --> 01:40:07,766 anyone's gonna know until 3045 01:40:08,066 --> 01:40:09,533 they're forced to reveal it. 3046 01:40:09,833 --> 01:40:11,066 So I'm all for 3047 01:40:11,066 --> 01:40:12,366 transparency, that's for sure. 3048 01:40:13,066 --> 01:40:13,733 So I wanna know. 3049 01:40:14,399 --> 01:40:14,600 Regulation. 3050 01:40:16,399 --> 01:40:16,633 Yeah. 3051 01:40:17,733 --> 01:40:19,399 I wanna regulate, I 3052 01:40:19,399 --> 01:40:20,266 want it to be transparent. 3053 01:40:20,266 --> 01:40:21,766 I want some transparency with this stuff, 3054 01:40:22,266 --> 01:40:23,800 parts because I'm also interested in it. 3055 01:40:24,033 --> 01:40:25,100 Like it'd be fun to see 3056 01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:26,266 how they can do it too. 3057 01:40:27,533 --> 01:40:31,666 Man, it's, honestly, 3058 01:40:32,033 --> 01:40:33,300 man, I'm not even sure. 3059 01:40:33,433 --> 01:40:34,600 EA remembers that it's gonna 3060 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,033 be shut down in like a few days. 3061 01:40:36,466 --> 01:40:37,866 So we're gonna have to 3062 01:40:37,866 --> 01:40:38,899 pay attention next week 3063 01:40:38,899 --> 01:40:40,366 to see if EA makes a statement. 3064 01:40:42,333 --> 01:40:43,000 That'd be funny, they 3065 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:43,766 forget to turn it off. 3066 01:40:43,766 --> 01:40:45,500 They're like, it wasn't, like our servers 3067 01:40:45,666 --> 01:40:46,800 weren't getting hit so hard. 3068 01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,333 Like we just, we forgot about it. 3069 01:40:48,733 --> 01:40:50,100 I mean, truth be told, I mean, 3070 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:51,633 I would like the end 3071 01:40:51,633 --> 01:40:52,600 of them to stay alive. 3072 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:53,233 I've played the beta. 3073 01:40:53,566 --> 01:40:57,033 It has, the gameplay loop is pretty fun, 3074 01:40:57,300 --> 01:40:57,966 all things considered. 3075 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,033 I don't think anyone's really 3076 01:41:01,033 --> 01:41:02,500 playing it for the most part. 3077 01:41:02,500 --> 01:41:03,633 If there's anyone playing it now, 3078 01:41:03,633 --> 01:41:04,133 it's because it's shut 3079 01:41:04,133 --> 01:41:04,866 down. Oh yeah, for sure. 3080 01:41:05,466 --> 01:41:08,866 I don't think they should be upheld 3081 01:41:09,033 --> 01:41:10,733 to hold those servers open 3082 01:41:11,066 --> 01:41:12,899 if it's just eating tons of resources. 3083 01:41:14,166 --> 01:41:14,966 AI needs those 3084 01:41:14,966 --> 01:41:16,033 resources, by the way, guys. 3085 01:41:16,433 --> 01:41:19,399 But they need to give us 3086 01:41:19,399 --> 01:41:21,366 the ability to self-host. 3087 01:41:22,133 --> 01:41:23,766 Flat out, they have to do that. 3088 01:41:23,766 --> 01:41:25,533 Like games have to start doing that. 3089 01:41:26,066 --> 01:41:29,566 Yeah, so if there's any 3090 01:41:29,566 --> 01:41:31,066 enterprise in indie developers 3091 01:41:31,566 --> 01:41:33,166 that wanna take inspiration from a game 3092 01:41:33,166 --> 01:41:33,899 that no longer 3093 01:41:33,899 --> 01:41:37,133 exists, Anthem is your game. 3094 01:41:38,033 --> 01:41:39,833 Someone should make Anthem an indie 3095 01:41:40,533 --> 01:41:42,600 and not like a looter shooter with a 3096 01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:43,666 grindy RPG elements. 3097 01:41:45,566 --> 01:41:46,733 There's gotta be one already, right? 3098 01:41:46,766 --> 01:41:47,833 Not that I've seen. I don't know. 3099 01:41:49,733 --> 01:41:50,566 Maybe if some indie 3100 01:41:50,566 --> 01:41:52,533 developer like contact system 3101 01:41:52,533 --> 01:41:54,066 lets us know, "Oh, we're 3102 01:41:54,066 --> 01:41:56,566 secretly making an Anthem game, 3103 01:41:58,066 --> 01:41:59,566 but it's not a live service game." 3104 01:41:59,766 --> 01:42:00,800 I'd be down to check it out. 3105 01:42:02,433 --> 01:42:03,000 Well, it's not live 3106 01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:04,566 services, it's online multiplayer. 3107 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,166 No, Anthem is a live service game. 3108 01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:10,433 Oh, so you don't play with other people. 3109 01:42:10,433 --> 01:42:11,866 No, you play with other people. 3110 01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:14,966 And it's also online only. 3111 01:42:14,966 --> 01:42:15,800 It's online only. 3112 01:42:17,966 --> 01:42:18,833 Well, it's like Destiny. 3113 01:42:21,266 --> 01:42:22,699 Well, okay, then yeah, 3114 01:42:23,333 --> 01:42:24,899 that's the type of live service 3115 01:42:24,899 --> 01:42:27,766 that makes sense though, I guess. 3116 01:42:27,766 --> 01:42:28,733 Well, it is single player. 3117 01:42:29,899 --> 01:42:31,366 It makes sense to a point 3118 01:42:31,366 --> 01:42:33,899 because you are in the main world 3119 01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:35,800 or like the lobbies 3120 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,333 around a lot of people. 3121 01:42:37,333 --> 01:42:38,666 You have to have that be a live service. 3122 01:42:39,133 --> 01:42:39,833 When you go and play the 3123 01:42:39,833 --> 01:42:41,533 single player portion of it, 3124 01:42:42,033 --> 01:42:43,033 that doesn't make it, 3125 01:42:43,066 --> 01:42:46,066 it shouldn't have to be online only. 3126 01:42:46,466 --> 01:42:47,133 It's complicated. 3127 01:42:48,133 --> 01:42:50,233 I think there's a case for live service 3128 01:42:50,233 --> 01:42:51,033 games in my opinion. 3129 01:42:51,366 --> 01:42:53,266 I just don't think it's for most of them. 3130 01:42:54,366 --> 01:42:54,866 Makes sense. 3131 01:42:58,600 --> 01:42:59,733 So, yeah. 3132 01:43:00,366 --> 01:43:00,566 Well. 3133 01:43:00,966 --> 01:43:02,133 Might be a hot take for me, but. 3134 01:43:02,166 --> 01:43:05,366 Guys, I think yet another 3135 01:43:05,366 --> 01:43:06,933 depressing week of news, 3136 01:43:07,533 --> 01:43:08,466 tech disasters. 3137 01:43:09,066 --> 01:43:10,566 Wow, what a great 2026. 3138 01:43:10,766 --> 01:43:14,266 2026 is gonna be like this. 3139 01:43:14,266 --> 01:43:15,166 So we got to bring a 3140 01:43:15,166 --> 01:43:16,399 lot of good stuff too. 3141 01:43:17,466 --> 01:43:20,166 Like steam frame, steam machine. 3142 01:43:20,966 --> 01:43:22,199 We'll have a lot of good stuff. 3143 01:43:22,199 --> 01:43:26,333 It's just gonna be enhanced to be better 3144 01:43:26,433 --> 01:43:28,366 because the state of PC 3145 01:43:28,366 --> 01:43:29,366 gaming is gonna be worse. 3146 01:43:29,966 --> 01:43:32,233 So we'll have to kind 3147 01:43:32,233 --> 01:43:33,166 of do some contrast, 3148 01:43:33,366 --> 01:43:34,466 like look at this horror show, 3149 01:43:34,466 --> 01:43:35,666 but at least you have the steam machine 3150 01:43:35,666 --> 01:43:36,500 that you can rely on. 3151 01:43:37,133 --> 01:43:39,633 Well, I mean, yeah, that's 3152 01:43:39,633 --> 01:43:40,433 what you can look forward 3153 01:43:40,566 --> 01:43:41,433 to in 2026. 3154 01:43:41,666 --> 01:43:42,966 We're gonna have the tech disasters 3155 01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:44,833 and we're gonna have the good news. 3156 01:43:45,533 --> 01:43:47,733 So if you like what you're hearing here, 3157 01:43:47,733 --> 01:43:49,566 you can subscribe to our channel. 3158 01:43:49,566 --> 01:43:51,266 You can subscribe to our RSS feed. 3159 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:52,800 You can become a patron 3160 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,166 and listen to the bonus show 3161 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,533 where we talked about stuff that was way 3162 01:43:56,533 --> 01:43:57,466 too hot for YouTube, 3163 01:43:58,266 --> 01:43:59,933 like way too hot for YouTube. 3164 01:44:00,466 --> 01:44:02,266 So Brock. 3165 01:44:03,266 --> 01:44:03,733 That sounds horrible. 3166 01:44:03,933 --> 01:44:06,933 Brock hot is a new, that's the new slur. 3167 01:44:07,766 --> 01:44:08,433 Slur, no. 3168 01:44:09,433 --> 01:44:09,833 Slur. 3169 01:44:10,833 --> 01:44:13,066 That's the new slop, 3170 01:44:13,066 --> 01:44:13,899 I was gonna say slop. 3171 01:44:15,133 --> 01:44:15,566 Oh, okay. 3172 01:44:15,566 --> 01:44:16,333 You're not gonna call it 3173 01:44:16,333 --> 01:44:17,500 Grock of Clinker or something. 3174 01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:19,266 Well, yeah, that's the easy one. 3175 01:44:20,500 --> 01:44:22,233 Anyway, thank you all for watching. 3176 01:44:22,466 --> 01:44:23,166 Thank you, James. 3177 01:44:23,166 --> 01:44:23,666 Thank you, High Tech, 3178 01:44:23,666 --> 01:44:24,666 for being here, my friends. 3179 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:25,966 I have so much fun doing 3180 01:44:25,966 --> 01:44:26,766 this show with you guys. 3181 01:44:26,766 --> 01:44:27,233 Thank you. 3182 01:44:27,233 --> 01:44:28,533 Oh yeah, it's been a great time. 3183 01:44:29,300 --> 01:44:29,933 Yeah, and. 3184 01:44:30,399 --> 01:44:31,766 Oh yeah, another good year. 3185 01:44:32,533 --> 01:44:33,466 2025, that was the first 3186 01:44:33,466 --> 01:44:35,466 full year of us doing a show 3187 01:44:36,033 --> 01:44:38,266 and we're gonna do even more this year. 3188 01:44:39,366 --> 01:44:40,533 Yeah, we should do a 3189 01:44:40,533 --> 01:44:42,133 special Steam Machine episode 3190 01:44:42,233 --> 01:44:43,100 once that releases. 3191 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:44,133 Absolutely. 3192 01:44:44,766 --> 01:44:45,699 Valve contact us. 3193 01:44:47,866 --> 01:44:48,933 Yes, Valve, please. 3194 01:44:49,833 --> 01:44:51,366 All right, we'll see you guys next week. 3195 01:44:51,833 --> 01:44:52,600 All right, take care. 3196 01:44:54,033 --> 01:44:54,833 Yes, later guys. 3197 01:44:55,366 --> 01:44:55,833 Peace out.