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Welcome to Off the Console.

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It's your favorite show.

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That's all about tech news and gaming and everything nerdy.

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My name is Gardner and I am joined today by my friend HiTech.

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How's it going, HiTech?

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Doing all right, how about you?

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I'm doing fantastic.

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I'm getting over a cold.

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Today's the first day that I haven't been totally congested.

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so I feel pretty frickin' good.

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I got back to doing yoga this morning, which I hadn't done in like almost a week 'cause I
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How are you doing?

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I've been doing a I've been doing alright.

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I passed my ~ Compt exam.

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Another one.

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Thank you, thank you.

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So yeah,

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all things good.

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That's awesome.

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Dude, we have ~ a good show for you guys today.

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We're talking about the the biggest news this week, I think, was ~ Epic Games announcing
the Epic Stories coming to Linux.

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And Fortnite is coming along with it at some point soon.

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We'll talk about that.

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We're also gonna be talking about ~

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Let's see, the GTA six coming to PC in quarter one of twenty twenty seven.

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We're gonna be talking about indie developers saying they're not releasing demos anymore
because they're concerned about e ~ AI decompilations and a lot more.

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~ yeah, but we like to start the show out talking about the the fun things that we've done
this week.

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~ high tech, what have you been up to?

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Mm, well I've been living life in VR like half the time.

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~ half of my free time has been in VR.

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Playing

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Bone Lab I mean Bone Works.

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I would have gotten Half Life Alex if not for the fact that if I were to get a frame and
get Alex, I wouldn't be giving a getting a refund.

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Yeah, that is that's fair.

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unless I so unless I'm like for sure not getting the frame Yeah, which I'm probably will
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I've this isn't on the topic, but I've heard they're making a steam frame OLED.

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Really.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Have you heard about that?

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It's very if you look at sadly it's Bradley's ~ Twitter.

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They're talking about it.

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Interesting.

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~ Steam I'm looking it up now.

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Steam frame.

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I can't type right now.

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OLED.

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You should share your screen if you want to do that.

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yeah, my screen isn't being shared right now.

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Cool.

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did share it yeah, don't worry, you shared it during the bonus though, so it's all good.

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Yeah, skip the YouTubers.

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Fuck those guys.

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~ Sadly.

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It's Bradley.

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I don't know if I have

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I don't know if I'm being logged into X.

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I am.

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Lame.

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I don't I'm not seeing

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here we go.

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Another thing the fouviated

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Deck plano.

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Is it could me?

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panel?

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Is that what they're calling it?

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~ probably.

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~ like I I would like to just have a steam frame in my hands.

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I don't I don't know.

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The OLEDs are less bright and they have more like persistence of ~ image problems than
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I I'm curious.

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~ what what do you think about that?

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OLED's really frickin' nice looking though, especially with the call the colors, the
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It it's hard to beat.

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But a good OLED is just hard to beat, man.

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I mean I might be spoiled by the Pi Max Dream Air that I have that they sent

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over.

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Which by the way, I'm frickin' liking it.

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I gotta make a video on it at some point.

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I just gotta figure out how to record in VR, that's the thing.

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If I can't figure out how to do that, I don't know how I'm gonna record the video.

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So what I've done before is you go into Steam VR and enable the preview, ~ the the ~ the
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That's a smart smart thinking.

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Also, for whatever reason, when I use Steam when I do SteamOS, I mean I'm not SteamOS
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I try to like pull up my desktop, it just doesn't work.

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Like I can't see the desktop at all.

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It's some bullshit.

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I don't know.

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a permission missing or something?

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my one issue.

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Well, dude, we should do a VR thing with the three of us at some point because that would
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r iron out the kinks of PC VR since my experience with VR is quite limited.

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Yeah, I have an index, but my experience is fairly limited too.

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I haven't really explored it a lot.

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It was mostly a Beat Saber and Half Life Alex machine.

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Beatsaber and Half Aphalyx.

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~ that's another game I don't have.

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Beatsaber.

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you gotta get Beatsaber and if you want some really fun songs, download the Cold Play DLC.

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It's like they're so much fun to play those songs.

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try I gotta try it out.

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Yeah, you're right though.

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So I what I've been up to this week, I have been hard at work.

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I we released ~ five ~ articles this week, I believe, on the Bryant Review.

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And ~ I was like screwing around with my ~ AYN Thor, and that's been pretty cool.

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~ not r I've just been emulating stuff on it.

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It's trying some PlayStation 2 emulation.

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It I don't I guess I don't really know how to do P PS2 emulation because it it always
breaks on me.

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~ but then I also ~ have been working on Uppercase, which is my daily Word Puzzle game
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It's free to play the daily puzzle, it's pretty awesome.

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And ~ yeah, it's

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man, don't remind my god.

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I just played the puzzle earlier

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Yeah.

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and I like got almost every letter wrong, guessing it.

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you started with G and then that was the only letter you got correct, right?

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the only conson got right, yes.

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~ yeah, it's dude, this game is fun.

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Do you use the hint at all?

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I did not use the hint.

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~ I got into a mildly heated argument with my ~ almost father in law, ~ because he thought
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That's that seems lame.

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So like not punish them but like reduce their points or or like remove some multiplier or
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I'm like, no, we're not doing that.

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'Cause I often put like something funny in here and I don't wanna punish people for
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True that.

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~ but ~ yeah it I dude this game is is like taken off.

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I just I told you before we started high tech that ~ the last week of puzzles has had like
around 300 plays per per day.

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And that's just ~ for the for the daily puzzle count.

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~ and then people are going back and playing archive puzzles too, which is really cool.

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So yeah, I'm ha and I've I've been building ~ an Android app for the game, which is gonna
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That's gonna be released pretty soon.

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of your viewers just play how have just subscribed just for just for

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your upper gate uppercase game?

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Well, I can tell you.

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~ if I go here ~ so it's increased our monthly revenue ~ by twenty four percent.

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That's nice.

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That's real

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nice.

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And if I go in here, I can see ~ paid monthly subscribers.

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Just in the last like seven days it's brought in four new paid subscribers.

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That's pretty cool.

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Dude, I can't dude, it's gonna be sick, man.

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I'm excited about it.

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I I can't wait to see where it goes.

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I ha I'm trying to keep my expectations as low as possible.

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~ but I I'm very pleased with peop how people have been playing it every day and there's
like an now there's a Discord cu channel on ~ on the Gardner the Bright Review Discord.

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~ where people are sharing their scores in there.

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Pretty sick.

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So that's what I've been up to.

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It's a pretty cool site.

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Our friend who isn't here today, James, was able to ~ build that and it it it's pretty
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What do you think of OffTheconsole.com?

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Hi Tech.

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I think it's pretty good I think it's pretty cool.

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Sor sorry, peop I peop people keep interrupting me, man.

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yeah, yeah.

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But basically it it's a pretty freaking solid website, I will say.

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Yeah, you can you can see you can follow us, you can follow the YouTube and the RSS feed,
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And by the way, our Patreon has an exclusive bonus episode every week.

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We just recorded that and it was pretty cool.

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We talked about some stuff that was too hot for YouTube, ~ including MapQuest delivering a
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cameras are in your neighborhood.

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That's really cool.

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~ and a bunch of other stuff.

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You gotta go check that out.

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~ our Patreon is available on our website.

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Alright.

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Let's get to

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sorry, what?

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was gonna say you should tell James about this too.

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About what?

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The map quest?

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yeah, I'm going to for sure.

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~ yeah.

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Let's get to our first story.

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The new Epic Games launcher is here.

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I've played it.

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Have you have you played around with it, high tech?

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I have not, but I have read quite a bit about it.

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Mm.

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What what do you know about it so far?

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I know that it's allegedly supposed to be faster than steam at in like launching speed, is
that true?

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It is.

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Is it double the speed, you would say?

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~ it depends.

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So if you start Steam from a cold boot and it's already up to date and it doesn't need to
download anything, I would say Epic launches a r about half ~ you know, half or double the

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speed it of that Steam does.

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~ yeah.

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But how often are you like booting from a cold boot with Steam or or Epic for that matter?

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click to photon of it.

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~ when you when you click on a library thing, the met the a menu ~ my god.

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When you click on the a library item, that entry comes up really quickly.

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In Steam there is ~ some perceptible lag.

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~ but it's like, you know, we're both of them are basically electron apps now.

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So it's like you're you're dealing with a website basically.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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It it's cool though.

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I ~ I ~ I'm surprised how much I actually enjoyed playing around with the Epic Launcher.

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~ and it looks really nice.

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~ that was the thing that I was most shocked by.

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I mean look at look at it.

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It looks pretty good.

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it does look pretty decent.

251
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That's a vibe curtain for ya.

252
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They just took what worked and added to steam.

253
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Yeah, we haven't mentioned that yet.

254
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This is they said that this is a vibe-coded app.

255
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~ so if you are ~ opposed to AI for any reason, maybe steer clear of the Epic Games
launcher.

256
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~ especially because wasn't it back in March they laid off a thousand of their employees?

257
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They did lay off a thousand of their employees and it was Yeah, it's a lot.

258
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That's a lot of people to be ~ laying off, but I suspect it was because they wanted to go
full steam on AI ~ vibe coding and I think we talked about that not too long ago.

259
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Yeah.

260
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They're they're they they laid off a thousand of their employees and the the remainder
they turned into reverse centaurs.

261
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It's ~ it's pretty terrible.

262
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But they give you free games every month.

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my god, that's so worth that's so worth destroying so many people's livelihoods.

264
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Yeah.

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If I'm not mistaken, they also laid off like a thous th one of those guys ~ lost their
health insurance because they got laid off and I guess

266
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they just didn't I guess they didn't know that he was suffering from fucking cancer of all
things too.

267
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Yeah.

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So, ~ but they give you h free games every month, high tech.

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Come on.

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You gotta ignore all that.

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true.

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We gotta let the cancer patient like suff suffer so we can get free games.

273
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Yeah, that's totally worth it.

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~

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6 is gonna be coming out first on Epic.

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I can't miss playing GTA 6 on PC.

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I can't miss it either, man.

278
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And the those emulator guys aren't fast enough, y I must say.

279
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For real, for real.

280
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but

281
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but real talk though.

282
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This is probably predicated by the arguably bigger news of Fortnite.

283
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Yes.

284
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Fortnite is coming to Linux.

285
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Fortnite is coming to Linux.

286
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and this like there there isn't there aren't lot of details here, but like Fortnite's
coming to Linux.

287
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That's kind of cool because a lot of people play Fortnite.

288
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And the problem is, at least right now, it's not available yet.

289
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~ and they're rebuilding easy anti-cheat for Linux.

290
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Which means that they're going to be using they they're gonna have some system
requirements for distributions to meet and they have a list of those distros.

291
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SteamOS isn't one of them yet.

292
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~ yeah.

293
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They

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said they are working with Valve though about this.

295
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Yes.

296
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So it's to my understanding that Arch Linux as a whole doesn't support secure boot out of
the gate, and that's one of the requirements.

297
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Yeah.

298
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And I would imagine Steam OS is a very similar story, being that it's based on Arch.

299
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Yes.

300
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So here's the thing.

301
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So Arch doesn't make assumptions about your system.

302
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Like they w will they leave Arch to you to configure, which is great.

303
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And if you're an Arch user, you're probably gonna be able to figure out a way to set up
secure boot.

304
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~

305
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It's not that difficult.

306
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The problem will be ~ signing, ~ getting your kernel signed and stuff.

307
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There are probably going to be r repositories to do that.

308
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and there might end up I I I don't know what's gonna all be entail.

309
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I I don't know a whole lot about like ~ the boot chain and and stuff like that.

310
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Like I'm more of like a user space Linux user than anything.

311
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~ so I I don't know what all's gonna be ~ required of that, but ~

312
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I know that kernel modules are are gonna have to be ~ signed, which means ~ a trusted
signing authority like Canonical or Microsoft are going to have to ~ s a attest that your

313
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system ~ that your kernel is not modified in any way, which then easy any cheat can rely
on to ensure that you're not cheating.

314
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So I know that so I know that you definitely don't trust Microsoft.

315
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I don't.

316
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But do you trust Canonical?

317
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~ more than I trust Microsoft.

318
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Yeah.

319
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So some people have raised concerns 'cause, you know, they have modified, you know, Linux
distros or they're running some obscured Linux distro that's not listed here, like ~

320
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well us well, aside from SteamOS there's like a billion others like I don't know, Cali
Linux.

321
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~ Cali Cali is like pen trust pet pen testing, so I wouldn't ~ I wouldn't anticipate that
ever being on this list.

322
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~

323
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Lytics.

324
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yeah, that and that's so old that it doesn't run like a a ~ Linux kernel from this century
or something.

325
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But here I will I will say that they actually have a lot of their bases covered here.

326
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You have

327
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Ubuntu and Debian, which also covers Linux Mint, right?

328
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So that's that's a huge portion right there.

329
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You have Fedora, you have Universal Blue, which covers ~ Bazite, ~ Bluefin, all the the
big ~ like i immutables.

330
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Yeah.

331
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Russ just got back to us.

332
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did he?

333
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Yeah, he it says i if you want we can let him in or we can just try to schedule for
another day.

334
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he can join us if he wants.

335
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~ what what do you think?

336
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us if you'd like.

337
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We started recording already, you should let know.

338
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we did start recording but we aren't super far into the main EP.

339
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I let him know.

340
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But anyways, we'll we'll continue with this.

341
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We'll ask his thoughts on ~ 'cause there's a topic that I think he'd like to he'd like to
chime in on very much so.

342
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~

343
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but yeah, I think a lot of people that like to customize things.

344
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Epic does mention the option of just making another ~ boot entry too, somewhere in

345
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their

346
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Yeah, which, if you do that, you're not gonna it's not gonna be solving you're not gonna
be solving the the dual boot problem.

347
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~ but at least you'll be playing on Linux.

348
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And I will say that ~ Linux you know if you if you

349
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So from my understanding, Easy Any Cheat installs ~ a kernel level driver on Windows.

350
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~ that is not what's going to be happening here.

351
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Easy NH is still going to be a user space application that will rely on the kernel
attestation ~ to ~ say, hey, this is not a modified system, ~ et cetera, et cetera.

352
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~ which

353
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use T

354
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PM, right?

355
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It uses T PM.

356
00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:27,077
Yeah, so the T PM is ~ just ~ a accelerator card for your for encrypted encryption
algorithms.

357
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So

358
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~ T PM it yeah, and it also has like some key signing storage stuff.

359
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~

360
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it has stuff to prevent ~ DMAs from reading the data, if you if you know what that is.

361
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DMA from reading the data.

362
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I think Yeah.

363
00:20:46,904 --> 00:20:47,589
Right, right.

364
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Yeah.

365
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~ yes.

366
00:20:51,205 --> 00:21:06,399
But this will like this is going to, you know, be more secure from a user perspective,
like preventing the app from reading arbitrary data locations in memory.

367
00:21:06,399 --> 00:21:09,600
~ I think it's pretty cool, honestly.

368
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,770
~

369
00:21:11,723 --> 00:21:14,145
Alright, so I I have to rant.

370
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Some

371
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people are insanely delusional in thinking that Linux is somehow gonna get a lot worse
because multiplayer games are playable.

372
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That's just simply not true.

373
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Yes.

374
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you can

375
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~ you're free to not like Fortnite.

376
00:21:31,321 --> 00:21:34,882
I don't really like Fortnite all that much myself either, truth be told.

377
00:21:35,703 --> 00:21:36,683
But

378
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but but you cannot deny that having like multiplayer games work on Linux is a bad you
can't say that it's a bad thing.

379
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'Cause

380
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you're just you're just fucking stupid, alright?

381
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Yeah.

382
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And here's the thing.

383
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~ this stuff, all ~ all of the key signing, the boot structure, the secure boot, all of
that, ~ signed kernels, all of that already exists in Linux.

384
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This is existing Linux technology.

385
00:22:03,796 --> 00:22:04,417
Okay.

386
00:22:04,417 --> 00:22:06,158
The reason that

387
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~ Epic is able to bring this new version of easy anti cheat to market is because they are
relying on existing Linux technology.

388
00:22:14,636 --> 00:22:15,616
Okay.

389
00:22:15,757 --> 00:22:20,518
~ that's so this is not changing Linux.

390
00:22:20,518 --> 00:22:24,779
This is like stand like bog standard security stuff.

391
00:22:24,779 --> 00:22:34,362
And this Linux security stuff is actually more secure and better than Windows because ~
these the it's

392
00:22:35,514 --> 00:22:47,149
on Windows, one of the reasons they we call anticheat on Windows malware is because most
of them install kernel level drivers, which have more permissions than your user account

393
00:22:47,149 --> 00:22:48,579
does, right?

394
00:22:48,740 --> 00:22:49,130
That's

395
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why it's malware.

396
00:22:50,110 --> 00:22:53,762
It can read arbitrarily from any memory location.

397
00:22:53,762 --> 00:22:57,443
It can read arbitrarily from any disk location.

398
00:22:57,443 --> 00:23:01,764
It is they it is it is malware, like by definition.

399
00:23:01,885 --> 00:23:05,080
~ this is user space.

400
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,652
It is controlled.

401
00:23:06,652 --> 00:23:11,439
It is like subject to your security policies on your computer.

402
00:23:11,439 --> 00:23:21,372
And if you don't have this kind of stuff installed, like if you don't have like secure
boot or signed kernel, then you're not going to be playing ~ these games.

403
00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:22,934
It yeah.

404
00:23:23,204 --> 00:23:23,494
Right.

405
00:23:23,494 --> 00:23:34,243
So I do know that historically the reason why the likes of Apex Legends and whatnot took
away Linux access was because from what I've read, anyhow, they were using Windows

406
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subsystem for Linux to effectively s facilitate the cheating.

407
00:23:40,222 --> 00:23:41,102
yeah.

408
00:23:41,443 --> 00:23:42,263
I

409
00:23:43,205 --> 00:23:49,670
Windows subsystem for Linux ~ might actually be usable here.

410
00:23:51,463 --> 00:23:57,806
Still, but but because of the user space stu I I don't know I don't know much about ~ USL.

411
00:23:57,806 --> 00:24:01,778
~ but or WSL, what is that?

412
00:24:01,778 --> 00:24:02,929
W

413
00:24:02,929 --> 00:24:03,749
WSL.

414
00:24:03,749 --> 00:24:11,233
So WSL I don't know, but I would imagine Microsoft has like the ability to do kernel
signing and stuff like that.

415
00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:20,157
~ so but Andy Cheat will be better on Linux and may prevent that from happening still.

416
00:24:20,238 --> 00:24:21,368
That would be cool.

417
00:24:22,096 --> 00:24:22,706
For real.

418
00:24:22,706 --> 00:24:24,386
Yeah, honestly, man.

419
00:24:24,386 --> 00:24:29,330
This is so the only the only real roadblock now is ~ Steam Deck.

420
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:30,561
And I assume

421
00:24:30,561 --> 00:24:36,466
Steam Machine too, let's be honest, 'cause like I don't know I don't know.

422
00:24:36,466 --> 00:24:40,396
It seems like it's a Steam OS sort of issue they have to deal with.

423
00:24:40,676 --> 00:24:41,487
And you know, they

424
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say that they're talking with Valve.

425
00:24:42,627 --> 00:24:43,448
I hope that they do.

426
00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:48,030
I mean they have worked with Valve on like getting easy antichi to work on Linux in the
first place.

427
00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:51,376
Like the original version, yeah, so I trust

428
00:24:51,376 --> 00:24:52,983
They'll do the same thing there.

429
00:24:52,983 --> 00:25:03,933
So my understanding is Valve so the reason that C Steam OS isn't supported is because
Valve's signing key isn't considered well known at this point.

430
00:25:04,234 --> 00:25:06,015
~ which is funny.

431
00:25:06,015 --> 00:25:12,782
But like it's ~ I I'm pretty sure that or maybe it's that the Steam Deck

432
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doesn't have the TPM module enabled by default.

433
00:25:16,013 --> 00:25:27,816
Something one of those two things, I I don't know what it is offhand, but I know that it
would it'll be relatively arbitrary for them to implement the kind of changes necessary to

434
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support EA ~ EAC two.

435
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,376
Now do you see other

436
00:25:36,088 --> 00:25:45,090
N now do you see other ~ other anti cheats taking the same approach Epic is, like, you
know, Battle Eye, the other major anti cheat?

437
00:25:45,963 --> 00:25:49,817
~ I don't know I don't know much about BattleEye, honestly.

438
00:25:49,817 --> 00:25:54,483
~ they I know that they have Linux support already.

439
00:25:54,483 --> 00:26:09,946
~ and I haven't heard about a major ~ Linux build or even a Proton build of a game losing
support that uses Battleyeye.

440
00:26:09,998 --> 00:26:16,605
So they may already be feature I I haven't heard of one anyway, Yeah, 'cause you hear
about Apex Legends and whatever.

441
00:26:16,605 --> 00:26:23,652
That was using Easy Any Cheat and they removed support for Linux because people were able
to cheat.

442
00:26:24,033 --> 00:26:28,177
I don't I haven't heard about that kind of thing happening with a Battle Eye client.

443
00:26:28,177 --> 00:26:29,137
Have you?

444
00:26:30,624 --> 00:26:45,081
~ well, ~ I haven't heard of any Badai games doing this, but yeah, we have games like
Destiny two that d have never supported have never supported Steam OS or Linux in that

445
00:26:45,081 --> 00:26:46,322
general at all.

446
00:26:46,641 --> 00:26:50,484
And I do hope at some point that Battleye is able to step their game.

447
00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:54,366
It seems like they don't they don't use any of these features and you know.

448
00:26:55,478 --> 00:26:55,978
Yeah.

449
00:26:55,978 --> 00:26:59,179
I I don't know ~ what battle I uses.

450
00:26:59,819 --> 00:27:02,700
But it will be interesting to see.

451
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:13,243
I mean, I think that this is the kind of precedent, like the momentum that Linux needs is
to get a h ~ a massive game like Fortnite.

452
00:27:13,343 --> 00:27:15,523
~ you know, native support.

453
00:27:15,523 --> 00:27:25,246
Where where because like really like what does it say about Epic that Fortnite has ~ that
or that not Fortnite has, but like

454
00:27:25,528 --> 00:27:32,201
that what does it say about Epic that they don't trust their own product to deliver on
Linux, right?

455
00:27:32,201 --> 00:27:33,682
With easy any cheat.

456
00:27:34,002 --> 00:27:49,310
~ so for me it's like this is a huge vote of confidence that they think not only that
Linux is like a viable market, but like it has the security ~ chops to actually

457
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:54,003
deliver the product that they that it says it w is on the tin.

458
00:27:54,103 --> 00:28:03,712
You know, it's like, ~ we have an Annie cheat and it's available for Linux, but also like
a couple of games tried s using our product on Linux and then they were like, Yeah, it it

459
00:28:03,712 --> 00:28:04,673
kind of sucks.

460
00:28:04,673 --> 00:28:06,295
And we don't use it ourself.

461
00:28:06,295 --> 00:28:08,757
This is like them, you know, eating the dog food.

462
00:28:08,757 --> 00:28:09,998
You know what I'm saying?

463
00:28:11,428 --> 00:28:14,742
Yeah, yeah, honestly, man.

464
00:28:14,903 --> 00:28:19,290
The fact that they're bringing they're risking it all by putting Fortnite on Linux.

465
00:28:19,290 --> 00:28:19,858
Yes.

466
00:28:19,858 --> 00:28:28,182
I'm one and I'm and the fact that they're pushing the epic game store on Linux makes me
wonder if they're seeing the same thing Valve saw like a decade ago with Microsoft.

467
00:28:28,942 --> 00:28:30,342
I would imagine.

468
00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:31,075
Yeah.

469
00:28:31,075 --> 00:28:47,114
Tim Sweeney is still like a fierce ~ Windows Loyalist, which I don't fully understand, but
at the same time it Windows has just become like irreconcilably bad.

470
00:28:47,114 --> 00:28:48,625
you can't ~

471
00:28:49,194 --> 00:28:52,237
say, yeah, no, it it's still ~ awesome.

472
00:28:52,237 --> 00:28:53,218
I I love it.

473
00:28:53,218 --> 00:28:58,722
It's like, dude, I I to be honest, I love Windows ninety five and ninety eight.

474
00:28:58,722 --> 00:29:04,066
Like I go back I when I think about like old school PC, that's my jam.

475
00:29:04,247 --> 00:29:07,309
~ but and it it also sucked.

476
00:29:07,309 --> 00:29:09,671
But like now it sucks again.

477
00:29:09,671 --> 00:29:12,023
And it sucks as bad as it ever has.

478
00:29:12,023 --> 00:29:18,018
~ and it's just I don't think people I don't think people can

479
00:29:18,562 --> 00:29:22,659
live with that cognitive dissonance even if you're like a business bro like Tim Sweeney.

480
00:29:26,918 --> 00:29:27,839
Mm-hmm.

481
00:29:28,007 --> 00:29:28,967
I don't know.

482
00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:30,107
I mean it's it's

483
00:29:30,107 --> 00:29:31,488
interesting stuff for sure.

484
00:29:31,488 --> 00:29:37,189
And between this and GOG coming over, it's gonna be an interesting time, for sure for
Linux gaming.

485
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:38,510
The big

486
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:40,631
question is when's everyone else gonna move over?

487
00:29:40,631 --> 00:29:43,346
I mean at some point I might heck, I might move over too.

488
00:29:43,346 --> 00:29:50,194
I mean What what I don't even know what's left anymore once online games ~ work on Linux.

489
00:29:50,574 --> 00:29:51,278
Like

490
00:29:51,278 --> 00:29:52,139
Yeah.

491
00:29:53,382 --> 00:29:54,575
what games do you play?

492
00:29:54,575 --> 00:29:56,810
~ but ~ do you play Fortnite?

493
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:59,233
Not Yeah.

494
00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:01,169
Destiny Two as one of them.

495
00:30:01,169 --> 00:30:01,919
Hmm.

496
00:30:02,199 --> 00:30:03,720
Yeah, I don't play Fortnite.

497
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,700
I I don't play any ~ online games.

498
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,001
Destiny's not ever gonna come to Linux.

499
00:30:08,001 --> 00:30:10,661
~ never.

500
00:30:11,122 --> 00:30:13,182
Do you still you still play Destiny?

501
00:30:14,022 --> 00:30:14,449
No.

502
00:30:14,449 --> 00:30:16,183
did for the longest time though.

503
00:30:16,183 --> 00:30:17,103
Yeah.

504
00:30:17,743 --> 00:30:19,194
~ yeah.

505
00:30:19,194 --> 00:30:27,876
I I mean with these anti cheat clients, they are all like all of the vendors are going to
leave it up to the ~

506
00:30:28,026 --> 00:30:40,372
the studio to actually implement Linux support or not because th they just they have to by
their the nature of the by the nature of what they do as a company, they have to let

507
00:30:40,372 --> 00:30:42,612
studios make that decision themselves.

508
00:30:43,113 --> 00:30:46,214
~ yeah.

509
00:30:46,838 --> 00:30:49,416
~ I mean we'll we'll see, we'll see.

510
00:30:49,454 --> 00:30:50,195
Yeah.

511
00:30:50,195 --> 00:30:57,403
~ so Epic is reportedly delaying their Disney shooter so that they can pivot to AI.

512
00:30:58,608 --> 00:30:59,128
I'm a little

513
00:30:59,128 --> 00:31:01,601
less enthused about this topic, truth be told.

514
00:31:01,601 --> 00:31:02,211
But basically

515
00:31:02,211 --> 00:31:12,422
they were making a ~ they were making a ~ third person shoot I don't know, it was a fur it
was first a third person shoot, but it was gonna it was gonna have Marvel and Star Wars.

516
00:31:12,422 --> 00:31:13,311
Mm.

517
00:31:13,311 --> 00:31:21,208
And they were gonna it's been delayed so that they can move over to do more AI ~ AI vibe
coding, basically.

518
00:31:22,544 --> 00:31:26,977
So it's ~ it's Kingdom Fort Knight.

519
00:31:27,457 --> 00:31:29,039
I I don't fucking know.

520
00:31:30,641 --> 00:31:31,342
Yeah.

521
00:31:31,342 --> 00:31:33,824
I mean ~ I didn't even know they were doing that.

522
00:31:33,824 --> 00:31:34,704
~

523
00:31:34,724 --> 00:31:35,665
Neither did I.

524
00:31:35,665 --> 00:31:36,585
Yeah.

525
00:31:37,186 --> 00:31:42,651
I I don't have a lot to say about this, but I mean this is I mean, this is just kind of
like AI coding, dude.

526
00:31:42,651 --> 00:31:44,062
It's like I know James

527
00:31:44,062 --> 00:31:46,214
would have something to say about this, but

528
00:31:46,222 --> 00:31:59,367
Yeah, I don't really ~ I mean, I think we said a lot of what we wanted to say about a
their AI coding during the ~ during it so we can just ignore this topic to read the truth

529
00:31:59,367 --> 00:32:00,103
be told.

530
00:32:00,103 --> 00:32:08,267
Alright, well the next topic on the list is Valve Index is now ~ f

531
00:32:08,267 --> 00:32:09,098
end of life.

532
00:32:09,098 --> 00:32:13,389
What what man, I paid a thousand dollars for my setup

533
00:32:14,382 --> 00:32:16,685
Don't worry, let me do the math.

534
00:32:17,507 --> 00:32:25,428
So it's about a thous so it was about a thousand dollars, but if we buy the headset and
buy

535
00:32:29,956 --> 00:32:31,844
Wait, there's only a left controller replacement?

536
00:32:31,844 --> 00:32:32,828
Where's the right controller?

537
00:32:32,828 --> 00:32:33,777
What the fuck?

538
00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:37,970
I suspect they sold out of left of right controllers.

539
00:32:38,022 --> 00:32:41,717
Dude, who wants to play a Valve Index with ~ half a controller?

540
00:32:41,764 --> 00:32:50,308
Well, y y it's because most people are right handed, so they're more likely to bash the
right handed controller on something and break it and they need a replacement.

541
00:32:51,050 --> 00:32:53,021
That's my that's what I guess anyway.

542
00:32:53,021 --> 00:32:54,202
makes sense.

543
00:32:54,364 --> 00:32:57,138
But like Wait, what's the tether?

544
00:32:57,138 --> 00:32:58,458
Is that like the cable?

545
00:32:58,458 --> 00:33:00,595
The tether, yeah, it's a cable.

546
00:33:03,248 --> 00:33:06,803
Dude, that's a hundred dollars on by itself.

547
00:33:06,804 --> 00:33:08,198
That's crazy.

548
00:33:08,198 --> 00:33:08,368
I have

549
00:33:08,368 --> 00:33:17,424
to figure out another another solution 'cause ~ I like I like my Pimax, but I gotta figure
out how to deal with the dragon cable 'cause ~

550
00:33:17,593 --> 00:33:18,447
Yeah.

551
00:33:18,706 --> 00:33:24,570
~ I and I don't know if the cable's long enough to mount on the ceiling and honestly I
don't even know if I wanna do that.

552
00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:31,375
No, I what I would really like is a battery pack and a wireless transceiver for my index.

553
00:33:31,996 --> 00:33:33,014
That would be cool.

554
00:33:33,014 --> 00:33:34,258
that would be sick.

555
00:33:34,258 --> 00:33:35,178
Yeah.

556
00:33:35,199 --> 00:33:40,242
Even if it was like what James was talking about with a with a battery vest.

557
00:33:42,124 --> 00:33:42,585
Yeah.

558
00:33:42,585 --> 00:33:44,566
~

559
00:33:44,566 --> 00:33:54,074
I you know, I really love my index though, and it would be cool if someone made a like a
tether free ~ mod for it.

560
00:33:54,672 --> 00:33:58,473
Valve index wireless mod.

561
00:33:58,882 --> 00:34:00,681
I'm looking it up now.

562
00:34:01,934 --> 00:34:02,341
Hmm.

563
00:34:02,341 --> 00:34:02,884
NoFi

564
00:34:02,884 --> 00:34:05,224
wireless adapter for valve index.

565
00:34:07,194 --> 00:34:08,216
That doesn't sound real.

566
00:34:08,216 --> 00:34:11,012
It's built for serious gamers, Gardner.

567
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:15,194
yeah, I've seen this ~ this lady on YouTube.

568
00:34:15,655 --> 00:34:16,115
Most

569
00:34:16,115 --> 00:34:16,876
and gardener?

570
00:34:16,876 --> 00:34:17,998
No, I'm not.

571
00:34:17,998 --> 00:34:20,641
Most mostly negative reviews.

572
00:34:20,641 --> 00:34:22,542
No five real time for you.

573
00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:24,104
Yeah.

574
00:34:24,305 --> 00:34:26,043
Well, I sus sorry, go.

575
00:34:26,043 --> 00:34:27,154
software, right?

576
00:34:28,129 --> 00:34:29,130
Yeah.

577
00:34:29,272 --> 00:34:30,186
L let's see what's going on.

578
00:34:30,186 --> 00:34:32,322
Let's see what's let's see what the reviews have to say though.

579
00:34:32,322 --> 00:34:33,781
I am curious.

580
00:34:44,496 --> 00:34:45,366
Okay.

581
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,077
Setup is straightforward.

582
00:34:47,077 --> 00:34:51,488
Plug ~ in the included cables to the PC and index.

583
00:34:51,488 --> 00:34:59,230
However, the fans on both the case and the headset are very loud and there is no way I can
adjust it as far as I know.

584
00:35:00,529 --> 00:35:01,831
Interesting.

585
00:35:03,771 --> 00:35:04,612
60

586
00:35:04,612 --> 00:35:09,293
61 decibels for the fan on the Wi-Fi receiver, dude?

587
00:35:09,513 --> 00:35:10,638
That's wild.

588
00:35:10,638 --> 00:35:12,554
Maybe that's why it's got all the negative reviews.

589
00:35:12,554 --> 00:35:13,474
Yeah.

590
00:35:14,020 --> 00:35:17,753
And I wonder the video quality is a deal breaker for me.

591
00:35:17,753 --> 00:35:27,621
I have experienced ultra low res video quality due to compression, big chunky pixels,
which is what I can describe as 360p to 720p.

592
00:35:27,621 --> 00:35:27,971
A lot

593
00:35:27,971 --> 00:35:33,146
of color fringing and static noise occasionally, ~ broken index cable.

594
00:35:33,146 --> 00:35:39,711
So it's it's so bad like watching video on a mobile network or sitting very close to a
CRT.

595
00:35:39,711 --> 00:35:42,233
Yeah, that's ~ that's a shame.

596
00:35:42,233 --> 00:35:43,133
Wow.

597
00:35:43,395 --> 00:35:52,060
I can't this is a s ~ a photo of through the lens, but you can definitely see all the
compression artifacts here.

598
00:35:52,121 --> 00:35:53,350
That's wild.

599
00:35:53,350 --> 00:35:54,623
that is crazy.

600
00:35:54,623 --> 00:36:05,490
You know what would have been really cool is if Valve had gone just a little bit further
and added foveated ~ the eye tracking to the index, because then you could do foveated

601
00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:09,623
rendering or phot foveated streaming on the index.

602
00:36:09,623 --> 00:36:11,253
That would have been awesome.

603
00:36:11,888 --> 00:36:13,121
Dude.

604
00:36:13,121 --> 00:36:17,850
Yo apparently PyMax is making a Fovier streaming headset too.

605
00:36:18,274 --> 00:36:19,206
cool.

606
00:36:19,776 --> 00:36:20,404
I

607
00:36:20,404 --> 00:36:24,918
st it's not a standalone, but not that I know of, but

608
00:36:24,918 --> 00:36:30,948
wouldn't need to be if it was if it had the eye tracking, you could do the foveated
streaming 'cause that's built into Steam VR.

609
00:36:32,226 --> 00:36:33,911
It says it has eye tracking.

610
00:36:34,052 --> 00:36:35,881
Yeah, that would be awesome.

611
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,083
sixty G Wi Fi streaming and then sixty G airlink, they say.

612
00:36:43,162 --> 00:36:50,180
Dude, this is four hundred dollars for the Nofio wireless adapter for the index.

613
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,115
It says it's unreleased.

614
00:36:52,439 --> 00:36:53,571
Is that true?

615
00:36:54,427 --> 00:36:56,146
~ VR compare.

616
00:36:56,146 --> 00:36:57,166
No.

617
00:36:57,522 --> 00:36:58,926
that can't be right.

618
00:36:58,926 --> 00:37:00,928
Let's go to their actual website.

619
00:37:01,830 --> 00:37:06,977
~ they don't even ha they're not even their store doesn't even exist anymore.

620
00:37:07,563 --> 00:37:11,794
they went out of business.

621
00:37:11,936 --> 00:37:14,702
Were they the only ones making index stuff?

622
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,390
I don't know.

623
00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:16,718
I ~

624
00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:20,195
Well we'll look further I guess we'll look further into it later.

625
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:20,917
But

626
00:37:20,917 --> 00:37:23,642
damn the index is crazy, man.

627
00:37:23,642 --> 00:37:26,006
I definitely remember seeing the index.

628
00:37:26,006 --> 00:37:26,467
~

629
00:37:26,467 --> 00:37:28,870
and th there was a lot of hype surrounding it.

630
00:37:29,232 --> 00:37:30,954
But then they only made one

631
00:37:32,688 --> 00:37:36,588
They only made one ~ super high end VR game for it.

632
00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:37,100
Yeah.

633
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:44,158
They really only made one game and then they made a couple of tech demos, like Aperture
Hand Lab and ~

634
00:37:44,334 --> 00:37:47,549
Dude, they should make aperture desk job two.

635
00:37:47,601 --> 00:37:48,491
Dude.

636
00:37:48,991 --> 00:37:49,712
Yeah.

637
00:37:49,712 --> 00:37:52,812
Aperture dude, Aperture Death Job was awesome.

638
00:37:53,652 --> 00:37:58,714
And I had been like a fan of ~ no, I forgot his name.

639
00:37:58,714 --> 00:38:02,554
The guy who did the voice of the the AI in it.

640
00:38:03,065 --> 00:38:03,695
my god.

641
00:38:03,695 --> 00:38:04,975
What is his name?

642
00:38:04,975 --> 00:38:05,495
I don't know.

643
00:38:05,495 --> 00:38:07,276
But I I was

644
00:38:07,636 --> 00:38:17,498
No, JK Simmons was ~ No, I'm thinking of the the comedian who did like the the ~ my god

645
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:18,876
Who did Wheatley?

646
00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:26,179
Not Wheatley, the the Wheatley style Android robot in Yeah.

647
00:38:26,179 --> 00:38:28,387
I don't know, truth be told.

648
00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,271
Aperture desk job.

649
00:38:31,473 --> 00:38:35,616
~ his name is Nate Bargates.

650
00:38:36,898 --> 00:38:37,208
Great.

651
00:38:37,208 --> 00:38:38,959
He played Grady, the AI core.

652
00:38:38,959 --> 00:38:41,701
That's yeah, I couldn't couldn't think of his name.

653
00:38:41,802 --> 00:38:46,126
But I had been a fan of his stand up for a while, so it was cool to hear his voice in
there.

654
00:38:46,126 --> 00:38:50,390
~ but ~ yeah, Valve really needs to step up their game.

655
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:55,434
I mean the index, I'm gonna say this.

656
00:38:55,864 --> 00:39:06,404
The index is like if Nintendo had released the N64 and then only released Super Mario 64
and that was it on it.

657
00:39:06,404 --> 00:39:11,188
And that is really what I find s the most disappointing about my purchase with the index.

658
00:39:11,188 --> 00:39:17,333
And it's one of the reasons I'm almost skeptical to to bother buying a a frame, is because

659
00:39:18,165 --> 00:39:25,451
they've they have their one triple A game f for VR and I don't know if they're ever gonna
produce anything else.

660
00:39:25,451 --> 00:39:28,396
So like, why would I buy it, you know?

661
00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:34,576
But Gardner, you'll fun Valve you'll fund Half Life Three on VR.

662
00:39:34,576 --> 00:39:38,678
Dude, imagine if Half Life Three was VR exclusive.

663
00:39:38,918 --> 00:39:46,801
~ imagine the shitstorm that would happen on the internet and ~ it was made in such a way
that made it difficult to port over to ~ two D.

664
00:39:46,922 --> 00:39:47,492
Cause we guys

665
00:39:47,492 --> 00:39:52,384
Half Life Alex is v VR exclusive, but yeah, go ahead.

666
00:39:52,384 --> 00:39:58,178
they managed to port it to some people managed to mod it in a way to make it like playable
on like a keyboard and mouse.

667
00:39:58,178 --> 00:40:01,295
Yeah, but it loses so much that way.

668
00:40:02,581 --> 00:40:07,805
Dude, imagine though if Half Life 3, the big three, was VR exclusive.

669
00:40:07,805 --> 00:40:10,038
That'd be crazy.

670
00:40:10,038 --> 00:40:11,373
I would like that, honestly.

671
00:40:11,373 --> 00:40:12,516
Yeah.

672
00:40:12,516 --> 00:40:14,289
I think it'd be interesting, but

673
00:40:14,411 --> 00:40:18,362
I wonder if imagine the mass psychosis surrounding the internet though.

674
00:40:18,362 --> 00:40:19,851
That'd be so crazy.

675
00:40:19,851 --> 00:40:20,852
yeah.

676
00:40:21,193 --> 00:40:22,074
I don't know.

677
00:40:22,074 --> 00:40:28,982
Speaking of mass psychosis, Steam hit an all new or an all-time record of concurrent
players.

678
00:40:28,982 --> 00:40:33,156
43.5 million players on Steam concurrently.

679
00:40:33,156 --> 00:40:36,706
Yeah.

680
00:40:36,706 --> 00:40:38,177
by Joff Keeley.

681
00:40:38,232 --> 00:40:40,394
That's so nutso.

682
00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:45,221
I don't even can you imagine ~ that many people in one place?

683
00:40:45,221 --> 00:40:46,222
I couldn't.

684
00:40:46,544 --> 00:40:47,478
Forty three million?

685
00:40:47,478 --> 00:40:48,361
No.

686
00:40:49,048 --> 00:40:51,216
How many New York cities is that?

687
00:40:53,602 --> 00:40:54,065
I don't know.

688
00:40:54,065 --> 00:40:57,721
How many how many how many people can fit in one New York City?

689
00:40:59,446 --> 00:41:05,331
New York City's population, doesn't say.

690
00:41:05,331 --> 00:41:11,996
~ eight hundred so eight million eight hundred and forty thousand population in New York
City.

691
00:41:11,996 --> 00:41:15,178
So that's like seven New York cities.

692
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,221
Can I is that correct in my math?

693
00:41:19,701 --> 00:41:20,202
I think so.

694
00:41:20,202 --> 00:41:21,185
I didn't I don't know.

695
00:41:21,185 --> 00:41:21,685
We'll see.

696
00:41:21,685 --> 00:41:22,728
We shall see.

697
00:41:22,728 --> 00:41:25,534
~

698
00:41:26,290 --> 00:41:27,250
Damn.

699
00:41:27,752 --> 00:41:37,562
And speaking of other mass psychosis, GTA six could come to PC in quarter one of next
year.

700
00:41:37,663 --> 00:41:40,105
What ~ what do you make of this, high tech?

701
00:41:40,863 --> 00:41:48,545
~ while as a leak, we should take it with a grain of salt, but if we look at when they
released Red Dead Redemption 2 on consoles.

702
00:41:51,034 --> 00:41:53,851
versus P C it was only a few months actually.

703
00:41:53,851 --> 00:41:54,612
Yeah.

704
00:41:57,715 --> 00:42:01,137
let me actually you know what let me ~ pull it up right now.

705
00:42:01,798 --> 00:42:10,009
So it came out October twenty sixth, twenty twenty eighteen and then it came on Windows ~
November fifth, twenty nineteen.

706
00:42:10,009 --> 00:42:12,798
Actually that was a that was a whole year, actually.

707
00:42:12,798 --> 00:42:13,345
Yeah.

708
00:42:13,345 --> 00:42:15,187
So I was wrong.

709
00:42:15,187 --> 00:42:16,307
Never mind then.

710
00:42:16,508 --> 00:42:17,148
But

711
00:42:17,148 --> 00:42:25,714
if this is to be believed then there'll be a much less like if this is to be believed then
the latest we'll see GTA six on PC is March.

712
00:42:25,754 --> 00:42:26,480
Yeah.

713
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,109
Going by the Q1 figure.

714
00:42:28,116 --> 00:42:29,957
Here's the thing.

715
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:35,653
The how many units have actually been sold from this console generation?

716
00:42:35,653 --> 00:42:40,969
Like, I mean how many people actually have PS5s and Xboxes out there?

717
00:42:40,969 --> 00:42:42,790
Xbox series consoles?

718
00:42:43,171 --> 00:42:50,637
~ like they have to know that it's like far less of a market than what you can get on PC
now.

719
00:42:52,338 --> 00:42:56,791
~ I think the unfortunate truth is they've made their bed with ~ Sony and Sony

720
00:42:56,791 --> 00:43:06,968
has paid up the ass for marketing marketing 'cause you hear all this you hear all this
hubbub about PlayStations being sold out, but then you never hear anyone talk about buying

721
00:43:06,968 --> 00:43:10,426
out an Xbox despite the fact that it is also an Xbox.

722
00:43:10,426 --> 00:43:11,265
Yeah.

723
00:43:15,586 --> 00:43:17,728
I don't know.

724
00:43:17,728 --> 00:43:21,271
I mean are do you are you gonna get GTA six when it comes out?

725
00:43:21,271 --> 00:43:23,973
Do you have a a way to play it?

726
00:43:25,696 --> 00:43:26,596
Yeah.

727
00:43:27,778 --> 00:43:28,698
Yeah.

728
00:43:29,579 --> 00:43:41,250
I know I have a friend who who messaged me that that they bought a an Xbox series to ~ a
Series X to play GTA six when it comes out.

729
00:43:41,432 --> 00:43:44,364
And I was like, what the fuck else are you gonna use that for?

730
00:43:44,364 --> 00:43:47,626
~ and they bought the premium edition of GTA Six.

731
00:43:47,626 --> 00:43:53,249
And I'm like, so you just paid ~ almost a thousand dollars to play one game?

732
00:43:55,038 --> 00:43:59,585
~ I'm gonna be honest, I was kinda g I'm kinda guilty of that too.

733
00:43:59,698 --> 00:44:01,182
But not for GTA.

734
00:44:01,182 --> 00:44:01,843
Alex,

735
00:44:01,843 --> 00:44:03,185
but that's Alex.

736
00:44:03,185 --> 00:44:03,986
~

737
00:44:04,295 --> 00:44:06,897
I did it for Bloodborne.

738
00:44:07,173 --> 00:44:07,838
Yeah.

739
00:44:07,838 --> 00:44:14,484
But, you know, the ple the PS five and Bloodborne was only like maybe four hundred dollars
total, I'm not if I'm not mistaken.

740
00:44:14,965 --> 00:44:19,087
And then ~ I also did it for the Wii U for Smash.

741
00:44:20,068 --> 00:44:21,613
I mean it

742
00:44:21,613 --> 00:44:24,304
did you use those consoles for any other games?

743
00:44:25,363 --> 00:44:28,811
well the Wii U came with Mario Kart eight, so

744
00:44:28,811 --> 00:44:29,654
yes.

745
00:44:29,654 --> 00:44:32,500
And I got Mario Party I got Mario Party for the Wii U.

746
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:33,290
Mm.

747
00:44:33,303 --> 00:44:35,045
And for the PS4?

748
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:43,060
~ The PS four bundle that I got came with GTA five.

749
00:44:43,803 --> 00:44:46,907
But I mostly y but I most just played Bloodborne.

750
00:44:47,209 --> 00:44:47,439
On

751
00:44:47,439 --> 00:44:48,330
it, yeah.

752
00:44:48,623 --> 00:44:54,006
I bought my PS four used for like a hundred bucks.

753
00:44:54,747 --> 00:44:57,828
And I've played a bunch of games.

754
00:44:57,989 --> 00:45:02,181
Like ~ Spelunky and you know, of course it's Spelunky 'cause that's my favorite game.

755
00:45:02,181 --> 00:45:12,812
~ but like I you know, Doom like before Doom twenty sixteen came ~ like came to Linux, I
was playing it on on ~ my PS four.

756
00:45:12,812 --> 00:45:13,333
that's not true.

757
00:45:13,333 --> 00:45:17,799
I I also played ~ Odin's Fairy Life this year on my PS four.

758
00:45:17,799 --> 00:45:18,040
yeah.

759
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:18,821
Pretty sick game.

760
00:45:18,821 --> 00:45:24,969
And apparently Vanillaware is bringing games to PC, so maybe in due time I can retire my
PS four.

761
00:45:25,764 --> 00:45:26,540
Yeah.

762
00:45:27,682 --> 00:45:34,135
Not that I really use it though, truth be told these days, truth be told, but ~ It's the
principle of having one.

763
00:45:37,338 --> 00:45:42,764
Yeah, but ~ I don't really know if I'm gonna get GTA six on even if it comes on PC.

764
00:45:42,789 --> 00:45:43,125
Yeah.

765
00:45:43,125 --> 00:45:46,829
~ I might, but I don't really care that much about the story.

766
00:45:47,050 --> 00:45:53,413
Story in a GTA game is like porn in a video like plot in a porn.

767
00:45:53,413 --> 00:45:54,243
Yeah.

768
00:45:55,184 --> 00:45:56,105
Yep.

769
00:45:56,105 --> 00:45:59,427
I I could not care less about GTA.

770
00:45:59,808 --> 00:46:06,452
~ like you know, i if I wanted to play a GTA game, I'd I'd play Vice City.

771
00:46:06,452 --> 00:46:11,486
~ that's my favorite of all the all of Even GTA

772
00:46:11,486 --> 00:46:13,937
four was pretty was pretty great.

773
00:46:14,254 --> 00:46:17,984
Speak of the Devil, GTA six takes place takes place in Vice City.

774
00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:34,605
I yeah, that i that is the only bit I'm curious about at all, but ~ I yeah, I just don't I
can't find the will in me to care about what anything that ~ Rockstar does because they

775
00:46:34,605 --> 00:46:36,245
just hate their fans.

776
00:46:36,558 --> 00:46:40,784
What if you ran GTA six on the PS five emulator?

777
00:46:41,095 --> 00:46:45,291
the PS five emulator on your homebrew Steam machine

778
00:46:45,324 --> 00:46:45,973
Well,

779
00:46:45,973 --> 00:46:46,977
for content.

780
00:46:46,977 --> 00:46:48,459
that would be cool.

781
00:46:48,459 --> 00:46:52,363
I I might do that just to thumb them in the eye.

782
00:46:54,467 --> 00:46:59,252
But I think don't you need like a fifty ninety or something to to to emulate

783
00:46:59,278 --> 00:46:59,470
Well

784
00:46:59,470 --> 00:47:03,181
remember, a forty seven TI apparently is sufficient now.

785
00:47:03,482 --> 00:47:05,002
Right, that's right.

786
00:47:05,423 --> 00:47:12,526
~ but the RTX 5090 has ended production according to Nvidia.

787
00:47:13,927 --> 00:47:14,607
so

788
00:47:14,607 --> 00:47:17,868
yeah, no more high-end GPUs.

789
00:47:18,869 --> 00:47:21,290
Now the mid-tier is the high-end, right?

790
00:47:21,752 --> 00:47:24,625
I o I would say the fifty eighty is still pretty high end.

791
00:47:24,625 --> 00:47:25,365
It's not it's

792
00:47:25,365 --> 00:47:31,428
not as high end as the fifty ninety naturally, but ~ Fifty eighty is still ~ over a
thousand bucks.

793
00:47:31,428 --> 00:47:31,771
Yeah.

794
00:47:31,771 --> 00:47:33,873
In fact, how much is it now?

795
00:47:33,873 --> 00:47:35,314
Fifty eighty.

796
00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:46,228
I bought my ~ the RX ninety seventy for ~ just under eight hundred bucks and it's pretty
freaking great.

797
00:47:46,229 --> 00:47:47,590
Sixteen gigs

798
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:54,678
Dude, can you believe NVIDIA listed the fifty eighty as having an MSRP of nine hundred and
ninety-nine dollars?

799
00:47:54,745 --> 00:47:55,490
No.

800
00:47:57,479 --> 00:48:10,896
~ why I I it still it still says on their website on the on NVIDIA's official website it
says starting at $999 Please tell me where I can get a fifty nine eight fifty eighty for

801
00:48:10,896 --> 00:48:12,678
less than a thousand dollars.

802
00:48:18,702 --> 00:48:21,886
T X fifty eighty.

803
00:48:22,962 --> 00:48:24,650
~ it's holy

804
00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:25,671
mother.

805
00:48:26,944 --> 00:48:28,295
my God.

806
00:48:29,042 --> 00:48:33,303
S dude seventeen seventy-nine?

807
00:48:33,303 --> 00:48:34,394
Eighteen ninety?

808
00:48:34,394 --> 00:48:35,405
Wow.

809
00:48:36,090 --> 00:48:41,138
There are some that are even close to that are over two thousand dollars, like this MSI
one right here.

810
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,421
Please tell me where

811
00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:52,518
NVIDIA please tell me where I can get a fifty, eighty for ~ close to a thousand dollars.

812
00:48:52,699 --> 00:48:57,022
Cause it seems like I can't even find one for ~ close to fifteen hundred dollars.

813
00:48:57,442 --> 00:48:58,343
Yeah.

814
00:48:59,065 --> 00:49:01,638
That's just it's unreasonable.

815
00:49:01,638 --> 00:49:05,294
this this timeline is just the worst.

816
00:49:05,294 --> 00:49:12,644
But I think we'll be better for it ~ once we get our shit figured out as a species.

817
00:49:13,208 --> 00:49:13,449
Now

818
00:49:13,449 --> 00:49:19,111
allegedly, NVIDIA claims that they're not they're not discontinuing the fifty ninety.

819
00:49:19,854 --> 00:49:23,761
Despite the fact that multiple stores have taken down listings for fifty nineties.

820
00:49:25,828 --> 00:49:27,038
But I I don't know, man.

821
00:49:27,038 --> 00:49:31,400
It it doesn't really matter to me because ~ who the who who's gonna get a fifty ninety
now?

822
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,480
You'd have to

823
00:49:32,841 --> 00:49:40,614
Like at the prices you're paying for a fifty ninety, you may as well buy like a legitimate
like a a workstation card.

824
00:49:40,614 --> 00:49:41,104
Yeah.

825
00:49:41,104 --> 00:49:47,771
Like you're paying workstation money for like a GTA G RTX fifty ninety.

826
00:49:47,771 --> 00:49:49,293
But that's what they want, right?

827
00:49:49,293 --> 00:49:54,851
they're they are making way more money in the B2B sector than they are in the consumer
sector.

828
00:49:54,851 --> 00:50:10,073
~ and so why dedicate, you know, resources to producing these cards when they could make
more money ~ selling it to businesses as workstation cards?

829
00:50:10,638 --> 00:50:11,582
I don't know, Gardner.

830
00:50:11,582 --> 00:50:15,412
We we live in a terrible timeline where we can't afford anything.

831
00:50:17,892 --> 00:50:18,284
Yep.

832
00:50:18,284 --> 00:50:20,409
That's why you gotta get out and vote.

833
00:50:20,994 --> 00:50:21,365
Coming

834
00:50:21,365 --> 00:50:22,356
up soon.

835
00:50:22,406 --> 00:50:26,053
sixty ninety, how much do you think that's gonna be?

836
00:50:26,512 --> 00:50:27,925
Sixty ninety?

837
00:50:28,690 --> 00:50:29,771
Will they

838
00:50:29,774 --> 00:50:32,421
will they even produce a sixty ninety?

839
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:33,687
I don't know.

840
00:50:34,622 --> 00:50:39,590
~ I don't even know what the the fifty ninety went for, so ~

841
00:50:40,110 --> 00:50:42,777
MSRP was three thousand dot three thousand.

842
00:50:42,810 --> 00:50:45,457
The MSRP was three thousand.

843
00:50:45,479 --> 00:50:46,201
Could you buy

844
00:50:46,201 --> 00:50:47,463
it for MSRP?

845
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,770
maybe once upon a time.

846
00:50:52,770 --> 00:50:53,711
Yeah.

847
00:50:54,132 --> 00:50:58,808
I think they're gonna list it f if they if they even bother making it, it's gonna be five
grand.

848
00:51:00,198 --> 00:51:04,818
Actually I was wrong, it was not three thousand, it was two thousand MSRP.

849
00:51:04,818 --> 00:51:05,914
Big difference.

850
00:51:05,914 --> 00:51:06,776
Yeah.

851
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:09,832
I don't know, boss.

852
00:51:09,832 --> 00:51:10,603
I don't know, dude.

853
00:51:10,603 --> 00:51:13,216
This is it's it's ridiculous.

854
00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:17,543
they they're insisting that it's not dead.

855
00:51:18,665 --> 00:51:22,029
But ~ whatever, dude.

856
00:51:22,402 --> 00:51:24,717
My enthusiasm for a fifty ninety is dead.

857
00:51:24,717 --> 00:51:26,529
That's for sure.

858
00:51:26,638 --> 00:51:27,538
Yeah.

859
00:51:27,820 --> 00:51:35,368
The only card I am willing to buy is an is a an o ~ an AMD card.

860
00:51:36,029 --> 00:51:39,693
Or maybe like an Intel card, but they are they even still doing those?

861
00:51:41,826 --> 00:51:44,407
Intel's still doing them, it's just not no one talks about them.

862
00:51:44,422 --> 00:51:45,220
Mm.

863
00:51:45,748 --> 00:51:56,274
And ~ and ~ I I don't believe any I don't believe anyone even I don't believe Intel has
anything equivalent to like a ninety seventy XT even.

864
00:51:56,304 --> 00:51:57,100
Right.

865
00:51:58,555 --> 00:52:00,879
So ~ yeah.

866
00:52:00,981 --> 00:52:05,669
Intel is still very far behind, but hopefully we'll be able to afford

867
00:52:06,810 --> 00:52:16,958
Yeah, I think that it would be cool if Intel came out with ~ some consumer cards that
also, were able to do ~ local AI stuff.

868
00:52:17,769 --> 00:52:34,193
'cause that's like the fact is I think th Nvidia and OpenAI and Anthropic are all
colluding to some degree to like conserve compute power for the ultra wealthy.

869
00:52:34,414 --> 00:52:35,214
~

870
00:52:35,278 --> 00:52:37,521
so that we can't run our own models.

871
00:52:37,521 --> 00:52:38,393
~ genuinely.

872
00:52:38,393 --> 00:52:39,964
I think that's what they're doing.

873
00:52:40,165 --> 00:52:40,945
~

874
00:52:42,832 --> 00:52:43,812
So I don't know.

875
00:52:43,812 --> 00:52:58,010
~ and perhaps they're doing that so that ~ we will not be able to reverse engineer ~
software without their explicit permission and paying through the nose for it.

876
00:52:58,010 --> 00:53:12,018
Speaking of that, this game has postponed or or del decided not to release a demo for
their new game because they don't want it to be reverse engineered by an AI.

877
00:53:13,264 --> 00:53:14,946
What the heck is this about?

878
00:53:15,408 --> 00:53:23,362
So those that don't know, we've been seeing a huge influx of games quote unquote getting
ported to PC, getting huge

879
00:53:23,362 --> 00:53:26,084
recomps, decomps, all that stuff.

880
00:53:26,084 --> 00:53:30,966
And that does and we've even seen the likes of ~ Photoshop get decomped.

881
00:53:30,966 --> 00:53:31,616
And if

882
00:53:31,616 --> 00:53:38,630
Adobe software can be decomped, then I don't know if I don't know if there's anything that
can't be decomped at this point.

883
00:53:38,694 --> 00:53:39,596
Mm.

884
00:53:40,139 --> 00:53:41,460
And this includes this indie game.

885
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:48,963
And so this was this game, Drunken Got Us Reflux, was actually featured on the Triple I
Initiative livestream that we talked about last week.

886
00:53:48,963 --> 00:53:49,323
Mm.

887
00:53:49,323 --> 00:53:58,726
And it's gotten 50 it's 500,000 wish lists, and it's apparently reached the top 100 ~ wish
listed titles on Steam.

888
00:53:58,726 --> 00:53:59,226
Mm.

889
00:53:59,226 --> 00:54:01,587
So there's there are some eyes on this.

890
00:54:02,268 --> 00:54:05,039
But they have decided to restrict the demo for two reasons.

891
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:09,150
First and foremost is that they initially plan on releasing the demo publicly.

892
00:54:09,210 --> 00:54:16,197
But with restrictions on posting and streaming gameplay videos, but ~ they recognize that
that's not feasible.

893
00:54:16,197 --> 00:54:17,055
Mm-hmm.

894
00:54:17,377 --> 00:54:20,479
Number two is they were worried about it.

895
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:29,247
They said here, we are concerned that based on the content of the demo, works imitating
and replicating this game's presentation and gameplay could be quickly reproduced using AI

896
00:54:29,247 --> 00:54:32,269
or other tools and released ahead of the game's launch.

897
00:54:33,431 --> 00:54:34,311
And

898
00:54:34,812 --> 00:54:37,604
I have looked at it, it seems more possible.

899
00:54:37,956 --> 00:54:39,127
It seems very possible.

900
00:54:39,127 --> 00:54:43,510
We've seen ~ games get like cloned before release.

901
00:54:43,711 --> 00:54:50,296
And a lot of indie devs are very concerned that 'cause they wanna share they wanna share
progress, right?

902
00:54:50,416 --> 00:54:50,807
They wanna

903
00:54:50,807 --> 00:54:52,537
share their development progress.

904
00:54:52,718 --> 00:55:03,896
But if someone just takes all that materials and just recreates it from scratch, then you
know their game idea gets ripped off and that ripoff artist gets their game out before the

905
00:55:03,896 --> 00:55:05,080
actual one does.

906
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:05,804
Mm.

907
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:07,620
Of course

908
00:55:07,974 --> 00:55:08,788
I don't know.

909
00:55:09,946 --> 00:55:18,587
Yeah, here's the thing, it's like it's like, yeah, I can understand n being protective
about your game because

910
00:55:19,448 --> 00:55:28,746
you put all this time and effort into making a game and then you go to release it on Steam
and it gets like what, two thousand downloads?

911
00:55:28,746 --> 00:55:34,129
Wasn't that like the median purchase amount for indie games on Steam?

912
00:55:34,410 --> 00:55:36,431
We talked about that a couple weeks ago.

913
00:55:36,832 --> 00:55:41,395
~ so like pr you know, protecting all of that makes a lot of sense.

914
00:55:41,576 --> 00:55:44,558
~ but on the other hand,

915
00:55:44,751 --> 00:55:55,898
I I and I can understand ~ especially not wanting to release the demo for free so that
people could reverse engineer that and you know, put it on Steam and rip them off.

916
00:55:55,898 --> 00:55:57,369
Like I totally understand that.

917
00:55:57,369 --> 00:56:00,781
So it's just it sucks, man.

918
00:56:00,781 --> 00:56:04,162
Like, why are we doing why are we doing this shit?

919
00:56:05,654 --> 00:56:13,237
And I've I have seen some concerns a lot of concerns about people like ripping in the
games off and putting them on Roblox and

920
00:56:13,237 --> 00:56:16,779
then just making more money than the original devs themselves too.

921
00:56:17,939 --> 00:56:20,180
In fact, I saw this happen to one game.

922
00:56:20,180 --> 00:56:27,043
It's a simple sounding game where you just punch a bunch of blocks and then you get
upgrades to do that to ~

923
00:56:27,243 --> 00:56:29,404
dig into a wall even further.

924
00:56:29,564 --> 00:56:33,392
You know how like you use a spoon to like dig out the prison cell wall?

925
00:56:33,392 --> 00:56:34,207
Mm.

926
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,921
A game that concept, but ~ apparently it's been ripped off on Roblox and it's made a
shitload of money.

927
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,450
So it seems like

928
00:56:46,450 --> 00:56:47,798
I don't know.

929
00:56:49,424 --> 00:56:50,646
Seems like what?

930
00:56:51,022 --> 00:56:51,542
I don't know.

931
00:56:51,542 --> 00:56:53,282
I I I don't know what to make of this.

932
00:56:53,282 --> 00:56:59,013
This is something that we've never genuinely Like, ripoffs have existed before AI, don't
get me wrong.

933
00:56:59,013 --> 00:56:59,785
Right.

934
00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:11,501
But you would hit you'd typically have to actually play the game, actually know how to
code, and then you'd come out sometime after and then people would recognize it.

935
00:57:11,501 --> 00:57:15,644
But if the ripoff comes out first and the actual game comes out second, then

936
00:57:15,644 --> 00:57:17,766
like what?

937
00:57:17,872 --> 00:57:18,782
Yeah.

938
00:57:18,883 --> 00:57:23,544
That's that is ~ quite precarious of a situation to be in.

939
00:57:23,544 --> 00:57:28,491
I I don't blame them for wanting to withhold the demo.

940
00:57:29,152 --> 00:57:35,096
~ but it also sucks 'cause that's gonna be like detrimental to Steam Next Fest, right?

941
00:57:35,096 --> 00:57:37,678
Right, and the Steam Next Fest i is around the corner.

942
00:57:37,678 --> 00:57:43,634
In fact, I I think this was probably gonna be part of the next fest, to be honest.

943
00:57:44,335 --> 00:57:47,918
I suspect it was gonna be part of the next fest, because the timing is

944
00:57:50,596 --> 00:57:51,968
God damn it.

945
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:54,436
The Steam Fest has already been suffering from AI.

946
00:57:54,436 --> 00:57:56,997
Now actual developers are taking their games out.

947
00:57:56,997 --> 00:57:57,424
Yeah.

948
00:57:57,424 --> 00:57:58,825
God damn it.

949
00:57:59,557 --> 00:58:03,469
Yeah, it's ~ it sucks.

950
00:58:03,507 --> 00:58:08,331
~ but you know what else you know what else sucks?

951
00:58:08,331 --> 00:58:10,712
The Entertainment Software Association.

952
00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:12,161
~ no.

953
00:58:12,161 --> 00:58:14,051
This is the this is the this

954
00:58:14,051 --> 00:58:16,632
is the topic I wanted Russ to talk about.

955
00:58:16,632 --> 00:58:17,684
Yeah.

956
00:58:18,009 --> 00:58:20,015
Doesn't look like he's joining us, huh?

957
00:58:20,621 --> 00:58:21,327
No.

958
00:58:21,327 --> 00:58:27,453
so we're gonna resched he's yeah, he said that his studio is thirty minutes away and ~

959
00:58:27,453 --> 00:58:30,205
he would have to reschedule it, so we're gonna we'll

960
00:58:30,205 --> 00:58:30,495
do that.

961
00:58:30,495 --> 00:58:41,024
But essentially the ESA, the Entertainment Software Association, the big players of the
gaming industry in the US, they're also behind the ESRB.

962
00:58:41,425 --> 00:58:41,655
They

963
00:58:41,655 --> 00:58:48,100
want the government to investigate Amberick specifically, but not just Ambernik though,
the entire emulation handheld market period.

964
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:48,914
Mm.

965
00:58:49,612 --> 00:58:58,965
And Brennick was singled out because they just make a shitload of produ they make a bunch
of products and sometimes sometimes they'll even ship these products with ROMs.

966
00:58:59,160 --> 00:58:59,711
Really?

967
00:58:59,711 --> 00:59:01,203
Do th do they do that?

968
00:59:01,203 --> 00:59:04,197
I've never had an Amberic device do that.

969
00:59:04,670 --> 00:59:10,270
~ I and Bernic shipping with ROMs.

970
00:59:14,086 --> 00:59:18,428
See because I read this article and I was like, they don't do that.

971
00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:22,361
Cause I like Ambernik sends me devices all the time.

972
00:59:22,361 --> 00:59:25,753
I have a couple Ambernic devices and so does Dash.

973
00:59:26,254 --> 00:59:28,655
~ and I don't think that they ship with ROMs.

974
00:59:28,655 --> 00:59:32,772
It's so f it would be so stupid of them to ship with ROMs.

975
00:59:32,772 --> 00:59:39,804
Some companies do ship with ROMs though, and I have experien Yeah, ~ Trimi Y has shipped
me

976
00:59:39,804 --> 00:59:43,005
a device with ROMs twice.

977
00:59:43,085 --> 00:59:46,326
Both the devices I reviewed for them have had ROMs on them.

978
00:59:47,386 --> 00:59:47,786
And I

979
00:59:47,786 --> 00:59:52,207
always point out that no, you shouldn't be doing that 'cause that's super illegal.

980
00:59:52,207 --> 00:59:52,537
And it's

981
00:59:52,537 --> 00:59:56,098
not like just ROMs of old retro games that you legally can't buy anymore.

982
00:59:56,098 --> 01:00:02,235
They ship out like port master ports of like games that are sold today, like bel I like I
shit you're not.

983
01:00:02,235 --> 01:00:03,247
Bellatro was on there.

984
01:00:03,247 --> 01:00:05,049
Yeah,

985
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,602
no, you shouldn't do that.

986
01:00:06,682 --> 01:00:07,440
No.

987
01:00:09,572 --> 01:00:15,024
So anyways, they're they request Ambernick be classified as quote super fake.

988
01:00:17,118 --> 01:00:18,601
And I

989
01:00:18,601 --> 01:00:22,848
don't know what the term entails, besides I've heard them being

990
01:00:22,848 --> 01:00:31,333
referred I've heard super fake being referred to by like handbags, people that make like
fake ~ Chanel and shit like that.

991
01:00:31,333 --> 01:00:32,213
Mm-hmm.

992
01:00:33,072 --> 01:00:37,164
But I've never I but this is the first time I've heard of it outside of like

993
01:00:38,734 --> 01:00:42,901
S I in the gaming industry.

994
01:00:43,046 --> 01:00:43,948
Mm.

995
01:00:46,323 --> 01:00:57,903
The super fakes are, I believe, ~ because like super fakes are like nearly
indistinguishable from the original product, and that's why they're considered super fake.

996
01:00:58,125 --> 01:00:58,925
~

997
01:00:59,450 --> 01:01:03,150
I don't know if I would consider Ambernik's products indistinguishable from the original.

998
01:01:03,150 --> 01:01:03,440
Right.

999
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:08,975
Well this is why the ESA, the ESA are hysterical, ~ fearmongering assholes.

1000
01:01:08,975 --> 01:01:12,518
They they th nothing that they say should ever be taken seriously.

1001
01:01:12,518 --> 01:01:18,362
They s they tried to say that ~ Minecra like private Minecraft servers are piracy.

1002
01:01:18,362 --> 01:01:20,944
Like they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

1003
01:01:20,944 --> 01:01:27,729
Or they know they should know better, and if they don't, then they shouldn't represent the
industry, and if they do, they're absolute liars.

1004
01:01:28,142 --> 01:01:30,683
Well, I would argue they do know what they're talking about.

1005
01:01:30,683 --> 01:01:32,283
And yeah,

1006
01:01:32,643 --> 01:01:39,785
and they have a very good they have a very good motivation they have good motivations to b
ban private servers.

1007
01:01:39,785 --> 01:01:40,705
Yes.

1008
01:01:41,026 --> 01:01:49,448
I will say though, ~ I'm looking at some of the Ambernik devices, and while some of them
definitely do not look like any existing handhelds, a lot of them don't look like any

1009
01:01:49,448 --> 01:01:54,189
existing handhelds, the D the D D S looks pretty convincing.

1010
01:01:54,289 --> 01:01:56,740
It kinda does look like a three D S almost.

1011
01:01:56,941 --> 01:01:57,791
Yes.

1012
01:01:57,791 --> 01:01:59,604
The D D S looks like a three DS.

1013
01:01:59,604 --> 01:02:05,251
The they have a mini, the RG fifty five G one I believe looks like a Switch light.

1014
01:02:05,251 --> 01:02:06,286
~

1015
01:02:06,286 --> 01:02:09,733
The D S plus looks like a like a standard D S.

1016
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:14,094
The RG S P

1017
01:02:14,094 --> 01:02:14,335
the

1018
01:02:14,335 --> 01:02:14,775
Vita.

1019
01:02:14,775 --> 01:02:17,197
They have one that looks just like a a Vita.

1020
01:02:18,318 --> 01:02:20,440
Yeah, they have one that looks like a Game Boy Advanced SP.

1021
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:26,184
So I could so the super fake ~ accusation.

1022
01:02:27,006 --> 01:02:30,789
The problem though is that you can't put real Game Boy games in here.

1023
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:31,630
At least not like

1024
01:02:31,630 --> 01:02:33,431
the cartridges, anyhow.

1025
01:02:34,032 --> 01:02:35,853
You can't put any DS cartridges in here.

1026
01:02:35,853 --> 01:02:37,554
There are no cartridge slots.

1027
01:02:37,655 --> 01:02:38,145
And that's

1028
01:02:38,145 --> 01:02:43,230
that's like a hundred percent the func the like purpose of its existence to play those
games.

1029
01:02:43,230 --> 01:02:46,342
And if it can't do that, then can you really call it a super fake?

1030
01:02:47,962 --> 01:02:57,449
Yeah, and if it's like ~ those none of those consoles are still on the market, like
they're not competing for the market the market share.

1031
01:02:57,449 --> 01:03:00,595
So they're not super fake that way either, I don't think.

1032
01:03:00,595 --> 01:03:06,936
yeah, we're not buying counterfeit Chanel bags to wear to pretend like we're like Chanel
models or some bullshit like that.

1033
01:03:06,936 --> 01:03:07,886
Right.

1034
01:03:09,028 --> 01:03:12,510
~ it's so f fucking silly, dude.

1035
01:03:15,233 --> 01:03:16,794
yeah, I don't know.

1036
01:03:16,794 --> 01:03:20,617
I wonder if Ambernik will ever make a a Steam Deck like

1037
01:03:22,306 --> 01:03:25,348
A steam deck like that's like the size of a steam deck?

1038
01:03:25,348 --> 01:03:25,981
Yeah.

1039
01:03:25,981 --> 01:03:30,186
W but with a ~ arm core, that would be kinda

1040
01:03:30,186 --> 01:03:30,977
neat.

1041
01:03:31,050 --> 01:03:34,515
it would be kinda funny, but they tend to be on the weaker side.

1042
01:03:34,515 --> 01:03:37,918
They're not ~ nearly as powerful as the Ein Thor, which

1043
01:03:38,019 --> 01:03:47,277
by the way, the Ein Thor does not look like a well ~ I'm not gonna say it doesn't look
like a three DS, but it's not like a super fake in the sense in that sense.

1044
01:03:47,277 --> 01:03:48,247
Right.

1045
01:03:48,669 --> 01:04:00,712
But speaking of the Steam Deck though, Helix SR has added or the Helix SR mod adds DLSS
three point seven to the Steam Deck.

1046
01:04:00,712 --> 01:04:04,716
~ and other AOD handhelds, which is kinda interesting.

1047
01:04:04,716 --> 01:04:06,828
DLSS 3.7.

1048
01:04:07,309 --> 01:04:07,718
~

1049
01:04:07,718 --> 01:04:10,192
Apparently runs better than FSR four.

1050
01:04:10,192 --> 01:04:10,924
Mm-hmm.

1051
01:04:10,924 --> 01:04:14,049
How is this even possi How what?

1052
01:04:14,531 --> 01:04:16,676
How is something like this even possible?

1053
01:04:16,676 --> 01:04:20,184
That is a good question and I don't know the answer.

1054
01:04:20,846 --> 01:04:27,406
So there's also the GitHub page I linked up too, so essentially it y

1055
01:04:27,613 --> 01:04:31,442
yeah, let's let's open that GitHub page real quick and then we'll watch that video.

1056
01:04:31,442 --> 01:04:33,027
~

1057
01:04:33,027 --> 01:04:40,345
d the DLSS model E network as standard direct 3D twelve compute shaders.

1058
01:04:40,990 --> 01:04:42,470
~ interesting.

1059
01:04:42,672 --> 01:04:45,010
So it's not using the tensor cores.

1060
01:04:45,010 --> 01:04:47,567
~ or rock really.

1061
01:04:47,567 --> 01:04:52,321
It's so what is how is it's just running on the as shaders.

1062
01:04:53,203 --> 01:04:54,944
Whoa, dude.

1063
01:04:54,944 --> 01:04:56,706
That's interesting.

1064
01:04:58,542 --> 01:05:01,341
So my point No.

1065
01:05:01,341 --> 01:05:03,873
so okay, so Nvidia has CUDA, right?

1066
01:05:03,873 --> 01:05:08,056
Which is like their their discrete compute unit ~ architecture.

1067
01:05:08,056 --> 01:05:10,178
Yeah,

1068
01:05:10,178 --> 01:05:14,292
and so but NVIDIA, my god, sorry.

1069
01:05:14,292 --> 01:05:16,184
AMD has Rock right?

1070
01:05:16,184 --> 01:05:24,981
Rock ~ are like is like the the library that you use to to do this similar compute, ~
accelerated compute like that.

1071
01:05:25,082 --> 01:05:25,669
~

1072
01:05:25,669 --> 01:05:26,212
Right.

1073
01:05:26,212 --> 01:05:35,746
And so they're just using these as shaders rather than as like compute units or something,
which is just nuts.

1074
01:05:35,966 --> 01:05:44,150
Because as far as I understand it, shaders have far less ~ ability to do like actual

1075
01:05:44,444 --> 01:05:55,919
they can do computations, but they can't really do logic very well compared to ~ the CPU
like the GPU which can do or the CPU which can do ~ control flow logic and stuff like

1076
01:05:55,919 --> 01:05:56,229
that.

1077
01:05:56,229 --> 01:05:58,502
So I don't know, dude.

1078
01:05:58,502 --> 01:06:00,044
That's pretty neat.

1079
01:06:02,979 --> 01:06:07,341
And yet somehow this runs better than FSR four.

1080
01:06:07,461 --> 01:06:07,632
At

1081
01:06:07,632 --> 01:06:09,583
least according to some preliminary benchmarks.

1082
01:06:09,583 --> 01:06:12,104
I mean, I'd have to I wonder

1083
01:06:12,104 --> 01:06:13,805
if the Fox will cover this.

1084
01:06:14,005 --> 01:06:16,152
We should just leave all the benchmarking to him.

1085
01:06:16,152 --> 01:06:16,643
Yeah.

1086
01:06:16,643 --> 01:06:18,627
Let's look at this video here.

1087
01:06:18,627 --> 01:06:19,698
Is there audio?

1088
01:06:19,698 --> 01:06:20,930
It's music.

1089
01:06:22,253 --> 01:06:23,014
~

1090
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,080
So let's look at the ~ let's get to actual gameplay, huh?

1091
01:06:32,964 --> 01:06:33,814
Alright.

1092
01:06:34,615 --> 01:06:36,435
So here's Cyberpunk.

1093
01:06:37,795 --> 01:06:43,137
For the audio listeners, I'm gonna try to describe what we're seeing.

1094
01:06:44,797 --> 01:06:48,318
Well, okay, so they're they're like pixel peeping a little bit.

1095
01:06:48,318 --> 01:06:57,201
They're showing ~ FSR 3X running on a Radeon RX fifty-seven hundred XT.

1096
01:06:57,201 --> 01:07:01,342
~ that's crazy.

1097
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:04,798
Nvidia's not gonna be happy about this.

1098
01:07:04,798 --> 01:07:08,338
This is this they're g wow.

1099
01:07:08,338 --> 01:07:10,271
is not gonna be happy about this either.

1100
01:07:10,373 --> 01:07:11,273
Why not?

1101
01:07:11,336 --> 01:07:15,372
Cause it shows that FSR sucks compared to DLSS.

1102
01:07:15,372 --> 01:07:18,935
Well but I think they are pretty self effacing about that.

1103
01:07:18,935 --> 01:07:20,866
It's not anywhere near as good.

1104
01:07:21,047 --> 01:07:35,978
I think honestly, I think AMD will would be happier about this because it shows that FSR
is capable of running on ~ I mean DLSS is capable of running on hardware.

1105
01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:37,870
like Nvidia hardware.

1106
01:07:37,870 --> 01:07:39,992
Or my god, I can't think today.

1107
01:07:39,992 --> 01:07:40,941
AMD hardware.

1108
01:07:40,941 --> 01:07:41,801
AMD hardware.

1109
01:07:41,801 --> 01:07:48,915
So yes, and ~ DLSS is capable of running on hardware other than Nvidia hardware.

1110
01:07:48,915 --> 01:07:50,386
Which of course it is, right?

1111
01:07:50,386 --> 01:08:06,124
~ but ~ this, I mean what we're seeing here, we're seeing a comparison between ~ FSR 3.1.5
quality versus DLSS 3.7 quality versus FSR four point one point one quality.

1112
01:08:06,164 --> 01:08:09,906
And ~ so FSR

1113
01:08:10,384 --> 01:08:17,436
three point one has a frame rate of what is that ~ nine ninety eight ~ frames per second.

1114
01:08:17,616 --> 01:08:34,661
The DLSS three point seven has eighty six FPS and FSR four point one has seventy FPS and
if you look like they're doing they're like zooming in on the same area of the image and

1115
01:08:34,661 --> 01:08:39,782
you can s like I think the DLSS actually looks the best out of out of all of these.

1116
01:08:40,310 --> 01:08:46,052
~ there's some jaggies and some ~ artifacts in the in the FSR.

1117
01:08:46,062 --> 01:08:51,746
Yeah, it's got that FSR shimmer, especially if you go back a few seconds and look at the ~
rotating holographic display.

1118
01:08:51,746 --> 01:08:53,470
Yeah, look at that.

1119
01:08:53,470 --> 01:08:53,790
That's

1120
01:08:53,790 --> 01:08:54,867
disgusting.

1121
01:08:54,867 --> 01:08:55,297
Yeah.

1122
01:08:55,297 --> 01:09:00,642
And and even ~ FSR four point one ha has ~ some of that shimmer in it too.

1123
01:09:00,642 --> 01:09:05,718
~ but I will say the hologram looks quite soft in D L S as well.

1124
01:09:06,296 --> 01:09:09,487
I think it's I think it just doesn't do well with holograms, period.

1125
01:09:09,487 --> 01:09:10,015
Yeah.

1126
01:09:10,015 --> 01:09:13,080
I'm not sh like upscaling in general.

1127
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:20,196
Yeah, it's really noticeable too with the the shimmer with in when it's moving here.

1128
01:09:20,196 --> 01:09:29,282
Like you're moving down the street and like areas of high contrast have exceptionally bad
~ shimmer to them.

1129
01:09:31,150 --> 01:09:32,030
~

1130
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:34,753
Hm.

1131
01:09:35,890 --> 01:09:41,958
~ I'm more curious about if we can do this on an Ein Thor, but probably not, right?

1132
01:09:41,958 --> 01:09:45,383
~ well I mean the Thor has shaders.

1133
01:09:45,383 --> 01:09:55,118
I don't know if it has enough to be able to do this, but it that would be freaking cool to
do FSR on on the Thor.

1134
01:09:55,118 --> 01:09:56,098
Man.

1135
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,221
That would be cool, dude.

1136
01:09:58,681 --> 01:10:00,558
We should get Russ to try it out.

1137
01:10:00,558 --> 01:10:01,348
Yeah.

1138
01:10:01,728 --> 01:10:03,674
Cause I don't feel like doing this right now.

1139
01:10:03,791 --> 01:10:04,652
Right.

1140
01:10:05,418 --> 01:10:06,339
Wow.

1141
01:10:06,402 --> 01:10:07,946
That's really awesome.

1142
01:10:08,812 --> 01:10:09,693
And

1143
01:10:11,337 --> 01:10:12,110
And

1144
01:10:12,110 --> 01:10:15,337
I think that's all the stories we had for this week.

1145
01:10:15,337 --> 01:10:16,228
Wow.

1146
01:10:16,836 --> 01:10:20,292
Yeah, we honestly it was kind of a light episode.

1147
01:10:20,292 --> 01:10:24,839
Well Yeah, without James and without James here we didn't

1148
01:10:24,839 --> 01:10:28,250
really have James really is the heart of the show, isn't he?

1149
01:10:28,250 --> 01:10:29,271
He is, dude.

1150
01:10:29,271 --> 01:10:31,912
He can t you get him talking about AI stuff.

1151
01:10:32,633 --> 01:10:36,676
and he can he can, you know, tell you his thoughts.

1152
01:10:36,676 --> 01:10:38,517
I I love James, by the way.

1153
01:10:38,517 --> 01:10:40,248
I think he's awesome.

1154
01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:44,368
Yeah, James we we had a pr we Yeah, James is a pretty cool guy.

1155
01:10:44,368 --> 01:10:47,054
I've spoken with him multiple times before this podcast.

1156
01:10:47,054 --> 01:10:47,916
Yeah.

1157
01:10:48,044 --> 01:10:53,774
And ~ we got this podcast together and ~ it's been hell of a good time.

1158
01:10:54,158 --> 01:10:54,818
Agreed.

1159
01:10:54,818 --> 01:10:59,405
I am I'm grateful that you included me in this when you were setting it up.

1160
01:10:59,588 --> 01:11:10,388
Yeah, that's been yeah, it's I've been trying to get a podcast starter for a while now and
I figured we got some heavy hitters in the had some heavy hitters in the space.

1161
01:11:10,469 --> 01:11:10,839
Figured

1162
01:11:10,839 --> 01:11:11,830
why not?

1163
01:11:12,782 --> 01:11:13,623
Yep.

1164
01:11:14,248 --> 01:11:16,293
Well, hi tech.

1165
01:11:16,557 --> 01:11:18,280
Thank you for joining me today.

1166
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:21,060
Yeah, thank you for having me.

1167
01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:25,171
Any any parting words for our our viewers there?

1168
01:11:25,926 --> 01:11:27,217
~

1169
01:11:30,498 --> 01:11:33,805
I don't I don't I don't have anything worth yeah.

1170
01:11:34,448 --> 01:11:39,308
Play Muramasa, ~ Revenant Blades when it comes out.

1171
01:11:39,363 --> 01:11:40,303
Mm.

1172
01:11:41,106 --> 01:11:41,707
Nice.

1173
01:11:41,707 --> 01:11:43,669
I I don't even think I've heard of that.

1174
01:11:44,740 --> 01:11:46,232
It's a vanillaware game.

1175
01:11:46,294 --> 01:11:46,945
But I think

1176
01:11:46,945 --> 01:11:47,366
you'll like it.

1177
01:11:47,366 --> 01:11:49,560
I think I think you'll like it, Gardener.

1178
01:11:50,130 --> 01:11:51,115
I feel like I

1179
01:11:51,115 --> 01:11:53,528
say that about every game I tell you to play, but

1180
01:11:53,528 --> 01:11:55,272
Is it like uppercase?

1181
01:11:55,970 --> 01:11:57,780
It's not like uppercase.

1182
01:11:59,232 --> 01:12:00,213
Okay.

1183
01:12:00,614 --> 01:12:00,994
Alright.

1184
01:12:00,994 --> 01:12:03,613
Well, then I'll I'll have to give it a try.

1185
01:12:03,613 --> 01:12:09,002
I I if it was too much like uppercase I would I I would be a little burnt out on puzzle
games, but

1186
01:12:09,158 --> 01:12:10,545
Don't worry, it's not a puzzle game.

1187
01:12:10,545 --> 01:12:12,016
Okay, cool.

1188
01:12:12,016 --> 01:12:14,048
Alright,

1189
01:12:14,048 --> 01:12:15,099
thanks for watching everybody.

1190
01:12:15,099 --> 01:12:16,934
We'll see you next week.

1191
01:12:16,934 --> 01:12:18,553
Alright, see ya later.

1192
01:12:18,553 --> 01:12:19,281
Bye.

1193
01:12:19,281 --> 01:12:20,281
Bye bye.