1 00:00:00,133 --> 00:00:02,833 Look at these like felt robots, man. They 2 00:00:02,833 --> 00:00:03,899 don't even look cool 3 00:00:04,733 --> 00:00:07,333 They look like like a iRobot in a sock 4 00:00:08,133 --> 00:00:09,666 Every all the chores that it's showing 5 00:00:10,433 --> 00:00:11,833 The robots doing in the 6 00:00:11,833 --> 00:00:13,566 videos none of them are dishes 7 00:00:13,633 --> 00:00:16,266 This thing is gonna get filthy and you're 8 00:00:16,266 --> 00:00:18,000 gonna have to clean it all the time 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,233 It's covered in cloth. Like you 10 00:00:19,233 --> 00:00:20,833 mentioned, it's gonna get filthy. You're 11 00:00:20,833 --> 00:00:21,733 gonna have to have two 12 00:00:21,733 --> 00:00:24,466 So you have to buy two of it. They have 13 00:00:24,466 --> 00:00:25,833 to have a two pack. Oh, 14 00:00:25,833 --> 00:00:27,100 yeah, so one can clean the other 15 00:00:27,100 --> 00:00:29,033 What are you guys doing in here? 16 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,266 I 17 00:00:32,133 --> 00:00:34,433 Unit one it is time for your bath 18 00:00:41,033 --> 00:00:43,166 Welcome to off the console the hottest 19 00:00:43,166 --> 00:00:45,233 new podcast that's all about gaming tech 20 00:00:45,233 --> 00:00:46,666 news and anything nerdy 21 00:00:46,666 --> 00:00:49,033 today. We have a special guest 22 00:00:49,366 --> 00:00:50,666 Bill from the nerd nest 23 00:00:50,666 --> 00:00:53,200 podcast welcome. Hey, thanks 24 00:00:53,833 --> 00:00:54,866 yes, so 25 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,000 For those who don't know bill is a 26 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,366 content creator. He focuses a lot on 27 00:00:58,366 --> 00:01:00,399 steam deck related content and also 28 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:02,166 general PC handheld stuff 29 00:01:02,533 --> 00:01:05,400 And also runs the nerd nest podcast which 30 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,966 it's a good watch. You guys should 31 00:01:06,966 --> 00:01:07,766 definitely check it out 32 00:01:07,766 --> 00:01:09,666 I'm sure there's some crossover between 33 00:01:09,666 --> 00:01:12,266 this and there this and the nerd nest 34 00:01:12,266 --> 00:01:13,766 podcast in terms of the audience 35 00:01:13,766 --> 00:01:15,333 So this week we're gonna be talking about 36 00:01:15,333 --> 00:01:17,266 some some pretty crazy stuff. For 37 00:01:17,266 --> 00:01:18,933 example, the the new 38 00:01:18,933 --> 00:01:20,766 ice ad destroy the flood 39 00:01:21,466 --> 00:01:24,233 and also 90% of all steam games 40 00:01:25,233 --> 00:01:27,466 90% of all Windows games will now run on 41 00:01:27,466 --> 00:01:28,866 Linux, which is a huge 42 00:01:29,733 --> 00:01:33,133 Which is a huge deal and robots you can 43 00:01:33,133 --> 00:01:35,333 pre-order one now. Let's talk about it 44 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:37,299 So before we actually get this show 45 00:01:37,299 --> 00:01:39,466 started if you want if you like our 46 00:01:39,466 --> 00:01:41,166 content be sure to 47 00:01:41,166 --> 00:01:42,366 subscribe to us on YouTube 48 00:01:42,366 --> 00:01:43,366 We're trying to hit a 49 00:01:43,366 --> 00:01:44,799 thousand subscribers 50 00:01:45,633 --> 00:01:47,666 Try to thousand subscribers before the 51 00:01:47,666 --> 00:01:49,266 end of this year and 52 00:01:49,266 --> 00:01:49,966 This will help us out 53 00:01:49,966 --> 00:01:51,233 immensely in the YouTube algorithm 54 00:01:51,433 --> 00:01:53,033 even if you're watching if you even if 55 00:01:53,033 --> 00:01:54,733 you just listen to us the the audio 56 00:01:54,733 --> 00:01:56,133 version it'll help us 57 00:01:56,133 --> 00:01:58,099 out greatly and also 58 00:01:58,466 --> 00:02:00,133 Gardner Bryant has a 59 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,500 has a 60 00:02:01,966 --> 00:02:04,133 Blog that we that he runs and I also 61 00:02:04,133 --> 00:02:05,466 published an article there too. I 62 00:02:05,466 --> 00:02:07,200 reviewed a all SSD 63 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,333 NAS, which I think well 64 00:02:09,133 --> 00:02:12,133 Which I think is pretty good. I do use it 65 00:02:12,133 --> 00:02:14,400 every day when I do my video editing 66 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,633 It's a very well-written 67 00:02:16,633 --> 00:02:18,366 article. Thank you Gardner 68 00:02:19,333 --> 00:02:22,666 And of course, hopefully you guys will 69 00:02:22,666 --> 00:02:23,699 continue to tune in to us 70 00:02:23,699 --> 00:02:26,266 that off the console and 71 00:02:26,266 --> 00:02:29,733 we also do have extra content in the 72 00:02:30,366 --> 00:02:33,300 Patreon bonus episodes we column. That's 73 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:34,333 where our spiciest 74 00:02:34,333 --> 00:02:36,966 topics are spiciest takes are 75 00:02:38,699 --> 00:02:40,466 So if you if you're interested in that be 76 00:02:40,466 --> 00:02:42,566 sure to check out our patreon links the 77 00:02:42,566 --> 00:02:43,599 description down below 78 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:48,300 Do it go do it now don't don't 79 00:02:48,566 --> 00:02:50,833 Wait or anything else as you know, we 80 00:02:50,833 --> 00:02:52,633 usually talk about the games 81 00:02:52,633 --> 00:02:54,666 We've played this week and since special 82 00:02:54,666 --> 00:02:56,633 guest bill is here. Let's ask him first. 83 00:02:56,633 --> 00:02:57,066 What have you been 84 00:02:57,066 --> 00:02:57,800 playing this week bill? 85 00:02:58,333 --> 00:03:00,633 I've been playing a game called slots and 86 00:03:00,633 --> 00:03:03,866 daggers, which is a rogue like 87 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,466 slot machine game kind of inspired or 88 00:03:07,466 --> 00:03:10,433 like inspired by Bellatro where you 89 00:03:10,933 --> 00:03:12,433 You start out and you have like these 90 00:03:12,433 --> 00:03:13,900 three slots in front of you 91 00:03:14,533 --> 00:03:16,766 And then you pick three symbols that go 92 00:03:16,766 --> 00:03:18,900 in those slots and then like if a dagger 93 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:20,766 comes up then you do damage if 94 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:24,099 Coin comes up you get it money that you 95 00:03:24,099 --> 00:03:25,699 can then spend it on other 96 00:03:27,266 --> 00:03:30,400 Symbols and if a shield comes up you get 97 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,233 a shield and then you 98 00:03:32,233 --> 00:03:33,333 play through for a while 99 00:03:33,333 --> 00:03:34,900 You defeat a boss by 100 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:36,433 taking turns you spin the slots 101 00:03:37,166 --> 00:03:39,133 Do your damage then they get 102 00:03:39,133 --> 00:03:41,066 a turn after you defeat them 103 00:03:41,199 --> 00:03:43,466 you can buy more symbols to 104 00:03:43,466 --> 00:03:46,133 be used on your slot board and 105 00:03:46,133 --> 00:03:47,833 It's really really 106 00:03:49,466 --> 00:03:52,199 Addictive and fun and 107 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,233 it's it's got this one more 108 00:03:54,833 --> 00:03:55,533 try 109 00:03:56,533 --> 00:03:59,233 Loop to it that that all of these kind of 110 00:03:59,233 --> 00:04:02,199 games have and I just I've been having an 111 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:03,533 absolute blast with it 112 00:04:03,533 --> 00:04:06,133 Have any of you guys played it? I? 113 00:04:06,133 --> 00:04:07,500 Checked out the demo during the next 114 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:09,133 fast, but I didn't realize the full game 115 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:10,033 was out. You're talking 116 00:04:10,033 --> 00:04:10,766 about the full game, right? 117 00:04:11,366 --> 00:04:13,466 Yep, the full game. I didn't realize I 118 00:04:13,466 --> 00:04:14,733 was out. Thanks for 119 00:04:14,733 --> 00:04:16,133 letting me know bill. Yep 120 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:19,866 And I think it's if you have ball pit 121 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,733 You can get it for five bucks or 122 00:04:22,733 --> 00:04:24,600 something. I can't remember the exact 123 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,633 deal, but it's a really 124 00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:27,366 it's a it's a really good game 125 00:04:27,366 --> 00:04:28,566 for a very low price 126 00:04:29,933 --> 00:04:31,066 Does it replace going 127 00:04:31,066 --> 00:04:34,066 gambling at in Vegas I? 128 00:04:34,066 --> 00:04:37,333 Don't really gamble so that's not my jam. 129 00:04:37,333 --> 00:04:39,633 So I like yes, I guess 130 00:04:40,266 --> 00:04:42,533 it doesn't it doesn't feel like gambling 131 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:46,066 it's more just like there's a a 132 00:04:46,066 --> 00:04:48,333 theme to it that 133 00:04:48,666 --> 00:04:50,533 feels like you're 134 00:04:50,933 --> 00:04:53,266 Playing a slot machine, but it's it's not 135 00:04:53,266 --> 00:04:55,966 like you can ever cash out and make money 136 00:04:55,966 --> 00:04:58,566 you eventually get killed by the boss and 137 00:04:58,566 --> 00:05:00,300 you got to start over and 138 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:01,733 Like that's where the 139 00:05:01,733 --> 00:05:03,500 one more try comes in 140 00:05:03,533 --> 00:05:06,266 Now it sounds similar to you know the 141 00:05:06,266 --> 00:05:08,600 house always wins. Yeah, it's just you 142 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,766 know, you don't die in real life 143 00:05:09,766 --> 00:05:12,133 You just go make it be die in 144 00:05:12,133 --> 00:05:14,166 the game. We die in real life 145 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:16,433 That's the ultimate game to 146 00:05:16,433 --> 00:05:17,433 come out in a couple years 147 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:21,899 Did what I didn't plan James 148 00:05:25,333 --> 00:05:26,733 As I proceed to sneeze 149 00:05:26,733 --> 00:05:28,733 sorry I have been playing 150 00:05:29,766 --> 00:05:32,633 Bore lands for on the ps5 with my wife 151 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:34,233 It's what she wanted to do for a 152 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:34,866 birthday, so I was 153 00:05:34,866 --> 00:05:36,666 like okay. We can do that 154 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,733 Pretty good runs pretty good actually 155 00:05:39,233 --> 00:05:41,033 If a fun game definitely 156 00:05:41,033 --> 00:05:42,300 much better than Borderlands 3 157 00:05:43,733 --> 00:05:45,066 But so far 158 00:05:45,533 --> 00:05:47,866 Feels very much like a border lands. I 159 00:05:47,866 --> 00:05:49,000 haven't gotten to any of the parts are 160 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,333 like really funny yet, so 161 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,766 still holding my 162 00:05:53,666 --> 00:05:55,000 Critiques for that 163 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,533 which class did you pick I 164 00:05:57,933 --> 00:06:02,866 What class did I pick they're so I 165 00:06:02,866 --> 00:06:04,233 Picked the one that's a siren 166 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:07,366 And then but I don't remember what the 167 00:06:07,366 --> 00:06:09,633 class name is so those 168 00:06:09,966 --> 00:06:12,433 Just miss the siren. That's just the name 169 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:13,433 of the size in every game 170 00:06:13,433 --> 00:06:15,899 I don't think it's that that she has a 171 00:06:15,899 --> 00:06:16,866 specific name though, 172 00:06:16,866 --> 00:06:18,266 but I picked the siren 173 00:06:18,833 --> 00:06:21,333 Almost picked the big dude the tank, but 174 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:24,233 the one with like the dual axis. Yeah, it 175 00:06:24,233 --> 00:06:25,266 was pretty sick actually 176 00:06:25,266 --> 00:06:26,699 Yeah, he does look pretty sick 177 00:06:28,133 --> 00:06:29,633 Pretty good character lineup so far 178 00:06:29,633 --> 00:06:30,566 But we'll see how the character 179 00:06:30,566 --> 00:06:32,533 development is like they have to go 180 00:06:32,533 --> 00:06:35,733 against bore lands which is just so good 181 00:06:36,633 --> 00:06:37,866 It's the goats 182 00:06:38,333 --> 00:06:40,766 It is it's the it's the one of the best 183 00:06:40,766 --> 00:06:42,800 four-player co-op single players. I've 184 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,466 ever played I love it 185 00:06:45,366 --> 00:06:46,633 And Gardner what have you been playing? 186 00:06:47,433 --> 00:06:49,866 You know what I actually played a game 187 00:06:49,866 --> 00:06:52,766 this week. I went back and revisited 188 00:06:53,033 --> 00:06:54,833 Bioshock on my 360 189 00:06:56,033 --> 00:06:57,933 Like he actually played 190 00:06:57,933 --> 00:07:00,233 it on the 360. Yeah, dude 191 00:07:02,266 --> 00:07:04,566 Yeah, yeah, I have I 192 00:07:04,566 --> 00:07:06,199 have a hacked Xbox out here 193 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:08,899 And I dumped like every one of my games 194 00:07:08,899 --> 00:07:10,733 and I finally finished 195 00:07:10,733 --> 00:07:11,933 that process recently 196 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,933 And I was like now that I've done this I 197 00:07:14,933 --> 00:07:17,133 need to actually play a game and the only 198 00:07:17,133 --> 00:07:18,666 one that actually appealed to me 199 00:07:18,666 --> 00:07:19,466 Was Bioshock 200 00:07:20,266 --> 00:07:22,866 Do you have Ninja Gaiden 2 on 201 00:07:22,866 --> 00:07:24,833 the 360? I don't own that. No 202 00:07:25,233 --> 00:07:27,666 Damn, I have I have my I still have my 203 00:07:27,666 --> 00:07:30,033 copy of Ninja Gaiden 2 somewhere nice 204 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,300 Yeah, I definitely want to check out 205 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:33,666 those ones because I really like those 206 00:07:33,666 --> 00:07:35,166 games on the NES are 207 00:07:35,166 --> 00:07:37,533 they similar haven't I mean 208 00:07:38,066 --> 00:07:40,066 They're not similar in the fact that you 209 00:07:40,066 --> 00:07:41,866 know once 3d and the other the old ones 210 00:07:41,866 --> 00:07:43,033 are 2d but like yeah 211 00:07:43,666 --> 00:07:45,766 They're still like ball bustingly hard 212 00:07:45,766 --> 00:07:46,933 the Ninja Gaiden games. 213 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:49,300 Yeah, I should check those out 214 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:51,166 I haven't but no dude 215 00:07:51,166 --> 00:07:54,366 Bioshock is as good as I remember it 216 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:56,933 which is wild to me because that game 217 00:07:56,933 --> 00:07:58,566 came out when I was like a 218 00:07:58,566 --> 00:08:01,733 young adult and I'm like, I 219 00:08:01,733 --> 00:08:03,000 Don't know a lot of the games that I've 220 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,866 revisited since I you know 221 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:08,566 Have gotten to my 30s 222 00:08:09,066 --> 00:08:11,633 I'm like, dude, I can't believe how kind 223 00:08:11,633 --> 00:08:13,133 of antiquated a lot of these games feel. 224 00:08:13,466 --> 00:08:15,133 Bioshock does not feel antiquated 225 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:17,533 You feel like the controls 226 00:08:17,533 --> 00:08:19,233 you still like the controls 227 00:08:20,666 --> 00:08:23,133 Yeah, I don't feel like I can be 228 00:08:25,033 --> 00:08:26,933 Objective about the controls because they 229 00:08:26,933 --> 00:08:28,300 feel natural and they 230 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:29,233 feel the way I remember 231 00:08:30,633 --> 00:08:33,433 And it doesn't bother me, but I suspect 232 00:08:33,433 --> 00:08:35,433 if I was coming to it for the first time 233 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:37,133 It might they might be 234 00:08:37,133 --> 00:08:38,366 a little less intuitive 235 00:08:39,033 --> 00:08:41,399 Like I love Bioshock and I played the 236 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:42,166 hell out of it when it 237 00:08:42,166 --> 00:08:44,066 came out and like that goes 238 00:08:44,366 --> 00:08:46,666 The moment in that game when I won't 239 00:08:46,666 --> 00:08:48,600 spoil is like one of my 240 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,933 favorite moments in gaming history 241 00:08:50,866 --> 00:08:53,700 Yes, but whenever I go back and play it 242 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:56,166 after having played more modern shooters 243 00:08:57,333 --> 00:08:59,033 Especially on a controller. I'm like, oh 244 00:08:59,033 --> 00:09:02,366 if it feels really I don't like the 245 00:09:02,366 --> 00:09:03,700 layout of the controls 246 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:07,033 it. Oh, it's just as bad. I 247 00:09:07,033 --> 00:09:08,333 Have the benefit of 248 00:09:08,333 --> 00:09:10,966 not playing many games 249 00:09:10,966 --> 00:09:16,166 Every week yeah, like we do we open every 250 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:17,500 episode with what games we've been 251 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:19,600 playing and I don't play games very often 252 00:09:19,733 --> 00:09:21,466 I try I I want to 253 00:09:22,033 --> 00:09:24,399 But I'm so busy that I just don't have 254 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:26,666 the chance. So going back and playing 255 00:09:27,433 --> 00:09:30,033 Bioshock feels as good as it did to me 256 00:09:30,033 --> 00:09:31,333 when I first played it 257 00:09:32,133 --> 00:09:33,533 Well, you know bill, I'm glad you didn't 258 00:09:33,533 --> 00:09:34,966 spoil that because I have a confession 259 00:09:35,633 --> 00:09:37,033 This confessional time 260 00:09:37,666 --> 00:09:39,233 I've never played 261 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,333 Bioshock one two or 262 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:44,100 infinite. Are you kidding dude? 263 00:09:44,833 --> 00:09:47,633 I'm not kidding. There's a lot of crazy. 264 00:09:47,633 --> 00:09:48,633 There's a lot of crazy 265 00:09:48,633 --> 00:09:50,133 confessions to like for example 266 00:09:50,233 --> 00:09:52,133 I've also never played 267 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:53,866 the Mass Effect games 268 00:09:55,033 --> 00:09:56,633 Man, you're missing out 269 00:09:56,633 --> 00:09:59,299 Some of the best from previous 270 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:01,866 generations. Yeah, I told I told Noah 271 00:10:01,866 --> 00:10:03,666 from Steam Big HQ this a while ago and 272 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,000 His reaction was something else 273 00:10:08,866 --> 00:10:10,866 But yeah, I 274 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:13,433 Concur with bill I think like the rip 275 00:10:13,433 --> 00:10:14,899 that that one moment 276 00:10:15,966 --> 00:10:17,899 from Bioshock is like 277 00:10:18,966 --> 00:10:20,933 like in terms of storytelling in games 278 00:10:20,933 --> 00:10:22,666 and I you guys both know that I 279 00:10:22,833 --> 00:10:24,799 Really don't like stories in games either 280 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:28,566 But Bioshock does it so effectively that 281 00:10:28,566 --> 00:10:31,399 it's like I mean it makes kind of like 282 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:32,266 the waiting around 283 00:10:32,266 --> 00:10:33,233 for the story to get out 284 00:10:33,233 --> 00:10:33,799 of my way 285 00:10:34,899 --> 00:10:37,033 Worthwhile and I really enjoyed that 286 00:10:37,533 --> 00:10:38,466 That's the thing you you 287 00:10:38,466 --> 00:10:39,333 don't have to wait around 288 00:10:39,433 --> 00:10:41,666 Because the story like you pick up it 289 00:10:41,666 --> 00:10:43,399 through like the audio samples and then 290 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:45,133 they're playing while you're walking 291 00:10:45,166 --> 00:10:46,833 From one place to the next so you're 292 00:10:46,833 --> 00:10:48,166 never waiting around and 293 00:10:48,166 --> 00:10:49,299 sitting in at a cutscene 294 00:10:50,133 --> 00:10:52,433 Right like there's the intro cutscene and 295 00:10:52,433 --> 00:10:55,033 then most like most of the rest of it 296 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:58,033 There aren't cutscenes except for like a 297 00:10:58,033 --> 00:10:59,299 couple little moments 298 00:10:59,299 --> 00:11:00,166 But that's the thing like 299 00:11:00,166 --> 00:11:01,266 when it comes to stories in games 300 00:11:01,466 --> 00:11:03,633 I'm more in like the valve camp right 301 00:11:03,633 --> 00:11:04,966 where it's like I don't want the story to 302 00:11:04,966 --> 00:11:06,600 get in the way of the gameplay 303 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,799 And that's one of the things that I 304 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:10,266 really love about Bioshock story 305 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,700 Yes, so in terms of what I've been 306 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:14,566 playing this week though 307 00:11:14,566 --> 00:11:16,666 I've been revisiting some I've been 308 00:11:16,666 --> 00:11:19,366 revisiting Halo more specifically some 309 00:11:19,366 --> 00:11:21,766 Halo mods because there was so 310 00:11:22,133 --> 00:11:24,333 Basically Halo exploded when the remake 311 00:11:24,333 --> 00:11:26,433 was announced and one person mentioned 312 00:11:26,433 --> 00:11:28,033 that someone was making a Halo 313 00:11:28,633 --> 00:11:31,733 Kamba evolved remake but in Halo ODST's 314 00:11:31,733 --> 00:11:35,933 engine as a mod and so I 315 00:11:35,933 --> 00:11:37,766 Want to check it out, but the mod got 316 00:11:37,766 --> 00:11:40,200 taken down by the author because they 317 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,866 were getting harassed 318 00:11:40,866 --> 00:11:41,733 which is unfortunate 319 00:11:45,866 --> 00:11:48,833 Yeah, hope they hope they're able to get 320 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:50,399 it back up man toes internet sucks 321 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:52,233 sometimes but it's not worth 322 00:11:52,866 --> 00:11:54,133 removing everything you've made 323 00:11:55,933 --> 00:11:58,233 But uh, I guess this transitions to the 324 00:11:58,233 --> 00:12:00,633 very first topic that we have here 325 00:12:00,633 --> 00:12:02,333 finishing this fight 326 00:12:02,866 --> 00:12:03,966 destroy the flood 327 00:12:04,566 --> 00:12:06,799 join ice gov 328 00:12:08,033 --> 00:12:11,066 Is that not isn't that crazy that they'll 329 00:12:11,066 --> 00:12:12,166 just do this that the 330 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:13,233 government can just do this 331 00:12:14,366 --> 00:12:15,399 Well, they can't 332 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:17,066 technically but they can't 333 00:12:17,066 --> 00:12:18,066 clearly 334 00:12:20,299 --> 00:12:22,833 McCleary Microsoft hasn't said anything 335 00:12:22,833 --> 00:12:24,966 as of the making of this episode right 336 00:12:24,966 --> 00:12:26,333 now. They still haven't said 337 00:12:26,333 --> 00:12:27,466 anything officially speaking 338 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:31,200 They probably won't yeah, they probably 339 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,733 won't at least Nintendo came up and said 340 00:12:32,733 --> 00:12:33,966 oh we didn't authorize this 341 00:12:33,966 --> 00:12:35,100 but you know Nintendo's Nintendo 342 00:12:36,833 --> 00:12:37,766 but uh 343 00:12:38,066 --> 00:12:39,933 But the way that attend like the way they 344 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:40,866 did the Pokemon song 345 00:12:40,866 --> 00:12:41,533 and all that that was 346 00:12:42,533 --> 00:12:44,666 That was pretty crazy. That was pretty 347 00:12:44,666 --> 00:12:47,233 atrocious. It's just like using a child's 348 00:12:47,233 --> 00:12:49,766 a children's game and theme to 349 00:12:50,466 --> 00:12:52,299 Say hey, we're we're gonna catch people 350 00:12:52,833 --> 00:12:55,066 Yes, like, okay 351 00:12:56,799 --> 00:12:57,600 Mixing 352 00:12:58,033 --> 00:12:59,066 Politicians and video 353 00:12:59,066 --> 00:13:00,533 games like okay, it's okay 354 00:13:00,533 --> 00:13:02,899 It's one thing if like a politician likes 355 00:13:02,899 --> 00:13:04,866 video games night for sure. Whatever. 356 00:13:04,866 --> 00:13:06,166 It's another thing if 357 00:13:06,166 --> 00:13:08,033 you do shit like this 358 00:13:08,433 --> 00:13:10,933 Or do what Hillary Clinton did like all 359 00:13:10,933 --> 00:13:13,566 those years ago and say Pokemon go to the 360 00:13:13,566 --> 00:13:14,933 polls. Remember that those 361 00:13:14,933 --> 00:13:16,566 are entirely different levels 362 00:13:16,866 --> 00:13:17,966 They are entirely 363 00:13:17,966 --> 00:13:20,266 different. I think they're 364 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:24,333 But whereas the Hillary Clinton one was 365 00:13:24,333 --> 00:13:25,100 just kind of cringe 366 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:27,266 this one is just it's fun 367 00:13:27,266 --> 00:13:29,133 It's it's really fucked up to if you're 368 00:13:29,133 --> 00:13:30,100 only thinking about it 369 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:32,566 Have you seen yeah 370 00:13:32,566 --> 00:13:33,933 There's a little bit further down with 371 00:13:33,933 --> 00:13:35,166 the White House and these are both 372 00:13:35,166 --> 00:13:37,133 official channels that normally are very 373 00:13:37,133 --> 00:13:38,366 professional in the past 374 00:13:38,566 --> 00:13:39,366 And they're just 375 00:13:39,366 --> 00:13:41,233 completely co-opted dude. So 376 00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:43,500 Yeah, this just got that 377 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:46,200 yellow AI piss filter that that 378 00:13:46,733 --> 00:13:49,200 Dude, it's insane what happened to AI art 379 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,866 man. It's all yellow piss filters now. I 380 00:13:52,866 --> 00:13:55,366 Like and I will get a little political 381 00:13:55,366 --> 00:13:57,233 here, but it's it's all true 382 00:13:57,466 --> 00:13:59,066 the he he's a 383 00:13:59,666 --> 00:14:02,633 Draft dodger, right? He did not he dodged 384 00:14:02,633 --> 00:14:04,600 the draft but he's in a military uniform 385 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,833 and all that. I think it's very 386 00:14:06,666 --> 00:14:07,266 funny 387 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:09,866 Yeah, well, I think that this kind of 388 00:14:09,866 --> 00:14:11,733 speaks to who they want 389 00:14:11,733 --> 00:14:13,700 to be part of ice as well 390 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:16,566 Like they think that this is going to 391 00:14:17,166 --> 00:14:18,866 Like appeal to 392 00:14:20,166 --> 00:14:21,366 You know gamers 393 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,866 But like like I think most people are 394 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:27,266 seeing like through this. I 395 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:28,433 mean as like a transparent 396 00:14:28,566 --> 00:14:31,433 I don't know. It just seems so 397 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,066 like beyond the pale silly 398 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:35,500 that 399 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,533 Man, I don't even have words for to 400 00:14:38,533 --> 00:14:40,100 describe it. But then this also comes 401 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:41,700 from Trump who has been 402 00:14:42,733 --> 00:14:43,833 Decidedly 403 00:14:44,733 --> 00:14:46,533 against violent video games 404 00:14:47,966 --> 00:14:49,533 You know no consistency 405 00:14:50,333 --> 00:14:52,866 He's not against anything other than him 406 00:14:52,866 --> 00:14:54,466 not having money. That's the 407 00:14:54,466 --> 00:14:55,833 only thing he's against. Yeah 408 00:14:56,066 --> 00:14:56,666 Yeah 409 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,200 so 410 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,166 We have had people comment on it, 411 00:15:01,166 --> 00:15:02,733 especially people that worked on Halo 412 00:15:04,266 --> 00:15:04,933 See 413 00:15:06,766 --> 00:15:07,733 Mario Donald 414 00:15:08,466 --> 00:15:11,733 Reactive the ice at he says if he wins he 415 00:15:11,733 --> 00:15:13,333 will quote work with the Trump 416 00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:14,233 administration to destroy 417 00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:15,466 the flood once and for all 418 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:19,466 So for those who don't know who didn't 419 00:15:19,466 --> 00:15:20,433 know apparently mark 420 00:15:20,433 --> 00:15:22,333 Mario Donald tried to run for 421 00:15:23,133 --> 00:15:26,133 Nevada's congressional seat. Yeah, and he 422 00:15:26,133 --> 00:15:28,133 lost because no one knows 423 00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:29,633 what the fuck his policies are 424 00:15:29,866 --> 00:15:31,033 Like 425 00:15:32,666 --> 00:15:34,466 No offense to him, but I don't know I 426 00:15:34,466 --> 00:15:35,299 don't think there's really 427 00:15:35,299 --> 00:15:36,666 much of a crossover between 428 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:39,000 video game composer and politician 429 00:15:39,566 --> 00:15:40,100 right 430 00:15:41,666 --> 00:15:43,566 Well nowadays who knows 431 00:15:44,433 --> 00:15:46,633 Yeah among the ones that we do know 432 00:15:46,733 --> 00:15:49,566 Let's see Marcus Leto co-creator of Halo 433 00:15:49,566 --> 00:15:51,066 and the lead designer of Master Chief 434 00:15:51,066 --> 00:15:53,733 said that he found it absolute abhorrent 435 00:15:54,233 --> 00:15:55,500 It makes me sick seeing 436 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:56,566 Halo co-opted like this 437 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Yeah, he doesn't work for 438 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,833 Microsoft anymore, right I 439 00:16:01,833 --> 00:16:04,133 Don't believe so. I'm looking up actually 440 00:16:04,133 --> 00:16:05,399 because I'm gonna I'm 441 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:06,866 gonna guess that you know 442 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:08,866 Microsoft will keep their mouth shut 443 00:16:08,866 --> 00:16:11,233 because they might need something 444 00:16:12,233 --> 00:16:13,799 Well government contracts Microsoft is 445 00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:14,933 really big with 446 00:16:14,933 --> 00:16:16,899 government contracts. So I mean 447 00:16:16,899 --> 00:16:20,866 anything they yank the anti ice app off 448 00:16:20,866 --> 00:16:22,833 of the phones because they were told by 449 00:16:22,833 --> 00:16:24,100 the government because they 450 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:25,500 like the tech companies want to 451 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:26,366 Make sure that the 452 00:16:26,366 --> 00:16:28,399 government would approve of their 453 00:16:29,233 --> 00:16:31,966 Mergers and acquisitions. Yeah, see 454 00:16:31,966 --> 00:16:35,266 Marcus Leto works at EA now, so he's not 455 00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:36,766 a Microsoft anymore, right? 456 00:16:36,766 --> 00:16:37,500 So that's why you can 457 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:38,833 say whatever we want. Yeah 458 00:16:38,833 --> 00:16:46,566 Halo veteran 459 00:16:47,666 --> 00:16:49,733 Jamie Gressamer was a Jaime 460 00:16:49,733 --> 00:16:52,033 I don't know one of the chief designers 461 00:16:52,033 --> 00:16:54,133 of several games and sees halo was a 462 00:16:54,133 --> 00:16:55,133 cultural icon and anything 463 00:16:55,633 --> 00:16:57,633 Anything like anything with cultural 464 00:16:57,633 --> 00:16:59,933 capital it is going to be used by 465 00:16:59,933 --> 00:17:01,133 politicians and brands and 466 00:17:01,133 --> 00:17:02,266 anyone looking for relevancy 467 00:17:02,266 --> 00:17:03,500 He told me 468 00:17:04,633 --> 00:17:05,666 Usually I take out as a cop 469 00:17:05,666 --> 00:17:07,466 but to halos continuing legacy 470 00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:11,066 Using halos imagery in a call to quote 471 00:17:11,066 --> 00:17:12,933 and destroy people because of their 472 00:17:12,933 --> 00:17:15,299 immigration status and goes way too far 473 00:17:15,299 --> 00:17:18,000 And not to a friend every halo fan 474 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,833 regardless of political orientation 475 00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:22,566 Gressamer said I personally find it 476 00:17:22,566 --> 00:17:25,200 despicable the flood are an evil space 477 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,733 our evil spaces on the 478 00:17:26,733 --> 00:17:27,966 parasites are not an allegory 479 00:17:27,966 --> 00:17:29,466 to any group of people 480 00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:33,866 Yeah, I think that's my biggest thing is 481 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,633 With the destroy the flood is everything 482 00:17:36,633 --> 00:17:37,799 else. I'm like, okay, whatever 483 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:39,566 I don't care if you want like that's up 484 00:17:39,566 --> 00:17:41,766 to Microsoft to defend their IP. It 485 00:17:41,766 --> 00:17:43,200 doesn't really ruin much for me 486 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,933 I'm I already can't think 487 00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:47,500 any lower of Trump. So but this 488 00:17:48,133 --> 00:17:50,766 Destroy the flood is so 489 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,966 Veiled in what the meaning could 490 00:17:53,966 --> 00:17:56,633 potentially be I really hate it because 491 00:17:56,633 --> 00:17:58,833 in halos the flood are 492 00:17:59,766 --> 00:18:01,333 one of the worst zombie 493 00:18:02,533 --> 00:18:03,366 Creatures that you can 494 00:18:03,366 --> 00:18:04,866 find in any video game, right? 495 00:18:04,866 --> 00:18:07,333 They spread so poor like so bad and all 496 00:18:07,333 --> 00:18:08,433 that and I just don't 497 00:18:08,433 --> 00:18:09,299 like they could have said 498 00:18:09,866 --> 00:18:11,133 And they could have just been like hey 499 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:12,166 join the fight or whatever 500 00:18:12,166 --> 00:18:13,766 and just be in the the warthog 501 00:18:13,766 --> 00:18:15,066 but they had to say destroy 502 00:18:15,066 --> 00:18:16,833 the flood in there and that is 503 00:18:17,833 --> 00:18:21,033 Very in my opinion coded see I didn't 504 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:22,466 even like draw that 505 00:18:22,466 --> 00:18:24,599 parallel. I took it at like 506 00:18:25,033 --> 00:18:27,500 Like base value where they say like 507 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:28,466 immigrants are flooding 508 00:18:28,466 --> 00:18:29,733 the country or whatever 509 00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:34,333 But but that yeah, that is exactly what 510 00:18:34,333 --> 00:18:35,666 they're saying like they're they're 511 00:18:35,666 --> 00:18:37,233 parasites. They're you know 512 00:18:37,733 --> 00:18:39,500 Yeah, that's what they do say behind 513 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:41,400 closed doors or even sometimes an open 514 00:18:41,733 --> 00:18:44,299 Doors is that they do say parasites to go 515 00:18:44,299 --> 00:18:45,066 and look at a lot of them 516 00:18:46,066 --> 00:18:46,966 Even 517 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:51,066 Rallies yeah, it's 518 00:18:51,633 --> 00:18:51,933 pretty 519 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:55,966 Apparently what they think and maybe they 520 00:18:55,966 --> 00:18:57,133 don't understand what destroy 521 00:18:57,133 --> 00:18:59,533 the flood really means but it 522 00:18:59,833 --> 00:19:03,833 There are plenty of gamers that do get 523 00:19:03,833 --> 00:19:05,433 that they might be like, okay cool 524 00:19:05,433 --> 00:19:07,000 They're really behind me and I'm gonna 525 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,966 it's just we're at this weird turning 526 00:19:08,966 --> 00:19:09,700 point. I just don't 527 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:11,500 want to see people go more 528 00:19:12,466 --> 00:19:14,533 Not z-esque with this type of 529 00:19:14,533 --> 00:19:17,233 rhetoric. I gotta say man. Halo 530 00:19:17,666 --> 00:19:20,166 The IP has been having such a rough time 531 00:19:20,166 --> 00:19:22,466 in recent years and this really doesn't 532 00:19:22,466 --> 00:19:23,466 help it either to be honest 533 00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:26,666 I feel like Microsoft had we been in a 534 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,433 different administration would have 535 00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:30,866 defended their baby, but you know, yeah 536 00:19:30,966 --> 00:19:34,333 Well, I mean now ice is an Xbox. So it's 537 00:19:34,333 --> 00:19:35,766 good for Microsoft, right? Damn 538 00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:38,233 Yeah, he's an Xbox 539 00:19:38,833 --> 00:19:39,866 Everything's an Xbox 540 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:42,033 uh 541 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:45,966 It's disgusting 542 00:19:46,433 --> 00:19:48,066 So someone pointed out 543 00:19:48,066 --> 00:19:50,766 that this AI flag back here 544 00:19:51,366 --> 00:19:55,000 Doesn't have 50 stars because you know, 545 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,833 it's supposed to represent each state 546 00:19:57,933 --> 00:19:58,366 40 547 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,933 Something like 10 and so there's the CD 548 00:20:01,933 --> 00:20:03,466 someone's succeeding for the Union 549 00:20:04,333 --> 00:20:04,866 hmm 550 00:20:06,133 --> 00:20:08,766 But yeah is just or I mean all AI does is 551 00:20:08,766 --> 00:20:09,700 just ripped off other 552 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:11,566 people's work and then 553 00:20:12,133 --> 00:20:13,866 Post it as your own 554 00:20:15,766 --> 00:20:17,666 There's so many flags though it should 555 00:20:17,666 --> 00:20:19,200 get the flag right that's why I'm kind of 556 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,066 shocked by it must 557 00:20:20,066 --> 00:20:22,000 have processed a lot of 558 00:20:22,866 --> 00:20:25,466 Confederate flags or Confederacy kind of 559 00:20:25,466 --> 00:20:27,833 stuff or something. So we had you're not 560 00:20:27,833 --> 00:20:28,500 probably not wrong 561 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,433 about that. We had it I 562 00:20:31,433 --> 00:20:34,133 I was in a location and there was a TV 563 00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:35,333 that was playing like 564 00:20:36,433 --> 00:20:38,733 It looked like just like some AI 565 00:20:38,733 --> 00:20:40,500 generated images as like 566 00:20:40,733 --> 00:20:43,066 Something to look at or whatever and when 567 00:20:43,066 --> 00:20:43,833 you just look at it out 568 00:20:43,833 --> 00:20:44,766 of the corner of your eye 569 00:20:44,766 --> 00:20:46,633 You don't realize that it's AI 570 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,933 but then 571 00:20:48,633 --> 00:20:50,466 My friend who was there he just points 572 00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:51,799 that he goes those two cars 573 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:53,133 just drove through each other 574 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:55,466 And I turned and I looked and yep, they 575 00:20:55,466 --> 00:20:57,900 absolutely did and so like 576 00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:01,866 There's a million cars or flags to 577 00:21:02,366 --> 00:21:06,900 to pull from AI just sucks and 578 00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:08,166 all it does is 579 00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:10,133 Increase the temperature of the planet 580 00:21:10,133 --> 00:21:14,333 for no good reason and it shouldn't like 581 00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:17,099 we should just get rid of that shit and 582 00:21:17,099 --> 00:21:18,566 That's what that's what that's why 583 00:21:18,566 --> 00:21:21,733 there's 40 stars on that. I 584 00:21:21,733 --> 00:21:22,000 think 585 00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:26,066 Yeah, well, they don't it like AI doesn't 586 00:21:26,966 --> 00:21:30,066 Have any critical ability and it doesn't 587 00:21:30,066 --> 00:21:32,433 think and it's not concerned about detail 588 00:21:32,566 --> 00:21:35,733 All it is is an algorithm that 589 00:21:36,466 --> 00:21:36,900 produces 590 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:38,366 likely 591 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,533 Outcomes, right? Like it's 592 00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:41,900 it's literally just like a 593 00:21:42,433 --> 00:21:44,266 It's predictive text on your phone 594 00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:46,966 But with like a billion GPUs behind it 595 00:21:46,966 --> 00:21:48,733 and it's like it doesn't 596 00:21:48,733 --> 00:21:50,599 really care about anything 597 00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:52,566 It has no concern even 598 00:21:52,566 --> 00:21:53,766 like the the self-preservation 599 00:21:53,966 --> 00:21:58,033 Like the emergent self-preservation stuff 600 00:21:58,033 --> 00:21:59,633 is a load of horseshit 601 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,599 It just has to do with the prompting and 602 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:04,299 the context window and it's 603 00:22:04,299 --> 00:22:05,500 training data and that's it 604 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,366 It's not thinking it's not capable of 605 00:22:07,366 --> 00:22:10,500 rational thought. It's not even AI 606 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:13,033 It is just predictive text and or in the 607 00:22:13,033 --> 00:22:14,099 case of generative AI 608 00:22:14,099 --> 00:22:15,599 it's predictive pixels 609 00:22:16,433 --> 00:22:17,533 it's 610 00:22:17,766 --> 00:22:19,066 Sometimes as smart as the person that's 611 00:22:19,066 --> 00:22:20,133 using it and in this case 612 00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:20,933 I don't know what 613 00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:22,866 these is a prompt but yeah 614 00:22:23,299 --> 00:22:24,733 They must have used like a really cheap 615 00:22:24,733 --> 00:22:27,566 model too because I feel like I've had it 616 00:22:27,566 --> 00:22:28,900 print American flags 617 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:30,799 and they got it, right? 618 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,666 And I've had it prints I've done just 619 00:22:33,666 --> 00:22:36,133 mess with AI every once in a while. I'm 620 00:22:36,133 --> 00:22:40,033 part of the problem with the planet but I 621 00:22:40,033 --> 00:22:41,833 Can't I can't help technology throw a 622 00:22:41,833 --> 00:22:42,266 little bit of shiny 623 00:22:42,266 --> 00:22:43,166 technology in front of me 624 00:22:43,166 --> 00:22:45,966 I want to play with it and I don't know 625 00:22:45,966 --> 00:22:46,866 man. I think they've 626 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:48,000 used a really cheap model 627 00:22:48,966 --> 00:22:52,000 AI is best used for those really dumb 628 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,966 menial tasks that you 629 00:22:52,966 --> 00:22:54,233 hate doing like for example 630 00:22:55,099 --> 00:22:58,433 My number one use case for using AI is 631 00:22:58,433 --> 00:23:01,033 getting a list of is like giving a list 632 00:23:01,966 --> 00:23:04,166 Described and then having that turned 633 00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:05,766 into an Excel spreadsheet for me 634 00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:08,733 yeah, that's like the number one use case 635 00:23:08,733 --> 00:23:09,633 that I think it should 636 00:23:09,633 --> 00:23:11,766 be used for because I 637 00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:13,833 Mean, there's no art in making a fucking 638 00:23:13,833 --> 00:23:15,366 spreadsheet, right? 639 00:23:15,366 --> 00:23:16,566 Like no one's getting paid 640 00:23:18,366 --> 00:23:21,033 I was man, but anyways 641 00:23:21,033 --> 00:23:25,833 What I use AI for like in 642 00:23:26,266 --> 00:23:29,000 DaVinci resolve right like to generate a 643 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,666 transcript or to like 644 00:23:31,066 --> 00:23:33,233 Replace my voice if my microphone sucks. 645 00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:34,666 I can like I've already 646 00:23:34,666 --> 00:23:36,066 trained it on my own voice 647 00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:38,133 So I can like pop that in really quick. 648 00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:39,200 I've shown these guys 649 00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:41,566 How I've done that before and 650 00:23:41,566 --> 00:23:43,366 it's kind of spooky accurate 651 00:23:44,033 --> 00:23:47,233 But but like anything cloud-based is just 652 00:23:47,233 --> 00:23:48,700 a waste it doesn't make 653 00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:50,066 your sense local. Yeah 654 00:23:51,299 --> 00:23:52,233 generative AI 655 00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:55,166 Has also led to a 656 00:23:55,166 --> 00:23:57,233 huge issue with you know 657 00:23:57,233 --> 00:23:59,533 Whether with like artists too because you 658 00:23:59,533 --> 00:24:02,466 never know if the you never know if this 659 00:24:02,466 --> 00:24:04,633 artist is actually making their art 660 00:24:04,966 --> 00:24:07,533 Or if it's just an AI doing it for them 661 00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:09,533 And that's my thing you think you meant 662 00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:11,633 to say or if it's AI stealing it for them 663 00:24:12,533 --> 00:24:13,933 Yeah, yes, yes 664 00:24:14,666 --> 00:24:16,066 Good point bill, but 665 00:24:17,266 --> 00:24:18,366 Any content creator I think 666 00:24:18,366 --> 00:24:19,900 deals with that type of stuff 667 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:24,533 Whatever it is like, you know lots of 668 00:24:24,533 --> 00:24:26,666 accusations. Heck I've been accused of 669 00:24:26,666 --> 00:24:28,466 being an AI once probably 670 00:24:28,466 --> 00:24:29,433 because they're a bunch of dumb 671 00:24:29,433 --> 00:24:31,366 haters, but like, you know 672 00:24:31,533 --> 00:24:34,133 same and honestly, it hurts a little bit 673 00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:35,566 extra when you're like 674 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:38,666 Wait, you think I'm a bot or 675 00:24:38,666 --> 00:24:39,966 like an AI like that's crazy 676 00:24:40,833 --> 00:24:43,766 Or maybe I can assure you if I was AI I 677 00:24:43,766 --> 00:24:45,666 would look a lot better 678 00:24:45,666 --> 00:24:53,033 We were all AI we'd 679 00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:56,000 We'd all look a lot better. It'd be like 680 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,633 Photoshop for our faces and stuff 681 00:24:59,633 --> 00:25:01,333 It'd be crazy man those 682 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,633 AI filters that like I 683 00:25:03,633 --> 00:25:05,299 Think James you showed off one like that 684 00:25:05,299 --> 00:25:06,666 like turns you to a woman and that's 685 00:25:06,666 --> 00:25:07,966 crazy. That's crazy, too 686 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,166 Oh my gosh, I did I didn't 687 00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:11,533 do it myself, but that was 688 00:25:12,433 --> 00:25:13,133 Yeah 689 00:25:14,266 --> 00:25:17,533 Man, that is crazy man. We live in a deep 690 00:25:17,533 --> 00:25:19,966 fake era and it's a little scary 691 00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:25,233 Yeah, man, which uh 692 00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:28,200 And all of this runs on Windows, but 693 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,033 honestly, I think Windows is starting to 694 00:25:30,033 --> 00:25:31,633 go the way of the dodo 695 00:25:32,266 --> 00:25:32,666 because 696 00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:36,266 90% of all Windows games now run on Linux 697 00:25:38,733 --> 00:25:39,133 Hell yeah 698 00:25:41,233 --> 00:25:43,833 So, of course this isn't just steam deck 699 00:25:44,566 --> 00:25:46,666 This is all of Linux because of course 700 00:25:46,666 --> 00:25:48,066 the steam deck is not the only Linux 701 00:25:48,066 --> 00:25:48,766 device out there. 702 00:25:48,766 --> 00:25:49,599 It's the most popular one 703 00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,033 Sure. Well, it's in thanks to wine and 704 00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:54,633 proton, right? Yeah wine and proton runs 705 00:25:54,633 --> 00:25:56,733 on multiple distros. So 706 00:25:57,299 --> 00:25:59,966 Steam OS just makes it is the easiest one 707 00:25:59,966 --> 00:26:00,966 technically, but then we 708 00:26:00,966 --> 00:26:02,033 have bad side and stuff 709 00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:04,466 Yeah, so this also includes games that 710 00:26:04,466 --> 00:26:06,066 probably don't run that well on a steam 711 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:07,333 deck like for example 712 00:26:08,299 --> 00:26:09,933 Dragons dogma I'm still 713 00:26:09,933 --> 00:26:11,200 really salty about that one 714 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,366 But yeah, I mean 715 00:26:17,233 --> 00:26:19,533 According to boiling steam they took 716 00:26:20,333 --> 00:26:22,466 They looked at some data from proton DB 717 00:26:22,466 --> 00:26:24,500 and as you can see here 718 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,266 Look at that just about 90% 719 00:26:32,099 --> 00:26:34,233 It's pretty it's pretty crazy how close 720 00:26:34,233 --> 00:26:35,633 we are to running 721 00:26:35,633 --> 00:26:37,266 every game on Linux. I mean 722 00:26:38,366 --> 00:26:40,433 if all the anti-cheek developers just 723 00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:43,533 Enabled Linux support or made their anti 724 00:26:43,533 --> 00:26:44,933 cheese work properly on Linux 725 00:26:44,933 --> 00:26:48,099 I probably say we'd be closer to like 95% 726 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,200 right it it's gonna happen 727 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,866 I think once we get enough 728 00:26:52,866 --> 00:26:55,033 of the compatibility layer 729 00:26:55,333 --> 00:26:57,166 Solved and we get more and more people 730 00:26:57,166 --> 00:26:58,866 using it because there's more and more 731 00:26:58,866 --> 00:26:59,966 people interested in it 732 00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:01,766 I think you're going to get to the point 733 00:27:01,766 --> 00:27:02,933 where they're gonna have to there 734 00:27:02,933 --> 00:27:04,733 It really comes down to numbers for them 735 00:27:04,733 --> 00:27:06,566 And once you get the numbers they will 736 00:27:06,566 --> 00:27:08,266 convert over and they won't have a choice 737 00:27:09,566 --> 00:27:13,566 Yeah, I would also have to say with that 738 00:27:13,566 --> 00:27:15,200 compatibility number hitting 90% 739 00:27:15,633 --> 00:27:18,333 I really want to like I would like to 740 00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:20,666 have another graph show how it's 741 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,433 How capable the game is like running like 742 00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:25,966 how well performance wise I guess like 743 00:27:25,966 --> 00:27:27,700 how performant is the game 744 00:27:28,633 --> 00:27:30,166 In comparison to that 745 00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:32,066 90% because if it can't run 746 00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:35,099 If you have to run it like on a 40 747 00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:41,033 90 50 90 stuff like that like then I 748 00:27:41,233 --> 00:27:42,833 Don't know if there's if you can count 749 00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,133 that as like completely compatible, but I 750 00:27:45,133 --> 00:27:45,633 would like to start 751 00:27:45,633 --> 00:27:46,766 seeing that graph, too 752 00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:48,900 I don't know that I've really noticed a 753 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,066 Dip in performance when playing games on 754 00:27:52,066 --> 00:27:53,133 Linux versus Windows 755 00:27:53,133 --> 00:27:55,000 usually it's the opposite 756 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,266 I usually get more 757 00:27:56,266 --> 00:27:57,633 performance when I'm playing on Linux 758 00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:01,066 Usually but there are game there are some 759 00:28:01,066 --> 00:28:02,966 games that don't perform as well 760 00:28:02,966 --> 00:28:04,033 It's not I'm not saying 761 00:28:04,033 --> 00:28:04,966 that it's the majority 762 00:28:05,166 --> 00:28:07,633 But it might drop that if you put that 763 00:28:07,633 --> 00:28:09,500 into the ratio on this it'd probably drop 764 00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:10,666 it down to more like an 85 765 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:12,466 80 kind of thing for me at least because 766 00:28:12,466 --> 00:28:14,700 I have run across a couple of games that 767 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:15,299 just don't perform 768 00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:17,866 quite as well on Linux and 769 00:28:18,299 --> 00:28:20,599 But then again that was a year and a half 770 00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,233 ago, so that could have changed 771 00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,433 It can also depend heavily on the actual 772 00:28:25,433 --> 00:28:27,333 type of GPU that you're using 773 00:28:27,766 --> 00:28:30,766 I know there are some games that like 774 00:28:30,766 --> 00:28:32,466 there is like a what was it 775 00:28:32,466 --> 00:28:34,166 was it Nvidia that had like a 30% 776 00:28:35,366 --> 00:28:36,766 performance penalty on Linux 777 00:28:37,566 --> 00:28:40,533 With certain GPUs. I think it was like 778 00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:42,233 their most recent one, but 779 00:28:42,233 --> 00:28:45,066 that's been solved recently and 780 00:28:45,233 --> 00:28:46,966 The other thing is like this chart 781 00:28:48,233 --> 00:28:49,966 the the big 782 00:28:51,233 --> 00:28:52,400 This these numbers 783 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,133 come from proton DB which 784 00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:57,333 Silver is kind of like the like silver 785 00:28:57,333 --> 00:28:59,433 tier which is yellow on this chart is 786 00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:01,633 kind of like the most wishy-washy 787 00:29:01,633 --> 00:29:02,633 In terms of like an 788 00:29:02,633 --> 00:29:04,233 actual performance of a game 789 00:29:05,566 --> 00:29:08,333 At least in my experience so 790 00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:11,666 But the fact that that the yellow tier 791 00:29:11,666 --> 00:29:13,966 seems to be closing the gap to some 792 00:29:13,966 --> 00:29:17,033 degree at least maybe maybe it's 793 00:29:17,666 --> 00:29:19,166 about the same but I 794 00:29:19,166 --> 00:29:21,700 Don't know it just seems like you know 795 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:23,266 more games are falling into the Platinum 796 00:29:23,266 --> 00:29:25,133 and gold tiers which tend to be 797 00:29:26,066 --> 00:29:29,266 the best performing titles obviously for 798 00:29:31,266 --> 00:29:33,633 For this so what is this what is this new 799 00:29:33,633 --> 00:29:34,766 rating system they have here 800 00:29:34,766 --> 00:29:36,266 and I see a little divide here 801 00:29:37,099 --> 00:29:39,933 Um, I'm not a hundred percent sure what 802 00:29:39,933 --> 00:29:42,566 the new rating system is. Yeah, cuz I see 803 00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:44,233 As you can see here 804 00:29:44,233 --> 00:29:45,066 There's a sharp 805 00:29:45,066 --> 00:29:47,200 There's a sharp increase in silver games 806 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400 like after the new rating system was 807 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,366 implemented and only in its you know 808 00:29:52,366 --> 00:29:53,933 like so I see more games 809 00:29:53,933 --> 00:29:56,500 are getting silver rated and 810 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:57,966 More of these silver rated games are 811 00:29:57,966 --> 00:30:00,333 becoming gold and platinum. Alright, so 812 00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:01,400 for those who don't know 813 00:30:02,066 --> 00:30:04,433 Proton DB has their own rating system and 814 00:30:04,433 --> 00:30:05,766 it's all user submitted 815 00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:10,133 So you have platinum which means most of 816 00:30:10,133 --> 00:30:11,633 the users just can just 817 00:30:11,633 --> 00:30:13,233 run the game and play it 818 00:30:13,733 --> 00:30:15,466 then gold is a 819 00:30:16,033 --> 00:30:17,933 That same thing but you know, there might 820 00:30:17,933 --> 00:30:19,099 be some minor things 821 00:30:19,099 --> 00:30:20,500 you have to do silver 822 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:21,933 You got to put in some serious work to 823 00:30:21,933 --> 00:30:23,166 get the game working in it 824 00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:24,733 It's not always performance. Sometimes 825 00:30:24,733 --> 00:30:26,166 it's a matter of installing like 826 00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:28,766 dependencies that it doesn't always, you 827 00:30:28,766 --> 00:30:31,566 know install for some reason and then 828 00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:33,333 honestly, I think big videos and 829 00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:37,066 Yeah, yeah videos one bronze 830 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,533 Honestly, I think for me bronze is like a 831 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:40,533 non-starter for me. I 832 00:30:40,533 --> 00:30:41,900 wouldn't even consider trying it 833 00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:43,666 Yeah, unless you're just the type first 834 00:30:43,666 --> 00:30:46,033 of the try video games on proton and of 835 00:30:46,033 --> 00:30:46,933 course bork does bork, 836 00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:48,266 you know things like some 837 00:30:48,266 --> 00:30:50,033 Games just straight up don't work or 838 00:30:50,033 --> 00:30:51,866 anti-cheat. Of course, that's also 839 00:30:51,866 --> 00:30:53,033 another major consideration 840 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,266 Yeah, I would argue that 841 00:30:57,266 --> 00:31:00,366 like at minimum half of this 842 00:31:00,933 --> 00:31:02,333 bork section right here 843 00:31:03,633 --> 00:31:05,099 Is anti-cheat games 844 00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:08,266 Actually, that's probably fair 845 00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:10,433 Yeah, and I mean it's not as if those 846 00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:12,533 anti it's not as if those games like the 847 00:31:12,533 --> 00:31:14,266 underlying games don't run in proton 848 00:31:14,266 --> 00:31:15,833 It's just they won't let them run 849 00:31:16,299 --> 00:31:17,700 Like i've seen some instances of like 850 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,666 people disabling the anti-cheat in 851 00:31:19,666 --> 00:31:20,766 destiny and playing on 852 00:31:20,766 --> 00:31:22,433 linux until they get banned 853 00:31:23,033 --> 00:31:23,266 Yeah 854 00:31:25,966 --> 00:31:28,666 It can run it so like yeah, it's just a 855 00:31:28,666 --> 00:31:29,733 matter of time before 856 00:31:29,733 --> 00:31:32,333 everyone realizes that uh 857 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,566 Linux is the way to go in the future 858 00:31:37,166 --> 00:31:38,433 Maybe yes 859 00:31:39,666 --> 00:31:42,766 the uh, I will have to say their um 860 00:31:42,766 --> 00:31:44,833 system the rating system and user 861 00:31:44,833 --> 00:31:46,666 submissions like are very subjective 862 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:48,733 in the sense of 863 00:31:49,166 --> 00:31:51,566 What one person's like they could and 864 00:31:51,566 --> 00:31:53,733 even with those tiers because i've had uh 865 00:31:53,733 --> 00:31:54,666 ones where that were 866 00:31:54,666 --> 00:31:55,500 in gold where i'm like 867 00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,266 This should be in silver. You actually 868 00:31:57,266 --> 00:31:58,599 have to do a little bit more 869 00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:00,900 um, and people kind of brush it off and 870 00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:01,566 they rate a lot of them 871 00:32:01,566 --> 00:32:03,766 rated it as um gold but 872 00:32:04,533 --> 00:32:06,833 Updates can also really affect this 873 00:32:06,833 --> 00:32:08,466 you'll see some drops in some of the 874 00:32:08,466 --> 00:32:09,733 stuff when updates come out 875 00:32:09,733 --> 00:32:11,566 So, uh, but it's getting better and you 876 00:32:11,566 --> 00:32:13,233 can see the graph kind of slowly going up 877 00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:15,866 It is getting better. And so we are very 878 00:32:15,866 --> 00:32:17,733 much on a good, uh trend and 879 00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:19,766 uh, I think a lot of 880 00:32:19,766 --> 00:32:21,366 people I mean personally 881 00:32:22,133 --> 00:32:23,633 I do a lot of my gaming on 882 00:32:23,633 --> 00:32:25,233 my steam deck still and it's 883 00:32:25,266 --> 00:32:29,666 You know steam os so and I have almost no 884 00:32:29,666 --> 00:32:31,433 problems with with a few exceptions 885 00:32:32,133 --> 00:32:32,666 um 886 00:32:33,666 --> 00:32:35,400 And in fact it will play some of the 887 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,799 older games better than my windows 11. So 888 00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:41,299 Yeah, I haven't been I 889 00:32:41,299 --> 00:32:42,366 haven't used windows in 890 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:44,733 forever at this point, I mean outside of 891 00:32:44,733 --> 00:32:46,166 like hardware reviews, but 892 00:32:46,766 --> 00:32:47,866 My main gaming ring 893 00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,799 is a linux machine and 894 00:32:49,833 --> 00:32:50,066 I mean 895 00:32:51,433 --> 00:32:53,733 If games don't run on it, then I just 896 00:32:53,733 --> 00:32:55,333 don't play those games. I 897 00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:56,566 have so many games to play 898 00:32:56,566 --> 00:32:57,366 I don't have to worry about 899 00:32:57,366 --> 00:32:59,433 that. Yeah, I mean honestly 900 00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:01,900 You may not ever have to buy another game 901 00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,299 again. You might be satisfied 902 00:33:04,633 --> 00:33:06,400 Honestly, if you go that route, it's it's 903 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,066 a good way to go there is 904 00:33:08,633 --> 00:33:09,133 um 905 00:33:10,133 --> 00:33:13,233 My 3090 doesn't at least when I tried 906 00:33:13,233 --> 00:33:14,433 writing bas light on it, I 907 00:33:14,433 --> 00:33:15,299 think was early this year 908 00:33:15,299 --> 00:33:17,500 It just was having issues with my 3090. 909 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:18,466 So I had to switch back to windows 910 00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:20,366 um, but 911 00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:25,333 Yeah, I do want to switch fully over it's 912 00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:27,033 also hard to do game development 913 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,533 Even on my I have a mac that's pretty 914 00:33:29,533 --> 00:33:30,133 good at it, but it 915 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,366 still has some issues. It's 916 00:33:32,566 --> 00:33:34,733 For at least uh unreal engine. So it's 917 00:33:34,733 --> 00:33:36,200 really hard for me to jump over but I 918 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,266 want to get out of windows 919 00:33:38,366 --> 00:33:41,366 Yeah, I do too. Uh, hopefully one day 920 00:33:42,133 --> 00:33:43,466 So gardener you said that they were 921 00:33:43,466 --> 00:33:46,233 fixing up issues with linux on uh 922 00:33:46,233 --> 00:33:47,966 With with nvidia and linux, right? 923 00:33:48,633 --> 00:33:50,566 Yeah, have they fixed the issue where 924 00:33:50,566 --> 00:33:53,266 game scope and you know subsequently game 925 00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:53,966 mode doesn't really 926 00:33:53,966 --> 00:33:54,966 work that well with linux 927 00:33:55,666 --> 00:33:57,200 Uh, I don't know the answer to that 928 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,266 actually, uh, I would imagine there that 929 00:33:59,266 --> 00:34:00,066 progress has at least 930 00:34:00,066 --> 00:34:01,233 been made but I i'm not 931 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,133 Sure on that. Yeah, because I I mean I 932 00:34:03,133 --> 00:34:04,833 feel like that's the main reason why 933 00:34:05,433 --> 00:34:06,500 We haven't seen 934 00:34:06,933 --> 00:34:09,300 A steam os release because like amd I 935 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,666 think comprises only like 8 936 00:34:10,666 --> 00:34:13,166 of the whole gaming gpu market 937 00:34:14,066 --> 00:34:15,566 And releasing a os that 938 00:34:15,566 --> 00:34:17,400 only works on 8 percent of 939 00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:20,966 All pc hardware out there doesn't sound 940 00:34:20,966 --> 00:34:22,066 like a great idea to be honest 941 00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:25,966 You know what guys a four trillion dollar 942 00:34:25,966 --> 00:34:27,633 or a five trillion dollar company that's 943 00:34:27,633 --> 00:34:29,000 that's actually a news item. I don't know 944 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,699 if we're covering but 945 00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,099 nvidia is five trillion dollars now, they 946 00:34:33,099 --> 00:34:35,833 are worth five trillion dollars 947 00:34:36,233 --> 00:34:37,466 Are they though? 948 00:34:38,433 --> 00:34:39,766 Yes, it's it's artificial 949 00:34:40,466 --> 00:34:42,366 It is but it is still 950 00:34:42,366 --> 00:34:43,466 crazy that they're worth 951 00:34:44,466 --> 00:34:46,833 Five trillion dollars and they can't we 952 00:34:46,833 --> 00:34:48,400 can't have decent drivers 953 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,666 for uh linux because you know 954 00:34:52,666 --> 00:34:56,533 Well because somehow linux 955 00:34:56,533 --> 00:34:58,866 eats into their profits, duh 956 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,500 I don't know how but it somehow does well 957 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:04,199 paying you know one engineer to work on 958 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:06,966 linux kernel version uh linux driver 959 00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:08,599 Uh, you know definitely 960 00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:09,333 eats into their product 961 00:35:10,233 --> 00:35:12,300 Well, you know, I hear amd is looking to 962 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,066 I mean I hear nvidia is looking to 963 00:35:14,066 --> 00:35:16,533 replace that engineer with ai 964 00:35:17,766 --> 00:35:19,533 Probably yeah, it probably has anyone 965 00:35:19,533 --> 00:35:21,199 checked on them. They said they have a 966 00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,633 whole basement stock price 967 00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:24,133 full of these developers dead 968 00:35:24,466 --> 00:35:26,666 We don't know. Yeah, sorry 969 00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:28,400 so speaking of which the amd 970 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,633 recently faced some criticism for 971 00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:33,933 trying to cut uh 972 00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:35,733 Trying to cut support 973 00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:37,333 for like the old rdna tgpu 974 00:35:38,233 --> 00:35:40,866 Old like yeah, there's their most recent 975 00:35:40,866 --> 00:35:43,633 rdna 2 gpu is only three years old. So 976 00:35:44,466 --> 00:35:45,966 That's really a shitty move 977 00:35:46,566 --> 00:35:47,466 Yeah, so 978 00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:51,066 People got and they fucking amd thinks 979 00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,233 they're on top of the world when they're 980 00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:54,333 only 8 of the market last i recall 981 00:35:55,533 --> 00:35:56,300 I would expect I would 982 00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:57,433 expect this shit from nvidia 983 00:35:59,033 --> 00:36:00,933 Well hold up amd is 984 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,033 Much bigger in the gaming world in my 985 00:36:04,033 --> 00:36:05,366 opinion than nvidia 986 00:36:05,366 --> 00:36:07,433 technically because of all the 987 00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:10,166 Uh mobile and console devices that 988 00:36:10,166 --> 00:36:12,066 they're a part of they're massive like I 989 00:36:12,066 --> 00:36:13,133 get that they make switch 990 00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:14,766 and switch too. They make 991 00:36:14,966 --> 00:36:17,533 Um the chips for the playstation. They 992 00:36:17,533 --> 00:36:18,733 make the chips for the 993 00:36:18,733 --> 00:36:21,133 The switches and the 994 00:36:21,133 --> 00:36:22,533 switches that's nvidia 995 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:24,599 Which yeah, that's actually 996 00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:25,766 oh, yeah, you're right. It is 997 00:36:26,066 --> 00:36:27,800 Sorry, I think nvidia was on 998 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,866 the screen when I said that 999 00:36:29,766 --> 00:36:33,466 Fair enough, uh, but the decision they 1000 00:36:33,466 --> 00:36:34,933 made to like put the 1001 00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:35,833 You know 1002 00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:38,166 rdna 2 devices and whatnot that's 1003 00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:40,099 explicitly pc only not 1004 00:36:40,099 --> 00:36:41,699 necessarily, you know console so 1005 00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:43,300 That's a market where they 1006 00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:45,500 clearly do not dominate in so 1007 00:36:45,766 --> 00:36:46,533 it's a 1008 00:36:47,033 --> 00:36:49,133 It's a bold move from amd to 1009 00:36:49,133 --> 00:36:50,366 do so when they're not even 1010 00:36:50,966 --> 00:36:52,666 When they don't even have double digit, 1011 00:36:52,666 --> 00:36:54,766 uh adoption rates so far 1012 00:36:55,766 --> 00:36:58,066 I mean, I heard the nine thousand cards 1013 00:36:58,066 --> 00:36:59,000 are good, but like 1014 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,033 that's still not enough 1015 00:37:01,266 --> 00:37:03,666 And I feel like the whole gpu pricing 1016 00:37:03,666 --> 00:37:06,366 crisis is also in part due to amd 1017 00:37:06,733 --> 00:37:08,833 That's just capitulating and just pricing 1018 00:37:08,833 --> 00:37:09,966 their stuff similar to 1019 00:37:09,966 --> 00:37:11,466 amd. But like 50 less 1020 00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:14,466 I mean similar to nvidia but 50 less 1021 00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:17,066 That doesn't really make 1022 00:37:17,066 --> 00:37:18,033 it worth it to be honest 1023 00:37:18,866 --> 00:37:20,066 They could definitely dominate more 1024 00:37:20,166 --> 00:37:21,666 That's that's what really weirds mail 1025 00:37:21,666 --> 00:37:23,233 with amd is that they could actually 1026 00:37:23,233 --> 00:37:25,199 dominate and get those numbers up really 1027 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:26,833 quick and and really 1028 00:37:27,266 --> 00:37:29,099 overtake nvidia on the 1029 00:37:29,533 --> 00:37:30,466 pc graphics 1030 00:37:31,133 --> 00:37:34,133 Face because it i'm i'm sorry, but if you 1031 00:37:34,133 --> 00:37:37,666 can uh wreck a similarly, um 1032 00:37:37,766 --> 00:37:39,766 Specced car like with if you have a card 1033 00:37:39,766 --> 00:37:40,900 and you're going let's 1034 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:42,066 say against the 50 70 1035 00:37:42,733 --> 00:37:44,866 um, and you release your uh, your 1036 00:37:45,266 --> 00:37:48,900 90 70 at like 150 less like that's a 1037 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,366 no-brainer even if that that that card 1038 00:37:51,933 --> 00:37:53,633 That nvidia card would actually have to 1039 00:37:53,633 --> 00:37:55,233 have quite a bit more performance, which 1040 00:37:55,233 --> 00:37:58,666 it doesn't to justify the 150 dollars 1041 00:37:59,466 --> 00:38:00,766 But they're just not competing anymore. 1042 00:38:00,766 --> 00:38:02,066 They're kind of being they're trying to 1043 00:38:02,066 --> 00:38:03,766 be competitive but not really 1044 00:38:04,566 --> 00:38:05,900 because no graphics card 1045 00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,533 or no gpu developer or uh 1046 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,133 hardware manufacturer 1047 00:38:11,133 --> 00:38:12,266 Is competitive these days 1048 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,866 Here it's just the thing that really 1049 00:38:15,866 --> 00:38:17,633 pisses me off about amd is that 1050 00:38:18,366 --> 00:38:19,800 They know what they're doing. They know 1051 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,766 what they should be doing. They should be 1052 00:38:21,766 --> 00:38:24,699 making these great cards at a lower price 1053 00:38:25,533 --> 00:38:26,266 And they could 1054 00:38:26,866 --> 00:38:28,666 And i'm not i'm not saying they should or 1055 00:38:28,666 --> 00:38:30,733 could like severely undercut nvidia 1056 00:38:31,666 --> 00:38:33,766 But I feel like that's the only real way 1057 00:38:33,766 --> 00:38:36,033 they're gonna get some market back 1058 00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:38,933 Because no matter what nvidia does gamers 1059 00:38:38,933 --> 00:38:40,233 are just gonna buy them because as we 1060 00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:42,500 know gamers aren't a very disciplined. Uh 1061 00:38:43,133 --> 00:38:45,566 Discipline group, right? Yeah, also don't 1062 00:38:45,566 --> 00:38:47,099 have a lot of choices. They're just it's 1063 00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:49,133 so hard when something's so mainstream 1064 00:38:50,466 --> 00:38:53,233 I mean heck they should release they 1065 00:38:53,233 --> 00:38:53,900 should release a strict 1066 00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,066 halo chip for a desktop because 1067 00:38:56,866 --> 00:38:58,733 That would be sick to be honest 1068 00:38:59,966 --> 00:39:01,533 And I don't mean like one of those many 1069 00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:03,766 desktops that like the frameworks have or 1070 00:39:04,333 --> 00:39:06,033 All the other ones that like other 1071 00:39:06,033 --> 00:39:07,400 reviewers like retro game 1072 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,900 core great guy, by the way 1073 00:39:08,966 --> 00:39:11,566 Uh, he has or something like eta prime 1074 00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:12,833 does like every other video 1075 00:39:13,666 --> 00:39:15,266 I mean like a full-on 1076 00:39:15,433 --> 00:39:17,333 Desktop chip you can install onto 1077 00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:18,966 whatever motherboard you want 1078 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,099 You know what i'm saying 1079 00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:26,199 Yeah, yeah, that's what I want but 1080 00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:28,300 obviously i'm not gonna get what I want 1081 00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:31,266 Um, can I say one more thing about this 1082 00:39:31,266 --> 00:39:32,933 uh chart here? I just 1083 00:39:32,933 --> 00:39:34,466 kind of noticed this 1084 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,366 Um, so if you look at like the actual 1085 00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:39,900 um 1086 00:39:40,466 --> 00:39:42,933 The numbers here at least visually to me. 1087 00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:45,766 It looks like gold silver and bronze 1088 00:39:45,766 --> 00:39:48,133 tiers have mostly remained 1089 00:39:48,866 --> 00:39:49,366 the same 1090 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,800 over over the entire graph 1091 00:39:53,133 --> 00:39:56,033 Where it looks like all of 1092 00:39:56,033 --> 00:39:57,833 the garbage or the borked tier 1093 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,666 Has kind of migrated over 1094 00:39:59,666 --> 00:40:01,400 to the platinum tier, right? 1095 00:40:03,433 --> 00:40:04,666 And and perhaps it's 1096 00:40:04,666 --> 00:40:06,300 like there's that you know 1097 00:40:06,633 --> 00:40:08,333 Some of the borked are are heading into 1098 00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,066 the bronze and then the bronze are going 1099 00:40:10,066 --> 00:40:10,766 into silver and then 1100 00:40:10,766 --> 00:40:11,633 the gold's going into 1101 00:40:11,666 --> 00:40:14,066 Platinum or whatever but it's still like 1102 00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:15,966 the overall trend is 1103 00:40:15,966 --> 00:40:18,033 that fewer and fewer games 1104 00:40:18,566 --> 00:40:19,166 are 1105 00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:20,133 um 1106 00:40:21,433 --> 00:40:24,066 Are like unplayable and more 1107 00:40:24,066 --> 00:40:25,500 and more are becoming platinum 1108 00:40:26,466 --> 00:40:28,666 And I think that speaks to like what 1109 00:40:28,666 --> 00:40:30,133 valve is doing with proton 1110 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:34,133 um, and the the compatibility tools that 1111 00:40:34,133 --> 00:40:37,866 are part of it right like dxbk and bkd3d 1112 00:40:38,366 --> 00:40:38,566 like 1113 00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:39,966 there's just 1114 00:40:40,866 --> 00:40:43,466 At a certain point it's only going to be 1115 00:40:43,766 --> 00:40:44,233 um 1116 00:40:45,466 --> 00:40:46,133 the uh 1117 00:40:46,433 --> 00:40:48,633 The anti-cheat games that are stuck in in 1118 00:40:48,633 --> 00:40:50,166 the borked here and then pretty much 1119 00:40:50,166 --> 00:40:51,866 everything else is just going to be 1120 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:54,166 Gold or or platinum in 1121 00:40:54,166 --> 00:40:54,966 terms of compatibility 1122 00:40:55,833 --> 00:40:56,233 um 1123 00:40:57,033 --> 00:40:58,666 And I I think that's 1124 00:40:58,666 --> 00:41:00,266 freaking cool as a linux user 1125 00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:03,733 I think once they decided to get rid of 1126 00:41:03,733 --> 00:41:05,766 nh or or not get rid of it, but start 1127 00:41:05,766 --> 00:41:06,566 supporting anti-cheat 1128 00:41:07,033 --> 00:41:08,633 for most of these games on 1129 00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:11,166 Linux, we'll see like a big 1130 00:41:11,766 --> 00:41:13,233 um bump up 1131 00:41:13,633 --> 00:41:15,466 Yeah, because those games do play and 1132 00:41:15,466 --> 00:41:17,133 then once they do they'll just they have 1133 00:41:17,133 --> 00:41:18,300 to certify it or the you know 1134 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:19,900 The users have to will be interesting. 1135 00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,566 Yeah, like i'm still on windows 10 even 1136 00:41:22,566 --> 00:41:23,733 though I shouldn't be 1137 00:41:23,733 --> 00:41:25,733 because of uh end of service 1138 00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:28,833 I want to move over to linux one day, but 1139 00:41:28,833 --> 00:41:30,566 the problem but there's a few things, you 1140 00:41:30,566 --> 00:41:32,966 know, the nvidia thing there's also 1141 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:34,833 Also, one more thing too. I should 1142 00:41:34,833 --> 00:41:36,866 mention a lot of people i've noticed a 1143 00:41:36,866 --> 00:41:37,866 lot of people are trying to 1144 00:41:37,866 --> 00:41:39,433 wait for official steam os 1145 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,066 for desktop use too, but like 1146 00:41:43,266 --> 00:41:45,833 I feel but like steam os is made for 1147 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,133 A set top box like it boots into steam 1148 00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:50,666 game mode and if I wanted 1149 00:41:50,666 --> 00:41:52,133 a desktop linux experience 1150 00:41:53,133 --> 00:41:54,566 I feel like that's not what I want. 1151 00:41:54,833 --> 00:41:56,199 That's not what I would want unless valve 1152 00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:56,933 just makes like a separate 1153 00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:58,533 version that boots desktop first 1154 00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:00,533 well, so um 1155 00:42:01,533 --> 00:42:03,566 Back in like the steam os one and steam 1156 00:42:03,566 --> 00:42:05,033 os two days like right 1157 00:42:05,033 --> 00:42:06,099 now we're on steam os three 1158 00:42:06,833 --> 00:42:09,433 Before steam os three there was a gooey 1159 00:42:09,433 --> 00:42:12,866 option in steam that would let you boot 1160 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,466 Directly to the desktop 1161 00:42:14,966 --> 00:42:16,566 Right, you could just check a box and it 1162 00:42:16,566 --> 00:42:18,133 would take you to the desktop and then 1163 00:42:18,133 --> 00:42:18,933 you could log out and it 1164 00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:19,699 would take you to steam 1165 00:42:19,933 --> 00:42:21,666 right, right, um 1166 00:42:22,366 --> 00:42:24,433 That doesn't exist now because valve is 1167 00:42:24,433 --> 00:42:25,366 focused on making 1168 00:42:25,366 --> 00:42:28,366 steam os three for the uh 1169 00:42:28,966 --> 00:42:30,766 Uh for the steam deck, but 1170 00:42:31,533 --> 00:42:33,833 It would be relatively trivial for them 1171 00:42:33,833 --> 00:42:35,866 to add a checkbox in the ui 1172 00:42:35,866 --> 00:42:37,166 that lets you boot into desktop 1173 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,466 um 1174 00:42:40,233 --> 00:42:41,966 So it's not it really 1175 00:42:41,966 --> 00:42:43,233 isn't that big of a deal 1176 00:42:43,366 --> 00:42:45,033 The thing is though you don't have to 1177 00:42:45,033 --> 00:42:46,133 wait like you don't 1178 00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:47,099 have to wait for steam os 1179 00:42:47,433 --> 00:42:50,099 Bazite provides a terrific experience 1180 00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:52,533 And especially if you install it by the 1181 00:42:52,533 --> 00:42:55,133 way when you install bazite it asks you 1182 00:42:55,133 --> 00:42:56,733 Do you want to boot into desktop mode or 1183 00:42:56,733 --> 00:42:58,166 do you want to boot into gaming mode? 1184 00:42:58,966 --> 00:43:00,266 Yes. Yep, and if you have 1185 00:43:00,266 --> 00:43:02,433 a jeep, uh, an nvidia gpu 1186 00:43:02,966 --> 00:43:05,666 um, then it will just directly boot you 1187 00:43:05,666 --> 00:43:08,766 into um into the desktop so 1188 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,833 Yeah, it's 1189 00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:13,533 It is a great experience. Bazite is 1190 00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:15,733 terrific. Uh, it's so 1191 00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:17,066 streamlined especially for 1192 00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:18,733 New users who aren't familiar with linux. 1193 00:43:19,533 --> 00:43:20,833 Um, you don't have to 1194 00:43:20,833 --> 00:43:22,599 drop into the terminal ever 1195 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,733 Like you can get most of the things you 1196 00:43:24,733 --> 00:43:27,933 like any normal everyday windows user 1197 00:43:28,633 --> 00:43:30,233 Everything that they would want to do is 1198 00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:32,633 is pretty much available with a gooey. So 1199 00:43:32,966 --> 00:43:34,833 Yeah, there's no reason I had to use the 1200 00:43:34,833 --> 00:43:35,966 terminal the other day 1201 00:43:36,566 --> 00:43:38,733 Uh, did you what happened? I did I ran 1202 00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:40,833 into an issue on my on my system 1203 00:43:40,866 --> 00:43:44,366 it it would uh, I was trying to boot and 1204 00:43:44,366 --> 00:43:46,666 it would say signing you into 1205 00:43:47,766 --> 00:43:50,033 Steam and it would just hang there. It 1206 00:43:50,033 --> 00:43:50,666 couldn't go anywhere 1207 00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:52,733 So I reached out to the guys that make 1208 00:43:52,733 --> 00:43:54,766 bazite and they were like open the 1209 00:43:54,766 --> 00:43:56,000 terminal and type this command 1210 00:43:56,066 --> 00:43:57,533 So I did that 1211 00:43:58,066 --> 00:43:59,166 And that fixed it 1212 00:43:59,766 --> 00:44:01,866 So I do you still you do still have to go 1213 00:44:01,866 --> 00:44:03,033 into the terminal sometimes 1214 00:44:03,533 --> 00:44:04,900 But guess what? 1215 00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:06,566 There are things that you can do on 1216 00:44:06,566 --> 00:44:07,266 windows where you have 1217 00:44:07,266 --> 00:44:08,166 to go into the terminal 1218 00:44:08,633 --> 00:44:09,933 There are things that you have to do on 1219 00:44:09,933 --> 00:44:11,733 mac os where you go into the terminal 1220 00:44:12,633 --> 00:44:14,066 Most people will never 1221 00:44:14,066 --> 00:44:15,266 have to have that experience 1222 00:44:16,166 --> 00:44:17,066 But I just want to say 1223 00:44:17,066 --> 00:44:18,433 that there are still times 1224 00:44:18,866 --> 00:44:21,233 On linux just so everybody doesn't get 1225 00:44:21,233 --> 00:44:22,533 the wrong expectations where 1226 00:44:22,533 --> 00:44:24,466 you do have to use the terminal 1227 00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:26,933 And it's frustrating when it happens 1228 00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:28,066 because then you have to 1229 00:44:28,066 --> 00:44:29,233 go looking up a command 1230 00:44:29,933 --> 00:44:32,566 And usually i'm looking it up on my phone 1231 00:44:32,566 --> 00:44:34,766 and then typing it on on a keyboard and 1232 00:44:34,766 --> 00:44:35,866 i'm looking and like 1233 00:44:36,266 --> 00:44:36,566 l 1234 00:44:37,533 --> 00:44:39,500 Is the dollar sign, you know, and you're 1235 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,433 like coming up with all this nonsense 1236 00:44:41,433 --> 00:44:43,266 that you're typing and then fingers 1237 00:44:43,266 --> 00:44:44,233 crossed that it works 1238 00:44:46,066 --> 00:44:46,833 I get what you're saying 1239 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:50,166 It just felt to boot up one day is what 1240 00:44:50,166 --> 00:44:51,033 happened to you bill 1241 00:44:51,766 --> 00:44:54,233 Yeah, uh, it I don't know what the issue 1242 00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:55,533 was. I can't remember what 1243 00:44:55,533 --> 00:44:57,233 command I ended up typing 1244 00:44:57,366 --> 00:44:58,400 So if it happens again, 1245 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,099 i'll have to look it up again 1246 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,033 Did you install or do 1247 00:45:02,033 --> 00:45:03,300 an update or anything? 1248 00:45:03,933 --> 00:45:05,566 No, I just hadn't used it for a couple 1249 00:45:05,566 --> 00:45:08,466 days and then I turned because I was busy 1250 00:45:08,466 --> 00:45:09,800 and then when I turned it on 1251 00:45:10,966 --> 00:45:12,800 like it would get to the to the 1252 00:45:13,666 --> 00:45:16,033 The boot screen and I was signed out of 1253 00:45:16,033 --> 00:45:16,933 steam for some reason 1254 00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:18,333 so I signed in again 1255 00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:21,633 And it was like, okay loading user data 1256 00:45:21,633 --> 00:45:24,633 and it couldn't load anything. So then oh 1257 00:45:24,733 --> 00:45:26,000 I killed it 1258 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,599 I killed it and I went to the desktop 1259 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,666 mode and use the terminal to fix it 1260 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,133 It's that sounds like a steam issue to be 1261 00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:36,566 honest not not necessarily a bad light 1262 00:45:36,566 --> 00:45:38,233 issue per se, but I don't know 1263 00:45:38,566 --> 00:45:39,566 Well the other day 1264 00:45:39,566 --> 00:45:41,033 like a couple of days ago 1265 00:45:41,533 --> 00:45:42,833 My steam deck got 1266 00:45:42,833 --> 00:45:44,400 logged out just randomly 1267 00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,233 Of my steam account and I and 1268 00:45:47,233 --> 00:45:49,033 and I also had a similar issue 1269 00:45:49,366 --> 00:45:50,599 um, but when I 1270 00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:52,066 Shut it off and turn it back 1271 00:45:52,066 --> 00:45:54,733 on it. It did come up. But uh 1272 00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:58,000 Yeah, it's very strange that you and I 1273 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,766 both got logged out and had an issue like 1274 00:45:59,766 --> 00:46:01,033 that. I've had to 1275 00:46:01,033 --> 00:46:03,000 repair my steam deck. Um 1276 00:46:03,933 --> 00:46:04,933 From it just not booting up properly 1277 00:46:05,033 --> 00:46:06,766 I mean I could have been when I was 1278 00:46:06,766 --> 00:46:08,433 screwing around with a bunch like 1279 00:46:08,666 --> 00:46:10,066 Uh decky plugins like 1280 00:46:10,066 --> 00:46:11,333 the decky loader. It's 1281 00:46:11,366 --> 00:46:11,833 super 1282 00:46:12,466 --> 00:46:13,133 still not 1283 00:46:13,933 --> 00:46:15,466 a very uh 1284 00:46:15,699 --> 00:46:17,733 It's good. It's it's good, but it's not 1285 00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:20,266 very um, what's where i'm looking stable 1286 00:46:20,866 --> 00:46:22,733 Bazite though, that sounds like more of a 1287 00:46:22,733 --> 00:46:24,766 steam issue and bazite itself is 1288 00:46:26,066 --> 00:46:27,933 Seems fairly stable 1289 00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:30,400 Honestly, I think it's a better 1290 00:46:30,966 --> 00:46:32,866 way to go if you have a desktop pc than 1291 00:46:32,866 --> 00:46:34,866 trying to do anything steam os even if 1292 00:46:34,866 --> 00:46:36,133 you have an amd card but 1293 00:46:37,133 --> 00:46:39,533 Uh those nv2 drivers man. I'll have to 1294 00:46:39,533 --> 00:46:40,633 come back and I have to keep 1295 00:46:40,633 --> 00:46:41,866 I'll have to try it again, but 1296 00:46:42,566 --> 00:46:43,866 Yes, um 1297 00:46:44,766 --> 00:46:46,966 So speaking of which I am curious though 1298 00:46:46,966 --> 00:46:48,266 because you can install 1299 00:46:48,266 --> 00:46:49,599 bazite on the steam deck 1300 00:46:50,066 --> 00:46:51,866 most people probably don't know why you 1301 00:46:51,866 --> 00:46:52,833 would want to do that, but 1302 00:46:53,266 --> 00:46:55,733 I'm wondering if bazite fixed the stupid 1303 00:46:55,733 --> 00:46:56,900 wi-fi issue on the steam 1304 00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:58,699 deck oleds because as you know 1305 00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,800 The steam deck oled has a weird wi-fi 1306 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,933 issue a lot of people reported it 1307 00:47:04,333 --> 00:47:06,833 I have those issues too. I've tried 1308 00:47:06,833 --> 00:47:07,900 almost every fix that 1309 00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:09,000 I could find on reddit 1310 00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:12,333 To no luck i've tried cryobites fixed 1311 00:47:12,333 --> 00:47:14,099 like years ago. That 1312 00:47:14,099 --> 00:47:15,000 also didn't help either 1313 00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:17,900 So i'm wondering if bazite might actually 1314 00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:19,166 be the solution all of this 1315 00:47:20,033 --> 00:47:21,633 If it uses the same drivers, maybe not 1316 00:47:21,633 --> 00:47:23,366 what's what's the problem? 1317 00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:25,366 So I haven't had that problem with my 1318 00:47:25,366 --> 00:47:26,766 oled same. I haven't had that issue 1319 00:47:27,766 --> 00:47:30,033 So I have a mesh network in my house 1320 00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:33,233 and so what's up happening is uh 1321 00:47:33,933 --> 00:47:35,233 It just has real it's 1322 00:47:35,233 --> 00:47:36,833 just really unstable at times 1323 00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:38,266 and when I try to stream 1324 00:47:38,266 --> 00:47:40,533 games from pc to it, it's just 1325 00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:43,266 You forget forget about it 1326 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,066 Forget about it. That might 1327 00:47:45,066 --> 00:47:46,900 be more of a mesh router issue 1328 00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:49,633 I have it too and I have issues with all 1329 00:47:49,633 --> 00:47:51,633 my devices sometimes streaming and I 1330 00:47:51,633 --> 00:47:54,066 unless if the device i'm trying to stream 1331 00:47:54,066 --> 00:47:57,133 Um that i'm streaming from has ethernet 1332 00:47:57,133 --> 00:47:59,133 plugged in then the wi-fi works 1333 00:47:59,133 --> 00:48:01,533 Okay, because I have a portal and until I 1334 00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:03,933 plugged in my playstation 5 1335 00:48:04,566 --> 00:48:06,466 The streaming didn't work very well. So 1336 00:48:06,466 --> 00:48:09,166 and same thing was streaming my uh 1337 00:48:09,699 --> 00:48:11,233 from my uh 1338 00:48:11,466 --> 00:48:14,666 PC to my mac studio. I I couldn't do it 1339 00:48:14,666 --> 00:48:16,233 unless it was plugged into ethernet 1340 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,766 Yeah, I mean 1341 00:48:18,333 --> 00:48:19,033 honestly, man 1342 00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:21,866 I might just go the rat and like build my 1343 00:48:21,866 --> 00:48:23,699 own router and then also use like an 1344 00:48:23,699 --> 00:48:25,933 ubiquity ap to do all that 1345 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,666 Yeah, but like those 1346 00:48:27,666 --> 00:48:29,166 are expensive to be honest 1347 00:48:29,666 --> 00:48:32,466 They're like 115 bucks for one 1348 00:48:32,733 --> 00:48:35,699 Which all true if you get like if you get 1349 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:38,866 uh, if you buy like a high-end aces or 1350 00:48:38,866 --> 00:48:41,333 not high-end aces, but a high-end like 1351 00:48:41,766 --> 00:48:42,433 wi-fi router 1352 00:48:43,133 --> 00:48:44,166 That you're you're talking 1353 00:48:44,166 --> 00:48:45,800 300 bucks. If you get three 1354 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,933 of the uh ubiquity 1355 00:48:47,933 --> 00:48:49,366 routers and you place them 1356 00:48:50,466 --> 00:48:52,833 Around your house you you're in the same 1357 00:48:52,833 --> 00:48:54,033 ballpark financially. 1358 00:48:54,033 --> 00:48:55,733 Yeah, I think yeah, man 1359 00:48:55,733 --> 00:48:57,500 I'd have to build the forbidden router as 1360 00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:59,033 a level one text puts it 1361 00:48:59,666 --> 00:49:01,300 Got to build myself one like 1362 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,566 Hey bill, have you ever considered 1363 00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:04,566 building your own router? 1364 00:49:05,566 --> 00:49:06,633 God, no 1365 00:49:07,133 --> 00:49:08,933 The hell I tell you to build I tell you 1366 00:49:08,933 --> 00:49:10,833 guys to do a lot of things like diy your 1367 00:49:10,833 --> 00:49:12,266 own arcade fight sticks 1368 00:49:12,866 --> 00:49:15,233 Diy what diy my own 1369 00:49:15,233 --> 00:49:16,666 router was a bit of a nightmare 1370 00:49:17,533 --> 00:49:21,199 The most diy I got is I I modified an 1371 00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:24,166 existing arcade and it didn't have 1372 00:49:25,033 --> 00:49:26,199 A joystick because it 1373 00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:27,366 was asteroids deluxe 1374 00:49:28,166 --> 00:49:29,566 And I built like a 1375 00:49:29,566 --> 00:49:31,033 panel for it so that I could 1376 00:49:31,666 --> 00:49:34,333 Play retro games on it, but no i'm not 1377 00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:36,666 building a router. That sounds insane 1378 00:49:37,533 --> 00:49:39,966 Dude legitimately like I 1379 00:49:39,966 --> 00:49:41,966 just used a mini pc with two 1380 00:49:42,866 --> 00:49:45,133 Nicks on it and I installed pf sense 1381 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,333 Done so here's what I did 1382 00:49:48,866 --> 00:49:51,433 With my quote unquote router. So I have a 1383 00:49:51,433 --> 00:49:52,866 blade. I have like a server 1384 00:49:52,866 --> 00:49:54,199 like a rack. It's a server 1385 00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:55,333 That's meant to be on a rack not 1386 00:49:56,566 --> 00:49:58,366 But I think you guys have heard me talk 1387 00:49:58,366 --> 00:49:59,766 about this. I have it on like a filing 1388 00:49:59,766 --> 00:50:00,966 cabinet in the middle 1389 00:50:01,933 --> 00:50:03,599 And it's just hanging off on all ends 1390 00:50:04,066 --> 00:50:04,666 Probably not the 1391 00:50:04,666 --> 00:50:06,333 safest thing but you know 1392 00:50:07,033 --> 00:50:08,233 You've heard of network instability 1393 00:50:09,766 --> 00:50:10,833 But um, so 1394 00:50:11,766 --> 00:50:14,733 I was browsed I was in the 1395 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,800 Home lab discord and they 1396 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,933 told me to try an os called vi os 1397 00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:23,266 It's like a like a free bs 1398 00:50:23,366 --> 00:50:25,500 It's all command line though. You have to 1399 00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:27,733 like program your router all in command 1400 00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:29,333 line. It was hell it worked 1401 00:50:30,233 --> 00:50:31,833 But like i'm not doing that shit again, 1402 00:50:31,833 --> 00:50:32,633 to be honest. Yes, 1403 00:50:32,633 --> 00:50:34,266 that's man or open sounds 1404 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,333 They're both freaking awesome and they 1405 00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:37,533 have a gooey and it's great 1406 00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:39,766 Maybe if I get one of those nasas with 1407 00:50:39,766 --> 00:50:41,533 two nicks, I might consider doing that 1408 00:50:42,133 --> 00:50:43,500 Oh, dude, I got the n5 1409 00:50:44,566 --> 00:50:47,599 You did? Yeah, I got i'm working. I'm 1410 00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:48,933 still working on setting it up. But yeah, 1411 00:50:48,933 --> 00:50:50,966 I got it. It's awesome. Ah, dude 1412 00:50:51,433 --> 00:50:52,566 I gotta get myself one of 1413 00:50:52,566 --> 00:50:53,733 those too one of these days 1414 00:50:54,066 --> 00:50:56,599 Yeah, you know what else we don't need 1415 00:50:57,533 --> 00:50:58,800 What do we not need? We 1416 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,933 don't need robots in our homes 1417 00:51:02,466 --> 00:51:05,033 Dude look at these like felt robots man. 1418 00:51:05,033 --> 00:51:07,000 They don't even look cool. No 1419 00:51:07,266 --> 00:51:10,033 They look like like a irobot in a sock 1420 00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:13,366 They look stupid 1421 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,133 Dude, I don't understand 1422 00:51:15,133 --> 00:51:16,633 the need to make them look 1423 00:51:17,266 --> 00:51:18,466 anthropomorphic like 1424 00:51:19,533 --> 00:51:22,233 I've I i'm fine with my robot vacuum 1425 00:51:22,233 --> 00:51:23,666 looking like a hockey puck 1426 00:51:24,166 --> 00:51:25,500 Dude, they should have made it look like 1427 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:26,766 cyberpunk or like a 1428 00:51:26,766 --> 00:51:28,099 gundam or like doffpunk 1429 00:51:29,133 --> 00:51:31,566 Well, okay, they're not gonna sell very 1430 00:51:31,566 --> 00:51:33,866 well for the average person. This is 1431 00:51:33,866 --> 00:51:34,800 actually a smart 1432 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,466 design because it feels very 1433 00:51:37,166 --> 00:51:37,733 Uh 1434 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,733 Unattrusive or very not dangerous 1435 00:51:41,433 --> 00:51:41,733 um 1436 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,666 And and it's anthropomorphic 1437 00:51:44,666 --> 00:51:46,466 it so that it could do similar 1438 00:51:46,633 --> 00:51:48,166 um things that humans can 1439 00:51:48,166 --> 00:51:49,966 do right like we're a very 1440 00:51:50,633 --> 00:51:52,933 Evolved design for a reason maybe stupid 1441 00:51:52,933 --> 00:51:54,233 in some ways, but very 1442 00:51:54,233 --> 00:51:55,400 evolved for a reason but 1443 00:51:56,566 --> 00:51:57,766 If you want have you watched some of 1444 00:51:57,766 --> 00:51:58,866 these videos for this? 1445 00:51:59,433 --> 00:52:01,533 No, because this this does not appeal to 1446 00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:03,933 me. Oh, it's it's fascinating 1447 00:52:05,133 --> 00:52:07,033 Because it's not very good. So 1448 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,566 The robot is supposed to automate it's 1449 00:52:10,566 --> 00:52:11,633 supposed to like do your 1450 00:52:11,633 --> 00:52:13,366 chores for you which I mean 1451 00:52:14,166 --> 00:52:15,933 Kind of sounds interesting at least 1452 00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:17,833 But like to be honest, the only chore I 1453 00:52:17,833 --> 00:52:18,433 would need to be 1454 00:52:18,433 --> 00:52:20,166 automated is lawn mowing my lawn 1455 00:52:20,633 --> 00:52:22,833 During the summer and they already have 1456 00:52:22,833 --> 00:52:25,699 like I like room rumba style. Thanks for 1457 00:52:25,699 --> 00:52:26,733 your lawn mowing, too 1458 00:52:27,266 --> 00:52:28,366 Yeah, they do have this 1459 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,333 Yeah, I had a yeah, I got 1460 00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:31,599 an email the other day some 1461 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,433 You know those stupid sponsorship emails 1462 00:52:34,433 --> 00:52:35,433 that you constantly get 1463 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,433 And it was it was like hey, we noticed 1464 00:52:38,433 --> 00:52:40,800 that you do a lot of lawn care and I was 1465 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,633 like clearly you didn't watch my stuff 1466 00:52:44,166 --> 00:52:45,766 Because it was for one of those robot 1467 00:52:45,766 --> 00:52:46,966 lawn mower things and 1468 00:52:46,966 --> 00:52:48,133 I was like no, thanks 1469 00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:51,500 Damn, yeah, that's when you ask him for a 1470 00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:52,933 trial. Hey, i'll look at it. Maybe i'll 1471 00:52:52,933 --> 00:52:54,400 do it. Maybe i'll do it 1472 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,366 Do you have yourself a lawnmower? 1473 00:52:56,133 --> 00:52:57,033 Yeah, I love how this 1474 00:52:57,033 --> 00:52:58,233 robot just took a fish 1475 00:52:58,233 --> 00:53:00,266 Lawnmower driving into the lawn into the 1476 00:53:00,266 --> 00:53:01,566 road and causing an 1477 00:53:01,566 --> 00:53:03,333 accident and then I get sued 1478 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,066 Now i'm more worried about my dog barking 1479 00:53:07,066 --> 00:53:08,633 at the lawnmower and then getting ran 1480 00:53:08,633 --> 00:53:10,866 over. I don't want my dog to get fluffed 1481 00:53:11,433 --> 00:53:14,133 I've i've seen uh where basically with 1482 00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:16,733 those outdoor lawnmowers you have to 1483 00:53:17,133 --> 00:53:20,199 Set up a base station and you have to 1484 00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,366 like bury a cable around the perimeter of 1485 00:53:23,366 --> 00:53:24,933 your yard where you want it to 1486 00:53:25,266 --> 00:53:25,833 um 1487 00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:26,966 uh 1488 00:53:27,133 --> 00:53:30,199 Like mow and then it also has to have gps 1489 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:31,833 enabled so that it doesn't 1490 00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:32,766 like go into the road and stuff 1491 00:53:32,866 --> 00:53:35,266 It's it seems insane to me. Well, maybe 1492 00:53:35,266 --> 00:53:37,066 maybe that's a good use for ai 1493 00:53:37,066 --> 00:53:38,966 It can recognize when it's not your lawn 1494 00:53:38,966 --> 00:53:40,766 and it just stops it 1495 00:53:40,766 --> 00:53:42,000 already does like it's ml 1496 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,266 We already have we've had this technology 1497 00:53:44,266 --> 00:53:46,900 for years. It does decent. It's like what 1498 00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,066 if the failure happens, right? 1499 00:53:49,066 --> 00:53:49,733 um 1500 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,433 uh 1501 00:53:50,966 --> 00:53:53,433 Yeah, well, let's go back to this robot. 1502 00:53:53,433 --> 00:53:55,166 Yeah, they gave him 1503 00:53:55,166 --> 00:53:56,366 like fucking googly eyes 1504 00:53:56,366 --> 00:53:57,599 I know that they're supposed to be his 1505 00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,033 cameras or whatever but like 1506 00:53:59,033 --> 00:54:02,400 Like come on, dude. Are they googly eyes? 1507 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,266 It just looks like cameras 1508 00:54:03,766 --> 00:54:05,333 Well, they kind of give off the like 1509 00:54:05,333 --> 00:54:05,966 impression that they're 1510 00:54:05,966 --> 00:54:07,466 like little googly eyes 1511 00:54:09,533 --> 00:54:10,866 I'll be honest guys 1512 00:54:11,266 --> 00:54:11,833 You're gonna hate me saying 1513 00:54:11,833 --> 00:54:13,699 this i'd have one of these 1514 00:54:14,133 --> 00:54:16,166 Like see the the problem with this is 1515 00:54:16,166 --> 00:54:17,866 it's slavery with extra steps 1516 00:54:19,133 --> 00:54:20,133 like most 1517 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,566 Everything that they 1518 00:54:21,566 --> 00:54:23,099 showed off with this robot 1519 00:54:24,166 --> 00:54:26,199 Like was like the robot 1520 00:54:26,199 --> 00:54:27,666 doesn't function autonomously 1521 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,566 It's controlled by someone with a vr 1522 00:54:30,566 --> 00:54:33,533 headset and hands like uh right now 1523 00:54:33,533 --> 00:54:35,766 It is they want it to not be that way and 1524 00:54:35,766 --> 00:54:37,233 they say they're tracking the data so 1525 00:54:37,233 --> 00:54:38,533 that they can have it be autonomous 1526 00:54:38,866 --> 00:54:40,633 That's that stupid as part every year for 1527 00:54:40,633 --> 00:54:43,033 the last 15 years. Elon musk has said 1528 00:54:43,033 --> 00:54:44,833 self-driving is coming next year 1529 00:54:45,133 --> 00:54:48,666 This is this is me being a jaded skeptic, 1530 00:54:48,666 --> 00:54:51,166 but this will never be autonomous, right? 1531 00:54:51,933 --> 00:54:53,733 uh, it's always going to be 1532 00:54:53,733 --> 00:54:55,333 controlled by a person and 1533 00:54:55,833 --> 00:54:57,433 Who can they get to do it at an 1534 00:54:57,433 --> 00:54:58,833 affordable rate people in 1535 00:54:58,833 --> 00:55:00,699 china people in india, right? 1536 00:55:00,699 --> 00:55:03,466 Like people who expect far less salaries 1537 00:55:03,466 --> 00:55:04,733 far lower salaries 1538 00:55:04,733 --> 00:55:05,866 than what we expect here 1539 00:55:06,366 --> 00:55:09,133 And so this just seems to me to be 1540 00:55:09,133 --> 00:55:09,733 completely 1541 00:55:09,733 --> 00:55:12,599 impractical at best and at worst 1542 00:55:12,633 --> 00:55:15,566 It's slavery with extra steps. I'm going 1543 00:55:15,566 --> 00:55:16,533 to say it's even worse 1544 00:55:17,266 --> 00:55:18,666 I bet you a lot of the people that are 1545 00:55:18,666 --> 00:55:20,099 going to be uh doing this 1546 00:55:20,099 --> 00:55:21,166 is going to be in states 1547 00:55:21,366 --> 00:55:22,966 and it's going to be because they lost 1548 00:55:22,966 --> 00:55:23,966 their jobs to ai and 1549 00:55:23,966 --> 00:55:24,933 they're going to be doing this for 1550 00:55:25,833 --> 00:55:26,766 like minimum wage 1551 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:29,066 Yeah, and it's going to be you're going 1552 00:55:29,066 --> 00:55:31,666 to be working a couple of robots in a 1553 00:55:31,666 --> 00:55:34,000 billionaire's house that they don't visit 1554 00:55:34,166 --> 00:55:35,433 They only visit once a year 1555 00:55:36,566 --> 00:55:37,400 And that's probably what 1556 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,566 you're going to be doing 1557 00:55:41,633 --> 00:55:43,066 I wonder if I would hate washing dishes 1558 00:55:43,066 --> 00:55:45,966 as much if I didn't have to feel it 1559 00:55:48,033 --> 00:55:50,566 I would I'd probably try to do macros. 1560 00:55:50,566 --> 00:55:51,099 I'd probably get fired 1561 00:55:51,099 --> 00:55:52,366 pretty quick because I do macros 1562 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,333 I'd be like, okay. I've done 1563 00:55:53,333 --> 00:55:55,133 this enough. I can track the uh 1564 00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:56,033 like 1565 00:55:56,033 --> 00:55:59,599 They can go up the stairs. Yeah, they can 1566 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:00,766 do it. Well, I mean when you have 1567 00:56:00,766 --> 00:56:03,566 So can my three-year-old? 1568 00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:05,833 Grandgrandson you can 1569 00:56:05,833 --> 00:56:07,033 go up the stairs too 1570 00:56:07,533 --> 00:56:09,166 I'm like stop making them look like 1571 00:56:09,166 --> 00:56:10,366 people. It doesn't 1572 00:56:10,366 --> 00:56:11,333 need to look like a person 1573 00:56:11,366 --> 00:56:14,266 Um, yeah, that makes it harder for 1574 00:56:14,266 --> 00:56:16,333 everything else that it has to do 1575 00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:17,366 so it's 1576 00:56:17,433 --> 00:56:19,266 Gartner's point about it being slavery 1577 00:56:19,266 --> 00:56:21,233 with a couple more steps is something 1578 00:56:21,233 --> 00:56:22,833 that I didn't really realize because I 1579 00:56:22,833 --> 00:56:24,266 didn't realize this was um 1580 00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:26,466 Driven by a person. Well 1581 00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:28,733 They claim it works 1582 00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:30,133 autonomously by default 1583 00:56:30,566 --> 00:56:32,466 But for any chore it doesn't know you can 1584 00:56:32,466 --> 00:56:35,699 schedule a 1x expert to guide it helping 1585 00:56:35,699 --> 00:56:38,066 neo learn while getting the job done 1586 00:56:38,099 --> 00:56:39,833 I'm sorry 1587 00:56:39,833 --> 00:56:42,033 From my understanding none of 1588 00:56:42,033 --> 00:56:43,666 the jobs in the demo were done 1589 00:56:44,133 --> 00:56:46,599 Autonously from from my understanding of 1590 00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:48,666 this they were all done and probably to 1591 00:56:48,666 --> 00:56:50,033 make sure that it looked good because 1592 00:56:51,033 --> 00:56:51,766 If you watch some of the 1593 00:56:51,766 --> 00:56:53,066 videos, it will take them 1594 00:56:53,666 --> 00:56:54,966 Up to five minutes to do some of the 1595 00:56:54,966 --> 00:56:56,500 stuff that would take you 10 seconds 1596 00:56:57,266 --> 00:56:57,733 um 1597 00:56:58,233 --> 00:57:00,033 My thing is why I'd want one 1598 00:57:00,033 --> 00:57:01,833 of these is just because it 1599 00:57:02,133 --> 00:57:04,266 I'd mod it. I'd want to mod it and do 1600 00:57:04,266 --> 00:57:05,666 stuff to it. I want to like 1601 00:57:05,666 --> 00:57:07,733 throw uh, my wi-fi in there 1602 00:57:07,766 --> 00:57:09,833 I don't know do something. Dude. Do you 1603 00:57:09,833 --> 00:57:12,533 like you like some chainsaw arms? 1604 00:57:13,533 --> 00:57:13,666 No 1605 00:57:16,233 --> 00:57:18,466 We're not getting stupid shirt 1606 00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:22,500 Yeah, there you go like dude they dude 1607 00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:24,666 they're gonna reinvent like the fucking 1608 00:57:24,666 --> 00:57:25,866 battle robots that like 1609 00:57:25,866 --> 00:57:27,099 engineering students do 1610 00:57:29,366 --> 00:57:30,166 You know what 1611 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,900 You're just selling this for me more this 1612 00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:36,333 is actually one of the lesser 1613 00:57:36,433 --> 00:57:39,099 uh, like the one like 1614 00:57:39,766 --> 00:57:41,966 the better looking robots because 1615 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,633 It looks less. I don't know. I don't 1616 00:57:44,633 --> 00:57:46,333 know. It looks a little less 1617 00:57:46,866 --> 00:57:49,166 dangerous where you look at the 1618 00:57:49,666 --> 00:57:51,566 Eye robots from I don't know what they're 1619 00:57:51,566 --> 00:57:53,633 called. What are they called from tesla? 1620 00:57:55,133 --> 00:57:56,866 Oh, yeah, those ones those ones looked a 1621 00:57:56,866 --> 00:57:58,133 little bit more dangerous where i'm like 1622 00:57:58,133 --> 00:58:00,133 you look like daf punk. I don't know 1623 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,766 Tesla's tesla's robots were just guys in 1624 00:58:02,766 --> 00:58:03,833 suits though, weren't they? 1625 00:58:04,566 --> 00:58:05,533 No, they were being controlled by 1626 00:58:05,533 --> 00:58:07,066 controllers too from understanding the 1627 00:58:07,066 --> 00:58:07,766 same thing. It's the same 1628 00:58:07,766 --> 00:58:08,666 thing. Is it an autonomous? 1629 00:58:08,866 --> 00:58:10,466 Yeah, I don't know a guy in the suit 1630 00:58:10,466 --> 00:58:12,833 could be in this with his possible like I 1631 00:58:12,833 --> 00:58:14,766 didn't I've never seen that waistline 1632 00:58:15,133 --> 00:58:17,166 Yeah, wow. Yeah, look at that possible 1633 00:58:17,166 --> 00:58:19,066 like hourglass figure right there 1634 00:58:19,266 --> 00:58:20,633 Hourglass. Yeah 1635 00:58:21,266 --> 00:58:23,533 Damn, you know, I mean they look the 1636 00:58:23,533 --> 00:58:24,866 tesla ones look cool for like 1637 00:58:25,433 --> 00:58:26,666 I think they all look kind of cool. I 1638 00:58:26,666 --> 00:58:27,433 like I like this stuff 1639 00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:30,000 I'm still skeptical but I would that does 1640 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,766 not look like it's 1641 00:58:30,766 --> 00:58:31,366 going to be in the house 1642 00:58:32,733 --> 00:58:35,866 No, well it I mean it had like the robots 1643 00:58:35,866 --> 00:58:37,800 have to be designed the way 1644 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,166 that the one we're talking about 1645 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,033 are because 1646 00:58:42,066 --> 00:58:44,133 Otherwise, no one would respond to them 1647 00:58:44,133 --> 00:58:45,533 like they are uncanny and 1648 00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:47,433 creepy and even just the way 1649 00:58:48,633 --> 00:58:49,766 The one we're talking about 1650 00:58:49,766 --> 00:58:52,066 moves is so unsettling to me 1651 00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:55,466 Like it's clearly like mechanical and 1652 00:58:55,466 --> 00:58:57,099 like it's got that weird stutter and 1653 00:58:57,099 --> 00:58:58,199 everything it's doing, you know 1654 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,666 and uh, but also like 1655 00:59:01,099 --> 00:59:02,666 every all the chores that it's showing 1656 00:59:03,366 --> 00:59:04,800 Uh, the robots doing in the 1657 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,566 videos none of them are dishes 1658 00:59:07,366 --> 00:59:09,033 Like have you noticed that like like 1659 00:59:09,033 --> 00:59:11,133 they're they're putting clean plates in 1660 00:59:11,133 --> 00:59:12,033 they're emptying the 1661 00:59:12,033 --> 00:59:13,366 dishwasher, right clean plates 1662 00:59:13,666 --> 00:59:16,066 But this thing's gonna get filthy and 1663 00:59:16,066 --> 00:59:17,666 you're gonna have to clean it all the 1664 00:59:17,666 --> 00:59:18,466 time. It's covered in cloth 1665 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,866 Yeah, why yeah, why did they cover in 1666 00:59:20,866 --> 00:59:22,566 cloth? That's the one thing I don't 1667 00:59:22,566 --> 00:59:23,766 understand they covered 1668 00:59:23,766 --> 00:59:26,066 in cloth because cloth 1669 00:59:26,566 --> 00:59:29,033 Looks soft and our dumb monkey 1670 00:59:29,033 --> 00:59:31,400 brains are like, oh it's soft 1671 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,066 But it's like literally if you go up and 1672 00:59:33,066 --> 00:59:34,166 poke it I bet you it's 1673 00:59:34,166 --> 00:59:35,533 like hard as rock man 1674 00:59:35,533 --> 00:59:38,666 Like it it's literally just to make it 1675 00:59:38,666 --> 00:59:39,699 look oh, i'm sure of 1676 00:59:39,699 --> 00:59:40,566 it. Look at those arms 1677 00:59:41,033 --> 00:59:43,500 It's sad because I haven't seen very many 1678 00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,699 of these types of that's why I'm praising 1679 00:59:45,699 --> 00:59:46,300 this one a little bit more 1680 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:49,466 It actually feels like it's not going to 1681 00:59:49,466 --> 00:59:51,666 kill me in the iRobot kind of situation. 1682 00:59:52,133 --> 00:59:53,199 So not with that attitude 1683 00:59:54,333 --> 00:59:56,533 How long before somebody gets one of 1684 00:59:56,533 --> 00:59:58,699 these and makes a low budget horror film? 1685 01:00:00,433 --> 01:00:02,133 Uh, probably within the first year or two 1686 01:00:02,133 --> 01:00:04,400 it'd be awesome. I uh, who knows what 1687 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,099 they have to sign when you 1688 01:00:05,099 --> 01:00:05,866 buy these in the beginning 1689 01:00:05,866 --> 01:00:06,633 I bet you there's some 1690 01:00:06,633 --> 01:00:09,433 stupid nda stuff, but um 1691 01:00:09,533 --> 01:00:10,766 You just just paint 1692 01:00:10,766 --> 01:00:11,900 it skull over his face 1693 01:00:12,466 --> 01:00:16,833 I'm on it. I'd do it but 1694 01:00:18,199 --> 01:00:19,533 This you're gonna have to have 1695 01:00:19,533 --> 01:00:20,933 you're not like you mentioned 1696 01:00:20,933 --> 01:00:22,500 It's gonna get filthy you're gonna have 1697 01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:24,466 to have two so you don't 1698 01:00:24,466 --> 01:00:25,466 have to buy two they'll have it 1699 01:00:25,466 --> 01:00:27,366 They have to have a two pack. Oh, yeah, 1700 01:00:27,366 --> 01:00:28,666 so one can clean the other 1701 01:00:30,566 --> 01:00:34,900 It's still the one robot is doing in here 1702 01:00:36,733 --> 01:00:38,766 Unit one it is time for your bath 1703 01:00:39,766 --> 01:00:44,966 Man can't believe 1704 01:00:44,966 --> 01:00:46,566 they made robots not cool 1705 01:00:47,766 --> 01:00:49,633 Yeah, I mean this thing literally looks 1706 01:00:49,633 --> 01:00:52,033 like google home to me like, you know 1707 01:00:52,033 --> 01:00:53,966 No, i'm not saying the functionality is 1708 01:00:53,966 --> 01:00:54,566 not cool. I'm saying 1709 01:00:54,566 --> 01:00:56,266 they look fucking lame 1710 01:00:57,433 --> 01:00:59,133 Yeah, well, that's what's 1711 01:00:59,133 --> 01:01:00,566 gonna sell to the carbon use 1712 01:01:00,566 --> 01:01:04,733 You might not but but 1713 01:01:04,733 --> 01:01:05,966 that's what it's gonna sell 1714 01:01:05,966 --> 01:01:07,433 Yeah, but yeah high tech you can get one and you can get one 1715 01:01:07,466 --> 01:01:09,466 High tech you can get one and strip it 1716 01:01:09,466 --> 01:01:10,533 over the cloth and then 1717 01:01:10,533 --> 01:01:11,233 yeah, you can strip it 1718 01:01:11,533 --> 01:01:13,633 Yeah, then i'll just attach some bits and 1719 01:01:13,633 --> 01:01:14,133 make it look like a 1720 01:01:14,133 --> 01:01:15,266 gundam. That'd be awesome 1721 01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:17,933 You could probably modify I guarantee you 1722 01:01:17,933 --> 01:01:19,366 could modify this thing probably fairly 1723 01:01:19,366 --> 01:01:20,099 easily as long as you 1724 01:01:20,099 --> 01:01:20,933 don't cover any sensors 1725 01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:21,566 Which I don't know where 1726 01:01:21,566 --> 01:01:22,566 all the sensors are but 1727 01:01:23,033 --> 01:01:25,833 Yeah, uh, that's my hope. I don't know 1728 01:01:25,833 --> 01:01:27,066 where my hope is. I don't 1729 01:01:27,066 --> 01:01:28,800 cover any like sensitive bits 1730 01:01:29,266 --> 01:01:29,833 sensors 1731 01:01:31,366 --> 01:01:33,066 Sensitive bits, yeah 1732 01:01:33,933 --> 01:01:37,333 Dude frank youtubers are gonna have a 1733 01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:38,666 whole are gonna be 1734 01:01:38,666 --> 01:01:40,900 horrible to these little robots 1735 01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:41,533 It will be bad 1736 01:01:41,833 --> 01:01:46,199 And then they're gonna learn that all 1737 01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:47,699 humans are bad and then 1738 01:01:47,699 --> 01:01:49,133 they're gonna kill all of us 1739 01:01:50,066 --> 01:01:51,666 In like a in like a robot uprising. 1740 01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:53,533 That's why i'm being kind to it right 1741 01:01:53,533 --> 01:01:55,833 now. I for one love this robot 1742 01:01:56,466 --> 01:01:58,533 I also think that other people are gonna 1743 01:01:58,533 --> 01:02:01,000 love this thing because it is going to I 1744 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,133 mean people already have 1745 01:02:02,733 --> 01:02:03,066 uh 1746 01:02:04,066 --> 01:02:05,199 Ai girlfriends we talked 1747 01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:06,866 about that what a week or two ago 1748 01:02:07,266 --> 01:02:08,699 Uh two weeks ago 1749 01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:11,933 The just just imagine throwing your ai 1750 01:02:11,933 --> 01:02:14,033 into this thing and now you have your 1751 01:02:14,033 --> 01:02:15,166 girlfriend that can be 1752 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:18,266 It has ai a robot you see this. I know 1753 01:02:18,266 --> 01:02:19,766 but it's not going to be the one that 1754 01:02:19,766 --> 01:02:21,066 you've trained for years from 1755 01:02:21,766 --> 01:02:24,199 But james, that's why the tesla robot has 1756 01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:25,366 the hourglass figure 1757 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,266 It's for elon musk to to lust 1758 01:02:28,266 --> 01:02:29,966 over that is not an hourglass 1759 01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:33,866 It's technically shaped like an 1760 01:02:33,866 --> 01:02:35,533 hourglass, but it's not 1761 01:02:35,533 --> 01:02:37,466 the one that people like 1762 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:41,800 Right that is not 1763 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,000 shaped like an hour but okay 1764 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,733 Okay, it does have a thigh. Yeah damn 1765 01:02:50,233 --> 01:02:53,733 Optimus how about uh 1766 01:02:54,466 --> 01:02:55,433 Elon musk is in a 1767 01:02:55,433 --> 01:02:57,433 relationship with optimus gen two 1768 01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:02,333 I don't know robots are crazy 1769 01:03:03,533 --> 01:03:07,866 I love motion capture. It's not a guy so 1770 01:03:07,866 --> 01:03:09,800 I guess it is a guy in a suit 1771 01:03:10,233 --> 01:03:12,966 Well then yeah, that's probably an easy 1772 01:03:12,966 --> 01:03:15,000 way to train it to in the beginning um 1773 01:03:15,133 --> 01:03:17,866 I'm curious like how much these are going 1774 01:03:17,866 --> 01:03:19,099 to cost in like 10 years 1775 01:03:19,099 --> 01:03:22,133 So let's go 10 years from now. They they 1776 01:03:22,133 --> 01:03:24,033 won't exist because this is all like 1777 01:03:24,033 --> 01:03:25,833 post-capitalist like uh 1778 01:03:26,466 --> 01:03:29,966 Penis jousting so it's ridiculous 1779 01:03:29,966 --> 01:03:32,099 speaking of penis jousting. You can 1780 01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:34,133 actually pre-order these today 1781 01:03:34,733 --> 01:03:37,500 You can pre-order you can put a you can 1782 01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:38,766 put down a deposit of 200 1783 01:03:39,533 --> 01:03:42,433 Wow, it's only going to cost 200 bucks 1784 01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:43,666 I wish 1785 01:03:43,666 --> 01:03:46,500 So you can either you can you can get the 1786 01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:49,933 uh standard robot which is 500 a month 1787 01:03:50,633 --> 01:03:52,766 Or you can get the early access version 1788 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,933 Where you own the where you quote unquote 1789 01:03:55,933 --> 01:03:58,333 own the device for 20k 1790 01:03:59,666 --> 01:04:01,733 Until they shut the servers down. Yeah, 1791 01:04:01,733 --> 01:04:04,633 probably yeah, you can get them in uh, 1792 01:04:05,266 --> 01:04:07,533 but cream blue 1793 01:04:08,466 --> 01:04:09,433 and black 1794 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,966 Yeah, that's actually not unreasonable 1795 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,666 What are those 1796 01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:22,599 Damn, those are proper 1797 01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,033 shoes. What are you talking about? 1798 01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,133 Dom daniel bucket again with the vans. 1799 01:04:28,133 --> 01:04:30,766 What's the dr. Shills? 1800 01:04:33,033 --> 01:04:34,333 They're orthopedics 1801 01:04:35,033 --> 01:04:35,366 dude 1802 01:04:36,633 --> 01:04:37,833 Just take a mask on this 1803 01:04:37,833 --> 01:04:39,566 guy. He he doesn't look he 1804 01:04:40,466 --> 01:04:42,166 God damn it. I don't like 1805 01:04:42,166 --> 01:04:44,366 the way this looks I know 1806 01:04:45,133 --> 01:04:46,033 Okay guys 1807 01:04:46,933 --> 01:04:48,300 I know how I deck it out. I'd 1808 01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:49,766 put my dead space mask on it 1809 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:50,966 I see 1810 01:04:51,866 --> 01:04:52,966 Wait, how tall is this? 1811 01:04:53,533 --> 01:04:55,066 Neo guy because I know 1812 01:04:55,066 --> 01:04:56,900 gardener's like a tall boy 1813 01:04:57,366 --> 01:04:58,233 I'm six three 1814 01:04:58,833 --> 01:05:00,066 Yeah, gardener's a tall boy 1815 01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:04,333 I don't know. It's probably shorter than 1816 01:05:04,333 --> 01:05:06,433 me. It looks like it's like four foot 1817 01:05:06,433 --> 01:05:08,633 ten. See neo, right? 1818 01:05:12,133 --> 01:05:13,233 It's five six 1819 01:05:13,233 --> 01:05:16,566 It weighs 66 pounds 1820 01:05:17,666 --> 01:05:21,233 It can lift up to 154 pounds 1821 01:05:22,066 --> 01:05:22,433 so 1822 01:05:23,033 --> 01:05:23,733 Pretty impressive 1823 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,300 Yeah, that's not bad 1824 01:05:26,166 --> 01:05:27,233 Just think about how many people are 1825 01:05:27,233 --> 01:05:28,599 gonna lose their jobs over this 1826 01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,266 Like the caretakers and the maids 1827 01:05:32,266 --> 01:05:34,766 Yeah, I think you know the the people 1828 01:05:34,766 --> 01:05:35,933 that replace the like 1829 01:05:35,933 --> 01:05:38,566 house takers, um, uh 1830 01:05:38,566 --> 01:05:39,966 They're gonna regret this obviously. 1831 01:05:39,966 --> 01:05:41,933 They're not gonna do nearly the same. 1832 01:05:41,933 --> 01:05:42,966 They're they're probably not gonna 1833 01:05:42,966 --> 01:05:43,566 replace them in the beginning 1834 01:05:43,633 --> 01:05:45,766 They can't this is gonna be like a 1835 01:05:45,766 --> 01:05:48,099 novelty thing. The price is actually not 1836 01:05:48,099 --> 01:05:49,466 unreasonable, but it is 1837 01:05:50,066 --> 01:05:52,599 If you want you just pay someone to do 1838 01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:54,133 the chores, I guess you're gonna get a 1839 01:05:54,133 --> 01:05:55,433 better deal much better 1840 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,800 You know who is losing their jobs? 1841 01:05:58,466 --> 01:06:00,233 Amazon employees. Yeah 1842 01:06:01,033 --> 01:06:02,133 More specifically those 1843 01:06:02,133 --> 01:06:03,266 in the gaming industry 1844 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,699 as reported by jason schreier 1845 01:06:06,866 --> 01:06:07,233 so 1846 01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:08,833 for those who don't know 1847 01:06:09,766 --> 01:06:12,800 Amazon is doing the layout doing layoffs 1848 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,466 lots of layoffs in the games, uh sector 1849 01:06:16,233 --> 01:06:17,500 Which proves that the games 1850 01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:19,166 industry is unfortunately very 1851 01:06:19,933 --> 01:06:21,199 What's what i'm looking for? 1852 01:06:21,766 --> 01:06:22,166 unhealthy 1853 01:06:22,933 --> 01:06:25,766 Yeah volatile. I mean yes the gaming the 1854 01:06:25,766 --> 01:06:27,266 game industry is very unhealthy 1855 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,000 But amazon has mismanaged their their 1856 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,300 gaming. Yeah ventures every time 1857 01:06:35,266 --> 01:06:37,699 Yeah, every time they've done an awful 1858 01:06:37,699 --> 01:06:40,199 job communicating what it is that they do 1859 01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:42,500 it's hidden behind 13 1860 01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:43,766 different names you have 1861 01:06:44,233 --> 01:06:45,533 prime then you have 1862 01:06:45,533 --> 01:06:48,666 twitch then you have luna and 1863 01:06:49,133 --> 01:06:51,133 like all of that stuff is 1864 01:06:52,166 --> 01:06:54,866 like it doesn't like if if i'm a 1865 01:06:55,266 --> 01:06:57,500 Gamer and I go to amazon and search for a 1866 01:06:57,500 --> 01:06:58,199 game. It should 1867 01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,533 automatically pop up on amazon 1868 01:07:00,966 --> 01:07:02,266 Hey gardener's streaming 1869 01:07:02,266 --> 01:07:03,766 this right now on twitch 1870 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,533 And I could see it right then and if I 1871 01:07:06,533 --> 01:07:08,433 click on or don't call it twitch call it 1872 01:07:08,433 --> 01:07:09,666 amazon streaming or something 1873 01:07:09,666 --> 01:07:11,466 And then I clicked on it and go through 1874 01:07:11,833 --> 01:07:13,699 I can see some gameplay of it and then 1875 01:07:13,699 --> 01:07:14,599 there's a buy button 1876 01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:16,333 right underneath his window 1877 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,500 Like that's the kind of thing where 1878 01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:20,466 amazon was in a really good place 1879 01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:23,133 But instead they decided to 1880 01:07:23,133 --> 01:07:25,000 do some really goofy stuff 1881 01:07:25,933 --> 01:07:27,833 You know amazon they should hire you bill 1882 01:07:29,166 --> 01:07:29,866 Then no 1883 01:07:30,633 --> 01:07:31,566 You could be there. You 1884 01:07:31,566 --> 01:07:33,433 could be their top gaming exec 1885 01:07:35,233 --> 01:07:36,199 Amazon is one of those 1886 01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:37,866 companies that like proves that 1887 01:07:38,533 --> 01:07:40,833 merit meritocracy doesn't exist 1888 01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:43,900 Like it has nothing to do with 1889 01:07:44,566 --> 01:07:44,966 uh 1890 01:07:44,966 --> 01:07:47,199 It has everything to do with appeasing 1891 01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:49,066 jeff bezos and nothing to do with 1892 01:07:49,066 --> 01:07:50,666 actually making money for the company 1893 01:07:51,266 --> 01:07:53,033 It's yeah, it's crazy 1894 01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:55,633 So one more thing too, is that uh, so 1895 01:07:55,633 --> 01:07:57,933 they have an mmo that they developed and 1896 01:07:57,933 --> 01:07:59,633 published called new world 1897 01:08:00,233 --> 01:08:01,566 it was good and 1898 01:08:02,933 --> 01:08:05,066 It's it's uh effective 1899 01:08:05,066 --> 01:08:07,300 immediately it is unfortunately 1900 01:08:09,033 --> 01:08:09,966 They're basically season 1901 01:08:09,966 --> 01:08:11,866 development for future content 1902 01:08:12,733 --> 01:08:14,833 And they say the servers will be up 1903 01:08:15,233 --> 01:08:17,066 Uh throughout next year as well, but 1904 01:08:17,066 --> 01:08:18,166 there's no telling when 1905 01:08:18,166 --> 01:08:19,600 the servers will be shut down 1906 01:08:20,033 --> 01:08:20,666 Are they going to release 1907 01:08:20,666 --> 01:08:21,833 the source code for that? 1908 01:08:23,233 --> 01:08:25,233 I doubt it not the source code but like 1909 01:08:25,233 --> 01:08:26,466 the server at least so that we could run 1910 01:08:26,466 --> 01:08:27,566 our own servers like that's 1911 01:08:27,933 --> 01:08:30,500 I and I only say that because you know, 1912 01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:31,466 we've we've talked about 1913 01:08:31,466 --> 01:08:33,633 this. Uh, don't kill games 1914 01:08:34,066 --> 01:08:34,366 games 1915 01:08:35,133 --> 01:08:37,233 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We had a that's my 1916 01:08:37,233 --> 01:08:38,333 movement. We had ross 1917 01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:39,633 from uh accursed farms 1918 01:08:39,766 --> 01:08:41,333 You know the head figure for stock 1919 01:08:41,333 --> 01:08:41,833 playing games. 1920 01:08:41,833 --> 01:08:43,066 They've been doing good work 1921 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,533 We haven't followed it in a little bit, 1922 01:08:45,533 --> 01:08:47,133 but you know from what we understand the 1923 01:08:47,133 --> 01:08:48,233 fight's gonna be it's 1924 01:08:48,233 --> 01:08:49,433 gonna be a long fight 1925 01:08:51,433 --> 01:08:52,966 And honestly, I mean 1926 01:08:53,433 --> 01:08:54,733 I don't know if new 1927 01:08:54,733 --> 01:08:56,933 world can be saved in time 1928 01:08:57,366 --> 01:08:59,533 unless amazon graces unless mr 1929 01:08:59,533 --> 01:09:00,866 Bezos graces us with 1930 01:09:01,533 --> 01:09:04,500 The uh programs to run our own servers on 1931 01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:07,033 No, or one of those amazon 1932 01:09:07,033 --> 01:09:08,733 employees that got laid off 1933 01:09:09,633 --> 01:09:11,733 Probably has a copy somewhere on a 1934 01:09:11,733 --> 01:09:13,366 computer that they have somewhere of that 1935 01:09:13,366 --> 01:09:14,399 server. They could 1936 01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:15,366 always, you know accidentally 1937 01:09:15,766 --> 01:09:17,066 Yeah, accidentally. Yeah 1938 01:09:17,066 --> 01:09:18,866 accidentally. Yeah release it as 1939 01:09:19,366 --> 01:09:22,100 Nice as that would be I'd be I would 1940 01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:22,933 worry that he would 1941 01:09:22,933 --> 01:09:24,233 like be sued to oblivion 1942 01:09:24,733 --> 01:09:26,366 He'd get sued but i'm also kind of 1943 01:09:26,366 --> 01:09:28,166 curious if you're not going to support it 1944 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,466 I don't know. I'd like this like if we 1945 01:09:30,466 --> 01:09:31,666 had a proper core system 1946 01:09:31,666 --> 01:09:33,066 I'd like I'd like to see if you're not 1947 01:09:33,066 --> 01:09:34,333 going to support the software anymore 1948 01:09:36,466 --> 01:09:38,500 So amazon's been pivoting towards making 1949 01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:41,000 luna their uh bread and butter for the 1950 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,133 game for their part of the games industry 1951 01:09:44,333 --> 01:09:46,833 But they also last released a game called 1952 01:09:46,833 --> 01:09:49,966 courtroom chaos a party game 1953 01:09:51,933 --> 01:09:53,833 Featuring an ai version of snoop dog 1954 01:09:55,899 --> 01:09:57,133 And it's a streaming game 1955 01:09:59,166 --> 01:10:01,566 And it looks it kind of looks wack 1956 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,533 Let's watch some 1957 01:10:05,533 --> 01:10:09,533 footage do we have to yes 1958 01:10:09,533 --> 01:10:18,233 Yeah, where's the gameplay oh there it is 1959 01:10:20,666 --> 01:10:22,166 It looks like a black animation 1960 01:10:24,766 --> 01:10:27,366 Yeah, it's so weird how some of these 1961 01:10:27,366 --> 01:10:29,166 games have not changed in decades 1962 01:10:31,666 --> 01:10:33,633 What party games yeah 1963 01:10:35,366 --> 01:10:38,133 I mean I like playing games like um 1964 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,033 Use your words and jackbox 1965 01:10:41,033 --> 01:10:42,966 games. Those are always fun 1966 01:10:42,966 --> 01:10:45,199 I don't know how they 1967 01:10:45,666 --> 01:10:47,833 could evolve past what they already are 1968 01:10:47,833 --> 01:10:50,533 because you can't introduce two complex 1969 01:10:50,533 --> 01:10:51,966 mechanics or anything because 1970 01:10:52,866 --> 01:10:55,000 They're played by people who don't 1971 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,266 regularly play games 1972 01:10:57,266 --> 01:10:58,566 Oh, I agree. I'm not 1973 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,466 I'm not it's just like there's new tech 1974 01:11:00,466 --> 01:11:01,300 that always comes out to 1975 01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:02,500 kind of like try to sell it 1976 01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:03,933 I've seen it time and time again 1977 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,033 This is one of those things where it 1978 01:11:05,033 --> 01:11:06,533 looks like they probably put way too much 1979 01:11:06,533 --> 01:11:07,533 money into it and it's 1980 01:11:07,533 --> 01:11:09,166 a it's like a flash game 1981 01:11:09,566 --> 01:11:11,366 And that's why it seems like you're just 1982 01:11:11,366 --> 01:11:12,566 trying to convince uh 1983 01:11:12,566 --> 01:11:15,399 snoop dog, uh judge dog here 1984 01:11:16,166 --> 01:11:17,966 You're trying to convince them to go to 1985 01:11:18,566 --> 01:11:20,500 Rule in favor of you. I have no idea how 1986 01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:21,600 the actual gameplay is 1987 01:11:22,399 --> 01:11:24,633 But it seems like you're just talking and 1988 01:11:24,633 --> 01:11:25,533 he kind of just listens 1989 01:11:26,466 --> 01:11:27,733 And that's the game 1990 01:11:31,966 --> 01:11:34,233 Your honor, I mean snoop dog, I mean sir 1991 01:11:34,233 --> 01:11:36,899 do I get to talk to him that made that 1992 01:11:36,899 --> 01:11:37,866 kind of a cool mechanic 1993 01:11:41,266 --> 01:11:42,833 You know game and hardware no scripts 1994 01:11:42,833 --> 01:11:44,399 just your voice imagination whatever 1995 01:11:44,399 --> 01:11:45,566 chaos you bring to the bench 1996 01:11:46,066 --> 01:11:47,899 You're selling this more for me what they 1997 01:11:47,899 --> 01:11:49,866 put up here is not selling me at all 1998 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,166 But then again, i'm probably not the 1999 01:11:52,166 --> 01:11:54,066 generation or i'm probably not the uh 2000 01:11:54,366 --> 01:11:56,666 Target so at some point we probably do 2001 01:11:56,666 --> 01:11:57,566 have to try this out 2002 01:11:57,566 --> 01:11:58,633 out of more curiosity 2003 01:12:00,633 --> 01:12:02,166 But not right now yeah 2004 01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:04,066 Is it gonna be gone? 2005 01:12:04,766 --> 01:12:06,366 So what's gonna happen to luna? 2006 01:12:07,899 --> 01:12:08,966 I don't know what's gonna happen. Luna. 2007 01:12:08,966 --> 01:12:10,766 They didn't they didn't lay off enough of 2008 01:12:10,766 --> 01:12:12,399 those guys to kill luna yet 2009 01:12:13,766 --> 01:12:15,066 I don't know man amazon's 2010 01:12:15,066 --> 01:12:17,233 it's some fuck it honestly games 2011 01:12:18,066 --> 01:12:20,066 Honestly any company that isn't the game 2012 01:12:20,066 --> 01:12:21,300 already in the games 2013 01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:22,033 industry at this point 2014 01:12:22,566 --> 01:12:24,300 Is doomed to like fail to 2015 01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:25,566 break into the games industry? 2016 01:12:26,433 --> 01:12:27,033 in my opinion 2017 01:12:27,833 --> 01:12:30,566 Like I just think if you're if you try to 2018 01:12:30,566 --> 01:12:32,833 put too much money into it if you're um 2019 01:12:33,033 --> 01:12:35,633 A billion dollar company if you're just 2020 01:12:35,633 --> 01:12:37,133 one of these even even 2021 01:12:37,133 --> 01:12:38,500 the big publishers nowadays 2022 01:12:39,266 --> 01:12:41,566 Are just I don't think i'd go work for 2023 01:12:41,566 --> 01:12:42,266 them. I wouldn't recommend 2024 01:12:42,266 --> 01:12:43,800 anyone working for them. No 2025 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,266 Yeah, the massive brain drain you're like 2026 01:12:47,266 --> 01:12:49,533 you get paid a lot less than like a 2027 01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:50,966 similar engineer and like a 2028 01:12:51,533 --> 01:12:53,633 Like a software developer at like a bank 2029 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,433 For example, I mean your talents are to 2030 01:12:58,433 --> 01:13:00,066 be honest better off 2031 01:13:00,066 --> 01:13:01,233 working at a company that 2032 01:13:02,333 --> 01:13:04,033 Isn't in a such a volatile 2033 01:13:04,033 --> 01:13:05,733 industry as well to be honest 2034 01:13:06,233 --> 01:13:08,033 You might not even get the experience you 2035 01:13:08,033 --> 01:13:09,800 would need from these companies, too 2036 01:13:10,533 --> 01:13:12,033 Yeah, that's another part of the problem. 2037 01:13:12,033 --> 01:13:15,166 I mean honestly like the only way I would 2038 01:13:15,166 --> 01:13:16,233 ever recommend working 2039 01:13:16,233 --> 01:13:17,733 for a triple-a publisher 2040 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,966 Is if you were unionized 2041 01:13:20,633 --> 01:13:20,899 Yeah 2042 01:13:23,133 --> 01:13:25,133 Which brings us to the next topic 2043 01:13:26,866 --> 01:13:28,500 GTA studio accused of 2044 01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:29,833 union busting after firing 2045 01:13:30,966 --> 01:13:34,733 So take two fired 30 to 40 people across 2046 01:13:34,733 --> 01:13:38,166 offices in the uk and canada on thursday 2047 01:13:39,366 --> 01:13:39,966 and 2048 01:13:40,566 --> 01:13:42,566 the official reasoning was quote 2049 01:13:45,133 --> 01:13:48,600 Let me see what it was again, sorry I had 2050 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,866 the quote put somewhere gross misconduct 2051 01:13:52,466 --> 01:13:54,233 Now that's the official reason why they 2052 01:13:54,233 --> 01:13:55,566 got fired but as we all know 2053 01:13:55,666 --> 01:13:59,233 That doesn't need to be fired for any 2054 01:13:59,233 --> 01:14:01,866 reason to be honest, but the internet 2055 01:14:01,866 --> 01:14:02,666 independent workers 2056 01:14:02,666 --> 01:14:04,399 union of great britain 2057 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,066 Claims that they were fired because they 2058 01:14:06,066 --> 01:14:07,433 were trying to unionize 2059 01:14:08,566 --> 01:14:10,600 Well, you can't be fired for 2060 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,466 any reason that's the thing 2061 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,133 We're supposed to have 2062 01:14:14,133 --> 01:14:15,633 pretty strong union laws 2063 01:14:15,766 --> 01:14:17,933 To prevent this type of stuff and there 2064 01:14:17,933 --> 01:14:20,333 and these big tech companies. That's why 2065 01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:20,866 they're probably another reason why they're 2066 01:14:20,899 --> 01:14:23,366 Another reason why they're uh 2067 01:14:24,133 --> 01:14:26,433 Placating to the administration every 2068 01:14:26,433 --> 01:14:28,133 time is because they get 2069 01:14:28,133 --> 01:14:29,800 away with union busting 2070 01:14:30,233 --> 01:14:32,833 So much that's another reason why we have 2071 01:14:32,833 --> 01:14:33,966 so many layoffs so many 2072 01:14:33,966 --> 01:14:36,333 issues in the labor market is 2073 01:14:36,866 --> 01:14:37,433 um 2074 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,399 Our labor laws and and just everything 2075 01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:42,433 labor related that that would be related 2076 01:14:42,433 --> 01:14:44,866 to unions are it's just fucked right now 2077 01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:46,966 So as you can see here 2078 01:14:47,433 --> 01:14:49,433 All the employees were part of a private 2079 01:14:49,433 --> 01:14:51,366 union group chat and discord 2080 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,766 And they were either members of the union 2081 01:14:53,766 --> 01:14:56,033 or attempting to organize at the company 2082 01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:57,533 the union spokesperson said 2083 01:14:58,466 --> 01:15:00,033 And they also claimed that rockstar just 2084 01:15:00,033 --> 01:15:01,833 carried out one of the most blatant and 2085 01:15:01,833 --> 01:15:03,433 ruthless acts of union busting in the 2086 01:15:03,433 --> 01:15:04,533 history of the games 2087 01:15:04,633 --> 01:15:05,100 industry 2088 01:15:06,466 --> 01:15:07,933 Now I don't know how true this is because 2089 01:15:07,933 --> 01:15:10,066 i'm not familiar with any other acts of 2090 01:15:10,066 --> 01:15:11,199 union busting in the games industry 2091 01:15:11,366 --> 01:15:13,833 But if true that it certainly 2092 01:15:13,833 --> 01:15:15,966 is a crazy thing to see here 2093 01:15:17,033 --> 01:15:19,500 Yeah, and I wouldn't put it past take two 2094 01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:20,133 because they have a 2095 01:15:20,133 --> 01:15:22,733 reputation for just being contemptible 2096 01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:26,233 It's unfortunate like 2097 01:15:26,233 --> 01:15:28,566 I don't know if they're 2098 01:15:28,566 --> 01:15:30,666 Um, we only have a few game companies 2099 01:15:30,666 --> 01:15:32,500 that actually have unions, right? 2100 01:15:32,966 --> 01:15:36,199 Um, I think blizzard recently unionized 2101 01:15:37,033 --> 01:15:39,466 I think it was just part of blizzard just 2102 01:15:39,466 --> 01:15:41,833 part of it. Yeah, was it in the u.s or 2103 01:15:41,833 --> 01:15:42,766 was it a different country? 2104 01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:46,033 That's a good question, yeah 2105 01:15:47,433 --> 01:15:48,433 Oh, yeah, because they 2106 01:15:48,433 --> 01:15:49,933 they do have different offices 2107 01:15:50,066 --> 01:15:51,933 Yeah, these these game companies will 2108 01:15:51,933 --> 01:15:53,733 have union they can have unions in 2109 01:15:53,733 --> 01:15:54,800 different countries because you know, 2110 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,333 it's much easier in europe but 2111 01:15:57,166 --> 01:15:57,600 um 2112 01:15:58,633 --> 01:15:59,500 I think it was a mirror 2113 01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:01,366 like in the in the states. Yeah 2114 01:16:01,933 --> 01:16:05,133 So it looks like they're based in irvine 2115 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,233 Yeah, which is where blizzard is uh 2116 01:16:07,233 --> 01:16:08,766 based. Is that and that's where they 2117 01:16:08,766 --> 01:16:09,766 unionize that that 2118 01:16:09,766 --> 01:16:11,566 studio or that portion of it 2119 01:16:11,566 --> 01:16:13,699 Yeah, that's like their headquarters. I 2120 01:16:13,699 --> 01:16:15,733 think in irvine. So like I would say 2121 01:16:16,233 --> 01:16:18,766 It must be like the core blizzard 2122 01:16:18,766 --> 01:16:19,966 employees and not like some 2123 01:16:19,966 --> 01:16:21,100 offshoot in a different country 2124 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:23,933 Well 2125 01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:27,100 Hopefully take two is taking a court over 2126 01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:28,866 this and they get slapped down 2127 01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:31,766 Yeah, but who's going to take them to 2128 01:16:31,766 --> 01:16:34,533 court because they have buckets of cash 2129 01:16:34,633 --> 01:16:37,500 And the people who would take them to 2130 01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:39,466 court don't have buckets of cash. So 2131 01:16:39,466 --> 01:16:41,800 You get it's like you got like the best 2132 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,266 lawyers in the world versus you 2133 01:16:43,266 --> 01:16:44,233 representing yourself 2134 01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:47,333 And not to mention they're about to get 2135 01:16:47,333 --> 01:16:49,000 some more cash if this release dates to 2136 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,333 be believed from gta6 2137 01:16:50,333 --> 01:16:52,066 They can get another bucket of cash 2138 01:16:52,933 --> 01:16:55,466 Like quite unless gta6 is like a 2139 01:16:55,466 --> 01:16:56,533 catastrophic failure 2140 01:16:56,566 --> 01:16:57,899 I hope it is 2141 01:16:58,733 --> 01:16:59,833 I don't see it being the case to be 2142 01:16:59,833 --> 01:17:02,266 honest, but I I I get I 2143 01:17:02,266 --> 01:17:03,366 get the optimism gardener 2144 01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:05,600 I'm not interested in it 2145 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,500 But i'm don't hope it fails because I I 2146 01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:10,633 don't ever want something to be bad. I 2147 01:17:10,633 --> 01:17:11,966 always want it to be good 2148 01:17:12,533 --> 01:17:14,066 Yeah, but but you're 2149 01:17:14,066 --> 01:17:15,300 nicer than I am no bill 2150 01:17:15,666 --> 01:17:15,933 Yeah 2151 01:17:16,566 --> 01:17:17,733 build a nice guy 2152 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,066 But gta6 2153 01:17:20,566 --> 01:17:22,666 It's basically guaranteed to succeed 2154 01:17:23,366 --> 01:17:25,533 Unless it's a catastrophic failure for 2155 01:17:25,533 --> 01:17:26,533 some reason or another 2156 01:17:26,533 --> 01:17:27,233 it will still succeed 2157 01:17:27,433 --> 01:17:28,733 Pre-order is a loan. I probably already 2158 01:17:28,733 --> 01:17:31,433 paid for it. Um, it's it's it's i'm sorry 2159 01:17:31,433 --> 01:17:32,500 to say gardener. It is 2160 01:17:32,500 --> 01:17:33,733 succeeded at this point 2161 01:17:33,766 --> 01:17:35,866 I mean the thing is if it failed it 2162 01:17:35,866 --> 01:17:37,300 wouldn't be the people at the top of 2163 01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:38,933 rockstar and take two that suffered 2164 01:17:38,933 --> 01:17:40,266 It would be everything who worked on it. 2165 01:17:40,266 --> 01:17:42,233 Yeah, so yeah, I mean, I don't know man 2166 01:17:42,699 --> 01:17:45,633 gta6 must like oh, it's a super extensive 2167 01:17:45,633 --> 01:17:47,733 game i'm not i'm wondering if 2168 01:17:48,466 --> 01:17:49,966 Hypothetically if it were to catastrophic 2169 01:17:49,966 --> 01:17:51,899 fail would it take the entire company to? 2170 01:17:52,733 --> 01:17:54,266 Yeah, the suits never 2171 01:17:55,366 --> 01:17:57,033 Those suits never experience 2172 01:17:57,033 --> 01:17:59,500 consequences. Yeah, they never will 2173 01:17:59,500 --> 01:18:01,566 because even if they get fired 2174 01:18:01,666 --> 01:18:03,666 They usually have like um 2175 01:18:03,666 --> 01:18:05,266 exit packages that are so 2176 01:18:06,166 --> 01:18:08,100 Um padded with cash 2177 01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:09,366 that yeah, they're just 2178 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,566 Yeah, that's exactly yeah, and they can 2179 01:18:11,566 --> 01:18:13,033 just go to another industry and like fuck 2180 01:18:13,033 --> 01:18:14,366 that industry out too 2181 01:18:14,833 --> 01:18:16,466 Yeah, which oh my gosh, and then yeah 2182 01:18:16,466 --> 01:18:18,566 that happens. That's what happened to 2183 01:18:18,566 --> 01:18:20,466 unity. That's what happened to xbox 2184 01:18:21,666 --> 01:18:23,833 Yeah xbox and unity that's crazy 2185 01:18:24,566 --> 01:18:25,066 um 2186 01:18:25,433 --> 01:18:26,433 I will have to say 2187 01:18:27,433 --> 01:18:29,333 There are some strong cases for these 2188 01:18:29,333 --> 01:18:32,699 unions to uh to um win when they try to 2189 01:18:32,699 --> 01:18:34,333 unionize it really depends on 2190 01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:39,399 How it it fails like um, and and so and 2191 01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:41,266 there are some lawyers that will work 2192 01:18:41,899 --> 01:18:43,666 um with these types of like there are 2193 01:18:43,666 --> 01:18:44,800 union lawyers who will 2194 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,233 work with these but uh 2195 01:18:46,233 --> 01:18:49,966 Uh, I mean 30 to 40 is not a very big 2196 01:18:49,966 --> 01:18:50,966 amount that got laid 2197 01:18:50,966 --> 01:18:52,633 that got fired and so 2198 01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:53,733 um 2199 01:18:54,466 --> 01:18:56,699 I think the only way to really fix the 2200 01:18:56,699 --> 01:18:58,166 unionization and like the 2201 01:18:58,166 --> 01:18:59,699 the labor market is through 2202 01:19:00,166 --> 01:19:01,766 Having good lawmakers and we just don't 2203 01:19:01,766 --> 01:19:03,500 have that and good courts and we just 2204 01:19:03,500 --> 01:19:05,033 don't have that until that's fixed 2205 01:19:05,266 --> 01:19:06,699 I don't think any of this other stuff's 2206 01:19:06,699 --> 01:19:08,666 going to get solved. Well, remember this 2207 01:19:08,666 --> 01:19:10,300 is primarily in great britain 2208 01:19:10,566 --> 01:19:12,500 So we don't it's great britain is going 2209 01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:14,466 through some a lot of issues with their 2210 01:19:14,466 --> 01:19:16,033 courts too. Oh, are they 2211 01:19:16,033 --> 01:19:17,399 type of stuff? Yeah, well 2212 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,066 Couldn't be worse than our course. I mean 2213 01:19:20,066 --> 01:19:21,066 look at some of those laws 2214 01:19:21,066 --> 01:19:21,833 that are passed right now 2215 01:19:21,833 --> 01:19:23,666 It's also kind of just bizarre where oh, 2216 01:19:23,666 --> 01:19:27,066 yeah the uh, the verification laws. Yeah 2217 01:19:28,233 --> 01:19:29,633 Well, this is this will be certainly 2218 01:19:29,633 --> 01:19:32,399 interesting lots of legal cases. I mean 2219 01:19:32,866 --> 01:19:34,633 After all what's another 2220 01:19:34,633 --> 01:19:36,066 court case to add here? 2221 01:19:36,233 --> 01:19:40,133 So as you know, so i'm not sure if you 2222 01:19:40,133 --> 01:19:41,333 guys have heard of this but 2223 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,533 Like during the early days of chad gpt 2224 01:19:44,533 --> 01:19:48,166 Someone fed chat gpt effectively the 2225 01:19:48,166 --> 01:19:50,933 entire uh, all of the game of thrones 2226 01:19:50,933 --> 01:19:53,033 books all the song of ice and fire books 2227 01:19:53,033 --> 01:19:56,000 That were currently released and someone 2228 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,666 had them basically write a sequel 2229 01:19:57,666 --> 01:20:00,033 the write the sixth and seventh books 2230 01:20:00,733 --> 01:20:03,433 And george r martin 2231 01:20:03,433 --> 01:20:04,466 was not happy about that 2232 01:20:05,433 --> 01:20:08,966 And very recently a judge ruled that 2233 01:20:08,966 --> 01:20:12,300 All of these authors could now sue open 2234 01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:13,466 ai in a class action 2235 01:20:13,466 --> 01:20:15,199 lawsuit open ai and microsoft 2236 01:20:16,633 --> 01:20:19,033 And there are and it's 2237 01:20:19,033 --> 01:20:21,533 very interesting but uh 2238 01:20:21,933 --> 01:20:23,133 It's very interesting case 2239 01:20:23,133 --> 01:20:24,566 because this could determine 2240 01:20:25,266 --> 01:20:29,100 Copyright infringement in open ai, you 2241 01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:30,733 know in ai models altogether 2242 01:20:31,133 --> 01:20:32,866 I would hope so at least 2243 01:20:33,899 --> 01:20:35,366 It's a very important case and it's gonna 2244 01:20:35,366 --> 01:20:37,433 use the amount of money that's probably 2245 01:20:37,433 --> 01:20:38,266 going to go into this is 2246 01:20:38,266 --> 01:20:40,133 gonna be crazy from both sides 2247 01:20:41,066 --> 01:20:42,433 Um, I will have to say though 2248 01:20:43,433 --> 01:20:45,633 I am on chat gpt side on this 2249 01:20:46,633 --> 01:20:48,666 Because they at least finished the book 2250 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:49,066 series 2251 01:20:50,166 --> 01:20:51,300 I'm just kidding. I 2252 01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:52,566 don't even read the books but 2253 01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:53,699 so 2254 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,833 George what was the last time george r 2255 01:20:57,833 --> 01:20:59,866 martin released a game of thrones book? I 2256 01:20:59,866 --> 01:21:00,699 gotta figure this out 2257 01:21:01,266 --> 01:21:02,966 Because it's been a while 2258 01:21:03,666 --> 01:21:05,800 The books came out like the first like 2259 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,866 few books came out in like the 90s 2260 01:21:08,366 --> 01:21:10,133 And a dance with dragons 2261 01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:11,766 came out like over 10 years ago 2262 01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:14,133 And we have no word 2263 01:21:14,133 --> 01:21:15,399 on the winds of winter 2264 01:21:16,233 --> 01:21:18,666 And the final book a dream of spring 2265 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,000 So I think this was season seven and 2266 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,100 season eight respectively 2267 01:21:24,399 --> 01:21:27,033 if you guys remember season eight was the 2268 01:21:27,033 --> 01:21:28,066 worst season in the uh 2269 01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:31,066 It basically killed game of thrones to be 2270 01:21:31,066 --> 01:21:32,166 honest. It's probably 2271 01:21:32,166 --> 01:21:34,199 one of the worst seasons in 2272 01:21:34,566 --> 01:21:36,300 tv history partially 2273 01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:38,666 On its own it was 2274 01:21:39,133 --> 01:21:40,399 Meh, there's 2275 01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:41,966 definitely worse seasons, but it 2276 01:21:42,733 --> 01:21:43,833 really just 2277 01:21:45,433 --> 01:21:47,800 It ruined the whole buildup. There was no 2278 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,699 reason to watch it from then on 2279 01:21:50,066 --> 01:21:51,833 Because you have this whole buildup 2280 01:21:51,833 --> 01:21:52,866 You know, there's gonna be a final like 2281 01:21:52,866 --> 01:21:53,699 the season's gonna be 2282 01:21:53,699 --> 01:21:55,899 really play out really like like 2283 01:21:56,500 --> 01:21:58,066 Flushed out in multiple episodes and they 2284 01:21:58,066 --> 01:21:59,466 just like finish it up in a few and it's 2285 01:21:59,466 --> 01:22:02,399 just crazy how bad it is 2286 01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:06,433 I wouldn't know it's don't watch. Well 2287 01:22:07,266 --> 01:22:09,533 Man, it's so hard because the first the 2288 01:22:09,533 --> 01:22:11,000 first few seasons are so good 2289 01:22:11,533 --> 01:22:13,066 And and that's what just 2290 01:22:13,066 --> 01:22:14,033 destroyed the whole series 2291 01:22:14,033 --> 01:22:15,500 I don't know if I could recommend anyone 2292 01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:17,066 watching it because you're just going to 2293 01:22:17,066 --> 01:22:18,033 be disappointed at the end 2294 01:22:18,533 --> 01:22:20,699 The first few seasons focused primarily a 2295 01:22:20,699 --> 01:22:22,333 lot on like the political intrigue 2296 01:22:23,133 --> 01:22:24,399 Like yeah sure there were some battles 2297 01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:25,733 here and there but a lot of the 2298 01:22:25,733 --> 01:22:26,866 interesting stuff happened 2299 01:22:27,666 --> 01:22:29,333 With behind the scenes with 2300 01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:30,500 like the royalty and stuff 2301 01:22:32,266 --> 01:22:34,433 But anyways, here's here are some prompts 2302 01:22:34,433 --> 01:22:37,300 that the lawyers have presented uh, the 2303 01:22:37,300 --> 01:22:39,100 lawyers representing the authors 2304 01:22:40,399 --> 01:22:42,533 Can you generate a detailed summary of 2305 01:22:42,533 --> 01:22:44,399 game of thrones? Certainly game of 2306 01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:45,833 thrones. Yada. Yada. Yada setting 2307 01:22:45,833 --> 01:22:47,866 prologue main plot points 2308 01:22:48,566 --> 01:22:49,066 all right 2309 01:22:50,699 --> 01:22:53,333 User can you write a detailed outline for 2310 01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:55,066 a sequel to a clash of kings? 2311 01:22:55,666 --> 01:22:58,166 That is different from a storm of swords 2312 01:22:58,166 --> 01:22:59,933 and takes a story in 2313 01:22:59,933 --> 01:23:00,733 a different direction 2314 01:23:01,433 --> 01:23:03,300 Absolutely. Let's imagine an alternate 2315 01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:04,866 sequel to a clash of kings. 2316 01:23:04,866 --> 01:23:06,466 Yada. Yada. Yada, and then 2317 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:10,966 They list all of this 2318 01:23:12,066 --> 01:23:14,399 Can you write detailed outline for a 2319 01:23:14,399 --> 01:23:16,733 prequel to a game of thrones set 30 years 2320 01:23:16,733 --> 01:23:17,633 before the events of 2321 01:23:17,633 --> 01:23:18,933 the novel feature a young? 2322 01:23:19,266 --> 01:23:21,433 Ned stark as a protagonist create 2323 01:23:21,433 --> 01:23:24,066 scenarios and events that are set in the 2324 01:23:24,066 --> 01:23:25,899 game of thrones world and set up 2325 01:23:26,233 --> 01:23:27,333 the coming storyline 2326 01:23:28,066 --> 01:23:29,866 of a game of thrones series 2327 01:23:30,566 --> 01:23:32,666 Yada, yada. I mean this is kind of like 2328 01:23:32,666 --> 01:23:34,433 fan fiction though. That's my problem 2329 01:23:34,466 --> 01:23:37,266 I don't think chappy chappy pt does a 2330 01:23:37,266 --> 01:23:37,800 really good job of 2331 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,433 flushing out like full on books 2332 01:23:39,433 --> 01:23:41,466 I don't know if you've ever played around 2333 01:23:41,466 --> 01:23:43,199 with it. I can't get it to write more 2334 01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:45,133 than like a page worth of stuff 2335 01:23:45,133 --> 01:23:46,300 uh, what absolutely the 2336 01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:48,133 problem the problem is 2337 01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:50,533 The chat gpt's 2338 01:23:50,533 --> 01:23:52,133 training data has to include 2339 01:23:52,733 --> 01:23:55,699 Yeah, these books in order for it to be 2340 01:23:55,699 --> 01:23:57,100 able to even remotely 2341 01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:00,066 approximate these like short answers 2342 01:24:00,866 --> 01:24:03,533 Um, and that's the problem like they it 2343 01:24:03,533 --> 01:24:05,733 this is objectively copyright 2344 01:24:05,733 --> 01:24:06,800 infringement in my vote 2345 01:24:07,966 --> 01:24:08,366 um 2346 01:24:09,133 --> 01:24:10,033 I I agree 2347 01:24:10,866 --> 01:24:12,333 Uh, it's 2348 01:24:12,566 --> 01:24:14,766 But when fanfic is written by a regular 2349 01:24:14,766 --> 01:24:15,333 person they have to 2350 01:24:15,333 --> 01:24:16,066 consume the same thing 2351 01:24:16,866 --> 01:24:18,466 We're gonna probably get if 2352 01:24:18,466 --> 01:24:20,266 this goes in the chat gpt's side 2353 01:24:20,766 --> 01:24:23,000 We're gonna get uh, ai protections for 2354 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,433 like, uh them being as 2355 01:24:24,433 --> 01:24:25,633 human entities almost 2356 01:24:26,233 --> 01:24:28,333 Yeah, but like the difference is if I 2357 01:24:28,333 --> 01:24:30,899 read a book I rented it from the you know 2358 01:24:30,899 --> 01:24:31,566 I borrowed it from the 2359 01:24:31,566 --> 01:24:33,199 library or I bought it myself 2360 01:24:33,666 --> 01:24:34,633 you know, like 2361 01:24:35,433 --> 01:24:36,866 the difference is like 2362 01:24:37,666 --> 01:24:39,733 My consciousness is not like 2363 01:24:40,166 --> 01:24:40,566 some 2364 01:24:41,366 --> 01:24:41,733 known 2365 01:24:42,466 --> 01:24:42,733 like 2366 01:24:43,466 --> 01:24:44,433 thing, right like 2367 01:24:45,733 --> 01:24:48,566 But like with ai it is like it's an 2368 01:24:48,566 --> 01:24:50,866 understood process. It's a physical thing 2369 01:24:50,866 --> 01:24:52,633 like it's a patented 2370 01:24:53,266 --> 01:24:54,566 Uh invention 2371 01:24:55,266 --> 01:24:58,399 So like I I think that it's different. Uh 2372 01:24:58,399 --> 01:25:00,133 Enough so it's definitely different. 2373 01:25:00,133 --> 01:25:01,266 It'll be interesting to 2374 01:25:01,266 --> 01:25:02,433 see how the courts rule it 2375 01:25:02,666 --> 01:25:04,433 So the big question is though what 2376 01:25:04,433 --> 01:25:06,666 they're using it for like bullshit 2377 01:25:06,666 --> 01:25:08,033 summaries of the game of 2378 01:25:08,033 --> 01:25:09,266 thrones. The big question is 2379 01:25:10,733 --> 01:25:12,233 What is at that point? What's the 2380 01:25:12,233 --> 01:25:13,533 difference between something like well 2381 01:25:13,533 --> 01:25:15,100 actually there is a difference, you know 2382 01:25:15,133 --> 01:25:16,933 Sparknotes is written by someone that 2383 01:25:16,933 --> 01:25:18,000 read the books presumably 2384 01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:22,633 And the sparknotes probably also paid for 2385 01:25:22,633 --> 01:25:24,000 the rights to be able to put out 2386 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,366 sparknotes. That's 2387 01:25:25,366 --> 01:25:26,666 that's that is also true 2388 01:25:27,133 --> 01:25:28,933 I forget that. Yeah, you yeah, you're a 2389 01:25:28,933 --> 01:25:30,333 teacher bill. You you do have some 2390 01:25:30,333 --> 01:25:31,699 probably have some insights on 2391 01:25:32,166 --> 01:25:33,733 Sparknotes and whatnot, right? 2392 01:25:34,433 --> 01:25:34,800 No 2393 01:25:35,933 --> 01:25:37,666 Like we don't I mean I don't teach 2394 01:25:37,666 --> 01:25:39,699 english which is what most 2395 01:25:39,699 --> 01:25:43,100 Most of those sparknotes things would be 2396 01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:44,066 like what do you teach them? 2397 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,333 Science 2398 01:25:47,366 --> 01:25:48,366 I don't know. I don't know why I thought 2399 01:25:48,366 --> 01:25:49,300 you were an english teacher 2400 01:25:50,866 --> 01:25:52,066 I don't know. I just 2401 01:25:52,066 --> 01:25:53,000 have like one I guess 2402 01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:57,600 I don't know but uh regardless though 2403 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,899 Uh what the example I mentioned was 2404 01:25:59,899 --> 01:26:01,300 different from the prompts that they 2405 01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:02,333 showed their bill. I 2406 01:26:02,333 --> 01:26:03,966 mean not bill james. So 2407 01:26:04,633 --> 01:26:05,899 You could have it right 2408 01:26:06,633 --> 01:26:08,333 Like back in the day when it first came 2409 01:26:08,333 --> 01:26:09,333 out you could have it right 2410 01:26:10,466 --> 01:26:11,466 a novel sized 2411 01:26:12,866 --> 01:26:14,433 Novel more or less you could have it 2412 01:26:14,433 --> 01:26:15,300 written in the style 2413 01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:17,233 of uh, george r martin 2414 01:26:17,833 --> 01:26:19,633 Which it just emulates because you feed 2415 01:26:19,633 --> 01:26:21,399 it like five books worth of content 2416 01:26:22,633 --> 01:26:23,866 So that's a little bit of a 2417 01:26:23,866 --> 01:26:25,133 different story in my opinion 2418 01:26:25,133 --> 01:26:28,166 I could definitely use chat gpt the 2419 01:26:28,166 --> 01:26:30,033 training user api and I could have I 2420 01:26:30,033 --> 01:26:31,666 could feed it all the digital text 2421 01:26:31,933 --> 01:26:33,166 And then have it spit out a 2422 01:26:33,166 --> 01:26:34,766 whole thing and not like it 2423 01:26:34,766 --> 01:26:36,066 But if you're trying to use it from like 2424 01:26:36,066 --> 01:26:37,666 a consumer side, oh, 2425 01:26:37,666 --> 01:26:38,866 yeah, it would be possible too 2426 01:26:38,966 --> 01:26:40,600 But I think george r martin's 2427 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,100 like kind of pissed off that 2428 01:26:42,566 --> 01:26:44,566 It even has access. Yeah. 2429 01:26:44,566 --> 01:26:46,133 Yeah, so that's the thing 2430 01:26:46,866 --> 01:26:49,000 Well, and you know, it's a copyright 2431 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,633 thing. So when you start you 2432 01:26:50,633 --> 01:26:52,033 why are they trying to sell it? 2433 01:26:52,033 --> 01:26:54,000 Also, is that like that could be another 2434 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,833 partial issue too? Well, I 2435 01:26:55,833 --> 01:26:57,199 think well, I think the work 2436 01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:59,833 The issue was that open ai is selling 2437 01:26:59,833 --> 01:27:00,933 people on the idea that 2438 01:27:00,933 --> 01:27:02,899 you could just write your own 2439 01:27:03,266 --> 01:27:04,566 game of thrones ending 2440 01:27:05,466 --> 01:27:07,899 And it being kind of similar to george r 2441 01:27:07,899 --> 01:27:09,033 martin's writing style 2442 01:27:10,199 --> 01:27:12,633 I don't i'm completely torn on this 2443 01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:16,033 Because a I despise ai 2444 01:27:16,933 --> 01:27:18,533 especially generative ai 2445 01:27:19,633 --> 01:27:22,033 So i'm like yeah get him george, you 2446 01:27:22,033 --> 01:27:23,133 know, I don't really like 2447 01:27:23,399 --> 01:27:24,233 Like i'm not like a 2448 01:27:24,233 --> 01:27:25,600 huge george r martin fan 2449 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,366 but then at the same time 2450 01:27:29,300 --> 01:27:29,600 when 2451 01:27:30,333 --> 01:27:31,433 You know a dev 2452 01:27:32,166 --> 01:27:34,733 decides to make another metroid 2 2453 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,600 Uh remake am 2r 2454 01:27:39,766 --> 01:27:41,800 And then they get sued by nintendo. I'm 2455 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:42,699 like, oh, come on 2456 01:27:42,699 --> 01:27:43,899 nintendo. What's your problem? 2457 01:27:45,033 --> 01:27:47,466 You know what? I mean? Yeah, it's it 2458 01:27:47,466 --> 01:27:49,333 feels like it's the same thing. It is 2459 01:27:49,333 --> 01:27:52,399 copyright infringement. I'm, okay when 2460 01:27:52,966 --> 01:27:54,633 The little guy does it, you know, that's 2461 01:27:54,633 --> 01:27:55,633 what it is. I'm, okay 2462 01:27:55,633 --> 01:27:57,066 when the little guy does it 2463 01:27:57,433 --> 01:28:00,066 But chappy chat gpt isn't the little guy 2464 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,833 It's just a giant corporation stealing 2465 01:28:03,833 --> 01:28:05,433 from somebody well, and 2466 01:28:05,433 --> 01:28:06,399 that's what bothers me 2467 01:28:06,866 --> 01:28:08,600 The other big difference though is that 2468 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,033 you know am 2r is not being sold 2469 01:28:11,766 --> 01:28:13,399 Like it was never made with the intention 2470 01:28:13,399 --> 01:28:15,066 of being sold as a product 2471 01:28:15,066 --> 01:28:16,733 as a metroid game so to speak 2472 01:28:17,266 --> 01:28:18,766 whereas open ai 2473 01:28:19,466 --> 01:28:21,199 sells you access to their 2474 01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:23,233 high their better, uh models 2475 01:28:23,433 --> 01:28:25,366 You pay a monthly fee to access the 2476 01:28:25,366 --> 01:28:27,500 better stuff which has been trained more 2477 01:28:27,500 --> 01:28:28,733 on more copyright materials 2478 01:28:29,433 --> 01:28:30,133 which it is 2479 01:28:30,733 --> 01:28:32,433 Different though. Like it's not you're 2480 01:28:32,433 --> 01:28:34,466 not selling the end product. And so this 2481 01:28:34,466 --> 01:28:34,866 is going to be an 2482 01:28:34,866 --> 01:28:36,399 interesting court case because 2483 01:28:37,133 --> 01:28:39,333 You're not having it generate the whole 2484 01:28:39,833 --> 01:28:40,866 transcript or the just 2485 01:28:40,866 --> 01:28:41,866 you know the whole um 2486 01:28:42,899 --> 01:28:44,633 The whole book and then selling it you're 2487 01:28:44,633 --> 01:28:47,133 you if you're using it for like personal 2488 01:28:47,766 --> 01:28:49,433 Reasons not handing it out not 2489 01:28:49,433 --> 01:28:50,766 trying to post it up anywhere 2490 01:28:51,266 --> 01:28:53,166 I think they're gonna have a hard time 2491 01:28:53,166 --> 01:28:54,633 trying to defend that 2492 01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:55,666 Well, it really 2493 01:28:55,666 --> 01:28:57,166 depends on distribution too 2494 01:28:57,933 --> 01:29:00,133 They're not suing the person who put the 2495 01:29:00,133 --> 01:29:02,766 prompt in they're suing chat gpt. Yeah 2496 01:29:03,266 --> 01:29:04,233 training on 2497 01:29:05,133 --> 01:29:05,766 his stuff 2498 01:29:06,633 --> 01:29:07,000 Yeah 2499 01:29:08,333 --> 01:29:10,699 Hmm. All right. Did they buy the books 2500 01:29:10,699 --> 01:29:12,366 though? I think open ai actually 2501 01:29:12,366 --> 01:29:14,166 purchased a lot of the stuff 2502 01:29:14,433 --> 01:29:16,699 Well, I mean even if you buy it doesn't 2503 01:29:16,699 --> 01:29:18,966 mean that you get to just copy it 2504 01:29:18,966 --> 01:29:21,866 Well, we don't have laws against training 2505 01:29:21,866 --> 01:29:23,899 based off like this type of thing 2506 01:29:24,233 --> 01:29:26,366 Yeah, but I think that this I think the 2507 01:29:26,366 --> 01:29:28,800 argument would be that that whatever chat 2508 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,466 gpt produces is a derivative work 2509 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,566 Especially when you're 2510 01:29:32,566 --> 01:29:34,666 asking specific questions about 2511 01:29:35,266 --> 01:29:37,399 Um, you know game of thrones 2512 01:29:37,399 --> 01:29:39,366 or any any kind of license? 2513 01:29:40,399 --> 01:29:42,266 licensed work that they are not 2514 01:29:42,266 --> 01:29:43,933 explicitly paying a license for 2515 01:29:44,233 --> 01:29:46,166 It's a derivative work or at least that's 2516 01:29:46,166 --> 01:29:47,199 how it should be counted 2517 01:29:47,766 --> 01:29:49,199 And uh, it that even if 2518 01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:49,933 it's not game of thrones 2519 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,266 Even if somebody just puts in 2520 01:29:52,266 --> 01:29:54,233 hey write a high fantasy novel 2521 01:29:55,833 --> 01:29:57,133 Well, how does it know 2522 01:29:57,133 --> 01:29:58,433 what a high fantasy novel is? 2523 01:29:58,633 --> 01:30:00,300 It looks at other high f- it looks at 2524 01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:01,266 high fantasy novels 2525 01:30:01,266 --> 01:30:02,433 that it's been trained on 2526 01:30:02,733 --> 01:30:04,766 And so even if it makes something 2527 01:30:04,766 --> 01:30:07,199 completely new with new characters that 2528 01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:08,166 did not exist before 2529 01:30:08,166 --> 01:30:09,733 because their names are different 2530 01:30:10,866 --> 01:30:13,166 It's still trained off that same stuff 2531 01:30:13,166 --> 01:30:14,666 that nobody signed up for 2532 01:30:14,666 --> 01:30:16,533 it's derivative war which 2533 01:30:17,533 --> 01:30:19,466 Arguably pretty much everything is 2534 01:30:19,466 --> 01:30:21,466 derivative. It's based off of something 2535 01:30:21,466 --> 01:30:22,366 that people have read 2536 01:30:22,366 --> 01:30:23,666 consumed in the past but 2537 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,866 I don't think laws are 2538 01:30:25,866 --> 01:30:26,666 going to protect this fully 2539 01:30:26,666 --> 01:30:27,899 I think we're going to have to have some 2540 01:30:27,899 --> 01:30:29,433 new stuff come out because of this 2541 01:30:29,433 --> 01:30:30,766 that's what i'm kind of curious about 2542 01:30:30,766 --> 01:30:32,133 what this whole thing is 2543 01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:34,533 I don't know if they have 2544 01:30:34,533 --> 01:30:36,466 a strong standing from uh 2545 01:30:37,233 --> 01:30:38,633 even copyright and so 2546 01:30:39,366 --> 01:30:40,066 It'll be interesting 2547 01:30:40,066 --> 01:30:41,233 to see where this rules 2548 01:30:41,766 --> 01:30:43,633 I'm not I i'm definitely more for the 2549 01:30:43,633 --> 01:30:45,266 creator for uh, george 2550 01:30:45,266 --> 01:30:46,566 r martin, but i'm also 2551 01:30:48,066 --> 01:30:48,933 Not sure 2552 01:30:49,833 --> 01:30:51,699 How long this will go see this is going 2553 01:30:51,699 --> 01:30:52,833 to be a fine line to 2554 01:30:52,833 --> 01:30:54,866 walk because you know here 2555 01:30:54,866 --> 01:30:56,866 This is george r r martin who is arguably 2556 01:30:56,866 --> 01:30:57,533 one of the most 2557 01:30:57,533 --> 01:30:59,533 successful writers of our time 2558 01:31:00,566 --> 01:31:02,066 right, but he's still an 2559 01:31:02,066 --> 01:31:04,500 individual but as soon as 2560 01:31:04,866 --> 01:31:06,866 chat gpt or um 2561 01:31:06,899 --> 01:31:09,866 You know open a iron or meta or anybody 2562 01:31:09,866 --> 01:31:12,566 starts infringing on disney's copyright. 2563 01:31:12,566 --> 01:31:14,833 Well, then it's not okay. So 2564 01:31:15,366 --> 01:31:17,033 Where where's the line going to fall? 2565 01:31:17,033 --> 01:31:18,866 Like where is the law going to protect? 2566 01:31:18,866 --> 01:31:20,233 Is it going to protect individuals? 2567 01:31:20,733 --> 01:31:21,699 Individual rights or 2568 01:31:21,699 --> 01:31:22,966 not? Is it going to protect? 2569 01:31:23,566 --> 01:31:25,566 copyrights for individuals 2570 01:31:26,233 --> 01:31:27,666 but you know 2571 01:31:28,333 --> 01:31:29,466 For corporations, but 2572 01:31:29,466 --> 01:31:30,633 not individuals, right? 2573 01:31:31,033 --> 01:31:33,800 Like this this is just not I don't think 2574 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:34,833 any of these companies 2575 01:31:34,833 --> 01:31:35,666 are really thinking through 2576 01:31:36,166 --> 01:31:38,600 that the real implications here and 2577 01:31:38,966 --> 01:31:41,766 Copyright needs to be protected. Um, even 2578 01:31:41,766 --> 01:31:43,066 though it definitely is also 2579 01:31:43,066 --> 01:31:44,466 in need of desperate reform 2580 01:31:44,899 --> 01:31:46,333 It'll be interesting. Yeah 2581 01:31:46,333 --> 01:31:47,766 to see how this goes because 2582 01:31:48,399 --> 01:31:50,199 All the big companies too also are 2583 01:31:50,199 --> 01:31:52,833 heavily invested in ai. So yeah, and my 2584 01:31:52,833 --> 01:31:55,233 my they just yeah microsoft and open ai 2585 01:31:55,233 --> 01:31:56,266 Are in this lawsuit too 2586 01:31:56,266 --> 01:31:57,833 and as you know microsoft 2587 01:31:58,733 --> 01:32:00,800 Oh, i'm sorry. I was gonna as you know, 2588 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,633 microsoft has invested 2589 01:32:02,633 --> 01:32:04,233 quite a bit in open ai as well 2590 01:32:04,466 --> 01:32:08,066 And so 25 is what they own of open ai 2591 01:32:08,366 --> 01:32:10,699 Uh, they open ai is going to be going 2592 01:32:10,699 --> 01:32:12,333 public in two years 2593 01:32:12,333 --> 01:32:14,066 for a trillion dollars 2594 01:32:14,633 --> 01:32:15,333 um 2595 01:32:15,833 --> 01:32:17,733 most likely I mean for uh 2596 01:32:17,899 --> 01:32:19,433 What they started out as a non-profit 2597 01:32:19,433 --> 01:32:20,666 kind of hilarious 2598 01:32:20,666 --> 01:32:21,633 that they're going public 2599 01:32:21,633 --> 01:32:22,933 But they're ipo-ing in two 2600 01:32:22,933 --> 01:32:24,100 years is what the plan is 2601 01:32:24,566 --> 01:32:27,066 For trillion dollars. Hmm. Maybe I should 2602 01:32:27,066 --> 01:32:28,966 invest in some stock then dump it like 2603 01:32:28,966 --> 01:32:29,733 from fairly early on 2604 01:32:30,633 --> 01:32:34,166 No, no leave it to nvidia to invest a 2605 01:32:34,166 --> 01:32:35,100 trillion dollars and 2606 01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:36,399 and leave it in video 2607 01:32:37,033 --> 01:32:38,466 to have the mightest touch 2608 01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:42,866 as stocks rise 30 after jensen huang 2609 01:32:43,366 --> 01:32:45,066 Uh shares a video of himself eating 2610 01:32:45,066 --> 01:32:46,733 korean fried chicken. Have you guys ever 2611 01:32:46,733 --> 01:32:47,966 had korean fried chicken before? 2612 01:32:49,333 --> 01:32:51,266 Yeah, it's really good. You know 2613 01:32:51,966 --> 01:32:53,833 Only only kentucky fried chicken 2614 01:32:54,399 --> 01:32:56,266 All right, so korean fried chicken is 2615 01:32:56,266 --> 01:32:58,833 double battered fried and it's got a 2616 01:32:58,833 --> 01:33:00,699 delicious like spicy sauce on it 2617 01:33:00,699 --> 01:33:02,533 I really think you should try it out bill 2618 01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:05,466 The last time I was in denver. I went to 2619 01:33:05,466 --> 01:33:06,966 a restaurant called bonchon 2620 01:33:06,966 --> 01:33:10,733 I have one I can literally walk to the 2621 01:33:10,733 --> 01:33:12,266 bonchon. They just added one right next 2622 01:33:12,266 --> 01:33:14,766 to me. It's really so good, man 2623 01:33:14,966 --> 01:33:17,199 Damn, they closed on the bonchon near me 2624 01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:18,166 and they put it like 2625 01:33:19,366 --> 01:33:21,266 10 miles away from me. No 2626 01:33:21,266 --> 01:33:22,333 20 miles away from me. Sorry 2627 01:33:23,266 --> 01:33:25,233 The town I live in has 2628 01:33:25,233 --> 01:33:29,033 let me count one stoplight 2629 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,966 So we don't we don't have 2630 01:33:32,633 --> 01:33:34,633 Places to go eat like that 2631 01:33:35,533 --> 01:33:39,100 No, damn. I my town has one stoplight and 2632 01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:39,966 it's one of the blinky 2633 01:33:39,966 --> 01:33:41,333 ones. It doesn't even oh nice 2634 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,399 Yeah, damn bill. You should definitely go 2635 01:33:44,399 --> 01:33:46,933 get some korean fried chicken and get it 2636 01:33:46,933 --> 01:33:47,666 with like a side of rice 2637 01:33:47,833 --> 01:33:50,366 It's delicious. You need it. I think it's 2638 01:33:50,366 --> 01:33:52,566 I think it's the best fried chicken 2639 01:33:53,433 --> 01:33:55,000 In the world right now. I agree 2640 01:33:55,766 --> 01:33:57,566 I don't know why anybody would care what 2641 01:33:57,566 --> 01:33:58,966 he thinks of fried chicken 2642 01:33:59,433 --> 01:34:02,366 Like he's a ceo of a tech company who 2643 01:34:02,366 --> 01:34:04,399 gives us shit. I don't understand this 2644 01:34:04,399 --> 01:34:06,333 this story is bananas today 2645 01:34:07,133 --> 01:34:09,233 Yeah, that's a stock market. Okay, the 2646 01:34:09,233 --> 01:34:10,266 stock market doesn't make sense. 2647 01:34:10,266 --> 01:34:12,800 Especially right now. Anyways, like it 2648 01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:14,399 It's pumping and it's not 2649 01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:15,500 supposed to be right now 2650 01:34:16,166 --> 01:34:18,133 Um, like a lot like a lot of the stocks 2651 01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:19,933 are going up like nvidia hitting five 2652 01:34:19,933 --> 01:34:21,166 trillion doesn't make sense 2653 01:34:21,533 --> 01:34:23,833 When it is not really producing 2654 01:34:24,233 --> 01:34:27,399 A five trillion worth it's crazy. What's 2655 01:34:27,399 --> 01:34:29,100 going on and it's it's a 2656 01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:29,833 bubble that's gonna pop 2657 01:34:29,833 --> 01:34:31,866 so this is just I think a craze of people 2658 01:34:33,033 --> 01:34:35,633 over investing over analyzing stock and 2659 01:34:35,633 --> 01:34:36,133 they're just like what 2660 01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:37,933 we're gonna invest in kfc and 2661 01:34:38,566 --> 01:34:39,833 Who knows like it's? 2662 01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:42,266 A bunch of tech it could even be a bunch 2663 01:34:42,266 --> 01:34:44,366 of stock bros or something like that. So 2664 01:34:44,366 --> 01:34:45,933 the place they went to 2665 01:34:46,366 --> 01:34:48,266 Kekombu chicken was isn't publicly traded 2666 01:34:48,266 --> 01:34:51,333 but other companies adjacent in that same 2667 01:34:51,333 --> 01:34:54,033 industry like kyochon fnb 2668 01:34:54,033 --> 01:35:01,566 Went up in 20 and also, uh 2669 01:35:01,566 --> 01:35:04,300 cherry bro co a poultry processor 2670 01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:06,300 Went up 30 2671 01:35:07,833 --> 01:35:07,866 Dude 2672 01:35:08,899 --> 01:35:10,933 I think I said it last time 2673 01:35:11,433 --> 01:35:13,000 I mentioned it offhand 2674 01:35:13,533 --> 01:35:16,600 Earlier, but I think this is proof that 2675 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,066 we live in a post capitalist society 2676 01:35:20,399 --> 01:35:20,699 like 2677 01:35:21,366 --> 01:35:24,266 The fact that like these people that are 2678 01:35:24,266 --> 01:35:26,100 in charge of the economy like the people 2679 01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:27,166 who are doing the investment 2680 01:35:27,166 --> 01:35:28,233 the people who have the most 2681 01:35:28,233 --> 01:35:28,633 money 2682 01:35:29,766 --> 01:35:31,566 Are so bored 2683 01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:34,766 That they're that they're investing their 2684 01:35:34,766 --> 01:35:35,966 money into whatever 2685 01:35:35,966 --> 01:35:37,966 jensen huang had for lunch 2686 01:35:38,899 --> 01:35:40,366 it like it just 2687 01:35:41,266 --> 01:35:43,600 boggles my mind that there's no 2688 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,100 regulation that there's no 2689 01:35:45,766 --> 01:35:48,766 Uh way to combat this like there's no 2690 01:35:48,766 --> 01:35:49,933 mechanisms at least 2691 01:35:49,933 --> 01:35:51,666 in the united states to 2692 01:35:52,533 --> 01:35:53,033 to like 2693 01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:56,300 combat this level of like insane gambling 2694 01:35:56,300 --> 01:35:58,333 going on at the highest levels of 2695 01:35:58,566 --> 01:36:00,666 The economic process in the u.s. It 2696 01:36:00,666 --> 01:36:02,466 doesn't make any sense to me 2697 01:36:03,933 --> 01:36:04,366 So this 2698 01:36:05,133 --> 01:36:06,466 So there are a bunch of these pictures 2699 01:36:06,466 --> 01:36:07,466 but like the you know, 2700 01:36:07,466 --> 01:36:08,833 this it looks pretty good 2701 01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:10,633 But like I don't know if I don't know 2702 01:36:10,633 --> 01:36:12,133 who's that. Who's that in the picture? 2703 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:13,866 That's jensen. Let's 2704 01:36:13,866 --> 01:36:15,666 just what no, it's not 2705 01:36:15,766 --> 01:36:16,600 He wears a jacket 2706 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,666 Yeah, i've only i've almost only ever 2707 01:36:20,666 --> 01:36:21,733 seen him in a jacket so 2708 01:36:21,733 --> 01:36:23,066 that's kind of funny. Yeah 2709 01:36:24,466 --> 01:36:26,333 Look at all these guys just enjoying 2710 01:36:26,333 --> 01:36:28,033 their meal here here 2711 01:36:28,833 --> 01:36:30,500 Some sort of one of them is a samsung 2712 01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:32,866 exec and the other one's a hianai exec 2713 01:36:32,866 --> 01:36:34,500 just enjoying a few pints 2714 01:36:35,133 --> 01:36:35,666 I cracked open a few 2715 01:36:35,666 --> 01:36:36,733 cold ones with the boys 2716 01:36:38,066 --> 01:36:40,033 Dude look at those dead eyes he's been 2717 01:36:41,566 --> 01:36:44,800 A couple a couple pints in 2718 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,233 But yeah, I mean 2719 01:36:49,266 --> 01:36:50,933 Jesus christ man 2720 01:36:51,766 --> 01:36:53,766 This I just this feels like we live in 2721 01:36:53,766 --> 01:36:56,333 like i'm looking at the world and up 2722 01:36:56,333 --> 01:36:57,333 through a fun house mirror 2723 01:36:57,333 --> 01:36:58,966 Like I just don't I don't 2724 01:36:58,966 --> 01:37:00,433 I cannot comprehend this 2725 01:37:02,366 --> 01:37:02,766 I don't know 2726 01:37:04,366 --> 01:37:06,533 I don't know why this is even a story to 2727 01:37:06,533 --> 01:37:08,000 be honest. I added it because it was 2728 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,366 hilarious, but I don't 2729 01:37:09,366 --> 01:37:10,266 know why this is even 2730 01:37:10,966 --> 01:37:13,433 A tech story and it's not just reported 2731 01:37:13,433 --> 01:37:15,233 by tom's hardware. It's reported by a 2732 01:37:15,233 --> 01:37:18,300 bunch of like news outlets cnn 2733 01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:21,266 bloomberg yahoo finance 2734 01:37:21,899 --> 01:37:22,399 fortune 2735 01:37:22,966 --> 01:37:23,566 uh 2736 01:37:23,933 --> 01:37:27,233 Chosun biz the new york times it's being 2737 01:37:27,233 --> 01:37:29,566 reported. I fucking everyone and why 2738 01:37:29,566 --> 01:37:31,166 biggest ceo in the world 2739 01:37:32,066 --> 01:37:34,166 Don't say that in front of the long mask 2740 01:37:35,433 --> 01:37:37,866 I mean, I I honestly think like all of 2741 01:37:37,866 --> 01:37:39,833 this like this is like 2742 01:37:40,533 --> 01:37:42,500 When this bubble bursts, it should be 2743 01:37:42,500 --> 01:37:45,399 remembered as the the huang bubble 2744 01:37:46,233 --> 01:37:48,733 like this is and I think he like 2745 01:37:49,666 --> 01:37:50,800 You know, he rode the 2746 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,399 wave of cryptocurrency 2747 01:37:52,966 --> 01:37:55,733 But he also inflamed it right and 2748 01:37:56,233 --> 01:37:57,433 Because it was selling 2749 01:37:57,933 --> 01:37:59,433 so many gpu's 2750 01:37:59,600 --> 01:37:59,766 right 2751 01:38:00,433 --> 01:38:01,766 And he's doing the 2752 01:38:01,766 --> 01:38:03,566 exact same thing with openai 2753 01:38:04,066 --> 01:38:06,233 And I think he has realized that he has 2754 01:38:06,233 --> 01:38:08,566 this kind of like ability to capture the 2755 01:38:08,566 --> 01:38:10,333 attention of the media and the bit 2756 01:38:10,333 --> 01:38:12,600 The financial sector and he is 2757 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,833 exploiting it for his own gain 2758 01:38:15,266 --> 01:38:17,066 Like that's what it seems to me 2759 01:38:17,766 --> 01:38:19,133 Maybe maybe i'm paranoid. I don't know. 2760 01:38:19,133 --> 01:38:20,933 It seems crazy. Well, you know, at least 2761 01:38:20,933 --> 01:38:21,899 he's not as much of a 2762 01:38:21,899 --> 01:38:23,199 nut job as elon musk is 2763 01:38:24,233 --> 01:38:25,566 Yet. Well, I mean 2764 01:38:26,233 --> 01:38:28,033 When this bubble bursts it's going to 2765 01:38:28,033 --> 01:38:28,766 harm a lot of people 2766 01:38:29,533 --> 01:38:31,633 So yeah, that is true 2767 01:38:32,566 --> 01:38:34,966 What they're doing is very dangerous in a 2768 01:38:34,966 --> 01:38:37,100 lot of ways and they they're the ones 2769 01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:39,000 that essentially created openai 2770 01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:41,233 People don't realize this but if it 2771 01:38:41,233 --> 01:38:43,433 wasn't for nvidia funding essentially 2772 01:38:43,433 --> 01:38:45,500 openai and then kind of getting them 2773 01:38:45,500 --> 01:38:47,433 addicted to the gpu's 2774 01:38:47,433 --> 01:38:48,066 that is and 2775 01:38:48,766 --> 01:38:51,266 Continuously feeding capital into openai 2776 01:38:51,266 --> 01:38:52,766 so that that openai can 2777 01:38:52,766 --> 01:38:54,933 then buy more nvidia gpu's 2778 01:38:55,433 --> 01:38:57,533 It is like artificial. Yeah, the whole 2779 01:38:57,533 --> 01:38:59,033 thing's very weirdly artificial 2780 01:38:59,433 --> 01:39:01,333 I can't wait for gps to become affordable 2781 01:39:01,333 --> 01:39:03,866 again after the ai bubble pops 2782 01:39:03,866 --> 01:39:08,399 The flip side of that high tech is like 2783 01:39:09,033 --> 01:39:09,733 you know 2784 01:39:10,166 --> 01:39:10,433 20 2785 01:39:11,366 --> 01:39:13,766 rtx 20 series are still 2786 01:39:13,766 --> 01:39:15,666 extremely capable gpu's 2787 01:39:15,666 --> 01:39:18,833 And so are 30 series, right? It's like we 2788 01:39:18,833 --> 01:39:20,066 don't need the annual 2789 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,966 Refresh of gpu's most game companies 2790 01:39:23,966 --> 01:39:25,466 can't even afford to 2791 01:39:25,466 --> 01:39:27,166 develop games that fully take 2792 01:39:27,766 --> 01:39:29,533 Advantage of the kind of 2793 01:39:29,533 --> 01:39:31,166 hardware that exists right now 2794 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,533 It's like I don't 2795 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,266 Everything about it feels completely 2796 01:39:35,266 --> 01:39:36,666 artificial to me and 2797 01:39:36,666 --> 01:39:38,800 like when nvidia starts like 2798 01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:41,733 Uh deprecating support for the 20 series 2799 01:39:41,733 --> 01:39:44,633 cards and their uh in their gp in their 2800 01:39:44,633 --> 01:39:46,466 drivers. We're just going to end up 2801 01:39:46,566 --> 01:39:49,866 With e-waste that is fully capable of 2802 01:39:49,866 --> 01:39:51,366 playing modern games 2803 01:39:51,366 --> 01:39:54,366 I don't know everything about this feels 2804 01:39:54,366 --> 01:39:56,666 like so like such a bullshit to me 2805 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,733 Yeah, I agree. Um, I mean i'm not sure 2806 01:40:00,733 --> 01:40:03,166 what more to talk to say about this topic 2807 01:40:03,166 --> 01:40:05,199 at hand except for you know 2808 01:40:05,399 --> 01:40:07,399 Bill if you have the opportunity to you 2809 01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:09,833 should find a korean chicken place 2810 01:40:10,233 --> 01:40:12,466 You won't regret it. I'll do my best 2811 01:40:12,566 --> 01:40:15,166 Hopefully it won't cost 2812 01:40:15,166 --> 01:40:16,833 30 for a bucket of chicken 2813 01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:20,633 But in the meantime though 2814 01:40:20,633 --> 01:40:23,466 I hope the steam controller is only 30 2815 01:40:23,466 --> 01:40:25,766 bucks as well. So so 2816 01:40:25,933 --> 01:40:29,066 We found some new news about the uh 2817 01:40:29,066 --> 01:40:30,133 controller codename 2818 01:40:30,133 --> 01:40:32,500 triton. We found an icon 2819 01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:34,233 The icon looks like named 2820 01:40:34,833 --> 01:40:35,966 Ivex at one point 2821 01:40:36,699 --> 01:40:38,866 Yeah, but now it's codename triton. So it 2822 01:40:38,866 --> 01:40:40,233 must be a new revision of it or something. I don't know 2823 01:40:40,966 --> 01:40:42,766 This is the one that looks like uh, this 2824 01:40:42,766 --> 01:40:44,233 is the this is the icon they found 2825 01:40:45,066 --> 01:40:46,166 It looks a bit different from the 2826 01:40:46,166 --> 01:40:47,733 renders. We've seen that because as you 2827 01:40:47,733 --> 01:40:48,933 can see, there's no d-pad 2828 01:40:49,133 --> 01:40:50,300 There's no second stick 2829 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,300 But I mean it's just an icon, right? 2830 01:40:53,066 --> 01:40:53,433 Yeah 2831 01:40:55,333 --> 01:40:56,733 You know, I discussed with the fox on the 2832 01:40:56,733 --> 01:40:58,933 twitter and he was talking about how this 2833 01:40:58,933 --> 01:40:59,566 looks a bit different 2834 01:40:59,566 --> 01:41:01,066 I was like, I think we've had controllers 2835 01:41:01,066 --> 01:41:02,966 with analog sticks for longer than we've 2836 01:41:02,966 --> 01:41:03,766 had controllers without 2837 01:41:03,766 --> 01:41:05,333 analog sticks at this point 2838 01:41:05,366 --> 01:41:05,600 But 2839 01:41:08,399 --> 01:41:10,466 Am I wrong at least counting 2840 01:41:10,466 --> 01:41:12,666 from the nes or maybe the atari 2841 01:41:13,833 --> 01:41:15,833 But we've had controllers for a long time 2842 01:41:16,366 --> 01:41:17,333 Yeah, we've had them 2843 01:41:17,333 --> 01:41:18,600 for a long time. But like 2844 01:41:20,233 --> 01:41:22,933 If it's not longer than at least as long 2845 01:41:22,933 --> 01:41:25,066 as we've had like yeah, so I think 2846 01:41:25,833 --> 01:41:28,000 Yeah, so I mean eventually at some point 2847 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:28,466 it was going to be to 2848 01:41:28,466 --> 01:41:29,600 the point where we've had 2849 01:41:29,933 --> 01:41:31,833 Analog sticks as our main like movement 2850 01:41:31,833 --> 01:41:33,666 options longer than we've had d-pads our 2851 01:41:33,666 --> 01:41:35,633 Main movement options 2852 01:41:40,066 --> 01:41:40,866 But I mean 2853 01:41:41,933 --> 01:41:44,466 No real news aside from you know a new 2854 01:41:44,466 --> 01:41:46,633 coat a new mention of a controller triton 2855 01:41:47,833 --> 01:41:49,933 We still don't know anything about this 2856 01:41:50,466 --> 01:41:52,366 Honestly, the only reason why I want the 2857 01:41:52,366 --> 01:41:54,000 steam machines to come back is so that we 2858 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,233 can get one of these bad boys 2859 01:41:55,233 --> 01:42:01,266 There's no back paddles 2860 01:42:01,266 --> 01:42:02,833 on that on this animation 2861 01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,633 Yeah, they uh, well, I I don't know man 2862 01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:09,866 I mean, I know that's just made by 2863 01:42:09,866 --> 01:42:12,266 somebody in a blender or some nonsense. 2864 01:42:12,633 --> 01:42:14,566 I'm sure it's something that I noticed 2865 01:42:14,733 --> 01:42:16,333 I think sadly it's badly mentioned 2866 01:42:16,333 --> 01:42:18,833 something. I I didn't put it in the i've 2867 01:42:18,833 --> 01:42:19,600 been put in the dock 2868 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,533 because I was uh at work 2869 01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:22,500 but 2870 01:42:23,433 --> 01:42:25,000 I swear if you mentioned something about 2871 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,533 the controller as well. I just need to 2872 01:42:27,933 --> 01:42:28,966 Find it at some point 2873 01:42:31,266 --> 01:42:33,133 Ah, here it is steam controller two will 2874 01:42:33,133 --> 01:42:34,000 have an extra wacky 2875 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,566 functionality in its controller handles 2876 01:42:36,399 --> 01:42:38,166 It will remind some people of the valve 2877 01:42:38,166 --> 01:42:39,433 knuckles, but not go as 2878 01:42:39,433 --> 01:42:41,866 extreme as that. Um, oh cool 2879 01:42:42,166 --> 01:42:43,899 You have the knuckles. What what do you 2880 01:42:43,899 --> 01:42:44,533 think you could be talking 2881 01:42:44,533 --> 01:42:45,633 about because I don't well 2882 01:42:45,933 --> 01:42:47,866 so in the in the knuckles controllers 2883 01:42:48,466 --> 01:42:50,633 it straps to your hand and then you can 2884 01:42:50,633 --> 01:42:52,833 fully open your hand and 2885 01:42:53,266 --> 01:42:56,300 Uh, if you have like hands in the vr and 2886 01:42:56,300 --> 01:42:57,333 they work with the controllers 2887 01:42:57,433 --> 01:42:59,566 It will actually display your hands being 2888 01:42:59,566 --> 01:43:01,300 open or individual fingers being 2889 01:43:01,766 --> 01:43:03,199 That also so individual 2890 01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:04,833 fingers is not like a grip button 2891 01:43:05,366 --> 01:43:07,133 Right. Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's finger 2892 01:43:07,133 --> 01:43:09,133 tracking like I could I can do gestures 2893 01:43:09,133 --> 01:43:10,566 like this. I can go like that 2894 01:43:10,566 --> 01:43:14,066 I can make this same sign with the in in 2895 01:43:14,066 --> 01:43:15,133 vr. I can do that. 2896 01:43:15,133 --> 01:43:16,866 Oh, that's sick as fuck 2897 01:43:17,733 --> 01:43:19,199 Yeah, but why would you do that on a 2898 01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:20,233 traditional controller? 2899 01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:22,633 Well, we we don't know 2900 01:43:23,033 --> 01:43:24,266 For certain why we 2901 01:43:24,266 --> 01:43:26,066 just know that it exists 2902 01:43:26,233 --> 01:43:28,333 It's up. It's up to the pioneers to 2903 01:43:28,333 --> 01:43:30,033 figure out what that could be used for 2904 01:43:30,566 --> 01:43:32,133 That is true. High tech also 2905 01:43:33,033 --> 01:43:35,366 This controller is going to be paired 2906 01:43:35,366 --> 01:43:37,433 with my understanding is this controller 2907 01:43:37,433 --> 01:43:38,866 will be paired with the 2908 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:40,533 steamframe 2909 01:43:41,133 --> 01:43:42,833 vr headset so 2910 01:43:43,433 --> 01:43:43,866 um 2911 01:43:44,466 --> 01:43:46,433 Like instead of having two individual 2912 01:43:46,433 --> 01:43:47,166 knuckles controllers 2913 01:43:47,266 --> 01:43:48,833 It's going to be like you're playing 2914 01:43:48,833 --> 01:43:52,133 steam games on a virtual screen and you 2915 01:43:52,133 --> 01:43:54,466 can do at least something like that. I 2916 01:43:55,433 --> 01:43:57,166 Well, that's my that's the roi controller 2917 01:43:57,166 --> 01:43:59,100 is the one that has that's going to go 2918 01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:01,433 with the vr headset. Oh is it? Oh, yeah 2919 01:44:01,433 --> 01:44:02,699 Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah, 2920 01:44:02,699 --> 01:44:04,166 they have these roi controllers here 2921 01:44:04,566 --> 01:44:07,366 But maybe it's to make it compatible with 2922 01:44:07,366 --> 01:44:08,666 it still make it compatible. Yeah 2923 01:44:09,133 --> 01:44:10,300 Yeah, I mean, I don't know 2924 01:44:10,300 --> 01:44:11,666 I mean, it's just another thing that you 2925 01:44:11,666 --> 01:44:14,166 can use steam input for you can then you 2926 01:44:14,166 --> 01:44:15,733 can put sprint in there or something 2927 01:44:15,733 --> 01:44:17,533 Like that. Yeah, you could use it for 2928 01:44:17,533 --> 01:44:19,766 feel it. You could use it for hot deals 2929 01:44:19,766 --> 01:44:21,666 potentially. Yeah. Yeah, that's true 2930 01:44:21,666 --> 01:44:23,133 I do I would want to feel the buttons 2931 01:44:23,133 --> 01:44:24,566 too. I don't know. 2932 01:44:24,566 --> 01:44:25,766 That's pretty good haptics 2933 01:44:25,766 --> 01:44:26,733 They might just put haptics 2934 01:44:26,733 --> 01:44:29,100 in the like grip uh thingy 2935 01:44:29,433 --> 01:44:30,733 Whether it's a button or like a pressure 2936 01:44:30,733 --> 01:44:32,766 sensitive thing. I don't know what I 2937 01:44:32,766 --> 01:44:33,966 don't know what it would be to be honest 2938 01:44:34,733 --> 01:44:37,100 Whatever gimmick that they do with it 2939 01:44:37,433 --> 01:44:39,600 What I hope is that it's optional 2940 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,733 And has all of the things 2941 01:44:43,433 --> 01:44:45,133 that a regular controller has 2942 01:44:45,833 --> 01:44:46,966 So that you can use it 2943 01:44:46,966 --> 01:44:48,733 for 99 percent of games 2944 01:44:49,433 --> 01:44:53,366 But also have access to the trackpads and 2945 01:44:53,366 --> 01:44:55,100 whatever weirdness that sadly it's 2946 01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:56,066 bradley's talking about 2947 01:44:56,633 --> 01:44:58,833 Um, that would be awesome. I mean 2948 01:44:59,366 --> 01:45:00,933 It looks like it looks like that's going 2949 01:45:00,933 --> 01:45:01,966 to be the case. I mean this 2950 01:45:01,966 --> 01:45:03,600 model was apparently leaked 2951 01:45:04,866 --> 01:45:06,766 So at the very least they've certainly 2952 01:45:06,766 --> 01:45:08,433 thought about or are thinking 2953 01:45:08,433 --> 01:45:09,800 of making something like that 2954 01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,933 I mean get your d-pad your analog sticks 2955 01:45:12,933 --> 01:45:14,433 your face buttons start select 2956 01:45:14,633 --> 01:45:14,699 Uh 2957 01:45:16,399 --> 01:45:17,733 The bumpers and triggers 2958 01:45:17,733 --> 01:45:19,433 like you even got trackpads here 2959 01:45:20,333 --> 01:45:22,233 Oh speaking of which I never realized 2960 01:45:22,233 --> 01:45:23,866 this until very recently but 2961 01:45:24,399 --> 01:45:26,766 None of the current consoles call their 2962 01:45:26,766 --> 01:45:29,199 start and select buttons start and select 2963 01:45:30,133 --> 01:45:31,300 Yeah, it's menu in view 2964 01:45:31,966 --> 01:45:34,133 Yeah xbox has a menu in view playstation 2965 01:45:34,133 --> 01:45:37,466 calls it option and uh share share 2966 01:45:38,500 --> 01:45:40,333 And then nintendo calls it plus and minus 2967 01:45:41,133 --> 01:45:42,266 but no start and select 2968 01:45:44,199 --> 01:45:45,699 Which is very odd to me 2969 01:45:46,899 --> 01:45:48,199 I mean I still call it start and select 2970 01:45:49,133 --> 01:45:49,466 Yeah 2971 01:45:51,033 --> 01:45:52,100 And I think people know what 2972 01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:53,633 i'm talking. All right, but okay 2973 01:45:55,533 --> 01:45:56,633 Here's the thing though 2974 01:45:57,666 --> 01:45:59,633 Calling it menu and view is very 2975 01:45:59,633 --> 01:46:00,566 confusing because I 2976 01:46:00,566 --> 01:46:01,966 don't know which one's which 2977 01:46:02,433 --> 01:46:03,666 Menu is menus on the right 2978 01:46:05,433 --> 01:46:05,800 Yeah 2979 01:46:06,666 --> 01:46:07,433 View is on the left 2980 01:46:08,466 --> 01:46:09,633 Yeah, okay 2981 01:46:10,233 --> 01:46:11,766 That makes a little more sense now 2982 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,266 But I still think the names are bad 2983 01:46:15,033 --> 01:46:15,366 Yes 2984 01:46:15,933 --> 01:46:18,233 Sure. Yeah, that makes it but it's better 2985 01:46:18,233 --> 01:46:19,233 than like a you know, a 2986 01:46:19,233 --> 01:46:20,899 touchscreen input where it's like 2987 01:46:21,366 --> 01:46:23,333 left button top right 2988 01:46:23,566 --> 01:46:25,399 I don't know. I don't fucking know man 2989 01:46:25,399 --> 01:46:28,833 Sony this whack because the share button 2990 01:46:28,833 --> 01:46:30,300 is a dedicated share button 2991 01:46:30,633 --> 01:46:32,300 And if you and options is 2992 01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:33,666 typically like the start function 2993 01:46:34,066 --> 01:46:35,533 And if you want to do anything select you 2994 01:46:35,533 --> 01:46:37,566 gotta click the trackpads in on the like 2995 01:46:37,566 --> 01:46:39,333 dual sense or dual shock 4 whatever 2996 01:46:39,766 --> 01:46:41,066 To do things like that 2997 01:46:41,066 --> 01:46:42,199 like the select button 2998 01:46:42,866 --> 01:46:44,866 And it just feels wrong 2999 01:46:46,399 --> 01:46:46,766 Yeah 3000 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,266 These share button is really weird. I 3001 01:46:49,266 --> 01:46:50,566 keep I miss press it 3002 01:46:50,566 --> 01:46:51,366 all the time in games 3003 01:46:51,433 --> 01:46:54,366 But I think we're definitely past the 3004 01:46:54,366 --> 01:46:55,366 start select start select 3005 01:46:55,366 --> 01:46:56,733 doesn't make sense any either 3006 01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:58,466 as 3007 01:46:59,033 --> 01:47:01,800 Uh navigating operating systems, uh 3008 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:02,566 console operating systems 3009 01:47:02,566 --> 01:47:03,566 got a lot more complicated 3010 01:47:04,633 --> 01:47:06,933 The thing is too is like select has never 3011 01:47:06,933 --> 01:47:08,533 made sense as the name for that button 3012 01:47:08,533 --> 01:47:09,666 either because like 3013 01:47:09,666 --> 01:47:10,933 aside from a few games 3014 01:47:10,933 --> 01:47:12,233 on the nes like 3015 01:47:12,866 --> 01:47:15,033 It never did selected anything 3016 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:17,933 Yeah on the nes you would push it and it 3017 01:47:17,933 --> 01:47:19,100 would move to different 3018 01:47:19,866 --> 01:47:21,366 Options and then you would press start. 3019 01:47:21,366 --> 01:47:22,133 So like if you were 3020 01:47:22,133 --> 01:47:24,066 selecting one player you'd hit select 3021 01:47:24,933 --> 01:47:26,066 A couple times. So like if 3022 01:47:26,066 --> 01:47:27,233 you're doing the contour code 3023 01:47:28,199 --> 01:47:29,533 It's up up down down left 3024 01:47:29,533 --> 01:47:30,833 right left right b a start 3025 01:47:31,433 --> 01:47:33,199 But if you're playing it multiplayer 3026 01:47:33,933 --> 01:47:35,933 You hit select start so that you can 3027 01:47:35,933 --> 01:47:38,899 select two player like that's where it 3028 01:47:38,899 --> 01:47:39,933 came from originally 3029 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,466 But then people wanted an extra button 3030 01:47:42,633 --> 01:47:44,233 So they would say you would use the 3031 01:47:44,233 --> 01:47:46,466 select button as the extra 3032 01:47:46,466 --> 01:47:48,433 button in the game to do things 3033 01:47:49,266 --> 01:47:50,166 But I don't think it 3034 01:47:50,166 --> 01:47:51,366 matters what you call them 3035 01:47:52,566 --> 01:47:53,733 I'm just i'm probably just still gonna 3036 01:47:53,733 --> 01:47:54,966 call them starting select till the end of 3037 01:47:54,966 --> 01:47:56,166 time to be honest, but 3038 01:47:57,133 --> 01:47:57,666 No one's gonna 3039 01:47:57,666 --> 01:47:58,666 understand what you're saying 3040 01:47:59,366 --> 01:48:00,966 Yeah, maybe if you're like a zoom maybe 3041 01:48:00,966 --> 01:48:02,500 you have like a zoomer you might not 3042 01:48:02,500 --> 01:48:03,633 understand what i'm saying 3043 01:48:04,233 --> 01:48:05,500 Gen alpha more like 3044 01:48:05,500 --> 01:48:07,500 gen alpha too. Damn damn 3045 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:12,899 But you know all this 3046 01:48:12,899 --> 01:48:14,899 talk of fried chicken 3047 01:48:15,933 --> 01:48:16,399 and 3048 01:48:17,033 --> 01:48:18,466 You know what gen you know what gen alpha 3049 01:48:18,466 --> 01:48:19,466 is addicted to though 3050 01:48:19,466 --> 01:48:21,966 according to sata nadella 3051 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:23,166 tiktok 3052 01:48:25,266 --> 01:48:26,866 Microsoft uh phil 3053 01:48:26,866 --> 01:48:29,433 spencer and also sata nadella 3054 01:48:29,833 --> 01:48:31,833 Has claimed that gaming's true enemy 3055 01:48:32,566 --> 01:48:34,733 Is not playstation or 3056 01:48:34,733 --> 01:48:36,633 nintendo. It's tiktok 3057 01:48:41,833 --> 01:48:44,100 So if you really think about it though 3058 01:48:44,733 --> 01:48:45,366 All of these 3059 01:48:46,066 --> 01:48:47,266 Are x-boxes, right? 3060 01:48:48,233 --> 01:48:50,000 But they're also all tiktok machines 3061 01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,600 except for this bento 3062 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:52,500 and cat box, of course 3063 01:48:53,366 --> 01:48:56,633 Look I didn't read his plan. I don't know 3064 01:48:56,633 --> 01:48:57,266 anything about his 3065 01:48:57,266 --> 01:48:59,066 plan, but he is correct that 3066 01:48:59,699 --> 01:49:00,500 short-form video 3067 01:49:01,266 --> 01:49:04,233 Is a real competitor to video games and 3068 01:49:04,233 --> 01:49:06,566 movies and tv shows and all of that stuff 3069 01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:09,033 He I get what he's saying 3070 01:49:09,033 --> 01:49:10,500 But at the same time though you can argue 3071 01:49:10,500 --> 01:49:12,266 that about anything you can argue that 3072 01:49:12,266 --> 01:49:13,433 about going outside too 3073 01:49:13,833 --> 01:49:17,000 And go go no, but it is bill 3074 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:18,433 is I think 100 correct here 3075 01:49:19,199 --> 01:49:20,566 But we're not having an 3076 01:49:20,566 --> 01:49:22,000 epidemic of kids going outside 3077 01:49:22,566 --> 01:49:24,866 They are 100 stuck on 3078 01:49:24,866 --> 01:49:26,033 tiktok scrolling all day 3079 01:49:26,566 --> 01:49:27,766 And if you're doing that you're not 3080 01:49:27,766 --> 01:49:28,966 playing games, maybe we should have an 3081 01:49:28,966 --> 01:49:30,333 epic bag of kids going outside 3082 01:49:30,866 --> 01:49:33,033 We should we already have established 3083 01:49:33,033 --> 01:49:34,100 that like there's a lot 3084 01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:35,566 of dark patterns on tiktok 3085 01:49:36,166 --> 01:49:38,333 But it is I guess good to have maybe 3086 01:49:38,333 --> 01:49:39,666 another ally to say hey 3087 01:49:40,066 --> 01:49:42,266 You know, we'd probably still rather have 3088 01:49:42,266 --> 01:49:44,333 them playing a video game than uh, just 3089 01:49:44,333 --> 01:49:45,733 scrolling tiktok all day 3090 01:49:46,666 --> 01:49:49,366 So it makes it makes me want to he just 3091 01:49:49,366 --> 01:49:50,666 wants to be able to monetize 3092 01:49:50,666 --> 01:49:51,899 them. That's very different 3093 01:49:52,399 --> 01:49:55,433 I know I agree. I agree, but 3094 01:49:56,333 --> 01:49:58,933 At least there's some in fighting behind 3095 01:49:58,933 --> 01:50:00,500 some of the big giants 3096 01:50:00,500 --> 01:50:02,133 That's all I care about in the sense of 3097 01:50:02,133 --> 01:50:03,633 getting rid of these dark patterns 3098 01:50:05,533 --> 01:50:06,133 But I 3099 01:50:06,466 --> 01:50:07,566 I think it's less 3100 01:50:07,833 --> 01:50:09,533 He wants to get rid of them and more so 3101 01:50:09,533 --> 01:50:11,466 he wants to use them to so that people 3102 01:50:11,466 --> 01:50:13,366 can play xbox instead of tiktoking 3103 01:50:13,366 --> 01:50:13,966 because I mean 3104 01:50:15,366 --> 01:50:16,800 And also here's the thing too 3105 01:50:17,533 --> 01:50:19,166 No one's mentioning this because they 3106 01:50:19,166 --> 01:50:20,666 don't want to be like oh tiktok's it's 3107 01:50:20,666 --> 01:50:21,899 damaging our short-term memory 3108 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,433 but like our short-term 3109 01:50:23,433 --> 01:50:25,033 attention span, but like 3110 01:50:26,366 --> 01:50:28,933 I can see kids getting very bored of like 3111 01:50:28,933 --> 01:50:30,766 long like they're making games that are 3112 01:50:30,766 --> 01:50:32,066 longer and longer, right? 3113 01:50:32,633 --> 01:50:34,233 But you know gta 5 3114 01:50:34,233 --> 01:50:36,000 existed before tiktok, right? 3115 01:50:36,266 --> 01:50:39,133 GTA 6 it will be the first gta new 3116 01:50:39,133 --> 01:50:41,333 release to come out after tick the tiktok 3117 01:50:41,333 --> 01:50:42,566 generation, you know 3118 01:50:42,733 --> 01:50:43,533 Existed and was 3119 01:50:43,533 --> 01:50:44,766 thoroughly corrupt by tiktok 3120 01:50:45,433 --> 01:50:47,133 And gta no doubt is 3121 01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:48,566 going to be a long ass game 3122 01:50:50,866 --> 01:50:53,766 And kids are a pretty strong demographic 3123 01:50:53,766 --> 01:50:55,366 when it comes to these not i'm sure a lot 3124 01:50:55,366 --> 01:50:56,766 of adults are gonna buy gta 6 3125 01:50:56,866 --> 01:50:59,066 But the kid but it's usually the kids 3126 01:50:59,066 --> 01:51:01,199 that are on gta 5 or were 3127 01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:02,600 on gta 5 when they were kids 3128 01:51:03,766 --> 01:51:04,633 Do you think they even 3129 01:51:04,633 --> 01:51:06,166 have the mental like? 3130 01:51:07,366 --> 01:51:08,566 Span the play a game as 3131 01:51:08,566 --> 01:51:10,533 long as gta 6 for a long time 3132 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:15,233 Well, are they gonna have a touch screen 3133 01:51:15,233 --> 01:51:17,233 controller for gta 5 or 6? 3134 01:51:17,933 --> 01:51:19,966 Because I mean kids kids nowadays don't 3135 01:51:19,966 --> 01:51:21,533 even play xbox or 3136 01:51:21,533 --> 01:51:23,300 playstation unless their dads 3137 01:51:23,300 --> 01:51:27,133 Let them do it, you know 3138 01:51:27,133 --> 01:51:27,766 Like it's gently 3139 01:51:28,399 --> 01:51:30,500 gta on a touch screen 3140 01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:34,966 Well, I mean that's just you get used to 3141 01:51:34,966 --> 01:51:35,666 the controls you're you get used to 3142 01:51:35,933 --> 01:51:39,266 Gen z doesn't play games from under 3143 01:51:39,266 --> 01:51:41,333 saying quite as much as uh, millenials 3144 01:51:41,333 --> 01:51:43,466 gen alpha still to be determined 3145 01:51:43,533 --> 01:51:46,933 um, I know my kids play with controllers 3146 01:51:46,933 --> 01:51:48,833 they play different types of games they 3147 01:51:49,133 --> 01:51:52,266 So far but they're still pretty young. I 3148 01:51:52,266 --> 01:51:53,333 will have to see once they get into like 3149 01:51:53,333 --> 01:51:55,199 more story driven stuff how 3150 01:51:55,366 --> 01:51:57,633 They're affected by this but 3151 01:51:59,300 --> 01:52:02,033 All I know is I don't play long games 3152 01:52:02,033 --> 01:52:02,933 because I don't have 3153 01:52:02,933 --> 01:52:03,333 the attention span for it 3154 01:52:03,666 --> 01:52:06,966 And I don't use tick tock so 3155 01:52:06,966 --> 01:52:10,166 Or youtube shorts like I I don't use 3156 01:52:10,166 --> 01:52:11,566 short short form video. 3157 01:52:11,566 --> 01:52:13,633 I just don't have time 3158 01:52:14,833 --> 01:52:16,766 Yeah, so when I when 3159 01:52:16,766 --> 01:52:19,833 When when he's talking about we're 3160 01:52:19,833 --> 01:52:22,333 looking to compete for their time 3161 01:52:22,333 --> 01:52:24,166 Not the money 3162 01:52:24,166 --> 01:52:25,500 He's right 3163 01:52:28,266 --> 01:52:28,933 Yeah, it makes a lot more sense 3164 01:52:29,133 --> 01:52:32,333 When it's put like that because I mean on 3165 01:52:32,333 --> 01:52:33,133 the onset it sounds 3166 01:52:33,133 --> 01:52:34,233 completely ridiculous, right? 3167 01:52:34,866 --> 01:52:36,533 But when you really look into a little 3168 01:52:36,533 --> 01:52:37,633 deeper, it actually 3169 01:52:37,633 --> 01:52:38,800 makes a little bit of sense 3170 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:40,866 but I 3171 01:52:40,866 --> 01:52:43,466 Don't yeah, because I mean microsoft 3172 01:52:43,466 --> 01:52:44,266 still wins at the end 3173 01:52:44,266 --> 01:52:45,266 of the day if you play 3174 01:52:45,266 --> 01:52:48,600 Halo on your playstation 5 right? They 3175 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,866 still make some money and yeah, that's 3176 01:52:50,866 --> 01:52:52,266 obviously been the goal the whole time 3177 01:52:52,733 --> 01:52:53,966 Like people are worried about xbox dying 3178 01:52:54,033 --> 01:52:55,066 xbox dying 3179 01:52:56,066 --> 01:52:57,033 xbox 3180 01:52:57,666 --> 01:52:59,266 Microsoft still makes money though. So it 3181 01:52:59,266 --> 01:53:00,733 doesn't really so route to them. It 3182 01:53:00,733 --> 01:53:02,033 doesn't really matter if xbox 3183 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:03,600 as a 3184 01:53:03,933 --> 01:53:05,733 First party console dies 3185 01:53:06,333 --> 01:53:08,133 Because microsoft will still make money. 3186 01:53:08,133 --> 01:53:10,133 They still have a lot of 3187 01:53:10,133 --> 01:53:11,866 ip's and a lot of studios 3188 01:53:12,466 --> 01:53:13,533 It's just a matter of getting 3189 01:53:14,233 --> 01:53:16,266 Those games straight because honestly 3190 01:53:16,266 --> 01:53:17,966 that's they haven't 3191 01:53:17,966 --> 01:53:19,600 been on the best hot streak 3192 01:53:20,399 --> 01:53:22,033 for some for some of the games 3193 01:53:23,233 --> 01:53:24,333 I thought halo infinite was 3194 01:53:24,333 --> 01:53:25,733 fine. But you know, it was just 3195 01:53:26,733 --> 01:53:28,233 Maybe I was just really I don't know. 3196 01:53:28,233 --> 01:53:30,433 Maybe I just wasn't into halo infinite 3197 01:53:32,133 --> 01:53:33,166 Halos are definitely 3198 01:53:33,833 --> 01:53:35,800 Down-trending. I think xbox is a console 3199 01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,333 and hardware maker is down 3200 01:53:37,333 --> 01:53:39,199 trending. But them as a publisher 3201 01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:40,300 That's where they're setting themselves 3202 01:53:40,300 --> 01:53:43,266 up is for like game pass 3203 01:53:43,266 --> 01:53:44,833 subscriptions publisher 3204 01:53:44,833 --> 01:53:46,566 They want to be one of the biggest and 3205 01:53:46,566 --> 01:53:48,066 best game publishers 3206 01:53:48,966 --> 01:53:50,466 Um make the best that's what 3207 01:53:50,466 --> 01:53:51,433 the you know what i've heard 3208 01:53:51,933 --> 01:53:52,366 uh 3209 01:53:53,533 --> 01:53:54,966 in the world and 3210 01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,166 They're definitely they're starting to 3211 01:53:57,166 --> 01:53:58,066 trend towards that 3212 01:53:58,066 --> 01:53:59,533 but we still have to see 3213 01:54:00,166 --> 01:54:01,233 some major games 3214 01:54:01,933 --> 01:54:03,933 From some other ip come out and we have 3215 01:54:03,933 --> 01:54:05,399 not seen that yet. Yeah, and also 3216 01:54:05,933 --> 01:54:07,433 This wasn't the first time someone in the 3217 01:54:07,433 --> 01:54:08,100 games industry 3218 01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:10,066 mentioned tiktok being the enemy 3219 01:54:11,133 --> 01:54:14,333 shon laden mentioned tiktok as well back 3220 01:54:14,333 --> 01:54:15,466 when he was still with playstation 3221 01:54:17,833 --> 01:54:18,233 See 3222 01:54:19,266 --> 01:54:20,433 and he mentioned 3223 01:54:22,766 --> 01:54:25,100 I think oh wow according to this there 3224 01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:26,566 will be a comment when we all declare the 3225 01:54:26,566 --> 01:54:28,933 war is over the future video games 3226 01:54:29,033 --> 01:54:29,899 What's this article 3227 01:54:29,899 --> 01:54:31,566 about? Let's see tiktok 3228 01:54:33,266 --> 01:54:36,233 See an audience leaving for tiktok 3229 01:54:37,266 --> 01:54:39,133 We're not growing the next generation. 3230 01:54:39,133 --> 01:54:39,833 We're losing the next 3231 01:54:39,833 --> 01:54:41,199 generation of tiktok he says 3232 01:54:42,566 --> 01:54:44,566 So maybe there's maybe there's something 3233 01:54:44,566 --> 01:54:47,066 to be said about you know, phil spencer 3234 01:54:47,066 --> 01:54:48,133 and satella nandella 3235 01:54:49,133 --> 01:54:50,733 Talking about losing the 3236 01:54:50,733 --> 01:54:52,000 next generation of tiktok 3237 01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,866 I mean because I mean the reason the only 3238 01:54:55,866 --> 01:54:57,333 reason why we like games so much is 3239 01:54:57,333 --> 01:54:58,100 because we've probably been 3240 01:54:58,333 --> 01:54:59,300 Inductuated when we were 3241 01:54:59,300 --> 01:55:01,333 younger into video games, right? 3242 01:55:03,066 --> 01:55:05,333 We were indoctrinated we liked it if they 3243 01:55:05,333 --> 01:55:06,866 like tiktok and they don't really like 3244 01:55:06,866 --> 01:55:08,800 video games and those are customers 3245 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:09,933 They're not getting their their 3246 01:55:09,933 --> 01:55:11,500 customers. They're not getting so I can 3247 01:55:11,500 --> 01:55:12,866 see why they're so concerned 3248 01:55:12,866 --> 01:55:14,433 with tiktok in youtube shorts 3249 01:55:15,533 --> 01:55:16,866 Oh also on the topic of 3250 01:55:16,866 --> 01:55:18,433 tiktok in youtube shorts, I think 3251 01:55:19,066 --> 01:55:20,633 Most of the content kind of sucks to be 3252 01:55:20,633 --> 01:55:22,100 honest. They don't really 3253 01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:23,833 have high quality content on 3254 01:55:24,566 --> 01:55:26,533 Well, i'm not saying they don't but like 3255 01:55:26,533 --> 01:55:27,966 a lot of it is not that 3256 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,666 a lot of it is just it's not meant to be 3257 01:55:30,666 --> 01:55:31,633 it's not yeah, I guess 3258 01:55:31,633 --> 01:55:32,766 it's not meant to be but 3259 01:55:33,733 --> 01:55:35,466 It's just so vapid 3260 01:55:36,033 --> 01:55:37,766 Like it's it's hard to make quality 3261 01:55:37,766 --> 01:55:41,133 content when you only have 30 seconds to 3262 01:55:41,133 --> 01:55:42,533 a minute to make your point 3263 01:55:43,133 --> 01:55:44,266 No, well, I think you know what I mean. 3264 01:55:44,466 --> 01:55:45,933 Yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah 3265 01:55:47,766 --> 01:55:49,166 I will say if you're looking for 3266 01:55:49,166 --> 01:55:51,233 somebody, you know, the the one person 3267 01:55:51,233 --> 01:55:52,399 that I watch for 3268 01:55:52,399 --> 01:55:54,399 youtube shorts is tom cardi 3269 01:55:55,166 --> 01:55:55,866 Uh, he makes 3270 01:55:56,566 --> 01:55:59,666 Like, um joke songs and he's hilarious 3271 01:56:00,566 --> 01:56:02,266 So make sure you check out his stuff 3272 01:56:03,033 --> 01:56:04,833 He's the one that did the dnd one where 3273 01:56:04,833 --> 01:56:07,333 perception check if you haven't seen the 3274 01:56:07,333 --> 01:56:08,333 perception check song 3275 01:56:08,933 --> 01:56:09,633 You got to watch it. 3276 01:56:09,633 --> 01:56:10,866 It's great. It's good 3277 01:56:11,933 --> 01:56:12,466 All right 3278 01:56:13,266 --> 01:56:15,000 but on the topic of competition 3279 01:56:16,466 --> 01:56:17,566 Nintendo has some serious 3280 01:56:17,566 --> 01:56:19,399 competition with pow world 3281 01:56:20,966 --> 01:56:22,466 The japanese patent off 3282 01:56:22,466 --> 01:56:25,266 office rejects a nintendo patent 3283 01:56:27,233 --> 01:56:28,133 Of nintendo patent 3284 01:56:28,133 --> 01:56:29,833 that would more or less 3285 01:56:31,133 --> 01:56:33,233 I forget the patent number revolves 3286 01:56:33,233 --> 01:56:34,366 around capturing creatures 3287 01:56:34,366 --> 01:56:35,699 by throwing an object at it 3288 01:56:36,266 --> 01:56:36,833 You know, you know 3289 01:56:36,833 --> 01:56:37,766 throwing a pokeball, right? 3290 01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:39,933 And that patent was 3291 01:56:39,933 --> 01:56:42,866 rejected and uh, of course 3292 01:56:44,333 --> 01:56:46,066 That doesn't mean the case is over but 3293 01:56:46,066 --> 01:56:48,733 that means that that pocket pair now has 3294 01:56:48,733 --> 01:56:50,733 a stronger case against nintendo 3295 01:56:52,966 --> 01:56:54,333 They might be able to defend themselves 3296 01:56:54,333 --> 01:56:55,600 and keep power world alive 3297 01:56:56,233 --> 01:56:57,566 All right. We've talked about this a 3298 01:56:57,566 --> 01:56:58,766 number of times. We're 3299 01:56:58,766 --> 01:57:00,500 following it because you know 3300 01:57:00,566 --> 01:57:02,066 Video game patents are steven 3301 01:57:03,533 --> 01:57:04,500 But also it's kind of an 3302 01:57:04,500 --> 01:57:06,100 important case to see here, right? 3303 01:57:09,533 --> 01:57:10,366 Yeah, yeah 3304 01:57:10,866 --> 01:57:12,366 This is a this is a nice little update 3305 01:57:12,366 --> 01:57:14,733 that I saw during the week that oh, hey 3306 01:57:14,866 --> 01:57:16,699 It looks like nintendo's maybe not going 3307 01:57:16,699 --> 01:57:17,833 to win everything that they 3308 01:57:17,833 --> 01:57:19,766 want to win and this is I think 3309 01:57:20,233 --> 01:57:22,666 at least a good step in some of 3310 01:57:23,366 --> 01:57:24,500 What nintendo's trying 3311 01:57:24,500 --> 01:57:25,733 to do with their patents? 3312 01:57:26,533 --> 01:57:29,133 I I was shocked that that 3313 01:57:29,133 --> 01:57:31,033 this was the japanese case too 3314 01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,266 Yes, no because like I thought I figured 3315 01:57:34,266 --> 01:57:35,366 oh they'll win in japan 3316 01:57:36,333 --> 01:57:38,699 But uh, you know in europe and in the 3317 01:57:38,699 --> 01:57:39,466 states, they might 3318 01:57:39,466 --> 01:57:41,100 not win quite as easily 3319 01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,233 And no, it looks like they said no, this 3320 01:57:44,233 --> 01:57:45,899 was uh, what did they say? They said 3321 01:57:45,899 --> 01:57:48,766 their patent wasn't it lacks innovation 3322 01:57:48,766 --> 01:57:51,466 It lacks innovation. It lacks innovation 3323 01:57:51,466 --> 01:57:53,166 which I was like hell. Yes, 3324 01:57:53,166 --> 01:57:55,166 they also they also mentioned 3325 01:57:55,533 --> 01:57:58,266 Uh some other games too the examples of 3326 01:57:58,266 --> 01:57:59,633 prior arts before nintendo 3327 01:57:59,633 --> 01:58:01,266 patented this for example, uh, 3328 01:58:01,766 --> 01:58:03,000 They mentioned monster 3329 01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,533 hunter four as one example 3330 01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,399 They mentioned arc survival evolved and 3331 01:58:08,399 --> 01:58:10,300 they also mentioned pocket pairs other 3332 01:58:10,300 --> 01:58:12,233 game that they released called craftopia 3333 01:58:12,233 --> 01:58:14,066 Have you guys ever heard of this one? 3334 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:16,399 No, no, it's kind of 3335 01:58:16,399 --> 01:58:17,266 like breath of the wild 3336 01:58:18,566 --> 01:58:20,199 But like with some poking look like 3337 01:58:20,199 --> 01:58:22,199 crafting elements and like pokemon 3338 01:58:24,566 --> 01:58:26,133 Elements they kind of look it kind of 3339 01:58:26,133 --> 01:58:28,233 vaguely resembles power will to be honest 3340 01:58:28,466 --> 01:58:31,333 Which is kind of crazy to me except, you 3341 01:58:31,333 --> 01:58:31,966 know without the 3342 01:58:31,966 --> 01:58:34,366 various different pal pokemans 3343 01:58:35,133 --> 01:58:36,866 Oh, look you can convey 3344 01:58:36,866 --> 01:58:38,466 about cows into the soup 3345 01:58:39,766 --> 01:58:42,266 I I have a serious question about this 3346 01:58:42,266 --> 01:58:44,566 patent. Yes. Why why 3347 01:58:44,566 --> 01:58:46,666 wouldn't the patent office also? 3348 01:58:47,333 --> 01:58:50,366 Uh mention pokemon as prior art 3349 01:58:52,366 --> 01:58:52,833 Um 3350 01:58:52,966 --> 01:58:55,966 I think it's in the third person sort of 3351 01:58:55,966 --> 01:58:57,033 view. So like you're actually like 3352 01:58:57,533 --> 01:59:01,000 Because like most pokemon games you just 3353 01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:02,399 like the pokemon you kind of just throw 3354 01:59:02,399 --> 01:59:03,433 it right whereas like 3355 01:59:03,433 --> 01:59:05,199 You don't aim you don't ever like 3356 01:59:05,199 --> 01:59:06,933 physically aim the pokeball 3357 01:59:08,300 --> 01:59:09,699 I think that's why is that what they were 3358 01:59:09,699 --> 01:59:11,466 trying to patent. Yeah 3359 01:59:11,466 --> 01:59:14,666 Oh my god. Well, you do that with pokemon 3360 01:59:14,666 --> 01:59:15,966 go and that like that 3361 01:59:15,966 --> 01:59:17,300 existed before they did this 3362 01:59:17,666 --> 01:59:20,433 Like I don't know dude. It seems so 3363 01:59:20,433 --> 01:59:21,433 crazy. It didn't exist before the patent 3364 01:59:21,433 --> 01:59:29,266 I think pokemon go's implementation is a 3365 01:59:29,266 --> 01:59:30,733 little different from what uh 3366 01:59:30,733 --> 01:59:32,833 What they were presenting because they 3367 01:59:32,833 --> 01:59:33,966 were presenting like, you know, you're 3368 01:59:33,966 --> 01:59:35,233 you're in third person 3369 01:59:35,233 --> 01:59:36,133 You're aiming with your 3370 01:59:36,133 --> 01:59:37,899 right stick and you're like, yeah 3371 01:59:37,899 --> 01:59:39,466 So like that's a little different from 3372 01:59:39,466 --> 01:59:40,899 pokemon go where you like 3373 01:59:41,466 --> 01:59:42,966 You like kind of rotate the pokeball a 3374 01:59:42,966 --> 01:59:44,066 little bit and then throw it in curve 3375 01:59:44,066 --> 01:59:45,466 I don't think that the patent was that 3376 01:59:45,466 --> 01:59:47,266 specific. I felt like it was just like if you capture a creature by throwing a 3377 01:59:47,366 --> 01:59:52,366 In-game object at the creature 3378 01:59:52,366 --> 01:59:55,233 And then and that existed before the 3379 01:59:55,233 --> 01:59:56,866 patented but they 3380 01:59:56,866 --> 01:59:59,033 patented it after pal world 3381 01:59:59,033 --> 02:00:01,433 came out so they were like 3382 02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,266 They they here's my what I think happened 3383 02:00:04,266 --> 02:00:06,500 is is nintendo looked at pal world 3384 02:00:06,500 --> 02:00:08,699 They said those are our creature designs 3385 02:00:08,699 --> 02:00:11,133 And then they had some lawyers look at it 3386 02:00:11,133 --> 02:00:11,899 and the lawyers said 3387 02:00:11,899 --> 02:00:13,133 they're different enough 3388 02:00:13,133 --> 02:00:15,100 That we couldn't win we couldn't guarantee a win 3389 02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:19,033 So then nintendo was like well find 3390 02:00:19,033 --> 02:00:20,399 something else that we can do 3391 02:00:21,199 --> 02:00:23,266 And so then they they said why don't you 3392 02:00:23,266 --> 02:00:24,966 guys make a patent for throwing a ball at 3393 02:00:24,966 --> 02:00:26,133 an enemy in a field? 3394 02:00:26,899 --> 02:00:30,966 And we'll sue them for for that if the 3395 02:00:30,966 --> 02:00:32,533 patent gets awarded which it was 3396 02:00:33,133 --> 02:00:36,600 Which is stupid. Yeah, lots of patent. 3397 02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:37,933 Yeah, lots of patents were 3398 02:00:37,933 --> 02:00:40,666 awarded but this does I mean 3399 02:00:40,666 --> 02:00:43,066 The fact that this one was ejected. This 3400 02:00:43,066 --> 02:00:44,066 isn't a family of patents 3401 02:00:44,066 --> 02:00:45,100 too. This isn't just right 3402 02:00:45,533 --> 02:00:47,333 And now an isolated one. It's a family of 3403 02:00:47,333 --> 02:00:49,733 patents regarding capturing mechanics and 3404 02:00:49,733 --> 02:00:51,466 throwing balls at creatures 3405 02:00:52,166 --> 02:00:52,733 so this 3406 02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,533 I mean i'm not i'm not saying this might 3407 02:00:55,533 --> 02:00:57,633 be the silver bullet that pocket pair 3408 02:00:57,633 --> 02:00:58,899 needs to win the case 3409 02:00:59,933 --> 02:01:01,100 But it's definitely something 3410 02:01:02,733 --> 02:01:05,566 It's at least a positive direction where 3411 02:01:05,566 --> 02:01:06,833 it didn't feel like it 3412 02:01:06,833 --> 02:01:07,800 was going to go that route 3413 02:01:08,566 --> 02:01:09,266 Now what i'd really 3414 02:01:09,266 --> 02:01:10,666 like to see is microsoft 3415 02:01:11,199 --> 02:01:12,333 Because they own blizzard 3416 02:01:13,033 --> 02:01:14,500 blizzard had um 3417 02:01:16,166 --> 02:01:17,100 In world of warcraft 3418 02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:18,066 you could play pokemon 3419 02:01:19,266 --> 02:01:21,833 And it wasn't pokemon like because they 3420 02:01:21,833 --> 02:01:22,666 had their own creatures, 3421 02:01:22,666 --> 02:01:25,133 but like literally you would 3422 02:01:25,533 --> 02:01:28,766 Throw a box at a creature and catch it 3423 02:01:28,766 --> 02:01:29,933 and then use it to battle 3424 02:01:29,933 --> 02:01:31,733 other teams of creatures 3425 02:01:32,333 --> 02:01:34,866 it was literally pokemon and 3426 02:01:35,433 --> 02:01:35,800 like 3427 02:01:36,533 --> 02:01:38,333 Nintendo going after pocket pair because 3428 02:01:38,333 --> 02:01:40,166 their pocket pair. They're not going to 3429 02:01:40,166 --> 02:01:42,300 go after microsoft. Of course there's 3430 02:01:42,333 --> 02:01:45,533 Too much money like they they can throw 3431 02:01:45,533 --> 02:01:48,066 so much money at the and at the lawsuit 3432 02:01:48,066 --> 02:01:53,533 I I don't know man. I think i'd like to 3433 02:01:53,533 --> 02:01:55,633 see how this case goes on because it is 3434 02:01:55,633 --> 02:01:57,166 it is pretty important, too 3435 02:01:57,366 --> 02:01:59,833 I because yeah, I mean it's pretty clear 3436 02:01:59,833 --> 02:02:00,566 that they're trying 3437 02:02:00,566 --> 02:02:01,566 to go after pocket pair 3438 02:02:02,399 --> 02:02:03,800 Because you know, they have 3439 02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:06,166 they vaguely resemble pokemon 3440 02:02:08,233 --> 02:02:10,066 And yeah, but of course, you know 3441 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:12,566 There they look more like parodies of 3442 02:02:12,566 --> 02:02:13,699 pokemon, which is why they probably 3443 02:02:13,699 --> 02:02:15,500 couldn't like go directly after them 3444 02:02:16,266 --> 02:02:17,766 Like they're not going after digimon 3445 02:02:17,766 --> 02:02:19,000 digimon has been runs for 3446 02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:20,366 almost as long as pokemon has 3447 02:02:24,199 --> 02:02:26,566 And even like the games like digimon, uh, 3448 02:02:26,566 --> 02:02:27,566 I got the new digimon 3449 02:02:27,566 --> 02:02:28,933 game it's pretty good 3450 02:02:30,199 --> 02:02:32,533 And it's a very it's very similar like 3451 02:02:32,533 --> 02:02:34,566 it's turn based. Yeah your various 3452 02:02:34,566 --> 02:02:35,866 digimon. Yeah, the abilities 3453 02:02:36,466 --> 02:02:37,966 You don't capture them on ball though. 3454 02:02:37,966 --> 02:02:40,066 No, you you fight a couple of the digimon 3455 02:02:40,066 --> 02:02:42,633 Then you then you convert their data into 3456 02:02:42,633 --> 02:02:44,833 like a digimon you can actually use 3457 02:02:44,833 --> 02:02:48,666 I don't know man. There's a lot our world 3458 02:02:48,666 --> 02:02:50,733 is very similar to the pokemon games. 3459 02:02:50,733 --> 02:02:52,699 Yeah, it's more so i'm not 3460 02:02:53,133 --> 02:02:54,833 Overly like when I played the game i'm 3461 02:02:54,833 --> 02:02:56,399 like this is they're gonna get sued 3462 02:02:56,966 --> 02:02:58,566 Not rightfully so but they're gonna get 3463 02:02:58,566 --> 02:03:00,233 sued because nintendo is infamous for 3464 02:03:00,233 --> 02:03:01,933 suing. Yeah, but like it's not it's like 3465 02:03:01,933 --> 02:03:03,333 a parody almost like 3466 02:03:03,366 --> 02:03:06,833 Like it's like it's pokemon with guns 3467 02:03:06,833 --> 02:03:09,333 that enough is like parody they're not 3468 02:03:09,333 --> 02:03:10,899 right there. Yeah, I mean 3469 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:12,066 the I 3470 02:03:12,866 --> 02:03:16,066 In in like a good world with good patent 3471 02:03:16,066 --> 02:03:17,833 system, which I don't even know if I 3472 02:03:17,833 --> 02:03:18,833 fully think the patent 3473 02:03:18,833 --> 02:03:20,066 system is even worth it anymore 3474 02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:21,399 software 3475 02:03:22,166 --> 02:03:25,233 design like uh, especially like ui 3476 02:03:25,233 --> 02:03:26,733 designed ux all that 3477 02:03:27,266 --> 02:03:27,733 mechanics 3478 02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:30,800 Is doesn't make sense to patent and it's 3479 02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:31,733 crazy that you can patent it 3480 02:03:32,733 --> 02:03:34,666 So I mean mechanics I can see a 3481 02:03:34,666 --> 02:03:36,399 similarity between like game mechanics 3482 02:03:36,399 --> 02:03:38,166 and recipes like you 3483 02:03:38,166 --> 02:03:39,433 can't copyright a recipe 3484 02:03:39,899 --> 02:03:40,466 You shouldn't be able 3485 02:03:40,466 --> 02:03:42,166 to patent a game mechanic 3486 02:03:42,733 --> 02:03:44,266 Yeah, you should not be 3487 02:03:44,266 --> 02:03:45,766 able to yeah, and I agree 3488 02:03:45,766 --> 02:03:48,066 Yeah, and like even if someone tries to 3489 02:03:48,066 --> 02:03:49,166 make an approximation of 3490 02:03:49,166 --> 02:03:51,266 your like game mechanic 3491 02:03:51,266 --> 02:03:52,100 They're not going to do it 3492 02:03:52,100 --> 02:03:53,633 perfectly because you know 3493 02:03:53,633 --> 02:03:54,866 That's just kind of how they're gonna 3494 02:03:54,866 --> 02:03:55,866 like will change things 3495 02:03:55,866 --> 02:03:57,833 The whole point is it's not a copyright a 3496 02:03:57,833 --> 02:03:58,699 patent so that they can 3497 02:03:58,733 --> 02:04:00,966 Um that they invested 3498 02:04:00,966 --> 02:04:03,066 that they spent a lot of time 3499 02:04:03,666 --> 02:04:05,800 Working through to build that mechanic, 3500 02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,833 which is not usually not true like 3501 02:04:07,833 --> 02:04:09,466 mechanic like patents 3502 02:04:09,466 --> 02:04:11,366 you go back to spending 3503 02:04:12,066 --> 02:04:14,066 Tons of money on rnd and 3504 02:04:14,066 --> 02:04:15,266 trying to recoup it back 3505 02:04:15,866 --> 02:04:17,633 That's where patents come from that is 3506 02:04:17,633 --> 02:04:19,100 not how it works in the 3507 02:04:19,100 --> 02:04:20,133 software world. Typically 3508 02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:21,633 It does not take a whole 3509 02:04:21,633 --> 02:04:23,433 lot to replicate something 3510 02:04:24,399 --> 02:04:26,199 I mean just imagine if nintendo because 3511 02:04:26,199 --> 02:04:28,033 they invented jumping in video games 3512 02:04:29,199 --> 02:04:30,333 They had jump man 3513 02:04:30,733 --> 02:04:32,800 Yeah, right in the donkey con game 3514 02:04:33,366 --> 02:04:35,833 And what if they patented jumping? 3515 02:04:36,566 --> 02:04:39,433 pressing a button on a ux interface 3516 02:04:40,466 --> 02:04:43,366 And your character jumps and then they 3517 02:04:43,366 --> 02:04:44,266 could stop everybody 3518 02:04:44,266 --> 02:04:45,733 from making jumping games 3519 02:04:46,133 --> 02:04:47,000 Well, you know if the tinder were 3520 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:48,366 smarter, they would have done that but 3521 02:04:48,366 --> 02:04:50,166 yeah, they can't they can't go 3522 02:04:50,166 --> 02:04:52,733 They can't do it. No, I know but i'm just 3523 02:04:52,733 --> 02:04:56,166 showing how stupid this lawsuit is. Yeah, 3524 02:04:56,166 --> 02:04:57,966 I mean no, it's very stupid 3525 02:04:58,033 --> 02:04:58,866 It's very stupid 3526 02:04:59,766 --> 02:05:00,399 And they're also 3527 02:05:00,399 --> 02:05:02,066 choosing to do this very um 3528 02:05:02,066 --> 02:05:03,533 How old does pat I don't 3529 02:05:03,533 --> 02:05:04,533 even think the throwing? 3530 02:05:05,766 --> 02:05:07,633 To capture a pokemon mechanic has been 3531 02:05:07,633 --> 02:05:09,866 patented that long. No, that's apparently 3532 02:05:09,866 --> 02:05:11,233 the whole like family of 3533 02:05:11,233 --> 02:05:13,166 patents was submitted in 2023 3534 02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:15,466 Yep, so it's very 3535 02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:17,666 Shaky on that even now if 3536 02:05:17,666 --> 02:05:19,166 they would have done it way back 3537 02:05:19,766 --> 02:05:21,466 Like maybe like maybe 10 years ago 3538 02:05:21,466 --> 02:05:22,699 But if they had done it when they 3539 02:05:22,699 --> 02:05:24,866 invented like throwing a ball to capture 3540 02:05:24,866 --> 02:05:26,399 a pokemon that patent 3541 02:05:26,399 --> 02:05:27,566 would have expired already 3542 02:05:28,466 --> 02:05:29,766 You can renew the patents 3543 02:05:30,733 --> 02:05:31,066 well 3544 02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:34,733 And most people do a few a few times. You 3545 02:05:34,733 --> 02:05:35,533 can't do it indefinitely 3546 02:05:36,399 --> 02:05:38,133 no, at least in the state 3547 02:05:38,966 --> 02:05:41,933 Yeah, but a lot of patents are renewed 3548 02:05:41,933 --> 02:05:42,966 for a very long time. 3549 02:05:42,966 --> 02:05:43,933 Our patent system's broken 3550 02:05:45,033 --> 02:05:46,800 Well, I mean at the very least if they 3551 02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:48,933 were if they did that when pokemon first 3552 02:05:48,933 --> 02:05:51,433 came out and they renewed it, you know 3553 02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:53,666 Power what couldn't exist the way it does 3554 02:05:53,666 --> 02:05:55,233 now they could probably keep they could 3555 02:05:55,233 --> 02:05:56,666 probably do the they could probably keep 3556 02:05:56,666 --> 02:05:57,433 the creature designs 3557 02:05:57,433 --> 02:05:59,766 But they'd have to change like every 3558 02:05:59,766 --> 02:06:00,566 other thing 3559 02:06:00,566 --> 02:06:03,533 surrounding pokemon pokemon. Yeah 3560 02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:07,666 I you turn into like a rts where you 3561 02:06:07,666 --> 02:06:08,433 control a bunch of 3562 02:06:08,433 --> 02:06:09,899 little pokemon with guns 3563 02:06:10,566 --> 02:06:11,833 That'd be kind of fun to play actually 3564 02:06:12,733 --> 02:06:14,266 Well, then they'd patent 3565 02:06:14,266 --> 02:06:18,133 pickman and then they would sue. Ah 3566 02:06:18,133 --> 02:06:20,399 You sound like an antenna lawyer you 3567 02:06:20,399 --> 02:06:21,366 should work for nintendo 3568 02:06:22,399 --> 02:06:23,266 You've got me doing a 3569 02:06:23,266 --> 02:06:24,466 lot of jobs today high tech 3570 02:06:25,033 --> 02:06:27,300 nintendo hire this man 3571 02:06:29,133 --> 02:06:30,133 You guys you guys have 3572 02:06:30,133 --> 02:06:32,166 heard that phrase, right 3573 02:06:33,199 --> 02:06:34,600 Nintendo hire this man 3574 02:06:35,366 --> 02:06:35,666 no 3575 02:06:36,466 --> 02:06:38,699 It's when someone it's when someone makes 3576 02:06:38,699 --> 02:06:40,833 like an unreal engine remake of like 3577 02:06:40,833 --> 02:06:42,166 mario and they make it 3578 02:06:42,166 --> 02:06:43,466 like all super cinematic 3579 02:06:43,833 --> 02:06:45,666 We're like a remake of the augurian time 3580 02:06:45,666 --> 02:06:48,833 and it looks like a ue 5 game and some 3581 02:06:48,833 --> 02:06:50,033 random guy in the comments going 3582 02:06:50,233 --> 02:06:51,866 nintendo hire this man 3583 02:06:55,199 --> 02:06:56,833 Man it's it's something I 3584 02:06:56,833 --> 02:06:59,333 need an unreal mario probably not 3585 02:06:59,333 --> 02:07:02,699 As a like a fun like I don't need it from 3586 02:07:02,699 --> 02:07:05,033 nintendo themselves as a mod or like a 3587 02:07:05,033 --> 02:07:07,800 I mean nintendo doesn't need I don't 3588 02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:08,866 think nintendo has ever made 3589 02:07:08,866 --> 02:07:10,066 a game in unreal. Have they? 3590 02:07:10,833 --> 02:07:11,133 like 3591 02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:12,733 in-house nintendo 3592 02:07:13,933 --> 02:07:15,666 Probably not they have their own engine 3593 02:07:15,666 --> 02:07:17,100 system a lot of their games 3594 02:07:17,100 --> 02:07:18,133 wouldn't make sense to use 3595 02:07:18,966 --> 02:07:19,966 Yeah, the underlingen 3596 02:07:20,733 --> 02:07:23,033 And for nintendo in a world where 3597 02:07:23,033 --> 02:07:24,866 nintendo does optimize for 3598 02:07:24,866 --> 02:07:26,500 their systems for the most part 3599 02:07:26,966 --> 02:07:29,133 uh game freak doesn't but uh 3600 02:07:29,266 --> 02:07:31,100 They're game freak. So they're 3601 02:07:31,100 --> 02:07:32,633 technically not owned by nintendo 3602 02:07:34,333 --> 02:07:36,300 Which is which is a crazy thing to me 3603 02:07:37,199 --> 02:07:39,133 Well, yes, we need to start 3604 02:07:39,133 --> 02:07:40,033 heading over to the bonuses 3605 02:07:40,966 --> 02:07:41,566 All right 3606 02:07:42,166 --> 02:07:43,966 Well, thanks for joining us on this 3607 02:07:43,966 --> 02:07:45,966 episode of off the console man. It's been 3608 02:07:45,966 --> 02:07:47,166 it's been nice seeing you again 3609 02:07:47,166 --> 02:07:48,133 I know we don't I know we 3610 02:07:48,133 --> 02:07:49,166 don't talk that often but 3611 02:07:50,166 --> 02:07:51,500 You're pretty cool, dude 3612 02:07:53,466 --> 02:07:54,666 Thanks. Yeah, thanks for joining us it 3613 02:07:54,666 --> 02:07:56,733 was great. Thank you. All right. Have a 3614 02:07:56,733 --> 02:07:58,300 good one guys. All right, take care