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Welcome to Off the Console, your favorite
show that's all about tech news and gaming

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and everything nerdy. My name is Gardner
and I am joined today by my friends High

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Tech, Low Life and James. How's it going,

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my friends?

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Doing all right, how about you?

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Doing good.

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Doing great.

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Doing great. Uh, dude, we have a huge
episode today.

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This is very exciting. We got some cool
stuff to talk about.

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Itch is deleting AI Slop.

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they're dropping the hammer on it.

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we have indie games reporting Steam is
getting backed up uh with approving their

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games for release. We're talking about
physical PC games making a comeback thanks

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to GOG and a lot more. Uh guys.

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We like to start the show off by talking
about the things we have done this week.

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Uh James, let's start with you.

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What have you been up to this week?

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I've been doing stuff like uh playing
Allen Wake 2.

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I'm almost done with it. I've been playing
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Loved control. Uh trying to get through
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I also um took a book out of using AI to
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and I I haven't I don't know if I fully
reverse engineered it yet,

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but I have all my drivers for my um all my
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going through um a Swift app for my Mac so

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I don't have to so far it's running great.

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Because like Elgato and all the like some
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it's just their s drivers suck.

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Like Razor. I don't want to put a Razor um
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on my computer ever. Again, it eats up so
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And so uh right now I have something
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because they're all Wi Fi based,

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but they always get disconnected and the
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That's one of the things I'm working on.

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Uh hopefully I can get to a place where I
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But right now it's just on my Mac and it
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But who knows, maybe the future.

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Mm. Neat. Yeah. I mean, I know that like I
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grade lighting. Um, and I'll tell you,

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they they have proprietary apps you have
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to control them. And it's so annoying.

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So I would like really like to reverse
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with uh, you know, home assistant or
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That would be my ideal. Um

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That would cool. Uh high tech,

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what have you been up to this week?

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I've been playing Elden Ring and I think
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I could beat the I b I think I've beaten
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but I'm in like one of the scariest parts
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imagine if From Software made a horror
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That would be awesome.

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Cause 'cause like Dark Souls and stuff,

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they have horror elements and stuff,

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but like they're not necessarily horror
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Mm-hmm.

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That'd be sick though. But yeah,

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a aside

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from that though, I've ordered I've
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7 for the Switch 1 for hacking purposes.

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And so I will soon have

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a hacked Switch 2. I missed out on the
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you know, yeah getting was it?

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I think Smile Basic it was. We talked
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Yeah, but I won't miss my I won't miss it.

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I won't miss it this time.

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Hell yeah. That's awesome. Yep.

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Um this week I uh filmed a video for a
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So I haven't done a lot. But I did I did
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on uppercase um for Android right now.

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I just have to make a few infrastructure
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as a c like the the back end stuff on the
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the capacitor app. But it's coming along
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And I'm going to try to build in um uh
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offline so you don't have to be online to
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which is gonna be really cool.

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Yeah, 'cause I don't I don't like I don't
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I I I hate that. So um yeah.

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James, what do we what do we have going on
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it's really it's really cool. It's coming
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I I am really proud of that. You did a
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W and we also have a bonus episode,

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Every week we have, you know, at least a
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This week we had a fifty minute like
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Uh it's over on Patreon right now.

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Um as well as what was another story we
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Lots of stuff. Really interesting.

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Um but our first ep uh our first story for
the main st for the main show today

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is itch.io is mass deleting AI slop and
it's allowing users to filter

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out any AI assisted games. HiTech,

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what's going on here?

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So Itch.io has been inundated with a num
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This is partly due to the fact that I
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whatever you want, uh,

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without needing to go through an approval
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like for example, Steam. Uh and Itch.io
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Itch.io isn't just games. You can also buy
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music, like tabletop game like
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stuff like that. They sell all sorts of
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an enormous pack of uh fonts through
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I didn't buy a lot of stuff. I've like got
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I think those ones were like Black Lives
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lot of stuff for like good social causes.

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as a consequence, I have a large HDO
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truth be told, I've ver very, very rarely
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to like use in your games. There's one
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too, actually. I just sent a link over
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uses it and that's a good that's a good
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It's kind of like a nice it's got like a
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Of course, if you want to use this font
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They made Slave Zero X, which is fucking s
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Yeah. Suffice it to say, Itch is a is a
really cool uh platform.

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And uh I my brother has released a couple
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um Doodlings on Itch, including a Google
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so you can check that out. Um but what's
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a couple terabytes of AI slop.

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That's pretty neat. Uh

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and they also unveiled a

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AI filter for games too.

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Well, a no AI filter more specifically,

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so you have to check it to see all of the
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And it's an interesting concept here.

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One that, you know, Valve could do,

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but I'm wondering if it won't have
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like you know, being able to opt into
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It does create an incentive to lie about
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you know, AI in your workflow.

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I'm yeah, I'm curious how you filter that
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because sometimes like like I've used AI
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um creating code and and maintaining
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and um but like does that I I guess that
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So anything that touches AI

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I don't know. I I see I see why it could
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but I think in the future it's just gonna
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the use of AI.

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Mm-hmm.

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And if AI get and like, especially with
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'cause a lot of developers do use AI for
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let's be perfectly clear. I'm not totally
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it. It's just that

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You could ease like most people don't know
how to r like you look at AI slop art,

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like us as artists,

251
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Yeah.

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we can see

253
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Mm-hmm.

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it and we can tell that it's like AI slop.

255
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Mm.

256
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And but like AI code, most people don't
know how to read code.

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And so how do we how would they know the
difference between like a game that's

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AI coded and like a game that isn't,

259
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really? Like

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Right.

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And

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ha here's my thing, guys, too,

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and we I think we said a lot or I said it
last week.

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It still takes some skill to make a game
with with uh AI and if it it's AI slot

265
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because they didn't have any skill.

266
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Yes.

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You look at it and

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you're like w y you just asked it to make
you a game and it's horrible.

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Yeah. Make me a first person shooter,

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So Yeah, it it's it

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no mistakes.

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no matter what, like

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AI is not that creative. Like you have to
have the creative element attached to it.

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It does enable I on the flip side,

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it does help enable some people that are
more creative to be able to build their

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games. Games are really difficult to make,

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by the way, as like in the indie film
field.

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But also, you know, maybe people should
start caring about what they release

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and not just release uh

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to try to make money or to slop it out.

281
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I don't I don't get I don't get why people
make like true AI slop.

282
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Yeah. Well because to people who are not
technically literate,

283
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it looks impressive. I

284
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I uh

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I mean I've made a couple of games with AI
just for

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Mm.

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out of out of testing it. It's half of
them are just garbage 'cause I went with

288
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different routes

289
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Yeah.

290
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to go about it. I'm just like this is this
one looks h horrendous or I laugh at it.

291
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Yeah.

292
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Some

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of it it's also kind of fun because it's
just like okay,

294
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Yeah.

295
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cool.

296
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And people would post like release this.

297
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Okay.

298
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Mm.

299
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Yeah. man. Yeah,

300
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I it's it's difficult because it's like it
if there's anything that

301
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AI is like a good tool for,

302
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it is assisting with code, right?

303
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It's like

304
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Mm-hmm.

305
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but even then, like, it still massively f
fucks your code up if you don't know what

306
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you're doing with it, right? So

307
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It's getting

308
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it depends on what model. The newer models
are really good,

309
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but you wanna you

310
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Mm.

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need to know what you're doing to run
tests,

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to do to run through the code,

313
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make sure there's nothing

314
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Hm.

315
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being left out. You need to know about
security.

316
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There's so many levels of

317
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Yeah.

318
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it still takes a lot of work to make a
decent application or game these days.

319
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Yeah. What like it's yeah, it's it's just
like what level

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of AI requires uh this disclosure,

321
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do we know? Like,

322
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I wouldn't be shocked if it's just any.

323
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is it Yeah.

324
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And that's

325
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the hard part because dev tools are have
had AI assisted stuff for a long time.

326
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Yeah.

327
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So

328
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Well I mean yeah, it's it's interesting.

329
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'Cause it's like at what point does like
as you said,

330
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James, it's like AI is a tool,

331
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right? And it's like there are developers
out there who don't even use IntelliSense,

332
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you know, like code completion utilities,

333
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right? They they they

334
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Mm-hmm.

335
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don't use any of that because they don't
want it.

336
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But uh in a lot of ways, uh something like
IntelliSense code completion uh

337
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is so much of a time saver and it lets you
focus more on the like

338
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the the overall structure and less on the
minutia,

339
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right? Where you can

340
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Mm-hmm.

341
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and that's the thing, is like for me,

342
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what I have found is that like writing uh
writing code in a way that

343
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my IDE can understand and help assist in
code completion is has saved me

344
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so much time.

345
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Yeah.

346
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Um

347
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That's the that's the kind of the major uh
development for me and it's like I haven't

348
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found a way to really integrate AI tools,

349
00:15:18,309 --> 00:15:23,080
but that's because I won't use something
like the the the major yeah.

350
00:15:21,599 --> 00:15:23,128
Leg clot and stuff like that, yeah.

351
00:15:23,481 --> 00:15:26,441
'Cause everyone says, Claude, but it's
like I've tried Quen,

352
00:15:26,982 --> 00:15:29,322
you know, like a seven billion parameter
or whatever,

353
00:15:29,783 --> 00:15:32,904
and it's it just screws up my code so I
don't I don't use it,

354
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but uh

355
00:15:33,772 --> 00:15:34,573
Yeah, it's

356
00:15:34,573 --> 00:15:40,698
it's I I struggle with this on and off and
I've just tried to just deal with like

357
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I like using Claude. I like t saving
myself time,

358
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I like exploring things. Um I do pay for

359
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Mm.

360
00:15:47,733 --> 00:15:51,806
it, but I I I like saving time.

361
00:15:52,343 --> 00:15:53,815
Yeah. But there was also

362
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Spending more time with my kids.

363
00:15:54,194 --> 00:15:56,978
that lawsuit that just hit about Claude.

364
00:15:57,118 --> 00:15:58,670
Did you guys you guys hear about that?

365
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There's like a class action lawsuit
against anthropic by people who like

366
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paying customers who are saying that like
they are they are changing the model.

367
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And not na not renaming it, but changing
the model and it has interfered with their

368
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ability to like use the product.

369
00:16:17,964 --> 00:16:22,559
So it's like this is that's the that's the
big reason that I don't like or trust

370
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these the frontier companies is because
it's all just it's initification

371
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on hyperspeed and I just don't have any
respect for it.

372
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So I can't I can't use it.

373
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I think anthropic is all about trying to
get things d so I've been using

374
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it for a year or two. Um on and off.

375
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And I use it a lot at work. Work has us
using it.

376
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And what I would say happens more than
more often than not is that they're

377
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m making changes really quickly.

378
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Mm.

379
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So they're

380
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gonna be chang making they make changes
maybe too quickly,

381
00:16:59,391 --> 00:17:01,532
they're using AI maybe too quickly with
it.

382
00:17:01,872 --> 00:17:02,292
They're

383
00:17:02,116 --> 00:17:02,722
Mm-hmm.

384
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doing the thing that other people are
doing is you gotta you can't release

385
00:17:07,316 --> 00:17:09,838
things so quick. And they have a really
good model,

386
00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:15,413
5.5. Opus 5.5 is the like if we stopped at
AI development right here,

387
00:17:15,413 --> 00:17:19,027
which I'd be fine with, perfect tool for
develop for coding.

388
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Hm.

389
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Perfect tool. And the problem is I think
um I even think that's starting to degrade

390
00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:26,594
for some people, but um I don't know.

391
00:17:26,694 --> 00:17:28,956
That's hearsay. Who knows if that those
are just

392
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Chat GPT people, you know. I just don't I

393
00:17:31,724 --> 00:17:32,154
Mm.

394
00:17:32,154 --> 00:17:37,649
never know, but I definitely like Claude
has had issues where it goes up and down

395
00:17:37,649 --> 00:17:41,962
with quality. And that's why you gotta you
gotta you gotta keep a check on things.

396
00:17:41,962 --> 00:17:48,078
He sometimes I think people are too auto
auto m mode on things and it saves

397
00:17:47,372 --> 00:17:48,078
Mm.

398
00:17:48,078 --> 00:17:52,452
time, but it's not uh cheat code for just
instant everything.

399
00:17:53,858 --> 00:17:56,048
Hmm. Interesting.

400
00:17:55,351 --> 00:17:56,351
So

401
00:17:56,582 --> 00:18:01,645
it's at the end of the day, um I want it
to be more ethical,

402
00:18:01,645 --> 00:18:02,645
but

403
00:18:02,883 --> 00:18:03,263
Mm-hmm.

404
00:18:03,186 --> 00:18:03,495
my

405
00:18:03,495 --> 00:18:09,279
field is if I don't adapt AI then I might
not have a job in few years

406
00:18:09,279 --> 00:18:13,872
is also another part of this. Every

407
00:18:12,002 --> 00:18:14,144
Yeah. Well the f that's literally

408
00:18:14,144 --> 00:18:18,418
like the most FOMO that you know and th
that's how these companies sustain

409
00:18:18,418 --> 00:18:20,830
themselves, right? It's like they they're
like,

410
00:18:20,830 --> 00:18:22,582
Yeah, if you don't jump on the train right
now,

411
00:18:22,582 --> 00:18:24,792
you're gonna get left behind and

412
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:25,364
That's

413
00:18:25,364 --> 00:18:27,104
not even what I'm I'm talking about.

414
00:18:27,104 --> 00:18:32,969
I'm talking about my job. I'm talking
about job applications.

415
00:18:33,309 --> 00:18:38,452
All of them. All of them have can you use
dev AI dev tools and how well?

416
00:18:38,612 --> 00:18:41,293
Now there's gonna be some companies out
there but they're that won't.

417
00:18:41,494 --> 00:18:44,095
They're just gonna be so much they're just
gonna be so competitive.

418
00:18:44,095 --> 00:18:44,475
So

419
00:18:44,452 --> 00:18:45,156
Mm-hmm.

420
00:18:45,156 --> 00:18:47,227
I'll go a certain way, like a certain
amount,

421
00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:51,559
but it's like, yeah, I mean if they s I
don't know,

422
00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:52,599
I've quit

423
00:18:53,002 --> 00:18:56,236
using Claude at times because they didn't
agree with the direction they were going.

424
00:18:56,536 --> 00:18:57,282
Mm-hmm.

425
00:18:57,282 --> 00:18:58,282
But

426
00:18:59,554 --> 00:19:01,371
Yeah, it's it's tough.

427
00:19:01,782 --> 00:19:05,768
It's it's a it's a it's a weird direction
'cause it's like I just don't want

428
00:19:05,768 --> 00:19:07,661
to get all the hate for using AI tools,

429
00:19:07,661 --> 00:19:11,326
but I'm also I'm not the one that's
building the AI tools.

430
00:19:12,643 --> 00:19:13,000
Right.

431
00:19:12,728 --> 00:19:13,058
My

432
00:19:13,058 --> 00:19:15,312
industry uses it. So

433
00:19:16,344 --> 00:19:21,452
Yeah. man. It is uh it's very

434
00:19:21,048 --> 00:19:21,492
Yeah.

435
00:19:21,492 --> 00:19:23,495
it's a very shitty industry now.

436
00:19:24,182 --> 00:19:27,705
I would say right now well I well the
thing is I have more free time to spend

437
00:19:27,705 --> 00:19:29,747
with my kids though. I get my work done.

438
00:19:29,747 --> 00:19:34,981
Uh my work work done and the my and the
the employers are happy.

439
00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:36,723
So I get to spend more free time.

440
00:19:36,803 --> 00:19:39,685
I get to get off early and spend and go
get my kids from school.

441
00:19:40,386 --> 00:19:42,718
I don't feel as stressed. So I will say,

442
00:19:42,718 --> 00:19:47,211
this might be anecdotal. My life's been
easier because of it.

443
00:19:47,572 --> 00:19:51,065
But that doesn't mean other people's lives
are getting screwed over because they're

444
00:19:51,065 --> 00:19:52,416
trying to lay people off and everything.

445
00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:53,080
Mm.

446
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:53,335
So it really

447
00:19:53,335 --> 00:19:56,708
sucks. I if I could. This is my ideal
world.

448
00:19:57,505 --> 00:19:59,831
If the data center stopped eating up all
the RAM,

449
00:20:00,352 --> 00:20:07,037
I would build my own s uh AI machine and

450
00:20:06,532 --> 00:20:07,037
Mm-hmm.

451
00:20:07,037 --> 00:20:09,179
run the bigger because the bigger ones,

452
00:20:09,179 --> 00:20:11,281
like if I get if you can get enough RAM,

453
00:20:12,642 --> 00:20:17,646
the bigger parameter um LMs are really
good.

454
00:20:17,787 --> 00:20:18,244
They're

455
00:20:18,244 --> 00:20:18,547
Yeah.

456
00:20:18,547 --> 00:20:19,547
almost

457
00:20:19,628 --> 00:20:23,730
Like in the next year there'll be like
Opus four five point five level and that's

458
00:20:23,770 --> 00:20:25,891
if that's the case, that's how I'd want to
do it and I'd do it.

459
00:20:25,891 --> 00:20:28,012
It it's a l it's a lot more ethical,

460
00:20:28,012 --> 00:20:30,583
even though who knows how they're trained
f sometimes,

461
00:20:30,583 --> 00:20:31,474
but at least

462
00:20:30,997 --> 00:20:31,474
Mm-hmm.

463
00:20:31,474 --> 00:20:34,035
it's more ethical than how it is right
now.

464
00:20:34,035 --> 00:20:40,518
I don't like being subjected to um uh a
membership to be able to write

465
00:20:40,518 --> 00:20:44,360
the code or like quicker. Um ah

466
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,323
Yeah.

467
00:20:45,292 --> 00:20:45,483
Like

468
00:20:45,483 --> 00:20:47,793
if if Athropic did something screwed up
enough,

469
00:20:47,793 --> 00:20:48,988
I'd yeah, I'd be done with it,

470
00:20:48,988 --> 00:20:49,988
but it'd suck.

471
00:20:50,936 --> 00:20:55,322
Yeah, I mean that the the the problem with
the big LLMs is that they like those

472
00:20:55,322 --> 00:20:58,076
companies are incentivized to keep making

473
00:20:57,485 --> 00:20:58,076
Yeah.

474
00:20:58,076 --> 00:21:01,671
their lower tier models shittier and like
force you to upgrade.

475
00:21:03,052 --> 00:21:05,304
Like you pay more monthly monthly plan.

476
00:21:05,304 --> 00:21:07,455
It's it's always going to continue
increasing,

477
00:21:07,535 --> 00:21:13,139
especially because all of the uh like
right now what you pay for with Anthropic

478
00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:18,664
or with Chat GPT, what you're paying for
is like a quarter of the price of what

479
00:21:18,664 --> 00:21:21,245
it actually should be according to the
market rate,

480
00:21:21,245 --> 00:21:24,548
right? Like the uh it's being subsidized.

481
00:21:22,905 --> 00:21:24,627
It's that's manipulated by

482
00:21:24,627 --> 00:21:27,191
them. That's being mina manipulated by
them in my opinion.

483
00:21:27,191 --> 00:21:29,084
I think they're lying because they want to
be like,

484
00:21:29,084 --> 00:21:30,666
Well, see, we're giving you such a good
deal.

485
00:21:30,666 --> 00:21:31,657
Yeah.

486
00:21:31,202 --> 00:21:33,873
Well, but also like it's I think it's
inarguable

487
00:21:33,873 --> 00:21:37,915
that they are being subsidized by uh uh
you know,

488
00:21:37,915 --> 00:21:41,316
Microsoft and and private equity and
whatever.

489
00:21:41,516 --> 00:21:45,538
Like it's it's like a quarter of what it
should be.

490
00:21:45,978 --> 00:21:49,179
And so like they are losing money every
month,

491
00:21:49,399 --> 00:21:50,680
um, running the service.

492
00:21:49,742 --> 00:21:50,693
I think if I saw the

493
00:21:50,693 --> 00:21:53,147
real numbers I I I maybe I could be
convinced.

494
00:21:53,147 --> 00:21:54,479
I don't trust these companies.

495
00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:57,715
I don't trust any of them when they say
they make or lose money.

496
00:21:57,715 --> 00:22:00,420
I never, never do. That just sorry,

497
00:21:58,649 --> 00:22:01,874
Okay, fair enough. Well, I mean Anthropic
well s

498
00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:01,891
that's just me. That's just me.

499
00:22:02,335 --> 00:22:06,091
but Anthropic uh is preparing for an IPO
and

500
00:22:06,091 --> 00:22:07,383
they had to release that

501
00:22:06,254 --> 00:22:07,352
And they sh yep.

502
00:22:07,383 --> 00:22:12,731
and it was like the they are like m not
making a profit at all.

503
00:22:12,856 --> 00:22:13,486
But was that

504
00:22:13,486 --> 00:22:16,758
what like but where is their money going
towards?

505
00:22:16,758 --> 00:22:19,579
Like, um, is it research?

506
00:22:18,626 --> 00:22:20,129
The compute cost.

507
00:22:20,239 --> 00:22:22,250
well, I know that's a big part of it,

508
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:26,922
but they have a lot of other things that
cost a lot of money.

509
00:22:26,922 --> 00:22:28,662
Like OpenAI

510
00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:28,460
Mm-hmm.

511
00:22:29,022 --> 00:22:33,604
holds up a lot of uh compute and they're
holding on to a lot of compute.

512
00:22:34,145 --> 00:22:36,626
Who knows if we're they're actually using
all of that or if they're using

513
00:22:36,626 --> 00:22:39,287
it as a tactic to make sure that no other
company can compete with them?

514
00:22:39,767 --> 00:22:42,188
Like there's a l I yeah.

515
00:22:39,780 --> 00:22:42,312
Well my my understanding is

516
00:22:42,312 --> 00:22:47,557
that like in terms of like for every uh
for every prompt that

517
00:22:47,557 --> 00:22:54,002
you uh you like submit it costs them more
money than what you pay in your

518
00:22:54,002 --> 00:22:55,904
subscription. Like on the whole,

519
00:22:55,736 --> 00:22:57,644
I'm Yeah.

520
00:22:55,904 --> 00:22:57,535
like not like just one

521
00:22:57,916 --> 00:23:00,218
one prompt costs them more money than what
you pay.

522
00:23:00,798 --> 00:23:03,540
Um so it's that's my understanding.

523
00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:04,661
I I could be wrong about that,

524
00:23:04,661 --> 00:23:07,404
but I don't know. But you know the thing
is

525
00:23:06,966 --> 00:23:07,456
I just don't

526
00:23:07,456 --> 00:23:10,278
trust That's the that's the biggest thing
i with all that,

527
00:23:09,548 --> 00:23:10,893
Yeah, that's fair.

528
00:23:10,278 --> 00:23:11,068
is I don't trust

529
00:23:11,068 --> 00:23:14,160
it. I don't think they're I don't and how
like how much they're spending

530
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,701
and everything. I don't definitely don't
think it's viable,

531
00:23:15,701 --> 00:23:19,142
but we could get to a viable state if they
want to and if they want to talk about it.

532
00:23:19,142 --> 00:23:20,113
I don't you

533
00:23:20,113 --> 00:23:21,174
know I

534
00:23:20,812 --> 00:23:21,174
Mm-hmm.

535
00:23:21,174 --> 00:23:22,174
don't I don't know.

536
00:23:22,332 --> 00:23:24,033
Yeah. I no I think that's fair.

537
00:23:24,253 --> 00:23:27,904
But also like, you know, developers have
been able to you know,

538
00:23:27,904 --> 00:23:29,114
we're talking about like coding,

539
00:23:29,152 --> 00:23:34,816
you know, efficiently coding or or
becoming more whatever,

540
00:23:35,156 --> 00:23:36,687
if not efficient, what's the word?

541
00:23:36,687 --> 00:23:40,518
You you produce more, you're you're
creating more code wh when you're using

542
00:23:40,518 --> 00:23:42,398
LLMs. How much do you guys want to bet

543
00:23:41,763 --> 00:23:42,398
Mm-hmm.

544
00:23:42,398 --> 00:23:46,900
that that is what's causing the uh indie
game scene on Steam to get backed up?

545
00:23:49,413 --> 00:23:52,557
Uh it's definitely like it's a bunch of AI
games being created.

546
00:23:52,878 --> 00:23:58,996
And I I unfortunately I do think it's a
lower quality amount of games coming in.

547
00:23:58,996 --> 00:24:01,279
I think if people were better with their
tools,

548
00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:04,764
even if it was the AI tools, I don't think
this would be like people would release

549
00:24:04,764 --> 00:24:05,497
less.

550
00:24:05,497 --> 00:24:06,497
Hmm.

551
00:24:06,616 --> 00:24:07,545
Often.

552
00:24:07,545 --> 00:24:10,034
Yeah, high tech, you wanna tell us what's
going on with this story here?

553
00:24:11,372 --> 00:24:14,415
there's also been a similar story with
Steam itself.

554
00:24:14,415 --> 00:24:20,309
A lot of people have been sl one shotting
vibe coded slop to

555
00:24:19,817 --> 00:24:20,309
Mm.

556
00:24:20,309 --> 00:24:22,081
then put on Steam immediately.

557
00:24:22,341 --> 00:24:27,466
And like that's that's been that's been

558
00:24:22,483 --> 00:24:27,192
I d did one shotting so crazy.

559
00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:29,868
interfering with their ability to like,

560
00:24:29,868 --> 00:24:32,390
you know, actually approve games.

561
00:24:32,694 --> 00:24:33,344
'Cause it's supposed to

562
00:24:32,797 --> 00:24:33,344
Mm.

563
00:24:33,344 --> 00:24:35,726
like a small turnaround time, like five or
six days,

564
00:24:35,726 --> 00:24:36,926
but some games

565
00:24:36,339 --> 00:24:36,926
Mm-hmm.

566
00:24:36,926 --> 00:24:41,359
have actually missed their missed their
supposed release dates because of this.

567
00:24:41,642 --> 00:24:42,035
Yeah.

568
00:24:42,035 --> 00:24:42,671
Interesting.

569
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:42,760
And it's kind of

570
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,321
ridiculous that, you know, Valve doesn't
do something about this.

571
00:24:45,321 --> 00:24:49,174
I mean, shit, it's like we know that
people are releasing more and more games

572
00:24:49,174 --> 00:24:50,825
on Steam, like every year.

573
00:24:50,173 --> 00:24:51,173
Mm.

574
00:24:51,465 --> 00:24:54,247
And I think at some point though that I
think at some point though,

575
00:24:55,007 --> 00:24:57,318
we need to start ca we need to start
hiring more people,

576
00:24:57,318 --> 00:24:59,790
Valve. Like more full time like reviewers.

577
00:24:58,695 --> 00:24:59,695
Yeah, I'm yeah.

578
00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:00,196
Yeah.

579
00:25:00,149 --> 00:25:00,830
I'm gonna probably

580
00:25:00,830 --> 00:25:04,539
put it on the side of Valve makes billions
of dollars.

581
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,185
They can they can do it.

582
00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:07,339
Hm. Yeah.

583
00:25:09,021 --> 00:25:10,782
Yeah, people will hate me when I say this,

584
00:25:10,782 --> 00:25:13,392
but Valve was actually a pioneer in
machine learning.

585
00:25:13,392 --> 00:25:18,734
Um, the reason that Valve doesn't use
kernel level anti-cheat is because they

586
00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:20,824
use machine learning algorithms

587
00:25:19,913 --> 00:25:20,913
Yeah.

588
00:25:21,084 --> 00:25:23,065
on their server to detect cheaters.

589
00:25:23,685 --> 00:25:26,406
Um, which I think is a more effective way
of doing it,

590
00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:28,387
um, as long as they keep up with it.

591
00:25:28,607 --> 00:25:32,998
I think that there's an opportunity here
to implement some kind of machine learning

592
00:25:32,998 --> 00:25:36,589
uh algorithm for detecting slop.

593
00:25:34,879 --> 00:25:35,893
Think they already do.

594
00:25:36,609 --> 00:25:38,023
I think they already do.

595
00:25:37,182 --> 00:25:38,132
Yeah, I mean they probably

596
00:25:38,132 --> 00:25:43,806
do, but like uh maybe even just like ex
like examining the executables and shit,

597
00:25:43,806 --> 00:25:46,908
like being like, this just looks vibe
coded,

598
00:25:47,168 --> 00:25:49,910
mm demote it oblivion.

599
00:25:49,394 --> 00:25:50,075
I guess,

600
00:25:50,075 --> 00:25:51,767
but like vibe coded like I don't know.

601
00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:54,279
That's that's such a hard thing 'cause eve
ev

602
00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:54,299
It's a slippery slope.

603
00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:57,463
even a vibe coded game could be an amazing
game.

604
00:25:57,463 --> 00:26:00,216
Some of the w probably some of the the
games we like the most were

605
00:26:00,216 --> 00:26:02,929
pro are probably really crappy code.

606
00:26:03,251 --> 00:26:08,229
Well, v okay, when I say vibe coded I mean
like a developer who has no experience

607
00:26:08,590 --> 00:26:12,467
uh j and like one shotting it or or like
going

608
00:26:11,989 --> 00:26:12,529
I think you'd be

609
00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:15,450
shocked at how much better that code could
be than some of the games that have

610
00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:18,993
released in the past decade. I've just

611
00:26:17,167 --> 00:26:18,871
Yeah, yeah. Okay.

612
00:26:18,993 --> 00:26:24,416
said I've seen I've seen some pretty bad
uh ah bugs in games and stuff where you're

613
00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,157
like, this I know what the problem is
here.

614
00:26:26,157 --> 00:26:27,898
And if I can detect it while playing it,

615
00:26:27,918 --> 00:26:28,918
that's

616
00:26:28,937 --> 00:26:29,779
Mm-hmm.

617
00:26:29,779 --> 00:26:32,911
that's not good. I'm not I don't that's
the that's the whole problem.

618
00:26:32,911 --> 00:26:36,503
And one shotting, like I've tried one
shotting a game before just to see.

619
00:26:36,929 --> 00:26:39,645
Um, dude, it's like nearly impossible.

620
00:26:41,014 --> 00:26:41,800
I take it doesn't work

621
00:26:41,139 --> 00:26:41,800
Unless it's

622
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,490
out.

623
00:26:42,490 --> 00:26:45,903
it does not work out. I've tried it
multiple different ways 'cause I'm just

624
00:26:45,903 --> 00:26:47,514
like, how are people doing this?

625
00:26:47,775 --> 00:26:51,317
I wouldn't like I want something that's
gonna reflect of what something I want

626
00:26:51,317 --> 00:26:53,149
to build. I wouldn't want to just one
shot,

627
00:26:53,149 --> 00:26:53,679
but I was like

628
00:26:53,661 --> 00:26:54,661
Mm.

629
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,474
okay, try building a cozy space sim just
so that I like and I'll play it just

630
00:26:59,474 --> 00:27:00,945
to chill out and just to see. It was

631
00:27:00,436 --> 00:27:00,945
Mm-hmm.

632
00:27:00,945 --> 00:27:04,418
is more for me than anything. No,

633
00:27:04,418 --> 00:27:07,911
I have to babysit it, dude. I think it
might be more work to build some of these

634
00:27:07,911 --> 00:27:09,712
things with AI than it is to not.

635
00:27:10,053 --> 00:27:10,703
Yeah.

636
00:27:10,703 --> 00:27:13,674
uh

637
00:27:12,184 --> 00:27:13,184
That's fair.

638
00:27:13,854 --> 00:27:19,345
So but that being said, people probably f
have the right I'm sure they're using

639
00:27:19,345 --> 00:27:22,016
models and stuff or using some type of
service because there are services

640
00:27:22,016 --> 00:27:24,977
you can pay for too that will probably one
shot it better,

641
00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:28,318
but like I don't know. I've seen people
brag on Twitter,

642
00:27:28,318 --> 00:27:31,019
like I one shotted this, and you see it
and you're like,

643
00:27:31,019 --> 00:27:32,989
Okay, if you can do that, that's crazy.

644
00:27:32,989 --> 00:27:35,940
And then c I don't know. Heavy

645
00:27:35,189 --> 00:27:35,940
Mm-hmm.

646
00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:37,860
doubt anyone's one shotting anything.

647
00:27:38,408 --> 00:27:38,812
Yeah.

648
00:27:38,621 --> 00:27:38,911
But

649
00:27:38,911 --> 00:27:39,911
they're definitely

650
00:27:40,891 --> 00:27:43,710
Not a creative director or anything
either.

651
00:27:44,414 --> 00:27:45,234
Yeah.

652
00:27:45,234 --> 00:27:51,617
I I I I I'm concerned that Valve is just
like inundated to this level.

653
00:27:52,178 --> 00:27:57,760
Like that they're they're falling so far
behind with getting games out in a timely

654
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,838
manner. yeah. I don't know.

655
00:28:00,838 --> 00:28:02,803
I I'd love to hear Valve's take on this,

656
00:28:02,803 --> 00:28:07,225
but they are notoriously quiet about stuff
most of the time.

657
00:28:07,999 --> 00:28:10,110
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I mean,

658
00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:10,655
Yeah

659
00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:10,819
at the end of the day,

660
00:28:10,819 --> 00:28:14,352
I don't want them to block. I don't want
them to block based on AI,

661
00:28:14,512 --> 00:28:17,653
per se, or deprioritize per se.

662
00:28:17,653 --> 00:28:21,455
I mean, you could maybe depri like maybe
you could have a priority line for some

663
00:28:21,455 --> 00:28:22,665
things or or whatnot. Like

664
00:28:22,165 --> 00:28:22,665
Mm-hmm.

665
00:28:22,665 --> 00:28:24,656
there's w multiple ways to do priority
lines.

666
00:28:25,196 --> 00:28:30,188
But at the end of the day, they're making
money from all this stuff.

667
00:28:30,188 --> 00:28:30,682
Just

668
00:28:30,682 --> 00:28:31,682
yeah.

669
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,120
put more invest more into your company,

670
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,581
guys. Your billion dollar

671
00:28:34,835 --> 00:28:35,835
Well

672
00:28:35,841 --> 00:28:36,841
moneymaker.

673
00:28:36,946 --> 00:28:39,506
yeah, I mean we talked about it a couple
of weeks ago.

674
00:28:39,966 --> 00:28:45,008
Like, but I think, you know, you have to i
so in order to get my game on Steam,

675
00:28:45,028 --> 00:28:46,018
I had to pay a hundred

676
00:28:46,018 --> 00:28:47,158
dollars, right? I put

677
00:28:46,589 --> 00:28:47,158
Mm-hmm.

678
00:28:47,158 --> 00:28:51,770
a hundred dollars down and then I made
that money back uh just through sales,

679
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:55,941
right? So it wasn't like I I was I was
kinda like putting it up as collateral

680
00:28:55,941 --> 00:29:02,392
to get the game on Steam rather than like
paying Steam um to put my game on there.

681
00:29:03,353 --> 00:29:04,353
I think that that

682
00:29:04,883 --> 00:29:06,434
That threshold should increase,

683
00:29:06,555 --> 00:29:09,447
right? Where it's like you have to put
real skin in the game.

684
00:29:09,447 --> 00:29:15,853
Because most games don't make more than uh
2500 bucks for for indie titles,

685
00:29:15,853 --> 00:29:17,605
right? We talked about that a couple weeks
ago.

686
00:29:18,046 --> 00:29:21,799
And with like I don't even want to call it
slop.

687
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:25,032
Like there's a it's there's just like
spam,

688
00:29:25,032 --> 00:29:28,095
like AI generated spam. It's not

689
00:29:26,589 --> 00:29:27,924
Mm, yeah.

690
00:29:28,295 --> 00:29:30,237
yeah, it's like, dude, it's like.

691
00:29:30,932 --> 00:29:35,074
Those people, those games are not going to
make twenty five hundred bucks.

692
00:29:35,074 --> 00:29:42,066
And they're bringing down the entire uh
like uh f ceiling of what can be earned

693
00:29:42,066 --> 00:29:46,947
on Steam because they just are flooding
Steam and making discoverability even

694
00:29:46,947 --> 00:29:49,989
harder. So it's like two thousand dollars,

695
00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:52,600
dude, in order to get it you put that up
as collateral,

696
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,051
uh, and you'll you get it back by selling
the game,

697
00:29:56,092 --> 00:29:59,773
right? Like, dude, something like that has
to be implemented,

698
00:29:59,773 --> 00:30:00,773
I think.

699
00:30:00,807 --> 00:30:03,458
I am curious 'cause like for
discoverability for me,

700
00:30:03,458 --> 00:30:06,680
I have not seen much issues. Like I'll
also I'll be honest.

701
00:30:07,461 --> 00:30:10,282
When I go to my Steam page when I'm
scrolling through things like that,

702
00:30:10,462 --> 00:30:13,004
it still d gives me mo actually does an
okay job.

703
00:30:13,004 --> 00:30:16,736
I know a lot of people don't like the
discoverability or the store very much.

704
00:30:16,736 --> 00:30:17,936
Like they don't do a very good job.

705
00:30:17,936 --> 00:30:20,708
For me, it's doing fine. I have not had
too many issues.

706
00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:25,320
but I also consume media outside of Steam
to see what games are coming out,

707
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,992
like look things up. But like I have not
had issues with

708
00:30:30,025 --> 00:30:33,186
Things that seem like I wouldn't buy them
too much.

709
00:30:33,172 --> 00:30:33,430
Mm.

710
00:30:33,186 --> 00:30:34,107
Uh

711
00:30:33,877 --> 00:30:34,277
Yeah.

712
00:30:34,107 --> 00:30:35,107
now

713
00:30:35,207 --> 00:30:38,299
the the the the what is it, high tech,

714
00:30:38,299 --> 00:30:39,989
the thing we talked about a few weeks ago,

715
00:30:40,089 --> 00:30:44,591
that um Steamfest, that did

716
00:30:44,437 --> 00:30:45,252
Mm.

717
00:30:45,252 --> 00:30:49,543
going through that is already a chore
because you have to find the diamond

718
00:30:49,543 --> 00:30:51,934
the rough, and it's been like that for
years for me personally.

719
00:30:52,335 --> 00:30:53,795
Even though there are some good ones.

720
00:30:55,916 --> 00:30:57,647
This this time around was pretty bad.

721
00:30:58,342 --> 00:31:02,187
It was a it was yeah, I it was a horrible
time,

722
00:31:02,187 --> 00:31:03,970
truth be told. I mean, to be honest.

723
00:31:04,753 --> 00:31:09,865
I think and I I also wonder if we just let
it go in its natural order of and this

724
00:31:09,865 --> 00:31:12,637
is w you know where I you know I can rail
on capitalism,

725
00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:15,838
but if we're gonna if this is gonna be a
capitalistic s um app,

726
00:31:16,318 --> 00:31:19,720
I think it's going to just these these
guys will get tired of it.

727
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,237
They're spending money, they're probably
spending a lot of money on some of these

728
00:31:22,237 --> 00:31:23,682
games that that are not doing well.

729
00:31:23,945 --> 00:31:24,302
Hm.

730
00:31:24,302 --> 00:31:26,853
Eventually they will just die out.

731
00:31:26,853 --> 00:31:29,634
And I think you're we're gonna get
normalized back to you have to release

732
00:31:29,634 --> 00:31:30,885
something that people want.

733
00:31:32,351 --> 00:31:33,351
Mm.

734
00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:39,536
And if and if a vibe coded game or if a if
it's AI slop game does really well,

735
00:31:39,817 --> 00:31:43,021
then there was enough creative direction
in it that was that people want.

736
00:31:44,284 --> 00:31:47,689
That's just my opinion on it. I don't
think we should be gatekeeping too hard.

737
00:31:48,885 --> 00:31:49,675
Yeah, I

738
00:31:49,116 --> 00:31:50,976
Isn't sorry, go ahead.

739
00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:56,630
don't know well I don't know. I th I feel
like it's it's a difficult situation

740
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:59,718
to be in for any developer 'cause like you

741
00:31:59,253 --> 00:31:59,718
Yeah.

742
00:31:59,718 --> 00:32:02,119
have to compete with not just like the big
games,

743
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,925
because let's be honest Let's be honest,

744
00:32:04,925 --> 00:32:06,907
probably the biggest threat isn't AI
games,

745
00:32:06,907 --> 00:32:10,389
but like a big game releasing like within
your release date.

746
00:32:11,273 --> 00:32:12,030
Yeah.

747
00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:12,680
Like imagine

748
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:12,680
Yeah.

749
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,242
if GTA were coming on Steam. Like we'd

750
00:32:14,964 --> 00:32:15,242
Mm.

751
00:32:15,242 --> 00:32:18,144
see like Steam would probably be empty for
like this month.

752
00:32:18,889 --> 00:32:21,372
Dude, when Doodlings launched on Steam,

753
00:32:21,633 --> 00:32:25,708
I specifically chose that day because
there were there were no games releasing

754
00:32:25,708 --> 00:32:28,142
within like a five day window on either
side,

755
00:32:28,222 --> 00:32:29,864
right? And then

756
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:29,924
Mm.

757
00:32:29,924 --> 00:32:33,459
the day it launched, fucking Hades 2
shadow dropped.

758
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:37,641
Oh

759
00:32:35,887 --> 00:32:36,889
I remember this.

760
00:32:37,151 --> 00:32:37,725
Dude.

761
00:32:37,641 --> 00:32:38,163
gosh,

762
00:32:38,163 --> 00:32:41,472
that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Brittle.

763
00:32:40,694 --> 00:32:41,484
Yeah, that made me

764
00:32:41,484 --> 00:32:42,955
upset, man.

765
00:32:44,628 --> 00:32:47,265
Man, that was crazy though.

766
00:32:48,819 --> 00:32:51,281
Yeah. Sorry. That's

767
00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:54,688
Yeah, that would I mean sh shit,

768
00:32:54,688 --> 00:32:57,205
man. I I I don't

769
00:32:56,501 --> 00:32:57,205
Mm.

770
00:32:57,205 --> 00:32:58,205
know.

771
00:32:59,581 --> 00:33:02,042
Yeah. I mean dude, I don't know what the
answer is.

772
00:33:02,042 --> 00:33:06,671
I you know, and I think Valve can kinda I
think Valve might muddle through

773
00:33:06,671 --> 00:33:10,255
and figure out a way to to combat the
spam,

774
00:33:10,856 --> 00:33:14,421
hopefully. But also they stand to make a
bunch of money from it,

775
00:33:14,421 --> 00:33:17,225
right? Like so I don't know how much
they're gonna fix.

776
00:33:16,083 --> 00:33:17,324
Maybe. I don't

777
00:33:17,324 --> 00:33:21,117
know how much money is being spent on a
lot of these games.

778
00:33:21,673 --> 00:33:23,943
Well Valve makes thirty percent.

779
00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:25,682
I'm I s I see what you're s well,

780
00:33:25,049 --> 00:33:25,682
Yeah.

781
00:33:25,682 --> 00:33:28,384
it makes thirty percent, but they also
make money when they submit too,

782
00:33:28,384 --> 00:33:29,545
so a hundred dollars.

783
00:33:29,905 --> 00:33:33,736
Well, they don't yeah. Yeah,

784
00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:34,444
That's like not a hundred dollars is like
nothing,

785
00:33:33,736 --> 00:33:35,668
yeah. Yeah.

786
00:33:34,444 --> 00:33:36,145
let's be honest. It

787
00:33:36,209 --> 00:33:38,150
It yeah, we f a hundred bucks

788
00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:38,368
Yeah, they're still making money.

789
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:40,231
they still but they make thirty percent.

790
00:33:40,231 --> 00:33:43,433
So even if these games are only making
twenty five hundred bucks apiece,

791
00:33:43,653 --> 00:33:46,955
thirty percent of twenty five hundred is
still quite a significant amount.

792
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:47,670
Yeah.

793
00:33:47,456 --> 00:33:48,216
Um

794
00:33:48,216 --> 00:33:49,317
and so

795
00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:52,553
I I think you're gonna see the averages go
down quite a bit.

796
00:33:52,767 --> 00:33:53,099
Yeah.

797
00:33:52,793 --> 00:33:53,144
I don't

798
00:33:53,144 --> 00:33:56,055
I think we're gonna see the averages be
like fifty dollars or something.

799
00:33:55,976 --> 00:33:56,314
Yeah.

800
00:33:56,055 --> 00:33:56,816
I don't know.

801
00:33:56,816 --> 00:34:00,828
I I it's gonna go down a lot, but I think
it's just gonna be show that like

802
00:34:00,828 --> 00:34:06,882
you cannot half ass your way into
releasing something that people don't

803
00:34:05,769 --> 00:34:08,232
Hmm. Right.

804
00:34:06,882 --> 00:34:08,253
want. People are

805
00:34:08,253 --> 00:34:10,414
not like they're not like unless it's
free,

806
00:34:10,414 --> 00:34:11,975
then maybe people will do it.

807
00:34:12,436 --> 00:34:12,998
Mm.

808
00:34:12,998 --> 00:34:14,590
Maybe, maybe, maybe people will be
interested,

809
00:34:14,590 --> 00:34:18,360
but like if you're trying to charge for a
game that has no soul to it,

810
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,357
like you didn't put 'cause I really do
think some people can use AI tools,

811
00:34:23,357 --> 00:34:26,839
AI assets, whatever it is, and breed soul
into it.

812
00:34:26,839 --> 00:34:28,630
But it's gonna be a lot of work.

813
00:34:28,630 --> 00:34:29,661
It's easier,

814
00:34:28,998 --> 00:34:29,841
Uh

815
00:34:29,841 --> 00:34:33,934
in my opinion, it's probably easier to
work with with like a 3D modeler

816
00:34:33,934 --> 00:34:39,568
or someone like that to have the soul f of
the visuals um not be AI.

817
00:34:40,349 --> 00:34:40,809
Mm.

818
00:34:40,617 --> 00:34:40,956
'Cause they're

819
00:34:40,956 --> 00:34:42,536
gonna you don't have to babysit the AI.

820
00:34:42,536 --> 00:34:46,460
You're gonna have to babysit the AI in
every aspect of this to get anything.

821
00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:49,522
So I this is

822
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:50,109
I mean

823
00:34:50,402 --> 00:34:54,244
I I I'm just I've tried building some
games with AI just to see,

824
00:34:54,485 --> 00:34:58,807
and it is not easy. To get something
that's good.

825
00:34:56,283 --> 00:34:59,157
Mm. Building games just isn't easy.

826
00:34:59,127 --> 00:35:01,748
No, it's uh building games is very
difficult.

827
00:34:59,337 --> 00:35:02,301
Build yeah. Yeah.

828
00:35:02,089 --> 00:35:02,829
It's

829
00:35:02,829 --> 00:35:06,121
it's very difficult. It's why I've

830
00:35:05,629 --> 00:35:06,121
Yeah.

831
00:35:06,121 --> 00:35:09,333
not released a game before, because I've
never been happy enough with the games

832
00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:10,333
I make.

833
00:35:10,345 --> 00:35:13,520
Hmm. So apparently Valve had a statement
on this.

834
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,552
I didn't see this.

835
00:35:16,052 --> 00:35:18,605
Yeah, so Valve made an update.

836
00:35:18,605 --> 00:35:20,674
They're adding some new requirements too.

837
00:35:20,674 --> 00:35:24,410
Uh namely run your game through Steam for
five minutes.

838
00:35:25,492 --> 00:35:26,663
And there's there's

839
00:35:26,064 --> 00:35:26,663
Oh yeah.

840
00:35:26,663 --> 00:35:28,775
a lot of crazy revelations here.

841
00:35:28,775 --> 00:35:34,721
Like for example, apparently we review
game review builds that have never been

842
00:35:34,721 --> 00:35:35,721
played through Steam.

843
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:38,611
Like, you

844
00:35:38,174 --> 00:35:38,611
Oh.

845
00:35:38,611 --> 00:35:43,756
would think like you would think a d like
a s prospective developer would launch

846
00:35:43,756 --> 00:35:46,469
the game through Steam at least once to
ensure that it

847
00:35:46,173 --> 00:35:46,469
Uh.

848
00:35:46,469 --> 00:35:48,091
works with their Steam features,

849
00:35:48,091 --> 00:35:49,342
but I I guess not.

850
00:35:51,285 --> 00:35:52,285
Wow.

851
00:35:53,322 --> 00:35:57,706
So you have to press that green play
button and run it for at least five

852
00:35:57,706 --> 00:36:01,729
minutes. You have to it has to be any
playtime from any user,

853
00:36:02,002 --> 00:36:03,771
I would assume the developer account.

854
00:36:04,292 --> 00:36:08,295
And the playtime must be within seven days
or since your last build was uploaded

855
00:36:08,295 --> 00:36:13,070
longer than seven days ago. So they want a
recent-ish tested build.

856
00:36:13,070 --> 00:36:13,800
They don't want like

857
00:36:13,493 --> 00:36:14,493
Mm-hmm.

858
00:36:14,921 --> 00:36:15,921
one you've been sitting

859
00:36:18,207 --> 00:36:18,479
Wow.

860
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:18,550
Let's

861
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:23,895
see. They want you to confirm required
redistributables like Direct X and stuff.

862
00:36:23,895 --> 00:36:27,358
You know, obviously. Obviously,

863
00:36:27,358 --> 00:36:30,971
some games do need those, and it's
important that those get installed.

864
00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:33,724
And this also helps out with the Proton
installation process,

865
00:36:33,724 --> 00:36:36,607
too, by the way. Uh

866
00:36:34,676 --> 00:36:35,676
Mm-hmm.

867
00:36:36,607 --> 00:36:38,969
achievements, steam cloud detection.

868
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:44,494
And they now need five screenshots that
are gameplay screenshots.

869
00:36:45,138 --> 00:36:50,752
So like no AI generated, uh no no AI art
as because we've seen games where they

870
00:36:50,752 --> 00:36:51,532
like their

871
00:36:51,093 --> 00:36:51,532
Mm.

872
00:36:51,532 --> 00:36:53,784
screenshot section is just full of art,

873
00:36:53,784 --> 00:36:56,926
like full of art and not gameplay that's
required.

874
00:36:57,727 --> 00:37:00,618
And of course, there's some other stuff
too.

875
00:37:00,618 --> 00:37:03,731
They say three to five days, but like
realistically it's been like a week.

876
00:37:04,031 --> 00:37:06,613
And some developers actually have not,

877
00:37:06,853 --> 00:37:10,035
uh actually have not heard back from them.

878
00:37:10,355 --> 00:37:12,386
so it we don't know when they'll be
released.

879
00:37:12,386 --> 00:37:14,518
Heck, I'm reviewing a game right now.

880
00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:18,981
that was supposed to have released already
and was actually delayed too.

881
00:37:18,981 --> 00:37:20,794
That's the that's it's kinda funny,

882
00:37:20,794 --> 00:37:25,490
really. I get to play this game that no
one else is able to get because Valve

883
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:26,490
can't get their shit together.

884
00:37:26,749 --> 00:37:27,263
Mm.

885
00:37:27,263 --> 00:37:29,566
For some reason. I don't know.

886
00:37:30,453 --> 00:37:32,586
Well, it looks like they're trying to
least start to,

887
00:37:32,593 --> 00:37:32,991
so

888
00:37:32,862 --> 00:37:33,133
There

889
00:37:33,133 --> 00:37:33,884
they're they they

890
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:34,650
Wow.

891
00:37:35,387 --> 00:37:39,635
I agree, man. They need to do I mean it's
good that they're doing something,

892
00:37:39,635 --> 00:37:41,138
that they've acknowledged this issue,

893
00:37:41,138 --> 00:37:42,140
this growing issue,

894
00:37:41,362 --> 00:37:42,301
Well

895
00:37:42,301 --> 00:37:44,525
but there need there needs to be more,

896
00:37:44,525 --> 00:37:44,946
I feel.

897
00:37:44,778 --> 00:37:44,948
They

898
00:37:44,948 --> 00:37:49,752
need to do something. Like they need to do
something with their services and pay

899
00:37:49,385 --> 00:37:49,752
Yeah.

900
00:37:49,752 --> 00:37:51,394
more. And pa and and actually,

901
00:37:51,394 --> 00:37:55,627
you know, eat some of this on their side
of the cost.

902
00:37:55,728 --> 00:37:59,150
If they're gonna be taking thirty percent
I still don't think Valve's w

903
00:37:59,311 --> 00:38:00,951
uh cut is worth it in any way.

904
00:38:00,951 --> 00:38:04,525
I don't know.

905
00:38:02,090 --> 00:38:03,090
The thirty percent?

906
00:38:03,135 --> 00:38:05,992
Yeah. For indie devs I definitely not.

907
00:38:04,525 --> 00:38:05,525
It's

908
00:38:06,717 --> 00:38:11,061
it it f it screws over Indies and anyone
that makes under a million.

909
00:38:11,869 --> 00:38:15,060
The Epic when it comes to like if you want
to talk about ethics and stuff like that,

910
00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:17,012
Epic eats their lunch at this point.

911
00:38:17,132 --> 00:38:18,893
Like with this type of distributed stuff.

912
00:38:18,893 --> 00:38:20,914
Not saying that Epic is the better
company,

913
00:38:21,595 --> 00:38:23,576
but from a developer standpoint,

914
00:38:23,576 --> 00:38:26,673
um of like percentages,

915
00:38:26,673 --> 00:38:28,638
it it is. But

916
00:38:28,234 --> 00:38:28,939
Mm.

917
00:38:28,939 --> 00:38:30,299
um at the end of the day though,

918
00:38:30,769 --> 00:38:34,922
uh, you know, it's not led by a little
bitch.

919
00:38:35,663 --> 00:38:36,393
Like Vestive

920
00:38:35,997 --> 00:38:36,393
Huh.

921
00:38:36,393 --> 00:38:37,393
isn't.

922
00:38:37,501 --> 00:38:38,899
Fucking Tim Epic.

923
00:38:39,389 --> 00:38:39,769
Mm.

924
00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:40,135
Ugh.

925
00:38:40,135 --> 00:38:42,201
Yeah, he's gotta get his shit under
control man.

926
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:47,617
Dude, you know you know, the biggest
problem with Steam is that you can't

927
00:38:47,617 --> 00:38:49,080
get physical versions.

928
00:38:50,195 --> 00:38:52,779
I agree. Kind of

929
00:38:52,127 --> 00:38:54,599
High tech. High

930
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:55,870
tech. This is this is

931
00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:55,870
Yes.

932
00:38:55,870 --> 00:39:01,544
very exciting. This is uh GOG is talking
about bringing back physical PC games.

933
00:39:01,944 --> 00:39:02,985
Can you tell us about this?

934
00:39:03,475 --> 00:39:09,460
So this was actually before they had that
cool little GOG un GOG livestream.

935
00:39:09,941 --> 00:39:10,271
Yeah.

936
00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:10,981
I

937
00:39:10,981 --> 00:39:13,943
didn't watch that, but they announced a
couple of things.

938
00:39:14,124 --> 00:39:17,226
they didn't announce this because this is
something they are still looking

939
00:39:17,226 --> 00:39:21,369
to see if it's possible. But they did
announce GOG on Linux.

940
00:39:22,259 --> 00:39:26,340
Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

941
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:27,514
It's coming to Linux. I don't know what
else they announced with that other uh

942
00:39:27,815 --> 00:39:31,598
with the live stream though. they are
overhauling GOG Galaxy.

943
00:39:34,374 --> 00:39:39,646
that's I mean I don't know what else I
don't know what else and GOG there there's

944
00:39:39,646 --> 00:39:40,959
a there's a lot going on, let's just say.

945
00:39:40,959 --> 00:39:42,944
It's 18 year anniversary.

946
00:39:43,967 --> 00:39:44,967
Mm.

947
00:39:45,949 --> 00:39:49,301
And there's something called there's also
something called GOG Social.

948
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:56,425
Uh and uh it sounds like it's gonna be
some sort of like social media for your

949
00:39:56,425 --> 00:39:59,076
GOG account. Kind of like what Steam does.

950
00:39:59,076 --> 00:40:00,287
I mean heck,

951
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:00,287
Mm.

952
00:40:00,287 --> 00:40:03,349
GOG has a forum. You know what you know
what store doesn't have a forum?

953
00:40:04,028 --> 00:40:04,630
Epic.

954
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:05,630
Epic.

955
00:40:07,517 --> 00:40:11,981
Yeah. But some pro the problem is if if
Epic had a store a a forum,

956
00:40:12,462 --> 00:40:15,064
then they'd have to charge more for it.

957
00:40:15,985 --> 00:40:19,949
Thirty percent, man. I don't know.

958
00:40:17,770 --> 00:40:20,320
What does GOG charge? What's their share?

959
00:40:19,949 --> 00:40:20,562
I don't know.

960
00:40:20,562 --> 00:40:23,072
That's a good question. No one knows how
much GOG charges.

961
00:40:23,325 --> 00:40:24,325
Yeah.

962
00:40:26,365 --> 00:40:30,408
Um dude, this is but like the idea that
they have here is actually really

963
00:40:30,408 --> 00:40:35,262
interesting. You would be able to buy
pretty much any game on GOG as a physical

964
00:40:35,262 --> 00:40:39,035
release. And it would be like basically it
would be printed on demand.

965
00:40:39,736 --> 00:40:44,589
Um I would love that. That would be
freaking awesome.

966
00:40:44,589 --> 00:40:46,461
Dude.

967
00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:50,343
I so I do believe GOG does take a 30% as
well.

968
00:40:50,343 --> 00:40:52,835
Uh I can't find any concrete numbers.

969
00:40:52,835 --> 00:40:55,677
That seems to be the general consensus
online.

970
00:40:55,817 --> 00:40:56,082
Mm.

971
00:40:56,037 --> 00:40:56,267
If

972
00:40:56,267 --> 00:40:57,808
someone could correct me on this,

973
00:40:57,808 --> 00:41:00,870
or if preferably a GOG employee could
correct me on this,

974
00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:02,141
that'd be much appreciated as well.

975
00:41:02,416 --> 00:41:02,790
Mm-hmm.

976
00:41:02,739 --> 00:41:03,494
Yeah.

977
00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:05,214
Looking into it looks about thirty.

978
00:41:06,131 --> 00:41:11,558
Yeah. I mean thirty is like the standard
amount for for this stuff,

979
00:41:11,558 --> 00:41:12,435
but

980
00:41:12,435 --> 00:41:16,028
Yeah, I mean I mean and GOG is different
though.

981
00:41:16,028 --> 00:41:20,653
It doesn't like i think once you

982
00:41:19,113 --> 00:41:21,012
They do like game preservation too.

983
00:41:21,554 --> 00:41:25,571
Yeah, they do a lot, but at the end of the
day,

984
00:41:25,571 --> 00:41:30,412
I just if your company's viable uh or not
even like it's just barely making it like

985
00:41:30,412 --> 00:41:32,804
GOG, I'm okay, I'm like maybe thirty isn't
enough,

986
00:41:32,804 --> 00:41:38,099
but Steam is so profitable.

987
00:41:39,006 --> 00:41:42,688
They could draw I I get it, but they don't
have stakehold they don't have

988
00:41:43,048 --> 00:41:46,920
shareholders to worry about. So if they
don't make as much next year,

989
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,354
that's just less yachts for uh Gabe to buy
and more

990
00:41:51,754 --> 00:41:52,354
Mm-hmm.

991
00:41:52,354 --> 00:41:55,050
money into indie pockets. Like I I don't
know.

992
00:41:55,050 --> 00:42:01,218
I I and on top of that, they do deals with
big companies it but not indie.

993
00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:04,781
They they put a lot of the weight on
people and individuals.

994
00:42:04,841 --> 00:42:05,841
I don't like that.

995
00:42:05,907 --> 00:42:07,451
I don't like that model in my government.

996
00:42:07,451 --> 00:42:08,664
I don't like that model in Steam.

997
00:42:08,925 --> 00:42:10,278
So that's I'm just trying

998
00:42:09,941 --> 00:42:10,121
No.

999
00:42:09,942 --> 00:42:10,278
Uh

1000
00:42:10,278 --> 00:42:12,653
to be consistent more with Steam on this.

1001
00:42:13,608 --> 00:42:15,059
So I do think

1002
00:42:14,458 --> 00:42:15,458
But yeah.

1003
00:42:15,979 --> 00:42:17,780
so I am curious as to what'll happen,

1004
00:42:17,938 --> 00:42:21,162
uh should Gabe retire, 'cause yeah,

1005
00:42:21,322 --> 00:42:26,325
there's a lot of 'cause I'm wondering if
part of the I mean like I feel like there

1006
00:42:26,325 --> 00:42:30,087
are some people I'm sure there are some
people in GOG that'd be okay with not GOG,

1007
00:42:30,087 --> 00:42:32,118
Valve that'd be okay with taking a lesser
cut,

1008
00:42:32,118 --> 00:42:34,299
especially for develop in devs,

1009
00:42:34,299 --> 00:42:39,372
but like one has to wonder if some of this
is just

1010
00:42:38,634 --> 00:42:39,552
Yeah.

1011
00:42:39,552 --> 00:42:42,294
Gabe Newell himself wanting to maintain
that thirty percent.

1012
00:42:42,939 --> 00:42:46,435
Maybe I don't even know if he wants to
touch that.

1013
00:42:46,435 --> 00:42:47,507
I would be shocked if he's like,

1014
00:42:47,507 --> 00:42:50,162
Yeah, no, we'll just keep that on someone
else dealing with that.

1015
00:42:50,162 --> 00:42:52,025
I don't know.

1016
00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:52,201
I mean, yeah,

1017
00:42:52,201 --> 00:42:55,408
I don't think I I I mean, I wouldn't wanna
change what works for me now,

1018
00:42:55,408 --> 00:42:58,945
obviously, but I think in the future I'm
sure there's gonna be some

1019
00:42:57,895 --> 00:42:59,048
Well, I mean he's a bil he's

1020
00:42:57,907 --> 00:42:58,907
Mm-hmm.

1021
00:42:59,048 --> 00:43:03,260
a he's a billionaire, so like at this
point as money makes money.

1022
00:43:03,561 --> 00:43:05,987
It's not gonna affect him if he they
dropped it twenty percent.

1023
00:43:06,312 --> 00:43:06,454
Is

1024
00:43:06,454 --> 00:43:08,483
he the world's first ethical billionaire?

1025
00:43:08,871 --> 00:43:13,287
No. Owning a yacht means you are
unethical.

1026
00:43:08,945 --> 00:43:12,710
No. Mm. You just you really can't be an
ethical billionaire.

1027
00:43:14,163 --> 00:43:14,911
That is true.

1028
00:43:14,253 --> 00:43:15,054
Okay,

1029
00:43:15,054 --> 00:43:19,920
I wanna own a yacht one day, so Or
timeshare it.

1030
00:43:18,652 --> 00:43:20,451
Well then you're just gonna have to

1031
00:43:20,451 --> 00:43:21,214
be unethical.

1032
00:43:20,622 --> 00:43:21,622
Time sure.

1033
00:43:23,591 --> 00:43:26,547
I timeshare, yaw. If I could have one for
one week out of the year,

1034
00:43:26,547 --> 00:43:27,547
that'd be pretty cool.

1035
00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:30,226
Mm. Yeah, I'd I might I might do that,

1036
00:43:30,226 --> 00:43:31,494
but that'd just be fun.

1037
00:43:30,747 --> 00:43:31,513
Or I'll just become a

1038
00:43:31,513 --> 00:43:32,835
pirate. Is that an ethical way?

1039
00:43:32,835 --> 00:43:33,835
Is just becoming a pirate?

1040
00:43:34,506 --> 00:43:36,432
but that's not a yacht, that's a pirate
ship.

1041
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:37,536
There's a difference, man.

1042
00:43:36,871 --> 00:43:37,682
Nah. I

1043
00:43:37,682 --> 00:43:39,405
know but if it's if it looks the same
though.

1044
00:43:40,294 --> 00:43:42,083
What so what you're saying is w so

1045
00:43:40,583 --> 00:43:41,583
It's a pirate ship.

1046
00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:43,060
okay. Okay.

1047
00:43:46,388 --> 00:43:47,178
There you go.

1048
00:43:47,178 --> 00:43:48,498
Yeah. Uh

1049
00:43:47,879 --> 00:43:48,879
Lordy.

1050
00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:52,660
yeah, I don't know, man. Like the it's a
it's an interesting thing,

1051
00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:57,342
man. I really like the idea of of having
physical media though.

1052
00:43:57,342 --> 00:43:58,502
Like I really like

1053
00:43:57,929 --> 00:43:58,742
Yeah.

1054
00:43:58,742 --> 00:44:01,223
I have a huge collection of PC games,

1055
00:44:01,864 --> 00:44:08,676
even more uh even bigger collection of uh
uh like console games

1056
00:44:08,676 --> 00:44:13,548
out there. But I also have a big uh
collection of music,

1057
00:44:13,668 --> 00:44:15,389
like CDs, right?

1058
00:44:15,931 --> 00:44:18,503
And so and even vinyl records up here,

1059
00:44:18,503 --> 00:44:20,004
right? I guess some vinyl on the wall.

1060
00:44:20,004 --> 00:44:26,459
Um and Nobu Imatsu says that Hollywood
style scores are making game music sound

1061
00:44:26,459 --> 00:44:30,653
too similar. Thoughts? Yeah.

1062
00:44:28,302 --> 00:44:30,163
I agree with him one hundred percent.

1063
00:44:30,243 --> 00:44:31,203
I fucking

1064
00:44:30,579 --> 00:44:31,443
Mm.

1065
00:44:31,443 --> 00:44:36,394
I cannot stand the Hollywood style of
music that's been happening with like

1066
00:44:36,394 --> 00:44:40,375
a lot of triple A games. I first noticed
it with Injustice too when I played that.

1067
00:44:40,375 --> 00:44:40,865
Uh

1068
00:44:40,821 --> 00:44:41,213
Mm-hmm.

1069
00:44:41,213 --> 00:44:41,487
Mm.

1070
00:44:41,326 --> 00:44:41,586
so

1071
00:44:41,586 --> 00:44:46,067
like fighting games are very well known
are very well known like for their

1072
00:44:46,067 --> 00:44:47,377
soundtracks. They like, you know,

1073
00:44:47,377 --> 00:44:48,468
Guiles theme goes with everything,

1074
00:44:48,468 --> 00:44:49,445
right? It's

1075
00:44:49,013 --> 00:44:49,445
Mm-hmm.

1076
00:44:49,445 --> 00:44:51,068
a it's a genre full of bangers,

1077
00:44:51,068 --> 00:44:53,089
like individual themes for a character and
stuff.

1078
00:44:53,289 --> 00:44:54,789
Injustice has none of that.

1079
00:44:55,005 --> 00:44:56,005
Mm.

1080
00:44:56,050 --> 00:44:57,440
And it's the worst thing

1081
00:44:57,876 --> 00:44:58,394
Imaginable.

1082
00:44:58,069 --> 00:45:00,697
uh

1083
00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:04,122
I like Itjustice, but yeah, I don't play
it for the sound or the music.

1084
00:45:01,652 --> 00:45:04,967
No, like I like like I generally like the
games,

1085
00:45:05,457 --> 00:45:06,297
Yeah.

1086
00:45:06,249 --> 00:45:06,579
but

1087
00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:09,764
the music is just god awful. It's
technically sa it's

1088
00:45:09,010 --> 00:45:09,764
It's

1089
00:45:09,764 --> 00:45:11,997
technically sound, don't get me wrong,

1090
00:45:12,398 --> 00:45:18,146
it's technically sound but there's no the
it doesn't invoke anything.

1091
00:45:20,883 --> 00:45:27,247
Yeah, I mean I I do think a lot of games
are getting too similar with their

1092
00:45:27,247 --> 00:45:34,242
the like the ones that I'll point out I
think have tremendously unique soundtracks

1093
00:45:34,242 --> 00:45:38,085
because they went that route. Um you've
got Expedition thirty three,

1094
00:45:39,346 --> 00:45:45,890
heavy French influences, they they've got
people that were um almost off the streets

1095
00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:50,513
to do that that performed the scores and
and they did such a good job.

1096
00:45:50,910 --> 00:45:55,601
Expedition thirty three is is a good
example of using local talents and using

1097
00:45:55,601 --> 00:45:57,092
talents in areas and

1098
00:45:56,509 --> 00:45:57,092
Mm-hmm.

1099
00:45:57,092 --> 00:46:00,592
and um and whatnot, but also control's
another one.

1100
00:46:00,672 --> 00:46:05,244
Control or Remedy does a really good job
with their music too,

1101
00:46:05,244 --> 00:46:11,215
because they get it it produced by uh
whether it be local um b like they have

1102
00:46:11,295 --> 00:46:16,076
one band that they've used since I think
Max Payne th

1103
00:46:15,390 --> 00:46:16,256
Mm-hmm.

1104
00:46:16,256 --> 00:46:18,997
um to produce their unique scores and
bangers.

1105
00:46:18,997 --> 00:46:19,507
Like I

1106
00:46:19,507 --> 00:46:22,123
Really love the music in those two games a
lot.

1107
00:46:22,512 --> 00:46:23,721
Mm. Yeah.

1108
00:46:23,146 --> 00:46:24,388
And it makes the experience.

1109
00:46:24,388 --> 00:46:27,987
If they didn't have those, the experience
would be like quartered.

1110
00:46:28,733 --> 00:46:29,733
Mm-hmm.

1111
00:46:31,485 --> 00:46:31,845
Yeah.

1112
00:46:31,827 --> 00:46:32,726
So

1113
00:46:32,726 --> 00:46:39,528
When when I first read this I thought like
he was saying like um like having

1114
00:46:39,528 --> 00:46:44,010
like orchestral like arrangements and
stuff and making games sound too similar.

1115
00:46:44,650 --> 00:46:50,733
But like, you know, there's the when you
think back of like classic video game

1116
00:46:50,733 --> 00:46:56,445
themes, I feel like it all is uh it's bred
from the limitations of the hardware.

1117
00:46:56,445 --> 00:47:00,597
Like that's what really sets apart the um
the

1118
00:47:01,949 --> 00:47:04,951
video game music, right? Like you think
like you mentioned Giles theme,

1119
00:47:04,951 --> 00:47:05,792
right? Like that's

1120
00:47:05,792 --> 00:47:06,353
Right.

1121
00:47:06,353 --> 00:47:09,775
I instantly it came to mind. I can hear it
in my head still.

1122
00:47:10,095 --> 00:47:14,408
And it's like, you know, Super Mario World
sounds different from Super Mario Bros

1123
00:47:14,408 --> 00:47:16,180
because of the hardware limitations.

1124
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,473
Um, you know, the only game that sounds
the only games that sound any good

1125
00:47:20,473 --> 00:47:22,995
on the Sega Genesis are the Sega the Sonic
games,

1126
00:47:22,995 --> 00:47:29,049
right? Um but um

1127
00:47:23,542 --> 00:47:24,926
Well hold on now. Hold on now.

1128
00:47:26,552 --> 00:47:28,607
Shinobi three is fu is sick.

1129
00:47:29,253 --> 00:47:31,615
I don't think I've ever heard Shinobi
Three music,

1130
00:47:31,615 --> 00:47:31,947
but

1131
00:47:31,764 --> 00:47:32,065
You should

1132
00:47:32,065 --> 00:47:34,425
play it. It's free it's Shinobi Three's
awesome.

1133
00:47:35,289 --> 00:47:36,584
It's my favorite Genesis game.

1134
00:47:36,895 --> 00:47:40,831
You've cajoled me into I'm gonna bring up
Shinobi Three.

1135
00:47:40,831 --> 00:47:44,417
Hopefully we can hear it. Shinobi Three.

1136
00:47:45,499 --> 00:47:46,499
Sega Genesis.

1137
00:47:47,883 --> 00:47:52,588
Yeah, and heck even Michael Jackson has uh
what is basically thriller on the second

1138
00:47:52,588 --> 00:47:54,416
genesis th through his

1139
00:47:54,034 --> 00:47:55,034
yeah.

1140
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,588
this is a freaking review. Give me the
music.

1141
00:48:00,467 --> 00:48:01,467
Sega.

1142
00:48:02,485 --> 00:48:04,452
That was loud. Can you hear it?

1143
00:48:06,070 --> 00:48:07,070
Right.

1144
00:48:08,093 --> 00:48:12,365
Yeah, I don't like how it th I think the
Sega Genesis has like the worst sounding

1145
00:48:12,365 --> 00:48:13,508
hardware. Um

1146
00:48:14,548 --> 00:48:18,131
Yeah, it's like a weird interqual between
the NES and uh SNES,

1147
00:48:18,131 --> 00:48:24,597
because the SE SNES does have objectively
better uh better audio capabilities,

1148
00:48:24,597 --> 00:48:25,097
like

1149
00:48:25,097 --> 00:48:26,097
Yeah.

1150
00:48:26,689 --> 00:48:28,561
it's got really fucking good audio.

1151
00:48:28,561 --> 00:48:31,313
But like the games that make the second
Genesis work,

1152
00:48:31,394 --> 00:48:33,796
like the audio like the Sonic games and
whatnot,

1153
00:48:33,916 --> 00:48:37,910
they sound really good. Like the Genesis
it's it's got

1154
00:48:35,571 --> 00:48:37,902
Yeah. Yeah.

1155
00:48:35,893 --> 00:48:37,072
I think Sonic sounds great.

1156
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:40,502
that Genesis like bass twang.

1157
00:48:40,829 --> 00:48:47,061
Yeah. Yeah. It dude to Sega s uh Sonic
games are sound amazing.

1158
00:48:47,402 --> 00:48:48,765
Um but

1159
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:48,931
And o

1160
00:48:48,931 --> 00:48:52,269
like there's a there's a couple of other
games I think do pretty decent with

1161
00:48:52,269 --> 00:48:55,155
the Genesis uh chips. Like for example,

1162
00:48:55,155 --> 00:48:57,270
uh Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.

1163
00:48:57,629 --> 00:49:02,291
Moonwalker, yeah. Well yeah, Michael
Jackson's team ha like wrote a bunch

1164
00:49:02,291 --> 00:49:03,785
of music for Sonic Three, right?

1165
00:49:04,510 --> 00:49:06,192
Yeah, that's the I mean, that's the word.

1166
00:49:06,192 --> 00:49:09,636
I think they they did end up removing him
because I 'cause I think he was caught

1167
00:49:09,636 --> 00:49:10,888
up in controversy, you know.

1168
00:49:10,814 --> 00:49:11,814
Yeah.

1169
00:49:13,446 --> 00:49:14,504
Uh, dude.

1170
00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:14,770
But yeah,

1171
00:49:14,770 --> 00:49:18,552
they did end up confirming that Michael
Jackson did in fact compose Sonic Three.

1172
00:49:18,610 --> 00:49:23,174
I think that's why l a lot of like Sonic
games don't have a lot of Sonic Three

1173
00:49:23,174 --> 00:49:24,174
remixes.

1174
00:49:24,296 --> 00:49:24,815
Yeah.

1175
00:49:24,815 --> 00:49:28,303
Cause a lot of them kinda sound a lot of
them are composed by Michael Jackson,

1176
00:49:28,303 --> 00:49:32,198
you know, some of them even sound kinda
like Michael Jackson songs.

1177
00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:33,410
Mm-hmm.

1178
00:49:33,410 --> 00:49:35,509
I don't know. That I think that's the
theory.

1179
00:49:35,509 --> 00:49:39,581
I don't know for certain. Maybe people
just aren't as nostalgic for Sonic Three

1180
00:49:39,581 --> 00:49:41,692
as the others, even though I think that's
the best,

1181
00:49:41,692 --> 00:49:42,042
like

1182
00:49:42,030 --> 00:49:42,390
I

1183
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:43,992
I agree. Yeah.

1184
00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:44,686
The best Genesis game.

1185
00:49:45,913 --> 00:49:47,334
Sonic three and Knuckles.

1186
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:49,877
Right. Sonic three knuckles. You can't
forget that.

1187
00:49:50,097 --> 00:49:54,520
Yeah. Ah dude. Whoops,

1188
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,562
I went to the wrong tab. well.

1189
00:49:56,930 --> 00:50:03,587
Alright. Uh yeah. Any any more thoughts on
the um Shinoa you know,

1190
00:50:03,608 --> 00:50:05,289
what's his name? Ueda?

1191
00:50:05,334 --> 00:50:08,635
Uh noble Umatsu Uematsu?

1192
00:50:08,285 --> 00:50:08,955
Uomatsu,

1193
00:50:08,955 --> 00:50:09,955
yeah.

1194
00:50:10,249 --> 00:50:15,320
I mean, I don't think there's anything
wrong with Hollywood style in this in this

1195
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,811
pure sense of like orchestra

1196
00:50:16,797 --> 00:50:17,797
Mm.

1197
00:50:17,811 --> 00:50:19,170
or how they kind of do it sometimes,

1198
00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:20,302
'cause there's some pretty good bangers,

1199
00:50:20,302 --> 00:50:23,153
but I think also Hollywood has this
problem of

1200
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:23,593
Yeah.

1201
00:50:23,593 --> 00:50:25,411
not being unique enough with their scores,

1202
00:50:25,411 --> 00:50:29,084
and that's probably where they're going at
more is like it doesn't really feel

1203
00:50:29,084 --> 00:50:30,825
unique. If you're gonna make this big
game,

1204
00:50:30,825 --> 00:50:34,306
they're putting too much of the budget
into s a lot of other areas

1205
00:50:34,306 --> 00:50:36,056
and not as much into the score itself.

1206
00:50:36,056 --> 00:50:36,717
And that is

1207
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:37,077
Hmm.

1208
00:50:37,077 --> 00:50:38,077
real like

1209
00:50:38,137 --> 00:50:38,818
I already

1210
00:50:38,218 --> 00:50:38,818
Yeah.

1211
00:50:38,818 --> 00:50:42,421
pointed out two games that can do it
nowadays to where they sound they

1212
00:50:42,421 --> 00:50:44,272
are so good. They don't need you don't

1213
00:50:43,881 --> 00:50:44,272
Mm-hmm.

1214
00:50:44,272 --> 00:50:47,335
need to be that good, but do something
unique.

1215
00:50:47,891 --> 00:50:53,013
Yeah. I mean dude if I if I asked you guys
like can you can you hear music in your

1216
00:50:53,013 --> 00:50:57,676
head like when i if I were to say like
Sonic the like son original soundtrack,

1217
00:50:57,676 --> 00:50:58,676
can you hear it?

1218
00:50:58,793 --> 00:50:59,366
Mm-hmm.

1219
00:50:59,366 --> 00:51:00,167
Yeah. Ca

1220
00:50:59,615 --> 00:51:00,447
Yes, I can.

1221
00:51:00,447 --> 00:51:04,049
can you can you hear the intro to
Bioshock?

1222
00:51:05,469 --> 00:51:05,849
Like

1223
00:51:05,555 --> 00:51:06,250
No.

1224
00:51:06,250 --> 00:51:08,671
you can't? Oh.

1225
00:51:06,567 --> 00:51:07,955
It's been a w it's been a while,

1226
00:51:07,955 --> 00:51:09,655
but I remember it being pretty good.

1227
00:51:09,911 --> 00:51:10,662
It that

1228
00:51:10,173 --> 00:51:10,662
I

1229
00:51:10,662 --> 00:51:13,093
theme is burned into my head like

1230
00:51:12,916 --> 00:51:13,107
I've

1231
00:51:13,107 --> 00:51:14,562
also I think I've told you this,

1232
00:51:14,562 --> 00:51:15,285
Gardner,

1233
00:51:15,285 --> 00:51:15,817
Yeah.

1234
00:51:15,817 --> 00:51:17,483
but I've never played Bioshock.

1235
00:51:18,009 --> 00:51:18,549
Okay,

1236
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:20,170
that's fair. If you haven't played
Bioshock,

1237
00:51:20,170 --> 00:51:21,781
then you wouldn't probably know it,

1238
00:51:21,781 --> 00:51:22,781
but

1239
00:51:23,017 --> 00:51:26,046
That's not fair. He he shouldn't he can't
be calling himself a gamer.

1240
00:51:28,456 --> 00:51:30,727
Bioshock is one of the greatest games ever
made.

1241
00:51:30,727 --> 00:51:33,719
I'm just saying. so you definitely should
yeah.

1242
00:51:32,135 --> 00:51:33,629
It it's r it is, it really is.

1243
00:51:33,629 --> 00:51:34,813
It's a really good game.

1244
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:37,431
Yeah. And but I mean like if you know,

1245
00:51:37,431 --> 00:51:42,864
there are iconic like orchestral sounds uh
for games like the Super Mario Galaxy,

1246
00:51:42,865 --> 00:51:43,865
right? Like

1247
00:51:43,913 --> 00:51:45,960
Bro, you can hear that shit in your head.

1248
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,628
Like you don't need but it it

1249
00:51:47,211 --> 00:51:48,815
Right. Like it's o it's

1250
00:51:48,815 --> 00:51:50,821
orchestral, but I wouldn't call it
Hollywood style,

1251
00:51:50,821 --> 00:51:51,821
you know what I'm saying?

1252
00:51:52,194 --> 00:51:53,095
No, you

1253
00:51:52,252 --> 00:51:54,040
That's that's fair, yeah.

1254
00:51:54,638 --> 00:51:58,564
Hollywood style I think it's just bringing
over those scores that are just reused,

1255
00:51:58,564 --> 00:52:01,729
reused in ho and Hollywood movies over
into games,

1256
00:52:01,729 --> 00:52:04,543
which does happen. And it can work okay,

1257
00:52:02,983 --> 00:52:05,474
Well Yeah.

1258
00:52:04,543 --> 00:52:05,485
but you're

1259
00:52:05,485 --> 00:52:06,727
gonna make it sound more generic.

1260
00:52:06,935 --> 00:52:10,336
The thing the thing about ho like when I
hear Hollywood style,

1261
00:52:10,336 --> 00:52:12,687
what I'm thinking is like, you know,

1262
00:52:12,687 --> 00:52:17,279
if dude, I cannot think of the theme to
Avengers.

1263
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:24,823
I g I I can't hear it. I don't know I like
most of the music that like from modern

1264
00:52:25,423 --> 00:52:29,845
uh like cinema that comes to head to my
mind uh is like

1265
00:52:31,049 --> 00:52:34,491
Dune and that isn't not what I would call
like uh you know,

1266
00:52:34,611 --> 00:52:37,032
traditional Hollywood style. You know what
I'm saying?

1267
00:52:36,675 --> 00:52:37,875
interstellar, interstellar.

1268
00:52:37,912 --> 00:52:39,533
Interstellar, that would be yeah,

1269
00:52:39,533 --> 00:52:44,236
and Hans Zimmer is kinda like one of the
only exceptions really to to the modern

1270
00:52:44,236 --> 00:52:47,276
Hollywood style. But like Interstellar
would be something that I could

1271
00:52:47,276 --> 00:52:51,159
he I can hear. But but mum like ev like
like you said,

1272
00:52:50,473 --> 00:52:52,028
But even that's getting old, isn't it?

1273
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:52,300
James, h

1274
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:54,421
yeah, it is. That's like ten years old at
least.

1275
00:52:54,525 --> 00:52:54,966
Yeah,

1276
00:52:54,661 --> 00:52:54,966
Um

1277
00:52:54,966 --> 00:52:58,395
so I think I would probably say within the
last like maybe five,

1278
00:52:58,476 --> 00:53:01,865
ten years, maybe f maybe ten, but five
years for sure.

1279
00:53:02,259 --> 00:53:06,737
Yeah. But I mean even even like I can't
think of the Transformers theme.

1280
00:53:06,737 --> 00:53:08,890
You know what I'm saying? Like that's like
like fifteen,

1281
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:11,475
almost twenty years old. And I I can't
think of it.

1282
00:53:11,475 --> 00:53:15,251
I I know like there was uh yeah,

1283
00:53:13,395 --> 00:53:14,395
I the cartoon one.

1284
00:53:15,251 --> 00:53:16,251
right, exactly.

1285
00:53:16,404 --> 00:53:18,901
I know that I know the Lincoln Park song
that plays at the end.

1286
00:53:18,525 --> 00:53:20,920
I I was gonna say I I know Lincoln Park
song,

1287
00:53:20,167 --> 00:53:20,920
Ha ha ha.

1288
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,920
yeah.

1289
00:53:23,014 --> 00:53:24,837
But that's because I'm a Lincoln Park fan.

1290
00:53:24,838 --> 00:53:26,520
I loved Lincoln Park growing up,

1291
00:53:26,324 --> 00:53:28,926
Man, rest in peace, Chester. And Michael

1292
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,605
but I know, right?

1293
00:53:28,926 --> 00:53:30,473
Jackson. We we didn't say that earlier.

1294
00:53:30,791 --> 00:53:32,310
Yeah. Yep.

1295
00:53:32,361 --> 00:53:32,892
Michael Jackson

1296
00:53:32,892 --> 00:53:35,695
has a little bit more of a the controversy
behind it though.

1297
00:53:35,141 --> 00:53:36,141
Mm-hmm.

1298
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:39,849
Well I think they I mean I think it's been
demonstrably proven in court that

1299
00:53:39,849 --> 00:53:43,086
he didn't do any of the stuff that they
said he did.

1300
00:53:43,929 --> 00:53:44,929
So yeah.

1301
00:53:45,548 --> 00:53:47,213
y I don't know. I've watched a few of
things.

1302
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,448
I'm yeah, I'm I I I think his music's
great,

1303
00:53:49,202 --> 00:53:49,585
I don't know.

1304
00:53:49,470 --> 00:53:51,551
Yeah. All I know is that

1305
00:53:51,448 --> 00:53:51,871
yeah.

1306
00:53:51,871 --> 00:53:56,633
all I know is that Chester Bennington and
uh Chris Cornell from Audio Slave

1307
00:53:56,713 --> 00:54:01,335
and uh Temple of the Dog were like working
together to destroy the Epstein class.

1308
00:54:01,813 --> 00:54:02,375
Yeah.

1309
00:54:02,375 --> 00:54:06,056
Did you did you hear that? That was like a
QAnon conspiracy.

1310
00:54:06,056 --> 00:54:08,517
Like that that's and that's why they ended
up dying.

1311
00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:11,698
Uh was because of that. But anyway,

1312
00:54:11,899 --> 00:54:16,860
dude, that was a wild time. Uh let's talk
about some other psychotic shit.

1313
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:18,111
Google will turn off

1314
00:54:18,447 --> 00:54:19,881
Search for schools

1315
00:54:18,492 --> 00:54:19,492
Good transition.

1316
00:54:19,881 --> 00:54:23,741
that reject AI. Uh what is this about,

1317
00:54:23,741 --> 00:54:24,741
high tech?

1318
00:54:24,808 --> 00:54:29,630
So, schools have the option to restrict AI
tooling for schools,

1319
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:32,562
'cause, you know, AI is all the rage in
school these days.

1320
00:54:33,262 --> 00:54:37,684
I I hate I had a couple of friends th that
were they're really sweet and they like

1321
00:54:37,684 --> 00:54:39,765
back in high school they wanted to be
teachers too.

1322
00:54:40,065 --> 00:54:41,276
I couldn't imagine them becoming

1323
00:54:40,701 --> 00:54:41,276
Mm.

1324
00:54:41,276 --> 00:54:47,039
tea like still fairly new teachers in this
world of uh this world of AI.

1325
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:49,170
Like this is unprecedented by all means.

1326
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:49,650
So yeah.

1327
00:54:49,397 --> 00:54:50,078
Mm.

1328
00:54:50,078 --> 00:54:54,123
Google has now made it so that they can
just restrict AI usage in schools,

1329
00:54:54,123 --> 00:54:59,048
but as a result, you lose access to one of
Google's few products,

1330
00:54:59,409 --> 00:55:00,409
the Google search.

1331
00:55:01,385 --> 00:55:02,942
Hm. Interesting.

1332
00:55:02,675 --> 00:55:03,527
So

1333
00:55:03,527 --> 00:55:06,894
from my understanding I thought they were
losing access to any of the AI tooling

1334
00:55:06,894 --> 00:55:08,327
in the search, but

1335
00:55:09,406 --> 00:55:13,225
No like no you lose access to search as a
whole.

1336
00:55:14,899 --> 00:55:16,412
Yeah. I mean I wish I could tell you,

1337
00:55:16,412 --> 00:55:19,188
but this article is paywalled and I can't
scroll down,

1338
00:55:19,188 --> 00:55:22,064
so uh yeah.

1339
00:55:20,266 --> 00:55:22,093
Wait, is it paintwall? I thought I thought

1340
00:55:22,093 --> 00:55:25,535
I got a gift article. It's supposed to be
gift articled.

1341
00:55:24,901 --> 00:55:25,643
Oh, someone

1342
00:55:25,643 --> 00:55:28,130
unlocked this for you, but I have to log
in to use it.

1343
00:55:28,757 --> 00:55:30,928
Nah, fuck that noise. I'll just read out
the article

1344
00:55:30,928 --> 00:55:35,991
for ya. Let's see, you choose schools that
choose to restrict AI entirely will

1345
00:55:35,991 --> 00:55:37,952
use lose access to Google search.

1346
00:55:38,992 --> 00:55:43,935
Yada yada yada. Students will not have
access to search and they'll see a message

1347
00:55:43,935 --> 00:55:46,356
from their schools in that indicates that
it's not available.

1348
00:55:48,137 --> 00:55:51,239
Like, that's hu that's huge.

1349
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:54,981
That's a huge loss to schools.

1350
00:55:54,981 --> 00:55:56,821
Cause schools use a lot of Googling too.

1351
00:55:57,082 --> 00:55:57,482
I mean

1352
00:55:57,343 --> 00:55:57,888
Mm-hmm.

1353
00:55:57,888 --> 00:55:59,765
Kids don't even know what the fuck Bing
is.

1354
00:56:00,701 --> 00:56:06,128
Well, I will say, like, yes, it it's
shitty that they would do that,

1355
00:56:06,188 --> 00:56:11,335
but also, uh, Google search is one of the
worst search engines that's out there

1356
00:56:11,335 --> 00:56:12,335
right now, so

1357
00:56:12,778 --> 00:56:15,420
Right, well well I mean it's less about
the search itself,

1358
00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:17,311
more like the principle of them taking it
away.

1359
00:56:17,311 --> 00:56:22,944
'Cause like kids do use a lot of Google
search 'cause like uh like I s like like

1360
00:56:20,421 --> 00:56:23,271
It's kind of the standard and yeah.

1361
00:56:22,944 --> 00:56:23,944
I said

1362
00:56:24,866 --> 00:56:27,177
like I said, no one knows what Bing is.

1363
00:56:27,177 --> 00:56:29,127
Maybe the tea s maybe some teachers do,

1364
00:56:29,127 --> 00:56:32,470
but I bet you James, do your kids know
what Bing is?

1365
00:56:33,731 --> 00:56:34,732
Or Yahoo Search.

1366
00:56:33,865 --> 00:56:34,952
They'd be all the time.

1367
00:56:35,613 --> 00:56:38,016
Yahoo Search, duck duck go. Uh

1368
00:56:37,649 --> 00:56:38,030
No, I

1369
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:39,525
teach I teach them as Jeeves, man.

1370
00:56:39,525 --> 00:56:41,181
I think they should just put Ash Jeeves in

1371
00:56:42,772 --> 00:56:43,443
Yeah, we're we're

1372
00:56:43,146 --> 00:56:43,443
Yeah.

1373
00:56:43,443 --> 00:56:47,178
having kids ask Jeeves like it's the
fucking early two thousands again.

1374
00:56:47,178 --> 00:56:48,209
Yeah, okay.

1375
00:56:47,711 --> 00:56:48,605
Dude

1376
00:56:48,605 --> 00:56:50,936
dude, Koggy. Koggy's where it's at.

1377
00:56:51,562 --> 00:56:54,359
Yeah. It's I feel like

1378
00:56:51,625 --> 00:56:54,961
Yeah, but it's paid. Which for the school

1379
00:56:53,127 --> 00:56:54,702
Yeah. But that what that's what

1380
00:56:54,702 --> 00:56:55,304
makes it good.

1381
00:56:54,961 --> 00:56:55,308
might be able

1382
00:56:55,308 --> 00:56:57,730
to do it, but then some schools don't have
the funding for I mean,

1383
00:56:57,730 --> 00:57:00,001
the schools don't have the funding to pay
their teachers.

1384
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,920
And teachers

1385
00:57:00,356 --> 00:57:00,968
well yeah,

1386
00:57:00,425 --> 00:57:00,968
Mm-hmm.

1387
00:57:00,968 --> 00:57:03,178
yeah, teachers are like woefully
underpaid.

1388
00:57:03,178 --> 00:57:04,210
It's it's unfortunate.

1389
00:57:04,081 --> 00:57:04,782
Like

1390
00:57:04,782 --> 00:57:08,987
whoa, it is crazy how underpaid they are
now.

1391
00:57:07,922 --> 00:57:10,698
I wonder how much like I don't know like
we

1392
00:57:09,928 --> 00:57:10,698
Ugh.

1393
00:57:10,698 --> 00:57:13,934
know a teacher. We could ask Bill how much
like I don't know if he's willing

1394
00:57:13,934 --> 00:57:15,377
to divulge that information, but

1395
00:57:15,381 --> 00:57:16,381
Mm.

1396
00:57:16,580 --> 00:57:18,112
he also lives in upstate New York though,

1397
00:57:18,112 --> 00:57:19,645
so it might be a little different for him.

1398
00:57:20,541 --> 00:57:20,903
Mm.

1399
00:57:20,649 --> 00:57:20,941
Yeah, I

1400
00:57:20,941 --> 00:57:23,805
think I think he has to do YouTube in
order to make ends meet.

1401
00:57:24,289 --> 00:57:25,071
No, I don't know.

1402
00:57:24,766 --> 00:57:25,288
I don't

1403
00:57:25,288 --> 00:57:28,950
uh naughty,

1404
00:57:27,007 --> 00:57:28,201
Let's not put that out there.

1405
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:30,214
let we can't s you can't say

1406
00:57:29,275 --> 00:57:30,214
I I'm not po

1407
00:57:30,214 --> 00:57:30,909
that.

1408
00:57:30,909 --> 00:57:32,422
I sh I shouldn't say it that way.

1409
00:57:32,422 --> 00:57:35,489
I shouldn't say it that way. I I what I
should say is like a lot of teachers have

1410
00:57:35,489 --> 00:57:38,025
to do s secondary jobs to make ends meet
though.

1411
00:57:38,482 --> 00:57:39,542
Yes. I know

1412
00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:39,919
That that is fair.

1413
00:57:40,002 --> 00:57:42,063
I know two different teachers.

1414
00:57:42,082 --> 00:57:46,553
Uh both of them are women and the only
reason they're able to like have

1415
00:57:46,553 --> 00:57:50,706
a livelihood in a family is because their
husbands one of them works in finance

1416
00:57:50,706 --> 00:57:51,887
and I don't remember what the other one
does,

1417
00:57:51,887 --> 00:57:55,638
but in tech or something and they he makes
the money and the and she does

1418
00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:57,069
the teaching because she loves it.

1419
00:57:57,726 --> 00:57:58,116
Right.

1420
00:57:58,116 --> 00:58:01,510
Like teaching is not something that you
get into for the money.

1421
00:58:02,290 --> 00:58:06,304
It makes no s like even the teachers that
pr kinda seem like they don't give a shit

1422
00:58:06,304 --> 00:58:08,656
anymore, they did give a shit at one
point,

1423
00:58:08,656 --> 00:58:11,939
but yeah. They knew what they were getting
into.

1424
00:58:12,380 --> 00:58:14,472
But I guess they just well maybe they
didn't.

1425
00:58:12,785 --> 00:58:14,549
Yeah, it's it's not ha that's not ha
that's

1426
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:15,461
not how you have a good system.

1427
00:58:15,461 --> 00:58:16,974
You don't have a good system. You want
prestige.

1428
00:58:16,974 --> 00:58:18,697
You want people like scientists,

1429
00:58:17,941 --> 00:58:18,697
Hm.

1430
00:58:18,697 --> 00:58:21,904
teachers to be the sought after positions.

1431
00:58:22,442 --> 00:58:22,714
Yeah.

1432
00:58:22,610 --> 00:58:22,971
Right.

1433
00:58:22,971 --> 00:58:26,416
But the problem is that the scientists
they don't they don't wanna teach,

1434
00:58:26,416 --> 00:58:27,420
they wanna do the doing.

1435
00:58:28,501 --> 00:58:31,587
Yeah, and some of 'em and a lot of
scientists even don't don't make that much

1436
00:58:31,587 --> 00:58:36,536
money actually. The ones that actually
give us the cures and all that oftentimes

1437
00:58:36,536 --> 00:58:38,581
don't make enough like they don't make
that much.

1438
00:58:40,042 --> 00:58:41,372
Which is unfortunate too because

1439
00:58:41,319 --> 00:58:41,539
It's

1440
00:58:41,539 --> 00:58:44,576
it's just the investors. Like that's the
problem where our our the whole thing.

1441
00:58:44,576 --> 00:58:46,349
Like this is a bonus topic thing more,

1442
00:58:46,349 --> 00:58:51,039
but like the system's broken. So yeah.

1443
00:58:49,357 --> 00:58:51,068
Yeah, you want to talk about a broken

1444
00:58:51,068 --> 00:58:55,349
system. Google is by far the dominant
technology player in K through twelve

1445
00:58:54,676 --> 00:58:55,349
Mm-hmm.

1446
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:58,150
classrooms. Google's suite of education
apps,

1447
00:58:58,150 --> 00:59:01,331
including Gmail, docs, and an assignment
platform called Classroom,

1448
00:59:01,331 --> 00:59:03,381
is ubiquitous. Google Chromebooks,

1449
00:59:03,381 --> 00:59:07,662
low-cost laptops, are the most widely
issued student devices in US schools,

1450
00:59:07,802 --> 00:59:10,543
and Google is synonymous with internet
search,

1451
00:59:10,703 --> 00:59:12,984
a crucial tool for students across the
globe.

1452
00:59:13,324 --> 00:59:15,184
Guys, is it time

1453
00:59:14,025 --> 00:59:15,025
Right. Like if you

1454
00:59:15,184 --> 00:59:16,685
to nationalize Google?

1455
00:59:17,127 --> 00:59:20,741
Yeah. I think there's a couple of services
that need to be nationalized.

1456
00:59:20,822 --> 00:59:23,685
Google search is one. Um

1457
00:59:21,129 --> 00:59:22,270
Google being one of them.

1458
00:59:24,206 --> 00:59:25,007
yeah, I mean

1459
00:59:24,542 --> 00:59:25,166
Yeah.

1460
00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:26,529
tr Twitter would being another.

1461
00:59:27,647 --> 00:59:28,367
Like really

1462
00:59:27,925 --> 00:59:28,925
Yeah.

1463
00:59:29,027 --> 00:59:33,109
like really though, this like we we like
to talk about how like there are many

1464
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:33,789
alternatives

1465
00:59:33,128 --> 00:59:33,789
Read it.

1466
00:59:33,789 --> 00:59:35,449
and yes there are many alternatives.

1467
00:59:35,849 --> 00:59:37,840
Some are probably better some are better
than Google,

1468
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,231
like uh Kagi I think he said in
Watsgardner,

1469
00:59:40,231 --> 00:59:42,231
right? Right.

1470
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:42,643
Kagi, yeah. Kagi's awesome.

1471
00:59:42,992 --> 00:59:48,723
But realistically though, if a school were
to lose access to Google search,

1472
00:59:48,723 --> 00:59:50,954
it would cribble them in a significant
fashion,

1473
00:59:50,994 --> 00:59:51,994
I would imagine.

1474
00:59:52,008 --> 00:59:52,508
Especially

1475
00:59:52,212 --> 00:59:52,508
Yeah.

1476
00:59:52,508 --> 00:59:53,899
kids that do a lot of research,

1477
00:59:54,259 --> 00:59:55,559
that have to do a lot of research.

1478
00:59:55,739 --> 00:59:57,320
They can't do any of that in school.

1479
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:04,152
They have to like go on Bing or some like
uh like I don't saw I I bet you some

1480
01:00:04,152 --> 01:00:05,442
teachers, like English teachers,

1481
01:00:05,442 --> 01:00:09,754
don't even know what Bing is. Or yeah like
or like the fact that you can

1482
01:00:09,277 --> 01:00:09,754
Mm.

1483
01:00:09,754 --> 01:00:11,324
get other search alternatives.

1484
01:00:11,545 --> 01:00:14,335
That they I think it's po it's very
possible that some of those teachers think

1485
01:00:14,335 --> 01:00:16,106
that Google is the only search engine.

1486
01:00:17,301 --> 01:00:18,862
I think this is education for teachers.

1487
01:00:18,862 --> 01:00:22,605
Honestly, I think if they start screwing
around with this,

1488
01:00:22,626 --> 01:00:25,388
good. I don't think we should have them
have Google search.

1489
01:00:26,269 --> 01:00:27,720
Cause here's the thing. Here's the thing.

1490
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,492
They're getting free publicity that when
they do all this,

1491
01:00:30,492 --> 01:00:32,434
that the whole Microsoft did the same
thing.

1492
01:00:32,434 --> 01:00:35,246
This is why Microsoft ever became a a big
deal,

1493
01:00:35,246 --> 01:00:38,759
is that they injected into the school
systems their services.

1494
01:00:37,855 --> 01:00:38,855
Mm-hmm.

1495
01:00:39,059 --> 01:00:39,640
And it's not

1496
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,723
necessarily a bad thing to um have some of
these services,

1497
01:00:43,723 --> 01:00:45,525
but they're doing it for

1498
01:00:46,983 --> 01:00:49,239
Not they're not doing it because they're
kind.

1499
01:00:49,540 --> 01:00:50,540
Let's just say that.

1500
01:00:50,612 --> 01:00:51,612
Right.

1501
01:00:51,626 --> 01:00:55,796
This is not definitely not because they
they're doing a nicety.

1502
01:00:57,991 --> 01:01:00,824
So I these these people are then will use

1503
01:01:00,169 --> 01:01:00,824
Yeah.

1504
01:01:00,824 --> 01:01:03,306
this once they go to the business world or
whatever world.

1505
01:01:03,566 --> 01:01:07,240
They'll continue to make uh and Google
will make tons of money based off

1506
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,635
of um a near indoctrination into like use
using these systems.

1507
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:12,755
Yeah.

1508
01:01:12,755 --> 01:01:13,896
I'm not gonna say like

1509
01:01:14,317 --> 01:01:16,879
it's like I want more choice, is what I'm
saying.

1510
01:01:16,879 --> 01:01:18,751
Like, and if they wanna screw

1511
01:01:18,057 --> 01:01:18,751
Yeah, I mean

1512
01:01:18,751 --> 01:01:20,291
around with this, then so be it.

1513
01:01:20,291 --> 01:01:23,295
Like there's other services and these
teachers.

1514
01:01:23,539 --> 01:01:25,713
We could educate them, they they they
could find it.

1515
01:01:25,713 --> 01:01:27,182
They're smarter than we give them credit.

1516
01:01:27,182 --> 01:01:28,978
They're gonna be able to have other
resources.

1517
01:01:29,620 --> 01:01:32,442
The the other thing is Adobe does the same
thing,

1518
01:01:32,442 --> 01:01:33,563
right? Like they they

1519
01:01:33,161 --> 01:01:33,563
Yeah.

1520
01:01:33,563 --> 01:01:36,826
paid to develop courses that can be like

1521
01:01:36,340 --> 01:01:36,826
Yep.

1522
01:01:36,826 --> 01:01:40,159
that are prepackaged for college
classrooms.

1523
01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:41,540
And it's like uh

1524
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:41,500
Mm-hmm.

1525
01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:47,125
it's like if they if all the schools are
teaching how to edit in pr premiere,

1526
01:01:47,766 --> 01:01:51,909
you know, then then that's gonna be uh
guaranteed revenue in the future.

1527
01:01:52,530 --> 01:01:55,993
Um it's more thousands more. Yeah.

1528
01:01:52,660 --> 01:01:55,062
Yep. And it has. It's worked out this far.

1529
01:01:55,062 --> 01:01:56,053
Uh this

1530
01:01:56,053 --> 01:01:57,874
uh worked out like this this far.

1531
01:01:58,154 --> 01:02:03,928
Um all I know is that teachers are are
very resilient and very intelligent.

1532
01:02:03,928 --> 01:02:06,400
I w I I don't think this is gonna be as
big of a blocker.

1533
01:02:06,932 --> 01:02:07,268
Mm-hmm.

1534
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:07,371
It

1535
01:02:07,371 --> 01:02:10,213
sucks. I mean Google shouldn't be doing
this type of stuff,

1536
01:02:10,213 --> 01:02:11,423
but if they're gonna fuck around,

1537
01:02:11,423 --> 01:02:12,604
they're gonna find out, I think,

1538
01:02:12,604 --> 01:02:13,604
in this kind of sense.

1539
01:02:14,057 --> 01:02:15,057
Yeah.

1540
01:02:15,614 --> 01:02:19,238
Well, it's good that Google finds out
because like they can't keep getting away

1541
01:02:19,238 --> 01:02:20,238
with this.

1542
01:02:20,285 --> 01:02:20,526
I

1543
01:02:20,328 --> 01:02:20,747
Yeah.

1544
01:02:20,747 --> 01:02:23,355
don't know if they I mean w they're
already making losses,

1545
01:02:23,355 --> 01:02:25,100
so it'll be interesting to see where
Google goes.

1546
01:02:27,582 --> 01:02:28,032
Mm.

1547
01:02:27,912 --> 01:02:28,912
Um

1548
01:02:29,073 --> 01:02:33,267
Yeah. Um the next

1549
01:02:30,815 --> 01:02:32,560
Mm-hmm.

1550
01:02:33,267 --> 01:02:35,250
stories links are not opening for me.

1551
01:02:35,250 --> 01:02:37,472
Yeah,

1552
01:02:36,010 --> 01:02:37,010
Are they not really?

1553
01:02:37,472 --> 01:02:39,964
the games radar? It's just not opening.

1554
01:02:40,619 --> 01:02:41,619
that's weird.

1555
01:02:41,747 --> 01:02:44,189
No article found it says. Anyway,

1556
01:02:44,189 --> 01:02:47,572
but we're gonna talk about uh could AI

1557
01:02:46,826 --> 01:02:47,673
Does

1558
01:02:47,673 --> 01:02:51,356
ports force Rockstar to put GTA six on PC
sooner?

1559
01:02:52,339 --> 01:02:53,979
Yeah, why is that not?

1560
01:02:54,192 --> 01:02:54,522
wait,

1561
01:02:54,260 --> 01:02:54,522
Yeah.

1562
01:02:54,522 --> 01:02:56,094
it's all one link, that's why.

1563
01:02:56,094 --> 01:02:58,125
It's been paste

1564
01:02:57,262 --> 01:02:58,262
did I just

1565
01:02:58,266 --> 01:02:59,898
yeah, it's all been pasted as one link,

1566
01:02:59,898 --> 01:03:02,400
that's why. At least the first two
articles have.

1567
01:03:04,401 --> 01:03:07,119
I I I pro I probably

1568
01:03:04,582 --> 01:03:06,667
Oh I see. Okay.

1569
01:03:06,408 --> 01:03:07,229
If you copy paste

1570
01:03:07,229 --> 01:03:10,668
it manually i it'll work. Like dic yeah,

1571
01:03:10,668 --> 01:03:12,864
separate Dexerto and uh games radar.

1572
01:03:10,803 --> 01:03:12,654
Got it. Got it.

1573
01:03:13,073 --> 01:03:15,415
Alright, I was thinking like Rockstar had

1574
01:03:14,962 --> 01:03:15,415
Oh

1575
01:03:15,415 --> 01:03:21,258
like totally screwed uh screwed up these
got them all delisted 'cause

1576
01:03:19,678 --> 01:03:20,678
Yeah.

1577
01:03:21,258 --> 01:03:24,380
e they're evil. Alright, here we go.

1578
01:03:24,380 --> 01:03:25,877
We got it. We got it. We're good.

1579
01:03:25,877 --> 01:03:26,877
We're golden.

1580
01:03:27,250 --> 01:03:32,148
GTA six it's coming out uh let me see.

1581
01:03:32,447 --> 01:03:34,089
Twelve days, eleven days, ten days,

1582
01:03:34,089 --> 01:03:35,089
something I don't know, what is it?

1583
01:03:35,735 --> 01:03:38,916
Uh let's see what the official release
date is,

1584
01:03:38,976 --> 01:03:40,257
assuming it doesn't get delayed.

1585
01:03:39,153 --> 01:03:41,683
N uh nineteenth, November nineteenth.

1586
01:03:40,957 --> 01:03:41,857
On the nineteenth.

1587
01:03:41,857 --> 01:03:44,899
So you have next week.

1588
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,700
Oh, comes out on Thursday of the week
after.

1589
01:03:47,421 --> 01:03:48,421
Mm.

1590
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,671
Triple A games always coming on Thursday.

1591
01:03:50,671 --> 01:03:52,752
Remember this by the way. This is
important.

1592
01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:53,223
I thought it was Tuesday.

1593
01:03:52,752 --> 01:03:54,542
Alright.

1594
01:03:53,941 --> 01:03:55,230
Tuesdays or Thursdays, I think.

1595
01:03:55,883 --> 01:03:58,764
Tuesdays or Thursdays. Uh

1596
01:03:57,341 --> 01:03:58,341
Okay.

1597
01:03:58,764 --> 01:04:02,886
but yeah. Just in time for Friday of not
this week,

1598
01:04:02,886 --> 01:04:03,886
but the next week.

1599
01:04:04,469 --> 01:04:06,392
Dude, there's gonna be so much.

1600
01:04:06,452 --> 01:04:08,435
It's also the week before

1601
01:04:09,055 --> 01:04:09,737
Thanksgiving.

1602
01:04:09,737 --> 01:04:12,921
Thanksgiving, right? Like that's prime for
them too.

1603
01:04:13,021 --> 01:04:15,615
Like, my gosh. The

1604
01:04:14,396 --> 01:04:15,691
Man, that's good

1605
01:04:16,255 --> 01:04:17,255
Aww shit.

1606
01:04:18,983 --> 01:04:22,259
Is there is Thurs is Thanksgiving the
nineteenth or the twenty sixth?

1607
01:04:22,654 --> 01:04:25,056
It's the twenty sixth. It's the it's

1608
01:04:23,642 --> 01:04:24,944
It's the twenty sixth, so they g

1609
01:04:24,287 --> 01:04:25,301
gonna be the twenty sixth.

1610
01:04:25,056 --> 01:04:28,920
the last it's the last Thanksg it's the
last Thursday of every

1611
01:04:26,949 --> 01:04:28,936
It's the last Thursday of the month.

1612
01:04:29,031 --> 01:04:31,456
Yeah. Okay. Nice.

1613
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,421
uh yeah of the month, yeah.

1614
01:04:31,623 --> 01:04:33,845
So yeah, GTA six is coming out soon.

1615
01:04:33,845 --> 01:04:38,499
That's the it's the m it's the end times
of the gaming industry.

1616
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:38,318
Ha ha ha.

1617
01:04:38,318 --> 01:04:41,985
Dude, it is gonna be really interesting to
see what happens.

1618
01:04:38,499 --> 01:04:42,764
This this is Dude

1619
01:04:42,473 --> 01:04:43,135
Dude, I can't

1620
01:04:42,764 --> 01:04:43,135
there's

1621
01:04:43,135 --> 01:04:47,445
believe we got a blue wave before we got
before we got GTA Six.

1622
01:04:48,053 --> 01:04:49,053
That's funny.

1623
01:04:49,076 --> 01:04:49,417
Dude,

1624
01:04:49,417 --> 01:04:54,616
GTA dude, there's gonna be two distinct
eras of the gaming uh of gaming history.

1625
01:04:54,877 --> 01:04:57,701
Before GTA six and after GTA six.

1626
01:04:58,004 --> 01:04:58,727
Mm.

1627
01:04:58,727 --> 01:05:04,710
What I wanna see this is what if they
would have released on the day of election

1628
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:08,902
or like a day or two before the election
and see how much it would have dipped

1629
01:05:09,462 --> 01:05:13,194
because people were playing. This is I
don't think people understand.

1630
01:05:13,194 --> 01:05:18,886
Like I GTA six is going to cause a lot of
issues,

1631
01:05:18,886 --> 01:05:21,428
I think. Um not like major, major ones,

1632
01:05:21,428 --> 01:05:22,998
but a lot of people are gonna call in
sick.

1633
01:05:22,998 --> 01:05:24,229
It's gonna be interesting to see.

1634
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:27,954
Boss boss, I've I've got the flu.

1635
01:05:27,954 --> 01:05:31,069
I it's really bad. I can barely move my
hands.

1636
01:05:31,614 --> 01:05:31,900
Okay.

1637
01:05:31,816 --> 01:05:32,230
Ha ha.

1638
01:05:31,831 --> 01:05:32,271
I need

1639
01:05:32,271 --> 01:05:36,148
to I need to take uh the next week off.

1640
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:41,851
It'll be interesting. And people have
vacation days maybe they've been saving

1641
01:05:41,851 --> 01:05:43,201
up for like a week or two, you know?

1642
01:05:43,201 --> 01:05:46,250
Like I i i

1643
01:05:45,597 --> 01:05:46,392
Mm.

1644
01:05:46,392 --> 01:05:49,333
it's it's it might be considered a
national holiday at this point.

1645
01:05:49,393 --> 01:05:50,393
So

1646
01:05:50,690 --> 01:05:51,690
Phew.

1647
01:05:52,234 --> 01:05:56,055
that would be sad, but I just know that
like Playstations are

1648
01:05:53,944 --> 01:05:54,944
Yeah.

1649
01:05:56,055 --> 01:05:57,413
out, like you can't buy playstations,

1650
01:05:57,413 --> 01:06:00,117
you can't do a lot of stuff because people
are getting ready for this.

1651
01:06:00,557 --> 01:06:01,169
So

1652
01:06:01,169 --> 01:06:01,990
Mm.

1653
01:06:01,990 --> 01:06:06,396
Dude, my brother whoops, my brother bought
a Series X to play this.

1654
01:06:06,637 --> 01:06:08,479
And I'm like, why?

1655
01:06:09,428 --> 01:06:09,912
Well it's better than

1656
01:06:09,459 --> 01:06:10,315
He's a statistic.

1657
01:06:09,912 --> 01:06:11,916
buying a play it's better than buying a
PlayStation.

1658
01:06:12,285 --> 01:06:15,846
Yeah. Uh I don't I d I just

1659
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:16,028
But Astrobots so awesome.

1660
01:06:16,407 --> 01:06:20,738
dude, I just like man. I just don't
understand GTA six.

1661
01:06:20,738 --> 01:06:24,320
Like I like I don't get it. GTA was

1662
01:06:23,688 --> 01:06:24,262
I do. Uh

1663
01:06:23,925 --> 01:06:24,320
It's

1664
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,271
fun like in like GTA three era.

1665
01:06:28,137 --> 01:06:28,807
It's the triple

1666
01:06:28,232 --> 01:06:29,232
I stopped I

1667
01:06:29,312 --> 01:06:31,073
I stopped enjoying it at San Andreas,

1668
01:06:31,073 --> 01:06:32,073
honestly.

1669
01:06:32,104 --> 01:06:34,439
It's the triple A version of Silksong.

1670
01:06:32,255 --> 01:06:35,731
But a lot of yeah. Oh my gosh.

1671
01:06:35,659 --> 01:06:36,532
Hmm.

1672
01:06:36,532 --> 01:06:37,013
I don't

1673
01:06:36,825 --> 01:06:39,069
Remember how the Silksong means?

1674
01:06:39,609 --> 01:06:43,090
my gosh, silksong. No, it it's it's
nostalgic for a lot of people.

1675
01:06:43,110 --> 01:06:45,091
I I understand why people like it.

1676
01:06:45,431 --> 01:06:50,773
It's not my cup of tea. Uh GTA usually
like it it's I like open worlds,

1677
01:06:50,773 --> 01:06:54,054
but I like I like actually like good
stories,

1678
01:06:54,054 --> 01:06:58,292
but um not this I I think this is like I
don't know,

1679
01:06:58,292 --> 01:06:59,736
I like I don't like GTA stories.

1680
01:06:59,976 --> 01:07:00,976
But um

1681
01:07:01,108 --> 01:07:02,096
Mm-hmm.

1682
01:07:02,096 --> 01:07:03,497
I I get it. Nostalgia

1683
01:07:03,879 --> 01:07:05,931
You can do whatever you want. This is
gonna be the biggest one.

1684
01:07:05,931 --> 01:07:07,112
There's a lot of height behind it.

1685
01:07:07,332 --> 01:07:09,684
The I I me from a technical standpoint,

1686
01:07:09,684 --> 01:07:13,017
I will buy GTA six at one point or get it.

1687
01:07:13,658 --> 01:07:16,500
Or maybe if I can buy it on Xbox,

1688
01:07:16,781 --> 01:07:18,472
I can port it over my PC, you know,

1689
01:07:18,472 --> 01:07:22,956
if someone does what so like that's what
is being rumored.

1690
01:07:22,956 --> 01:07:27,350
Uh a former rock star North technical
director told Rock Rock Papers Shotgun

1691
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:30,803
he'd be wort um he'd be worried if he were
rock star.

1692
01:07:31,146 --> 01:07:34,869
That someone would take the PS5 version
and use AI to convert it to PC.

1693
01:07:34,911 --> 01:07:35,383
Mm-hmm.

1694
01:07:35,069 --> 01:07:36,500
He said that that version

1695
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:39,122
wouldn't be as good as an official port,

1696
01:07:39,122 --> 01:07:41,414
but could still hurt cells. Him saying all
that,

1697
01:07:41,414 --> 01:07:43,566
like, is also kind of funny from a
technical director.

1698
01:07:43,566 --> 01:07:44,847
That actually means something,

1699
01:07:44,847 --> 01:07:50,481
but um, a PC port with AI could probably
make it better than AI than

1700
01:07:49,853 --> 01:07:50,641
Mm.

1701
01:07:50,641 --> 01:07:56,276
Rockstar. Uh probably, especially since
for Xbox and PlayStation,

1702
01:07:56,276 --> 01:08:00,509
these are PC ports. That's the funny thing
we live in today is that.

1703
01:08:01,427 --> 01:08:07,449
The hardware is the same. It's just they
have their APIs that like

1704
01:08:07,449 --> 01:08:12,120
the especially the PlayStation APIs are
different for

1705
01:08:11,157 --> 01:08:12,157
Mm-hmm.

1706
01:08:12,380 --> 01:08:15,361
um creating games for it, but they're not
that different.

1707
01:08:15,361 --> 01:08:21,803
Meaning that's why we have all these games
being ported over like r um like

1708
01:08:22,023 --> 01:08:27,874
uh Astropot and stuff. This I guarantee
you,

1709
01:08:27,874 --> 01:08:30,495
like if you want to put money on the
polymarket right now.

1710
01:08:30,953 --> 01:08:33,774
Don't do it, but if you want to and you
want to make some money,

1711
01:08:34,455 --> 01:08:39,279
I bet you they're gonna have a bet on how
fast this gets ported over to PC.

1712
01:08:38,526 --> 01:08:39,279
Yeah.

1713
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:40,658
And it's probably within the first week.

1714
01:08:40,899 --> 01:08:46,243
Because this is so big. And Rockstar will
probably try to do like Sue

1715
01:08:46,243 --> 01:08:49,886
and do all this. They should have just
fucking released it on PC.

1716
01:08:50,216 --> 01:08:51,216
Yep.

1717
01:08:51,487 --> 01:08:56,130
I want developers to have like some
ownership of what they release,

1718
01:08:56,130 --> 01:09:00,603
whatever. But no, this is them trying to
make more money and fuck them for it.

1719
01:09:01,863 --> 01:09:05,500
Yeah. Yeah. everything bad that happens

1720
01:09:04,874 --> 01:09:05,500
Mm-hmm.

1721
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:07,783
to Rockstar, uh, they deserve.

1722
01:09:10,131 --> 01:09:10,876
Yeah.

1723
01:09:10,876 --> 01:09:11,859
Now for the scary

1724
01:09:11,859 --> 01:09:18,049
part What w happens in the gaming industry
if GTA six sucks?

1725
01:09:19,687 --> 01:09:20,687
It does.

1726
01:09:20,863 --> 01:09:21,863
No, but like

1727
01:09:22,073 --> 01:09:23,073
Well, I mean

1728
01:09:23,154 --> 01:09:24,915
objectively, it depend

1729
01:09:23,622 --> 01:09:24,872
If normies hate it.

1730
01:09:24,995 --> 01:09:28,367
it it depends on yeah, it depends on the
industry and the people that are to like

1731
01:09:28,367 --> 01:09:30,738
it. Like if people that like GTA 5 and 4,

1732
01:09:31,099 --> 01:09:33,160
those are the people that are gonna be
buying this.

1733
01:09:33,941 --> 01:09:36,881
Um if they think it sucks. That's who what
matters to.

1734
01:09:37,563 --> 01:09:40,104
Um Yeah. I don't think it's going

1735
01:09:39,133 --> 01:09:40,104
Yeah. Yeah.

1736
01:09:40,104 --> 01:09:45,627
to. I think people have seen enough uh of
the hacked uh version

1737
01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:45,888
Hm.

1738
01:09:45,888 --> 01:09:47,428
that I I don't think it's gonna suck.

1739
01:09:47,428 --> 01:09:48,428
I think this is gonna be

1740
01:09:49,470 --> 01:09:51,010
Game of the year, unfortunately.

1741
01:09:51,729 --> 01:09:52,250
Um

1742
01:09:51,881 --> 01:09:53,466
It's either that Ocarina of Time.

1743
01:09:54,071 --> 01:09:55,642
no, this is gonna be game of the year.

1744
01:09:55,642 --> 01:10:00,163
Ocarina time is gonna be big. But we'll
see.

1745
01:10:00,163 --> 01:10:01,613
I don't think it's gonna be this.

1746
01:10:03,314 --> 01:10:04,494
It makes me really sad though,

1747
01:10:04,494 --> 01:10:08,892
because we also we had Control Resident is
my game of the year.

1748
01:10:08,892 --> 01:10:12,816
Oh, it's so good. But Um Yeah.

1749
01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:15,167
I mean it it

1750
01:10:15,901 --> 01:10:20,156
I i I really don't think especially the
Xbox version will be the the one that will

1751
01:10:20,156 --> 01:10:26,143
be the easiest to port over. Um I just
don't like there's are the all the files

1752
01:10:26,143 --> 01:10:29,467
are already out there. Technically there's
already hacked versions of GTA 6 from

1753
01:10:29,467 --> 01:10:31,179
my understanding out in the wild.

1754
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:31,967
Mm.

1755
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:32,120
Um

1756
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,935
the biggest thing that might do you do you
guys know how big this is?

1757
01:10:37,482 --> 01:10:38,811
Like GTA six, yeah.

1758
01:10:39,977 --> 01:10:41,803
Did we ever talk about how big it is?

1759
01:10:42,098 --> 01:10:42,664
Mm no.

1760
01:10:42,425 --> 01:10:43,398
Like size.

1761
01:10:43,398 --> 01:10:45,424
It's

1762
01:10:44,064 --> 01:10:45,141
Two hundred and something gigs.

1763
01:10:45,424 --> 01:10:47,400
like two hundred and twelve, two hundred
and sixteen gigs.

1764
01:10:47,849 --> 01:10:51,199
Well, that's almost half a call of duty.

1765
01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:53,010
Ha ha ha ha.

1766
01:10:55,029 --> 01:10:56,970
Almost have a call of duty. Call of Duty's
so stupid.

1767
01:10:57,097 --> 01:10:57,383
Yeah.

1768
01:10:57,271 --> 01:10:57,471
But

1769
01:10:57,471 --> 01:11:00,089
that's like, guys, like you

1770
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:00,373
Yeah.

1771
01:11:00,373 --> 01:11:04,646
we cannot have be killing off physical
media if our games are gonna be

1772
01:11:04,646 --> 01:11:08,199
in the 200 realm and our and hard drives
are so small.

1773
01:11:08,639 --> 01:11:14,133
That means, oh cool, I can have GTA and
download a part of G of Call of Duty,

1774
01:11:14,133 --> 01:11:15,904
and that's that that's what I can play on
my game,

1775
01:11:15,904 --> 01:11:16,985
my console. Like,

1776
01:11:16,853 --> 01:11:17,406
Mm.

1777
01:11:17,406 --> 01:11:21,939
I get it. GTA is is a little bit of an
exception where people are going to get

1778
01:11:23,305 --> 01:11:26,907
Thousands of hours out of this game
because this game has thousands of hours

1779
01:11:26,907 --> 01:11:29,928
to play. If you want a game that's gonna
be a bang for your buck,

1780
01:11:29,928 --> 01:11:33,170
if you like GTA, GTA will be successful in
that stand

1781
01:11:33,109 --> 01:11:33,871
Mm-hmm.

1782
01:11:33,871 --> 01:11:35,962
alone. I mean, I want to get eaten by an
alligator,

1783
01:11:35,962 --> 01:11:37,903
don't you? I mean that's why I play it.

1784
01:11:37,903 --> 01:11:38,773
But

1785
01:11:38,773 --> 01:11:45,585
i uh

1786
01:11:41,329 --> 01:11:42,329
Mm.

1787
01:11:45,173 --> 01:11:46,596
Hey James, you know what we should

1788
01:11:45,585 --> 01:11:46,585
Yeah.

1789
01:11:46,596 --> 01:11:50,252
do on our Steam machines? Try a GTA

1790
01:11:49,529 --> 01:11:50,252
What?

1791
01:11:50,252 --> 01:11:52,276
six port, uh VZ port.

1792
01:11:51,646 --> 01:11:52,646
Mm.

1793
01:11:52,717 --> 01:11:53,448
Assuming it does

1794
01:11:52,798 --> 01:11:53,798
Yeah, I mean,

1795
01:11:54,045 --> 01:11:55,884
I'm not gonna make any content on it,

1796
01:11:55,884 --> 01:11:56,884
but I'll do it.

1797
01:11:57,095 --> 01:11:58,820
I would do it. I would make

1798
01:11:58,101 --> 01:11:58,820
I'd do it.

1799
01:11:58,820 --> 01:12:01,257
content on it. Fuck Rockstar. I don't even
care.

1800
01:12:01,170 --> 01:12:01,420
I

1801
01:12:01,420 --> 01:12:04,383
just don't want I d I I really I don't
even do emulation

1802
01:12:03,925 --> 01:12:04,383
Mm-hmm.

1803
01:12:04,383 --> 01:12:05,975
stuff that much 'cause I just don't want
the headache.

1804
01:12:05,975 --> 01:12:07,983
But uh I'll talk about it, but

1805
01:12:06,367 --> 01:12:08,020
Dude, if if there is

1806
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,655
if there is a PC port, you better bet I'm
gonna live stream that shit.

1807
01:12:11,655 --> 01:12:13,628
I'm gonna talk about it on my website.

1808
01:12:12,309 --> 01:12:14,012
You're gonna have to

1809
01:12:12,864 --> 01:12:13,864
D

1810
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,901
Gar oh no yo, Gardner's

1811
01:12:14,152 --> 01:12:15,525
you're a live stream that's different
yeah,

1812
01:12:15,525 --> 01:12:16,525
yeah, yeah. I would

1813
01:12:16,901 --> 01:12:17,914
gonna do it.

1814
01:12:18,153 --> 01:12:18,975
Dude,

1815
01:12:18,975 --> 01:12:20,518
what are they gonna do? Fuck them.

1816
01:12:19,135 --> 01:12:24,185
Do it. Yeah, I mean it but you're you're
you're not Oh,

1817
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:23,684
I didn't make I didn't make the port.

1818
01:12:24,216 --> 01:12:26,721
but you're talking about playing it on
your device and talking about it,

1819
01:12:26,344 --> 01:12:27,696
Yeah. Yeah.

1820
01:12:26,721 --> 01:12:27,721
right?

1821
01:12:27,978 --> 01:12:30,424
Do on your homemade do on your home brew
steam

1822
01:12:28,185 --> 01:12:30,249
I mean, yeah, I don't I don't mind that.

1823
01:12:30,424 --> 01:12:31,424
machine.

1824
01:12:32,327 --> 01:12:33,286
Yeah, and I will.

1825
01:12:32,615 --> 01:12:33,456
I would I just wouldn't

1826
01:12:33,456 --> 01:12:35,890
make like full on content on it for me.

1827
01:12:35,829 --> 01:12:36,087
Mm.

1828
01:12:35,890 --> 01:12:36,310
Like meaning

1829
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:40,517
like how to do it. Yeah, I'm not c that's
what I'm talking about.

1830
01:12:36,874 --> 01:12:40,611
How to run GT uh how to run GT since I use

1831
01:12:40,611 --> 01:12:41,362
T machine.

1832
01:12:40,745 --> 01:12:41,745
Yeah.

1833
01:12:42,146 --> 01:12:45,256
Yeah. I mean I would I would post an
article about it.

1834
01:12:44,615 --> 01:12:49,405
Maybe an article, yeah. The article you
could you'll get you'll be fine with.

1835
01:12:45,256 --> 01:12:47,227
I wouldn't do a YouTube th this is the
thing,

1836
01:12:47,227 --> 01:12:48,227
man. It's like if

1837
01:12:49,428 --> 01:12:54,239
Yeah. Like it's like, dude, there were one
of the t uh questions for the panel that

1838
01:12:54,239 --> 01:13:01,051
you have in here says, like, will Rockstar
use DMCA to go after a fan like a AI port

1839
01:13:01,111 --> 01:13:03,022
faster than the fan projects that they've
gone after?

1840
01:13:03,022 --> 01:13:06,993
And it's like dude, if you're host if
you're self hosting like a

1841
01:13:06,993 --> 01:13:08,083
Git lab or something

1842
01:13:08,883 --> 01:13:11,405
What are they gonna do? Like, fuck them,

1843
01:13:11,506 --> 01:13:13,746
you know? Like they could go after your
host.

1844
01:13:12,137 --> 01:13:13,748
They could s they they they can tie you

1845
01:13:13,748 --> 01:13:16,199
they they could they could tie you up in
court even.

1846
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:20,441
They could. Doesn't mean but then you'll
probably there's a good chance that

1847
01:13:20,701 --> 01:13:22,132
if you can get a just a good enough
lawyer,

1848
01:13:22,132 --> 01:13:24,613
you're you're just getting a paycheck from
them,

1849
01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:28,355
Yeah. Dude. Yeah.

1850
01:13:24,613 --> 01:13:28,030
but it's in intimidation tactics is what
it is,

1851
01:13:28,030 --> 01:13:28,494
and it's very

1852
01:13:28,494 --> 01:13:29,494
sketchy.

1853
01:13:29,496 --> 01:13:33,419
Right. But that's I mean that's that's why
I wouldn't like m spend the time

1854
01:13:33,419 --> 01:13:38,552
to produce like a long video. Because I
would post it on YouTube and then it would

1855
01:13:38,552 --> 01:13:40,433
get DMCA claimed, right? But

1856
01:13:39,839 --> 01:13:40,433
Yeah.

1857
01:13:40,433 --> 01:13:42,975
if I if I'm live streaming and they shut
down my stream,

1858
01:13:42,975 --> 01:13:45,966
whatever. I'm not out, right? If I write
an article,

1859
01:13:46,047 --> 01:13:49,419
they can't DMCA it, right? Like they they
liter it's my website,

1860
01:13:47,956 --> 01:13:50,167
Yeah well Yeah,

1861
01:13:49,419 --> 01:13:50,168
they can fuck off.

1862
01:13:50,168 --> 01:13:52,899
they're they're not gonna I don't think
they're gonna go after anyone like that.

1863
01:13:52,899 --> 01:13:56,802
They're gonna go after b also they're
gonna go after the the avenues where they

1864
01:13:56,802 --> 01:13:59,714
know that they can rig it the mo the
easiest.

1865
01:13:59,714 --> 01:14:01,375
And YouTube is unfortunately one of those.

1866
01:14:00,275 --> 01:14:02,204
Yeah. Yeah.

1867
01:14:02,616 --> 01:14:04,697
Cause Rockstar's already assholes.

1868
01:14:04,857 --> 01:14:07,119
Like to the ex they've already pissed me
off.

1869
01:14:07,979 --> 01:14:10,991
Just when I've tried watching their
trailers.

1870
01:14:10,991 --> 01:14:13,103
It's promoting their stuff, technically.

1871
01:14:13,123 --> 01:14:15,995
And they they would frickin' claim stuff.

1872
01:14:15,995 --> 01:14:16,937
I it's

1873
01:14:16,937 --> 01:14:18,886
They're unhinged, in my opinion.

1874
01:14:18,655 --> 01:14:18,886
Yeah.

1875
01:14:18,886 --> 01:14:20,554
They're like Nintendo, where I'm like,

1876
01:14:20,554 --> 01:14:21,619
okay, cool guys, like

1877
01:14:22,506 --> 01:14:25,024
I would argue they're worse than intended
in some in some regards.

1878
01:14:25,269 --> 01:14:25,982
Mm.

1879
01:14:25,982 --> 01:14:30,313
I I have been able to get away with
watching some y uh Nintendo stuff.

1880
01:14:30,154 --> 01:14:31,962
Like yeah, mm oh

1881
01:14:30,955 --> 01:14:32,087
I've not been able to do

1882
01:14:32,087 --> 01:14:33,440
anything when it comes to Rockstar.

1883
01:14:33,907 --> 01:14:34,305
Yeah.

1884
01:14:33,962 --> 01:14:34,472
Yeah, like

1885
01:14:34,472 --> 01:14:40,125
I did video editing for fan the deck for a
little bit and I put in a old Red Dead

1886
01:14:40,125 --> 01:14:42,417
Redemption two trail Red Dead Redemption
One

1887
01:14:41,343 --> 01:14:42,343
That's right.

1888
01:14:42,417 --> 01:14:45,688
trailer. Redemption one, like three sixty
era trailer.

1889
01:14:44,531 --> 01:14:45,531
Mm-hmm.

1890
01:14:46,509 --> 01:14:48,570
Could not do it. They

1891
01:14:47,882 --> 01:14:48,570
Yep.

1892
01:14:48,570 --> 01:14:52,462
they claimed it, he didn't and we had to
edit it that part out.

1893
01:14:52,462 --> 01:14:54,097
I put a little note in there too.

1894
01:14:54,097 --> 01:14:55,214
I don't remember which video it was,

1895
01:14:55,214 --> 01:14:56,214
but like yeah.

1896
01:14:56,403 --> 01:14:58,766
Yeah. Yeah, they're bad people.

1897
01:14:58,766 --> 01:15:01,800
And they believe bad things. And I yeah,

1898
01:15:01,863 --> 01:15:03,024
I just don't like the anti

1899
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,024
every

1900
01:15:03,024 --> 01:15:06,376
capitalist side of things where they they
got theirs and then they just pull

1901
01:15:06,376 --> 01:15:09,719
up the ladder and anyone that w can try to
make some money off their cause they're

1902
01:15:09,979 --> 01:15:12,241
they're the and and this is this is it.

1903
01:15:12,241 --> 01:15:15,283
This isn't like if you make a billion
dollars even as a company nowadays,

1904
01:15:15,283 --> 01:15:18,846
it's just like you might as well be
unethical,

1905
01:15:19,146 --> 01:15:21,447
even if you're a company making billion
dollars.

1906
01:15:21,448 --> 01:15:25,801
So 'cause they just do not understand.

1907
01:15:25,801 --> 01:15:28,513
The engine runs itself t for

1908
01:15:29,126 --> 01:15:31,908
making and printing money. So I don't
know.

1909
01:15:32,089 --> 01:15:34,280
Like it th this will be awesome to see.

1910
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:38,244
Like we're in a really interesting cause
even if like Claude and all these these

1911
01:15:38,244 --> 01:15:42,487
models ban it, the engine like the people
that are actually doing this are talented

1912
01:15:42,487 --> 01:15:43,798
enough and with the models they have,

1913
01:15:43,798 --> 01:15:47,041
I think this is they can use Chinese ones.

1914
01:15:47,041 --> 01:15:49,523
There's a lot of uh options to go and I
think it's gonna be done.

1915
01:15:50,084 --> 01:15:50,915
It's just be interesting

1916
01:15:50,433 --> 01:15:50,915
Do you

1917
01:15:50,915 --> 01:15:52,366
to see how fast it's done.

1918
01:15:52,957 --> 01:15:56,759
Okay, so the trajectory of Rockstar's like
you know,

1919
01:15:56,759 --> 01:16:03,302
just craziness says that not only would
they go after the people who you used

1920
01:16:03,302 --> 01:16:07,374
AI to port the stuff, but they'd go after
the A like AI companies too.

1921
01:16:07,374 --> 01:16:09,065
How much you wanna bet?

1922
01:16:10,503 --> 01:16:12,967
they will definitely be saying Chipt and
Claude,

1923
01:16:12,967 --> 01:16:14,659
like, you better not or we're gonna sue
you.

1924
01:16:14,461 --> 01:16:15,871
Yeah. Yeah.

1925
01:16:16,061 --> 01:16:18,364
G guarantee it. That being said,

1926
01:16:18,753 --> 01:16:22,349
um they're they they're not gonna be able
to go have their Chinese ones.

1927
01:16:19,670 --> 01:16:20,975
How about the Chinese models though?

1928
01:16:20,975 --> 01:16:24,890
uh

1929
01:16:22,613 --> 01:16:26,174
Oh my gosh.

1930
01:16:24,837 --> 01:16:27,040
Like i i weirdly enough, China

1931
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,406
is a little bit of like uh like for us
type of people,

1932
01:16:31,446 --> 01:16:32,446
our our savings.

1933
01:16:34,014 --> 01:16:34,495
Yo, I'd

1934
01:16:34,015 --> 01:16:34,556
Mm.

1935
01:16:34,556 --> 01:16:40,421
I'd be willing to bet that China comes out
with a GTA six port on PC with their dude,

1936
01:16:40,421 --> 01:16:42,837
that'd be that'd be fucking hilarious.

1937
01:16:41,493 --> 01:16:43,311
That would be that'd

1938
01:16:43,311 --> 01:16:46,655
be awesome. Uh

1939
01:16:47,327 --> 01:16:50,262
I don't think China like would allow GTA.

1940
01:16:50,262 --> 01:16:53,157
That's also another funny thing is I don't
think they'd allow GTA to be the release

1941
01:16:53,157 --> 01:16:54,157
there.

1942
01:16:54,949 --> 01:16:56,827
No. That

1943
01:16:56,437 --> 01:16:56,827
So

1944
01:16:56,827 --> 01:16:57,827
is true.

1945
01:16:57,898 --> 01:17:01,961
they don't they're not favorable on crime
games.

1946
01:17:03,903 --> 01:17:07,866
And GTA is about as that's another I just
don't like committing crimes in games.

1947
01:17:08,707 --> 01:17:12,820
It can be kind of like fun to do the like
crashing things,

1948
01:17:12,820 --> 01:17:15,493
but if they're if they're gonna make it
more realistic where people are gonna

1949
01:17:15,493 --> 01:17:17,554
bleed I don't know if they're gonna make
people bleed out in the streets,

1950
01:17:17,554 --> 01:17:19,046
but if they're gonna make it more and more
realistic,

1951
01:17:19,046 --> 01:17:20,387
I'm definitely not gonna wanna play that.

1952
01:17:20,387 --> 01:17:21,918
It's gonna be really hard for

1953
01:17:21,556 --> 01:17:21,918
Mm.

1954
01:17:21,918 --> 01:17:25,201
me to oh I feel bad for the NPCs.

1955
01:17:25,959 --> 01:17:31,775
Mm-hmm. Me too. Dude, I felt bad when I
was uh a little kid and my cousin picked

1956
01:17:31,775 --> 01:17:36,359
up like a a guy in roller coaster tycoon
and dropped him in the lake.

1957
01:17:36,340 --> 01:17:37,180
Yeah.

1958
01:17:37,180 --> 01:17:39,282
I was like, oh I was like mom,

1959
01:17:39,382 --> 01:17:42,885
Lucas killing people in the roller coaster
tycoon.

1960
01:17:41,023 --> 01:17:42,023
People

1961
01:17:48,003 --> 01:17:48,809
Wow.

1962
01:17:48,809 --> 01:17:49,310
Yeah.

1963
01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:50,938
Snitching on your cousin, I see.

1964
01:17:51,282 --> 01:17:53,409
Yeah. Well d he was murdering people.

1965
01:17:56,082 --> 01:17:56,711
Uh

1966
01:17:56,711 --> 01:17:58,908
I feel like high tech you'd be the person
doing that.

1967
01:17:59,613 --> 01:18:03,877
Yeah. Yeah. Uh

1968
01:18:01,719 --> 01:18:02,719
Mm-hmm.

1969
01:18:03,877 --> 01:18:06,599
yeah. High tech's over here playing casino
tycoon.

1970
01:18:07,559 --> 01:18:08,449
Ha ha ha.

1971
01:18:08,449 --> 01:18:10,037
Casino Royale more like.

1972
01:18:10,122 --> 01:18:11,122
Yeah.

1973
01:18:11,485 --> 01:18:12,086
Uh

1974
01:18:12,086 --> 01:18:12,832
Uh

1975
01:18:12,204 --> 01:18:13,135
Uh dude, talk

1976
01:18:13,135 --> 01:18:18,309
speaking of casinos, AMD said it's a data
center first company now.

1977
01:18:19,362 --> 01:18:20,847
my gosh, this is

1978
01:18:20,031 --> 01:18:21,372
Gaming revenues are

1979
01:18:21,372 --> 01:18:26,466
down uh forty percent. And they're gonna
blame gamers for this,

1980
01:18:26,466 --> 01:18:26,957
aren't they?

1981
01:18:26,767 --> 01:18:26,997
I

1982
01:18:26,997 --> 01:18:29,308
I yeah, I love how they're blaming gamers
when it's like,

1983
01:18:29,308 --> 01:18:31,959
dude, fucking gamers can't get any
hardware.

1984
01:18:32,105 --> 01:18:32,527
Yeah.

1985
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:33,080
Like,

1986
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,710
you're not making it easier, apparently,

1987
01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:36,602
to get it to us. tariffs, like,

1988
01:18:37,022 --> 01:18:38,763
I don't know if they've bowed to Trump,

1989
01:18:38,763 --> 01:18:42,064
but like. Nvidia has. Like,

1990
01:18:42,064 --> 01:18:47,757
tariffs, NAN. No, we're not gonna blame
any of the actual conditions.

1991
01:18:47,757 --> 01:18:48,797
Like, no, we're gonna Okay,

1992
01:18:48,403 --> 01:18:48,797
Mm.

1993
01:18:48,797 --> 01:18:50,428
screw you guys. You didn't buy enough of
our stuff.

1994
01:18:50,428 --> 01:18:52,659
We're gonna switch over to like and
they're and I think they're

1995
01:18:53,321 --> 01:18:56,572
They've gone up in how much gamers are
buying of AMD.

1996
01:18:56,572 --> 01:18:57,762
Like they have

1997
01:18:57,140 --> 01:18:58,140
Yeah.

1998
01:18:58,182 --> 01:19:01,263
positive PR. AMD does, like,

1999
01:19:01,297 --> 01:19:01,721
Uh-huh.

2000
01:19:01,463 --> 01:19:01,873
kind

2001
01:19:01,873 --> 01:19:04,064
of. Like they could do a lot more.

2002
01:19:04,544 --> 01:19:07,483
And they're kind of just spitting like
what do we have now though?

2003
01:19:07,483 --> 01:19:09,526
Like we have AMD, NVIDIA, and Intel.

2004
01:19:09,834 --> 01:19:10,526
Mm-hmm.

2005
01:19:10,526 --> 01:19:15,577
We're we're screwed. We're either going to
have to continue this uh going down this

2006
01:19:15,577 --> 01:19:19,498
route, or they're opening up to
competitors,

2007
01:19:19,498 --> 01:19:21,779
especially if we can I don't know.

2008
01:19:22,447 --> 01:19:25,519
free up some of the equ some of that
capital from the AI.

2009
01:19:25,519 --> 01:19:29,222
Maybe s they'll actually invest in a new
AMD,

2010
01:19:29,222 --> 01:19:29,802
but

2011
01:19:29,802 --> 01:19:30,337
Mm.

2012
01:19:30,337 --> 01:19:32,434
I don't know. It's really expensive to get
into.

2013
01:19:32,434 --> 01:19:33,705
It's really hard to get into these.

2014
01:19:33,705 --> 01:19:36,457
That's why they they're so sure of
themselves when they do stuff like this.

2015
01:19:36,457 --> 01:19:37,688
But I I really hope they

2016
01:19:38,037 --> 01:19:38,508
Mm.

2017
01:19:38,508 --> 01:19:39,508
they get theirs.

2018
01:19:39,614 --> 01:19:42,965
If AMD is so good, how come there's no AMD
two?

2019
01:19:46,129 --> 01:19:47,179
Right, but real talk

2020
01:19:46,455 --> 01:19:47,455
That would

2021
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,331
but real talk though, the the blaming the
gamers thing is just an excuse for them

2022
01:19:51,331 --> 01:19:56,074
to get out of gaming entire like much like
much like NVIDIA themselves.

2023
01:19:56,074 --> 01:19:57,014
NVIDIA doesn't consider

2024
01:19:56,533 --> 01:19:57,014
Mm.

2025
01:19:57,014 --> 01:19:58,725
themselves a gaming company anymore.

2026
01:19:59,145 --> 01:20:03,087
And with AMD and NVIDIA both not being
gaming companies anymore,

2027
01:20:03,507 --> 01:20:09,460
there are no gaming in the future I could
see them wiping out gaming GPUs entirely.

2028
01:20:11,049 --> 01:20:13,170
Maybe Qualcomm will just eat their lunch.

2029
01:20:13,405 --> 01:20:13,705
Mm.

2030
01:20:13,410 --> 01:20:13,809
Cause

2031
01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:15,692
I think maybe that's what they see too,

2032
01:20:15,692 --> 01:20:17,332
is that there's more and more mobile,

2033
01:20:17,332 --> 01:20:18,713
more and more of these mobile chips.

2034
01:20:18,713 --> 01:20:22,255
ARM is kind of just like just doing really
well.

2035
01:20:22,707 --> 01:20:23,707
Yeah.

2036
01:20:24,286 --> 01:20:26,578
SteamOS on ARM is doing really well.

2037
01:20:27,258 --> 01:20:29,559
That's another one I don't know if we t
have ever talked about,

2038
01:20:29,559 --> 01:20:34,902
but the SteamOS VM that you can run

2039
01:20:35,002 --> 01:20:39,745
on uh Mac OS now, you can run it like
games really well on Mac.

2040
01:20:40,303 --> 01:20:40,479
wow.

2041
01:20:40,411 --> 01:20:40,903
Via

2042
01:20:40,903 --> 01:20:42,258
the Steam OS armport.

2043
01:20:42,869 --> 01:20:45,427
Mm-hmm.

2044
01:20:44,669 --> 01:20:45,469
Witcher three might look

2045
01:20:45,469 --> 01:20:46,469
kind of funny, but

2046
01:20:47,955 --> 01:20:49,736
I think Oh sorry, go ahead.

2047
01:20:48,041 --> 01:20:50,443
Have you well

2048
01:20:50,714 --> 01:20:57,390
there's a what is it called? There's like
a um way you can play Steam it's called

2049
01:20:57,390 --> 01:21:00,573
Droid Deck. A Dash just did an article
about it too,

2050
01:21:00,573 --> 01:21:06,979
where you can install basically uh st uh
as close to a SteamOS experience on like

2051
01:21:06,979 --> 01:21:10,332
an A Thor. And it's like it's crazy,

2052
01:21:10,332 --> 01:21:12,845
dude. Yeah.

2053
01:21:11,133 --> 01:21:12,535
Oh yeah

2054
01:21:12,915 --> 01:21:17,440
sorry. Um also E ETA Prime did a whole
video on this.

2055
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:18,180
It's it's uh

2056
01:21:17,684 --> 01:21:18,301
Mm-hmm.

2057
01:21:18,301 --> 01:21:20,082
FX stream steam launcher.

2058
01:21:20,373 --> 01:21:21,054
Mm.

2059
01:21:21,054 --> 01:21:23,980
Yeah, so I've been Yeah,

2060
01:21:21,344 --> 01:21:22,344
For for Mac.

2061
01:21:23,980 --> 01:21:28,649
I've been using Droid Deck too and it's
really g it's really fucking good.

2062
01:21:28,649 --> 01:21:28,969
Like

2063
01:21:28,862 --> 01:21:29,671
Mm-hmm.

2064
01:21:29,671 --> 01:21:31,174
it's insanely good, like

2065
01:21:34,153 --> 01:21:35,067
Do you think it's similar?

2066
01:21:34,227 --> 01:21:35,067
Yeah, it's

2067
01:21:35,067 --> 01:21:38,343
Sorry, I I know I was going off on a whole
other thing and you guys

2068
01:21:38,154 --> 01:21:38,435
Do you think

2069
01:21:38,435 --> 01:21:39,460
it's uh like what do you mean?

2070
01:21:39,460 --> 01:21:40,460
What?

2071
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:43,772
I'm like it was kinda cu like are they

2072
01:21:43,124 --> 01:21:44,124
Was it FX droid?

2073
01:21:44,770 --> 01:21:49,575
uh no, so FX Steam Launcher is is for um
Mac.

2074
01:21:49,835 --> 01:21:50,845
I'm kinda curious if the

2075
01:21:50,494 --> 01:21:50,845
Mm.

2076
01:21:50,845 --> 01:21:54,187
droid one is uh if they're even using the
same tech.

2077
01:21:54,187 --> 01:21:59,680
'Cause this is like and I wonder if the FX
Steam Launcher is using the new um Apple

2078
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,232
emulator. 'Cause there is a new Apple
emulator uh layer,

2079
01:22:03,232 --> 01:22:05,323
but I don't know. But they're using a VM
essentially.

2080
01:22:05,810 --> 01:22:08,885
Uh a light VM to run

2081
01:22:08,286 --> 01:22:08,885
So

2082
01:22:08,885 --> 01:22:09,885
SteamOS.

2083
01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:10,501
it's kind

2084
01:22:10,086 --> 01:22:10,501
Mm.

2085
01:22:10,501 --> 01:22:13,572
of a similar thing here with uh with droid
deck.

2086
01:22:13,572 --> 01:22:16,294
It runs a whole st it doesn't do I don't
think it does a full VM.

2087
01:22:16,294 --> 01:22:17,294
It does like a

2088
01:22:19,346 --> 01:22:25,393
It does like a um it does download a Linux
runtime to then

2089
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,387
Mm. Okay.

2090
01:22:25,394 --> 01:22:31,251
run Steam OS in and it's the full desktop
it's not just that's not just the game

2091
01:22:31,251 --> 01:22:34,214
mode, but like also the Steam OS desktop
experience.

2092
01:22:34,214 --> 01:22:35,095
I'll

2093
01:22:34,495 --> 01:22:35,095
Mm.

2094
01:22:35,095 --> 01:22:36,095
be running an arm.

2095
01:22:37,235 --> 01:22:41,408
Yeah. It's pretty neat, man. I like I
don't know.

2096
01:22:41,408 --> 01:22:46,451
So so I think like the future of gaming is
gonna be like smaller vendors,

2097
01:22:46,451 --> 01:22:48,713
like Qualcomm is gonna be supporting it.

2098
01:22:48,833 --> 01:22:53,296
Maybe maybe uh Intel, like Intel's GPUs,

2099
01:22:53,236 --> 01:22:54,017
Yeah.

2100
01:22:54,017 --> 01:23:01,001
um I that's pr you know, I'd like to see a
future where r risk five uh

2101
01:23:00,713 --> 01:23:01,502
Yeah.

2102
01:23:01,502 --> 01:23:03,443
like really comes into its own.

2103
01:23:04,084 --> 01:23:05,945
Um yeah.

2104
01:23:05,395 --> 01:23:06,056
Then maybe this is

2105
01:23:06,056 --> 01:23:07,960
it. Maybe we're gonna have a rough ten
years.

2106
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,007
We'll still have really good hardware and
we're gonna hopefully be able to still

2107
01:23:11,007 --> 01:23:14,144
buy some, but like it's gonna be really
limited.

2108
01:23:12,147 --> 01:23:13,884
Yeah. Dude

2109
01:23:14,665 --> 01:23:16,168
But maybe we'll be really good.

2110
01:23:16,647 --> 01:23:20,643
We should save a lot of the political
stuff for the the you know,

2111
01:23:20,723 --> 01:23:26,441
bonus episode, but I will say I I have I
have a lot of hope that uh things

2112
01:23:26,441 --> 01:23:30,236
are going to turn around. So that's all
I'll say about that.

2113
01:23:30,985 --> 01:23:34,092
We could see more domestic side of
policies

2114
01:23:33,180 --> 01:23:34,092
Yeah.

2115
01:23:34,092 --> 01:23:38,423
too that come into play that help Yeah.

2116
01:23:37,118 --> 01:23:39,239
Yeah, and I mean Rico investigations,

2117
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:41,100
like these companies are like this

2118
01:23:40,167 --> 01:23:41,100
That too.

2119
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:47,902
is this I this is the result of like CEOs
colluding with each other

2120
01:23:48,143 --> 01:23:54,535
to make the har computer hardware out of
reach so that they can implement

2121
01:23:54,535 --> 01:23:59,477
a cloud first future where you uh where
intelligence is on tap,

2122
01:23:59,477 --> 01:24:01,728
compute is on tap, and they are in
control.

2123
01:24:01,203 --> 01:24:03,776
Yeah. I don't like it. The more and more

2124
01:24:02,368 --> 01:24:03,738
That yeah.

2125
01:24:03,776 --> 01:24:05,859
I use it. Yeah. It just it costs so much.

2126
01:24:05,859 --> 01:24:07,701
I feel I don't want a subscription on my
life.

2127
01:24:08,157 --> 01:24:10,298
Yeah. I mean we talked about we

2128
01:24:08,843 --> 01:24:09,884
Of d my digital life.

2129
01:24:10,298 --> 01:24:11,889
talked about data centers, right?

2130
01:24:11,889 --> 01:24:17,983
Like and we were talking about like you
can't build um you know you can't build

2131
01:24:18,063 --> 01:24:20,164
ethical or we can talk you I think James,

2132
01:24:19,859 --> 01:24:23,000
We can build 'em but yeah, yeah.

2133
01:24:20,164 --> 01:24:22,665
you said we can talk about building
ethical data centers,

2134
01:24:22,866 --> 01:24:23,326
but

2135
01:24:23,326 --> 01:24:29,269
I believe, I genuinely wholeheartedly
believe that there is no such thing

2136
01:24:29,329 --> 01:24:34,672
as an ethical data center. D the only
ethical way to compute is completely

2137
01:24:34,792 --> 01:24:35,792
decentralized.

2138
01:24:35,955 --> 01:24:41,310
That's what I believe. Like, if we want to
have a future where there is equity

2139
01:24:41,670 --> 01:24:45,893
in the way that we uh make data and share
knowledge,

2140
01:24:46,644 --> 01:24:50,437
then it has to be completely
decentralized.

2141
01:24:50,718 --> 01:24:53,900
We can't have an internet that is,

2142
01:24:54,021 --> 01:25:00,926
you know, that that is controlled from the
top down by misanthropic cloistered

2143
01:25:01,267 --> 01:25:04,019
asshole billionaires. We have to have

2144
01:25:05,093 --> 01:25:09,898
a a future where anyone has equal footing
on the internet.

2145
01:25:10,299 --> 01:25:11,480
And there

2146
01:25:11,050 --> 01:25:11,480
Yeah.

2147
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:13,962
are tons of technologies that can enable
that,

2148
01:25:14,062 --> 01:25:20,619
but we have ignored them all in favor of
uh technologies that are like

2149
01:25:20,619 --> 01:25:27,306
profoundly anti democratic and uh and are
antithetical to the values that establish

2150
01:25:27,306 --> 01:25:28,317
the internet in the first place.

2151
01:25:29,310 --> 01:25:33,243
I think yeah, it's really hard 'cause I d
I'd want things to be moved back into more

2152
01:25:33,243 --> 01:25:36,495
personal compute. Um, I think there's also
some I mean,

2153
01:25:36,495 --> 01:25:40,317
I've been playing around with uh another
one of my Nova Helm things is like

2154
01:25:40,657 --> 01:25:44,320
uh distributing my compute at home 'cause
I have a bunch of different small devices.

2155
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:45,120
So

2156
01:25:44,725 --> 01:25:45,120
Uh-huh.

2157
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,123
instead of using like GitHub's um runners
for checking my code,

2158
01:25:49,283 --> 01:25:52,825
like for co I have I have a lot of tests
that need to run every time I do a PR.

2159
01:25:53,170 --> 01:25:53,866
I I

2160
01:25:53,194 --> 01:25:53,866
Mm-hmm.

2161
01:25:53,866 --> 01:25:57,368
I offload it onto my uh other devices and
make it easier to do that.

2162
01:25:57,829 --> 01:25:58,829
Like um

2163
01:26:00,047 --> 01:26:03,422
But uh I mean mom and pop data centers.

2164
01:26:03,422 --> 01:26:05,805
They're that's what we need. Mom and pop
data centers.

2165
01:26:05,423 --> 01:26:11,128
Mm. Yeah, I mean I have I have I have

2166
01:26:07,668 --> 01:26:08,960
I don't know if that's even possible.

2167
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,512
'Cause it takes capital, but

2168
01:26:11,063 --> 01:26:15,568
Yeah, I have a mom Yeah, I have a mom
yeah,

2169
01:26:11,128 --> 01:26:13,360
an eight foot tall server rack in my
closet.

2170
01:26:13,380 --> 01:26:15,182
That's about as mom as pop as it gets.

2171
01:26:13,833 --> 01:26:15,995
Yeah. That

2172
01:26:15,568 --> 01:26:17,695
I have a Mom and Pop data data center in
my house too.

2173
01:26:18,579 --> 01:26:22,630
Yeah. How do you c how do you try like and
and with that will eat up a lot of like

2174
01:26:23,331 --> 01:26:26,142
internet congestion. You'll have a lot of
internet congestion if you don't

2175
01:26:26,142 --> 01:26:30,283
centralize it well enough. So like i
there's these hard things where you need

2176
01:26:30,283 --> 01:26:31,884
to have some centralized data,

2177
01:26:31,884 --> 01:26:37,976
some centralized systems, but at the same
time uh or maybe with the f the the dawn

2178
01:26:37,976 --> 01:26:40,217
of more fiber, or maybe it doesn't matter
as much,

2179
01:26:40,217 --> 01:26:41,217
but there's still like

2180
01:26:41,609 --> 01:26:45,593
There is still throughput. There's still a
lot that this is a complicated question.

2181
01:26:45,813 --> 01:26:46,834
I don't think

2182
01:26:45,929 --> 01:26:46,874
Yeah. Well

2183
01:26:46,874 --> 01:26:51,128
having two companies like Nvidia and AMD
be the ones that say what's the right

2184
01:26:51,128 --> 01:26:53,320
one and they're gonna make the right
decisions to the right call.

2185
01:26:53,607 --> 01:26:54,347
Mm. No,

2186
01:26:53,621 --> 01:26:54,347
Definitely.

2187
01:26:54,347 --> 01:26:58,209
yeah. And and frankly, like I think
thinking about like the future

2188
01:26:58,209 --> 01:27:02,741
of computing and and like connectivity
through the lens of IPv four

2189
01:27:02,801 --> 01:27:04,932
or IPv six even i is

2190
01:27:04,543 --> 01:27:04,932
Yeah.

2191
01:27:04,932 --> 01:27:06,073
the wrong way to think about it,

2192
01:27:06,073 --> 01:27:11,966
right? Like I those technologies h
innately are centralizable and what

2193
01:27:11,966 --> 01:27:14,627
we should be doing is looking at things
like reticulum,

2194
01:27:14,787 --> 01:27:17,328
which is it is not centralizable.

2195
01:27:17,328 --> 01:27:22,000
Like there's no there's no central
authority in t on like T L S or whatever,

2196
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,511
right? Like you have

2197
01:27:23,511 --> 01:27:30,234
uh your o you provision your own keys and
you are able to communicate freely

2198
01:27:30,454 --> 01:27:32,474
with anyone else on the network.

2199
01:27:32,555 --> 01:27:37,036
Like that's that's the future that we need
to be building towards.

2200
01:27:37,557 --> 01:27:43,759
Um I don't think we can afford to continue
with like the internet as it is now.

2201
01:27:43,819 --> 01:27:48,681
Like it's just not worth it. It's not
sustainable.

2202
01:27:50,142 --> 01:27:52,083
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where
this all goes.

2203
01:27:53,865 --> 01:27:55,646
It will be interesting. I think

2204
01:27:55,285 --> 01:27:56,285
Yeah.

2205
01:27:56,487 --> 01:28:00,049
I think well and even so, like data
centers are needed,

2206
01:28:00,049 --> 01:28:07,014
but they push in such a way that it's
worth they're worth more than human lives

2207
01:28:07,014 --> 01:28:09,817
and that is really they've lost the plot,

2208
01:28:08,927 --> 01:28:10,782
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

2209
01:28:09,817 --> 01:28:10,751
man.

2210
01:28:10,751 --> 01:28:13,212
They really have lost a plot when it comes
to data centers.

2211
01:28:13,212 --> 01:28:15,533
Like I don't I'm sorry, but like food,

2212
01:28:15,533 --> 01:28:18,522
water, I I get it our infrastructure runs
on some of this,

2213
01:28:18,522 --> 01:28:21,656
but dude, okay, then cut off like we have
tons.

2214
01:28:21,656 --> 01:28:27,808
Cut off a bunch of the s the services if
it's if we need to have like fundamental

2215
01:28:29,339 --> 01:28:32,290
services running on it for distributing
our food or whatever.

2216
01:28:32,290 --> 01:28:32,631
But

2217
01:28:32,477 --> 01:28:33,477
Mm.

2218
01:28:33,551 --> 01:28:36,712
we need water, food,

2219
01:28:36,961 --> 01:28:37,961
land

2220
01:28:38,742 --> 01:28:40,507
More than we need data centers.

2221
01:28:40,916 --> 01:28:41,916
Yeah.

2222
01:28:44,019 --> 01:28:44,455
Yep.

2223
01:28:44,455 --> 01:28:45,455
It's

2224
01:28:45,826 --> 01:28:49,178
it's really interesting. I think it will
be solved over time,

2225
01:28:49,178 --> 01:28:51,149
hopefully, in a an ethical way,

2226
01:28:51,149 --> 01:28:52,990
but we'll see. Like AMD making this,

2227
01:28:52,990 --> 01:28:54,571
I think, is going to hurt them a lot.

2228
01:28:54,611 --> 01:29:00,254
That being said, I think that that they're
just moving more and more away from

2229
01:29:00,515 --> 01:29:02,916
the gaming hardware and just consoles.

2230
01:29:02,916 --> 01:29:04,067
So we'll probably

2231
01:29:03,722 --> 01:29:04,067
Mm-hmm.

2232
01:29:04,067 --> 01:29:06,498
maybe we'll see them in the next like
we're gonna see them in the next

2233
01:29:06,738 --> 01:29:09,850
generation of consoles, but even consoles
like PlayStation's doing everything they

2234
01:29:09,850 --> 01:29:10,850
can to kill themselves.

2235
01:29:11,369 --> 01:29:11,672
Mm-hmm.

2236
01:29:11,411 --> 01:29:13,173
Like they're doing everything

2237
01:29:13,173 --> 01:29:15,895
they can to commit suicide. hope sorry,

2238
01:29:15,895 --> 01:29:18,528
YouTube algorithm, but uh

2239
01:29:17,285 --> 01:29:18,285
Mm.

2240
01:29:18,608 --> 01:29:23,452
the like they are really trying to hurt
themselves.

2241
01:29:24,093 --> 01:29:27,056
I'm curious to see if it's it.

2242
01:29:27,056 --> 01:29:30,359
Like after this next gen, AMD's just
doesn't do consoles anymore.

2243
01:29:30,641 --> 01:29:36,384
Uh I wouldn't be shocked if the Steam deck
too is is hindered from some of this.

2244
01:29:36,661 --> 01:29:37,420
Mm-hmm.

2245
01:29:37,420 --> 01:29:38,966
maybe they have a deal already in place.

2246
01:29:38,966 --> 01:29:42,500
Maybe we'll be the last Steam Deck to have
AMD GPUs,

2247
01:29:41,211 --> 01:29:43,219
No dude, if this is the last

2248
01:29:42,500 --> 01:29:43,341
but

2249
01:29:43,341 --> 01:29:45,260
dude, this is how the Steam Deck dies,

2250
01:29:45,260 --> 01:29:46,260
man. This is

2251
01:29:46,906 --> 01:29:51,100
No, we there's but they but the thing if
if Valve lets it die because of this,

2252
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:53,192
that's on them because there's Qualcomm.

2253
01:29:53,493 --> 01:29:54,253
Mm.

2254
01:29:54,253 --> 01:29:58,827
And they've already proved it with the
Steam frame that it's honestly they should

2255
01:29:58,827 --> 01:30:01,559
be going with Qualcomm chips instead of
AMD,

2256
01:30:01,874 --> 01:30:02,239
Yeah.

2257
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:02,881
in my opinion.

2258
01:30:02,174 --> 01:30:03,205
Well I supp I mean that's

2259
01:30:03,205 --> 01:30:09,508
probably why they're working so hard on
the on the arm layers for like for like

2260
01:30:09,508 --> 01:30:12,569
the frame too. I this isn't just the VR
only

2261
01:30:12,052 --> 01:30:12,569
Yeah.

2262
01:30:12,569 --> 01:30:17,522
thing. I mean I'm guessing they I wasn't
expecting it to be the next generation,

2263
01:30:17,882 --> 01:30:21,024
but given how AMD's kinda going cray cray
right now,

2264
01:30:21,301 --> 01:30:21,984
Mm-hmm.

2265
01:30:21,984 --> 01:30:24,605
they may have to accelerate their plans a
little sooner depending on if they were

2266
01:30:24,605 --> 01:30:25,605
able to get a deal or not.

2267
01:30:27,048 --> 01:30:27,405
Yeah.

2268
01:30:27,155 --> 01:30:27,766
Yeah. And

2269
01:30:27,766 --> 01:30:31,545
then who knows what regulations will come
to squash this or if they're uh

2270
01:30:31,713 --> 01:30:34,468
or if the Rico charges or whatever like do
come for Russian,

2271
01:30:34,468 --> 01:30:35,570
like it could hurt them a lot,

2272
01:30:35,023 --> 01:30:36,994
Mm. Yep.

2273
01:30:35,570 --> 01:30:38,284
so uh

2274
01:30:38,695 --> 01:30:42,126
Yeah. Well I mean if we don't get Rico
charges,

2275
01:30:42,126 --> 01:30:44,227
then it'll be going the way of the
dinosaur.

2276
01:30:44,227 --> 01:30:45,438
Hey.

2277
01:30:44,954 --> 01:30:46,617
Nice. Nice.

2278
01:30:45,574 --> 01:30:46,574
I

2279
01:30:48,710 --> 01:30:53,052
yeah, so dinosaur blood was found in a
fossil for the first time.

2280
01:30:53,052 --> 01:30:57,384
This is I uh this is crazy.

2281
01:30:57,584 --> 01:30:59,445
What is going on with this? This is nuts.

2282
01:31:00,201 --> 01:31:02,137
Dino DNA. uh

2283
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,171
So, it was thought to be

2284
01:31:02,171 --> 01:31:08,114
impossible, but they found some a hundred
and fifteen million year old fossils from

2285
01:31:08,114 --> 01:31:09,845
Brazil. And

2286
01:31:09,557 --> 01:31:09,845
Hmm.

2287
01:31:09,845 --> 01:31:13,597
this has what appears to be fossilized
blood.

2288
01:31:14,978 --> 01:31:17,319
It's a mineralized red blood cell,

2289
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:24,544
uh, molecular components. Now I don't know
if this is enough blood to create Jurassic

2290
01:31:24,544 --> 01:31:25,353
Park,

2291
01:31:25,353 --> 01:31:26,125
Mm-hmm.

2292
01:31:26,125 --> 01:31:28,426
but it's still interesting very mu no
less.

2293
01:31:27,656 --> 01:31:28,706
It's probably

2294
01:31:28,156 --> 01:31:28,706
Oh

2295
01:31:28,706 --> 01:31:30,928
a step forward to building out the genome.

2296
01:31:31,278 --> 01:31:32,489
so, um

2297
01:31:31,891 --> 01:31:32,749
Yeah.

2298
01:31:32,749 --> 01:31:34,830
they just need to build out the genome
properly,

2299
01:31:34,830 --> 01:31:37,628
maybe use some uh from my understanding,

2300
01:31:37,628 --> 01:31:44,275
like use some um art uh maybe some
artificial with uh with like living cells

2301
01:31:44,275 --> 01:31:46,856
to then redo it. Like I that's my
understanding,

2302
01:31:46,856 --> 01:31:49,418
is that they we could have something
that's similar.

2303
01:31:49,418 --> 01:31:50,488
It might not be the same thing.

2304
01:31:50,488 --> 01:31:54,940
I'm sure there's uh corruptions in the
hundred and fifteen million year old

2305
01:31:56,429 --> 01:31:57,601
Fossilized blood, but

2306
01:31:58,098 --> 01:32:03,963
My understanding is that like the
fossilization process is basically like

2307
01:32:04,424 --> 01:32:10,989
the um the bone and the blood that was
there has just like become stone.

2308
01:32:11,129 --> 01:32:17,734
So like there might be some fossilized
genetics,

2309
01:32:17,734 --> 01:32:20,897
but like I don't know how they would
extract that from the from the rock.

2310
01:32:21,267 --> 01:32:24,126
Yeah. If it even is viable in any way,

2311
01:32:21,530 --> 01:32:24,091
Mm. That's that's uh

2312
01:32:24,126 --> 01:32:24,585
but

2313
01:32:24,585 --> 01:32:24,912
Yeah.

2314
01:32:24,792 --> 01:32:25,052
that's

2315
01:32:25,052 --> 01:32:28,374
a problem for future Jurassic Park uh
entrepreneurs.

2316
01:32:28,696 --> 01:32:29,274
Yeah.

2317
01:32:29,274 --> 01:32:35,557
But essentially, they theorize that such
preservation could only happen following

2318
01:32:35,557 --> 01:32:39,560
a rapid burial in an environment wet quote
that was rich in microbes

2319
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:40,960
but low in oxygen at the same time.

2320
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,192
You know, aka that giant meteor that
destroyed the dinosaurs.

2321
01:32:45,245 --> 01:32:46,245
Mm.

2322
01:32:48,295 --> 01:32:49,476
Yeah, preserved them enough

2323
01:32:48,455 --> 01:32:49,455
Interesting.

2324
01:32:49,476 --> 01:32:50,647
so that we can bring them back.

2325
01:32:50,887 --> 01:32:52,268
That was a nice meteor.

2326
01:32:53,138 --> 01:32:54,130
Mm-hmm.

2327
01:32:54,130 --> 01:32:57,293
No. Well we'll see.

2328
01:32:54,272 --> 01:32:57,304
So that said, some are asking how

2329
01:32:57,304 --> 01:33:02,595
this could further enhance our study our
understanding of the dinosaurs and they

2330
01:33:02,595 --> 01:33:05,460
s they mention blood evolution,

2331
01:33:05,460 --> 01:33:10,233
uh metabolism, activity levels,

2332
01:33:10,474 --> 01:33:14,817
stuff that I don't know. I'm not sure how
it helps us,

2333
01:33:14,817 --> 01:33:16,608
but it helps us understand dinosaurs.

2334
01:33:15,093 --> 01:33:16,153
Mm. oh

2335
01:33:15,891 --> 01:33:16,612
It's the nutrition

2336
01:33:16,612 --> 01:33:18,105
levels like yeah, like it says in here,

2337
01:33:18,105 --> 01:33:20,789
like their amino acids, collagen in the
collagen,

2338
01:33:21,260 --> 01:33:23,613
stuff like that probably could be found in
it.

2339
01:33:23,674 --> 01:33:26,438
The DNA might might even be like a
non-starter,

2340
01:33:26,438 --> 01:33:30,104
but uh who knows, maybe they could
eventually get the something.

2341
01:33:32,136 --> 01:33:37,171
Yeah it's I it's a pretty cool feel it's a
pretty cool story to say the least.

2342
01:33:37,171 --> 01:33:38,553
Dinosaur bones are pretty cool.

2343
01:33:38,553 --> 01:33:42,116
I've seen some I've seen some at the
Smithsonian up in DC.

2344
01:33:39,828 --> 01:33:42,779
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

2345
01:33:40,885 --> 01:33:41,885
Mm.

2346
01:33:43,097 --> 01:33:44,097
Good stuff.

2347
01:33:44,287 --> 01:33:44,503
Yeah.

2348
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:44,620
It is

2349
01:33:44,620 --> 01:33:46,331
good stuff. Like I love dinosaurs.

2350
01:33:46,331 --> 01:33:47,951
I would love to see them come back,

2351
01:33:47,951 --> 01:33:51,263
but at the same time, I've seen Jurassic
Park.

2352
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:52,644
Yeah.

2353
01:33:52,644 --> 01:33:53,784
I wouldn't be the first one to

2354
01:33:53,784 --> 01:33:55,865
test it out. uh

2355
01:33:55,721 --> 01:33:56,241
You know,

2356
01:33:56,241 --> 01:33:58,242
I've never seen a Jurassic Park movie.

2357
01:33:59,092 --> 01:34:00,352
Really? Not even one?

2358
01:33:59,433 --> 01:34:02,147
Jurassic Park One was so good.

2359
01:33:59,844 --> 01:34:02,465
No. Never I've never seen

2360
01:34:02,465 --> 01:34:07,278
any. My mom didn't let me watch Jurassic
Park because it there was religious

2361
01:34:07,278 --> 01:34:08,278
reasons, but

2362
01:34:09,471 --> 01:34:10,461
That's a cr Jurassic

2363
01:34:09,490 --> 01:34:10,461
Oh, like

2364
01:34:10,461 --> 01:34:12,806
Park's a crazy one. like the si

2365
01:34:13,300 --> 01:34:14,228
Like evolution.

2366
01:34:14,228 --> 01:34:17,983
like six thousand year old like the six
thousand like the Earth being six thousand

2367
01:34:17,983 --> 01:34:20,307
years old? Hmm.

2368
01:34:18,538 --> 01:34:20,509
Yeah, like and uh my

2369
01:34:20,509 --> 01:34:24,683
mom believed my my dad believed and my mom
just kind of followed along that like

2370
01:34:24,977 --> 01:34:28,928
uh dinosaurs were like a a a deception,

2371
01:34:29,188 --> 01:34:31,190
you know, like yeah.

2372
01:34:29,671 --> 01:34:30,693
A test from Satan.

2373
01:34:31,297 --> 01:34:31,950
I don't know.

2374
01:34:31,466 --> 01:34:32,466
Like they're not real?

2375
01:34:32,531 --> 01:34:35,644
Yeah. So I wasn't allowed to have like
dinosaur toys and shit either.

2376
01:34:35,644 --> 01:34:37,796
Yeah.

2377
01:34:36,403 --> 01:34:37,403
Wow.

2378
01:34:39,657 --> 01:34:40,647
That that that

2379
01:34:39,798 --> 01:34:40,647
Fun stuff.

2380
01:34:40,647 --> 01:34:42,450
would have been hard in Utah because
around that time,

2381
01:34:42,450 --> 01:34:45,563
man, dinosaurs are all the craze in Utah
'cause there's so many dinosaur bones

2382
01:34:45,563 --> 01:34:47,946
here, but yeah.

2383
01:34:46,576 --> 01:34:48,049
really? yeah, yeah, yeah.

2384
01:34:48,467 --> 01:34:53,072
Like we have tons. Like, we have like I
probably have like three museums around

2385
01:34:53,072 --> 01:34:54,072
this area that are

2386
01:34:54,880 --> 01:35:00,279
I thought the dinosaur I thought uh
opening I I thought uh Utah was

2387
01:35:00,279 --> 01:35:02,262
run by uh Mormons.

2388
01:35:03,605 --> 01:35:06,887
Yeah, they yeah, th there's different
sects of Mormons that will believe this.

2389
01:35:06,907 --> 01:35:08,587
So Gardners,

2390
01:35:07,327 --> 01:35:08,327
Mm-hmm.

2391
01:35:09,108 --> 01:35:11,429
um, like yeah, there were Mormons that I
and I've heard of that.

2392
01:35:11,429 --> 01:35:17,142
They but my parents, luckily, they went
the Alex Jones route No They went

2393
01:35:17,142 --> 01:35:18,933
a completely other batshit crazy route.

2394
01:35:19,443 --> 01:35:23,025
kind of. Um but yeah,

2395
01:35:23,025 --> 01:35:25,456
luckily not that. Harry Potter I wasn't
allowed to watch,

2396
01:35:25,456 --> 01:35:27,857
but Jurassic Park, yeah.

2397
01:35:26,138 --> 01:35:27,904
Mm. I could watch dude, I could

2398
01:35:27,904 --> 01:35:29,850
watch Harry Potter. That was not an issue.

2399
01:35:30,068 --> 01:35:32,782
That's weird. I've known I've definitely

2400
01:35:30,072 --> 01:35:31,817
Don't know why. Yeah.

2401
01:35:31,442 --> 01:35:32,442
Ha ha ha.

2402
01:35:32,782 --> 01:35:37,077
known some people that were not allowed to
wat were not allowed to enjoy Pokemon.

2403
01:35:37,369 --> 01:35:40,072
Mm. Yeah, my parents had no problem with
Pokemon either.

2404
01:35:38,535 --> 01:35:39,535
Evol evolution.

2405
01:35:40,192 --> 01:35:43,976
Dude, that's the weirdest thing is like
yeah,

2406
01:35:41,523 --> 01:35:44,686
Well Well Well no it's not it's

2407
01:35:42,665 --> 01:35:43,665
The consistency.

2408
01:35:44,686 --> 01:35:46,948
not evil it wasn't evolution surprisingly
enough.

2409
01:35:46,948 --> 01:35:51,061
It was uh No, it wasn't the it wasn't the
violence either.

2410
01:35:51,061 --> 01:35:54,794
It was the I think mm I think they call I
think he said worshipping rocks

2411
01:35:54,794 --> 01:35:56,776
or something like that. He said.

2412
01:35:56,191 --> 01:35:59,252
Oh, oh like the Helix uh Helix stone?

2413
01:35:58,397 --> 01:35:59,558
Well no the uh

2414
01:35:59,658 --> 01:36:04,252
no no the No I'm talking about the badges,

2415
01:36:03,519 --> 01:36:04,252
People find

2416
01:36:04,252 --> 01:36:08,183
'cause you have to like seek the badges to
like participate

2417
01:36:07,567 --> 01:36:08,183
Oh.

2418
01:36:08,183 --> 01:36:09,183
in the Pokemon League.

2419
01:36:09,318 --> 01:36:12,699
Wow. That's that's a real

2420
01:36:09,358 --> 01:36:11,246
S seek accomplishments.

2421
01:36:12,699 --> 01:36:17,260
stretch. Dude, I could the I my mom had no
problem with Harry Potter because they

2422
01:36:17,260 --> 01:36:20,721
celebrated Christmas. That's literally
what she told me.

2423
01:36:23,124 --> 01:36:24,124
my gosh.

2424
01:36:24,596 --> 01:36:26,845
Yeah, wait. The wizards celebrate
Christmas?

2425
01:36:24,922 --> 01:36:25,922
Yeah.

2426
01:36:26,948 --> 01:36:27,263
Oh.

2427
01:36:27,263 --> 01:36:31,124
Yeah, they celebrate yeah, Hogwarts had
like Christmas time and all that stuff.

2428
01:36:31,638 --> 01:36:33,340
that oh wait. Was

2429
01:36:32,745 --> 01:36:33,340
Yeah.

2430
01:36:33,340 --> 01:36:37,726
Jesus a wizard? In that we that's a
question for JK Rowling,

2431
01:36:37,726 --> 01:36:38,832
but honestly

2432
01:36:37,883 --> 01:36:38,832
Yeah.

2433
01:36:38,832 --> 01:36:40,910
she's kind of a hack as a writer to be
honest.

2434
01:36:41,127 --> 01:36:41,557
Yeah.

2435
01:36:41,137 --> 01:36:41,977
Yeah.

2436
01:36:41,977 --> 01:36:44,658
No her opinions don't matter when it comes
to that stuff.

2437
01:36:44,658 --> 01:36:48,428
Um yeah, dude, it was very strange growing
up.

2438
01:36:48,428 --> 01:36:52,481
It was very strange. My dad once told me
that like

2439
01:36:50,293 --> 01:36:52,094
Yeah, that's an interesting one.

2440
01:36:52,821 --> 01:36:56,082
um Yeah, I'm not gonna say that actually.

2441
01:36:56,242 --> 01:36:58,403
That's I just realized how racist that
was.

2442
01:36:56,809 --> 01:36:58,925
Come out!

2443
01:36:58,403 --> 01:36:59,433
My dad used to say all

2444
01:36:59,433 --> 01:37:03,084
kinds of racist stuff. uh

2445
01:37:01,181 --> 01:37:02,181
Oh no.

2446
01:37:03,084 --> 01:37:05,425
Yeah. Just absolutely wild.

2447
01:37:06,857 --> 01:37:08,832
I've actually documented some of it on my
website,

2448
01:37:08,832 --> 01:37:11,411
like how like the crazy shit my dad used
to say.

2449
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,601
Dude, I love that cot. Now people are
gonna go scour it.

2450
01:37:14,723 --> 01:37:15,723
You should do it too.

2451
01:37:16,947 --> 01:37:17,947
Yeah.

2452
01:37:18,581 --> 01:37:19,581
Cosh.

2453
01:37:20,138 --> 01:37:21,138
Yeah.

2454
01:37:22,932 --> 01:37:24,432
Uh I gotta say, man, it's

2455
01:37:27,326 --> 01:37:31,656
It's wild what some people can say when
they don't think it's wrong to say it.

2456
01:37:32,056 --> 01:37:33,492
Mm. Yeah.

2457
01:37:34,567 --> 01:37:36,840
Or just and this see, this is the type of
stuff,

2458
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,903
Gardener, where I I I do think sub I don't
know,

2459
01:37:38,903 --> 01:37:42,048
like I have a hard time going back and
forth between and this is going back

2460
01:37:42,048 --> 01:37:45,643
to the like the bonus episode of like I
won't even say America's just people

2461
01:37:45,643 --> 01:37:47,716
are stupid sometimes. 'Cause they'll find
all

2462
01:37:46,645 --> 01:37:47,645
Mm-hmm.

2463
01:37:47,716 --> 01:37:51,301
sorts of ways to like gatekeep their own
lives in a weird way.

2464
01:37:51,922 --> 01:37:55,945
Yeah. Uh yeah. That's fair.

2465
01:37:57,186 --> 01:38:00,389
Oh, dude. Okay. Okay. Here's here's
something my dad used to say.

2466
01:38:00,689 --> 01:38:05,242
He used to keep them the so we had like a
HP pavilion computer,

2467
01:38:05,242 --> 01:38:10,797
right? It was uh and it it was one of
those like CRT monitors that had like

2468
01:38:10,797 --> 01:38:13,279
a little uh microphone in the top,

2469
01:38:13,279 --> 01:38:18,262
right? And he used to keep it unplugged
because from the PC,

2470
01:38:18,262 --> 01:38:21,365
the microphone, because he didn't want the
CIA to listen in.

2471
01:38:21,897 --> 01:38:23,567
This was like the nineties, right?

2472
01:38:23,567 --> 01:38:25,158
Like just the stuff like that.

2473
01:38:24,051 --> 01:38:26,398
He's like thirty two thirty years too
early.

2474
01:38:26,698 --> 01:38:32,710
Yeah. he used to say that Peter Jennings
of d of ABC's World News Tonight shouldn't

2475
01:38:32,710 --> 01:38:38,282
be allowed to host the news program in
America because he was Canadian.

2476
01:38:38,682 --> 01:38:42,363
Like, dude, my dad m that's the kind of
stuff

2477
01:38:39,758 --> 01:38:40,758
Ha ha ha.

2478
01:38:42,363 --> 01:38:44,124
my dad would say, right? Like,

2479
01:38:44,444 --> 01:38:47,875
uh. He used to say that Kane, like,

2480
01:38:47,875 --> 01:38:48,905
of Kane and Abel.

2481
01:38:49,234 --> 01:38:49,968
Yeah, Kane.

2482
01:38:49,469 --> 01:38:50,615
Was still alive,

2483
01:38:50,615 --> 01:38:52,284
and he was actually Sasquatch.

2484
01:38:53,129 --> 01:38:55,671
That that's a that's a very common Mormon
myth.

2485
01:38:56,732 --> 01:39:00,274
Very common. Yeah. Well, it's okay.

2486
01:38:56,828 --> 01:39:00,295
is that Mormon? I didn't know that.

2487
01:39:00,634 --> 01:39:06,778
Beyond that, it is Mormon, but it is also
probably all stems from

2488
01:39:07,649 --> 01:39:11,481
um ah the similar away th th there's a
whole history thing we could talk about.

2489
01:39:10,730 --> 01:39:12,126
Mm. Mm-hmm.

2490
01:39:11,782 --> 01:39:12,522
But like

2491
01:39:12,522 --> 01:39:16,285
um there's other sects of Christianity
that do believe that too.

2492
01:39:16,615 --> 01:39:19,569
Interesting. Okay. Yeah, very,

2493
01:39:19,569 --> 01:39:22,613
very interesting stuff. We're going down a
different rabbit hole though.

2494
01:39:22,961 --> 01:39:24,870
That's a whole other bonus episode.

2495
01:39:25,417 --> 01:39:26,417
Yeah.

2496
01:39:26,679 --> 01:39:28,481
But dinosaurs, cool.

2497
01:39:29,713 --> 01:39:31,375
Love me some dinosaurs, Gardener.

2498
01:39:31,375 --> 01:39:32,376
You need to watch Jurassic Park.

2499
01:39:32,376 --> 01:39:34,949
It's so good and it's a warning to why we
should not be doing this,

2500
01:39:34,949 --> 01:39:37,273
but it's also kind of I kinda want it.

2501
01:39:35,389 --> 01:39:38,800
Okay. Yeah. Fair.

2502
01:39:38,484 --> 01:39:38,864
We should

2503
01:39:38,864 --> 01:39:42,338
let Elon Musk do this, 'cause it's usually
the creator that gets eaten,

2504
01:39:42,338 --> 01:39:42,759
so.

2505
01:39:42,759 --> 01:39:43,975
Elon Musk on Mars.

2506
01:39:45,501 --> 01:39:48,656
No, Elon Musk, make a j Jurassic Park
Island.

2507
01:39:48,656 --> 01:39:49,768
You can go visit it first.

2508
01:39:50,292 --> 01:39:52,594
Hmm. Yeah, okay. That's fair.

2509
01:39:52,362 --> 01:39:53,362
get eaten.

2510
01:39:54,423 --> 01:39:56,194
And then we can benefit from the
dinosaurs,

2511
01:39:56,194 --> 01:39:57,635
I guess. I don't know. The

2512
01:39:57,290 --> 01:39:57,635
Yeah.

2513
01:39:57,635 --> 01:40:01,928
earth like f i realistically, the my final
cap on this this topic,

2514
01:40:01,928 --> 01:40:03,939
I know that we've been going on it for a
while,

2515
01:40:03,939 --> 01:40:10,583
but um is that uh even this sa this
article says that like there

2516
01:40:10,583 --> 01:40:14,486
um I believe there was less air like that
um or no,

2517
01:40:14,486 --> 01:40:16,597
actually I think there's supposed to be
more air back then.

2518
01:40:17,623 --> 01:40:21,729
like the environment that the dinosaurs
lived in is really different than what

2519
01:40:21,729 --> 01:40:23,411
they would live in now. It could be really
hard,

2520
01:40:23,411 --> 01:40:24,973
I think, to replicate and get them

2521
01:40:24,639 --> 01:40:24,973
Mm.

2522
01:40:24,973 --> 01:40:27,966
to survive in this type of atmosphere.

2523
01:40:28,027 --> 01:40:30,289
But Yeah.

2524
01:40:28,302 --> 01:40:31,399
Mm. yeah. Interesting.

2525
01:40:31,771 --> 01:40:34,875
It's not conductive to large animals
anymore.

2526
01:40:35,336 --> 01:40:36,336
Not conducive, I mean.

2527
01:40:36,765 --> 01:40:42,896
Right. Yeah. Do do human beings count as
megafauna?

2528
01:40:45,718 --> 01:40:47,597
Mega Some of

2529
01:40:45,876 --> 01:40:47,495
Uh define megafauna.

2530
01:40:47,768 --> 01:40:48,768
maybe.

2531
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,447
Me, I'm six foot three, motherfucker.

2532
01:40:52,125 --> 01:40:53,977
uh

2533
01:40:55,530 --> 01:40:57,949
Damn man. You're flexing your height,

2534
01:40:57,949 --> 01:40:58,903
man. I always forget that

2535
01:40:58,621 --> 01:40:58,903
Yeah.

2536
01:40:58,903 --> 01:41:00,639
Gardner's like freakishly tall.

2537
01:41:01,277 --> 01:41:04,138
Yeah. I have to duck through most
doorways.

2538
01:41:05,117 --> 01:41:06,117
Jeez.

2539
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:07,560
Good lord.

2540
01:41:07,979 --> 01:41:11,960
Yeah. with that, thank you guys for being
here.

2541
01:41:12,737 --> 01:41:14,871
I think we've I think we've officially

2542
01:41:12,884 --> 01:41:13,884
Mm-hmm.

2543
01:41:14,871 --> 01:41:18,082
gone off the rails. Um yeah.

2544
01:41:18,282 --> 01:41:21,122
That uh w good episode. If you haven't
already,

2545
01:41:21,322 --> 01:41:22,873
go check out the bonus episode.

2546
01:41:22,873 --> 01:41:24,513
It was like fifty minutes or something.

2547
01:41:24,513 --> 01:41:27,424
Uh it's a a bit of a longer bonus episode.

2548
01:41:27,071 --> 01:41:29,996
That's an hour. We hit an hour.

2549
01:41:27,424 --> 01:41:30,175
We it was an hour. Yeah, we talked about a
bunch of stuff.

2550
01:41:30,175 --> 01:41:31,117
Uh

2551
01:41:31,117 --> 01:41:34,910
uh stuff that's too spicy for youtube it's
stuff that youtube doesn't want

2552
01:41:34,910 --> 01:41:39,685
you to hear and therefore in your anger
and indignance you should go listen

2553
01:41:39,685 --> 01:41:42,347
to that or or or watch it over on Patreon.

2554
01:41:41,061 --> 01:41:44,179
Exactly. Screw them. Go Patreon.

2555
01:41:42,347 --> 01:41:45,150
Yeah yeah

2556
01:41:45,150 --> 01:41:50,214
exactly uh you can also check out off the
console.com it's a cool website where

2557
01:41:50,214 --> 01:41:55,739
we have uh links to all of the things
including episodes uh and the audio feed

2558
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:57,221
um with that

2559
01:41:57,727 --> 01:42:00,762
Thank you all for listening, hanging out
with us for the the weekend,

2560
01:42:01,002 --> 01:42:02,444
and we'll see you in the next one.

2561
01:42:04,073 --> 01:42:05,163
Peace out, let off.

2562
01:42:04,252 --> 01:42:04,768
Later.

2563
01:42:04,768 --> 01:42:05,768
Bye.