The Silksong we have indie developers
delaying their game because of Silksong.
It releases next week
Yeah, so many many indie
developers were releasing in
September but many of them
delayed their games due to
Concerns that Silksong is just gonna eat
up all their sales and I mean to be fair
I think that's probably gonna happen like
yeah if your game was releasing it and
Silksong was released next to your game
Would you delay your
game gardener? Oh, yeah?
Fun story I when I released dude links
I had the date picked out like like a two
months in advance and
then the day I released it
Supergiant games
stealth dropped Hades oh my
At least these devs have a heads up that
it's coming out, but as we all know
Rockstar has some insiders that knew that
Silksong was releasing this year, so
obviously be deleted to avoid Silksong
right? Yeah, of course, absolutely
Yeah, yeah, I mean Silksong
would eat GTA 6 as lunch so
Yeah, they probably will
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How's it going high tech?
Well, you know I'm doing
alright man this webcam situation is
Not great, but it's whatever I guess
yeah, I noticed that
just as we were starting
Dude so we have some big stories we're
gonna talk about today
We've got Silksong causing Indies to
delay their releases of their games. We
have Sony reportedly
Planning a PlayStation 6 portable
handheld unit that's interesting
And then there's a ton of other
topics we're gonna hit on today
But we like to start to show off by
talking about the the games or the things
we've been doing this week
So high tech why don't you start us off?
What have we been doing this week?
So I've been juggling ninja Gaiden
ragebound and shinobi art of vengeance
Both are really good by the way
Yeah, I've just had less time to play
overall, but man those are good. You
should you should
definitely pick those up
Yeah, I I definitely want to check out
You see ninja Gaiden
Yeah, ninja Gaiden ragebound ragebound. I
had you know, I think you were talking
about that last week, right?
yeah, so
For those who don't know ninja Gaiden
ragebound is like a throwback to the old
like NES style of Ninja Gaiden games
Yeah, so it's a 2d like
2d action platformer
Let me just pull that up here. I think
you'd really like a gardener and it's on
GOG DRM free. Oh, hell yeah
Wow, dude, this looks
awesome. This looks like my kind of
Ninja Gaiden game
Dude, I I know you would like it for a
fact. I think James would too if you were
here. Yeah, sadly my favorite
Games in the series are the NES ones
Yeah, this is a throwback to that one,
you know the bit of a spoiler but the
prologue has you playing as a
Joe Hayabusa
Rees dad before he gets in that like
fateful duel in the beginning. Oh, yeah,
you know the iconic
cutscene. Yeah. Oh, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, heck yeah, I'm
definitely gonna check this out. This is
going on my wish list here
Where's the wish list button right there?
There's also there's also a sweet new
bundle with that and it's called path of
the ninja go to bundle info
They made like new art
for like the crossover art
It's pretty sick. Oh nice and
That's the other one. I've been playing
shinobi rage back. I'm a
shinobi heart of vengeance. Oh
Cool that looks great. Yeah
Are they sit there similar games?
Well, they play they play very
differently, but they're both like 2d
action like platformers
Yeah, I'll do this looks really great too
For some reason when you were talking
about shinobi and ninja guy nice thing
I like the 3d ones which are less of my
speed, but this is
this looks really great
Yeah, I mean they're making a new they're
making ninja gotten for
the new one of the new like
3d hack and slash ones. Mm-hmm. And that
one looks pretty cool.
Don't want to pick it up, but
There's a game that's coming out and like
next week that I think most of us will
probably be getting I think
What is that we'll be talking about that
in a little bit, okay cool, yeah
nice
Dude, well, I have been playing nothing
because I've been extremely busy. I
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Released a vlog on the heavy element
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about kind of the hardships
of like the seasonality of
Main business. It's been a lot of fun.
It's very hyper nation specific
But if anyone out there is interested,
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then what else have I been doing?
I've been kind of I've been screwing
around with with this guy the the
Is this the red retro pie 5?
Is that what it's called retroid pocket
5, I don't know why I said retro
But yeah, I've been extremely busy this
week. So I haven't had time
to like relax even a little bit
That's perfectly
valid, dude, you know, yeah
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Cool well, you want to talk
about the first story today?
Yeah, we've got the silk song we have
indie developers delaying their game
because of silk song
This is this is this is the game
I was alluding to earlier when I said the
games releasing. Yes, it
releases next week. Yeah on
September the 4th, so a Thursday
Lord so many many indie developers were
releasing in September
But it's gonna be real hard but many of
them delayed their games
due to concerns that yes
So son is just gonna eat up all their
sales and I mean to be fair
I think that's probably
gonna happen like yeah
If you're if your game was releasing and
then silk song was released next year
game with you delay your
game gardener. Oh, yeah
Yeah, you better believe it
A fun story I when I released dudelings
I I had it like I had the date picked out
like like a two months in advance
And then the day I released it
Supergiant games stealth dropped Hades oh
At least these devs have a heads up it
looks like this heavy out dude
Imagine a silk song and Hades to release
on the same day. They would like
cannibalize each other sales
Yes, absolutely. So there were a couple
of games one is slot machine
rogue like clover pit. Mmm, I
Think it's interesting cuz like if this
were if these were all triple-a
developers doing this and yes
Some of them have like delayed games
because of other much bigger games. They
wouldn't mention the name
They wouldn't mention the game by name.
They would be like, yeah, like this
happened once with
Final Fantasy 14 expansion
Being delayed because of elven rings DLC
Mmm and
A lot of and a lot of triple-a developers
were playing chicken because of GTA 6
they weren't they didn't know if it was
Gonna release this year or not. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. We talked about that a couple weeks
ago. Yeah, we did. Yeah and
But as we all know
Rockstar has some insiders that knew that
silk songs releasing this year. So
obviously be deleted to
avoid silk song, right?
Yeah, of course. Absolutely. Yeah
Yeah, I mean silk song
would eat GTA 6 as lunch so
They probably will and they just
announced the price. Oh, yeah, 20 bucks.
Mm-hmm. What was the
original when they launched it?
I think they launched that at 20 bucks as
well. But it's you know, of course, it's
gone down in price sense. Yeah
Interesting so were there any other
titles that delayed looks like
um
Stomped sort of miracles here. There's
there's more in the list. There's more to
I think this article
lists all of the games
I got the lead that we know of. Mmm
A turn a turn on the loose is another
Metroidvania. Yeah, I think
It's been delayed to 2026 as a whole. Oh
And I think some of these
developers were planning post
post release content, but you know given
Given that the game is gonna be delayed
as I guess it's just gonna be part of the
launch release. Right?
Yeah, I see another one demon school not
the same type of game
Yeah, a lot of these games aren't even
the same like genre of
games. Mmm, like demon schools a
Tactical RPG not the same genre, but you
know, of course they are keenly aware
that so someone probably
just eat their lunch. Yeah
unfortunately
I
Mean but also like this is
not bad press for these games
Like I hadn't heard of any of the games
that we've talked about so far
But now because they're delayed their
game because of silk song I you know
Definitely. They're on my radar now. Oh
Look at that tweet
Can you play four by three
on your CRT like demon school
That's a good question.
That is a good question
You have a four by three CRT. I don't
actually I have well
I do I do but I don't use it very often.
I have a 16 by 9 flat CRT. Oh
Yeah, well, you know you should do when
so song releases
definitely going to try that
There is a bit of like
distortion on the side
So platformers like like 2d platformers
tend to like have some kind of
Warp warping
So they're not my
favorite games to plan that thing
At least when they're in
full like widescreen support
But if they're like 16 if they're four by
three in the center, then there's no
warping. That's it's nice to play on
Come on, you got to do for the content
even if does work a
little I know I actually set up
I have a camera that I have up here
Which I don't have set up yet, but it's
like mounted to the ceiling and so when I
do live streams from my CRT
Or if I'm playing on the the iMac G3
I'll be able to switch to that camera up
here and you'll be able to
see what I'm doing on the CRT
Monitors, so I'm
really excited about that
Dude, I gotta see it
when it happens. Oh, yeah
Bennett Fotties new game is also getting
delayed because of
still sung as well. Mmm
(Laughter)
Baby steps is that the name?
Yeah
It's the one where like you're a man
child and you're a it's a little it's the
walking simulator that
looks like you're like a
Manchild and a man diaper trying to like
walk. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah,
Bennett Foddy, right, right the
Getting over it right
and co-op co-op. Yep
Yeah, I don't know how I feel
about these type of games, but
They make for good
Contact on dinner at least. Yeah
Literally, what is he wearing?
Dude, it's it's he's like a man child and
you're taking control of him
He has a he has to relearn how to walk
like he's in rehab. Oh, wow. Oh
My gosh, oh lord
Oh
My god, I got he got hit in the nuts
Yeah
Why?
This is gonna be fun for
about 10 minutes and then
Rage inducing. Yeah, but hey man, it's
one of those games that like
Makes you want to rate it makes you want
to keep going because you get real so
pissed off at it, right?
Mm-hmm for some people I think oh
There's more games. I think you have to
go press back in your browser to go back
to that other article. Mm-hmm
See what else? Yeah, yeah, yeah
So I'm sure there are many many more
developers that like
delayed their games, yeah
But I wouldn't know of any of them
because they're not listed in the
articles those are just
the more high-profile cases
Yeah, I think the Bennett Foddy has kind
of become like the Indy Indy celebrity
and so him
postponing his game for a while is
definitely
Yeah, yeah, they know
Yikes
But I mean again, like it's it's decent
publicity for them, right?
Yeah, it is
You know, they get a they don't have to
compete with silk song
And be you know now people know that
these games exist and got delayed
Was delayed because
of silk song so right?
Absolutely. Well, and this game has been
this game has been on our radar for a
while, right? Like I've been a fan of
Hollow Knight for ages and I know you
were talking about wanting to see silk
song get released or announced
I mean at the game
awards last year, right? I
Think that was mostly just it was mostly
us like Josh and around yeah
Was either that or half-life 3 or GTA 6
or bloodborne on PC?
Yeah, a bit of a meme, but I mean still I
wanted to see silk song
Yeah, I do find it interesting
Also, I don't think we talked. I don't
know if we talked about this
It's not in our article list, but Hollow
Knight just recently
broke its record. Oh, really?
Yeah, it's a record of concurrent players
as of recent if you go to
steam DB, you can see that
People are getting really high for silk
song and some people
That famously didn't like Hollow Knight
to begin with like like mr. Gene Park of
the Washington Post. He
likes it now. Oh, really?
Yeah, I only know this because I follow
him on Twitter and he also follows me as
well. Wow. Oh my god. Look at that
Yeah, that's juicy man that I mean they
didn't just break their record. They
absolutely smashed it
So the highest peak before this was
20,000 concurrent players in May of 2022
Was that around the time they announced
they were doing silk song or was that I
don't even know what that would have been
But I don't know either to be honest, but
now their concurrent players
in August was 65,000. So like
three times almost
Two times. I think it's it might still be
going up to be honest. Yeah, I mean
August is over for sure
So that's absolutely crazy. People are
getting really hyped for silk song which
tells me silk songs gonna do really well
Yeah. Oh, yeah, but the question
everyone's afraid of asking
is what if silk song sucks
What if it sucks that I mean I think that
there's a low likelihood of
that they've taken their time
And they've been able
to ride the success of
The original game so yes, I don't think
it's gonna suck either
Yeah, I just asked him
that because it's yeah
I mean if it sucks that would probably be
pretty disastrous for
their studio, right?
Like I think it would they would
definitely be the end
of team cherry for sure
Yeah, making they made people wait so
long for a game that
if it sucks
Then yeah, it's gonna be bad. Yeah, what
are like the the big features of
Silk song like what's bringing what I
haven't been following it too closely
Dude I have no idea. Yeah, what's new in
silk songs because they they're famously
not talking about the game as you know
Yeah, like there's like no communication.
So I don't even know what's really new
besides the fact that you play as
I don't even remember
her name. I silk something
Yeah, but you play it but she was a boss
in the original Hollow Knight, yes
Mmm, if you just horn it. Yeah. Okay, so
not silk something man
It's a game with like almost minimal
storytelling yeah direct storytelling
So I guess it makes
sense that I can't remember
I don't even remember the main
character's name in the original Hollow
Knight. Hmm. He's
called the night. Oh, yeah
Fair enough fair play team cherry. Yeah
All right, but the question is are you
gonna drop what you're
doing to play silk song?
It depends
I think I have some time next week. It's
that's when it's coming out, right?
Yes, that's right comes out Thursday
Yeah, see so I definitely want to play
it. I think I'm I
think I have time to do it
I'll probably play it on stream too, but
I also have been like
like itching to play
Gears of War
Reloaded
Which is like one of my
favorite games of that generation
And I just haven't had time to I
downloaded it. It's on my steam deck and
I just haven't had time to play it yet
Mm-hmm, but so I mean it's gonna be a
I'm after split my time equally for the
games that I well so deeply why there's
something right there
It says team cherry has stated that silk
song will be very large
200 new enemies
40 new bosses a hundred benches around
the game world compared
compared to I think you see
Over 140 over 30 and 51 respectively in
the original Hollow Knight at launch
and
Grade more supposed to be one of the
biggest areas they've ever created
So it looks to be Hollow Knight, but just
more more more more. So
Just here's the thing I
don't really like large
Levels or large game
worlds. I like a more compact and
like
Concise game world right like I prefer
Banjo Kazooie to Banjo Tooie
Banjo Tooie felt sparse and
Empty right and Banjo Kazooie was like
this dense fun world
I mean I I'm not gonna
pick cast judgment on on
This game yet on silk song, but I will
say that has me raising an eyebrow
Well, maybe you're just faster overall in
silk song. Yeah, that could be for sure
But yeah, I am excited I
definitely will be checking it out
Yeah, I think I might yeah, I mean I've
been I said I was playing
shinobi and ninja Gaiden
But I might have to add another game to
my juggling list. Yeah, how do you manage
juggling games by the
way? It's hard for me
That's a good question
Cuz like I'm not sure cuz I
Know some people have like let's say for
like some people have issues with like
juggling around
different like system controllers
Like if you switch between like a
Nintendo controller and Xbox controller
they get X and PlayStation
They would get X mixed up. I don't that
doesn't happen to me though. Mmm
Yeah, I know it's kind of instinctual
that like if I know if I have a Nintendo
controller in my hands
I know where a and B
are, you know, right?
But for me I
Find like if I have a game that I'm
playing like let's say Gears
of War for example, and then
Another game that I want to play comes
out. Suddenly, I feel a
lot of like choice anxiety
And it's just easier for
me to not play them. Oh
My gosh, I know that feeling too, but
yeah, I think at this point
I'm gonna have to rush I'm not rush
But I'm thinking just something to spend
my time focusing on one of the two games
I'm playing right now
I mean just get that yeah, I don't want
to get out of the way because
it sounds like it's annoying
But like, you know, I'm saying yeah. Oh,
no, I get it. I you know, what would be
really fun is if I do
Gears so here's that so Gears of War
played on 16 by 9 feels normal to me,
right? And so playing that on my
TV over here will take me right back to
plan it on my 360 because I had
I
Had a CRT on my 360
when I first got a 360
So doing that I think I might do that on
stream and have my camera set up over
here. So and streaming that
But then playing Hollow Knight, yeah, I
might stream it from my steam deck. Well,
you know while sitting here
And that might just be enough
Differentiation to actually play the two
games at the same time
No, I think that that I think that does
work cuz it's not like you're just
singing it could be a plane
The layout. Yeah, I get I get it though
But whatever I do
I have to avoid playing games at all cost
on my PC itself because I
this this is where I work
All right now, yeah now we got asked
James will you drop
everything to play so it's on next week
There I asked him well if he responds
during the show will just
We'll let you guys know but if not, we'll
just put in the comments down below on
YouTube. Mmm. I've seen comment
Alright, but I mean, I don't know much
what more we can say
about silk song besides
It's gonna be it's it's finally happening
man. What's next Half-Life 3?
Half-Life 3 dude. I mean, I think what's
next for playing silk song is gonna be
playing it on your portable
Sony handheld the PlayStation 6
What is this story about?
so There's a report claiming that Sony wants
to make two different
kinds of PlayStation 6's
First and foremost is your standard, you
know console more
powerful of course naturally
But they also want to make a
switch style dockable handheld
that
When docked will be more powerful than
the base ps5. So they say
And this is according to Moore's law is
dead. Mm-hmm. That's a leak site. All
right, like they mostly publish leaks
Yeah, yeah leak youtuber
right, so the
portable the portable
ps6 is supposed to have
Zen for Zen 6c cores
Realers n6 e cores and also two of those
cool and to sip two separate course for
quote-unquote system tasks
Mmm interesting so eight or eight course
total two of them
dedicated to like the no no no
No for four course for gaming and then
two those are fours. So six cores
It says oh, oh for four Zen see cores and
two further. Okay, so it is a six core.
Right, right, right?
I read yes, and it's supposed to have 16
our DNA 5 compute compute units
Hmm supposed to run a 1.2 gigahertz
handheld and 1.65 gigahertz docked and
It's supposed to retail for
$500 which is incredibly cheap for a
handheld. Yeah for sure
Like the steam deck is around that price
and this would and if the specs are to be
believed and this would eclipse the steam
Neck by a lot. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah,
this would overtake it
easily and
$500, I
Mean, I would bet that the $500 version
is like 128 gigabytes of
storage maximum like there's
They're gonna be gouging pricing with
with higher higher tier
storage. I would imagine
Oh, yeah for sure, but like 500 bucks.
That's crazy. I would
consider picking up a ps6
at a handheld one for 500 bucks
Absolutely, yes
That said there's I mean
My personal opinion though. I see a lot
of games running poorly
I'm not just not just PC
but also on consoles as well
Yeah, like Monster in a
while still runs terribly
So I and not it's not just on and it's
not just on the base ps5
but also ps5 Pro as well
which makes me wonder
Mr. Makes you wonders if if games can
really get much better and
I think Sony is seeing
The writing on the wall and that's why
they're going for a more portable
approach. Right? Well also like
Correct me if I'm wrong, but like zen 6
would be breaking with
tradition, right? Like I mean
Even when the ps5
released the the generation of
Of like CPU APU hardware was like one or
two generations old at that point, right?
Right zen 6 if they were if
they released this in 2027
Zen 6 is gonna be pretty new
Still like so that just
bought boggles my mind a little bit
I mean they look like they're really
going for like the state-of-the-art
versus like tried and true stable
CPU hardware, I
Mean, that's totally valid. But I think
for like higher efficiency games
I mean going state-of-the-art might be
the way to go for like a handheld like
this. That's what yeah
I mean that makes sense
But I mean even the steam deck was like I
know it was delayed by like six months
But like it's still like the CPU was
Older, right? I mean the CPU was older
but at the same time
though it was still like
The most at the time the most powerful
APU because you couldn't buy any APUs
with our DNA anything in them, right?
You know no handhelds had our DNA at all.
They were still all running Vega
They're all either running Intel or they
were running AMD with Vega. I think
So that's right Vega
was like the big deal for
Handhelds and for like mini PCs yeah
And yeah, and as a result the steam deck
was not only cheaper
than like the original
I a neo which was at the
time the best handheld hmm
But it was also like substantially more
powerful and power efficient
So it was the steam deck at the time
basically was the
best of like both worlds
At the time for sure. It wasn't
considered the cheap
handheld was considered
The strength of the best.
Yeah, and the cheapest yeah
I mean and if Sony if these rumors are
true, then Sony would definitely be
swooping in and stealing that
Both both badges there
cheapest and most powerful
Yes, and the steam deck should just opt
to do the same thing I'm hoping
Yeah, I'm hoping we get a
steam deck at some point I
But I mean, I don't know when that's
gonna happen to be honest
I would love to have a steam deck I
Would even take like Fremont as a console
like that would be
that would be cool as well
Well, hopefully it happens sooner than
later man, I'm sick of waiting
Hello, wait, so I
remember the OLED steam deck
Had some benchmark sleep a couple of
months in advance, right?
Yeah for the it was announced
Yeah, so maybe it'll only be a couple of
months until we get Fremont
Sometime towards the end of the year. I
would hope that it's
like in time for Christmas
Dude Fremont's gonna
be sick dude. I would
If they also come out with half-life
three at the same time boy,
howdy would that be exciting?
That would be the best Christmas of my
adult life. Let me tell you
It might be the best
Christmas of your whole life. Yes
I don't know one Christmas. I got a
little Super Nintendo keychain. It was
like it was literally a Super Nintendo
Shaped but it was like this big and it
was on a keychain and
And you would push in on the the reset
button and it would
play the Super Mario theme
Super Mario Bros theme
Super Mario world theme
And I love that thing more than anything.
I had ever loved about my entire life. So
Don't tell Emily. I know
It's crazy man, I mean
We hear so much about gaming anymore
It's crazy that they would drop this $500
Bob when you know what the prices of
consoles have been going up. I know. Yeah
Maybe maybe they've got like a really
good deal with AMD or
something. Who knows?
Yeah, or maybe
Yeah, I hope so man AMD's
right now on top of the world
Mm-hmm, which is just which does kind of
have me concerned cuz like the last time
someone was on top was Intel and we know
How bad Intel shit the bed for like a
decade? Oh my gosh. Yeah, they're still
paying for they're
still paying for their sins
Yep, they are yes
Speaking of sins Nintendo
Oh
Just Nintendo no need
to elaborate further
But no many developers at Gamescom said
they weren't able to get
switched to dev kits still
How do we how do we
feel about that high-tech?
Well, I would imagine
Nintendo would want to
make as many of these dev kits as soon as
possible and get them out to as many
developers as possible to
get third-party support because
You know remember the last the remember
the last system that didn't get that
didn't get much third
party support with the Wii U
Yeah, yeah that all that I'm not gonna
say that nearly killed Nintendo, but that
was a bad that was a bad time
It it was definitely a
heavy blow for them for sure
Yes
What but what's interesting though is
that it seems like Nintendo are just
telling these developers to develop the
games for the switch one
and rely on backwards compatibility I
Mean that's not a great response from
Nintendo is it like that I mean
Especially with it all being through
basically a proton like abstraction layer
On a handheld. I mean I'm
saying this as a steam deck fan
with I
Don't know if it feels like there could
be optimizations that developers could do
for something like the switch to that
Nintendo's just not
Putting their money into the development
for third parties and that that could
spell disaster for them
I mean it the headline here says Nintendo
seems to almost be discouraging
switch to development and
If if I were a developer who had any
interest in developing for switch to I
would feel snubbed by this I
Feel like Nintendo
I think if this were Sony they would
probably dissuade you from making ps4
versions of a ps5 game
Yeah, the opposite right yeah,
you would think so right yeah
Like I get it
You can make a switch one game and it
works on switch yeah,
but the same time though
What if I want to make a game that
doesn't run while on the switch one?
What if they did this like CD project
right to release cyberpunk?
I'm a punk was one of the best-selling
switch to games because like it was a
graphical showcase of
what the switch could do
Mmm. Yeah, switch I mean yeah
My question is is this a
strategy from Nintendo?
Because they have such a
huge install base for the switch
That they are still making a ton of
money. Maybe even a
lion's share of their income on
The switch right like sales for software
on that so maybe they're trying to like
extend the life cycle of the switch one I
mean it makes
It makes sense. Yeah, I definitely I can
definitely see that because I mean yeah
the install base is there and
There and I mean come on they literally
raised the prices of the switch one.
There's no way they're not
There's no way they're gonna like stop
anytime soon. Yeah, I
mean there's a
There's an interesting
exchange between John and Oliver on
Digital foundry
John said Nintendo seems to almost just
to be almost discouraging switch to
development to some degree where I've
spoken with plenty of developers
Where they say they were either told that
their game they should just ship it on
switch one and rely on
backwards compatibility
There's a lot of developers who are
unable to get switch to dev kits
We talked to a lot of devs at games com
this year and so many of
them said the same thing
They want to ship on switch they would
love to do switch to
versions. They can't get the hardware
It's really difficult right now, and then
Oliver said I don't really understand the
strategy because like you said even now
Developers are struggling to get systems,
and I know that some months ago
When we're you know hearing things
Through the grapevine and talking to
people there were some
weird exclusions with
Some big developers struggling to get
kits for games from what I heard so
that's just crazy man like
there are some even triple-a
Even some triple-a studios that aren't
able to get developer kits for the switch
Man those are the people you really need
to get dev kits like ASAP. Yeah, yeah,
definitely. I mean I can
understand like prioritizing
certain devs over others right
especially if
Nintendo's having a hard time even
fulfilling the request
for filling the
demand I should say of the
switch in the public, but
They're not really having that issue
right like the stocks stock for the
switch has been more
or less there, right?
Right so and yeah and another thing is
that the switch has had a history of
third parties coming out much later
On the switch, and they would unlike the
PlayStation 4 right oh, yeah
Yeah, and so this is not gonna leave you
that issue either right?
Yeah
And then there's a comment here that says
the most Nintendo thing possible
I have to agree with it. Yeah, I
certainly agree, and
there's not like that
There's not like a chip shortage or
anything like that
right not that I'm aware
Yeah, so I can't think of a reason why
they aren't just meant
I I mean I remember Nintendo was
manufactured the hell out of switch 2's
to the point where I haven't heard
But like normally if like this remember
the switch one released and like people
couldn't find them at all
And they were scalped to hell and back
when they first released. Oh, yeah, I
heard nothing of the
sort for the switch same
I'm wondering if there's just
less demand for the switch I
Mean I can see it
I mean I'm seeing people online turning
against Mario Kart world despite that
trying to be I guess the
System seller right yeah
Like I've I saw like
a real like a glut of
Super Mario world
Videos like and it was like YouTube
shoving them down my throat and
Then suddenly nothing like I'm not seeing
and I you know I'm not in those circles,
so I don't know but like
It hasn't had the same
kind of impact that I remember
any
Switch game having like any first-party
switch game that even Mario Kart 8 which
itself was a re-release of a
Wii U game right I
Mean I played it. I have it. It's it's
Thankfully I didn't get thankfully I
didn't have to pay any
dollars for it, but uh I
Mean I don't know if I
would have paid $80 Adam. It's
It's a $50 fun video game, but I don't
know if it's an $80
fun video game, right?
Do you still play it even like you know
two or three months on?
No, no, no, I've I've
Shelled my switch to you. I took it
offline. I'm waiting for a hack to come
out for it nice smart. That's good
I was going to
My friend my friend bought a second
switch, and he's been like messaging me.
He's like still in the box
You can buy it now, and
I'm like I don't know man
I I can't justify spending that kind of
money on a system. I know I won't play
very often you know like
Why does he have a second
switch? He's trying to scalp it
I think he was anticipating there was
gonna be that shortage that he could like
profit from and he bought it and he's
Kind of I think he's regretting it now
Good let him live with
All right
Yeah, I I do I really would like to play
Mario Kart world, but I all from
everything I've seen I'm like it doesn't
really look that much
different or more fun or innovative
In fact a lot of the like novel things
about it. I've seen kind of turned me off
from it like wall riding and stuff
Grinding I'm not like I don't know well
doesn't make a lot of sense
to me for a Mario Kart game I
I kind of like those features, but
honestly unless you
unless you're like really like
Intimate with the map and that it's gonna
be hard to take advantage of like wall
riding and stuff hmm
Yeah, I love some maps like
specifically designed for it
I don't think there are too many of this,
but I haven't played a
whole lot of my car world
So maybe I'm just hmm. Maybe I'm just a
Mistaken hmm. I haven't even honestly
man. I haven't even gotten to read. I
haven't unlocked
rainbow road yet. Oh really?
Yeah, that's how little I've played of
it. I probably should play more of it
Boy, I don't feel like I
don't feel like it yeah
See here's the thing. It's like I am a
huge Mario Kart fan. I love Mario Kart
It's and I like I have
my switch like over here
And I haven't turned it on in ages
I've unlocked everything in Mario Kart 8
Deluxe like I mean they're
like the carts and everything
But like I don't I
haven't felt the need to go back
I never played online
like I'm not an online gamer
So I just like the big appeal of Mario
Kart world seems like playing online, and
I'm not interested in that so oh
Thankfully there is still split screen
like hmm. I brought yeah. I was visiting
my my brother's house
He has a lot of kids mm-hmm, and we all
of them work together, so I
set up my switch to played
No, it's a great time for them. Yeah
Awesome. I mean that's
so I mean that's still
Probably the best appeal just playing
with a bunch of kids hmm. Oh, yeah
Would be a lot of fun. Yeah, my nieces
and nephews of course of course
I didn't play there because I would just
I would totally demolish them right yeah
Yeah, it is what it is. It's a lot better
than what letting them
play robots all day for sure
Speaking of watching
people play video games
Streamers are apparently earning more
money playing games than devs make play
actually making the games
This is according to a
Japanese indie developer
Can you shed some light on this high tech
this sounds very unfair almost so
There are concerns from Japanese devs
that indie devs that uh
streamers make a lot more money
from
streaming games
Then you know the developers do
themselves which yeah, I agree is totally
unfair like you didn't make the game
You're just kind of playing
it and like okay, all right
I was gonna get to go to a rant about
react content, but I also think react
content is super lazy as well
Yeah, that's why I don't tend to do it
unless we're doing like a live stream of
like a special event yeah
Yeah, something like yeah the game
awards. I tried to avoid react content
unless I feel like I
can add something to it
So yeah for but for the most part yeah
reacting is pretty lazy
Yeah
That said there are I mean like
Some of it. I don't always agree some of
the discussions. I don't always agree
with like for example
Sometimes streamers can bring more money
to a game especially
like remember among us yeah
Yeah, among us was a small game
It made a little bit of money, but I
don't think it made that much money and
then it wasn't super popular until
Streamers got a hold
of that game, and yeah
That's that right yeah
But the same time though. I
don't think it's reasonable for
Streamers to make more money off of a
single stream of playing a
game than a developer would
Yeah, I mean it's tough because it's like
I can see I could see like
Not really a royalty, but like I could
see it feeling more fair if like
platforms like twitch or YouTube
Gave a cut of ad revenue to the
developer. I don't feel like it's fair
for it to come out of the
What the streamer is earning though right
like it should come out of the platform
and not the streamer
Yeah, but Amazon's not gonna do that
And it would turn to their precious
precious ad funds that
they're trying to shove down
Yeah, shove down at one's throats and
plus they are cutting money from the
streamers anyways. Yeah, they are
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like
as as a content creator. It's like if I
wanted to highlight a game
That game that I love or whatever it
It wouldn't make sense for me to have to
pay to highlight it right and that's why
and especially because
YouTube and twitch are
screwing over creators right now
It feels like it should be they should be
forced somehow to like
to for them to make the
Payments to developers, you know, yeah,
so there's a quote a little
bit further down on your screen
Now it says a famous
streamer played the game I made
But despite their streaming getting
hundreds of thousands of
views in just one night
They didn't include a link to to a game
They didn't include a link to a game to
my game of the video description and it
didn't have any
positive impact on the game
Sales they just got a free ride from my
game made a quick buck and that's it
Supposedly this quote-unquote live
streamer had two
million subs at the time. So
I mean
Did did they get a free ride though? I
mean like if they bought the game or if
the developer gave them a key
Like that's not really a free ride
But I don't know I can understand feeling
a little like it feels
unfair to the developer though
Well, I think if they gave him
a key then you should have to
At least provide a link, right? Yeah, I
would think yeah, I would think that too
I think it's just general courtesy
because I know a lot of people
And a lot of people are curious about
What games I play in
my own videos like I?
Usually label them, but I kind of forgot
to label some games. I played in a recent
Review I did for like a controller and I
had a ton of questions asking. Oh, what
game did they play at this timestamp?
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I always try. I
always try I forget sometimes
Yeah, you know the thing is one of the
things that I have found is like
There's a lot more incentive for me to
remember to put links to games
If I can like link to humble or another
site that has affiliate
Promotions, right? That makes sense. So
if if if you're worried about that
You know as a developer
Put your game on
humble put your game on GOG
give
The the streamers the incentive to link
to your game because then they can make
money from it if they have a huge
Following then they have an incentive to
be like hey use my affiliate link below
and buy the game you get a cut like it
That feels like the most fair way to do
this because then you know
If you make a shitty game that someone's
playing just to make fun of
Then you don't deserve to like make money
if your game is crap, you
know what I'm saying like
It but if you make a good game and the
streamer makes it appealing
to people for them to you know
And the streamer can make a little side
money from an affiliate link that that
seems like the virtuous cycle that
Many of us already benefit from you know
Yeah, also, it's in the game the
thumbnail the game they used. It's a let
these it's hilarious
That game right there, I know where it
is. It's called needy streamer overload
is hilarious. Oh, really?
yeah, so basically you
it's a stream it's like a
simulator sort of like streaming
simulator where you like raise a
you make a
girl, I'm a chant a streamer and
Oh my god
There's a lot of like different endings
and different like types of streams you
can do and like ways you can I think one
of them was like you
can turn them to like a
cult leader
Dude, it's awesome. It's so funny. You
need to check it out. Did okay? What's it
called needy streamer overload?
Nice, dude, it's it is insane though
Needy streamer. Yeah
But it's also like kind of
dark in many ways to yeah
Despite all the pastel pink, it's one of
those games. Yeah, I
like the kind of retro
vibe of the UI here
Interesting conspiracy theories that's oh
She's and she also
takes drugs to make her
Interesting that's going on my wish list
too. Oh, I'm not signed in
I'm on the browser, but yeah
You know
Nice 15 16 bucks that's not bad either
Well
Dude I don't know what else
about this story anything else
Nothing in particular
Just think it'd be interesting to talk
about because I mean some parts I agree
with some I don't agree with. Mm-hmm
Yeah, I mean, I would say some of... I'm
sympathetic to both sides of this as a
game developer and as a content creator.
And I think, like, on the one hand, it
makes sense. It's a little more fair. But
like I said, there's...
There are ways that aren't, you know,
bordering on extortion in order to get to
make revenue from your game.
And speaking of extortion, tariffs.
[laughs]
So postal services around the world...
That was a terrible segue. I was really
stretching for that one.
[laughs]
Postal services around the world are
suspending deliveries to the United
States because of tariffs.
And also they also removed a... They also
patched a rule out where you can ship
stuff that's worth
less than $800 for free.
Yeah, the de minimis rule.
Yes. And that was probably the backbone
of importing businesses in
America. Like Teemu, for example.
Yeah. I'm of two minds about it. Stuff
like Teemu, like the
absolute dregs, the cheapest.
I'm not gonna weep for Teemu, but I will
say that this is going to be even more
disruptive and even more inflationary.
I think Teemu has to live if we want a
market that doesn't
suck ass, to be honest.
I'm not a fan of it either, but I mean, I
know I made a video about Teemu a while
back, but like I said it
was, you get what you paid for.
Yeah.
Yeah, but anyways.
So many countries, see, service in 22
European countries, including the UK,
France, Germany, Italy, the big ones, has
suspended deliveries.
And it's not just Europeans, it's also
Asian countries as well. Australia, New
Zealand, Japan, South Korea,
Taiwan, and many more as well.
Wow.
Is this the end of importing cool stuff
from Japan to the US?
Dude, it could possibly be, yeah.
Oh no, I have to spend over
$800 for it to make sense.
Well, I mean, I think basically removing
the de minimis rule means that you have
to pay duties on anything, any good
that's coming in from abroad.
So what the de minimis rule was, I could
be wrong about this, but my understanding
is that if you bought something that cost
less than $800 or was
valued less than $800,
then it was essentially duty free, which
meant that you didn't have to pay taxes
or what's the word, not shipping and
handling taxes, import tariffs.
I don't know, something like that.
Anyway, but now, letters, according to
this, letters and personal gifts under
$100 will still
technically be exempt from tariffs.
But some services have suspended all US
postage of goods and others have
suspended postage to the US entirely.
What counts as a personal gift?
Like, you send something to your pen pal
in Korea or something like that?
I would imagine, or something that costs
less than $100 maybe.
What if I built a gaming PC and I just
declared it as under $100?
Well, that would
probably be against the law.
True that.
Yeah.
Man, I mean, it just goes to show how
entirely fragile stable democracies are.
Like, not to get too deep into the
politics, but I mean, all it takes is
like, you know, just a few little nudges
and some like, a lot of uncertainty.
And suddenly you can't receive mail from
your friends abroad.
You know, you can't ship packages.
You can't order things
from outside the country.
It's like, it just, it
boggles the mind, you know?
Ah, quite sub, man.
I mean, I don't know what to make of it
besides it's gonna mess everything up.
Things are gonna be more expensive again.
More expensive? Inflationary, right?
Inflationary?
Yeah, it's just, it's no good.
Consoles are gonna go up in price again.
Yep.
I don't know, man.
Scary times.
I don't know what else to say about that.
Lots of scary things
happening at once, man.
Yeah.
Speaking of uncertainty, the UK Online
Safety Act is now being applied on Steam.
Basically, Steam is now requiring any
users in the UK to verify their age.
How is this going down?
So, they're doing it in
a roundabout sort of way.
Because in the UK, you have to be 18 plus
to have a credit card, right?
So, rather than doing it themselves,
Valve did the smart thing and just made
it so that you had to have a
credit card on your account.
Therefore, making the credit card
companies the ones liable for
verifying your age and stuff.
So, basically, you need a credit card
with a valid credit card number, a CVV,
expiry date, and name
and billing address.
Interesting.
So, I guess they're not really trying to
validate that the person who's inputting
the name and the credit card information
is the same person on
the credit card, right?
Is that what they're not
really trying to verify that?
I don't think so.
In fact, I don't even think there's a
place to put your real name on your Steam
account, aside from your
billing address, right?
Right.
So, no, I don't think
they're not trying for real.
Yeah, this just seems like
they're trying to get around it.
Which, I mean, good for them.
Like, you know, this... it does not make
sense... I said this when
we talked about it before.
Like, it doesn't make sense to me that
the government can pass a law that
requires private companies to collect and
store even more private, you know,
personally identifiable information.
Like, that... it's a liability for the
companies to store that information.
And, like, if the government wants to do
this, then they should have to have their
own system that Steam or whoever can ping
against to validate your age and identity
and other credentials, you know?
Maybe this is the way
to do age verification.
I know we were discussing how the best
way to go about doing,
like, age verification stuff.
Maybe this is the best way, because, I
mean, banks kind of have to have their
information anyways to, like,
do any sort of banking, right?
They do. But I don't think there's an age
requirement in the U.S.
to have a credit card.
Yeah, that's true. This wouldn't really
work in the U.S. because, I mean, I
remember seeing people in, like, middle
and high school having their names on
credit cards, so, like...
Yeah, I know. They're
really spoiled, but, like...
Yeah, it makes sense, though, that this
wouldn't really work in the U.S.
Actually, you know what, though?
In order to access Steam store pages for
mature content games, you'll need to be
logged in to an active user account and
explicitly opt in through the account
settings page for U.K. users.
This opt-in process requires age
verification. Your U.K. Steam user
account is considered age verified for as
long as a valid credit
card is stored on the account.
But this is interesting because it's a
credit card, right? So, if you don't have
a credit card, then you can't access
mature content in the U.K.
That's what Valve is saying.
I guess so, yeah, I guess...
I mean, I'm curious if the U.S. has age
requirements for a credit card.
I think to actually open up your own
credit card account, you have to be of
age, but, like, if you have an account
and you want to, like, give your kid
access to that card with their name on
that card, then I think you can add your
kid as an authorized user.
But I don't think kids can actually open
their own credit cards, so to speak. So
it would still be under, like, their
parents' name and stuff.
True. Yeah, so the minimum age to open a
credit card as the primary account holder
is 18. So, okay. So that would work in
the U.S. if Steam wanted to do that.
Scroll down. I want to see this minimum
age to be an
authorized user on credit cards.
13. Okay.
So basically, half of the banks listed
here don't have a minimum age, so you
can, like, make a credit card for your
infant if you wanted to.
But if you want to use the good shit,
like American Express, then you've got to
be at least a teenager.
Yeah. Discover in U.S. bank also 15 and
16 years old, respectively. But then Bank
of America Capital One Chase, Citi, and
Wells Fargo have no age requirement.
That is interesting. You have to be 13 to
use your dad's MX black.
Also, Chase Sapphire Reserve has a $795
annual fee and charges an extra $195
annually for each additional card. Wow.
I don't know much about credit cards, to
be honest. I only have a few, but...
Yeah, I have, like, four. Two of them are
business cards. And I'll tell you, the
business ones were a
hassle to get set up.
What are they, MX?
One of them is Chase, Inc., which is
business, and I don't
remember what the other one is.
Oh.
But, yeah, like, I have, like, an $8,000
limit, credit limit on
the business one, which...
$8,000 doesn't sound like a whole lot.
No, it doesn't. But, and the crazy thing
is, dude, my credit score is, like, an
$840 or something. It's as high as...it's
almost as high as it can possibly get.
And they still, like, banks are
turn...like, turned me down for a loan
when I wanted to buy this house, even
though I had, like, an 800...at the time,
I think it was, like,
an 810 credit score.
I mean, that's self-employed.
Yeah, they don't trust self-employed
people. They just think
they're money laundering.
Yeah. Even though...dude, even though,
like, I have perfect credit,
it's insane. Anyway. Anyway.
So, but the fact is, so if you're in the
UK and you want to, like, play
mature-rated games on your Steam account,
or buy them, I guess, or see the store
content, you have to have a
credit card on file with Steam.
Even if you want to pay for your games
with a debit card, it seems
like you need a credit card.
I don't know. How do you feel about that?
What's stopping someone from either, A,
like, stealing their credit cards, or
just have it out on there?
Mm-hmm.
Or, B, using, like, one of those
services, like, privacy? You know what
I'm talking about, right?
Yeah. Well, I think privacy.com, I don't
think they issue, like, card numbers that
register as credit cards.
Oh, what do they
register as? Like, gift cards?
They register as...maybe gift cards,
maybe debit cards, but I don't think they
show up as credit. The
brink got back to us.
Oh, did he? What did he say?
He said, "Maybe, but my
wife definitely will."
Oh, no, his wife's definitely gonna drop
everything for Silksong.
Dude...
That's funny. I know, I
don't think Emily ever played...
I don't think Emily ever played Hollow
Knight, but I think she
would probably enjoy it.
Do you think she's gonna
drop everything for Silksong?
No.
I don't.
Not like so.
Not with that attitude.
I think she would enjoy
it, though. She likes, um...
She liked, um...what's the, um...
What's the one?
She...Hades. She likes Hades. They're
almost kinda similar, maybe.
What?
Those are not.
No, you don't think so?
They're...they're...they're
kinda similar.
They're kinda roguelike. I mean, well, I
guess not. I guess Hollow Knight can.
No, Hollow Knight's not roguelike. But
the only way they're similar is that they
probably run great on the Steam Deck.
That's true. That is true.
And, yeah, speaking of the Steam Deck...
Ooh.
PC Handpelt.
They're out of control.
More specifically, the
prices are out of control.
What, uh...what's up with
this? We've got some, uh...
crazy new handhelds? Or are they just old
ones getting increased?
Um, well, no. The only one that...the
only handheld that got an
actual increase was the Switch One.
Uh, but...
But, no, they're just talking about how
expensive the new ROG Xbox Ally X is.
Oh, I got that in one try.
Nice.
You forgot the Series
X...uh...X-Bone One.
Alright, but...
Yeah, so...basically...
anything that's not a Switch 2 or a Steam
Deck is incredibly steep in price.
Or a Switch One, for that matter.
And, I mean...
On one hand, I get it. It's kind of
expensive, but at the
same time, though...
Hand...PC Handpelt were never really
cheap to begin with.
Like, they were always at minimum, like,
$800 before the Steam Deck, at least.
Like, I remember seeing the I&EO in the
various GPD devices. They were inching
towards $1,000 even back then.
Yup. I remember when I bought my GPD Win
2...uh...on...um...what was it?
IndieGoGo? Is that right?
I think that was...
I think that was a yes.
GPD Win 2. I don't remember what I paid
for it. I think it was like $800, though.
Something...I think it was like $800.
And, uh...I remember being like, "That's
steep, but I really
want to play games on it."
Did you play games on it?
Uh...I...no. Not really. I didn't
like...it was not
very comfortable to hold.
Do you remember what
that thing looked like?
I know what it looks like. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. I never had one. But
yeah, I guess it makes sense.
I liked the form factor. I thought it was
nice. The...the analog
sticks were good-ish.
But I hated the little, uh, toggle switch
to switch between mouse and gamepad mode.
And, um...also, like, the triggers were
arranged in a very strange way.
You can see here, there's
three triggers on the back.
And, uh...this is the right bumper...or
the right, uh, analog stick click.
Right? Alright! They
didn't click back then. Yeah.
So...and then...and then this was...these
were, like, super tacky, like, um...like
a mouse click. You know?
Um...they just...nothing about it felt
super ergonomic. And then it would get
really hot on
the...where your left hand was.
It would get super hot. And so it just
wasn't good to play, uh, games on.
Um...but I installed Linux on it. And,
uh...I had fun with a
little handheld Linux machine.
And this was pre-steamed, right? Yeah,
this was definitely pre-steamed.
This was, like, around the time that the
switch came out, I think.
And it had an Intel Core M3 8100Y
processor. So...and it had Intel Iris
graphics, like...or
maybe it was pre-iris.
Like, it was before that. Um...
Intel...yeah, Intel UHD Graphics 615. So
you could really only play...like, uh,
indie side-scrollers and stuff, you know?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Despite them using
pictures of Dark Souls 3, you probably
couldn't play that that well.
No. I don't...I don't...I don't think I
ever tried that, but I
doubt that would work.
So I understand the article's
frustrations, but I don't necessarily
agree with the premise, because PC
handles have always been expensive.
The Steam Deck has always been a bit of
an outlier, to be honest.
Yeah. I mean, Valve can
afford to do it. Um... Yeah.
But can they... Most of the other, like,
vendors, like, PC handheld vendors are
pretty...are fairly boutique, right?
Like, it's not like they're doing high
volumes and selling
millions of units, right?
Yeah. Most of them are not Lenovo or
Asus, so they can't...they definitely
can't afford to do volume.
But even then, like...like, GPD...like,
the GP15...I think we talked
about this a few times already.
It looks like a really cool device, but I
can't imagine it being
less than, like, 1500 minimum.
Right. Yeah. It's, uh...I don't know.
I...it makes sense because
PC hardware is just expensive.
And with high-end...you're not only
contending with, like,
high-end APUs and stuff.
You're also contending with greater
engineering that has to go into it to
make sure that it's comfortable to hold.
Because, honestly, I haven't...since the
GPD Win 2, I haven't used a device that
has been that uncomfortable to hold in my
hand because of the heat, right?
And that requires engineering. It's not
just, like, they can slap a, you know, a
Ryzen 9 into the
machine and call it a day.
They have to design it with airflow in
mind and testing and
prototyping and stuff.
So, yeah, you're gonna end
up with a higher overhead.
And at lower volumes, you
get, you know, costs are higher.
So, it's never been super inexpensive for
them to make these things, but with...I
think Valve has kind of shifted the
perception of...and along
with the Switch 2, you know?
Or the Switch, I should say. The Switch 2
is overpriced. I don't know.
I think if the Steam Deck 2 is going to
be successful, they need to
have a hit of a $400 price point.
I get it. The big bad "T" word is making
everything more expensive, and it's
probably what's causing the ROG Xbox Ally
X Series SX to be, like, close to $1,000
instead of the MSRP of, like, $700 or
$800 with the original Ally X.
But, like, I think Valve has to hit it,
and I know...I'm sure Valve would be
willing to take a
slightly bigger hit on hardware.
Yeah, because, like, think about it. How
many games have you bought on Steam that
you haven't touched?
Dude, too many. How many games have I
bought on my Steam Deck intending to play
them without actually
playing them? Too many.
Yes. That's pure profit for Valve.
Yeah.
Like, they're not even spending
the...you're not even spending their
bandwidth to download the games. That's
how...it's pure profit, right?
Yeah.
Yeah. Pure profit for
Valve and the developers, too.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so I think Valve could certainly
afford to take a
bigger hit if they need to.
Yes.
Now, I'm sure there's a limit to it.
They're not just gonna give away free
Steam Deck 2s just so you can...in the
hopes that maybe someone will buy stuff
on Steam, but, like...
Yeah, I think if the PS6 rumors prove
true, I think Valve will have no choice
but to undercut it
by, like, $100 for sure.
If they want to compete, yeah.
Do it, Valve. I dare ya.
Do it.
But now...but anyways, what sort of
features do we want in a Steam Deck 2? I
don't think we've actually
talked about this on air.
Mm.
I really want expansion. Like, I want USB
4 where I can connect a discrete GPU when
I connect it to my TV.
I agree. USB 4 is a must. I understand
that it was...the Steam Deck was released
in a weird state where we didn't have
Thunderbolt 4 slash USB 4,
but, like, it's a thing now.
We did have it, but AMD didn't. Like, it
was on Intel CPUs, but not...
Yeah, that's...yeah.
Yeah. But now that we
have it, I think it's a must.
Yeah.
And I think Valve would be stupid not to
do it, quite frankly.
Yeah. I would like an official docking
station that has either expansion, like a
slot that you can expand, or it comes
with, like, a dedicated GPU built in.
But that's probably very niche, so I
don't know if they
would actually do it, but...
I think if they were gonna go that route,
I think they would just stick with one
GPU inside the dock and not have to worry
about, like, multiple different...
Instead of worrying about, like, having
an external GPU, like, Caddy where you
can stick your own, like, Nvidia GPU or
whatever, I think they're just gonna
focus on having, like, a 7600X or
whatever, XD or whatever to get in.
It really...I mean, it's easier to focus
on one subset of hardware, right?
Yeah. Absolutely. Um...I don't know, what
features would you want?
Ad hoc.
Dude, ad hoc, yes. Ugh.
So, for those who don't know, or maybe
are too young, the original DS, and the
3DS, and the PSP, and the Vita all have
the ability to play multiple games.
Yep.
Wirelessly, without the
need for, like, a router.
Mm-hmm.
And I've mentioned this a couple of times
online in various different places. Some
people call me stupid because they're
like, "Oh, you can just tell me you're
fun! Well, fuck you! How about that?"
Yeah.
So, here's the deal. You can technically
do ad hoc, right, on your Steam deck, but
you have to go into your desktop, like,
you have to drop out of Steam game mode,
you have to go to your desktop, set up an
ad hoc network, and then get all your
friends to join it, right?
It's not an easy or
good experience, right?
Yeah. See, you lost
me at leave game mode.
Right.
So, my idea for ad hoc would be, like,
kind of like how they did it
for, like, the PSP or the DS.
Yeah.
Where Valve could make an API, where they
could just, where you could just have
some sort of lobby
system, built-in lobby system.
Mm-hmm.
Because that's kind of how, like, all
these old ad hoc games worked.
Like, it would make a lobby and you'd,
like, join it if you
detected the lobby within.
Yes.
And, like, yeah, do it like that.
And then you could bring back, you could
bring back land gameplay.
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, that's how we
revive land game, land parties.
Yeah.
We just make some sort of ad hoc system.
Dude, it would be fairly
trivial for them to do, right?
Because, you know, the whole Linux stack,
really, all they'd have to do is add some
UI to maybe the quick access menu or
something to scan for, you know,
Steam ad hoc games.
And maybe, maybe the Wi-Fi hardware would
also have to support,
like, passive scanning.
Or probably not, actually.
It already can do passive scanning while
you're connected to a network.
So you just have to, like, have the API
for games to be able to, like, advertise,
"Hey, there's an ad hoc game going on."
I think the other thing that they would
have to do, though, is have
some level of download play.
So games, you know, could say, "Hey,
Steam, here are the files that you should
send over to other clients that don't
have a copy of the game already."
So that they could play, like, one little
demo level or whatever.
Mm, that could be interesting.
I could see that being a possibility for,
"Oh, yeah, just steal Nintendo's... Yeah,
just borrow Nintendo's ideas."
Yeah.
I mean, even the PSP
had download play, right?
They called it something
else, but it was the same thing.
Yeah, they had both ad hoc and some sort
of download play thingy.
Yeah.
Now, nah, nah, nah.
I know some people are gonna say that no
game's gonna support it, but I promise
you, there are developers out there that
would absolutely go
out of the way to do it.
I would support it.
Yeah, like, Gardener said he stopped
updating his game, but I'm sure he would
go back and make that a thing.
Absolutely.
And I think...
So it's called game
sharing on PSP, by the way.
Oh, yeah, I see it.
Yeah.
I don't think I've ever used that
feature, to be honest.
I don't know.
I didn't know very many people with PSPs,
but I knew a ton of people with DSes.
Yeah, me too.
I had a PSP, my cousin had one, but we
also both had DSes, and we...
Yeah, man.
The DS was a great time, man.
I think that might have been the...
Honestly, speaking of, like, portables,
I'm kind of sad that portable games kind
of sort of died out
as a category of games.
Like, you know what
I'm talking about, right?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
And for the audience, that might be a
little too young to remember, or maybe
they just don't remember, period.
There used to be a point in time where
games would be released on home consoles
and also on portable devices, but, you
know, the home console
games were, like, kind of,
what you expected, like, major AAA games
back then, but portable versions of those
games could be totally,
drastically different.
Like, entirely different games. Doesn't
play the same at all.
Yep. I mean, Perfect Dark, when it was
released on the N64, was a first-person
shooter, and then if you played it on...
Was it Game Boy? I think
it was Game Boy Advance.
Maybe, I think it might have been Game
Boy, even, like, Game Boy Color.
It was sort of like a top-down, Metal
Gear Solid-looking
game, but was sprite-based.
Mm. Yeah.
Yeah, like, I kind of
missed those sorts of games, too.
Yeah.
And, I mean, Pokémon was, like, the
epitome of a portable game.
Yeah.
And people didn't care about the graphics
back then, because, I mean, I mean, to be
fair, they looked a lot better back when
they were using the sprites.
Agreed.
But also, people didn't give a fuck
about, "Oh, how come this game doesn't
have, like, the best
graphics and whatnot?" Right?
Yeah. I mean, I do remember people were
upset in that, after playing Chrono
Trigger, they went and played Earthbound,
and Earthbound looked like...
I don't know. People said that the
graphics were not good in Earthbound, but
that's not handheld.
Yeah, that's not handheld. That was,
like, on the latest and
greatest, the Super Nintendo.
Right.
So, yeah, people don't remember this, but
even back then, people were super, like,
concerned with graphics and making things
look realistic back then, instead of it
being, like, a
specific style choice, right?
Right.
Like, I'm not saying Chrono
Trigger tried to look realistic.
Well, Chrono Trigger looked more like an
anime, and I think Earthbound looked more
like a Saturday morning cartoon, and
people didn't like the different style.
But the graphics were simpler in
Earthbound, for sure.
For sure, yes.
Greatest game ever,
by the way, Earthbound.
You know, speaking of which, I came
across an... I came across an Earthbound
museum, an exhibition
in Japan, in Shibuya.
Really?
Yeah, it cost 1,800 yen to get in, so I
didn't get in, nor did I have the time.
But it looked really cool, though. I can
send you some pictures of the... of it.
Dude, for sure.
Yeah.
It looked pretty cool, though. It was the
Mother Expo. They had Mother 1, 2, and 3
in there, too. Which, by the way,
Nintendo still never released in America.
Yep.
I'm just saying,
Nintendo. It's free money.
Dude, Mother 3... I...
Man. That game makes...
That's what...
That game moved me. Have you beat it?
I've actually never played Mother 3.
You've played Earthbound, though.
I've played Earthbound.
Have you beat it?
No, but I watched the ending on YouTube.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, dude, that spoils
it, because, dude,
that was the first game...
That Earthbound was the first game I ever
beat where the ending
brought me to tears.
Did I... Have I told this story before?
No.
Okay. So, I'm not gonna get into too many
spoilers, but, like...
At the end of the game, you're fighting
the final boss, and he's
absolutely kicking your ass.
And then... And then the scripted moment
happens in the battle, and it's the first
time there's a scripted
moment in the battle...
In the whole game. And it... I think you
probably know what I'm
talking about, high-tech.
Yeah.
The game sets it up earlier by, like,
surreptitiously collecting information.
And then it uses that information it
collected about you to, like, hit you in
the fucking face with
emotion, and you're like...
"Oh my god!"
Like, dude, I get goosebumps just
thinking about it. It's so moving.
And I was probably 9 or 10 when I played
it and beat it, and I was like, "I can't
believe that just happened."
And I was like, "Wow."
Yeah. Anyway, it's so beautiful.
And Mother 3 is also great.
Doesn't kind of have that same, like,
"wow" moment at the end,
but it's still really great.
Maybe I should go
back and beat Earthbound.
Yeah, man. I recommend it.
Yeah. I mean... I
think maybe one day I will.
But in the meantime, though, Nintendo
should re-release Mother 3.
I haven't played Earthbound 1. I mean,
Mother 1, which was on the NES.
Yeah, to be fair, I haven't either. It's
a little too dated for my taste.
I don't know.
But you must. You're
a huge Earthbound fan.
Earthbound, specifically.
What would they call Mother 3 if they
brought it here? Because they certainly
wouldn't call it Mother anything.
They did actually release Earthbound or
Mother 1, and I believe they called it
Earthbound Beginnings.
And they released it on...
But I meant Mother 3, specifically.
If they brought Mother 3, yeah.
What would they call that?
Earthbound 2, perhaps.
Earthbound 2?
Yeah. I mean, it kind of makes sense.
Yeah. Or Earthbound Picky's Revenge or
something like that.
Or would it be Pokey? It's hard to... I
don't know. Time to keep track.
I sure do miss handheld
games, man. I know the indies...
Yeah, I know the indies
kind of took up that spot.
Yeah.
But remember when the big AAA developers
also made these smaller-scale games?
Dude, I do. I remember very clearly. I
mean, even something like Donkey Kong
Country on the Game Boy Color was crazy.
Do you remember that?
Did you ever play that?
That I half-played, actually, yeah.
Yeah. It's like, they did the
pre-rendered graphics, but
with a much limited color set.
Or a bit of color depth, whatever. But
yeah, it was... I remember being very
shocked when I saw that.
Yeah. I think some of the best
games that I've ever played...
Well, some of my favorite games were Game
Boy Advance games, too.
Yeah.
Like, have you played Mega Man Zero?
No.
Dude, you need to play it, man. It's like
a hardcore, like, 2D action platformer.
Like, you know what Mega Man is, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like, imagine that, but
like amp it up to like 11.
Oh, really?
It's so fucking awesome.
Nice.
You need to play it.
The Zero ZX Collection is on Steam, by
the way, so they
brought those games forward.
Yeah.
Oh, dude, what was the one I was playing
the other night? I was on stream and
like, someone was like,
"You need to play this."
Is it an indie game?
Or like a triple A game?
It's an indie style game
kind of in the vein of Mega Man.
I think you might have told me about it,
too. But I don't remember.
There's a lot of those, because I play a
lot of like vaguely...
Alright, like, okay.
Don't get me started on what Capcom is
doing with Mega Man.
Oh, no.
Which is nothing.
Yeah.
Where's my purchase
history? I just bought it.
Purchase history.
Purchase history, right here.
20XX.
20XX is awesome.
It's like Mega Man X, but a roguelike.
Yeah. It's pretty fun.
I enjoyed it quite a bit.
They also made a sequel called 30XX.
Oh, really?
Which is the same
thing, but like different.
It also has a lot better pixel art,
because 20XX kind of has
its charm with its art style.
But 30XX just looks
much better in comparison.
It actually looks like one
of the old PS1 Mega Man games.
Oh, cool.
Mega Man X games.
As a huge Homestar Runner fan, I don't
know why I pronounced it
20XX, because it should be 20XDX.
Oh, man.
Dude, there's more Melee fans out there.
You know the Melee meme?
Which I know a few. Which one?
The one where it's like the year is 20XX.
Fox only.
Final destination.
And it turns out to be a coin flip of
whoever wins, because it's assumed that
the first player always wins.
Because of Port Priority
or some bullshit like that.
Yeah.
Oh, that's funny.
20XDX.
Homestar Runner is my favorite thing.
I did watch a little bit of that one.
I was getting like
Strong Bad's emails probably.
Yeah.
Did you see the one where
the Japanese cartoon email?
I think I did, but I
didn't get it at the time.
Yeah.
I think I kind of get it now.
Yeah.
I don't think I got it at the time
either, but it was like Homestar, but in
the Japanese cartoon style.
It's always like, "What
are you talking about?"
20XDX.
And he has like blue
hair on over his mask.
Yeah.
I don't get talking about it.
Oh man, it's so funny.
I love Homestar Runner. I
could talk about it for ages.
But speaking of our favorite games of all
time, because we were
just talking about that.
Roblox.
Is not my favorite game.
Roblox is my favorite game to hate.
So Roblox just smashed their concurrent
user record thanks to a
war between two games.
I don't know the first thing about Roblox
except it's cruel and unusual punishment.
Tell me what's going on here.
So it's more accurate to describe Roblox
as a platform because it's a user
generated hellscape for the most part.
And I don't know jack squat about what
these games are to be honest.
Mm hmm.
Grow a garden and steal a brain rot.
But the important thing is it has more
users and steam than all of steam.
Which is crazy to me.
I did not know that fact and it has made
me lose a little faith in humanity.
It's mostly kids though to be honest.
Yeah.
This reminds me, I saw a post on Twitter
like a few weeks ago talking about what
happens if I lose access to Roblox and
then everyone was just
like play a real game.
Yeah.
I like like Roblox.
I played a little Roblox with my nieces
because that's like the game they play.
And they like to do like little like mini
games like hobbies and whatnot.
But like a lot of Roblox games are just
ripoffs of like existing games.
Like they have Roblox Counter Strike
where it's made to like
emulate the feel of counter.
Like there's a bunch of people that have
the talent to make actual games.
Yeah.
They just make games and Roblox.
Like I promise you if you can make an
action if you can make a game in Roblox
you would make a lot
more money probably out.
I don't know if that's necessarily true.
Now that I think about it.
Yeah.
I know Roblox takes like 80 percent of
the cut which is which is
an insane exploitation man.
That's capitalism.
Dude, Rob, everything about Roblox sucks.
And then it's just a bunch of people
trying to charge up the ass for like
advantages to their game.
Like these are just regular.
These are people implementing
microtransactions in their
games in the form of Robux.
Yeah.
Everything about Roblox is
just not great in my opinion.
The games are mediocre at best.
I don't think I've played it.
I don't think I don't think there's a
single super good experience that
requires you to download Roblox.
I mean some people say Fortnite is kind
of the same way but at least Fortnite is
actually pretty fun sometimes.
Is it?
I've never I've never given it a try.
I mean it depends.
But Fortnite does have
Guitar Hero in it now built in.
What?
Yeah, it's called Fortnite Festival.
Okay, that's crazy.
I didn't know.
Oh no, they bought harmonics.
That's right.
Yeah, so it's literally
Guitar Hero in Fortnite.
Wow.
Oh shit, now you have an
excuse to have Fortnite.
Well, I don't play games on any platform
that actually supports Fortnite.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Linux sells the Fortnite.
Yeah, well, they don't
support Linux, but yeah.
Right.
Oh my god.
So this Roblox war, this is because
there's two games that are basically
going viral on Roblox.
And competing against each other to see
who can have the most games.
So Grow a Garden had 22
million concurrent players.
I think that's more than any
game on Steam has ever had.
That's insane.
Well, actually, let me double check that.
The top records on Steam are as follows.
PUBG with a staggering 3,236,027 players.
The green mine is the most?
Yes, for a single game on Steam.
Wow.
PUBG, and then we have Blacksmith Wukong
at a 2.4 million, and then
Power World at a 2.1 million.
Wow.
Now, I was rooting for Power World to
beat PUBG because, like,
yeah, but that's PUBG, right?
Yeah.
That's wild, dude.
So one game on Roblox had basically, not
really an order of magnitude, I guess,
but like 20 million more players than the
most played game ever on Steam.
Yes.
In terms of concurrent users.
So let me add all these numbers up for
you and tell you just how bad shit got.
So let's just do 3.2 plus 2.4 plus 2.1
plus 1.8 plus 1.3 plus...
Yeah, I mean, it's more than the top 10
games combined on Steam.
That's absolutely wild.
Steel of Brainrot is not more than... is
that 15 million, which is still a lot
more than most of the games combined, but
not nearly as much as Grow a Garden.
What is Grow a Garden?
And now we gotta see what
makes this... what even is this?
So it's like Farmville, right?
It kinda looks like that, yeah.
What? It's a clicker
game? It's a clicker game?
You're kidding.
Maybe that's why it's...
So yeah, so it says it's
essentially a clicker game.
You buy plants, wait for them to grow,
sell them, and then repeat the process,
buying bigger and
better plants as you go.
Plants grow offline, so players are
incentivized to get their garden all set
up and log back in each day to harvest.
Wait, so the plants grow offline? Why are
there 22 million
people on at the same time?
I don't... I don't
understand. I am very confused by this.
I think we are officially boomers, dude.
Dude, some kids are gonna come here and
be like, "Okay, boomer." And
then that's just gonna be that.
I think it should give our listeners
confidence, though, that we don't play.
Roblox, and we have no idea
why this would be popular.
I wish James were here. He'd make some
snarky remarks on Roblox.
Yeah. Yikes.
Dude, this is just
bananas to me. I can't...
That just shows you, like, if he made a
browser-based clicker game, it would
probably do really well.
Damn. Why don't you do that, Gardiner?
Why don't I do that?
You can call it the heavy element, and
then you invest in different elements,
starting with Hydrogen,
and then you go all the way up to...
The ones that don't have official names
yet, like Une, Uub, or whatever.
Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, you
definitely... What if you called it
"click a star" and you have to create a
star that forges specific elements?
That would be kinda neat.
Gardiner, you don't have to do it.
What?
Make it happen. You gotta make it happen.
Okay.
But anyway, this is insane.
Yeah. I can't believe this.
Whatever. I mean, teach their own, yeah.
But in addition to this, Roblox also made
a significant change to
their mature content policy.
Mm-hmm.
So, what I don't understand is why Roblox
even has mature content to begin with.
Yeah, no, that doesn't make
a whole lot of sense to me.
Yeah, like Fortnite, I don't believe has
mature content the same way, you know,
like, the same way fucking Roblox does.
Mm-hmm.
So, I also find it really weird that they
restricted their mature content behind 17
plus as opposed to 18 plus.
Um, I have a hot take that I'm just not
gonna share, but I think there's some
real corruption at the
top of Roblox company.
I think so too. Were you there that week
when we talked about how
Roblox banned a guy named Shlep?
Yeah, I don't think I was there for that.
Yeah, so do you know
anything about this story at all?
I've seen some coverage
of it, but not a whole lot.
So, essentially, Shlep was a hunt, was a
PDF, not PDF hunter.
But I hate saying that for like
self-censoring on YouTube.
Yeah.
It's bullshit.
He was a predator hunter on Roblox who
would, you know, and he worked with
authorities and he got a couple of
successful arrests, right?
Mm-hmm.
But they banned him and they sent a cease
and desist. They
threatened legal action against him.
Which is terrible because apparently it's
more than just doing content. It's like
personal for him because apparently he
himself was a victim on Roblox.
Yeah. I mean, I was gonna say like it
probably isn't that difficult to find out
these predators, you know?
Yeah. And so, but rather than Roblox
doing the right thing,
they instead decided to fucking, they
instead they decided to like sue him.
Legally threatening him. And this has
caused a cascade of like terrible things
happening to Roblox.
For example, Chris Hansen is
investigating them with Shlep too.
And I think this is in response to that
because they definitely wouldn't have
done this change otherwise.
Right.
Yeah. So starting today. This
is what the announcement says.
Starting today, users under the age of 18
will no longer see search results or
recommendations for experiences with
restricted content maturity labels.
Reasonable minds must inquire why was
this not the case before?
This change will decrease the visibility
of content that may not be age
appropriate for younger audiences.
Holy crap. My blood is boiling. Later
this year, access to experiences with
restricted content maturity labels will
be completely blocked for all users under
the age of 18 and increase,
an increase from the
current 17 plus requirement.
Please refer to our restricted content
policy for more information on what is
permitted in these experiences.
Hi, can you explain to me why mature
content was being advertised in search
results to children?
Don't ask me, man. Ask the Roblox CEO.
Well, so I will say that it's genius on
their part because kids always want to
access things that they know they
shouldn't be accessing. Right.
But also it is highly wrong. It is like
the the the the height of
villainy to do that. Right.
Like it's genius in an evil genius kind
of way. And so I'm you know, as if I
needed a reason before to hate Roblox.
Like I didn't even understand that they
were advertising. Yeah.
This is content. Yeah.
Yeah. Like this, I actually was not aware
of at all, to be honest. I don't know,
Jack Squad about Roblox.
Even Steam, which is like literally laden
with adult content everywhere, requires
it to be like opt in.
Like you have to go out of your way to
enable that shit. Right.
This is so this is enabled by default for
anyone that just joins Roblox.
What I don't understand is why they
couldn't just access restrict access to
this restricted stuff immediately instead
of having it be later this year.
Yeah. That bothers the mind. I don't I
also don't understand why it's
it was 17 plus to begin with.
Oh, I think I get it. Why now? I think
it's because they were trying to follow
like the ESRB standard of like M rated
games being 17 plus instead of 18 plus.
That is the weakest cop out. That
probably is. Yeah. But it's the only
explanation I can actually think of. Oh,
which begs the question. Why? Why are M
rated games 17 plus instead of 18 plus?
Why do we have a separate
category for that altogether?
Well, so a lot of when it comes to like
ESRB ratings, my understanding is that
there was a lot of pressure from
retailers. They didn't want a they didn't
they wanted like an adult only category
and they didn't want that to be like
confused with mature ratings.
I believe that's the answer, but I don't know for sure.
Well, that sounds kind of stupid. Yeah, I
guess whatever the ESRB stupid anyways.
Yeah, it's it's super corrupt as well.
The essay as a whole is a corrupt as
well. Everything is corrupt to be honest.
Oh, dude. We yeah, we
live in the dumbest timeline.
But yeah, I mean, so it says here that you need an ID, a government issued ID.
Which is a little bit of a step up from
what steam is doing, which is just having
a credit card on file. Yeah. Do we think
it's better or worse having a government
ID? I mean, like, look, if you have a government ID, if you have a credit card, like if they're not doing anything to actually verify, like, you know, they're not doing anything to verify.
Like, look, if you have a government ID,
if you have a credit card, like if
they're not doing anything to actually
verify that the that the person
submitting it is the person who you know,
those things belong to, then it's kind of
a moot point, right? Like a kid could
just, you know, take it snap a picture of
their mom's credit ID.
And if they're not verifying it, I don't
know if they are not. But like, I don't
know, it feels like the absolute minimum
they could be doing. So I don't know.
What do you think about it?
I think that's still I think it's a fair
point. I think they do have to ensure
that these IDs are they belong to the
person that they the people that claim
who they are. And I think
credit cards are, they're not.
Are decent way of doing that. But at the
same time, though, yeah, I mean, kids
steal credit cards all the time. Like, I
remember hearing this a couple years ago,
many years ago about how MapleStory was
causing kids to steal their parents
credit cards to buy all the cool shit.
So like, what's the I think, but to be
fair, though, I think really, you should
really be locking that up and preventing
your kids from getting access to the
begin with, I think at the very least,
you can, you know, be a good parent.
Yeah.
Because I think you because I think if
they're at the point where they're
stealing credit cards or like your IDs or
whatever, then I think you have a much
bigger problem than
accessing adult content and Roblox.
Yeah, I mean, if dude, if you're if the
there is a measure of personal
responsibility and like parental
responsibility. But like these games,
these platforms are designed to be as
addictive as they possibly can be.
They're taking their cues from from
casinos, right? Like, they literally are
hiring psychologists and even steam is
guilty of this. They're hiring
psychologists to to maximize platform
growth and revenue, you know.
So, you know, I think it's a bit of a
misdirection to say that, like, it's only
on parents to, you know, make sure that
they're locking up their
their credit card in the safe.
That's that's just it's on these
platforms who are making these addictive
experiences and making them available,
not even make them
available, targeting children. Right.
Yeah, it needs to be further regulation
that, you know, frankly, Roblox should
not exist, in my opinion. I know that's
probably a hot take, but it's just it's
it's so clearly evil. It does not have a
right to exist in this world.
You know, what's crazy is that Roblox has
existed for like 20 plus years at this
point already. 20 years. Yeah, Roblox is
old, man. Wow. Let me see
how old it is, actually.
But it's been around for a pretty long
time. 2004. Oh, my God. Released to the
public in 2006. I think it was an open
beta or like beta in 2004
or something like that. Wow.
But it's over 20 years old. It's older
than most of the kit, most of the player
base. Yeah, that's wild. I didn't even
realize that. Yeah, I think it's only
blown up in recent times, to be honest.
But I don't know. If I had to guess, it's
probably covid. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, I'd imagine. I don't know. God
damn it, Roblox. Why do you have to be
this way? You could have just existed. If
you just didn't allow user generated
adult content on there, you could have
just existed fine. Yeah.
Dude, it just it's a platform that is
designed for kids and it has literally
zero business having 18 plus content on
it, like at all. And the CEO, we talked
about this a couple of times. Remember
the CEO was talking some bullshit about
making a dating platform on Roblox? Yeah.
What the fuck? I didn't know it was legal
to create PDF file dating apps. Only on
Roblox, apparently. Yeah. Oh, my gosh,
dude. So it makes me sick when I think
about it, man. Anyway. Yeah. So you mind
scrolling down? Yeah. Is there more
stuff? Let's read the
comments. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Finally, the 17 plus thing was odd. I
felt like and I felt like a carried
subtext. Yeah. Kind of sad since a lot of
these games were great and I turned 17 a
few months ago. Now I got to wait longer.
Maybe there should be a 16 plus options.
A lot of these games could be ID
verification 16 plus
ID verification 16 plus.
Dude, no, dude, imagine being 16 years
old and being like, Mom, can we go get me
an ID? I mean, some of them might have
driver's license, to be honest. I mean, I
had one before I was 18. I was 17 when I
got my license. But I mean, just imagine
like a teenager asking to get
a light ID, like the C unreal.
I feel I see. I feel like at this point,
there's no need to double down on your
stances any further. I fully understand
Roblox thinks that their community
standards are being applied, but they
aren't. I love improvements moderation,
but you need to listen to your community.
What when they actually do work, the work
of finding and I said, W content instead
of trusting your own broken systems and
banning those vigilantes. So apparently
Roblox's own community standards
prohibits sexual content
of any kind period. Yeah.
Yeah. So the mature content should be
like blood gore horror, which I mean,
isn't great for kids either. Right. But
like, I have heard stories about like
certain games on the platform, like, you
know, bathroom simulator or something.
And it's like, Epstein, Epstein Island.
Oh, I haven't heard of that. Is that on
there? There's something there's I've
definitely heard of an Epstein game on
Roblox. Oh, my God. Yeah, of course.
Dude. But yeah, I mean, I everything I've
heard about Roblox, like, is that it's
just it's, you know, there are certain
games that are not that are innocent. I
would, I should say. But like the
prevailing meme about
Roblox is that it's it's just.
Sexual content targeting kids. It's.
Yeah. Pull up. Pull up this court. I sent
you an image of what the game of like the
various types of games you can find.
Just escape to Epstein. I'll pull put it
on the screen. Yeah. Escape to Epstein
Island. Diddy Party. Oh, no, dude. Dude.
Okay. I don't think we've talked about
any of this stuff. Yeah. Look at that.
Nice try. Diddy. Diddy Party VC. Child
Labor Tycoon three freaky Diddy
something. Survive Diddy. No.
Look how many Diddy games there are. What
the fuck? I'm sure some of these are like
parodies like, oh, you're trying to run
away from Diddy. But like, that's not
appropriate for kids to play either.
Given that Diddy is a monster in real
life. No. And monster that
also got away with it, too. Yeah.
I love this image, though, because it's
got these creepy things and then it has
Roblox gift cards. I think I think I took
this from a news article.
Yeah. It's just dude. I don't know. I
don't I don't like this platform. I think
it should go away. It's user generated.
It's a user generated hellscape. I will I
will tell you that. Speaking of which, I
think user I mean, this is gonna sound a
hot take, but I think most user generated
content kind of sucks in
these sorts of games. Yeah.
Like even like something a lot more
restrictive like Mario Mario Maker. Most
of the levels just kind of suck. Yeah.
And the ones and the ones that people
really want to play are the stupid
fucking Kaiser Mario levels. You know the
types, right? Oh, yeah. I am familiar.
No one wants like listen, most people
don't want to play fucking Washi. Is that
even true? Do most people not want to
play Kaiser Mario levels? Because they
seem like the most popular ones.
I know I'm not that target demographic,
but there are people who do want to play.
Yeah, I'm not that target either. Also,
another game just recently got announced.
Not a game, but an existing game
announced that they're allowing user
generated content as well.
Genshin Impact. Oh, really? It's becoming
a user generated hellscape. Okay. Yeah.
There's a trailer. There's a trailer out
for it too. You want to watch it? Yeah.
Hold on. Let me let me
find out what it's called.
Let me link it to you actually there.
There we go.
It's on discord.
I find it interesting that games are
pivoting towards being user generated
content. Yeah, even like a gacha game
like this. That's like insanely
profitable. Yeah. Well, why wouldn't
they? I mean, they could monetize it
again or it, you
know, it gets overcooked.
I was about to say it. I looked like
familiar and tower defense, you know.
So here's the question. Are the Chinese
going to be a little more strict about
adult content on this user generated
Genshin space? I would be surprised if
they allow UGC on like the Chinese servers. Will they? I don't know. But I mean, it makes sense. It makes sense for
them to allow it in the US because, you
know, they can make the game more
addictive that way. Yeah. More time sink. The other question though is will they allow will they allow mature quote unquote mature content? Probably not, right? I mean, I would say that's a good question.
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if they do
in the US. God damn it. Yeah. I don't know what to make of this besides it exists.
Yep. I'm not a fan. I'll say that. I
might try it out just for shits and
giggles because a lot of my audience is
interested in Genshin impact on the steam
deck. Yeah. It's still some of my most
popular content for steam deck stuff. So
I guess I'll have to give it a try.
But in the meantime, though, don't don't
let your kids play roblox. No, and don't
play roblox yourself. If so, here's the
deal. If you're the target audience for
roblox, you should not play it. And if
you and if you're not the target audience
for roblox, you should not play it
because you're a creep.
Because you're a creep. It's just don't
let your kids drag. Don't let your kids
or like nieces nephews of dragging and
playing roblox because it's also not that
fun to be honest. No. Well, dude, here's
the thing. I said this in my news video.
Like, it's one thing if you're playing it
with your own kids or your family, right?
That's whatever. But like, in it. So in
my most recent news video, I had to
address the fact that I'm on the record
saying that I just don't
like online multi-party.
Player games. And the reason I don't like
online online multiplayer games is
because, you know, most of them, if
they're like, mostly online multiplayer,
like Fortnite, they're just not fun,
right? Like, the only reason you're
having fun is because you're playing with
your friends, you know, like, at least
for me, that's how it seems. And so it's
like, you know, with
with Domekeeper adding.
Multiplayer, right? Like online
multiplayer and split screen. The reason
that I'm excited about that is because
the game's already extremely fun on its
own, right? And then you add on playing
with your friends. And that brings it to
a whole other level. And it feels like a
natural extension of the gameplay. But
like, when a game requires you to be
playing against other people, it just
that just takes all the
fun out of it for me. So.
So you're not gonna be
playing the Domekeeper PVP?
Oh, I'll put out. I don't. Does it have
PVP? I thought it was PVE.
Let me see. I think I think
it was both. But let me check.
I think it could be both. But I will be
I'll play it no matter which way. Like,
because I'll be playing it with like you
and James, probably. But like the game's
already fun by itself. Right? Like,
that's the whole point is like the game
is fun. And then I can add on to my I can
extend my fun by playing with other
people. And like, it was
like that with Minecraft, too.
It was like, I started playing Minecraft.
And this was before they had really
figured out networking in Minecraft. And
I was like, you know, what would be
really fun is to be able to do this with
my friends. And then when they added it,
I was like, Oh, here we go. This
actually, you know, is really fun.
But other than Minecraft and and like,
and Spelunky and games that have, you
know, that are innately single player.
Yeah, once you add your friends in and
you've already been having fun as a
single player experience. That's when
playing online games makes sense to me.
I don't keep it does have it's not like
direct PvP, where you fight each other,
of course. But also you're competing for
the same resources and just end up
playing tug of war with the resources,
like literally to it. It looks awesome.
Yeah, that's very it's super exciting for
me. So yeah, play Domekeeper. Don't play
Roblox. Yeah, that's kind of a shitty
moral of the story. But yeah, but I mean,
you know, with that, I, we're, I think, we're, I think, we're going to be doing a lot of stuff.
We're actually just at about two hours
here. So that's been a heck of an
episode. Kind of gone all over the place
with the news stories this week.
Yeah, but I mean, it's kind of a slow
week. It's the it's the calm before the
storm. That's a song.
Yep. And things are start are gonna start
picking up pretty soon here with like
Christmas and you know,
the holiday season for sure.
Oh, yes, absolutely. We're gonna be
hearing a lot. I think quarter three is
about to end right like it
ends in September, right?
Yeah, I believe so.
So we'll be hearing a lot of earnings
calls and like investor like information,
all that cool stuff.
Yeah, so I mean, I'm not sure what to
make of it besides stay safe, everyone.
Yeah, don't go on Roblox.
Yeah. And you know what? Enjoy the
weather while it still lasts because the
leaves are already falling here.
Oh, are they? Oh, yeah. Oh, that sounds
pretty cool. Yeah, enjoy. Yeah. Enjoy the
weather while it lasts too. Yeah.
Do anything but Roblox. Heck, you can
even play the like, user generated
Genshin Hellscape if you wanted to.
Yeah. Also has the same problem. I won't
judge you for playing
Genshin art. You see?
Genshin, you see? Cool. Anyways, yeah.
Well, hey, thank you. Hi, tech for being
here. You know, we will definitely have
James back next week, I think.
And another special someone to assuming
things go for no spoilers. No spoilers.
But yeah, I'm excited about next week.
And thanks to everyone out there for
watching. We appreciate it. Again, make
sure you get subscribed to the YouTube
channel. And with
that, have a great week.
All right. You too, man.
All right. See you. See you.