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Every all the chores that it's showing
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The robots doing in the
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videos none of them are dishes
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This thing is gonna get filthy and you're
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gonna have to clean it all the time
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It's covered in cloth. Like you
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mentioned, it's gonna get filthy. You're
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to have a two pack. Oh,
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yeah, so one can clean the other
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What are you guys doing in here?
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Unit one it is time for your bath
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Welcome to off the console the hottest
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new podcast that's all about gaming tech
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news and anything nerdy
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today. We have a special guest
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Bill from the nerd nest
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podcast welcome. Hey, thanks
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some some pretty crazy stuff. For
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Which is a huge deal and robots you can
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Wait or anything else as you know, we
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guest bill is here. Let's ask him first.
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What have you been
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playing this week bill?
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I've been playing a game called slots and
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daggers, which is a rogue like
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slot machine game kind of inspired or
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three slots in front of you
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in those slots and then like if a dagger
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a shield and then you
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play through for a while
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taking turns you spin the slots
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you can buy more symbols to
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be used on your slot board and
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games have and I just I've been having an
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absolute blast with it
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Have any of you guys played it? I?
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Checked out the demo during the next
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fast, but I didn't realize the full game
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was out. You're talking
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about the full game, right?
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Yep, the full game. I didn't realize I
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was out. Thanks for
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letting me know bill. Yep
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something. I can't remember the exact
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deal, but it's a really
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it's a it's a really good game
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for a very low price
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gambling at in Vegas I?
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theme to it that
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house always wins. Yeah, it's just you
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the game. We die in real life
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That's the ultimate game to
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Did what I didn't plan James
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sorry I have been playing
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birthday, so I was
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like okay. We can do that
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If a fun game definitely
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much better than Borderlands 3
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Critiques for that
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which class did you pick I
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What class did I pick they're so I
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of the size in every game
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but I picked the siren
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the one with like the dual axis. Yeah, it
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was pretty sick actually
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Pretty good character lineup so far
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development is like they have to go
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against bore lands which is just so good
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four-player co-op single players. I've
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And Gardner what have you been playing?
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You know what I actually played a game
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this week. I went back and revisited
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Bioshock on my 360
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it on the 360. Yeah, dude
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Yeah, yeah, I have I
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have a hacked Xbox out here
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that process recently
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need to actually play a game and the only
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one that actually appealed to me
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Do you have Ninja Gaiden 2 on
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the 360? I don't own that. No
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copy of Ninja Gaiden 2 somewhere nice
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those ones because I really like those
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games on the NES are
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they similar haven't I mean
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They're not similar in the fact that you
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know once 3d and the other the old ones
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are 2d but like yeah
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the Ninja Gaiden games.
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I haven't but no dude
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Bioshock is as good as I remember it
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which is wild to me because that game
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of antiquated a lot of these games feel.
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Bioshock does not feel antiquated
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You feel like the controls
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you still like the controls
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hell out of it when it
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came out and like that goes
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spoil is like one of my
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Yes, but whenever I go back and play it
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after having played more modern shooters
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Especially on a controller. I'm like, oh
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if it feels really I don't like the
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layout of the controls
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it. Oh, it's just as bad. I
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not playing many games
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Every week yeah, like we do we open every
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episode with what games we've been
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playing and I don't play games very often
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I try I I want to
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the chance. So going back and playing
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Bioshock feels as good as it did to me
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when I first played it
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Well, you know bill, I'm glad you didn't
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spoil that because I have a confession
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This confessional time
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I've never played
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Bioshock one two or
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infinite. Are you kidding dude?
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I'm not kidding. There's a lot of crazy.
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There's a lot of crazy
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I've also never played
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the Mass Effect games
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Man, you're missing out
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Some of the best from previous
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generations. Yeah, I told I told Noah
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from Steam Big HQ this a while ago and
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His reaction was something else
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that that one moment
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from Bioshock is like
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like in terms of storytelling in games
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and I you guys both know that I
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Really don't like stories in games either
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But Bioshock does it so effectively that
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it's like I mean it makes kind of like
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the waiting around
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for the story to get out
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of my way
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Worthwhile and I really enjoyed that
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That's the thing you you
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don't have to wait around
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Because the story like you pick up it
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through like the audio samples and then
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they're playing while you're walking
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From one place to the next so you're
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never waiting around and
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sitting in at a cutscene
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Right like there's the intro cutscene and
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then most like most of the rest of it
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There aren't cutscenes except for like a
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couple little moments
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But that's the thing like
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when it comes to stories in games
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I'm more in like the valve camp right
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where it's like I don't want the story to
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get in the way of the gameplay
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And that's one of the things that I
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really love about Bioshock story
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Yes, so in terms of what I've been
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playing this week though
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I've been revisiting some I've been
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revisiting Halo more specifically some
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Halo mods because there was so
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Basically Halo exploded when the remake
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was announced and one person mentioned
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that someone was making a Halo
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Kamba evolved remake but in Halo ODST's
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engine as a mod and so I
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Want to check it out, but the mod got
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taken down by the author because they
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were getting harassed
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which is unfortunate
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Yeah, hope they hope they're able to get
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it back up man toes internet sucks
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sometimes but it's not worth
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removing everything you've made
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But uh, I guess this transitions to the
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very first topic that we have here
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finishing this fight
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destroy the flood
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join ice gov
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Is that not isn't that crazy that they'll
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just do this that the
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government can just do this
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Well, they can't
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technically but they can't
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clearly
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McCleary Microsoft hasn't said anything
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as of the making of this episode right
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now. They still haven't said
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anything officially speaking
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They probably won't yeah, they probably
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won't at least Nintendo came up and said
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oh we didn't authorize this
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but you know Nintendo's Nintendo
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but uh
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But the way that attend like the way they
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did the Pokemon song
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and all that that was
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That was pretty crazy. That was pretty
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atrocious. It's just like using a child's
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a children's game and theme to
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Say hey, we're we're gonna catch people
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Yes, like, okay
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Mixing
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Politicians and video
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games like okay, it's okay
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It's one thing if like a politician likes
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video games night for sure. Whatever.
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It's another thing if
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you do shit like this
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Or do what Hillary Clinton did like all
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those years ago and say Pokemon go to the
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polls. Remember that those
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are entirely different levels
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They are entirely
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different. I think they're
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But whereas the Hillary Clinton one was
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just kind of cringe
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this one is just it's fun
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It's it's really fucked up to if you're
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only thinking about it
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Have you seen yeah
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There's a little bit further down with
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the White House and these are both
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official channels that normally are very
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professional in the past
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And they're just
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completely co-opted dude. So
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Yeah, this just got that
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yellow AI piss filter that that
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Dude, it's insane what happened to AI art
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man. It's all yellow piss filters now. I
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Like and I will get a little political
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here, but it's it's all true
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the he he's a
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Draft dodger, right? He did not he dodged
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the draft but he's in a military uniform
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and all that. I think it's very
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funny
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Yeah, well, I think that this kind of
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speaks to who they want
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to be part of ice as well
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Like they think that this is going to
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Like appeal to
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You know gamers
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But like like I think most people are
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seeing like through this. I
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mean as like a transparent
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I don't know. It just seems so
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like beyond the pale silly
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that
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Man, I don't even have words for to
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describe it. But then this also comes
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from Trump who has been
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Decidedly
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against violent video games
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You know no consistency
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He's not against anything other than him
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not having money. That's the
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only thing he's against. Yeah
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Yeah
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so
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We have had people comment on it,
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especially people that worked on Halo
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See
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Mario Donald
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Reactive the ice at he says if he wins he
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will quote work with the Trump
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administration to destroy
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the flood once and for all
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So for those who don't know who didn't
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know apparently mark
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Mario Donald tried to run for
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Nevada's congressional seat. Yeah, and he
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lost because no one knows
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what the fuck his policies are
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Like
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No offense to him, but I don't know I
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don't think there's really
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much of a crossover between
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video game composer and politician
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right
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Well nowadays who knows
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Yeah among the ones that we do know
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Let's see Marcus Leto co-creator of Halo
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and the lead designer of Master Chief
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said that he found it absolute abhorrent
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It makes me sick seeing
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Halo co-opted like this
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Yeah, he doesn't work for
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Microsoft anymore, right I
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Don't believe so. I'm looking up actually
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because I'm gonna I'm
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gonna guess that you know
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Microsoft will keep their mouth shut
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because they might need something
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Well government contracts Microsoft is
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really big with
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government contracts. So I mean
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anything they yank the anti ice app off
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of the phones because they were told by
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the government because they
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like the tech companies want to
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Make sure that the
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government would approve of their
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Mergers and acquisitions. Yeah, see
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Marcus Leto works at EA now, so he's not
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a Microsoft anymore, right?
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So that's why you can
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say whatever we want. Yeah
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Halo veteran
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Jamie Gressamer was a Jaime
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I don't know one of the chief designers
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of several games and sees halo was a
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cultural icon and anything
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Anything like anything with cultural
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capital it is going to be used by
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politicians and brands and
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anyone looking for relevancy
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He told me
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Usually I take out as a cop
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but to halos continuing legacy
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Using halos imagery in a call to quote
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and destroy people because of their
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immigration status and goes way too far
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And not to a friend every halo fan
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regardless of political orientation
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Gressamer said I personally find it
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despicable the flood are an evil space
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our evil spaces on the
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parasites are not an allegory
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to any group of people
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Yeah, I think that's my biggest thing is
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With the destroy the flood is everything
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else. I'm like, okay, whatever
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I don't care if you want like that's up
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to Microsoft to defend their IP. It
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doesn't really ruin much for me
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I'm I already can't think
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any lower of Trump. So but this
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Destroy the flood is so
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Veiled in what the meaning could
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potentially be I really hate it because
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in halos the flood are
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one of the worst zombie
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Creatures that you can
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find in any video game, right?
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They spread so poor like so bad and all
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that and I just don't
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like they could have said
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And they could have just been like hey
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join the fight or whatever
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and just be in the the warthog
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but they had to say destroy
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the flood in there and that is
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Very in my opinion coded see I didn't
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even like draw that
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parallel. I took it at like
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Like base value where they say like
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immigrants are flooding
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the country or whatever
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But but that yeah, that is exactly what
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they're saying like they're they're
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parasites. They're you know
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Yeah, that's what they do say behind
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closed doors or even sometimes an open
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Doors is that they do say parasites to go
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and look at a lot of them
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Even
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Rallies yeah, it's
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pretty
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Apparently what they think and maybe they
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don't understand what destroy
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the flood really means but it
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There are plenty of gamers that do get
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that they might be like, okay cool
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They're really behind me and I'm gonna
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it's just we're at this weird turning
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point. I just don't
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want to see people go more
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Not z-esque with this type of
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rhetoric. I gotta say man. Halo
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The IP has been having such a rough time
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in recent years and this really doesn't
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help it either to be honest
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I feel like Microsoft had we been in a
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different administration would have
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defended their baby, but you know, yeah
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Well, I mean now ice is an Xbox. So it's
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good for Microsoft, right? Damn
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Yeah, he's an Xbox
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Everything's an Xbox
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uh
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It's disgusting
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So someone pointed out
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that this AI flag back here
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Doesn't have 50 stars because you know,
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it's supposed to represent each state
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40
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Something like 10 and so there's the CD
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someone's succeeding for the Union
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hmm
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But yeah is just or I mean all AI does is
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just ripped off other
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people's work and then
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Post it as your own
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There's so many flags though it should
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get the flag right that's why I'm kind of
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shocked by it must
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have processed a lot of
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00:20:22,866 --> 00:20:25,466
Confederate flags or Confederacy kind of
559
00:20:25,466 --> 00:20:27,833
stuff or something. So we had you're not
560
00:20:27,833 --> 00:20:28,500
probably not wrong
561
00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,433
about that. We had it I
562
00:20:31,433 --> 00:20:34,133
I was in a location and there was a TV
563
00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:35,333
that was playing like
564
00:20:36,433 --> 00:20:38,733
It looked like just like some AI
565
00:20:38,733 --> 00:20:40,500
generated images as like
566
00:20:40,733 --> 00:20:43,066
Something to look at or whatever and when
567
00:20:43,066 --> 00:20:43,833
you just look at it out
568
00:20:43,833 --> 00:20:44,766
of the corner of your eye
569
00:20:44,766 --> 00:20:46,633
You don't realize that it's AI
570
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,933
but then
571
00:20:48,633 --> 00:20:50,466
My friend who was there he just points
572
00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:51,799
that he goes those two cars
573
00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:53,133
just drove through each other
574
00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:55,466
And I turned and I looked and yep, they
575
00:20:55,466 --> 00:20:57,900
absolutely did and so like
576
00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:01,866
There's a million cars or flags to
577
00:21:02,366 --> 00:21:06,900
to pull from AI just sucks and
578
00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:08,166
all it does is
579
00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:10,133
Increase the temperature of the planet
580
00:21:10,133 --> 00:21:14,333
for no good reason and it shouldn't like
581
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:17,099
we should just get rid of that shit and
582
00:21:17,099 --> 00:21:18,566
That's what that's what that's why
583
00:21:18,566 --> 00:21:21,733
there's 40 stars on that. I
584
00:21:21,733 --> 00:21:22,000
think
585
00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:26,066
Yeah, well, they don't it like AI doesn't
586
00:21:26,966 --> 00:21:30,066
Have any critical ability and it doesn't
587
00:21:30,066 --> 00:21:32,433
think and it's not concerned about detail
588
00:21:32,566 --> 00:21:35,733
All it is is an algorithm that
589
00:21:36,466 --> 00:21:36,900
produces
590
00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:38,366
likely
591
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,533
Outcomes, right? Like it's
592
00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:41,900
it's literally just like a
593
00:21:42,433 --> 00:21:44,266
It's predictive text on your phone
594
00:21:44,266 --> 00:21:46,966
But with like a billion GPUs behind it
595
00:21:46,966 --> 00:21:48,733
and it's like it doesn't
596
00:21:48,733 --> 00:21:50,599
really care about anything
597
00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:52,566
It has no concern even
598
00:21:52,566 --> 00:21:53,766
like the the self-preservation
599
00:21:53,966 --> 00:21:58,033
Like the emergent self-preservation stuff
600
00:21:58,033 --> 00:21:59,633
is a load of horseshit
601
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,599
It just has to do with the prompting and
602
00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:04,299
the context window and it's
603
00:22:04,299 --> 00:22:05,500
training data and that's it
604
00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,366
It's not thinking it's not capable of
605
00:22:07,366 --> 00:22:10,500
rational thought. It's not even AI
606
00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:13,033
It is just predictive text and or in the
607
00:22:13,033 --> 00:22:14,099
case of generative AI
608
00:22:14,099 --> 00:22:15,599
it's predictive pixels
609
00:22:16,433 --> 00:22:17,533
it's
610
00:22:17,766 --> 00:22:19,066
Sometimes as smart as the person that's
611
00:22:19,066 --> 00:22:20,133
using it and in this case
612
00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:20,933
I don't know what
613
00:22:20,933 --> 00:22:22,866
these is a prompt but yeah
614
00:22:23,299 --> 00:22:24,733
They must have used like a really cheap
615
00:22:24,733 --> 00:22:27,566
model too because I feel like I've had it
616
00:22:27,566 --> 00:22:28,900
print American flags
617
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:30,799
and they got it, right?
618
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,666
And I've had it prints I've done just
619
00:22:33,666 --> 00:22:36,133
mess with AI every once in a while. I'm
620
00:22:36,133 --> 00:22:40,033
part of the problem with the planet but I
621
00:22:40,033 --> 00:22:41,833
Can't I can't help technology throw a
622
00:22:41,833 --> 00:22:42,266
little bit of shiny
623
00:22:42,266 --> 00:22:43,166
technology in front of me
624
00:22:43,166 --> 00:22:45,966
I want to play with it and I don't know
625
00:22:45,966 --> 00:22:46,866
man. I think they've
626
00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:48,000
used a really cheap model
627
00:22:48,966 --> 00:22:52,000
AI is best used for those really dumb
628
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,966
menial tasks that you
629
00:22:52,966 --> 00:22:54,233
hate doing like for example
630
00:22:55,099 --> 00:22:58,433
My number one use case for using AI is
631
00:22:58,433 --> 00:23:01,033
getting a list of is like giving a list
632
00:23:01,966 --> 00:23:04,166
Described and then having that turned
633
00:23:04,166 --> 00:23:05,766
into an Excel spreadsheet for me
634
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:08,733
yeah, that's like the number one use case
635
00:23:08,733 --> 00:23:09,633
that I think it should
636
00:23:09,633 --> 00:23:11,766
be used for because I
637
00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:13,833
Mean, there's no art in making a fucking
638
00:23:13,833 --> 00:23:15,366
spreadsheet, right?
639
00:23:15,366 --> 00:23:16,566
Like no one's getting paid
640
00:23:18,366 --> 00:23:21,033
I was man, but anyways
641
00:23:21,033 --> 00:23:25,833
What I use AI for like in
642
00:23:26,266 --> 00:23:29,000
DaVinci resolve right like to generate a
643
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,666
transcript or to like
644
00:23:31,066 --> 00:23:33,233
Replace my voice if my microphone sucks.
645
00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:34,666
I can like I've already
646
00:23:34,666 --> 00:23:36,066
trained it on my own voice
647
00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:38,133
So I can like pop that in really quick.
648
00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:39,200
I've shown these guys
649
00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:41,566
How I've done that before and
650
00:23:41,566 --> 00:23:43,366
it's kind of spooky accurate
651
00:23:44,033 --> 00:23:47,233
But but like anything cloud-based is just
652
00:23:47,233 --> 00:23:48,700
a waste it doesn't make
653
00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:50,066
your sense local. Yeah
654
00:23:51,299 --> 00:23:52,233
generative AI
655
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:55,166
Has also led to a
656
00:23:55,166 --> 00:23:57,233
huge issue with you know
657
00:23:57,233 --> 00:23:59,533
Whether with like artists too because you
658
00:23:59,533 --> 00:24:02,466
never know if the you never know if this
659
00:24:02,466 --> 00:24:04,633
artist is actually making their art
660
00:24:04,966 --> 00:24:07,533
Or if it's just an AI doing it for them
661
00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:09,533
And that's my thing you think you meant
662
00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:11,633
to say or if it's AI stealing it for them
663
00:24:12,533 --> 00:24:13,933
Yeah, yes, yes
664
00:24:14,666 --> 00:24:16,066
Good point bill, but
665
00:24:17,266 --> 00:24:18,366
Any content creator I think
666
00:24:18,366 --> 00:24:19,900
deals with that type of stuff
667
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:24,533
Whatever it is like, you know lots of
668
00:24:24,533 --> 00:24:26,666
accusations. Heck I've been accused of
669
00:24:26,666 --> 00:24:28,466
being an AI once probably
670
00:24:28,466 --> 00:24:29,433
because they're a bunch of dumb
671
00:24:29,433 --> 00:24:31,366
haters, but like, you know
672
00:24:31,533 --> 00:24:34,133
same and honestly, it hurts a little bit
673
00:24:34,133 --> 00:24:35,566
extra when you're like
674
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:38,666
Wait, you think I'm a bot or
675
00:24:38,666 --> 00:24:39,966
like an AI like that's crazy
676
00:24:40,833 --> 00:24:43,766
Or maybe I can assure you if I was AI I
677
00:24:43,766 --> 00:24:45,666
would look a lot better
678
00:24:45,666 --> 00:24:53,033
We were all AI we'd
679
00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:56,000
We'd all look a lot better. It'd be like
680
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,633
Photoshop for our faces and stuff
681
00:24:59,633 --> 00:25:01,333
It'd be crazy man those
682
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:03,633
AI filters that like I
683
00:25:03,633 --> 00:25:05,299
Think James you showed off one like that
684
00:25:05,299 --> 00:25:06,666
like turns you to a woman and that's
685
00:25:06,666 --> 00:25:07,966
crazy. That's crazy, too
686
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,166
Oh my gosh, I did I didn't
687
00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:11,533
do it myself, but that was
688
00:25:12,433 --> 00:25:13,133
Yeah
689
00:25:14,266 --> 00:25:17,533
Man, that is crazy man. We live in a deep
690
00:25:17,533 --> 00:25:19,966
fake era and it's a little scary
691
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:25,233
Yeah, man, which uh
692
00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:28,200
And all of this runs on Windows, but
693
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,033
honestly, I think Windows is starting to
694
00:25:30,033 --> 00:25:31,633
go the way of the dodo
695
00:25:32,266 --> 00:25:32,666
because
696
00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:36,266
90% of all Windows games now run on Linux
697
00:25:38,733 --> 00:25:39,133
Hell yeah
698
00:25:41,233 --> 00:25:43,833
So, of course this isn't just steam deck
699
00:25:44,566 --> 00:25:46,666
This is all of Linux because of course
700
00:25:46,666 --> 00:25:48,066
the steam deck is not the only Linux
701
00:25:48,066 --> 00:25:48,766
device out there.
702
00:25:48,766 --> 00:25:49,599
It's the most popular one
703
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,033
Sure. Well, it's in thanks to wine and
704
00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:54,633
proton, right? Yeah wine and proton runs
705
00:25:54,633 --> 00:25:56,733
on multiple distros. So
706
00:25:57,299 --> 00:25:59,966
Steam OS just makes it is the easiest one
707
00:25:59,966 --> 00:26:00,966
technically, but then we
708
00:26:00,966 --> 00:26:02,033
have bad side and stuff
709
00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:04,466
Yeah, so this also includes games that
710
00:26:04,466 --> 00:26:06,066
probably don't run that well on a steam
711
00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:07,333
deck like for example
712
00:26:08,299 --> 00:26:09,933
Dragons dogma I'm still
713
00:26:09,933 --> 00:26:11,200
really salty about that one
714
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,366
But yeah, I mean
715
00:26:17,233 --> 00:26:19,533
According to boiling steam they took
716
00:26:20,333 --> 00:26:22,466
They looked at some data from proton DB
717
00:26:22,466 --> 00:26:24,500
and as you can see here
718
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,266
Look at that just about 90%
719
00:26:32,099 --> 00:26:34,233
It's pretty it's pretty crazy how close
720
00:26:34,233 --> 00:26:35,633
we are to running
721
00:26:35,633 --> 00:26:37,266
every game on Linux. I mean
722
00:26:38,366 --> 00:26:40,433
if all the anti-cheek developers just
723
00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:43,533
Enabled Linux support or made their anti
724
00:26:43,533 --> 00:26:44,933
cheese work properly on Linux
725
00:26:44,933 --> 00:26:48,099
I probably say we'd be closer to like 95%
726
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,200
right it it's gonna happen
727
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,866
I think once we get enough
728
00:26:52,866 --> 00:26:55,033
of the compatibility layer
729
00:26:55,333 --> 00:26:57,166
Solved and we get more and more people
730
00:26:57,166 --> 00:26:58,866
using it because there's more and more
731
00:26:58,866 --> 00:26:59,966
people interested in it
732
00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:01,766
I think you're going to get to the point
733
00:27:01,766 --> 00:27:02,933
where they're gonna have to there
734
00:27:02,933 --> 00:27:04,733
It really comes down to numbers for them
735
00:27:04,733 --> 00:27:06,566
And once you get the numbers they will
736
00:27:06,566 --> 00:27:08,266
convert over and they won't have a choice
737
00:27:09,566 --> 00:27:13,566
Yeah, I would also have to say with that
738
00:27:13,566 --> 00:27:15,200
compatibility number hitting 90%
739
00:27:15,633 --> 00:27:18,333
I really want to like I would like to
740
00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:20,666
have another graph show how it's
741
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,433
How capable the game is like running like
742
00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:25,966
how well performance wise I guess like
743
00:27:25,966 --> 00:27:27,700
how performant is the game
744
00:27:28,633 --> 00:27:30,166
In comparison to that
745
00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:32,066
90% because if it can't run
746
00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:35,099
If you have to run it like on a 40
747
00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:41,033
90 50 90 stuff like that like then I
748
00:27:41,233 --> 00:27:42,833
Don't know if there's if you can count
749
00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,133
that as like completely compatible, but I
750
00:27:45,133 --> 00:27:45,633
would like to start
751
00:27:45,633 --> 00:27:46,766
seeing that graph, too
752
00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:48,900
I don't know that I've really noticed a
753
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,066
Dip in performance when playing games on
754
00:27:52,066 --> 00:27:53,133
Linux versus Windows
755
00:27:53,133 --> 00:27:55,000
usually it's the opposite
756
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,266
I usually get more
757
00:27:56,266 --> 00:27:57,633
performance when I'm playing on Linux
758
00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:01,066
Usually but there are game there are some
759
00:28:01,066 --> 00:28:02,966
games that don't perform as well
760
00:28:02,966 --> 00:28:04,033
It's not I'm not saying
761
00:28:04,033 --> 00:28:04,966
that it's the majority
762
00:28:05,166 --> 00:28:07,633
But it might drop that if you put that
763
00:28:07,633 --> 00:28:09,500
into the ratio on this it'd probably drop
764
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:10,666
it down to more like an 85
765
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:12,466
80 kind of thing for me at least because
766
00:28:12,466 --> 00:28:14,700
I have run across a couple of games that
767
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:15,299
just don't perform
768
00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:17,866
quite as well on Linux and
769
00:28:18,299 --> 00:28:20,599
But then again that was a year and a half
770
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,233
ago, so that could have changed
771
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,433
It can also depend heavily on the actual
772
00:28:25,433 --> 00:28:27,333
type of GPU that you're using
773
00:28:27,766 --> 00:28:30,766
I know there are some games that like
774
00:28:30,766 --> 00:28:32,466
there is like a what was it
775
00:28:32,466 --> 00:28:34,166
was it Nvidia that had like a 30%
776
00:28:35,366 --> 00:28:36,766
performance penalty on Linux
777
00:28:37,566 --> 00:28:40,533
With certain GPUs. I think it was like
778
00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:42,233
their most recent one, but
779
00:28:42,233 --> 00:28:45,066
that's been solved recently and
780
00:28:45,233 --> 00:28:46,966
The other thing is like this chart
781
00:28:48,233 --> 00:28:49,966
the the big
782
00:28:51,233 --> 00:28:52,400
This these numbers
783
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,133
come from proton DB which
784
00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:57,333
Silver is kind of like the like silver
785
00:28:57,333 --> 00:28:59,433
tier which is yellow on this chart is
786
00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:01,633
kind of like the most wishy-washy
787
00:29:01,633 --> 00:29:02,633
In terms of like an
788
00:29:02,633 --> 00:29:04,233
actual performance of a game
789
00:29:05,566 --> 00:29:08,333
At least in my experience so
790
00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:11,666
But the fact that that the yellow tier
791
00:29:11,666 --> 00:29:13,966
seems to be closing the gap to some
792
00:29:13,966 --> 00:29:17,033
degree at least maybe maybe it's
793
00:29:17,666 --> 00:29:19,166
about the same but I
794
00:29:19,166 --> 00:29:21,700
Don't know it just seems like you know
795
00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:23,266
more games are falling into the Platinum
796
00:29:23,266 --> 00:29:25,133
and gold tiers which tend to be
797
00:29:26,066 --> 00:29:29,266
the best performing titles obviously for
798
00:29:31,266 --> 00:29:33,633
For this so what is this what is this new
799
00:29:33,633 --> 00:29:34,766
rating system they have here
800
00:29:34,766 --> 00:29:36,266
and I see a little divide here
801
00:29:37,099 --> 00:29:39,933
Um, I'm not a hundred percent sure what
802
00:29:39,933 --> 00:29:42,566
the new rating system is. Yeah, cuz I see
803
00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:44,233
As you can see here
804
00:29:44,233 --> 00:29:45,066
There's a sharp
805
00:29:45,066 --> 00:29:47,200
There's a sharp increase in silver games
806
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400
like after the new rating system was
807
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,366
implemented and only in its you know
808
00:29:52,366 --> 00:29:53,933
like so I see more games
809
00:29:53,933 --> 00:29:56,500
are getting silver rated and
810
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:57,966
More of these silver rated games are
811
00:29:57,966 --> 00:30:00,333
becoming gold and platinum. Alright, so
812
00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:01,400
for those who don't know
813
00:30:02,066 --> 00:30:04,433
Proton DB has their own rating system and
814
00:30:04,433 --> 00:30:05,766
it's all user submitted
815
00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:10,133
So you have platinum which means most of
816
00:30:10,133 --> 00:30:11,633
the users just can just
817
00:30:11,633 --> 00:30:13,233
run the game and play it
818
00:30:13,733 --> 00:30:15,466
then gold is a
819
00:30:16,033 --> 00:30:17,933
That same thing but you know, there might
820
00:30:17,933 --> 00:30:19,099
be some minor things
821
00:30:19,099 --> 00:30:20,500
you have to do silver
822
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:21,933
You got to put in some serious work to
823
00:30:21,933 --> 00:30:23,166
get the game working in it
824
00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:24,733
It's not always performance. Sometimes
825
00:30:24,733 --> 00:30:26,166
it's a matter of installing like
826
00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:28,766
dependencies that it doesn't always, you
827
00:30:28,766 --> 00:30:31,566
know install for some reason and then
828
00:30:31,733 --> 00:30:33,333
honestly, I think big videos and
829
00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:37,066
Yeah, yeah videos one bronze
830
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,533
Honestly, I think for me bronze is like a
831
00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:40,533
non-starter for me. I
832
00:30:40,533 --> 00:30:41,900
wouldn't even consider trying it
833
00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:43,666
Yeah, unless you're just the type first
834
00:30:43,666 --> 00:30:46,033
of the try video games on proton and of
835
00:30:46,033 --> 00:30:46,933
course bork does bork,
836
00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:48,266
you know things like some
837
00:30:48,266 --> 00:30:50,033
Games just straight up don't work or
838
00:30:50,033 --> 00:30:51,866
anti-cheat. Of course, that's also
839
00:30:51,866 --> 00:30:53,033
another major consideration
840
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,266
Yeah, I would argue that
841
00:30:57,266 --> 00:31:00,366
like at minimum half of this
842
00:31:00,933 --> 00:31:02,333
bork section right here
843
00:31:03,633 --> 00:31:05,099
Is anti-cheat games
844
00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:08,266
Actually, that's probably fair
845
00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:10,433
Yeah, and I mean it's not as if those
846
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:12,533
anti it's not as if those games like the
847
00:31:12,533 --> 00:31:14,266
underlying games don't run in proton
848
00:31:14,266 --> 00:31:15,833
It's just they won't let them run
849
00:31:16,299 --> 00:31:17,700
Like i've seen some instances of like
850
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,666
people disabling the anti-cheat in
851
00:31:19,666 --> 00:31:20,766
destiny and playing on
852
00:31:20,766 --> 00:31:22,433
linux until they get banned
853
00:31:23,033 --> 00:31:23,266
Yeah
854
00:31:25,966 --> 00:31:28,666
It can run it so like yeah, it's just a
855
00:31:28,666 --> 00:31:29,733
matter of time before
856
00:31:29,733 --> 00:31:32,333
everyone realizes that uh
857
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,566
Linux is the way to go in the future
858
00:31:37,166 --> 00:31:38,433
Maybe yes
859
00:31:39,666 --> 00:31:42,766
the uh, I will have to say their um
860
00:31:42,766 --> 00:31:44,833
system the rating system and user
861
00:31:44,833 --> 00:31:46,666
submissions like are very subjective
862
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:48,733
in the sense of
863
00:31:49,166 --> 00:31:51,566
What one person's like they could and
864
00:31:51,566 --> 00:31:53,733
even with those tiers because i've had uh
865
00:31:53,733 --> 00:31:54,666
ones where that were
866
00:31:54,666 --> 00:31:55,500
in gold where i'm like
867
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,266
This should be in silver. You actually
868
00:31:57,266 --> 00:31:58,599
have to do a little bit more
869
00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:00,900
um, and people kind of brush it off and
870
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:01,566
they rate a lot of them
871
00:32:01,566 --> 00:32:03,766
rated it as um gold but
872
00:32:04,533 --> 00:32:06,833
Updates can also really affect this
873
00:32:06,833 --> 00:32:08,466
you'll see some drops in some of the
874
00:32:08,466 --> 00:32:09,733
stuff when updates come out
875
00:32:09,733 --> 00:32:11,566
So, uh, but it's getting better and you
876
00:32:11,566 --> 00:32:13,233
can see the graph kind of slowly going up
877
00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:15,866
It is getting better. And so we are very
878
00:32:15,866 --> 00:32:17,733
much on a good, uh trend and
879
00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:19,766
uh, I think a lot of
880
00:32:19,766 --> 00:32:21,366
people I mean personally
881
00:32:22,133 --> 00:32:23,633
I do a lot of my gaming on
882
00:32:23,633 --> 00:32:25,233
my steam deck still and it's
883
00:32:25,266 --> 00:32:29,666
You know steam os so and I have almost no
884
00:32:29,666 --> 00:32:31,433
problems with with a few exceptions
885
00:32:32,133 --> 00:32:32,666
um
886
00:32:33,666 --> 00:32:35,400
And in fact it will play some of the
887
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,799
older games better than my windows 11. So
888
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:41,299
Yeah, I haven't been I
889
00:32:41,299 --> 00:32:42,366
haven't used windows in
890
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:44,733
forever at this point, I mean outside of
891
00:32:44,733 --> 00:32:46,166
like hardware reviews, but
892
00:32:46,766 --> 00:32:47,866
My main gaming ring
893
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,799
is a linux machine and
894
00:32:49,833 --> 00:32:50,066
I mean
895
00:32:51,433 --> 00:32:53,733
If games don't run on it, then I just
896
00:32:53,733 --> 00:32:55,333
don't play those games. I
897
00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:56,566
have so many games to play
898
00:32:56,566 --> 00:32:57,366
I don't have to worry about
899
00:32:57,366 --> 00:32:59,433
that. Yeah, I mean honestly
900
00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:01,900
You may not ever have to buy another game
901
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,299
again. You might be satisfied
902
00:33:04,633 --> 00:33:06,400
Honestly, if you go that route, it's it's
903
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,066
a good way to go there is
904
00:33:08,633 --> 00:33:09,133
um
905
00:33:10,133 --> 00:33:13,233
My 3090 doesn't at least when I tried
906
00:33:13,233 --> 00:33:14,433
writing bas light on it, I
907
00:33:14,433 --> 00:33:15,299
think was early this year
908
00:33:15,299 --> 00:33:17,500
It just was having issues with my 3090.
909
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:18,466
So I had to switch back to windows
910
00:33:19,266 --> 00:33:20,366
um, but
911
00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:25,333
Yeah, I do want to switch fully over it's
912
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:27,033
also hard to do game development
913
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,533
Even on my I have a mac that's pretty
914
00:33:29,533 --> 00:33:30,133
good at it, but it
915
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,366
still has some issues. It's
916
00:33:32,566 --> 00:33:34,733
For at least uh unreal engine. So it's
917
00:33:34,733 --> 00:33:36,200
really hard for me to jump over but I
918
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,266
want to get out of windows
919
00:33:38,366 --> 00:33:41,366
Yeah, I do too. Uh, hopefully one day
920
00:33:42,133 --> 00:33:43,466
So gardener you said that they were
921
00:33:43,466 --> 00:33:46,233
fixing up issues with linux on uh
922
00:33:46,233 --> 00:33:47,966
With with nvidia and linux, right?
923
00:33:48,633 --> 00:33:50,566
Yeah, have they fixed the issue where
924
00:33:50,566 --> 00:33:53,266
game scope and you know subsequently game
925
00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:53,966
mode doesn't really
926
00:33:53,966 --> 00:33:54,966
work that well with linux
927
00:33:55,666 --> 00:33:57,200
Uh, I don't know the answer to that
928
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,266
actually, uh, I would imagine there that
929
00:33:59,266 --> 00:34:00,066
progress has at least
930
00:34:00,066 --> 00:34:01,233
been made but I i'm not
931
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,133
Sure on that. Yeah, because I I mean I
932
00:34:03,133 --> 00:34:04,833
feel like that's the main reason why
933
00:34:05,433 --> 00:34:06,500
We haven't seen
934
00:34:06,933 --> 00:34:09,300
A steam os release because like amd I
935
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,666
think comprises only like 8
936
00:34:10,666 --> 00:34:13,166
of the whole gaming gpu market
937
00:34:14,066 --> 00:34:15,566
And releasing a os that
938
00:34:15,566 --> 00:34:17,400
only works on 8 percent of
939
00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:20,966
All pc hardware out there doesn't sound
940
00:34:20,966 --> 00:34:22,066
like a great idea to be honest
941
00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:25,966
You know what guys a four trillion dollar
942
00:34:25,966 --> 00:34:27,633
or a five trillion dollar company that's
943
00:34:27,633 --> 00:34:29,000
that's actually a news item. I don't know
944
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,699
if we're covering but
945
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,099
nvidia is five trillion dollars now, they
946
00:34:33,099 --> 00:34:35,833
are worth five trillion dollars
947
00:34:36,233 --> 00:34:37,466
Are they though?
948
00:34:38,433 --> 00:34:39,766
Yes, it's it's artificial
949
00:34:40,466 --> 00:34:42,366
It is but it is still
950
00:34:42,366 --> 00:34:43,466
crazy that they're worth
951
00:34:44,466 --> 00:34:46,833
Five trillion dollars and they can't we
952
00:34:46,833 --> 00:34:48,400
can't have decent drivers
953
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,666
for uh linux because you know
954
00:34:52,666 --> 00:34:56,533
Well because somehow linux
955
00:34:56,533 --> 00:34:58,866
eats into their profits, duh
956
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,500
I don't know how but it somehow does well
957
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:04,199
paying you know one engineer to work on
958
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:06,966
linux kernel version uh linux driver
959
00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:08,599
Uh, you know definitely
960
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:09,333
eats into their product
961
00:35:10,233 --> 00:35:12,300
Well, you know, I hear amd is looking to
962
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,066
I mean I hear nvidia is looking to
963
00:35:14,066 --> 00:35:16,533
replace that engineer with ai
964
00:35:17,766 --> 00:35:19,533
Probably yeah, it probably has anyone
965
00:35:19,533 --> 00:35:21,199
checked on them. They said they have a
966
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,633
whole basement stock price
967
00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:24,133
full of these developers dead
968
00:35:24,466 --> 00:35:26,666
We don't know. Yeah, sorry
969
00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:28,400
so speaking of which the amd
970
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,633
recently faced some criticism for
971
00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:33,933
trying to cut uh
972
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:35,733
Trying to cut support
973
00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:37,333
for like the old rdna tgpu
974
00:35:38,233 --> 00:35:40,866
Old like yeah, there's their most recent
975
00:35:40,866 --> 00:35:43,633
rdna 2 gpu is only three years old. So
976
00:35:44,466 --> 00:35:45,966
That's really a shitty move
977
00:35:46,566 --> 00:35:47,466
Yeah, so
978
00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:51,066
People got and they fucking amd thinks
979
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,233
they're on top of the world when they're
980
00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:54,333
only 8 of the market last i recall
981
00:35:55,533 --> 00:35:56,300
I would expect I would
982
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:57,433
expect this shit from nvidia
983
00:35:59,033 --> 00:36:00,933
Well hold up amd is
984
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,033
Much bigger in the gaming world in my
985
00:36:04,033 --> 00:36:05,366
opinion than nvidia
986
00:36:05,366 --> 00:36:07,433
technically because of all the
987
00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:10,166
Uh mobile and console devices that
988
00:36:10,166 --> 00:36:12,066
they're a part of they're massive like I
989
00:36:12,066 --> 00:36:13,133
get that they make switch
990
00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:14,766
and switch too. They make
991
00:36:14,966 --> 00:36:17,533
Um the chips for the playstation. They
992
00:36:17,533 --> 00:36:18,733
make the chips for the
993
00:36:18,733 --> 00:36:21,133
The switches and the
994
00:36:21,133 --> 00:36:22,533
switches that's nvidia
995
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:24,599
Which yeah, that's actually
996
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:25,766
oh, yeah, you're right. It is
997
00:36:26,066 --> 00:36:27,800
Sorry, I think nvidia was on
998
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,866
the screen when I said that
999
00:36:29,766 --> 00:36:33,466
Fair enough, uh, but the decision they
1000
00:36:33,466 --> 00:36:34,933
made to like put the
1001
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:35,833
You know
1002
00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:38,166
rdna 2 devices and whatnot that's
1003
00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:40,099
explicitly pc only not
1004
00:36:40,099 --> 00:36:41,699
necessarily, you know console so
1005
00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:43,300
That's a market where they
1006
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:45,500
clearly do not dominate in so
1007
00:36:45,766 --> 00:36:46,533
it's a
1008
00:36:47,033 --> 00:36:49,133
It's a bold move from amd to
1009
00:36:49,133 --> 00:36:50,366
do so when they're not even
1010
00:36:50,966 --> 00:36:52,666
When they don't even have double digit,
1011
00:36:52,666 --> 00:36:54,766
uh adoption rates so far
1012
00:36:55,766 --> 00:36:58,066
I mean, I heard the nine thousand cards
1013
00:36:58,066 --> 00:36:59,000
are good, but like
1014
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,033
that's still not enough
1015
00:37:01,266 --> 00:37:03,666
And I feel like the whole gpu pricing
1016
00:37:03,666 --> 00:37:06,366
crisis is also in part due to amd
1017
00:37:06,733 --> 00:37:08,833
That's just capitulating and just pricing
1018
00:37:08,833 --> 00:37:09,966
their stuff similar to
1019
00:37:09,966 --> 00:37:11,466
amd. But like 50 less
1020
00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:14,466
I mean similar to nvidia but 50 less
1021
00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:17,066
That doesn't really make
1022
00:37:17,066 --> 00:37:18,033
it worth it to be honest
1023
00:37:18,866 --> 00:37:20,066
They could definitely dominate more
1024
00:37:20,166 --> 00:37:21,666
That's that's what really weirds mail
1025
00:37:21,666 --> 00:37:23,233
with amd is that they could actually
1026
00:37:23,233 --> 00:37:25,199
dominate and get those numbers up really
1027
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:26,833
quick and and really
1028
00:37:27,266 --> 00:37:29,099
overtake nvidia on the
1029
00:37:29,533 --> 00:37:30,466
pc graphics
1030
00:37:31,133 --> 00:37:34,133
Face because it i'm i'm sorry, but if you
1031
00:37:34,133 --> 00:37:37,666
can uh wreck a similarly, um
1032
00:37:37,766 --> 00:37:39,766
Specced car like with if you have a card
1033
00:37:39,766 --> 00:37:40,900
and you're going let's
1034
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:42,066
say against the 50 70
1035
00:37:42,733 --> 00:37:44,866
um, and you release your uh, your
1036
00:37:45,266 --> 00:37:48,900
90 70 at like 150 less like that's a
1037
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,366
no-brainer even if that that that card
1038
00:37:51,933 --> 00:37:53,633
That nvidia card would actually have to
1039
00:37:53,633 --> 00:37:55,233
have quite a bit more performance, which
1040
00:37:55,233 --> 00:37:58,666
it doesn't to justify the 150 dollars
1041
00:37:59,466 --> 00:38:00,766
But they're just not competing anymore.
1042
00:38:00,766 --> 00:38:02,066
They're kind of being they're trying to
1043
00:38:02,066 --> 00:38:03,766
be competitive but not really
1044
00:38:04,566 --> 00:38:05,900
because no graphics card
1045
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,533
or no gpu developer or uh
1046
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,133
hardware manufacturer
1047
00:38:11,133 --> 00:38:12,266
Is competitive these days
1048
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,866
Here it's just the thing that really
1049
00:38:15,866 --> 00:38:17,633
pisses me off about amd is that
1050
00:38:18,366 --> 00:38:19,800
They know what they're doing. They know
1051
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,766
what they should be doing. They should be
1052
00:38:21,766 --> 00:38:24,699
making these great cards at a lower price
1053
00:38:25,533 --> 00:38:26,266
And they could
1054
00:38:26,866 --> 00:38:28,666
And i'm not i'm not saying they should or
1055
00:38:28,666 --> 00:38:30,733
could like severely undercut nvidia
1056
00:38:31,666 --> 00:38:33,766
But I feel like that's the only real way
1057
00:38:33,766 --> 00:38:36,033
they're gonna get some market back
1058
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:38,933
Because no matter what nvidia does gamers
1059
00:38:38,933 --> 00:38:40,233
are just gonna buy them because as we
1060
00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:42,500
know gamers aren't a very disciplined. Uh
1061
00:38:43,133 --> 00:38:45,566
Discipline group, right? Yeah, also don't
1062
00:38:45,566 --> 00:38:47,099
have a lot of choices. They're just it's
1063
00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:49,133
so hard when something's so mainstream
1064
00:38:50,466 --> 00:38:53,233
I mean heck they should release they
1065
00:38:53,233 --> 00:38:53,900
should release a strict
1066
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,066
halo chip for a desktop because
1067
00:38:56,866 --> 00:38:58,733
That would be sick to be honest
1068
00:38:59,966 --> 00:39:01,533
And I don't mean like one of those many
1069
00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:03,766
desktops that like the frameworks have or
1070
00:39:04,333 --> 00:39:06,033
All the other ones that like other
1071
00:39:06,033 --> 00:39:07,400
reviewers like retro game
1072
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,900
core great guy, by the way
1073
00:39:08,966 --> 00:39:11,566
Uh, he has or something like eta prime
1074
00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:12,833
does like every other video
1075
00:39:13,666 --> 00:39:15,266
I mean like a full-on
1076
00:39:15,433 --> 00:39:17,333
Desktop chip you can install onto
1077
00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:18,966
whatever motherboard you want
1078
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,099
You know what i'm saying
1079
00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:26,199
Yeah, yeah, that's what I want but
1080
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:28,300
obviously i'm not gonna get what I want
1081
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:31,266
Um, can I say one more thing about this
1082
00:39:31,266 --> 00:39:32,933
uh chart here? I just
1083
00:39:32,933 --> 00:39:34,466
kind of noticed this
1084
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,366
Um, so if you look at like the actual
1085
00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:39,900
um
1086
00:39:40,466 --> 00:39:42,933
The numbers here at least visually to me.
1087
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:45,766
It looks like gold silver and bronze
1088
00:39:45,766 --> 00:39:48,133
tiers have mostly remained
1089
00:39:48,866 --> 00:39:49,366
the same
1090
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,800
over over the entire graph
1091
00:39:53,133 --> 00:39:56,033
Where it looks like all of
1092
00:39:56,033 --> 00:39:57,833
the garbage or the borked tier
1093
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,666
Has kind of migrated over
1094
00:39:59,666 --> 00:40:01,400
to the platinum tier, right?
1095
00:40:03,433 --> 00:40:04,666
And and perhaps it's
1096
00:40:04,666 --> 00:40:06,300
like there's that you know
1097
00:40:06,633 --> 00:40:08,333
Some of the borked are are heading into
1098
00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,066
the bronze and then the bronze are going
1099
00:40:10,066 --> 00:40:10,766
into silver and then
1100
00:40:10,766 --> 00:40:11,633
the gold's going into
1101
00:40:11,666 --> 00:40:14,066
Platinum or whatever but it's still like
1102
00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:15,966
the overall trend is
1103
00:40:15,966 --> 00:40:18,033
that fewer and fewer games
1104
00:40:18,566 --> 00:40:19,166
are
1105
00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:20,133
um
1106
00:40:21,433 --> 00:40:24,066
Are like unplayable and more
1107
00:40:24,066 --> 00:40:25,500
and more are becoming platinum
1108
00:40:26,466 --> 00:40:28,666
And I think that speaks to like what
1109
00:40:28,666 --> 00:40:30,133
valve is doing with proton
1110
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:34,133
um, and the the compatibility tools that
1111
00:40:34,133 --> 00:40:37,866
are part of it right like dxbk and bkd3d
1112
00:40:38,366 --> 00:40:38,566
like
1113
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:39,966
there's just
1114
00:40:40,866 --> 00:40:43,466
At a certain point it's only going to be
1115
00:40:43,766 --> 00:40:44,233
um
1116
00:40:45,466 --> 00:40:46,133
the uh
1117
00:40:46,433 --> 00:40:48,633
The anti-cheat games that are stuck in in
1118
00:40:48,633 --> 00:40:50,166
the borked here and then pretty much
1119
00:40:50,166 --> 00:40:51,866
everything else is just going to be
1120
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:54,166
Gold or or platinum in
1121
00:40:54,166 --> 00:40:54,966
terms of compatibility
1122
00:40:55,833 --> 00:40:56,233
um
1123
00:40:57,033 --> 00:40:58,666
And I I think that's
1124
00:40:58,666 --> 00:41:00,266
freaking cool as a linux user
1125
00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:03,733
I think once they decided to get rid of
1126
00:41:03,733 --> 00:41:05,766
nh or or not get rid of it, but start
1127
00:41:05,766 --> 00:41:06,566
supporting anti-cheat
1128
00:41:07,033 --> 00:41:08,633
for most of these games on
1129
00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:11,166
Linux, we'll see like a big
1130
00:41:11,766 --> 00:41:13,233
um bump up
1131
00:41:13,633 --> 00:41:15,466
Yeah, because those games do play and
1132
00:41:15,466 --> 00:41:17,133
then once they do they'll just they have
1133
00:41:17,133 --> 00:41:18,300
to certify it or the you know
1134
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:19,900
The users have to will be interesting.
1135
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,566
Yeah, like i'm still on windows 10 even
1136
00:41:22,566 --> 00:41:23,733
though I shouldn't be
1137
00:41:23,733 --> 00:41:25,733
because of uh end of service
1138
00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:28,833
I want to move over to linux one day, but
1139
00:41:28,833 --> 00:41:30,566
the problem but there's a few things, you
1140
00:41:30,566 --> 00:41:32,966
know, the nvidia thing there's also
1141
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:34,833
Also, one more thing too. I should
1142
00:41:34,833 --> 00:41:36,866
mention a lot of people i've noticed a
1143
00:41:36,866 --> 00:41:37,866
lot of people are trying to
1144
00:41:37,866 --> 00:41:39,433
wait for official steam os
1145
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,066
for desktop use too, but like
1146
00:41:43,266 --> 00:41:45,833
I feel but like steam os is made for
1147
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,133
A set top box like it boots into steam
1148
00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:50,666
game mode and if I wanted
1149
00:41:50,666 --> 00:41:52,133
a desktop linux experience
1150
00:41:53,133 --> 00:41:54,566
I feel like that's not what I want.
1151
00:41:54,833 --> 00:41:56,199
That's not what I would want unless valve
1152
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:56,933
just makes like a separate
1153
00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:58,533
version that boots desktop first
1154
00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:00,533
well, so um
1155
00:42:01,533 --> 00:42:03,566
Back in like the steam os one and steam
1156
00:42:03,566 --> 00:42:05,033
os two days like right
1157
00:42:05,033 --> 00:42:06,099
now we're on steam os three
1158
00:42:06,833 --> 00:42:09,433
Before steam os three there was a gooey
1159
00:42:09,433 --> 00:42:12,866
option in steam that would let you boot
1160
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,466
Directly to the desktop
1161
00:42:14,966 --> 00:42:16,566
Right, you could just check a box and it
1162
00:42:16,566 --> 00:42:18,133
would take you to the desktop and then
1163
00:42:18,133 --> 00:42:18,933
you could log out and it
1164
00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:19,699
would take you to steam
1165
00:42:19,933 --> 00:42:21,666
right, right, um
1166
00:42:22,366 --> 00:42:24,433
That doesn't exist now because valve is
1167
00:42:24,433 --> 00:42:25,366
focused on making
1168
00:42:25,366 --> 00:42:28,366
steam os three for the uh
1169
00:42:28,966 --> 00:42:30,766
Uh for the steam deck, but
1170
00:42:31,533 --> 00:42:33,833
It would be relatively trivial for them
1171
00:42:33,833 --> 00:42:35,866
to add a checkbox in the ui
1172
00:42:35,866 --> 00:42:37,166
that lets you boot into desktop
1173
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,466
um
1174
00:42:40,233 --> 00:42:41,966
So it's not it really
1175
00:42:41,966 --> 00:42:43,233
isn't that big of a deal
1176
00:42:43,366 --> 00:42:45,033
The thing is though you don't have to
1177
00:42:45,033 --> 00:42:46,133
wait like you don't
1178
00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:47,099
have to wait for steam os
1179
00:42:47,433 --> 00:42:50,099
Bazite provides a terrific experience
1180
00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:52,533
And especially if you install it by the
1181
00:42:52,533 --> 00:42:55,133
way when you install bazite it asks you
1182
00:42:55,133 --> 00:42:56,733
Do you want to boot into desktop mode or
1183
00:42:56,733 --> 00:42:58,166
do you want to boot into gaming mode?
1184
00:42:58,966 --> 00:43:00,266
Yes. Yep, and if you have
1185
00:43:00,266 --> 00:43:02,433
a jeep, uh, an nvidia gpu
1186
00:43:02,966 --> 00:43:05,666
um, then it will just directly boot you
1187
00:43:05,666 --> 00:43:08,766
into um into the desktop so
1188
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,833
Yeah, it's
1189
00:43:11,533 --> 00:43:13,533
It is a great experience. Bazite is
1190
00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:15,733
terrific. Uh, it's so
1191
00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:17,066
streamlined especially for
1192
00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:18,733
New users who aren't familiar with linux.
1193
00:43:19,533 --> 00:43:20,833
Um, you don't have to
1194
00:43:20,833 --> 00:43:22,599
drop into the terminal ever
1195
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,733
Like you can get most of the things you
1196
00:43:24,733 --> 00:43:27,933
like any normal everyday windows user
1197
00:43:28,633 --> 00:43:30,233
Everything that they would want to do is
1198
00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:32,633
is pretty much available with a gooey. So
1199
00:43:32,966 --> 00:43:34,833
Yeah, there's no reason I had to use the
1200
00:43:34,833 --> 00:43:35,966
terminal the other day
1201
00:43:36,566 --> 00:43:38,733
Uh, did you what happened? I did I ran
1202
00:43:38,733 --> 00:43:40,833
into an issue on my on my system
1203
00:43:40,866 --> 00:43:44,366
it it would uh, I was trying to boot and
1204
00:43:44,366 --> 00:43:46,666
it would say signing you into
1205
00:43:47,766 --> 00:43:50,033
Steam and it would just hang there. It
1206
00:43:50,033 --> 00:43:50,666
couldn't go anywhere
1207
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:52,733
So I reached out to the guys that make
1208
00:43:52,733 --> 00:43:54,766
bazite and they were like open the
1209
00:43:54,766 --> 00:43:56,000
terminal and type this command
1210
00:43:56,066 --> 00:43:57,533
So I did that
1211
00:43:58,066 --> 00:43:59,166
And that fixed it
1212
00:43:59,766 --> 00:44:01,866
So I do you still you do still have to go
1213
00:44:01,866 --> 00:44:03,033
into the terminal sometimes
1214
00:44:03,533 --> 00:44:04,900
But guess what?
1215
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:06,566
There are things that you can do on
1216
00:44:06,566 --> 00:44:07,266
windows where you have
1217
00:44:07,266 --> 00:44:08,166
to go into the terminal
1218
00:44:08,633 --> 00:44:09,933
There are things that you have to do on
1219
00:44:09,933 --> 00:44:11,733
mac os where you go into the terminal
1220
00:44:12,633 --> 00:44:14,066
Most people will never
1221
00:44:14,066 --> 00:44:15,266
have to have that experience
1222
00:44:16,166 --> 00:44:17,066
But I just want to say
1223
00:44:17,066 --> 00:44:18,433
that there are still times
1224
00:44:18,866 --> 00:44:21,233
On linux just so everybody doesn't get
1225
00:44:21,233 --> 00:44:22,533
the wrong expectations where
1226
00:44:22,533 --> 00:44:24,466
you do have to use the terminal
1227
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:26,933
And it's frustrating when it happens
1228
00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:28,066
because then you have to
1229
00:44:28,066 --> 00:44:29,233
go looking up a command
1230
00:44:29,933 --> 00:44:32,566
And usually i'm looking it up on my phone
1231
00:44:32,566 --> 00:44:34,766
and then typing it on on a keyboard and
1232
00:44:34,766 --> 00:44:35,866
i'm looking and like
1233
00:44:36,266 --> 00:44:36,566
l
1234
00:44:37,533 --> 00:44:39,500
Is the dollar sign, you know, and you're
1235
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,433
like coming up with all this nonsense
1236
00:44:41,433 --> 00:44:43,266
that you're typing and then fingers
1237
00:44:43,266 --> 00:44:44,233
crossed that it works
1238
00:44:46,066 --> 00:44:46,833
I get what you're saying
1239
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:50,166
It just felt to boot up one day is what
1240
00:44:50,166 --> 00:44:51,033
happened to you bill
1241
00:44:51,766 --> 00:44:54,233
Yeah, uh, it I don't know what the issue
1242
00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:55,533
was. I can't remember what
1243
00:44:55,533 --> 00:44:57,233
command I ended up typing
1244
00:44:57,366 --> 00:44:58,400
So if it happens again,
1245
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,099
i'll have to look it up again
1246
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,033
Did you install or do
1247
00:45:02,033 --> 00:45:03,300
an update or anything?
1248
00:45:03,933 --> 00:45:05,566
No, I just hadn't used it for a couple
1249
00:45:05,566 --> 00:45:08,466
days and then I turned because I was busy
1250
00:45:08,466 --> 00:45:09,800
and then when I turned it on
1251
00:45:10,966 --> 00:45:12,800
like it would get to the to the
1252
00:45:13,666 --> 00:45:16,033
The boot screen and I was signed out of
1253
00:45:16,033 --> 00:45:16,933
steam for some reason
1254
00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:18,333
so I signed in again
1255
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:21,633
And it was like, okay loading user data
1256
00:45:21,633 --> 00:45:24,633
and it couldn't load anything. So then oh
1257
00:45:24,733 --> 00:45:26,000
I killed it
1258
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,599
I killed it and I went to the desktop
1259
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,666
mode and use the terminal to fix it
1260
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,133
It's that sounds like a steam issue to be
1261
00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:36,566
honest not not necessarily a bad light
1262
00:45:36,566 --> 00:45:38,233
issue per se, but I don't know
1263
00:45:38,566 --> 00:45:39,566
Well the other day
1264
00:45:39,566 --> 00:45:41,033
like a couple of days ago
1265
00:45:41,533 --> 00:45:42,833
My steam deck got
1266
00:45:42,833 --> 00:45:44,400
logged out just randomly
1267
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,233
Of my steam account and I and
1268
00:45:47,233 --> 00:45:49,033
and I also had a similar issue
1269
00:45:49,366 --> 00:45:50,599
um, but when I
1270
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:52,066
Shut it off and turn it back
1271
00:45:52,066 --> 00:45:54,733
on it. It did come up. But uh
1272
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:58,000
Yeah, it's very strange that you and I
1273
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,766
both got logged out and had an issue like
1274
00:45:59,766 --> 00:46:01,033
that. I've had to
1275
00:46:01,033 --> 00:46:03,000
repair my steam deck. Um
1276
00:46:03,933 --> 00:46:04,933
From it just not booting up properly
1277
00:46:05,033 --> 00:46:06,766
I mean I could have been when I was
1278
00:46:06,766 --> 00:46:08,433
screwing around with a bunch like
1279
00:46:08,666 --> 00:46:10,066
Uh decky plugins like
1280
00:46:10,066 --> 00:46:11,333
the decky loader. It's
1281
00:46:11,366 --> 00:46:11,833
super
1282
00:46:12,466 --> 00:46:13,133
still not
1283
00:46:13,933 --> 00:46:15,466
a very uh
1284
00:46:15,699 --> 00:46:17,733
It's good. It's it's good, but it's not
1285
00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:20,266
very um, what's where i'm looking stable
1286
00:46:20,866 --> 00:46:22,733
Bazite though, that sounds like more of a
1287
00:46:22,733 --> 00:46:24,766
steam issue and bazite itself is
1288
00:46:26,066 --> 00:46:27,933
Seems fairly stable
1289
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:30,400
Honestly, I think it's a better
1290
00:46:30,966 --> 00:46:32,866
way to go if you have a desktop pc than
1291
00:46:32,866 --> 00:46:34,866
trying to do anything steam os even if
1292
00:46:34,866 --> 00:46:36,133
you have an amd card but
1293
00:46:37,133 --> 00:46:39,533
Uh those nv2 drivers man. I'll have to
1294
00:46:39,533 --> 00:46:40,633
come back and I have to keep
1295
00:46:40,633 --> 00:46:41,866
I'll have to try it again, but
1296
00:46:42,566 --> 00:46:43,866
Yes, um
1297
00:46:44,766 --> 00:46:46,966
So speaking of which I am curious though
1298
00:46:46,966 --> 00:46:48,266
because you can install
1299
00:46:48,266 --> 00:46:49,599
bazite on the steam deck
1300
00:46:50,066 --> 00:46:51,866
most people probably don't know why you
1301
00:46:51,866 --> 00:46:52,833
would want to do that, but
1302
00:46:53,266 --> 00:46:55,733
I'm wondering if bazite fixed the stupid
1303
00:46:55,733 --> 00:46:56,900
wi-fi issue on the steam
1304
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:58,699
deck oleds because as you know
1305
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,800
The steam deck oled has a weird wi-fi
1306
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,933
issue a lot of people reported it
1307
00:47:04,333 --> 00:47:06,833
I have those issues too. I've tried
1308
00:47:06,833 --> 00:47:07,900
almost every fix that
1309
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:09,000
I could find on reddit
1310
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:12,333
To no luck i've tried cryobites fixed
1311
00:47:12,333 --> 00:47:14,099
like years ago. That
1312
00:47:14,099 --> 00:47:15,000
also didn't help either
1313
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:17,900
So i'm wondering if bazite might actually
1314
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:19,166
be the solution all of this
1315
00:47:20,033 --> 00:47:21,633
If it uses the same drivers, maybe not
1316
00:47:21,633 --> 00:47:23,366
what's what's the problem?
1317
00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:25,366
So I haven't had that problem with my
1318
00:47:25,366 --> 00:47:26,766
oled same. I haven't had that issue
1319
00:47:27,766 --> 00:47:30,033
So I have a mesh network in my house
1320
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:33,233
and so what's up happening is uh
1321
00:47:33,933 --> 00:47:35,233
It just has real it's
1322
00:47:35,233 --> 00:47:36,833
just really unstable at times
1323
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:38,266
and when I try to stream
1324
00:47:38,266 --> 00:47:40,533
games from pc to it, it's just
1325
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:43,266
You forget forget about it
1326
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,066
Forget about it. That might
1327
00:47:45,066 --> 00:47:46,900
be more of a mesh router issue
1328
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:49,633
I have it too and I have issues with all
1329
00:47:49,633 --> 00:47:51,633
my devices sometimes streaming and I
1330
00:47:51,633 --> 00:47:54,066
unless if the device i'm trying to stream
1331
00:47:54,066 --> 00:47:57,133
Um that i'm streaming from has ethernet
1332
00:47:57,133 --> 00:47:59,133
plugged in then the wi-fi works
1333
00:47:59,133 --> 00:48:01,533
Okay, because I have a portal and until I
1334
00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:03,933
plugged in my playstation 5
1335
00:48:04,566 --> 00:48:06,466
The streaming didn't work very well. So
1336
00:48:06,466 --> 00:48:09,166
and same thing was streaming my uh
1337
00:48:09,699 --> 00:48:11,233
from my uh
1338
00:48:11,466 --> 00:48:14,666
PC to my mac studio. I I couldn't do it
1339
00:48:14,666 --> 00:48:16,233
unless it was plugged into ethernet
1340
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,766
Yeah, I mean
1341
00:48:18,333 --> 00:48:19,033
honestly, man
1342
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:21,866
I might just go the rat and like build my
1343
00:48:21,866 --> 00:48:23,699
own router and then also use like an
1344
00:48:23,699 --> 00:48:25,933
ubiquity ap to do all that
1345
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,666
Yeah, but like those
1346
00:48:27,666 --> 00:48:29,166
are expensive to be honest
1347
00:48:29,666 --> 00:48:32,466
They're like 115 bucks for one
1348
00:48:32,733 --> 00:48:35,699
Which all true if you get like if you get
1349
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:38,866
uh, if you buy like a high-end aces or
1350
00:48:38,866 --> 00:48:41,333
not high-end aces, but a high-end like
1351
00:48:41,766 --> 00:48:42,433
wi-fi router
1352
00:48:43,133 --> 00:48:44,166
That you're you're talking
1353
00:48:44,166 --> 00:48:45,800
300 bucks. If you get three
1354
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,933
of the uh ubiquity
1355
00:48:47,933 --> 00:48:49,366
routers and you place them
1356
00:48:50,466 --> 00:48:52,833
Around your house you you're in the same
1357
00:48:52,833 --> 00:48:54,033
ballpark financially.
1358
00:48:54,033 --> 00:48:55,733
Yeah, I think yeah, man
1359
00:48:55,733 --> 00:48:57,500
I'd have to build the forbidden router as
1360
00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:59,033
a level one text puts it
1361
00:48:59,666 --> 00:49:01,300
Got to build myself one like
1362
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,566
Hey bill, have you ever considered
1363
00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:04,566
building your own router?
1364
00:49:05,566 --> 00:49:06,633
God, no
1365
00:49:07,133 --> 00:49:08,933
The hell I tell you to build I tell you
1366
00:49:08,933 --> 00:49:10,833
guys to do a lot of things like diy your
1367
00:49:10,833 --> 00:49:12,266
own arcade fight sticks
1368
00:49:12,866 --> 00:49:15,233
Diy what diy my own
1369
00:49:15,233 --> 00:49:16,666
router was a bit of a nightmare
1370
00:49:17,533 --> 00:49:21,199
The most diy I got is I I modified an
1371
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:24,166
existing arcade and it didn't have
1372
00:49:25,033 --> 00:49:26,199
A joystick because it
1373
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:27,366
was asteroids deluxe
1374
00:49:28,166 --> 00:49:29,566
And I built like a
1375
00:49:29,566 --> 00:49:31,033
panel for it so that I could
1376
00:49:31,666 --> 00:49:34,333
Play retro games on it, but no i'm not
1377
00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:36,666
building a router. That sounds insane
1378
00:49:37,533 --> 00:49:39,966
Dude legitimately like I
1379
00:49:39,966 --> 00:49:41,966
just used a mini pc with two
1380
00:49:42,866 --> 00:49:45,133
Nicks on it and I installed pf sense
1381
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,333
Done so here's what I did
1382
00:49:48,866 --> 00:49:51,433
With my quote unquote router. So I have a
1383
00:49:51,433 --> 00:49:52,866
blade. I have like a server
1384
00:49:52,866 --> 00:49:54,199
like a rack. It's a server
1385
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:55,333
That's meant to be on a rack not
1386
00:49:56,566 --> 00:49:58,366
But I think you guys have heard me talk
1387
00:49:58,366 --> 00:49:59,766
about this. I have it on like a filing
1388
00:49:59,766 --> 00:50:00,966
cabinet in the middle
1389
00:50:01,933 --> 00:50:03,599
And it's just hanging off on all ends
1390
00:50:04,066 --> 00:50:04,666
Probably not the
1391
00:50:04,666 --> 00:50:06,333
safest thing but you know
1392
00:50:07,033 --> 00:50:08,233
You've heard of network instability
1393
00:50:09,766 --> 00:50:10,833
But um, so
1394
00:50:11,766 --> 00:50:14,733
I was browsed I was in the
1395
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,800
Home lab discord and they
1396
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,933
told me to try an os called vi os
1397
00:50:21,133 --> 00:50:23,266
It's like a like a free bs
1398
00:50:23,366 --> 00:50:25,500
It's all command line though. You have to
1399
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:27,733
like program your router all in command
1400
00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:29,333
line. It was hell it worked
1401
00:50:30,233 --> 00:50:31,833
But like i'm not doing that shit again,
1402
00:50:31,833 --> 00:50:32,633
to be honest. Yes,
1403
00:50:32,633 --> 00:50:34,266
that's man or open sounds
1404
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,333
They're both freaking awesome and they
1405
00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:37,533
have a gooey and it's great
1406
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:39,766
Maybe if I get one of those nasas with
1407
00:50:39,766 --> 00:50:41,533
two nicks, I might consider doing that
1408
00:50:42,133 --> 00:50:43,500
Oh, dude, I got the n5
1409
00:50:44,566 --> 00:50:47,599
You did? Yeah, I got i'm working. I'm
1410
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:48,933
still working on setting it up. But yeah,
1411
00:50:48,933 --> 00:50:50,966
I got it. It's awesome. Ah, dude
1412
00:50:51,433 --> 00:50:52,566
I gotta get myself one of
1413
00:50:52,566 --> 00:50:53,733
those too one of these days
1414
00:50:54,066 --> 00:50:56,599
Yeah, you know what else we don't need
1415
00:50:57,533 --> 00:50:58,800
What do we not need? We
1416
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,933
don't need robots in our homes
1417
00:51:02,466 --> 00:51:05,033
Dude look at these like felt robots man.
1418
00:51:05,033 --> 00:51:07,000
They don't even look cool. No
1419
00:51:07,266 --> 00:51:10,033
They look like like a irobot in a sock
1420
00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:13,366
They look stupid
1421
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,133
Dude, I don't understand
1422
00:51:15,133 --> 00:51:16,633
the need to make them look
1423
00:51:17,266 --> 00:51:18,466
anthropomorphic like
1424
00:51:19,533 --> 00:51:22,233
I've I i'm fine with my robot vacuum
1425
00:51:22,233 --> 00:51:23,666
looking like a hockey puck
1426
00:51:24,166 --> 00:51:25,500
Dude, they should have made it look like
1427
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:26,766
cyberpunk or like a
1428
00:51:26,766 --> 00:51:28,099
gundam or like doffpunk
1429
00:51:29,133 --> 00:51:31,566
Well, okay, they're not gonna sell very
1430
00:51:31,566 --> 00:51:33,866
well for the average person. This is
1431
00:51:33,866 --> 00:51:34,800
actually a smart
1432
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,466
design because it feels very
1433
00:51:37,166 --> 00:51:37,733
Uh
1434
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,733
Unattrusive or very not dangerous
1435
00:51:41,433 --> 00:51:41,733
um
1436
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,666
And and it's anthropomorphic
1437
00:51:44,666 --> 00:51:46,466
it so that it could do similar
1438
00:51:46,633 --> 00:51:48,166
um things that humans can
1439
00:51:48,166 --> 00:51:49,966
do right like we're a very
1440
00:51:50,633 --> 00:51:52,933
Evolved design for a reason maybe stupid
1441
00:51:52,933 --> 00:51:54,233
in some ways, but very
1442
00:51:54,233 --> 00:51:55,400
evolved for a reason but
1443
00:51:56,566 --> 00:51:57,766
If you want have you watched some of
1444
00:51:57,766 --> 00:51:58,866
these videos for this?
1445
00:51:59,433 --> 00:52:01,533
No, because this this does not appeal to
1446
00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:03,933
me. Oh, it's it's fascinating
1447
00:52:05,133 --> 00:52:07,033
Because it's not very good. So
1448
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,566
The robot is supposed to automate it's
1449
00:52:10,566 --> 00:52:11,633
supposed to like do your
1450
00:52:11,633 --> 00:52:13,366
chores for you which I mean
1451
00:52:14,166 --> 00:52:15,933
Kind of sounds interesting at least
1452
00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:17,833
But like to be honest, the only chore I
1453
00:52:17,833 --> 00:52:18,433
would need to be
1454
00:52:18,433 --> 00:52:20,166
automated is lawn mowing my lawn
1455
00:52:20,633 --> 00:52:22,833
During the summer and they already have
1456
00:52:22,833 --> 00:52:25,699
like I like room rumba style. Thanks for
1457
00:52:25,699 --> 00:52:26,733
your lawn mowing, too
1458
00:52:27,266 --> 00:52:28,366
Yeah, they do have this
1459
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,333
Yeah, I had a yeah, I got
1460
00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:31,599
an email the other day some
1461
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,433
You know those stupid sponsorship emails
1462
00:52:34,433 --> 00:52:35,433
that you constantly get
1463
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,433
And it was it was like hey, we noticed
1464
00:52:38,433 --> 00:52:40,800
that you do a lot of lawn care and I was
1465
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,633
like clearly you didn't watch my stuff
1466
00:52:44,166 --> 00:52:45,766
Because it was for one of those robot
1467
00:52:45,766 --> 00:52:46,966
lawn mower things and
1468
00:52:46,966 --> 00:52:48,133
I was like no, thanks
1469
00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:51,500
Damn, yeah, that's when you ask him for a
1470
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:52,933
trial. Hey, i'll look at it. Maybe i'll
1471
00:52:52,933 --> 00:52:54,400
do it. Maybe i'll do it
1472
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,366
Do you have yourself a lawnmower?
1473
00:52:56,133 --> 00:52:57,033
Yeah, I love how this
1474
00:52:57,033 --> 00:52:58,233
robot just took a fish
1475
00:52:58,233 --> 00:53:00,266
Lawnmower driving into the lawn into the
1476
00:53:00,266 --> 00:53:01,566
road and causing an
1477
00:53:01,566 --> 00:53:03,333
accident and then I get sued
1478
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,066
Now i'm more worried about my dog barking
1479
00:53:07,066 --> 00:53:08,633
at the lawnmower and then getting ran
1480
00:53:08,633 --> 00:53:10,866
over. I don't want my dog to get fluffed
1481
00:53:11,433 --> 00:53:14,133
I've i've seen uh where basically with
1482
00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:16,733
those outdoor lawnmowers you have to
1483
00:53:17,133 --> 00:53:20,199
Set up a base station and you have to
1484
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,366
like bury a cable around the perimeter of
1485
00:53:23,366 --> 00:53:24,933
your yard where you want it to
1486
00:53:25,266 --> 00:53:25,833
um
1487
00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:26,966
uh
1488
00:53:27,133 --> 00:53:30,199
Like mow and then it also has to have gps
1489
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:31,833
enabled so that it doesn't
1490
00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:32,766
like go into the road and stuff
1491
00:53:32,866 --> 00:53:35,266
It's it seems insane to me. Well, maybe
1492
00:53:35,266 --> 00:53:37,066
maybe that's a good use for ai
1493
00:53:37,066 --> 00:53:38,966
It can recognize when it's not your lawn
1494
00:53:38,966 --> 00:53:40,766
and it just stops it
1495
00:53:40,766 --> 00:53:42,000
already does like it's ml
1496
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,266
We already have we've had this technology
1497
00:53:44,266 --> 00:53:46,900
for years. It does decent. It's like what
1498
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,066
if the failure happens, right?
1499
00:53:49,066 --> 00:53:49,733
um
1500
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,433
uh
1501
00:53:50,966 --> 00:53:53,433
Yeah, well, let's go back to this robot.
1502
00:53:53,433 --> 00:53:55,166
Yeah, they gave him
1503
00:53:55,166 --> 00:53:56,366
like fucking googly eyes
1504
00:53:56,366 --> 00:53:57,599
I know that they're supposed to be his
1505
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,033
cameras or whatever but like
1506
00:53:59,033 --> 00:54:02,400
Like come on, dude. Are they googly eyes?
1507
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,266
It just looks like cameras
1508
00:54:03,766 --> 00:54:05,333
Well, they kind of give off the like
1509
00:54:05,333 --> 00:54:05,966
impression that they're
1510
00:54:05,966 --> 00:54:07,466
like little googly eyes
1511
00:54:09,533 --> 00:54:10,866
I'll be honest guys
1512
00:54:11,266 --> 00:54:11,833
You're gonna hate me saying
1513
00:54:11,833 --> 00:54:13,699
this i'd have one of these
1514
00:54:14,133 --> 00:54:16,166
Like see the the problem with this is
1515
00:54:16,166 --> 00:54:17,866
it's slavery with extra steps
1516
00:54:19,133 --> 00:54:20,133
like most
1517
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,566
Everything that they
1518
00:54:21,566 --> 00:54:23,099
showed off with this robot
1519
00:54:24,166 --> 00:54:26,199
Like was like the robot
1520
00:54:26,199 --> 00:54:27,666
doesn't function autonomously
1521
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,566
It's controlled by someone with a vr
1522
00:54:30,566 --> 00:54:33,533
headset and hands like uh right now
1523
00:54:33,533 --> 00:54:35,766
It is they want it to not be that way and
1524
00:54:35,766 --> 00:54:37,233
they say they're tracking the data so
1525
00:54:37,233 --> 00:54:38,533
that they can have it be autonomous
1526
00:54:38,866 --> 00:54:40,633
That's that stupid as part every year for
1527
00:54:40,633 --> 00:54:43,033
the last 15 years. Elon musk has said
1528
00:54:43,033 --> 00:54:44,833
self-driving is coming next year
1529
00:54:45,133 --> 00:54:48,666
This is this is me being a jaded skeptic,
1530
00:54:48,666 --> 00:54:51,166
but this will never be autonomous, right?
1531
00:54:51,933 --> 00:54:53,733
uh, it's always going to be
1532
00:54:53,733 --> 00:54:55,333
controlled by a person and
1533
00:54:55,833 --> 00:54:57,433
Who can they get to do it at an
1534
00:54:57,433 --> 00:54:58,833
affordable rate people in
1535
00:54:58,833 --> 00:55:00,699
china people in india, right?
1536
00:55:00,699 --> 00:55:03,466
Like people who expect far less salaries
1537
00:55:03,466 --> 00:55:04,733
far lower salaries
1538
00:55:04,733 --> 00:55:05,866
than what we expect here
1539
00:55:06,366 --> 00:55:09,133
And so this just seems to me to be
1540
00:55:09,133 --> 00:55:09,733
completely
1541
00:55:09,733 --> 00:55:12,599
impractical at best and at worst
1542
00:55:12,633 --> 00:55:15,566
It's slavery with extra steps. I'm going
1543
00:55:15,566 --> 00:55:16,533
to say it's even worse
1544
00:55:17,266 --> 00:55:18,666
I bet you a lot of the people that are
1545
00:55:18,666 --> 00:55:20,099
going to be uh doing this
1546
00:55:20,099 --> 00:55:21,166
is going to be in states
1547
00:55:21,366 --> 00:55:22,966
and it's going to be because they lost
1548
00:55:22,966 --> 00:55:23,966
their jobs to ai and
1549
00:55:23,966 --> 00:55:24,933
they're going to be doing this for
1550
00:55:25,833 --> 00:55:26,766
like minimum wage
1551
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:29,066
Yeah, and it's going to be you're going
1552
00:55:29,066 --> 00:55:31,666
to be working a couple of robots in a
1553
00:55:31,666 --> 00:55:34,000
billionaire's house that they don't visit
1554
00:55:34,166 --> 00:55:35,433
They only visit once a year
1555
00:55:36,566 --> 00:55:37,400
And that's probably what
1556
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,566
you're going to be doing
1557
00:55:41,633 --> 00:55:43,066
I wonder if I would hate washing dishes
1558
00:55:43,066 --> 00:55:45,966
as much if I didn't have to feel it
1559
00:55:48,033 --> 00:55:50,566
I would I'd probably try to do macros.
1560
00:55:50,566 --> 00:55:51,099
I'd probably get fired
1561
00:55:51,099 --> 00:55:52,366
pretty quick because I do macros
1562
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,333
I'd be like, okay. I've done
1563
00:55:53,333 --> 00:55:55,133
this enough. I can track the uh
1564
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:56,033
like
1565
00:55:56,033 --> 00:55:59,599
They can go up the stairs. Yeah, they can
1566
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:00,766
do it. Well, I mean when you have
1567
00:56:00,766 --> 00:56:03,566
So can my three-year-old?
1568
00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:05,833
Grandgrandson you can
1569
00:56:05,833 --> 00:56:07,033
go up the stairs too
1570
00:56:07,533 --> 00:56:09,166
I'm like stop making them look like
1571
00:56:09,166 --> 00:56:10,366
people. It doesn't
1572
00:56:10,366 --> 00:56:11,333
need to look like a person
1573
00:56:11,366 --> 00:56:14,266
Um, yeah, that makes it harder for
1574
00:56:14,266 --> 00:56:16,333
everything else that it has to do
1575
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:17,366
so it's
1576
00:56:17,433 --> 00:56:19,266
Gartner's point about it being slavery
1577
00:56:19,266 --> 00:56:21,233
with a couple more steps is something
1578
00:56:21,233 --> 00:56:22,833
that I didn't really realize because I
1579
00:56:22,833 --> 00:56:24,266
didn't realize this was um
1580
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:26,466
Driven by a person. Well
1581
00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:28,733
They claim it works
1582
00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:30,133
autonomously by default
1583
00:56:30,566 --> 00:56:32,466
But for any chore it doesn't know you can
1584
00:56:32,466 --> 00:56:35,699
schedule a 1x expert to guide it helping
1585
00:56:35,699 --> 00:56:38,066
neo learn while getting the job done
1586
00:56:38,099 --> 00:56:39,833
I'm sorry
1587
00:56:39,833 --> 00:56:42,033
From my understanding none of
1588
00:56:42,033 --> 00:56:43,666
the jobs in the demo were done
1589
00:56:44,133 --> 00:56:46,599
Autonously from from my understanding of
1590
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:48,666
this they were all done and probably to
1591
00:56:48,666 --> 00:56:50,033
make sure that it looked good because
1592
00:56:51,033 --> 00:56:51,766
If you watch some of the
1593
00:56:51,766 --> 00:56:53,066
videos, it will take them
1594
00:56:53,666 --> 00:56:54,966
Up to five minutes to do some of the
1595
00:56:54,966 --> 00:56:56,500
stuff that would take you 10 seconds
1596
00:56:57,266 --> 00:56:57,733
um
1597
00:56:58,233 --> 00:57:00,033
My thing is why I'd want one
1598
00:57:00,033 --> 00:57:01,833
of these is just because it
1599
00:57:02,133 --> 00:57:04,266
I'd mod it. I'd want to mod it and do
1600
00:57:04,266 --> 00:57:05,666
stuff to it. I want to like
1601
00:57:05,666 --> 00:57:07,733
throw uh, my wi-fi in there
1602
00:57:07,766 --> 00:57:09,833
I don't know do something. Dude. Do you
1603
00:57:09,833 --> 00:57:12,533
like you like some chainsaw arms?
1604
00:57:13,533 --> 00:57:13,666
No
1605
00:57:16,233 --> 00:57:18,466
We're not getting stupid shirt
1606
00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:22,500
Yeah, there you go like dude they dude
1607
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:24,666
they're gonna reinvent like the fucking
1608
00:57:24,666 --> 00:57:25,866
battle robots that like
1609
00:57:25,866 --> 00:57:27,099
engineering students do
1610
00:57:29,366 --> 00:57:30,166
You know what
1611
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,900
You're just selling this for me more this
1612
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:36,333
is actually one of the lesser
1613
00:57:36,433 --> 00:57:39,099
uh, like the one like
1614
00:57:39,766 --> 00:57:41,966
the better looking robots because
1615
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,633
It looks less. I don't know. I don't
1616
00:57:44,633 --> 00:57:46,333
know. It looks a little less
1617
00:57:46,866 --> 00:57:49,166
dangerous where you look at the
1618
00:57:49,666 --> 00:57:51,566
Eye robots from I don't know what they're
1619
00:57:51,566 --> 00:57:53,633
called. What are they called from tesla?
1620
00:57:55,133 --> 00:57:56,866
Oh, yeah, those ones those ones looked a
1621
00:57:56,866 --> 00:57:58,133
little bit more dangerous where i'm like
1622
00:57:58,133 --> 00:58:00,133
you look like daf punk. I don't know
1623
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,766
Tesla's tesla's robots were just guys in
1624
00:58:02,766 --> 00:58:03,833
suits though, weren't they?
1625
00:58:04,566 --> 00:58:05,533
No, they were being controlled by
1626
00:58:05,533 --> 00:58:07,066
controllers too from understanding the
1627
00:58:07,066 --> 00:58:07,766
same thing. It's the same
1628
00:58:07,766 --> 00:58:08,666
thing. Is it an autonomous?
1629
00:58:08,866 --> 00:58:10,466
Yeah, I don't know a guy in the suit
1630
00:58:10,466 --> 00:58:12,833
could be in this with his possible like I
1631
00:58:12,833 --> 00:58:14,766
didn't I've never seen that waistline
1632
00:58:15,133 --> 00:58:17,166
Yeah, wow. Yeah, look at that possible
1633
00:58:17,166 --> 00:58:19,066
like hourglass figure right there
1634
00:58:19,266 --> 00:58:20,633
Hourglass. Yeah
1635
00:58:21,266 --> 00:58:23,533
Damn, you know, I mean they look the
1636
00:58:23,533 --> 00:58:24,866
tesla ones look cool for like
1637
00:58:25,433 --> 00:58:26,666
I think they all look kind of cool. I
1638
00:58:26,666 --> 00:58:27,433
like I like this stuff
1639
00:58:27,466 --> 00:58:30,000
I'm still skeptical but I would that does
1640
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,766
not look like it's
1641
00:58:30,766 --> 00:58:31,366
going to be in the house
1642
00:58:32,733 --> 00:58:35,866
No, well it I mean it had like the robots
1643
00:58:35,866 --> 00:58:37,800
have to be designed the way
1644
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,166
that the one we're talking about
1645
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,033
are because
1646
00:58:42,066 --> 00:58:44,133
Otherwise, no one would respond to them
1647
00:58:44,133 --> 00:58:45,533
like they are uncanny and
1648
00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:47,433
creepy and even just the way
1649
00:58:48,633 --> 00:58:49,766
The one we're talking about
1650
00:58:49,766 --> 00:58:52,066
moves is so unsettling to me
1651
00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:55,466
Like it's clearly like mechanical and
1652
00:58:55,466 --> 00:58:57,099
like it's got that weird stutter and
1653
00:58:57,099 --> 00:58:58,199
everything it's doing, you know
1654
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,666
and uh, but also like
1655
00:59:01,099 --> 00:59:02,666
every all the chores that it's showing
1656
00:59:03,366 --> 00:59:04,800
Uh, the robots doing in the
1657
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,566
videos none of them are dishes
1658
00:59:07,366 --> 00:59:09,033
Like have you noticed that like like
1659
00:59:09,033 --> 00:59:11,133
they're they're putting clean plates in
1660
00:59:11,133 --> 00:59:12,033
they're emptying the
1661
00:59:12,033 --> 00:59:13,366
dishwasher, right clean plates
1662
00:59:13,666 --> 00:59:16,066
But this thing's gonna get filthy and
1663
00:59:16,066 --> 00:59:17,666
you're gonna have to clean it all the
1664
00:59:17,666 --> 00:59:18,466
time. It's covered in cloth
1665
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,866
Yeah, why yeah, why did they cover in
1666
00:59:20,866 --> 00:59:22,566
cloth? That's the one thing I don't
1667
00:59:22,566 --> 00:59:23,766
understand they covered
1668
00:59:23,766 --> 00:59:26,066
in cloth because cloth
1669
00:59:26,566 --> 00:59:29,033
Looks soft and our dumb monkey
1670
00:59:29,033 --> 00:59:31,400
brains are like, oh it's soft
1671
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,066
But it's like literally if you go up and
1672
00:59:33,066 --> 00:59:34,166
poke it I bet you it's
1673
00:59:34,166 --> 00:59:35,533
like hard as rock man
1674
00:59:35,533 --> 00:59:38,666
Like it it's literally just to make it
1675
00:59:38,666 --> 00:59:39,699
look oh, i'm sure of
1676
00:59:39,699 --> 00:59:40,566
it. Look at those arms
1677
00:59:41,033 --> 00:59:43,500
It's sad because I haven't seen very many
1678
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,699
of these types of that's why I'm praising
1679
00:59:45,699 --> 00:59:46,300
this one a little bit more
1680
00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:49,466
It actually feels like it's not going to
1681
00:59:49,466 --> 00:59:51,666
kill me in the iRobot kind of situation.
1682
00:59:52,133 --> 00:59:53,199
So not with that attitude
1683
00:59:54,333 --> 00:59:56,533
How long before somebody gets one of
1684
00:59:56,533 --> 00:59:58,699
these and makes a low budget horror film?
1685
01:00:00,433 --> 01:00:02,133
Uh, probably within the first year or two
1686
01:00:02,133 --> 01:00:04,400
it'd be awesome. I uh, who knows what
1687
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,099
they have to sign when you
1688
01:00:05,099 --> 01:00:05,866
buy these in the beginning
1689
01:00:05,866 --> 01:00:06,633
I bet you there's some
1690
01:00:06,633 --> 01:00:09,433
stupid nda stuff, but um
1691
01:00:09,533 --> 01:00:10,766
You just just paint
1692
01:00:10,766 --> 01:00:11,900
it skull over his face
1693
01:00:12,466 --> 01:00:16,833
I'm on it. I'd do it but
1694
01:00:18,199 --> 01:00:19,533
This you're gonna have to have
1695
01:00:19,533 --> 01:00:20,933
you're not like you mentioned
1696
01:00:20,933 --> 01:00:22,500
It's gonna get filthy you're gonna have
1697
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:24,466
to have two so you don't
1698
01:00:24,466 --> 01:00:25,466
have to buy two they'll have it
1699
01:00:25,466 --> 01:00:27,366
They have to have a two pack. Oh, yeah,
1700
01:00:27,366 --> 01:00:28,666
so one can clean the other
1701
01:00:30,566 --> 01:00:34,900
It's still the one robot is doing in here
1702
01:00:36,733 --> 01:00:38,766
Unit one it is time for your bath
1703
01:00:39,766 --> 01:00:44,966
Man can't believe
1704
01:00:44,966 --> 01:00:46,566
they made robots not cool
1705
01:00:47,766 --> 01:00:49,633
Yeah, I mean this thing literally looks
1706
01:00:49,633 --> 01:00:52,033
like google home to me like, you know
1707
01:00:52,033 --> 01:00:53,966
No, i'm not saying the functionality is
1708
01:00:53,966 --> 01:00:54,566
not cool. I'm saying
1709
01:00:54,566 --> 01:00:56,266
they look fucking lame
1710
01:00:57,433 --> 01:00:59,133
Yeah, well, that's what's
1711
01:00:59,133 --> 01:01:00,566
gonna sell to the carbon use
1712
01:01:00,566 --> 01:01:04,733
You might not but but
1713
01:01:04,733 --> 01:01:05,966
that's what it's gonna sell
1714
01:01:05,966 --> 01:01:07,433
Yeah, but yeah high tech you can get one and you can get one
1715
01:01:07,466 --> 01:01:09,466
High tech you can get one and strip it
1716
01:01:09,466 --> 01:01:10,533
over the cloth and then
1717
01:01:10,533 --> 01:01:11,233
yeah, you can strip it
1718
01:01:11,533 --> 01:01:13,633
Yeah, then i'll just attach some bits and
1719
01:01:13,633 --> 01:01:14,133
make it look like a
1720
01:01:14,133 --> 01:01:15,266
gundam. That'd be awesome
1721
01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:17,933
You could probably modify I guarantee you
1722
01:01:17,933 --> 01:01:19,366
could modify this thing probably fairly
1723
01:01:19,366 --> 01:01:20,099
easily as long as you
1724
01:01:20,099 --> 01:01:20,933
don't cover any sensors
1725
01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:21,566
Which I don't know where
1726
01:01:21,566 --> 01:01:22,566
all the sensors are but
1727
01:01:23,033 --> 01:01:25,833
Yeah, uh, that's my hope. I don't know
1728
01:01:25,833 --> 01:01:27,066
where my hope is. I don't
1729
01:01:27,066 --> 01:01:28,800
cover any like sensitive bits
1730
01:01:29,266 --> 01:01:29,833
sensors
1731
01:01:31,366 --> 01:01:33,066
Sensitive bits, yeah
1732
01:01:33,933 --> 01:01:37,333
Dude frank youtubers are gonna have a
1733
01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:38,666
whole are gonna be
1734
01:01:38,666 --> 01:01:40,900
horrible to these little robots
1735
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:41,533
It will be bad
1736
01:01:41,833 --> 01:01:46,199
And then they're gonna learn that all
1737
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:47,699
humans are bad and then
1738
01:01:47,699 --> 01:01:49,133
they're gonna kill all of us
1739
01:01:50,066 --> 01:01:51,666
In like a in like a robot uprising.
1740
01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:53,533
That's why i'm being kind to it right
1741
01:01:53,533 --> 01:01:55,833
now. I for one love this robot
1742
01:01:56,466 --> 01:01:58,533
I also think that other people are gonna
1743
01:01:58,533 --> 01:02:01,000
love this thing because it is going to I
1744
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,133
mean people already have
1745
01:02:02,733 --> 01:02:03,066
uh
1746
01:02:04,066 --> 01:02:05,199
Ai girlfriends we talked
1747
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:06,866
about that what a week or two ago
1748
01:02:07,266 --> 01:02:08,699
Uh two weeks ago
1749
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:11,933
The just just imagine throwing your ai
1750
01:02:11,933 --> 01:02:14,033
into this thing and now you have your
1751
01:02:14,033 --> 01:02:15,166
girlfriend that can be
1752
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:18,266
It has ai a robot you see this. I know
1753
01:02:18,266 --> 01:02:19,766
but it's not going to be the one that
1754
01:02:19,766 --> 01:02:21,066
you've trained for years from
1755
01:02:21,766 --> 01:02:24,199
But james, that's why the tesla robot has
1756
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:25,366
the hourglass figure
1757
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,266
It's for elon musk to to lust
1758
01:02:28,266 --> 01:02:29,966
over that is not an hourglass
1759
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:33,866
It's technically shaped like an
1760
01:02:33,866 --> 01:02:35,533
hourglass, but it's not
1761
01:02:35,533 --> 01:02:37,466
the one that people like
1762
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:41,800
Right that is not
1763
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,000
shaped like an hour but okay
1764
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,733
Okay, it does have a thigh. Yeah damn
1765
01:02:50,233 --> 01:02:53,733
Optimus how about uh
1766
01:02:54,466 --> 01:02:55,433
Elon musk is in a
1767
01:02:55,433 --> 01:02:57,433
relationship with optimus gen two
1768
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:02,333
I don't know robots are crazy
1769
01:03:03,533 --> 01:03:07,866
I love motion capture. It's not a guy so
1770
01:03:07,866 --> 01:03:09,800
I guess it is a guy in a suit
1771
01:03:10,233 --> 01:03:12,966
Well then yeah, that's probably an easy
1772
01:03:12,966 --> 01:03:15,000
way to train it to in the beginning um
1773
01:03:15,133 --> 01:03:17,866
I'm curious like how much these are going
1774
01:03:17,866 --> 01:03:19,099
to cost in like 10 years
1775
01:03:19,099 --> 01:03:22,133
So let's go 10 years from now. They they
1776
01:03:22,133 --> 01:03:24,033
won't exist because this is all like
1777
01:03:24,033 --> 01:03:25,833
post-capitalist like uh
1778
01:03:26,466 --> 01:03:29,966
Penis jousting so it's ridiculous
1779
01:03:29,966 --> 01:03:32,099
speaking of penis jousting. You can
1780
01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:34,133
actually pre-order these today
1781
01:03:34,733 --> 01:03:37,500
You can pre-order you can put a you can
1782
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:38,766
put down a deposit of 200
1783
01:03:39,533 --> 01:03:42,433
Wow, it's only going to cost 200 bucks
1784
01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:43,666
I wish
1785
01:03:43,666 --> 01:03:46,500
So you can either you can you can get the
1786
01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:49,933
uh standard robot which is 500 a month
1787
01:03:50,633 --> 01:03:52,766
Or you can get the early access version
1788
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,933
Where you own the where you quote unquote
1789
01:03:55,933 --> 01:03:58,333
own the device for 20k
1790
01:03:59,666 --> 01:04:01,733
Until they shut the servers down. Yeah,
1791
01:04:01,733 --> 01:04:04,633
probably yeah, you can get them in uh,
1792
01:04:05,266 --> 01:04:07,533
but cream blue
1793
01:04:08,466 --> 01:04:09,433
and black
1794
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,966
Yeah, that's actually not unreasonable
1795
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,666
What are those
1796
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:22,599
Damn, those are proper
1797
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,033
shoes. What are you talking about?
1798
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,133
Dom daniel bucket again with the vans.
1799
01:04:28,133 --> 01:04:30,766
What's the dr. Shills?
1800
01:04:33,033 --> 01:04:34,333
They're orthopedics
1801
01:04:35,033 --> 01:04:35,366
dude
1802
01:04:36,633 --> 01:04:37,833
Just take a mask on this
1803
01:04:37,833 --> 01:04:39,566
guy. He he doesn't look he
1804
01:04:40,466 --> 01:04:42,166
God damn it. I don't like
1805
01:04:42,166 --> 01:04:44,366
the way this looks I know
1806
01:04:45,133 --> 01:04:46,033
Okay guys
1807
01:04:46,933 --> 01:04:48,300
I know how I deck it out. I'd
1808
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:49,766
put my dead space mask on it
1809
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:50,966
I see
1810
01:04:51,866 --> 01:04:52,966
Wait, how tall is this?
1811
01:04:53,533 --> 01:04:55,066
Neo guy because I know
1812
01:04:55,066 --> 01:04:56,900
gardener's like a tall boy
1813
01:04:57,366 --> 01:04:58,233
I'm six three
1814
01:04:58,833 --> 01:05:00,066
Yeah, gardener's a tall boy
1815
01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:04,333
I don't know. It's probably shorter than
1816
01:05:04,333 --> 01:05:06,433
me. It looks like it's like four foot
1817
01:05:06,433 --> 01:05:08,633
ten. See neo, right?
1818
01:05:12,133 --> 01:05:13,233
It's five six
1819
01:05:13,233 --> 01:05:16,566
It weighs 66 pounds
1820
01:05:17,666 --> 01:05:21,233
It can lift up to 154 pounds
1821
01:05:22,066 --> 01:05:22,433
so
1822
01:05:23,033 --> 01:05:23,733
Pretty impressive
1823
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,300
Yeah, that's not bad
1824
01:05:26,166 --> 01:05:27,233
Just think about how many people are
1825
01:05:27,233 --> 01:05:28,599
gonna lose their jobs over this
1826
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,266
Like the caretakers and the maids
1827
01:05:32,266 --> 01:05:34,766
Yeah, I think you know the the people
1828
01:05:34,766 --> 01:05:35,933
that replace the like
1829
01:05:35,933 --> 01:05:38,566
house takers, um, uh
1830
01:05:38,566 --> 01:05:39,966
They're gonna regret this obviously.
1831
01:05:39,966 --> 01:05:41,933
They're not gonna do nearly the same.
1832
01:05:41,933 --> 01:05:42,966
They're they're probably not gonna
1833
01:05:42,966 --> 01:05:43,566
replace them in the beginning
1834
01:05:43,633 --> 01:05:45,766
They can't this is gonna be like a
1835
01:05:45,766 --> 01:05:48,099
novelty thing. The price is actually not
1836
01:05:48,099 --> 01:05:49,466
unreasonable, but it is
1837
01:05:50,066 --> 01:05:52,599
If you want you just pay someone to do
1838
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:54,133
the chores, I guess you're gonna get a
1839
01:05:54,133 --> 01:05:55,433
better deal much better
1840
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,800
You know who is losing their jobs?
1841
01:05:58,466 --> 01:06:00,233
Amazon employees. Yeah
1842
01:06:01,033 --> 01:06:02,133
More specifically those
1843
01:06:02,133 --> 01:06:03,266
in the gaming industry
1844
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,699
as reported by jason schreier
1845
01:06:06,866 --> 01:06:07,233
so
1846
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:08,833
for those who don't know
1847
01:06:09,766 --> 01:06:12,800
Amazon is doing the layout doing layoffs
1848
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,466
lots of layoffs in the games, uh sector
1849
01:06:16,233 --> 01:06:17,500
Which proves that the games
1850
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:19,166
industry is unfortunately very
1851
01:06:19,933 --> 01:06:21,199
What's what i'm looking for?
1852
01:06:21,766 --> 01:06:22,166
unhealthy
1853
01:06:22,933 --> 01:06:25,766
Yeah volatile. I mean yes the gaming the
1854
01:06:25,766 --> 01:06:27,266
game industry is very unhealthy
1855
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,000
But amazon has mismanaged their their
1856
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,300
gaming. Yeah ventures every time
1857
01:06:35,266 --> 01:06:37,699
Yeah, every time they've done an awful
1858
01:06:37,699 --> 01:06:40,199
job communicating what it is that they do
1859
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:42,500
it's hidden behind 13
1860
01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:43,766
different names you have
1861
01:06:44,233 --> 01:06:45,533
prime then you have
1862
01:06:45,533 --> 01:06:48,666
twitch then you have luna and
1863
01:06:49,133 --> 01:06:51,133
like all of that stuff is
1864
01:06:52,166 --> 01:06:54,866
like it doesn't like if if i'm a
1865
01:06:55,266 --> 01:06:57,500
Gamer and I go to amazon and search for a
1866
01:06:57,500 --> 01:06:58,199
game. It should
1867
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,533
automatically pop up on amazon
1868
01:07:00,966 --> 01:07:02,266
Hey gardener's streaming
1869
01:07:02,266 --> 01:07:03,766
this right now on twitch
1870
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,533
And I could see it right then and if I
1871
01:07:06,533 --> 01:07:08,433
click on or don't call it twitch call it
1872
01:07:08,433 --> 01:07:09,666
amazon streaming or something
1873
01:07:09,666 --> 01:07:11,466
And then I clicked on it and go through
1874
01:07:11,833 --> 01:07:13,699
I can see some gameplay of it and then
1875
01:07:13,699 --> 01:07:14,599
there's a buy button
1876
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:16,333
right underneath his window
1877
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,500
Like that's the kind of thing where
1878
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:20,466
amazon was in a really good place
1879
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:23,133
But instead they decided to
1880
01:07:23,133 --> 01:07:25,000
do some really goofy stuff
1881
01:07:25,933 --> 01:07:27,833
You know amazon they should hire you bill
1882
01:07:29,166 --> 01:07:29,866
Then no
1883
01:07:30,633 --> 01:07:31,566
You could be there. You
1884
01:07:31,566 --> 01:07:33,433
could be their top gaming exec
1885
01:07:35,233 --> 01:07:36,199
Amazon is one of those
1886
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:37,866
companies that like proves that
1887
01:07:38,533 --> 01:07:40,833
merit meritocracy doesn't exist
1888
01:07:41,766 --> 01:07:43,900
Like it has nothing to do with
1889
01:07:44,566 --> 01:07:44,966
uh
1890
01:07:44,966 --> 01:07:47,199
It has everything to do with appeasing
1891
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:49,066
jeff bezos and nothing to do with
1892
01:07:49,066 --> 01:07:50,666
actually making money for the company
1893
01:07:51,266 --> 01:07:53,033
It's yeah, it's crazy
1894
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:55,633
So one more thing too, is that uh, so
1895
01:07:55,633 --> 01:07:57,933
they have an mmo that they developed and
1896
01:07:57,933 --> 01:07:59,633
published called new world
1897
01:08:00,233 --> 01:08:01,566
it was good and
1898
01:08:02,933 --> 01:08:05,066
It's it's uh effective
1899
01:08:05,066 --> 01:08:07,300
immediately it is unfortunately
1900
01:08:09,033 --> 01:08:09,966
They're basically season
1901
01:08:09,966 --> 01:08:11,866
development for future content
1902
01:08:12,733 --> 01:08:14,833
And they say the servers will be up
1903
01:08:15,233 --> 01:08:17,066
Uh throughout next year as well, but
1904
01:08:17,066 --> 01:08:18,166
there's no telling when
1905
01:08:18,166 --> 01:08:19,600
the servers will be shut down
1906
01:08:20,033 --> 01:08:20,666
Are they going to release
1907
01:08:20,666 --> 01:08:21,833
the source code for that?
1908
01:08:23,233 --> 01:08:25,233
I doubt it not the source code but like
1909
01:08:25,233 --> 01:08:26,466
the server at least so that we could run
1910
01:08:26,466 --> 01:08:27,566
our own servers like that's
1911
01:08:27,933 --> 01:08:30,500
I and I only say that because you know,
1912
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:31,466
we've we've talked about
1913
01:08:31,466 --> 01:08:33,633
this. Uh, don't kill games
1914
01:08:34,066 --> 01:08:34,366
games
1915
01:08:35,133 --> 01:08:37,233
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We had a that's my
1916
01:08:37,233 --> 01:08:38,333
movement. We had ross
1917
01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:39,633
from uh accursed farms
1918
01:08:39,766 --> 01:08:41,333
You know the head figure for stock
1919
01:08:41,333 --> 01:08:41,833
playing games.
1920
01:08:41,833 --> 01:08:43,066
They've been doing good work
1921
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,533
We haven't followed it in a little bit,
1922
01:08:45,533 --> 01:08:47,133
but you know from what we understand the
1923
01:08:47,133 --> 01:08:48,233
fight's gonna be it's
1924
01:08:48,233 --> 01:08:49,433
gonna be a long fight
1925
01:08:51,433 --> 01:08:52,966
And honestly, I mean
1926
01:08:53,433 --> 01:08:54,733
I don't know if new
1927
01:08:54,733 --> 01:08:56,933
world can be saved in time
1928
01:08:57,366 --> 01:08:59,533
unless amazon graces unless mr
1929
01:08:59,533 --> 01:09:00,866
Bezos graces us with
1930
01:09:01,533 --> 01:09:04,500
The uh programs to run our own servers on
1931
01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:07,033
No, or one of those amazon
1932
01:09:07,033 --> 01:09:08,733
employees that got laid off
1933
01:09:09,633 --> 01:09:11,733
Probably has a copy somewhere on a
1934
01:09:11,733 --> 01:09:13,366
computer that they have somewhere of that
1935
01:09:13,366 --> 01:09:14,399
server. They could
1936
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:15,366
always, you know accidentally
1937
01:09:15,766 --> 01:09:17,066
Yeah, accidentally. Yeah
1938
01:09:17,066 --> 01:09:18,866
accidentally. Yeah release it as
1939
01:09:19,366 --> 01:09:22,100
Nice as that would be I'd be I would
1940
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:22,933
worry that he would
1941
01:09:22,933 --> 01:09:24,233
like be sued to oblivion
1942
01:09:24,733 --> 01:09:26,366
He'd get sued but i'm also kind of
1943
01:09:26,366 --> 01:09:28,166
curious if you're not going to support it
1944
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,466
I don't know. I'd like this like if we
1945
01:09:30,466 --> 01:09:31,666
had a proper core system
1946
01:09:31,666 --> 01:09:33,066
I'd like I'd like to see if you're not
1947
01:09:33,066 --> 01:09:34,333
going to support the software anymore
1948
01:09:36,466 --> 01:09:38,500
So amazon's been pivoting towards making
1949
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:41,000
luna their uh bread and butter for the
1950
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,133
game for their part of the games industry
1951
01:09:44,333 --> 01:09:46,833
But they also last released a game called
1952
01:09:46,833 --> 01:09:49,966
courtroom chaos a party game
1953
01:09:51,933 --> 01:09:53,833
Featuring an ai version of snoop dog
1954
01:09:55,899 --> 01:09:57,133
And it's a streaming game
1955
01:09:59,166 --> 01:10:01,566
And it looks it kind of looks wack
1956
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:05,533
Let's watch some
1957
01:10:05,533 --> 01:10:09,533
footage do we have to yes
1958
01:10:09,533 --> 01:10:18,233
Yeah, where's the gameplay oh there it is
1959
01:10:20,666 --> 01:10:22,166
It looks like a black animation
1960
01:10:24,766 --> 01:10:27,366
Yeah, it's so weird how some of these
1961
01:10:27,366 --> 01:10:29,166
games have not changed in decades
1962
01:10:31,666 --> 01:10:33,633
What party games yeah
1963
01:10:35,366 --> 01:10:38,133
I mean I like playing games like um
1964
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,033
Use your words and jackbox
1965
01:10:41,033 --> 01:10:42,966
games. Those are always fun
1966
01:10:42,966 --> 01:10:45,199
I don't know how they
1967
01:10:45,666 --> 01:10:47,833
could evolve past what they already are
1968
01:10:47,833 --> 01:10:50,533
because you can't introduce two complex
1969
01:10:50,533 --> 01:10:51,966
mechanics or anything because
1970
01:10:52,866 --> 01:10:55,000
They're played by people who don't
1971
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,266
regularly play games
1972
01:10:57,266 --> 01:10:58,566
Oh, I agree. I'm not
1973
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,466
I'm not it's just like there's new tech
1974
01:11:00,466 --> 01:11:01,300
that always comes out to
1975
01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:02,500
kind of like try to sell it
1976
01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:03,933
I've seen it time and time again
1977
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,033
This is one of those things where it
1978
01:11:05,033 --> 01:11:06,533
looks like they probably put way too much
1979
01:11:06,533 --> 01:11:07,533
money into it and it's
1980
01:11:07,533 --> 01:11:09,166
a it's like a flash game
1981
01:11:09,566 --> 01:11:11,366
And that's why it seems like you're just
1982
01:11:11,366 --> 01:11:12,566
trying to convince uh
1983
01:11:12,566 --> 01:11:15,399
snoop dog, uh judge dog here
1984
01:11:16,166 --> 01:11:17,966
You're trying to convince them to go to
1985
01:11:18,566 --> 01:11:20,500
Rule in favor of you. I have no idea how
1986
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:21,600
the actual gameplay is
1987
01:11:22,399 --> 01:11:24,633
But it seems like you're just talking and
1988
01:11:24,633 --> 01:11:25,533
he kind of just listens
1989
01:11:26,466 --> 01:11:27,733
And that's the game
1990
01:11:31,966 --> 01:11:34,233
Your honor, I mean snoop dog, I mean sir
1991
01:11:34,233 --> 01:11:36,899
do I get to talk to him that made that
1992
01:11:36,899 --> 01:11:37,866
kind of a cool mechanic
1993
01:11:41,266 --> 01:11:42,833
You know game and hardware no scripts
1994
01:11:42,833 --> 01:11:44,399
just your voice imagination whatever
1995
01:11:44,399 --> 01:11:45,566
chaos you bring to the bench
1996
01:11:46,066 --> 01:11:47,899
You're selling this more for me what they
1997
01:11:47,899 --> 01:11:49,866
put up here is not selling me at all
1998
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,166
But then again, i'm probably not the
1999
01:11:52,166 --> 01:11:54,066
generation or i'm probably not the uh
2000
01:11:54,366 --> 01:11:56,666
Target so at some point we probably do
2001
01:11:56,666 --> 01:11:57,566
have to try this out
2002
01:11:57,566 --> 01:11:58,633
out of more curiosity
2003
01:12:00,633 --> 01:12:02,166
But not right now yeah
2004
01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:04,066
Is it gonna be gone?
2005
01:12:04,766 --> 01:12:06,366
So what's gonna happen to luna?
2006
01:12:07,899 --> 01:12:08,966
I don't know what's gonna happen. Luna.
2007
01:12:08,966 --> 01:12:10,766
They didn't they didn't lay off enough of
2008
01:12:10,766 --> 01:12:12,399
those guys to kill luna yet
2009
01:12:13,766 --> 01:12:15,066
I don't know man amazon's
2010
01:12:15,066 --> 01:12:17,233
it's some fuck it honestly games
2011
01:12:18,066 --> 01:12:20,066
Honestly any company that isn't the game
2012
01:12:20,066 --> 01:12:21,300
already in the games
2013
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:22,033
industry at this point
2014
01:12:22,566 --> 01:12:24,300
Is doomed to like fail to
2015
01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:25,566
break into the games industry?
2016
01:12:26,433 --> 01:12:27,033
in my opinion
2017
01:12:27,833 --> 01:12:30,566
Like I just think if you're if you try to
2018
01:12:30,566 --> 01:12:32,833
put too much money into it if you're um
2019
01:12:33,033 --> 01:12:35,633
A billion dollar company if you're just
2020
01:12:35,633 --> 01:12:37,133
one of these even even
2021
01:12:37,133 --> 01:12:38,500
the big publishers nowadays
2022
01:12:39,266 --> 01:12:41,566
Are just I don't think i'd go work for
2023
01:12:41,566 --> 01:12:42,266
them. I wouldn't recommend
2024
01:12:42,266 --> 01:12:43,800
anyone working for them. No
2025
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,266
Yeah, the massive brain drain you're like
2026
01:12:47,266 --> 01:12:49,533
you get paid a lot less than like a
2027
01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:50,966
similar engineer and like a
2028
01:12:51,533 --> 01:12:53,633
Like a software developer at like a bank
2029
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,433
For example, I mean your talents are to
2030
01:12:58,433 --> 01:13:00,066
be honest better off
2031
01:13:00,066 --> 01:13:01,233
working at a company that
2032
01:13:02,333 --> 01:13:04,033
Isn't in a such a volatile
2033
01:13:04,033 --> 01:13:05,733
industry as well to be honest
2034
01:13:06,233 --> 01:13:08,033
You might not even get the experience you
2035
01:13:08,033 --> 01:13:09,800
would need from these companies, too
2036
01:13:10,533 --> 01:13:12,033
Yeah, that's another part of the problem.
2037
01:13:12,033 --> 01:13:15,166
I mean honestly like the only way I would
2038
01:13:15,166 --> 01:13:16,233
ever recommend working
2039
01:13:16,233 --> 01:13:17,733
for a triple-a publisher
2040
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,966
Is if you were unionized
2041
01:13:20,633 --> 01:13:20,899
Yeah
2042
01:13:23,133 --> 01:13:25,133
Which brings us to the next topic
2043
01:13:26,866 --> 01:13:28,500
GTA studio accused of
2044
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:29,833
union busting after firing
2045
01:13:30,966 --> 01:13:34,733
So take two fired 30 to 40 people across
2046
01:13:34,733 --> 01:13:38,166
offices in the uk and canada on thursday
2047
01:13:39,366 --> 01:13:39,966
and
2048
01:13:40,566 --> 01:13:42,566
the official reasoning was quote
2049
01:13:45,133 --> 01:13:48,600
Let me see what it was again, sorry I had
2050
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,866
the quote put somewhere gross misconduct
2051
01:13:52,466 --> 01:13:54,233
Now that's the official reason why they
2052
01:13:54,233 --> 01:13:55,566
got fired but as we all know
2053
01:13:55,666 --> 01:13:59,233
That doesn't need to be fired for any
2054
01:13:59,233 --> 01:14:01,866
reason to be honest, but the internet
2055
01:14:01,866 --> 01:14:02,666
independent workers
2056
01:14:02,666 --> 01:14:04,399
union of great britain
2057
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,066
Claims that they were fired because they
2058
01:14:06,066 --> 01:14:07,433
were trying to unionize
2059
01:14:08,566 --> 01:14:10,600
Well, you can't be fired for
2060
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,466
any reason that's the thing
2061
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,133
We're supposed to have
2062
01:14:14,133 --> 01:14:15,633
pretty strong union laws
2063
01:14:15,766 --> 01:14:17,933
To prevent this type of stuff and there
2064
01:14:17,933 --> 01:14:20,333
and these big tech companies. That's why
2065
01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:20,866
they're probably another reason why they're
2066
01:14:20,899 --> 01:14:23,366
Another reason why they're uh
2067
01:14:24,133 --> 01:14:26,433
Placating to the administration every
2068
01:14:26,433 --> 01:14:28,133
time is because they get
2069
01:14:28,133 --> 01:14:29,800
away with union busting
2070
01:14:30,233 --> 01:14:32,833
So much that's another reason why we have
2071
01:14:32,833 --> 01:14:33,966
so many layoffs so many
2072
01:14:33,966 --> 01:14:36,333
issues in the labor market is
2073
01:14:36,866 --> 01:14:37,433
um
2074
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,399
Our labor laws and and just everything
2075
01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:42,433
labor related that that would be related
2076
01:14:42,433 --> 01:14:44,866
to unions are it's just fucked right now
2077
01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:46,966
So as you can see here
2078
01:14:47,433 --> 01:14:49,433
All the employees were part of a private
2079
01:14:49,433 --> 01:14:51,366
union group chat and discord
2080
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,766
And they were either members of the union
2081
01:14:53,766 --> 01:14:56,033
or attempting to organize at the company
2082
01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:57,533
the union spokesperson said
2083
01:14:58,466 --> 01:15:00,033
And they also claimed that rockstar just
2084
01:15:00,033 --> 01:15:01,833
carried out one of the most blatant and
2085
01:15:01,833 --> 01:15:03,433
ruthless acts of union busting in the
2086
01:15:03,433 --> 01:15:04,533
history of the games
2087
01:15:04,633 --> 01:15:05,100
industry
2088
01:15:06,466 --> 01:15:07,933
Now I don't know how true this is because
2089
01:15:07,933 --> 01:15:10,066
i'm not familiar with any other acts of
2090
01:15:10,066 --> 01:15:11,199
union busting in the games industry
2091
01:15:11,366 --> 01:15:13,833
But if true that it certainly
2092
01:15:13,833 --> 01:15:15,966
is a crazy thing to see here
2093
01:15:17,033 --> 01:15:19,500
Yeah, and I wouldn't put it past take two
2094
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:20,133
because they have a
2095
01:15:20,133 --> 01:15:22,733
reputation for just being contemptible
2096
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:26,233
It's unfortunate like
2097
01:15:26,233 --> 01:15:28,566
I don't know if they're
2098
01:15:28,566 --> 01:15:30,666
Um, we only have a few game companies
2099
01:15:30,666 --> 01:15:32,500
that actually have unions, right?
2100
01:15:32,966 --> 01:15:36,199
Um, I think blizzard recently unionized
2101
01:15:37,033 --> 01:15:39,466
I think it was just part of blizzard just
2102
01:15:39,466 --> 01:15:41,833
part of it. Yeah, was it in the u.s or
2103
01:15:41,833 --> 01:15:42,766
was it a different country?
2104
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:46,033
That's a good question, yeah
2105
01:15:47,433 --> 01:15:48,433
Oh, yeah, because they
2106
01:15:48,433 --> 01:15:49,933
they do have different offices
2107
01:15:50,066 --> 01:15:51,933
Yeah, these these game companies will
2108
01:15:51,933 --> 01:15:53,733
have union they can have unions in
2109
01:15:53,733 --> 01:15:54,800
different countries because you know,
2110
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,333
it's much easier in europe but
2111
01:15:57,166 --> 01:15:57,600
um
2112
01:15:58,633 --> 01:15:59,500
I think it was a mirror
2113
01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:01,366
like in the in the states. Yeah
2114
01:16:01,933 --> 01:16:05,133
So it looks like they're based in irvine
2115
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,233
Yeah, which is where blizzard is uh
2116
01:16:07,233 --> 01:16:08,766
based. Is that and that's where they
2117
01:16:08,766 --> 01:16:09,766
unionize that that
2118
01:16:09,766 --> 01:16:11,566
studio or that portion of it
2119
01:16:11,566 --> 01:16:13,699
Yeah, that's like their headquarters. I
2120
01:16:13,699 --> 01:16:15,733
think in irvine. So like I would say
2121
01:16:16,233 --> 01:16:18,766
It must be like the core blizzard
2122
01:16:18,766 --> 01:16:19,966
employees and not like some
2123
01:16:19,966 --> 01:16:21,100
offshoot in a different country
2124
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:23,933
Well
2125
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:27,100
Hopefully take two is taking a court over
2126
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:28,866
this and they get slapped down
2127
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:31,766
Yeah, but who's going to take them to
2128
01:16:31,766 --> 01:16:34,533
court because they have buckets of cash
2129
01:16:34,633 --> 01:16:37,500
And the people who would take them to
2130
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:39,466
court don't have buckets of cash. So
2131
01:16:39,466 --> 01:16:41,800
You get it's like you got like the best
2132
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,266
lawyers in the world versus you
2133
01:16:43,266 --> 01:16:44,233
representing yourself
2134
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:47,333
And not to mention they're about to get
2135
01:16:47,333 --> 01:16:49,000
some more cash if this release dates to
2136
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,333
be believed from gta6
2137
01:16:50,333 --> 01:16:52,066
They can get another bucket of cash
2138
01:16:52,933 --> 01:16:55,466
Like quite unless gta6 is like a
2139
01:16:55,466 --> 01:16:56,533
catastrophic failure
2140
01:16:56,566 --> 01:16:57,899
I hope it is
2141
01:16:58,733 --> 01:16:59,833
I don't see it being the case to be
2142
01:16:59,833 --> 01:17:02,266
honest, but I I I get I
2143
01:17:02,266 --> 01:17:03,366
get the optimism gardener
2144
01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:05,600
I'm not interested in it
2145
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,500
But i'm don't hope it fails because I I
2146
01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:10,633
don't ever want something to be bad. I
2147
01:17:10,633 --> 01:17:11,966
always want it to be good
2148
01:17:12,533 --> 01:17:14,066
Yeah, but but you're
2149
01:17:14,066 --> 01:17:15,300
nicer than I am no bill
2150
01:17:15,666 --> 01:17:15,933
Yeah
2151
01:17:16,566 --> 01:17:17,733
build a nice guy
2152
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,066
But gta6
2153
01:17:20,566 --> 01:17:22,666
It's basically guaranteed to succeed
2154
01:17:23,366 --> 01:17:25,533
Unless it's a catastrophic failure for
2155
01:17:25,533 --> 01:17:26,533
some reason or another
2156
01:17:26,533 --> 01:17:27,233
it will still succeed
2157
01:17:27,433 --> 01:17:28,733
Pre-order is a loan. I probably already
2158
01:17:28,733 --> 01:17:31,433
paid for it. Um, it's it's it's i'm sorry
2159
01:17:31,433 --> 01:17:32,500
to say gardener. It is
2160
01:17:32,500 --> 01:17:33,733
succeeded at this point
2161
01:17:33,766 --> 01:17:35,866
I mean the thing is if it failed it
2162
01:17:35,866 --> 01:17:37,300
wouldn't be the people at the top of
2163
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:38,933
rockstar and take two that suffered
2164
01:17:38,933 --> 01:17:40,266
It would be everything who worked on it.
2165
01:17:40,266 --> 01:17:42,233
Yeah, so yeah, I mean, I don't know man
2166
01:17:42,699 --> 01:17:45,633
gta6 must like oh, it's a super extensive
2167
01:17:45,633 --> 01:17:47,733
game i'm not i'm wondering if
2168
01:17:48,466 --> 01:17:49,966
Hypothetically if it were to catastrophic
2169
01:17:49,966 --> 01:17:51,899
fail would it take the entire company to?
2170
01:17:52,733 --> 01:17:54,266
Yeah, the suits never
2171
01:17:55,366 --> 01:17:57,033
Those suits never experience
2172
01:17:57,033 --> 01:17:59,500
consequences. Yeah, they never will
2173
01:17:59,500 --> 01:18:01,566
because even if they get fired
2174
01:18:01,666 --> 01:18:03,666
They usually have like um
2175
01:18:03,666 --> 01:18:05,266
exit packages that are so
2176
01:18:06,166 --> 01:18:08,100
Um padded with cash
2177
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:09,366
that yeah, they're just
2178
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,566
Yeah, that's exactly yeah, and they can
2179
01:18:11,566 --> 01:18:13,033
just go to another industry and like fuck
2180
01:18:13,033 --> 01:18:14,366
that industry out too
2181
01:18:14,833 --> 01:18:16,466
Yeah, which oh my gosh, and then yeah
2182
01:18:16,466 --> 01:18:18,566
that happens. That's what happened to
2183
01:18:18,566 --> 01:18:20,466
unity. That's what happened to xbox
2184
01:18:21,666 --> 01:18:23,833
Yeah xbox and unity that's crazy
2185
01:18:24,566 --> 01:18:25,066
um
2186
01:18:25,433 --> 01:18:26,433
I will have to say
2187
01:18:27,433 --> 01:18:29,333
There are some strong cases for these
2188
01:18:29,333 --> 01:18:32,699
unions to uh to um win when they try to
2189
01:18:32,699 --> 01:18:34,333
unionize it really depends on
2190
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:39,399
How it it fails like um, and and so and
2191
01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:41,266
there are some lawyers that will work
2192
01:18:41,899 --> 01:18:43,666
um with these types of like there are
2193
01:18:43,666 --> 01:18:44,800
union lawyers who will
2194
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,233
work with these but uh
2195
01:18:46,233 --> 01:18:49,966
Uh, I mean 30 to 40 is not a very big
2196
01:18:49,966 --> 01:18:50,966
amount that got laid
2197
01:18:50,966 --> 01:18:52,633
that got fired and so
2198
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:53,733
um
2199
01:18:54,466 --> 01:18:56,699
I think the only way to really fix the
2200
01:18:56,699 --> 01:18:58,166
unionization and like the
2201
01:18:58,166 --> 01:18:59,699
the labor market is through
2202
01:19:00,166 --> 01:19:01,766
Having good lawmakers and we just don't
2203
01:19:01,766 --> 01:19:03,500
have that and good courts and we just
2204
01:19:03,500 --> 01:19:05,033
don't have that until that's fixed
2205
01:19:05,266 --> 01:19:06,699
I don't think any of this other stuff's
2206
01:19:06,699 --> 01:19:08,666
going to get solved. Well, remember this
2207
01:19:08,666 --> 01:19:10,300
is primarily in great britain
2208
01:19:10,566 --> 01:19:12,500
So we don't it's great britain is going
2209
01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:14,466
through some a lot of issues with their
2210
01:19:14,466 --> 01:19:16,033
courts too. Oh, are they
2211
01:19:16,033 --> 01:19:17,399
type of stuff? Yeah, well
2212
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,066
Couldn't be worse than our course. I mean
2213
01:19:20,066 --> 01:19:21,066
look at some of those laws
2214
01:19:21,066 --> 01:19:21,833
that are passed right now
2215
01:19:21,833 --> 01:19:23,666
It's also kind of just bizarre where oh,
2216
01:19:23,666 --> 01:19:27,066
yeah the uh, the verification laws. Yeah
2217
01:19:28,233 --> 01:19:29,633
Well, this is this will be certainly
2218
01:19:29,633 --> 01:19:32,399
interesting lots of legal cases. I mean
2219
01:19:32,866 --> 01:19:34,633
After all what's another
2220
01:19:34,633 --> 01:19:36,066
court case to add here?
2221
01:19:36,233 --> 01:19:40,133
So as you know, so i'm not sure if you
2222
01:19:40,133 --> 01:19:41,333
guys have heard of this but
2223
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,533
Like during the early days of chad gpt
2224
01:19:44,533 --> 01:19:48,166
Someone fed chat gpt effectively the
2225
01:19:48,166 --> 01:19:50,933
entire uh, all of the game of thrones
2226
01:19:50,933 --> 01:19:53,033
books all the song of ice and fire books
2227
01:19:53,033 --> 01:19:56,000
That were currently released and someone
2228
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,666
had them basically write a sequel
2229
01:19:57,666 --> 01:20:00,033
the write the sixth and seventh books
2230
01:20:00,733 --> 01:20:03,433
And george r martin
2231
01:20:03,433 --> 01:20:04,466
was not happy about that
2232
01:20:05,433 --> 01:20:08,966
And very recently a judge ruled that
2233
01:20:08,966 --> 01:20:12,300
All of these authors could now sue open
2234
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:13,466
ai in a class action
2235
01:20:13,466 --> 01:20:15,199
lawsuit open ai and microsoft
2236
01:20:16,633 --> 01:20:19,033
And there are and it's
2237
01:20:19,033 --> 01:20:21,533
very interesting but uh
2238
01:20:21,933 --> 01:20:23,133
It's very interesting case
2239
01:20:23,133 --> 01:20:24,566
because this could determine
2240
01:20:25,266 --> 01:20:29,100
Copyright infringement in open ai, you
2241
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:30,733
know in ai models altogether
2242
01:20:31,133 --> 01:20:32,866
I would hope so at least
2243
01:20:33,899 --> 01:20:35,366
It's a very important case and it's gonna
2244
01:20:35,366 --> 01:20:37,433
use the amount of money that's probably
2245
01:20:37,433 --> 01:20:38,266
going to go into this is
2246
01:20:38,266 --> 01:20:40,133
gonna be crazy from both sides
2247
01:20:41,066 --> 01:20:42,433
Um, I will have to say though
2248
01:20:43,433 --> 01:20:45,633
I am on chat gpt side on this
2249
01:20:46,633 --> 01:20:48,666
Because they at least finished the book
2250
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:49,066
series
2251
01:20:50,166 --> 01:20:51,300
I'm just kidding. I
2252
01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:52,566
don't even read the books but
2253
01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:53,699
so
2254
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,833
George what was the last time george r
2255
01:20:57,833 --> 01:20:59,866
martin released a game of thrones book? I
2256
01:20:59,866 --> 01:21:00,699
gotta figure this out
2257
01:21:01,266 --> 01:21:02,966
Because it's been a while
2258
01:21:03,666 --> 01:21:05,800
The books came out like the first like
2259
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,866
few books came out in like the 90s
2260
01:21:08,366 --> 01:21:10,133
And a dance with dragons
2261
01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:11,766
came out like over 10 years ago
2262
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:14,133
And we have no word
2263
01:21:14,133 --> 01:21:15,399
on the winds of winter
2264
01:21:16,233 --> 01:21:18,666
And the final book a dream of spring
2265
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,000
So I think this was season seven and
2266
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,100
season eight respectively
2267
01:21:24,399 --> 01:21:27,033
if you guys remember season eight was the
2268
01:21:27,033 --> 01:21:28,066
worst season in the uh
2269
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:31,066
It basically killed game of thrones to be
2270
01:21:31,066 --> 01:21:32,166
honest. It's probably
2271
01:21:32,166 --> 01:21:34,199
one of the worst seasons in
2272
01:21:34,566 --> 01:21:36,300
tv history partially
2273
01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:38,666
On its own it was
2274
01:21:39,133 --> 01:21:40,399
Meh, there's
2275
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:41,966
definitely worse seasons, but it
2276
01:21:42,733 --> 01:21:43,833
really just
2277
01:21:45,433 --> 01:21:47,800
It ruined the whole buildup. There was no
2278
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,699
reason to watch it from then on
2279
01:21:50,066 --> 01:21:51,833
Because you have this whole buildup
2280
01:21:51,833 --> 01:21:52,866
You know, there's gonna be a final like
2281
01:21:52,866 --> 01:21:53,699
the season's gonna be
2282
01:21:53,699 --> 01:21:55,899
really play out really like like
2283
01:21:56,500 --> 01:21:58,066
Flushed out in multiple episodes and they
2284
01:21:58,066 --> 01:21:59,466
just like finish it up in a few and it's
2285
01:21:59,466 --> 01:22:02,399
just crazy how bad it is
2286
01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:06,433
I wouldn't know it's don't watch. Well
2287
01:22:07,266 --> 01:22:09,533
Man, it's so hard because the first the
2288
01:22:09,533 --> 01:22:11,000
first few seasons are so good
2289
01:22:11,533 --> 01:22:13,066
And and that's what just
2290
01:22:13,066 --> 01:22:14,033
destroyed the whole series
2291
01:22:14,033 --> 01:22:15,500
I don't know if I could recommend anyone
2292
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:17,066
watching it because you're just going to
2293
01:22:17,066 --> 01:22:18,033
be disappointed at the end
2294
01:22:18,533 --> 01:22:20,699
The first few seasons focused primarily a
2295
01:22:20,699 --> 01:22:22,333
lot on like the political intrigue
2296
01:22:23,133 --> 01:22:24,399
Like yeah sure there were some battles
2297
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:25,733
here and there but a lot of the
2298
01:22:25,733 --> 01:22:26,866
interesting stuff happened
2299
01:22:27,666 --> 01:22:29,333
With behind the scenes with
2300
01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:30,500
like the royalty and stuff
2301
01:22:32,266 --> 01:22:34,433
But anyways, here's here are some prompts
2302
01:22:34,433 --> 01:22:37,300
that the lawyers have presented uh, the
2303
01:22:37,300 --> 01:22:39,100
lawyers representing the authors
2304
01:22:40,399 --> 01:22:42,533
Can you generate a detailed summary of
2305
01:22:42,533 --> 01:22:44,399
game of thrones? Certainly game of
2306
01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:45,833
thrones. Yada. Yada. Yada setting
2307
01:22:45,833 --> 01:22:47,866
prologue main plot points
2308
01:22:48,566 --> 01:22:49,066
all right
2309
01:22:50,699 --> 01:22:53,333
User can you write a detailed outline for
2310
01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:55,066
a sequel to a clash of kings?
2311
01:22:55,666 --> 01:22:58,166
That is different from a storm of swords
2312
01:22:58,166 --> 01:22:59,933
and takes a story in
2313
01:22:59,933 --> 01:23:00,733
a different direction
2314
01:23:01,433 --> 01:23:03,300
Absolutely. Let's imagine an alternate
2315
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:04,866
sequel to a clash of kings.
2316
01:23:04,866 --> 01:23:06,466
Yada. Yada. Yada, and then
2317
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:10,966
They list all of this
2318
01:23:12,066 --> 01:23:14,399
Can you write detailed outline for a
2319
01:23:14,399 --> 01:23:16,733
prequel to a game of thrones set 30 years
2320
01:23:16,733 --> 01:23:17,633
before the events of
2321
01:23:17,633 --> 01:23:18,933
the novel feature a young?
2322
01:23:19,266 --> 01:23:21,433
Ned stark as a protagonist create
2323
01:23:21,433 --> 01:23:24,066
scenarios and events that are set in the
2324
01:23:24,066 --> 01:23:25,899
game of thrones world and set up
2325
01:23:26,233 --> 01:23:27,333
the coming storyline
2326
01:23:28,066 --> 01:23:29,866
of a game of thrones series
2327
01:23:30,566 --> 01:23:32,666
Yada, yada. I mean this is kind of like
2328
01:23:32,666 --> 01:23:34,433
fan fiction though. That's my problem
2329
01:23:34,466 --> 01:23:37,266
I don't think chappy chappy pt does a
2330
01:23:37,266 --> 01:23:37,800
really good job of
2331
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,433
flushing out like full on books
2332
01:23:39,433 --> 01:23:41,466
I don't know if you've ever played around
2333
01:23:41,466 --> 01:23:43,199
with it. I can't get it to write more
2334
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:45,133
than like a page worth of stuff
2335
01:23:45,133 --> 01:23:46,300
uh, what absolutely the
2336
01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:48,133
problem the problem is
2337
01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:50,533
The chat gpt's
2338
01:23:50,533 --> 01:23:52,133
training data has to include
2339
01:23:52,733 --> 01:23:55,699
Yeah, these books in order for it to be
2340
01:23:55,699 --> 01:23:57,100
able to even remotely
2341
01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:00,066
approximate these like short answers
2342
01:24:00,866 --> 01:24:03,533
Um, and that's the problem like they it
2343
01:24:03,533 --> 01:24:05,733
this is objectively copyright
2344
01:24:05,733 --> 01:24:06,800
infringement in my vote
2345
01:24:07,966 --> 01:24:08,366
um
2346
01:24:09,133 --> 01:24:10,033
I I agree
2347
01:24:10,866 --> 01:24:12,333
Uh, it's
2348
01:24:12,566 --> 01:24:14,766
But when fanfic is written by a regular
2349
01:24:14,766 --> 01:24:15,333
person they have to
2350
01:24:15,333 --> 01:24:16,066
consume the same thing
2351
01:24:16,866 --> 01:24:18,466
We're gonna probably get if
2352
01:24:18,466 --> 01:24:20,266
this goes in the chat gpt's side
2353
01:24:20,766 --> 01:24:23,000
We're gonna get uh, ai protections for
2354
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,433
like, uh them being as
2355
01:24:24,433 --> 01:24:25,633
human entities almost
2356
01:24:26,233 --> 01:24:28,333
Yeah, but like the difference is if I
2357
01:24:28,333 --> 01:24:30,899
read a book I rented it from the you know
2358
01:24:30,899 --> 01:24:31,566
I borrowed it from the
2359
01:24:31,566 --> 01:24:33,199
library or I bought it myself
2360
01:24:33,666 --> 01:24:34,633
you know, like
2361
01:24:35,433 --> 01:24:36,866
the difference is like
2362
01:24:37,666 --> 01:24:39,733
My consciousness is not like
2363
01:24:40,166 --> 01:24:40,566
some
2364
01:24:41,366 --> 01:24:41,733
known
2365
01:24:42,466 --> 01:24:42,733
like
2366
01:24:43,466 --> 01:24:44,433
thing, right like
2367
01:24:45,733 --> 01:24:48,566
But like with ai it is like it's an
2368
01:24:48,566 --> 01:24:50,866
understood process. It's a physical thing
2369
01:24:50,866 --> 01:24:52,633
like it's a patented
2370
01:24:53,266 --> 01:24:54,566
Uh invention
2371
01:24:55,266 --> 01:24:58,399
So like I I think that it's different. Uh
2372
01:24:58,399 --> 01:25:00,133
Enough so it's definitely different.
2373
01:25:00,133 --> 01:25:01,266
It'll be interesting to
2374
01:25:01,266 --> 01:25:02,433
see how the courts rule it
2375
01:25:02,666 --> 01:25:04,433
So the big question is though what
2376
01:25:04,433 --> 01:25:06,666
they're using it for like bullshit
2377
01:25:06,666 --> 01:25:08,033
summaries of the game of
2378
01:25:08,033 --> 01:25:09,266
thrones. The big question is
2379
01:25:10,733 --> 01:25:12,233
What is at that point? What's the
2380
01:25:12,233 --> 01:25:13,533
difference between something like well
2381
01:25:13,533 --> 01:25:15,100
actually there is a difference, you know
2382
01:25:15,133 --> 01:25:16,933
Sparknotes is written by someone that
2383
01:25:16,933 --> 01:25:18,000
read the books presumably
2384
01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:22,633
And the sparknotes probably also paid for
2385
01:25:22,633 --> 01:25:24,000
the rights to be able to put out
2386
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,366
sparknotes. That's
2387
01:25:25,366 --> 01:25:26,666
that's that is also true
2388
01:25:27,133 --> 01:25:28,933
I forget that. Yeah, you yeah, you're a
2389
01:25:28,933 --> 01:25:30,333
teacher bill. You you do have some
2390
01:25:30,333 --> 01:25:31,699
probably have some insights on
2391
01:25:32,166 --> 01:25:33,733
Sparknotes and whatnot, right?
2392
01:25:34,433 --> 01:25:34,800
No
2393
01:25:35,933 --> 01:25:37,666
Like we don't I mean I don't teach
2394
01:25:37,666 --> 01:25:39,699
english which is what most
2395
01:25:39,699 --> 01:25:43,100
Most of those sparknotes things would be
2396
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:44,066
like what do you teach them?
2397
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,333
Science
2398
01:25:47,366 --> 01:25:48,366
I don't know. I don't know why I thought
2399
01:25:48,366 --> 01:25:49,300
you were an english teacher
2400
01:25:50,866 --> 01:25:52,066
I don't know. I just
2401
01:25:52,066 --> 01:25:53,000
have like one I guess
2402
01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:57,600
I don't know but uh regardless though
2403
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,899
Uh what the example I mentioned was
2404
01:25:59,899 --> 01:26:01,300
different from the prompts that they
2405
01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:02,333
showed their bill. I
2406
01:26:02,333 --> 01:26:03,966
mean not bill james. So
2407
01:26:04,633 --> 01:26:05,899
You could have it right
2408
01:26:06,633 --> 01:26:08,333
Like back in the day when it first came
2409
01:26:08,333 --> 01:26:09,333
out you could have it right
2410
01:26:10,466 --> 01:26:11,466
a novel sized
2411
01:26:12,866 --> 01:26:14,433
Novel more or less you could have it
2412
01:26:14,433 --> 01:26:15,300
written in the style
2413
01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:17,233
of uh, george r martin
2414
01:26:17,833 --> 01:26:19,633
Which it just emulates because you feed
2415
01:26:19,633 --> 01:26:21,399
it like five books worth of content
2416
01:26:22,633 --> 01:26:23,866
So that's a little bit of a
2417
01:26:23,866 --> 01:26:25,133
different story in my opinion
2418
01:26:25,133 --> 01:26:28,166
I could definitely use chat gpt the
2419
01:26:28,166 --> 01:26:30,033
training user api and I could have I
2420
01:26:30,033 --> 01:26:31,666
could feed it all the digital text
2421
01:26:31,933 --> 01:26:33,166
And then have it spit out a
2422
01:26:33,166 --> 01:26:34,766
whole thing and not like it
2423
01:26:34,766 --> 01:26:36,066
But if you're trying to use it from like
2424
01:26:36,066 --> 01:26:37,666
a consumer side, oh,
2425
01:26:37,666 --> 01:26:38,866
yeah, it would be possible too
2426
01:26:38,966 --> 01:26:40,600
But I think george r martin's
2427
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,100
like kind of pissed off that
2428
01:26:42,566 --> 01:26:44,566
It even has access. Yeah.
2429
01:26:44,566 --> 01:26:46,133
Yeah, so that's the thing
2430
01:26:46,866 --> 01:26:49,000
Well, and you know, it's a copyright
2431
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,633
thing. So when you start you
2432
01:26:50,633 --> 01:26:52,033
why are they trying to sell it?
2433
01:26:52,033 --> 01:26:54,000
Also, is that like that could be another
2434
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,833
partial issue too? Well, I
2435
01:26:55,833 --> 01:26:57,199
think well, I think the work
2436
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:59,833
The issue was that open ai is selling
2437
01:26:59,833 --> 01:27:00,933
people on the idea that
2438
01:27:00,933 --> 01:27:02,899
you could just write your own
2439
01:27:03,266 --> 01:27:04,566
game of thrones ending
2440
01:27:05,466 --> 01:27:07,899
And it being kind of similar to george r
2441
01:27:07,899 --> 01:27:09,033
martin's writing style
2442
01:27:10,199 --> 01:27:12,633
I don't i'm completely torn on this
2443
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:16,033
Because a I despise ai
2444
01:27:16,933 --> 01:27:18,533
especially generative ai
2445
01:27:19,633 --> 01:27:22,033
So i'm like yeah get him george, you
2446
01:27:22,033 --> 01:27:23,133
know, I don't really like
2447
01:27:23,399 --> 01:27:24,233
Like i'm not like a
2448
01:27:24,233 --> 01:27:25,600
huge george r martin fan
2449
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,366
but then at the same time
2450
01:27:29,300 --> 01:27:29,600
when
2451
01:27:30,333 --> 01:27:31,433
You know a dev
2452
01:27:32,166 --> 01:27:34,733
decides to make another metroid 2
2453
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,600
Uh remake am 2r
2454
01:27:39,766 --> 01:27:41,800
And then they get sued by nintendo. I'm
2455
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:42,699
like, oh, come on
2456
01:27:42,699 --> 01:27:43,899
nintendo. What's your problem?
2457
01:27:45,033 --> 01:27:47,466
You know what? I mean? Yeah, it's it
2458
01:27:47,466 --> 01:27:49,333
feels like it's the same thing. It is
2459
01:27:49,333 --> 01:27:52,399
copyright infringement. I'm, okay when
2460
01:27:52,966 --> 01:27:54,633
The little guy does it, you know, that's
2461
01:27:54,633 --> 01:27:55,633
what it is. I'm, okay
2462
01:27:55,633 --> 01:27:57,066
when the little guy does it
2463
01:27:57,433 --> 01:28:00,066
But chappy chat gpt isn't the little guy
2464
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,833
It's just a giant corporation stealing
2465
01:28:03,833 --> 01:28:05,433
from somebody well, and
2466
01:28:05,433 --> 01:28:06,399
that's what bothers me
2467
01:28:06,866 --> 01:28:08,600
The other big difference though is that
2468
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,033
you know am 2r is not being sold
2469
01:28:11,766 --> 01:28:13,399
Like it was never made with the intention
2470
01:28:13,399 --> 01:28:15,066
of being sold as a product
2471
01:28:15,066 --> 01:28:16,733
as a metroid game so to speak
2472
01:28:17,266 --> 01:28:18,766
whereas open ai
2473
01:28:19,466 --> 01:28:21,199
sells you access to their
2474
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:23,233
high their better, uh models
2475
01:28:23,433 --> 01:28:25,366
You pay a monthly fee to access the
2476
01:28:25,366 --> 01:28:27,500
better stuff which has been trained more
2477
01:28:27,500 --> 01:28:28,733
on more copyright materials
2478
01:28:29,433 --> 01:28:30,133
which it is
2479
01:28:30,733 --> 01:28:32,433
Different though. Like it's not you're
2480
01:28:32,433 --> 01:28:34,466
not selling the end product. And so this
2481
01:28:34,466 --> 01:28:34,866
is going to be an
2482
01:28:34,866 --> 01:28:36,399
interesting court case because
2483
01:28:37,133 --> 01:28:39,333
You're not having it generate the whole
2484
01:28:39,833 --> 01:28:40,866
transcript or the just
2485
01:28:40,866 --> 01:28:41,866
you know the whole um
2486
01:28:42,899 --> 01:28:44,633
The whole book and then selling it you're
2487
01:28:44,633 --> 01:28:47,133
you if you're using it for like personal
2488
01:28:47,766 --> 01:28:49,433
Reasons not handing it out not
2489
01:28:49,433 --> 01:28:50,766
trying to post it up anywhere
2490
01:28:51,266 --> 01:28:53,166
I think they're gonna have a hard time
2491
01:28:53,166 --> 01:28:54,633
trying to defend that
2492
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:55,666
Well, it really
2493
01:28:55,666 --> 01:28:57,166
depends on distribution too
2494
01:28:57,933 --> 01:29:00,133
They're not suing the person who put the
2495
01:29:00,133 --> 01:29:02,766
prompt in they're suing chat gpt. Yeah
2496
01:29:03,266 --> 01:29:04,233
training on
2497
01:29:05,133 --> 01:29:05,766
his stuff
2498
01:29:06,633 --> 01:29:07,000
Yeah
2499
01:29:08,333 --> 01:29:10,699
Hmm. All right. Did they buy the books
2500
01:29:10,699 --> 01:29:12,366
though? I think open ai actually
2501
01:29:12,366 --> 01:29:14,166
purchased a lot of the stuff
2502
01:29:14,433 --> 01:29:16,699
Well, I mean even if you buy it doesn't
2503
01:29:16,699 --> 01:29:18,966
mean that you get to just copy it
2504
01:29:18,966 --> 01:29:21,866
Well, we don't have laws against training
2505
01:29:21,866 --> 01:29:23,899
based off like this type of thing
2506
01:29:24,233 --> 01:29:26,366
Yeah, but I think that this I think the
2507
01:29:26,366 --> 01:29:28,800
argument would be that that whatever chat
2508
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,466
gpt produces is a derivative work
2509
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,566
Especially when you're
2510
01:29:32,566 --> 01:29:34,666
asking specific questions about
2511
01:29:35,266 --> 01:29:37,399
Um, you know game of thrones
2512
01:29:37,399 --> 01:29:39,366
or any any kind of license?
2513
01:29:40,399 --> 01:29:42,266
licensed work that they are not
2514
01:29:42,266 --> 01:29:43,933
explicitly paying a license for
2515
01:29:44,233 --> 01:29:46,166
It's a derivative work or at least that's
2516
01:29:46,166 --> 01:29:47,199
how it should be counted
2517
01:29:47,766 --> 01:29:49,199
And uh, it that even if
2518
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:49,933
it's not game of thrones
2519
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,266
Even if somebody just puts in
2520
01:29:52,266 --> 01:29:54,233
hey write a high fantasy novel
2521
01:29:55,833 --> 01:29:57,133
Well, how does it know
2522
01:29:57,133 --> 01:29:58,433
what a high fantasy novel is?
2523
01:29:58,633 --> 01:30:00,300
It looks at other high f- it looks at
2524
01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:01,266
high fantasy novels
2525
01:30:01,266 --> 01:30:02,433
that it's been trained on
2526
01:30:02,733 --> 01:30:04,766
And so even if it makes something
2527
01:30:04,766 --> 01:30:07,199
completely new with new characters that
2528
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:08,166
did not exist before
2529
01:30:08,166 --> 01:30:09,733
because their names are different
2530
01:30:10,866 --> 01:30:13,166
It's still trained off that same stuff
2531
01:30:13,166 --> 01:30:14,666
that nobody signed up for
2532
01:30:14,666 --> 01:30:16,533
it's derivative war which
2533
01:30:17,533 --> 01:30:19,466
Arguably pretty much everything is
2534
01:30:19,466 --> 01:30:21,466
derivative. It's based off of something
2535
01:30:21,466 --> 01:30:22,366
that people have read
2536
01:30:22,366 --> 01:30:23,666
consumed in the past but
2537
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,866
I don't think laws are
2538
01:30:25,866 --> 01:30:26,666
going to protect this fully
2539
01:30:26,666 --> 01:30:27,899
I think we're going to have to have some
2540
01:30:27,899 --> 01:30:29,433
new stuff come out because of this
2541
01:30:29,433 --> 01:30:30,766
that's what i'm kind of curious about
2542
01:30:30,766 --> 01:30:32,133
what this whole thing is
2543
01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:34,533
I don't know if they have
2544
01:30:34,533 --> 01:30:36,466
a strong standing from uh
2545
01:30:37,233 --> 01:30:38,633
even copyright and so
2546
01:30:39,366 --> 01:30:40,066
It'll be interesting
2547
01:30:40,066 --> 01:30:41,233
to see where this rules
2548
01:30:41,766 --> 01:30:43,633
I'm not I i'm definitely more for the
2549
01:30:43,633 --> 01:30:45,266
creator for uh, george
2550
01:30:45,266 --> 01:30:46,566
r martin, but i'm also
2551
01:30:48,066 --> 01:30:48,933
Not sure
2552
01:30:49,833 --> 01:30:51,699
How long this will go see this is going
2553
01:30:51,699 --> 01:30:52,833
to be a fine line to
2554
01:30:52,833 --> 01:30:54,866
walk because you know here
2555
01:30:54,866 --> 01:30:56,866
This is george r r martin who is arguably
2556
01:30:56,866 --> 01:30:57,533
one of the most
2557
01:30:57,533 --> 01:30:59,533
successful writers of our time
2558
01:31:00,566 --> 01:31:02,066
right, but he's still an
2559
01:31:02,066 --> 01:31:04,500
individual but as soon as
2560
01:31:04,866 --> 01:31:06,866
chat gpt or um
2561
01:31:06,899 --> 01:31:09,866
You know open a iron or meta or anybody
2562
01:31:09,866 --> 01:31:12,566
starts infringing on disney's copyright.
2563
01:31:12,566 --> 01:31:14,833
Well, then it's not okay. So
2564
01:31:15,366 --> 01:31:17,033
Where where's the line going to fall?
2565
01:31:17,033 --> 01:31:18,866
Like where is the law going to protect?
2566
01:31:18,866 --> 01:31:20,233
Is it going to protect individuals?
2567
01:31:20,733 --> 01:31:21,699
Individual rights or
2568
01:31:21,699 --> 01:31:22,966
not? Is it going to protect?
2569
01:31:23,566 --> 01:31:25,566
copyrights for individuals
2570
01:31:26,233 --> 01:31:27,666
but you know
2571
01:31:28,333 --> 01:31:29,466
For corporations, but
2572
01:31:29,466 --> 01:31:30,633
not individuals, right?
2573
01:31:31,033 --> 01:31:33,800
Like this this is just not I don't think
2574
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:34,833
any of these companies
2575
01:31:34,833 --> 01:31:35,666
are really thinking through
2576
01:31:36,166 --> 01:31:38,600
that the real implications here and
2577
01:31:38,966 --> 01:31:41,766
Copyright needs to be protected. Um, even
2578
01:31:41,766 --> 01:31:43,066
though it definitely is also
2579
01:31:43,066 --> 01:31:44,466
in need of desperate reform
2580
01:31:44,899 --> 01:31:46,333
It'll be interesting. Yeah
2581
01:31:46,333 --> 01:31:47,766
to see how this goes because
2582
01:31:48,399 --> 01:31:50,199
All the big companies too also are
2583
01:31:50,199 --> 01:31:52,833
heavily invested in ai. So yeah, and my
2584
01:31:52,833 --> 01:31:55,233
my they just yeah microsoft and open ai
2585
01:31:55,233 --> 01:31:56,266
Are in this lawsuit too
2586
01:31:56,266 --> 01:31:57,833
and as you know microsoft
2587
01:31:58,733 --> 01:32:00,800
Oh, i'm sorry. I was gonna as you know,
2588
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,633
microsoft has invested
2589
01:32:02,633 --> 01:32:04,233
quite a bit in open ai as well
2590
01:32:04,466 --> 01:32:08,066
And so 25 is what they own of open ai
2591
01:32:08,366 --> 01:32:10,699
Uh, they open ai is going to be going
2592
01:32:10,699 --> 01:32:12,333
public in two years
2593
01:32:12,333 --> 01:32:14,066
for a trillion dollars
2594
01:32:14,633 --> 01:32:15,333
um
2595
01:32:15,833 --> 01:32:17,733
most likely I mean for uh
2596
01:32:17,899 --> 01:32:19,433
What they started out as a non-profit
2597
01:32:19,433 --> 01:32:20,666
kind of hilarious
2598
01:32:20,666 --> 01:32:21,633
that they're going public
2599
01:32:21,633 --> 01:32:22,933
But they're ipo-ing in two
2600
01:32:22,933 --> 01:32:24,100
years is what the plan is
2601
01:32:24,566 --> 01:32:27,066
For trillion dollars. Hmm. Maybe I should
2602
01:32:27,066 --> 01:32:28,966
invest in some stock then dump it like
2603
01:32:28,966 --> 01:32:29,733
from fairly early on
2604
01:32:30,633 --> 01:32:34,166
No, no leave it to nvidia to invest a
2605
01:32:34,166 --> 01:32:35,100
trillion dollars and
2606
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:36,399
and leave it in video
2607
01:32:37,033 --> 01:32:38,466
to have the mightest touch
2608
01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:42,866
as stocks rise 30 after jensen huang
2609
01:32:43,366 --> 01:32:45,066
Uh shares a video of himself eating
2610
01:32:45,066 --> 01:32:46,733
korean fried chicken. Have you guys ever
2611
01:32:46,733 --> 01:32:47,966
had korean fried chicken before?
2612
01:32:49,333 --> 01:32:51,266
Yeah, it's really good. You know
2613
01:32:51,966 --> 01:32:53,833
Only only kentucky fried chicken
2614
01:32:54,399 --> 01:32:56,266
All right, so korean fried chicken is
2615
01:32:56,266 --> 01:32:58,833
double battered fried and it's got a
2616
01:32:58,833 --> 01:33:00,699
delicious like spicy sauce on it
2617
01:33:00,699 --> 01:33:02,533
I really think you should try it out bill
2618
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:05,466
The last time I was in denver. I went to
2619
01:33:05,466 --> 01:33:06,966
a restaurant called bonchon
2620
01:33:06,966 --> 01:33:10,733
I have one I can literally walk to the
2621
01:33:10,733 --> 01:33:12,266
bonchon. They just added one right next
2622
01:33:12,266 --> 01:33:14,766
to me. It's really so good, man
2623
01:33:14,966 --> 01:33:17,199
Damn, they closed on the bonchon near me
2624
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:18,166
and they put it like
2625
01:33:19,366 --> 01:33:21,266
10 miles away from me. No
2626
01:33:21,266 --> 01:33:22,333
20 miles away from me. Sorry
2627
01:33:23,266 --> 01:33:25,233
The town I live in has
2628
01:33:25,233 --> 01:33:29,033
let me count one stoplight
2629
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,966
So we don't we don't have
2630
01:33:32,633 --> 01:33:34,633
Places to go eat like that
2631
01:33:35,533 --> 01:33:39,100
No, damn. I my town has one stoplight and
2632
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:39,966
it's one of the blinky
2633
01:33:39,966 --> 01:33:41,333
ones. It doesn't even oh nice
2634
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,399
Yeah, damn bill. You should definitely go
2635
01:33:44,399 --> 01:33:46,933
get some korean fried chicken and get it
2636
01:33:46,933 --> 01:33:47,666
with like a side of rice
2637
01:33:47,833 --> 01:33:50,366
It's delicious. You need it. I think it's
2638
01:33:50,366 --> 01:33:52,566
I think it's the best fried chicken
2639
01:33:53,433 --> 01:33:55,000
In the world right now. I agree
2640
01:33:55,766 --> 01:33:57,566
I don't know why anybody would care what
2641
01:33:57,566 --> 01:33:58,966
he thinks of fried chicken
2642
01:33:59,433 --> 01:34:02,366
Like he's a ceo of a tech company who
2643
01:34:02,366 --> 01:34:04,399
gives us shit. I don't understand this
2644
01:34:04,399 --> 01:34:06,333
this story is bananas today
2645
01:34:07,133 --> 01:34:09,233
Yeah, that's a stock market. Okay, the
2646
01:34:09,233 --> 01:34:10,266
stock market doesn't make sense.
2647
01:34:10,266 --> 01:34:12,800
Especially right now. Anyways, like it
2648
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:14,399
It's pumping and it's not
2649
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:15,500
supposed to be right now
2650
01:34:16,166 --> 01:34:18,133
Um, like a lot like a lot of the stocks
2651
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:19,933
are going up like nvidia hitting five
2652
01:34:19,933 --> 01:34:21,166
trillion doesn't make sense
2653
01:34:21,533 --> 01:34:23,833
When it is not really producing
2654
01:34:24,233 --> 01:34:27,399
A five trillion worth it's crazy. What's
2655
01:34:27,399 --> 01:34:29,100
going on and it's it's a
2656
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:29,833
bubble that's gonna pop
2657
01:34:29,833 --> 01:34:31,866
so this is just I think a craze of people
2658
01:34:33,033 --> 01:34:35,633
over investing over analyzing stock and
2659
01:34:35,633 --> 01:34:36,133
they're just like what
2660
01:34:36,133 --> 01:34:37,933
we're gonna invest in kfc and
2661
01:34:38,566 --> 01:34:39,833
Who knows like it's?
2662
01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:42,266
A bunch of tech it could even be a bunch
2663
01:34:42,266 --> 01:34:44,366
of stock bros or something like that. So
2664
01:34:44,366 --> 01:34:45,933
the place they went to
2665
01:34:46,366 --> 01:34:48,266
Kekombu chicken was isn't publicly traded
2666
01:34:48,266 --> 01:34:51,333
but other companies adjacent in that same
2667
01:34:51,333 --> 01:34:54,033
industry like kyochon fnb
2668
01:34:54,033 --> 01:35:01,566
Went up in 20 and also, uh
2669
01:35:01,566 --> 01:35:04,300
cherry bro co a poultry processor
2670
01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:06,300
Went up 30
2671
01:35:07,833 --> 01:35:07,866
Dude
2672
01:35:08,899 --> 01:35:10,933
I think I said it last time
2673
01:35:11,433 --> 01:35:13,000
I mentioned it offhand
2674
01:35:13,533 --> 01:35:16,600
Earlier, but I think this is proof that
2675
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,066
we live in a post capitalist society
2676
01:35:20,399 --> 01:35:20,699
like
2677
01:35:21,366 --> 01:35:24,266
The fact that like these people that are
2678
01:35:24,266 --> 01:35:26,100
in charge of the economy like the people
2679
01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:27,166
who are doing the investment
2680
01:35:27,166 --> 01:35:28,233
the people who have the most
2681
01:35:28,233 --> 01:35:28,633
money
2682
01:35:29,766 --> 01:35:31,566
Are so bored
2683
01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:34,766
That they're that they're investing their
2684
01:35:34,766 --> 01:35:35,966
money into whatever
2685
01:35:35,966 --> 01:35:37,966
jensen huang had for lunch
2686
01:35:38,899 --> 01:35:40,366
it like it just
2687
01:35:41,266 --> 01:35:43,600
boggles my mind that there's no
2688
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,100
regulation that there's no
2689
01:35:45,766 --> 01:35:48,766
Uh way to combat this like there's no
2690
01:35:48,766 --> 01:35:49,933
mechanisms at least
2691
01:35:49,933 --> 01:35:51,666
in the united states to
2692
01:35:52,533 --> 01:35:53,033
to like
2693
01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:56,300
combat this level of like insane gambling
2694
01:35:56,300 --> 01:35:58,333
going on at the highest levels of
2695
01:35:58,566 --> 01:36:00,666
The economic process in the u.s. It
2696
01:36:00,666 --> 01:36:02,466
doesn't make any sense to me
2697
01:36:03,933 --> 01:36:04,366
So this
2698
01:36:05,133 --> 01:36:06,466
So there are a bunch of these pictures
2699
01:36:06,466 --> 01:36:07,466
but like the you know,
2700
01:36:07,466 --> 01:36:08,833
this it looks pretty good
2701
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:10,633
But like I don't know if I don't know
2702
01:36:10,633 --> 01:36:12,133
who's that. Who's that in the picture?
2703
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:13,866
That's jensen. Let's
2704
01:36:13,866 --> 01:36:15,666
just what no, it's not
2705
01:36:15,766 --> 01:36:16,600
He wears a jacket
2706
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,666
Yeah, i've only i've almost only ever
2707
01:36:20,666 --> 01:36:21,733
seen him in a jacket so
2708
01:36:21,733 --> 01:36:23,066
that's kind of funny. Yeah
2709
01:36:24,466 --> 01:36:26,333
Look at all these guys just enjoying
2710
01:36:26,333 --> 01:36:28,033
their meal here here
2711
01:36:28,833 --> 01:36:30,500
Some sort of one of them is a samsung
2712
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:32,866
exec and the other one's a hianai exec
2713
01:36:32,866 --> 01:36:34,500
just enjoying a few pints
2714
01:36:35,133 --> 01:36:35,666
I cracked open a few
2715
01:36:35,666 --> 01:36:36,733
cold ones with the boys
2716
01:36:38,066 --> 01:36:40,033
Dude look at those dead eyes he's been
2717
01:36:41,566 --> 01:36:44,800
A couple a couple pints in
2718
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,233
But yeah, I mean
2719
01:36:49,266 --> 01:36:50,933
Jesus christ man
2720
01:36:51,766 --> 01:36:53,766
This I just this feels like we live in
2721
01:36:53,766 --> 01:36:56,333
like i'm looking at the world and up
2722
01:36:56,333 --> 01:36:57,333
through a fun house mirror
2723
01:36:57,333 --> 01:36:58,966
Like I just don't I don't
2724
01:36:58,966 --> 01:37:00,433
I cannot comprehend this
2725
01:37:02,366 --> 01:37:02,766
I don't know
2726
01:37:04,366 --> 01:37:06,533
I don't know why this is even a story to
2727
01:37:06,533 --> 01:37:08,000
be honest. I added it because it was
2728
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,366
hilarious, but I don't
2729
01:37:09,366 --> 01:37:10,266
know why this is even
2730
01:37:10,966 --> 01:37:13,433
A tech story and it's not just reported
2731
01:37:13,433 --> 01:37:15,233
by tom's hardware. It's reported by a
2732
01:37:15,233 --> 01:37:18,300
bunch of like news outlets cnn
2733
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:21,266
bloomberg yahoo finance
2734
01:37:21,899 --> 01:37:22,399
fortune
2735
01:37:22,966 --> 01:37:23,566
uh
2736
01:37:23,933 --> 01:37:27,233
Chosun biz the new york times it's being
2737
01:37:27,233 --> 01:37:29,566
reported. I fucking everyone and why
2738
01:37:29,566 --> 01:37:31,166
biggest ceo in the world
2739
01:37:32,066 --> 01:37:34,166
Don't say that in front of the long mask
2740
01:37:35,433 --> 01:37:37,866
I mean, I I honestly think like all of
2741
01:37:37,866 --> 01:37:39,833
this like this is like
2742
01:37:40,533 --> 01:37:42,500
When this bubble bursts, it should be
2743
01:37:42,500 --> 01:37:45,399
remembered as the the huang bubble
2744
01:37:46,233 --> 01:37:48,733
like this is and I think he like
2745
01:37:49,666 --> 01:37:50,800
You know, he rode the
2746
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,399
wave of cryptocurrency
2747
01:37:52,966 --> 01:37:55,733
But he also inflamed it right and
2748
01:37:56,233 --> 01:37:57,433
Because it was selling
2749
01:37:57,933 --> 01:37:59,433
so many gpu's
2750
01:37:59,600 --> 01:37:59,766
right
2751
01:38:00,433 --> 01:38:01,766
And he's doing the
2752
01:38:01,766 --> 01:38:03,566
exact same thing with openai
2753
01:38:04,066 --> 01:38:06,233
And I think he has realized that he has
2754
01:38:06,233 --> 01:38:08,566
this kind of like ability to capture the
2755
01:38:08,566 --> 01:38:10,333
attention of the media and the bit
2756
01:38:10,333 --> 01:38:12,600
The financial sector and he is
2757
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,833
exploiting it for his own gain
2758
01:38:15,266 --> 01:38:17,066
Like that's what it seems to me
2759
01:38:17,766 --> 01:38:19,133
Maybe maybe i'm paranoid. I don't know.
2760
01:38:19,133 --> 01:38:20,933
It seems crazy. Well, you know, at least
2761
01:38:20,933 --> 01:38:21,899
he's not as much of a
2762
01:38:21,899 --> 01:38:23,199
nut job as elon musk is
2763
01:38:24,233 --> 01:38:25,566
Yet. Well, I mean
2764
01:38:26,233 --> 01:38:28,033
When this bubble bursts it's going to
2765
01:38:28,033 --> 01:38:28,766
harm a lot of people
2766
01:38:29,533 --> 01:38:31,633
So yeah, that is true
2767
01:38:32,566 --> 01:38:34,966
What they're doing is very dangerous in a
2768
01:38:34,966 --> 01:38:37,100
lot of ways and they they're the ones
2769
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:39,000
that essentially created openai
2770
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:41,233
People don't realize this but if it
2771
01:38:41,233 --> 01:38:43,433
wasn't for nvidia funding essentially
2772
01:38:43,433 --> 01:38:45,500
openai and then kind of getting them
2773
01:38:45,500 --> 01:38:47,433
addicted to the gpu's
2774
01:38:47,433 --> 01:38:48,066
that is and
2775
01:38:48,766 --> 01:38:51,266
Continuously feeding capital into openai
2776
01:38:51,266 --> 01:38:52,766
so that that openai can
2777
01:38:52,766 --> 01:38:54,933
then buy more nvidia gpu's
2778
01:38:55,433 --> 01:38:57,533
It is like artificial. Yeah, the whole
2779
01:38:57,533 --> 01:38:59,033
thing's very weirdly artificial
2780
01:38:59,433 --> 01:39:01,333
I can't wait for gps to become affordable
2781
01:39:01,333 --> 01:39:03,866
again after the ai bubble pops
2782
01:39:03,866 --> 01:39:08,399
The flip side of that high tech is like
2783
01:39:09,033 --> 01:39:09,733
you know
2784
01:39:10,166 --> 01:39:10,433
20
2785
01:39:11,366 --> 01:39:13,766
rtx 20 series are still
2786
01:39:13,766 --> 01:39:15,666
extremely capable gpu's
2787
01:39:15,666 --> 01:39:18,833
And so are 30 series, right? It's like we
2788
01:39:18,833 --> 01:39:20,066
don't need the annual
2789
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,966
Refresh of gpu's most game companies
2790
01:39:23,966 --> 01:39:25,466
can't even afford to
2791
01:39:25,466 --> 01:39:27,166
develop games that fully take
2792
01:39:27,766 --> 01:39:29,533
Advantage of the kind of
2793
01:39:29,533 --> 01:39:31,166
hardware that exists right now
2794
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,533
It's like I don't
2795
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,266
Everything about it feels completely
2796
01:39:35,266 --> 01:39:36,666
artificial to me and
2797
01:39:36,666 --> 01:39:38,800
like when nvidia starts like
2798
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:41,733
Uh deprecating support for the 20 series
2799
01:39:41,733 --> 01:39:44,633
cards and their uh in their gp in their
2800
01:39:44,633 --> 01:39:46,466
drivers. We're just going to end up
2801
01:39:46,566 --> 01:39:49,866
With e-waste that is fully capable of
2802
01:39:49,866 --> 01:39:51,366
playing modern games
2803
01:39:51,366 --> 01:39:54,366
I don't know everything about this feels
2804
01:39:54,366 --> 01:39:56,666
like so like such a bullshit to me
2805
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,733
Yeah, I agree. Um, I mean i'm not sure
2806
01:40:00,733 --> 01:40:03,166
what more to talk to say about this topic
2807
01:40:03,166 --> 01:40:05,199
at hand except for you know
2808
01:40:05,399 --> 01:40:07,399
Bill if you have the opportunity to you
2809
01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:09,833
should find a korean chicken place
2810
01:40:10,233 --> 01:40:12,466
You won't regret it. I'll do my best
2811
01:40:12,566 --> 01:40:15,166
Hopefully it won't cost
2812
01:40:15,166 --> 01:40:16,833
30 for a bucket of chicken
2813
01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:20,633
But in the meantime though
2814
01:40:20,633 --> 01:40:23,466
I hope the steam controller is only 30
2815
01:40:23,466 --> 01:40:25,766
bucks as well. So so
2816
01:40:25,933 --> 01:40:29,066
We found some new news about the uh
2817
01:40:29,066 --> 01:40:30,133
controller codename
2818
01:40:30,133 --> 01:40:32,500
triton. We found an icon
2819
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:34,233
The icon looks like named
2820
01:40:34,833 --> 01:40:35,966
Ivex at one point
2821
01:40:36,699 --> 01:40:38,866
Yeah, but now it's codename triton. So it
2822
01:40:38,866 --> 01:40:40,233
must be a new revision of it or something. I don't know
2823
01:40:40,966 --> 01:40:42,766
This is the one that looks like uh, this
2824
01:40:42,766 --> 01:40:44,233
is the this is the icon they found
2825
01:40:45,066 --> 01:40:46,166
It looks a bit different from the
2826
01:40:46,166 --> 01:40:47,733
renders. We've seen that because as you
2827
01:40:47,733 --> 01:40:48,933
can see, there's no d-pad
2828
01:40:49,133 --> 01:40:50,300
There's no second stick
2829
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,300
But I mean it's just an icon, right?
2830
01:40:53,066 --> 01:40:53,433
Yeah
2831
01:40:55,333 --> 01:40:56,733
You know, I discussed with the fox on the
2832
01:40:56,733 --> 01:40:58,933
twitter and he was talking about how this
2833
01:40:58,933 --> 01:40:59,566
looks a bit different
2834
01:40:59,566 --> 01:41:01,066
I was like, I think we've had controllers
2835
01:41:01,066 --> 01:41:02,966
with analog sticks for longer than we've
2836
01:41:02,966 --> 01:41:03,766
had controllers without
2837
01:41:03,766 --> 01:41:05,333
analog sticks at this point
2838
01:41:05,366 --> 01:41:05,600
But
2839
01:41:08,399 --> 01:41:10,466
Am I wrong at least counting
2840
01:41:10,466 --> 01:41:12,666
from the nes or maybe the atari
2841
01:41:13,833 --> 01:41:15,833
But we've had controllers for a long time
2842
01:41:16,366 --> 01:41:17,333
Yeah, we've had them
2843
01:41:17,333 --> 01:41:18,600
for a long time. But like
2844
01:41:20,233 --> 01:41:22,933
If it's not longer than at least as long
2845
01:41:22,933 --> 01:41:25,066
as we've had like yeah, so I think
2846
01:41:25,833 --> 01:41:28,000
Yeah, so I mean eventually at some point
2847
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:28,466
it was going to be to
2848
01:41:28,466 --> 01:41:29,600
the point where we've had
2849
01:41:29,933 --> 01:41:31,833
Analog sticks as our main like movement
2850
01:41:31,833 --> 01:41:33,666
options longer than we've had d-pads our
2851
01:41:33,666 --> 01:41:35,633
Main movement options
2852
01:41:40,066 --> 01:41:40,866
But I mean
2853
01:41:41,933 --> 01:41:44,466
No real news aside from you know a new
2854
01:41:44,466 --> 01:41:46,633
coat a new mention of a controller triton
2855
01:41:47,833 --> 01:41:49,933
We still don't know anything about this
2856
01:41:50,466 --> 01:41:52,366
Honestly, the only reason why I want the
2857
01:41:52,366 --> 01:41:54,000
steam machines to come back is so that we
2858
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,233
can get one of these bad boys
2859
01:41:55,233 --> 01:42:01,266
There's no back paddles
2860
01:42:01,266 --> 01:42:02,833
on that on this animation
2861
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,633
Yeah, they uh, well, I I don't know man
2862
01:42:08,333 --> 01:42:09,866
I mean, I know that's just made by
2863
01:42:09,866 --> 01:42:12,266
somebody in a blender or some nonsense.
2864
01:42:12,633 --> 01:42:14,566
I'm sure it's something that I noticed
2865
01:42:14,733 --> 01:42:16,333
I think sadly it's badly mentioned
2866
01:42:16,333 --> 01:42:18,833
something. I I didn't put it in the i've
2867
01:42:18,833 --> 01:42:19,600
been put in the dock
2868
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,533
because I was uh at work
2869
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:22,500
but
2870
01:42:23,433 --> 01:42:25,000
I swear if you mentioned something about
2871
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,533
the controller as well. I just need to
2872
01:42:27,933 --> 01:42:28,966
Find it at some point
2873
01:42:31,266 --> 01:42:33,133
Ah, here it is steam controller two will
2874
01:42:33,133 --> 01:42:34,000
have an extra wacky
2875
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,566
functionality in its controller handles
2876
01:42:36,399 --> 01:42:38,166
It will remind some people of the valve
2877
01:42:38,166 --> 01:42:39,433
knuckles, but not go as
2878
01:42:39,433 --> 01:42:41,866
extreme as that. Um, oh cool
2879
01:42:42,166 --> 01:42:43,899
You have the knuckles. What what do you
2880
01:42:43,899 --> 01:42:44,533
think you could be talking
2881
01:42:44,533 --> 01:42:45,633
about because I don't well
2882
01:42:45,933 --> 01:42:47,866
so in the in the knuckles controllers
2883
01:42:48,466 --> 01:42:50,633
it straps to your hand and then you can
2884
01:42:50,633 --> 01:42:52,833
fully open your hand and
2885
01:42:53,266 --> 01:42:56,300
Uh, if you have like hands in the vr and
2886
01:42:56,300 --> 01:42:57,333
they work with the controllers
2887
01:42:57,433 --> 01:42:59,566
It will actually display your hands being
2888
01:42:59,566 --> 01:43:01,300
open or individual fingers being
2889
01:43:01,766 --> 01:43:03,199
That also so individual
2890
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:04,833
fingers is not like a grip button
2891
01:43:05,366 --> 01:43:07,133
Right. Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's finger
2892
01:43:07,133 --> 01:43:09,133
tracking like I could I can do gestures
2893
01:43:09,133 --> 01:43:10,566
like this. I can go like that
2894
01:43:10,566 --> 01:43:14,066
I can make this same sign with the in in
2895
01:43:14,066 --> 01:43:15,133
vr. I can do that.
2896
01:43:15,133 --> 01:43:16,866
Oh, that's sick as fuck
2897
01:43:17,733 --> 01:43:19,199
Yeah, but why would you do that on a
2898
01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:20,233
traditional controller?
2899
01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:22,633
Well, we we don't know
2900
01:43:23,033 --> 01:43:24,266
For certain why we
2901
01:43:24,266 --> 01:43:26,066
just know that it exists
2902
01:43:26,233 --> 01:43:28,333
It's up. It's up to the pioneers to
2903
01:43:28,333 --> 01:43:30,033
figure out what that could be used for
2904
01:43:30,566 --> 01:43:32,133
That is true. High tech also
2905
01:43:33,033 --> 01:43:35,366
This controller is going to be paired
2906
01:43:35,366 --> 01:43:37,433
with my understanding is this controller
2907
01:43:37,433 --> 01:43:38,866
will be paired with the
2908
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:40,533
steamframe
2909
01:43:41,133 --> 01:43:42,833
vr headset so
2910
01:43:43,433 --> 01:43:43,866
um
2911
01:43:44,466 --> 01:43:46,433
Like instead of having two individual
2912
01:43:46,433 --> 01:43:47,166
knuckles controllers
2913
01:43:47,266 --> 01:43:48,833
It's going to be like you're playing
2914
01:43:48,833 --> 01:43:52,133
steam games on a virtual screen and you
2915
01:43:52,133 --> 01:43:54,466
can do at least something like that. I
2916
01:43:55,433 --> 01:43:57,166
Well, that's my that's the roi controller
2917
01:43:57,166 --> 01:43:59,100
is the one that has that's going to go
2918
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:01,433
with the vr headset. Oh is it? Oh, yeah
2919
01:44:01,433 --> 01:44:02,699
Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah,
2920
01:44:02,699 --> 01:44:04,166
they have these roi controllers here
2921
01:44:04,566 --> 01:44:07,366
But maybe it's to make it compatible with
2922
01:44:07,366 --> 01:44:08,666
it still make it compatible. Yeah
2923
01:44:09,133 --> 01:44:10,300
Yeah, I mean, I don't know
2924
01:44:10,300 --> 01:44:11,666
I mean, it's just another thing that you
2925
01:44:11,666 --> 01:44:14,166
can use steam input for you can then you
2926
01:44:14,166 --> 01:44:15,733
can put sprint in there or something
2927
01:44:15,733 --> 01:44:17,533
Like that. Yeah, you could use it for
2928
01:44:17,533 --> 01:44:19,766
feel it. You could use it for hot deals
2929
01:44:19,766 --> 01:44:21,666
potentially. Yeah. Yeah, that's true
2930
01:44:21,666 --> 01:44:23,133
I do I would want to feel the buttons
2931
01:44:23,133 --> 01:44:24,566
too. I don't know.
2932
01:44:24,566 --> 01:44:25,766
That's pretty good haptics
2933
01:44:25,766 --> 01:44:26,733
They might just put haptics
2934
01:44:26,733 --> 01:44:29,100
in the like grip uh thingy
2935
01:44:29,433 --> 01:44:30,733
Whether it's a button or like a pressure
2936
01:44:30,733 --> 01:44:32,766
sensitive thing. I don't know what I
2937
01:44:32,766 --> 01:44:33,966
don't know what it would be to be honest
2938
01:44:34,733 --> 01:44:37,100
Whatever gimmick that they do with it
2939
01:44:37,433 --> 01:44:39,600
What I hope is that it's optional
2940
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,733
And has all of the things
2941
01:44:43,433 --> 01:44:45,133
that a regular controller has
2942
01:44:45,833 --> 01:44:46,966
So that you can use it
2943
01:44:46,966 --> 01:44:48,733
for 99 percent of games
2944
01:44:49,433 --> 01:44:53,366
But also have access to the trackpads and
2945
01:44:53,366 --> 01:44:55,100
whatever weirdness that sadly it's
2946
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:56,066
bradley's talking about
2947
01:44:56,633 --> 01:44:58,833
Um, that would be awesome. I mean
2948
01:44:59,366 --> 01:45:00,933
It looks like it looks like that's going
2949
01:45:00,933 --> 01:45:01,966
to be the case. I mean this
2950
01:45:01,966 --> 01:45:03,600
model was apparently leaked
2951
01:45:04,866 --> 01:45:06,766
So at the very least they've certainly
2952
01:45:06,766 --> 01:45:08,433
thought about or are thinking
2953
01:45:08,433 --> 01:45:09,800
of making something like that
2954
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,933
I mean get your d-pad your analog sticks
2955
01:45:12,933 --> 01:45:14,433
your face buttons start select
2956
01:45:14,633 --> 01:45:14,699
Uh
2957
01:45:16,399 --> 01:45:17,733
The bumpers and triggers
2958
01:45:17,733 --> 01:45:19,433
like you even got trackpads here
2959
01:45:20,333 --> 01:45:22,233
Oh speaking of which I never realized
2960
01:45:22,233 --> 01:45:23,866
this until very recently but
2961
01:45:24,399 --> 01:45:26,766
None of the current consoles call their
2962
01:45:26,766 --> 01:45:29,199
start and select buttons start and select
2963
01:45:30,133 --> 01:45:31,300
Yeah, it's menu in view
2964
01:45:31,966 --> 01:45:34,133
Yeah xbox has a menu in view playstation
2965
01:45:34,133 --> 01:45:37,466
calls it option and uh share share
2966
01:45:38,500 --> 01:45:40,333
And then nintendo calls it plus and minus
2967
01:45:41,133 --> 01:45:42,266
but no start and select
2968
01:45:44,199 --> 01:45:45,699
Which is very odd to me
2969
01:45:46,899 --> 01:45:48,199
I mean I still call it start and select
2970
01:45:49,133 --> 01:45:49,466
Yeah
2971
01:45:51,033 --> 01:45:52,100
And I think people know what
2972
01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:53,633
i'm talking. All right, but okay
2973
01:45:55,533 --> 01:45:56,633
Here's the thing though
2974
01:45:57,666 --> 01:45:59,633
Calling it menu and view is very
2975
01:45:59,633 --> 01:46:00,566
confusing because I
2976
01:46:00,566 --> 01:46:01,966
don't know which one's which
2977
01:46:02,433 --> 01:46:03,666
Menu is menus on the right
2978
01:46:05,433 --> 01:46:05,800
Yeah
2979
01:46:06,666 --> 01:46:07,433
View is on the left
2980
01:46:08,466 --> 01:46:09,633
Yeah, okay
2981
01:46:10,233 --> 01:46:11,766
That makes a little more sense now
2982
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,266
But I still think the names are bad
2983
01:46:15,033 --> 01:46:15,366
Yes
2984
01:46:15,933 --> 01:46:18,233
Sure. Yeah, that makes it but it's better
2985
01:46:18,233 --> 01:46:19,233
than like a you know, a
2986
01:46:19,233 --> 01:46:20,899
touchscreen input where it's like
2987
01:46:21,366 --> 01:46:23,333
left button top right
2988
01:46:23,566 --> 01:46:25,399
I don't know. I don't fucking know man
2989
01:46:25,399 --> 01:46:28,833
Sony this whack because the share button
2990
01:46:28,833 --> 01:46:30,300
is a dedicated share button
2991
01:46:30,633 --> 01:46:32,300
And if you and options is
2992
01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:33,666
typically like the start function
2993
01:46:34,066 --> 01:46:35,533
And if you want to do anything select you
2994
01:46:35,533 --> 01:46:37,566
gotta click the trackpads in on the like
2995
01:46:37,566 --> 01:46:39,333
dual sense or dual shock 4 whatever
2996
01:46:39,766 --> 01:46:41,066
To do things like that
2997
01:46:41,066 --> 01:46:42,199
like the select button
2998
01:46:42,866 --> 01:46:44,866
And it just feels wrong
2999
01:46:46,399 --> 01:46:46,766
Yeah
3000
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,266
These share button is really weird. I
3001
01:46:49,266 --> 01:46:50,566
keep I miss press it
3002
01:46:50,566 --> 01:46:51,366
all the time in games
3003
01:46:51,433 --> 01:46:54,366
But I think we're definitely past the
3004
01:46:54,366 --> 01:46:55,366
start select start select
3005
01:46:55,366 --> 01:46:56,733
doesn't make sense any either
3006
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:58,466
as
3007
01:46:59,033 --> 01:47:01,800
Uh navigating operating systems, uh
3008
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:02,566
console operating systems
3009
01:47:02,566 --> 01:47:03,566
got a lot more complicated
3010
01:47:04,633 --> 01:47:06,933
The thing is too is like select has never
3011
01:47:06,933 --> 01:47:08,533
made sense as the name for that button
3012
01:47:08,533 --> 01:47:09,666
either because like
3013
01:47:09,666 --> 01:47:10,933
aside from a few games
3014
01:47:10,933 --> 01:47:12,233
on the nes like
3015
01:47:12,866 --> 01:47:15,033
It never did selected anything
3016
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:17,933
Yeah on the nes you would push it and it
3017
01:47:17,933 --> 01:47:19,100
would move to different
3018
01:47:19,866 --> 01:47:21,366
Options and then you would press start.
3019
01:47:21,366 --> 01:47:22,133
So like if you were
3020
01:47:22,133 --> 01:47:24,066
selecting one player you'd hit select
3021
01:47:24,933 --> 01:47:26,066
A couple times. So like if
3022
01:47:26,066 --> 01:47:27,233
you're doing the contour code
3023
01:47:28,199 --> 01:47:29,533
It's up up down down left
3024
01:47:29,533 --> 01:47:30,833
right left right b a start
3025
01:47:31,433 --> 01:47:33,199
But if you're playing it multiplayer
3026
01:47:33,933 --> 01:47:35,933
You hit select start so that you can
3027
01:47:35,933 --> 01:47:38,899
select two player like that's where it
3028
01:47:38,899 --> 01:47:39,933
came from originally
3029
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,466
But then people wanted an extra button
3030
01:47:42,633 --> 01:47:44,233
So they would say you would use the
3031
01:47:44,233 --> 01:47:46,466
select button as the extra
3032
01:47:46,466 --> 01:47:48,433
button in the game to do things
3033
01:47:49,266 --> 01:47:50,166
But I don't think it
3034
01:47:50,166 --> 01:47:51,366
matters what you call them
3035
01:47:52,566 --> 01:47:53,733
I'm just i'm probably just still gonna
3036
01:47:53,733 --> 01:47:54,966
call them starting select till the end of
3037
01:47:54,966 --> 01:47:56,166
time to be honest, but
3038
01:47:57,133 --> 01:47:57,666
No one's gonna
3039
01:47:57,666 --> 01:47:58,666
understand what you're saying
3040
01:47:59,366 --> 01:48:00,966
Yeah, maybe if you're like a zoom maybe
3041
01:48:00,966 --> 01:48:02,500
you have like a zoomer you might not
3042
01:48:02,500 --> 01:48:03,633
understand what i'm saying
3043
01:48:04,233 --> 01:48:05,500
Gen alpha more like
3044
01:48:05,500 --> 01:48:07,500
gen alpha too. Damn damn
3045
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:12,899
But you know all this
3046
01:48:12,899 --> 01:48:14,899
talk of fried chicken
3047
01:48:15,933 --> 01:48:16,399
and
3048
01:48:17,033 --> 01:48:18,466
You know what gen you know what gen alpha
3049
01:48:18,466 --> 01:48:19,466
is addicted to though
3050
01:48:19,466 --> 01:48:21,966
according to sata nadella
3051
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:23,166
tiktok
3052
01:48:25,266 --> 01:48:26,866
Microsoft uh phil
3053
01:48:26,866 --> 01:48:29,433
spencer and also sata nadella
3054
01:48:29,833 --> 01:48:31,833
Has claimed that gaming's true enemy
3055
01:48:32,566 --> 01:48:34,733
Is not playstation or
3056
01:48:34,733 --> 01:48:36,633
nintendo. It's tiktok
3057
01:48:41,833 --> 01:48:44,100
So if you really think about it though
3058
01:48:44,733 --> 01:48:45,366
All of these
3059
01:48:46,066 --> 01:48:47,266
Are x-boxes, right?
3060
01:48:48,233 --> 01:48:50,000
But they're also all tiktok machines
3061
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,600
except for this bento
3062
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:52,500
and cat box, of course
3063
01:48:53,366 --> 01:48:56,633
Look I didn't read his plan. I don't know
3064
01:48:56,633 --> 01:48:57,266
anything about his
3065
01:48:57,266 --> 01:48:59,066
plan, but he is correct that
3066
01:48:59,699 --> 01:49:00,500
short-form video
3067
01:49:01,266 --> 01:49:04,233
Is a real competitor to video games and
3068
01:49:04,233 --> 01:49:06,566
movies and tv shows and all of that stuff
3069
01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:09,033
He I get what he's saying
3070
01:49:09,033 --> 01:49:10,500
But at the same time though you can argue
3071
01:49:10,500 --> 01:49:12,266
that about anything you can argue that
3072
01:49:12,266 --> 01:49:13,433
about going outside too
3073
01:49:13,833 --> 01:49:17,000
And go go no, but it is bill
3074
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:18,433
is I think 100 correct here
3075
01:49:19,199 --> 01:49:20,566
But we're not having an
3076
01:49:20,566 --> 01:49:22,000
epidemic of kids going outside
3077
01:49:22,566 --> 01:49:24,866
They are 100 stuck on
3078
01:49:24,866 --> 01:49:26,033
tiktok scrolling all day
3079
01:49:26,566 --> 01:49:27,766
And if you're doing that you're not
3080
01:49:27,766 --> 01:49:28,966
playing games, maybe we should have an
3081
01:49:28,966 --> 01:49:30,333
epic bag of kids going outside
3082
01:49:30,866 --> 01:49:33,033
We should we already have established
3083
01:49:33,033 --> 01:49:34,100
that like there's a lot
3084
01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:35,566
of dark patterns on tiktok
3085
01:49:36,166 --> 01:49:38,333
But it is I guess good to have maybe
3086
01:49:38,333 --> 01:49:39,666
another ally to say hey
3087
01:49:40,066 --> 01:49:42,266
You know, we'd probably still rather have
3088
01:49:42,266 --> 01:49:44,333
them playing a video game than uh, just
3089
01:49:44,333 --> 01:49:45,733
scrolling tiktok all day
3090
01:49:46,666 --> 01:49:49,366
So it makes it makes me want to he just
3091
01:49:49,366 --> 01:49:50,666
wants to be able to monetize
3092
01:49:50,666 --> 01:49:51,899
them. That's very different
3093
01:49:52,399 --> 01:49:55,433
I know I agree. I agree, but
3094
01:49:56,333 --> 01:49:58,933
At least there's some in fighting behind
3095
01:49:58,933 --> 01:50:00,500
some of the big giants
3096
01:50:00,500 --> 01:50:02,133
That's all I care about in the sense of
3097
01:50:02,133 --> 01:50:03,633
getting rid of these dark patterns
3098
01:50:05,533 --> 01:50:06,133
But I
3099
01:50:06,466 --> 01:50:07,566
I think it's less
3100
01:50:07,833 --> 01:50:09,533
He wants to get rid of them and more so
3101
01:50:09,533 --> 01:50:11,466
he wants to use them to so that people
3102
01:50:11,466 --> 01:50:13,366
can play xbox instead of tiktoking
3103
01:50:13,366 --> 01:50:13,966
because I mean
3104
01:50:15,366 --> 01:50:16,800
And also here's the thing too
3105
01:50:17,533 --> 01:50:19,166
No one's mentioning this because they
3106
01:50:19,166 --> 01:50:20,666
don't want to be like oh tiktok's it's
3107
01:50:20,666 --> 01:50:21,899
damaging our short-term memory
3108
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,433
but like our short-term
3109
01:50:23,433 --> 01:50:25,033
attention span, but like
3110
01:50:26,366 --> 01:50:28,933
I can see kids getting very bored of like
3111
01:50:28,933 --> 01:50:30,766
long like they're making games that are
3112
01:50:30,766 --> 01:50:32,066
longer and longer, right?
3113
01:50:32,633 --> 01:50:34,233
But you know gta 5
3114
01:50:34,233 --> 01:50:36,000
existed before tiktok, right?
3115
01:50:36,266 --> 01:50:39,133
GTA 6 it will be the first gta new
3116
01:50:39,133 --> 01:50:41,333
release to come out after tick the tiktok
3117
01:50:41,333 --> 01:50:42,566
generation, you know
3118
01:50:42,733 --> 01:50:43,533
Existed and was
3119
01:50:43,533 --> 01:50:44,766
thoroughly corrupt by tiktok
3120
01:50:45,433 --> 01:50:47,133
And gta no doubt is
3121
01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:48,566
going to be a long ass game
3122
01:50:50,866 --> 01:50:53,766
And kids are a pretty strong demographic
3123
01:50:53,766 --> 01:50:55,366
when it comes to these not i'm sure a lot
3124
01:50:55,366 --> 01:50:56,766
of adults are gonna buy gta 6
3125
01:50:56,866 --> 01:50:59,066
But the kid but it's usually the kids
3126
01:50:59,066 --> 01:51:01,199
that are on gta 5 or were
3127
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:02,600
on gta 5 when they were kids
3128
01:51:03,766 --> 01:51:04,633
Do you think they even
3129
01:51:04,633 --> 01:51:06,166
have the mental like?
3130
01:51:07,366 --> 01:51:08,566
Span the play a game as
3131
01:51:08,566 --> 01:51:10,533
long as gta 6 for a long time
3132
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:15,233
Well, are they gonna have a touch screen
3133
01:51:15,233 --> 01:51:17,233
controller for gta 5 or 6?
3134
01:51:17,933 --> 01:51:19,966
Because I mean kids kids nowadays don't
3135
01:51:19,966 --> 01:51:21,533
even play xbox or
3136
01:51:21,533 --> 01:51:23,300
playstation unless their dads
3137
01:51:23,300 --> 01:51:27,133
Let them do it, you know
3138
01:51:27,133 --> 01:51:27,766
Like it's gently
3139
01:51:28,399 --> 01:51:30,500
gta on a touch screen
3140
01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:34,966
Well, I mean that's just you get used to
3141
01:51:34,966 --> 01:51:35,666
the controls you're you get used to
3142
01:51:35,933 --> 01:51:39,266
Gen z doesn't play games from under
3143
01:51:39,266 --> 01:51:41,333
saying quite as much as uh, millenials
3144
01:51:41,333 --> 01:51:43,466
gen alpha still to be determined
3145
01:51:43,533 --> 01:51:46,933
um, I know my kids play with controllers
3146
01:51:46,933 --> 01:51:48,833
they play different types of games they
3147
01:51:49,133 --> 01:51:52,266
So far but they're still pretty young. I
3148
01:51:52,266 --> 01:51:53,333
will have to see once they get into like
3149
01:51:53,333 --> 01:51:55,199
more story driven stuff how
3150
01:51:55,366 --> 01:51:57,633
They're affected by this but
3151
01:51:59,300 --> 01:52:02,033
All I know is I don't play long games
3152
01:52:02,033 --> 01:52:02,933
because I don't have
3153
01:52:02,933 --> 01:52:03,333
the attention span for it
3154
01:52:03,666 --> 01:52:06,966
And I don't use tick tock so
3155
01:52:06,966 --> 01:52:10,166
Or youtube shorts like I I don't use
3156
01:52:10,166 --> 01:52:11,566
short short form video.
3157
01:52:11,566 --> 01:52:13,633
I just don't have time
3158
01:52:14,833 --> 01:52:16,766
Yeah, so when I when
3159
01:52:16,766 --> 01:52:19,833
When when he's talking about we're
3160
01:52:19,833 --> 01:52:22,333
looking to compete for their time
3161
01:52:22,333 --> 01:52:24,166
Not the money
3162
01:52:24,166 --> 01:52:25,500
He's right
3163
01:52:28,266 --> 01:52:28,933
Yeah, it makes a lot more sense
3164
01:52:29,133 --> 01:52:32,333
When it's put like that because I mean on
3165
01:52:32,333 --> 01:52:33,133
the onset it sounds
3166
01:52:33,133 --> 01:52:34,233
completely ridiculous, right?
3167
01:52:34,866 --> 01:52:36,533
But when you really look into a little
3168
01:52:36,533 --> 01:52:37,633
deeper, it actually
3169
01:52:37,633 --> 01:52:38,800
makes a little bit of sense
3170
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:40,866
but I
3171
01:52:40,866 --> 01:52:43,466
Don't yeah, because I mean microsoft
3172
01:52:43,466 --> 01:52:44,266
still wins at the end
3173
01:52:44,266 --> 01:52:45,266
of the day if you play
3174
01:52:45,266 --> 01:52:48,600
Halo on your playstation 5 right? They
3175
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,866
still make some money and yeah, that's
3176
01:52:50,866 --> 01:52:52,266
obviously been the goal the whole time
3177
01:52:52,733 --> 01:52:53,966
Like people are worried about xbox dying
3178
01:52:54,033 --> 01:52:55,066
xbox dying
3179
01:52:56,066 --> 01:52:57,033
xbox
3180
01:52:57,666 --> 01:52:59,266
Microsoft still makes money though. So it
3181
01:52:59,266 --> 01:53:00,733
doesn't really so route to them. It
3182
01:53:00,733 --> 01:53:02,033
doesn't really matter if xbox
3183
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:03,600
as a
3184
01:53:03,933 --> 01:53:05,733
First party console dies
3185
01:53:06,333 --> 01:53:08,133
Because microsoft will still make money.
3186
01:53:08,133 --> 01:53:10,133
They still have a lot of
3187
01:53:10,133 --> 01:53:11,866
ip's and a lot of studios
3188
01:53:12,466 --> 01:53:13,533
It's just a matter of getting
3189
01:53:14,233 --> 01:53:16,266
Those games straight because honestly
3190
01:53:16,266 --> 01:53:17,966
that's they haven't
3191
01:53:17,966 --> 01:53:19,600
been on the best hot streak
3192
01:53:20,399 --> 01:53:22,033
for some for some of the games
3193
01:53:23,233 --> 01:53:24,333
I thought halo infinite was
3194
01:53:24,333 --> 01:53:25,733
fine. But you know, it was just
3195
01:53:26,733 --> 01:53:28,233
Maybe I was just really I don't know.
3196
01:53:28,233 --> 01:53:30,433
Maybe I just wasn't into halo infinite
3197
01:53:32,133 --> 01:53:33,166
Halos are definitely
3198
01:53:33,833 --> 01:53:35,800
Down-trending. I think xbox is a console
3199
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,333
and hardware maker is down
3200
01:53:37,333 --> 01:53:39,199
trending. But them as a publisher
3201
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:40,300
That's where they're setting themselves
3202
01:53:40,300 --> 01:53:43,266
up is for like game pass
3203
01:53:43,266 --> 01:53:44,833
subscriptions publisher
3204
01:53:44,833 --> 01:53:46,566
They want to be one of the biggest and
3205
01:53:46,566 --> 01:53:48,066
best game publishers
3206
01:53:48,966 --> 01:53:50,466
Um make the best that's what
3207
01:53:50,466 --> 01:53:51,433
the you know what i've heard
3208
01:53:51,933 --> 01:53:52,366
uh
3209
01:53:53,533 --> 01:53:54,966
in the world and
3210
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,166
They're definitely they're starting to
3211
01:53:57,166 --> 01:53:58,066
trend towards that
3212
01:53:58,066 --> 01:53:59,533
but we still have to see
3213
01:54:00,166 --> 01:54:01,233
some major games
3214
01:54:01,933 --> 01:54:03,933
From some other ip come out and we have
3215
01:54:03,933 --> 01:54:05,399
not seen that yet. Yeah, and also
3216
01:54:05,933 --> 01:54:07,433
This wasn't the first time someone in the
3217
01:54:07,433 --> 01:54:08,100
games industry
3218
01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:10,066
mentioned tiktok being the enemy
3219
01:54:11,133 --> 01:54:14,333
shon laden mentioned tiktok as well back
3220
01:54:14,333 --> 01:54:15,466
when he was still with playstation
3221
01:54:17,833 --> 01:54:18,233
See
3222
01:54:19,266 --> 01:54:20,433
and he mentioned
3223
01:54:22,766 --> 01:54:25,100
I think oh wow according to this there
3224
01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:26,566
will be a comment when we all declare the
3225
01:54:26,566 --> 01:54:28,933
war is over the future video games
3226
01:54:29,033 --> 01:54:29,899
What's this article
3227
01:54:29,899 --> 01:54:31,566
about? Let's see tiktok
3228
01:54:33,266 --> 01:54:36,233
See an audience leaving for tiktok
3229
01:54:37,266 --> 01:54:39,133
We're not growing the next generation.
3230
01:54:39,133 --> 01:54:39,833
We're losing the next
3231
01:54:39,833 --> 01:54:41,199
generation of tiktok he says
3232
01:54:42,566 --> 01:54:44,566
So maybe there's maybe there's something
3233
01:54:44,566 --> 01:54:47,066
to be said about you know, phil spencer
3234
01:54:47,066 --> 01:54:48,133
and satella nandella
3235
01:54:49,133 --> 01:54:50,733
Talking about losing the
3236
01:54:50,733 --> 01:54:52,000
next generation of tiktok
3237
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,866
I mean because I mean the reason the only
3238
01:54:55,866 --> 01:54:57,333
reason why we like games so much is
3239
01:54:57,333 --> 01:54:58,100
because we've probably been
3240
01:54:58,333 --> 01:54:59,300
Inductuated when we were
3241
01:54:59,300 --> 01:55:01,333
younger into video games, right?
3242
01:55:03,066 --> 01:55:05,333
We were indoctrinated we liked it if they
3243
01:55:05,333 --> 01:55:06,866
like tiktok and they don't really like
3244
01:55:06,866 --> 01:55:08,800
video games and those are customers
3245
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:09,933
They're not getting their their
3246
01:55:09,933 --> 01:55:11,500
customers. They're not getting so I can
3247
01:55:11,500 --> 01:55:12,866
see why they're so concerned
3248
01:55:12,866 --> 01:55:14,433
with tiktok in youtube shorts
3249
01:55:15,533 --> 01:55:16,866
Oh also on the topic of
3250
01:55:16,866 --> 01:55:18,433
tiktok in youtube shorts, I think
3251
01:55:19,066 --> 01:55:20,633
Most of the content kind of sucks to be
3252
01:55:20,633 --> 01:55:22,100
honest. They don't really
3253
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:23,833
have high quality content on
3254
01:55:24,566 --> 01:55:26,533
Well, i'm not saying they don't but like
3255
01:55:26,533 --> 01:55:27,966
a lot of it is not that
3256
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,666
a lot of it is just it's not meant to be
3257
01:55:30,666 --> 01:55:31,633
it's not yeah, I guess
3258
01:55:31,633 --> 01:55:32,766
it's not meant to be but
3259
01:55:33,733 --> 01:55:35,466
It's just so vapid
3260
01:55:36,033 --> 01:55:37,766
Like it's it's hard to make quality
3261
01:55:37,766 --> 01:55:41,133
content when you only have 30 seconds to
3262
01:55:41,133 --> 01:55:42,533
a minute to make your point
3263
01:55:43,133 --> 01:55:44,266
No, well, I think you know what I mean.
3264
01:55:44,466 --> 01:55:45,933
Yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah
3265
01:55:47,766 --> 01:55:49,166
I will say if you're looking for
3266
01:55:49,166 --> 01:55:51,233
somebody, you know, the the one person
3267
01:55:51,233 --> 01:55:52,399
that I watch for
3268
01:55:52,399 --> 01:55:54,399
youtube shorts is tom cardi
3269
01:55:55,166 --> 01:55:55,866
Uh, he makes
3270
01:55:56,566 --> 01:55:59,666
Like, um joke songs and he's hilarious
3271
01:56:00,566 --> 01:56:02,266
So make sure you check out his stuff
3272
01:56:03,033 --> 01:56:04,833
He's the one that did the dnd one where
3273
01:56:04,833 --> 01:56:07,333
perception check if you haven't seen the
3274
01:56:07,333 --> 01:56:08,333
perception check song
3275
01:56:08,933 --> 01:56:09,633
You got to watch it.
3276
01:56:09,633 --> 01:56:10,866
It's great. It's good
3277
01:56:11,933 --> 01:56:12,466
All right
3278
01:56:13,266 --> 01:56:15,000
but on the topic of competition
3279
01:56:16,466 --> 01:56:17,566
Nintendo has some serious
3280
01:56:17,566 --> 01:56:19,399
competition with pow world
3281
01:56:20,966 --> 01:56:22,466
The japanese patent off
3282
01:56:22,466 --> 01:56:25,266
office rejects a nintendo patent
3283
01:56:27,233 --> 01:56:28,133
Of nintendo patent
3284
01:56:28,133 --> 01:56:29,833
that would more or less
3285
01:56:31,133 --> 01:56:33,233
I forget the patent number revolves
3286
01:56:33,233 --> 01:56:34,366
around capturing creatures
3287
01:56:34,366 --> 01:56:35,699
by throwing an object at it
3288
01:56:36,266 --> 01:56:36,833
You know, you know
3289
01:56:36,833 --> 01:56:37,766
throwing a pokeball, right?
3290
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:39,933
And that patent was
3291
01:56:39,933 --> 01:56:42,866
rejected and uh, of course
3292
01:56:44,333 --> 01:56:46,066
That doesn't mean the case is over but
3293
01:56:46,066 --> 01:56:48,733
that means that that pocket pair now has
3294
01:56:48,733 --> 01:56:50,733
a stronger case against nintendo
3295
01:56:52,966 --> 01:56:54,333
They might be able to defend themselves
3296
01:56:54,333 --> 01:56:55,600
and keep power world alive
3297
01:56:56,233 --> 01:56:57,566
All right. We've talked about this a
3298
01:56:57,566 --> 01:56:58,766
number of times. We're
3299
01:56:58,766 --> 01:57:00,500
following it because you know
3300
01:57:00,566 --> 01:57:02,066
Video game patents are steven
3301
01:57:03,533 --> 01:57:04,500
But also it's kind of an
3302
01:57:04,500 --> 01:57:06,100
important case to see here, right?
3303
01:57:09,533 --> 01:57:10,366
Yeah, yeah
3304
01:57:10,866 --> 01:57:12,366
This is a this is a nice little update
3305
01:57:12,366 --> 01:57:14,733
that I saw during the week that oh, hey
3306
01:57:14,866 --> 01:57:16,699
It looks like nintendo's maybe not going
3307
01:57:16,699 --> 01:57:17,833
to win everything that they
3308
01:57:17,833 --> 01:57:19,766
want to win and this is I think
3309
01:57:20,233 --> 01:57:22,666
at least a good step in some of
3310
01:57:23,366 --> 01:57:24,500
What nintendo's trying
3311
01:57:24,500 --> 01:57:25,733
to do with their patents?
3312
01:57:26,533 --> 01:57:29,133
I I was shocked that that
3313
01:57:29,133 --> 01:57:31,033
this was the japanese case too
3314
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,266
Yes, no because like I thought I figured
3315
01:57:34,266 --> 01:57:35,366
oh they'll win in japan
3316
01:57:36,333 --> 01:57:38,699
But uh, you know in europe and in the
3317
01:57:38,699 --> 01:57:39,466
states, they might
3318
01:57:39,466 --> 01:57:41,100
not win quite as easily
3319
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,233
And no, it looks like they said no, this
3320
01:57:44,233 --> 01:57:45,899
was uh, what did they say? They said
3321
01:57:45,899 --> 01:57:48,766
their patent wasn't it lacks innovation
3322
01:57:48,766 --> 01:57:51,466
It lacks innovation. It lacks innovation
3323
01:57:51,466 --> 01:57:53,166
which I was like hell. Yes,
3324
01:57:53,166 --> 01:57:55,166
they also they also mentioned
3325
01:57:55,533 --> 01:57:58,266
Uh some other games too the examples of
3326
01:57:58,266 --> 01:57:59,633
prior arts before nintendo
3327
01:57:59,633 --> 01:58:01,266
patented this for example, uh,
3328
01:58:01,766 --> 01:58:03,000
They mentioned monster
3329
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,533
hunter four as one example
3330
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,399
They mentioned arc survival evolved and
3331
01:58:08,399 --> 01:58:10,300
they also mentioned pocket pairs other
3332
01:58:10,300 --> 01:58:12,233
game that they released called craftopia
3333
01:58:12,233 --> 01:58:14,066
Have you guys ever heard of this one?
3334
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:16,399
No, no, it's kind of
3335
01:58:16,399 --> 01:58:17,266
like breath of the wild
3336
01:58:18,566 --> 01:58:20,199
But like with some poking look like
3337
01:58:20,199 --> 01:58:22,199
crafting elements and like pokemon
3338
01:58:24,566 --> 01:58:26,133
Elements they kind of look it kind of
3339
01:58:26,133 --> 01:58:28,233
vaguely resembles power will to be honest
3340
01:58:28,466 --> 01:58:31,333
Which is kind of crazy to me except, you
3341
01:58:31,333 --> 01:58:31,966
know without the
3342
01:58:31,966 --> 01:58:34,366
various different pal pokemans
3343
01:58:35,133 --> 01:58:36,866
Oh, look you can convey
3344
01:58:36,866 --> 01:58:38,466
about cows into the soup
3345
01:58:39,766 --> 01:58:42,266
I I have a serious question about this
3346
01:58:42,266 --> 01:58:44,566
patent. Yes. Why why
3347
01:58:44,566 --> 01:58:46,666
wouldn't the patent office also?
3348
01:58:47,333 --> 01:58:50,366
Uh mention pokemon as prior art
3349
01:58:52,366 --> 01:58:52,833
Um
3350
01:58:52,966 --> 01:58:55,966
I think it's in the third person sort of
3351
01:58:55,966 --> 01:58:57,033
view. So like you're actually like
3352
01:58:57,533 --> 01:59:01,000
Because like most pokemon games you just
3353
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:02,399
like the pokemon you kind of just throw
3354
01:59:02,399 --> 01:59:03,433
it right whereas like
3355
01:59:03,433 --> 01:59:05,199
You don't aim you don't ever like
3356
01:59:05,199 --> 01:59:06,933
physically aim the pokeball
3357
01:59:08,300 --> 01:59:09,699
I think that's why is that what they were
3358
01:59:09,699 --> 01:59:11,466
trying to patent. Yeah
3359
01:59:11,466 --> 01:59:14,666
Oh my god. Well, you do that with pokemon
3360
01:59:14,666 --> 01:59:15,966
go and that like that
3361
01:59:15,966 --> 01:59:17,300
existed before they did this
3362
01:59:17,666 --> 01:59:20,433
Like I don't know dude. It seems so
3363
01:59:20,433 --> 01:59:21,433
crazy. It didn't exist before the patent
3364
01:59:21,433 --> 01:59:29,266
I think pokemon go's implementation is a
3365
01:59:29,266 --> 01:59:30,733
little different from what uh
3366
01:59:30,733 --> 01:59:32,833
What they were presenting because they
3367
01:59:32,833 --> 01:59:33,966
were presenting like, you know, you're
3368
01:59:33,966 --> 01:59:35,233
you're in third person
3369
01:59:35,233 --> 01:59:36,133
You're aiming with your
3370
01:59:36,133 --> 01:59:37,899
right stick and you're like, yeah
3371
01:59:37,899 --> 01:59:39,466
So like that's a little different from
3372
01:59:39,466 --> 01:59:40,899
pokemon go where you like
3373
01:59:41,466 --> 01:59:42,966
You like kind of rotate the pokeball a
3374
01:59:42,966 --> 01:59:44,066
little bit and then throw it in curve
3375
01:59:44,066 --> 01:59:45,466
I don't think that the patent was that
3376
01:59:45,466 --> 01:59:47,266
specific. I felt like it was just like if you capture a creature by throwing a
3377
01:59:47,366 --> 01:59:52,366
In-game object at the creature
3378
01:59:52,366 --> 01:59:55,233
And then and that existed before the
3379
01:59:55,233 --> 01:59:56,866
patented but they
3380
01:59:56,866 --> 01:59:59,033
patented it after pal world
3381
01:59:59,033 --> 02:00:01,433
came out so they were like
3382
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:04,266
They they here's my what I think happened
3383
02:00:04,266 --> 02:00:06,500
is is nintendo looked at pal world
3384
02:00:06,500 --> 02:00:08,699
They said those are our creature designs
3385
02:00:08,699 --> 02:00:11,133
And then they had some lawyers look at it
3386
02:00:11,133 --> 02:00:11,899
and the lawyers said
3387
02:00:11,899 --> 02:00:13,133
they're different enough
3388
02:00:13,133 --> 02:00:15,100
That we couldn't win we couldn't guarantee a win
3389
02:00:15,199 --> 02:00:19,033
So then nintendo was like well find
3390
02:00:19,033 --> 02:00:20,399
something else that we can do
3391
02:00:21,199 --> 02:00:23,266
And so then they they said why don't you
3392
02:00:23,266 --> 02:00:24,966
guys make a patent for throwing a ball at
3393
02:00:24,966 --> 02:00:26,133
an enemy in a field?
3394
02:00:26,899 --> 02:00:30,966
And we'll sue them for for that if the
3395
02:00:30,966 --> 02:00:32,533
patent gets awarded which it was
3396
02:00:33,133 --> 02:00:36,600
Which is stupid. Yeah, lots of patent.
3397
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:37,933
Yeah, lots of patents were
3398
02:00:37,933 --> 02:00:40,666
awarded but this does I mean
3399
02:00:40,666 --> 02:00:43,066
The fact that this one was ejected. This
3400
02:00:43,066 --> 02:00:44,066
isn't a family of patents
3401
02:00:44,066 --> 02:00:45,100
too. This isn't just right
3402
02:00:45,533 --> 02:00:47,333
And now an isolated one. It's a family of
3403
02:00:47,333 --> 02:00:49,733
patents regarding capturing mechanics and
3404
02:00:49,733 --> 02:00:51,466
throwing balls at creatures
3405
02:00:52,166 --> 02:00:52,733
so this
3406
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,533
I mean i'm not i'm not saying this might
3407
02:00:55,533 --> 02:00:57,633
be the silver bullet that pocket pair
3408
02:00:57,633 --> 02:00:58,899
needs to win the case
3409
02:00:59,933 --> 02:01:01,100
But it's definitely something
3410
02:01:02,733 --> 02:01:05,566
It's at least a positive direction where
3411
02:01:05,566 --> 02:01:06,833
it didn't feel like it
3412
02:01:06,833 --> 02:01:07,800
was going to go that route
3413
02:01:08,566 --> 02:01:09,266
Now what i'd really
3414
02:01:09,266 --> 02:01:10,666
like to see is microsoft
3415
02:01:11,199 --> 02:01:12,333
Because they own blizzard
3416
02:01:13,033 --> 02:01:14,500
blizzard had um
3417
02:01:16,166 --> 02:01:17,100
In world of warcraft
3418
02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:18,066
you could play pokemon
3419
02:01:19,266 --> 02:01:21,833
And it wasn't pokemon like because they
3420
02:01:21,833 --> 02:01:22,666
had their own creatures,
3421
02:01:22,666 --> 02:01:25,133
but like literally you would
3422
02:01:25,533 --> 02:01:28,766
Throw a box at a creature and catch it
3423
02:01:28,766 --> 02:01:29,933
and then use it to battle
3424
02:01:29,933 --> 02:01:31,733
other teams of creatures
3425
02:01:32,333 --> 02:01:34,866
it was literally pokemon and
3426
02:01:35,433 --> 02:01:35,800
like
3427
02:01:36,533 --> 02:01:38,333
Nintendo going after pocket pair because
3428
02:01:38,333 --> 02:01:40,166
their pocket pair. They're not going to
3429
02:01:40,166 --> 02:01:42,300
go after microsoft. Of course there's
3430
02:01:42,333 --> 02:01:45,533
Too much money like they they can throw
3431
02:01:45,533 --> 02:01:48,066
so much money at the and at the lawsuit
3432
02:01:48,066 --> 02:01:53,533
I I don't know man. I think i'd like to
3433
02:01:53,533 --> 02:01:55,633
see how this case goes on because it is
3434
02:01:55,633 --> 02:01:57,166
it is pretty important, too
3435
02:01:57,366 --> 02:01:59,833
I because yeah, I mean it's pretty clear
3436
02:01:59,833 --> 02:02:00,566
that they're trying
3437
02:02:00,566 --> 02:02:01,566
to go after pocket pair
3438
02:02:02,399 --> 02:02:03,800
Because you know, they have
3439
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:06,166
they vaguely resemble pokemon
3440
02:02:08,233 --> 02:02:10,066
And yeah, but of course, you know
3441
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:12,566
There they look more like parodies of
3442
02:02:12,566 --> 02:02:13,699
pokemon, which is why they probably
3443
02:02:13,699 --> 02:02:15,500
couldn't like go directly after them
3444
02:02:16,266 --> 02:02:17,766
Like they're not going after digimon
3445
02:02:17,766 --> 02:02:19,000
digimon has been runs for
3446
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:20,366
almost as long as pokemon has
3447
02:02:24,199 --> 02:02:26,566
And even like the games like digimon, uh,
3448
02:02:26,566 --> 02:02:27,566
I got the new digimon
3449
02:02:27,566 --> 02:02:28,933
game it's pretty good
3450
02:02:30,199 --> 02:02:32,533
And it's a very it's very similar like
3451
02:02:32,533 --> 02:02:34,566
it's turn based. Yeah your various
3452
02:02:34,566 --> 02:02:35,866
digimon. Yeah, the abilities
3453
02:02:36,466 --> 02:02:37,966
You don't capture them on ball though.
3454
02:02:37,966 --> 02:02:40,066
No, you you fight a couple of the digimon
3455
02:02:40,066 --> 02:02:42,633
Then you then you convert their data into
3456
02:02:42,633 --> 02:02:44,833
like a digimon you can actually use
3457
02:02:44,833 --> 02:02:48,666
I don't know man. There's a lot our world
3458
02:02:48,666 --> 02:02:50,733
is very similar to the pokemon games.
3459
02:02:50,733 --> 02:02:52,699
Yeah, it's more so i'm not
3460
02:02:53,133 --> 02:02:54,833
Overly like when I played the game i'm
3461
02:02:54,833 --> 02:02:56,399
like this is they're gonna get sued
3462
02:02:56,966 --> 02:02:58,566
Not rightfully so but they're gonna get
3463
02:02:58,566 --> 02:03:00,233
sued because nintendo is infamous for
3464
02:03:00,233 --> 02:03:01,933
suing. Yeah, but like it's not it's like
3465
02:03:01,933 --> 02:03:03,333
a parody almost like
3466
02:03:03,366 --> 02:03:06,833
Like it's like it's pokemon with guns
3467
02:03:06,833 --> 02:03:09,333
that enough is like parody they're not
3468
02:03:09,333 --> 02:03:10,899
right there. Yeah, I mean
3469
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:12,066
the I
3470
02:03:12,866 --> 02:03:16,066
In in like a good world with good patent
3471
02:03:16,066 --> 02:03:17,833
system, which I don't even know if I
3472
02:03:17,833 --> 02:03:18,833
fully think the patent
3473
02:03:18,833 --> 02:03:20,066
system is even worth it anymore
3474
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:21,399
software
3475
02:03:22,166 --> 02:03:25,233
design like uh, especially like ui
3476
02:03:25,233 --> 02:03:26,733
designed ux all that
3477
02:03:27,266 --> 02:03:27,733
mechanics
3478
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:30,800
Is doesn't make sense to patent and it's
3479
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:31,733
crazy that you can patent it
3480
02:03:32,733 --> 02:03:34,666
So I mean mechanics I can see a
3481
02:03:34,666 --> 02:03:36,399
similarity between like game mechanics
3482
02:03:36,399 --> 02:03:38,166
and recipes like you
3483
02:03:38,166 --> 02:03:39,433
can't copyright a recipe
3484
02:03:39,899 --> 02:03:40,466
You shouldn't be able
3485
02:03:40,466 --> 02:03:42,166
to patent a game mechanic
3486
02:03:42,733 --> 02:03:44,266
Yeah, you should not be
3487
02:03:44,266 --> 02:03:45,766
able to yeah, and I agree
3488
02:03:45,766 --> 02:03:48,066
Yeah, and like even if someone tries to
3489
02:03:48,066 --> 02:03:49,166
make an approximation of
3490
02:03:49,166 --> 02:03:51,266
your like game mechanic
3491
02:03:51,266 --> 02:03:52,100
They're not going to do it
3492
02:03:52,100 --> 02:03:53,633
perfectly because you know
3493
02:03:53,633 --> 02:03:54,866
That's just kind of how they're gonna
3494
02:03:54,866 --> 02:03:55,866
like will change things
3495
02:03:55,866 --> 02:03:57,833
The whole point is it's not a copyright a
3496
02:03:57,833 --> 02:03:58,699
patent so that they can
3497
02:03:58,733 --> 02:04:00,966
Um that they invested
3498
02:04:00,966 --> 02:04:03,066
that they spent a lot of time
3499
02:04:03,666 --> 02:04:05,800
Working through to build that mechanic,
3500
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,833
which is not usually not true like
3501
02:04:07,833 --> 02:04:09,466
mechanic like patents
3502
02:04:09,466 --> 02:04:11,366
you go back to spending
3503
02:04:12,066 --> 02:04:14,066
Tons of money on rnd and
3504
02:04:14,066 --> 02:04:15,266
trying to recoup it back
3505
02:04:15,866 --> 02:04:17,633
That's where patents come from that is
3506
02:04:17,633 --> 02:04:19,100
not how it works in the
3507
02:04:19,100 --> 02:04:20,133
software world. Typically
3508
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:21,633
It does not take a whole
3509
02:04:21,633 --> 02:04:23,433
lot to replicate something
3510
02:04:24,399 --> 02:04:26,199
I mean just imagine if nintendo because
3511
02:04:26,199 --> 02:04:28,033
they invented jumping in video games
3512
02:04:29,199 --> 02:04:30,333
They had jump man
3513
02:04:30,733 --> 02:04:32,800
Yeah, right in the donkey con game
3514
02:04:33,366 --> 02:04:35,833
And what if they patented jumping?
3515
02:04:36,566 --> 02:04:39,433
pressing a button on a ux interface
3516
02:04:40,466 --> 02:04:43,366
And your character jumps and then they
3517
02:04:43,366 --> 02:04:44,266
could stop everybody
3518
02:04:44,266 --> 02:04:45,733
from making jumping games
3519
02:04:46,133 --> 02:04:47,000
Well, you know if the tinder were
3520
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:48,366
smarter, they would have done that but
3521
02:04:48,366 --> 02:04:50,166
yeah, they can't they can't go
3522
02:04:50,166 --> 02:04:52,733
They can't do it. No, I know but i'm just
3523
02:04:52,733 --> 02:04:56,166
showing how stupid this lawsuit is. Yeah,
3524
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I mean no, it's very stupid
3525
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It's very stupid
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And they're also
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choosing to do this very um
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How old does pat I don't
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even think the throwing?
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02:05:05,766 --> 02:05:07,633
To capture a pokemon mechanic has been
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patented that long. No, that's apparently
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the whole like family of
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02:05:11,233 --> 02:05:13,166
patents was submitted in 2023
3534
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:15,466
Yep, so it's very
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Shaky on that even now if
3536
02:05:17,666 --> 02:05:19,166
they would have done it way back
3537
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Like maybe like maybe 10 years ago
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But if they had done it when they
3539
02:05:22,699 --> 02:05:24,866
invented like throwing a ball to capture
3540
02:05:24,866 --> 02:05:26,399
a pokemon that patent
3541
02:05:26,399 --> 02:05:27,566
would have expired already
3542
02:05:28,466 --> 02:05:29,766
You can renew the patents
3543
02:05:30,733 --> 02:05:31,066
well
3544
02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:34,733
And most people do a few a few times. You
3545
02:05:34,733 --> 02:05:35,533
can't do it indefinitely
3546
02:05:36,399 --> 02:05:38,133
no, at least in the state
3547
02:05:38,966 --> 02:05:41,933
Yeah, but a lot of patents are renewed
3548
02:05:41,933 --> 02:05:42,966
for a very long time.
3549
02:05:42,966 --> 02:05:43,933
Our patent system's broken
3550
02:05:45,033 --> 02:05:46,800
Well, I mean at the very least if they
3551
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:48,933
were if they did that when pokemon first
3552
02:05:48,933 --> 02:05:51,433
came out and they renewed it, you know
3553
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:53,666
Power what couldn't exist the way it does
3554
02:05:53,666 --> 02:05:55,233
now they could probably keep they could
3555
02:05:55,233 --> 02:05:56,666
probably do the they could probably keep
3556
02:05:56,666 --> 02:05:57,433
the creature designs
3557
02:05:57,433 --> 02:05:59,766
But they'd have to change like every
3558
02:05:59,766 --> 02:06:00,566
other thing
3559
02:06:00,566 --> 02:06:03,533
surrounding pokemon pokemon. Yeah
3560
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:07,666
I you turn into like a rts where you
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02:06:07,666 --> 02:06:08,433
control a bunch of
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02:06:08,433 --> 02:06:09,899
little pokemon with guns
3563
02:06:10,566 --> 02:06:11,833
That'd be kind of fun to play actually
3564
02:06:12,733 --> 02:06:14,266
Well, then they'd patent
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02:06:14,266 --> 02:06:18,133
pickman and then they would sue. Ah
3566
02:06:18,133 --> 02:06:20,399
You sound like an antenna lawyer you
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should work for nintendo
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02:06:22,399 --> 02:06:23,266
You've got me doing a
3569
02:06:23,266 --> 02:06:24,466
lot of jobs today high tech
3570
02:06:25,033 --> 02:06:27,300
nintendo hire this man
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02:06:29,133 --> 02:06:30,133
You guys you guys have
3572
02:06:30,133 --> 02:06:32,166
heard that phrase, right
3573
02:06:33,199 --> 02:06:34,600
Nintendo hire this man
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02:06:35,366 --> 02:06:35,666
no
3575
02:06:36,466 --> 02:06:38,699
It's when someone it's when someone makes
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02:06:38,699 --> 02:06:40,833
like an unreal engine remake of like
3577
02:06:40,833 --> 02:06:42,166
mario and they make it
3578
02:06:42,166 --> 02:06:43,466
like all super cinematic
3579
02:06:43,833 --> 02:06:45,666
We're like a remake of the augurian time
3580
02:06:45,666 --> 02:06:48,833
and it looks like a ue 5 game and some
3581
02:06:48,833 --> 02:06:50,033
random guy in the comments going
3582
02:06:50,233 --> 02:06:51,866
nintendo hire this man
3583
02:06:55,199 --> 02:06:56,833
Man it's it's something I
3584
02:06:56,833 --> 02:06:59,333
need an unreal mario probably not
3585
02:06:59,333 --> 02:07:02,699
As a like a fun like I don't need it from
3586
02:07:02,699 --> 02:07:05,033
nintendo themselves as a mod or like a
3587
02:07:05,033 --> 02:07:07,800
I mean nintendo doesn't need I don't
3588
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:08,866
think nintendo has ever made
3589
02:07:08,866 --> 02:07:10,066
a game in unreal. Have they?
3590
02:07:10,833 --> 02:07:11,133
like
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02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:12,733
in-house nintendo
3592
02:07:13,933 --> 02:07:15,666
Probably not they have their own engine
3593
02:07:15,666 --> 02:07:17,100
system a lot of their games
3594
02:07:17,100 --> 02:07:18,133
wouldn't make sense to use
3595
02:07:18,966 --> 02:07:19,966
Yeah, the underlingen
3596
02:07:20,733 --> 02:07:23,033
And for nintendo in a world where
3597
02:07:23,033 --> 02:07:24,866
nintendo does optimize for
3598
02:07:24,866 --> 02:07:26,500
their systems for the most part
3599
02:07:26,966 --> 02:07:29,133
uh game freak doesn't but uh
3600
02:07:29,266 --> 02:07:31,100
They're game freak. So they're
3601
02:07:31,100 --> 02:07:32,633
technically not owned by nintendo
3602
02:07:34,333 --> 02:07:36,300
Which is which is a crazy thing to me
3603
02:07:37,199 --> 02:07:39,133
Well, yes, we need to start
3604
02:07:39,133 --> 02:07:40,033
heading over to the bonuses
3605
02:07:40,966 --> 02:07:41,566
All right
3606
02:07:42,166 --> 02:07:43,966
Well, thanks for joining us on this
3607
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episode of off the console man. It's been
3608
02:07:45,966 --> 02:07:47,166
it's been nice seeing you again
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02:07:47,166 --> 02:07:48,133
I know we don't I know we
3610
02:07:48,133 --> 02:07:49,166
don't talk that often but
3611
02:07:50,166 --> 02:07:51,500
You're pretty cool, dude
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02:07:53,466 --> 02:07:54,666
Thanks. Yeah, thanks for joining us it
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was great. Thank you. All right. Have a
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02:07:56,733 --> 02:07:58,300
good one guys. All right, take care