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someone wants to come here and we go to
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Kanban, uh, together,
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or, uh, Banchan?
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Banchan.
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I can't find enough.
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That's a- that's a completely different
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thing I'm not gonna get to.
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But Banchan, uh, yeah.
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All live stream that.
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Do you want to get
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some good fried chicken?
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Hell yeah.
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I mean, there's better- there's better
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than Banchan, but yeah.
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What if we name our company, you know,
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Korean Fried Chicken
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Incorporated, and then we deep
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fake ourselves having Banchan or- or
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Korean Fried Chicken
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Incorporated chicken with what's
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his name?
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Jensen Wong.
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Then we could artificially pump up our
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stock prices, and he's
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proven that it's okay to
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do that.
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So let's do it.
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Mr. Adam Jensen Wong himself.
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I wonder if it would work.
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I don't want to incorporate.
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Or no, incorporating is fine.
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I don't want to, uh, go public.
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We'll just say we went
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public, and then don't.
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We- yeah, we say we went public to pump
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up our artificial public
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price, and everything's-
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nothing makes sense
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anymore so that we can do that.
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None of this is gonna
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work unless we do a crypto.
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We're gonna have to do
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an off-the-console crypto.
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Oh right, yes, okay.
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We do a crypto- a publicly traded crypto.
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Yeah, okay.
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It's all coming together.
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I like this idea now.
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At least it doesn't- it's
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not gonna take a lot of work.
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Welcome to
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off-the-console, the most festive podcast.
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It's all about Christmas gaming,
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Christmas tech news, and
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anything holidays related.
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This week we're covering the biggest
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news, including, uh,
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Claire obscure being removed
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for, uh, horrific AI usage.
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And then we also have, uh, Nintendo's,
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uh, Nitrogen, Nvidia
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and Shittify's, everything
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once more, and so much more.
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My name is James, also the brink or games
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revealed, however you
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want to refer to me,
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I guess.
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And I am joined today with
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Gardner and with Hi-Tech.
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Thanks for being here, guys.
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Wait, did you say Nintendo, Nitrogen?
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Uh, yeah, I did.
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Nvidia and Nitrogen, it's, you know,
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people will come for it.
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It's the same thing.
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They're all the same
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company at this point.
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So yeah, I was
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misreading two different titles.
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So welcome, guys.
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Welcome.
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Let's get into what we've been doing this
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week, what we've been playing.
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Hi-Tech.
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What have you been doing, Hi-Tech?
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Arc readers.
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You've been playing Arc Raiders.
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So here's my thing
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with extraction shooters.
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A lot of people really don't like the
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whole PVP aspect, but I live in it.
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I revel in it.
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I know plenty of people
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that love the PVP aspect.
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I hate it.
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like yearning for like a
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single player extraction
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shooter, but like, I don't know if I
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fully see the appeal in a
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single player extraction
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shooter, where there's no other players
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that could vulture like
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your gear, or in that case,
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me being the vulture.
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I just, yeah, I like to go in.
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idea, I guess, how I do it.
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I don't know how you do it from a non-PVP
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standpoint of whoever
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gets the boss or the
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loot or whatever gets their first kind of
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gets it or whoever can
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like destroy the boss
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first gets it.
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having the PVP aspect of
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taking out enemies that
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are going for it too.
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I'm like, okay, if you
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want to take me out because
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you want to get the boss, once again,
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I've only played one extraction shooter.
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around sniping people
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just because they can snipe
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and not actually do the objectives.
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games are, truth be told.
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clearly objective based
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games like Overwatch, where
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the objective is front and center.
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screen, it's hard to miss.
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things because they can.
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just going to fail at that
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point.
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You're not going to succeed.
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Maybe a high kill count, maybe.
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people on your team that do that.
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weird because
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technically you're supposed to have
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goals, you're then you're supposed to
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extract with your loot you get.
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permadeath where your
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character dies, then you have to
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create a whole new character once again.
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just kill people and
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then extract, I don't know,
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it's frustrating to me because I want to
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be focused on the goal, not
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killing people necessarily.
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I don't know.
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Hi, Tech.
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Let's continue with the way.
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I don't know, but that's
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mostly what I've been doing.
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The holidays is happening this week.
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What's happened this week?
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Good stuff.
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What do you guys get
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for Christmas though?
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By the way, I should
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probably share first.
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Yeah, I got some clothes and I got a
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board game called, I'm
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trying to remember what
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it's called.
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grid that's full of like colors.
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It looks like one of those Pantone, like
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it looks almost like
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one of those Pantone like
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palette selector thingies.
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specific shade of color.
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pretty cool to play too.
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Absolutely.
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Hues and clues.
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Hues and cues.
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Hues and cues.
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that game is so much fun.
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Interesting.
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So basically you get more points, the
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more accurate you are
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with your guesses, but you
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have to like, you have to play with other
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people and they have to
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like be able to describe
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what color they're talking about without
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telling you what color it actually is.
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What if you're color blind?
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That makes it difficult.
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I played hues and cues at my friend's
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house, like for the first
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time like four weeks ago
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maybe.
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weirdness, not really
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color blind, but I see a lot of
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reds as pinks and pinks
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as red, which is strange.
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me to distinguish between.
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trying to describe like
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a reddish color and I was
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like cherry and everyone was about like
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the right where they should
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have been.
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I'm not great with colors.
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stuff, but like I'm
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just not great with colors.
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if I would be a little bit better.
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Gardner, what have you, what'd you get?
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What have you been doing this week?
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So this week, I mean, it was Christmas,
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so I got a bunch of stuff.
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I got a couple new books.
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I'm really excited to read this, Legends
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of Localization, Earthbound.
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This is written by Clyde Mandolin, who's
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the guy who like
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translated Earthbound into
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Very excited to read that.
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I have to finish the other book that I
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got though, which is
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Life After Cars, Freeing
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Ourself from the
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Tyranny of the Automobile.
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because we just talked.
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That explains the bonus episode now.
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We just talked for at length about
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infrastructure and cars
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in the bonus episodes.
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You guys should go
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check that over on Patreon.
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It's an extended episode
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and it's a really good one.
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And then I got to finish that book.
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I'm going to review both of
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these on the Bryant Review soon.
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And then my brother-in-law, Ish, he's my
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girlfriend's brother, he
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bought me like $100 in Steam gift
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cards.
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So I redeemed that and I bought the
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Coldplay DLC for Beat Saber.
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And let me tell you, dude, I
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unironically love Coldplay.
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They are terrific.
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And I know a lot of people are going to
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be like, "Oh, guilty pleasure."
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No, no, no, no.
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I don't care.
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I love Coldplay.
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And this DLC pack is the best pack of
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songs I've ever played on Beat Saber.
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It's just so much fun.
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My favorite is something just like this.
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That's my favorite track on there.
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So good.
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Holy crap, dude.
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I don't know if I've bought much or if
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any of the packs on
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Beat Saber, I play all the
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stuff that I just released for free.
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Is it remixed for Beat Saber or is it
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just the exact song?
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It's the exact song for these.
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I haven't played a lot of other DLC
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because I don't like
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meta and I don't want to pay
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meta, but I figure I have this in my
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wallet, so whatever.
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Is that a game?
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Oh yeah, Beat Saber is
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owned by meta, which sucks.
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Yeah, when did that happen?
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A little while ago, a
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couple of years ago.
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So I wrote a review, 1300 words of this
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DLC pack and right at
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the top I was like, "You
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probably shouldn't buy this because it's
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owned by meta and also
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there's no telling what the
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fuck they're using with our data."
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Sorry, I swore.
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Apologies.
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"There's no telling what they're doing
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with the data that they
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collect of the headset
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and your usage."
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So your mileage may vary.
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But I will say that something just like
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this, Viva La Vida, A Sky
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Full of Stars, Adventure
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of a Lifetime, Clocks, Yellow, I mean
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those are all, Speed of
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Sound, they're all really,
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really, really,
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really, really fun to play.
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All their classics it sounds like.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's a few of the newer songs, which I
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haven't even tried
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because I don't really care
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to try their new ones, but the classic
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ones are really good.
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And I don't know if you guys, have you
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guys played Beat Saber recently?
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No.
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Within the last two years maybe?
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Yeah, I've played a couple of months ago
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when I set up my VR again.
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Have you seen the new
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mechanics that they've added?
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There's a mechanic where there's a normal
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block with a
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direction, but then there's a
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bunch of very tiny blocks that follow it.
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Oh yeah.
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And so you slice through all of them and
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then they also have the...
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They call them arcs.
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And so it's like you slice through it and
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then it's like it's
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an arc that you follow
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with your...
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You trace the arc out in
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3D space and it's so fun.
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And this uses it very well.
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That's good to know.
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Yeah.
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Maybe I should pick up a DLC or something
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of like some newer
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music that uses the new.
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Yeah.
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And do you use any custom songs?
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There's like, there are some custom songs
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that use them too and it's really good.
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Maybe.
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Sorry, I don't remember.
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It's been a few months now.
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Oh yeah.
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But I love Beat Saber.
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I honestly, one of the things I want is I
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don't want to pay for a meta VR.
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I want to get the Steamframe.
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And so I can just play it wherever.
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That's what I'm really wanting because
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I'm getting tired of the...
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My house is just not set up
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very well for the valve index.
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Yeah.
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I want Valve to buy the Beat Saber crew.
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I'm really sick of it
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being owned by meta.
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What if some enterprise and developer
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just made Beat Saber slightly different?
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I mean, you guys are down.
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Let's do it together.
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We'll call it Rhythm Sword.
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Rhythm Sword.
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I love it.
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Instead of being like lightsabers,
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instead you have like a physical sword.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if that would do as well.
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Or what about like the Scott Pilgrim
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Sword at the end of Scott
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Pilgrim movie where it's
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like pixelated.
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Oh, like a pixelated Katana?
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Yeah.
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Oh, dude.
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That'd be cool.
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Yeah, what if we made a pixel art?
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Because I have seen
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some like VR pixel art.
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Could be interesting.
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Yeah, I'll tell you like the Beat Saber
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environment that you're
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in is like super awesome.
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And like Coldplay came with a bunch of
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extra stages that are
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custom built for these songs.
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So like Yellow is like...
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It's like a black and yellow scheme.
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It's really cool.
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That sounds cool.
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Yeah.
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Beat Saber is awesome.
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Yeah.
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My favorite game right now.
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It's also good because then it gets
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people moving around.
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It's really good for like getting some
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little bit of cardio in,
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getting a little bit of
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movements.
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It's...
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I think VR has a really good
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place for that type of stuff.
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Yeah.
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What I want in VR is leg inputs because
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then they could make
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like a martial arts game.
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And I used to do martial
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arts when I was growing up.
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So that'd be a lot of fun.
453
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That would be fun.
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I'd love that.
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My kids would die.
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I would kick them in the face because
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they'd be walking by.
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00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,533
I've already...
459
00:14:18,666 --> 00:14:19,633
Or they would destroy the...
460
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Me?
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Yeah.
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00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:23,200
No.
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No.
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No.
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What I've been doing this week is working
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on my video game and
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getting my vertical slice
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00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:35,333
ready for the demo next year.
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00:14:35,366 --> 00:14:37,633
Like I talked about in the bonus episode
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of what I plan on doing next year.
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And so I've been...
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I've had some time off from work and so
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I've been working on
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that and spending time with
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family.
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And then like Christmas wise, I got a
477
00:14:50,133 --> 00:14:51,133
couple of really cool things.
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00:14:51,133 --> 00:14:54,399
One of them was an Apple TV, which I will
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00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,033
say I'm stuck in the Apple verse.
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It's just everything works.
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00:14:58,833 --> 00:15:02,033
I can easily use my AirPods to watch
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stuff on the Apple TV
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while let's say my wife is
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sleeping and so it just makes...
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I use the Apple fitness stuff.
486
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I really like it a lot and I
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00:15:14,933 --> 00:15:16,433
use that with the Apple TV.
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I really like it.
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But the best thing I got was...
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And the weirdest thing that
491
00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,466
my wife got me was a bidet.
492
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I got a bidet.
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For your toilet?
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I love it.
495
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Bidets are awesome.
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I've been holding off, but yeah.
497
00:15:33,899 --> 00:15:35,066
Emily really wants a bidet.
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00:15:36,766 --> 00:15:37,833
You should get one, Gardiner.
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You should get one.
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Like we got the Tushy one, which is like
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a popular brand that
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does a really good job.
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It's an...
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It doesn't do...
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You can get ones that do...
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That will hook up warm water if your
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toilets are near the sink.
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You get electric ones
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that will heat up the water.
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I'm going on just full cold.
511
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And honestly, I've used bidets before,
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but it hasn't been that bad.
513
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I thought the cold was going to be worse.
514
00:16:01,066 --> 00:16:01,733
Nah, it's fine.
515
00:16:02,633 --> 00:16:04,033
It's like a cup of coffee
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before your cup of coffee.
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00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:10,666
So we had this discussion and I'm sorry
518
00:16:10,666 --> 00:16:11,733
to interrupt, but like,
519
00:16:12,166 --> 00:16:13,500
oh my God, she was talking
520
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about how bad she wants a bidet.
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I'm like, have you
522
00:16:15,633 --> 00:16:16,766
ever tried a bidet before?
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She's like, no, but I
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think I would really like it.
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And I'm like, I have tried a bidet.
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And granted I didn't try an electric one.
527
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I tried one that was just hooked up to
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the cold water of like
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that goes into the tank.
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And I was like, you're
531
00:16:29,133 --> 00:16:31,066
expecting a shower for your butt.
532
00:16:31,733 --> 00:16:34,266
And that is not at all what you get.
533
00:16:36,166 --> 00:16:37,500
It was just, I don't know.
534
00:16:37,899 --> 00:16:39,333
It was during the winter
535
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and it was in here in Maine.
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00:16:41,533 --> 00:16:45,033
And this was just like an abrasive cold
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wetness that I did not appreciate.
538
00:16:48,666 --> 00:16:50,233
So I've been resistant because we don't
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00:16:50,233 --> 00:16:51,466
have an outlet near the
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toilet and we don't have
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00:16:52,866 --> 00:16:54,166
anything like we can't
542
00:16:54,166 --> 00:16:55,333
hook up hot water to it.
543
00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:56,166
I don't know.
544
00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:57,299
I don't think it would work.
545
00:16:57,299 --> 00:16:58,166
Why couldn't you hook up hot water?
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I mean, even you own your house, you
547
00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:03,366
could probably pass a
548
00:17:03,366 --> 00:17:08,233
pipe or one of the hot water
549
00:17:08,233 --> 00:17:10,000
hookup through the wall to your sink.
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00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,900
Because it can just hook up to your
551
00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:12,200
sink's hot water too, if you want.
552
00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:14,566
Yeah, the sink's on the opposite side of
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00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:16,866
the bathroom and so is the shower.
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00:17:17,433 --> 00:17:20,366
So it's like, it's like fully on the
555
00:17:20,366 --> 00:17:21,233
other side of the room.
556
00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,933
Yeah, you could figure out a way.
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00:17:24,933 --> 00:17:26,633
I could have my
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friend Danny come help me.
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00:17:28,566 --> 00:17:30,799
Which would be easier trying to get like,
560
00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:31,966
yeah, hot water to that
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or just doing an electric
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one?
563
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Oh, yeah.
564
00:17:35,733 --> 00:17:37,033
I wish that I could take the cold water.
565
00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:38,633
Yeah, just take it.
566
00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:39,933
Take the cold water, dude.
567
00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:41,099
I mean, that's how I
568
00:17:41,099 --> 00:17:41,833
would do it in the beginning.
569
00:17:42,099 --> 00:17:45,333
But like, if I, so this is like, yeah, my
570
00:17:45,333 --> 00:17:47,200
Tushy's like a starter today and I really
571
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,033
like it so far.
572
00:17:48,266 --> 00:17:49,866
So I definitely recommend it to anyone.
573
00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:53,700
Save a lot on toilet paper and then, you
574
00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:57,166
know, just much more hygienic.
575
00:17:57,833 --> 00:17:58,033
Yeah.
576
00:17:59,033 --> 00:17:59,333
Dude.
577
00:17:59,666 --> 00:17:59,866
Yeah.
578
00:18:00,766 --> 00:18:02,433
Japan has some really nice bidetzo.
579
00:18:04,466 --> 00:18:06,233
They do even at the hotels, like the
580
00:18:06,233 --> 00:18:07,366
hotel I stayed at, like
581
00:18:07,366 --> 00:18:09,933
it was very nice, but like
582
00:18:09,933 --> 00:18:10,266
toilet.
583
00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:12,166
Even at the Airbnb I was at.
584
00:18:13,866 --> 00:18:15,766
I stayed in a few hotels in the Airbnb.
585
00:18:16,466 --> 00:18:17,533
That was pretty nice.
586
00:18:19,066 --> 00:18:20,500
There was also a, there was also a toilet
587
00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,933
at the Airbnb that also had a, all right.
588
00:18:23,933 --> 00:18:24,666
So when you flush the
589
00:18:24,666 --> 00:18:27,466
toilet, it turns on the sink.
590
00:18:27,466 --> 00:18:29,633
That's like literally right above it.
591
00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:30,733
And like you wash your
592
00:18:30,733 --> 00:18:31,700
hands in that toilet.
593
00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:32,933
Yeah.
594
00:18:32,933 --> 00:18:33,533
Which is crazy.
595
00:18:34,566 --> 00:18:35,000
Yeah.
596
00:18:35,833 --> 00:18:36,766
They have some weird stuff there.
597
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:38,933
Yeah.
598
00:18:39,566 --> 00:18:40,099
I mean, they do
599
00:18:40,099 --> 00:18:41,833
toilets right in Asia though.
600
00:18:41,833 --> 00:18:42,400
Or the most like a
601
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,033
lot of Asian countries.
602
00:18:43,766 --> 00:18:43,833
Yeah.
603
00:18:45,233 --> 00:18:46,700
Where you can spray
604
00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:47,900
off the whole bathroom.
605
00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:50,333
They do, did I say toilets?
606
00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:51,000
I meant bathroom.
607
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,533
Like the whole bathroom, you can spray it
608
00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:52,900
out and it has a
609
00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:53,533
drain right in the middle.
610
00:18:53,533 --> 00:18:55,666
So you can just clean it really easy.
611
00:18:56,099 --> 00:18:56,900
I feel like.
612
00:18:58,166 --> 00:19:00,233
Um, and once you have kids, you realize
613
00:19:00,233 --> 00:19:01,766
like, yeah, having a
614
00:19:01,766 --> 00:19:02,633
way to spray out the whole
615
00:19:02,633 --> 00:19:04,166
bathroom would be just amazing.
616
00:19:04,700 --> 00:19:07,900
Uh, but yeah, no, great, great time.
617
00:19:08,133 --> 00:19:09,666
Great, great week, Christmas week.
618
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,033
Curious, honestly, listeners and watchers
619
00:19:14,033 --> 00:19:15,533
like what did you do
620
00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:16,633
anything great or anything
621
00:19:16,633 --> 00:19:18,033
fun this week?
622
00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:20,299
Let us know in the comments below what
623
00:19:20,299 --> 00:19:22,266
any good games you bought.
624
00:19:22,566 --> 00:19:24,766
I mean, I got outer worlds too.
625
00:19:24,766 --> 00:19:27,133
I bought that with some steam bucks.
626
00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:29,966
Um, I plan on playing that probably in
627
00:19:29,966 --> 00:19:30,866
the next week or two.
628
00:19:30,866 --> 00:19:32,933
Like I'm really excited to play outer
629
00:19:32,933 --> 00:19:34,633
worlds, even though it
630
00:19:34,633 --> 00:19:35,700
didn't win game of the year.
631
00:19:36,233 --> 00:19:37,266
I love outer worlds one.
632
00:19:37,733 --> 00:19:38,733
So excited for that.
633
00:19:39,266 --> 00:19:42,166
Yeah, I bought haste as well.
634
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,633
Um, at one, two
635
00:19:43,633 --> 00:19:46,633
recommendation, uh, the first one haste.
636
00:19:47,099 --> 00:19:47,299
Okay.
637
00:19:48,233 --> 00:19:48,666
How was it?
638
00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:48,966
Nice.
639
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,166
It's pretty good.
640
00:19:50,533 --> 00:19:50,966
I like it.
641
00:19:51,366 --> 00:19:52,533
Oh, I'm thinking Hades.
642
00:19:52,766 --> 00:19:53,266
Oh my gosh.
643
00:19:53,633 --> 00:19:54,366
Yeah, I know Hades.
644
00:19:55,033 --> 00:19:55,533
Uh, not.
645
00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:56,433
I was thinking Hades.
646
00:19:57,433 --> 00:19:57,700
Yeah.
647
00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:58,333
It's this cool.
648
00:19:58,333 --> 00:19:59,166
Haste is cool.
649
00:19:59,166 --> 00:20:00,033
I like it.
650
00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:02,433
It's, it's like you, you have to, it,
651
00:20:02,666 --> 00:20:03,733
what was that one game
652
00:20:03,733 --> 00:20:05,866
where you have to like dive?
653
00:20:06,633 --> 00:20:07,700
It's like a side scroll and you have to
654
00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:08,933
like dive and like,
655
00:20:08,933 --> 00:20:11,566
like, uh, amplify your, your
656
00:20:11,566 --> 00:20:12,733
height based on like
657
00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:13,633
the ground below you.
658
00:20:13,866 --> 00:20:14,766
Anyway, it's like that, but
659
00:20:14,766 --> 00:20:16,433
it's 3d and it's super fun.
660
00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:17,866
It's really fast paced.
661
00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:20,866
That was the demo I did when we were
662
00:20:20,866 --> 00:20:21,933
doing demos almost a
663
00:20:21,933 --> 00:20:23,133
year ago and I loved it.
664
00:20:23,733 --> 00:20:23,933
Yeah.
665
00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:25,366
Oh, was it you that recommended it?
666
00:20:25,633 --> 00:20:26,099
It might've been you.
667
00:20:26,433 --> 00:20:27,466
Yeah, but it's good.
668
00:20:28,166 --> 00:20:29,833
Not what it was in an article.
669
00:20:29,833 --> 00:20:31,500
I know I've recommended haste multiple
670
00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:33,033
times and we've also,
671
00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:34,633
yeah, we've talked about it
672
00:20:34,633 --> 00:20:35,200
on the podcast.
673
00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:36,333
That's what I remember.
674
00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:37,933
But yeah, good stuff.
675
00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:42,500
The, the thing.
676
00:20:42,733 --> 00:20:44,633
Oh, haste would, the next version of
677
00:20:44,633 --> 00:20:47,266
haste should be like a beat saber style.
678
00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:47,833
That would be cool.
679
00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:49,633
I wonder if you could do that.
680
00:20:50,299 --> 00:20:50,500
Yeah.
681
00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:51,433
It would make me sick as a
682
00:20:51,433 --> 00:20:53,066
dog right off, like immediately.
683
00:20:53,766 --> 00:20:56,566
What it, VR, VR, I can't do it.
684
00:20:56,833 --> 00:20:58,233
Well, VR would be cool too, but I'm just
685
00:20:58,233 --> 00:20:59,200
saying like, it'd be fun
686
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,266
to have it have beats that
687
00:21:00,266 --> 00:21:02,366
you can kind of play it.
688
00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:02,733
Yeah.
689
00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:03,599
That would be.
690
00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:04,266
Play around with.
691
00:21:05,966 --> 00:21:06,066
Okay.
692
00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:06,633
Sorry.
693
00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:07,633
Okay.
694
00:21:08,966 --> 00:21:09,866
Let's.
695
00:21:11,433 --> 00:21:13,133
I cut someone off.
696
00:21:13,266 --> 00:21:14,666
No, you can't.
697
00:21:14,966 --> 00:21:16,433
Someone have anything else or should we
698
00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:17,366
continue on with this?
699
00:21:18,366 --> 00:21:18,566
Okay.
700
00:21:18,733 --> 00:21:19,233
Yeah, I think it's time for us to
701
00:21:19,233 --> 00:21:20,633
continue, go on with the show.
702
00:21:20,633 --> 00:21:21,133
We haven't started
703
00:21:21,133 --> 00:21:22,366
the actual podcast yet.
704
00:21:23,266 --> 00:21:23,799
What are you talking about?
705
00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:24,200
We've started the
706
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,066
actual podcast this time.
707
00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:25,700
I'm with the topics.
708
00:21:26,433 --> 00:21:27,799
People love to hear
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One that you're currently listened to.
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I mean, heck, you can subscribe to both
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We have links in the description below if
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this through.
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And yeah, Patreon, Patreon, Patreon, we
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have a Patreon where we
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have, I think at this point,
733
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like, I don't, we're getting close to,
734
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no, we're not to a
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dozen yet, but we're getting
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close to like six episodes that if you
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haven't subscribed yet, you
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can go back and subscribe.
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I believe right now
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it's $5, just a flat $5.
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And you can listen to our old, not
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we tend to record or topics that we'll
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get our blood boiling a little bit more.
746
00:22:36,766 --> 00:22:37,333
Yeah.
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That we've removed.
748
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It looks like we have almost, we have 10
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episodes over there.
750
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Oh, we have 10 episodes.
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Of bonus episodes, yeah.
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So there you go, guys.
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Go get your bonus on over there and
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with like editing and
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the software that we pay
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for and all that.
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It definitely helps a lot and we will
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always be like, and as
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things grow, we will have
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even more benefits for you guys over
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there, but the bonuses
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are good on their own right
766
00:23:07,933 --> 00:23:08,599
now.
767
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,400
If I did not say that
768
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,733
right, but you know, thanks guys.
769
00:23:15,566 --> 00:23:15,866
Yeah.
770
00:23:16,566 --> 00:23:20,133
So let's get into this week's topics and
771
00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:22,366
I will have to say, I
772
00:23:22,366 --> 00:23:25,933
don't like the first topic
773
00:23:25,933 --> 00:23:26,933
we're going to be talking about.
774
00:23:26,933 --> 00:23:29,933
It's really frustrating, but Claire
775
00:23:29,933 --> 00:23:31,966
obscure 30 expedition, 33
776
00:23:31,966 --> 00:23:33,233
disqualified from the indie
777
00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:36,433
games awards for generative AI usage.
778
00:23:37,033 --> 00:23:39,033
Yeah.
779
00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:39,766
Hi, tech.
780
00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:40,700
Were you the one that submitted this?
781
00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:41,733
Do you want to go over this?
782
00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:42,633
Yeah.
783
00:23:42,633 --> 00:23:44,700
So essentially the indie game awards, no
784
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:45,833
relation to the game
785
00:23:45,833 --> 00:23:48,566
awards is a separate award and
786
00:23:48,566 --> 00:23:51,900
one of their rules was a disclosure of AI
787
00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:54,266
usage and someone
788
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,233
from Sandrock apparently
789
00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:57,466
told them that they didn't use gen AI at
790
00:23:57,466 --> 00:24:00,633
all for the development of Claire obscure
791
00:24:02,833 --> 00:24:04,533
and they, it turns out they did.
792
00:24:06,233 --> 00:24:06,700
Yes.
793
00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:08,633
It was, and yes, it was a placeholder
794
00:24:08,633 --> 00:24:11,066
that even well, it's not enough.
795
00:24:11,066 --> 00:24:13,133
It wasn't, it was in the final ship game,
796
00:24:13,133 --> 00:24:14,000
but they patched out
797
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,099
really quickly when they
798
00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:16,066
realized, but yeah, it was,
799
00:24:16,066 --> 00:24:17,966
it was a poster on a pillar.
800
00:24:19,033 --> 00:24:20,466
Well, I mean, and that was it.
801
00:24:20,466 --> 00:24:22,066
The issue, the issue though, wasn't so
802
00:24:22,066 --> 00:24:23,066
much the use of AI
803
00:24:23,066 --> 00:24:23,966
because I'm sure they would
804
00:24:23,966 --> 00:24:25,933
have given it had they been, had they had
805
00:24:25,933 --> 00:24:27,400
someone at Sandrock told
806
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,266
them that they actually
807
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:30,133
like used it during development, but
808
00:24:30,133 --> 00:24:31,733
there was no AI in the game itself.
809
00:24:31,733 --> 00:24:32,000
Right.
810
00:24:32,933 --> 00:24:33,133
Right.
811
00:24:33,366 --> 00:24:36,766
But like they said they didn't use AI for
812
00:24:36,766 --> 00:24:37,466
the development of the
813
00:24:37,466 --> 00:24:38,299
game and implying that
814
00:24:38,299 --> 00:24:42,566
there were no like AI placeholders, which
815
00:24:42,566 --> 00:24:44,900
I mean is, that's basically the rule.
816
00:24:46,166 --> 00:24:48,766
I think it's a, I'm just going to say, I
817
00:24:48,766 --> 00:24:50,033
think it's a really stupid rule.
818
00:24:50,333 --> 00:24:51,299
I really hate it.
819
00:24:51,666 --> 00:24:52,799
I hate the gatekeeping
820
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:53,933
of it, but I get it also.
821
00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:54,566
I get it.
822
00:24:54,566 --> 00:24:55,466
Like if the whole game
823
00:24:55,466 --> 00:24:57,000
was made by AI, I get it.
824
00:24:57,733 --> 00:25:00,566
My problem is, is there's a lot more
825
00:25:00,566 --> 00:25:01,299
tools that are going to
826
00:25:01,299 --> 00:25:02,333
be introduced into gaming
827
00:25:02,333 --> 00:25:04,166
platform, like game development platforms
828
00:25:04,166 --> 00:25:05,666
that you're just not going to be able to,
829
00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:07,366
they're just going to kind of have
830
00:25:07,366 --> 00:25:09,966
generative or maybe AI,
831
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,366
maybe not generative AI, but
832
00:25:11,366 --> 00:25:11,933
like AI.
833
00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:17,200
So in place of clarity, the winner of the
834
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,799
indie game awards was blueprints.
835
00:25:20,633 --> 00:25:22,299
That's awesome.
836
00:25:22,299 --> 00:25:23,133
I love blueprints.
837
00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,133
I definitely, like for the indie game
838
00:25:25,133 --> 00:25:26,966
awards kind of thing, I do
839
00:25:26,966 --> 00:25:30,433
like, I'm glad that Expedition
840
00:25:30,733 --> 00:25:33,266
33 didn't quite win that because I do
841
00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:34,333
think that type of awards
842
00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,033
is just a different kind
843
00:25:36,066 --> 00:25:38,866
of system that they have.
844
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:44,733
It is nice to have a home for like, like
845
00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:46,933
truly like small game
846
00:25:46,933 --> 00:25:50,599
studios, but I'm just
847
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:53,066
mad that they disqualified it.
848
00:25:53,266 --> 00:25:53,900
And I'm wondering if
849
00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:54,966
they disqualified it.
850
00:25:54,966 --> 00:25:56,366
I wonder if they wanted to
851
00:25:56,366 --> 00:25:57,700
find a way to disqualify it too.
852
00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:58,766
Cause I know there's a lot of people that
853
00:25:58,766 --> 00:26:01,200
were not happy that this was mentioned to
854
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,433
be an indie title and I don't know.
855
00:26:04,433 --> 00:26:07,299
I just feel like it shouldn't have been
856
00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:08,599
disqualified personally.
857
00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:09,700
Here's the thing.
858
00:26:10,666 --> 00:26:12,866
I know people are like, oh yeah, AI, it
859
00:26:12,866 --> 00:26:13,966
saves a lot of time and
860
00:26:13,966 --> 00:26:15,133
lets us like ideate and
861
00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:15,566
whatever.
862
00:26:15,566 --> 00:26:18,400
But like as someone who like makes
863
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,400
videos, if you take
864
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,166
like, let's say that I make a
865
00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:28,133
movie and I put in temp
866
00:26:28,133 --> 00:26:30,066
audio, it can be whatever.
867
00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,700
It could be like a license track that I
868
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:33,366
don't have the license
869
00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:37,933
to, or it could be just some
870
00:26:37,933 --> 00:26:39,266
kind of stock audio, whatever.
871
00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:41,733
You put that in there and then it
872
00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:43,966
becomes, that's what you become used to.
873
00:26:44,266 --> 00:26:45,900
And then it becomes much more difficult
874
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:47,033
to actually replace it
875
00:26:47,033 --> 00:26:48,099
later when you're cutting
876
00:26:48,099 --> 00:26:50,900
to the music, you know, you're cutting
877
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:52,366
for that specific thing.
878
00:26:52,366 --> 00:26:54,433
And then when you go to take that and
879
00:26:54,433 --> 00:26:55,466
give it to an artist to
880
00:26:55,466 --> 00:26:56,866
say, here, this is what
881
00:26:56,866 --> 00:26:58,466
I put in as temporary audio.
882
00:26:58,466 --> 00:27:00,333
I want you to basically just do this.
883
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,299
It becomes much harder for the
884
00:27:02,299 --> 00:27:03,533
artist to express themselves.
885
00:27:04,433 --> 00:27:07,033
And I just find like the whole concept of
886
00:27:07,033 --> 00:27:08,566
like temporary art,
887
00:27:09,099 --> 00:27:09,666
you know, if you're not
888
00:27:09,733 --> 00:27:12,233
making it yourself, I just find it to be
889
00:27:12,233 --> 00:27:14,500
specious, like a specious use case.
890
00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:16,066
I don't know.
891
00:27:17,533 --> 00:27:19,033
I just don't see, I don't get it.
892
00:27:19,233 --> 00:27:19,633
I don't know why.
893
00:27:19,633 --> 00:27:22,133
So the art in Expedition 33 is very
894
00:27:22,133 --> 00:27:24,099
unique and it is not, in my
895
00:27:24,099 --> 00:27:26,233
opinion, heavily influenced
896
00:27:26,233 --> 00:27:26,733
by AI.
897
00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:30,000
So I don't know how much of their, like,
898
00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:31,833
the art isn't, it was
899
00:27:31,833 --> 00:27:33,466
maybe influenced by AI,
900
00:27:33,833 --> 00:27:36,200
but the placeholders that they used were
901
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,666
posters on a pillar that was left in.
902
00:27:40,433 --> 00:27:42,833
I'm sure they had AI art in other places,
903
00:27:43,066 --> 00:27:44,233
but like their creative
904
00:27:44,233 --> 00:27:46,033
director did a really,
905
00:27:46,266 --> 00:27:47,666
or their creative director and their
906
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:49,366
like, their artists and
907
00:27:49,366 --> 00:27:50,333
stuff like that did a really
908
00:27:50,333 --> 00:27:51,833
good job of flushing out
909
00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:53,166
something that is very unique.
910
00:27:53,766 --> 00:27:56,433
So I don't know.
911
00:27:56,433 --> 00:27:57,900
I think it really depends on the person,
912
00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:59,033
the studio, maybe even
913
00:27:59,033 --> 00:27:59,966
like whether or not how
914
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,933
heavily stuff will get influenced by AI,
915
00:28:02,233 --> 00:28:06,066
but we're, we already
916
00:28:06,066 --> 00:28:07,233
take inspirations as
917
00:28:07,233 --> 00:28:07,700
an artist.
918
00:28:07,933 --> 00:28:08,966
Most artists will take
919
00:28:08,966 --> 00:28:10,433
inspirations from past art.
920
00:28:10,433 --> 00:28:13,833
That's how creative works have worked for
921
00:28:13,833 --> 00:28:17,099
generations, for millennia almost.
922
00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:20,066
It's where we build on that.
923
00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:23,133
And so I don't know.
924
00:28:23,133 --> 00:28:24,333
I'm having, I have a hard time because I
925
00:28:24,333 --> 00:28:25,466
both agree with you,
926
00:28:25,466 --> 00:28:26,599
Gardner, because I do think
927
00:28:26,733 --> 00:28:29,566
it could end up hurting the creative
928
00:28:29,566 --> 00:28:31,066
process or it could
929
00:28:31,066 --> 00:28:33,133
really, maybe it could help.
930
00:28:35,966 --> 00:28:37,366
For me, I can say from personal
931
00:28:37,366 --> 00:28:38,866
experience, I do use
932
00:28:38,866 --> 00:28:41,233
generative AI for some placeholder
933
00:28:41,466 --> 00:28:41,599
stuff.
934
00:28:42,766 --> 00:28:45,533
I do not like it, but it is better than
935
00:28:45,533 --> 00:28:47,066
just having like a black
936
00:28:47,066 --> 00:28:49,200
box there or, you know,
937
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,766
like some really stupid piece.
938
00:28:53,033 --> 00:28:56,633
So I do use some generative, but I'm
939
00:28:56,633 --> 00:28:58,566
ready to replace it.
940
00:28:58,566 --> 00:28:59,133
I will say that.
941
00:29:00,033 --> 00:29:00,799
Yeah.
942
00:29:01,233 --> 00:29:02,833
I mean, it was super tempting for me when
943
00:29:02,833 --> 00:29:06,233
I was like doing some of the art for, for
944
00:29:06,233 --> 00:29:07,299
chess mess specifically.
945
00:29:07,866 --> 00:29:12,400
Like I was like, I'm not like super, I
946
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,166
don't feel like I'm a
947
00:29:13,166 --> 00:29:15,233
really good like artist in
948
00:29:15,233 --> 00:29:16,666
the way that I want
949
00:29:16,666 --> 00:29:18,466
this to look in my head.
950
00:29:19,233 --> 00:29:20,433
And it was like super tempting for me to
951
00:29:20,433 --> 00:29:21,433
just be like, hey, AI
952
00:29:21,433 --> 00:29:23,933
make, you know, tapestry,
953
00:29:23,933 --> 00:29:26,166
like make it look, make like chess pieces
954
00:29:26,166 --> 00:29:27,299
attacking each other in
955
00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:29,333
like a medieval tapestry
956
00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:30,366
style.
957
00:29:31,366 --> 00:29:32,966
But I didn't do that.
958
00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:34,166
Instead I went and like looked at
959
00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:35,933
medieval tapestries and
960
00:29:35,933 --> 00:29:37,366
then took some of the existing
961
00:29:37,366 --> 00:29:40,966
art I had and threw it into Inkscape.
962
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,833
And then I tried to like degrade it in
963
00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:43,733
Photoshop or not
964
00:29:43,733 --> 00:29:44,933
Photoshop, but Gimp afterwards.
965
00:29:45,866 --> 00:29:47,966
And I don't know, it looks okay.
966
00:29:47,966 --> 00:29:49,166
I'm not a great artist though.
967
00:29:50,366 --> 00:29:50,566
Yeah.
968
00:29:51,099 --> 00:29:54,066
I mean, if I, that's the also the part
969
00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:55,366
with this like game I'm making.
970
00:29:55,366 --> 00:29:57,266
If the vertical slice in the demo I make
971
00:29:57,266 --> 00:29:59,033
is good enough to get
972
00:29:59,033 --> 00:30:01,366
like funding for it, then
973
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:03,366
I want to, at the end of the day, I'd
974
00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:04,933
love to hire an artist right now.
975
00:30:05,733 --> 00:30:07,633
I'd love to work with like a really good
976
00:30:07,633 --> 00:30:11,733
3D artist or, and or concept artists.
977
00:30:11,733 --> 00:30:13,500
Like usually they're two separate people
978
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:13,966
because they're
979
00:30:13,966 --> 00:30:16,000
drastically different ways of, of
980
00:30:16,933 --> 00:30:18,366
coming up with the art, like the 3D
981
00:30:18,366 --> 00:30:19,966
artists, the textures and
982
00:30:19,966 --> 00:30:21,433
the concept art are all very,
983
00:30:22,533 --> 00:30:23,733
take their own unique skills.
984
00:30:24,066 --> 00:30:25,033
I'd love to hire people.
985
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:26,533
It just, it costs money
986
00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:28,000
that I just do not have, right?
987
00:30:28,266 --> 00:30:29,966
And so I'd work with
988
00:30:29,966 --> 00:30:31,533
someone on a personal stand.
989
00:30:31,766 --> 00:30:33,966
I just don't feel, I
990
00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:34,833
feel like, I don't know.
991
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,200
I don't know of anyone that's like,
992
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:37,433
that's a good enough
993
00:30:37,433 --> 00:30:38,299
artist to do that too.
994
00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:41,599
So having AI and maybe that's going to be
995
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:42,833
my crux in the end is
996
00:30:42,833 --> 00:30:45,366
like, I'm going to rely
997
00:30:45,433 --> 00:30:47,133
too much on AI for this, but we'll find
998
00:30:47,133 --> 00:30:48,366
out, I guess in 2026.
999
00:30:51,066 --> 00:30:58,666
So I don't like, I'm just going to say, I
1000
00:30:58,666 --> 00:31:00,266
think they patched it out.
1001
00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:01,666
I think it was a mistake.
1002
00:31:01,666 --> 00:31:03,966
I think the game grew much bigger than
1003
00:31:03,966 --> 00:31:04,666
they were expecting,
1004
00:31:04,666 --> 00:31:05,566
much quicker than they were
1005
00:31:05,766 --> 00:31:06,066
expecting.
1006
00:31:06,066 --> 00:31:06,733
Like they started out
1007
00:31:06,733 --> 00:31:07,900
smaller and then they grew.
1008
00:31:08,633 --> 00:31:10,433
I think a lot of mistakes and a lot of
1009
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:11,299
stuff falls through.
1010
00:31:11,299 --> 00:31:12,433
So even the person that said, yeah, we
1011
00:31:12,433 --> 00:31:13,466
didn't use generative AI
1012
00:31:13,466 --> 00:31:14,266
or something like that,
1013
00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:16,633
or maybe they said we didn't use AI, who
1014
00:31:16,633 --> 00:31:17,633
knows what they knew?
1015
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,933
I think there's a lot of nuance to this
1016
00:31:19,933 --> 00:31:20,733
type of stuff, a lot of
1017
00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:21,599
mistakes, but at the same
1018
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,166
time, hopefully they don't turn into a
1019
00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:25,166
big corporation that
1020
00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:27,233
just lies about stuff.
1021
00:31:27,866 --> 00:31:30,933
So I get, I think it would have been nice
1022
00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:32,866
to like give them some
1023
00:31:32,866 --> 00:31:34,033
leniency on this type
1024
00:31:34,033 --> 00:31:34,866
of thing.
1025
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:38,333
Well, the bed's neat already and they
1026
00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:39,933
certainly made an
1027
00:31:39,933 --> 00:31:41,500
example out of Expedition 33.
1028
00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:43,633
Yeah, the bed's been made and that's why
1029
00:31:43,633 --> 00:31:44,466
I'm making my comments.
1030
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:45,166
I think they're wrong
1031
00:31:45,166 --> 00:31:46,733
and I think it's boring.
1032
00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:47,266
They did.
1033
00:31:47,666 --> 00:31:48,366
That's just my opinion.
1034
00:31:48,933 --> 00:31:50,099
So they made the decision.
1035
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:51,766
I think it was completely wrong.
1036
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,866
I wish that, I hope that they can come up
1037
00:31:54,866 --> 00:31:55,233
with some better
1038
00:31:55,233 --> 00:31:56,666
rules in the future, more
1039
00:31:56,666 --> 00:31:59,466
leniency, but at the same time, I think
1040
00:31:59,466 --> 00:31:59,966
if this would have
1041
00:31:59,966 --> 00:32:02,333
happened with a game that
1042
00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:06,433
was more like smaller where they just
1043
00:32:06,433 --> 00:32:07,133
don't have as much
1044
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:09,533
defense, because the Expedition's
1045
00:32:09,533 --> 00:32:10,299
like at the end of the day,
1046
00:32:10,299 --> 00:32:11,166
this doesn't matter for them.
1047
00:32:11,366 --> 00:32:12,266
Like they're going to make, they've
1048
00:32:12,266 --> 00:32:13,133
already made their money.
1049
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,366
They've made so much money.
1050
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,333
The game awards already been awarded to
1051
00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,033
them, like the big game award.
1052
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:23,233
But we're going to see a lot more, I
1053
00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:24,166
think really good indie
1054
00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:25,333
games come out that have
1055
00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:26,266
used some AI.
1056
00:32:27,433 --> 00:32:29,033
I know that they need to disclose it, but
1057
00:32:29,033 --> 00:32:31,266
like it will soon not
1058
00:32:31,266 --> 00:32:32,233
be a thing to disclose
1059
00:32:32,266 --> 00:32:36,733
it, I think, or it's going
1060
00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:37,966
to be hard to disclose it.
1061
00:32:37,966 --> 00:32:39,666
About those indie games, do you think
1062
00:32:39,666 --> 00:32:40,733
they'll show up on my
1063
00:32:40,733 --> 00:32:43,333
cloud gaming service of choice
1064
00:32:43,366 --> 00:32:44,666
GeForce Now?
1065
00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:46,366
Yeah.
1066
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,533
So for those who don't know, GeForce Now,
1067
00:32:53,133 --> 00:32:54,233
service Nvidia runs
1068
00:32:54,233 --> 00:32:55,933
our favorite company of
1069
00:32:55,933 --> 00:32:56,333
the year.
1070
00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:58,866
Nvidia runs GeForce Now.
1071
00:32:59,633 --> 00:33:00,400
Essentially, you get to
1072
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,366
play games through the cloud.
1073
00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:04,833
And I mean, truth be told, the service is
1074
00:33:04,833 --> 00:33:05,200
actually pretty
1075
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,233
decent, but there's always
1076
00:33:07,233 --> 00:33:08,266
something about cloud gaming
1077
00:33:08,266 --> 00:33:10,033
that never feels quite right.
1078
00:33:10,666 --> 00:33:11,700
It would probably work better in a
1079
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:12,866
country with good internet
1080
00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:14,933
and is a lot smaller, like
1081
00:33:14,933 --> 00:33:15,366
Japan.
1082
00:33:17,466 --> 00:33:19,266
But in the US, it's just never, it's
1083
00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:20,033
never going to work.
1084
00:33:20,566 --> 00:33:22,033
Like if I don't have a data center in my
1085
00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:24,866
state, it doesn't
1086
00:33:24,866 --> 00:33:25,566
really, it's not going to work
1087
00:33:25,566 --> 00:33:26,333
as well, of course.
1088
00:33:26,833 --> 00:33:27,933
I mean, data centers
1089
00:33:27,933 --> 00:33:29,000
are everywhere now, right?
1090
00:33:30,933 --> 00:33:32,166
Are there going to be a lot of little
1091
00:33:32,166 --> 00:33:33,133
data centers around or are
1092
00:33:33,133 --> 00:33:34,133
there going to be multiple
1093
00:33:34,133 --> 00:33:36,533
big data centers in like big towns?
1094
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:38,500
What's the distance?
1095
00:33:38,733 --> 00:33:41,466
Because I'm in Utah and I've tried it and
1096
00:33:41,466 --> 00:33:43,266
it worked fine for me for the most part.
1097
00:33:43,266 --> 00:33:44,833
I think there's always going to be some
1098
00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:46,033
latency, even if you're
1099
00:33:46,033 --> 00:33:46,933
right next to the data center,
1100
00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:49,599
but I don't know.
1101
00:33:51,133 --> 00:33:52,666
Let's see what Nvidia says.
1102
00:33:56,633 --> 00:33:59,633
There's the closest, oh, there is one in
1103
00:33:59,633 --> 00:34:01,066
close to my neck of the woods.
1104
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:02,766
Interesting.
1105
00:34:05,533 --> 00:34:07,033
But again, not everyone's going to have
1106
00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:08,766
access to decent
1107
00:34:08,766 --> 00:34:12,333
internet and living close to an
1108
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:13,666
Nvidia data center.
1109
00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:18,166
And so, especially like people out in
1110
00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:19,266
like the Midwest where
1111
00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:20,866
internet speeds aren't great
1112
00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:23,766
and data centers are kind
1113
00:34:23,766 --> 00:34:25,766
of not great either there.
1114
00:34:26,933 --> 00:34:27,166
Agreed.
1115
00:34:27,666 --> 00:34:30,066
No, I, yeah.
1116
00:34:30,266 --> 00:34:30,966
Yeah, but that's not why
1117
00:34:30,966 --> 00:34:32,000
we're talking about this topic.
1118
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,466
We're talking about-
1119
00:34:32,466 --> 00:34:33,166
No, it's not.
1120
00:34:34,033 --> 00:34:36,066
I think it's fine to have like a game
1121
00:34:36,066 --> 00:34:37,233
streaming service like this.
1122
00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:38,466
I think it's good to have choices.
1123
00:34:38,466 --> 00:34:41,099
I think that's how our economy is
1124
00:34:41,099 --> 00:34:42,133
supposed to work, but
1125
00:34:42,133 --> 00:34:45,366
yeah, what if this is your only
1126
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,099
real choice because more and more
1127
00:34:47,099 --> 00:34:47,966
competitors are getting shut
1128
00:34:47,966 --> 00:34:49,966
down and then they implement
1129
00:34:50,066 --> 00:34:51,333
what are they implementing?
1130
00:34:53,133 --> 00:34:57,733
A time limit, 100 hours a month and you
1131
00:34:57,733 --> 00:35:00,466
can pay more for more time.
1132
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,133
And supposedly it's more economical to
1133
00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:04,366
have two subscriptions
1134
00:35:04,366 --> 00:35:07,099
to GeForce Now rather than
1135
00:35:07,099 --> 00:35:09,466
pay for 15 hour blocks,
1136
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,233
which is insane to me.
1137
00:35:14,566 --> 00:35:14,833
This is-
1138
00:35:15,066 --> 00:35:16,366
10 hours is a lot of time.
1139
00:35:17,766 --> 00:35:20,133
Yeah, it starts at 100 hours and then
1140
00:35:20,133 --> 00:35:21,433
next year it'll be 90
1141
00:35:21,433 --> 00:35:23,033
hours and then next year
1142
00:35:23,033 --> 00:35:24,733
it'll be 80 hours and then the next year
1143
00:35:24,733 --> 00:35:25,833
it'll be 70 hours and
1144
00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:26,833
people will complain about
1145
00:35:26,833 --> 00:35:27,066
it.
1146
00:35:27,933 --> 00:35:31,033
Yeah, but 70 hours covers 95% of all
1147
00:35:31,033 --> 00:35:32,699
players on our thing and
1148
00:35:32,699 --> 00:35:34,066
then it will be 60 and then
1149
00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:34,966
it will be 50.
1150
00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:35,900
This is how they work.
1151
00:35:36,533 --> 00:35:37,400
This is what they do.
1152
00:35:37,833 --> 00:35:39,266
It's how they get you.
1153
00:35:39,766 --> 00:35:42,733
It's my thing too is that cloud gaming in
1154
00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:44,733
and of itself isn't a bad concept.
1155
00:35:45,433 --> 00:35:47,099
It's just that when Nvidia wants to go
1156
00:35:47,099 --> 00:35:48,333
all in with AI and
1157
00:35:48,333 --> 00:35:50,633
cloud streaming, it really
1158
00:35:50,633 --> 00:35:52,300
begs the question of if they even want to
1159
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:53,066
sell hardware to
1160
00:35:53,066 --> 00:35:54,900
gamers anymore instead of
1161
00:35:54,933 --> 00:35:56,566
just having everything run through them.
1162
00:35:57,266 --> 00:36:00,800
Because I bet you it's going to make a
1163
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,366
lot more if they just
1164
00:36:02,366 --> 00:36:03,733
rented out their GPS instead
1165
00:36:03,733 --> 00:36:04,599
of selling them.
1166
00:36:06,733 --> 00:36:09,733
Yeah, I'm kind of curious if that's true.
1167
00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:11,866
Really want to know.
1168
00:36:11,866 --> 00:36:13,366
I don't know if these game streaming
1169
00:36:13,366 --> 00:36:15,033
services actually make that much money.
1170
00:36:15,033 --> 00:36:16,366
That's why Google stopped.
1171
00:36:18,366 --> 00:36:19,866
GeForce Now, they've changed their
1172
00:36:19,866 --> 00:36:22,066
pricing plan multiple times.
1173
00:36:23,566 --> 00:36:25,533
I think they used to have per hour usage
1174
00:36:25,533 --> 00:36:26,533
and then maybe they still do.
1175
00:36:26,833 --> 00:36:30,133
But 100 hours monthly time and they have
1176
00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:31,033
to pay extra is not
1177
00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:32,733
horrible, but you're not
1178
00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:33,599
wrong, Gardiner.
1179
00:36:33,966 --> 00:36:35,500
Are they going to decrease that?
1180
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:36,099
Are they going to...
1181
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:36,766
I don't know.
1182
00:36:36,766 --> 00:36:41,033
I don't like the idea of tying my gaming
1183
00:36:41,033 --> 00:36:42,699
to a service that
1184
00:36:42,699 --> 00:36:44,966
could be changed six months
1185
00:36:44,966 --> 00:36:45,533
down the road.
1186
00:36:45,533 --> 00:36:48,433
I've already tied my domains to a company
1187
00:36:48,433 --> 00:36:49,566
that screwed me over.
1188
00:36:50,233 --> 00:36:53,033
I don't want to necessarily have my
1189
00:36:53,033 --> 00:36:55,433
leisure time tied to that.
1190
00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:57,266
I get it.
1191
00:36:57,966 --> 00:37:00,266
A lot of gamers don't play 100 hours of
1192
00:37:00,266 --> 00:37:03,599
gaming in a month, but I
1193
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:04,500
don't like the idea of having
1194
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,633
a time limit on
1195
00:37:06,633 --> 00:37:07,566
something I pay for monthly.
1196
00:37:08,966 --> 00:37:09,766
I don't either.
1197
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,966
I also don't like the idea that if you
1198
00:37:13,966 --> 00:37:15,633
pay for 100 dollars and
1199
00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:16,666
you don't use them, then
1200
00:37:16,666 --> 00:37:17,333
you just lose them.
1201
00:37:18,266 --> 00:37:19,266
Yeah.
1202
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,733
Yeah.
1203
00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:20,866
I think it's just a limit.
1204
00:37:20,866 --> 00:37:21,433
I don't think you're
1205
00:37:21,433 --> 00:37:22,733
paying for 100 hours.
1206
00:37:22,733 --> 00:37:25,266
You can only play up to 100 hours.
1207
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:28,666
That's how you'd have to see it or else
1208
00:37:28,666 --> 00:37:29,733
it would be a rollover.
1209
00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:31,433
I mean, truth be told, if you're a gamer
1210
00:37:31,433 --> 00:37:32,666
that plays over 100
1211
00:37:32,666 --> 00:37:33,933
hours, you should just
1212
00:37:34,699 --> 00:37:35,666
buy a gamer PC.
1213
00:37:36,099 --> 00:37:36,666
I mean, that's probably
1214
00:37:36,666 --> 00:37:37,233
what they're thinking.
1215
00:37:38,033 --> 00:37:38,233
Yeah.
1216
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,666
That is assuming their master plan isn't
1217
00:37:41,666 --> 00:37:43,566
to rob the world of
1218
00:37:43,566 --> 00:37:44,766
affordable home computing.
1219
00:37:46,466 --> 00:37:46,866
That's their plan.
1220
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:48,966
Make no mistake.
1221
00:37:49,233 --> 00:37:49,833
That's everything.
1222
00:37:49,833 --> 00:37:51,666
I mean, I will admit it does sound very
1223
00:37:51,666 --> 00:37:55,733
conspiratorial because, I mean, there's
1224
00:37:55,733 --> 00:37:57,933
no evidence to suggest
1225
00:37:57,933 --> 00:37:58,533
that besides
1226
00:37:58,533 --> 00:37:59,566
everything going up in price.
1227
00:38:01,533 --> 00:38:04,400
But as a company, they're going to
1228
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,500
benefit more and more as
1229
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,500
more things are displaced
1230
00:38:06,566 --> 00:38:07,366
into data centers.
1231
00:38:07,366 --> 00:38:08,666
And so they're going to want that.
1232
00:38:08,966 --> 00:38:12,000
And unless you had a healthy government
1233
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,266
to help limit some of this with some.
1234
00:38:17,566 --> 00:38:20,466
With some limitations and some laws, it's
1235
00:38:20,466 --> 00:38:21,599
just going to keep on going.
1236
00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:23,133
And I don't know.
1237
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:24,366
It's Nvidia.
1238
00:38:24,866 --> 00:38:27,733
I mean, Nvidia just they very much feel
1239
00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:29,066
like a country or a
1240
00:38:29,066 --> 00:38:30,233
company out of control at this
1241
00:38:30,233 --> 00:38:30,533
point.
1242
00:38:30,766 --> 00:38:31,133
Yeah.
1243
00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:35,333
I highly doubt what's his face.
1244
00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:36,666
The CEO even.
1245
00:38:36,666 --> 00:38:37,366
Jensen Wong.
1246
00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:38,733
Yeah.
1247
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:43,099
Even has any real control over the
1248
00:38:43,099 --> 00:38:44,433
direction of the company at this point.
1249
00:38:44,866 --> 00:38:48,433
Dude, when when Jensen Wong goes out for
1250
00:38:48,433 --> 00:38:50,766
fried chicken, Korean chicken.
1251
00:38:52,266 --> 00:38:54,266
And that company that he goes to isn't
1252
00:38:54,266 --> 00:38:55,733
even on the isn't even
1253
00:38:55,733 --> 00:38:57,466
publicly traded, but other
1254
00:38:58,033 --> 00:39:00,233
freaking publicly traded Korean chicken
1255
00:39:00,233 --> 00:39:02,400
franchises have their price bump.
1256
00:39:03,433 --> 00:39:05,566
That's called insanity, dude.
1257
00:39:05,966 --> 00:39:07,066
Like you're right.
1258
00:39:07,066 --> 00:39:08,833
It's completely out of control.
1259
00:39:08,833 --> 00:39:11,266
It's like this is a this is a freight
1260
00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:12,033
train that's about to
1261
00:39:12,033 --> 00:39:13,133
go off the rails, man.
1262
00:39:13,466 --> 00:39:15,400
Do you think our net worth would go up
1263
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,666
like a billion dollars
1264
00:39:16,666 --> 00:39:18,033
if we had Jensen Wong on
1265
00:39:18,033 --> 00:39:18,466
the podcast?
1266
00:39:20,266 --> 00:39:21,166
Yes, we would.
1267
00:39:21,166 --> 00:39:22,666
Yes, there would be companies
1268
00:39:22,666 --> 00:39:24,133
trying to buy heavy element.
1269
00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:28,266
No.
1270
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:29,166
OK.
1271
00:39:29,699 --> 00:39:32,266
New 2026 goals for the podcast.
1272
00:39:32,966 --> 00:39:36,133
Get get get some guests like Jensen Wong.
1273
00:39:36,699 --> 00:39:38,866
What we should do, what we should do is
1274
00:39:38,866 --> 00:39:41,166
we should get, you know,
1275
00:39:41,166 --> 00:39:42,199
off the console publicly
1276
00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:44,033
traded and we should call it
1277
00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:45,966
Korean fried chicken podcast.
1278
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:47,300
Oh, my gosh.
1279
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,566
And video court.
1280
00:39:49,366 --> 00:39:51,500
And then one day and then one day we
1281
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,766
actually review Korean
1282
00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:55,366
fried chicken on the podcast
1283
00:39:55,833 --> 00:39:56,433
and just make the
1284
00:39:56,433 --> 00:39:57,466
entire episode about that.
1285
00:39:58,066 --> 00:39:58,766
Yeah, like we've
1286
00:39:58,766 --> 00:39:59,900
already talked about eating.
1287
00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:02,466
We should ask Bill.
1288
00:40:02,733 --> 00:40:04,233
Oh, Bill was on that.
1289
00:40:04,566 --> 00:40:05,633
Bill was on that episode.
1290
00:40:05,633 --> 00:40:06,333
We should see if he's
1291
00:40:06,333 --> 00:40:07,666
actually tried it since then.
1292
00:40:08,633 --> 00:40:09,333
Oh, that's true.
1293
00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:10,733
I'll tell you what.
1294
00:40:11,166 --> 00:40:12,199
Bonchon is awesome if
1295
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:13,666
you haven't had Bonchon.
1296
00:40:13,666 --> 00:40:16,266
They used to have a Bonchon.
1297
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,533
They used to have a Bonchon near me, but
1298
00:40:18,533 --> 00:40:19,366
then they closed that
1299
00:40:19,366 --> 00:40:20,833
down and it's now a Mexican
1300
00:40:20,833 --> 00:40:21,300
restaurant.
1301
00:40:22,633 --> 00:40:24,766
Yeah, there's a Bonchon a little further
1302
00:40:24,766 --> 00:40:25,766
down, but I don't want I
1303
00:40:25,766 --> 00:40:26,366
don't feel like driving
1304
00:40:26,433 --> 00:40:27,866
30 minutes to get to Bonchon.
1305
00:40:28,699 --> 00:40:30,900
Maybe if we had good public transit,
1306
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:32,533
we'll take a picture of
1307
00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:33,266
the next time I walked up
1308
00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:35,066
on because it's literally I can walk to
1309
00:40:35,066 --> 00:40:36,500
it in like two minutes.
1310
00:40:38,266 --> 00:40:41,199
Do an IRL stream of you walking from your
1311
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:44,433
office to your local Bonchon.
1312
00:40:45,866 --> 00:40:47,599
I don't think I'm going to do that.
1313
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:47,966
I'm not going to
1314
00:40:47,966 --> 00:40:49,500
reveal exactly where I live.
1315
00:40:50,133 --> 00:40:50,466
True that.
1316
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:51,500
Yeah.
1317
00:40:52,466 --> 00:40:55,699
Speaking of NVIDIA's insanity, did you
1318
00:40:55,699 --> 00:40:58,000
see that new NVIDIA nitrogen AI?
1319
00:40:59,433 --> 00:40:59,900
No.
1320
00:41:00,666 --> 00:41:02,133
I thought it was Nintendo's nitrogen.
1321
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:03,699
Yeah, I thought.
1322
00:41:03,699 --> 00:41:04,533
Yeah, I thought.
1323
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:05,666
I thought you thought that too.
1324
00:41:07,166 --> 00:41:08,900
Exactly what it sounds like.
1325
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,566
It's NVIDIA researchers creating AI that
1326
00:41:13,566 --> 00:41:15,133
plays video games for you.
1327
00:41:15,833 --> 00:41:18,033
Oh, dude, I predicted basically this in
1328
00:41:18,033 --> 00:41:20,233
the in the bonus episode.
1329
00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:22,333
We did like 2026 predictions.
1330
00:41:23,466 --> 00:41:28,066
So it's it's just what I wanted in a
1331
00:41:28,066 --> 00:41:29,933
highly interactive medium.
1332
00:41:30,633 --> 00:41:33,966
The dude the game playing itself for me.
1333
00:41:35,133 --> 00:41:37,166
I may as well just skip the middle man
1334
00:41:37,166 --> 00:41:39,466
and like stop buying
1335
00:41:39,466 --> 00:41:40,766
computer hardware altogether
1336
00:41:41,466 --> 00:41:44,066
and just watch a let's play on my phone.
1337
00:41:46,733 --> 00:41:49,366
Yeah, so like some people don't mind
1338
00:41:49,366 --> 00:41:50,866
watching games be played
1339
00:41:50,866 --> 00:41:52,366
through without any commentary.
1340
00:41:52,366 --> 00:41:53,866
There's a few streamers that do that, but
1341
00:41:53,866 --> 00:41:57,000
for the most part, I agree.
1342
00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:01,566
I think people come for a personality,
1343
00:42:01,966 --> 00:42:02,666
come for opinions,
1344
00:42:02,866 --> 00:42:04,433
come for companionship.
1345
00:42:04,433 --> 00:42:08,033
And if it's a void box, then I just
1346
00:42:08,033 --> 00:42:11,133
a.k.a. an AI, I just it's
1347
00:42:11,133 --> 00:42:11,733
not going to be entertaining.
1348
00:42:12,066 --> 00:42:14,833
The difference between that and like what
1349
00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:15,766
like watching someone
1350
00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:16,833
play is that you know
1351
00:42:16,833 --> 00:42:18,400
someone's actually playing the game.
1352
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,866
Like if it's like a speed run or like
1353
00:42:21,866 --> 00:42:22,966
maybe just high level
1354
00:42:22,966 --> 00:42:24,400
gameplay with no commentary,
1355
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,433
you know something.
1356
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,066
But the difference is this is AI running
1357
00:42:28,066 --> 00:42:31,466
and presumably playing the games locally.
1358
00:42:31,566 --> 00:42:34,033
It's like why even bother
1359
00:42:34,033 --> 00:42:35,366
playing games at this point?
1360
00:42:36,266 --> 00:42:38,599
Like I think this is meant to be for fun.
1361
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:40,866
I don't know if we should like fully get
1362
00:42:40,866 --> 00:42:41,633
into too much because I
1363
00:42:41,633 --> 00:42:42,400
don't think this is going
1364
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,833
to destroy any type of markets.
1365
00:42:44,733 --> 00:42:46,133
I I do think research
1366
00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:47,266
wise, I think it's fascinating.
1367
00:42:48,266 --> 00:42:50,466
So I'm open source foundation model
1368
00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:53,966
designed to play a thousand plus games.
1369
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:56,800
So it's open source in case any of you
1370
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,533
guys wanted to program
1371
00:42:58,533 --> 00:42:59,766
your own bot that can play
1372
00:42:59,766 --> 00:43:00,300
video games.
1373
00:43:00,766 --> 00:43:01,166
Well, that's another
1374
00:43:01,166 --> 00:43:02,066
interesting thing, too.
1375
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:06,000
But especially in games like MMOs.
1376
00:43:07,066 --> 00:43:08,199
Where you have gold farmers.
1377
00:43:09,233 --> 00:43:09,433
Mm hmm.
1378
00:43:09,666 --> 00:43:11,033
Oh yeah, I can definitely be.
1379
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:13,266
Yeah, that's that was the first thing I
1380
00:43:13,266 --> 00:43:14,266
thought was like this is
1381
00:43:14,266 --> 00:43:16,533
just going to make cheating
1382
00:43:16,966 --> 00:43:18,400
in online games a lot
1383
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,733
easier and much harder to detect.
1384
00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:25,266
Well, I mean, I think it's a bad idea.
1385
00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:26,000
Yeah.
1386
00:43:26,733 --> 00:43:28,033
I mean, I think it's been a while now had
1387
00:43:28,033 --> 00:43:29,266
some type of AI that
1388
00:43:29,266 --> 00:43:30,633
are specifically geared
1389
00:43:30,633 --> 00:43:32,033
towards online games.
1390
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:34,099
But so I'm curious if this
1391
00:43:34,099 --> 00:43:35,166
would even be able to do that.
1392
00:43:35,166 --> 00:43:37,033
Well, I wonder how good the
1393
00:43:37,033 --> 00:43:38,166
precision is and all that.
1394
00:43:38,166 --> 00:43:39,266
So there's a YouTuber
1395
00:43:39,266 --> 00:43:40,466
called Basically Homeless.
1396
00:43:40,833 --> 00:43:42,766
He used to be a Rainbow Six YouTuber.
1397
00:43:43,733 --> 00:43:46,933
But then he's gone hard into basically
1398
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:49,966
creating physical aim bots.
1399
00:43:51,766 --> 00:43:53,566
He has like one of his videos is
1400
00:43:53,566 --> 00:43:55,599
neuromuscular cyborg aim assist.
1401
00:43:57,666 --> 00:43:59,366
Where he has a bunch of wires attached to
1402
00:43:59,366 --> 00:44:02,733
his arm and it helps him it helps him aim
1403
00:44:02,733 --> 00:44:03,933
better somehow.
1404
00:44:04,333 --> 00:44:05,233
I haven't watched the video yet.
1405
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
I watched another video where he has he
1406
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,566
basically has an
1407
00:44:08,566 --> 00:44:10,733
exoskeleton aim for him and it jerks
1408
00:44:10,733 --> 00:44:13,366
his arm around to like click on heads.
1409
00:44:13,866 --> 00:44:15,666
That way you're not technically cheating
1410
00:44:15,666 --> 00:44:16,733
by running software.
1411
00:44:17,833 --> 00:44:19,233
You're technically cheating by having
1412
00:44:19,233 --> 00:44:21,000
physical augments for your body.
1413
00:44:23,266 --> 00:44:25,533
I think it's cool if you're doing it not
1414
00:44:25,533 --> 00:44:26,633
to compete and you're
1415
00:44:26,633 --> 00:44:27,633
just having fun with it.
1416
00:44:28,166 --> 00:44:28,666
But yeah.
1417
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:30,099
Yeah, yeah.
1418
00:44:30,099 --> 00:44:31,133
He's doing it for fun, of course.
1419
00:44:32,066 --> 00:44:32,266
Yeah.
1420
00:44:33,566 --> 00:44:35,833
But some people would certainly do that
1421
00:44:35,833 --> 00:44:37,500
to actually like have a
1422
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:39,099
real advantage over our
1423
00:44:39,099 --> 00:44:40,400
weekly flesh and body.
1424
00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:42,300
You know, I don't know if
1425
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:43,333
I'm too worried at this point.
1426
00:44:43,366 --> 00:44:44,733
That seems like a lot harder than just
1427
00:44:44,733 --> 00:44:47,199
buying a cheat online
1428
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:49,133
and implementing it.
1429
00:44:51,933 --> 00:44:52,233
Interesting.
1430
00:44:52,933 --> 00:44:53,766
They're like edge cases.
1431
00:44:53,766 --> 00:44:55,433
A lot of the stuff is edge cases and they
1432
00:44:55,433 --> 00:44:56,433
don't concern me as much.
1433
00:44:56,666 --> 00:44:57,133
Like I think the
1434
00:44:57,133 --> 00:44:58,666
research in this is fascinating.
1435
00:44:58,933 --> 00:44:59,866
I like it for research.
1436
00:44:59,866 --> 00:45:02,266
I'm a big proponent of research.
1437
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:07,333
Implications of what
1438
00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,433
this will mean for cheating.
1439
00:45:08,833 --> 00:45:09,233
I don't know.
1440
00:45:09,733 --> 00:45:11,599
I think this will be a framework for
1441
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:13,233
creating more hacks.
1442
00:45:13,466 --> 00:45:14,566
But right now I'm not too concerned.
1443
00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:18,066
I think we're just getting to a point
1444
00:45:18,066 --> 00:45:19,566
where like online games.
1445
00:45:20,033 --> 00:45:22,133
I mean, if this enables cheating, right,
1446
00:45:22,833 --> 00:45:24,366
I just feel like this
1447
00:45:24,366 --> 00:45:25,800
is kind of like end game
1448
00:45:25,966 --> 00:45:27,966
cheating and it's just going to make
1449
00:45:27,966 --> 00:45:30,233
online games unsustainable.
1450
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:33,066
Like because if you're not cheating, then
1451
00:45:33,066 --> 00:45:33,733
you're then you're
1452
00:45:33,733 --> 00:45:34,233
not going to be able to
1453
00:45:34,233 --> 00:45:35,900
even play because
1454
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:36,866
everyone's going to be cheating.
1455
00:45:37,166 --> 00:45:37,366
Right.
1456
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,366
That's the thing that I don't really find
1457
00:45:39,366 --> 00:45:40,466
the pleasure in cheating.
1458
00:45:40,833 --> 00:45:43,033
Like a long time ago, a long time ago,
1459
00:45:43,033 --> 00:45:45,666
back when Citi used to be
1460
00:45:45,666 --> 00:45:46,699
very popular on iPhones,
1461
00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:49,300
basically my brother and I on his phone,
1462
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:50,333
we downloaded a mobile
1463
00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:53,166
game and had in-app purchases.
1464
00:45:53,166 --> 00:45:54,699
You can buy turrets and stuff.
1465
00:45:54,699 --> 00:45:55,599
It was a tower defense game.
1466
00:45:56,666 --> 00:45:59,099
And we hacked it so that we could get
1467
00:45:59,099 --> 00:46:00,533
free in-app purchases.
1468
00:46:01,666 --> 00:46:02,500
So we got all the
1469
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:03,566
strongest shit immediately.
1470
00:46:04,033 --> 00:46:05,733
The stuff you're supposed to pay for.
1471
00:46:06,733 --> 00:46:07,400
You're grind for.
1472
00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:09,466
And then the game was not
1473
00:46:09,466 --> 00:46:10,833
wasn't very fun anymore.
1474
00:46:11,266 --> 00:46:11,966
So I don't understand
1475
00:46:11,966 --> 00:46:13,633
how cheaters brains work.
1476
00:46:15,066 --> 00:46:16,766
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing if it's like
1477
00:46:16,766 --> 00:46:17,866
an online competitive
1478
00:46:17,866 --> 00:46:20,333
game, like I feel like
1479
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:23,333
the people who cheat either want to spoil
1480
00:46:23,333 --> 00:46:25,133
everyone else's time and take pleasure in
1481
00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:25,400
that.
1482
00:46:25,633 --> 00:46:25,833
Yeah.
1483
00:46:26,633 --> 00:46:27,033
I think that's
1484
00:46:27,033 --> 00:46:28,000
probably what it comes from.
1485
00:46:28,333 --> 00:46:30,366
But like, but for me, like there are
1486
00:46:30,366 --> 00:46:31,966
times where I'm, you know,
1487
00:46:31,966 --> 00:46:34,199
I've I want to play spelunky,
1488
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:36,733
but I don't want to like, I want to like
1489
00:46:36,733 --> 00:46:38,966
play a very specific version of spelunky
1490
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,266
where I have the the crazy alien gun and
1491
00:46:43,266 --> 00:46:45,166
the jetpack and then
1492
00:46:45,166 --> 00:46:46,933
I'll turn on like a trainer
1493
00:46:47,133 --> 00:46:48,300
and just play that way,
1494
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:50,333
which is fun in its own way.
1495
00:46:50,766 --> 00:46:51,633
It's super chaotic.
1496
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:55,033
I mean, that I mean, I don't mind.
1497
00:46:55,466 --> 00:46:56,533
I've modded games before
1498
00:46:56,533 --> 00:46:58,533
to like single player mods.
1499
00:46:58,533 --> 00:46:59,800
I don't care about it.
1500
00:46:59,866 --> 00:47:00,066
Yeah.
1501
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:00,966
Single player games.
1502
00:47:00,966 --> 00:47:01,733
I don't really care.
1503
00:47:03,133 --> 00:47:06,266
It's online games, like specifically.
1504
00:47:07,066 --> 00:47:08,300
And I think, Gardner,
1505
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:08,766
I think you're correct.
1506
00:47:09,266 --> 00:47:11,133
So like cheaters are there's two types of
1507
00:47:11,133 --> 00:47:13,033
cheaters, I think one that wants to spoil
1508
00:47:13,033 --> 00:47:13,566
it for everyone.
1509
00:47:13,566 --> 00:47:14,900
They get a they get a kick out of
1510
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:15,833
everyone else's life,
1511
00:47:16,233 --> 00:47:17,466
whether it be they're emotionally
1512
00:47:17,533 --> 00:47:18,199
damaged or whatnot.
1513
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:19,166
And then I think there's also people that
1514
00:47:19,166 --> 00:47:21,066
just like, they have
1515
00:47:21,066 --> 00:47:22,733
to win so bad that they
1516
00:47:22,733 --> 00:47:24,733
trick themselves into like, well, I'm
1517
00:47:24,733 --> 00:47:25,666
sure everyone else is cheating.
1518
00:47:25,666 --> 00:47:26,400
So I'm going to cheat.
1519
00:47:27,033 --> 00:47:27,266
And then there's
1520
00:47:27,266 --> 00:47:28,233
essentially those two types.
1521
00:47:28,666 --> 00:47:29,366
And some and like I've
1522
00:47:29,366 --> 00:47:30,800
read some like cheater forums.
1523
00:47:31,333 --> 00:47:33,233
And some believe some cheaters believe
1524
00:47:33,233 --> 00:47:34,066
that no one would play
1525
00:47:34,066 --> 00:47:35,199
the a no one will play the
1526
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:38,699
game without them or be oh, I feel myself
1527
00:47:38,699 --> 00:47:40,666
improving as I use this cheat.
1528
00:47:41,833 --> 00:47:43,033
Yeah, no, it's like
1529
00:47:43,033 --> 00:47:45,166
some level of delusion.
1530
00:47:46,699 --> 00:47:49,400
Honestly, I think if we had
1531
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,433
a I just sounds really off.
1532
00:47:51,433 --> 00:47:55,066
But if you had a hot take right now, if
1533
00:47:55,066 --> 00:47:56,366
you had a healthier
1534
00:47:56,366 --> 00:47:57,666
government and we tracked
1535
00:47:57,833 --> 00:47:58,699
these cheaters, I think
1536
00:47:58,699 --> 00:48:01,766
we'd get them mental health.
1537
00:48:02,766 --> 00:48:04,366
I think they would almost have been like
1538
00:48:04,366 --> 00:48:07,733
mandatory like, hey, we
1539
00:48:07,733 --> 00:48:09,933
can't trust you with a gun or
1540
00:48:09,933 --> 00:48:11,533
anything or anything else in life.
1541
00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:13,633
I tell you get some mental health because
1542
00:48:13,633 --> 00:48:16,833
that's some delusional shit right there.
1543
00:48:16,833 --> 00:48:18,933
Like you're you're delusional.
1544
00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:20,866
And so you need help.
1545
00:48:21,966 --> 00:48:22,300
Jensen Wong.
1546
00:48:24,266 --> 00:48:27,766
He probably needs that therapy to make
1547
00:48:27,766 --> 00:48:28,666
him not a narcissist.
1548
00:48:28,666 --> 00:48:29,966
I'm sure I think Jensen Wong
1549
00:48:29,966 --> 00:48:31,366
just needs some fried chicken.
1550
00:48:34,133 --> 00:48:38,533
You know, all live stream if Jensen Wong
1551
00:48:38,533 --> 00:48:39,366
wants to come here and
1552
00:48:39,366 --> 00:48:41,199
we go to Kanban together.
1553
00:48:42,233 --> 00:48:42,433
Banchan?
1554
00:48:43,099 --> 00:48:43,866
Banchan Kanban.
1555
00:48:44,266 --> 00:48:45,633
That's a that's a completely different
1556
00:48:45,633 --> 00:48:47,199
thing I'm not gonna get to the banchan.
1557
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,033
Yeah, I'll live stream that.
1558
00:48:51,866 --> 00:48:53,266
Do you get some good fried chicken?
1559
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:53,866
Hell yeah.
1560
00:48:53,866 --> 00:48:54,633
I mean, there's better.
1561
00:48:54,633 --> 00:48:55,833
There's better than banchan.
1562
00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:57,633
But yeah, yeah.
1563
00:48:57,633 --> 00:49:01,099
But what if we what if we name our
1564
00:49:01,099 --> 00:49:03,900
company, you know, Korean
1565
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:05,166
Fried Chicken Incorporated,
1566
00:49:05,566 --> 00:49:08,066
and then we deep fake ourselves having
1567
00:49:08,066 --> 00:49:11,633
banchan or Korean Fried Chicken
1568
00:49:11,633 --> 00:49:12,666
Incorporated chicken
1569
00:49:13,066 --> 00:49:14,166
with what's his name?
1570
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:15,233
Jensen Wong.
1571
00:49:15,666 --> 00:49:16,066
Jensen Wong.
1572
00:49:16,266 --> 00:49:16,766
And then we could
1573
00:49:16,766 --> 00:49:18,966
artificially pump up our stock prices.
1574
00:49:19,466 --> 00:49:21,900
And he's proven that it's OK to do that.
1575
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,366
So let's do it.
1576
00:49:23,366 --> 00:49:26,466
It's how you make our buck, you know, Mr.
1577
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:28,099
Adam Jepson Wong himself.
1578
00:49:29,166 --> 00:49:30,066
I wonder if it work.
1579
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:32,000
Yeah, I don't know.
1580
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,866
We did we we predicted what 2026 is going
1581
00:49:34,866 --> 00:49:37,633
to be like in our bonus show.
1582
00:49:37,833 --> 00:49:39,033
And that's I'm changing
1583
00:49:39,033 --> 00:49:40,266
my prediction to that now.
1584
00:49:40,666 --> 00:49:41,699
That's that's how we win.
1585
00:49:41,966 --> 00:49:43,800
That's how we make our bag.
1586
00:49:44,266 --> 00:49:48,800
I don't want to incorporate or no, no,
1587
00:49:48,866 --> 00:49:49,333
incorporating is fine.
1588
00:49:49,366 --> 00:49:51,466
I don't want to go public.
1589
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:54,066
We'll just say we went
1590
00:49:54,066 --> 00:49:55,933
public and then don't.
1591
00:49:56,466 --> 00:49:56,633
We.
1592
00:49:56,633 --> 00:49:59,233
Yeah, we say we went public to pump up
1593
00:49:59,233 --> 00:50:01,300
our artificial public
1594
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:05,133
price and nothing makes sense
1595
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:06,133
anymore so that we can do that.
1596
00:50:06,133 --> 00:50:06,566
None of this is going to
1597
00:50:06,566 --> 00:50:07,666
work unless we do a crypto.
1598
00:50:07,666 --> 00:50:08,133
We're going to have to do
1599
00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:09,066
an off the console crypto.
1600
00:50:09,066 --> 00:50:09,699
Oh, right.
1601
00:50:09,699 --> 00:50:10,033
Yes.
1602
00:50:10,033 --> 00:50:10,233
OK.
1603
00:50:10,433 --> 00:50:12,933
We do a crypto, a publicly traded crypto.
1604
00:50:13,166 --> 00:50:13,699
Yeah.
1605
00:50:14,166 --> 00:50:14,466
OK.
1606
00:50:14,466 --> 00:50:15,266
It's all coming together.
1607
00:50:15,766 --> 00:50:15,966
OK.
1608
00:50:16,366 --> 00:50:16,566
Yeah.
1609
00:50:16,766 --> 00:50:17,966
I like this idea now.
1610
00:50:19,166 --> 00:50:19,366
I think it's not going
1611
00:50:19,366 --> 00:50:20,300
to take a lot of work.
1612
00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:21,133
Right.
1613
00:50:21,366 --> 00:50:22,533
Becoming publicly traded
1614
00:50:22,533 --> 00:50:24,733
is very difficult, guys.
1615
00:50:25,033 --> 00:50:26,766
So, uh, yeah.
1616
00:50:27,833 --> 00:50:29,333
Uh, you know, those are difficult.
1617
00:50:31,066 --> 00:50:32,099
Killing the Xbox brand.
1618
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:32,866
That's difficult.
1619
00:50:33,433 --> 00:50:34,166
Not for Microsoft.
1620
00:50:34,666 --> 00:50:35,166
It's easy.
1621
00:50:35,666 --> 00:50:36,866
They're they're on easy mode.
1622
00:50:39,433 --> 00:50:42,033
When you're a man, when you're a company
1623
00:50:42,033 --> 00:50:43,166
as big as Microsoft,
1624
00:50:43,566 --> 00:50:44,433
doing stuff like this
1625
00:50:44,433 --> 00:50:45,800
is as easy as it gets.
1626
00:50:46,333 --> 00:50:47,033
Yeah.
1627
00:50:49,033 --> 00:50:53,233
So, here's my question, though.
1628
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:55,733
What happens when Microsoft dies?
1629
00:50:56,066 --> 00:50:59,133
Because when Sega, not Microsoft, because
1630
00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:00,666
remember, when Sega
1631
00:51:00,666 --> 00:51:02,766
exited the market, Microsoft
1632
00:51:02,766 --> 00:51:04,433
was just there getting ready.
1633
00:51:06,633 --> 00:51:06,833
Technically that
1634
00:51:06,833 --> 00:51:08,466
generation had four consoles.
1635
00:51:10,533 --> 00:51:12,166
Who's going to take Xbox's place?
1636
00:51:12,166 --> 00:51:13,166
Because I don't think we
1637
00:51:13,166 --> 00:51:15,466
really have a real competitor.
1638
00:51:16,366 --> 00:51:16,733
Steam machine.
1639
00:51:16,966 --> 00:51:17,199
That helped.
1640
00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:17,733
Yeah.
1641
00:51:18,766 --> 00:51:19,766
Oh, dude.
1642
00:51:20,933 --> 00:51:23,533
I, I honestly, I don't
1643
00:51:23,533 --> 00:51:25,266
believe in the Xbox is dead thing.
1644
00:51:25,266 --> 00:51:26,433
I think they're morphing into something
1645
00:51:26,433 --> 00:51:27,266
else that I think is
1646
00:51:27,266 --> 00:51:28,566
like they're going to get
1647
00:51:28,566 --> 00:51:29,333
a new market.
1648
00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:30,933
They're going to get new people to join.
1649
00:51:31,433 --> 00:51:32,466
I think they're going to lose a lot of
1650
00:51:32,466 --> 00:51:33,733
the older gamers, but I
1651
00:51:33,733 --> 00:51:34,733
think they're fine with
1652
00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:34,966
that.
1653
00:51:34,966 --> 00:51:35,966
I think they're just all
1654
00:51:35,966 --> 00:51:38,733
about these like weird plays.
1655
00:51:40,133 --> 00:51:42,633
I don't think Xbox is, in my opinion, I
1656
00:51:42,633 --> 00:51:43,433
don't, I think I'm
1657
00:51:43,433 --> 00:51:44,333
convinced now that they're not
1658
00:51:44,366 --> 00:51:44,633
dying.
1659
00:51:45,366 --> 00:51:47,666
That pivot is killing the market for what
1660
00:51:47,666 --> 00:51:50,199
a lot of people want an Xbox for.
1661
00:51:50,433 --> 00:51:53,166
So what if their market was to kill the
1662
00:51:53,166 --> 00:51:54,366
console market altogether?
1663
00:51:56,733 --> 00:51:58,966
They I think their pivot is they don't
1664
00:51:58,966 --> 00:52:00,300
see the console market
1665
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:02,033
lasting past 10 more years.
1666
00:52:03,133 --> 00:52:04,766
I think the next generation is going to
1667
00:52:04,766 --> 00:52:05,366
be the last generation
1668
00:52:05,366 --> 00:52:06,233
is what they're thinking.
1669
00:52:06,233 --> 00:52:08,133
That's why they're jumping ship.
1670
00:52:08,433 --> 00:52:09,500
Personally, that's what I think.
1671
00:52:11,266 --> 00:52:12,533
What would happen to Nintendo though?
1672
00:52:12,533 --> 00:52:16,533
Because Nintendo is almost all video
1673
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:18,266
games, more specific consoles.
1674
00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:20,199
Whereas Sony, even Sony's released games
1675
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:23,133
on PC now and Sony's a
1676
00:52:23,133 --> 00:52:24,166
multi-billion dollar company
1677
00:52:24,166 --> 00:52:24,966
that does more than
1678
00:52:24,966 --> 00:52:25,933
video games, of course.
1679
00:52:27,033 --> 00:52:27,400
But Nintendo?
1680
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:30,766
I think Nintendo's almost
1681
00:52:30,766 --> 00:52:32,133
failed multiple times in the past.
1682
00:52:32,433 --> 00:52:34,266
So I think they're full of themselves.
1683
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:35,866
I think they could still
1684
00:52:35,866 --> 00:52:37,300
potentially fail at this point.
1685
00:52:39,066 --> 00:52:40,966
The Switch 2 was, I was worried that the
1686
00:52:40,966 --> 00:52:41,566
Switch 2 was going to be
1687
00:52:41,566 --> 00:52:43,133
sold out this holidays.
1688
00:52:43,333 --> 00:52:43,833
It's not.
1689
00:52:44,066 --> 00:52:44,966
A lot of places still
1690
00:52:44,966 --> 00:52:45,933
have plenty of Switch 2's.
1691
00:52:46,166 --> 00:52:50,433
So I don't know if Nintendo is going to
1692
00:52:50,433 --> 00:52:52,433
do as well with Switch 2 as the Switch 1.
1693
00:52:53,366 --> 00:52:54,433
Heck, I even think the
1694
00:52:54,433 --> 00:52:55,866
PS5 outsold the Switch 2.
1695
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:01,466
Switch 2 did really well numbers.
1696
00:53:01,466 --> 00:53:02,633
It did much better than the Steam Deck.
1697
00:53:03,066 --> 00:53:05,333
You know, even at this point, it sold
1698
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:05,966
more than what the Steam
1699
00:53:05,966 --> 00:53:07,333
Deck sold all its life.
1700
00:53:07,699 --> 00:53:13,266
But, you know, they plan to sell a lot.
1701
00:53:13,266 --> 00:53:15,033
And if they don't sell enough and with
1702
00:53:15,033 --> 00:53:16,966
how much more stock
1703
00:53:16,966 --> 00:53:19,433
that they have, then they
1704
00:53:19,433 --> 00:53:20,133
could hurt a lot of stuff.
1705
00:53:20,866 --> 00:53:21,933
So we'll see.
1706
00:53:22,133 --> 00:53:23,400
10 years from now, we'll see if
1707
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,666
Nintendo's still going to
1708
00:53:24,666 --> 00:53:26,733
be able to be in the purely
1709
00:53:26,733 --> 00:53:29,466
console industry or if they're going to
1710
00:53:29,466 --> 00:53:30,266
have to start releasing
1711
00:53:30,266 --> 00:53:33,366
games for PC or other platforms.
1712
00:53:34,266 --> 00:53:35,166
A little time will only tell.
1713
00:53:36,033 --> 00:53:37,133
I think they're pretty stubborn.
1714
00:53:37,366 --> 00:53:38,033
So I think they would
1715
00:53:38,033 --> 00:53:40,166
almost just die at this point.
1716
00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:41,866
They'd go back to making
1717
00:53:41,866 --> 00:53:43,966
what are those Hanafuda cards?
1718
00:53:45,033 --> 00:53:45,466
Yeah.
1719
00:53:46,066 --> 00:53:46,266
Yeah.
1720
00:53:46,933 --> 00:53:48,166
I think they'd go back to
1721
00:53:48,166 --> 00:53:50,433
doing just toys or something.
1722
00:53:50,933 --> 00:53:54,066
But no, they're not like a cockroach like
1723
00:53:54,066 --> 00:53:54,866
Xbox where they're
1724
00:53:54,866 --> 00:53:55,633
going to survive no matter
1725
00:53:55,633 --> 00:53:55,966
what.
1726
00:53:57,966 --> 00:54:00,800
Yeah, I feel like, dude, OK, so if
1727
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,300
Microsoft just exits the
1728
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:04,866
console market, what if Sega
1729
00:54:04,933 --> 00:54:07,733
came back and made a
1730
00:54:07,733 --> 00:54:09,766
Sega branded steam machine?
1731
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,766
A Sega branded steam machine?
1732
00:54:13,266 --> 00:54:13,466
Yeah.
1733
00:54:13,966 --> 00:54:15,466
The Dreamcast 2?
1734
00:54:16,366 --> 00:54:16,800
Ooh.
1735
00:54:17,366 --> 00:54:21,099
I think the part of Sega that the people
1736
00:54:21,099 --> 00:54:22,466
that made the Dreamcast
1737
00:54:22,466 --> 00:54:24,699
were bought or essentially
1738
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,666
hired by Xbox.
1739
00:54:26,266 --> 00:54:26,466
Right.
1740
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,000
So were they?
1741
00:54:28,666 --> 00:54:29,400
I think so.
1742
00:54:29,866 --> 00:54:31,300
I could be wrong about that, but I swear
1743
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:32,233
I resummed it on a lot
1744
00:54:32,233 --> 00:54:33,233
too long ago that like
1745
00:54:33,666 --> 00:54:35,366
a lot of the people that made the
1746
00:54:35,366 --> 00:54:36,233
Dreamcast went over to
1747
00:54:36,233 --> 00:54:37,400
Xbox and made the Xbox.
1748
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:40,166
I could be wrong, though.
1749
00:54:40,833 --> 00:54:42,000
I wonder where they are now, though.
1750
00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:43,566
Are they going to go back to Sega now
1751
00:54:43,566 --> 00:54:44,766
that they're probably
1752
00:54:44,766 --> 00:54:46,966
retired or, you know, yeah,
1753
00:54:47,366 --> 00:54:48,333
a hundred years old and
1754
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:49,033
then a retirement home.
1755
00:54:49,033 --> 00:54:49,599
I'm just kidding.
1756
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:53,233
But the Dreamcast came out in 1999.
1757
00:54:54,033 --> 00:54:55,733
Like, yeah.
1758
00:54:57,866 --> 00:54:59,000
The Sega, I think Sega
1759
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,033
making hardware is over, guys.
1760
00:55:01,266 --> 00:55:01,633
I'm sorry.
1761
00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:05,566
You got to boo boo every
1762
00:55:05,566 --> 00:55:07,199
good idea that I ever have.
1763
00:55:07,466 --> 00:55:08,233
I'm sorry.
1764
00:55:08,233 --> 00:55:10,099
It would be really it would be cool for
1765
00:55:10,099 --> 00:55:12,000
them to do a Sega branded
1766
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,766
X-Box or a steam machine.
1767
00:55:14,666 --> 00:55:15,233
Streamcast.
1768
00:55:16,066 --> 00:55:16,666
The Streamcast.
1769
00:55:18,466 --> 00:55:19,233
It's all about streaming.
1770
00:55:19,933 --> 00:55:20,133
Yeah.
1771
00:55:22,566 --> 00:55:23,466
That would be the
1772
00:55:23,466 --> 00:55:25,199
Steamcast, not the Streamcast.
1773
00:55:25,566 --> 00:55:25,866
Steamcast.
1774
00:55:26,833 --> 00:55:27,033
Okay.
1775
00:55:27,666 --> 00:55:28,433
Steamcast.
1776
00:55:28,933 --> 00:55:29,133
Yeah.
1777
00:55:30,233 --> 00:55:30,500
I don't know.
1778
00:55:30,733 --> 00:55:32,666
I think that would be cool.
1779
00:55:32,866 --> 00:55:35,233
But, you know, if it comes down to it, I
1780
00:55:35,233 --> 00:55:37,466
just want first party hardware.
1781
00:55:37,466 --> 00:55:38,133
I don't really care.
1782
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,866
Sega made a steam machine.
1783
00:55:44,366 --> 00:55:46,199
If Sega made it, yeah, I agree.
1784
00:55:46,433 --> 00:55:47,099
Like at the end of the
1785
00:55:47,099 --> 00:55:48,133
day, that was the thing.
1786
00:55:48,133 --> 00:55:49,366
I think that's why I'm like, I don't know
1787
00:55:49,366 --> 00:55:50,466
if I care about Xbox,
1788
00:55:50,766 --> 00:55:51,933
like Xbox and Microsoft's
1789
00:55:51,933 --> 00:55:52,566
play so much.
1790
00:55:52,566 --> 00:55:54,866
Like, I think they have so many studios,
1791
00:55:54,866 --> 00:55:56,066
so much IP if they I
1792
00:55:56,066 --> 00:55:56,800
mean, if they can actually
1793
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,199
start making sure that more and more
1794
00:55:58,199 --> 00:55:59,033
stuff comes out, which I
1795
00:55:59,033 --> 00:56:00,066
think they I think this
1796
00:56:00,099 --> 00:56:02,699
last year was a fairly good year for
1797
00:56:02,699 --> 00:56:03,500
them, even though I know
1798
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:04,766
I've read so many mixed
1799
00:56:04,766 --> 00:56:05,533
articles on this.
1800
00:56:05,533 --> 00:56:06,466
Like some people, like it's the worst
1801
00:56:06,466 --> 00:56:07,533
year they've had others
1802
00:56:07,533 --> 00:56:08,833
like, no, like they've
1803
00:56:09,266 --> 00:56:10,933
sold more or they've had more people play
1804
00:56:10,933 --> 00:56:12,033
games than they've ever had.
1805
00:56:12,333 --> 00:56:14,366
It's I'm fatigued at
1806
00:56:14,366 --> 00:56:15,466
this point on this battle.
1807
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,966
I think they're going to do just fine.
1808
00:56:19,133 --> 00:56:19,800
I don't think they're
1809
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,900
going to die anytime soon.
1810
00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:22,066
I think they have too much IP.
1811
00:56:22,066 --> 00:56:24,333
I think they've set themselves up.
1812
00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:26,833
But I do think the Xbox brand as it is,
1813
00:56:26,833 --> 00:56:29,066
is pretty much dead.
1814
00:56:29,366 --> 00:56:30,266
It's not a console anymore.
1815
00:56:31,300 --> 00:56:33,433
So is Xbox dead?
1816
00:56:34,866 --> 00:56:36,966
No, Xbox as a brand is not dead.
1817
00:56:37,166 --> 00:56:39,333
Xbox as a as a console is dead.
1818
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:40,766
I think just like I
1819
00:56:40,766 --> 00:56:43,633
would put it that way.
1820
00:56:44,933 --> 00:56:45,633
I don't know.
1821
00:56:45,633 --> 00:56:47,333
I feel like they can
1822
00:56:47,333 --> 00:56:48,533
have all the IP they want.
1823
00:56:48,533 --> 00:56:50,500
They're not making games like they have.
1824
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:52,333
They've canceled more games about making
1825
00:56:52,333 --> 00:56:53,266
the games that are
1826
00:56:53,266 --> 00:56:55,366
literally making a Halo remake.
1827
00:56:56,166 --> 00:56:58,199
They've made more games than any other
1828
00:56:58,199 --> 00:56:59,266
company, I think in
1829
00:56:59,266 --> 00:57:01,066
twenty twenty six or five.
1830
00:57:01,066 --> 00:57:02,099
I mean, yeah, but like, I
1831
00:57:02,099 --> 00:57:03,533
mean, Indiana Jones, right.
1832
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,500
They made the Dark Ages.
1833
00:57:06,066 --> 00:57:06,566
Oh, was it?
1834
00:57:07,133 --> 00:57:07,333
Yeah.
1835
00:57:07,566 --> 00:57:08,566
But I mean, doing the
1836
00:57:08,566 --> 00:57:10,366
Dark Ages was not good.
1837
00:57:10,733 --> 00:57:11,900
Like it was very.
1838
00:57:13,166 --> 00:57:13,866
That's a hot take.
1839
00:57:14,833 --> 00:57:15,933
It's a little bit.
1840
00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:17,233
It's definitely divisive.
1841
00:57:17,233 --> 00:57:17,800
I liked it.
1842
00:57:17,966 --> 00:57:19,033
I ended up beating it.
1843
00:57:19,033 --> 00:57:21,166
I ended up liking it, but it was not as
1844
00:57:21,166 --> 00:57:22,800
good as Doom Eternal.
1845
00:57:23,633 --> 00:57:24,633
No, I don't know.
1846
00:57:25,466 --> 00:57:26,099
And they cancel.
1847
00:57:26,099 --> 00:57:26,866
They've canceled a
1848
00:57:26,866 --> 00:57:28,866
shitload of games, too.
1849
00:57:29,066 --> 00:57:30,466
Like I just don't know, man.
1850
00:57:30,699 --> 00:57:31,633
I just don't see it.
1851
00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:33,900
I think Microsoft's incapable of doing
1852
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:34,766
good things anymore.
1853
00:57:37,866 --> 00:57:38,066
Windows.
1854
00:57:38,066 --> 00:57:38,966
I mean, on the way.
1855
00:57:39,133 --> 00:57:41,199
So studios, people are starting to have
1856
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:44,433
more and more windows for the best.
1857
00:57:45,533 --> 00:57:47,333
Small fiction is an EA game, isn't it?
1858
00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:47,733
It's not.
1859
00:57:47,733 --> 00:57:48,733
Yes, EA and Xbox.
1860
00:57:49,433 --> 00:57:49,633
Yeah.
1861
00:57:50,566 --> 00:57:52,366
Then this article is like broken.
1862
00:57:52,766 --> 00:57:55,133
This must be just Xbox or games that are
1863
00:57:55,133 --> 00:57:57,033
on the Xbox Game Pass because.
1864
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:58,933
Well, you look at.
1865
00:58:00,466 --> 00:58:01,533
I'm not showing it right
1866
00:58:01,533 --> 00:58:02,533
now because I don't trust it.
1867
00:58:02,533 --> 00:58:03,333
It's from games.
1868
00:58:05,433 --> 00:58:06,733
OK, sorry, I'm trying to look up games
1869
00:58:06,733 --> 00:58:07,666
that came out this year.
1870
00:58:09,099 --> 00:58:09,933
That were Xbox.
1871
00:58:09,933 --> 00:58:11,766
And I'm yeah, I guess if you anything
1872
00:58:11,766 --> 00:58:12,733
that's on Game Pass, if
1873
00:58:12,733 --> 00:58:13,266
you want to put that, but
1874
00:58:13,666 --> 00:58:14,266
that's not true.
1875
00:58:14,266 --> 00:58:15,833
Like Expedition 33 is not.
1876
00:58:17,133 --> 00:58:18,066
An Xbox studio.
1877
00:58:19,766 --> 00:58:20,099
It's.
1878
00:58:20,466 --> 00:58:22,766
It's I found the same article you're
1879
00:58:22,766 --> 00:58:25,099
looking at the game spot one.
1880
00:58:25,099 --> 00:58:25,833
Yes, garbage.
1881
00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:27,800
Games, but if you want
1882
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,733
to put it up garbage.
1883
00:58:29,433 --> 00:58:32,800
Yeah, if you want to put it like in those
1884
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,433
types of like they had
1885
00:58:34,433 --> 00:58:35,199
some of the best games
1886
00:58:35,333 --> 00:58:38,233
on their game pass, that being said,
1887
00:58:38,966 --> 00:58:41,966
studio wise, yeah, we'd have to go.
1888
00:58:41,966 --> 00:58:43,300
I'd have to dig down and see what
1889
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:44,233
actually they released,
1890
00:58:44,233 --> 00:58:45,766
like a vowed didn't do well.
1891
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,133
Yeah, we could do that.
1892
00:58:49,166 --> 00:58:50,699
Maybe some other time in a bonus episode.
1893
00:58:51,433 --> 00:58:53,800
I think it'd take too much time here, but
1894
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,933
we are taking a lot of time to be honest.
1895
00:58:57,333 --> 00:59:00,633
I think Xbox is going to be fine, but I
1896
00:59:00,633 --> 00:59:01,400
think the next few years
1897
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,333
are going to be the tell
1898
00:59:02,333 --> 00:59:02,933
for it.
1899
00:59:03,266 --> 00:59:05,066
So I could definitely be wrong on that.
1900
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:06,766
Well, I'm more curious
1901
00:59:06,766 --> 00:59:09,900
about our our good friend EA.
1902
00:59:11,266 --> 00:59:12,066
Owners of Dead Space
1903
00:59:12,066 --> 00:59:13,066
and Command and Conquer.
1904
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Hmm.
1905
00:59:16,733 --> 00:59:18,233
Yeah, and your co-host.
1906
00:59:18,566 --> 00:59:18,766
No.
1907
00:59:20,566 --> 00:59:21,033
What's that?
1908
00:59:21,633 --> 00:59:22,466
I said, hi, tech, you
1909
00:59:22,466 --> 00:59:24,633
know your your co-hosts well.
1910
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:25,966
Yes.
1911
00:59:27,266 --> 00:59:30,166
So 99 percent of all EA shareholders
1912
00:59:30,166 --> 00:59:33,166
voted in favor of the
1913
00:59:33,166 --> 00:59:34,533
Saudi Arabian buyout.
1914
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,266
Fifty five billion dollars.
1915
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:40,733
I think we're cooked on that one.
1916
00:59:40,733 --> 00:59:44,466
I think 99 is pretty high.
1917
00:59:44,466 --> 00:59:46,066
I'd expect much more
1918
00:59:46,066 --> 00:59:48,666
like maybe 80 percent.
1919
00:59:48,666 --> 00:59:49,833
I expected some resistance.
1920
00:59:50,133 --> 00:59:50,333
Yeah.
1921
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,866
But almost none, almost none, literally.
1922
00:59:56,099 --> 00:59:58,533
But it's got all their stock.
1923
00:59:58,533 --> 00:59:59,199
I should have bought stock.
1924
00:59:59,666 --> 01:00:01,133
No, I should have bought
1925
01:00:01,133 --> 01:00:02,633
stock earlier this year.
1926
01:00:03,099 --> 01:00:05,233
No, any A, but no, it's going to bump
1927
01:00:05,233 --> 01:00:06,666
their stock up by 25 percent.
1928
01:00:06,666 --> 01:00:08,433
So I see why.
1929
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:11,666
But I was expecting like
1930
01:00:11,666 --> 01:00:13,933
some of these guys to be.
1931
01:00:14,066 --> 01:00:15,133
Well, it's Saudi led, so
1932
01:00:15,133 --> 01:00:17,333
maybe I won't like it can't be.
1933
01:00:18,133 --> 01:00:20,366
Yeah, the whole thing was
1934
01:00:20,366 --> 01:00:21,233
that they were going private.
1935
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:23,266
Yeah.
1936
01:00:23,266 --> 01:00:24,000
Oh, that's true.
1937
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,066
So they get bought out.
1938
01:00:25,066 --> 01:00:26,166
Yeah, buyout with 25
1939
01:00:26,166 --> 01:00:27,433
percent is really good, guys.
1940
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,533
Like they're just going to.
1941
01:00:30,533 --> 01:00:32,666
Yeah, their stock is getting bought out.
1942
01:00:32,866 --> 01:00:33,566
Yeah, I forgot.
1943
01:00:33,566 --> 01:00:34,866
Yeah, that they're going private.
1944
01:00:35,366 --> 01:00:35,566
Yeah.
1945
01:00:37,166 --> 01:00:37,366
Damn.
1946
01:00:38,366 --> 01:00:38,833
I mean, interesting.
1947
01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:42,166
I mean, on the actual on the actual
1948
01:00:42,166 --> 01:00:43,166
gaming side of things,
1949
01:00:43,166 --> 01:00:45,133
there's nothing newsworthy.
1950
01:00:45,133 --> 01:00:46,033
But on the business side
1951
01:00:46,033 --> 01:00:47,066
of things, it's a huge deal.
1952
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,400
I mean, for sure.
1953
01:00:49,033 --> 01:00:49,566
They're going to be.
1954
01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:50,833
This will affect the games.
1955
01:00:51,066 --> 01:00:52,133
It will affect the games.
1956
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,366
It hasn't just yet.
1957
01:00:54,066 --> 01:00:55,233
That's what next year is going to be for.
1958
01:00:56,333 --> 01:00:56,800
We probably should have
1959
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,933
made a prediction about EA.
1960
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:03,633
Will bring back dead space
1961
01:01:03,633 --> 01:01:05,166
and or command and conquer.
1962
01:01:07,733 --> 01:01:09,333
That is such an interesting thing because
1963
01:01:09,333 --> 01:01:10,833
being publicly owned, I
1964
01:01:10,833 --> 01:01:11,733
don't think they would
1965
01:01:11,733 --> 01:01:13,566
have been privately owned.
1966
01:01:14,066 --> 01:01:16,400
And depending on if the Saudi prince
1967
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,633
likes dead space or
1968
01:01:17,633 --> 01:01:18,966
command and conquer, it could
1969
01:01:18,966 --> 01:01:19,666
bring it back.
1970
01:01:20,066 --> 01:01:21,900
There's when you get privately owned, you
1971
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,533
can have a lot more stakeholders that are
1972
01:01:24,533 --> 01:01:27,933
that want something that's not fully
1973
01:01:27,933 --> 01:01:29,966
based off of price or profit.
1974
01:01:30,833 --> 01:01:34,699
So well, I mean, a game like CNC is
1975
01:01:34,699 --> 01:01:37,266
uniquely poised to be
1976
01:01:37,266 --> 01:01:37,533
something that's not fully based
1977
01:01:37,566 --> 01:01:39,833
some kind of like
1978
01:01:39,833 --> 01:01:41,866
propaganda to some degree.
1979
01:01:42,266 --> 01:01:42,466
Right.
1980
01:01:42,866 --> 01:01:45,433
I mean, command and conquer, if you set
1981
01:01:45,433 --> 01:01:48,333
it in the red alert or
1982
01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:50,466
even the general's universe.
1983
01:01:50,733 --> 01:01:51,033
Right.
1984
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,666
Like, yeah, you could then make Saudi
1985
01:01:53,666 --> 01:01:55,133
Arabia look really nice.
1986
01:01:55,133 --> 01:01:55,766
You know, they could be
1987
01:01:55,766 --> 01:01:56,900
part of the good guys.
1988
01:01:56,900 --> 01:01:59,366
You know, like there's a lot that that
1989
01:01:59,366 --> 01:02:00,533
they could use that for.
1990
01:02:01,933 --> 01:02:03,266
They might see value in that.
1991
01:02:03,866 --> 01:02:07,766
And if they make a good CNC game and it's
1992
01:02:07,766 --> 01:02:10,133
also like just even just
1993
01:02:10,133 --> 01:02:11,066
a little bit propaganda.
1994
01:02:12,666 --> 01:02:15,366
You know, that has the potential to make
1995
01:02:15,366 --> 01:02:17,466
money and whitewash their
1996
01:02:17,466 --> 01:02:19,633
or sports wash or whatever
1997
01:02:19,633 --> 01:02:21,033
the equivalent would be with games.
1998
01:02:22,900 --> 01:02:23,566
Well, it could be worse.
1999
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:26,266
We could live in a world where North
2000
01:02:26,266 --> 01:02:27,733
Korea bought EA instead.
2001
01:02:30,266 --> 01:02:32,533
I mean, North Korea doesn't have any type
2002
01:02:32,533 --> 01:02:33,433
of funds to do that.
2003
01:02:34,633 --> 01:02:37,233
No, but they have the nukes and the
2004
01:02:37,233 --> 01:02:38,199
ability to kidnap people.
2005
01:02:39,566 --> 01:02:40,033
Not really.
2006
01:02:40,866 --> 01:02:41,733
They kind of do.
2007
01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:42,533
Kind of.
2008
01:02:42,533 --> 01:02:44,666
I'm not I'm not that worried about North
2009
01:02:44,666 --> 01:02:46,933
Korea, but I just
2010
01:02:46,933 --> 01:02:47,599
thought it'd be interesting.
2011
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:49,766
But sorry.
2012
01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:50,099
No, sorry.
2013
01:02:50,566 --> 01:02:50,766
Sorry.
2014
01:02:51,966 --> 01:02:52,566
I don't know.
2015
01:02:53,066 --> 01:02:56,433
It's it's kind of a crazy thing for a
2016
01:02:56,433 --> 01:02:58,500
whole country to own a
2017
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:00,166
company as a gaming company.
2018
01:03:00,233 --> 01:03:01,466
A company as big as EA.
2019
01:03:02,233 --> 01:03:02,766
Yeah.
2020
01:03:03,466 --> 01:03:04,466
Like, I don't think we've ever seen
2021
01:03:04,466 --> 01:03:05,400
anything like this before, right?
2022
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,766
I mean, I guess you could say Tencent
2023
01:03:08,766 --> 01:03:09,766
works with the Chinese
2024
01:03:09,766 --> 01:03:11,833
government to a degree.
2025
01:03:13,099 --> 01:03:14,400
Yeah, they're not fully they're not
2026
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,233
really owned, but they
2027
01:03:15,233 --> 01:03:16,400
have to adhere to a lot of
2028
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,699
the laws and stuff like that.
2029
01:03:18,099 --> 01:03:18,566
Yeah, yeah.
2030
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:20,033
It is different.
2031
01:03:20,033 --> 01:03:22,333
This is you can think of it as a company
2032
01:03:22,333 --> 01:03:23,300
having a start the stock
2033
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:25,266
portfolio or like a private
2034
01:03:25,366 --> 01:03:26,933
investment firm having.
2035
01:03:28,466 --> 01:03:30,633
And like this is for the country.
2036
01:03:30,633 --> 01:03:31,633
It's not like the
2037
01:03:31,633 --> 01:03:33,633
individuals of the country benefit.
2038
01:03:33,966 --> 01:03:37,933
This is a fund that they have to help
2039
01:03:37,933 --> 01:03:39,066
grow the country itself
2040
01:03:39,066 --> 01:03:40,800
diversify and then also
2041
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,199
promote the country in
2042
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:43,666
some way or form or fashion.
2043
01:03:44,466 --> 01:03:46,133
They know oil is not
2044
01:03:46,133 --> 01:03:47,333
going to last forever.
2045
01:03:47,666 --> 01:03:48,833
And they're actually doing something
2046
01:03:48,833 --> 01:03:49,866
about it, which is smart.
2047
01:03:50,599 --> 01:03:51,733
Unfortunately, some of our other
2048
01:03:51,733 --> 01:03:53,366
countries, like the one I
2049
01:03:53,366 --> 01:03:55,033
might live in, doesn't really
2050
01:03:55,099 --> 01:03:56,800
understand that oil is not going to last
2051
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,400
forever and you have to diversify.
2052
01:04:00,066 --> 01:04:02,566
Even though the oil companies do
2053
01:04:02,566 --> 01:04:03,933
diversify too, but yeah.
2054
01:04:06,666 --> 01:04:07,066
Yeah.
2055
01:04:07,166 --> 01:04:11,699
So I don't know if it's going to change a
2056
01:04:11,699 --> 01:04:13,466
whole lot for the next few years.
2057
01:04:13,466 --> 01:04:16,400
I bet you they function just the same.
2058
01:04:17,833 --> 01:04:20,366
Maybe they'll try, maybe they'll be
2059
01:04:20,366 --> 01:04:23,333
convinced to sell some of their IP.
2060
01:04:23,366 --> 01:04:26,000
I'm hoping the Dead Space IP gets sold to
2061
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,166
a smaller studio or
2062
01:04:28,166 --> 01:04:29,433
publisher that wants to
2063
01:04:29,433 --> 01:04:30,400
make more Dead Space
2064
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,566
because it would make money.
2065
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,199
If they could sell it at a reasonable
2066
01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:39,133
cost, like, hey, I don't
2067
01:04:39,133 --> 01:04:40,633
know, $10 million, sell
2068
01:04:40,633 --> 01:04:42,533
it off and then the next company that
2069
01:04:42,533 --> 01:04:43,699
makes or the next dev
2070
01:04:43,699 --> 01:04:44,566
studio that makes it, they
2071
01:04:44,566 --> 01:04:46,000
can easily make a game
2072
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,500
that would pay for all that.
2073
01:04:51,033 --> 01:04:52,233
Command and Conquer, I think is another
2074
01:04:52,233 --> 01:04:53,466
one where I think if
2075
01:04:53,466 --> 01:04:55,433
we had a game that came
2076
01:04:55,433 --> 01:04:59,033
out, Command and Conquer come out, like a
2077
01:04:59,033 --> 01:05:02,533
real true new Command and Conquer, that's
2078
01:05:02,533 --> 01:05:04,500
a smaller studio could
2079
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,266
easily not be in the negative.
2080
01:05:07,266 --> 01:05:08,166
It'd be in the positive.
2081
01:05:09,366 --> 01:05:11,366
It's just companies are too used to
2082
01:05:11,366 --> 01:05:12,933
wanting to 10X everything
2083
01:05:12,933 --> 01:05:15,366
that if it does a 10X, even
2084
01:05:15,433 --> 01:05:18,500
if it makes them 4X, they consider that a
2085
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:19,933
loss, which is crazy.
2086
01:05:22,566 --> 01:05:23,900
When they could just put, like, stop
2087
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:25,633
firing people, put some of
2088
01:05:25,633 --> 01:05:27,333
the other people on there.
2089
01:05:27,333 --> 01:05:27,666
I don't know.
2090
01:05:27,666 --> 01:05:28,566
I could go into this whole thing.
2091
01:05:28,566 --> 01:05:30,533
I think we could definitely fix it if we
2092
01:05:30,533 --> 01:05:35,266
weren't so much chasing the 10X dollar.
2093
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:36,466
Yeah.
2094
01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:37,933
Yeah.
2095
01:05:39,366 --> 01:05:39,633
Yeah.
2096
01:05:40,633 --> 01:05:44,233
I mean, I don't, at the end of the day, I
2097
01:05:44,233 --> 01:05:46,533
don't like that Saudi Arabia owns it, but
2098
01:05:46,666 --> 01:05:49,566
I'm also very curious as to like, to see
2099
01:05:49,566 --> 01:05:51,033
how this does as a
2100
01:05:51,033 --> 01:05:52,066
company now and if it gets
2101
01:05:52,066 --> 01:05:53,033
restructured and everything.
2102
01:05:53,033 --> 01:05:55,400
Oh, and we should clarify, of course, you
2103
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,266
know, always a disclaimer.
2104
01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:00,666
We're not against the Saudi people.
2105
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:04,933
It's mostly just the government that, you
2106
01:06:04,933 --> 01:06:08,800
know, I take some, have some issue with.
2107
01:06:09,266 --> 01:06:09,466
Yeah.
2108
01:06:09,666 --> 01:06:09,966
Yeah.
2109
01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:11,566
Because we always get, because we do get
2110
01:06:11,566 --> 01:06:12,599
comments sometimes about that.
2111
01:06:12,833 --> 01:06:15,699
We probably should have started the topic
2112
01:06:15,699 --> 01:06:16,933
with that, but, you know, it's too late.
2113
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:17,866
I guess.
2114
01:06:18,699 --> 01:06:19,300
I don't know.
2115
01:06:19,533 --> 01:06:20,766
I mean, it's kind of obvious.
2116
01:06:20,766 --> 01:06:21,666
Like, I've said stuff
2117
01:06:21,666 --> 01:06:23,333
about the United States too.
2118
01:06:23,633 --> 01:06:24,099
I'm criticized.
2119
01:06:24,466 --> 01:06:26,833
I just, and we're getting
2120
01:06:26,833 --> 01:06:28,099
pretty close to that here too.
2121
01:06:28,099 --> 01:06:29,133
I criticize it heavily.
2122
01:06:30,133 --> 01:06:33,166
When you kill a reporter, like news kind
2123
01:06:33,166 --> 01:06:35,366
of stuff, that is one of the worst things
2124
01:06:35,366 --> 01:06:37,800
you can do because a free press is the
2125
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,599
most important thing.
2126
01:06:39,233 --> 01:06:41,333
And if you make them afraid, it's really,
2127
01:06:41,633 --> 01:06:44,366
that ends, that ends in authoritarianism,
2128
01:06:44,366 --> 01:06:45,033
no matter what.
2129
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,733
So they haven't had any
2130
01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:51,233
ramifications from it.
2131
01:06:51,866 --> 01:06:52,699
No payback.
2132
01:06:52,699 --> 01:06:53,366
And like nothing,
2133
01:06:53,766 --> 01:06:54,733
nothing has come from it.
2134
01:06:55,033 --> 01:06:57,900
So yeah, that is the problem.
2135
01:06:57,933 --> 01:07:00,166
I'm not going to say it's with the people
2136
01:07:00,166 --> 01:07:01,933
or anything else, but
2137
01:07:01,933 --> 01:07:06,766
yes, unaccounted murder
2138
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:07,199
stuff.
2139
01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:07,800
Okay.
2140
01:07:07,833 --> 01:07:09,099
We can move on to the next thing.
2141
01:07:09,666 --> 01:07:12,233
So Facebook deploys the Steam Deck's
2142
01:07:12,233 --> 01:07:14,266
Linux scheduler across its data centers.
2143
01:07:14,566 --> 01:07:15,933
Valve's low latency scheduler, perfect
2144
01:07:15,933 --> 01:07:17,066
for managing metas and
2145
01:07:17,066 --> 01:07:18,266
workloads at massive data
2146
01:07:18,266 --> 01:07:18,633
centers.
2147
01:07:19,866 --> 01:07:21,233
I did not even, this,
2148
01:07:21,233 --> 01:07:22,766
this was on the 23rd.
2149
01:07:22,766 --> 01:07:23,533
So it happened a few days
2150
01:07:23,533 --> 01:07:25,133
ago, but I was not aware of this.
2151
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:26,566
Yes.
2152
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,800
So it turns out the scheduler made for
2153
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,900
lower end hardware, you
2154
01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:33,633
know, to have them not
2155
01:07:33,633 --> 01:07:34,199
drop frames.
2156
01:07:35,366 --> 01:07:36,633
It turns out that's also
2157
01:07:36,633 --> 01:07:38,066
good for high end hardware too.
2158
01:07:38,266 --> 01:07:39,733
It's proof that optimization benefits
2159
01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:41,733
everyone, not just people at the low end.
2160
01:07:42,733 --> 01:07:43,066
Oh yeah.
2161
01:07:43,699 --> 01:07:45,766
When you're managing massive amounts of
2162
01:07:45,766 --> 01:07:46,266
things that need to be
2163
01:07:46,266 --> 01:07:48,466
scheduled, yeah, it's going
2164
01:07:48,466 --> 01:07:49,633
to help with overhead.
2165
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,199
Pull up the thumbnail for that article.
2166
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,366
That's ludicrous.
2167
01:07:55,666 --> 01:07:56,433
What this?
2168
01:07:56,733 --> 01:07:56,966
Yeah, that.
2169
01:07:57,033 --> 01:08:02,233
Meta, meta Steam Deck.
2170
01:08:02,966 --> 01:08:05,500
Dude, I should give, I can make a better
2171
01:08:05,500 --> 01:08:06,199
thumbnail than that.
2172
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:07,666
That thing is not cropped well.
2173
01:08:08,233 --> 01:08:09,033
No, not at all.
2174
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:09,666
Yeah.
2175
01:08:09,666 --> 01:08:11,466
It's like a trapezoid.
2176
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:12,933
Yeah.
2177
01:08:13,633 --> 01:08:15,599
They could have, I think AI did it.
2178
01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:17,866
No, I think AI would have done, would
2179
01:08:17,866 --> 01:08:19,466
have made something entirely different.
2180
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:21,000
I'm not so.
2181
01:08:23,233 --> 01:08:28,033
Dude, so the story here is actually
2182
01:08:28,033 --> 01:08:28,833
really interesting
2183
01:08:28,833 --> 01:08:31,600
because the Linux scheduler is
2184
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,800
usually pretty optimized, but what was
2185
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,899
developed here for the
2186
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:39,966
Steam Deck is like designed to
2187
01:08:39,966 --> 01:08:43,166
prevent like dropped frames, right?
2188
01:08:43,833 --> 01:08:45,399
It's like super optimized.
2189
01:08:46,766 --> 01:08:49,566
And at the scale that meta operates with
2190
01:08:49,566 --> 01:08:50,733
their servers, like
2191
01:08:50,733 --> 01:08:52,933
any kind of like weird
2192
01:08:52,933 --> 01:08:55,833
bottlenecks, if you can avoid it, it ends
2193
01:08:55,833 --> 01:08:57,433
up saving a ton of electricity.
2194
01:08:58,166 --> 01:09:00,966
So like this is actually crazy.
2195
01:09:02,133 --> 01:09:04,000
And it's also very interesting that this
2196
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,733
is yet another example
2197
01:09:05,733 --> 01:09:07,600
of meta profiting from
2198
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,366
Valve, like Valve work.
2199
01:09:10,566 --> 01:09:13,566
Because like Valve actually
2200
01:09:13,566 --> 01:09:16,000
was deeply invested in Oculus.
2201
01:09:16,333 --> 01:09:20,133
Like they, Valve was like very much on
2202
01:09:20,133 --> 01:09:21,233
board and helping
2203
01:09:21,233 --> 01:09:23,300
Oculus develop some VR tech.
2204
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:25,633
And then meta swooped in and bought that
2205
01:09:25,633 --> 01:09:26,733
from, you know, right
2206
01:09:26,733 --> 01:09:27,533
off from underneath them.
2207
01:09:27,833 --> 01:09:29,233
So interesting.
2208
01:09:29,966 --> 01:09:30,166
Interesting.
2209
01:09:30,833 --> 01:09:32,366
No, don't bring that back up.
2210
01:09:32,566 --> 01:09:34,333
I remember when that happened.
2211
01:09:34,699 --> 01:09:34,933
That was.
2212
01:09:35,166 --> 01:09:35,399
Yeah.
2213
01:09:36,533 --> 01:09:36,899
Oh, man.
2214
01:09:37,533 --> 01:09:38,766
Man, there's such a freaking
2215
01:09:38,766 --> 01:09:40,199
liege on society sometimes.
2216
01:09:40,833 --> 01:09:41,033
Yeah.
2217
01:09:41,633 --> 01:09:43,166
I mean, it's interesting too, because
2218
01:09:43,166 --> 01:09:44,266
it's fine if they use it.
2219
01:09:44,266 --> 01:09:45,266
It's just yeah.
2220
01:09:45,266 --> 01:09:45,533
Oh yeah.
2221
01:09:45,533 --> 01:09:45,866
Yeah.
2222
01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:47,833
It's open source, right?
2223
01:09:48,633 --> 01:09:49,933
And you met it to their credit does
2224
01:09:49,933 --> 01:09:51,333
contribute to open source,
2225
01:09:51,333 --> 01:09:53,433
but they do like one of the
2226
01:09:53,566 --> 01:09:56,899
biggest front end libraries react is meta
2227
01:09:56,899 --> 01:09:58,100
based and it's good.
2228
01:09:59,033 --> 01:09:59,333
Yeah.
2229
01:09:59,333 --> 01:09:59,733
Sorry, continue.
2230
01:10:00,366 --> 01:10:02,133
In fact, no, I was using funny enough.
2231
01:10:02,366 --> 01:10:04,399
Valve uses it in the Steam
2232
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:05,866
store like in Steam itself.
2233
01:10:06,233 --> 01:10:06,866
It is react.
2234
01:10:07,966 --> 01:10:09,666
Big picture mode is react.
2235
01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:12,166
I think it's all react with PHP.
2236
01:10:12,166 --> 01:10:13,966
I think it's PHP and then
2237
01:10:13,966 --> 01:10:16,366
all of the steam UI is react.
2238
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:17,533
Yeah.
2239
01:10:17,533 --> 01:10:17,733
Sorry.
2240
01:10:18,533 --> 01:10:18,966
No, you're right.
2241
01:10:18,966 --> 01:10:19,733
You're absolutely right.
2242
01:10:19,733 --> 01:10:21,166
I mean, the new steam
2243
01:10:21,166 --> 01:10:22,733
library is react based.
2244
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,300
Everything in steam though is react.
2245
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:27,000
Because I've had to modify it
2246
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,466
doing some hacks in the past.
2247
01:10:29,466 --> 01:10:31,233
I've done some software releases for
2248
01:10:31,233 --> 01:10:32,833
steam and modifying it.
2249
01:10:32,833 --> 01:10:34,699
And yeah, it's react.
2250
01:10:34,699 --> 01:10:35,933
Yeah. It's react.
2251
01:10:37,633 --> 01:10:37,966
Interesting.
2252
01:10:39,433 --> 01:10:40,800
But no, like I don't know.
2253
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,133
This is kind of it's kind of
2254
01:10:42,133 --> 01:10:43,366
neat to see though, you know?
2255
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:44,433
Yeah.
2256
01:10:45,699 --> 01:10:45,966
Yeah.
2257
01:10:46,733 --> 01:10:48,233
Valve uses react.
2258
01:10:49,166 --> 01:10:51,033
Meta uses the valves thing.
2259
01:10:51,033 --> 01:10:52,333
I mean, that's good, I guess.
2260
01:10:52,333 --> 01:10:53,966
And it's also very indicative of valves
2261
01:10:53,966 --> 01:10:55,266
position as a sort of
2262
01:10:55,266 --> 01:10:57,366
Linux champion of sorts.
2263
01:10:58,133 --> 01:10:58,433
Yeah.
2264
01:10:58,933 --> 01:11:00,500
This could be positioning them to be like
2265
01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:02,066
just doing much more
2266
01:11:02,066 --> 01:11:02,866
like every time they.
2267
01:11:03,433 --> 01:11:05,433
So with the scheduler, I know sometimes
2268
01:11:05,433 --> 01:11:07,433
there can be like trade
2269
01:11:07,433 --> 01:11:08,433
offs for this type of stuff
2270
01:11:08,433 --> 01:11:11,233
where like, is there like, I don't know.
2271
01:11:11,233 --> 01:11:12,666
I have not looked into this much, but
2272
01:11:12,666 --> 01:11:14,066
does this CPU scheduler,
2273
01:11:14,066 --> 01:11:15,266
does this have any trade
2274
01:11:15,266 --> 01:11:15,766
offs though?
2275
01:11:16,733 --> 01:11:18,033
It just sounds like they need to have it
2276
01:11:18,033 --> 01:11:19,466
set up to where it can
2277
01:11:19,466 --> 01:11:21,633
have some micro schedulers
2278
01:11:21,633 --> 01:11:22,199
or something like that.
2279
01:11:22,433 --> 01:11:22,633
Yeah.
2280
01:11:22,633 --> 01:11:24,600
Because like it's really good.
2281
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,333
It sounds like at one main process that
2282
01:11:28,333 --> 01:11:29,433
maybe has to utilize
2283
01:11:29,433 --> 01:11:30,766
maybe a couple other ones,
2284
01:11:30,766 --> 01:11:32,366
but that's all based off of one process.
2285
01:11:32,933 --> 01:11:33,733
Yeah.
2286
01:11:35,066 --> 01:11:37,300
I'm not like super versed in this, but
2287
01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:38,833
from what I, that's my understanding.
2288
01:11:39,333 --> 01:11:39,533
Yeah.
2289
01:11:40,133 --> 01:11:40,333
Yeah.
2290
01:11:41,133 --> 01:11:41,933
So that makes sense.
2291
01:11:41,933 --> 01:11:43,100
That would work really well on a massive
2292
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:44,166
server where like they
2293
01:11:44,166 --> 01:11:45,166
don't have to switch, like
2294
01:11:45,166 --> 01:11:47,533
they have depending
2295
01:11:47,533 --> 01:11:48,833
what type of server it is.
2296
01:11:48,833 --> 01:11:49,633
There's their, yeah.
2297
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,399
I'm not going to go too deep into it
2298
01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:52,466
until I read into it more,
2299
01:11:52,466 --> 01:11:53,566
but yeah, this is interesting.
2300
01:11:54,466 --> 01:11:55,233
It's lovely to see it.
2301
01:11:55,733 --> 01:11:58,266
And like, like high tech said, like this
2302
01:11:58,266 --> 01:11:59,833
is valve kind of being
2303
01:11:59,833 --> 01:12:01,233
at the forefront of Linux
2304
01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:03,866
optimization and that's
2305
01:12:03,866 --> 01:12:04,933
interesting to see as well.
2306
01:12:07,366 --> 01:12:09,533
Oh no, it does really well at one size
2307
01:12:09,533 --> 01:12:10,433
fits all scheduling,
2308
01:12:10,433 --> 01:12:11,133
at least for servers.
2309
01:12:12,366 --> 01:12:12,566
Interesting.
2310
01:12:12,966 --> 01:12:13,866
I think you're not
2311
01:12:13,866 --> 01:12:15,033
necessarily wrong either.
2312
01:12:15,033 --> 01:12:16,866
I think, but for a server, like it does a
2313
01:12:16,866 --> 01:12:17,533
really good job of
2314
01:12:17,533 --> 01:12:19,100
not, of like, it's closer
2315
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:20,666
to a fleet wide default.
2316
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:21,800
Yeah.
2317
01:12:21,866 --> 01:12:24,233
It can automatically without hand tuned
2318
01:12:24,233 --> 01:12:25,766
configurations do a better
2319
01:12:25,766 --> 01:12:26,733
job than a lot of their other
2320
01:12:26,733 --> 01:12:27,133
schedulers.
2321
01:12:27,366 --> 01:12:28,466
So yeah.
2322
01:12:28,933 --> 01:12:29,233
Okay.
2323
01:12:29,866 --> 01:12:30,666
That makes sense.
2324
01:12:31,733 --> 01:12:32,966
Interesting.
2325
01:12:34,433 --> 01:12:34,933
I will admit.
2326
01:12:37,433 --> 01:12:39,233
CPU schedules are a little, a little
2327
01:12:39,233 --> 01:12:41,566
above my head, but it
2328
01:12:41,566 --> 01:12:42,366
is good to see that.
2329
01:12:42,633 --> 01:12:45,066
I mean, Lord knows how much more valve
2330
01:12:45,066 --> 01:12:46,166
tech has under the hood
2331
01:12:46,166 --> 01:12:47,833
that we don't really know
2332
01:12:47,833 --> 01:12:50,533
or talk about all that much that can help
2333
01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:51,833
not just the steam
2334
01:12:51,833 --> 01:12:54,333
deck, but also the data
2335
01:12:54,333 --> 01:12:55,133
centers and like almost
2336
01:12:55,133 --> 01:12:56,233
everything too, to be honest.
2337
01:12:57,133 --> 01:12:57,333
Yeah.
2338
01:12:58,066 --> 01:12:58,733
Why are we pumping all
2339
01:12:58,733 --> 01:12:59,666
this money into Nvidia?
2340
01:12:59,733 --> 01:13:01,433
We need to start subsidizing valve.
2341
01:13:02,766 --> 01:13:03,433
Yeah, but I'm someone's
2342
01:13:03,433 --> 01:13:04,899
going to want to trade.
2343
01:13:05,133 --> 01:13:06,333
They make so much money.
2344
01:13:06,333 --> 01:13:06,633
I know.
2345
01:13:06,633 --> 01:13:06,866
I know.
2346
01:13:07,133 --> 01:13:08,100
They make so much money.
2347
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:09,166
They could probably do even
2348
01:13:09,166 --> 01:13:10,166
more if they really wanted.
2349
01:13:10,166 --> 01:13:10,366
But yeah.
2350
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:11,233
Yeah.
2351
01:13:11,633 --> 01:13:12,733
This is really cool though.
2352
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:14,333
This is really cool.
2353
01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:15,766
I really, I really like, I'm wondering
2354
01:13:15,766 --> 01:13:17,066
what more is to come
2355
01:13:17,066 --> 01:13:19,366
from this whole thing.
2356
01:13:19,366 --> 01:13:20,733
You want to know what's more to come?
2357
01:13:22,533 --> 01:13:22,933
Spotify.
2358
01:13:23,233 --> 01:13:24,466
Spotify is downfall.
2359
01:13:24,733 --> 01:13:31,666
Someone somehow scraped all of Spotify,
2360
01:13:32,199 --> 01:13:34,199
downloaded all tracks.
2361
01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:37,600
I don't know if that includes our podcast
2362
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:38,933
because we're on
2363
01:13:38,933 --> 01:13:40,199
Spotify as well, to be honest.
2364
01:13:42,766 --> 01:13:43,733
We don't get that many viewers.
2365
01:13:43,933 --> 01:13:44,866
We don't get that many
2366
01:13:44,866 --> 01:13:45,800
listeners from Spotify.
2367
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:46,366
I don't believe I
2368
01:13:46,366 --> 01:13:48,100
believe last week checked.
2369
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:48,833
It was Apple music.
2370
01:13:48,833 --> 01:13:50,066
That was actually the most popular, which
2371
01:13:50,066 --> 01:13:50,699
is interesting to me.
2372
01:13:51,733 --> 01:13:54,066
Apple podcasts is what
2373
01:13:54,066 --> 01:13:56,166
started podcasts almost.
2374
01:13:56,933 --> 01:13:57,533
They're like the second
2375
01:13:57,533 --> 01:13:59,699
and yeah, it makes sense.
2376
01:14:00,966 --> 01:14:02,300
But you'd also expect Spotify.
2377
01:14:02,500 --> 01:14:04,466
I used to use Spotify religiously a few
2378
01:14:04,466 --> 01:14:06,199
years ago and then I just got tired of
2379
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:07,566
paying for it and everything.
2380
01:14:07,566 --> 01:14:10,666
And now that I, yeah, yeah, it's either
2381
01:14:10,666 --> 01:14:12,500
YouTube or Apple music for me.
2382
01:14:12,733 --> 01:14:15,866
But man, that's a lot
2383
01:14:15,866 --> 01:14:16,933
of data to shift through.
2384
01:14:17,266 --> 01:14:18,433
I'm doubt they're ever going to get to
2385
01:14:18,433 --> 01:14:20,033
our podcast and our podcast can be
2386
01:14:20,033 --> 01:14:20,699
downloaded from our podcast.
2387
01:14:20,733 --> 01:14:21,233
We can't get to our podcast feed.
2388
01:14:22,633 --> 01:14:22,833
Yeah.
2389
01:14:23,833 --> 01:14:27,566
So yeah, I mean, why download Spotify's
2390
01:14:27,566 --> 01:14:28,333
version when you just
2391
01:14:28,333 --> 01:14:29,166
download our version?
2392
01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:31,533
Exactly. There you go, guys.
2393
01:14:32,733 --> 01:14:34,233
We got to get back into it.
2394
01:14:34,233 --> 01:14:35,533
It's 300 terabytes to
2395
01:14:35,533 --> 01:14:37,233
store all of Spotify's library.
2396
01:14:37,899 --> 01:14:38,500
In case you were wondering.
2397
01:14:41,966 --> 01:14:42,966
300 terabytes.
2398
01:14:43,333 --> 01:14:45,266
How what percentage of that is a slot?
2399
01:14:47,033 --> 01:14:48,666
It seems like not that much.
2400
01:14:48,866 --> 01:14:49,566
It doesn't seem as much
2401
01:14:49,566 --> 01:14:50,800
as I thought it would be.
2402
01:14:51,466 --> 01:14:53,133
Probably not an
2403
01:14:53,133 --> 01:14:54,866
insignificant amount, but we shall see.
2404
01:14:55,933 --> 01:14:58,433
So essentially this blog called Anna's
2405
01:14:58,433 --> 01:15:00,433
Archive, that's the place that you would
2406
01:15:00,433 --> 01:15:02,966
not download it from, obviously.
2407
01:15:06,233 --> 01:15:07,333
You it's a torrent.
2408
01:15:07,766 --> 01:15:09,166
You can torrent it.
2409
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:12,699
Holy crap, that's a torrent.
2410
01:15:12,733 --> 01:15:16,633
Like how is it broken up or is it just
2411
01:15:16,633 --> 01:15:17,833
all one massive torrent?
2412
01:15:18,199 --> 01:15:19,366
Let me check the site.
2413
01:15:20,066 --> 01:15:22,600
That torrent file would have to be like
2414
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:27,399
multiple megabytes in size, like 300
2415
01:15:27,399 --> 01:15:29,699
megabytes per cent or something.
2416
01:15:29,699 --> 01:15:30,433
That would be crazy.
2417
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,199
So they don't just do Spotify.
2418
01:15:37,066 --> 01:15:38,866
They are also just a
2419
01:15:38,866 --> 01:15:40,066
shadow library altogether.
2420
01:15:40,066 --> 01:15:40,699
They're like those like.
2421
01:15:40,733 --> 01:15:43,333
I can't say the names of the websites
2422
01:15:43,333 --> 01:15:45,433
because I can't remember them, but you
2423
01:15:45,433 --> 01:15:46,233
get what I'm saying, right?
2424
01:15:47,233 --> 01:15:47,433
Yeah.
2425
01:15:50,333 --> 01:15:51,699
Yeah, these are the sorts of websites
2426
01:15:51,699 --> 01:15:53,466
that where you would download peer
2427
01:15:53,466 --> 01:15:56,300
reviewed journals for free because you
2428
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:57,333
have to pay to get
2429
01:15:57,333 --> 01:15:58,600
access to some of them.
2430
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,566
Which is what which now that I think
2431
01:16:01,566 --> 01:16:03,033
about it is terrible.
2432
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:05,433
Information should be
2433
01:16:05,433 --> 01:16:06,699
free for anyone to get.
2434
01:16:07,733 --> 01:16:10,266
And I would rather have peer reviewed
2435
01:16:10,266 --> 01:16:12,133
journals be at the top of the Google
2436
01:16:12,133 --> 01:16:13,600
listings than say, I
2437
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,266
don't know, A.I. blogs.
2438
01:16:15,466 --> 01:16:17,133
But you know, there's
2439
01:16:17,133 --> 01:16:17,933
neither here nor there.
2440
01:16:17,933 --> 01:16:20,033
The problem with peer reviewed journals
2441
01:16:20,033 --> 01:16:22,666
and journals themselves is that there you
2442
01:16:22,666 --> 01:16:25,933
need a good communicator
2443
01:16:25,933 --> 01:16:28,266
to to do that type of stuff.
2444
01:16:28,533 --> 01:16:30,399
People, the average person is not going
2445
01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:31,233
to get very far in that.
2446
01:16:31,899 --> 01:16:32,766
I mean, look at our
2447
01:16:32,766 --> 01:16:33,699
literacy rate in America alone.
2448
01:16:33,733 --> 01:16:40,699
So yeah, I also don't. Yeah, I don't like
2449
01:16:40,699 --> 01:16:43,166
that things are also going
2450
01:16:43,166 --> 01:16:44,366
to pay a wall too, though.
2451
01:16:45,533 --> 01:16:46,666
That is true.
2452
01:16:50,366 --> 01:16:50,566
So.
2453
01:16:52,699 --> 01:16:53,033
Yeah.
2454
01:16:54,933 --> 01:16:55,966
I think. Yeah.
2455
01:16:57,899 --> 01:16:58,699
Sorry, what were you going to say?
2456
01:16:58,699 --> 01:17:05,199
No, nothing. So how did they was it hacked?
2457
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:06,399
I don't understand
2458
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:09,333
fully how they got all it.
2459
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:10,733
Did they just like stream it?
2460
01:17:10,733 --> 01:17:12,500
And then every time they had a bot that
2461
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:14,733
just would go through all of the Spotify
2462
01:17:14,733 --> 01:17:17,666
and just like cash it because there's I'm
2463
01:17:17,666 --> 01:17:19,600
sure there's ways to cash Spotify stuff.
2464
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,133
If you just put it on your computer,
2465
01:17:21,566 --> 01:17:22,433
start listening to it and
2466
01:17:22,433 --> 01:17:24,833
you could probably record it.
2467
01:17:25,466 --> 01:17:26,699
I suspect it would do something.
2468
01:17:26,699 --> 01:17:30,533
I suspect it would do something. I suspect it would do something. I suspect it was something to the effect
2469
01:17:30,533 --> 01:17:32,733
of like YouTube DLP or whatever.
2470
01:17:33,666 --> 01:17:35,433
Like one of those like it's like one of
2471
01:17:35,433 --> 01:17:38,533
those command line tools that knows how
2472
01:17:38,533 --> 01:17:40,233
to break the DRM and download it.
2473
01:17:40,766 --> 01:17:40,966
Yeah.
2474
01:17:43,133 --> 01:17:43,333
Yeah.
2475
01:17:44,566 --> 01:17:46,933
Also, just just a fun fact, I checked on
2476
01:17:46,933 --> 01:17:48,500
Spotify in the last month.
2477
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:50,866
We've had 213 plays on Spotify.
2478
01:17:51,633 --> 01:17:52,033
Not bad.
2479
01:17:52,766 --> 01:17:53,266
Yeah.
2480
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,233
Okay.
2481
01:17:57,133 --> 01:17:57,566
All right.
2482
01:17:57,566 --> 01:17:59,533
Let's see how big this torrent file is.
2483
01:17:59,833 --> 01:18:00,399
I found one.
2484
01:18:00,633 --> 01:18:02,366
I found so it's split up into.
2485
01:18:04,733 --> 01:18:05,566
So the point.
2486
01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:08,333
Wait, there's a two point.
2487
01:18:08,633 --> 01:18:09,666
What is this?
2488
01:18:10,333 --> 01:18:11,166
What are we looking at?
2489
01:18:12,066 --> 01:18:13,133
You're looking at a virus now.
2490
01:18:14,566 --> 01:18:15,233
I must be.
2491
01:18:15,233 --> 01:18:16,366
There's like three files.
2492
01:18:16,366 --> 01:18:17,733
There's.
2493
01:18:18,166 --> 01:18:19,733
See audio analysis.
2494
01:18:20,733 --> 01:18:23,100
See there's audio cover art.
2495
01:18:23,899 --> 01:18:25,466
And then there's.
2496
01:18:26,399 --> 01:18:27,566
Metadata as well.
2497
01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:28,600
Wait.
2498
01:18:29,733 --> 01:18:31,100
Is this are these not the music?
2499
01:18:31,533 --> 01:18:33,033
Wait, no, this is just the data.
2500
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:34,266
Wait, hon.
2501
01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:38,966
By the way, I'm not downloading the
2502
01:18:38,966 --> 01:18:40,233
entirety of Spotify.
2503
01:18:40,233 --> 01:18:40,833
That's insane.
2504
01:18:42,466 --> 01:18:43,800
Well, for multiple reasons, I mean.
2505
01:18:44,633 --> 01:18:45,000
Yeah.
2506
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:45,966
Like for starters, I don't
2507
01:18:45,966 --> 01:18:47,366
have enough storage for that.
2508
01:18:48,733 --> 01:18:49,500
And also, I don't think you
2509
01:18:49,500 --> 01:18:50,600
have enough funds for legal.
2510
01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:52,600
Yeah, I don't have enough funds.
2511
01:18:54,733 --> 01:18:58,899
So subscribe to our Patreon guys to help
2512
01:18:58,899 --> 01:19:00,966
fund high techs legal fees.
2513
01:19:03,733 --> 01:19:07,366
Yeah, man, that's crazy.
2514
01:19:10,699 --> 01:19:11,733
All right, so I don't actually know how
2515
01:19:11,733 --> 01:19:13,533
to I don't know how people would
2516
01:19:13,533 --> 01:19:14,500
actually download the
2517
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:15,933
songs from Anna's archive.
2518
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:18,800
All right, whatever.
2519
01:19:19,433 --> 01:19:19,866
That's fine.
2520
01:19:20,166 --> 01:19:20,899
That just means people
2521
01:19:20,899 --> 01:19:21,699
can download our podcast.
2522
01:19:21,699 --> 01:19:22,166
So I'm going to go ahead and download it. I'm going to go ahead
2523
01:19:22,166 --> 01:19:22,366
and download the podcast.
2524
01:19:23,933 --> 01:19:27,566
Yeah, no, I.
2525
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:31,966
It'll be interesting to see how Spotify
2526
01:19:31,966 --> 01:19:32,766
is going to handle this because
2527
01:19:32,766 --> 01:19:33,233
I've been used.
2528
01:19:33,233 --> 01:19:36,833
There's going to be a lot of tracking
2529
01:19:36,833 --> 01:19:38,800
down and lawsuits and someone
2530
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:39,666
probably going to jail.
2531
01:19:41,366 --> 01:19:42,133
Oh, but they did.
2532
01:19:42,133 --> 01:19:45,033
But on top of some pirating Spotify, you
2533
01:19:45,033 --> 01:19:46,000
know what they did as well?
2534
01:19:46,566 --> 01:19:47,699
Some data exploration.
2535
01:19:48,733 --> 01:19:52,933
Oh, the like this right here.
2536
01:19:53,466 --> 01:19:53,666
Yes.
2537
01:19:54,233 --> 01:19:55,399
Songs by popularity score.
2538
01:19:55,399 --> 01:19:56,399
I don't understand this.
2539
01:19:58,300 --> 01:19:59,533
I don't understand that graph either to
2540
01:19:59,533 --> 01:20:01,066
be honest is a horrible graph.
2541
01:20:01,066 --> 01:20:02,733
By the way, Tom's hardware.
2542
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:04,266
It looks like it was
2543
01:20:04,266 --> 01:20:05,366
it's not their graph.
2544
01:20:05,366 --> 01:20:07,033
No, it was Anna's archives graphs.
2545
01:20:07,033 --> 01:20:07,600
I mean, you scroll on
2546
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,066
the on the rights article.
2547
01:20:09,366 --> 01:20:10,533
There's a lot of these.
2548
01:20:11,233 --> 01:20:11,899
This is fine.
2549
01:20:12,466 --> 01:20:13,800
This is horrible.
2550
01:20:14,033 --> 01:20:14,699
You have to scale it down.
2551
01:20:14,699 --> 01:20:20,000
Like their skills is wrong. This is a fine graph.
2552
01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:22,166
Songs by popularity score.
2553
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:24,800
I don't even know logarithmic scale.
2554
01:20:25,699 --> 01:20:31,266
Number of songs.
2555
01:20:33,766 --> 01:20:34,000
Yeah.
2556
01:20:35,633 --> 01:20:36,533
There's more though
2557
01:20:36,533 --> 01:20:38,966
stream analysis by popularity.
2558
01:20:40,633 --> 01:20:41,699
Total streams bars versus average song line.
2559
01:20:41,699 --> 01:20:53,300
And then you can see that. I mean, I think that's a good question. I mean, I think that's a good question. I mean, that's a lot of data that I'm
2560
01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:56,433
sure some of this Spotify was trying to
2561
01:20:56,433 --> 01:20:58,066
protect as much as this is probably more
2562
01:20:58,066 --> 01:21:00,500
damaging than the everything getting
2563
01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:04,433
sent all the songs being downloaded and
2564
01:21:04,433 --> 01:21:06,600
all the podcasts and everything.
2565
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,366
You can also estimate that the top three
2566
01:21:08,366 --> 01:21:08,699
songs as of the writing have a higher
2567
01:21:08,699 --> 01:21:11,466
total of the number of songs that are being downloaded. And then you can see that the top three songs are being downloaded. And then you can see that the top three songs as of the writing have a higher
2568
01:21:11,466 --> 01:21:14,066
total stream count than the bottom 20 to
2569
01:21:14,066 --> 01:21:16,199
100 million songs combined.
2570
01:21:16,966 --> 01:21:17,333
Yeah.
2571
01:21:17,966 --> 01:21:19,133
Lady Gaga Bruno Mars.
2572
01:21:19,133 --> 01:21:19,966
Die with a smile.
2573
01:21:20,733 --> 01:21:21,633
Billy Eilish.
2574
01:21:22,266 --> 01:21:23,300
Billy eyelash.
2575
01:21:23,733 --> 01:21:24,533
Breads of a feather.
2576
01:21:25,633 --> 01:21:26,033
Bad Bunny.
2577
01:21:26,966 --> 01:21:27,633
Aka Mr.
2578
01:21:27,866 --> 01:21:28,199
Super Bowl.
2579
01:21:28,933 --> 01:21:29,333
DTM.
2580
01:21:31,966 --> 01:21:32,766
Dude.
2581
01:21:35,733 --> 01:21:37,133
He's because he's.
2582
01:21:37,766 --> 01:21:38,366
He's an American.
2583
01:21:38,933 --> 01:21:39,133
Yeah.
2584
01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:39,699
America.
2585
01:21:40,733 --> 01:21:43,199
America is American territory.
2586
01:21:43,433 --> 01:21:44,000
If you're born there,
2587
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:44,666
you're an American citizen.
2588
01:21:45,699 --> 01:21:45,899
Yep.
2589
01:21:47,733 --> 01:21:48,266
Sorry.
2590
01:21:48,266 --> 01:21:50,466
Don't be the very that I just see what
2591
01:21:50,466 --> 01:21:52,699
else we got tracks by duration.
2592
01:21:53,533 --> 01:21:55,833
Your average song seems to sit around
2593
01:21:55,833 --> 01:21:58,266
three minutes and 15 seconds.
2594
01:21:59,966 --> 01:22:00,366
All these.
2595
01:22:01,166 --> 01:22:01,399
Yeah.
2596
01:22:01,733 --> 01:22:02,166
Let's see.
2597
01:22:02,466 --> 01:22:04,000
Long tracks by duration.
2598
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:08,633
Off 30 music genres by artist count.
2599
01:22:09,233 --> 01:22:10,733
Operas at the top opera.
2600
01:22:11,733 --> 01:22:14,366
Is that the top by the artist council?
2601
01:22:14,366 --> 01:22:16,166
There's more art opera artists.
2602
01:22:16,966 --> 01:22:20,566
Oh, that is interesting, though.
2603
01:22:23,033 --> 01:22:23,766
Chamber music.
2604
01:22:26,333 --> 01:22:27,100
Maybe they mean like
2605
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:28,500
elevator black metal.
2606
01:22:28,899 --> 01:22:29,300
Holy.
2607
01:22:31,266 --> 01:22:33,366
Oh, the least popular it seems is
2608
01:22:33,366 --> 01:22:34,699
underground hip hop.
2609
01:22:36,066 --> 01:22:37,066
Followed by hyper pop.
2610
01:22:38,066 --> 01:22:39,066
What is hyper pop?
2611
01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:42,033
No, no.
2612
01:22:42,433 --> 01:22:43,133
Should we find out?
2613
01:22:43,966 --> 01:22:44,233
No.
2614
01:22:45,966 --> 01:22:47,266
We want to get content struck.
2615
01:22:48,066 --> 01:22:48,266
Yeah.
2616
01:22:50,500 --> 01:22:50,833
I see.
2617
01:22:51,133 --> 01:22:51,766
Okay, guys.
2618
01:22:53,133 --> 01:22:54,766
I think we're going to have to start
2619
01:22:54,766 --> 01:22:57,066
wrapping up this episode, but there's.
2620
01:22:57,433 --> 01:22:58,133
I didn't realize how
2621
01:22:58,133 --> 01:22:59,300
much data there is in this.
2622
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:00,933
This is this is what
2623
01:23:00,933 --> 01:23:02,066
I'm here for is the data.
2624
01:23:02,866 --> 01:23:04,633
Also, another data point.
2625
01:23:05,633 --> 01:23:09,333
Spotify is outperforming Apple Podcasts.
2626
01:23:09,566 --> 01:23:11,833
We had 75 plays on Apple Podcasts this
2627
01:23:11,833 --> 01:23:14,000
month versus 200 and what?
2628
01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:15,733
213.
2629
01:23:16,833 --> 01:23:19,866
And then do we maybe have some issues
2630
01:23:19,866 --> 01:23:20,766
with the Apple Podcast?
2631
01:23:21,233 --> 01:23:23,300
Well, I'm I'm logged into the actual
2632
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:24,699
dashboards for each one.
2633
01:23:24,733 --> 01:23:28,266
I think Apple Podcasts like whole
2634
01:23:28,266 --> 01:23:30,266
downloads the episode like multiple times
2635
01:23:30,266 --> 01:23:34,266
per for some reason in our back end.
2636
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:35,066
So it's weird.
2637
01:23:37,866 --> 01:23:38,333
Yeah, man.
2638
01:23:38,333 --> 01:23:39,433
We're ending on a good note.
2639
01:23:39,933 --> 01:23:44,633
We didn't hit one K on YouTube because by
2640
01:23:44,633 --> 01:23:45,766
the time the next episode airs is
2641
01:23:45,766 --> 01:23:46,733
going to be the new year, right?
2642
01:23:48,699 --> 01:23:49,600
There's always next year.
2643
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:50,566
There's always next year.
2644
01:23:50,566 --> 01:23:51,666
Hope we can have okay.
2645
01:23:53,633 --> 01:23:53,699
Yeah.
2646
01:23:53,733 --> 01:23:54,300
So there.
2647
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:56,333
100K.
2648
01:23:57,133 --> 01:23:57,966
Sorry, I met a thousand.
2649
01:23:58,233 --> 01:24:00,033
Well, 100K.
2650
01:24:00,033 --> 01:24:00,466
Let's do it.
2651
01:24:00,699 --> 01:24:02,333
I'm not going to play.
2652
01:24:02,333 --> 01:24:05,466
Okay, guys.
2653
01:24:05,866 --> 01:24:08,566
Yeah, let's let's end this thing out.
2654
01:24:08,833 --> 01:24:11,733
Thank you guys for listening,
2655
01:24:11,733 --> 01:24:12,733
watching wherever you're at.
2656
01:24:13,033 --> 01:24:15,766
Make sure to like subscribe comment.
2657
01:24:15,766 --> 01:24:16,966
We love hearing your guys's comments.
2658
01:24:17,366 --> 01:24:19,733
We'll try to read more in the year 2026.
2659
01:24:19,733 --> 01:24:20,433
I mean, I read them.
2660
01:24:20,433 --> 01:24:22,133
I just try to respond to a little more.
2661
01:24:22,733 --> 01:24:25,033
But yeah, now we enjoy everything you
2662
01:24:25,033 --> 01:24:29,866
guys do for us and continue being
2663
01:24:29,866 --> 01:24:31,366
class, I guess classy until
2664
01:24:31,366 --> 01:24:32,366
the next year or whatever.
2665
01:24:34,066 --> 01:24:34,733
I'm getting too old.
2666
01:24:35,066 --> 01:24:35,266
Yeah.
2667
01:24:35,633 --> 01:24:36,866
I don't have any good terms.
2668
01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:38,166
That's okay, man.
2669
01:24:38,166 --> 01:24:39,033
Let's post Christmas.
2670
01:24:40,233 --> 01:24:40,833
Yeah, it's true.
2671
01:24:41,133 --> 01:24:42,800
I've been partying and eating lots of
2672
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,833
junk food the last few days.
2673
01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:46,500
So then junk food.
2674
01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:46,866
I'm over.
2675
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:49,066
Okay.
2676
01:24:49,466 --> 01:24:50,866
With that being said, we'll catch you
2677
01:24:50,866 --> 01:24:51,699
guys next time in the next episode in
2678
01:24:51,733 --> 01:24:52,833
the next year.
2679
01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:53,500
Peace out.
2680
01:24:53,833 --> 01:24:54,133
Later.
2681
01:24:54,466 --> 01:24:55,366
Happy new year.
2682
01:24:55,366 --> 01:24:55,933
Happy new year.
2683
01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:57,066
Happy new year.