1 00:00:00,366 --> 00:00:03,266 You know, all live stream- if just 2 00:00:03,266 --> 00:00:04,833 someone wants to come here and we go to 3 00:00:04,833 --> 00:00:06,166 Kanban, uh, together, 4 00:00:06,433 --> 00:00:07,466 or, uh, Banchan? 5 00:00:08,133 --> 00:00:08,566 Banchan. 6 00:00:08,566 --> 00:00:09,166 I can't find enough. 7 00:00:09,466 --> 00:00:10,633 That's a- that's a completely different 8 00:00:10,633 --> 00:00:11,366 thing I'm not gonna get to. 9 00:00:11,633 --> 00:00:14,033 But Banchan, uh, yeah. 10 00:00:15,366 --> 00:00:16,033 All live stream that. 11 00:00:16,899 --> 00:00:17,466 Do you want to get 12 00:00:17,466 --> 00:00:18,166 some good fried chicken? 13 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:18,833 Hell yeah. 14 00:00:18,833 --> 00:00:20,166 I mean, there's better- there's better 15 00:00:20,166 --> 00:00:21,133 than Banchan, but yeah. 16 00:00:21,133 --> 00:00:24,399 What if we name our company, you know, 17 00:00:24,933 --> 00:00:25,733 Korean Fried Chicken 18 00:00:25,733 --> 00:00:27,500 Incorporated, and then we deep 19 00:00:27,533 --> 00:00:32,133 fake ourselves having Banchan or- or 20 00:00:32,133 --> 00:00:32,866 Korean Fried Chicken 21 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,033 Incorporated chicken with what's 22 00:00:35,033 --> 00:00:35,433 his name? 23 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:36,433 Jensen Wong. 24 00:00:36,666 --> 00:00:38,666 Then we could artificially pump up our 25 00:00:38,666 --> 00:00:40,166 stock prices, and he's 26 00:00:40,166 --> 00:00:41,733 proven that it's okay to 27 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:42,133 do that. 28 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:43,733 So let's do it. 29 00:00:44,166 --> 00:00:46,133 Mr. Adam Jensen Wong himself. 30 00:00:46,566 --> 00:00:47,833 I wonder if it would work. 31 00:00:48,966 --> 00:00:50,233 I don't want to incorporate. 32 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,966 Or no, incorporating is fine. 33 00:00:52,966 --> 00:00:54,766 I don't want to, uh, go public. 34 00:00:54,833 --> 00:00:56,466 We'll just say we went 35 00:00:56,466 --> 00:00:57,966 public, and then don't. 36 00:00:58,866 --> 00:01:01,399 We- yeah, we say we went public to pump 37 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:03,666 up our artificial public 38 00:01:03,666 --> 00:01:06,633 price, and everything's- 39 00:01:06,833 --> 00:01:07,500 nothing makes sense 40 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:08,766 anymore so that we can do that. 41 00:01:09,433 --> 00:01:10,066 None of this is gonna 42 00:01:10,066 --> 00:01:11,200 work unless we do a crypto. 43 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:11,666 We're gonna have to do 44 00:01:11,666 --> 00:01:12,566 an off-the-console crypto. 45 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:13,966 Oh right, yes, okay. 46 00:01:13,966 --> 00:01:16,500 We do a crypto- a publicly traded crypto. 47 00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:18,033 Yeah, okay. 48 00:01:18,033 --> 00:01:18,833 It's all coming together. 49 00:01:19,366 --> 00:01:20,133 Okay, yeah. 50 00:01:20,333 --> 00:01:21,500 I like this idea now. 51 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:22,700 At least it doesn't- it's 52 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:23,766 not gonna take a lot of work. 53 00:01:28,833 --> 00:01:29,433 Welcome to 54 00:01:29,433 --> 00:01:32,666 off-the-console, the most festive podcast. 55 00:01:32,933 --> 00:01:34,566 It's all about Christmas gaming, 56 00:01:34,866 --> 00:01:36,533 Christmas tech news, and 57 00:01:36,533 --> 00:01:37,866 anything holidays related. 58 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:40,133 This week we're covering the biggest 59 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:42,000 news, including, uh, 60 00:01:42,766 --> 00:01:44,366 Claire obscure being removed 61 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,400 for, uh, horrific AI usage. 62 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:51,666 And then we also have, uh, Nintendo's, 63 00:01:51,666 --> 00:01:53,433 uh, Nitrogen, Nvidia 64 00:01:53,433 --> 00:01:54,633 and Shittify's, everything 65 00:01:54,633 --> 00:01:56,933 once more, and so much more. 66 00:01:57,366 --> 00:02:00,366 My name is James, also the brink or games 67 00:02:00,366 --> 00:02:01,133 revealed, however you 68 00:02:01,133 --> 00:02:02,366 want to refer to me, 69 00:02:02,366 --> 00:02:02,766 I guess. 70 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:05,299 And I am joined today with 71 00:02:05,299 --> 00:02:07,433 Gardner and with Hi-Tech. 72 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:09,766 Thanks for being here, guys. 73 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:11,766 Wait, did you say Nintendo, Nitrogen? 74 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:15,566 Uh, yeah, I did. 75 00:02:15,833 --> 00:02:17,533 Nvidia and Nitrogen, it's, you know, 76 00:02:17,833 --> 00:02:18,833 people will come for it. 77 00:02:18,833 --> 00:02:20,000 It's the same thing. 78 00:02:20,099 --> 00:02:21,733 They're all the same 79 00:02:21,733 --> 00:02:23,099 company at this point. 80 00:02:23,933 --> 00:02:25,066 So yeah, I was 81 00:02:25,066 --> 00:02:26,733 misreading two different titles. 82 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:29,633 So welcome, guys. 83 00:02:29,633 --> 00:02:29,833 Welcome. 84 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,533 Let's get into what we've been doing this 85 00:02:32,533 --> 00:02:33,933 week, what we've been playing. 86 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,666 Hi-Tech. 87 00:02:36,566 --> 00:02:37,533 What have you been doing, Hi-Tech? 88 00:02:38,133 --> 00:02:38,500 Arc readers. 89 00:02:39,866 --> 00:02:40,933 You've been playing Arc Raiders. 90 00:02:40,933 --> 00:02:41,199 Okay. 91 00:02:41,866 --> 00:02:42,266 Yes. 92 00:02:43,033 --> 00:02:43,966 So here's my thing 93 00:02:43,966 --> 00:02:45,133 with extraction shooters. 94 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:46,966 A lot of people really don't like the 95 00:02:46,966 --> 00:02:50,166 whole PVP aspect, but I live in it. 96 00:02:51,133 --> 00:02:52,133 I revel in it. 97 00:02:52,866 --> 00:02:53,833 I know plenty of people 98 00:02:53,833 --> 00:02:54,933 that love the PVP aspect. 99 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:55,833 I hate it. 100 00:02:56,833 --> 00:02:58,199 But like, here's my thing that people are 101 00:02:58,199 --> 00:02:59,166 like yearning for like a 102 00:02:59,166 --> 00:03:00,466 single player extraction 103 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:03,066 shooter, but like, I don't know if I 104 00:03:03,066 --> 00:03:04,666 fully see the appeal in a 105 00:03:04,666 --> 00:03:06,166 single player extraction 106 00:03:06,233 --> 00:03:08,800 shooter, where there's no other players 107 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,900 that could vulture like 108 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:12,566 your gear, or in that case, 109 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:13,466 me being the vulture. 110 00:03:17,866 --> 00:03:19,866 I just, yeah, I like to go in. 111 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:20,966 I mean, I like the 112 00:03:20,966 --> 00:03:23,466 idea, I guess, how I do it. 113 00:03:23,466 --> 00:03:25,533 I don't know how you do it from a non-PVP 114 00:03:25,533 --> 00:03:27,033 standpoint of whoever 115 00:03:27,033 --> 00:03:30,333 gets the boss or the 116 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:32,066 loot or whatever gets their first kind of 117 00:03:32,066 --> 00:03:33,533 gets it or whoever can 118 00:03:33,533 --> 00:03:36,166 like destroy the boss 119 00:03:36,166 --> 00:03:37,166 first gets it. 120 00:03:37,766 --> 00:03:40,666 It's hard though to get that without 121 00:03:40,666 --> 00:03:42,099 having the PVP aspect of 122 00:03:42,099 --> 00:03:43,066 taking out enemies that 123 00:03:43,066 --> 00:03:43,900 are going for it too. 124 00:03:45,766 --> 00:03:48,099 But I get tired of playing games where 125 00:03:48,099 --> 00:03:48,733 I'm like, okay, if you 126 00:03:48,733 --> 00:03:49,466 want to take me out because 127 00:03:49,466 --> 00:03:52,033 you want to get the boss, once again, 128 00:03:52,033 --> 00:03:53,666 I've only played one extraction shooter. 129 00:03:55,166 --> 00:03:59,433 But I do get tired of people just going 130 00:03:59,433 --> 00:04:00,466 around sniping people 131 00:04:00,466 --> 00:04:01,533 just because they can snipe 132 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:02,933 and not actually do the objectives. 133 00:04:04,466 --> 00:04:07,466 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of how a lot of 134 00:04:07,466 --> 00:04:08,599 games are, truth be told. 135 00:04:09,466 --> 00:04:12,466 Even games that are very, even like 136 00:04:12,466 --> 00:04:13,833 clearly objective based 137 00:04:13,833 --> 00:04:15,233 games like Overwatch, where 138 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,633 the objective is front and center. 139 00:04:18,433 --> 00:04:20,366 And what you're supposed to do is on the 140 00:04:20,366 --> 00:04:22,033 screen, it's hard to miss. 141 00:04:22,966 --> 00:04:24,600 And people just go off and just kill 142 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,566 things because they can. 143 00:04:26,466 --> 00:04:28,766 I do consider that a little different 144 00:04:28,766 --> 00:04:29,733 because I mean, you're 145 00:04:29,733 --> 00:04:30,500 just going to fail at that 146 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:30,766 point. 147 00:04:30,766 --> 00:04:31,633 You're not going to succeed. 148 00:04:32,433 --> 00:04:33,866 Maybe a high kill count, maybe. 149 00:04:34,166 --> 00:04:35,966 And sometimes it's good to have some 150 00:04:35,966 --> 00:04:37,366 people on your team that do that. 151 00:04:39,433 --> 00:04:44,866 But an extraction shooter is, it's so 152 00:04:44,866 --> 00:04:45,466 weird because 153 00:04:45,466 --> 00:04:46,933 technically you're supposed to have 154 00:04:47,066 --> 00:04:48,166 goals, you're then you're supposed to 155 00:04:48,166 --> 00:04:49,766 extract with your loot you get. 156 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:51,833 And in a lot of them, they have 157 00:04:51,833 --> 00:04:53,000 permadeath where your 158 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,966 character dies, then you have to 159 00:04:54,966 --> 00:04:56,833 create a whole new character once again. 160 00:04:58,399 --> 00:04:59,800 If your whole objective is to go in and 161 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,600 just kill people and 162 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,733 then extract, I don't know, 163 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:05,466 it's frustrating to me because I want to 164 00:05:05,466 --> 00:05:08,166 be focused on the goal, not 165 00:05:08,166 --> 00:05:11,233 killing people necessarily. 166 00:05:12,033 --> 00:05:12,533 I don't know. 167 00:05:13,466 --> 00:05:13,933 Sorry, yeah. 168 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:14,866 Hi, Tech. 169 00:05:14,866 --> 00:05:15,766 Let's continue with the way. 170 00:05:16,266 --> 00:05:17,366 I don't know, but that's 171 00:05:17,366 --> 00:05:18,666 mostly what I've been doing. 172 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,300 The holidays is happening this week. 173 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:22,366 What's happened this week? 174 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:23,566 Good stuff. 175 00:05:24,366 --> 00:05:24,933 What do you guys get 176 00:05:24,933 --> 00:05:25,666 for Christmas though? 177 00:05:26,066 --> 00:05:26,533 By the way, I should 178 00:05:26,533 --> 00:05:27,433 probably share first. 179 00:05:27,833 --> 00:05:30,266 Yeah, I got some clothes and I got a 180 00:05:30,266 --> 00:05:33,333 board game called, I'm 181 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:33,933 trying to remember what 182 00:05:33,933 --> 00:05:34,399 it's called. 183 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:36,933 But essentially what you do is you have a 184 00:05:36,933 --> 00:05:38,500 grid that's full of like colors. 185 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:40,066 It looks like one of those Pantone, like 186 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:41,833 it looks almost like 187 00:05:41,833 --> 00:05:43,066 one of those Pantone like 188 00:05:43,833 --> 00:05:45,033 palette selector thingies. 189 00:05:45,533 --> 00:05:46,800 And then you basically have to select a 190 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,233 specific shade of color. 191 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,433 And it was actually 192 00:05:52,433 --> 00:05:53,866 pretty cool to play too. 193 00:05:54,233 --> 00:05:54,433 Absolutely. 194 00:05:55,133 --> 00:05:55,633 Hues and clues. 195 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:56,866 Hues and cues. 196 00:05:57,566 --> 00:05:58,199 Hues and cues. 197 00:05:58,866 --> 00:06:00,866 Oh, that's, oh man, 198 00:06:00,866 --> 00:06:02,033 that game is so much fun. 199 00:06:02,433 --> 00:06:03,133 Never played it. 200 00:06:03,133 --> 00:06:04,033 I've never heard of that. 201 00:06:04,233 --> 00:06:04,433 Interesting. 202 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:06,466 Yeah. 203 00:06:06,466 --> 00:06:09,000 So basically you get more points, the 204 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,133 more accurate you are 205 00:06:10,133 --> 00:06:12,433 with your guesses, but you 206 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:14,033 have to like, you have to play with other 207 00:06:14,033 --> 00:06:15,133 people and they have to 208 00:06:15,133 --> 00:06:16,466 like be able to describe 209 00:06:17,366 --> 00:06:18,866 what color they're talking about without 210 00:06:18,866 --> 00:06:21,266 telling you what color it actually is. 211 00:06:21,733 --> 00:06:22,533 What if you're color blind? 212 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:24,633 That makes it difficult. 213 00:06:25,899 --> 00:06:26,366 I don't know. 214 00:06:27,233 --> 00:06:27,866 Don't know. 215 00:06:28,133 --> 00:06:29,333 You definitely, okay. 216 00:06:29,833 --> 00:06:31,766 I played hues and cues at my friend's 217 00:06:31,766 --> 00:06:33,266 house, like for the first 218 00:06:33,266 --> 00:06:34,933 time like four weeks ago 219 00:06:34,933 --> 00:06:35,133 maybe. 220 00:06:35,733 --> 00:06:38,933 And I am like, I have like some color 221 00:06:38,933 --> 00:06:40,399 weirdness, not really 222 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:42,933 color blind, but I see a lot of 223 00:06:42,933 --> 00:06:44,199 reds as pinks and pinks 224 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:45,933 as red, which is strange. 225 00:06:45,933 --> 00:06:48,000 And a lot of like greens, it's hard for 226 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,033 me to distinguish between. 227 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,366 That's color blind. 228 00:06:50,766 --> 00:06:52,899 I think that's a form of color blindness. 229 00:06:53,633 --> 00:06:53,833 Yeah. 230 00:06:54,133 --> 00:06:55,933 So I was like looking at, I was like 231 00:06:55,933 --> 00:06:58,266 trying to describe like 232 00:06:58,266 --> 00:06:59,500 a reddish color and I was 233 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:02,366 like cherry and everyone was about like 234 00:07:02,366 --> 00:07:04,433 three or four columns to 235 00:07:04,433 --> 00:07:05,300 the right where they should 236 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:05,733 have been. 237 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:09,733 And yeah, it was not, it was not correct. 238 00:07:11,133 --> 00:07:11,533 Interesting. 239 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,133 Yeah. 240 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:12,933 But it's a fun game. 241 00:07:15,033 --> 00:07:15,733 Yeah, it sounds really fun. 242 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,100 I'm not great with colors. 243 00:07:17,133 --> 00:07:18,933 I don't think I have any color blind 244 00:07:18,933 --> 00:07:20,633 stuff, but like I'm 245 00:07:20,633 --> 00:07:21,733 just not great with colors. 246 00:07:23,033 --> 00:07:25,166 But I wonder if in that kind of context, 247 00:07:25,166 --> 00:07:26,766 if I would be a little bit better. 248 00:07:28,366 --> 00:07:28,699 Oh well. 249 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Yeah. 250 00:07:30,433 --> 00:07:32,333 Gardner, what have you, what'd you get? 251 00:07:32,333 --> 00:07:33,733 What have you been doing this week? 252 00:07:34,433 --> 00:07:34,666 Yeah. 253 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:37,933 So this week, I mean, it was Christmas, 254 00:07:37,933 --> 00:07:39,266 so I got a bunch of stuff. 255 00:07:40,466 --> 00:07:42,033 I got a couple new books. 256 00:07:42,233 --> 00:07:44,033 I'm really excited to read this, Legends 257 00:07:44,033 --> 00:07:45,866 of Localization, Earthbound. 258 00:07:46,733 --> 00:07:49,666 This is written by Clyde Mandolin, who's 259 00:07:49,666 --> 00:07:50,566 the guy who like 260 00:07:50,566 --> 00:07:53,366 translated Earthbound into 261 00:07:53,366 --> 00:07:53,699 English. 262 00:07:54,633 --> 00:07:55,666 Very excited to read that. 263 00:07:55,933 --> 00:07:57,300 I have to finish the other book that I 264 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:59,166 got though, which is 265 00:07:59,166 --> 00:08:03,266 Life After Cars, Freeing 266 00:08:03,266 --> 00:08:03,833 Ourself from the 267 00:08:03,833 --> 00:08:05,500 Tyranny of the Automobile. 268 00:08:06,266 --> 00:08:08,066 And I'm bringing that up 269 00:08:08,066 --> 00:08:09,866 because we just talked. 270 00:08:10,166 --> 00:08:11,166 That explains the bonus episode now. 271 00:08:11,899 --> 00:08:13,766 We just talked for at length about 272 00:08:13,766 --> 00:08:15,466 infrastructure and cars 273 00:08:15,466 --> 00:08:16,766 in the bonus episodes. 274 00:08:16,766 --> 00:08:17,533 You guys should go 275 00:08:17,533 --> 00:08:18,633 check that over on Patreon. 276 00:08:19,633 --> 00:08:21,500 It's an extended episode 277 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:23,866 and it's a really good one. 278 00:08:24,733 --> 00:08:26,466 And then I got to finish that book. 279 00:08:26,466 --> 00:08:27,233 I'm going to review both of 280 00:08:27,233 --> 00:08:28,933 these on the Bryant Review soon. 281 00:08:29,966 --> 00:08:32,600 And then my brother-in-law, Ish, he's my 282 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,433 girlfriend's brother, he 283 00:08:34,433 --> 00:08:37,100 bought me like $100 in Steam gift 284 00:08:37,166 --> 00:08:37,433 cards. 285 00:08:38,133 --> 00:08:43,133 So I redeemed that and I bought the 286 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:45,833 Coldplay DLC for Beat Saber. 287 00:08:46,666 --> 00:08:50,266 And let me tell you, dude, I 288 00:08:50,266 --> 00:08:52,866 unironically love Coldplay. 289 00:08:53,266 --> 00:08:54,933 They are terrific. 290 00:08:55,633 --> 00:08:56,833 And I know a lot of people are going to 291 00:08:56,833 --> 00:08:57,966 be like, "Oh, guilty pleasure." 292 00:08:58,333 --> 00:08:59,566 No, no, no, no. 293 00:08:59,566 --> 00:09:00,133 I don't care. 294 00:09:00,433 --> 00:09:01,366 I love Coldplay. 295 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:07,066 And this DLC pack is the best pack of 296 00:09:07,066 --> 00:09:11,566 songs I've ever played on Beat Saber. 297 00:09:11,566 --> 00:09:13,066 It's just so much fun. 298 00:09:13,566 --> 00:09:15,666 My favorite is something just like this. 299 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:17,466 That's my favorite track on there. 300 00:09:18,566 --> 00:09:19,133 So good. 301 00:09:19,366 --> 00:09:20,133 Holy crap, dude. 302 00:09:21,466 --> 00:09:23,799 I don't know if I've bought much or if 303 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:24,666 any of the packs on 304 00:09:24,666 --> 00:09:26,566 Beat Saber, I play all the 305 00:09:26,633 --> 00:09:27,799 stuff that I just released for free. 306 00:09:28,933 --> 00:09:31,366 Is it remixed for Beat Saber or is it 307 00:09:31,366 --> 00:09:32,633 just the exact song? 308 00:09:32,966 --> 00:09:34,633 It's the exact song for these. 309 00:09:34,633 --> 00:09:37,899 I haven't played a lot of other DLC 310 00:09:37,899 --> 00:09:39,466 because I don't like 311 00:09:39,466 --> 00:09:41,566 meta and I don't want to pay 312 00:09:41,666 --> 00:09:43,466 meta, but I figure I have this in my 313 00:09:43,466 --> 00:09:44,333 wallet, so whatever. 314 00:09:45,066 --> 00:09:45,899 Is that a game? 315 00:09:46,966 --> 00:09:47,866 Oh yeah, Beat Saber is 316 00:09:47,866 --> 00:09:49,633 owned by meta, which sucks. 317 00:09:49,633 --> 00:09:50,333 Yeah, when did that happen? 318 00:09:51,366 --> 00:09:52,466 A little while ago, a 319 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:53,100 couple of years ago. 320 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:02,200 So I wrote a review, 1300 words of this 321 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,666 DLC pack and right at 322 00:10:04,666 --> 00:10:06,533 the top I was like, "You 323 00:10:06,533 --> 00:10:08,166 probably shouldn't buy this because it's 324 00:10:08,166 --> 00:10:09,600 owned by meta and also 325 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,700 there's no telling what the 326 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:12,633 fuck they're using with our data." 327 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:13,833 Sorry, I swore. 328 00:10:14,166 --> 00:10:14,399 Apologies. 329 00:10:15,066 --> 00:10:16,299 "There's no telling what they're doing 330 00:10:16,299 --> 00:10:17,066 with the data that they 331 00:10:17,066 --> 00:10:18,566 collect of the headset 332 00:10:18,566 --> 00:10:19,366 and your usage." 333 00:10:19,933 --> 00:10:22,166 So your mileage may vary. 334 00:10:23,033 --> 00:10:25,666 But I will say that something just like 335 00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:27,766 this, Viva La Vida, A Sky 336 00:10:27,766 --> 00:10:29,466 Full of Stars, Adventure 337 00:10:29,466 --> 00:10:31,966 of a Lifetime, Clocks, Yellow, I mean 338 00:10:31,966 --> 00:10:33,033 those are all, Speed of 339 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:34,666 Sound, they're all really, 340 00:10:34,733 --> 00:10:35,366 really, really, 341 00:10:35,366 --> 00:10:36,566 really, really fun to play. 342 00:10:36,566 --> 00:10:38,033 All their classics it sounds like. 343 00:10:38,366 --> 00:10:38,566 Yeah. 344 00:10:38,666 --> 00:10:38,933 Yeah. 345 00:10:39,266 --> 00:10:40,799 There's a few of the newer songs, which I 346 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:41,399 haven't even tried 347 00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:42,399 because I don't really care 348 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:44,866 to try their new ones, but the classic 349 00:10:44,866 --> 00:10:46,100 ones are really good. 350 00:10:47,133 --> 00:10:48,366 And I don't know if you guys, have you 351 00:10:48,366 --> 00:10:49,966 guys played Beat Saber recently? 352 00:10:51,566 --> 00:10:51,633 No. 353 00:10:52,266 --> 00:10:54,233 Within the last two years maybe? 354 00:10:54,766 --> 00:10:57,333 Yeah, I've played a couple of months ago 355 00:10:57,333 --> 00:10:59,133 when I set up my VR again. 356 00:10:59,933 --> 00:11:02,966 Have you seen the new 357 00:11:02,966 --> 00:11:04,100 mechanics that they've added? 358 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:09,366 There's a mechanic where there's a normal 359 00:11:09,366 --> 00:11:10,233 block with a 360 00:11:10,233 --> 00:11:11,833 direction, but then there's a 361 00:11:11,833 --> 00:11:14,433 bunch of very tiny blocks that follow it. 362 00:11:15,266 --> 00:11:15,399 Oh yeah. 363 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:17,066 And so you slice through all of them and 364 00:11:17,066 --> 00:11:19,799 then they also have the... 365 00:11:20,033 --> 00:11:20,866 They call them arcs. 366 00:11:21,633 --> 00:11:23,633 And so it's like you slice through it and 367 00:11:23,633 --> 00:11:24,466 then it's like it's 368 00:11:24,466 --> 00:11:25,933 an arc that you follow 369 00:11:26,366 --> 00:11:27,166 with your... 370 00:11:27,166 --> 00:11:29,033 You trace the arc out in 371 00:11:29,033 --> 00:11:33,033 3D space and it's so fun. 372 00:11:33,966 --> 00:11:35,733 And this uses it very well. 373 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:37,866 That's good to know. 374 00:11:38,466 --> 00:11:38,666 Yeah. 375 00:11:38,866 --> 00:11:41,200 Maybe I should pick up a DLC or something 376 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,133 of like some newer 377 00:11:42,133 --> 00:11:43,433 music that uses the new. 378 00:11:44,966 --> 00:11:45,299 Yeah. 379 00:11:45,833 --> 00:11:47,399 And do you use any custom songs? 380 00:11:47,533 --> 00:11:49,033 There's like, there are some custom songs 381 00:11:49,033 --> 00:11:50,533 that use them too and it's really good. 382 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:52,433 Maybe. 383 00:11:52,933 --> 00:11:53,733 Sorry, I don't remember. 384 00:11:53,733 --> 00:11:54,766 It's been a few months now. 385 00:11:54,766 --> 00:11:55,133 Oh yeah. 386 00:11:55,133 --> 00:11:56,700 But I love Beat Saber. 387 00:11:56,966 --> 00:11:59,033 I honestly, one of the things I want is I 388 00:11:59,033 --> 00:12:02,533 don't want to pay for a meta VR. 389 00:12:02,533 --> 00:12:03,966 I want to get the Steamframe. 390 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,500 And so I can just play it wherever. 391 00:12:06,733 --> 00:12:08,233 That's what I'm really wanting because 392 00:12:08,233 --> 00:12:09,166 I'm getting tired of the... 393 00:12:09,666 --> 00:12:10,766 My house is just not set up 394 00:12:10,766 --> 00:12:15,733 very well for the valve index. 395 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:16,966 Yeah. 396 00:12:17,666 --> 00:12:21,933 I want Valve to buy the Beat Saber crew. 397 00:12:22,866 --> 00:12:24,066 I'm really sick of it 398 00:12:24,066 --> 00:12:24,833 being owned by meta. 399 00:12:26,266 --> 00:12:28,766 What if some enterprise and developer 400 00:12:28,766 --> 00:12:32,033 just made Beat Saber slightly different? 401 00:12:33,666 --> 00:12:34,666 I mean, you guys are down. 402 00:12:34,933 --> 00:12:35,633 Let's do it together. 403 00:12:36,966 --> 00:12:41,766 We'll call it Rhythm Sword. 404 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,500 Rhythm Sword. 405 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:43,966 I love it. 406 00:12:45,966 --> 00:12:47,299 Instead of being like lightsabers, 407 00:12:47,299 --> 00:12:49,866 instead you have like a physical sword. 408 00:12:50,733 --> 00:12:50,933 Hmm. 409 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:52,733 Yeah. 410 00:12:52,966 --> 00:12:54,333 I don't know if that would do as well. 411 00:12:55,866 --> 00:12:58,500 Or what about like the Scott Pilgrim 412 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:00,366 Sword at the end of Scott 413 00:13:00,366 --> 00:13:01,866 Pilgrim movie where it's 414 00:13:01,866 --> 00:13:02,433 like pixelated. 415 00:13:02,933 --> 00:13:04,233 Oh, like a pixelated Katana? 416 00:13:04,833 --> 00:13:05,033 Yeah. 417 00:13:05,633 --> 00:13:06,166 Oh, dude. 418 00:13:06,733 --> 00:13:07,333 That'd be cool. 419 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:09,566 Yeah, what if we made a pixel art? 420 00:13:09,566 --> 00:13:10,166 Because I have seen 421 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:11,799 some like VR pixel art. 422 00:13:12,233 --> 00:13:12,700 Could be interesting. 423 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:16,333 Yeah, I'll tell you like the Beat Saber 424 00:13:16,333 --> 00:13:18,466 environment that you're 425 00:13:18,466 --> 00:13:20,299 in is like super awesome. 426 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:22,766 And like Coldplay came with a bunch of 427 00:13:22,766 --> 00:13:24,299 extra stages that are 428 00:13:24,299 --> 00:13:26,500 custom built for these songs. 429 00:13:27,566 --> 00:13:30,133 So like Yellow is like... 430 00:13:30,366 --> 00:13:33,500 It's like a black and yellow scheme. 431 00:13:33,766 --> 00:13:34,766 It's really cool. 432 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:37,433 That sounds cool. 433 00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:38,366 Yeah. 434 00:13:39,033 --> 00:13:40,033 Beat Saber is awesome. 435 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:40,799 Yeah. 436 00:13:41,666 --> 00:13:43,233 My favorite game right now. 437 00:13:44,266 --> 00:13:45,533 It's also good because then it gets 438 00:13:45,533 --> 00:13:46,666 people moving around. 439 00:13:46,666 --> 00:13:48,033 It's really good for like getting some 440 00:13:48,033 --> 00:13:49,566 little bit of cardio in, 441 00:13:49,566 --> 00:13:50,233 getting a little bit of 442 00:13:50,266 --> 00:13:50,633 movements. 443 00:13:50,866 --> 00:13:51,133 It's... 444 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,233 I think VR has a really good 445 00:13:53,233 --> 00:13:54,266 place for that type of stuff. 446 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:55,000 Yeah. 447 00:13:55,333 --> 00:13:58,866 What I want in VR is leg inputs because 448 00:13:58,866 --> 00:14:00,233 then they could make 449 00:14:00,233 --> 00:14:01,266 like a martial arts game. 450 00:14:01,466 --> 00:14:02,233 And I used to do martial 451 00:14:02,233 --> 00:14:05,366 arts when I was growing up. 452 00:14:05,766 --> 00:14:07,633 So that'd be a lot of fun. 453 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:08,866 That would be fun. 454 00:14:10,333 --> 00:14:11,899 I'd love that. 455 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:12,966 My kids would die. 456 00:14:13,433 --> 00:14:14,633 I would kick them in the face because 457 00:14:14,633 --> 00:14:15,533 they'd be walking by. 458 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,533 I've already... 459 00:14:18,666 --> 00:14:19,633 Or they would destroy the... 460 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:21,366 Me? 461 00:14:22,266 --> 00:14:22,466 Yeah. 462 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:23,200 No. 463 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:24,866 No. 464 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:25,899 No. 465 00:14:28,466 --> 00:14:30,200 What I've been doing this week is working 466 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,600 on my video game and 467 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,500 getting my vertical slice 468 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:35,333 ready for the demo next year. 469 00:14:35,366 --> 00:14:37,633 Like I talked about in the bonus episode 470 00:14:37,633 --> 00:14:39,766 of what I plan on doing next year. 471 00:14:40,266 --> 00:14:40,966 And so I've been... 472 00:14:41,466 --> 00:14:43,200 I've had some time off from work and so 473 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,733 I've been working on 474 00:14:43,733 --> 00:14:44,566 that and spending time with 475 00:14:44,566 --> 00:14:44,933 family. 476 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,133 And then like Christmas wise, I got a 477 00:14:50,133 --> 00:14:51,133 couple of really cool things. 478 00:14:51,133 --> 00:14:54,399 One of them was an Apple TV, which I will 479 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,033 say I'm stuck in the Apple verse. 480 00:14:56,433 --> 00:14:57,533 It's just everything works. 481 00:14:58,833 --> 00:15:02,033 I can easily use my AirPods to watch 482 00:15:02,033 --> 00:15:04,166 stuff on the Apple TV 483 00:15:04,166 --> 00:15:06,533 while let's say my wife is 484 00:15:06,533 --> 00:15:11,133 sleeping and so it just makes... 485 00:15:11,333 --> 00:15:13,633 I use the Apple fitness stuff. 486 00:15:13,633 --> 00:15:14,933 I really like it a lot and I 487 00:15:14,933 --> 00:15:16,433 use that with the Apple TV. 488 00:15:16,433 --> 00:15:17,000 I really like it. 489 00:15:17,566 --> 00:15:19,766 But the best thing I got was... 490 00:15:21,299 --> 00:15:23,399 And the weirdest thing that 491 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,466 my wife got me was a bidet. 492 00:15:26,466 --> 00:15:26,966 I got a bidet. 493 00:15:26,966 --> 00:15:27,500 For your toilet? 494 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,100 I love it. 495 00:15:30,833 --> 00:15:31,466 Bidets are awesome. 496 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:33,066 I've been holding off, but yeah. 497 00:15:33,899 --> 00:15:35,066 Emily really wants a bidet. 498 00:15:36,766 --> 00:15:37,833 You should get one, Gardiner. 499 00:15:37,833 --> 00:15:38,466 You should get one. 500 00:15:38,666 --> 00:15:41,233 Like we got the Tushy one, which is like 501 00:15:41,233 --> 00:15:42,433 a popular brand that 502 00:15:42,433 --> 00:15:43,166 does a really good job. 503 00:15:43,433 --> 00:15:43,766 It's an... 504 00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:45,166 It doesn't do... 505 00:15:45,333 --> 00:15:46,799 You can get ones that do... 506 00:15:47,166 --> 00:15:48,566 That will hook up warm water if your 507 00:15:48,566 --> 00:15:49,766 toilets are near the sink. 508 00:15:50,833 --> 00:15:51,666 You get electric ones 509 00:15:51,666 --> 00:15:52,633 that will heat up the water. 510 00:15:53,633 --> 00:15:55,500 I'm going on just full cold. 511 00:15:55,866 --> 00:15:58,433 And honestly, I've used bidets before, 512 00:15:58,433 --> 00:15:59,533 but it hasn't been that bad. 513 00:15:59,533 --> 00:16:00,700 I thought the cold was going to be worse. 514 00:16:01,066 --> 00:16:01,733 Nah, it's fine. 515 00:16:02,633 --> 00:16:04,033 It's like a cup of coffee 516 00:16:04,033 --> 00:16:04,899 before your cup of coffee. 517 00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:10,666 So we had this discussion and I'm sorry 518 00:16:10,666 --> 00:16:11,733 to interrupt, but like, 519 00:16:12,166 --> 00:16:13,500 oh my God, she was talking 520 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,200 about how bad she wants a bidet. 521 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:15,633 I'm like, have you 522 00:16:15,633 --> 00:16:16,766 ever tried a bidet before? 523 00:16:16,766 --> 00:16:18,100 She's like, no, but I 524 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:19,366 think I would really like it. 525 00:16:19,366 --> 00:16:20,966 And I'm like, I have tried a bidet. 526 00:16:21,633 --> 00:16:23,466 And granted I didn't try an electric one. 527 00:16:23,466 --> 00:16:24,799 I tried one that was just hooked up to 528 00:16:24,799 --> 00:16:26,133 the cold water of like 529 00:16:26,133 --> 00:16:27,166 that goes into the tank. 530 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,133 And I was like, you're 531 00:16:29,133 --> 00:16:31,066 expecting a shower for your butt. 532 00:16:31,733 --> 00:16:34,266 And that is not at all what you get. 533 00:16:36,166 --> 00:16:37,500 It was just, I don't know. 534 00:16:37,899 --> 00:16:39,333 It was during the winter 535 00:16:39,333 --> 00:16:40,866 and it was in here in Maine. 536 00:16:41,533 --> 00:16:45,033 And this was just like an abrasive cold 537 00:16:45,033 --> 00:16:47,766 wetness that I did not appreciate. 538 00:16:48,666 --> 00:16:50,233 So I've been resistant because we don't 539 00:16:50,233 --> 00:16:51,466 have an outlet near the 540 00:16:51,466 --> 00:16:52,500 toilet and we don't have 541 00:16:52,866 --> 00:16:54,166 anything like we can't 542 00:16:54,166 --> 00:16:55,333 hook up hot water to it. 543 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:56,166 I don't know. 544 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:57,299 I don't think it would work. 545 00:16:57,299 --> 00:16:58,166 Why couldn't you hook up hot water? 546 00:16:58,166 --> 00:17:00,700 I mean, even you own your house, you 547 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:03,366 could probably pass a 548 00:17:03,366 --> 00:17:08,233 pipe or one of the hot water 549 00:17:08,233 --> 00:17:10,000 hookup through the wall to your sink. 550 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,900 Because it can just hook up to your 551 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:12,200 sink's hot water too, if you want. 552 00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:14,566 Yeah, the sink's on the opposite side of 553 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:16,866 the bathroom and so is the shower. 554 00:17:17,433 --> 00:17:20,366 So it's like, it's like fully on the 555 00:17:20,366 --> 00:17:21,233 other side of the room. 556 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,933 Yeah, you could figure out a way. 557 00:17:24,933 --> 00:17:26,633 I could have my 558 00:17:26,633 --> 00:17:27,966 friend Danny come help me. 559 00:17:28,566 --> 00:17:30,799 Which would be easier trying to get like, 560 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:31,966 yeah, hot water to that 561 00:17:31,966 --> 00:17:33,099 or just doing an electric 562 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,366 one? 563 00:17:34,666 --> 00:17:35,733 Oh, yeah. 564 00:17:35,733 --> 00:17:37,033 I wish that I could take the cold water. 565 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:38,633 Yeah, just take it. 566 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:39,933 Take the cold water, dude. 567 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:41,099 I mean, that's how I 568 00:17:41,099 --> 00:17:41,833 would do it in the beginning. 569 00:17:42,099 --> 00:17:45,333 But like, if I, so this is like, yeah, my 570 00:17:45,333 --> 00:17:47,200 Tushy's like a starter today and I really 571 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,033 like it so far. 572 00:17:48,266 --> 00:17:49,866 So I definitely recommend it to anyone. 573 00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:53,700 Save a lot on toilet paper and then, you 574 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:57,166 know, just much more hygienic. 575 00:17:57,833 --> 00:17:58,033 Yeah. 576 00:17:59,033 --> 00:17:59,333 Dude. 577 00:17:59,666 --> 00:17:59,866 Yeah. 578 00:18:00,766 --> 00:18:02,433 Japan has some really nice bidetzo. 579 00:18:04,466 --> 00:18:06,233 They do even at the hotels, like the 580 00:18:06,233 --> 00:18:07,366 hotel I stayed at, like 581 00:18:07,366 --> 00:18:09,933 it was very nice, but like 582 00:18:09,933 --> 00:18:10,266 toilet. 583 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:12,166 Even at the Airbnb I was at. 584 00:18:13,866 --> 00:18:15,766 I stayed in a few hotels in the Airbnb. 585 00:18:16,466 --> 00:18:17,533 That was pretty nice. 586 00:18:19,066 --> 00:18:20,500 There was also a, there was also a toilet 587 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,933 at the Airbnb that also had a, all right. 588 00:18:23,933 --> 00:18:24,666 So when you flush the 589 00:18:24,666 --> 00:18:27,466 toilet, it turns on the sink. 590 00:18:27,466 --> 00:18:29,633 That's like literally right above it. 591 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:30,733 And like you wash your 592 00:18:30,733 --> 00:18:31,700 hands in that toilet. 593 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:32,933 Yeah. 594 00:18:32,933 --> 00:18:33,533 Which is crazy. 595 00:18:34,566 --> 00:18:35,000 Yeah. 596 00:18:35,833 --> 00:18:36,766 They have some weird stuff there. 597 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:38,933 Yeah. 598 00:18:39,566 --> 00:18:40,099 I mean, they do 599 00:18:40,099 --> 00:18:41,833 toilets right in Asia though. 600 00:18:41,833 --> 00:18:42,400 Or the most like a 601 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,033 lot of Asian countries. 602 00:18:43,766 --> 00:18:43,833 Yeah. 603 00:18:45,233 --> 00:18:46,700 Where you can spray 604 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:47,900 off the whole bathroom. 605 00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:50,333 They do, did I say toilets? 606 00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:51,000 I meant bathroom. 607 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,533 Like the whole bathroom, you can spray it 608 00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:52,900 out and it has a 609 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:53,533 drain right in the middle. 610 00:18:53,533 --> 00:18:55,666 So you can just clean it really easy. 611 00:18:56,099 --> 00:18:56,900 I feel like. 612 00:18:58,166 --> 00:19:00,233 Um, and once you have kids, you realize 613 00:19:00,233 --> 00:19:01,766 like, yeah, having a 614 00:19:01,766 --> 00:19:02,633 way to spray out the whole 615 00:19:02,633 --> 00:19:04,166 bathroom would be just amazing. 616 00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:07,900 Uh, but yeah, no, great, great time. 617 00:19:08,133 --> 00:19:09,666 Great, great week, Christmas week. 618 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,033 Curious, honestly, listeners and watchers 619 00:19:14,033 --> 00:19:15,533 like what did you do 620 00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:16,633 anything great or anything 621 00:19:16,633 --> 00:19:18,033 fun this week? 622 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:20,299 Let us know in the comments below what 623 00:19:20,299 --> 00:19:22,266 any good games you bought. 624 00:19:22,566 --> 00:19:24,766 I mean, I got outer worlds too. 625 00:19:24,766 --> 00:19:27,133 I bought that with some steam bucks. 626 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:29,966 Um, I plan on playing that probably in 627 00:19:29,966 --> 00:19:30,866 the next week or two. 628 00:19:30,866 --> 00:19:32,933 Like I'm really excited to play outer 629 00:19:32,933 --> 00:19:34,633 worlds, even though it 630 00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:35,700 didn't win game of the year. 631 00:19:36,233 --> 00:19:37,266 I love outer worlds one. 632 00:19:37,733 --> 00:19:38,733 So excited for that. 633 00:19:39,266 --> 00:19:42,166 Yeah, I bought haste as well. 634 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,633 Um, at one, two 635 00:19:43,633 --> 00:19:46,633 recommendation, uh, the first one haste. 636 00:19:47,099 --> 00:19:47,299 Okay. 637 00:19:48,233 --> 00:19:48,666 How was it? 638 00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:48,966 Nice. 639 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,166 It's pretty good. 640 00:19:50,533 --> 00:19:50,966 I like it. 641 00:19:51,366 --> 00:19:52,533 Oh, I'm thinking Hades. 642 00:19:52,766 --> 00:19:53,266 Oh my gosh. 643 00:19:53,633 --> 00:19:54,366 Yeah, I know Hades. 644 00:19:55,033 --> 00:19:55,533 Uh, not. 645 00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:56,433 I was thinking Hades. 646 00:19:57,433 --> 00:19:57,700 Yeah. 647 00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:58,333 It's this cool. 648 00:19:58,333 --> 00:19:59,166 Haste is cool. 649 00:19:59,166 --> 00:20:00,033 I like it. 650 00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:02,433 It's, it's like you, you have to, it, 651 00:20:02,666 --> 00:20:03,733 what was that one game 652 00:20:03,733 --> 00:20:05,866 where you have to like dive? 653 00:20:06,633 --> 00:20:07,700 It's like a side scroll and you have to 654 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:08,933 like dive and like, 655 00:20:08,933 --> 00:20:11,566 like, uh, amplify your, your 656 00:20:11,566 --> 00:20:12,733 height based on like 657 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:13,633 the ground below you. 658 00:20:13,866 --> 00:20:14,766 Anyway, it's like that, but 659 00:20:14,766 --> 00:20:16,433 it's 3d and it's super fun. 660 00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:17,866 It's really fast paced. 661 00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:20,866 That was the demo I did when we were 662 00:20:20,866 --> 00:20:21,933 doing demos almost a 663 00:20:21,933 --> 00:20:23,133 year ago and I loved it. 664 00:20:23,733 --> 00:20:23,933 Yeah. 665 00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:25,366 Oh, was it you that recommended it? 666 00:20:25,633 --> 00:20:26,099 It might've been you. 667 00:20:26,433 --> 00:20:27,466 Yeah, but it's good. 668 00:20:28,166 --> 00:20:29,833 Not what it was in an article. 669 00:20:29,833 --> 00:20:31,500 I know I've recommended haste multiple 670 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:33,033 times and we've also, 671 00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:34,633 yeah, we've talked about it 672 00:20:34,633 --> 00:20:35,200 on the podcast. 673 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:36,333 That's what I remember. 674 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:37,933 But yeah, good stuff. 675 00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:42,500 The, the thing. 676 00:20:42,733 --> 00:20:44,633 Oh, haste would, the next version of 677 00:20:44,633 --> 00:20:47,266 haste should be like a beat saber style. 678 00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:47,833 That would be cool. 679 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:49,633 I wonder if you could do that. 680 00:20:50,299 --> 00:20:50,500 Yeah. 681 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:51,433 It would make me sick as a 682 00:20:51,433 --> 00:20:53,066 dog right off, like immediately. 683 00:20:53,766 --> 00:20:56,566 What it, VR, VR, I can't do it. 684 00:20:56,833 --> 00:20:58,233 Well, VR would be cool too, but I'm just 685 00:20:58,233 --> 00:20:59,200 saying like, it'd be fun 686 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,266 to have it have beats that 687 00:21:00,266 --> 00:21:02,366 you can kind of play it. 688 00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:02,733 Yeah. 689 00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:03,599 That would be. 690 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:04,266 Play around with. 691 00:21:05,966 --> 00:21:06,066 Okay. 692 00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:06,633 Sorry. 693 00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:07,633 Okay. 694 00:21:08,966 --> 00:21:09,866 Let's. 695 00:21:11,433 --> 00:21:13,133 I cut someone off. 696 00:21:13,266 --> 00:21:14,666 No, you can't. 697 00:21:14,966 --> 00:21:16,433 Someone have anything else or should we 698 00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:17,366 continue on with this? 699 00:21:18,366 --> 00:21:18,566 Okay. 700 00:21:18,733 --> 00:21:19,233 Yeah, I 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the bonuses 765 00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:07,933 are good on their own right 766 00:23:07,933 --> 00:23:08,599 now. 767 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,400 If I did not say that 768 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,733 right, but you know, thanks guys. 769 00:23:15,566 --> 00:23:15,866 Yeah. 770 00:23:16,566 --> 00:23:20,133 So let's get into this week's topics and 771 00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:22,366 I will have to say, I 772 00:23:22,366 --> 00:23:25,933 don't like the first topic 773 00:23:25,933 --> 00:23:26,933 we're going to be talking about. 774 00:23:26,933 --> 00:23:29,933 It's really frustrating, but Claire 775 00:23:29,933 --> 00:23:31,966 obscure 30 expedition, 33 776 00:23:31,966 --> 00:23:33,233 disqualified from the indie 777 00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:36,433 games awards for generative AI usage. 778 00:23:37,033 --> 00:23:39,033 Yeah. 779 00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:39,766 Hi, tech. 780 00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:40,700 Were you the one that submitted this? 781 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:41,733 Do you want to go over this? 782 00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:42,633 Yeah. 783 00:23:42,633 --> 00:23:44,700 So essentially the indie game awards, no 784 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:45,833 relation to the game 785 00:23:45,833 --> 00:23:48,566 awards is a separate award and 786 00:23:48,566 --> 00:23:51,900 one of their rules was a disclosure of AI 787 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:54,266 usage and someone 788 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,233 from Sandrock apparently 789 00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:57,466 told them that they didn't use gen AI at 790 00:23:57,466 --> 00:24:00,633 all for the development of Claire obscure 791 00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:04,533 and they, it turns out they did. 792 00:24:06,233 --> 00:24:06,700 Yes. 793 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:08,633 It was, and yes, it was a placeholder 794 00:24:08,633 --> 00:24:11,066 that even well, it's not enough. 795 00:24:11,066 --> 00:24:13,133 It wasn't, it was in the final ship game, 796 00:24:13,133 --> 00:24:14,000 but they patched out 797 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,099 really quickly when they 798 00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:16,066 realized, but yeah, it was, 799 00:24:16,066 --> 00:24:17,966 it was a poster on a pillar. 800 00:24:19,033 --> 00:24:20,466 Well, I mean, and that was it. 801 00:24:20,466 --> 00:24:22,066 The issue, the issue though, wasn't so 802 00:24:22,066 --> 00:24:23,066 much the use of AI 803 00:24:23,066 --> 00:24:23,966 because I'm sure they would 804 00:24:23,966 --> 00:24:25,933 have given it had they been, had they had 805 00:24:25,933 --> 00:24:27,400 someone at Sandrock told 806 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,266 them that they actually 807 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:30,133 like used it during development, but 808 00:24:30,133 --> 00:24:31,733 there was no AI in the game itself. 809 00:24:31,733 --> 00:24:32,000 Right. 810 00:24:32,933 --> 00:24:33,133 Right. 811 00:24:33,366 --> 00:24:36,766 But like they said they didn't use AI for 812 00:24:36,766 --> 00:24:37,466 the development of the 813 00:24:37,466 --> 00:24:38,299 game and implying that 814 00:24:38,299 --> 00:24:42,566 there were no like AI placeholders, which 815 00:24:42,566 --> 00:24:44,900 I mean is, that's basically the rule. 816 00:24:46,166 --> 00:24:48,766 I think it's a, I'm just going to say, I 817 00:24:48,766 --> 00:24:50,033 think it's a really stupid rule. 818 00:24:50,333 --> 00:24:51,299 I really hate it. 819 00:24:51,666 --> 00:24:52,799 I hate the gatekeeping 820 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:53,933 of it, but I get it also. 821 00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:54,566 I get it. 822 00:24:54,566 --> 00:24:55,466 Like if the whole game 823 00:24:55,466 --> 00:24:57,000 was made by AI, I get it. 824 00:24:57,733 --> 00:25:00,566 My problem is, is there's a lot more 825 00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:01,299 tools that are going to 826 00:25:01,299 --> 00:25:02,333 be introduced into gaming 827 00:25:02,333 --> 00:25:04,166 platform, like game development platforms 828 00:25:04,166 --> 00:25:05,666 that you're just not going to be able to, 829 00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:07,366 they're just going to kind of have 830 00:25:07,366 --> 00:25:09,966 generative or maybe AI, 831 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,366 maybe not generative AI, but 832 00:25:11,366 --> 00:25:11,933 like AI. 833 00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:17,200 So in place of clarity, the winner of the 834 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,799 indie game awards was blueprints. 835 00:25:20,633 --> 00:25:22,299 That's awesome. 836 00:25:22,299 --> 00:25:23,133 I love blueprints. 837 00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,133 I definitely, like for the indie game 838 00:25:25,133 --> 00:25:26,966 awards kind of thing, I do 839 00:25:26,966 --> 00:25:30,433 like, I'm glad that Expedition 840 00:25:30,733 --> 00:25:33,266 33 didn't quite win that because I do 841 00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:34,333 think that type of awards 842 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,033 is just a different kind 843 00:25:36,066 --> 00:25:38,866 of system that they have. 844 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:44,733 It is nice to have a home for like, like 845 00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:46,933 truly like small game 846 00:25:46,933 --> 00:25:50,599 studios, but I'm just 847 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:53,066 mad that they disqualified it. 848 00:25:53,266 --> 00:25:53,900 And I'm wondering if 849 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:54,966 they disqualified it. 850 00:25:54,966 --> 00:25:56,366 I wonder if they wanted to 851 00:25:56,366 --> 00:25:57,700 find a way to disqualify it too. 852 00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:58,766 Cause I know there's a lot of people that 853 00:25:58,766 --> 00:26:01,200 were not happy that this was mentioned to 854 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,433 be an indie title and I don't know. 855 00:26:04,433 --> 00:26:07,299 I just feel like it shouldn't have been 856 00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:08,599 disqualified personally. 857 00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:09,700 Here's the thing. 858 00:26:10,666 --> 00:26:12,866 I know people are like, oh yeah, AI, it 859 00:26:12,866 --> 00:26:13,966 saves a lot of time and 860 00:26:13,966 --> 00:26:15,133 lets us like ideate and 861 00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:15,566 whatever. 862 00:26:15,566 --> 00:26:18,400 But like as someone who like makes 863 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,400 videos, if you take 864 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,166 like, let's say that I make a 865 00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:28,133 movie and I put in temp 866 00:26:28,133 --> 00:26:30,066 audio, it can be whatever. 867 00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,700 It could be like a license track that I 868 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:33,366 don't have the license 869 00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:37,933 to, or it could be just some 870 00:26:37,933 --> 00:26:39,266 kind of stock audio, whatever. 871 00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:41,733 You put that in there and then it 872 00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:43,966 becomes, that's what you become used to. 873 00:26:44,266 --> 00:26:45,900 And then it becomes much more difficult 874 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:47,033 to actually replace it 875 00:26:47,033 --> 00:26:48,099 later when you're cutting 876 00:26:48,099 --> 00:26:50,900 to the music, you know, you're cutting 877 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:52,366 for that specific thing. 878 00:26:52,366 --> 00:26:54,433 And then when you go to take that and 879 00:26:54,433 --> 00:26:55,466 give it to an artist to 880 00:26:55,466 --> 00:26:56,866 say, here, this is what 881 00:26:56,866 --> 00:26:58,466 I put in as temporary audio. 882 00:26:58,466 --> 00:27:00,333 I want you to basically just do this. 883 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,299 It becomes much harder for the 884 00:27:02,299 --> 00:27:03,533 artist to express themselves. 885 00:27:04,433 --> 00:27:07,033 And I just find like the whole concept of 886 00:27:07,033 --> 00:27:08,566 like temporary art, 887 00:27:09,099 --> 00:27:09,666 you know, if you're not 888 00:27:09,733 --> 00:27:12,233 making it yourself, I just find it to be 889 00:27:12,233 --> 00:27:14,500 specious, like a specious use case. 890 00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:16,066 I don't know. 891 00:27:17,533 --> 00:27:19,033 I just don't see, I don't get it. 892 00:27:19,233 --> 00:27:19,633 I don't know why. 893 00:27:19,633 --> 00:27:22,133 So the art in Expedition 33 is very 894 00:27:22,133 --> 00:27:24,099 unique and it is not, in my 895 00:27:24,099 --> 00:27:26,233 opinion, heavily influenced 896 00:27:26,233 --> 00:27:26,733 by AI. 897 00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:30,000 So I don't know how much of their, like, 898 00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:31,833 the art isn't, it was 899 00:27:31,833 --> 00:27:33,466 maybe influenced by AI, 900 00:27:33,833 --> 00:27:36,200 but the placeholders that they used were 901 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,666 posters on a pillar that was left in. 902 00:27:40,433 --> 00:27:42,833 I'm sure they had AI art in other places, 903 00:27:43,066 --> 00:27:44,233 but like their creative 904 00:27:44,233 --> 00:27:46,033 director did a really, 905 00:27:46,266 --> 00:27:47,666 or their creative director and their 906 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:49,366 like, their artists and 907 00:27:49,366 --> 00:27:50,333 stuff like that did a really 908 00:27:50,333 --> 00:27:51,833 good job of flushing out 909 00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:53,166 something that is very unique. 910 00:27:53,766 --> 00:27:56,433 So I don't know. 911 00:27:56,433 --> 00:27:57,900 I think it really depends on the person, 912 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:59,033 the studio, maybe even 913 00:27:59,033 --> 00:27:59,966 like whether or not how 914 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,933 heavily stuff will get influenced by AI, 915 00:28:02,233 --> 00:28:06,066 but we're, we already 916 00:28:06,066 --> 00:28:07,233 take inspirations as 917 00:28:07,233 --> 00:28:07,700 an artist. 918 00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:08,966 Most artists will take 919 00:28:08,966 --> 00:28:10,433 inspirations from past art. 920 00:28:10,433 --> 00:28:13,833 That's how creative works have worked for 921 00:28:13,833 --> 00:28:17,099 generations, for millennia almost. 922 00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:20,066 It's where we build on that. 923 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:23,133 And so I don't know. 924 00:28:23,133 --> 00:28:24,333 I'm having, I have a hard time because I 925 00:28:24,333 --> 00:28:25,466 both agree with you, 926 00:28:25,466 --> 00:28:26,599 Gardner, because I do think 927 00:28:26,733 --> 00:28:29,566 it could end up hurting the creative 928 00:28:29,566 --> 00:28:31,066 process or it could 929 00:28:31,066 --> 00:28:33,133 really, maybe it could help. 930 00:28:35,966 --> 00:28:37,366 For me, I can say from personal 931 00:28:37,366 --> 00:28:38,866 experience, I do use 932 00:28:38,866 --> 00:28:41,233 generative AI for some placeholder 933 00:28:41,466 --> 00:28:41,599 stuff. 934 00:28:42,766 --> 00:28:45,533 I do not like it, but it is better than 935 00:28:45,533 --> 00:28:47,066 just having like a black 936 00:28:47,066 --> 00:28:49,200 box there or, you know, 937 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,766 like some really stupid piece. 938 00:28:53,033 --> 00:28:56,633 So I do use some generative, but I'm 939 00:28:56,633 --> 00:28:58,566 ready to replace it. 940 00:28:58,566 --> 00:28:59,133 I will say that. 941 00:29:00,033 --> 00:29:00,799 Yeah. 942 00:29:01,233 --> 00:29:02,833 I mean, it was super tempting for me when 943 00:29:02,833 --> 00:29:06,233 I was like doing some of the art for, for 944 00:29:06,233 --> 00:29:07,299 chess mess specifically. 945 00:29:07,866 --> 00:29:12,400 Like I was like, I'm not like super, I 946 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,166 don't feel like I'm a 947 00:29:13,166 --> 00:29:15,233 really good like artist in 948 00:29:15,233 --> 00:29:16,666 the way that I want 949 00:29:16,666 --> 00:29:18,466 this to look in my head. 950 00:29:19,233 --> 00:29:20,433 And it was like super tempting for me to 951 00:29:20,433 --> 00:29:21,433 just be like, hey, AI 952 00:29:21,433 --> 00:29:23,933 make, you know, tapestry, 953 00:29:23,933 --> 00:29:26,166 like make it look, make like chess pieces 954 00:29:26,166 --> 00:29:27,299 attacking each other in 955 00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:29,333 like a medieval tapestry 956 00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:30,366 style. 957 00:29:31,366 --> 00:29:32,966 But I didn't do that. 958 00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:34,166 Instead I went and like looked at 959 00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:35,933 medieval tapestries and 960 00:29:35,933 --> 00:29:37,366 then took some of the existing 961 00:29:37,366 --> 00:29:40,966 art I had and threw it into Inkscape. 962 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,833 And then I tried to like degrade it in 963 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:43,733 Photoshop or not 964 00:29:43,733 --> 00:29:44,933 Photoshop, but Gimp afterwards. 965 00:29:45,866 --> 00:29:47,966 And I don't know, it looks okay. 966 00:29:47,966 --> 00:29:49,166 I'm not a great artist though. 967 00:29:50,366 --> 00:29:50,566 Yeah. 968 00:29:51,099 --> 00:29:54,066 I mean, if I, that's the also the part 969 00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:55,366 with this like game I'm making. 970 00:29:55,366 --> 00:29:57,266 If the vertical slice in the demo I make 971 00:29:57,266 --> 00:29:59,033 is good enough to get 972 00:29:59,033 --> 00:30:01,366 like funding for it, then 973 00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:03,366 I want to, at the end of the day, I'd 974 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:04,933 love to hire an artist right now. 975 00:30:05,733 --> 00:30:07,633 I'd love to work with like a really good 976 00:30:07,633 --> 00:30:11,733 3D artist or, and or concept artists. 977 00:30:11,733 --> 00:30:13,500 Like usually they're two separate people 978 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:13,966 because they're 979 00:30:13,966 --> 00:30:16,000 drastically different ways of, of 980 00:30:16,933 --> 00:30:18,366 coming up with the art, like the 3D 981 00:30:18,366 --> 00:30:19,966 artists, the textures and 982 00:30:19,966 --> 00:30:21,433 the concept art are all very, 983 00:30:22,533 --> 00:30:23,733 take their own unique skills. 984 00:30:24,066 --> 00:30:25,033 I'd love to hire people. 985 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:26,533 It just, it costs money 986 00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:28,000 that I just do not have, right? 987 00:30:28,266 --> 00:30:29,966 And so I'd work with 988 00:30:29,966 --> 00:30:31,533 someone on a personal stand. 989 00:30:31,766 --> 00:30:33,966 I just don't feel, I 990 00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:34,833 feel like, I don't know. 991 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,200 I don't know of anyone that's like, 992 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:37,433 that's a good enough 993 00:30:37,433 --> 00:30:38,299 artist to do that too. 994 00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:41,599 So having AI and maybe that's going to be 995 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:42,833 my crux in the end is 996 00:30:42,833 --> 00:30:45,366 like, I'm going to rely 997 00:30:45,433 --> 00:30:47,133 too much on AI for this, but we'll find 998 00:30:47,133 --> 00:30:48,366 out, I guess in 2026. 999 00:30:51,066 --> 00:30:58,666 So I don't like, I'm just going to say, I 1000 00:30:58,666 --> 00:31:00,266 think they patched it out. 1001 00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:01,666 I think it was a mistake. 1002 00:31:01,666 --> 00:31:03,966 I think the game grew much bigger than 1003 00:31:03,966 --> 00:31:04,666 they were expecting, 1004 00:31:04,666 --> 00:31:05,566 much quicker than they were 1005 00:31:05,766 --> 00:31:06,066 expecting. 1006 00:31:06,066 --> 00:31:06,733 Like they started out 1007 00:31:06,733 --> 00:31:07,900 smaller and then they grew. 1008 00:31:08,633 --> 00:31:10,433 I think a lot of mistakes and a lot of 1009 00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:11,299 stuff falls through. 1010 00:31:11,299 --> 00:31:12,433 So even the person that said, yeah, we 1011 00:31:12,433 --> 00:31:13,466 didn't use generative AI 1012 00:31:13,466 --> 00:31:14,266 or something like that, 1013 00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:16,633 or maybe they said we didn't use AI, who 1014 00:31:16,633 --> 00:31:17,633 knows what they knew? 1015 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,933 I think there's a lot of nuance to this 1016 00:31:19,933 --> 00:31:20,733 type of stuff, a lot of 1017 00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:21,599 mistakes, but at the same 1018 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,166 time, hopefully they don't turn into a 1019 00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:25,166 big corporation that 1020 00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:27,233 just lies about stuff. 1021 00:31:27,866 --> 00:31:30,933 So I get, I think it would have been nice 1022 00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:32,866 to like give them some 1023 00:31:32,866 --> 00:31:34,033 leniency on this type 1024 00:31:34,033 --> 00:31:34,866 of thing. 1025 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:38,333 Well, the bed's neat already and they 1026 00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:39,933 certainly made an 1027 00:31:39,933 --> 00:31:41,500 example out of Expedition 33. 1028 00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:43,633 Yeah, the bed's been made and that's why 1029 00:31:43,633 --> 00:31:44,466 I'm making my comments. 1030 00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:45,166 I think they're wrong 1031 00:31:45,166 --> 00:31:46,733 and I think it's boring. 1032 00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:47,266 They did. 1033 00:31:47,666 --> 00:31:48,366 That's just my opinion. 1034 00:31:48,933 --> 00:31:50,099 So they made the decision. 1035 00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:51,766 I think it was completely wrong. 1036 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,866 I wish that, I hope that they can come up 1037 00:31:54,866 --> 00:31:55,233 with some better 1038 00:31:55,233 --> 00:31:56,666 rules in the future, more 1039 00:31:56,666 --> 00:31:59,466 leniency, but at the same time, I think 1040 00:31:59,466 --> 00:31:59,966 if this would have 1041 00:31:59,966 --> 00:32:02,333 happened with a game that 1042 00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:06,433 was more like smaller where they just 1043 00:32:06,433 --> 00:32:07,133 don't have as much 1044 00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:09,533 defense, because the Expedition's 1045 00:32:09,533 --> 00:32:10,299 like at the end of the day, 1046 00:32:10,299 --> 00:32:11,166 this doesn't matter for them. 1047 00:32:11,366 --> 00:32:12,266 Like they're going to make, they've 1048 00:32:12,266 --> 00:32:13,133 already made their money. 1049 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,366 They've made so much money. 1050 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,333 The game awards already been awarded to 1051 00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,033 them, like the big game award. 1052 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:23,233 But we're going to see a lot more, I 1053 00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:24,166 think really good indie 1054 00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:25,333 games come out that have 1055 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:26,266 used some AI. 1056 00:32:27,433 --> 00:32:29,033 I know that they need to disclose it, but 1057 00:32:29,033 --> 00:32:31,266 like it will soon not 1058 00:32:31,266 --> 00:32:32,233 be a thing to disclose 1059 00:32:32,266 --> 00:32:36,733 it, I think, or it's going 1060 00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:37,966 to be hard to disclose it. 1061 00:32:37,966 --> 00:32:39,666 About those indie games, do you think 1062 00:32:39,666 --> 00:32:40,733 they'll show up on my 1063 00:32:40,733 --> 00:32:43,333 cloud gaming service of choice 1064 00:32:43,366 --> 00:32:44,666 GeForce Now? 1065 00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:46,366 Yeah. 1066 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,533 So for those who don't know, GeForce Now, 1067 00:32:53,133 --> 00:32:54,233 service Nvidia runs 1068 00:32:54,233 --> 00:32:55,933 our favorite company of 1069 00:32:55,933 --> 00:32:56,333 the year. 1070 00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:58,866 Nvidia runs GeForce Now. 1071 00:32:59,633 --> 00:33:00,400 Essentially, you get to 1072 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,366 play games through the cloud. 1073 00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:04,833 And I mean, truth be told, the service is 1074 00:33:04,833 --> 00:33:05,200 actually pretty 1075 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,233 decent, but there's always 1076 00:33:07,233 --> 00:33:08,266 something about cloud gaming 1077 00:33:08,266 --> 00:33:10,033 that never feels quite right. 1078 00:33:10,666 --> 00:33:11,700 It would probably work better in a 1079 00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:12,866 country with good internet 1080 00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:14,933 and is a lot smaller, like 1081 00:33:14,933 --> 00:33:15,366 Japan. 1082 00:33:17,466 --> 00:33:19,266 But in the US, it's just never, it's 1083 00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:20,033 never going to work. 1084 00:33:20,566 --> 00:33:22,033 Like if I don't have a data center in my 1085 00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:24,866 state, it doesn't 1086 00:33:24,866 --> 00:33:25,566 really, it's not going to work 1087 00:33:25,566 --> 00:33:26,333 as well, of course. 1088 00:33:26,833 --> 00:33:27,933 I mean, data centers 1089 00:33:27,933 --> 00:33:29,000 are everywhere now, right? 1090 00:33:30,933 --> 00:33:32,166 Are there going to be a lot of little 1091 00:33:32,166 --> 00:33:33,133 data centers around or are 1092 00:33:33,133 --> 00:33:34,133 there going to be multiple 1093 00:33:34,133 --> 00:33:36,533 big data centers in like big towns? 1094 00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:38,500 What's the distance? 1095 00:33:38,733 --> 00:33:41,466 Because I'm in Utah and I've tried it and 1096 00:33:41,466 --> 00:33:43,266 it worked fine for me for the most part. 1097 00:33:43,266 --> 00:33:44,833 I think there's always going to be some 1098 00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:46,033 latency, even if you're 1099 00:33:46,033 --> 00:33:46,933 right next to the data center, 1100 00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:49,599 but I don't know. 1101 00:33:51,133 --> 00:33:52,666 Let's see what Nvidia says. 1102 00:33:56,633 --> 00:33:59,633 There's the closest, oh, there is one in 1103 00:33:59,633 --> 00:34:01,066 close to my neck of the woods. 1104 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:02,766 Interesting. 1105 00:34:05,533 --> 00:34:07,033 But again, not everyone's going to have 1106 00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:08,766 access to decent 1107 00:34:08,766 --> 00:34:12,333 internet and living close to an 1108 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:13,666 Nvidia data center. 1109 00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:18,166 And so, especially like people out in 1110 00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:19,266 like the Midwest where 1111 00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:20,866 internet speeds aren't great 1112 00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:23,766 and data centers are kind 1113 00:34:23,766 --> 00:34:25,766 of not great either there. 1114 00:34:26,933 --> 00:34:27,166 Agreed. 1115 00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:30,066 No, I, yeah. 1116 00:34:30,266 --> 00:34:30,966 Yeah, but that's not why 1117 00:34:30,966 --> 00:34:32,000 we're talking about this topic. 1118 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,466 We're talking about- 1119 00:34:32,466 --> 00:34:33,166 No, it's not. 1120 00:34:34,033 --> 00:34:36,066 I think it's fine to have like a game 1121 00:34:36,066 --> 00:34:37,233 streaming service like this. 1122 00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:38,466 I think it's good to have choices. 1123 00:34:38,466 --> 00:34:41,099 I think that's how our economy is 1124 00:34:41,099 --> 00:34:42,133 supposed to work, but 1125 00:34:42,133 --> 00:34:45,366 yeah, what if this is your only 1126 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,099 real choice because more and more 1127 00:34:47,099 --> 00:34:47,966 competitors are getting shut 1128 00:34:47,966 --> 00:34:49,966 down and then they implement 1129 00:34:50,066 --> 00:34:51,333 what are they implementing? 1130 00:34:53,133 --> 00:34:57,733 A time limit, 100 hours a month and you 1131 00:34:57,733 --> 00:35:00,466 can pay more for more time. 1132 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,133 And supposedly it's more economical to 1133 00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:04,366 have two subscriptions 1134 00:35:04,366 --> 00:35:07,099 to GeForce Now rather than 1135 00:35:07,099 --> 00:35:09,466 pay for 15 hour blocks, 1136 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,233 which is insane to me. 1137 00:35:14,566 --> 00:35:14,833 This is- 1138 00:35:15,066 --> 00:35:16,366 10 hours is a lot of time. 1139 00:35:17,766 --> 00:35:20,133 Yeah, it starts at 100 hours and then 1140 00:35:20,133 --> 00:35:21,433 next year it'll be 90 1141 00:35:21,433 --> 00:35:23,033 hours and then next year 1142 00:35:23,033 --> 00:35:24,733 it'll be 80 hours and then the next year 1143 00:35:24,733 --> 00:35:25,833 it'll be 70 hours and 1144 00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:26,833 people will complain about 1145 00:35:26,833 --> 00:35:27,066 it. 1146 00:35:27,933 --> 00:35:31,033 Yeah, but 70 hours covers 95% of all 1147 00:35:31,033 --> 00:35:32,699 players on our thing and 1148 00:35:32,699 --> 00:35:34,066 then it will be 60 and then 1149 00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:34,966 it will be 50. 1150 00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:35,900 This is how they work. 1151 00:35:36,533 --> 00:35:37,400 This is what they do. 1152 00:35:37,833 --> 00:35:39,266 It's how they get you. 1153 00:35:39,766 --> 00:35:42,733 It's my thing too is that cloud gaming in 1154 00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:44,733 and of itself isn't a bad concept. 1155 00:35:45,433 --> 00:35:47,099 It's just that when Nvidia wants to go 1156 00:35:47,099 --> 00:35:48,333 all in with AI and 1157 00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:50,633 cloud streaming, it really 1158 00:35:50,633 --> 00:35:52,300 begs the question of if they even want to 1159 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:53,066 sell hardware to 1160 00:35:53,066 --> 00:35:54,900 gamers anymore instead of 1161 00:35:54,933 --> 00:35:56,566 just having everything run through them. 1162 00:35:57,266 --> 00:36:00,800 Because I bet you it's going to make a 1163 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,366 lot more if they just 1164 00:36:02,366 --> 00:36:03,733 rented out their GPS instead 1165 00:36:03,733 --> 00:36:04,599 of selling them. 1166 00:36:06,733 --> 00:36:09,733 Yeah, I'm kind of curious if that's true. 1167 00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:11,866 Really want to know. 1168 00:36:11,866 --> 00:36:13,366 I don't know if these game streaming 1169 00:36:13,366 --> 00:36:15,033 services actually make that much money. 1170 00:36:15,033 --> 00:36:16,366 That's why Google stopped. 1171 00:36:18,366 --> 00:36:19,866 GeForce Now, they've changed their 1172 00:36:19,866 --> 00:36:22,066 pricing plan multiple times. 1173 00:36:23,566 --> 00:36:25,533 I think they used to have per hour usage 1174 00:36:25,533 --> 00:36:26,533 and then maybe they still do. 1175 00:36:26,833 --> 00:36:30,133 But 100 hours monthly time and they have 1176 00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:31,033 to pay extra is not 1177 00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:32,733 horrible, but you're not 1178 00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:33,599 wrong, Gardiner. 1179 00:36:33,966 --> 00:36:35,500 Are they going to decrease that? 1180 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:36,099 Are they going to... 1181 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:36,766 I don't know. 1182 00:36:36,766 --> 00:36:41,033 I don't like the idea of tying my gaming 1183 00:36:41,033 --> 00:36:42,699 to a service that 1184 00:36:42,699 --> 00:36:44,966 could be changed six months 1185 00:36:44,966 --> 00:36:45,533 down the road. 1186 00:36:45,533 --> 00:36:48,433 I've already tied my domains to a company 1187 00:36:48,433 --> 00:36:49,566 that screwed me over. 1188 00:36:50,233 --> 00:36:53,033 I don't want to necessarily have my 1189 00:36:53,033 --> 00:36:55,433 leisure time tied to that. 1190 00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:57,266 I get it. 1191 00:36:57,966 --> 00:37:00,266 A lot of gamers don't play 100 hours of 1192 00:37:00,266 --> 00:37:03,599 gaming in a month, but I 1193 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:04,500 don't like the idea of having 1194 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,633 a time limit on 1195 00:37:06,633 --> 00:37:07,566 something I pay for monthly. 1196 00:37:08,966 --> 00:37:09,766 I don't either. 1197 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,966 I also don't like the idea that if you 1198 00:37:13,966 --> 00:37:15,633 pay for 100 dollars and 1199 00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:16,666 you don't use them, then 1200 00:37:16,666 --> 00:37:17,333 you just lose them. 1201 00:37:18,266 --> 00:37:19,266 Yeah. 1202 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,733 Yeah. 1203 00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:20,866 I think it's just a limit. 1204 00:37:20,866 --> 00:37:21,433 I don't think you're 1205 00:37:21,433 --> 00:37:22,733 paying for 100 hours. 1206 00:37:22,733 --> 00:37:25,266 You can only play up to 100 hours. 1207 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:28,666 That's how you'd have to see it or else 1208 00:37:28,666 --> 00:37:29,733 it would be a rollover. 1209 00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:31,433 I mean, truth be told, if you're a gamer 1210 00:37:31,433 --> 00:37:32,666 that plays over 100 1211 00:37:32,666 --> 00:37:33,933 hours, you should just 1212 00:37:34,699 --> 00:37:35,666 buy a gamer PC. 1213 00:37:36,099 --> 00:37:36,666 I mean, that's probably 1214 00:37:36,666 --> 00:37:37,233 what they're thinking. 1215 00:37:38,033 --> 00:37:38,233 Yeah. 1216 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,666 That is assuming their master plan isn't 1217 00:37:41,666 --> 00:37:43,566 to rob the world of 1218 00:37:43,566 --> 00:37:44,766 affordable home computing. 1219 00:37:46,466 --> 00:37:46,866 That's their plan. 1220 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:48,966 Make no mistake. 1221 00:37:49,233 --> 00:37:49,833 That's everything. 1222 00:37:49,833 --> 00:37:51,666 I mean, I will admit it does sound very 1223 00:37:51,666 --> 00:37:55,733 conspiratorial because, I mean, there's 1224 00:37:55,733 --> 00:37:57,933 no evidence to suggest 1225 00:37:57,933 --> 00:37:58,533 that besides 1226 00:37:58,533 --> 00:37:59,566 everything going up in price. 1227 00:38:01,533 --> 00:38:04,400 But as a company, they're going to 1228 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,500 benefit more and more as 1229 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,500 more things are displaced 1230 00:38:06,566 --> 00:38:07,366 into data centers. 1231 00:38:07,366 --> 00:38:08,666 And so they're going to want that. 1232 00:38:08,966 --> 00:38:12,000 And unless you had a healthy government 1233 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,266 to help limit some of this with some. 1234 00:38:17,566 --> 00:38:20,466 With some limitations and some laws, it's 1235 00:38:20,466 --> 00:38:21,599 just going to keep on going. 1236 00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:23,133 And I don't know. 1237 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:24,366 It's Nvidia. 1238 00:38:24,866 --> 00:38:27,733 I mean, Nvidia just they very much feel 1239 00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:29,066 like a country or a 1240 00:38:29,066 --> 00:38:30,233 company out of control at this 1241 00:38:30,233 --> 00:38:30,533 point. 1242 00:38:30,766 --> 00:38:31,133 Yeah. 1243 00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:35,333 I highly doubt what's his face. 1244 00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:36,666 The CEO even. 1245 00:38:36,666 --> 00:38:37,366 Jensen Wong. 1246 00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:38,733 Yeah. 1247 00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:43,099 Even has any real control over the 1248 00:38:43,099 --> 00:38:44,433 direction of the company at this point. 1249 00:38:44,866 --> 00:38:48,433 Dude, when when Jensen Wong goes out for 1250 00:38:48,433 --> 00:38:50,766 fried chicken, Korean chicken. 1251 00:38:52,266 --> 00:38:54,266 And that company that he goes to isn't 1252 00:38:54,266 --> 00:38:55,733 even on the isn't even 1253 00:38:55,733 --> 00:38:57,466 publicly traded, but other 1254 00:38:58,033 --> 00:39:00,233 freaking publicly traded Korean chicken 1255 00:39:00,233 --> 00:39:02,400 franchises have their price bump. 1256 00:39:03,433 --> 00:39:05,566 That's called insanity, dude. 1257 00:39:05,966 --> 00:39:07,066 Like you're right. 1258 00:39:07,066 --> 00:39:08,833 It's completely out of control. 1259 00:39:08,833 --> 00:39:11,266 It's like this is a this is a freight 1260 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:12,033 train that's about to 1261 00:39:12,033 --> 00:39:13,133 go off the rails, man. 1262 00:39:13,466 --> 00:39:15,400 Do you think our net worth would go up 1263 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,666 like a billion dollars 1264 00:39:16,666 --> 00:39:18,033 if we had Jensen Wong on 1265 00:39:18,033 --> 00:39:18,466 the podcast? 1266 00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:21,166 Yes, we would. 1267 00:39:21,166 --> 00:39:22,666 Yes, there would be companies 1268 00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:24,133 trying to buy heavy element. 1269 00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:28,266 No. 1270 00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:29,166 OK. 1271 00:39:29,699 --> 00:39:32,266 New 2026 goals for the podcast. 1272 00:39:32,966 --> 00:39:36,133 Get get get some guests like Jensen Wong. 1273 00:39:36,699 --> 00:39:38,866 What we should do, what we should do is 1274 00:39:38,866 --> 00:39:41,166 we should get, you know, 1275 00:39:41,166 --> 00:39:42,199 off the console publicly 1276 00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:44,033 traded and we should call it 1277 00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:45,966 Korean fried chicken podcast. 1278 00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:47,300 Oh, my gosh. 1279 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,566 And video court. 1280 00:39:49,366 --> 00:39:51,500 And then one day and then one day we 1281 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,766 actually review Korean 1282 00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:55,366 fried chicken on the podcast 1283 00:39:55,833 --> 00:39:56,433 and just make the 1284 00:39:56,433 --> 00:39:57,466 entire episode about that. 1285 00:39:58,066 --> 00:39:58,766 Yeah, like we've 1286 00:39:58,766 --> 00:39:59,900 already talked about eating. 1287 00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:02,466 We should ask Bill. 1288 00:40:02,733 --> 00:40:04,233 Oh, Bill was on that. 1289 00:40:04,566 --> 00:40:05,633 Bill was on that episode. 1290 00:40:05,633 --> 00:40:06,333 We should see if he's 1291 00:40:06,333 --> 00:40:07,666 actually tried it since then. 1292 00:40:08,633 --> 00:40:09,333 Oh, that's true. 1293 00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:10,733 I'll tell you what. 1294 00:40:11,166 --> 00:40:12,199 Bonchon is awesome if 1295 00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:13,666 you haven't had Bonchon. 1296 00:40:13,666 --> 00:40:16,266 They used to have a Bonchon. 1297 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,533 They used to have a Bonchon near me, but 1298 00:40:18,533 --> 00:40:19,366 then they closed that 1299 00:40:19,366 --> 00:40:20,833 down and it's now a Mexican 1300 00:40:20,833 --> 00:40:21,300 restaurant. 1301 00:40:22,633 --> 00:40:24,766 Yeah, there's a Bonchon a little further 1302 00:40:24,766 --> 00:40:25,766 down, but I don't want I 1303 00:40:25,766 --> 00:40:26,366 don't feel like driving 1304 00:40:26,433 --> 00:40:27,866 30 minutes to get to Bonchon. 1305 00:40:28,699 --> 00:40:30,900 Maybe if we had good public transit, 1306 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:32,533 we'll take a picture of 1307 00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:33,266 the next time I walked up 1308 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:35,066 on because it's literally I can walk to 1309 00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:36,500 it in like two minutes. 1310 00:40:38,266 --> 00:40:41,199 Do an IRL stream of you walking from your 1311 00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:44,433 office to your local Bonchon. 1312 00:40:45,866 --> 00:40:47,599 I don't think I'm going to do that. 1313 00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:47,966 I'm not going to 1314 00:40:47,966 --> 00:40:49,500 reveal exactly where I live. 1315 00:40:50,133 --> 00:40:50,466 True that. 1316 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:51,500 Yeah. 1317 00:40:52,466 --> 00:40:55,699 Speaking of NVIDIA's insanity, did you 1318 00:40:55,699 --> 00:40:58,000 see that new NVIDIA nitrogen AI? 1319 00:40:59,433 --> 00:40:59,900 No. 1320 00:41:00,666 --> 00:41:02,133 I thought it was Nintendo's nitrogen. 1321 00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:03,699 Yeah, I thought. 1322 00:41:03,699 --> 00:41:04,533 Yeah, I thought. 1323 00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:05,666 I thought you thought that too. 1324 00:41:07,166 --> 00:41:08,900 Exactly what it sounds like. 1325 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,566 It's NVIDIA researchers creating AI that 1326 00:41:13,566 --> 00:41:15,133 plays video games for you. 1327 00:41:15,833 --> 00:41:18,033 Oh, dude, I predicted basically this in 1328 00:41:18,033 --> 00:41:20,233 the in the bonus episode. 1329 00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:22,333 We did like 2026 predictions. 1330 00:41:23,466 --> 00:41:28,066 So it's it's just what I wanted in a 1331 00:41:28,066 --> 00:41:29,933 highly interactive medium. 1332 00:41:30,633 --> 00:41:33,966 The dude the game playing itself for me. 1333 00:41:35,133 --> 00:41:37,166 I may as well just skip the middle man 1334 00:41:37,166 --> 00:41:39,466 and like stop buying 1335 00:41:39,466 --> 00:41:40,766 computer hardware altogether 1336 00:41:41,466 --> 00:41:44,066 and just watch a let's play on my phone. 1337 00:41:46,733 --> 00:41:49,366 Yeah, so like some people don't mind 1338 00:41:49,366 --> 00:41:50,866 watching games be played 1339 00:41:50,866 --> 00:41:52,366 through without any commentary. 1340 00:41:52,366 --> 00:41:53,866 There's a few streamers that do that, but 1341 00:41:53,866 --> 00:41:57,000 for the most part, I agree. 1342 00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:01,566 I think people come for a personality, 1343 00:42:01,966 --> 00:42:02,666 come for opinions, 1344 00:42:02,866 --> 00:42:04,433 come for companionship. 1345 00:42:04,433 --> 00:42:08,033 And if it's a void box, then I just 1346 00:42:08,033 --> 00:42:11,133 a.k.a. an AI, I just it's 1347 00:42:11,133 --> 00:42:11,733 not going to be entertaining. 1348 00:42:12,066 --> 00:42:14,833 The difference between that and like what 1349 00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:15,766 like watching someone 1350 00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:16,833 play is that you know 1351 00:42:16,833 --> 00:42:18,400 someone's actually playing the game. 1352 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,866 Like if it's like a speed run or like 1353 00:42:21,866 --> 00:42:22,966 maybe just high level 1354 00:42:22,966 --> 00:42:24,400 gameplay with no commentary, 1355 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,433 you know something. 1356 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,066 But the difference is this is AI running 1357 00:42:28,066 --> 00:42:31,466 and presumably playing the games locally. 1358 00:42:31,566 --> 00:42:34,033 It's like why even bother 1359 00:42:34,033 --> 00:42:35,366 playing games at this point? 1360 00:42:36,266 --> 00:42:38,599 Like I think this is meant to be for fun. 1361 00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:40,866 I don't know if we should like fully get 1362 00:42:40,866 --> 00:42:41,633 into too much because I 1363 00:42:41,633 --> 00:42:42,400 don't think this is going 1364 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,833 to destroy any type of markets. 1365 00:42:44,733 --> 00:42:46,133 I I do think research 1366 00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:47,266 wise, I think it's fascinating. 1367 00:42:48,266 --> 00:42:50,466 So I'm open source foundation model 1368 00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:53,966 designed to play a thousand plus games. 1369 00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:56,800 So it's open source in case any of you 1370 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,533 guys wanted to program 1371 00:42:58,533 --> 00:42:59,766 your own bot that can play 1372 00:42:59,766 --> 00:43:00,300 video games. 1373 00:43:00,766 --> 00:43:01,166 Well, that's another 1374 00:43:01,166 --> 00:43:02,066 interesting thing, too. 1375 00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:06,000 But especially in games like MMOs. 1376 00:43:07,066 --> 00:43:08,199 Where you have gold farmers. 1377 00:43:09,233 --> 00:43:09,433 Mm hmm. 1378 00:43:09,666 --> 00:43:11,033 Oh yeah, I can definitely be. 1379 00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:13,266 Yeah, that's that was the first thing I 1380 00:43:13,266 --> 00:43:14,266 thought was like this is 1381 00:43:14,266 --> 00:43:16,533 just going to make cheating 1382 00:43:16,966 --> 00:43:18,400 in online games a lot 1383 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,733 easier and much harder to detect. 1384 00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:25,266 Well, I mean, I think it's a bad idea. 1385 00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:26,000 Yeah. 1386 00:43:26,733 --> 00:43:28,033 I mean, I think it's been a while now had 1387 00:43:28,033 --> 00:43:29,266 some type of AI that 1388 00:43:29,266 --> 00:43:30,633 are specifically geared 1389 00:43:30,633 --> 00:43:32,033 towards online games. 1390 00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:34,099 But so I'm curious if this 1391 00:43:34,099 --> 00:43:35,166 would even be able to do that. 1392 00:43:35,166 --> 00:43:37,033 Well, I wonder how good the 1393 00:43:37,033 --> 00:43:38,166 precision is and all that. 1394 00:43:38,166 --> 00:43:39,266 So there's a YouTuber 1395 00:43:39,266 --> 00:43:40,466 called Basically Homeless. 1396 00:43:40,833 --> 00:43:42,766 He used to be a Rainbow Six YouTuber. 1397 00:43:43,733 --> 00:43:46,933 But then he's gone hard into basically 1398 00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:49,966 creating physical aim bots. 1399 00:43:51,766 --> 00:43:53,566 He has like one of his videos is 1400 00:43:53,566 --> 00:43:55,599 neuromuscular cyborg aim assist. 1401 00:43:57,666 --> 00:43:59,366 Where he has a bunch of wires attached to 1402 00:43:59,366 --> 00:44:02,733 his arm and it helps him it helps him aim 1403 00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:03,933 better somehow. 1404 00:44:04,333 --> 00:44:05,233 I haven't watched the video yet. 1405 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000 I watched another video where he has he 1406 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,566 basically has an 1407 00:44:08,566 --> 00:44:10,733 exoskeleton aim for him and it jerks 1408 00:44:10,733 --> 00:44:13,366 his arm around to like click on heads. 1409 00:44:13,866 --> 00:44:15,666 That way you're not technically cheating 1410 00:44:15,666 --> 00:44:16,733 by running software. 1411 00:44:17,833 --> 00:44:19,233 You're technically cheating by having 1412 00:44:19,233 --> 00:44:21,000 physical augments for your body. 1413 00:44:23,266 --> 00:44:25,533 I think it's cool if you're doing it not 1414 00:44:25,533 --> 00:44:26,633 to compete and you're 1415 00:44:26,633 --> 00:44:27,633 just having fun with it. 1416 00:44:28,166 --> 00:44:28,666 But yeah. 1417 00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:30,099 Yeah, yeah. 1418 00:44:30,099 --> 00:44:31,133 He's doing it for fun, of course. 1419 00:44:32,066 --> 00:44:32,266 Yeah. 1420 00:44:33,566 --> 00:44:35,833 But some people would certainly do that 1421 00:44:35,833 --> 00:44:37,500 to actually like have a 1422 00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:39,099 real advantage over our 1423 00:44:39,099 --> 00:44:40,400 weekly flesh and body. 1424 00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:42,300 You know, I don't know if 1425 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:43,333 I'm too worried at this point. 1426 00:44:43,366 --> 00:44:44,733 That seems like a lot harder than just 1427 00:44:44,733 --> 00:44:47,199 buying a cheat online 1428 00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:49,133 and implementing it. 1429 00:44:51,933 --> 00:44:52,233 Interesting. 1430 00:44:52,933 --> 00:44:53,766 They're like edge cases. 1431 00:44:53,766 --> 00:44:55,433 A lot of the stuff is edge cases and they 1432 00:44:55,433 --> 00:44:56,433 don't concern me as much. 1433 00:44:56,666 --> 00:44:57,133 Like I think the 1434 00:44:57,133 --> 00:44:58,666 research in this is fascinating. 1435 00:44:58,933 --> 00:44:59,866 I like it for research. 1436 00:44:59,866 --> 00:45:02,266 I'm a big proponent of research. 1437 00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:07,333 Implications of what 1438 00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,433 this will mean for cheating. 1439 00:45:08,833 --> 00:45:09,233 I don't know. 1440 00:45:09,733 --> 00:45:11,599 I think this will be a framework for 1441 00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:13,233 creating more hacks. 1442 00:45:13,466 --> 00:45:14,566 But right now I'm not too concerned. 1443 00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:18,066 I think we're just getting to a point 1444 00:45:18,066 --> 00:45:19,566 where like online games. 1445 00:45:20,033 --> 00:45:22,133 I mean, if this enables cheating, right, 1446 00:45:22,833 --> 00:45:24,366 I just feel like this 1447 00:45:24,366 --> 00:45:25,800 is kind of like end game 1448 00:45:25,966 --> 00:45:27,966 cheating and it's just going to make 1449 00:45:27,966 --> 00:45:30,233 online games unsustainable. 1450 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:33,066 Like because if you're not cheating, then 1451 00:45:33,066 --> 00:45:33,733 you're then you're 1452 00:45:33,733 --> 00:45:34,233 not going to be able to 1453 00:45:34,233 --> 00:45:35,900 even play because 1454 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:36,866 everyone's going to be cheating. 1455 00:45:37,166 --> 00:45:37,366 Right. 1456 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,366 That's the thing that I don't really find 1457 00:45:39,366 --> 00:45:40,466 the pleasure in cheating. 1458 00:45:40,833 --> 00:45:43,033 Like a long time ago, a long time ago, 1459 00:45:43,033 --> 00:45:45,666 back when Citi used to be 1460 00:45:45,666 --> 00:45:46,699 very popular on iPhones, 1461 00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:49,300 basically my brother and I on his phone, 1462 00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:50,333 we downloaded a mobile 1463 00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:53,166 game and had in-app purchases. 1464 00:45:53,166 --> 00:45:54,699 You can buy turrets and stuff. 1465 00:45:54,699 --> 00:45:55,599 It was a tower defense game. 1466 00:45:56,666 --> 00:45:59,099 And we hacked it so that we could get 1467 00:45:59,099 --> 00:46:00,533 free in-app purchases. 1468 00:46:01,666 --> 00:46:02,500 So we got all the 1469 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:03,566 strongest shit immediately. 1470 00:46:04,033 --> 00:46:05,733 The stuff you're supposed to pay for. 1471 00:46:06,733 --> 00:46:07,400 You're grind for. 1472 00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:09,466 And then the game was not 1473 00:46:09,466 --> 00:46:10,833 wasn't very fun anymore. 1474 00:46:11,266 --> 00:46:11,966 So I don't understand 1475 00:46:11,966 --> 00:46:13,633 how cheaters brains work. 1476 00:46:15,066 --> 00:46:16,766 Yeah, I mean, it's one thing if it's like 1477 00:46:16,766 --> 00:46:17,866 an online competitive 1478 00:46:17,866 --> 00:46:20,333 game, like I feel like 1479 00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:23,333 the people who cheat either want to spoil 1480 00:46:23,333 --> 00:46:25,133 everyone else's time and take pleasure in 1481 00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:25,400 that. 1482 00:46:25,633 --> 00:46:25,833 Yeah. 1483 00:46:26,633 --> 00:46:27,033 I think that's 1484 00:46:27,033 --> 00:46:28,000 probably what it comes from. 1485 00:46:28,333 --> 00:46:30,366 But like, but for me, like there are 1486 00:46:30,366 --> 00:46:31,966 times where I'm, you know, 1487 00:46:31,966 --> 00:46:34,199 I've I want to play spelunky, 1488 00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:36,733 but I don't want to like, I want to like 1489 00:46:36,733 --> 00:46:38,966 play a very specific version of spelunky 1490 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,266 where I have the the crazy alien gun and 1491 00:46:43,266 --> 00:46:45,166 the jetpack and then 1492 00:46:45,166 --> 00:46:46,933 I'll turn on like a trainer 1493 00:46:47,133 --> 00:46:48,300 and just play that way, 1494 00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:50,333 which is fun in its own way. 1495 00:46:50,766 --> 00:46:51,633 It's super chaotic. 1496 00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:55,033 I mean, that I mean, I don't mind. 1497 00:46:55,466 --> 00:46:56,533 I've modded games before 1498 00:46:56,533 --> 00:46:58,533 to like single player mods. 1499 00:46:58,533 --> 00:46:59,800 I don't care about it. 1500 00:46:59,866 --> 00:47:00,066 Yeah. 1501 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:00,966 Single player games. 1502 00:47:00,966 --> 00:47:01,733 I don't really care. 1503 00:47:03,133 --> 00:47:06,266 It's online games, like specifically. 1504 00:47:07,066 --> 00:47:08,300 And I think, Gardner, 1505 00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:08,766 I think you're correct. 1506 00:47:09,266 --> 00:47:11,133 So like cheaters are there's two types of 1507 00:47:11,133 --> 00:47:13,033 cheaters, I think one that wants to spoil 1508 00:47:13,033 --> 00:47:13,566 it for everyone. 1509 00:47:13,566 --> 00:47:14,900 They get a they get a kick out of 1510 00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:15,833 everyone else's life, 1511 00:47:16,233 --> 00:47:17,466 whether it be they're emotionally 1512 00:47:17,533 --> 00:47:18,199 damaged or whatnot. 1513 00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:19,166 And then I think there's also people that 1514 00:47:19,166 --> 00:47:21,066 just like, they have 1515 00:47:21,066 --> 00:47:22,733 to win so bad that they 1516 00:47:22,733 --> 00:47:24,733 trick themselves into like, well, I'm 1517 00:47:24,733 --> 00:47:25,666 sure everyone else is cheating. 1518 00:47:25,666 --> 00:47:26,400 So I'm going to cheat. 1519 00:47:27,033 --> 00:47:27,266 And then there's 1520 00:47:27,266 --> 00:47:28,233 essentially those two types. 1521 00:47:28,666 --> 00:47:29,366 And some and like I've 1522 00:47:29,366 --> 00:47:30,800 read some like cheater forums. 1523 00:47:31,333 --> 00:47:33,233 And some believe some cheaters believe 1524 00:47:33,233 --> 00:47:34,066 that no one would play 1525 00:47:34,066 --> 00:47:35,199 the a no one will play the 1526 00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:38,699 game without them or be oh, I feel myself 1527 00:47:38,699 --> 00:47:40,666 improving as I use this cheat. 1528 00:47:41,833 --> 00:47:43,033 Yeah, no, it's like 1529 00:47:43,033 --> 00:47:45,166 some level of delusion. 1530 00:47:46,699 --> 00:47:49,400 Honestly, I think if we had 1531 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,433 a I just sounds really off. 1532 00:47:51,433 --> 00:47:55,066 But if you had a hot take right now, if 1533 00:47:55,066 --> 00:47:56,366 you had a healthier 1534 00:47:56,366 --> 00:47:57,666 government and we tracked 1535 00:47:57,833 --> 00:47:58,699 these cheaters, I think 1536 00:47:58,699 --> 00:48:01,766 we'd get them mental health. 1537 00:48:02,766 --> 00:48:04,366 I think they would almost have been like 1538 00:48:04,366 --> 00:48:07,733 mandatory like, hey, we 1539 00:48:07,733 --> 00:48:09,933 can't trust you with a gun or 1540 00:48:09,933 --> 00:48:11,533 anything or anything else in life. 1541 00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:13,633 I tell you get some mental health because 1542 00:48:13,633 --> 00:48:16,833 that's some delusional shit right there. 1543 00:48:16,833 --> 00:48:18,933 Like you're you're delusional. 1544 00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:20,866 And so you need help. 1545 00:48:21,966 --> 00:48:22,300 Jensen Wong. 1546 00:48:24,266 --> 00:48:27,766 He probably needs that therapy to make 1547 00:48:27,766 --> 00:48:28,666 him not a narcissist. 1548 00:48:28,666 --> 00:48:29,966 I'm sure I think Jensen Wong 1549 00:48:29,966 --> 00:48:31,366 just needs some fried chicken. 1550 00:48:34,133 --> 00:48:38,533 You know, all live stream if Jensen Wong 1551 00:48:38,533 --> 00:48:39,366 wants to come here and 1552 00:48:39,366 --> 00:48:41,199 we go to Kanban together. 1553 00:48:42,233 --> 00:48:42,433 Banchan? 1554 00:48:43,099 --> 00:48:43,866 Banchan Kanban. 1555 00:48:44,266 --> 00:48:45,633 That's a that's a completely different 1556 00:48:45,633 --> 00:48:47,199 thing I'm not gonna get to the banchan. 1557 00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,033 Yeah, I'll live stream that. 1558 00:48:51,866 --> 00:48:53,266 Do you get some good fried chicken? 1559 00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:53,866 Hell yeah. 1560 00:48:53,866 --> 00:48:54,633 I mean, there's better. 1561 00:48:54,633 --> 00:48:55,833 There's better than banchan. 1562 00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:57,633 But yeah, yeah. 1563 00:48:57,633 --> 00:49:01,099 But what if we what if we name our 1564 00:49:01,099 --> 00:49:03,900 company, you know, Korean 1565 00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:05,166 Fried Chicken Incorporated, 1566 00:49:05,566 --> 00:49:08,066 and then we deep fake ourselves having 1567 00:49:08,066 --> 00:49:11,633 banchan or Korean Fried Chicken 1568 00:49:11,633 --> 00:49:12,666 Incorporated chicken 1569 00:49:13,066 --> 00:49:14,166 with what's his name? 1570 00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:15,233 Jensen Wong. 1571 00:49:15,666 --> 00:49:16,066 Jensen Wong. 1572 00:49:16,266 --> 00:49:16,766 And then we could 1573 00:49:16,766 --> 00:49:18,966 artificially pump up our stock prices. 1574 00:49:19,466 --> 00:49:21,900 And he's proven that it's OK to do that. 1575 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,366 So let's do it. 1576 00:49:23,366 --> 00:49:26,466 It's how you make our buck, you know, Mr. 1577 00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:28,099 Adam Jepson Wong himself. 1578 00:49:29,166 --> 00:49:30,066 I wonder if it work. 1579 00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:32,000 Yeah, I don't know. 1580 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,866 We did we we predicted what 2026 is going 1581 00:49:34,866 --> 00:49:37,633 to be like in our bonus show. 1582 00:49:37,833 --> 00:49:39,033 And that's I'm changing 1583 00:49:39,033 --> 00:49:40,266 my prediction to that now. 1584 00:49:40,666 --> 00:49:41,699 That's that's how we win. 1585 00:49:41,966 --> 00:49:43,800 That's how we make our bag. 1586 00:49:44,266 --> 00:49:48,800 I don't want to incorporate or no, no, 1587 00:49:48,866 --> 00:49:49,333 incorporating is fine. 1588 00:49:49,366 --> 00:49:51,466 I don't want to go public. 1589 00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:54,066 We'll just say we went 1590 00:49:54,066 --> 00:49:55,933 public and then don't. 1591 00:49:56,466 --> 00:49:56,633 We. 1592 00:49:56,633 --> 00:49:59,233 Yeah, we say we went public to pump up 1593 00:49:59,233 --> 00:50:01,300 our artificial public 1594 00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:05,133 price and nothing makes sense 1595 00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:06,133 anymore so that we can do that. 1596 00:50:06,133 --> 00:50:06,566 None of this is going to 1597 00:50:06,566 --> 00:50:07,666 work unless we do a crypto. 1598 00:50:07,666 --> 00:50:08,133 We're going to have to do 1599 00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:09,066 an off the console crypto. 1600 00:50:09,066 --> 00:50:09,699 Oh, right. 1601 00:50:09,699 --> 00:50:10,033 Yes. 1602 00:50:10,033 --> 00:50:10,233 OK. 1603 00:50:10,433 --> 00:50:12,933 We do a crypto, a publicly traded crypto. 1604 00:50:13,166 --> 00:50:13,699 Yeah. 1605 00:50:14,166 --> 00:50:14,466 OK. 1606 00:50:14,466 --> 00:50:15,266 It's all coming together. 1607 00:50:15,766 --> 00:50:15,966 OK. 1608 00:50:16,366 --> 00:50:16,566 Yeah. 1609 00:50:16,766 --> 00:50:17,966 I like this idea now. 1610 00:50:19,166 --> 00:50:19,366 I think it's not going 1611 00:50:19,366 --> 00:50:20,300 to take a lot of work. 1612 00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:21,133 Right. 1613 00:50:21,366 --> 00:50:22,533 Becoming publicly traded 1614 00:50:22,533 --> 00:50:24,733 is very difficult, guys. 1615 00:50:25,033 --> 00:50:26,766 So, uh, yeah. 1616 00:50:27,833 --> 00:50:29,333 Uh, you know, those are difficult. 1617 00:50:31,066 --> 00:50:32,099 Killing the Xbox brand. 1618 00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:32,866 That's difficult. 1619 00:50:33,433 --> 00:50:34,166 Not for Microsoft. 1620 00:50:34,666 --> 00:50:35,166 It's easy. 1621 00:50:35,666 --> 00:50:36,866 They're they're on easy mode. 1622 00:50:39,433 --> 00:50:42,033 When you're a man, when you're a company 1623 00:50:42,033 --> 00:50:43,166 as big as Microsoft, 1624 00:50:43,566 --> 00:50:44,433 doing stuff like this 1625 00:50:44,433 --> 00:50:45,800 is as easy as it gets. 1626 00:50:46,333 --> 00:50:47,033 Yeah. 1627 00:50:49,033 --> 00:50:53,233 So, here's my question, though. 1628 00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:55,733 What happens when Microsoft dies? 1629 00:50:56,066 --> 00:50:59,133 Because when Sega, not Microsoft, because 1630 00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:00,666 remember, when Sega 1631 00:51:00,666 --> 00:51:02,766 exited the market, Microsoft 1632 00:51:02,766 --> 00:51:04,433 was just there getting ready. 1633 00:51:06,633 --> 00:51:06,833 Technically that 1634 00:51:06,833 --> 00:51:08,466 generation had four consoles. 1635 00:51:10,533 --> 00:51:12,166 Who's going to take Xbox's place? 1636 00:51:12,166 --> 00:51:13,166 Because I don't think we 1637 00:51:13,166 --> 00:51:15,466 really have a real competitor. 1638 00:51:16,366 --> 00:51:16,733 Steam machine. 1639 00:51:16,966 --> 00:51:17,199 That helped. 1640 00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:17,733 Yeah. 1641 00:51:18,766 --> 00:51:19,766 Oh, dude. 1642 00:51:20,933 --> 00:51:23,533 I, I honestly, I don't 1643 00:51:23,533 --> 00:51:25,266 believe in the Xbox is dead thing. 1644 00:51:25,266 --> 00:51:26,433 I think they're morphing into something 1645 00:51:26,433 --> 00:51:27,266 else that I think is 1646 00:51:27,266 --> 00:51:28,566 like they're going to get 1647 00:51:28,566 --> 00:51:29,333 a new market. 1648 00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:30,933 They're going to get new people to join. 1649 00:51:31,433 --> 00:51:32,466 I think they're going to lose a lot of 1650 00:51:32,466 --> 00:51:33,733 the older gamers, but I 1651 00:51:33,733 --> 00:51:34,733 think they're fine with 1652 00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:34,966 that. 1653 00:51:34,966 --> 00:51:35,966 I think they're just all 1654 00:51:35,966 --> 00:51:38,733 about these like weird plays. 1655 00:51:40,133 --> 00:51:42,633 I don't think Xbox is, in my opinion, I 1656 00:51:42,633 --> 00:51:43,433 don't, I think I'm 1657 00:51:43,433 --> 00:51:44,333 convinced now that they're not 1658 00:51:44,366 --> 00:51:44,633 dying. 1659 00:51:45,366 --> 00:51:47,666 That pivot is killing the market for what 1660 00:51:47,666 --> 00:51:50,199 a lot of people want an Xbox for. 1661 00:51:50,433 --> 00:51:53,166 So what if their market was to kill the 1662 00:51:53,166 --> 00:51:54,366 console market altogether? 1663 00:51:56,733 --> 00:51:58,966 They I think their pivot is they don't 1664 00:51:58,966 --> 00:52:00,300 see the console market 1665 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:02,033 lasting past 10 more years. 1666 00:52:03,133 --> 00:52:04,766 I think the next generation is going to 1667 00:52:04,766 --> 00:52:05,366 be the last generation 1668 00:52:05,366 --> 00:52:06,233 is what they're thinking. 1669 00:52:06,233 --> 00:52:08,133 That's why they're jumping ship. 1670 00:52:08,433 --> 00:52:09,500 Personally, that's what I think. 1671 00:52:11,266 --> 00:52:12,533 What would happen to Nintendo though? 1672 00:52:12,533 --> 00:52:16,533 Because Nintendo is almost all video 1673 00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:18,266 games, more specific consoles. 1674 00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:20,199 Whereas Sony, even Sony's released games 1675 00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:23,133 on PC now and Sony's a 1676 00:52:23,133 --> 00:52:24,166 multi-billion dollar company 1677 00:52:24,166 --> 00:52:24,966 that does more than 1678 00:52:24,966 --> 00:52:25,933 video games, of course. 1679 00:52:27,033 --> 00:52:27,400 But Nintendo? 1680 00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:30,766 I think Nintendo's almost 1681 00:52:30,766 --> 00:52:32,133 failed multiple times in the past. 1682 00:52:32,433 --> 00:52:34,266 So I think they're full of themselves. 1683 00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:35,866 I think they could still 1684 00:52:35,866 --> 00:52:37,300 potentially fail at this point. 1685 00:52:39,066 --> 00:52:40,966 The Switch 2 was, I was worried that the 1686 00:52:40,966 --> 00:52:41,566 Switch 2 was going to be 1687 00:52:41,566 --> 00:52:43,133 sold out this holidays. 1688 00:52:43,333 --> 00:52:43,833 It's not. 1689 00:52:44,066 --> 00:52:44,966 A lot of places still 1690 00:52:44,966 --> 00:52:45,933 have plenty of Switch 2's. 1691 00:52:46,166 --> 00:52:50,433 So I don't know if Nintendo is going to 1692 00:52:50,433 --> 00:52:52,433 do as well with Switch 2 as the Switch 1. 1693 00:52:53,366 --> 00:52:54,433 Heck, I even think the 1694 00:52:54,433 --> 00:52:55,866 PS5 outsold the Switch 2. 1695 00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:01,466 Switch 2 did really well numbers. 1696 00:53:01,466 --> 00:53:02,633 It did much better than the Steam Deck. 1697 00:53:03,066 --> 00:53:05,333 You know, even at this point, it sold 1698 00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:05,966 more than what the Steam 1699 00:53:05,966 --> 00:53:07,333 Deck sold all its life. 1700 00:53:07,699 --> 00:53:13,266 But, you know, they plan to sell a lot. 1701 00:53:13,266 --> 00:53:15,033 And if they don't sell enough and with 1702 00:53:15,033 --> 00:53:16,966 how much more stock 1703 00:53:16,966 --> 00:53:19,433 that they have, then they 1704 00:53:19,433 --> 00:53:20,133 could hurt a lot of stuff. 1705 00:53:20,866 --> 00:53:21,933 So we'll see. 1706 00:53:22,133 --> 00:53:23,400 10 years from now, we'll see if 1707 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,666 Nintendo's still going to 1708 00:53:24,666 --> 00:53:26,733 be able to be in the purely 1709 00:53:26,733 --> 00:53:29,466 console industry or if they're going to 1710 00:53:29,466 --> 00:53:30,266 have to start releasing 1711 00:53:30,266 --> 00:53:33,366 games for PC or other platforms. 1712 00:53:34,266 --> 00:53:35,166 A little time will only tell. 1713 00:53:36,033 --> 00:53:37,133 I think they're pretty stubborn. 1714 00:53:37,366 --> 00:53:38,033 So I think they would 1715 00:53:38,033 --> 00:53:40,166 almost just die at this point. 1716 00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:41,866 They'd go back to making 1717 00:53:41,866 --> 00:53:43,966 what are those Hanafuda cards? 1718 00:53:45,033 --> 00:53:45,466 Yeah. 1719 00:53:46,066 --> 00:53:46,266 Yeah. 1720 00:53:46,933 --> 00:53:48,166 I think they'd go back to 1721 00:53:48,166 --> 00:53:50,433 doing just toys or something. 1722 00:53:50,933 --> 00:53:54,066 But no, they're not like a cockroach like 1723 00:53:54,066 --> 00:53:54,866 Xbox where they're 1724 00:53:54,866 --> 00:53:55,633 going to survive no matter 1725 00:53:55,633 --> 00:53:55,966 what. 1726 00:53:57,966 --> 00:54:00,800 Yeah, I feel like, dude, OK, so if 1727 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,300 Microsoft just exits the 1728 00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:04,866 console market, what if Sega 1729 00:54:04,933 --> 00:54:07,733 came back and made a 1730 00:54:07,733 --> 00:54:09,766 Sega branded steam machine? 1731 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,766 A Sega branded steam machine? 1732 00:54:13,266 --> 00:54:13,466 Yeah. 1733 00:54:13,966 --> 00:54:15,466 The Dreamcast 2? 1734 00:54:16,366 --> 00:54:16,800 Ooh. 1735 00:54:17,366 --> 00:54:21,099 I think the part of Sega that the people 1736 00:54:21,099 --> 00:54:22,466 that made the Dreamcast 1737 00:54:22,466 --> 00:54:24,699 were bought or essentially 1738 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,666 hired by Xbox. 1739 00:54:26,266 --> 00:54:26,466 Right. 1740 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,000 So were they? 1741 00:54:28,666 --> 00:54:29,400 I think so. 1742 00:54:29,866 --> 00:54:31,300 I could be wrong about that, but I swear 1743 00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:32,233 I resummed it on a lot 1744 00:54:32,233 --> 00:54:33,233 too long ago that like 1745 00:54:33,666 --> 00:54:35,366 a lot of the people that made the 1746 00:54:35,366 --> 00:54:36,233 Dreamcast went over to 1747 00:54:36,233 --> 00:54:37,400 Xbox and made the Xbox. 1748 00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:40,166 I could be wrong, though. 1749 00:54:40,833 --> 00:54:42,000 I wonder where they are now, though. 1750 00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:43,566 Are they going to go back to Sega now 1751 00:54:43,566 --> 00:54:44,766 that they're probably 1752 00:54:44,766 --> 00:54:46,966 retired or, you know, yeah, 1753 00:54:47,366 --> 00:54:48,333 a hundred years old and 1754 00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:49,033 then a retirement home. 1755 00:54:49,033 --> 00:54:49,599 I'm just kidding. 1756 00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:53,233 But the Dreamcast came out in 1999. 1757 00:54:54,033 --> 00:54:55,733 Like, yeah. 1758 00:54:57,866 --> 00:54:59,000 The Sega, I think Sega 1759 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,033 making hardware is over, guys. 1760 00:55:01,266 --> 00:55:01,633 I'm sorry. 1761 00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:05,566 You got to boo boo every 1762 00:55:05,566 --> 00:55:07,199 good idea that I ever have. 1763 00:55:07,466 --> 00:55:08,233 I'm sorry. 1764 00:55:08,233 --> 00:55:10,099 It would be really it would be cool for 1765 00:55:10,099 --> 00:55:12,000 them to do a Sega branded 1766 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,766 X-Box or a steam machine. 1767 00:55:14,666 --> 00:55:15,233 Streamcast. 1768 00:55:16,066 --> 00:55:16,666 The Streamcast. 1769 00:55:18,466 --> 00:55:19,233 It's all about streaming. 1770 00:55:19,933 --> 00:55:20,133 Yeah. 1771 00:55:22,566 --> 00:55:23,466 That would be the 1772 00:55:23,466 --> 00:55:25,199 Steamcast, not the Streamcast. 1773 00:55:25,566 --> 00:55:25,866 Steamcast. 1774 00:55:26,833 --> 00:55:27,033 Okay. 1775 00:55:27,666 --> 00:55:28,433 Steamcast. 1776 00:55:28,933 --> 00:55:29,133 Yeah. 1777 00:55:30,233 --> 00:55:30,500 I don't know. 1778 00:55:30,733 --> 00:55:32,666 I think that would be cool. 1779 00:55:32,866 --> 00:55:35,233 But, you know, if it comes down to it, I 1780 00:55:35,233 --> 00:55:37,466 just want first party hardware. 1781 00:55:37,466 --> 00:55:38,133 I don't really care. 1782 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,866 Sega made a steam machine. 1783 00:55:44,366 --> 00:55:46,199 If Sega made it, yeah, I agree. 1784 00:55:46,433 --> 00:55:47,099 Like at the end of the 1785 00:55:47,099 --> 00:55:48,133 day, that was the thing. 1786 00:55:48,133 --> 00:55:49,366 I think that's why I'm like, I don't know 1787 00:55:49,366 --> 00:55:50,466 if I care about Xbox, 1788 00:55:50,766 --> 00:55:51,933 like Xbox and Microsoft's 1789 00:55:51,933 --> 00:55:52,566 play so much. 1790 00:55:52,566 --> 00:55:54,866 Like, I think they have so many studios, 1791 00:55:54,866 --> 00:55:56,066 so much IP if they I 1792 00:55:56,066 --> 00:55:56,800 mean, if they can actually 1793 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,199 start making sure that more and more 1794 00:55:58,199 --> 00:55:59,033 stuff comes out, which I 1795 00:55:59,033 --> 00:56:00,066 think they I think this 1796 00:56:00,099 --> 00:56:02,699 last year was a fairly good year for 1797 00:56:02,699 --> 00:56:03,500 them, even though I know 1798 00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:04,766 I've read so many mixed 1799 00:56:04,766 --> 00:56:05,533 articles on this. 1800 00:56:05,533 --> 00:56:06,466 Like some people, like it's the worst 1801 00:56:06,466 --> 00:56:07,533 year they've had others 1802 00:56:07,533 --> 00:56:08,833 like, no, like they've 1803 00:56:09,266 --> 00:56:10,933 sold more or they've had more people play 1804 00:56:10,933 --> 00:56:12,033 games than they've ever had. 1805 00:56:12,333 --> 00:56:14,366 It's I'm fatigued at 1806 00:56:14,366 --> 00:56:15,466 this point on this battle. 1807 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,966 I think they're going to do just fine. 1808 00:56:19,133 --> 00:56:19,800 I don't think they're 1809 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,900 going to die anytime soon. 1810 00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:22,066 I think they have too much IP. 1811 00:56:22,066 --> 00:56:24,333 I think they've set themselves up. 1812 00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:26,833 But I do think the Xbox brand as it is, 1813 00:56:26,833 --> 00:56:29,066 is pretty much dead. 1814 00:56:29,366 --> 00:56:30,266 It's not a console anymore. 1815 00:56:31,300 --> 00:56:33,433 So is Xbox dead? 1816 00:56:34,866 --> 00:56:36,966 No, Xbox as a brand is not dead. 1817 00:56:37,166 --> 00:56:39,333 Xbox as a as a console is dead. 1818 00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:40,766 I think just like I 1819 00:56:40,766 --> 00:56:43,633 would put it that way. 1820 00:56:44,933 --> 00:56:45,633 I don't know. 1821 00:56:45,633 --> 00:56:47,333 I feel like they can 1822 00:56:47,333 --> 00:56:48,533 have all the IP they want. 1823 00:56:48,533 --> 00:56:50,500 They're not making games like they have. 1824 00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:52,333 They've canceled more games about making 1825 00:56:52,333 --> 00:56:53,266 the games that are 1826 00:56:53,266 --> 00:56:55,366 literally making a Halo remake. 1827 00:56:56,166 --> 00:56:58,199 They've made more games than any other 1828 00:56:58,199 --> 00:56:59,266 company, I think in 1829 00:56:59,266 --> 00:57:01,066 twenty twenty six or five. 1830 00:57:01,066 --> 00:57:02,099 I mean, yeah, but like, I 1831 00:57:02,099 --> 00:57:03,533 mean, Indiana Jones, right. 1832 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,500 They made the Dark Ages. 1833 00:57:06,066 --> 00:57:06,566 Oh, was it? 1834 00:57:07,133 --> 00:57:07,333 Yeah. 1835 00:57:07,566 --> 00:57:08,566 But I mean, doing the 1836 00:57:08,566 --> 00:57:10,366 Dark Ages was not good. 1837 00:57:10,733 --> 00:57:11,900 Like it was very. 1838 00:57:13,166 --> 00:57:13,866 That's a hot take. 1839 00:57:14,833 --> 00:57:15,933 It's a little bit. 1840 00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:17,233 It's definitely divisive. 1841 00:57:17,233 --> 00:57:17,800 I liked it. 1842 00:57:17,966 --> 00:57:19,033 I ended up beating it. 1843 00:57:19,033 --> 00:57:21,166 I ended up liking it, but it was not as 1844 00:57:21,166 --> 00:57:22,800 good as Doom Eternal. 1845 00:57:23,633 --> 00:57:24,633 No, I don't know. 1846 00:57:25,466 --> 00:57:26,099 And they cancel. 1847 00:57:26,099 --> 00:57:26,866 They've canceled a 1848 00:57:26,866 --> 00:57:28,866 shitload of games, too. 1849 00:57:29,066 --> 00:57:30,466 Like I just don't know, man. 1850 00:57:30,699 --> 00:57:31,633 I just don't see it. 1851 00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:33,900 I think Microsoft's incapable of doing 1852 00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:34,766 good things anymore. 1853 00:57:37,866 --> 00:57:38,066 Windows. 1854 00:57:38,066 --> 00:57:38,966 I mean, on the way. 1855 00:57:39,133 --> 00:57:41,199 So studios, people are starting to have 1856 00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:44,433 more and more windows for the best. 1857 00:57:45,533 --> 00:57:47,333 Small fiction is an EA game, isn't it? 1858 00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:47,733 It's not. 1859 00:57:47,733 --> 00:57:48,733 Yes, EA and Xbox. 1860 00:57:49,433 --> 00:57:49,633 Yeah. 1861 00:57:50,566 --> 00:57:52,366 Then this article is like broken. 1862 00:57:52,766 --> 00:57:55,133 This must be just Xbox or games that are 1863 00:57:55,133 --> 00:57:57,033 on the Xbox Game Pass because. 1864 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:58,933 Well, you look at. 1865 00:58:00,466 --> 00:58:01,533 I'm not showing it right 1866 00:58:01,533 --> 00:58:02,533 now because I don't trust it. 1867 00:58:02,533 --> 00:58:03,333 It's from games. 1868 00:58:05,433 --> 00:58:06,733 OK, sorry, I'm trying to look up games 1869 00:58:06,733 --> 00:58:07,666 that came out this year. 1870 00:58:09,099 --> 00:58:09,933 That were Xbox. 1871 00:58:09,933 --> 00:58:11,766 And I'm yeah, I guess if you anything 1872 00:58:11,766 --> 00:58:12,733 that's on Game Pass, if 1873 00:58:12,733 --> 00:58:13,266 you want to put that, but 1874 00:58:13,666 --> 00:58:14,266 that's not true. 1875 00:58:14,266 --> 00:58:15,833 Like Expedition 33 is not. 1876 00:58:17,133 --> 00:58:18,066 An Xbox studio. 1877 00:58:19,766 --> 00:58:20,099 It's. 1878 00:58:20,466 --> 00:58:22,766 It's I found the same article you're 1879 00:58:22,766 --> 00:58:25,099 looking at the game spot one. 1880 00:58:25,099 --> 00:58:25,833 Yes, garbage. 1881 00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:27,800 Games, but if you want 1882 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,733 to put it up garbage. 1883 00:58:29,433 --> 00:58:32,800 Yeah, if you want to put it like in those 1884 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,433 types of like they had 1885 00:58:34,433 --> 00:58:35,199 some of the best games 1886 00:58:35,333 --> 00:58:38,233 on their game pass, that being said, 1887 00:58:38,966 --> 00:58:41,966 studio wise, yeah, we'd have to go. 1888 00:58:41,966 --> 00:58:43,300 I'd have to dig down and see what 1889 00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:44,233 actually they released, 1890 00:58:44,233 --> 00:58:45,766 like a vowed didn't do well. 1891 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,133 Yeah, we could do that. 1892 00:58:49,166 --> 00:58:50,699 Maybe some other time in a bonus episode. 1893 00:58:51,433 --> 00:58:53,800 I think it'd take too much time here, but 1894 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,933 we are taking a lot of time to be honest. 1895 00:58:57,333 --> 00:59:00,633 I think Xbox is going to be fine, but I 1896 00:59:00,633 --> 00:59:01,400 think the next few years 1897 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,333 are going to be the tell 1898 00:59:02,333 --> 00:59:02,933 for it. 1899 00:59:03,266 --> 00:59:05,066 So I could definitely be wrong on that. 1900 00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:06,766 Well, I'm more curious 1901 00:59:06,766 --> 00:59:09,900 about our our good friend EA. 1902 00:59:11,266 --> 00:59:12,066 Owners of Dead Space 1903 00:59:12,066 --> 00:59:13,066 and Command and Conquer. 1904 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:15,000 Hmm. 1905 00:59:16,733 --> 00:59:18,233 Yeah, and your co-host. 1906 00:59:18,566 --> 00:59:18,766 No. 1907 00:59:20,566 --> 00:59:21,033 What's that? 1908 00:59:21,633 --> 00:59:22,466 I said, hi, tech, you 1909 00:59:22,466 --> 00:59:24,633 know your your co-hosts well. 1910 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:25,966 Yes. 1911 00:59:27,266 --> 00:59:30,166 So 99 percent of all EA shareholders 1912 00:59:30,166 --> 00:59:33,166 voted in favor of the 1913 00:59:33,166 --> 00:59:34,533 Saudi Arabian buyout. 1914 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,266 Fifty five billion dollars. 1915 00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:40,733 I think we're cooked on that one. 1916 00:59:40,733 --> 00:59:44,466 I think 99 is pretty high. 1917 00:59:44,466 --> 00:59:46,066 I'd expect much more 1918 00:59:46,066 --> 00:59:48,666 like maybe 80 percent. 1919 00:59:48,666 --> 00:59:49,833 I expected some resistance. 1920 00:59:50,133 --> 00:59:50,333 Yeah. 1921 00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,866 But almost none, almost none, literally. 1922 00:59:56,099 --> 00:59:58,533 But it's got all their stock. 1923 00:59:58,533 --> 00:59:59,199 I should have bought stock. 1924 00:59:59,666 --> 01:00:01,133 No, I should have bought 1925 01:00:01,133 --> 01:00:02,633 stock earlier this year. 1926 01:00:03,099 --> 01:00:05,233 No, any A, but no, it's going to bump 1927 01:00:05,233 --> 01:00:06,666 their stock up by 25 percent. 1928 01:00:06,666 --> 01:00:08,433 So I see why. 1929 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:11,666 But I was expecting like 1930 01:00:11,666 --> 01:00:13,933 some of these guys to be. 1931 01:00:14,066 --> 01:00:15,133 Well, it's Saudi led, so 1932 01:00:15,133 --> 01:00:17,333 maybe I won't like it can't be. 1933 01:00:18,133 --> 01:00:20,366 Yeah, the whole thing was 1934 01:00:20,366 --> 01:00:21,233 that they were going private. 1935 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:23,266 Yeah. 1936 01:00:23,266 --> 01:00:24,000 Oh, that's true. 1937 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,066 So they get bought out. 1938 01:00:25,066 --> 01:00:26,166 Yeah, buyout with 25 1939 01:00:26,166 --> 01:00:27,433 percent is really good, guys. 1940 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,533 Like they're just going to. 1941 01:00:30,533 --> 01:00:32,666 Yeah, their stock is getting bought out. 1942 01:00:32,866 --> 01:00:33,566 Yeah, I forgot. 1943 01:00:33,566 --> 01:00:34,866 Yeah, that they're going private. 1944 01:00:35,366 --> 01:00:35,566 Yeah. 1945 01:00:37,166 --> 01:00:37,366 Damn. 1946 01:00:38,366 --> 01:00:38,833 I mean, interesting. 1947 01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:42,166 I mean, on the actual on the actual 1948 01:00:42,166 --> 01:00:43,166 gaming side of things, 1949 01:00:43,166 --> 01:00:45,133 there's nothing newsworthy. 1950 01:00:45,133 --> 01:00:46,033 But on the business side 1951 01:00:46,033 --> 01:00:47,066 of things, it's a huge deal. 1952 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,400 I mean, for sure. 1953 01:00:49,033 --> 01:00:49,566 They're going to be. 1954 01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:50,833 This will affect the games. 1955 01:00:51,066 --> 01:00:52,133 It will affect the games. 1956 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,366 It hasn't just yet. 1957 01:00:54,066 --> 01:00:55,233 That's what next year is going to be for. 1958 01:00:56,333 --> 01:00:56,800 We probably should have 1959 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,933 made a prediction about EA. 1960 01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:03,633 Will bring back dead space 1961 01:01:03,633 --> 01:01:05,166 and or command and conquer. 1962 01:01:07,733 --> 01:01:09,333 That is such an interesting thing because 1963 01:01:09,333 --> 01:01:10,833 being publicly owned, I 1964 01:01:10,833 --> 01:01:11,733 don't think they would 1965 01:01:11,733 --> 01:01:13,566 have been privately owned. 1966 01:01:14,066 --> 01:01:16,400 And depending on if the Saudi prince 1967 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,633 likes dead space or 1968 01:01:17,633 --> 01:01:18,966 command and conquer, it could 1969 01:01:18,966 --> 01:01:19,666 bring it back. 1970 01:01:20,066 --> 01:01:21,900 There's when you get privately owned, you 1971 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,533 can have a lot more stakeholders that are 1972 01:01:24,533 --> 01:01:27,933 that want something that's not fully 1973 01:01:27,933 --> 01:01:29,966 based off of price or profit. 1974 01:01:30,833 --> 01:01:34,699 So well, I mean, a game like CNC is 1975 01:01:34,699 --> 01:01:37,266 uniquely poised to be 1976 01:01:37,266 --> 01:01:37,533 something that's not fully based 1977 01:01:37,566 --> 01:01:39,833 some kind of like 1978 01:01:39,833 --> 01:01:41,866 propaganda to some degree. 1979 01:01:42,266 --> 01:01:42,466 Right. 1980 01:01:42,866 --> 01:01:45,433 I mean, command and conquer, if you set 1981 01:01:45,433 --> 01:01:48,333 it in the red alert or 1982 01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:50,466 even the general's universe. 1983 01:01:50,733 --> 01:01:51,033 Right. 1984 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,666 Like, yeah, you could then make Saudi 1985 01:01:53,666 --> 01:01:55,133 Arabia look really nice. 1986 01:01:55,133 --> 01:01:55,766 You know, they could be 1987 01:01:55,766 --> 01:01:56,900 part of the good guys. 1988 01:01:56,900 --> 01:01:59,366 You know, like there's a lot that that 1989 01:01:59,366 --> 01:02:00,533 they could use that for. 1990 01:02:01,933 --> 01:02:03,266 They might see value in that. 1991 01:02:03,866 --> 01:02:07,766 And if they make a good CNC game and it's 1992 01:02:07,766 --> 01:02:10,133 also like just even just 1993 01:02:10,133 --> 01:02:11,066 a little bit propaganda. 1994 01:02:12,666 --> 01:02:15,366 You know, that has the potential to make 1995 01:02:15,366 --> 01:02:17,466 money and whitewash their 1996 01:02:17,466 --> 01:02:19,633 or sports wash or whatever 1997 01:02:19,633 --> 01:02:21,033 the equivalent would be with games. 1998 01:02:22,900 --> 01:02:23,566 Well, it could be worse. 1999 01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:26,266 We could live in a world where North 2000 01:02:26,266 --> 01:02:27,733 Korea bought EA instead. 2001 01:02:30,266 --> 01:02:32,533 I mean, North Korea doesn't have any type 2002 01:02:32,533 --> 01:02:33,433 of funds to do that. 2003 01:02:34,633 --> 01:02:37,233 No, but they have the nukes and the 2004 01:02:37,233 --> 01:02:38,199 ability to kidnap people. 2005 01:02:39,566 --> 01:02:40,033 Not really. 2006 01:02:40,866 --> 01:02:41,733 They kind of do. 2007 01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:42,533 Kind of. 2008 01:02:42,533 --> 01:02:44,666 I'm not I'm not that worried about North 2009 01:02:44,666 --> 01:02:46,933 Korea, but I just 2010 01:02:46,933 --> 01:02:47,599 thought it'd be interesting. 2011 01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:49,766 But sorry. 2012 01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:50,099 No, sorry. 2013 01:02:50,566 --> 01:02:50,766 Sorry. 2014 01:02:51,966 --> 01:02:52,566 I don't know. 2015 01:02:53,066 --> 01:02:56,433 It's it's kind of a crazy thing for a 2016 01:02:56,433 --> 01:02:58,500 whole country to own a 2017 01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:00,166 company as a gaming company. 2018 01:03:00,233 --> 01:03:01,466 A company as big as EA. 2019 01:03:02,233 --> 01:03:02,766 Yeah. 2020 01:03:03,466 --> 01:03:04,466 Like, I don't think we've ever seen 2021 01:03:04,466 --> 01:03:05,400 anything like this before, right? 2022 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,766 I mean, I guess you could say Tencent 2023 01:03:08,766 --> 01:03:09,766 works with the Chinese 2024 01:03:09,766 --> 01:03:11,833 government to a degree. 2025 01:03:13,099 --> 01:03:14,400 Yeah, they're not fully they're not 2026 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,233 really owned, but they 2027 01:03:15,233 --> 01:03:16,400 have to adhere to a lot of 2028 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,699 the laws and stuff like that. 2029 01:03:18,099 --> 01:03:18,566 Yeah, yeah. 2030 01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:20,033 It is different. 2031 01:03:20,033 --> 01:03:22,333 This is you can think of it as a company 2032 01:03:22,333 --> 01:03:23,300 having a start the stock 2033 01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:25,266 portfolio or like a private 2034 01:03:25,366 --> 01:03:26,933 investment firm having. 2035 01:03:28,466 --> 01:03:30,633 And like this is for the country. 2036 01:03:30,633 --> 01:03:31,633 It's not like the 2037 01:03:31,633 --> 01:03:33,633 individuals of the country benefit. 2038 01:03:33,966 --> 01:03:37,933 This is a fund that they have to help 2039 01:03:37,933 --> 01:03:39,066 grow the country itself 2040 01:03:39,066 --> 01:03:40,800 diversify and then also 2041 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,199 promote the country in 2042 01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:43,666 some way or form or fashion. 2043 01:03:44,466 --> 01:03:46,133 They know oil is not 2044 01:03:46,133 --> 01:03:47,333 going to last forever. 2045 01:03:47,666 --> 01:03:48,833 And they're actually doing something 2046 01:03:48,833 --> 01:03:49,866 about it, which is smart. 2047 01:03:50,599 --> 01:03:51,733 Unfortunately, some of our other 2048 01:03:51,733 --> 01:03:53,366 countries, like the one I 2049 01:03:53,366 --> 01:03:55,033 might live in, doesn't really 2050 01:03:55,099 --> 01:03:56,800 understand that oil is not going to last 2051 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,400 forever and you have to diversify. 2052 01:04:00,066 --> 01:04:02,566 Even though the oil companies do 2053 01:04:02,566 --> 01:04:03,933 diversify too, but yeah. 2054 01:04:06,666 --> 01:04:07,066 Yeah. 2055 01:04:07,166 --> 01:04:11,699 So I don't know if it's going to change a 2056 01:04:11,699 --> 01:04:13,466 whole lot for the next few years. 2057 01:04:13,466 --> 01:04:16,400 I bet you they function just the same. 2058 01:04:17,833 --> 01:04:20,366 Maybe they'll try, maybe they'll be 2059 01:04:20,366 --> 01:04:23,333 convinced to sell some of their IP. 2060 01:04:23,366 --> 01:04:26,000 I'm hoping the Dead Space IP gets sold to 2061 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,166 a smaller studio or 2062 01:04:28,166 --> 01:04:29,433 publisher that wants to 2063 01:04:29,433 --> 01:04:30,400 make more Dead Space 2064 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,566 because it would make money. 2065 01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,199 If they could sell it at a reasonable 2066 01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:39,133 cost, like, hey, I don't 2067 01:04:39,133 --> 01:04:40,633 know, $10 million, sell 2068 01:04:40,633 --> 01:04:42,533 it off and then the next company that 2069 01:04:42,533 --> 01:04:43,699 makes or the next dev 2070 01:04:43,699 --> 01:04:44,566 studio that makes it, they 2071 01:04:44,566 --> 01:04:46,000 can easily make a game 2072 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,500 that would pay for all that. 2073 01:04:51,033 --> 01:04:52,233 Command and Conquer, I think is another 2074 01:04:52,233 --> 01:04:53,466 one where I think if 2075 01:04:53,466 --> 01:04:55,433 we had a game that came 2076 01:04:55,433 --> 01:04:59,033 out, Command and Conquer come out, like a 2077 01:04:59,033 --> 01:05:02,533 real true new Command and Conquer, that's 2078 01:05:02,533 --> 01:05:04,500 a smaller studio could 2079 01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,266 easily not be in the negative. 2080 01:05:07,266 --> 01:05:08,166 It'd be in the positive. 2081 01:05:09,366 --> 01:05:11,366 It's just companies are too used to 2082 01:05:11,366 --> 01:05:12,933 wanting to 10X everything 2083 01:05:12,933 --> 01:05:15,366 that if it does a 10X, even 2084 01:05:15,433 --> 01:05:18,500 if it makes them 4X, they consider that a 2085 01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:19,933 loss, which is crazy. 2086 01:05:22,566 --> 01:05:23,900 When they could just put, like, stop 2087 01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:25,633 firing people, put some of 2088 01:05:25,633 --> 01:05:27,333 the other people on there. 2089 01:05:27,333 --> 01:05:27,666 I don't know. 2090 01:05:27,666 --> 01:05:28,566 I could go into this whole thing. 2091 01:05:28,566 --> 01:05:30,533 I think we could definitely fix it if we 2092 01:05:30,533 --> 01:05:35,266 weren't so much chasing the 10X dollar. 2093 01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:36,466 Yeah. 2094 01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:37,933 Yeah. 2095 01:05:39,366 --> 01:05:39,633 Yeah. 2096 01:05:40,633 --> 01:05:44,233 I mean, I don't, at the end of the day, I 2097 01:05:44,233 --> 01:05:46,533 don't like that Saudi Arabia owns it, but 2098 01:05:46,666 --> 01:05:49,566 I'm also very curious as to like, to see 2099 01:05:49,566 --> 01:05:51,033 how this does as a 2100 01:05:51,033 --> 01:05:52,066 company now and if it gets 2101 01:05:52,066 --> 01:05:53,033 restructured and everything. 2102 01:05:53,033 --> 01:05:55,400 Oh, and we should clarify, of course, you 2103 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,266 know, always a disclaimer. 2104 01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:00,666 We're not against the Saudi people. 2105 01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:04,933 It's mostly just the government that, you 2106 01:06:04,933 --> 01:06:08,800 know, I take some, have some issue with. 2107 01:06:09,266 --> 01:06:09,466 Yeah. 2108 01:06:09,666 --> 01:06:09,966 Yeah. 2109 01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:11,566 Because we always get, because we do get 2110 01:06:11,566 --> 01:06:12,599 comments sometimes about that. 2111 01:06:12,833 --> 01:06:15,699 We probably should have started the topic 2112 01:06:15,699 --> 01:06:16,933 with that, but, you know, it's too late. 2113 01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:17,866 I guess. 2114 01:06:18,699 --> 01:06:19,300 I don't know. 2115 01:06:19,533 --> 01:06:20,766 I mean, it's kind of obvious. 2116 01:06:20,766 --> 01:06:21,666 Like, I've said stuff 2117 01:06:21,666 --> 01:06:23,333 about the United States too. 2118 01:06:23,633 --> 01:06:24,099 I'm criticized. 2119 01:06:24,466 --> 01:06:26,833 I just, and we're getting 2120 01:06:26,833 --> 01:06:28,099 pretty close to that here too. 2121 01:06:28,099 --> 01:06:29,133 I criticize it heavily. 2122 01:06:30,133 --> 01:06:33,166 When you kill a reporter, like news kind 2123 01:06:33,166 --> 01:06:35,366 of stuff, that is one of the worst things 2124 01:06:35,366 --> 01:06:37,800 you can do because a free press is the 2125 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,599 most important thing. 2126 01:06:39,233 --> 01:06:41,333 And if you make them afraid, it's really, 2127 01:06:41,633 --> 01:06:44,366 that ends, that ends in authoritarianism, 2128 01:06:44,366 --> 01:06:45,033 no matter what. 2129 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,733 So they haven't had any 2130 01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:51,233 ramifications from it. 2131 01:06:51,866 --> 01:06:52,699 No payback. 2132 01:06:52,699 --> 01:06:53,366 And like nothing, 2133 01:06:53,766 --> 01:06:54,733 nothing has come from it. 2134 01:06:55,033 --> 01:06:57,900 So yeah, that is the problem. 2135 01:06:57,933 --> 01:07:00,166 I'm not going to say it's with the people 2136 01:07:00,166 --> 01:07:01,933 or anything else, but 2137 01:07:01,933 --> 01:07:06,766 yes, unaccounted murder 2138 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:07,199 stuff. 2139 01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:07,800 Okay. 2140 01:07:07,833 --> 01:07:09,099 We can move on to the next thing. 2141 01:07:09,666 --> 01:07:12,233 So Facebook deploys the Steam Deck's 2142 01:07:12,233 --> 01:07:14,266 Linux scheduler across its data centers. 2143 01:07:14,566 --> 01:07:15,933 Valve's low latency scheduler, perfect 2144 01:07:15,933 --> 01:07:17,066 for managing metas and 2145 01:07:17,066 --> 01:07:18,266 workloads at massive data 2146 01:07:18,266 --> 01:07:18,633 centers. 2147 01:07:19,866 --> 01:07:21,233 I did not even, this, 2148 01:07:21,233 --> 01:07:22,766 this was on the 23rd. 2149 01:07:22,766 --> 01:07:23,533 So it happened a few days 2150 01:07:23,533 --> 01:07:25,133 ago, but I was not aware of this. 2151 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:26,566 Yes. 2152 01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,800 So it turns out the scheduler made for 2153 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,900 lower end hardware, you 2154 01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:33,633 know, to have them not 2155 01:07:33,633 --> 01:07:34,199 drop frames. 2156 01:07:35,366 --> 01:07:36,633 It turns out that's also 2157 01:07:36,633 --> 01:07:38,066 good for high end hardware too. 2158 01:07:38,266 --> 01:07:39,733 It's proof that optimization benefits 2159 01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:41,733 everyone, not just people at the low end. 2160 01:07:42,733 --> 01:07:43,066 Oh yeah. 2161 01:07:43,699 --> 01:07:45,766 When you're managing massive amounts of 2162 01:07:45,766 --> 01:07:46,266 things that need to be 2163 01:07:46,266 --> 01:07:48,466 scheduled, yeah, it's going 2164 01:07:48,466 --> 01:07:49,633 to help with overhead. 2165 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,199 Pull up the thumbnail for that article. 2166 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,366 That's ludicrous. 2167 01:07:55,666 --> 01:07:56,433 What this? 2168 01:07:56,733 --> 01:07:56,966 Yeah, that. 2169 01:07:57,033 --> 01:08:02,233 Meta, meta Steam Deck. 2170 01:08:02,966 --> 01:08:05,500 Dude, I should give, I can make a better 2171 01:08:05,500 --> 01:08:06,199 thumbnail than that. 2172 01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:07,666 That thing is not cropped well. 2173 01:08:08,233 --> 01:08:09,033 No, not at all. 2174 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:09,666 Yeah. 2175 01:08:09,666 --> 01:08:11,466 It's like a trapezoid. 2176 01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:12,933 Yeah. 2177 01:08:13,633 --> 01:08:15,599 They could have, I think AI did it. 2178 01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:17,866 No, I think AI would have done, would 2179 01:08:17,866 --> 01:08:19,466 have made something entirely different. 2180 01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:21,000 I'm not so. 2181 01:08:23,233 --> 01:08:28,033 Dude, so the story here is actually 2182 01:08:28,033 --> 01:08:28,833 really interesting 2183 01:08:28,833 --> 01:08:31,600 because the Linux scheduler is 2184 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,800 usually pretty optimized, but what was 2185 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,899 developed here for the 2186 01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:39,966 Steam Deck is like designed to 2187 01:08:39,966 --> 01:08:43,166 prevent like dropped frames, right? 2188 01:08:43,833 --> 01:08:45,399 It's like super optimized. 2189 01:08:46,766 --> 01:08:49,566 And at the scale that meta operates with 2190 01:08:49,566 --> 01:08:50,733 their servers, like 2191 01:08:50,733 --> 01:08:52,933 any kind of like weird 2192 01:08:52,933 --> 01:08:55,833 bottlenecks, if you can avoid it, it ends 2193 01:08:55,833 --> 01:08:57,433 up saving a ton of electricity. 2194 01:08:58,166 --> 01:09:00,966 So like this is actually crazy. 2195 01:09:02,133 --> 01:09:04,000 And it's also very interesting that this 2196 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,733 is yet another example 2197 01:09:05,733 --> 01:09:07,600 of meta profiting from 2198 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,366 Valve, like Valve work. 2199 01:09:10,566 --> 01:09:13,566 Because like Valve actually 2200 01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:16,000 was deeply invested in Oculus. 2201 01:09:16,333 --> 01:09:20,133 Like they, Valve was like very much on 2202 01:09:20,133 --> 01:09:21,233 board and helping 2203 01:09:21,233 --> 01:09:23,300 Oculus develop some VR tech. 2204 01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:25,633 And then meta swooped in and bought that 2205 01:09:25,633 --> 01:09:26,733 from, you know, right 2206 01:09:26,733 --> 01:09:27,533 off from underneath them. 2207 01:09:27,833 --> 01:09:29,233 So interesting. 2208 01:09:29,966 --> 01:09:30,166 Interesting. 2209 01:09:30,833 --> 01:09:32,366 No, don't bring that back up. 2210 01:09:32,566 --> 01:09:34,333 I remember when that happened. 2211 01:09:34,699 --> 01:09:34,933 That was. 2212 01:09:35,166 --> 01:09:35,399 Yeah. 2213 01:09:36,533 --> 01:09:36,899 Oh, man. 2214 01:09:37,533 --> 01:09:38,766 Man, there's such a freaking 2215 01:09:38,766 --> 01:09:40,199 liege on society sometimes. 2216 01:09:40,833 --> 01:09:41,033 Yeah. 2217 01:09:41,633 --> 01:09:43,166 I mean, it's interesting too, because 2218 01:09:43,166 --> 01:09:44,266 it's fine if they use it. 2219 01:09:44,266 --> 01:09:45,266 It's just yeah. 2220 01:09:45,266 --> 01:09:45,533 Oh yeah. 2221 01:09:45,533 --> 01:09:45,866 Yeah. 2222 01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:47,833 It's open source, right? 2223 01:09:48,633 --> 01:09:49,933 And you met it to their credit does 2224 01:09:49,933 --> 01:09:51,333 contribute to open source, 2225 01:09:51,333 --> 01:09:53,433 but they do like one of the 2226 01:09:53,566 --> 01:09:56,899 biggest front end libraries react is meta 2227 01:09:56,899 --> 01:09:58,100 based and it's good. 2228 01:09:59,033 --> 01:09:59,333 Yeah. 2229 01:09:59,333 --> 01:09:59,733 Sorry, continue. 2230 01:10:00,366 --> 01:10:02,133 In fact, no, I was using funny enough. 2231 01:10:02,366 --> 01:10:04,399 Valve uses it in the Steam 2232 01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:05,866 store like in Steam itself. 2233 01:10:06,233 --> 01:10:06,866 It is react. 2234 01:10:07,966 --> 01:10:09,666 Big picture mode is react. 2235 01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:12,166 I think it's all react with PHP. 2236 01:10:12,166 --> 01:10:13,966 I think it's PHP and then 2237 01:10:13,966 --> 01:10:16,366 all of the steam UI is react. 2238 01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:17,533 Yeah. 2239 01:10:17,533 --> 01:10:17,733 Sorry. 2240 01:10:18,533 --> 01:10:18,966 No, you're right. 2241 01:10:18,966 --> 01:10:19,733 You're absolutely right. 2242 01:10:19,733 --> 01:10:21,166 I mean, the new steam 2243 01:10:21,166 --> 01:10:22,733 library is react based. 2244 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,300 Everything in steam though is react. 2245 01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:27,000 Because I've had to modify it 2246 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,466 doing some hacks in the past. 2247 01:10:29,466 --> 01:10:31,233 I've done some software releases for 2248 01:10:31,233 --> 01:10:32,833 steam and modifying it. 2249 01:10:32,833 --> 01:10:34,699 And yeah, it's react. 2250 01:10:34,699 --> 01:10:35,933 Yeah. It's react. 2251 01:10:37,633 --> 01:10:37,966 Interesting. 2252 01:10:39,433 --> 01:10:40,800 But no, like I don't know. 2253 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,133 This is kind of it's kind of 2254 01:10:42,133 --> 01:10:43,366 neat to see though, you know? 2255 01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:44,433 Yeah. 2256 01:10:45,699 --> 01:10:45,966 Yeah. 2257 01:10:46,733 --> 01:10:48,233 Valve uses react. 2258 01:10:49,166 --> 01:10:51,033 Meta uses the valves thing. 2259 01:10:51,033 --> 01:10:52,333 I mean, that's good, I guess. 2260 01:10:52,333 --> 01:10:53,966 And it's also very indicative of valves 2261 01:10:53,966 --> 01:10:55,266 position as a sort of 2262 01:10:55,266 --> 01:10:57,366 Linux champion of sorts. 2263 01:10:58,133 --> 01:10:58,433 Yeah. 2264 01:10:58,933 --> 01:11:00,500 This could be positioning them to be like 2265 01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:02,066 just doing much more 2266 01:11:02,066 --> 01:11:02,866 like every time they. 2267 01:11:03,433 --> 01:11:05,433 So with the scheduler, I know sometimes 2268 01:11:05,433 --> 01:11:07,433 there can be like trade 2269 01:11:07,433 --> 01:11:08,433 offs for this type of stuff 2270 01:11:08,433 --> 01:11:11,233 where like, is there like, I don't know. 2271 01:11:11,233 --> 01:11:12,666 I have not looked into this much, but 2272 01:11:12,666 --> 01:11:14,066 does this CPU scheduler, 2273 01:11:14,066 --> 01:11:15,266 does this have any trade 2274 01:11:15,266 --> 01:11:15,766 offs though? 2275 01:11:16,733 --> 01:11:18,033 It just sounds like they need to have it 2276 01:11:18,033 --> 01:11:19,466 set up to where it can 2277 01:11:19,466 --> 01:11:21,633 have some micro schedulers 2278 01:11:21,633 --> 01:11:22,199 or something like that. 2279 01:11:22,433 --> 01:11:22,633 Yeah. 2280 01:11:22,633 --> 01:11:24,600 Because like it's really good. 2281 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,333 It sounds like at one main process that 2282 01:11:28,333 --> 01:11:29,433 maybe has to utilize 2283 01:11:29,433 --> 01:11:30,766 maybe a couple other ones, 2284 01:11:30,766 --> 01:11:32,366 but that's all based off of one process. 2285 01:11:32,933 --> 01:11:33,733 Yeah. 2286 01:11:35,066 --> 01:11:37,300 I'm not like super versed in this, but 2287 01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:38,833 from what I, that's my understanding. 2288 01:11:39,333 --> 01:11:39,533 Yeah. 2289 01:11:40,133 --> 01:11:40,333 Yeah. 2290 01:11:41,133 --> 01:11:41,933 So that makes sense. 2291 01:11:41,933 --> 01:11:43,100 That would work really well on a massive 2292 01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:44,166 server where like they 2293 01:11:44,166 --> 01:11:45,166 don't have to switch, like 2294 01:11:45,166 --> 01:11:47,533 they have depending 2295 01:11:47,533 --> 01:11:48,833 what type of server it is. 2296 01:11:48,833 --> 01:11:49,633 There's their, yeah. 2297 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,399 I'm not going to go too deep into it 2298 01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:52,466 until I read into it more, 2299 01:11:52,466 --> 01:11:53,566 but yeah, this is interesting. 2300 01:11:54,466 --> 01:11:55,233 It's lovely to see it. 2301 01:11:55,733 --> 01:11:58,266 And like, like high tech said, like this 2302 01:11:58,266 --> 01:11:59,833 is valve kind of being 2303 01:11:59,833 --> 01:12:01,233 at the forefront of Linux 2304 01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:03,866 optimization and that's 2305 01:12:03,866 --> 01:12:04,933 interesting to see as well. 2306 01:12:07,366 --> 01:12:09,533 Oh no, it does really well at one size 2307 01:12:09,533 --> 01:12:10,433 fits all scheduling, 2308 01:12:10,433 --> 01:12:11,133 at least for servers. 2309 01:12:12,366 --> 01:12:12,566 Interesting. 2310 01:12:12,966 --> 01:12:13,866 I think you're not 2311 01:12:13,866 --> 01:12:15,033 necessarily wrong either. 2312 01:12:15,033 --> 01:12:16,866 I think, but for a server, like it does a 2313 01:12:16,866 --> 01:12:17,533 really good job of 2314 01:12:17,533 --> 01:12:19,100 not, of like, it's closer 2315 01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:20,666 to a fleet wide default. 2316 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:21,800 Yeah. 2317 01:12:21,866 --> 01:12:24,233 It can automatically without hand tuned 2318 01:12:24,233 --> 01:12:25,766 configurations do a better 2319 01:12:25,766 --> 01:12:26,733 job than a lot of their other 2320 01:12:26,733 --> 01:12:27,133 schedulers. 2321 01:12:27,366 --> 01:12:28,466 So yeah. 2322 01:12:28,933 --> 01:12:29,233 Okay. 2323 01:12:29,866 --> 01:12:30,666 That makes sense. 2324 01:12:31,733 --> 01:12:32,966 Interesting. 2325 01:12:34,433 --> 01:12:34,933 I will admit. 2326 01:12:37,433 --> 01:12:39,233 CPU schedules are a little, a little 2327 01:12:39,233 --> 01:12:41,566 above my head, but it 2328 01:12:41,566 --> 01:12:42,366 is good to see that. 2329 01:12:42,633 --> 01:12:45,066 I mean, Lord knows how much more valve 2330 01:12:45,066 --> 01:12:46,166 tech has under the hood 2331 01:12:46,166 --> 01:12:47,833 that we don't really know 2332 01:12:47,833 --> 01:12:50,533 or talk about all that much that can help 2333 01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:51,833 not just the steam 2334 01:12:51,833 --> 01:12:54,333 deck, but also the data 2335 01:12:54,333 --> 01:12:55,133 centers and like almost 2336 01:12:55,133 --> 01:12:56,233 everything too, to be honest. 2337 01:12:57,133 --> 01:12:57,333 Yeah. 2338 01:12:58,066 --> 01:12:58,733 Why are we pumping all 2339 01:12:58,733 --> 01:12:59,666 this money into Nvidia? 2340 01:12:59,733 --> 01:13:01,433 We need to start subsidizing valve. 2341 01:13:02,766 --> 01:13:03,433 Yeah, but I'm someone's 2342 01:13:03,433 --> 01:13:04,899 going to want to trade. 2343 01:13:05,133 --> 01:13:06,333 They make so much money. 2344 01:13:06,333 --> 01:13:06,633 I know. 2345 01:13:06,633 --> 01:13:06,866 I know. 2346 01:13:07,133 --> 01:13:08,100 They make so much money. 2347 01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:09,166 They could probably do even 2348 01:13:09,166 --> 01:13:10,166 more if they really wanted. 2349 01:13:10,166 --> 01:13:10,366 But yeah. 2350 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:11,233 Yeah. 2351 01:13:11,633 --> 01:13:12,733 This is really cool though. 2352 01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:14,333 This is really cool. 2353 01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:15,766 I really, I really like, I'm wondering 2354 01:13:15,766 --> 01:13:17,066 what more is to come 2355 01:13:17,066 --> 01:13:19,366 from this whole thing. 2356 01:13:19,366 --> 01:13:20,733 You want to know what's more to come? 2357 01:13:22,533 --> 01:13:22,933 Spotify. 2358 01:13:23,233 --> 01:13:24,466 Spotify is downfall. 2359 01:13:24,733 --> 01:13:31,666 Someone somehow scraped all of Spotify, 2360 01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:34,199 downloaded all tracks. 2361 01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:37,600 I don't know if that includes our podcast 2362 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:38,933 because we're on 2363 01:13:38,933 --> 01:13:40,199 Spotify as well, to be honest. 2364 01:13:42,766 --> 01:13:43,733 We don't get that many viewers. 2365 01:13:43,933 --> 01:13:44,866 We don't get that many 2366 01:13:44,866 --> 01:13:45,800 listeners from Spotify. 2367 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:46,366 I don't believe I 2368 01:13:46,366 --> 01:13:48,100 believe last week checked. 2369 01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:48,833 It was Apple music. 2370 01:13:48,833 --> 01:13:50,066 That was actually the most popular, which 2371 01:13:50,066 --> 01:13:50,699 is interesting to me. 2372 01:13:51,733 --> 01:13:54,066 Apple podcasts is what 2373 01:13:54,066 --> 01:13:56,166 started podcasts almost. 2374 01:13:56,933 --> 01:13:57,533 They're like the second 2375 01:13:57,533 --> 01:13:59,699 and yeah, it makes sense. 2376 01:14:00,966 --> 01:14:02,300 But you'd also expect Spotify. 2377 01:14:02,500 --> 01:14:04,466 I used to use Spotify religiously a few 2378 01:14:04,466 --> 01:14:06,199 years ago and then I just got tired of 2379 01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:07,566 paying for it and everything. 2380 01:14:07,566 --> 01:14:10,666 And now that I, yeah, yeah, it's either 2381 01:14:10,666 --> 01:14:12,500 YouTube or Apple music for me. 2382 01:14:12,733 --> 01:14:15,866 But man, that's a lot 2383 01:14:15,866 --> 01:14:16,933 of data to shift through. 2384 01:14:17,266 --> 01:14:18,433 I'm doubt they're ever going to get to 2385 01:14:18,433 --> 01:14:20,033 our podcast and our podcast can be 2386 01:14:20,033 --> 01:14:20,699 downloaded from our podcast. 2387 01:14:20,733 --> 01:14:21,233 We can't get to our podcast feed. 2388 01:14:22,633 --> 01:14:22,833 Yeah. 2389 01:14:23,833 --> 01:14:27,566 So yeah, I mean, why download Spotify's 2390 01:14:27,566 --> 01:14:28,333 version when you just 2391 01:14:28,333 --> 01:14:29,166 download our version? 2392 01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:31,533 Exactly. There you go, guys. 2393 01:14:32,733 --> 01:14:34,233 We got to get back into it. 2394 01:14:34,233 --> 01:14:35,533 It's 300 terabytes to 2395 01:14:35,533 --> 01:14:37,233 store all of Spotify's library. 2396 01:14:37,899 --> 01:14:38,500 In case you were wondering. 2397 01:14:41,966 --> 01:14:42,966 300 terabytes. 2398 01:14:43,333 --> 01:14:45,266 How what percentage of that is a slot? 2399 01:14:47,033 --> 01:14:48,666 It seems like not that much. 2400 01:14:48,866 --> 01:14:49,566 It doesn't seem as much 2401 01:14:49,566 --> 01:14:50,800 as I thought it would be. 2402 01:14:51,466 --> 01:14:53,133 Probably not an 2403 01:14:53,133 --> 01:14:54,866 insignificant amount, but we shall see. 2404 01:14:55,933 --> 01:14:58,433 So essentially this blog called Anna's 2405 01:14:58,433 --> 01:15:00,433 Archive, that's the place that you would 2406 01:15:00,433 --> 01:15:02,966 not download it from, obviously. 2407 01:15:06,233 --> 01:15:07,333 You it's a torrent. 2408 01:15:07,766 --> 01:15:09,166 You can torrent it. 2409 01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:12,699 Holy crap, that's a torrent. 2410 01:15:12,733 --> 01:15:16,633 Like how is it broken up or is it just 2411 01:15:16,633 --> 01:15:17,833 all one massive torrent? 2412 01:15:18,199 --> 01:15:19,366 Let me check the site. 2413 01:15:20,066 --> 01:15:22,600 That torrent file would have to be like 2414 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:27,399 multiple megabytes in size, like 300 2415 01:15:27,399 --> 01:15:29,699 megabytes per cent or something. 2416 01:15:29,699 --> 01:15:30,433 That would be crazy. 2417 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,199 So they don't just do Spotify. 2418 01:15:37,066 --> 01:15:38,866 They are also just a 2419 01:15:38,866 --> 01:15:40,066 shadow library altogether. 2420 01:15:40,066 --> 01:15:40,699 They're like those like. 2421 01:15:40,733 --> 01:15:43,333 I can't say the names of the websites 2422 01:15:43,333 --> 01:15:45,433 because I can't remember them, but you 2423 01:15:45,433 --> 01:15:46,233 get what I'm saying, right? 2424 01:15:47,233 --> 01:15:47,433 Yeah. 2425 01:15:50,333 --> 01:15:51,699 Yeah, these are the sorts of websites 2426 01:15:51,699 --> 01:15:53,466 that where you would download peer 2427 01:15:53,466 --> 01:15:56,300 reviewed journals for free because you 2428 01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:57,333 have to pay to get 2429 01:15:57,333 --> 01:15:58,600 access to some of them. 2430 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,566 Which is what which now that I think 2431 01:16:01,566 --> 01:16:03,033 about it is terrible. 2432 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:05,433 Information should be 2433 01:16:05,433 --> 01:16:06,699 free for anyone to get. 2434 01:16:07,733 --> 01:16:10,266 And I would rather have peer reviewed 2435 01:16:10,266 --> 01:16:12,133 journals be at the top of the Google 2436 01:16:12,133 --> 01:16:13,600 listings than say, I 2437 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,266 don't know, A.I. blogs. 2438 01:16:15,466 --> 01:16:17,133 But you know, there's 2439 01:16:17,133 --> 01:16:17,933 neither here nor there. 2440 01:16:17,933 --> 01:16:20,033 The problem with peer reviewed journals 2441 01:16:20,033 --> 01:16:22,666 and journals themselves is that there you 2442 01:16:22,666 --> 01:16:25,933 need a good communicator 2443 01:16:25,933 --> 01:16:28,266 to to do that type of stuff. 2444 01:16:28,533 --> 01:16:30,399 People, the average person is not going 2445 01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:31,233 to get very far in that. 2446 01:16:31,899 --> 01:16:32,766 I mean, look at our 2447 01:16:32,766 --> 01:16:33,699 literacy rate in America alone. 2448 01:16:33,733 --> 01:16:40,699 So yeah, I also don't. Yeah, I don't like 2449 01:16:40,699 --> 01:16:43,166 that things are also going 2450 01:16:43,166 --> 01:16:44,366 to pay a wall too, though. 2451 01:16:45,533 --> 01:16:46,666 That is true. 2452 01:16:50,366 --> 01:16:50,566 So. 2453 01:16:52,699 --> 01:16:53,033 Yeah. 2454 01:16:54,933 --> 01:16:55,966 I think. Yeah. 2455 01:16:57,899 --> 01:16:58,699 Sorry, what were you going to say? 2456 01:16:58,699 --> 01:17:05,199 No, nothing. So how did they was it hacked? 2457 01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:06,399 I don't understand 2458 01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:09,333 fully how they got all it. 2459 01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:10,733 Did they just like stream it? 2460 01:17:10,733 --> 01:17:12,500 And then every time they had a bot that 2461 01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:14,733 just would go through all of the Spotify 2462 01:17:14,733 --> 01:17:17,666 and just like cash it because there's I'm 2463 01:17:17,666 --> 01:17:19,600 sure there's ways to cash Spotify stuff. 2464 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,133 If you just put it on your computer, 2465 01:17:21,566 --> 01:17:22,433 start listening to it and 2466 01:17:22,433 --> 01:17:24,833 you could probably record it. 2467 01:17:25,466 --> 01:17:26,699 I suspect it would do something. 2468 01:17:26,699 --> 01:17:30,533 I suspect it would do something. I suspect it would do something. I suspect it was something to the effect 2469 01:17:30,533 --> 01:17:32,733 of like YouTube DLP or whatever. 2470 01:17:33,666 --> 01:17:35,433 Like one of those like it's like one of 2471 01:17:35,433 --> 01:17:38,533 those command line tools that knows how 2472 01:17:38,533 --> 01:17:40,233 to break the DRM and download it. 2473 01:17:40,766 --> 01:17:40,966 Yeah. 2474 01:17:43,133 --> 01:17:43,333 Yeah. 2475 01:17:44,566 --> 01:17:46,933 Also, just just a fun fact, I checked on 2476 01:17:46,933 --> 01:17:48,500 Spotify in the last month. 2477 01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:50,866 We've had 213 plays on Spotify. 2478 01:17:51,633 --> 01:17:52,033 Not bad. 2479 01:17:52,766 --> 01:17:53,266 Yeah. 2480 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,233 Okay. 2481 01:17:57,133 --> 01:17:57,566 All right. 2482 01:17:57,566 --> 01:17:59,533 Let's see how big this torrent file is. 2483 01:17:59,833 --> 01:18:00,399 I found one. 2484 01:18:00,633 --> 01:18:02,366 I found so it's split up into. 2485 01:18:04,733 --> 01:18:05,566 So the point. 2486 01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:08,333 Wait, there's a two point. 2487 01:18:08,633 --> 01:18:09,666 What is this? 2488 01:18:10,333 --> 01:18:11,166 What are we looking at? 2489 01:18:12,066 --> 01:18:13,133 You're looking at a virus now. 2490 01:18:14,566 --> 01:18:15,233 I must be. 2491 01:18:15,233 --> 01:18:16,366 There's like three files. 2492 01:18:16,366 --> 01:18:17,733 There's. 2493 01:18:18,166 --> 01:18:19,733 See audio analysis. 2494 01:18:20,733 --> 01:18:23,100 See there's audio cover art. 2495 01:18:23,899 --> 01:18:25,466 And then there's. 2496 01:18:26,399 --> 01:18:27,566 Metadata as well. 2497 01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:28,600 Wait. 2498 01:18:29,733 --> 01:18:31,100 Is this are these not the music? 2499 01:18:31,533 --> 01:18:33,033 Wait, no, this is just the data. 2500 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:34,266 Wait, hon. 2501 01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:38,966 By the way, I'm not downloading the 2502 01:18:38,966 --> 01:18:40,233 entirety of Spotify. 2503 01:18:40,233 --> 01:18:40,833 That's insane. 2504 01:18:42,466 --> 01:18:43,800 Well, for multiple reasons, I mean. 2505 01:18:44,633 --> 01:18:45,000 Yeah. 2506 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:45,966 Like for starters, I don't 2507 01:18:45,966 --> 01:18:47,366 have enough storage for that. 2508 01:18:48,733 --> 01:18:49,500 And also, I don't think you 2509 01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:50,600 have enough funds for legal. 2510 01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:52,600 Yeah, I don't have enough funds. 2511 01:18:54,733 --> 01:18:58,899 So subscribe to our Patreon guys to help 2512 01:18:58,899 --> 01:19:00,966 fund high techs legal fees. 2513 01:19:03,733 --> 01:19:07,366 Yeah, man, that's crazy. 2514 01:19:10,699 --> 01:19:11,733 All right, so I don't actually know how 2515 01:19:11,733 --> 01:19:13,533 to I don't know how people would 2516 01:19:13,533 --> 01:19:14,500 actually download the 2517 01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:15,933 songs from Anna's archive. 2518 01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:18,800 All right, whatever. 2519 01:19:19,433 --> 01:19:19,866 That's fine. 2520 01:19:20,166 --> 01:19:20,899 That just means people 2521 01:19:20,899 --> 01:19:21,699 can download our podcast. 2522 01:19:21,699 --> 01:19:22,166 So I'm going to go ahead and download it. I'm going to go ahead 2523 01:19:22,166 --> 01:19:22,366 and download the podcast. 2524 01:19:23,933 --> 01:19:27,566 Yeah, no, I. 2525 01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:31,966 It'll be interesting to see how Spotify 2526 01:19:31,966 --> 01:19:32,766 is going to handle this because 2527 01:19:32,766 --> 01:19:33,233 I've been used. 2528 01:19:33,233 --> 01:19:36,833 There's going to be a lot of tracking 2529 01:19:36,833 --> 01:19:38,800 down and lawsuits and someone 2530 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:39,666 probably going to jail. 2531 01:19:41,366 --> 01:19:42,133 Oh, but they did. 2532 01:19:42,133 --> 01:19:45,033 But on top of some pirating Spotify, you 2533 01:19:45,033 --> 01:19:46,000 know what they did as well? 2534 01:19:46,566 --> 01:19:47,699 Some data exploration. 2535 01:19:48,733 --> 01:19:52,933 Oh, the like this right here. 2536 01:19:53,466 --> 01:19:53,666 Yes. 2537 01:19:54,233 --> 01:19:55,399 Songs by popularity score. 2538 01:19:55,399 --> 01:19:56,399 I don't understand this. 2539 01:19:58,300 --> 01:19:59,533 I don't understand that graph either to 2540 01:19:59,533 --> 01:20:01,066 be honest is a horrible graph. 2541 01:20:01,066 --> 01:20:02,733 By the way, Tom's hardware. 2542 01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:04,266 It looks like it was 2543 01:20:04,266 --> 01:20:05,366 it's not their graph. 2544 01:20:05,366 --> 01:20:07,033 No, it was Anna's archives graphs. 2545 01:20:07,033 --> 01:20:07,600 I mean, you scroll on 2546 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,066 the on the rights article. 2547 01:20:09,366 --> 01:20:10,533 There's a lot of these. 2548 01:20:11,233 --> 01:20:11,899 This is fine. 2549 01:20:12,466 --> 01:20:13,800 This is horrible. 2550 01:20:14,033 --> 01:20:14,699 You have to scale it down. 2551 01:20:14,699 --> 01:20:20,000 Like their skills is wrong. This is a fine graph. 2552 01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:22,166 Songs by popularity score. 2553 01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:24,800 I don't even know logarithmic scale. 2554 01:20:25,699 --> 01:20:31,266 Number of songs. 2555 01:20:33,766 --> 01:20:34,000 Yeah. 2556 01:20:35,633 --> 01:20:36,533 There's more though 2557 01:20:36,533 --> 01:20:38,966 stream analysis by popularity. 2558 01:20:40,633 --> 01:20:41,699 Total streams bars versus average song line. 2559 01:20:41,699 --> 01:20:53,300 And then you can see that. I mean, I think that's a good question. I mean, I think that's a good question. I mean, that's a lot of data that I'm 2560 01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:56,433 sure some of this Spotify was trying to 2561 01:20:56,433 --> 01:20:58,066 protect as much as this is probably more 2562 01:20:58,066 --> 01:21:00,500 damaging than the everything getting 2563 01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:04,433 sent all the songs being downloaded and 2564 01:21:04,433 --> 01:21:06,600 all the podcasts and everything. 2565 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,366 You can also estimate that the top three 2566 01:21:08,366 --> 01:21:08,699 songs as of the writing have a higher 2567 01:21:08,699 --> 01:21:11,466 total of the number of songs that are being downloaded. And then you can see that the top three songs are being downloaded. And then you can see that the top three songs as of the writing have a higher 2568 01:21:11,466 --> 01:21:14,066 total stream count than the bottom 20 to 2569 01:21:14,066 --> 01:21:16,199 100 million songs combined. 2570 01:21:16,966 --> 01:21:17,333 Yeah. 2571 01:21:17,966 --> 01:21:19,133 Lady Gaga Bruno Mars. 2572 01:21:19,133 --> 01:21:19,966 Die with a smile. 2573 01:21:20,733 --> 01:21:21,633 Billy Eilish. 2574 01:21:22,266 --> 01:21:23,300 Billy eyelash. 2575 01:21:23,733 --> 01:21:24,533 Breads of a feather. 2576 01:21:25,633 --> 01:21:26,033 Bad Bunny. 2577 01:21:26,966 --> 01:21:27,633 Aka Mr. 2578 01:21:27,866 --> 01:21:28,199 Super Bowl. 2579 01:21:28,933 --> 01:21:29,333 DTM. 2580 01:21:31,966 --> 01:21:32,766 Dude. 2581 01:21:35,733 --> 01:21:37,133 He's because he's. 2582 01:21:37,766 --> 01:21:38,366 He's an American. 2583 01:21:38,933 --> 01:21:39,133 Yeah. 2584 01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:39,699 America. 2585 01:21:40,733 --> 01:21:43,199 America is American territory. 2586 01:21:43,433 --> 01:21:44,000 If you're born there, 2587 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:44,666 you're an American citizen. 2588 01:21:45,699 --> 01:21:45,899 Yep. 2589 01:21:47,733 --> 01:21:48,266 Sorry. 2590 01:21:48,266 --> 01:21:50,466 Don't be the very that I just see what 2591 01:21:50,466 --> 01:21:52,699 else we got tracks by duration. 2592 01:21:53,533 --> 01:21:55,833 Your average song seems to sit around 2593 01:21:55,833 --> 01:21:58,266 three minutes and 15 seconds. 2594 01:21:59,966 --> 01:22:00,366 All these. 2595 01:22:01,166 --> 01:22:01,399 Yeah. 2596 01:22:01,733 --> 01:22:02,166 Let's see. 2597 01:22:02,466 --> 01:22:04,000 Long tracks by duration. 2598 01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:08,633 Off 30 music genres by artist count. 2599 01:22:09,233 --> 01:22:10,733 Operas at the top opera. 2600 01:22:11,733 --> 01:22:14,366 Is that the top by the artist council? 2601 01:22:14,366 --> 01:22:16,166 There's more art opera artists. 2602 01:22:16,966 --> 01:22:20,566 Oh, that is interesting, though. 2603 01:22:23,033 --> 01:22:23,766 Chamber music. 2604 01:22:26,333 --> 01:22:27,100 Maybe they mean like 2605 01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:28,500 elevator black metal. 2606 01:22:28,899 --> 01:22:29,300 Holy. 2607 01:22:31,266 --> 01:22:33,366 Oh, the least popular it seems is 2608 01:22:33,366 --> 01:22:34,699 underground hip hop. 2609 01:22:36,066 --> 01:22:37,066 Followed by hyper pop. 2610 01:22:38,066 --> 01:22:39,066 What is hyper pop? 2611 01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:42,033 No, no. 2612 01:22:42,433 --> 01:22:43,133 Should we find out? 2613 01:22:43,966 --> 01:22:44,233 No. 2614 01:22:45,966 --> 01:22:47,266 We want to get content struck. 2615 01:22:48,066 --> 01:22:48,266 Yeah. 2616 01:22:50,500 --> 01:22:50,833 I see. 2617 01:22:51,133 --> 01:22:51,766 Okay, guys. 2618 01:22:53,133 --> 01:22:54,766 I think we're going to have to start 2619 01:22:54,766 --> 01:22:57,066 wrapping up this episode, but there's. 2620 01:22:57,433 --> 01:22:58,133 I didn't realize how 2621 01:22:58,133 --> 01:22:59,300 much data there is in this. 2622 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:00,933 This is this is what 2623 01:23:00,933 --> 01:23:02,066 I'm here for is the data. 2624 01:23:02,866 --> 01:23:04,633 Also, another data point. 2625 01:23:05,633 --> 01:23:09,333 Spotify is outperforming Apple Podcasts. 2626 01:23:09,566 --> 01:23:11,833 We had 75 plays on Apple Podcasts this 2627 01:23:11,833 --> 01:23:14,000 month versus 200 and what? 2628 01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:15,733 213. 2629 01:23:16,833 --> 01:23:19,866 And then do we maybe have some issues 2630 01:23:19,866 --> 01:23:20,766 with the Apple Podcast? 2631 01:23:21,233 --> 01:23:23,300 Well, I'm I'm logged into the actual 2632 01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:24,699 dashboards for each one. 2633 01:23:24,733 --> 01:23:28,266 I think Apple Podcasts like whole 2634 01:23:28,266 --> 01:23:30,266 downloads the episode like multiple times 2635 01:23:30,266 --> 01:23:34,266 per for some reason in our back end. 2636 01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:35,066 So it's weird. 2637 01:23:37,866 --> 01:23:38,333 Yeah, man. 2638 01:23:38,333 --> 01:23:39,433 We're ending on a good note. 2639 01:23:39,933 --> 01:23:44,633 We didn't hit one K on YouTube because by 2640 01:23:44,633 --> 01:23:45,766 the time the next episode airs is 2641 01:23:45,766 --> 01:23:46,733 going to be the new year, right? 2642 01:23:48,699 --> 01:23:49,600 There's always next year. 2643 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:50,566 There's always next year. 2644 01:23:50,566 --> 01:23:51,666 Hope we can have okay. 2645 01:23:53,633 --> 01:23:53,699 Yeah. 2646 01:23:53,733 --> 01:23:54,300 So there. 2647 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:56,333 100K. 2648 01:23:57,133 --> 01:23:57,966 Sorry, I met a thousand. 2649 01:23:58,233 --> 01:24:00,033 Well, 100K. 2650 01:24:00,033 --> 01:24:00,466 Let's do it. 2651 01:24:00,699 --> 01:24:02,333 I'm not going to play. 2652 01:24:02,333 --> 01:24:05,466 Okay, guys. 2653 01:24:05,866 --> 01:24:08,566 Yeah, let's let's end this thing out. 2654 01:24:08,833 --> 01:24:11,733 Thank you guys for listening, 2655 01:24:11,733 --> 01:24:12,733 watching wherever you're at. 2656 01:24:13,033 --> 01:24:15,766 Make sure to like subscribe comment. 2657 01:24:15,766 --> 01:24:16,966 We love hearing your guys's comments. 2658 01:24:17,366 --> 01:24:19,733 We'll try to read more in the year 2026. 2659 01:24:19,733 --> 01:24:20,433 I mean, I read them. 2660 01:24:20,433 --> 01:24:22,133 I just try to respond to a little more. 2661 01:24:22,733 --> 01:24:25,033 But yeah, now we enjoy everything you 2662 01:24:25,033 --> 01:24:29,866 guys do for us and continue being 2663 01:24:29,866 --> 01:24:31,366 class, I guess classy until 2664 01:24:31,366 --> 01:24:32,366 the next year or whatever. 2665 01:24:34,066 --> 01:24:34,733 I'm getting too old. 2666 01:24:35,066 --> 01:24:35,266 Yeah. 2667 01:24:35,633 --> 01:24:36,866 I don't have any good terms. 2668 01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:38,166 That's okay, man. 2669 01:24:38,166 --> 01:24:39,033 Let's post Christmas. 2670 01:24:40,233 --> 01:24:40,833 Yeah, it's true. 2671 01:24:41,133 --> 01:24:42,800 I've been partying and eating lots of 2672 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,833 junk food the last few days. 2673 01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:46,500 So then junk food. 2674 01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:46,866 I'm over. 2675 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:49,066 Okay. 2676 01:24:49,466 --> 01:24:50,866 With that being said, we'll catch you 2677 01:24:50,866 --> 01:24:51,699 guys next time in the next episode in 2678 01:24:51,733 --> 01:24:52,833 the next year. 2679 01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:53,500 Peace out. 2680 01:24:53,833 --> 01:24:54,133 Later. 2681 01:24:54,466 --> 01:24:55,366 Happy new year. 2682 01:24:55,366 --> 01:24:55,933 Happy new year. 2683 01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:57,066 Happy new year.