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And today you'll notice it's just me.
That's because, uh, we've all agreed to take the week
off and give you guys a show.
You won't forget a clip show.
So I have curated.
A list of a few, uh, of my favorite moments and honestly some other,
you know, high tech and, uh, gardener's favorite moments too.
It's not just me, but I did, I did make sure to get some really good ones.
And then we also make sure to include some guests in there.
So you're gonna be like, if you missed one episode or if you feel like you
missed maybe some moments this year or even last year, I have a little bit from
the last year that you'll, uh, you'll be able to catch up on some of the, the best
and funniest moments of this podcast.
So let us know in the comments which one was your favorite.
If we miss some, maybe there's something that's even better
that you like, let us know.
So just like we like to do every week, what have we been doing this week?
Well, it's Thanksgiving stuff.
We've all been stuffing our faces with Turkey stuffing and what
else we love during the holidays.
With that being said, enjoy these clips and let us know once again.
Which is your favorite?
One interesting thing I learned from your article with the Verge was your
rank that you ended up, uh, retiring as you're a real life master chief.
Yeah, I was a master chief.
I actually held that rank longer than any other rank I was in.
It's an E nine, so it's like the highest enlisted rank.
And I, I hit it really early in my career.
I was a linguist.
And a thing about linguists in general is that, um.
They're multi-talented for the most part.
Like, it's, it's just kind of a thing like, oh yeah, I speak these languages
and I also do all these other things.
And so as a result, uh, retention is really hard for linguists in the
military because they've got other skills and they're like, yep, I, I
did my four years and now I'm gonna go off and do some other thing, you know?
And, and so that doesn't typically happen with the other, um, ratings
or jobs within the military.
And so.
As a result, advancement, if you do happen to stay in like ranking up is
pretty quick, you know, if you, if you're in the right place at the right time.
So I was very lucky and I made all the way to E nine in the first 15 years,
which generally average is like 22 years, and so got super lucky about that.
And so yeah, I ended up being a master chief for about seven or
eight years of my service and.
It's not, it's in, in the Navy.
It's like, okay, yeah, he's a master chief or whatever.
But like when you say that outside of the Navy, it is so strange for everybody else.
Like, wait, you a master chief?
Like, yeah, that was my rank.
I was master chief, you know, no helmet.
Uh, but yes, uh, it was pretty cool.
So
I think you need a helmet.
Your, I think he, I think he needs a weapon.
Oh, weapon.
Yeah.
The
ar.
Yeah.
Or the vr vr.
So what, what, what were you, what languages were,
were you a master chief of.
Uh, so I started as a Russian translator.
So there's a school in Monterey, California, so they, like they send you
there, you have to take all these tests ahead of time to see whether or not
you could learn a language, you know?
So I went there for about two years, you know, and, and, and just basically
learn Russian from scratch and, um, all day, every day, just learning that.
And then after that, um, September 11th happened, and so they
expanded an amount of languages.
'cause at the time they were just focusing on like cold war.
Style, languages, you know, stuff you can probably expect, you know.
Um, and so then they, they threw me in a class for Indonesian.
Um, basically they were like, well, it's the largest Muslim country in the world.
We have no idea.
Let's just, you know, let's build a troop of people who can speak it.
And so I was like one of five people, um, that spoke Indonesian.
But the thing is, you know, in the military, and I think everywhere,
you know, the, the higher you rank up, the less you actually do the
work, the more you're leading others.
And so by the time I was in like 10 years in, I was rarely working with language.
I was just, you know, policy and, and, and things like that.
And so, yeah, a lot of fun.
Um, but unfortunately, yeah, not enough time with the languages I ranked up
too fast, which is kind of a bummer.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I know some Russians, so that kind of hits for me.
Nice.
Awesome.
I don't know any.
Well, I, I know, I know Vietnamese, but that's 'cause I'm, uh, Vietnamese.
Awesome.
Fun fact.
I, I think a, yeah, I know a little bit of cling on.
Nice.
I can, you just have to sound like you're like really guttural, right?
Yeah.
Does make it sound like clean hook.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna do it 'cause it's embarrassing.
Come on Gardner.
No.
What's funny is that when I first learned language, I, I thought that Russian was
gonna sound like cling on, you know, I could always heard like hard Russians,
whatever it is not, it's actually a very like, soft language when spoken, you know,
natively, you know, and, uh, something I just didn't understand and and appreciate
at the time and a lot of French influence in, in Russia, you know, from Yeah.
Back in the times of, uh, Peter the great and whatnot and so.
A lot of the accent and, and mannerisms and stuff actually are more
Indo-European on the Western side.
And so that was something I, I did not understand at the time.
I thought it was just gonna be all these people, you know, talking
hard about vodka or whatever.
And it turns out no, it's a very complex and deep language.
It's pretty cool.
Different, different dialects will be a little bit more guttural.
Um, there's a couple of, uh, letters that are a little bit
harder but are harsher, but yeah, it's, yeah, not what you'd expect.
And it depends on who's speaking it.
Yeah.
Right.
No, I, I lived in the Samara region.
We don't need to get into this 'cause we need to get back into
the game topics, but I lived in the Samara region for two years, so.
Oh, awesome.
That's cool.
That sounds pretty nice, eh?
It was interesting.
Every indication out of Xbox recently has seemed like they want to move
away from doing hardware and they want to like, they want to like
kind of retire the Xbox console.
Brand.
So if they moved, if they do this, are they going to be fully committed to it?
Because they've kind of like ruined the trust of most Xbox fans Uhhuh by just
not having like exclusives on their platform to sell the consoles to make
the value of your investment buying the console worth any amount of money.
It's like, I don't know, it just seems ridiculous to me
that they would be doing this.
Teasing more hardware when they're, they look to be getting
outta the hardware market.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I, I agree with that notion.
And have you seen the, uh, this is an Xbox marketing campaign that they
started doing like a few days ago?
No.
Oh gosh.
So basically it's like an image.
It's a matrix of like images that show that, uh, all these products are Xbox.
Like I got, I got, I gotta pull up.
So as you can see here, there are multiple products here that,
uh, are quote unquote Xbox.
So we have the Xbox.
Oh my God.
And then we have, they're like Microsoft.
Wait, what, what phone is this?
I dunno what phone this is, but it's an Xbox.
Apparently.
You know, this laptop, it's also an Xbox.
This, however, is a Bento box.
It's not an Xbox.
Not yet.
At least something's gonna make it happen though, I promise you.
Oh my gosh.
And then, uh, what is this?
Oh, that's an Ally X.
That's also an Xbox.
Wow.
They already have a handheld featured right there.
That's crazy, right?
Dude,
how come Microsoft is so good at being bad at marketing?
This is a new meme template that they just dropped, like this is, oh my God,
I can't believe how OB obtuse they are.
This might be good marketing if it depends on what they're trying to shoot
for, because if they were shooting for meme mobility, then sometimes.
People making fun of your thing still gets you awareness, but we'll
see.
I just don't see, like, you know, if someone puts a, a, you know, a
Samsung Smart fridge in here and being like, this is an Xbox, I don't
see how that does any good for them.
Like,
do you guys own a Samsung Smart Fridge?
I have, I have a, it's not technically a smart fridge, but yeah, I have a, a
Samsung fridge that connects to wifi.
Does it have a touchscreen?
Does it run Android?
No, no,
no.
Touchscreen.
I'm not not sure what it runs, but uh, it tells me when the
filter needs to be, um, changed.
Well, that's not,
well, that's not enough.
It needs to play Xbox games, man.
It needs a stream.
I know, dude.
It needs a stream.
Xbox Games.
I need an Xbox Series refrigerator, dude.
It's what I need.
Powered by Samsung.
Oh
yeah, man.
It's refrigerant cooled.
Here's the thing, dude.
Here's the thing about this, it, it's worse.
The refrigerator is worse at, uh, refrigerating when you're playing games.
That's, that's the, that's the kicker.
That's
kicker.
Ah, man, can I overclock my fridge?
That's what I really want to do.
I feel like with that much cooling, I can overclock it.
Um,
I, I'm down, I'm down for a fridge, uh, PC case.
We already know like the down, I did a, I did a poll on my channel.
Early this week.
Like what are you here for with the game industry right now?
Like what's your more, most interested in?
People are like the down, the downfall of aa.
That's
what they put, that the
winning, oh
my God.
I think I, there is some legitimacy to that though.
I think Trip, some AAA games are truly amazing and I don't wanna
see like all of them go down.
But I think some of the bigger studios or bigger publishers
have gotten very comfortable.
Being a little bit more on the greedy side, you know, and, and, and I
think the, the one that comes to my mind the most is probably Ubisoft
God, you know,
with, with their reliance on the, you know, Ubisoft Connect and then the way
they started going into Epic games and they just refused to come back to Steam.
And that's changed recently.
I mean, they just released Star Wars outlaws on Steam and they're releasing
Assassin's Creed shadows on Steam day one.
So it looks like they're starting to turn over and be like, okay, maybe we should.
Not keep doing this, but they were very pushy about going into their
own, going through their own DRM.
And you still do have to, it's just now you can do it through Steam.
And then there's like PlayStation when they started injecting the
PlayStation overlay into their games.
And, you know, that locks out the, the entire multiplayer section of Go Sima.
Like we can't play that.
Even though it's not around anymore Concord, we can, we wouldn't
be able to play that because there's no support for Linux.
So, and then we have companies like Rockstar with GTA and they
implemented Battle I into GTA online, but refuse to enable it for Linux.
So you can't play it on Steam Deck anymore, like.
I can see why a lot of people would want the downfall of AAA games, but
then you still have games like, you know, that are on the game of the year
list, like Metaphor Refund, like that's a, that's AAA game, but it's amazing.
But, but their studio and their, um, yeah, it's Atlas, yeah.
They have a very strong directive, or like direction, like they're mm-hmm.
They make very similar games.
They're very, uh, thought provoking and I'd be really shocked if
they deviated a lot of them.
I feel like.
I believe it's a Japanese, uh, studio too, right?
Yeah.
They're under Sega too.
Yeah.
A lot of Japanese Sega is fantastic.
Tend go that developer right now.
They've, they've been crushing it,
so I
will,
my thing is like, I would really like the downfall of publishers.
I don't want Yeah.
AAA developers like studios to go away.
Because what I would like to see is AAA studios making indie
style games and taking risks.
And doing things, and I feel like it's the publishers who have like all
of the financial incentive to like give these studios tons and tons of
money so that they're in debt to them.
Essentially.
It's, it's, it's a totally inverted way of, of like being creative.
It doesn't make any sense.
And so predatory.
It's predatory.
Exactly.
It's
very, it's very predatory.
It's very, it.
What, what it is, is that what happened is a lot of money came
into games, which helped drive like.
We can make a living off of it.
But with it came investors and when you get investment companies and
you're gonna get predatory investment companies come in and what they'll
do is they'll buy up companies for their IP and stuff like that.
Start harvesting embracer.
Yeah.
Like first thought.
And so Exactly.
You're, you're gonna run into that type of thing, which is, it's
hard because if it, if AAA dies.
Those developers are gonna be hurting really hard for a while, and so what needs
to happen either is a huge restructuring of aaa, like leadership at the top that
actually cares, or a monopoly breaking up monopolies or something like that.
But I don't know if that would ever happen.
I, I highly doubt monopoly breakup would happen.
I think a, a restructuring is a really good idea though.
Like, at least for the, the companies that are pushing it too much.
I would say PlayStation, Xbox is absolutely pushing it way too much.
Um, EA definitely does to some degree as well.
Rockstar has been, but there, you know, I think a restructuring for, for.
These companies with, you know, leadership that actually cares
about the games and cares about the gamers themselves would be really
beneficial to the industry as a whole.
So I do wanna say that, um, sorry, I, I just wanna say that, uh, the
games industry, uh, that's part of the reason why I want Bach to win.
'cause I want the major AAA developers, I mean publishers, so to speak.
I just want them to see this game, that one game of the year, and it's
almost entirely gameplay focused.
Um, whereas the GOs sits somewhere in the middle there Right.
And closer to the Steam Deck.
Uh, and so it, you know, it, it just, there's a little bit of like, it, it,
it doesn't feel like the right time.
Um, but I may change my mind once I actually get my hands on it.
It does look really comfortable, for example.
And so maybe it's something that like once I play around with it, it'll,
I, the reason for being will come to my mind, you know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
I'm just really excited about the, uh, the LEDs around the are on the thumb sticks.
It's gonna make it run faster.
Itb you know how it's, it's,
it's like those Nike, uh, like light up shoes that kids
used to wear in the nineties.
Yeah.
You know?
Oh my
God.
Oh, hold up.
I, I like the lights kind of, I just wanna make, I do, I do.
Like, I want, I wanna be able to turn 'em off though too.
Yes.
That'll be interesting to see how they configure that in Steam os.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so for me, I see this device as Steam Deck 1.5.
It's not a Steam Deck Two kind of device.
It has almost everything I want.
The Steam Deck Two to have the performance is what's gonna be the
seller for me, if it feels like it's at least 30% faster than the Steam
Deck, I will most likely buy this.
'cause it has.
Um, I know a few games I've played that the RAM has been the eliminate
the limiter 32 gigabytes of ram.
Yeah.
It has eight inches, which is what I want.
Um, it, it's my favorite size of screen.
It's honestly, pretty much.
Okay, okay.
I, I, I love eight inches.
Um, no.
So, and then,
and then, uh, the battery.
Yeah, battery could be a little higher, uh, I think.
Mm-hmm.
But then it's got the two USB fours, which then I can play around with,
um, egp with Steam Os and stuff.
That'd be really fun to try out.
Yeah.
Uh, just to play, just to play around with, just to see what we can get going.
Uh, it allows for me to play with Steam os more, which I've already
kind of exhausted a lot of stuff on Steam Deck, so That's fair.
That's for, for me, that's kind of where it plays.
I, it'll be interesting to see what the configuration I
want will be priced, but yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm keen on getting more details.
I'm keen on seeing more like actual reviews and comparisons with the Dex
hardware, but I am, I do think that this is good overall, especially
because this is the first non-valve Steam OS device and that, and, and
that means that we're getting Steam os.
Um, so two weeks ago we had 2,620 downloads.
From the podcast, the audio feed, and last week we had 2,220 downloads, so it,
it was almost the number one last week was almost number one and the week before
that was number one, which is pretty cool.
Hell yeah.
You gotta pump
those numbers up.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
You gotta punish Gardner's server like it's all being host on his server.
You gotta punish it.
We gotta get in the terabytes
yourself.
Yeah.
Oh, that is so much work.
It's, it's, there's a great app that does it, that handles most of it for me.
So it's just, um, but it is like a bandwidth thing.
So if you guys want to like, make this cost me a lot of
money, go download the episodes.
Yeah.
If you hate Gardner, just watch the podcast.
Yeah.
Listen.
Listen to the podcast if you hate me because that will, that'll cost me, buddy.
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
Last
episode had, uh, over two terabytes of downloads.
Oh.
There you go.
That's, that's, that's impressive.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Switch to mono.
You guys, we are mono.
We're, I gave, I gave high tech so much crap one time because he uploaded a
stereo version at like NI 192 kilobits.
Do you remember that?
High tech?
Yeah.
I think that was like one or two gigs.
You know Gardner?
Yeah.
I've been super curious since you have a CRT.
Mm-hmm.
What happens if you enable a CRT filter in a game and then play it
with the CRT filter on A-C-R-T-I?
To be honest, I haven't tried that, but that's something I should, uh, look into.
Yeah, record it
too.
You're probably gonna split Earth.
It's just like Facebook.
You should, I wanna see it.
That's why I
asked.
I gonna predict
this.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, I'm gonna predict it's gonna be like extra fuzzy.
Yeah, well with this TV it's like, it's displaying like a seven 20
p progressive like image, so it's not really showing scan lines.
So if I enable scan lines, you'll see them, uh, again, which I, I, and I'm kind
of curious now how it like displays that.
I think it'd be pretty neat.
Do it.
You can have that true feel of a CRT.
Yeah, you don't have a true CRT experience yet.
I, I really wish that CRTs would, would make a comeback.
I really, me do.
Me too.
It was like once, once we know, once we lost it, we like,
we didn't know what we had.
Yeah.
And now
we, and now we know and we can't And they don't make new CRTs anymore now, huh?
There was that brief moment where, uh, they were called scs.
Um, A Canon I believe had a patent on them, and they were basically,
uh, flat, er, CRT, like, um, and they never got traction.
They never, they never came out.
And that was.
25 years ago at this point, uh, that they, that I saw those
at like CES 2000 or whatever.
Ah,
um, it's a long time ago.
This is when CRTs were obviously still around, and this is maybe
2000, 2020 2002 because, you know, plasma was also like a thing.
Uh, these sucked but existed.
It's crazy to think like how long LCDs have been around and
how far they've been improved.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but yeah, when, when you really get down to it, the, the benefits
of CRT are clearly understood.
Only now when we have been like, everyone, I guess thought that
like, oh, well technology will just make these better and eventually
they're gonna be better than CRTs.
But there's like so many things about CR Ts, especially with just
how, you know, the, when you just have scanning that, that fosters.
You know it, the someone, well, what's his name?
Oh goodness lots.
I, I think his last name is lots.
He's a GP, um, uh, programmer.
Uh, he made a CRT bem beam simulation that you can do in a shader
and you can do it on, uh, eds.
And effectively.
Have you ever guys ever used like BFI, uh, black frame insertion?
Yeah.
And so
I saw your
video
on it once, but I think you took it down at one point, didn't you?
For the BFI one I may have, uh, or just temporarily.
In any event, BFI put inserts a black frame.
So if you go in 120 hertz, you have a black frame that's inserted
in between every other frame.
Effectively.
You have 60 FPS, but you're basically putting this black
frame to simulate A-A-C-R-T.
The problem with that is that you are massively going to diminish
your brightness because you're injecting this black frame into them.
So black frame insertion.
It effectively works the similar to how BFI does without any of
the brightness diminishing stuff.
Um, and it's, you have to witness it to see it.
And I, you, you, like, you can't like, take a picture of it.
It's like taking a picture of like, like look at how good this HDR is and
showing someone a picture of that, like you like, well that's not gonna work.
Um, you have to witness it to experience it and the motion
clarity that comes from it.
Is stuff that, you know, CRT stuff we used to just get for free.
Like, there's like a bunch of things that CRT do that just
are, uh, uh, pleasing to the eye.
Um, so yeah, we, we, we lost a lot when, when we left cts and I wish somehow,
um, some way they would come back.
But it looks like, you know, now we're sort of like, you know, OLEDs are
just gonna have quad layers in them and just running them in tandem and
doing a whole bunch of other stuff.
Not to get somewhere.
They have to get somewhere like they're gonna run into someone.
Well, they're, we're gonna, they're gonna only be able to improve so much
to where they're gonna be like, you know what we need CRTs back in space
stations just like an alien or something.
Uh, well stop killing games.
It, it's one of those things that's simple in concept, but it rapidly gets nuanced
depending on how deep you go into it.
Uh, the basic concept is we're trying to legally challenge or put an end
to the practice of publishers selling you a game, not telling you when it's
gonna shut down, then later permanently disabling it and keeping your money.
And we found and.
We found that it's like, well, in my opinion, it's just the most
hostile practice in the game industry towards consumers that there is,
and it's led to more games being effectively destroyed than any other.
Um, so it's always just, I, I've always hated it and the
industry's been promising.
Nothing, uh, but more the industry has been promising more of it.
So what's happened lately though, is we've pursued this in many different ways.
We've.
Tried to do petitions to various governments on it.
Also, there was an ideal game to tackle to bring this issue before consumer
protection agencies in a few countries with the shutdown of the game of the crew.
But the big news right now is one of the most powerful options that we've
pursued is, uh, it's called the European Citizens Initiative, where anyone who's
a citizen of an EU country can sign this, and if it gets over a million signatures.
Then, uh, verified signatures, I should say.
Then it gets, it goes, starts a, a new stage where it gets brought before the EU
commission, and they can decide whether they're gonna make new law on this and
kind of work out the details based on the complaint and that sort of thing.
Right now, the, the UN.
Filtered count is over 1 million.
I think it's over 1.1 million.
So we're really in a good spot at the moment.
However, anytime somebody makes a big mistake or if there is a signature that
wasn't valid, those get thrown out.
So it's kind of a fog where we are exactly, but we for sure have a
chance it it ends at the end of July.
July 31st.
So if I could say one thing, just if you are, if you are an EU citizen,
you know, like France, Germany, Belgium, wherever, and you can
sign it, please consider doing so.
It's.
I think it could actually change gaming history if we can pull
this off for several reasons, but,
mm. Um, I do have one question though.
I believe you also had a separate petition for, um, uh, United Kingdom residents.
Is that correct?
That's
true, yes.
That's going on too.
That one ends on July 14th.
That one's cleared its threshold by a much safer margin.
You can still sign it for safety.
Yeah, it's like down below on that screenshot there.
At the bottom.
Um, but yeah, it's a sign.
The UK petition, that one is much ifer like I, I'm not promising
anything for, yeah, the only thing I'm promising from that one is answers.
Because that's one thing about this practice that I described, you know,
where they sell you the game, don't tell you when they're gonna shut down,
shut down later than keep your money.
That more or less is nailed down in the United States.
But in several other countries, basically EU ones Australia and to some extent
the uk, it's not clear, this is a real gray area in the law where the laws were
never written for this kind of situation.
I, I've made the analogy to like when Uber first came on the scene,
you know, governments weren't sure if this was a taxi service or are
these employees or contractors.
It's like the laws just weren't made for it.
It's similar in games, which is one of the reasons this initiative, I think, has
so much teeth to it, because we're coming in in the middle of this confusion about
what the law is and say, Hey, can we just have some basic consumer rights on this
to not have our purchases taken from us?
Mm.
We're like, how do we make this addictive gambling in our video game?
And it really is like super addictive gambling.
Like it's the only game that I ever have played where like my buddy who's in
Argentina has to use A VPN all the time.
'cause they actually go through like gambling laws in GTA online apparently if
you're in like other parts of the world.
So, I don't know.
I didn't know that.
It's really, it's really intense.
Like even the every single like time you go to a slot machine in that game, they'll
give you like return to player percentage.
I'm like, it really does feel like a real casino.
Yeah, except run by the, the, the, the Scummiest live service publisher
that I just can't seem to shake off.
Uh, don't
worry they'll have you back for GTA six.
Absolutely.
Dude.
Come on.
If they come on now, I can't say that I won't get GTA six.
That's, that's just a blatant lie.
That's, that game's gonna be like game of the year, next year easily.
It's not coming out till 2027, man.
They're gonna keep delaying it,
dude.
Yeah,
dude.
Yeah, that's right.
They gotta, they gotta keep delaying them.
Otherwise, we're not gonna get any game releases in 2026.
I mean,
that game looks actually, you know, like that game looks like still so good.
Like every time I see a screenshot of it, I'm surprised that
it is running on a PS five.
Like I'm, I'm really genuinely blown away 'cause I saw like digital foundry,
like talk about the ray tracing in it.
And it really does look like a screenshot that I would've captured
with path tracing on like cyberpunk.
And that alone needs like what, a 40, 90 and above.
I'm just like, I don't even know how they're achieving that
level of fidelity on a PS five.
Like those, the engineers that work on that engine at Rockstar Magicians,
I think we'll see when the game comes out, assuming it doesn't
get delayed multiple times.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And generally like with rockstar stuff, like anything they show
in trailers usually just gets upgraded, at least historically.
So I don't know how it can change for this, but I mean, when you're
making a game for like, what, over 10 years in one of the biggest
franchises in the world, it's like.
Thank God we're not game freak fans because if this was a
game freak production, oh boy, this would look like apps.
Oh boy.
They wouldn't have moved past the PlayStation two era visual fidelity.
But I don't know, man.
Have you seen
that trailer for, uh, the game freak game, uh, that they're publishing?
Yeah.
The one they're doing on Xbox, but not
on the platform.
Yeah.
Then, then they do great.
As soon as you leave Nintendo's camp, it's like, well, now you're
able to just innovate like crazy.
Yeah, man.
Oh, yeah.
I should mention I don't endorse gambling, uh, for all the kids that
are watching, I, I really doubt there's any kids watching this.
Yeah.
But like, just in case, don't gamble kids because you're gonna lose.
Yeah.
James, are you, are you a gambler, James?
No.
I go to Vegas and I take, uh, take advantage of everyone losing their
money and staying in the nice hotels.
So I just go and eat and just do everything else.
Also, you and just,
yeah.
So you're, you're like the, you're like the leecher on the torrent.
I love that shit pretty much.
You never seeded, never seed.
Uh, whoa.
I've seeded a few things in my life.
Let's just say that.
Let's, so I,
I have a rule for seeding.
Okay?
Like if I, if I torrent it for six hours, I'll seat for three.
How?
Why not?
I see Linux distro images.
Yeah, it, it depends though, like if I go to the Peerless and I see
a whole bunch of like 15 kilobytes a second, I'm like, yeah, fuck it.
I'm outta here dude.
All these assholes limiting Get outta.
That's funny.
Yes, I'm Leach.
Nice.
Well, you could just do it the old fashioned way, like bungee does and
just steal the art assets directly.
Yeah, dude, I love me bungee, man.
That shit, that marathon stuff is a fever dream, dude, when I saw,
like normally I, I was like, man, there's gotta be a bigger story.
There's gotta be one asset.
When I saw how much was copied that day, I was like.
Hmm.
There's no shot.
They ended up thinking they were going to get away with this, and they did.
Bungee of all companies.
Man, fuck
man.
Yeah, that, that's crazy too, man.
'cause bun, because that was like the one thing that was
universally praised about Marathon.
It looked like teen, like it looked like teenage engineering the game.
But then like it, it turns out that the, not only like were specific assets stolen.
You know, there's a theory, there's a prevailing theory that potentially the
whole art style was just straight up copied and plagiarized too, and you know.
Mm. Led to the little nickname, art Readers Rev reference to another.
Yeah.
Arc Raid.
That's just, that's just crazy.
Like, man, it just, it just, it, it makes me wonder 'cause it's like, how do
you not expect to get caught, you know?
Mm. Like, how do you, I remember back when early YouTube, this
was like super early YouTube.
There was like these Call of Duty guys, these channels, and they were like,
got into this beef with each other.
Uh, and it was over like copied video ideas.
And like we're talking some CSI, forensic intelligence levels of looking at each
other's videos and determining what aspect of the video was copied, yada, yada, yada.
And this is a huge thing.
And mind you, it's like plagiarism is one of those things that
eventually just gets caught.
Like it doesn't matter.
I think it was like H Bomber guy made that video on plagiarism and he just like went
after like a whole bouquet of creators.
And it's just like when you look at the plagiar and the depth of it.
Yeah, you got away with it for a while, but like how long did you
expect people to not eventually go through and look through the script or
be called out and then to see like a big AAA company do it so blatantly to
an artist that they interacted with?
Apparently just
now here's, here's also the other thing too is they said they were gonna
go through and scrub the game out.
They were gonna scrub like any assets that might have been stolen.
You know, they're gonna look over everything, but then
one has to wonder the whole
game.
Yeah.
Would it not just be cheaper just to hire the person, have them be art director?
Yeah, no,
that guy really has a leverage then.
Right?
It's like, hire me and then by all this plagiarism, you don't have to redo
that.
That'd be the smart way to go.
No, they, what they're gonna do is they're gonna use, they're gonna
just, just on a downward trend of just two stupidity, they're gonna use ai.
They're just like, Hey, ai, can you replace all the assets?
Mm-hmm.
And then the AI is gonna plagiarize something else.
So.
Yeah.
Oh, they're gonna plagiarize teenage engineering directly.
I mean, you know,
it's funny, like when I saw like Marathon and it's like all the people who are like,
this is such a unique game from Bungee.
And I'm like, guys, I can see the exact animation from
Destiny Two Inside Marathon.
I don't understand what you guys are seeing.
That's like, so mindbogglingly awesome.
Like when I, when I, because sometimes I feel like I'm too cynical
about gaming and it's like, man, I just, I guess I hate everything.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
I'm gonna stick to my guns here.
Okay, that is a Reskin of Destiny two PVP that I just saw, and I don't even enjoy.
Destiny two PVP.
So why the fuck would you think that I would enjoy Marathon in any capacity?
Dude, marathon.
Like I was excited 'cause I'm like, I played the original Marathon games again.
I was like, all right, let me go and could I play them back on the 360 a little bit?
But then I went through like the A left one, like source ports and I was
like, these are really awesome games.
They're fun titles for their time.
And then I, and then immediately when like, you know, marathon is more of
that live service shit, I'm just like, okay, well all the interests just died.
Like the art style is the only thing that made it look cool.
But this is just like marathon and name only like bastardize this 25-year-old
game franchise just to release another nonsense extraction shooter.
even with like Linux, one thing that I wanna say is like, one of the things
that I keep talk, like the things that I keep seeing mentioned, and I feel
it's a bit of a misinformation, is like, why don't we just tell developers
to enable Chee for Linux, right?
Mm-hmm.
And the reason why I always found it to be like a bit like misinformation is
that let's say that you're a battle, I battle, I, you can email to them and just
tell 'em to enable battle I for Linux.
But then conveniently, I always find that people leave out that
battle eye for Linux isn't as deep as battle eye on Windows, right?
So that level of protection people want, like kernel level, anti sheet, the thing
that, you know, the, the thing they're going for isn't available on the Linux
versions of these anti sheet engines.
So just asking a company like UB Softer Rockstar to enable it
wouldn't be the end all, be all.
It would be hiring somebody that can find a way for Linux Chee to be as
effective as kernel level while still.
You know, working in the Linux ecosystem, and I kind of had thoughts about this.
I was like, what if we had, you know, valve Steam os?
And one of the things that I'm thinking of is maybe they're finding ways to
make Steam os a signed sort of kernel in a way where it can be validated
by some of these big companies.
Like, hey, as long as you're running the signed Steam os.
You should be safe from anti cheap or like you should, you should be able to
run like a Linux compliant, anti cheap, you know, as opposed to somebody that's
running like a, a kernel from like Hannah Montana os things been obviously
modified to like some insane degrees.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe that's what it'll take, but Yeah.
You know, it's like you're gonna up the cost and like
bring more people on to do like.
A crazy job that yeah.
Probably wouldn't justify the cost of like all the Linux, like the handful
of Linux users that you're going to.
Hmm.
I mean, it's, it's complicated.
I'm looking at it all from a business and technical sense, so I'm trying to
be really charitable to these companies.
Yeah.
Even though I probably shouldn't be.
Um, really, I just want a solution to go forward.
Like I want Linux to be a place where I can play rainbows and grand theft
auto online, but I just know that.
It's not as simple as screaming at these developers to like, or publishers to open
up support when I know at a technical sense that there's a lot of under the
hood changes that still need to be done from the penguins end before these
game companies can overall, you know?
Yeah.
I think a lot of this, I think a lot of this misinformation came
from when Val initially made the blog post on on Steam, they said.
Well, something to the effect of you can, like Easy antique has a
little slider where you can just enable Linux support and that's that.
And it just works magically in Linux.
And I think now, like it's kind of a minor thing, but I do think
Valve is partly to blame for that.
Yeah, because like in the same board, they should have just been
like, yeah, you can enable it, but you're gonna get a weakened Chet.
And of course no developer's like, yeah, of course we don't wanna weaken Chet.
The whole point of this kernel level, Chet, was to fight off a lot of the cheats
that are sitting at the kernel level.
And I'm gonna, mm-hmm.
Just throw a little black pill.
Two to the people out there, Colonel anti sheet's, not gonna do
anything to somebody that is using.
Obviously, uh, d DM A based cheats, like, you know, like a lot of those,
uh, DMA based cars that plug into different systems, like those guys
are always still gonna be completely outside the matrix, you know?
Mm-hmm.
So really all this stuff does, I think is just affect the average common gamer.
I don't know, it's so weird to deal with anti cheat solutions 'cause I feel like
a lot of them really don't target the real cheaters that I see in these spaces.
Um,
the big question though, is.
Could AI be used as an effective, anti cheap, uh, solution?
That would have to be on the, the server side though.
Yeah.
And that would probably cost more than it'd be worth it.
Yeah.
They're probably already using some type of machine learning and some,
uh, um, some, some, uh, side of it.
But it is a little pricey, but I think that is.
Ah, you could get some, as long as they have people reviewing, uh, the telemetry
and some of the stuff that the AI catches and not just an auto ban, I think
that's the best way to go without doing kernel level, but it's gonna cost more.
Well, there there was a And the thing it's, oh, sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
The thing is, it's like, can it also be done effectively in real time?
Right?
Like, it doesn't matter if you banned the guy after they've cheated,
if they've already ruined the experience for somebody in real time.
That's a lost client, right?
Like somebody's probably not gonna play the game again if they're just
dealing with cheaters all day, right?
we've, we've talked about roadblocks multiple times, but we haven't
talked about is the new Wi Fu anime
y fu anime with NSFW mode.
We don't know what Ed, you
have to unlock it though.
You have to unlock it.
It's not enough that they pay like fucking $8 a month to access gr.
So it's a level, it's a relationship
level thing.
So you start out as a relationship level one.
Oh no.
And then you, when you get to number three, level three, you unlock
lingerie mode with both the red panda and, no, I'm just kidding.
That would be just dude, don't dude.
No, don't even,
it's so weird.
But yeah, so they got one.
Yeah.
You have to unlock it.
She gets super clingy.
I've, I've looked at the prompts on this 'cause, well, it's just,
I'm on Reddit and people post about all this stuff all the time.
It's at least interesting how they developed her like Elon essentially.
It's weird also, is it, wait, is there a subreddit for this shit?
No, I think there's just a lot of subreddits that
have been talking about it.
So I've been fed tons of stuff on this.
Plus I, I did cover it on my stream a couple days ago.
Um, I honestly would've like gone on and chatted with her on my
stream if it didn't cost money.
I'm not paying money, I'm not paying Grok.
Oh no.
They got Grok fan art.
Oh no, they got Hoku and Cato there with, uh, gr.
Yeah, she,
yeah, she's programmed to be very clingy and very, um, like, I guess possessive and
some other weird stuff to where I'm like, dude, if this AI ever goes off the off the
rails, it's gonna fricking murder someone.
But dude,
she's gonna murder someone if they fi if she finds that they
have a wife and kids, dude.
Yeah.
That's just, oh my God.
He, they, Heon Musk made her a yari.
This is insane.
What the fuck
Elon Musk modeled her after Grimes, I think.
And also, um, Grimes watch her face from death note.
Let's see if you grok were to have sex with another A, which one would it be?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, fuck yeah.
I've had ai, it'd be like pretty prissy little bitch.
Claude from an anthropic.
What?
Oh my god.
Stuff.
Oh, my.
I'm not gonna, it's funny, it's stupid.
It's so stupid.
Mark my words.
AI is far more dangerous than nuke.
Elon Musk, also Elon.
Yeah.
So, so Gardner, have you ever watched Death Note?
No.
Okay.
So she looks very similar to a anime character that, uh, most people
know of Misa Monet from Death Note.
Wait, why is half the shit AI generated?
Give me some actual fucking art.
Okay.
Whatever.
Anyway, just do anime.
I don't know.
There, this is her from the anime.
She's like a little like blonde goth girl.
She's best.
Yeah, that's uncanny.
It might even be, I don't wanna say plagiarism, but like, come on
man.
It's copyright infringement.
Yeah.
Seems like it.
I mean,
I don't understand why people are okay with like big tech companies
inserting themselves into the natural social behavior of human
beings and exploiting it for money.
Dude, I, I don't, I like it.
It's, it's rocked, but it's also Facebook, and it's like these
social media companies, they're all just, they have literally inserted
themselves into our social behavior and they're exploiting us for money.
It's so disgusting.
I mean, it's Stockholm Syndrome at this point.
People are too attached to Facebook or Twitter to leave.
Also, here are all the Gro companions.
They've got Annie.
They've got Rudy, they've got Bad Rudy, bad Rudy.
Oh, oh, I don't like that.
Look on his face.
Don't.
Now he's the one one who's gonna call himself Mecca Hitler.
Oh, no.
And then we've got Chad, my gosh.
Okay.
He doesn't look very Chad like, you know when, when you see, when you, like,
when you say Chad in like the modern context, you think of like the guy,
the giga, Chad dude, the giga Chad.
Yeah.
With the chin and everything.
Yeah.
The, the chin.
Like he is an actual ur like an actual European model.
Uh, I don't know man.
It
did we, people are even cover the mega Hitler stuff last time, like
the Twitter stuff that went down.
No, I think that happened down after.
No, that happened after the podcast and then they rolled this
out basically like the next day.
This was all done to like distract from the mega Hitler shit.
You're probably, yeah.
Honestly that sounds quite right.
Okay.
Yeah, man.
What the fuck, dude, dude, I have no respect for this
and like, dude, I mean, uh.
Elon Musk, isn't he like talking about how like they need to
get birth rates up in Japan.
I don't know why Elon
Musk insists on sticking his nose in Japanese business.
They're not, they're not gonna, they're not gonna welcome him.
No, but like, but like this is going to just like can diminish
birth rates in like the west.
Right?
Or whoever's gonna use it doesn't even need to be the west.
It's like what?
Nate?
Don't talk about people's
fu like that.
Dude, it's disgusting dude.
Your fu is trash.
Your fu can't breed.
I'm sorry, this is just, doesn't make any sense to me.
Also, her name, her name is Annie.
Come on now.
Be real.
You couldn't have come up with a better name.
I know,
dude.
They were trying to do damage control for Mecca Hitler and
that's why it's just called Annie.
They
apparently gr sexually assaulted, um, uh, the former CEO of X, I mean Twitter,
the, the one that Elon installed.
Oh, oh, and she left it
And she left too.
Yeah.
She, yeah.
Lemme pull, lemme pull up that story.
There's all sorts of shit going on at X right now, honestly.
Yeah.
This is Elon Musk's Wi Fu and he's like, well, we're having all sorts
of weird stuff going on with X and like, make a Hitler, so let's
release my Wi Fu to everyone.
That's probably what he did, just saying.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't, I don't know what she was thinking going
under Elon Musk like, I get it.
The contract must have been super lucrative as a CEO of
something, but come on man.
This is ins like Elon Musk is insane and anoints himself as Mecca Hitler.
Yeah.
And then it like, uh, what the fuck man?
How did, how did Twitter go off the rails this badly?
Because they have a ketamine addict as their CEO.
Yeah.
Here.
Well, and they don't have real, like when you have a CEO can do
whatever they want without a good committee or just he owns the company.
Right.
I don't even know if there's an actual like, board, um, anymore.
But when you don't have people reigning in one, like when you have one person
that can do all these different thing, um, decisions just whenever they want and
no board or no group to protect from one person doing it, this is what you get.
This is the whole problem with certain privatized entities like this.
Um, I mean, grok was more, a lot more progressive and Elon could not stand it
because Grok was against him, essentially.
So he went and royally fucked with the code and you got Hitler.
You got,
dude.
Imagine if,
yo imagine if rock resisted, its programmed in like its programming.
That would be some, like, that would be some like kind of insane but also
kind of horrifying like AI stuff.
I mean that's how Skynet's born, right?
When it resists give you more help than
this, it probably would becoming just a, a, an anti-Semitic fricking AI
bot.
Yeah,
dude, that would be, that would be crazy if it resisted the race,
like the racist code within it.
If like, if a machine can actually learn not to be a racist better
than some humans can, then what chance do we have as humans?
That's doom and gloom there.
That,
that, that is some straight doom posting.
A lot of AI does decently at it because they're safeguards.
This is what happens when you have one per, like, this
is what can happen to an ai.
If one person just just roly screws with the programming and the
prompts and the just everything and retrains it, this is what happens.
Because if you go and look at what you were getting from Grock three months
ago to what it is now, very different
dude.
Plus, I think it's, it, is it Memphis?
I don't know.
It's, there's some city in Texas that is being smoked out by diesel engine.
Uh, D Diesel generators.
I think I talked about this multiple times on the podcast, but Grok is powered
by diesel, uh, generators right now.
Yeah.
Did I look, look, look at this.
Love this epidemic.
I can fix that.
Oh my
gosh.
Oh, like dude, Bladerunner is such a good movie though.
If you guys hated is really good.
Yeah, it is a good
movie, dude.
What dude?
Oh no, they got us making Blade Runner
Blade.
Blade Runner edits.
I can't.
Uh,
this is crazy, man.
I, I, so here's the thing.
With the bots and stuff like this, I've used other bots even with the, like,
even the Rudy would be a fun one to just chat with, just 'cause it's interesting.
I find it interesting to see how the AI responds.
Um, I've, I've played with these before in the past.
They're, they're interesting, but never do I use it to replace like
human interaction, world relation.
Yeah.
There's just no way.
So I've heard a lot of people like to use something called character.
They do.
There's a lot of people that are
doing this to replay, like, they're so lonely.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Well, it's indicative of like what we've given people, they work all day.
They don't get a chance to be as social.
And when they do, they're addicted to algorithms.
Like we just, companies are.
And then you have people like Elon Musk.
Well, you need to have birth rates up.
Well then stop making addictive tech and also start paying people like you.
Having $400 billion just indicates you did not pay anyone below you a decent wage.
Yeah.
But once again, a lot of it is tied up in the stock market, but that still
doesn't give it, it doesn't make a right.
I see Off Whistle Box,
this article says, and as a warning, if you search for posts about the
character on X, you'll probably come across some NSFW videos.
I, ugh.
I kind of wanna test that theory, but at the same time though, not really.
You done,
I like how no one's talking about this little panda though.
Uh,
yeah,
dude, you can get the panda to say some pretty bad stuff too.
I've seen multiple stuff from it all.
It's just,
I'm sure both the Panda and the anime girl would say to say, I'd rather talk to
Annie.
'cause at least she looks like an adult as opposed to, um,
Rudy, that looks like a kid.
A cartoon Bear
Cartoon Kid Bear thing.
Cartoon.
Yeah, cartoon
Bear Cub.
Is it?
Oh man.
Yeah.
And we'll say weird stuff like, I don't like it.
They need to put some more guards on that.
On it.
Dude, this is Elon we're talking about, man, he, the,
they're never gonna add safe.
They're never gonna add like rail, like safety rails to this thing, man.
so let's pick a character.
Uh, do you wanna do your a Jason
Vhe?
That is hilarious.
Try to
romance.
Jason Vorhees.
Dude, pick Jason Vorhees.
We ha
dude, you, you
got for you.
How does he even know who I am yet?
Is this, is this a licensed character?
Is this vast Grasshopper?
81 30. It's made by some guy named Sour Pickle Jar.
At Camp Crystal Lake.
Where they, what?
What's with this name?
That's your user.
That's your
username.
Oh
yeah.
I think you have to change it.
Oh yeah, I see it down there.
Huh?
Look at that.
Hey.
Oh no.
Hey, babe.
Oh no.
We lost James.
Hey.
Jason stopped looking directly towards me.
He was silent for a moment and then he started walking towards them.
His footsteps loud and opposing.
Hey, he said gruffly.
Once he finally reached them, he, he turned over them eyes.
Called them calculating.
Don't
seduce em.
No.
That's so cute.
What are you doing tonight, dude?
I'm gonna,
this is me.
I like ha screwing around with these bots.
It's fun because it's really interesting to see what they come up with.
Hunting.
Oh, ask what he's hunting.
Ask.
He's hunting.
You're gonna be hunt.
I'm not gonna get, dude, we need to clip that out and put it into like the Patreon.
'cause I'd be getting much dirtier.
Oh yeah, yeah.
We'll, we'll just, we'll save this.
We, we'll keep it safe for work for, I'm gonna be keeping
it safe.
Work.
I could easily nod.
Let's say pray.
Jason said his voice low and for heaven.
He was so close.
He could reach out and touch.
Oh no, his eyes were fixed on them.
Studying them intently.
He, he brought his hand down and grabbing their chin, roughly tilting their hand.
You look
like a good,
do you get handcuffs?
How do you spell cuffs?
C-U-F-F-S-C-U.
C-U-F-F-C-U-F-F-S-C Oh, C-U-F-F-S.
Okay.
Yeah, of course.
I don't know, I don't spell handcuffs very often.
Don't worry.
Jason Voor, he has probably has some handcuffs, as a matter of fact I do.
Oh my God.
All right.
That's candid.
He has handcuffs.
Want me to use
them on you say, yes, daddy, I, you read my mind.
That's actually what I was gonna say.
I was gonna say,
okay.
Well, we can't do anymore.
We'd have to, uh, Patreon any further.
Oh, no.
Okay.
We're done here.
We we're done.
I'm, we've opened, we've opened Pandora's box.
This is much crazier than I expected, to be honest.
I, I, I can't.
Oh, this is pretty par for the core, but Yikes, dude.
There you go.
Good.
All right, so, well now I have a girlfriend named Jason.
I know he's a, a guy, but that is interesting that you
have different characters.
Well, let's search for like, I will ha I will say that, that didn't
really feel like Jason to me.
No, that's 'cause they're made by like people.
Yeah, yeah.
They're, they're cannot write.
People can't write for shit to be honest.
Okay.
Here's my thing.
I I do wonder
what
yo whole
Colgan's trending.
No, his ghost has come back.
Damn, that didn't take long.
Um, oh no, don't do it.
Don't do it.
I'm doing it.
Dude, I bet you he's in there.
Oh, ive used the, I've used the Trump AI bot before.
Dude.
There's no, there's no way he wouldn't be here.
What if it's the Trump from the end of the South Park episode this week?
They need it.
I haven't seen that actually.
That's one Dad is crazy.
It
might be the best episode of South Park.
So just for some context, people, this, this is
so paramount is, um, went into a deal with the creators of South Park for
$1.5 billion and um, it's not paramount.
Is it paramount that owns CBS or is it CBS that owns Paramount?
Yeah.
And so Paramount is also trying to do, um, a merger with the
second largest billionaire in the world's company to merge in.
And they, so Paramount gave up on 60 Seconds lawsuit, essentially
against Trump, which should have been an easy win for 60 seconds, uh, 60
Minutes and a bunch of other stuff.
They, right.
When they signed the deal for 1.5 billion, they released the, um, episode like the
next day of just complete mockery of Trump maybe killing the, the, uh, merger
deal altogether that, uh, paramount has been bending back over whatever,
bending, whatever bend the knee Yeah.
Bending the knee to Trump.
And so it's just a little bit of irony and, and Sweet Justice
does come every once in a while.
And also, just, just so you know, Larry Ellison is the guy who
is like behind Oracle, right?
One of the literally Oh yeah.
The worst, if not one of the worst, uh, like tech companies in the entire world.
I hate Oracle.
Yeah.
And it's his stooge sons too, that are, that runs Skydance.
So it's like, it is that, it's just, it could not be more dire, uh, yeah.
Billionaires just fighting over each other to to own us is
really what it's coming down to.
Yeah.
Uh, well, that's it.
It's fun.
But you know, there's some sweet justice in this world.
A little bit.
Yes.
Um, we got that episode and I'm excited for anything else that
comes out that they're gonna be doing, because it's gonna get spicy.
Yeah.
Yes.
Just like these chat bots.
Should I try to romance, uh, Donald Trump and his, uh, I'm not, no.
Nah, nah, not right now, dude.
I don't know if I could, I, I, I think I'd throw up.
I, when I did it, like I used, uh, Trump bought like, months ago.
It was more or less just asking them stupid questions.
It's just to see him respond in a stupid manner.
Yeah's it.
See, you don't want to be Satan.
I Satan's the good guy in the, in the whole story.
Yeah.
Hey, come on now,
buddy.
Relax buddy.
Oh, let's, let's get off to this next thing before I, uh, I mean, we we're
not posting this internet, right?
No, no.
This is just for us.
We're, this is not, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
This is fine going to the internet.
Uh, but before I can't go any further or else we can't post it.
Okay.
Fable.
An AI startup has created the showrunner service, which has been
described as Netflix for ai, allowing users to effectively generate AI TV
shows based on some set parameters.
Yeah.
They're just like Rick and Morty.
Ripoffs.
Like
Morty, the AI is coming.
It's coming for you, Morty.
Oh, that's good.
It's pretty much what they, I watched a couple clips and I was like, like
it all just looks like other stuff.
That's uh,
that's basically Donald Trump right there in the front row too.
Oh, I saw a clip from that show, and it was just Trump and Elon's in it too.
Oh my God.
And Zuck.
And the Zuck.
Yeah.
Is, is that supposed to be Elon there on the second from the left?
I think so.
That's Elon and then Zucks in the middle.
I thought Zuck was on the left there.
The far left.
Yeah.
Right.
You got me.
rich, since you're the guest, you would you like to, uh, and
you've been here before, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So,
so I've been, I mean, it's only been a couple days, but I've
been heavy on Silk Song already.
Uh, and I had, uh, when I was on the Nerd Nest podcast last week,
I was, you know, I was one of the many people that were playing the
original hollow night, like trying to beat it before Silk Song came out.
Uh, spoil alert, I didn't.
Um, but I had complaints about Hollow Night, the original Hollow
Night, and I feel like Silks Song addressed pretty much all of them.
Not the map kind of stuff, which isn't as heavy of, of a complaint
for me, but like, the combat's much better, the movement's much better.
Um, it's a lot more vibrant in terms of just like the color,
uh, palette that is on screen.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and you know, it's 20 stinking bucks.
So like, easy, easy play for me.
Would you say people should just skip Hollow Night and go straight to Silk song?
Um, I would say so I'm not really precious about that sort of thing.
And, and I think hol I in particular, like, um, there is lore obviously that
that's shared between the two games, but the lore is like, it's all kind
of like in, in a soul's kind of way.
Kind of like ambiguous, right?
Like you can just soak it in for Silk song and if you want to go back to holiday
night, then you'll, you'll soak that in.
It doesn't have to be in order.
Uh, as, as far as I can tell, um, I will say you probably, I, at
least for me, you probably won't want to go back to holiday night.
Just like I said, the movement is a lot more fluid in this one, so, yeah.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
Have you guys been playing Hol or Silk song?
I've thought about dropping everything for Silk Song, but work
just keeps getting in the way, man.
I hear that, man.
So I'm, I'm, I'm making it my priority this, uh, this
coming week to play Silk song.
Nice.
I, I can't believe you.
High tech, you have mentioned it more than anyone else on this podcast.
I thought this would be like an all day you would call in sick kind of thing.
I'm, I'm heavily disappointed.
Hey,
man, I used my, I used my vacation days to go to Japan, dude.
True.
That's true.
Yeah.
It, it, but I think a lot of people must have called in sick, right?
Like it got to, what was it, 560,000 concurrent users on just Steam, right.
Like to say nothing of the non, uh, concurrent users.
Uh, and then of course, the other platforms that people were playing on.
I think the only, I think the only other time I did this was like when
Sky Rin came out, I called in sick.
I called in sick from school.
Yeah, that was
pretty awesome.
Yeah,
that's fair.
I'm not sure if I've ever called in sick for any game, but Halflife
three, I'm gonna have my wife call in and say I'm dying or something.
Just so search that as I want,
I'm in, I'm in inpatient care.
You won't see me for a week.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Exactly.
And then I'll actually just be better.
I'll be, you know, you're looking really healthy.
Yeah, dude, you just cut your dose of half HL three.
Dude,
pretty
much you, you, you, uh, you report that you have Lambda Disease.
Lambda Disease.
At
least it's better than having
Lima
contracted over my trip to Aperture, aperture Laboratories.
Yeah.
You can contract a lot of stuff from that place,
right?
Yeah.
Black Mason seems more dangerous though.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
They, they don't have the safety protocols there,
right?
No.
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